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Alex The Great
10-08-2010, 11:51 AM
I think MJ and Peter got back together after SM3
chaseter
10-08-2010, 11:52 AM
She said that to Brosnan in GE. In CR she said "God, I miss the Cold War" to one of her secretaries.
They wanted to redo SPECTRE, but they had lost the rights. Quantum is what we got instead.
And she is a different character, check the CR DVD. CR was a reboot.
The word reboot is so loosely tossed around here. A reboot is a complete start over from scratch.
I will have to watch the extras. I had no idea that Dench was a completely new character not connected to her Brosnan era character...which completely befuddles me that they would so blatantly do that without explanation in the film. Having to watch dvd extras to figure out what is going on is so cheap:o
Spider-ManHero12
10-08-2010, 11:54 AM
In what way? I second that question.
Spider-ManHero12
10-08-2010, 11:55 AM
In what way? I second that question.
Gianakin_
10-08-2010, 11:56 AM
I will have to watch the extras. I had no idea that Dench was a completely new character not connected to her Brosnan era character...which completely befuddles me that they would so blatantly do that without explanation in the film. Having to watch dvd extras to figure out what is going on is so cheap:o
In the film, yeah, no explanation. But the official one is that they wanted Dench again so much.
chaseter
10-08-2010, 11:59 AM
I second that question.
I answered that question.
Spider-ManHero12
10-08-2010, 12:01 PM
^^ Woops, didn't realize there was a new page. Sorry, lol.
I just wanted to say that Casino Royale IS a reboot! I think Dench plays the same character, but in the new reboot world.
I don't know if that 'voids my opinion' on the matter, but I also think that Star Trek is a reboot. Even though, technically it ties in the old continuity.
I just wanted to say that Casino Royale IS a reboot! I think Dench plays the same character, but in the new reboot world.
I don't know if that 'voids my opinion' on the matter, but I also think that Star Trek is a reboot. Even though, technically it ties in the old continuity.
Well, considering the original M was a man, yeah. She is probably the same M she was before, but a complete restart. It's a franchise that can afford to play fast and loose with continuity.
Do you know a lot of "regular" movie goers still think Batman Begins was a prequel to the Burton films?
Well, considering the original M was a man, yeah. She is probably the same M she was before, but a complete restart. It's a franchise that can afford to play fast and loose with continuity.
Do you know a lot of "regular" movie goers still think Batman Begins was a prequel to the Burton films?
I seem to remember BB being marketed as a prequel to the Burton films.
Gianakin_
10-09-2010, 04:03 AM
Dench is not the same character.
Dench is not the same character.
In every bond movie she plays "M". She's been M since 1995.
But they are M's from a different time and place. Same with DG's Bond.
Gianakin_
10-09-2010, 11:40 AM
Er, exactly. She's still M, as in "the director of MI6", but not the same M, as in, let's say, "Catherine Miles".
Golgo-13
10-09-2010, 11:48 AM
All i want is bigger eyes on the mask, black not silver raised webbing, and arm pit webs and i'll happy. :)
Gianakin_
10-09-2010, 11:50 AM
Still not sure how I feel about the armpit webs.
thebatsam
10-09-2010, 11:58 AM
not a big fan of armpit webs
want black webbing on the costume....would look great
or was thinking they put silver webbing and have the costume as red and black or navy (like how Erik Larsen and John Byrne did it), dunno how it would look in practice but might be a neat idea
Troy_Parker
10-09-2010, 01:31 PM
Pit webbing is cheesy.
Slightly raised, BLACK webbing.
Wide eye lenses.
More saturated red/blue colouring on suit. That's about it.
Ken-Kaniff
10-09-2010, 01:42 PM
Hopefully there won't be any of those armpit webs! I never understood the point of them. Thankfull, later in the comics, they also got rid of them, if I remember well! I hated the idea from the beginning, it was a bad idea.
Alex The Great
10-09-2010, 03:12 PM
Wide eye lenses.
:argh:
Venom75
10-09-2010, 06:12 PM
I'd like the see the eyes a bit more narrow. Kinda like the way Alex Ross draws him. It would make Spidey look a bit more creepy or menacing,which would lead to people wondering if he was a hero(like in the comic;etc). Also,I liked the raised webbing on the Raimi Spidey suit,but instead how about black webbing?
Golgo-13
10-09-2010, 07:06 PM
When i refer to the arm webbing i'm not referring to the ones that look like Batman Beyonds wings! I mean the ones you can't even see until spidey lifts up his arms; and they're small.
Alex The Great
10-09-2010, 07:22 PM
Armpit Webbing is pointless and useless. There is no use for them and it would look stupid on screen
Ajendo
10-10-2010, 04:47 AM
Ok, the perfect costume imo for Garfield to wear would be, the traditional red and blue USM costome that you UNLOCK in the new spider-man shattered dimensions game. Interestingly enough, the build, shape of that costume looks better than the traditional red and blue 616 universe costume in the game.
Mace Bloodstone
10-10-2010, 06:43 AM
Ok, the perfect costume imo for Garfield to wear would be, the traditional red and blue USM costome that you UNLOCK in the new spider-man shattered dimensions game. Interestingly enough, the build, shape of that costume looks better than the traditional red and blue 616 universe costume in the game.
got a screen cap of it?
Ajendo
10-10-2010, 08:06 AM
Tried to find it but can only get a hold of the black costume. It's exactly the same as the original red and blue obviously but it some how just looks better. I think the the shading of the red and blue may have something to do with it probably.
Immortalfire
10-10-2010, 08:09 AM
Armpit Webbing is pointless and useless. There is no use for them and it would look stupid on screen
I must agree.
Ajendo
10-10-2010, 08:11 AM
This is the best I could do at the moment. The body size and sculpture and the size of the eye-lenseshttp://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/spider-man-shattered-dimension.jpg
as opposed to
http://doubleviking.cachefly.net/images/bamkapow/2010/08/12/amazing-spider-man.jpg
The former lends itself more to suit Garfield's body shape as opposed to the latter.
spida-man
10-10-2010, 08:41 PM
This is the best I could do at the moment. The body size and sculpture and the size of the eye-lenseshttp://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/spider-man-shattered-dimension.jpg
as opposed to
http://doubleviking.cachefly.net/images/bamkapow/2010/08/12/amazing-spider-man.jpg
The former lends itself more to suit Garfield's body shape as opposed to the latter.
well the reboot is bassed off of ultimate spider-man anyway...
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-10-2010, 08:46 PM
I'd love to see the Shattered Dimensions design as the movie costume.
Ultimate Doom
10-10-2010, 09:41 PM
Armpit Webbing is pointless and useless. There is no use for them and it would look stupid on screen
They should go with the mask/eyes in your avatar...its perfect
Galactus123
10-11-2010, 01:28 AM
This:
http://comicsando.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/spiderman-by-alex-ross.jpg
chaseter
10-11-2010, 08:55 AM
well the reboot is bassed off of ultimate spider-man anyway...
It may be...you forget that Bendis was dropped off the project and Alvin Sargent was brought in for a rewrite. It may still be but Bendis' now non involvement makes me wonder if they dumped the Ultimate route.
Chris Wallace
10-11-2010, 01:26 PM
The two movies are connected...you can watch Hulk and then TIH and they fit together apart from a different cast and some minor retconning. It was like they were paying homage to Ang Lee's film while also trying to do their own thing. Plus, the GA isn't going to know Hulk's origin or why he is running from Ross and Hulk explains all of that.
So...when Ross explains how Banner became the Hulk, making no mention of nanomeds or any of that, you just ignore that part or convince yourself he's lying? Or how about when we see Bruce in the chair in the beginning, and see an injured Ross lying next to an injured Betty? And how do you explain how Ross goes from being ADAMANTLY against altering human physiology to EAGERLY testing a thus far unsuccessful serum on Blonsky? You'd have to be re-writing the movie in your head as you go along to tie them together.
It may be...you forget that Bendis was dropped off the project and Alvin Sargent was brought in for a rewrite. It may still be but Bendis' now non involvement makes me wonder if they dumped the Ultimate route.
They dumped Bendis? When did this happen and why?
sweetre15
10-11-2010, 03:11 PM
They dumped Bendis? When did this happen and why?
That's speculation but if he was a consultant those are also usually involved in decisions on rewrites as well. But even so I'm sure that USM is just a foundation for a different atmosphere and possibly Parker's character arc
chaseter
10-11-2010, 05:21 PM
They dumped Bendis? When did this happen and why?
Bendis was all excited a few months back about being a consultant and then he kind of went quiet and then Alvin Sargent was called in to rewrite. Bendis is a cocky ***hole...he would still be spouting out foam if he was still involved.
chaseter
10-11-2010, 05:25 PM
So...when Ross explains how Banner became the Hulk, making no mention of nanomeds or any of that, you just ignore that part or convince yourself he's lying? Or how about when we see Bruce in the chair in the beginning, and see an injured Ross lying next to an injured Betty? And how do you explain how Ross goes from being ADAMANTLY against altering human physiology to EAGERLY testing a thus far unsuccessful serum on Blonsky? You'd have to be re-writing the movie in your head as you go along to tie them together.
When did I say that everything fit in perfectly together:huh: When did I say that TIH was a direct sequel to Hulk? It was a sequel with a new cast and some retconning, it was a reboot with loose ties to its predecessor, whatever you want to call it. TIH has ties with Hulk. The movie starts off exactly where Hulk left off for crap's sake. It was an attempt to rope in the GA that had seen Hulk and reboot the franchise because the fans thought Hulk was pure crap.
Pac-Master
10-11-2010, 05:40 PM
They dumped Bendis? When did this happen and why?
He was possibly going to be a script consultant, and they asked him to write a spin off film (possibly Venom). He declined, and it never got farther than a single meeting.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a225453/brian-bendis-turns-down-venom.html
Warhammer
10-11-2010, 07:16 PM
When did I say that everything fit in perfectly together:huh: When did I say that TIH was a direct sequel to Hulk? It was a sequel with a new cast and some retconning, it was a reboot with loose ties to its predecessor, whatever you want to call it. TIH has ties with Hulk. The movie starts off exactly where Hulk left off for crap's sake. It was an attempt to rope in the GA that had seen Hulk and reboot the franchise because the fans thought Hulk was pure crap.
Naw man, other than the fact that Hulk ends in South America and The Incredible Hulk begins there as well as the story being about a guy named Bruce Banner who can transform into a big green monster, there are no ties between the two movies. Tonally, they aren't even similar. Hulk is a more cerebral, character-driven film. The Incredible Hulk is a more action packed adventure film. The differences are alot more than "some retconning." Character relationships and plot points are completely different in the two films.
sabetoonth
10-11-2010, 09:20 PM
another similarity is Betty is a scientist :o
Spider-ManHero12
10-11-2010, 09:43 PM
Edit
chaseter
10-11-2010, 11:43 PM
Naw man, other than the fact that Hulk ends in South America and The Incredible Hulk begins there as well as the story being about a guy named Bruce Banner who can transform into a big green monster, there are no ties between the two movies. Tonally, they aren't even similar. Hulk is a more cerebral, character-driven film. The Incredible Hulk is a more action packed adventure film. The differences are alot more than "some retconning." Character relationships and plot points are completely different in the two films.
I know that they are tonally different...that isn't the point. The point is that they didn't redo his origin because it was already done in Hulk. They picked up right where Hulk left off but did their own thing. They only hinted at what had happened before hand. Why he was in South America, what his relationship was with Betty and her father, why he has to keep his heart rate down, etc. Had Hulk not come out, the film would feel incomplete because we are missing the most crucial part of Hulk's story. The general audience wouldn't know WTF was going on. They didn't feel the need to show Bruce becoming Hulk for the first time and the repercussions on his personal life with Betty...because it was all shown in Hulk already and most everyone going to see TIH had seen Hulk.
Warhammer
10-12-2010, 12:46 AM
I know that they are tonally different...that isn't the point. The point is that they didn't redo his origin because it was already done in Hulk. They picked up right where Hulk left off but did their own thing. They only hinted at what had happened before hand. Why he was in South America, what his relationship was with Betty and her father, why he has to keep his heart rate down, etc. Had Hulk not come out, the film would feel incomplete because we are missing the most crucial part of Hulk's story. The general audience wouldn't know WTF was going on. They didn't feel the need to show Bruce becoming Hulk for the first time and the repercussions on his personal life with Betty...because it was all shown in Hulk already and most everyone going to see TIH had seen Hulk.
They did redo his origin, though. It was completely different. Edward Norton chose to not have the film be a straight up origin story when he rewrote the script. Instead, he put how Banner turned into the Hulk in the opening credits, then expanded on what little was seen throughout the movie. Norton wrote an unconventional reboot which wasn't truly an origin story. Because Hulk is such a big staple in pop culture, people already know the main gist of the origin (doctor gets in accident, turns into big green monster, bam!).
The flashback sequences during the opening credits was how the viewers knew what was going on, not a prior viewing of Hulk.
Chris Wallace
10-12-2010, 06:50 AM
this is a pretty good homemade costume
http://i52.tinypic.com/2ufg7t4.jpg
No, it's not.
chaseter
10-12-2010, 08:42 AM
They did redo his origin, though. It was completely different. Edward Norton chose to not have the film be a straight up origin story when he rewrote the script. Instead, he put how Banner turned into the Hulk in the opening credits, then expanded on what little was seen throughout the movie. Norton wrote an unconventional reboot which wasn't truly an origin story. Because Hulk is such a big staple in pop culture, people already know the main gist of the origin (doctor gets in accident, turns into big green monster, bam!).
The flashback sequences during the opening credits was how the viewers knew what was going on, not a prior viewing of Hulk.
Sorry but I disagree. Had Hulk not been made and TIH been the first movie, it wouldn't have made what it did. You don't start a franchise with the origin in the opening titles as background images. Most everyone who saw TIH saw Hulk. It is why they made nearly exactly the same domestic.
Once again, I am not saying this is a sequel, it was a reboot. But they purposely put connections in to not alienate the GA. I would bet you the writers watched Hulk.
Parker Wayne
10-12-2010, 08:56 AM
ever since Tobey in 3.....
haha jp Tobey was still cut
but it is kinda weird..
Very weird. Its like some people have weird Spiderman-fat-guy fetishes.
No, it's not.
I'm pretty sure he was just kidding, but once again I'll never understand why people like posting pictures of fat guys in Spiderman costumes. They're not funny, and I laugh at a lot of stupid things.
chaseter
10-12-2010, 09:00 AM
You haven't seen the one of the fat guy with the painted on costume yet. I can't post it...just google it.
RAMORE
10-12-2010, 10:22 AM
A redesign a guy on the hype did I always liked:
Thanks everyone...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/OneDisturbedSOB/Sketchbook/Spider-Man-full-body-color0.jpg
chaseter
10-12-2010, 10:51 AM
I truly do not understand why people use or want underarm webbing. Like Cap's wings coming off of his helmet...they are stupid looking and absolutely pointless.
RAMORE
10-12-2010, 10:55 AM
Another cool one:
I'm sure he'll be fine. I was on DA and came across Turin the Forsaken and he had a pretty wicked spiderman:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2vuyd4w.jpg
Artist's Comments
This is a personal design of Spider-Man that Ive made for my own personal Spider-Man universe. (With heavy influence from Alex Ross, of course).
In my universe, Peter is a senior in High School, and hes not as goofy as the main-stream Peter Parker. Hes just as quiet and timid, but hes a little more serious in personality. He doesnt take as much crap as the main stream Peter, standing up for himself whenever he feels that he needs to. He even punched Flash Thompson in the face after Flash continued to pick on him. (He pulled his punch of course, he didnt want to break his jaw or anything).
And unlike the main-stream Peter, this Peter Parker is a total chick magnet, and he's completely oblivious to this fact. He doesnt even know that girls are attracted to him, as he always has his face buried in a book or in work.
His costume reflects his personality when in comes to being a superhero. He still has that wise-ass attitude as the main-stream Spider-Man, but he takes a more serious approach to crime-fighting. He always prefers to get the job done quickly and efficiently so less people get hurt, doesnt choose to prolong the battle with smart-ass remarks.
As for his powers, he has the same powers as the main-stream Spider-Man, except he has organic web shooters in his wrists, and does NOT have those stinger things. He also has a slightly increased sense of smell and hearing (just a little bit more advanced than a humans, no where near the level of wolverine or anything like that), and he has accelerated healing, which means he just heals a little faster than normal.
Well, theres my Spider-Man, for all to enjoy.
Simple but cool:up:
RAMORE
10-12-2010, 10:55 AM
Because it ads creepieness that's why he is Spider-man
Parker Wayne
10-12-2010, 10:57 AM
I truly do not understand why people use or want underarm webbing. Like Cap's wings coming off of his helmet...they are stupid looking and absolutely pointless.
This.
Alex The Great
10-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Because it ads creepieness that's why he is Spider-man
No, it makes Spider-Man look like some stupid flying squirrel :huh:
El Payaso
10-12-2010, 01:29 PM
No, it makes Spider-Man look like some stupid flying squirrel :huh:
Absolutely. And it feels like he has been inactive for way too long. :P
chaseter
10-12-2010, 01:34 PM
I hope he has them and he gets them snagged on a flag pole and then gets brutally beaten.
Web pits are so 40 year ago.
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6462/edna.jpg
spider1975
10-12-2010, 02:41 PM
A redesign a guy on the hype did I always liked:
Excellent design! My gut though tells me that they will design a costume that seperates the reboot from the originals but still stick to the original design. I don't want raised webbing but if they do it, make them jet black. Also, I would like to see the eye design Ross did or just make them rounder and a different lens material that is pure white at all angles.
spider1975
10-12-2010, 02:42 PM
Another cool one:
Where is this design from?
Doctor Jones
10-12-2010, 03:50 PM
Ugh, Spider-Man should not be creepy looking. I mean what the hell was Lee's and Ditko's original intent when he was first created? Look at him in those earlier issues. Not creepy at all.
And I hope to God there are is no under arm webbing. I can't stand them.
Goran
10-12-2010, 04:11 PM
Those costume designs are just wrong... :(
the_ultimate_evil
10-12-2010, 04:38 PM
honestly i'd just keep the look from the comics/previous films, and just go for a darker navy/black
Kurosawa
10-12-2010, 06:11 PM
I can give or take the underarm webbing but I'd think it would be a pain to work with. The only reason to make Spidey creepy like that would be if they were going with the Ditko Objectivist characterization and I have no idea that they would do that...Spider-Man hasn't had that outlook since Ditko left.
Alex The Great
10-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Ugh, Spider-Man should not be creepy looking. I mean what the hell was Lee's and Ditko's original intent when he was first created? Look at him in those earlier issues. Not creepy at all.
And I hope to God there are is no under arm webbing. I can't stand them.
The original Spider-Man had the horizontal/sinister eyes
sabetoonth
10-12-2010, 08:52 PM
I can give or take the underarm webbing but I'd think it would be a pain to work with. The only reason to make Spidey creepy like that would be if they were going with the Ditko Objectivist characterization and I have no idea that they would do that...Spider-Man hasn't had that outlook since Ditko left.
For once about a costume, I agree with Kurosawa
No offense dude
Ultimate Doom
10-12-2010, 10:49 PM
Keep the original costume!!! iIf it ain't broke why fix it!?!
Its a classic!
terry78
10-12-2010, 10:52 PM
Most incarnations of Spider-Man look kinda creepy and unsettling. Don't get me started on the artists and animators that make his mask change expressions depending on his own facial expressions. But that was the hook, that this guy that looked so uncanny valley-ish acted so silly at times.
Chris Wallace
10-13-2010, 06:45 AM
A redesign a guy on the hype did I always liked:
Symbol is too big, and I'm still not digging the black lenses.
Warhammer
10-13-2010, 08:45 AM
Sorry but I disagree. Had Hulk not been made and TIH been the first movie, it wouldn't have made what it did. You don't start a franchise with the origin in the opening titles as background images. Most everyone who saw TIH saw Hulk. It is why they made nearly exactly the same domestic.
Once again, I am not saying this is a sequel, it was a reboot. But they purposely put connections in to not alienate the GA. I would bet you the writers watched Hulk.
If you are saying that The Incredible Hulk wasn't the traditional origin story due to Hulk already doing it 5 years earlier, then yes I agree with you 100%. Another origin story 5 years later seemed like a waste of film time for Letterier, Norton, and the producers. They figured "why should we make another origin story Hulk film when one came out only 5 years ago?" They wanted to finally deliver a Hulk film that they felt people were snubbed on when Hulk came out. That reason does not equal "a connection."
This was a corporate decision only. The Incredible Hulk does not make one reference whatsoever to Hulk. Hulk is not vague history according to the film. There are no references. There are not connections. It'd be like saying Batman Begins and Batman had connections.
Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 09:22 AM
ditko spider-man: small eyes.
http://www.samruby.com/History/Splash1Shot.gif
thebatsam
10-13-2010, 12:53 PM
If it looks like this but with raised black webbing I'll be delighted
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2151/2amazingspiderman608dj.png
Sorry the picture's massive
Chris Wallace
10-13-2010, 01:01 PM
No, it makes Spider-Man look like some stupid flying squirrel :huh:
If they came past his elbows I would agree, but they don't.
Oscorp
10-13-2010, 01:20 PM
If it looks like this but with raised black webbing I'll be delighted
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2151/2amazingspiderman608dj.png
Sorry the picture's massive
Yeah that would be awesome! Oh and btw...look closely and you'll see...yes, ARMPIT WEBBING! :P
I wouldn't have any problem with it since, as Chris Wallace said, it's not going past his elbows.
Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 01:22 PM
i always have a problem with the huge mistakes artists make with the webbing - look at the horizontal webs on his mask - they're going the wrong way. Thats just lazy. irks the hell out of me.
Other than that, it IS a nice looking piece.
Oscorp
10-13-2010, 01:24 PM
I didn't notice that until now. And you're right, that bugs me as well now! But, change that, and it's a damn fine costume imo! :)
Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 02:00 PM
i've seen a version on here somewhere (i don't feel like looking for it), but i like the idea of having the webbs look more like natural webbing - its kinda of chaotic and not so straight and neat as is the regular design. i think that enough would be a good way to differentiate the reboot from Raimi's.
Oscorp
10-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Yeah I know which one you mean and I'd love something like that too
Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 02:34 PM
another idea to go along with that...
how about having the webbing LOOK similar to his actual webs - they're raised, but not beveled, and have a translucency to them, almost as if he spun a web and laid it over the suit?
Chris Wallace
10-14-2010, 07:02 AM
i always have a problem with the huge mistakes artists make with the webbing - look at the horizontal webs on his mask - they're going the wrong way. Thats just lazy. irks the hell out of me.
Other than that, it IS a nice looking piece.
Erik Larsen was notorious for that. It used to irritate the hell out of me & for a while I thought I was the only person who noticed and/or cared.
I later discovered that Ditko was guilty of it, too.
Spider-Who?
10-14-2010, 10:54 AM
its amazing how much it happens. I picked up Season one of Sensation Spider-Man a few weeks ago, and the picture on the dvd cover was atrocious - the webbing was all over the place.
Chris Wallace
10-14-2010, 10:56 AM
Spectacular overall was too badly drawn for me to dissect it. It made up for that in other areas, but I thought the basic look was horrendous.
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-14-2010, 11:22 AM
I like Spectacular's art style, but I'm a big fan on cartoony, minimalist stuff in general, so that's just me.
Spider-Who?
10-14-2010, 12:55 PM
The simple style allowed them to quickly and easily animate the characters, which is why Spidey was the most nimble in this incarnation than nearly any other Spidey show. Only thing I didn’t dig was how they made the elbows of everyone look like separate pieces stuck together.
Chris Wallace
10-14-2010, 01:07 PM
THey looked like action figure elbow joints.
Hypestyle
10-20-2010, 03:18 PM
the colors should be red & black, or red & navy blue.. they must have the webbing armpits, go back to the Ditko originals for reference..
and the eyes should be able to move.. I don't care that it's not "realistic".. Rorshach's mask wasn't, either..
spidermanJLA!~
10-20-2010, 08:28 PM
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9992/20916558925spidermansup.jpghttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5712/romitaspidermancostume2.jpgTHESE ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spider-Aziz
10-21-2010, 12:50 AM
Alex Ross Spider-Man
End of the line children
sabetoonth
10-21-2010, 12:52 AM
HAHAHHA, funny stuff
Chris Wallace
10-21-2010, 07:20 AM
the colors should be red & black, or red & navy blue.. they must have the webbing armpits, go back to the Ditko originals for reference..
and the eyes should be able to move.. I don't care that it's not "realistic".. Rorshach's mask wasn't, either..
We're not against moving eyes because of realism, but because it would look stupid. As for Rorschach, would anyone really have cared if the images remained consistent? I wouldn't have.
Spider-ManHero12
10-21-2010, 08:06 AM
^^ Well, with Rorschach, it wsorked great and it wa suppsoed to. However, with Spider-Man, it would just look extremely stupid on film, IMO. I really think it would so goofy that people may even laugh. It works in the comics, but on film? Nope, imo.
NinjaCarm
10-21-2010, 10:14 AM
Check out this wicked Gabrielle Del'Otto Spider-Man design I hope they benchmark for the film.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OeQMHbggQ-w/0.jpg
NinjaCarm
10-21-2010, 10:15 AM
Here's some more by 'Del Otto
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7019/158928-15950-gabriele-dell-otto_super.jpg
http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gabrieledellottospideyvslizard.gif?w=531&h=375
Gianakin_
10-21-2010, 10:24 AM
Wow, these are fantastic.
Chris Wallace
10-21-2010, 11:04 AM
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5712/romitaspidermancostume2.jpg
I like it; just not for a movie. This still looks like a fan costume to me, moreso than an authentic Spider-Man.
terry78
10-21-2010, 11:13 AM
You honestly have to factor in for primary colors in real life, because they do not work in a real world setting. That red has to be dark red, and the blue has to be a pretty dark blue to even look good. I'd make that red almost a burgundy even.
chaseter
10-21-2010, 11:15 AM
I agree...that costume is a nice fan costume but it looks too simplistic and cartoony for a live action movie. If they honestly did that for this movie, I would rofl.
Alex The Great
10-21-2010, 12:24 PM
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5712/romitaspidermancostume2.jpg!
Colours need to be darker. Spider Symbol is...off. Webbing needs to be raised (not to the degree like Rami's Spider-Man suit, but they still need to be raised)
sabetoonth
10-21-2010, 12:37 PM
Here's some more by 'Del Otto
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7019/158928-15950-gabriele-dell-otto_super.jpg
http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gabrieledellottospideyvslizard.gif?w=531&h=375
Check out this wicked Gabrielle Del'Otto Spider-Man design I hope they benchmark for the film.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OeQMHbggQ-w/0.jpg
Those are fantastic!
I think this would look cool on film with a few slight changes, just in the colors, MAYBE the eyes.
Spider-Who?
10-21-2010, 01:29 PM
Colours need to be darker. Spider Symbol is...off. Webbing needs to be raised (not to the degree like Rami's Spider-Man suit, but they still need to be raised)
Wow dude. Why don't you just say you hate their costume? It'd take less time.
And no, there doesn't NEED to be raised webbing. You (and even I, admittedly) just WANT raised webbing.
chaseter
10-21-2010, 01:59 PM
I think it needs it:o
Young Superman
10-21-2010, 02:23 PM
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5712/romitaspidermancostume2.jpg
This costume could work if they went with an actual homemade style costume.
chaseter
10-21-2010, 02:53 PM
Which would be lame. I am also perplexed as to why some people want mechs but also want a more comic looking, homemade costume. If Peter can mack mechs in his room, he can make an amazing costume:o
Oscorp
10-21-2010, 02:54 PM
^That suit kinda looks like a pajamas + mask to me :S
Chris Wallace
10-21-2010, 03:37 PM
You honestly have to factor in for primary colors in real life, because they do not work in a real world setting. That red has to be dark red, and the blue has to be a pretty dark blue to even look good. .
Says who?
I'd make that red almost a burgundy even.Did we learn NOTHING from Superman Returns?
Spider-Who?
10-21-2010, 03:39 PM
Says who?
Primary colors - especially red, are notoriously difficult to light and shoot. Take any film class, art class, photography class, etc and they'll all tell you - avoid bright red.
Spider-Who?
10-21-2010, 03:40 PM
Which would be lame. I am also perplexed as to why some people want mechs but also want a more comic looking, homemade costume. If Peter can mack mechs in his room, he can make an amazing costume:o
believe me, i'm all for spidey having the best suit possible, but just because someone is good with science does not make them a good tailor.
chaseter
10-21-2010, 03:57 PM
Bruce isn't a tailor but he made one kick ace Batman costume. He also isn't a mechanic, electrician, physicist, or chemist but he does all of those things. It is just one of those tiny details that really doesn't matter. If a guy in the theatre yells that Peter Parker isn't a tailor, how can me make such an amazing suit? I will slap them!
Alex The Great
10-21-2010, 04:56 PM
Primary colors - especially red, are notoriously difficult to light and shoot. Take any film class, art class, photography class, etc and they'll all tell you - avoid bright red.
Bingo! :up:
spidermanJLA!~
10-21-2010, 05:18 PM
Did we learn NOTHING from Superman Returns?
True that.
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-21-2010, 06:02 PM
Primary colors - especially red, are notoriously difficult to light and shoot. Take any film class, art class, photography class, etc and they'll all tell you - avoid bright red.
I think there's a slight difference between photography class and professional multi-billion dollar movie studio. If the powers that be are really lazy enough to be thinking "we should avoid red, because red is hard" then we have bigger problems than costume design.
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-21-2010, 06:04 PM
And yeah, the burgundy cape from Superman Returns was ridiculously drab. Superman's supposed to be bright and flashy, as is Spider-Man. Neither's costume should contain a colour your mom would paint the living room.
TheSlag
10-21-2010, 06:05 PM
Here's some more by 'Del Otto
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7019/158928-15950-gabriele-dell-otto_super.jpg
http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gabrieledellottospideyvslizard.gif?w=531&h=375
Wow! Wicked Cool!! :up:
Alex The Great
10-21-2010, 06:14 PM
You don't understand, Pumpkin Bomb
Red is a hard colour to light, because it is a bright colour. If we had a bright blue it would be even more so. It's all about aesthetics, or whatever the hell it's called
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-21-2010, 06:33 PM
I do understand. I went to college for TV and video production. What I'm saying is that, if they want bright colours, they can easily figure out how to make it look good on screen. There have been plenty of movies with bright coloured costumes, outfits, and what-not, and I, myself, have shot people in bright clothing. If the crew would really abandon that simply because it's slightly more difficult to shoot a bright costume, it doesn't say much for their overall work ethic and commitment to putting out a good movie, not an easy one.
If they'd darken the colours a bit for aesthetic purposes, that's different, and not what I was addressing. That'd be a decision of art direction, which is justifiable. I still wouldn't go as far as to make the red into burgundy or maroon or anything.
Alex The Great
10-21-2010, 06:46 PM
Uh....No one is talking about the work ethic of the crew. This is all Art Department
Pumpkin_Bomb
10-21-2010, 06:49 PM
Dude, all I was saying is that, for all the motivators there can be for changing the colours of the costume, "bright red is hard to shoot" shouldn't be one of them. Not for a multi-billion dollar movie company. Like I said, art direction? Sure. That's justifiable.
ModestMr.Green
10-21-2010, 08:34 PM
Christopher Reeve's Superman costume had a red that was brighter than bright. Spider-Man's colours don't need to be muted. They just need to be applied to a nice material.
Alex The Great
10-21-2010, 09:17 PM
If they made the colours close to what SM2's suit colours it would be perfect.
batman11
10-21-2010, 09:26 PM
If a guy in the theatre yells that Peter Parker isn't a tailor, how can me make such an amazing suit? I will slap them!
I hope we're in the same theater come 2012. Then we'll see if you're really a man of your word.
Heh. Heh Heh.
:o
Mace Bloodstone
10-21-2010, 09:27 PM
He buys a Under Armour type brand one piece and adds the spider design himself..
Chris Wallace
10-22-2010, 07:18 AM
Bruce isn't a tailor but he made one kick ace Batman costume. He also isn't a mechanic, electrician, physicist, or chemist but he does all of those things. It is just one of those tiny details that really doesn't matter. If a guy in the theatre yells that Peter Parker isn't a tailor, how can me make such an amazing suit? I will slap them!
Where were you when I needed you on the manips thread? I pointed out that no superhero is a tailor & got attacked. Superman's suit doesn't look like some farmer's wife stitched it together from baby blankets. Daredevil's suit & weapons couldn't POSSIBLY have been made by a blind guy with no assistance. Iron Man simply can't be done. And if it could, it would be a lot more like the Mach One than the streamlined red & gold that he ended up with. I could go on and on. I'm trying to figure out when visual appeal took a back seat to realism. And why no other genre of film is plagued by it. I don't see anyone questioning the believability of Harry Potter. Was there ANYTHING about Avatar or The Matrix or Terminator that seemed even remotely possible? Do we not know that Jason and Freddy and Michael Myers and vampires and werewolves can't possibly exist? DO we not know that John McClain should have died several times over? When I go to a Star Wars movie, I know that space is a vacuum. I know that sound doesn't travel in a vacuum. But I also know how abysmally dull it would be to watch a dogfight in outer space-and hear absolutely nothing. So I will suspend disbelief as I hear the engines roar, the lasers fire, the ships explode. Why? Because I've come to be entertained. How is it that we can accept the idea of someone getting powers from a spider bite, or survive having a mechanical harness welded to his spine, or wearing an alien parasite or any of the other numerous things that these movies show us, but call shenanigans when it comes to how they get their costumes? The only time I've ever questioned the believability of a movie is when it comes to the characters' behavior. I can't swallow that a woman could look at a man in drag and believe he's her grandmother. (Big Momma's House) I can't swallow the idea that a married man being stalked by his secretary would make one stupid decision after another after another. (Obsessed) I have a hard time with the NUMEROUS movie concepts in which a desperate man commits several crimes in order to prove himself innocent of one. I have an even harder time with pretty much everything that happened in "Lottery Ticket". But if I find the movie enjoyable (not to say that I enjoyed any of those last examples, except maybe the innocent criminal ones) then I can forgive it. Most audiences will, too. Many of the most implausible movie concepts are also the most successful.
Alex The Great
10-22-2010, 08:48 AM
I love it when fan boys make essays to prove their points! :awesome:
chaseter
10-22-2010, 09:03 AM
I hope we're in the same theater come 2012. Then we'll see if you're really a man of your word.
Heh. Heh Heh.
:o
I am also a good biter:cmad:
. Daredevil's suit & weapons couldn't POSSIBLY have been made by a blind guy with no assistance.
This is hilarious! I would love to see Daredevil come out with a terrible costume and think he looks awesome:D
Peter Parker isn't a tailor but do people really want to see a costume a teenage kid would make? No:o Lets suspend our beliefs for this one. Now if he made one that can turn invisible, sprout jet wings, and dispense coffee....then we can start to critique things.
Alex The Great
10-22-2010, 09:13 AM
Hooray for chase!
Oscorp
10-22-2010, 09:13 AM
^Yeah I agree. I'd prefer a cool looking suit before a "realistic" suit any day.
Spider-Who?
10-22-2010, 09:16 AM
I think there's a slight difference between photography class and professional multi-billion dollar movie studio. If the powers that be are really lazy enough to be thinking "we should avoid red, because red is hard" then we have bigger problems than costume design.
as a professional artist in a multi-billion dollar industry, i can tell you that it has NOTHING to do with being lazy. Its about what looks good. EVERYONE knows this and does what they can to avoid it.
Its just a fact of life that bright red is hard to control. it bleeds, looks over exposed, and is simply a pain in the ass to film and be a accurate representation of the color.
not too mention bright red looks cartoony. Bright red stands out too much, and for the most part, was what really pointed out the cgi in the other spider-man flicks because the red of cgi-spidey's costume was largely different from the real suit, again due to it being a poor color for film.
I'm not saying we need to have it be burgundy - i'm just saying the brightness really needs to be turned down some.
I, myself, have shot people in bright clothing.
then your films and videos probably looked really bad. you should never shoot people wearing colors brighter than their skin tone.
Spider-Who?
10-22-2010, 09:17 AM
Bruce isn't a tailor but he made one kick ace Batman costume. He also isn't a mechanic, electrician, physicist, or chemist but he does all of those things. It is just one of those tiny details that really doesn't matter. If a guy in the theatre yells that Peter Parker isn't a tailor, how can me make such an amazing suit? I will slap them!
trust me, i know what you mean and fully agree with you. I was just pointing out a simple fact. :up:
chaseter
10-22-2010, 09:20 AM
I wasn't referring to you. Go back in this thread and see people calling for a more 'realistic' suit. Tis a sad day.
Alex The Great
10-22-2010, 09:26 AM
Indeed :violin:
Deaths Head II
10-22-2010, 09:36 AM
This is hilarious! I would love to see Daredevil come out with a terrible costume and think he looks awesome:D
I always liked to consider that the explanation for his original yellow costume. :o
Spider-Who?
10-22-2010, 09:40 AM
I wasn't referring to you. Go back in this thread and see people calling for a more 'realistic' suit. Tis a sad day.
ah - you posted without quotes right after i quoted you and replied mentioning how just cause pete is good with science doesn't mean he's a good tailor, so I just assumed you were talking to me. :)
ModestMr.Green
10-22-2010, 09:53 AM
This entire argument would be cleaned up nicely if they took the Ultimate route for the suit.
Alex The Great
10-22-2010, 09:54 AM
I was thinking that. But I really won't want them to go through an origin story
chaseter
10-22-2010, 10:05 AM
ah - you posted without quotes right after i quoted you and replied mentioning how just cause pete is good with science doesn't mean he's a good tailor, so I just assumed you were talking to me. :)
I did the first part but I don't ever remember you calling for it to be home-made looking. If you did...then:cmad:
Spider-Fan83
10-22-2010, 10:05 AM
This entire argument would be cleaned up nicely if they took the Ultimate route for the suit.
didn't really follow the ultimate series.... how exactly was it explained...?
Spider-Who?
10-22-2010, 10:43 AM
I did the first part but I don't ever remember you calling for it to be home-made looking. If you did...then:cmad:
nope, i want it to look real professional...with sequins, a boa, and even an ostrich feather or two!
but yeah, its gotta be high quality. i can suspend my disbelief for a guy to crawl on walls and shoot webs, so i can do the same so that same guy can look awesome in a well made suit while doing all those things.
El Payaso
10-22-2010, 11:05 AM
Check out this wicked Gabrielle Del'Otto Spider-Man design I hope they benchmark for the film.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OeQMHbggQ-w/0.jpg
Here's some more by 'Del Otto
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7019/158928-15950-gabriele-dell-otto_super.jpg
http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gabrieledellottospideyvslizard.gif?w=531&h=375
LOVED those. :up:
Doctor Jones
10-22-2010, 11:08 AM
Meh, I hate those eyes. They're too thin and small. I always preferred the big eyes.
chaseter
10-22-2010, 01:21 PM
They always slightly changed the size of the eyes in the comics so that you could tell what emotion Peter was experiencing as Spider-Man. That is also why Raimi had Peter take off the mask a lot...because you can't convey emotion through a mask and if you widen the eyes during danger...it would look stupid.
ModestMr.Green
10-22-2010, 03:41 PM
didn't really follow the ultimate series.... how exactly was it explained...?
Soon after he obtains his spider powers, Peter joins a sort of wrestling federation to topple Crusher Hogan weekly. He shows up in sweats and a goggled ski mask for awhile, until the manager has a professional costume made for him to improve the show's image.
chaseter
10-22-2010, 03:49 PM
Don't want that.
Doctor Jones
10-22-2010, 03:50 PM
They always slightly changed the size of the eyes in the comics so that you could tell what emotion Peter was experiencing as Spider-Man. That is also why Raimi had Peter take off the mask a lot...because you can't convey emotion through a mask and if you widen the eyes during danger...it would look stupid.
Exactly. Just imagine the final scene between Peter and Ock with his mask on. :dry:
El Payaso
10-23-2010, 10:53 AM
Don't want that.
Why not man?
chaseter
10-23-2010, 04:58 PM
Because then you have a tailor and a wrestling manager creating Spider-man. They never figured out that they created Spider-Man? How does he repair the suit after battle damage? Does he go back to the wrestling tailor?
socool
10-23-2010, 05:01 PM
Because then you have a tailor and a wrestling manager creating Spider-man. They never figured out that they created Spider-Man? How does he repair the suit after battle damage? Does he go back to the wrestling tailor?
Originally, he crudley fixed it but soon he revealed his identity to MJ who fixed it for him for a while.
chaseter
10-23-2010, 06:29 PM
This is just such a minor detail that I cannot believe that people will debate over this! The kid can create a polymer in his room that is strong enough to hold tons of weight, he can create a tiny cartridge with enough psi to shoot the polymer hundreds of feet away, he has a brilliant scientific mind but decides to waste his mind at the Bugle, but god forbid that he create a snazzy looking suit in his room.
Alex The Great
10-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Hahaha
But yeah, the suit has to be snazzy. Otherwise he's swinging around in Pajamas.
chaseter
10-23-2010, 06:48 PM
I want the reboot to be realistic and gritty. I want him to order his suit off of amazon.com.
Alex The Great
10-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Chase, you're a ****ing godsend. That's the best idea ever :up:
socool
10-23-2010, 07:05 PM
I want the reboot to be realistic and gritty. I want him to order his suit off of amazon.com.
:dry:
:awesome::up:
chaseter
10-23-2010, 07:51 PM
Or overstock.com...you're at home with the O.
Doctor Jones
10-23-2010, 08:01 PM
Christ, now I'm getting flashbacks of those godawful Christmas overstock.com commercials.
I honestly don't get it. People want webshooters and can just suddenly suspend their disbelief into that while they want a homemade suit.
What the ****?
El Payaso
10-23-2010, 08:05 PM
Christ, now I'm getting flashbacks of those godawful Christmas overstock.com commercials.
I honestly don't get it. People want webshooters and can just suddenly suspend their disbelief into that while they want a homemade suit.
What the ****?
I think a good explanation for the suit is better than ordering at some internet site or having a Parker whose brilliant scientific mind suddenly makes him a great taylor.
Alex The Great
10-23-2010, 08:45 PM
Aunt May teached him how to knit and sew and all that ****? That makes sense :huh::up:
chaseter
10-23-2010, 08:52 PM
He took home ec in high school. If Connors magically knew extensive lizard biology and genetics then why can't Pete know how to use a thread and needle?
echostation
10-23-2010, 10:12 PM
What if they develop an aspect where he knows Osborn well is very much into military weapons and design and technology - while he gets his powers and uses a lame cheap looking makeshift costume while he's out trying to make money acting like an arrogant prick - He manages to snake off some advanced military style research clothing or fabric which then using his scientific genius creates an excellent form fitting, tough and incredibly durable costume - even capable of offering some protection?
I know it sounds a lot like Begins but it could work. That or they could just go the Raimi way and have him make this awesome suit
Alex The Great
10-23-2010, 11:38 PM
No
Just have him make the awesome suit and get it done with. Hell, have a 1 Minute montage of him making the suit. That way it shuts up the pro kick-ass suit fan boys :o
Eggyman
10-24-2010, 03:47 AM
Agreed, Alex. Let's not f*** about. Just make the b**** quickly and go have a swing. Or the other option is let's have a sh** film that gets bogged down with minor details, leaving no time for all the other stuff we want to see.
rcazzy
10-24-2010, 09:45 AM
A lot of you who are anti "realism" (it's not realism exactly, just something viable that could work) assume that a suit like that will be done in a way that will look bad. It doesn't have to. it could be made from simple fabrics, but still look excellent and could suit the character perfectly done in a different style to Raimi's film suit.
Minor details like the suit's creation could help the film, even if just shown during the intro credits sequence showing the origin or soon afterwards. It'll give an idea of how Peter got to this point and personally that's something I would like to see.
El Payaso
10-24-2010, 09:59 AM
Aunt May teached him how to knit and sew and all that ****? That makes sense :huh::up:
Not if you want a really gpood Spiderman suit and not some pajamas-looking suit.
He took home ec in high school. If Connors magically knew extensive lizard biology and genetics then why can't Pete know how to use a thread and needle?
Did Connors 'magically' knew that? Wasn't it part of his job actually, developed through the years?
What if they develop an aspect where he knows Osborn well is very much into military weapons and design and technology - while he gets his powers and uses a lame cheap looking makeshift costume while he's out trying to make money acting like an arrogant prick - He manages to snake off some advanced military style research clothing or fabric which then using his scientific genius creates an excellent form fitting, tough and incredibly durable costume - even capable of offering some protection?
See? A good explanation is not that hard and far better. I like this. :up:
I know it sounds a lot like Begins but it could work. That or they could just go the Raimi way and have him make this awesome suit
I am of the idea that a reboot should precisely avoid the Raimi way.
Agreed, Alex. Let's not f*** about. Just make the b**** quickly and go have a swing. Or the other option is let's have a sh** film that gets bogged down with minor details, leaving no time for all the other stuff we want to see.
Ah yes, like that disastrous film, Batman Begins.
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 10:30 AM
Batman Begins was good! :argh:
Agreed Eggyman, just make the great suit and be done with.
Also, the provlem with just using simple fabrics is that they won't work as tights. They'd be wrinkly, and just plain old ugly. Spider-Man wears red and blue TIGHTS. In every single rendition of Spider-Man, Comics and Movies. Spider-Man has worn the tight, snazzy suit. No one *****ed. Why change what isn't broken?
Alex_Spider
10-24-2010, 10:32 AM
What if they develop an aspect where he knows Osborn well is very much into military weapons and design and technology - while he gets his powers and uses a lame cheap looking makeshift costume while he's out trying to make money acting like an arrogant prick - He manages to snake off some advanced military style research clothing or fabric which then using his scientific genius creates an excellent form fitting, tough and incredibly durable costume - even capable of offering some protection?
I know it sounds a lot like Begins but it could work. That or they could just go the Raimi way and have him make this awesome suit
I will take your idea a step further as to say that the red part of the suit with the webs, could be like a kevlar like material that protects more his vital organs, as heart, chest, head etc if you know what i mean. Not durable to stop a missle, just a little more protection for small firearm.
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 10:47 AM
He doesn't need that damn it! Spider-Man can dodge bullets! :doh:
El Payaso
10-24-2010, 10:49 AM
Batman Begins was good! :argh:
I know, that's my point. Explaining things was the best part of Batman Begins and what made it a different kind of superhero movie.
Agreed Eggyman, just make the great suit and be done with.
:huh: SO did you or did you not like Batman Begins and its way to present the main character?
I will take your idea a step further as to say that the red part of the suit with the webs, could be like a kevlar like material that protects more his vital organs, as heart, chest, head etc if you know what i mean. Not durable to stop a missle, just a little more protection for small firearm.
Excellent. :up:
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 11:00 AM
Batman Begins was good for other reasons. Not just because they explained the suit. It was because of great villains, Morgan Freeman and Gordon. Bloody hell, man :huh:
Again, Spider-Man doesn't need armor, he can dodge bullets easily! :doh:
Alientraveller
10-24-2010, 11:06 AM
Peter Parker is clearly a great tailor, his interest in fashion is what got him bullied at school.
Alex_Spider
10-24-2010, 11:17 AM
He doesn't need that damn it! Spider-Man can dodge bullets! :doh:
Of course we know this. The thing is that that no matter how agile he is to dodge a bullet there is always a great danger for him to face death from a weapon. Always talking in the context of a BB type reboot and just throwing ideas. Afterall he did use in the comics a bulletproof suit. And we're not saying it should be bulletproof in that degree. Only the red portion.
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 11:21 AM
Spider-Man has never worn armor. Ever. Never needed it. His Spider-Sense warns him of everything around him. Why the hell would he ver wear armor? Spider-Man is famous for his tights
TIGHTS man :doh:
Ken-Kaniff
10-24-2010, 11:26 AM
Panties!:oldrazz:
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 11:28 AM
Yeah. Batman needs armor because he isn't super human. He can't dodge bullets or jump great heights. Spider-Man can do all that and more. He doesn't need armor. The very idea of Spider-Man wearing armor is ridiculous
Ken-Kaniff
10-24-2010, 11:30 AM
I agree with you! Besides, Spidey has to be flexible and be able to move fast in order to do that and an armoured costume would only make it more difficult anyway. The idea is not good either way, Spider-Man never wore an armour to begin with.
El Payaso
10-24-2010, 11:34 AM
Batman Begins was good for other reasons. Not just because they explained the suit. It was because of great villains, Morgan Freeman and Gordon. Bloody hell, man :huh:
Well, Ra's weas good. Scarecrow was pathetic. And as good as the actors were (most of them), that alone didn't put BB in a different league. It was the realistic tone that made audiences feel that Batman was possible. No more magically-appearing Batmobiles, or suits or gadgets. Now everything had a plausible explanation.
Again, Spider-Man doesn't need armor, he can dodge bullets easily! :doh:
Most of them really. But hey, wasn't him injuried by one of those Goblin's little flying pumkins? It looks like he can't dodge everything. I'd say that he would be in some serious danger with a tommy gun... or 20 of them shooting at him at the same time.
That said, it is not an armour but a little protection on the chest.
Peter Parker is clearly a great tailor, his interest in fashion is what got him bullied at school.
:joker::joker::joker:
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 11:42 AM
True about those Goblin blade things, but you got to remember that Spider-Man was having to deal with the fire and the Goblin. He had his hands full
ModestMr.Green
10-24-2010, 11:56 AM
Most of them really. But hey, wasn't him injuried by one of those Goblin's little flying pumkins? It looks like he can't dodge everything. I'd say that he would be in some serious danger with a tommy gun... or 20 of them shooting at him at the same time.
Yes he would, and that's the point. Batman is the unstoppable creature of the night, stalking through the alleys and rooftops and striking fear into everybody. Spidey is young, rash, and way over his head. There's a really great scene early in Ultimate where Peter is shot and Mary Jane has to come and help him to a hospital because he's in such terrible shape. It goes to show that above all of and because of those traits, Spider-Man is vulnerable.
ModestMr.Green
10-24-2010, 11:57 AM
Most of them really. But hey, wasn't him injuried by one of those Goblin's little flying pumkins? It looks like he can't dodge everything. I'd say that he would be in some serious danger with a tommy gun... or 20 of them shooting at him at the same time.
Yes he would, and that's the point. Batman is the unstoppable creature of the night, stalking through the alleys and rooftops and striking fear into everybody. Spidey is young, rash, and way over his head. There's a really great scene early in Ultimate where Peter is shot and Mary Jane has to come and help him to a hospital because he's in such terrible shape. It goes to show that above all of and because of those traits, Spider-Man is vulnerable.
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 11:59 AM
Then have one of those touching scenes. But don't wear ****ing armor. It's pointless change from the classic red and blue TIGHTS
ModestMr.Green
10-24-2010, 12:03 PM
No, no, I'm anti-armor.
ModestMr.Green
10-24-2010, 12:03 PM
No, no, I'm anti-armor.
El Payaso
10-24-2010, 02:02 PM
True about those Goblin blade things, but you got to remember that Spider-Man was having to deal with the fire and the Goblin. He had his hands full
And do you think it is possible that he will face another situation in his crime-fighting career where he will have to deal with more than just one thing at a time?
Because if he will, he'll need more protection than just spandex.
Yes he would, and that's the point. Batman is the unstoppable creature of the night, stalking through the alleys and rooftops and striking fear into everybody. Spidey is young, rash, and way over his head. There's a really great scene early in Ultimate where Peter is shot and Mary Jane has to come and help him to a hospital because he's in such terrible shape. It goes to show that above all of and because of those traits, Spider-Man is vulnerable.
So Peter would plan his crime-fighting career based on the fact that if he is unprotected enough he will be sending the message 'hey I'm a superhero but still vulnerable'?
If you have a scene with him explaining the logic behind that I could get just spandex.
Galactus123
10-24-2010, 02:20 PM
Eye lenses should be like this
http://www.mikecs.net/prodigeek/images/ProdigeekQAwithDanSlottcowriterofAmazing_9B3/spiderman_fcbd_jimenez_01.jpg
They are not too small or not too big. I like them.
Troy_Parker
10-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Yeah. Batman needs armor because he isn't super human. He can't dodge bullets or jump great heights. Spider-Man can do all that and more. He doesn't need armor. The very idea of Spider-Man wearing armor is ridiculous
What about the Iron Spider armour? xD
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 02:39 PM
Eye lenses should be like this
http://www.mikecs.net/prodigeek/images/ProdigeekQAwithDanSlottcowriterofAmazing_9B3/spiderman_fcbd_jimenez_01.jpg
They are not too small or not too big. I like them.
I think there a little big. A little too much like Raimi's lenses. I want something more horizontal. Sinister eyes damn it!
Dead Ken
10-24-2010, 04:06 PM
Armour would blow, This is CINEMA, TOTAL realism isn't needed. It's not like people are actually going to build a real, fully functioning suit for a real Spider-man or anything, it's just a suit that's going to be in a film for 2 hours, all it needs is to be eye catching and relevant to the ideals of the character's emotions and movements I think.
Also I want sinister eyes :P and the classic back spider design :P
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 04:07 PM
Sinister Eyes :up:
No beetle logo please :up:
Dead Ken
10-24-2010, 04:08 PM
Also, I think it would be a nice nod to the original Ditko design if there is webbing under the arms :D
No webbing under the arms, he won't be able to high-five anyone.
Iron Spidey
10-24-2010, 04:29 PM
Ultimate Spider-Man
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/652/652225/ultimate-spider-man-20050923111631677_640w.jpg
http://nerdiest-kids.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ultimate-spiderman.jpg
Am I the only one who likes USM and wide eyes ?
ModestMr.Green
10-24-2010, 04:34 PM
I love Ultimate and big eyes, but the more people talk about sinister eyes, the more I favour them.
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 04:36 PM
Sinister Eyes Damn It! :argh:
how about a fantastic four suit with a paperbag over his head.
Or perhaps he goes into a professional costume type shop and has four suits custom made for him right at the beginning. He pays in cash to leave no trace of his identity. After Spider-Man becomes famous he can keep going back to the same place. Nobody would suspect anything, because a lot of people would be buying them.
Iron Spidey
10-24-2010, 04:38 PM
I love Ultimate and big eyes, but the more people talk about sinister eyes, the more I favour them.
I've never liked sinister eyes, Sure they make him look intimidating, but he's the good guy, I dont want him to look 'evil', and small eyes are generally associated with that.
I've also seen in a few posts that people want him to have his colourful personality (as in, cracking a lot of jokes) in the reboot, wide eyes suit that personality so much more then sinister eyes could.
My opinion :V
@Alex: ~This shet^
@A&W: The amazing bag man ? That made me smile, reminds me of the really old playstation one game where you could play as that suit.
Can I get a few pics with Spidey's sinister eyes that you speak of, thank you.
Iron Spidey
10-24-2010, 04:50 PM
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/7684/Spider-Man%20emotion%20mask.jpg
Something like that, this isnt the best picture but it gets the point across.
Edit:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg
No, those eyes simply WON'T do.
Iron Spidey
10-24-2010, 05:04 PM
No, those eyes simply WON'T do.
This man has good taste.
Also, how about Tony Stark:
http://www.psychophil.com/weblog/images/amazing529full.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/JYC2mJd5NlHskktwTfkidiTEJq3ckN9HUgr5YrmDwNdjubktTM VoXz10RdiUZ8IXoL8jnqlycOKOh-xlpnC7VCKf-m-OT-ig/IronSpider.JPG
I really really really like this suit, whenever Im watching SM2, Im like "Damn, Those tentacle are so fricken absolutely awesome", now imagine them, more spider-leg-like, and on spiderman instead.
Ofcourse, it'd have to be done well, it needs to be as fluid and agile as SM, and shouldnt look thick, should be slim but sturdy.
socool
10-24-2010, 05:46 PM
This man has good taste.
Also, how about Tony Stark:
http://www.psychophil.com/weblog/images/amazing529full.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/JYC2mJd5NlHskktwTfkidiTEJq3ckN9HUgr5YrmDwNdjubktTM VoXz10RdiUZ8IXoL8jnqlycOKOh-xlpnC7VCKf-m-OT-ig/IronSpider.JPG
I really really really like this suit, whenever Im watching SM2, Im like "Damn, Those tentacle are so fricken absolutely awesome", now imagine them, more spider-leg-like, and on spiderman instead.
Ofcourse, it'd have to be done well, it needs to be as fluid and agile as SM, and shouldnt look thick, should be slim but sturdy.
:dry:
Seriously?
Reboots are supposed to improve upon the last movie(s)
Parker Wayne
10-24-2010, 05:53 PM
This man has good taste.
Also, how about Tony Stark:
http://www.psychophil.com/weblog/images/amazing529full.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/JYC2mJd5NlHskktwTfkidiTEJq3ckN9HUgr5YrmDwNdjubktTM VoXz10RdiUZ8IXoL8jnqlycOKOh-xlpnC7VCKf-m-OT-ig/IronSpider.JPG
I really really really like this suit, whenever Im watching SM2, Im like "Damn, Those tentacle are so fricken absolutely awesome", now imagine them, more spider-leg-like, and on spiderman instead.
Ofcourse, it'd have to be done well, it needs to be as fluid and agile as SM, and shouldnt look thick, should be slim but sturdy.
For the actual movie?
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
No
:lmao:
Alex The Great
10-24-2010, 05:55 PM
This man has good taste.
Also, how about Tony Stark:
http://www.psychophil.com/weblog/images/amazing529full.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/JYC2mJd5NlHskktwTfkidiTEJq3ckN9HUgr5YrmDwNdjubktTM VoXz10RdiUZ8IXoL8jnqlycOKOh-xlpnC7VCKf-m-OT-ig/IronSpider.JPG
I really really really like this suit, whenever Im watching SM2, Im like "Damn, Those tentacle are so fricken absolutely awesome", now imagine them, more spider-leg-like, and on spiderman instead.
Ofcourse, it'd have to be done well, it needs to be as fluid and agile as SM, and shouldnt look thick, should be slim but sturdy.
:dry:
:dry:
:dry:
No :dry:
chaseter
10-24-2010, 06:02 PM
I know, that's my point. Explaining things was the best part of Batman Begins and what made it a different kind of superhero movie.
Bruce ordered things from companies and then pieced them together himself. That means that he would also have to be a good tailor. Bruce is in no way an engineer but he somehow modified the army vehicle into having the batpod within it. Do you need that explained or was that something that ruined TDK for you? Did you sit in the theatre, see the batpod pop out and say: "Aw hell, Bruce couldn't have built that...I'm outta here."
Parker Wayne
10-24-2010, 06:07 PM
^ Just imagining someone do that last sentence made me lol
In Irom Man 2, Tony Stark made a particle accelerator in a matter of hours while dying. No one questioned that either. Even the people who know science let that go.
Young Superman
10-24-2010, 06:49 PM
I like this.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100807114017/marveldatabase/images/1/10/Peter_Parker_%28Earth-616%29_0004.jpg
El Payaso
10-24-2010, 06:58 PM
Bruce ordered things from companies and then pieced them together himself. That means that he would also have to be a good tailor. Bruce is in no way an engineer but he somehow modified the army vehicle into having the batpod within it. Do you need that explained or was that something that ruined TDK for you? Did you sit in the theatre, see the batpod pop out and say: "Aw hell, Bruce couldn't have built that...I'm outta here."
So you mean that it was actually explained that Bruce Wayne got help from Wayne Tech and Luicius Fox and that his suit and car didn't magically appear?
Because if it was then no, it wasn't ruined.
Even in Burton movies I could at least say "Well, the guy's a billionaire, he can afford it."
But in Spiderman 1 Peter barely was able to put together a ninja-like pajamas suit and a couple of weeks later, with the very same serious financial issues and no place to work in, he was able to make a suit better than those that the wealthy fans can make in real life.
Young Superman
10-24-2010, 07:05 PM
But in Spiderman 1 Peter barely was able to put together a ninja-like pajamas suit and a couple of weeks later, with the very same serious financial issues and no place to work in, he was able to make a suit better than those that the wealthy fans can make in real life.
Yeah that always bothered me.
Spectacular23
10-24-2010, 07:44 PM
So you mean that it was actually explained that Bruce Wayne got help from Wayne Tech and Luicius Fox and that his suit and car didn't magically appear?
Because if it was then no, it wasn't ruined.
Even in Burton movies I could at least say "Well, the guy's a billionaire, he can afford it."
But in Spiderman 1 Peter barely was able to put together a ninja-like pajamas suit and a couple of weeks later, with the very same serious financial issues and no place to work in, he was able to make a suit better than those that the wealthy fans can make in real life.
Same here. And even if he did "make" the costume the where would he get the material to make the raised webbing??? That look pretty damn expensive to me.
Spider-Vader
10-24-2010, 07:45 PM
Unless Iron Man is in this movie, we should never see the Iron Spider suit. It'd make no sense.
chaseter
10-24-2010, 11:05 PM
So you mean that it was actually explained that Bruce Wayne got help from Wayne Tech and Luicius Fox and that his suit and car didn't magically appear?
Because if it was then no, it wasn't ruined.
Even in Burton movies I could at least say "Well, the guy's a billionaire, he can afford it."
But in Spiderman 1 Peter barely was able to put together a ninja-like pajamas suit and a couple of weeks later, with the very same serious financial issues and no place to work in, he was able to make a suit better than those that the wealthy fans can make in real life.
He didn't get help from Wayne Tech...he took all of the old Wayne Tech merchandise and customized it himself. That means that he built the batpod and made it to where it would be part of the batmobile. You really think nobody would wonder why the hell they were working on the batmobile for Bruce Wayne? The only thing Wayne Tech did was build the cell phone system. Not to mention he outfitted the entire batcave himself. He also had to sew his suit together out of all the individual parts he bought but Bruce Wayne isn't a seamstress. How did he ever manage to make an awesome looking costume with no seams?
He is a billionaire and he can afford it but how could Peter Parker afford the tech to build the web shooters or did he pull a Macgyver and use a paper clip and a can or shaving cream?
Easily_Amused
10-24-2010, 11:53 PM
You know, I've been thinking about the under arm webbing. Normally I would say forget it but then I remembered the cafeteria scene from the first Spider-Man. As he was pulling the fork from his wrist it had some web strands attached to it and it stretched as he pulled it. It wasn't loose and looked like it could be stretched indefinitely. If the under arm webbing was more like that and stretched as he moved his arm up and didn't go slack as he put his arm down it might actually look pretty good. Just a slight silvery hint of the webbing close to the body that didn't inhibit any kind of body movement is what I'm thinking.
Alex The Great
10-25-2010, 12:07 AM
Maybe he builds the web shooters out of old car engine parts. He uses the money from the wrestling match to buy the engine or whatever.
echostation
10-25-2010, 12:12 AM
No webbing in the underarms... if those who want webbing in the underarms then you have to put it in other warm areas with heavy sweat glands and other orifices and crevices in the human body ie, if you put webbing in the axilla, then they should be consistent and put it in the anal and genital region too.
After all, spiders spew webbing from their rear-ends. Either no webbing under the arms, or you give him webbing in all his hot/warm crevices/orifice areas - Groin, Recto/Anal regions and the gooch. It would be best to give a little webbing between the toes and fingers as well.
Iron Spidey
10-25-2010, 02:18 AM
Webbing is useless, for a few reasons, it'd be hard to make it look attractive on the big screen, and they dont serve any purpose, they'd slow him down when swinging (aerodynamics), and its not like he can use them to glide.
sabetoonth
10-25-2010, 03:56 AM
I've never liked sinister eyes, Sure they make him look intimidating, but he's the good guy, I dont want him to look 'evil', and small eyes are generally associated with that.
I've also seen in a few posts that people want him to have his colourful personality (as in, cracking a lot of jokes) in the reboot, wide eyes suit that personality so much more then sinister eyes could.
My opinion :V
@Alex: ~This shet^
@A&W: The amazing bag man ? That made me smile, reminds me of the really old playstation one game where you could play as that suit.
I still own that game.
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/7684/Spider-Man%20emotion%20mask.jpg
Something like that, this isnt the best picture but it gets the point across.
Edit:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg
They look cool and all, but for the films id rather see large eyes, maybe not as large as Raimi's but larger the those, the second one i like the shape of though, maybe make them about 1.5 times bigger
El Payaso
10-25-2010, 07:02 AM
Unless Iron Man is in this movie, we should never see the Iron Spider suit. It'd make no sense.
Don't worry. No one here has even suggested that.
He didn't get help from Wayne Tech...he took all of the old Wayne Tech merchandise and customized it himself.
And when he needed a more flexible suit he... oh, he got help from Wayne Tech via Luicius Fox.
But I take that if he was allowed to take the suit and the Tumbler from Wayne Tech, that's getting help from Wayne Tech and Luicius, as I said.
That means that he built the batpod and made it to where it would be part of the batmobile.
Erhm... and how exactly do you know the batpod wasn't already there? Or that it was Bruce Wayne himself who built it?
You really think nobody would wonder why the hell they were working on the batmobile for Bruce Wayne?
Yes. Those people surely saw the Tumbler on TV during BB's chase. One of the lawyers even found out about it and tried to blackmail Wayne Tech and Bruce Wayne. I mean, at least nothing happened magically.
The only thing Wayne Tech did was build the cell phone system.
And I seem to remember the body suit was already made, he just painted it black. Same with the Tumbler.
Not to mention he outfitted the entire batcave himself.
Well, during the first one he barely put anything there. The elevator was already there.
He also had to sew his suit together out of all the individual parts he bought but Bruce Wayne isn't a seamstress. How did he ever manage to make an awesome looking costume with no seams?
The whole body suit was already done. What he did was to put the bat-ears in the mask.
And in any case, he's a billionaire who can afford the necessary technology to build that himself - ala Tony Stark. He's not a pennyless teenager.
He is a billionaire and he can afford it but how could Peter Parker afford the tech to build the web shooters or did he pull a Macgyver and use a paper clip and a can or shaving cream?
He must have had some external help.
Which was the original suggestion for the suit, remember?
chaseter
10-25-2010, 08:37 AM
But he had to sew it all together. They were pieces, it wasn't a whole suit. It is the same thing as Pete getting fabric and putting it all together.
Fabric Store = Wayne Tech
This is really an entirely idiotic debate. It is a costume. They shouldn't spend 20 minutes with a montage of Pete sewing or ordering pieces of it online. There are way more important things story wise to delve into than wondering if a high school kid could make an amazing costume. But you once again ignore Bruce building the batpod. It isn't plausible that Bruce Wayne built it but who cares? In a universe where science is blurred with the fantastical and supernatural, are you really going to demand that we see a realistic explanation for a costume?
Mace Bloodstone
10-25-2010, 08:43 AM
This is just due to lack of any new news to talk about.
Mace Bloodstone
10-25-2010, 08:48 AM
- And people are wondering just for fun how would you go about making a spider suit if you were in this comic book situation.
Iron Spidey
10-25-2010, 08:53 AM
Get a tailor. Remain anonymous and only see him/her for measurements and picking up the suit.
Galactus123
10-25-2010, 11:34 AM
I like this costume from the animated series 2003:
http://a69.g.akamai.net/n/69/10688/v1/img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/64/46/36/18781213.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2007/04/spidey.jpg
Spider-Who?
10-25-2010, 02:01 PM
He didn't get help from Wayne Tech...he took all of the old Wayne Tech merchandise and customized it himself.
in the movies, they show him getting a nearly complete suit from Fox.
That means that he built the batpod and made it to where it would be part of the batmobile.
I'm fairly certain that the batpod was meant to be a preexisting part of the batmobile, prior to fox giving it to wayne.
The only thing Wayne Tech did was build the cell phone system.
Confirmed items from Wayne Tech in Batman Begins:
Batmobile
Suit/armor
Cape
various gadgets they show him with
Confirmed items from Wayne Tech in The Dark Knight:
new Suit/armor
more gadgets
cell phone device
He also had to sew his suit together out of all the individual parts he bought but Bruce Wayne isn't a seamstress. How did he ever manage to make an awesome looking costume with no seams?
Again, the movies show that Fox made the suits. Batman just added to them (mask, belt, cape), all of which, if you note, are really just "slide it on/over" additions, no sowing required (though they did show his sowing/messing with the belt in BB).
He is a billionaire and he can afford it but how could Peter Parker afford the tech to build the web shooters or did he pull a Macgyver and use a paper clip and a can or shaving cream?
Thats the thing with Peter - he is smart enough to use what he has available to him and not be (too) hindered by his financial limitations. His life and means are comparable to "Tony Stark in a cave...with a bunch of scraps".
El Payaso
10-25-2010, 02:45 PM
But he had to sew it all together. They were pieces, it wasn't a whole suit. It is the same thing as Pete getting fabric and putting it all together.
Fabric Store = Wayne Tech
Sure. Bruce had the money for the time and the right materials in order to make a fantastic suit. Peter does not have any of those. So it's far beyond merely sewing.
This is really an entirely idiotic debate.
If you think it well, coming everyday to debate about fantasy could be idiotic to many people. Not to me though.
It is a costume. They shouldn't spend 20 minutes with a montage of Pete sewing or ordering pieces of it online. There are way more important things story wise to delve into than wondering if a high school kid could make an amazing costume.
Why should they do that? They should use a little time to explain where the suit comes from, that's all. It was fantastically done for Batman Begins and it didn't hurt one bit. On the contrary.
The story someone else proposed was that Peter had some external help, so no need to show Peter sewing.
But you once again ignore Bruce building the batpod.
I tend to ignore things that didn't happen.
It is you who ignored my question: Did Bruce built that himself?
It isn't plausible that Bruce Wayne built it but who cares?
I do. But from what I saw on TDK the mopst probable thing is that Wayne Tech did that, not Bruce.
In a universe where science is blurred with the fantastical and supernatural, are you really going to demand that we see a realistic explanation for a costume?
Oh yes.
Part of the magic of fantasy is making it plausible and believable.
Spider-Who?
10-25-2010, 02:56 PM
This is really an entirely idiotic debate. It is a costume. They shouldn't spend 20 minutes with a montage of Pete sewing or ordering pieces of it online. There are way more important things story wise to delve into than wondering if a high school kid could make an amazing costume.
i do fully agree with this.
its important for batman because the suit is more than just some spandex. it has many functions that are important facets of who Batman is. Without his suit, Wayne is not Batman.
But its entirely different for Spider-Man. His suit serves no higher function than masking his identity in a stylish way. Without his suit, Peter still has all the powers and charm that make him spider-man. So story wise, the creation of his suit is far less important.
chaseter
10-25-2010, 04:06 PM
I just think some people on here will whine that Peter was eating pancakes instead of wheatcakes:o
sabetoonth
10-25-2010, 04:20 PM
Don't worry. No one here has even suggested that.
Exhibit A:
This man has good taste.
Also, how about Tony Stark:
http://www.psychophil.com/weblog/images/amazing529full.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/JYC2mJd5NlHskktwTfkidiTEJq3ckN9HUgr5YrmDwNdjubktTM VoXz10RdiUZ8IXoL8jnqlycOKOh-xlpnC7VCKf-m-OT-ig/IronSpider.JPG
I really really really like this suit, whenever Im watching SM2, Im like "Damn, Those tentacle are so fricken absolutely awesome", now imagine them, more spider-leg-like, and on spiderman instead.
Ofcourse, it'd have to be done well, it needs to be as fluid and agile as SM, and shouldnt look thick, should be slim but sturdy.
Iron Spidey
10-25-2010, 04:22 PM
I've always been an exception, and where people dont like the iron suit, I do. :V
Spider-Who?
10-25-2010, 04:27 PM
i dig the iron spidey suit. not a huge fan of the storyline it came from, nor the guy who created the design, but on its own, and with the picture above, i do dig the suit.
i do NOT want to see it in the films, though, because i don't want to see that story line, but i will say that I think it would be a bad ass suit to see in live action in some other, alternate reality where the story line it came from was actually good and worthy of being put to film.
Iron Spidey
10-25-2010, 04:32 PM
Speaking about the iron spidey storyline, could anyone give me a short synopsis on the storyline behind the suit ? I know Tony Stark builds it for him, but thats all :C
Doctor Jones
10-25-2010, 04:40 PM
Something like that, this isnt the best picture but it gets the point across.
Edit:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2866/70181421.jpg
Now this I can live with.
Doctor Jones
10-25-2010, 04:47 PM
I really don't know why we would be wasting time having to explain a cool looking suit that's meant to be looked at with the thought of coolness instead of focusing on the plot and characters. The eveolution of the suit has nothing to do with Peter growing as a character. He made it because it looked like a superhero and to relfect his powers and to hide his identity. It's as simple as that. Not everything needs to be delved into Nolan style like BB. I don't want to see Peter going to Oscorp to ask for any light weight fabrics that can withstand knives and gunfire. Peter has superpowers, and never gets shot anyway. Batman gets shot, stabbed and hit by vehicles and this should be explained because he's human with no powers.
Iron Spidey
10-25-2010, 05:18 PM
I really don't know why we would be wasting time having to explain a cool looking suit that's meant to be looked at with the thought of coolness instead of focusing on the plot and characters. The eveolution of the suit has nothing to do with Peter growing as a character. He made it because it looked like a superhero and to relfect his powers and to hide his identity. It's as simple as that. Not everything needs to be delved into Nolan style like BB. I don't want to see Peter going to Oscorp to ask for any light weight fabrics that can withstand knives and gunfire. Peter has superpowers, and never gets shot anyway. Batman gets shot, stabbed and hit by vehicles and this should be explained because he's human with no powers.
The suit within the storyline is completely unimportant except to help mask his identity.
However, outside the storyline, its extremely important, what the suit looks like will be one of the first (most likely the first) thing that will be judged by people looking towards this movie.
chaseter
10-25-2010, 05:39 PM
I believe Peter made his own costume in the original comics so you might as well throw those out because that isn't plausible.
echostation
10-25-2010, 09:39 PM
no one can counter my explanation of why there should be no webbing in the underarms... finally put that to rest...
chaseter
10-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Because it looks stupid and it serves zero purpose = best explanation ever.
echostation
10-26-2010, 12:12 AM
I not only argued FOR this... this but I put it in a better context
I said If they want to do webbing underarms then they have to put it in other higher temperature crevices and orifices of the human body where more sweat glands exist - the anal/rectal region, the genital area and the gooch and behind the knees in the soft tissue behind the knee as well as a little between toes and fingers...
chaseter
10-26-2010, 12:37 AM
Spidey shaves though.
Eggyman
10-26-2010, 03:56 AM
I not only argued FOR this... this but I put it in a better context
I said If they want to do webbing underarms then they have to put it in other higher temperature crevices and orifices of the human body where more sweat glands exist - the anal/rectal region, the genital area and the gooch and behind the knees in the soft tissue behind the knee as well as a little between toes and fingers...
So you're of the belief that the webbing grows there naturally...? Interesting. It's never crossed my mind in that capacity. I always thought that he... put it there. You know, like a quick squirt from his shooters or whatever--either that or it's not actually webbing, but just a material that looks like his webbing but is an actual part of his suit. It's always good to see ideas you'd never thought of, and although it's not how I see it, to some extent I like the idea.
socool
10-26-2010, 04:50 AM
If this movie isn't an origin story supposedly...why are we worrying about how the costume is made?
Iron Spidey
10-26-2010, 04:53 AM
If this movie isn't an origin story supposedly...why are we worrying about how the costume is made?
The reboot will be an origin, and its pure wondering (and lack of any other subject to talk about).
Galactus123
10-26-2010, 05:54 AM
The reboot will be an origin, and its pure wondering (and lack of any other subject to talk about).
Batman Forever started the Batman movie series again and it wasn't reboot.
Iron Spidey
10-26-2010, 06:15 AM
Batman Forever started the Batman movie series again and it wasn't reboot.
Well theres a reason why they're all calling this new SM movie a reboot.
chaseter
10-26-2010, 08:29 AM
There is a reason...but we have yet to see that reason. Reboot is the new 'it' word. If someone opened a shoe store called ReBoot then fanboys would buy their shoes there.
ModestMr.Green
10-26-2010, 10:46 AM
Maybe Rhys Ifans is playing Hexadecimal.
Troy_Parker
10-26-2010, 02:02 PM
To everyone that wants sinister eyes...
it's gonna look like the mask from the 70s TV show. :/
Troy_Parker
10-26-2010, 02:03 PM
There is a reason...but we have yet to see that reason. Reboot is the new 'it' word. If someone opened a shoe store called ReBoot then fanboys would buy their shoes there.
Erm, new cast, new characters, new storyline...? I thought we knew that already. :|
chaseter
10-26-2010, 02:20 PM
Erm, new cast, new characters, new storyline...? I thought we knew that already. :|
For the last friggin time...that does not mean that this is a reboot with absolutely nothing to do with the previous trilogy. Batman Forever was a new cast, new characters, new storyline but it wasn't a reboot. I have been fooled too many times by producers, writers, and directors saying things to make the movie sound amazing. Until I get casting confirmation that dead characters are indeed going to be in this film, I am going to take what they say with a grain of salt. It was in high school, then college, then high school again, Gwen being the main love interest could easily be continued from the last movie, they are using a villain that hasn't appeared yet, they cast Andrew Garfield who is older than Tobey when SM1 started, and they hire Sargeant who wrote the Raimi films to come in and polish the script. It's funny, when Sargeant was hired to polish the script, we get word that the film is in college. So no, nothing just completely screams Batman Begins reboot to me.
When I see Norman, Harry, Octavius, or Brock cast...then I will know that this is a complete reboot. Until then, nope:o The new X-Men movie has a new cast and new characters and it is suppose to be a prequel but they aren't following all the continuity setup from the previous films so it isn't a reboot and it isn't a faithful prequel. What is it!?
Iron Spidey
10-26-2010, 04:27 PM
Dont think Ive seen this posted here yet:
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/TAS0.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/0venom.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/0tas.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/untitled-2.gif
Not mine, but it gives you a general idea of what larger eyes would look like.
Overall I like it (especially the last one), the shape needs to be tweaked and they should probably make the black outline thicker, but I think it looks pretty good.
LegendaryCaleb
10-26-2010, 04:36 PM
that just looks odd to me
RealIrOnMaN
10-26-2010, 04:43 PM
lol, awww gaawwwd, lol)
Mace Bloodstone
10-26-2010, 05:20 PM
somebody please leak a picture of the new suit so all this can end.....:eek:
rcazzy
10-26-2010, 06:40 PM
Dont think Ive seen this posted here yet:
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/0venom.gif
Not mine, but it gives you a general idea of what larger eyes would look like.
Overall I like it (especially the last one), the shape needs to be tweaked and they should probably make the black outline thicker, but I think it looks pretty good.
The shapes in these aren't all exactly the same. This pic is the best example of the rounded eyes working, I believe. Very true to the comic style!
spidermanJLA!~
10-26-2010, 06:43 PM
somebody please leak a picture of the new suit so all this can end.....:eek:
agreed!!!!
Pac-Master
10-26-2010, 06:47 PM
Dont think Ive seen this posted here yet:
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/TAS0.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/0venom.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/0tas.gif
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/ACW1423/untitled-2.gif
No thanks. That just looks silly, IMO.
spidermanJLA!~
10-26-2010, 06:59 PM
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9992/20916558925spidermansup.jpg
Am I the only one that thinks this would be perfect?
chaseter
10-26-2010, 09:17 PM
No thanks. That just looks silly, IMO.
It does. It looks like a feminine Spidey. Maybe that is Spiderette.
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