The Official Marc Webb Thread

[Maze]

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/01/marc_webb_new_director_of_spid.html

Thanks to slash film

Edit: it's official

http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8998

The plan for the movie is to be in the $80 million range and feature a cast of relative unknowns


And the story will be pared down to center on a high school kid who is dealing with the knowledge that his uncle died even though the teen had the power to stop it.

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade's "Ultimate Spider-Man" comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/01/marc-webb-to-direct-spiderman.html

[SpeterMan3]

Hmm.

[Blackman]

nice :up:

[JustABill]

Focus more on the private life of Peter Parker? Ugh. That's what we just got with Raimi's three films a Peter Parker trilogy.

[TheComicbookKid]

Getting a bit ahead of themselves aren't they?One first, then the second.

[JustABill]

Eh. They are pretty much safe in assuming this will not flop. It has the words Spider-Man in the title. Not one person in the GA cares Raimi and Maguire or gone. They pay to see Spider-Man.

[NinjaCarm]

Focus more of the social life of Peter Parker? Uh, please no. If they have a director like him who can convey the social life of Peter Parker, then sure, but not MORE focus.

Oh boy.

[Chewy]

Getting a bit ahead of themselves aren't they?One first, then the second.
It's no different than signing an actor to a three film deal, which happens with basically any big budget film these days

[JustABill]

Focus more of the social life of Peter Parker? Uh, please no. If they have a director like him who can convey the social life of Peter Parker, then sure, but not MORE focus.

Oh boy.
Exactly, Raimi's films had the problem of focusing too much on the Peter Parker side of things. I was hoping this would be a chance to get a nice even fold of both the Peter and Spider-Man side of things.

[Gamma Goliath]

sounds like this will have too little entertaining action and story........

[Project862006]

i hope they know what they are doing but planning a trilogy is dumb hell Prince of Persia could be a franchise but they at least are smart enough to know not to plan a trilogy.

[craigdbfan]

Sigh.

He's only made one movie which isn't even action driven. Raimi had the ability to develop characters and give us fantastic set pieces. He also had an extensive cache of films in his background.

Not happy about Webb getting the gig. Spider-Man is far to big for someone thats only made one film and music videos.

This now has the potential into turning into an X-Men Origins: Wolverine type movie.

[Spidey_62]

Huh, looks like signs keep pointing towards Webb being the director.

[Maze]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8998

It's official!

[Maze]

Double post.

[JustABill]

Sigh.

He's only made one movie which isn't even action driven. Raimi had the ability to develop characters and give us fantastic set pieces. He also had an extensive cache of films in his background.

Not happy about Webb getting the gig. Spider-Man is far to big for someone thats only made one film and music videos.

This now has the potential into turning into an X-Men Origins: Wolverine type movie.
Every director has to start somewhere when it comes to action films.

I'm willing to throw my support behind Webb as 500 Days of Summer was good.

[Dark Helmet]

Next up

Jacob will be Spider-Man

Edward will be Eddie Brock or heck BOTH if Sony gets their way

& Kristen Stewart will be Mary Jane Watson

Think pretty much anyone in the Twilight movies will be in this new Trilogy

[JustABill]

Next up

Jacob will be Spider-Man

Edward will be Eddie Brock

& Kristen Stewart will be Mary Jane Watson

Think pretty much anyone in the Twilight movies will be in this new Trilogy
:rolleyes:

[night0205]

500 Days of Summer was a great film guys. Maybe the funniest all year, and completely unique to the Romantic Comedy Genre. I'm behind this film, for now...

[JP]

Solid choice. :up:

[Spider-ManHero12]

*sigh* I miss Sam Raimi.

[Solidus]

Webb will do good I think. I think some are taking some of the wording a little too personal. I think we should wait until we jump to conclusions on how much focus will be on what.

[Spidey_62]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8998

It's official!
I called it.:woot:

[Crook]

Every director has to start somewhere when it comes to action films.

I'm willing to throw my support behind Webb as 500 Days of Summer was good.
Agreed. I think Webb realizes the spectacle that's to be expected from this franchise. While lacking the experience, we never know what he can come up with. Peter Jackson wasn't exactly a set-piece puppeteer, before tackling LOTR. Look how that turned out.

Oh, and the guy knows how to develop realistic and engaging characters. Particularly, youth-oriented. I can't stress enough how essential that is, and how lucky we are that Webb is handling that part.

[Project862006]

I agree with you guys got to start somewhere but i was not thinking a trilogy of a huge epic adventure franchise like SM.After Ang Le and Gavin Hood i become weary of these indie directors stepping up to do superhero films.

[Sentinel X]

Okay...to me this is bad news. Is this the best they could do...? So he directed 500 days, a small budget indie film. What makes him qualified to helm a 150+ million budget blockbuster? He has no action film in his record. This is just scary. Its okay to take a risk so new directors can show their talent but NOT when the stakes are this high.

[Venom 1988]

Next up

Jacob will be Spider-Man

Edward will be Eddie Brock or heck BOTH if Sony gets their way

& Kristen Stewart will be Mary Jane Watson

Think pretty much anyone in the Twilight movies will be in this new Trilogy

Aw aren't you so cute and witty

[Spider-Vader]

Next up

Jacob will be Spider-Man

Edward will be Eddie Brock or heck BOTH if Sony gets their way

& Kristen Stewart will be Mary Jane Watson

Think pretty much anyone in the Twilight movies will be in this new Trilogy

Yeah, Sony will aim a movie who's predecessors have largely BOY audiences towards teenage girls. :doh:

[night0205]

The reality is, the problem isn't the focus on Peter Parker for Sam Raimi, it's that wasn't the Peter Parker from the comics! Hopefully inspiration will come from the Spectacular Spider-man animated series, because that seemed like the Peter Parker we want.

[Dark Helmet]

Every director has to start somewhere when it comes to action films

No noob action director should start with a franchise as big as Spider-man & this guy it seems is not going to get a say on who will be Peter Parker.

[Venom 1988]

*sigh* I miss Sam Raimi.

Jesus, of course you can't find anything positive about this.

[JustABill]

Marc Webb is a great choice, guys, trust me. We are in good hands. Even the best action directors had to start somewhere. Give him a chance.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Why are people siding with SOny so much? I wouldn't be surrpised if they tried to make this series like a Twilight type of franchise. They want money.

[Gabe99]

ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN

From /film:
Marc Webb To Direct New Spider-Man Trilogy!? (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/)

From Risky Business:

Marc Webb taking on ‘Spider-Man’ reboot (http://riskybusiness.blogs.thr.com/2010/01/spider-man-reboot-gets-director-marc-webb-of-500-days-of-summer.html)


Marc Webb has finalized a deal to helm the new “Spider-Man” movie for Columbia.

The studio last week scrapped the fourth installment of the web-slinging hero under director Sam Raimi and star Tobey Maguire and decided to reboot and scale down the franchise.

While unlikely names such as James Cameron and David Fincher were floated (when was the last time those made a scaled-down movie?), Webb quietly rose to the top of the list of candidates.

Webb became a sought-after director with “(500) Days of Summer,” his comedic romancer for Fox Searchlight starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Zooey Deschanel, earning him praise for the realistic way he portrayed a modern relationship.

Webb set up a series of projects since “Summer,” among them “Age of Rage” at Searchlight. It was his Fox projects that were major hurdles in the deal, as his next movie was expected to be for that company. Fox had to allow him to bow out of his commitment before a deal could be made with Columbia.

Webb, who has options on two sequels, will now tackle a Jamie Vanderbilt script that sees a “Spider-Man” movie that will look and feel very different from the big movies that went before it.

The plan for the movie is to be in the $80 million range and feature a cast of relative unknowns (so you can quash those Rob Pattinson or Gordon-Levitt rumors at this point). And the story will be pared down to center on a high school kid who is dealing with the knowledge that his uncle died even though the teen had the power to stop it.

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade’s “Ultimate Spider-Man” comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.

Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin are producing the new movie, which will begin production this year.

[BrollySupersj]

Next up

Jacob will be Spider-Man

Edward will be Eddie Brock or heck BOTH if Sony gets their way

& Kristen Stewart will be Mary Jane Watson

Think pretty much anyone in the Twilight movies will be in this new Trilogy

They can do what they please with the Spider-Man reboot, EXCEPT THAT.:o


EDIT: Ultimate Spider-Man eh....hm I wouldn't mind that. I read the first hundred issues and enjoyed them quite a bit.

Well...so far so good I suppose. No red flags as of yet.

[craigdbfan]

Agreed. I think Webb realizes the spectacle that's to be expected from this franchise. While lacking the experience, we never know what he can come up with. Peter Jackson wasn't exactly a set-piece puppeteer, before tackling LOTR. Look how that turned out.

Oh, and the guy knows how to develop realistic and engaging characters. Particularly, youth-oriented. I can't stress enough how essential that is, and how lucky we are that Webb is handling that part.

The man was awesome already with practical effects. I've noticed that most directors (Spielberg, Raimi, Jackson, Lucas, Cameron) that have experience in that field can usually transition into CGI heavy films quite easily.

[Project862006]

Marc Webb is a great choice, guys, trust me. We are in good hands. Even the best action directors had to start somewhere. Give him a chance.

i gave Gavin Hood an Oscar winner a chance and that bit me in the ass :cmad:

[DyeLorean]

Marc Webb will direct the new Spider Man movie?


Oh that's clever!

XD

[Nathan]

I try not to get too worried. Ok, so they want to focus on Peter Parker, we already got that with Raimi's movies. But maybe he'll be able to focus on Peter's life, while having him be Spider-Man.

Like having him talk with Aunt May on the phone, saying that he won't be late, while fighting some super villain. You get your Spidey action, but at the same time focus on the fact that he's still a teen that has to follow certain rules.

That is just one possibility. The other possibilty could be that we get even less to see of Spider-Man. We'll simply have to wait and see how this all plays out.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Jesus, of course you can't find anything positive about this. And of course YOU can never say anything positive to say about me. No matter how kind I am.

[Crook]

Okay...to me this is bad news. Is this the best they could do...? So he directed 500 days, a small budget indie film. What makes him qualified to helm a 150+ million budget blockbuster? He has no action film in his record. This is just scary. Its okay to take a risk so new directors can show their talent but NOT when the stakes are this high.
...so how'd that Nolan guy do, again? :o

Why are people siding with SOny so much? I wouldn't be surrpised if they tried to make this series like a Twilight type of franchise. They want money.
Why are you such a blatantly negative-nancy? Webb's inexperience is to be taken into account and with hesitance, but the one film he has done, was damn good. Your insinuations are so completely baseless it's evident you're just looking for things to b***h about because your creative team is no longer on-board.

[night0205]

The reality is that Tobey MaGuire is still not what I image when I think of Peter Parker! And he's had 3 huge movies on film! Something new had to start, it's inevitable. I'm sorry, but you guys are being way to dramatic about this. Just try and enjoy the ride. Even after Spider-man 3, you guys are still whining about Raimi. The guy is gone, and that's not changing, so if you are true Spider-man fans, then look forward to what will come and then when it's released, then you can whine about it.

[Boom]

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade’s “Ultimate Spider-Man” comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.
Oh my God :o.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Why are you such a blatantly negative-nancy? Webb's inexperience is to be taken into account and with hesitance, but the one film he has done, was damn good. Your insinuations are so completely baseless it's evident you're just looking for things to b***h about because your creative team is no longer on-board. The same can be said about the people who bash Raimi's films, and just movies in general. They'll bash everything. I haven't seen 500 Days of Summer, so I really can't say whether he's a great choice or not.

[Crook]

The same can be said about the people who bash Raimi's films, and just movies in general. They'll bash everything. I haven't seen 500 Days of Summer, so I really can't say whether he's a great choice or not.
What thread are you in?? You're proving my point at looking for things to just complain about. This is about Webb, not Raimi.

[BrollySupersj]

Marc Webb will direct the new Spider Man movie?


Oh that's clever!

XD


That's like an ice cream man named "Cone"!:awesome:

[FilmNerdJamie]

I feel like Raimi has already fished this lake dry with his three films especially Spider-Man 2. Peter is ****ing up his personal life (i.e. work, school, the opposite sex) specifically because he’s too business saving people as Spidey. I'm all for it focusing on his personal life and all (That was what made the 60s era comics so damn popular to begin with) but this feels redundant.

Also Webb is too fresh-faced into his career as a feature-film director to commit to such an undertaking as this. Even with Raimi took over the franchise ten years ago, he had some experience. Ditto to the likes of Christopher Nolan before Batman and Bryan Singer before X-Men. That said, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Also, I hear that this may be based off of the ultimate Spider-Man comics. I haven't read Ultimate Spider-Man since 2005, and to be honest, I'm not a big fan of it. If I see Hulk GOblin, I'll die.

[Dark_Lord]

Why are people siding with SOny so much? I wouldn't be surrpised if they tried to make this series like a Twilight type of franchise. They want money.

I don't think they'd try to make the series like a Twilight type of franchise. Each Spider-Man movie made more money (both domestic and international) than the Twilight movies. A lot more. I don't see why they'd want to do that and just because Parker will be in high school, doesn't mean they will.

I'd ask you to wait and see what happens (we need more info) before you start complaining, but I know that's not gonna happen.

[Mrpaul]

Hope this works

[night0205]

The same can be said about the people who bash Raimi's films, and just movies in general. They'll bash everything. I haven't seen 500 Days of Summer, so I really can't say whether he's a great choice or not.

I haven't bashed Spider-man 1 or 2 because they are well made movies. This was going to happen, Tobey MaGuire is old. Sam Raimi failed last time, and yes I don't really care about the excuses of the studio making him doing stuff. It was still his responsibility, and he failed. And I respect him for leaving, you should too.

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'd ask you to wait and see what happens (we need more info) before you start complaining, but I know that's not gonna happen. I'll wait and see, but just don't think I'll be on this with open arms.

[Blackman]

Okay...to me this is bad news. Is this the best they could do...? So he directed 500 days, a small budget indie film. What makes him qualified to helm a 150+ million budget blockbuster? He has no action film in his record. This is just scary. Its okay to take a risk so new directors can show their talent but NOT when the stakes are this high.
Raimi directed the Evil Dead films. Which while good were low budget, same thing with Nolan with Batman, or even Faverau and Iron Man...especially Faverau with Iron Man

[Nathan]

If I see Hulk GOblin, I'll die.

That would probably the part where I'd say I'm officialy out. The only way I'd be able to tolerate it at all, is if he transforms into the classic Goblin we know, but still uses gear and tech. None of that super leaping and throwing fireballs.

[Mrpaul]

Wow already. They really are moving

[Solidus]

The same can be said about the people who bash Raimi's films, and just movies in general. They'll bash everything. I haven't seen 500 Days of Summer, so I really can't say whether he's a great choice or not.

You gotta let that go. Not everyone that is excited for this news hates Raimi's films. (well Spidey 3 was horrible) But I love the first two films, and I loved what Sam gave us. So did a lot of these people. Some did not but don't take it personally, you are because your not even giving this guy a chance. People did the same when Sam was first announced. People always find something. Hey at least we did not get McG, or Michael Bay doing this.

Now the rest of this is not just towards you.

500 Days of Summer was an excellent film. And I like how they are going smaller key, and not getting huge actors again. Because that costs usually half of the budget anymore. You can make great films (See District 9) for lower budgets. To me that actually will give Webb maybe some more freedom since not a lot of money will be riding on it in terms of budget.

People also freaking out about SFX. You do realize that most of the time now, they have so many SFX advisers and stuff like that, that you don't need some one who is 100% tech savy. And people forget that just because a person has not done SFX does not mean they don't know how, usually when one learns about film.....they learn about all aspects of it.

So to me I'm not going to be dumb, this may or may not be a good movie. But to me I'm always the optimistic one. And from what I've heard, I love the director, I like the writers work, I think this could be a great new foray into Peter's world.

[Blackman]

Why are people siding with SOny so much? I wouldn't be surrpised if they tried to make this series like a Twilight type of franchise. They want money.
oh please.
I have to say this. Ive noticed alot of members coming and saying "Uh, I dont like the reboot" but they move on joining the castiing, villain, etc. discussions. But all I see you do is be melodramatic and act like Sony is Satan.

Twilight Spidey...why? Because Parker is in HS? It's not like Spiderman was ever in high school in the comics or different TV series

And would you rather have someone take what Raimi built and direct it their own way like Schumachaer (sp.) or Ratner.

I understand some dont like reboot and yes it would have been cool to see Raimi back, but there are alot worse things that could happen

[Dark_Lord]

I'll wait and see, but just don't think I'll be on this with open arms.

I'm not saying you should be excited we're not getting another Raimi Spider-Man movie, because I know you liked those (as did I, although I didn't really like 3) and you don't have to get excited about a reboot. I'm just saying that you should be happy we're getting another Spider-Man movie.

Since things didn't work out with Sony and Raimi, it's nice to see that we're still getting a Spider-Man movie, even if it's not Spider-Man 4. Since 4 would be the last for Raimi and the cast and since they'd reboot after it, it's better, imo, that they're doing it now.

Anyway...This could suck, but it could also be awesome. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm excited, but I'm also kinda scared.

[Crook]

Raimi directed the Evil Dead films. Which while good were low budget, same thing with Nolan with Batman, or even Faverau and Iron Man...especially Faverau with Iron Man
I think that's a great example. The biggest thing Favreau had going for him was the passion he had for the character. That was practically it.

[JustABill]

Bryan Singer, Sam Raimi, Christopher Nolan, Jon Faverau were all indie directors before getting their major franchises. They all gave us great films (minus Raimi's Spidey 3).

[Solidus]

Raimi directed the Evil Dead films. Which while good were low budget, same thing with Nolan with Batman, or even Faverau and Iron Man...especially Faverau with Iron Man

Good call.

I did not think of this. He really had no SFX experience or big films like that. And he did great with Iron Man. That and all these bigger movies have SFX guru's on set all the time.

[Dark Helmet]

That would probably the part where I'd say I'm officialy out. The only way I'd be able to tolerate it at all, is if he transforms into the classic Goblin we know, but still uses gear and tech. None of that super leaping and throwing fireballs.

I am expecting a cast that only Twlight Fans & teens that watch the CW drama shows will like because Sony probably knows the die hards wont be behind them

[Raiden]

Never seen Webb's 500 Days of Summer, but I'm willing to give him some benefit of the doubt. However, if this movie is indeed on track to be released in 2012, Webb will need to deliver an exceptional movie because Raimi's Spider-man trilogy is still fresh on everyone's mind, and SM3 despite its disappointments still made alot of money. The chips are stacked against him from the get-go and I hope he will make a movie that defy the expectations.

[Excelsior.]

Okay...to me this is bad news. Is this the best they could do...? So he directed 500 days, a small budget indie film. What makes him qualified to helm a 150+ million budget blockbuster? He has no action film in his record. This is just scary. Its okay to take a risk so new directors can show their talent but NOT when the stakes are this high.

Memento had a smaller budget than Summer.

[craigdbfan]

Raimi directed the Evil Dead films. Which while good were low budget, same thing with Nolan with Batman, or even Faverau and Iron Man...especially Faverau with Iron Man


People also freaking out about SFX. You do realize that most of the time now, they have so many SFX advisers and stuff like that, that you don't need some one who is 100% tech savy. And people forget that just because a person has not done SFX does not mean they don't know how, usually when one learns about film.....they learn about all aspects of it.

So to me I'm not going to be dumb, this may or may not be a good movie. But to me I'm always the optimistic one. And from what I've heard, I love the director, I like the writers work, I think this could be a great new foray into Peter's world.

I think that's a great example. The biggest thing Favreau had going for him was the passion he had for the character. That was practically it.

Bryan Singer, Sam Raimi, Christopher Nolan, Jon Faverau were all indie directors before getting their major franchises. They all gave us great films (minus Raimi's Spidey 3).

Maybe, maybe not.

Faverau and Raimi while making smaller budget films before their respective SH films displayed the ability to use practical effects/CGI.

Not saying Webb won't but so many of the directors being brought up had an extensive background with practical effects especially Raimi.

[Nathan]

I am expecting a cast that only Twlight Fans & teens that watch the CW drama shows will like because Sony probably knows the die hards wont be behind them

*sigh* Enough of the Twilight talk. Can't that bandwagon derail already?

[Blackman]

I'm just surprised how many people are acting as immature as the ppl about this whole reboot thing

[Nathan]

*double post*

[Blackman]

I'm just surprised how many people are acting as immature as the ppl about this whole reboot thing

[Spider-ManHero12]

Since things didn't work out with Sony and Raimi, it's nice to see that we're still getting a Spider-Man movie, even if it's not Spider-Man 4. Since 4 would be the last for Raimi and the cast and since they'd reboot after it, it's better, imo, that they're doing it now. You see, that's the thing. Me, and lots of other Raimi fans knew we were getting a reboot...afer 4 that is. Well, most likely. We wanted another go around, but we didn't get it. That's one of the things that pisses us Raimi fans off. Were a few months before filming. My excitement level was through the roof. Heck, I/us Raimi fans waited years for S-M4, and what happens? It gets cancelled. People just can't understand. I mean, for gods sake, we're not as dumb as some of you guys (you know who you are) think.

[BrollySupersj]

I'm just surprised how many people are acting as immature as the ppl about this whole reboot thing

I thought I'd be one of the Raimi fans having a moo cow over all this news. But surprisingly, I'm not...and I enjoyed the past 3 movies a lot. I have high hopes for the reboot, and look forward to what's coming.

[Project862006]

Good call.

I did not think of this. He really had no SFX experience or big films like that. And he did great with Iron Man. That and all these bigger movies have SFX guru's on set all the time.

umm Forget about Zathura

http://www.sadibey.com/dosyalar/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi_Afis.jpg

[Showtime]

He's the type of director who the studio needed at this time. A director that will work with the studio, accept change and apply it. He is more of a studio guy.

[Blackman]

I thought I'd be one of the Raimi fans having a moo cow over all this news. But surprisingly, I'm not...and I enjoyed the past 3 movies a lot. I have high hopes for the reboot, and look forward to what's coming.
This is similar with me. I enjoyed the first 2. DIdnt like the third, but was looking forward to see Raimi try and redeem himself with 4, but I accept the fact that hes not and am moving on
umm Forget about Zathura

http://www.sadibey.com/dosyalar/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi_Afis.jpg
Holy crap I didnt even know he directed that. I liked that movie

He's the type of director who the studio needed at this time. A director that will work with the studio, accept change and apply it. He is more of a studio guy.
How is he more of a studio guy when hes done one film and it was indie

[Dark_Lord]

You see, that's the thing. Me, and lots of other Raimi fans knew we were getting a reboot...afer 4 that is. Well, most likely. We wanted another go around, but we didn't get it. That's one of the things that pisses us Raimi fans off. Were a few months before filming. My excitement level was through the roof. Heck, I/us Raimi fans waited years for S-M4, and what happens? It gets cancelled. People just can't understand. I mean, for gods sake, we're not as dumb as some of you guys (you know who you are) think.

But would you really want another Spider-Man 3? I know you liked 3, but I mean another movie where Raimi would have been forced to use characters that he didn't want to use. Because that's where things were going and if that was the Spider-Man 4 we were going to get, then I'm gad Raimi left (or whatever happened) and we didn't get it.

Anyway...It's a little of topic, so I'll just leave it at that.

[Solidus]

You see, that's the thing. Me, and lots of other Raimi fans knew we were getting a reboot...afer 4 that is. Well, most likely. We wanted another go around, but we didn't get it. That's one of the things that pisses us Raimi fans off. Were a few months before filming. My excitement level was through the roof. Heck, I/us Raimi fans waited years for S-M4, and what happens? It gets cancelled. People just can't understand. I mean, for gods sake, we're not as dumb as some of you guys (you know who you are) think.


Then the question remains, what side is stronger in you? Are you more of just a Raimi fan? Or a Spider-man fan? I understand Sam made two excellent films, and I watch them plenty. But I *not a huge one* but am a fan of Spidey, and to me giving it to another talented director, to give his take on it is not something that one should take personal. Sam made a trilogy that really finished an arc. And now I guess some one else will do it.

Just like Nolan with Batman, after B3, I want him done with Batman, Though I love it so, I'd rather see another take on Batman, not necessarily his origins, but the thing about Comic Films that are so great there are so many source materials from the comics there are many ways to show the character. And to me that is the power of comic books.

Raimi was amazing. But now its some one else. And Spidey is awesome, so I hope to see a good Spidey film.

[JustABill]

He's the type of director who the studio needed at this time. A director that will work with the studio, accept change and apply it. He is more of a studio guy.
Oh boy. I was waiting for this post. I just KNEW it would happen. You can absolutely not prove that.

[Maze]

The plan for the movie is to be in the $80 million range and feature a cast of relative unknowns



And the story will be pared down to center on a high school kid who is dealing with the knowledge that his uncle died even though the teen had the power to stop it.

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade's "Ultimate Spider-Man" comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/01/marc-webb-to-direct-spiderman.html

[night0205]

lol anything i say is proof!!!

[Solidus]

umm Forget about Zathura

http://www.sadibey.com/dosyalar/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi/Zathura_Bir_Uzay_Macerasi_Afis.jpg

Did not know that. But I remember it had great effects yes? So what SFX did he do before hand? This shows that a man with little SFX can make a good SFX movie.

[Spider-ManHero12]

Then the question remains, what side is stronger in you? Are you more of just a Raimi fan? Or a Spider-man fan? I understand Sam made two excellent films, and I watch them plenty. But I *not a huge one* but am a fan of Spidey, and to me giving it to another talented director, to give his take on it is not something that one should take personal. Sam made a trilogy that really finished an arc. And now I guess some one else will do it. I'm a huge Spider-Man fan in general. Thing is, the films meant ALOOOT to me, and others. The reboot wasn't needed at this time. Not when we had a 4th one coming. Is there anything against loving Raimi's franchise, while being a huge Spider-Man fan overall? Because it sure sems that way in the minds of others.

[Blackman]

rather that they went with Spectacular Spiderman instead of Ultimate


that probaly means that they'll do Ultimate Gwen :down


At least we have a good director

[Project862006]

Oh boy. I was waiting for this post. I just KNEW it would happen. You can absolutely not prove that.

You are taking it the wrong way he is not saying he is Sony's ***** and puppet he is just saying he is perfect for what Sony wants.A guy who will follow orders and wont complain about what he wants because Sony is giving him the chance to sky rocket in Hollywood and with 1 film he has no place to complain.Not to mention he is cheap and wont ask for much money unlike Raimi and tobey who took alot of the budget up it is safer on the money and creative side of things.

[Showtime]

How is he more of a studio guy when hes done one film and it was indie

More willing to work with the studio and not have the sway that somebody like Raimi, Cameron, Singer, or another like director would. Why would the number of films he has done matter?

Oh boy. I was waiting for this post. I just KNEW it would happen. You can absolutely not prove that.

You think Raimi would work with an $80 million budget and a cast of nobodys? Singer? Cameron? Nope.

What do I have to prove?

[Crook]

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/01/marc-webb-to-direct-spiderman.html
WHOA. 80 million??? Ok, that better not be true. I'm all for having a more grounded approach, but wtf is this?

[Solidus]

I'm a huge Spider-Man fan in general. Thing is, the films meant ALOOOT to me, and others. The reboot wasn't needed at this time. Not when we had a 4th one coming. Is there anything against loving Raimi's franchise, while being a huge Spider-Man fan overall? Because it sure sems that way in the minds of others.

There is nothing wrong what so ever with it. I loved Raimi's stuff. But it seems your against this film. So is there anything wrong with Loving Spider-Man, Loving Raimi's Spider-man, and loving the idea of some one new doing it too?

And now the rest is not directed at you.

But people saying that they needed a studio "yes man" I heard these same arguments with Nolan for Begins. It can happen with less known directors but this is one of those things we can't predict. I mean when Sam was on top of the world, the studio sure controlled him for SM3.

To me it gives me hope they got some one with one very critically accliamed movie, and a good one to me as well to boot. I can't read the future but I think that can be a good sign. Yes with Fox it has proved other wise in the past. But we will just have to wait and see eh?

[©KAW]

You see, that's the thing. Me, and lots of other Raimi fans knew we were getting a reboot...afer 4 that is. Well, most likely. We wanted another go around, but we didn't get it. That's one of the things that pisses us Raimi fans off. Were a few months before filming. My excitement level was through the roof. Heck, I/us Raimi fans waited years for S-M4, and what happens? It gets cancelled. People just can't understand. I mean, for gods sake, we're not as dumb as some of you guys (you know who you are) think.Well kid, you're not getting another Raimi film, at some point you're going to have to move on. Sam Raimi directed 3 films. To me, that's all any director should direct of a comic book franchise, anymore and he seems like he's hanging on for the money and fame.

Just move on...Raimi is gone.

[Project862006]

WHOA. 80 million??? Ok, that better not be true. I'm all for having a more grounded approach, but wtf is this?

i know that is DB:Evolution budget right there :o

[Showtime]

You are taking it the wrong way he is not saying he is Sony's ***** and puppet he is just saying he is perfect for what Sony wants.A guy who will follow orders and wont complain about what he wants because Sony is giving him the chance to sky rocket in Hollywood and with 1 film he has no place to complain.Not to mention he is cheap and wont ask for much money unlike Raimi and tobey who took alot of the budget up it is safer on the money and creative side of things.

Right exactly, perfect for Sony's needs at this time. I knew I was being pretty clear. :cwink:

[Blackman]

More willing to work with the studio and not have the sway that somebody like Raimi, Cameron, Singer, or another like director would. Why would the number of films he has done matter?



You think Raimi would work with an $80 million budget and a cast of nobodys? Singer? Cameron? Nope.

What do I have to prove?
Cast of unknowns. Thor has a cast of relative unknowns save for a few point is you said the guy is a studio man with no basis for that

[Solidus]

Well I wonder what the budget will actually be. I mean even though it was 10 years ago Matrix did it for 60. D9 has done it for 30. Like I said the majority of a films money goes to the actors/directors anymore. Tobey and Dunst were getting quite hefty paychecks. As well I'm sure most of the others as well.

There are ways to get around it. But yet again I will wait and see and wait for more information.

[craigdbfan]

More willing to work with the studio and not have the sway that somebody like Raimi, Cameron, Singer, or another like director would. Why would the number of films he has done matter?



You think Raimi would work with an $80 million budget and a cast of nobodys? Singer? Cameron? Nope.

What do I have to prove?

Exactly.

Bendable I think is what Sony was going for. $80 million for a Spidey flick?

Guess the webslinger isn't going to do much webslinging in this one. :dry:

Got to save room for teenage angst as Sony press release liked to put it.

[JustABill]

WHOA. 80 million??? Ok, that better not be true. I'm all for having a more grounded approach, but wtf is this?
Yeah. THAT has me surprised as well and hoping it's not true.

[CrypticOne]

I'll give him my support. (500) Days of Summer was a good film.

[Blackman]

Even a film like Batman Begins had a budget of 150 mill

How do they expect to have a film where the main character swings around NY and fights superpowered villains be 80 mill

[Showtime]

Cast of unknowns. Thor has a cast of relative unknowns save for a few point is you said the guy is a studio man with no basis for that

Relative cast of unknowns in Thor? :huh:

Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Kat Dennings
Anthony Hopkins
Stellan Skarsgård
Ray Stevenson
Tom Hiddleston
Rene Russo

If he is working with 80 million dollars and a cast of unknowns he is most certainly a studio guy. I'm not sure what the debate is here.

[FilmNerdJamie]

There is somewhat of a requirement with characters like Spider-Man and Superman to spend some money. You can still tighten your belts. But under $100 million? Your average budget is around $130 million nowadays. I'm not one to usually be doom and gloom because there tends to be more going on underway than is told out loud.

But this sounds bad...

[Solidus]

Exactly.

Bendable I think is what Sony was going for. $80 million for a Spidey flick?

Guess the webslinger isn't going to do much webslinging in this one. :dry:

Got to save room for teenage angst as Sony press release liked to put it.

Look at your sig. ;)

I just think they may not be putting out big pay checks if this is true to big actors. But who knows this may just be a rumor right now. Budget is not locked in yet.

But to me D9 proved you can do cheap SFX and make it look amazing. For 30 million they had some of the best SFX for District 9 period.

[JustABill]

Seriously, that 80 million budget has me worried for the first time since this reboot was announced.

[Crook]

Well I wonder what the budget will actually be. I mean even though it was 10 years ago Matrix did it for 60. D9 has done it for 30. Like I said the majority of a films money goes to the actors/directors anymore. Tobey and Dunst were getting quite hefty paychecks. As well I'm sure most of the others as well.

There are ways to get around it. But yet again I will wait and see and wait for more information.
As you said, Matrix was over a decade ago. As for D9, that thing was shot on a landfill and had very minimal action. Not at all comparable to a proper Spidey film.

[Project862006]

i think spiderman needs to have an epic look to it hey but thats just me

[Maze]

Showtime, don't you think we could have a change of tread title? like official : Mark Webb..

Yup, 80 seem pretty low, but that could confirm a more grounded approach yes, and also that they're not willing to take too much risks in what they possibly are going to experiment?

[Maze]

double post.

[Blackman]

Thor is relative unknowns. How big is SLJ role, and besides Portman and Hopkins alot of the GA isnt going to know what a relative unknown is. We probably have 2 definitions of what unknown actor means

[Crook]

Seriously, that 80 million budget has me worried for the first time since this reboot was announced.
Agreed. That changes the playing field drastically. If that's true, I honestly do not see how they expect to make a great enough film for the masses to get into. This is borderline indie drama, with supernatural characters.

[Showtime]

Showtime, don't you think we could have a change of tread title? like official : Mark Webb..

Yup, 80 seem pretty low, but that could confirm a more grounded approach yes, and also that they're not willing to take too much risks in what they possibly are going to try?

Sure thing Maze.

80 million is very low but they can make it work.

[JustABill]

Relative cast of unknowns in Thor? :huh:

Natalie Portman
Samuel L. Jackson
Kat Dennings
Anthony Hopkins
Stellan Skarsgård
Ray Stevenson
Tom Hiddleston
Rene Russo

If he is working with 80 million dollars and a cast of unknowns he is most certainly a studio guy. I'm not sure what the debate is here.

These people are not really known names to teh general audience. Plus their paychecks are more than likely very smal compared to the other 3 not highlighted.

[Spider-ManHero12]

There is nothing wrong what so ever with it. I loved Raimi's stuff. But it seems your against this film. So is there anything wrong with Loving Spider-Man, Loving Raimi's Spider-man, and loving the idea of some one new doing it too?

And now the rest is not directed at you. I wouldn't have been THAT MUCH against it if it was 8 years after S-M4. HOWEVER, that's not the case, and it's very sad.

[Blackman]

These people are not really known names to teh general audience. Plus their paychecks are more than likely very smal compared to the other 3 not highlighted.
thats what I was saying. But its not a Thor thread back to Spidey

[Solidus]

As you said, Matrix was over a decade ago. As for D9, that thing was shot on a landfill and had very minimal action. Not at all comparable to a proper Spidey film.

Yea but 30 was the whole budget. And they probably still had what 15 for the SFX. I mean that thing was SFX loaded, the Prawns were all CGI, Christopher was in it tons and looked amazing. I'm not saying this will be a great thing, I'm just saying it can be done. If they don't get a well known cast. But who knows what the budget will be, I never saw that in the official release so I guess it may just be a rumor.

I agree it should be higher, so lets see what happens. All I'm saying is sometimes smaller budgets can do wonders. But I will wait until the official announcement on that is given. Rumors can be tricky.

[Sam Fisher]

I have not seen (500) Days of Summer, so I can't say yay or nay either way. All I have to say is...

THANK GOD FOR NO MICHEAL BAY!

[Nathan]

I agree it should be higher, so lets see what happens. All I'm saying is sometimes smaller budgets can do wonders.

With a small budget, sometimes your creativity really shines through. They'll be thinking of lots of new ways to get the desired effect for less money.

[JustABill]

Yes, but this is Spider-Man. A guy who swings around a big city and faces villains with superpowers as well. Something just really has begun to worry me if that truely is the budget.

[TheWiseGuy487]

Sure thing Maze.

80 million is very low but they can make it work.

District 9 only took $30 Million to make, and that turned out really well.

I think this movie will be fine.

[TheComicbookKid]

There is somewhat of a requirement with characters like Spider-Man and Superman to spend some money. You can still tighten your belts. But under $100 million? Your average budget is around $130 million nowadays. I'm not one to usually be doom and gloom because there tends to be more going on underway than is told out loud.

But this sounds bad...

Crap, when Jamie's worried, I'm really worried.

I mean, I know Spidey has a few, less than major villains to fight but this isn't like X1. People have seen Spidey to amazing stuff. You have to outdo their expectations.

[The Joker]

I've no idea who Marc Webb is, so this means very little to me.

Is his 500 days of Summer movie any good?

[Blackman]

I've no idea who Marc Webb is, so this means very little to me.

Is his 500 days of Summer movie any good?
one of the best from 2009, one of my favorite romantic comedies of all time

[Kabuki_Jo]

Sony's gonna screw this movie up.

[FilmNerdJamie]

http://chud.com/articles/articles/22215/1/WELCOME-TO-SMALLVILLE-SPIDER-MAN/Page1.html

[Maze]

Sure thing Maze.

Thanks showtime.

hope everything are going well for you

Happy new year.


80 million is very low but they can make it work

Yup, they could.. ultimate spiderman, they say..

[JustABill]

District 9 only took $30 Million to make, and that turned out really well.

I think this movie will be fine.
This is a good example of a small budget doing alot. But hmmm.

[Solidus]

I've no idea who Marc Webb is, so this means very little to me.

Is his 500 days of Summer movie any good?

Well I liked it. I hate romantic kind of stuff. But this really takes that genre and sets it upside down. It truly had a "realistic" way of romance/love/relationships. No cheesy romantic dialogue or cliche moments. It really was about a man that fell in love, and the majority of the story is him falling out of love and trying to get her back. But failing around every corner. Most (including me) that saw it could relate to it. It does not put love/romance in rose color glasses, it shows it for what it really can be in the real world, and just did a wonderful job of that.

I would recommend to rent it and check it out bud. :up:

It was a good fun flick, that had some deep moments.

[Crook]

Yea but 30 was the whole budget. And they probably still had what 15 for the SFX. I mean that thing was SFX loaded, the Prawns were all CGI, Christopher was in it tons and looked amazing. I'm not saying this will be a great thing, I'm just saying it can be done.
Yes, but this was possible because very little money actually went into location. I stress again, it was a landfill. How can you compare that to a metropolitan area? Even if they opt for a NYC stand-in, that's going to cost a hefty amount of money. Be it on-set locations or building sets.

Plus, we already know Webb is getting 10 million for this gig. I don't know if that goes into the budget, but if so, that's a hefty 1/8 down the drain already.

[Sam Fisher]

Sony's gonna screw this movie up.:whatever:


Let's actually wait till the movie comes out or till we hear some more news before we judge this movie, ok? We hardly know anything about the movie. It could go either way.

[craigdbfan]

Look at your sig. ;)

I just think they may not be putting out big pay checks if this is true to big actors. But who knows this may just be a rumor right now. Budget is not locked in yet.

But to me D9 proved you can do cheap SFX and make it look amazing. For 30 million they had some of the best SFX for District 9 period.

Well yeah, do look at my sig. :p

As the director for D9 started working on special effects at the age of 14 and is a master when it comes to practical effects and CGI.

Marc Webb hasn't proved he has a proficiency in this area. Sure as a character director he is fantastic but we have no idea how well he can handle something like Spider-Man.

I would have been fine with a small director if he had shown experience in both handling effects of this magnitude and characters. Webb hasn't.

[©KAW]

If only I could have taken the huge budget away from Sam Raimi & Co., besides the train scene in SM2, the CGI sucks in these films. Maybe that has to do with it being handled by Sony Imageworks. WETA should be doing the CGI.

[Solidus]

Yes, but this was possible because very little money actually went into location. I stress again, it was a landfill. How can you compare that to a metropolitan area? Even if they opt for a NYC stand-in, that's going to cost a hefty amount of money. Be it on-set locations or building sets.

Plus, we already know Webb is getting 10 million for this gig. I don't know if that goes into the budget, but if so, that's a hefty 1/8 down the drain already.

If that is the case I doubt the budget will be that low.

Well yeah, do look at my sig. :p

As the director for D9 started working on special effects at the age of 14 and is a master when it comes to practical effects and CGI.

Marc Webb hasn't proved he has a proficiency in this area. Sure as a character director he is fantastic but we have no idea how well he can handle something like Spider-Man.

I would have been fine with a small director if he had shown experience in both handling effects of this magnitude and characters. Webb hasn't.

Yea but I'm just saying lots can be done with little. But I will wait and see. I'm still excited. I'm sure the budget will be over 100.

[Boom]

Weta should be doing the special effects.

Period.

[Chewy]

The $80 Million budget is not a good sign

[SPIDERMAN117]

With $80 Million dollars...Idk what sony is thinking...i'd rather have a 120 million film like Star Trek...but for Special Effects....I would have ILM take on Spider-man...I love WETA....but I want to see what ILM could do.

[Solidus]

Weta should be doing the special effects.

Period.

That would be very nice if they did.

[The Chris]

80 million dollar budget! How the heck can a Spider-Man film be made with only 80 million dollars! That sounds like a disaster right there. Spider-Mann swinging around the city alone would call for a high budget, let alone fights with villains! Run Marc Run!

[©KAW]

Is the 80M budget official from Sony, who's reporting on the budget, which studios usually never reveal?

[Maze]

And IF this is true, how can they do that on such a small budget?

Ron Burgundy 1 hour ago
I read the Vanderbilt script 4 months ago...The Lizard, Venom, and The Scorpion are in it...you all should be thankful this guy is taking over or we would have had to wait forever for a decent adaptation of these characters...Venom will be set up as a villain and will redeem himself to be a anti hero for the Venom movie...The Scorpion gets a symbiote but its not the Venom symbiote..its one thats far more dangerous....

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/#dsq-comments#ixzz0d7AMoXQt

[Crook]

Weta should be doing the special effects.

Period.
If this budget is true, they're stuck with Sony's effects house, and that's probably with a discount. :funny:

[Project862006]

Hollywood Reporter said it is around that money range quite a credible source

[samsnee]

I'm sure Marc Webb is a nice guy, but let's be honest. Sony wanted a director who hasn't done a big FX movie before so they can walk all over him.

[night0205]

80 million dollar budget? Spider-man 1 was 139 Million? How the hell do we know this source is telling the truth?

[JustABill]

And IF this is true, how can they do that on such a small budget?



http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/#dsq-comments#ixzz0d7AMoXQt
That sounds like a load of lies. 3 villains in the origin film? On a budget of 80 million? All this does not add up.

[Solidus]

Well after hearing the uproars I'm sure they will up it some if they have not already. Budgets change all the time, most films go over budget anyways.

[samsnee]

And as much as I would like to see a smaller, more character driven Spider-man movie, it just isn't possible if they are pushing it as a big summer tentpole. You can't do a movie about teen angst and then end it with a big superhero/supervillain fight that may not fit into the tone of the movie they are describing.

[Boom]

I read the Vanderbilt script 4 months ago...The Lizard, Venom, and The Scorpion are in it...you all should be thankful this guy is taking over or we would have had to wait forever for a decent adaptation of these characters...Venom will be set up as a villain and will redeem himself to be a anti hero for the Venom movie...The Scorpion gets a symbiote but its not the Venom symbiote..its one thats far more dangerous....
That sounds really bad to me.

[terry78]

I'm late to the party, so I do have to say I am interested to see the route Mark goes with this. I did see 500 Days and he does have somewhat of a different vibe going on. Not quite quirky, but not sappy either. The movie seemed to get the fact that it wasn't a normal rom-com type deal, so I think Webb will be able to capture Spidey's tongue in cheek nature at times.

[Nathan]

And IF this is true, how can they do that on such a small budget?

Ron Burgundy 1 hour ago
I read the Vanderbilt script 4 months ago...The Lizard, Venom, and The Scorpion are in it...you all should be thankful this guy is taking over or we would have had to wait forever for a decent adaptation of these characters...Venom will be set up as a villain and will redeem himself to be a anti hero for the Venom movie...The Scorpion gets a symbiote but its not the Venom symbiote..its one thats far more dangerous....


I hope this is fake. http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4585/fies2.gif (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/fies2.gif/)

[Solidus]

Sounds fake to me. I'm sure if anything they have way retooled Vanberbilts script from long ago. Because originally it was made to follow Sam's Spidey 3. So with out a doubt the SM4 one will be scrapped and re-done. Which maybe he already has done for a back up plan with Spidey 4.

[Bruce Malone]

That 80 million budget is really interesting to me. I mean what's the last superhero movie to have a budget under 100 million? Even X1 i think was above 80 and that was film is pretty much the grand father of the modern superhero film movement.

[BenReilly]

Interesting tidbit from Drew at Hitfix, in regards to the origin:

I've talked to several people who have read it now, and word is, he's Spider-Man from page one.

http://twitter.com/DrewAtHitFix/status/7968824667

[The Freak]

I know you guys are scared that he won't be able to pull off action, so let me give you an example of how he has handled it in the past in this music video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCUpvTMis-Y - If you don't like the song just mute it .

[Blackman]

Interesting tidbit from Drew at Hitfix, in regards to the origin:
good now ppl can stop b**ching about it being an origin story

[JustABill]

Interesting tidbit from Drew at Hitfix, in regards to the origin:
See THIS... THIS is the way I wanted it to go. Spectacular Spider-Man style. Over the summer break origin.

[terry78]

We don't really need to see the origin. Just treat it as a reverse Batman. Burton's Wayne was already the Bat for at least a full several months or so and was viewed as a myth.

[Project862006]

no origins is great news atleast some of my concerns have gone away

[craigdbfan]

See THIS... THIS is the way I wanted it to go. Spectacular Spider-Man style. Over the summer break origin.

The one bit of good news so far.

Really hope the $80 mil budget gets debunked soon too. This **** will not work with that budget especially with a director that has no expertise in that area of work like Neill Blomkamp seeing as people keep bringing up D9.

[Congo Jack]

I'll have to go buy (500) DAYS OF SUMMER now to learn a bit more about Mark Webb's style.

If it's true that they're aren't repeating the origin again - that's a good start at least.

[night0205]

I only wish Season 3 of Spectacular Spider-man was being done.

[sauronthegreat]

If the film is going to be a serious character driven drama 80mil will do just nicely. Maybe they are going with a less demanding villain like the Chameleon.

[Maze]

Marc Webb is an interesting choice, and for the moment he has shown strenght especially on character departement.

so it all add up to a story and not an fx extravaganza.. but at the same time Peterr Parker is spiderman from page one. i guess you could limit his scenes à la Burton's Batman..

[SPIDERMAN117]

Tagline for the New Spider-man film.

"This is a story of boy meets superpowers. But you should know up front, this is not a origin story "

LOL I kid :P
But I think Marc Webb could do it...I loved (500) Days of summer....but only time will tell

[Showtime]

District 9 only took $30 Million to make, and that turned out really well.

I think this movie will be fine.

Different movie, different time, different director. We'll see though.

These people are not really known names to teh general audience. Plus their paychecks are more than likely very smal compared to the other 3 not highlighted.

The size of the paychecks is neither here nor there. They are known, because the general public will recognize them. "Oh that's the guy from _____."

Thor is relative unknowns. How big is SLJ role, and besides Portman and Hopkins alot of the GA isnt going to know what a relative unknown is. We probably have 2 definitions of what unknown actor means

Lets put it this way, if those quantify as unknowns by your definition, then whomever they select for Spider-Man will be complete strangers.

[terry78]

JGL's character in the movie is basically Peter Parker and Spider-Man all at once. Gets the short end of the stick constantly, but is smarmy about it.

[bunk]

They made the first X-Men for less than 80 million. Of course, that was almost a decade ago, and well… it was not the most epic movie.

Either way, I have something to rent this weekend.

[terry78]

JGL's character in the movie is basically Peter Parker and Spider-Man all at once. Gets the short end of the stick constantly, but is smarmy about it.

[JP]

As long as we don't see his origins, I'm fine. And I'm not worried about the budget. Wasn't Hellboy II $80 mil?

[JP]

Tagline for the New Spider-man film.

"This is a story of boy meets superpowers. But you should know up front, this is not a origin story "

Genius. :up:

[Project862006]

hellboy 2 was 85 million this could work

[craigdbfan]

As long as we don't see his origins, I'm fine. And I'm not worried about the budget. Wasn't Hellboy II $80 mil?

Wasn't the director Guillermo Del Toro?

Once again someone using an example of a director with a proficiency in special effects.

Marc Webb was hired, fine I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he can make this work.

But $80 mil for a Spidey movie along with a director who hasn't displayed talent with special effects? No, thanks.

That $80 mil needs to get boosted to $150. For gosh sakes the first one was $140.

[JustABill]

Yeah, but Del Toro had been working with effects for quite a while at that point in his career.

I just hope Webb can pull this off if the budget really is that low.

[terry78]

We all know that the fanboy backlash was part of the reason this whole thing transpired. Hollywood trolls the internet for opinions all the time, and SM3 has had the rep of being horrible. It made a decent amount of money, but they know they need that nerd money to keep this **** going.

[DIRECTOR]

If you guys watch 500 Days of Summer, which is a great movie by the way, you can see a bit of Spiderman colors and cinemotagraphy. And I think the main guy can play Spiderman............ but why oh why do they want a teenager???? It's not going to be good at all

[ross2287]

500 Days of Summer was a great film guys. Maybe the funniest all year, and completely unique to the Romantic Comedy Genre. I'm behind this film, for now...

Solid choice. :up:

Agreed. I think Webb realizes the spectacle that's to be expected from this franchise. While lacking the experience, we never know what he can come up with. Peter Jackson wasn't exactly a set-piece puppeteer, before tackling LOTR. Look how that turned out.

Oh, and the guy knows how to develop realistic and engaging characters. Particularly, youth-oriented. I can't stress enough how essential that is, and how lucky we are that Webb is handling that part.

The reality is, the problem isn't the focus on Peter Parker for Sam Raimi, it's that wasn't the Peter Parker from the comics! Hopefully inspiration will come from the Spectacular Spider-man animated series, because that seemed like the Peter Parker we want.

Weta should be doing the special effects.

Period.

I agree with everything here.

Tagline for the New Spider-man film.

"This is a story of boy meets superpowers. But you should know up front, this is not a origin story "

LOL I kid :P
But I think Marc Webb could do it...I loved (500) Days of summer....but only time will tell

:up: :lmao:

I'm a little concerned about the budget, but I'm not gonna start complaining. I'm looking forward to a Spectacular Spider-Man style Marc Webb trilogy.

[DIRECTOR]

ps. This is going to end up being another Superman Returns movie

[Angel_Faerie]

Please tell me I'm not the only one amused by the fact that a man named Webb is directing Spider-Man

[samsnee]

Please tell me I'm not the only one amused by the fact that a man named Webb is directing Spider-Man

Beats their first choice Sheldon Spiderman.

[Angel_Faerie]

Beats their first choice Sheldon Spiderman.

:hehe:

[Deaths Head II]

Please tell me I'm not the only one amused by the fact that a man named Webb is directing Spider-Man

Nope. :oldrazz:

[Angel_Faerie]

Nope. :oldrazz:

Let's just hope he's a good a match for Spidey as his name.

[terry78]

Beats their first choice Sheldon Spiderman.

And it's pronounced "Spuh-DERE-man."

[batman44]

I'm late to the party, but here are my reaction to some of the news of the day:

Marc Webb as director: I like, I think he will do a great job with the characters.

80 million dollar budget: I hope that's false. When WB puts more money in a non-Batman/ Superman unproven superhero film...something feels wrong.

Cast of unknowns: As long as the actors are quality, I see no problem

Ultimate influence: Depends on the what is taken from the ultimate lines, but I prefer 616 through and through

Action and Villian taking a back seat to Parkers story: I've got no huge problems with that. Just make sure the action is quality

Non-origin film: It's what I expected.

Overall, I'm cautiously optimistic about the new movie. The low budget and Ultimate influence is a bit worrying for me.

[DACMAN]

The touchstone for the new movie will not be the 1960s comics, which were the inspiration behind the movies by Raimi, who grew on up on them, but rather this past decade's "Ultimate Spider-Man" comics by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley where the villain-fighting took a back seat to the high school angst.

HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!







I could not be happier. Brian Bendis gave us the best version of Spider-Man with Ultimate Spider-Man. It's like it's freaken Christmans!!!!!!!!!!!!! SONY GET BENDIS TO HELP WRITE THIS SCRIPT!!!! DO IT !!! DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRIAN BENDIS TO PEN SPIDEY!!!!!!

[JustABill]

The script's already written. And Ultimate is FAR from the best adaption of Spider-Man. Good for the most part though.

[DACMAN]

Nothing is better. Nothing. The only thing that comes close is the JMS run in Amazing and Stan's own run in the 60's. Other than that, nothing can even touch Ultimate.

[Solidus]

Though I'm not as "knowledgeable" in my Spidey universe (I'm mainly a Bat fan) I liked a lot of the Ultimate Spidey's story arcs. But somethings I did not like. The thing I did not like about the Ultimate (and correct me if I'm wrong) was GG and HG. I did not like the "monster" aspect of them. I kinda thought the Venom arch was cool. But the Goblins, I never read a lot of them, but the few I did I did not care for the way the Goblin was.

Other then that I"m still pretty optimistic so far. I think Webb will do a great job. But lets hope all the other factors go well as well.

[Boom]

I hate Ultimate Spider-Man :dry:.

[DACMAN]

That's because you're insane. I pity you.

[JustABill]

Ultimate Carnage was a mess. As were the Goblins. Ultimate Gwen Stacy is just annoying and should've stayed dead. Mary Jane turning into a wolf creature. Kitty Pryde playing a major role in multiple ways, her as Ultimate Hood was LAME. Aunt May becoming a haven home for superheroes. Ultimate Spider-Woman being Peter's clone (this one is kinda cool I guess, but still sorta hokey.)

Seriously...for alot of Bendis's good ideas in Ultimate. There's a ton that totally tarnish the good ones.

[craigdbfan]

I hope its more Spectacular Spider-Man than Ultimate Spider-Man.

Spectacular did a brilliant job of mixing 616, Ultimate, Raimi, and 90's Animated to create one of the best iteration of the characters yet.

If Marc can pull all that off then he's got a winner.

[Solidus]

Ultimate Carnage was a mess. As were the Goblins. Ultimate Gwen Stacy is just annoying and should've stayed dead. Mary Jane turning into a wolf creature. Kitty Pryde playing a major role in multiple ways, her as Ultimate Hood was LAME. Aunt May becoming a haven home for superheroes. Ultimate Spider-Woman being Peter's clone (this one is kinda cool I guess, but still sorta hokey.)

Seriously...for alot of Bendis's good ideas in Ultimate. There's a ton that totally tarnish the good ones.

I guess you could say the nice thing about doing a film, you can't incorporate a lot of things. So hopefully what they do, is take the best stuff from it. I liked some of the things I read, and as I said before I did not like what he did with Osborn.

[JP]

It's all in the script that's already been written. :/

[Boom]

That's because you're insane. I pity you.
Golly shucks! Thanks :awesome:!

[Solidus]

I hope its more Spectacular Spider-Man than Ultimate Spider-Man.

Spectacular did a brilliant job of mixing 616, Ultimate, Raimi, and 90's Animated to create one of the best iteration of the characters yet.

If Marc can pull all that off then he's got a winner.

Agreed.

I think the same thing. As I said before with the great things of doing comic films, there is so much material, you can pick and choose. So hopefully they pick the good things. Ultimate had some things I really liked. Then some things not so much. I have a feeling Vanderbilt did incorporate both since originally he was making this for Sam's vision of Spidey which was more from TAS.

[JustABill]

I'm really hoping it takes a little from every adaption and doesn't totally follow Ultimate through and through.

[Solidus]

I doubt it will, comic movies usually take from all over the place.

[Closerframe]

I don't like the sound of casting relative unknowns.

[Hurm...]

I loved 500 Days of Summer. I like that Sony is giving directors that don't have experience with a wide range of films a chance to play with the Spidey-verse. I'm just hoping for the best from Webb since I really enjoyed Raimi's Spider-Man, it's good to see a fresh take after a decade of amazing films. Good luck Webb, you'll probably need it lol.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Ultimate Carnage was a mess. As were the Goblins. Ultimate Gwen Stacy is just annoying and should've stayed dead. Mary Jane turning into a wolf creature. Kitty Pryde playing a major role in multiple ways, her as Ultimate Hood was LAME. Aunt May becoming a haven home for superheroes. Ultimate Spider-Woman being Peter's clone (this one is kinda cool I guess, but still sorta hokey.)

Seriously...for alot of Bendis's good ideas in Ultimate. There's a ton that totally tarnish the good ones.

:up: Agreed.

[Solidus]

I don't like the sound of casting relative unknowns.

This was the best part of the news.

Why have over paid actors just for their names? I mean there are tons of movies where cast unknowns become huge stars. As long as their good actors who cares of they are known or not.

[The Lizard]

*adds 500 Days of Summer to Netflix queue*

I hope Webb can deliver in the action department.

[Hurm...]

I don't know if many people will agree with me, but I would love to see this Spider-Man have a different feel to it by having a soundtrack like 500 Days of Summer, rather than a musical score. I think it would be interesting and unique as opposed to most superhero films.

[Sam Fisher]

Webb said, “This is a dream come true and I couldn’t be more aware of the challenge, responsibility, or opportunity. Sam Rami’s virtuoso rendering of Spider-Man is a humbling precedent to follow and build upon. The first three films are beloved for good reason. But I think the Spider-Man mythology transcends not only generations but directors as well. I am signing on not to ‘take over’ from Sam. That would be impossible. Not to mention arrogant. I’m here because there’s an opportunity for ideas, stories, and histories that will add a new dimension, canvas, and creative voice to Spider-Man.tions but directors as well. I am signing on not to ‘take over’ from Sam. That would be impossible. Not to mention arrogant. I’m here because there’s an opportunity for ideas, stories, and histories that will add a new dimension, canvas, and creative voice to Spider-Man.s, and creative voice to Spider-Man.”
http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/2010/01/19/breaking-news-spider-mans-new-director-says-its-a-dream-come-true/

[Closerframe]

This was the best part of the news.

Why have over paid actors just for their names? I mean there are tons of movies where cast unknowns become huge stars. As long as their good actors who cares of they are known or not.

When I think of people who are relatively unknowns, I think of actors that come on shows such as Friday Night Lights or Smallville. If you're selling a film like Spider-Man you're gonna need some faces people know.

[NinjaCarm]

I hope its more Spectacular Spider-Man than Ultimate Spider-Man.

Spectacular did a brilliant job of mixing 616, Ultimate, Raimi, and 90's Animated to create one of the best iteration of the characters yet.

If Marc can pull all that off then he's got a winner.

A-MEN!!!! About time someone co-signed w/ me!:oldrazz:

[DACMAN]

Ultimate Carnage was a mess. As were the Goblins. Ultimate Gwen Stacy is just annoying and should've stayed dead. Mary Jane turning into a wolf creature. Kitty Pryde playing a major role in multiple ways, her as Ultimate Hood was LAME. Aunt May becoming a haven home for superheroes. Ultimate Spider-Woman being Peter's clone (this one is kinda cool I guess, but still sorta hokey.)

Seriously...for alot of Bendis's good ideas in Ultimate. There's a ton that totally tarnish the good ones.

The only one I agree with is the MJ wolf thing. That was pretty bad. Everything else blows all others out of the water.

And while I loved the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, the best parts of it were taken from Ultimate Spider-Man.

Gwen Stacy was very well done. Her character was fleshed out and complex.

Kitty Pride as Peter Parkers girl friend was amazing and done very well. I loved MJ but Peter and Kitty's relationship was so natural. You life as a superhero to dangerous for the girl next door? Date a superhero!

Spider-Girl was also awesome. Her being Peter's clone was genius.

[JustABill]

Seriously? Seriously? Dacman. Seriously? All those are the worst of the worst ideas when it comes to Bendis's run on Ultimate. The only ones I ever sort of liked were Ultimate Spider-Woman and Ultimate Kitty Pryde's occasional roles.

[NinjaCarm]

The only one I agree with is the MJ wolf thing. That was pretty bad. Everything else blows all others out of the water.

And while I loved the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, the best parts of it were taken from Ultimate Spider-Man.

Gwen Stacy was very well done. Her character was fleshed out and complex.

Kitty Pride as Peter Parkers girl friend was amazing and done very well. Her being Peter's clone was genius.

Dacman, I disagree with you on your praise for Ultimate Spider-Man. The Spectacular Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man put together, mixing all the the best of the "Spider-Mans"

I did like the Spider-Woman clone saga though.

[Solidus]

When I think of people who are relatively unknowns, I think of actors that come on shows such as Friday Night Lights or Smallville. If you're selling a film like Spider-Man you're gonna need some faces people know.

I think your looking at it the wrong way. They are going for people that do not have big names. But knowing Webb he'll make sure they are good actors. Who cares as long as they can act.

And you don't need a BIG name to sell Spider-man. You say Spider-Man that is all you need. Spider-Man made Tobey a big star, he was not very big before hand. So yea.....that actually is not sound logic. Names like Spider-Man and Batman don't need big named actors to play the lead, or draw them in. The names of the heroes are known enough that it will pull people in.

[JustABill]

Dacman, I disagree with you on your praise for Ultimate Spider-Man. The Spectacular Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man put together, mixing all the the best of the "Spider-Mans"

I did like the Spider-Woman clone saga though.
I agree. Along with JMS's run (barring Sins Past and all the Spider-Totem/Other stuff), Spectacular Spider-Man is FANTASTIC stuff and the best Spider-Man to boot.

[DACMAN]

Seriously? Seriously? Dacman. Seriously? All those are the worst of the worst ideas when it comes to Bendis's run on Ultimate. The only ones I ever sort of liked were Ultimate Spider-Woman and Ultimate Kitty Pryde's occasional roles.

So the only thing we disagree on is Gwen. I think Bendis wanted to stay away from making her a cookie cutter chick in a book already full of female characters. And as much as I like Gwen in the 616 comics, she was pretty bland. She might have been annoying in the beginning but after Bendis took some time with her and let her grow she became a great character. I agree that he should have left her dead, but she was still a great character. And what I really loved was that after she was dead we learn that Flash liked her. That's awesome!

[JustABill]

So the only thing we disagree on is Gwen. I think Bendis wanted to stay away from making her a cookie cutter chick in a book already full of female characters. And as much as I like Gwen in the 616 comics, she was pretty bland. She might have been annoying in the beginning but after Bendis took some time with her and let her grow she became a great character. I agree that he should have left her dead, but she was still a great character. And what I really loved was that after she was dead we learn that Flash liked her. That's awesome!
No, we disagree on everything up there..except Kitty Pryde (possibly) and Ultimate Spider-Woman (also possibly.)

[NinjaCarm]

No, we disagree on everything up there..except Kitty Pryde (possibly) and Ultimate Spider-Woman (also possibly.)

Never got into the whole Peter / Kitty Pride thing.

[DACMAN]

I think your looking at it the wrong way. They are going for people that do not have big names. But knowing Webb he'll make sure they are good actors. Who cares as long as they can act.

And you don't need a BIG name to sell Spider-man. You say Spider-Man that is all you need. Spider-Man made Tobey a big star, he was not very big before hand. So yea.....that actually is not sound logic. Names like Spider-Man and Batman don't need big named actors to play the lead, or draw them in. The names of the heroes are known enough that it will pull people in.

No kidding. Is he even serious? We need a face people know to sell a character that will out live everyone here? That's silly. No one knew who Hugh Jackman was. Most people didn't know who Bale was. NO ONE knew who Christopher Reeves was. No one is going to go "Oh there's a new Spider-Man movie coming out! George Clooney isn't in it!? Screw that!" :whatever:

As long as they can act, no one cares. Well, and for Peter he needs to be funny too.

[Spider-Fan]

USM as directed by Marc Webb. I hope they pull the good elements of USM, and not Gwen's portrayel, the clone crap, and that stuff.

I'm not stoked about this director pick. I knew it would be someone on this level, but a Fincher would have made me more confident it wasn't a studio shoot. With him in the chair, it still can be.

[Robin91939]

$80 Million seems a bit modest for a Spider-man film.

Spider-man had a $139 Million budget.
Spider-man 2 had a $200 Million budget.
Spider-man 3 had a $258 Million budget.

Even with the cast overhaul, new director and really using cheaper talent, you'd imagine at least a budget of $130 Million.

This series is going to need at least one "name" even if in a supporting or villain role. Much like the new Batman franchise used Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, well established actors in anchoring roles. I can see the same for Norman Osborn, Curt Connors, Captain Stacey or characters like this.

These will cost some money, but then you have to demand that the effects be unlike what we've seen in the Rami Trilogy. They have to be cutting edge and truly unique. This is Spider-man, not an independent film with Spider-man in it.

-R

[MessiahDecoy123]

ps. This is going to end up being another Superman Returns movie
ha! There's no indication so far it will be.

none.

[Leenie]

500 Days of Summer is a really good movie.

I don't know how he'll do with the action in the movie, but we'll see. Considering some of the other directors who were rumored, Marc Webb was the best of the bunch.

Taking the Ultimate Spider-Man approach is probably a good idea for a reboot, in my opinion.

No complaints so far, to be honest.

[Goran]

I don't know... I never liked the Ultimate comics....I'd rather have them use SSM as source material.But I do think Webb is a good choice :) he seems young, fresh and able to make a "contemporary" Spider-Man film.

[The Guardian]

The man's last name is Webb,:o he was born to direct Spidey!!!:ikyn

Seriously though, I think he can pull it off, if he manages to do the film even remotely resembling Spectacular Spider-man, I will be ecstatic!!!:awesome::up:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Started watching some of 500 Days, I only made it 40 minutes into it so far & I'll watch the rest tomorrow or sometime this week, I really love it so far I have to say. Love all the characters.

[louiebling$]

Every director has to start somewhere when it comes to action films.

I'm willing to throw my support behind Webb as 500 Days of Summer was good.
:up:
Me too

[LadyVader]

Given that the reason Spiderman 1 and 2 succeded is because they had a lot of heart, which few action movies today have, I am very happy with Marc Webb as director. I'm not as worried about action scenes because he will probably have a good team behind him to support him on that. And really, any one of us can think of a few awesome action scenes that we'd like to see in a movie. Making the characters believable and likeable is a far bigger challenge than creating a decent action scene. IMO.

That being said, I'm also hoping Marc Webb will not make the movie as gritty as it's been reported.

[UltimateJustin]

If they want to do USM, that's fine. If they want to make a low budget Spider-Man in highschool movie inspired by the success of Twilight, that's not, and if that's the route they take then maybe it's time someone quarters Laura Z and Sony.

[spider-neil]

I am seriously worried this guy has no action experience and special effects experience.

raimi - had action and vfx experience before spidey
jackson - had action expeience and vfx experience before LOTR
favreau - had action and vfx experience before iron man
nolan - had action experience (vfx experience is neither here nor there batman has no powers)

also you have a light budget

I'm calling it right now, this movie is going to be spidey LITE. hooray!! MORE peter parker! LESS spider-man! fantastic absolutely fantastic! bravo sony, bra-VO!

[spider-neil]

say what you will about raimi's characterization of PP/spidey, the action in all three movies was amazing.
webb may well nail the character of PP out of costume but if spidey is on screen for 10 minutes in an hour and half movie that is a fail, wheter spidy wise cracks or not.

its like smallville; CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, red and blue blur, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK,

[spider-neil]

I hope webb and sony remember this movie is called;

'spider-man!'

not

'peter parker'

[rocco2216]

say what you will about raimi's characterization of PP/spidey, the action in all three movies was amazing.
webb may well nail the character of PP out of costume but if spidey is on screen for 10 minutes in an hour and half movie that is a fail, wheter spidy wise cracks or not.

its like smallville; CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK, red and blue blur, CK, CK, CK, CK, CK,


Yeah, just like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films. The villains, action scenes, and Spider-Man took a back seat in them. And why does everyone think it'll copy Smallville? Didn't Smallville copy Spider-Man? A teen superhero in high school? Spider-Man did it first in the 60's comics and Ultimate Spider-Man before Smallville.

[rocco2216]

In fact, Spider-Man 2, which is considered by most to be the best one so far, had the least amount of action in it.

[©KAW]

double post

[Retroman]

Webb is proficient in the use of visual effects. A number of his music videos have lots of fx shots which have helped win him awards.

I'm still not on board with the idea of a reboot but i think Webb (how ironic:hehe:) deserves a chance to prove himself. He's certainly got a big job on his hands taking over from Raimi, proving the sceptics wrong and directing his first big budget feature of a franchise that's already worth billions.

It's good to read (if that rumor is true) that he will be Spider-Man from page one though i'm a little worried that their focus is Ultimate Spider-Man. Recalling the few issues i've read from that series i hope they don't draw too much inspiration from that incarnation. The 80 million budget is another thing that worries me because there's only so much you can pull off without the use of (expensive) CG. Especially if they are throwing a couple classic Spidey villains in the mix.:o

Now i need to rent 500 Days of Summer on dvd this weekend to see what all the fuss is about.

[©KAW]

Spider-man had a $139 Million budget.
Spider-man 2 had a $200 Million budget.
Spider-man 3 had a $258 Million budget.
All of this money, 597M in budget money to be exact, and the Spider-Man movies has some of the most crap-worthy CGI/Visual Effects you'd ever expect to see in a big-budget film. Maybe now that they only have 80M to work with, someone will actually have to be 'CREATIVE' for the first time in this franchise's history.

Besides the train scene in SM2 and the birth of Sandman, everything else in this series' VFX was mediocre at best.

For goodness sake Sony, your Sony Imageworks studio sucks, if you want quality VFX take the film to WETA (Lord of the Rings, Avatar) special effect company where James Cameron's new technology resides. Your company is mediocre, we don't have time for you to play catch up, get some professionals for Spider-Man.

[Octoberist]

Maybe it's time to get WETA or ILM or even Double Negative to do the CGI.

BTW, i love 500 days of Summer. go marc webb!

[Octoberist]

has anyone mentioned that Richard Donner just had The Omen under his belt before tackling Superman?

[BenReilly]

has anyone mentioned that Richard Donner just had The Omen under his belt before tackling Superman?

Richard Donner's only big hit pre-Superman, was a horror film. Most of his prior experience came from television. Donner had a very distinct personality though. He took the job of making a Superman film, very seriously. He saw it as protecting a piece of Americana.

[craigdbfan]

His first film X-15 a movie based on a pilots who had to test out rocket planes, which obviously dealt with flying. He was familiar with filming said object through the sky.

Superman deals with a super hero who's main ability is flight. Donner was hired for Superman due to his background with special effects and how he dealt with flying in that very movie.

He also made a comedy afterwards and then The Omen.

Again Marc Webb has only shown that he is really good at directing a "love" story and handling characters masterfully.

We still have no idea how he will handle the special effect duties that will come with the Spidey reboot.

Just to keep things in perspective. Its a legitimate point to worry about.

[spider-neil]

if you are giving the effects to ILM/weta just hand over the entire 80m budget.

anyway, the reason the SM movies are so expensive is its shot in new york.

[hatebox]

Let's face it, Sony are hoping they've found their own Christopher Nolan in this guy. But even (or especially) compared Nolan, Webb's got a hell of a lot to live up to.

[The Caped Knight]

I hope its more Spectacular Spider-Man than Ultimate Spider-Man.

Spectacular did a brilliant job of mixing 616, Ultimate, Raimi, and 90's Animated to create one of the best iteration of the characters yet.

If Marc can pull all that off then he's got a winner.

My thoughts exactly . :cwink:

[Retroman]

Just look at some of the music videos Webb has directed over the past decade or so. Effects aren't really alien to him guys but i do agree that 80 million is pretty measly in this day and age. If he can actually make that work and give us a great Spider-Man movie more power to him but i have my doubts.:o

http://www.marcwebb.com/

[rocco2216]

Exactly, no one knows what any director or actor for that matter is capable of. I mean Christopher Nolan thought outside the box when he cast Heath Ledger as the Joker. People thought he lost it lol.

[<(o_o)>]

Just look at some of the music videos Webb has directed over the past decade or so. Effects aren't really alien to him guys but i do agree that 80 million is pretty measly in this day and age. If he can actually make that work and give us a great Spider-Man movie more power to him but i have my doubts.:o

http://www.marcwebb.com/

That does seem really low for a big budget movie that should cost at least twice as much than what they were given. I hope it isn't true but maybe Sony want to do a CGI Spider-Man cartoon movie instead of live action movie.

[matrix_ghost]

I don't think the 80 million number is true.
Can an 80 million SPidey movie work ?
Yes if you don't have spidey swinging thru NY , have a gritty look a la D9 to hide imperfections , not shoot in the states and keep your VFX grounded. And not grounded in reality but grounded as in not having grand sweeping shots but small stuff.

That stuff just won't work with an audience that's have witnessed Raimi's last 3 films. Regardless of how people on this ( and another) forum(s) feel about the quality of the VFX , no one can deny that the movies were enjoyable to the general audience. IF that wasn't the case those movies wouldn't have brought in billions on dollars. The VFX were big massive shots that cost a crapload of money.

Wise lesson here : You have to spend money to make money.
Even a "small" movie like Watchmen ( if you compare the scale with stuff like King Kong , Superman Returns , Iron Man , Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions) with no name actors cost 130 million.

I can't see the reboot costing LESS then 180 million which is what i think the article should've posted.


Also yay for Webb. I was getting sick of "rain drops keep falling on my head " and peter's emo look anyway

[dark_b]

Sure thing Maze.

80 million is very low but they can make it work.how? :huh:

district 9 and other similar movies are bad examples.

[matrix_ghost]

if you are giving the effects to ILM/weta just hand over the entire 80m budget.

anyway, the reason the SM movies are so expensive is its shot in new york.

Oh yes.
Like doing having virtual humans douking it out in virtual cities with sweeping camera moves is cheap....

C'mon. The VFX for these movies are huge and expensive. Spiderman 2 VFX budget alone cost more then then production costs ( which includes paying NY to shoot the movie there).

[dark_b]

I don't think the 80 million number is true.
Can an 80 million SPidey movie work ?
Yes if you don't have spidey swinging thru NY , have a gritty look a la D9 to hide imperfections , not shoot in the states and keep your VFX grounded. And not grounded in reality but grounded as in not having grand sweeping shots but small stuff.

That stuff just won't work with an audience that's have witnessed Raimi's last 3 films. Regardless of how people on this ( and another) forum(s) feel about the quality of the VFX , no one can deny that the movies were enjoyable to the general audience. IF that wasn't the case those movies wouldn't have brought in billions on dollars. The VFX were big massive shots that cost a crapload of money.

Wise lesson here : You have to spend money to make money.
Even a "small" movie like Watchmen ( if you compare the scale with stuff like King Kong , Superman Returns , Iron Man , Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions) with no name actors cost 130 million.

I can't see the reboot costing LESS then 180 million which is what i think the article should've posted.


Also yay for Webb. I was getting sick of "rain drops keep falling on my head " and peter's emo look anywayi agree 100%.

[ultimatefan]

First of all, this 80 million budget story is most likely BS. It´s not even big enough for a Sherlock Holmes movie these days. Sony reportedly wanted to spend 200m on the next Spidey movie. It´s still their flagship franchise, they won´t pull stops on it. They´re already saving money by getting a newcomer director and most likely unknown actors so they can spend more on FX and stuff.

I can´t comment on Webb´s film directing - haven´t seen 500 Days Of Summer yet- but I´m happy they went with the same tradition as a Chris Nolan or a Pete Jackson, a director who comes to big budget blockbusters with an indie filmmaking sensibility, instead of some action hack who just knows to shoot explosions,.

[spider-neil]

how? :huh:

district 9 and other similar movies are bad examples.

district 9 wasn't shot in new york.
the prawns are in essense tall humans not a superhuman, totally different type of dynamic

[©KAW]

It means they're going to have to be a hell of a lot more creative. Although I personally don't believe the budget that's being reported, and assume it will be debunked soon. But I like the idea of a much lower budget, I happen to think Raimi & Co. (Sony Imageworks) did horrible job on the visual effects (minus the train scene and the birth of Sandman) Spider-Man films should have been groundbreaking on all levels. They had the money and three movies to produce groundbreaking visual effects and failed to do it.

Spider-Man's VFX are already outdated. There's better stuff in other big-budget movies. I still think to this day, there is no comic book movie that I have seen that's better than "THE MATRIX" visual effects even today. Same can be said for "TERMINATOR 2". Still light years beyond anything in Spider-Man. Which is a shame.

And the reason why is simple, Sony doesn't believe in quality, they will not go where there is much better visual effects (WETA, ILM, Digital Domain, etc.). They're greedy and want to keep Spider-Man for themselves, even if it mean the quality will suffer, and if Sony Imageworks is doing the VFX, you can just bet it will suffer.

[night0205]

Terminator 2 is credible because it was the first real focus on CGI in a film, after Abyss, and it led the way for Jurassic Park being the way it was, but there is no way in hell Terminator 2 has better CGI then any of the Spider-man movies. And Matrix, while an AMAZING FILM, has some CGI parts that are outdated as well, but so does Spider-man so I kind of see your point... However, even today, Jurassic Park has some of the best Special Effects I've seen... That movie blows me away.

You can do a lot with a low budget, HOWEVER, you need TIME to do it, and TIME is something that Webb does not have. One of the reasons why Lord of the Rings was so groundbreaking was because they spent seven years straight just working on CGI. Also, WETA is ran by Peter Jackson, so he can use it however he likes, while someone who doesn't own their own Special Effects company has to pay high price for CGI shots.

[matrix_ghost]

First of all, this 80 million budget story is most likely BS. It´s not even big enough for a Sherlock Holmes movie these days. Sony reportedly wanted to spend 200m on the next Spidey movie. It´s still their flagship franchise, they won´t pull stops on it.

I can´t comment on Webb´s film directing - haven´t seen 500 Days Of Summer yet- but I´m happy they went with the same tradition as a Chris Nolan or a Pete Jackson, a director who comes to big budget blockbusters with an indie filmmaking sensibility, instead of some action hack who just knows to shoot explosions,.


Exactly.
Each spidey movie has made over 300 million in the states alone .
And 'people forgot that its not the stars that make audiences want to see the movie , it's the name of the character. Spider-man
And you don't make a 80 million psider-man with half assed VFX

Plus considering that the studio has a script and a director , i think we'll see them finalising a cast very soon. Sony is seriously considering to shoot this movie in 3-d . Its still a question if sony is going to shoot the entire movie in stereoscopic 3d ( which i what i prefer) or convert the entire movie in 3d ( which IMO isn't the smart thing to do) however either way it's going to take longer hence why they need to start shooting this year .
Shooting a movie in stereo means that images need to created twice ( for the right and left eye) whereas conversions also take up time.

[rocco2216]

First of all, this 80 million budget story is most likely BS. It´s not even big enough for a Sherlock Holmes movie these days. Sony reportedly wanted to spend 200m on the next Spidey movie. It´s still their flagship franchise, they won´t pull stops on it. They´re already saving money by getting a newcomer director and most likely unknown actors so they can spend more on FX and stuff.

I can´t comment on Webb´s film directing - haven´t seen 500 Days Of Summer yet- but I´m happy they went with the same tradition as a Chris Nolan or a Pete Jackson, a director who comes to big budget blockbusters with an indie filmmaking sensibility, instead of some action hack who just knows to shoot explosions,.

Sherlock Holmes's budget was 80 million though

[dark_b]

i understand that with greenscreen and really a small director you can saev money. but 80 millions? i think not even 100 millions is enough to make a movie that will be on the same level like Spiderman 2 . i am talking about the scope. not the quality of realism.

[craigdbfan]

In this day in age both have to be up to par if you want to make close to a billion in the BO.

Thats why the $80 million is absolutely stupid. It will not work.

$150 in the least for rebooted Spider-Man. He is still incredibly popular and worth a lot to Sony.

I can't see why they'd go to $80 mil. It doesn't make any sense.

Hopefully that report is complete bogus.