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thorstone
01-11-2010, 07:45 PM
http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).


They also need to address the origin of the costume in the reboot: is Parker's silk is involved in its production, and who is his taylor?

Van Petrol
01-11-2010, 07:47 PM
I have no idea how they'll approach this. But the suits in the previous films were d*mn near perfect.

batman44
01-11-2010, 07:48 PM
I think the suit should remain faithful to the traditional look while being different from Raimi's. Go with rounder eyes and black webbing for example.

BTW that's not Ross' design. It's Wams, who is a member of this board.

MessiahDecoy123
01-11-2010, 07:52 PM
white spider and no raised webbing on the black costume.

Keep the big white eyes on the red and blue costume. Not sure about the raised webbing. If it can be done well without it then make it happen.

I Am The Bat
01-11-2010, 07:53 PM
I think the suit should remain faithful to the traditional look while being different from Raimi's. Go with rounder eyes and black webbing for example.

BTW that's not Ross's design. It's Wams, who is a member of this board.

That text on the left implies different...

batman44
01-11-2010, 07:55 PM
That text on the left implies different...

Doesn't change the fact, even Ross admitted to this.

craigdbfan
01-11-2010, 07:57 PM
I'd be happy with something like this.

http://www.webzee.com/media/files1/funnycostumes/black_spiderman_costume.jpg

Jick09
01-11-2010, 07:58 PM
I'd like it to be as close as possible to the Ultimate costume.
That is...big round eyes and the rounded spider in the back with its legs attached to each other.

Ceb-Man
01-11-2010, 07:58 PM
http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).


They also need to address the origin of the costume in the reboot: is Parker's silk is involved in its production, and who is his taylor?


I like the Alex Ross version, but I want the gloves to fully red

I Am The Bat
01-11-2010, 07:58 PM
Doesn't change the fact, even Ross admitted to this.

Ross should at least give him credit then... Anywho those bug eyes freak me out... I say stay with the original

Crook
01-11-2010, 07:59 PM
I'd keep the same design of the comics, but try to go for a more homemade look. Nothing cheap-looking of course, but nothing industrial-grade like Raimi's was. A healthy medium between the two.

Oh, and smaller lenses, plus a darker blue (maybe even back) to go with the red.

Immortalfire
01-11-2010, 08:01 PM
Reboot or not, the costume's basic design is perfect.

Dark_Lord
01-11-2010, 08:03 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg

Reboot or not, the costume is perfect as is.
The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.

batman44
01-11-2010, 08:03 PM
I'd keep the same design of the comics, but try to go for a more homemade look. Nothing cheap-looking of course, but nothing industrial-grade like Raimi's was. A healthy medium between the two.

Oh, and smaller lenses, plus a darker blue (maybe even back) to go with the red.

this.

Spider-Vader
01-11-2010, 08:04 PM
I'd like the webs to be a design on the costume, instead of raised. But besides that LEAVE IT ALONE!!! The costume was no doubt the best part of the Rami's Spidey's character.

NinjaCarm
01-11-2010, 08:06 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg

This is definately the way to go, and the small sinister eyes is a big part of "definately."

craigdbfan
01-11-2010, 08:06 PM
If there is one thing about the Raimi series that was absolutely incredible it was the design of Spidey's costume.

It's damn near perfect.

http://jcr.chu.cam.ac.uk/ents/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/spiderman.jpg

Immortalfire
01-11-2010, 08:06 PM
"near", nothing! It IS perfect. :spidey:

Flint Marko
01-11-2010, 08:07 PM
Reboot or not, the costume's basic design is perfect.
Exactly. There is NO need to change the basic design. That'd just be annoying.

NinjaCarm
01-11-2010, 08:14 PM
I love Sam Raimi's Spider-Man costume. It's one of the greatest examples of getting it "right."

But with this reboot it must be tweaked. And by that it's time to go back to John Romita Sr.'s small sinister eyes.

There is no reason to change his costume design, as in the Spider-Man red and blue we all know and love. No reason whatsoever.

Just different from Raimi's. Smaller eyes baby, smaller eyes.

webhead731
01-11-2010, 08:18 PM
God this makes me sick. It's so perfect already and I know they'll use something different. :down

NinjaCarm
01-11-2010, 08:23 PM
God this makes me sick. It's so perfect already and I know they'll use something different. :down

They can do better.

craigdbfan
01-11-2010, 08:24 PM
Honestly I want the same costume. Maybe with black webbing desgin instead of silver.

But thats it. The Raimi costume is perfect.

It'll be so awesome once the new Parker puts the costume on.

For nostalgia sake keep the same costume. Its not dated or ugly its perfect.

terry78
01-11-2010, 08:24 PM
We never saw him actually make the thing, it was just a montage of drawings and then, bam...he was swinging around the city. I want to see him actually sew the thing, stitch it together, etc.

Compi716
01-11-2010, 08:31 PM
I'd like a costume a bit closer to the comics, though the Raimi costume was as close to perfect as you could probably get. Maybe they could make the eyes a bit more curved? The symbol less angular and stylized?

I'm thinking maybe something like a mix between Ditko/Romita and Bagely.

Mister J
01-11-2010, 08:56 PM
I certainly don't want wholesale change. As stated several times over, the costume we got was bloody brilliant.

However, since you know there'll be changes, I wouldn't mind a black, screen-printed web design and a modest altering of the eye shape. Keep the lenses idea though and some sort of stylized spider on the back (never did really care for the comic design there).

thorstone
01-11-2010, 08:59 PM
I like the large lenses-- but they should be black.

They will have to create a new costume to define their version from the previous.

HerosOnFilm
01-11-2010, 09:09 PM
The current costume is good, only qualm was the red sections from shoulders down to his forearms was a bit too broad, probably due to the raised webbing. That, and I would have preferred to see the nozzle/spinerret (even though it's organic webbing) show through the wrist.

Spider-ManHero12
01-11-2010, 09:18 PM
They should bring back the one from the trilogy. It was PERFECT, IMO.

Jochimus
01-11-2010, 09:31 PM
Seems to me Spidey's costume was fine as it was. That said, though, I wouldn't mind seeing a version of the classic suit that looks a little less "manufactured", if you know what I mean. And Romita eyes would be nice.

Gamma Goliath
01-11-2010, 10:27 PM
gabriel del otto style maybe

NinjaCarm
01-11-2010, 10:32 PM
Seems to me Spidey's costume was fine as it was. That said, though, I wouldn't mind seeing a version of the classic suit that looks a little less "manufactured", if you know what I mean. And Romita eyes would be nice.

:up:

corby
01-11-2010, 10:34 PM
I loved the suit in the last 3 films but since they'll most likely make some changes, I wouldn't mind seeing something like the suit in the Web of Shadows game

Man of Tomorrow
01-11-2010, 10:36 PM
http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).


They also need to address the origin of the costume in the reboot: is Parker's silk is involved in its production, and who is his taylor?



I love this. The darker colors will work with a darker toned film.


They will definitely change the suit from the first three films. For purely marketing reasons alone, that's a smart move. They'll have all new merchandise to exploit.

Gamma Burst
01-11-2010, 10:50 PM
gabriel del otto style maybe

It would be great!

NinjaCarm
01-11-2010, 10:54 PM
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0807/AmazingSpider-ManFamily_01_Cover.jpg

http://www.xmwallpapers.com/wallpaper/comics/images/jw%20Gabriele%20Dell%20Otto%20wall%20003.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/1482940869_a517bd29e2.jpg?v=0

storyteller
01-11-2010, 10:57 PM
They aren't going to get a brand new design simply because its a new movie. It will be different just because it will be a new guy(hopefully someone who could be a HS and new body type). But why would they change a suit that worked for 3 movies and its faithful to the comic? No one has ever changed supermans costume outside of material used. It stays roughly the same shape. Batman needed changes due to the fact that the damn suit sucked to wear.

Spidey_62
01-11-2010, 11:21 PM
I hope they don't change it up too much, because I don't think you can get as faithful to the comics while still looking practical enough for film as they had already. Maybe just tone down the raised webbing and make it black, differentiate the front and back spiders and make the eye lenses a little different at the most if they must.

XxDelta09xX
01-11-2010, 11:22 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg


The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.

They should go with something like this.:woot:

Cartoonics
01-11-2010, 11:31 PM
I would think that the new production team will want to take their own crack at the costume. As with Batman Begins, I'd expect the new suit to be pretty close to the old one. Probably more of a change than there was between Raimi's films, but nothing dramatically different.

The one change I would look for would be bigger lenses. The bigger lenses always looked better to me (blame Bagley), and bigger lenses are more practical (they maximize Spidey's field of vision).

Deaths Head II
01-11-2010, 11:38 PM
I love the Raimi costume and I would be happy if they kept it. Though if they do go for something different I would just remove the raised webbing and go for something like this:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/1236226541194.jpg?t=1263274626

Stripesy Strip
01-11-2010, 11:52 PM
The movie version was almost too shinny and perfect. If they change the look a bit, I would love if they would give the character a costume that a teenager logically would have been able to create. Not something thought of by high-tech super-designers out of the big movie studio. That suit costed what millions to create? Not something Peter could afford. lol

Artistsean
01-12-2010, 12:05 AM
I sat keep it very similar to the previous movie costumes, don't make unecissary changes thinking that changes have to be made because its a comic book movie or a reboot.
Maybe make the silver webbing on his costume black, and maybe not SOO 3D. Maybe make his eye parts shaped different, maybe add the webbing under his armpits.
Also maybe add the Spider-Belt and trackers and such.

thorstone
01-12-2010, 02:32 AM
They redesign Batman's suit for every film-- why would they not change the Spiderman costume when they want to distance their film from the original.

Boom
01-12-2010, 02:36 AM
I'd keep the same design of the comics, but try to go for a more homemade look. Nothing cheap-looking of course, but nothing industrial-grade like Raimi's was. A healthy medium between the two.

Oh, and smaller lenses, plus a darker blue (maybe even back) to go with the red.
This. But it has to be blue for me.

JustABill
01-12-2010, 05:12 AM
I agree with the fact that while the Raimi movies got the costume spot on. Get rid of the raised webbing and make the webbing black on top of a costume that looks like it could've been made by a 16 year old kid at home.

The one in the Raimi trilogy definitely looked far too manafactured and I think it was mostly because of the raised webbing and the eyes.

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 05:23 AM
the only changes I want is black webs (rather than silver) and big round eyes (the current eyes are too angular).

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 05:26 AM
and bring in the spidey big round spider on the back.

GoldGoblin
01-12-2010, 06:01 AM
If there is one thing about the Raimi series that was absolutely incredible it was the design of Spidey's costume.

It's damn near perfect.

http://jcr.chu.cam.ac.uk/ents/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/spiderman.jpg

^
True,keep that costume.

B
01-12-2010, 06:10 AM
I thought the suit(s) in the previous 3 films have been dam near spot on in terms of design & colors/shading.

I mean the only real thing that could be tweaked is the raised webbing/logo (& perhaps the design of the logo itself), it could be made actually part of the fabric. There are also the lenses however I personally like the ones that where used in the previous 3 films.. I've never really been a fan of the more narrow eyed or circular lenses.

The movie version was almost too shinny and perfect. If they change the look a bit, I would love if they would give the character a costume that a teenager logically would have been able to create. Not something thought of by high-tech super-designers out of the big movie studio. That suit costed what millions to create? Not something Peter could afford. lol

While I understand what your getting at, the suit itself is very 'easily' made as some of the more practical Spiderman fanbase will tell you as I've seen several pictures of fan made movie costumes that look pretty much identical.

Immortalfire
01-12-2010, 08:42 AM
They redesign Batman's suit for every film-- why would they not change the Spiderman costume when they want to distance their film from the original.

Maybe to echo that Batman's costume has changed numberous times in his long comic run. It'll be blue, black or gray, but his overall look of pointed ears/bat cape are the staples that everyone knows. A few outward alterations don't have that much effect in his case.

On the flip side, Spidey's costume has stayed virtually unchanged for 47 years. And everyone seems to be ok with it.

Man of Tomorrow
01-12-2010, 09:46 AM
So apparently they ARE going for a darker, grittier take..


Meaning it's BEYOND likely the suit WILL be changed. Sam's suit from the first three films is too colorful and lively for the new direction of the reboot.

craigaat
01-12-2010, 11:04 AM
They'll never keep the same costume, I can guarentee they wont.

Nathan
01-12-2010, 02:51 PM
I'd simply have it less expensive looking. Either get rid of the raised webbing or simply reduce the raised effect. Also, actually make the webbing black. And maybe they could add the classic Spider on his back. most importantly though, stick to the classic costume, no reinvention needed.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6331/spidermanwebofshadowsarw.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/spidermanwebofshadowsarw.jpg/) http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8805/posterspideyvsvenom1.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/posterspideyvsvenom1.jpg/)

Crook
01-12-2010, 02:54 PM
I gotta say...the red/black looks so much f'n cooler. Black was the original intended color, wasn't it?

DorkyFresh
01-12-2010, 02:57 PM
i'd like to see something like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/spideyblackandblue.jpg

...except black and red instead of blue and red. i love how the eyes are done. i also wouldn't mind seeing Spidey with ninja-style feet.

I gotta say...the red/black looks so much f'n cooler. Black was the original intended color, wasn't it?
yes it was. his first appearance had a red and black suit with blue highlights on the black sections. many people interpreted that meant the black parts were actually blue, but black often gives off blue highlights.

Dangerous
01-12-2010, 02:57 PM
If there is one thing about the Raimi series that was absolutely incredible it was the design of Spidey's costume.

It's damn near perfect.

Nah, it sucked.

The raised webbing that often came out looking silver was YUCK, the triangle eyes I did not like and the painted on muscles just looked totally lame.

I'd like the webbing to stay black and not be raised but rather be part of the main costume. The eyes to be more round with thicker black outlines, and the spiders on front and back to be more classic in design.

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 03:01 PM
there is no way they are going to keep the raimi costume, they will want to make a clear distinction between old and new. my bet is they make an EXACT copy of the spidey outfit. i.e. big curved round eyes, no raised webbing, big round red spider on the back and what would be awesome, web armpits.

Doc Samson
01-12-2010, 03:02 PM
I'd just like to know what the hell a darker, grittier Spiderman even means? That type of superhero film isn't going to work for everybody, and the sooner these studio execs figure that out, the better off we'll all be. Spiderman, Superman, these aren't dark characters in the least, trying to go in that direction goes against everything they stand for, period

Nathan
01-12-2010, 03:02 PM
Some more. Dell'otto's drawings of Spidey are some of my favorites. I'd be totally excited if they managed to make the costume look like that.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1022/lizard.th.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/lizard.png/) http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8053/secretwars0100a.th.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/secretwars0100a.jpg/) http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4237/11hs3dx.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/11hs3dx.jpg/)

Golgo-13
01-12-2010, 03:52 PM
I for one don't want the raised webbing on the new costume.

And the one thing i hated about the previous movies costume, was the stylized 'slender red spider' on the back of Spidey's costume. I prefer the regular 'fat rounded' red spider on Spideys back from the comics and cartoons............

I also want 'arm pit webs'......

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 03:55 PM
I for one don't want the raised webbing on the new costume.

And the one thing i hated about the previous movies costume, was the stylized 'slender red spider' on the back of Spidey's costume. I prefer the regular 'fat rounded' red spider on Spideys back from the comics and cartoons............

I also want 'arm pit webs'......


you stole my post :cwink:

B
01-12-2010, 03:58 PM
I'd just like to know what the hell a darker, grittier Spiderman even means? That type of superhero film isn't going to work for everybody, and the sooner these studio execs figure that out, the better off we'll all be. Spiderman, Superman, these aren't dark characters in the least, trying to go in that direction goes against everything they stand for, period

QFT :up:

craigdbfan
01-12-2010, 03:59 PM
Nah, it sucked.

Nah, it didn't.

Artistsean
01-12-2010, 04:36 PM
Spider-Man's costume in the Raimi movies was the first time that a comic book costume was transferred so well into the big screen.
Even right before that the X-men were changed to wearing black leather gear.
Everyone was so sure they were going to drastically change the costume. Even Alex Ross did designs that looked different. It seemed like no one thought of keeping it the same. Sure it looked too professional and not something a high school student made but it also looked closer to the comics than most (except Superman) comic movies in the past. Even Batman had a different costume.

So maybe its not the best, but it was the closest thing than anyone could have dreamed of back then. Now maybe it can be even closer and better (without looking cheap, spandexy, and uncool, like so many home made Spider-Man costumes look)

itsleroy
01-12-2010, 04:47 PM
Raimi's Spider-Man design will always be my favorite. It's brilliant, it looks amazing. We shouldn't keep it, but in a perfect world we should.

Agent 194
01-12-2010, 04:53 PM
I say do the traditional costume. After all that's what the Raimi movies were moving closer to with every alteration of the design in every movie. I'd like to see them pull it off sans raised webbing too.

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 04:57 PM
Spider-Man's costume in the Raimi movies was the first time that a comic book costume was transferred so well into the big screen.



*cough* superman 1977 *cough*

Hurm...
01-12-2010, 04:59 PM
I think they should keep the raised webbing, but instead of it having a metallic color, they should make it black. They could also make the eyes smaller or larger, whichever looks better (I think larger is more logical). Since they are going for a film with a darker tone, a dark blue that is closer to black would work better I think.

Ultimate Doom
01-12-2010, 05:01 PM
Bring on the arm-pit webbing.

Artistsean
01-12-2010, 05:03 PM
*cough* superman 1977 *cough*
*cough*it also looked closer to the comics than most (except Superman) comic movies in the past.

Spider-ManHero12
01-12-2010, 05:05 PM
Edit

spider-neil
01-12-2010, 05:09 PM
* black webbing
* big curved eyes (romita era)
* big round spider on back
* arm pit webbing (ditko era)

none costume related
* spider signal
* spider tracers

XxDelta09xX
01-12-2010, 05:17 PM
I'd simply have it less expensive looking. Either get rid of the raised webbing or simply reduce the raised effect. Also, actually make the webbing black. And maybe they could add the classic Spider on his back. most importantly though, stick to the classic costume, no reinvention needed.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6331/spidermanwebofshadowsarw.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/spidermanwebofshadowsarw.jpg/) http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8805/posterspideyvsvenom1.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/posterspideyvsvenom1.jpg/)

This would be a great suit hope they go with something like this.:woot:

TheWrathOfGod
01-12-2010, 06:20 PM
Regardless of what the suit looks like, it should be plausible that a teenager from Queens could have made it.

bunk
01-12-2010, 06:36 PM
Regardless of what the suit looks like, it should be plausible that a teenager from Queens could have made it.

This is a good point. It is a movie, and I think we can all handle some movie magic. However, as long as they're rebooting, why not work this overlooked aspect into the story. If it's to look professionally made, let's see how that came about.

As far as the suit itself, I would only want to see minor changes. No raised webbing, and large eyes on the mask. The colors were fine with me.

Captain Planet!
01-12-2010, 06:39 PM
No new costume will compare. 'Nuff said.

terry78
01-12-2010, 06:40 PM
When I saw the costume for the first time in SM1 during the montage I was like, how in the **** did he piece that together?

Golgo-13
01-12-2010, 06:43 PM
Regardless of what the suit looks like, it should be plausible that a teenager from Queens could have made it.

Then we'd get a home made looking Spider-Man suit like from SM1 with Spidey vs Bonesaw...:o

Gamma Goliath
01-12-2010, 06:44 PM
if theyre going for a more serious spidey, i think del otto style design would be great

Nathan
01-12-2010, 06:47 PM
I say use the Ultimate route to explain how he got the suit together. He wrestles and gets the basic red & blue tights with mask and everything and later he adds the webs and Spider symbols himself.

craigdbfan
01-12-2010, 06:47 PM
How can some support the web shooter idea and then ask for realism in the costume?

If someone is smart enough to create a web shooter then surely they can make a great looking outfit out of lycra.

BrollySupersj
01-12-2010, 06:50 PM
Well, the costume as is, is perfect. But...nothing wrong with putting a new spin on things.

Crook
01-12-2010, 07:16 PM
How can some support the web shooter idea and then ask for realism in the costume?

If someone is smart enough to create a web shooter then surely they can make a great looking outfit out of lycra.
I do not see the correlation between scientific proficiency and cost-efficient material designer.

craigdbfan
01-12-2010, 07:57 PM
I do not see the correlation between scientific proficiency and cost-efficient material designer.

And making a web shooter would be cost efficient? Absolutely not.

If someone can construct such a device is it really that hard to suspend disbelief that he can make a body tight lycra suit?

Crook
01-12-2010, 08:10 PM
The device itself is used to extract and guide the fluids from the cartridges. That can be made with cheap metal and plastic. As for the silk, I can only assume Peter experimented with a variety of chemicals and all that science-y stuff. Material which could conceivably be attained at any science educated institution. Shouldn't be hard for Peter.

Raimi's suit in particular just looked damn expensive, lol. The material, the design work, it all looked top-grade in every aspect. No one's asking for Halloween-grade stuff, but a modest approach to the suit would be refreshing.

Alex Summers
01-12-2010, 08:32 PM
I was thinking his costume should be based on Ben Reilly's costume. It's different and pretty cool looking.

Artistsean
01-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Well, what if this movie reboot takes place during the first movie?
Maybe these next movies will be right after Peter becomes Spider-Man but before he graduates from High School.
So he would have the same costume.
Not saying they should do that, just saying it would be the same costume.

sdc10
01-12-2010, 10:56 PM
I gotta say...the red/black looks so much f'n cooler. Black was the original intended color, wasn't it?

Yes it was, but back in those days just printing straight black didnt come out that well so black often had a highlight color with it such as blue and red. Overtime however blue became the dominant color in Spidey's outfit. Same thing happened to Batman, which is often why his cape and cowl is blue instead of black.

Doctor Who
01-13-2010, 12:14 AM
http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).


They also need to address the origin of the costume in the reboot: is Parker's silk is involved in its production, and who is his taylor?

You know what's funny is that Spiderman was originally black and red with white eyes in the first few issues of Amazing Fantasy and the amazing Spiderman. I'd love to see more of Steve Ditko's design like the original black a red, webshooters, and web under the arms to go into the next one, but more modernized.

http://www.samruby.com/AmazingFantasy/Large/AmazingFantasy15.jpg

http://www.mikecs.net/prodigeek/images/711cc330f77e_14698/amazing_fantasy_spiderman.jpg

Kane
01-13-2010, 12:22 AM
I think it would be interesting to see a couple different costumes in the film. At first he could have that black and red costume that's more in tune to Ditko's original Spider-Man designs. Then, something happens that would cause Peter to string together a newer suit, which would be the more familiar blue and red design. Something along the lines of what they did in Iron Man with the different armors.

I'm also siding with the people that are saying that the costume should not look so expensive, as it did in Raimi's films. I mean, I don't want it to look terrible like a bad Halloween costume. But I would appreciate a more grounded approach. Something that, if you stretch the believability factor, could be plausible for him to put together. Then again, it wasn't something that really bothered me, so if they keep with that, I'm okay.

thorstone
01-13-2010, 12:35 AM
It would be funny if they did a black and white suit:

http://www.kamikazcomics.com/shop/images/spiderGblack_small.jpg

hitpehoaos
01-13-2010, 02:00 AM
The colours on the costume need to be less bright, otherwise villians could spot him from from the otherside of New York. If the colours were toned down a little it would look better!

craigaat
01-13-2010, 03:50 AM
Regardless of what the suit looks like, it should be plausible that a teenager from Queens could have made it.

I agree with that, the should look at Kick-Ass for inspiration.

Micah12345
01-13-2010, 04:18 AM
It would be pretty sweet if they did a different costume for each film.

Like in the first one have it black and red, with the webs between the arms and body.

Then in the second, do a more traditional blue and red with no webs and maybe different eyes and/or material.

Then if the story permits it maybe do the symbiote suit for a good amount of time in one of them.

Casius--J
01-13-2010, 04:50 AM
The costume in the movie is perfect. But for the sake of it being a reboot I'd imagine they'd want to change it so not to confuse the audience going into it.

So in this case I would like them to use the original design but just "Tone" it down a little so it looks a bit more home made. Such as removing the raised webbing and making it black instead, not having the scales in the blue areas of the costume and perhaps not make the eyes mirrored.

UnionJack
01-13-2010, 06:32 AM
I think the suit from the last 3 films works well, just make the black rim around the eyes a little thicker

Daybreak_st
01-13-2010, 09:24 AM
I just don't see the purpose of armpit webbing. It was dropped from the comics years ago. And really...why?

I agree the Gabriele Dell'Otto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Dell%27Otto). art is amazing and should def be used if looking for a new way to portray the classic costume, the art also has a more serious/darker vibe that they may be looking for.

Interestingly enough an iron man comic artist was brought on to help with concept design for the movie (Andi Granov) so i think it would be a smart move to bring in Gabriele Dell'Otto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Dell%27Otto) to help with the design work on this one.

smoothbody
01-13-2010, 09:58 AM
Here is the suit that should be in the new movie, because Peter can't afford to make a high tech suit. Peter doesn't draw his suit in a scrapbook. Peter uses needle and thread to make his suit, and this costume is perfect.
Cant wait to see Shia put this suit together in the new movie. Wooooohooooooo.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/sean2334/shiaspiderman3.jpg

Dangerous
01-13-2010, 10:34 AM
eyes way too big there, look stupid.

I think we can all agree tho, a more comic faithful version with no raised webbing, rounder eyes, and a fat round back spider is the way to go. Underarms webs too I think they will use to help distinguish both series.

craigaat
01-13-2010, 11:31 AM
eyes way too big there, look stupid.

I think we can all agree tho, a more comic faithful version with no raised webbing, rounder eyes, and a fat round back spider is the way to go. Underarms webs too I think they will use to help distinguish both series.

I don't. Both spiders on the original comic costume look dumb and while I don't think the spiders used in the movies were great, they're better than the originals.

spider-neil
01-13-2010, 11:35 AM
I don't. Both spiders on the original comic costume look dumb and while I don't think the spiders used in the movies were great, they're better than the originals.

it may look a little silly but it IS in the comics. I think it will cool to see an EXACT copy of the spidey outfit in the comics

craigaat
01-13-2010, 11:40 AM
it may look a little silly but it IS in the comics. I think it will cool to see an EXACT copy of the spidey outfit in the comics

That's fair enough, maybe they make PP's first attempt at the costume exactly the same but I'd like to see a totally new concept. Not straying too far from the source material though, maybe one of the Alex Ross designs.

Kane
01-13-2010, 11:41 AM
Not everything from the comics is going to translate well to the big screen. I'm fine for moderate changes here and there, but I wouldn't be too happy with anything major. I honestly hope they just stick with a costume that is different from Raimi's films as to not confuse people. I like the opportunities they have with this reboot. I just hope Sony realizes them as well and takes advantage.

The Lizard
01-13-2010, 11:45 AM
Cant wait to see Shia put this suit together in the new movie.

No! NononononononoNOnononononoNO!

sdc10
01-13-2010, 12:04 PM
Here is the suit that should be in the new movie, because Peter can't afford to make a high tech suit. Peter doesn't draw his suit in a scrapbook. Peter uses needle and thread to make his suit, and this costume is perfect.
Cant wait to see Shia put this suit together in the new movie. Wooooohooooooo.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/sean2334/shiaspiderman3.jpg

If Labeouf gets anywhere near this movie I will kill somebody:cmad:

corby
01-13-2010, 12:39 PM
No! NononononononoNOnononononoNO!

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/8IXCK1EyP4s&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
:hehe:



But seriously if Shia even thinks of being in this movie I will hunt him down:cmad:

Nightmare
01-13-2010, 01:22 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg


The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.

I Love this look!

Boom
01-13-2010, 04:14 PM
Just out of curiosity. How did Maguire see through the opaque lenses from the Raimi films? Were they one-way?

Kibo
01-13-2010, 05:08 PM
Yup, pop out oakleys or something.

Boom
01-13-2010, 05:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/spideyblackandblue.jpg
This is cool as hell. Who did this?

Rain
01-13-2010, 06:57 PM
NOT MINE





http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/RANDOMmutant/amazing.png

Captain Planet!
01-13-2010, 07:06 PM
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o1/CocaC0la99/AmazingFantasy15-4.jpg?t=1263431121

AlexRoss
01-13-2010, 07:08 PM
Doesn't change the fact, even Ross admitted to this.
Excuse me?

Pac-Master
01-13-2010, 07:10 PM
LOL!!!!!!! :hehe::hehe:

B
01-13-2010, 07:11 PM
:pal:

Boom
01-13-2010, 07:17 PM
While I always thought it'd be cool to see armpit webbing, I can't think of how they could pull it off.

What material would it be made of? Does it fold up when he has his arms at his side? And wouldn't the armpit webbing restrict arm movement to a certain degree?

itsleroy
01-13-2010, 07:19 PM
Why is everyone obsessed with these small eyes? I think they make the costume look too buggy, much less intimidating.

batman44
01-13-2010, 07:19 PM
Excuse me?

You're excused:whatever:

Who are you suppose to be the real Alex Ross. I doubt it because Ross said that Wams made the original design and he used that template for his paintings. Thus, there is nothing wrong with my statement. Maybe I should ask Wams to come in and clarify.

Captain Planet!
01-13-2010, 07:21 PM
While I always thought it'd be cool to see armpit webbing, I can't think of how they could pull it off.

What material would it be made of? Does it fold up when he has his arms at his side? And wouldn't the armpit webbing restrict arm movement to a certain degree?
A very small piece of Under Armour-like stuff. It stretches and doesn't really limit your movement very much.

How to do the arm-pit webbing shouldn't be problem at all.

Nathan
01-13-2010, 07:23 PM
Why arm-pit webbing at all? What's the purpose of it?

Boom
01-13-2010, 07:27 PM
Aesthetic.

Captain Planet!
01-13-2010, 07:28 PM
Why arm-pit webbing at all? What's the purpose of it?
What's the purpose of a Spider-Man reboot?

Artistsean
01-13-2010, 07:30 PM
Why arm-pit webbing at all? What's the purpose of it?
In the early comics they said that Peter used them to help him glide around. He can jump far and use webbing and agility, but he used them as additional help to get him further.

Crook
01-13-2010, 07:35 PM
Why is everyone obsessed with these small eyes? I think they make the costume look too buggy, much less intimidating.
What? Bug-eyes are associated with bulbous shapes, which is exactly what Raimi's and a lot of the big-eyed Spideys are like. :huh:

In the early comics they said that Peter used them to help him glide around. He can jump far and use webbing and agility, but he used them as additional help to get him further.
With how little surface area they cover, it seems like a thin explanation at best.

spider-neil
01-13-2010, 07:49 PM
a) spidey's eyes should be getting bigger not smaller and they should be curved not angular

b) the armpit webs dont need a purpose, they just need to look cool

DACrowe
01-14-2010, 12:22 AM
the old designs are amazingly cool and faithful. If you make it drawn on web-lines, they don't appear very well on film more to the eye and honestly just look kind of cheap. Hence raised webbing. I mean they can change color tone, eye lens sizes and even the shape of the spider on his chest/back. But the costume itself, which was touched up every film before, is pretty much perfect. Updating the look to Doc Ock will also be very hard to do.

thorstone
01-14-2010, 12:39 AM
They could have a classic style red and black suit at the start of the film; then it gets torn up, and in the second half he wears something of a mix between Alex Ross' Spiderman and the Spiderwoman style b&w suit (particularly the spider emblem, in black against the red).


With black lenses, the black will reflect light and create the white highlight from the comics-- that is how lighting works.

BillyD
01-14-2010, 08:14 AM
I think smaller eyes make Spidey look like a pissed off chinese guy

craigaat
01-14-2010, 08:21 AM
I think smaller eyes make Spidey look like a pissed off chinese guy

http://vistasucks.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/angry_chinese.jpg

spider-neil
01-14-2010, 08:22 AM
http://www.theretrobaby.com/store/images/spiderman_banner.jpg

http://d21-gaming.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/spiderman.jpg

I love sam's costume but for the new movie make it exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) like the comics

* no raised webbing
* webbing jet black
* big red spider on the back
* big white eyes
* big thick black rim around the eyes
* no painted muscles
* under webbing (if possible)

people say you can't improve on sam's costume, yes you can but by the same token you can also make it a lot worse if you're not careful

BillyD
01-14-2010, 08:27 AM
http://vistasucks.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/angry_chinese.jpg

haha! Rins a reb...rany rize...ratches rieves...rust rike ries...rookouuuuut...rere romes rhe rider-raaaaaan (yea i'm going to rell)

spider-neil
01-14-2010, 08:33 AM
edit

TheComicbookKid
01-14-2010, 08:40 AM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg


The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.


I do love that pic. The Raimi suit is great so the best you could do is a variation on greatness. Smaller eyes and if they get an actual teenager then they can lose the muscle suit stuff. Just very light padding in certain places. No raised webbing.

Nathan
01-14-2010, 08:42 AM
From Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. I wouldn't mind if the costume looks like this. Just with a few seams less.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2921/spidermanvs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/spidermanvs.jpg/)

spider-neil
01-14-2010, 08:47 AM
From Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. I wouldn't mind if the costume looks like this. Just with a few seams less.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2921/spidermanvs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/spidermanvs.jpg/)


make the reds/blues more vibrent and that's it

craigdbfan
01-14-2010, 08:50 AM
From Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. I wouldn't mind if the costume looks like this. Just with a few seams less.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2921/spidermanvs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/spidermanvs.jpg/)

I like this.

My only complaint is that random seams on the pants.

Nice avvy by the way Nathan. Just started watching Spectacular SM tonight (had only seen the first 2 episodes) and I'm already on episode 8 and loving every second of it. Very good stuff.

El Payaso
01-14-2010, 09:15 AM
I'd love something along the lines of what Raimi - or some designer - was thinking for the first movie (back in 2000)...

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/COSTUME2.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/COSTUME3.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/mrbungle_08/basura/COSTUME_.jpg

Crook
01-14-2010, 09:26 AM
The web pattern is interesting, but I'm in no way feeling the outline of the 'red'. Honestly, it looks like a fetish it out. Widen that out a bit, eh?

BillyD
01-14-2010, 09:28 AM
I like this.

My only complaint is that random seams on the pants.

Nice avvy by the way Nathan. Just started watching Spectacular SM tonight (had only seen the first 2 episodes) and I'm already on episode 8 and loving every second of it. Very good stuff.


I completely agree...I can live with that minus the seams on the pants...I think that is the only way they can go to make the suit simultaneously look good on film AND look homemade...the problem with making it homemade is there are only so many ways you can do it without making it look cheap...

I don't want a cheap looking Spider-man.

craigdbfan
01-14-2010, 09:46 AM
I completely agree...I can live with that minus the seams on the pants...I think that is the only way they can go to make the suit simultaneously look good on film AND look homemade...the problem with making it homemade is there are only so many ways you can do it without making it look cheap...

I don't want a cheap looking Spider-man.

Yup.

Thats why I think they should go with a bit more of a classical Spidey look with a bit of Hollywood sheen added(like the Raimi series costume) to give it that non cheap look.

BillyD
01-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Yup.

Thats why I think they should go with a bit more of a classical Spidey look with a bit of Hollywood sheen added(like the Raimi series costume) to give it that non cheap look.


Exactly....like many before me have said, only minor tweaks to what we already have is all that is necessary...If I can suspend belief that a guy can stick to walls, I can suspend belief that a teenager can make the spidey suit from Spidey 1-3...

DorkyFresh
01-14-2010, 10:17 AM
This is cool as hell. Who did this?
Jay Anacleto :yay:

TheWatcher
01-14-2010, 12:16 PM
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0807/amazingspider-manfamily_01_cover.jpg

http://www.xmwallpapers.com/wallpaper/comics/images/jw%20gabriele%20dell%20otto%20wall%20003.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1092/1482940869_a517bd29e2.jpg?v=0
perfect ideas!

eledoremassis02
01-14-2010, 12:30 PM
Why arm-pit webbing at all? What's the purpose of it?

to catch flies when he's swinging to eat later. :D

TheWatcher
01-14-2010, 12:42 PM
Here's Mine.
-A mix between Ross's,Del Otto's, and the classic
-Small eyes
-Dark muted Red/Blue(dark or not,They are essential)
-A Large Dark red spider on the back
-A Sharp spider
-Under arm webs
-Black printed webs
-Webs from the first movie
Thats my perfect Suit!

Deaths Head II
01-14-2010, 12:51 PM
I really dislike Ross's costume. I really hope they don't even touch that.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/1263280471534.jpg?t=1263495051

TheWatcher
01-14-2010, 12:56 PM
It's Cool,But not for a movie.

eledoremassis02
01-14-2010, 12:59 PM
Oh, here's some early designs and tests for the costume in the original Spiderman movie (for those who don't have the book)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/spidey1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/spidey2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/spidey3.jpg

NinjaCarm
01-14-2010, 01:03 PM
perfect ideas!

Thanks!

Chris Wallace
01-14-2010, 05:07 PM
I really dislike Ross's costume. I really hope they don't even touch that.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/1263280471534.jpg?t=1263495051

You don't hate it more than me.
I don't honestly think it's possible to improve on Acheson's design. My prediction-they'll either simplify it to where it (hopefully) looks slightly better than the guy at the Cons, or they'll make it more elaborate-using foam rubber or something to where it'll just look sad.

nasmannen
01-14-2010, 06:27 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1345/spiddecopy.png
Spidey needs bigger, more rounded eyes, yes, but he also needs to be significantly skinnier. Maguire was too bulky.

The Lizard
01-14-2010, 11:13 PM
The raised webbing isn't really necessary, but aside from that, the current costume is fine. Maybe a little less foam padding around the mouth so it's easier to see movement when Spidey talks.

Sawyer
01-15-2010, 12:50 AM
I have to say, though I doubt it'd stay the same, I really dont feel the need to change any of it. Except to fit the new actor, of course.

storyteller
01-15-2010, 12:58 AM
The raised webbing to me is a must. Its one of those things that is the difference between a store bought costume and a credible suit. The silver aspect though I think people see is simply them choosing a reflective webbing. Also without ebing raised, the webbing would be lost in the darkness or light. Now I wouldn't be surprised if the webbing design is changed simply because a smaller frame will require a new design.

Eggyman
01-15-2010, 03:47 AM
I like the large lenses-- but they should be black.

:huh:

Why?

Micah12345
01-15-2010, 04:15 AM
Can someone do a manip of the raimi spidey costume, and make all the blue parts black?

Im curious as to how that would look.

some guy
01-15-2010, 04:26 AM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5652/asmfamily001cov.jpg


The costume was awesome, but I don't think they'd keep it the same.
What it says on the marquee is what I wish the next Spidey movie would be. The reboot's a bad idea.

sdc10
01-15-2010, 10:37 AM
What it says on the marquee is what I wish the next Spidey movie would be. The reboot's a bad idea.

:dry:

eledoremassis02
01-15-2010, 12:19 PM
Can someone do a manip of the raimi spidey costume, and make all the blue parts black?

Im curious as to how that would look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/darker.jpg

Vaportrail
01-15-2010, 01:58 PM
The only thing I'd really want to see changed is making the webbing a little less reflective so the toylines will stop painting it freakin' white, lol.
Also, they'll prolly have to change the logo like how they did everytime Batman was handed off to new people. I wouldn't mind seeing the more circular logo that he had in the mid-90's. Always looked fine to me.

And hopefully they'll cast someone a little bit lankier. Tobey was in shape alright, but he always looked a bit stocky as Spidey.
Anyway. I wouldn't change much.

Octoberist
01-15-2010, 02:02 PM
VOICE OF REASON:

i feel like..don't change elements of the costume just to change it. I mean, GO AHEAD...make the webbing pattern black, make the eyes bigger or smaller, put the old Spidey logo on the back...whatever.

The Raimi costume was pretty much perfect, and yes, in the new series can obviously tweak it. But don't change certain elements, like black eyes, just for the sake of being different.it's stupid.

That person
01-15-2010, 02:07 PM
In terms of the costume's origins, I'd like to see something like USM, but have the ring give him the full design from the start. In terms of appearance, I'd like to see the original logo on the front and back, narrow eyes and a lack of pitwebs.

louiebling$
01-15-2010, 03:44 PM
All i can say is the best way to change this costume and seperate it from the previous films is to go with the best alternate costume Spidey has had.. House of M Costume :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spider-ManM.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/skidzz_1/costumes/house_of_m_05_alt.jpg

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/2/22/Spiderman_houseofm_3.JPG/300px-Spiderman_houseofm_3.JPG

http://www.actionfigurepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/House_Of_M_Spider-Man.jpg
http://dyn1.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/19374800.jpg.size-300_square-true.jpg

ModestMr.Green
01-15-2010, 03:52 PM
White or black non-raised webbing on top of a more homegrown looking suit, maybe something similar looking to good cotton. Also, something of a faded look to the colouring, especially with the red.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 04:13 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1345/spiddecopy.png
Spidey needs bigger, more rounded eyes, yes, but he also needs to be significantly skinnier. Maguire was too bulky.

I wholeheartedly disagree. The larger, rounded lenses look good in Bagley's renderings but are by no means necessary. Nor do I think they'd look right. And he doesn't NEED to be skinnier (not that that has ANYTHING to do with costume design.) Maguire was the right build for an adult Spidey. If he was 15, he would inherently be skinnier.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther/Concept-art-spider-man-animated-ser.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther/TheSpectacularSpiderman.jpg

JackIvyGB
01-15-2010, 04:32 PM
All i can say is the best way to change this costume and seperate it from the previous films is to go with the best alternate costume Spidey has had.. House of M Costume :



Haha, I was just gonna say this!

I would make a few alerations to it though. In my mind, I am picturing a cross between the House of M suit, Ben Reilly's/Spider-Girl's suit, and the WAMS/Alex Ross suit. Thinner/squintier white eyes, black raised webbing, darker blue (I could see Sony wanting to be ballsy and making it black though. I'd keep it blue, but wouldn't throw a fit if it was black).

I'm feeling creative... so I think I'll sketch up the idea with my personal favorite choice for Peter, Logan Lerman, in the suit.

As far as web shooters and Peter making his own suit, it could be said that whatever powers the spider bite gave Pete, one of them causes his synapses to fire a little faster or something, kind of a mental side affect like Spider-sense, making an already intelligent Peter even more curious and able to think faster, and learn and remember more, figure out more. As such, it becomes a little more believeable for him to make the suit himself and develop web fluid/shooters. Especially if they do something like Ultimate Spider-Man where the fluid is something Peter's dad was working on for another purpose before he died and Peter just has to figure out the finishing touch and mobilize it.
Kinda like what happened to All-Star Superman after he flew into the sun if anyone's read that. He was making new uniforms and cooking all kinds of crazy stuff for Lois.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 04:39 PM
I HATED the House Of M costume!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Immortalfire
01-15-2010, 04:44 PM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1345/spiddecopy.png
Spidey needs bigger, more rounded eyes, yes, but he also needs to be significantly skinnier. Maguire was too bulky.

Those eye pieces look ridiculous. Reminds of those dog pictures with the huge eyes

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 04:47 PM
Those eye pieces look ridiculous. Reminds of those dog pictures with the huge eyes

THank you.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 04:51 PM
"near", nothing! It IS perfect. :spidey:

No, THIS is perfect.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther/spider_man_two_ver6.jpg
As awesome as the suit was in the first one, the second was a VAST improvement. Better symbol, better looking webs-just better all around.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 05:02 PM
I'd like a costume a bit closer to the comics.

Ironic considering you have a TDK image in your avatar.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 05:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/spidey1.jpg


Symbol needs to look like a spider, not an ant.

terry78
01-15-2010, 05:21 PM
They're never going to please everyone. Ultimately the director will decide, and it will be faithful to some, and blasphemy to others.

OctaviusINC
01-15-2010, 05:26 PM
I made the lenses a tad bigger and angular. Emphasized the black outline on them and Brighten and the costume a bit more.

http://i46.tinypic.com/23ha8b9.jpg

But to be completely honest, there's no way i could really improves Raimi and Co.'s Spidey costume.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 05:37 PM
They're never going to please everyone. Ultimately the director will decide, and it will be faithful to some, and blasphemy to others.
You're probably right.
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/superman_returns_ver2.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther/Batman_bale_small.jpg
Or it could end up beng "faithful" to none, but rather "a logical change" to some & blasphemy to others.

jerky123
01-15-2010, 06:35 PM
Give his suit a more flat, realitic looks, and maybe they could make a joke how he can't figureout a good idea for a mask, so he just puts a bag over his head. [The Amazing Bagman] :lol

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 06:41 PM
and maybe they could make a joke how he can't figureout a good idea for a mask, so he just puts a bag over his head. [The Amazing Bagman] :lol

Um, how about HELL TO THE NO.
SPider-Man has the most iconic mask in all of comics.

Nathan
01-15-2010, 06:44 PM
Are we done overreacting? I'm sure he means it as some kind of inside joke, where we'd be seeing Peter for a second with a bag over his head because he's frustrated.

Milu
01-15-2010, 06:53 PM
The flat suit webbing works fine in the comics/cartoons, but in a live-action movie, he'd just look like your run of the mill Spider-Man cosplayer :hehe: . Keep the raised webbing!

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 06:57 PM
I would like to keep the raised webbing-maybe just make it thinkker & black. This is the best of both worlds, IMO. Redesign the symbol, (front & back) but keep it as spider-like as possible. I can live with larger lenses, but not Bagley-esque. This only looks good on paper.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/Spiderman-1.jpg
I also wouldn't mind armpit webbing, simply because I've always liked it & as long as they don't try to igve it a purpose beyond mere decoration, it should be fine.

Chris Wallace
01-15-2010, 06:57 PM
I would like to keep the raised webbing-maybe just make it thinkker & black. This is the best of both worlds, IMO. Redesign the symbol, (front & back) but keep it as spider-like as possible. I can live with larger lenses, but not Bagley-esque. This only looks good on paper.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/ghostofjealousy/panther2/Spiderman-1.jpg
I also wouldn't mind armpit webbing, simply because I've always liked it & as long as they don't try to igve it a purpose beyond mere decoration, it should be fine.

A&W
01-16-2010, 10:47 AM
keep it the same

spider-neil
01-16-2010, 11:17 AM
They're never going to please everyone. Ultimately the director will decide, and it will be faithful to some, and blasphemy to others.

if you make it the SAME then you will please everyone. the moans and groans start when you start to change things.

take superman, the reeve suit is 30 years old and looks better than the SR suit, why? because its more faithful to the comic book.

hellboy - exactly the same
iron man - exactly the same

the only way you get away with changes is if the movie is so kick arse that no one cares. talking about kick arse, an exact copy of the comics.
as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse from deviating from the comics.
singer made out the xmen would look stupid in their bright colours a few years later spider-man comes out and shows him he is talking crap.

spider-neil
01-16-2010, 11:20 AM
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/superman_returns_ver2.jpg

SR costume = EPIC FAIL!

Nathan
01-16-2010, 11:28 AM
Sorry, still not seeing how it's a failure. I doubt any of the GA complained about it.

El Payaso
01-16-2010, 11:32 AM
if you make it the SAME then you will please everyone. the moans and groans start when you start to change things.

take superman, the reeve suit is 30 years old and looks better than the SR suit, why? because its more faithful to the comic book.

hellboy - exactly the same
iron man - exactly the same

the only way you get away with changes is if the movie is so kick arse that no one cares. talking about kick arse, an exact copy of the comics.
as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse from deviating from the comics.
singer made out the xmen would look stupid in their bright colours a few years later spider-man comes out and shows him he is talking crap.

Batman - quite different.

And people loved it in 89 and they love it now. I don't see much people complaining about Wolverine not wearing yellow spandex and a helmet either. COuld Batman go back to the rey-blue spandex and be more convincing and successful than he's now?

Gamma Goliath
01-16-2010, 11:56 AM
I like the raised webbing, but I'd like to see the stitched in webbing, I'd like for the suit to look like a well done home-made suit. I like the cg spiderman model from the first marvel ultimate alliance cut scenes.

spider-neil
01-16-2010, 11:57 AM
Batman - quite different.

And people loved it in 89 and they love it now. I don't see much people complaining about Wolverine not wearing yellow spandex and a helmet either. COuld Batman go back to the rey-blue spandex and be more convincing and successful than he's now?


I said if the movie kicks arse you'll get a pass.

Chris Wallace
01-16-2010, 02:11 PM
Sorry, still not seeing how it's a failure. I doubt any of the GA complained about it.

Right. WHich is why the movie set box office on fire.

Dark_Lord
01-16-2010, 02:12 PM
Right. WHich is why the movie set box office on fire.
Right. Because the movie didn't do good at the box office because of the costume. :whatever:

Nathan
01-16-2010, 02:14 PM
Right. WHich is why the movie set box office on fire.

Sure, it couldn't have possibly been that the Movie was boring as hell. No sir, if the red just would have been brighter and the underpants bigger, it would've destroyed Titanic.

Chris Wallace
01-16-2010, 03:51 PM
I'm saying it didn't help.
Personally, I have never hated a costume (upon seeing the initial promo pics) and wound up liking the movie. Steel-bad costume, bad movie. Batman & Robin-bad costume, bad movie. Catwoman-bad costume, bad movie. The Phantom-bad costume, bad movie. So I can't separate the two.

Nathan
01-16-2010, 03:57 PM
I'm saying it didn't help.

It didn't hinder it either. X2 made freaking $407 million worldwide and they were all running around in black.

Tony Stark
01-16-2010, 03:58 PM
http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Spiderman/spiderman1024.jpg

I'm assuming they will ditch the red and blue and create a darker Spiderman like Alex Ross' design, black and red with black lenses (sans web shooters).


They also need to address the origin of the costume in the reboot: is Parker's silk is involved in its production, and who is his taylor?

The Alex Ross design sucked and was rightly tossed out.

I'm all for a new concept but it has to look like Spider-Man which his design did not.

Nathan
01-16-2010, 04:02 PM
Well, I see Spider-Man, don't know what's wrong with everyone else's eyesight. Not that I support the design for the movie.

And let's be honest, despite what you say, no matter the concept, hell would have broken loose about almost every tiny variation. It's either the 616 design, or people would've b****ed. It's just a fact.

Crook
01-16-2010, 04:02 PM
I'm saying it didn't help.
Personally, I have never hated a costume (upon seeing the initial promo pics) and wound up liking the movie. Steel-bad costume, bad movie. Batman & Robin-bad costume, bad movie. Catwoman-bad costume, bad movie. The Phantom-bad costume, bad movie. So I can't separate the two.
Green Gobln... :huh:

Anyone that actually associates bad costumes with an inevitably bad movie is in la-la land. It may be an indication of production values, but other than that the two have no correlation.

Nathan
01-16-2010, 04:03 PM
Hush! Don't destroy his concept.

Chris Wallace
01-16-2010, 04:37 PM
Anyone that actually associates bad costumes with an inevitably bad movie is in la-la land. It may be an indication of production values, but other than that the two have no correlation.

No-I said I'd never SEEN a movie I liked with a costume that I didn't. I did not say that a bad costume automatically equals a bad movie.

NinjaCarm
01-16-2010, 04:41 PM
What's with the ideas of chaning his costume to something ala Alex Ross' design? Screw that, leave his blue/red costume alone, simply modify it with black webbing, a more real look, smaller John Romita Sr eyes, etc, etc. Raimi's costume is great, yes, but it must be changed. I don't want anything to do with the Raimi trilogy.

Doctor Jones
01-16-2010, 04:59 PM
I can only see a few changes they could make. But not much.

Batspider77
01-17-2010, 07:19 AM
I liked the old Costume but for the new Movie we need something different....the new Costume should look cheaper with no raised webbing and bigger lenses,like people said before something that looks like it was done by a High-School Kid.

Spider-ManHero12
01-17-2010, 10:36 AM
I liked the old Costume but for the new Movie we need something different....the new Costume should look cheaper with no raised webbing No raised webbing? That would look odd, if you ask me.

spider-neil
01-17-2010, 10:48 AM
No raised webbing? That would look odd, if you ask me.

I don't think it will.
as good as raimi costume is (and its one of the best of the genre) its like a '9' with the comic costume obviously a '10'.

I'd like to see an EXACT copy on screen changing the minor differences; raised webbing, different red spider on the back, angular lenes, thin black edge around the lenes to perfectly reflect spidey in the comics

Chipper9620
01-17-2010, 12:00 PM
http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/200912240045.jpg

Something like this? I honesetly cant decide if I like the wider eyes or the smaller eyes better. The Rami version had it just the right size...

Chipper9620
01-17-2010, 12:00 PM
sorry it dp-ed

Doctor Jones
01-17-2010, 12:26 PM
They could change the eyes a bit and change the colors slightly and the spider but that's about it. Raised webbing should stay. It's easier to film and it can actually be seen rather than straight black lines.

Gamma Goliath
01-17-2010, 05:47 PM
Does any one have a pic of spiderman from the MUA cutscenes, from the first game?

THE LIZARD#1
01-17-2010, 06:40 PM
I'm trying to look for the video/pictures but what if they did something similar to the very first Spider-Man suit? They did a crawl test with the suit but I think it was CGI.

I'll keep looking for it but would you guys like that as a reboot suit?

Nathan
01-17-2010, 06:49 PM
You mean these?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/duo_maxwell07740/spidey3.jpg

My ideal costume would be this, just without those seams on the legs.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2921/spidermanvs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/spidermanvs.jpg/)

Gamma Goliath
01-17-2010, 06:52 PM
Those are the crawl test, but that spidey model is from MUA2

Nathan
01-17-2010, 06:56 PM
I know.

Nathan
01-17-2010, 06:56 PM
*double post*

Batspider77
01-17-2010, 06:56 PM
No raised webbing? That would look odd, if you ask me.

They are using a Muscle Suit under the Spidey Costume that gives it a good shape...so i donīt think there is need for the raised Webbing.

Deaths Head II
01-17-2010, 06:57 PM
You mean these?



My ideal costume would be this, just without those seams on the legs.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2921/spidermanvs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/spidermanvs.jpg/)

Like this?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

Young Superman
01-17-2010, 07:03 PM
Like this?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

This would be perfect.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

THE LIZARD#1
01-17-2010, 07:05 PM
Yeah those are the pictures.

Thanks for posting them Nathan!

Mrpaul
01-17-2010, 10:43 PM
I would go with the original. It's a classic

itsleroy
01-17-2010, 10:55 PM
What exactly is 'raised webbing'?

Sky Captain
01-17-2010, 11:02 PM
Webbing that is raised.

But I think for the next suit they could try a little different technique. Rather than have the webbing raised on the suit, the red portions can be like raised patches. Kinda. The webbing would be a flat black between the red parts. I think it'd be interesting to see.

Also, I kinda dig this (http://malottpro.deviantart.com/art/Romita-Spider-Man-Costume-2-134803368).

DarkJester
01-17-2010, 11:11 PM
Firstly: can any crazy Superman fanboy tell me wtf the big deal was about the SR costume? Is it really the cape's red is too dark? I mean, sure the raised logo may rub purists the wrong way, but I thought as far as a Superman outfit went... it was pretty much Superman. Like, 100% Superman. (And no, the costume was not responsible for the failure of SR, either)

Back on topic, I love the MUA2 costume. If they had to replace Raimi's, that'd be the way top go. Forget the whole "needs to look like a teenager could make it." To hell with that. 16 year old kids didn't design the Spider-Man costume for a reason: they're either retarded or simply don't have the knowledge and skill for it. People spend ungodly amounts of time and money making replica suits of the suit that exists. Factor in a teenage boy doing that but also designing the suit from scratch? Who gives a ****? People put waaay too much thought into how and where he got his suit. If anything, go with the Ultimate route, at least then the thing was pretty much made already.

TeejTurtle
01-17-2010, 11:45 PM
Remember those paintings Alex Ross did for the spider-man 2 intro...the suit looked awesome in them.
I remember seeing that and was like "why isn't his costume like that"
no raised webbing this time and i liked how his mask was in number one instead of the square-jawed version in 2 and 3.

http://bajolamascara.universomarvel.com/galeria/images2/alex_ross_Spiderman2.jpg

Gamma Goliath
01-18-2010, 12:21 AM
What exactly is 'raised webbing'?

Its the webbing on the spider man costumes, its not sewn into his suit like in the comics. Its 3-dimensional.

some guy
01-18-2010, 01:29 AM
Webbing that is raised.

But I think for the next suit they could try a little different technique. Rather than have the webbing raised on the suit, the red portions can be like raised patches. Kinda. The webbing would be a flat black between the red parts. I think it'd be interesting to see.

Also, I kinda dig this (http://malottpro.deviantart.com/art/Romita-Spider-Man-Costume-2-134803368).
I don't know, but raised patches remind me more of the Shocker.

Boom
01-18-2010, 02:16 AM
Also, I kinda dig this (http://malottpro.deviantart.com/art/Romita-Spider-Man-Costume-2-134803368).
"Now dig on this..."


I'm sorry :csad:.

Chris Wallace
01-19-2010, 07:12 AM
I say keep the raised webbing; just make it thinner & black. Ditch the textured pattern of the fabric for something slightly more simplistic. This makes a distinction from the Acheson design without being too far-removed. Lenses can be smaller but NOT Hammond-esque. Modify the chest symbol, & take the back symbol back to the old school.

DyeLorean
01-19-2010, 07:27 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224

From the waist up, I really really like that costume. Although the spider in the back should be just like in the comics; I love that spider.
I must say, I'm very excited to see how much they can improve the almost perfect costume from the first trilogy.

BrollySupersj
01-19-2010, 07:36 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224


I would gladly accept something like that.:woot:

TheLongestDay
01-19-2010, 08:14 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/Deaths_Head_II/Spideyimproved.jpg?t=1263776224



This would be PERFECT imo

Young Superman
01-19-2010, 08:16 PM
Agreed

Captain Planet!
01-19-2010, 08:22 PM
But what does the front spider look like? :eek:

A&W
01-19-2010, 08:52 PM
yeah that might work. It looks like the comic book version but it's still different from the movie version slightly. that's what they have to try and do. it's kind of difficult because the movie version was so accurate to it's comic book counterpart.

hame4479
01-20-2010, 03:35 AM
I made the lenses a tad bigger and angular. Emphasized the black outline on them and Brighten and the costume a bit more.

http://i46.tinypic.com/23ha8b9.jpg

But to be completely honest, there's no way i could really improves Raimi and Co.'s Spidey costume.


If they could make that work as far as the lenses im totally game.

Chris Wallace
01-20-2010, 06:50 AM
Seek help.

Goran
01-20-2010, 03:54 PM
I always liked this design :)
don't know who drew it though

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/kokigoran/spideyrebootcostume.jpg

It's perfect for a reboot! It has some quite big changes but still feels classic.
Just awesome! :)

What do you think?

Nathan
01-20-2010, 03:57 PM
I think no.

NinjaCarm
01-20-2010, 04:10 PM
I always liked this design :)
don't know who drew it though

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/kokigoran/spideyrebootcostume.jpg

It's perfect for a reboot! It has some quite big changes but still feels classic.
Just awesome! :)

What do you think?

I like it! I can definately see that used!

Octoberist
01-20-2010, 04:51 PM
it's funny how all these art pieces being posted are pretty much the same. Just different artistic interpretations, which is a given.

The Homer
01-20-2010, 04:57 PM
I would like to see the material that the suit is made from be a little less fancy. Not spandex or lycra, but not something that looks like it was made at NASA either. Definitely no more raised webbing either.

Octoberist
01-20-2010, 05:01 PM
the raised webbing is there for texture. I don't know if it'll good if it the suit was super smooth.

Nathan
01-20-2010, 05:03 PM
I just wouldn't make it so thick. That is all.

Chris Wallace
01-20-2010, 05:05 PM
it's funny how all these art pieces being posted are pretty much the same. Just different artistic interpretations, which is a given.

I attribute that to the amazing job done by Acheson; hard to improve on perfection.

I always liked this design :)
don't know who drew it though

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/kokigoran/spideyrebootcostume.jpg

It's perfect for a reboot! It has some quite big changes but still feels classic.
Just awesome! :)

What do you think?

I think it's unlikely as that is actually a concept sketch. One of many early considerations from the Raimi era.

El Payaso
01-20-2010, 05:19 PM
I always liked this design :)
don't know who drew it though

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/kokigoran/spideyrebootcostume.jpg

It's perfect for a reboot! It has some quite big changes but still feels classic.
Just awesome! :)

What do you think?

God Almighty! This is simply perfect! :up:

The Homer
01-20-2010, 05:34 PM
I think its a bit too sleek. I'd like something more homemade. Not quite as homemade as Kickass, but more in that direction

Dragon
01-20-2010, 05:55 PM
I attribute that to the amazing job done by Acheson; hard to improve on perfection.

I think you mean Steve Ditko. Acheson only brought his design into the real world.

brado
01-20-2010, 06:40 PM
I've always thought that the costumes from the first 3 films were a pretty weak plot point. Sure, they're completely awesome... but well beyond the range of a cash-strapped teenager to make. Even these guys that are doing super accurate fan costumes have hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in them. Dye sublimation printing to lycra, CNC router cut CAD molds for the webbing, spiders and eyes, urethane for those molds, airbrushed lenses... it just keeps going. It looks GREAT, but no way could Parker have afforded to actually make it, let alone (with all of the subcontracting) keep it a secret if he could afford it. I REALLY want to see something a little more realistic to the comics. Something he could actually put together with a little skill and a couple hundred dollars. I made a seven piece costume a couple of years ago (with mildly raised webbing) from just 2 colors of lycra, some mask making latex and flexible foam. It's NOT impossible to generate some halfway decent results (IMO anyway) on a budget without it looking like a $40 zentai suit off of eBay. Even if they improve it over the course of the films it would be nice to see the first effort be a combination of quality construction and BELIEVABILITY. :yay:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/bradolson/Spidey7pc.jpg

Spider-Vader
01-20-2010, 06:45 PM
But what does the front spider look like? :eek:
It's from MUA2, sooo....

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Deadpool77/1085893-marvel_ultimate_alliance_2_.jpg

Best picture I could find of his front.

hame4479
01-20-2010, 06:53 PM
I've always thought that the costumes from the first 3 films were a pretty weak plot point. Sure, they're completely awesome... but well beyond the range of a cash-strapped teenager to make. Even these guys that are doing super accurate fan costumes have hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in them. Dye sublimation printing to lycra, CNC router cut CAD molds for the webbing, spiders and eyes, urethane for those molds, airbrushed lenses... it just keeps going. It looks GREAT, but no way could Parker have afforded to actually make it, let alone (with all of the subcontracting) keep it a secret if he could afford it. I REALLY want to see something a little more realistic to the comics. Something he could actually put together with a little skill and a couple hundred dollars. I made a seven piece costume a couple of years ago (with mildly raised webbing) from just 2 colors of lycra, some mask making latex and flexible foam. It's NOT impossible to generate some halfway decent results (IMO anyway) on a budget without it looking like a $40 zentai suit off of eBay. Even if they improve it over the course of the films it would be nice to see the first effort be a combination of quality construction and BELIEVABILITY. :yay:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/bradolson/Spidey7pc.jpg

That is a pretty amazing fan made costume for just a couple of hundred dollars. Good job, how did u do the lenses?

brado
01-20-2010, 07:07 PM
That is a pretty amazing fan made costume for just a couple of hundred dollars. Good job, how did u do the lenses?

Thanks! The lenses are just really fine silver screen (a grease spatter guard from KMart kitchen section). Visibility good enough to read a paper through without fogging up like the acrylic lenses. :yay:

hame4479
01-20-2010, 07:15 PM
I always liked this design :)
don't know who drew it though

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/kokigoran/spideyrebootcostume.jpg

It's perfect for a reboot! It has some quite big changes but still feels classic.
Just awesome! :)

What do you think?
I concur, that is freakin awesome.