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Mr. Earle
01-19-2010, 01:18 PM
Perhaps its too early, but at some point its going to happen, so why not now? (We already have 10 Sinestro threads btw...)

So anyway, my first concerns:

1) The movie might suck, meaning reboots, production hell, no sequels, etc.
2) The audience might not love GL like they did Ironman for example. Results: same as above.
3) Green light constructs and green aura. Are my eyes going to hurt while watching the movie?

BigSams50
01-19-2010, 03:31 PM
Perhaps its too early, but at some point its going to happen, so why not now? (We already have 10 Sinestro threads btw...)

So anyway, my first concerns:

1) The movie might suck, meaning reboots, production hell, no sequels, etc.
2) The audience might not love GL like they did Ironman for example. Results: same as above.
3) Green light constructs and green aura. Are my eyes going to hurt while watching the movie?

Thats my biggest concern. I'm hoping it doesnt look stupid

dnno1
01-19-2010, 03:31 PM
First of all, Mr. Earle, let's state the obvious. Since this is the first film, if the movie sucks, there will never be another one made and, hence no franchise or a reboot. Just ask the makers of films like "Condorman", "Howard the Duck", "Tank Girl", and others. It will also affect the credibility of a really good director, so I don't think it is likely to suck.

Second, you can't please everyone, so there will be people out there that may not love GL (especially true Ironman fans). I have been a firm believer that outside of the comic book fans out there that will support this film, the producers need to market to folks from both science fiction and fantasy genres (specifically Star Wars and Star Trek fans). It is said that there are as many Star Trek fans as a small country and it would behoove the producers to get them intrested in this film.

Finally, a lot has happened to technology and the way we make films, that I wouldn't worry so much about the effect of the green light constructs. Something like that seemed to work well with films like "The Mask" and "Spider-Man III" (with the Sandman) so that will be the least of our worries. The biggest question now will be how are the going to deal with piracy and competion with other films being releast around the same time.

Webhead2006
01-19-2010, 03:56 PM
yea i am not to worry about the film myself. They got a solid script, crew, director, cast i like for the most part so far. i do agree i hope the film does well and looks good. which i am sure they will do their best to do.

chiefchirpa
01-20-2010, 09:32 AM
My hope is they don't overdo the GL oath. Fine in comic book form, can be quite cheesy in motion picture.

Showtime
01-20-2010, 09:49 AM
Perhaps its too early, but at some point its going to happen, so why not now? (We already have 10 Sinestro threads btw...)



Not anymore.

Majmun
01-20-2010, 03:14 PM
My hope is they don't overdo the GL oath. Fine in comic book form, can be quite cheesy in motion picture.
I like the oath and think it can be done nicely on film. But yeah, not too many times. I had a dream the other night where I was a Green Lantern and I was trying to remember the oath and kept getting it wrong, therefore not able to charge my ring, lmao.

But maybe they could have the oath once and the other times just part of it being said while they switch to another scene....

REDophile
01-20-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm still puzzled at the Carol Ferris casting, no serious concerns anywhere else. But I trust Campbell, dig what he's been saying in recent interviews.

Webhead2006
01-21-2010, 12:17 AM
yea out of who we got for hal/hector/sinestro the carol choice is still a bit urrrgh to me. But i am willing to give her a chance. Heck campbell for all we know could pull out some good work with blake.

Mr. Earle
01-21-2010, 02:42 AM
Not anymore.Thank god! It was a nightmare!

Chris B
01-21-2010, 02:35 PM
My only real concern at this point is Blake Lively as Carol Ferris. And she's growing on me as time goes on.

Motown Marvel
01-21-2010, 03:05 PM
i've always been concerned about ryan reynolds. i just dont think he's the right actor for the job. maybe he'll prove me wrong, i hope he does. but right now, im not convinced.

secondly, i've heard the director reference iron man. to me, iron man was pretty bad. it was entirely formulaic, and totally all popcorn and no story. im cool with some light hearted popcorn fun, but if its not backed up by a solid story, then im not sold.

Man of Tomorrow
01-21-2010, 03:25 PM
I'm concerned with how Hal is written in the script.

I hope it's a recognizable form of Hal Jordan...

And not an overly comedic character like most of Ryan Reynolds' roles...


I have an eerie feeling they were trying to make Hal more 'Tony Stark'-like in personality for the sake of riding off Ironman's success.

Mr. Earle
01-21-2010, 03:38 PM
I read the script that's been floating around the internet and it seems like there is a lot of action happening on Oa. Add to that the light constructs, the action on Earth, etc and the film will need a hell of a lot of CGI. I hope they have the budget to pull it off.I'm concerned with how Hal is written in the script.

I hope it's a recognizable form of Hal Jordan...

And not an overly comedic character like most of Ryan Reynolds' roles...


I have an eerie feeling they were trying to make Hal more 'Tony Stark'-like in personality for the sake of riding off Ironman's success.

Oh god i hope not...

Webhead2006
01-21-2010, 06:33 PM
i am sure once we see set photos, and footage all will be pretty happy.

Wesley Dodds
01-23-2010, 02:35 PM
My concern's are all very minor... Things like having another Katie Holmes/Kate Bosworth incident with Blake Lively, that and the fact that the GA might not buy the fact that a simple domino mask can disguise Hal Jordan so effectively.

Mr. Earle
01-23-2010, 06:09 PM
Well they buy that a pair of glasses disguise Superman...
They could change his hairdo as well (like Superman), to increase the difference in appearence between GL and Hal.
I am more afraid of how the GA will treat a guy whose ring makes light constructs based on his willpower. Will it be cheesy to them, or cool like Ironman?

Wesley Dodds
01-23-2010, 06:17 PM
Nah, I can see people really embracing the light constructs, It's a fresh idea. No other hero does that.

Webhead2006
01-23-2010, 09:50 PM
i dont think the ring/its constructs is cheesy at all.

SuperFerret
01-23-2010, 09:58 PM
Second, you can't please everyone, so there will be people out there that may not love GL (especially true Ironman fans).

I'll never understand this mentality. There's very few things that are stupider.

RicardusAlpert
01-23-2010, 10:21 PM
I'm betting that general moviegoers will have a bad initial reaction to the constructs, no matter how cool they introduce it. BUT if they actually play along with it and the movie is actually cool, they'll actually grow fond of it. It also depends a lot on how the mood of the movie will be.

dnno1
01-24-2010, 07:38 AM
I'm betting that general moviegoers will have a bad initial reaction to the constructs, no matter how cool they introduce it. BUT if they actually play along with it and the movie is actually cool, they'll actually grow fond of it. It also depends a lot on how the mood of the movie will be.

Did I just read that this guy is betting that the general movie goers will have a bad reation to the constructs? Just for everyone's info. there should be enough data as fare as reation from films like "The Mask", "Fantastic Four", "Spiderman 3", "Tron", and "Aladdin" as far a croud reation goes to get a good idea if constructs will sell. Furthermore, I doubt, that the powers that be would have green-lit this project if they knew that audiences would have a bad reation to the effects.

Showtime
01-24-2010, 11:35 AM
You really never know how an audience will react until they get a chance to actually react. The famous "powers that be" never ever have greenlit a project where the special effects have been bad? Really...

dnno1
01-24-2010, 01:18 PM
You really never know how an audience will react until they get a chance to actually react. The famous "powers that be" never ever have greenlit a project where the special effects have been bad? Really...

Hey, you said that. I said I doubt that the would have green-lit the project if the knew that it would be bad.

RicardusAlpert
01-24-2010, 01:45 PM
I said they would have an "initial first reaction" that would probable fade away during the, with the right treatment and fitting in the general mood of the film. That' what I said, I didn't say it wouldn't work, that was predisposition from your part. I actually stand by it since it's a very reasonable thing that people have tepid or bad reactions to strange things they're not familiar with. Most of those not familiar with Tron but have seen the trailers believe it is simplistic, nonsensical and a complete waste of FX technology. What can one say to that? Just "they'll probably come around". And they'll come around by actually seeing the movie. See? Perfect sense.

flash13
01-24-2010, 03:28 PM
I'm worried it will perform badly and not get any sequels.

Judson Caspian
01-25-2010, 06:22 AM
So they're leaving the franchise in the hands of a guy who directed Vertical Limit. What can go wrong?

RicardusAlpert
01-25-2010, 11:43 AM
My biggest concerns are two:

1. Two many characters in one movie: Sinestro, Hector Hammond and Legion??? Carl & Carol Ferris, Thomas Kalmaku, Tomar-Re, Abin Sur, Kilowog and (I presume) Ganthet?? Aren't they afraid of burning out too quickly? If not, this being an origin movie for Hal and ALSO the presentation of the universe, I'm quite concerned about character treatment. This is going to have more characters than the first X-Men and I was not happy with some characters being relegated there.

2. Campbell is great with traditional action scenes, but will he know his way around all the cgi? In my ideal world, JJ Abras would helm this, but to be fair I like Campbell a lot since Casino Royale.

dnno1
01-25-2010, 11:50 AM
Ensemble casts are pretty safe as a opposed to a cast of maybe one or two lead characters. Ensembles offer different characters that fans can choose and is what made franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek successful in lasting as long as they have.

RicardusAlpert
01-25-2010, 12:02 PM
But Green Lantern is not an choral story, at least not at this moment. It's a story about Hal Jordan and the rest are supposed to be secondary.
Star Trek had dual protagonism. And with movies like Star Wars or X-Men (and even more with X2) there is room to discuss how many protagonists are there, but there's no argument with GL, it's Hal Jordan, maybe the Guardians of the Universe, Sinestro (being the main villain) and then the rest of the characters.

dnno1
01-25-2010, 12:19 PM
But Green Lantern is not an choral story, at least not at this moment. It's a story about Hal Jordan and the rest are supposed to be secondary.
Star Trek had dual protagonism. And with movies like Star Wars or X-Men (and even more with X2) there is room to discuss how many protagonists are there, but there's no argument with GL, it's Hal Jordan, maybe the Guardians of the Universe, Sinestro (being the main villain) and then the rest of the characters.

No, Green Lantern is not just about Hal Jordan. It is also about, the (Green Lantern) corps the universal peace keeping force (kind of like the Jedi knights or the United Federation of Planets). If it were just about Hal Jordan, it probably wouldn't be that good of a movie. Remember, Green Lantern is not a flagship character like Superman or Batman, so writing a story about a sole character may not sell well to an unfamiliar audience.

dnno1
01-25-2010, 12:30 PM
...2. Campbell is great with traditional action scenes, but will he know his way around all the cgi? In my ideal world, JJ Abras would helm this, but to be fair I like Campbell a lot since Casino Royale.

What I have seen is that Campbell has surrounded himself with a lot of people who have a strong background in CGI. Some of the folks he has on board (be they illustrators, art directors, costume designer, et. al.) have worked with the following projects:

Avatar
Beowulf
Benjamin Button
Lord of the Rings
Hulk
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man
Star Wars (AOTC)
Constantine
Watchmen
Star Trek (2009)
The Dark Knight
Speed Racer
Thor
Spiderman III
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
Men in Black II
Garfield
Godzilla
Monster House
Shark Tale
Shrek
The Polar Express
Chronicles of Narnia
Kung Fu Panda
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Transformers
Pirates of the Caribbean (AWE)
Serenity
The Matrix Reloaded
I Am Legend
Tron: Legacy

A lot if not all of these projects had some impressive CGI and there should be a lot of knowledge base to pull from there.

Octoberist
01-25-2010, 12:35 PM
you'll be shocked how much CGI and miniatures was in Casino Royale, all used to enhance scenes like the airport scene.

RicardusAlpert
01-25-2010, 12:55 PM
What I have seen is that Campbell has surrounded himself with a lot of people who have a strong background in CGI.

I'm quite relieved to hear that.

Mr. Earle
01-25-2010, 01:11 PM
No, Green Lantern is not just about Hal Jordan. It is also about, the (Green Lantern) corps the universal peace keeping force (kind of like the Jedi knights or the United Federation of Planets). If it were just about Hal Jordan, it probably wouldn't be that good of a movie. Remember, Green Lantern is not a flagship character like Superman or Batman, so writing a story about a sole character may not sell well to an unfamiliar audience.
I wish that was true but you know that Hal is always the protagonist. Later it was Kyle and now its Hal again. Yes it is a corps but have you read many stories about Kilowog? No, its always Hal and the corps.

dnno1
01-25-2010, 02:10 PM
I wish that was true but you know that Hal is always the protagonist. Later it was Kyle and now its Hal again. Yes it is a corps but have you read many stories about Kilowog? No, its always Hal and the corps.

Sure, Hal is the main character in the film, but he is supported by an ensemble, which was the case for a large portion of his bronze age run in the 1970's and 1980's. During that time frame, he was supported by characters like, Kilowog, Tomar-Re, John Stewart, Arisia, and others. Don't get me wrong, this is not a true ensemble cast, where each of the characters are equally as important, but it is a large sporting cast, where the members are at peer level to the main character.

RicardusAlpert
01-25-2010, 06:12 PM
They cannot be at the same level. Take a movie like Avatar... it runs for like three hours yet there is only one true protagonist. This GL is not a run or big storyline of the 70's-80's, it's an origin story for a movie of two hours tops. That's it. There's not enough screen time for everybody and it's gonna be felt in decreased quality in character treatment.

dnno1
01-26-2010, 08:11 AM
They cannot be at the same level. Take a movie like Avatar... it runs for like three hours yet there is only one true protagonist. This GL is not a run or big storyline of the 70's-80's, it's an origin story for a movie of two hours tops. That's it. There's not enough screen time for everybody and it's gonna be felt in decreased quality in character treatment.

But there will be a similar effect as a Star Wars or Star Trek film would have. The audience and fans will see diffenent characters and take a liking of one in particular. Boba Fett had a cameo in Episode IV and nearly became a cult hero. The same could happen to a character like Killowog or some other lantern.

RicardusAlpert
01-26-2010, 11:58 AM
Maybe (and hopefully) you're right.

solidsnake86
01-26-2010, 01:11 PM
The movie concentrates on hal, the other supporting GL's are more like extended cameos except for sinestro so you shouldn't worry about it trying to spread itself out too thin. At this point my concern is what they did change from the original draft in that I hope it was change for the better.

Webhead2006
01-27-2010, 03:22 AM
i do hope they make the constructs look very good and down well.

Dark Knight
01-28-2010, 08:07 PM
Well the alleged concept drawings look good.

I'm a little disappointed with Sony being hired for the mian VFX.....would have loved to have seen WETA, ILM or Digital Domain on the GL film instead. So that is a concern for me.

Hope Sony steps up their game for this one.

I'm also concerned on whether or not they will show this film on IMAX 3D. They better IMO.

Dark Knight
01-28-2010, 08:09 PM
They cannot be at the same level. Take a movie like Avatar... it runs for like three hours yet there is only one true protagonist. This GL is not a run or big storyline of the 70's-80's, it's an origin story for a movie of two hours tops. That's it. There's not enough screen time for everybody and it's gonna be felt in decreased quality in character treatment.




I think this GL film will run longer than 2 hours.

Probably around 2 hours and 15 minutes I would think.

dnno1
01-28-2010, 10:43 PM
Well the alleged concept drawings look good.

I'm a little disappointed with Sony being hired for the mian VFX.....would have loved to have seen WETA, ILM or Digital Domain on the GL film instead. So that is a concern for me.

Hope Sony steps up their game for this one.

I'm also concerned on whether or not they will show this film on IMAX 3D. They better IMO.

There is nothing to be disappointed about Sony Productins Imageworks (SPI). They are an Academy Award wining outfit that has a very good relationship with Warner Brothers and have been associated with pictures like "Spider-Man 2 & 3", "Speed Racer", "Watchmen", "Beowulf", "G-Force", and the upcoming film "The Smurfs" (of course there are more). They have an expertise in performance capture that makes them one of the leaders in that technique. The are also very good with producing 3D films.

Webhead2006
01-28-2010, 10:47 PM
well yea i am sure the film will probably be 2hr to 2hr 15mins range that is a nice good range. As for imageworks sure i said before not who i wanted. But they have done some good stuff. So i hope they are on ball and do the best work they can i dont want to see crap effects like i am legend of superman returns.

dnno1
01-28-2010, 10:57 PM
It all depends on how much money you want to spend as to the quality that you will get. If you are willing to spend $250+ million on the film, you could get "Avatar" quality, but if you are willing to spend $150 million, you will get "I am Legend", which still wasn't that bad and probably was made at the right price.

Webhead2006
01-28-2010, 10:59 PM
well even with only 150million i am sure it will be good we dont know how much work is going to be cgi over makeup/suits and all that. But i am sure wb will want to make this look good.

Octoberist
01-29-2010, 04:45 AM
There is nothing to be disappointed about Sony Productions Imageworks (SPI). They are an Academy Award wining outfit that has a very good relationship with Warner Brothers and have been associated with pictures like "Spider-Man 2 & 3", "Speed Racer", "Watchmen", "Beowulf", "G-Force", and the upcoming film "The Smurfs" (of course there are more). They have an expertise in performance capture that makes them one of the leaders in that technique. The are also very good with producing 3D films.

Sony Pictures Imageworks.

They're good and usually compeptant. I'm sure they'll do a good job. We're talking about an era after District 9 (low budget CGI that looks good) and Avatar (near photorealistic) that they can't screw it up. It was okay in the 2000s but not in this decade.

dark_b
01-29-2010, 05:35 AM
They cannot be at the same level. Take a movie like Avatar... it runs for like three hours yet there is only one true protagonist. This GL is not a run or big storyline of the 70's-80's, it's an origin story for a movie of two hours tops. That's it. There's not enough screen time for everybody and it's gonna be felt in decreased quality in character treatment.why are so many people saying almost 3 hours. wouldnt almost 3 hours be for 2.45,2:50,2:50,2:55?

from what i rememeber teh mvoie was with credits 2:40. so without credits somewhere around 2 hours and 30 minutes. how is this close to 3 hours?

thegameq
01-29-2010, 10:09 AM
In no particular order:

1. The constructs - this is going to require the audience to suspend a great deal of belief. I believe they are going to tone down the whole constructs aspect big time and just make the ring an extension of Hal, sort of like a see through liquid metal effect in green. If not, then they may just show the ring as a bendable beam of energy of some sort. I know alot of fans want to see them push the fanstasy envelope, but I don't see it happening with the first film in this series.

2. Make no mistake, WB wants GL to be their Iron Man. How much they borrow from IM remains to be seen. We all know Hollywood: monkey see, monkey do. If they do ape IM, hopefully it wil be well disguised and not to obvious.

3. I suspect Hal Jordan will be an amalgam of the various Lanterns that have gained popularity with fans. Not bad, but it may close the door on the appearance of other Lanterns like Kyle, Guy, etc.

As with other comic to film transitions, GL has enormous potential. But there seems to be an invisible barrier that is preventing alot of these films from being all they truly can be. Budget is the obvious culprit--and many times is the deciding factor in the films vision.

WB has a chance to really push the fantasy envelope big time with a character other than Supes. It remains to be seen if the budget or the GA allows them to.

Webhead2006
01-29-2010, 12:19 PM
1. Yea i agree i hope they make the whole ring/construct thing look good. i am sure its probably going to be energy beam like.
2. totally agree there hollywood loves to copy the same thing over and over.
3. I dont think they will merge different lanterns. There is no reasons why they would merge different gl traits. Hal has his own great traits to use. Plus i am sure if gl 1 does well we will probably get some of the other human gls in sequels.

I too hope if the film does well it will show dc that some of the other big gun characters could also do well too.

shiveringmelody
01-29-2010, 01:59 PM
My main concern is the special effect's and how well this film will perform. I want a Hal GL trilogy!

dark_b
01-29-2010, 03:02 PM
the effects will be decent . with so much money i just can nto see them making bad effects. of course a lot of fans will complain because complaining about CGI is ''in''.

SuperFerret
01-29-2010, 03:12 PM
How is complaining about CGI "in"?

Octoberist
01-29-2010, 04:03 PM
With Martin Campbell being the director of Green Lantern, is 'Edge of Darkness' an indicator of what to expect? If it's a miss than a hit, is it just a fluke on his part (Streamlining a complicated mini-series into a two hour movie), and we can expect another Casino Royale type film?

If the first draft of Green Lantern is an indicatar, we should be fine since every beat is easy to follow and allows Martin to have fun with the imagery. But what do you guys think?

Webhead2006
01-29-2010, 04:21 PM
well i heard good things so far for edge of darkness i hope it does well for box office for campbell and for mel for him to get back on track with acting after all those crazy stuff that happened to him. As for gl i am sure it will probably be good. As for the script since there has been many rewrites i hope campbell and the writers have fixed any issues with things and make the film a hit.

I SEE SPIDEY
01-29-2010, 06:41 PM
the effects will be decent . with so much money i just can nto see them making bad effects. of course a lot of fans will complain because complaining about CGI is ''in''.I actually understand people's nervousness about Sony Image works because they have a spotty record but you are correct too. People b**ch way too much about special effects.

Webhead2006
01-29-2010, 06:44 PM
so true spidey we all love to ***** about every little thing in these movies.

Crook
01-29-2010, 07:01 PM
the effects will be decent . with so much money i just can nto see them making bad effects. of course a lot of fans will complain because complaining about CGI is ''in''.
Money is nothing without talent and direction. Sony IW is definitely my biggest concern for this film so far (even moreso than Blake). The leaked concept art looks absolutely amazing, and I would've been confident the likes of WETA or ILM could have pulled them off to spectacular results. Sony...have such a spotty record it's ridiculous.

Project862006
01-29-2010, 07:07 PM
with Watchmen as there latest work to my recollection i don't see where the problem is the effects were great in that film

hame4479
01-29-2010, 07:34 PM
Sony imageworks were responsible for watchmen. I thought a drove of smaller fx companies worked on that film.

hame4479
01-29-2010, 07:38 PM
Well that actually clears up a few of my concerns, Their work on spider-man 2 in particular was great, i just couldn't remember anything that they have done in recent years. I still would of prefered weta though. As far as digital characters are concerned they continually set the bar.

I SEE SPIDEY
01-29-2010, 08:22 PM
Sony Image Works did Watchmen's effects?

Along with Spider-Man 2 thats another great job by them.

Aesop Rocks
01-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Has anyone seen the Sinestro and Guardian concept art? What a punch in the gut.

Octoberist
01-29-2010, 10:19 PM
because they're so good? Yes..very good.

Even if you don't like them, there's 1000s of concept art pieces with a movie like this; don't you worry.

Aesop Rocks
01-29-2010, 10:25 PM
No u!

Webhead2006
01-29-2010, 10:30 PM
yea we dont know when they were made if they were all totally official and if they are official how finale where they.

Dark Knight
01-30-2010, 12:55 AM
With Martin Campbell being the director of Green Lantern, is 'Edge of Darkness' an indicator of what to expect? If it's a miss than a hit, is it just a fluke on his part (Streamlining a complicated mini-series into a two hour movie), and we can expect another Casino Royale type film?

If the first draft of Green Lantern is an indicatar, we should be fine since every beat is easy to follow and allows Martin to have fun with the imagery. But what do you guys think?






Edge of Darkness looks good though IMO.

Good to see Gibson back doing a revenge type of R rated kick ass film again.

Dark Knight
01-30-2010, 01:02 AM
There is nothing to be disappointed about Sony Productins Imageworks (SPI). They are an Academy Award wining outfit that has a very good relationship with Warner Brothers and have been associated with pictures like "Spider-Man 2 & 3", "Speed Racer", "Watchmen", "Beowulf", "G-Force", and the upcoming film "The Smurfs" (of course there are more). They have an expertise in performance capture that makes them one of the leaders in that technique. The are also very good with producing 3D films.






Well lets see.

Spidey 2's effects were good......Spidey 3's effects not so much. Speed Racer? Ugh......Watchmen, good.......Beowulf....slighty above average, yet choppy.

I never saw G-Force.

Octoberist
01-30-2010, 03:18 AM
i guess people have an issue with Sony Imageworks with the fact they are competent as a VFX house, but they're not groundbreaking as Weta or ILM.

I'm not saying that they should be, but at the sametime, that's why companies like Double Negative and Framestore can get a pass because they're smaller; Imageworks is own by Sony so I guess the expectations are higher. Naturally.

My problem with them is that they're inconsistent.

Webhead2006
01-30-2010, 12:19 PM
yea thats my feeling with SPI too they have at times done good stuff like spider-man movies or watchmen. But then they end up with crappy work like i am legend/superman returns and others i dont know off hand. Though all we can do is hope they will knock it out of the park this time.

dnno1
01-30-2010, 07:56 PM
Well lets see.

Spidey 2's effects were good......Spidey 3's effects not so much. Speed Racer? Ugh......Watchmen, good.......Beowulf....slighty above average, yet choppy.

I never saw G-Force.

Are you out of your mind? Spiderman 3 received several nominations from various outfits for their special effects work on thef film. I don't even know if anyone could have done a better effect for the birth of the Sandman (which was a SfX produced by Sony Imageworks). I even question weather you even saw the movie with a remark like that

Webhead2006
01-30-2010, 10:51 PM
yea for me personally i thought the sfx was pretty solid all around on sm3.

Mr. Earle
01-30-2010, 11:11 PM
I saw a concept design of Sinestro and it got me worried. He had a mullet and a beard and he looked like Ming the Merciless. His suit looked like a green Carnage (you know, the spiderman villain). God i hope he doesnt look like that.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6838/1109883greenmov4super.jpg

Webhead2006
01-31-2010, 01:32 AM
yea we been talking about this and those other designs for a few days. though we dont know really when this concept image was made and if its final design or an earlier design and all that. plus i dont really see anything wrong with it.

dark_b
01-31-2010, 04:52 AM
Well lets see.

Spidey 2's effects were good......Spidey 3's effects not so much. Speed Racer? Ugh......Watchmen, good.......Beowulf....slighty above average, yet choppy.

I never saw G-Force.they were bad? ???????????? :huh:

Dark Knight
01-31-2010, 01:47 PM
they were bad? ???????????? :huh:






I just thought they were annoying.

The whole film gave me a headache.

dnno1
01-31-2010, 02:05 PM
How is complaining about CGI "in"?

Actually I have seen quite a few comments/criticisms about CGI, but I think it is out of ignorance. A lot of films made nowadays use some form of CGI and that rages from films like "Forrest Gump" to "Avatar". The quality of CGI not only is a lot better now, but it has always saved money in the way of production cost. If you tried to do the same effect with a live action stunt or demolition crew it would cost far more than it would using CGI.

SuperFerret
01-31-2010, 02:29 PM
Actually I have seen quite a few comments/criticisms about CGI, but I think it is out of ignorance. A lot of films made nowadays use some form of CGI and that rages from films like "Forrest Gump" to "Avatar". The quality of CGI not only is a lot better now, but it has always saved money in the way of production cost. If you tried to do the same effect with a live action stunt or demolition crew it would cost far more than it would using CGI.

Oh, well. I guess I should be counted among the ignorant complainers. CGI is nice and all, and there's not really much of a range between bad CGI and good CGI in most Hollywood movies put out now, but I still think that practical effects are far more believable and better than what CGI can do, and I hope things stay that way.

dnno1
01-31-2010, 06:14 PM
Oh, well. I guess I should be counted among the ignorant complainers. CGI is nice and all, and there's not really much of a range between bad CGI and good CGI in most Hollywood movies put out now, but I still think that practical effects are far more believable and better than what CGI can do, and I hope things stay that way.

Ok, here is a comparison: The following clip used a stunt double in the film "Twilight". In particular, pay close attention to the tree climbing scene:

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It is simiar to the effect that they used in 1977 with the Spider-Man TV series:

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Face it guy, they could have never pulled off the stunts that Spider-Man Performs credibly without using CGI. Remember this:

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That is why it took almost 30 years to get him on the big screen. Furthermore, the CGI enhanced films make the live action stunts look like a joke.

fq2000
02-01-2010, 12:08 AM
Personally I am concern about the motion picture soundtrack, I really hope they DO NOT USE RAP music, and not because I have something against it, its just I imagine something diferent for the movie

Crook
02-01-2010, 12:11 AM
Why in the world would you assume rap music, as opposed to any other genre?

Dark Knight
02-01-2010, 12:37 AM
yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they do rock album or go with just musical score.

Webhead2006
02-01-2010, 02:28 AM
yea i doubt rap would be used for green lantern it will probably be a rock album with a song or two played on a radio or during a scene then of course muscial scores. Or it could just be all musical scores for the film and then a rock album for the end credits.

JLU51306
02-01-2010, 07:31 AM
My main concern, is the story. Although alot of comic fans understand that Sinestro is a GL in the origin story, most general audiences know that GL's villain is Sinestro, and so they'll expect him as the villain, and if he isn't by the end of the movie, they will see it as a dissappointment, and it will be given bad reviews by the general audiences, thus ruining the chance of sequels to explain Sinestro's transformation from GL to Sinestro Corps. Comic book fans that know the origin will be happy, but the general audience may not.

dnno1
02-01-2010, 07:45 AM
My main concern, is the story. Although alot of comic fans understand that Sinestro is a GL in the origin story, most general audiences know that GL's villain is Sinestro, and so they'll expect him as the villain, and if he isn't by the end of the movie, they will see it as a dissappointment, and it will be given bad reviews by the general audiences, thus ruining the chance of sequels to explain Sinestro's transformation from GL to Sinestro Corps. Comic book fans that know the origin will be happy, but the general audience may not.

Now wait a minute. In "Star Wars: Episode I" most fans knew that Anakin Skywalker would be Darth Vader. Of course it was obvious that a little kid couldn become a villian so soon, but the fact that it didn't happen in the first movie is proof that you can introduce a villian as a innocent and not have hims go rogue by the end of one film. It's not unrealistic.

JLU51306
02-01-2010, 07:53 AM
Now wait a minute. In "Star Wars: Episode I" most fans knew that Anakin Skywalker would be Darth Vader. Of course it was obvious that a little kid couldn become a villian so soon, but the fact that it didn't happen in the first movie is proof that you can introduce a villian as a innocent and not have hims go rogue by the end of one film. It's not unrealistic.

Yeah, but thats Star Wars. It had already a very large fan base, and general like-ability from the trilogy of the 70's. And it's not like if the episode I sucked, they were going to stop there. With GL, I think there's so much riding on it being successful, that if it isn't, it is ruined for any possible sequels. Don't get me wrong, I love GL, and I am highly excited for this movie, I'm just concerned what the general public (aka the deciding factor in a sequel) will think about it.

dnno1
02-01-2010, 07:59 AM
Yeah, but thats Star Wars. It had already a very large fan base, and general like-ability from the trilogy of the 70's. And it's not like if the episode I sucked, they were going to stop there. With GL, I think there's so much riding on it being successful, that if it isn't, it is ruined for any possible sequels. Don't get me wrong, I love GL, and I am highly excited for this movie, I'm just concerned what the general public (aka the deciding factor in a sequel) will think about it.

I think you said that "most general audiences know that GL's villain is Sinestro" and that they would expect him as the villian. The fact that SWEP1 happened where a potential villian was introduced in a film should make it palatable that this could happen in other films (not necessarily Star Wars).

JLU51306
02-01-2010, 08:20 AM
I think you said that "most general audiences know that GL's villain is Sinestro" and that they would expect him as the villian. The fact that SWEP1 happened where a potential villian was introduced in a film should make it palatable that this could happen in other films (not necessarily Star Wars).


I see what your talking about, but don't forget that Episode I was the lowest rated Star Wars film in the series, and it received mixed reviews, probably because it was more an origin, that started from too early of a perspective. Thats just my opinion though. I just think it will get a similar mass reaction as Episode I got, because of the early origin perspective, except GL doesn't have someone like George Lucas backing it up for a sequel if it fails.

dnno1
02-01-2010, 08:38 AM
I see what your talking about, but don't forget that Episode I was the lowest rated Star Wars film in the series, and it received mixed reviews, probably because it was more an origin, that started from too early of a perspective. Thats just my opinion though. I just think it will get a similar mass reaction as Episode I got, because of the early origin perspective, except GL doesn't have someone like George Lucas backing it up for a sequel if it fails.

I thought that The Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones were the best of the series myself, but even with that, I don't think that the rating of The Phantom Mennace had anything to do with the fact that a potental villian was introduced as an innocent child and not becoming a villian by the end of the film.

fq2000
02-01-2010, 02:54 PM
I think Campbell is a great director and Casino Royale is a great movie. I trust him completely!!!!!!!

fq2000
02-01-2010, 03:09 PM
I dont want rap music for this movie, I really would like some power metal or pop rock for this, but if you search in youtube just with this tag green lantern, rap you will see what I am talking about. For me a MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK is very important, almost as important as the movie itself, and artistic decisions would determine the movie success, and the best example for me is YOU KNOW MY NAME from Casino Royale, another movie directed by Campbell

fq2000
02-01-2010, 03:22 PM
About JLU51306 s concern, what do you think about this? in first matrix movie, you feel identified with Morpheus character as a mentor, as a friend, a brother in arms, now HOW WOULD YOU HAVE FELT, IF MORPHEUS instead of what hes face (CYPHER, Joe Pantoliano s character) had betrayed NEO, that would really breake your heart, and thats whats going to happen in this saga, and if done correctly is going to be a great moment in film, almost as good as the famous "Luke, I am your father"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dnno1
02-01-2010, 03:26 PM
I dont want rap music for this movie, I really would like some power metal or pop rock for this, but if you search in youtube just with this tag green lantern, rap you will see what I am talking about. For me a MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK is very important, almost as important as the movie itself, and artistic decisions would determine the movie success, and the best example for me is YOU KNOW MY NAME from Casino Royale, another movie directed by Campbell

Shouldn't this message be in the Green Lantern Score thread?

Webhead2006
02-01-2010, 05:47 PM
yea i am sure the story will be a good setup on when sinestro turns on the corps/hal to set him up as ultimate baddie and all that.

GreenKToo
02-01-2010, 07:43 PM
Just make a good film and the rest will take care of it's self.

Webhead2006
02-01-2010, 10:45 PM
yup man