Super Bowl XLIV: The Saints go marchin' in!

[redfirebird2008]

I do have a question for you Matt. Explain why a recent poll of NFL Hall of Fame QB's found that most of them felt Manning is better than Brady? Before you mention the media, just remember that these QB's have far more knowledge of how to play QB than the media pundits or any of us. They do not need the media to tell them what to think on such matters. So why is it that they sided with Manning? Cuz it ain't just about the rings, no matter how much you keep saying it. It ain't even about the stats either. He has effectively become the Colts' OC over time. He's the one calling the shots. The only reason that old fart OC is even around anymore is to help run the practices. Manning is the one calling the shots during the game. You were making fun of Caldwell for this earlier, so surely you will admit that it's pretty impressive for a QB to have enough knowledge to be an OC on the field with no running game when the entire league is trying their damndest to shut you down and has been for years. The stats can be thrown out as far as I am concerned. His intelligence and knowledge is what is the most impressive to me.

[Matt]

I would rank them like this.


Montana
Unitas
Bradshaw
Elway
Brady

I dunno. I see Unitas as part of the old guard. There is modern NFL and there is old school NFL. Unitas is kinda inbetween the two categories so I don't really consider him in my top five as he's kinda in a limbo. Then again, one could argue that he really created the modern quarterback so I can see how the argument is made for him.

[Dr. Evil]

Does NFL Network still do that America's Game series?

[Matt]

I do have a question for you Matt. Explain why a recent poll of NFL Hall of Fame QB's found that most of them felt Manning is better than Brady? Before you mention the media, just remember that these QB's have far more knowledge of how to play QB than the media pundits or any of us. They do not need the media to tell them what to think on such matters. So why is it that they sided with Manning? Cuz it ain't just about the rings, no matter how much you keep saying it. It ain't even about the stats either. He has effectively become the Colts' OC over time. He's the one calling the shots. The only reason that old fart OC is even around anymore is to help run the practices. Manning is the one calling the shots during the game. You were making fun of Caldwell for this earlier, so surely you will admit that it's pretty impressive for a QB to have enough knowledge to be an OC on the field with no running game when the entire league is trying their damndest to shut you down and has been for years. The stats can be thrown out as far as I am concerned. His intelligence and knowledge is what is the most impressive to me.

I don't know why they voted the way they do. I admit, he's an impressive player, just not top five because in the end, he just can't win when it counts (unless of course its against a Rex Grossman led Bears). Manning does know the game better. He has better stats, but in my opinion, Brady is the better quarterback because even when things get tough, Brady can still lead his team to victory.

[Dark Donnie]

Bradshaw isn't in my top 7. Won a bunch of rings with arguably the best defense ever. Manning trumps his numbers as do most.

Elway
Montana
Marino
Unitas
Peyton
Brady

[redfirebird2008]

Brady is the better quarterback because even when things get tough, Brady can still lead his team to victory.

Except when he fumbles the ball and has the refs bail him out. :cwink:

[Matt]

But Bradshaw was able to win. You're putting more value on statistics and numbers than winning the game itself. If you play to win, shouldn't winning be what determines the best?

[Matt]

Except when he fumbles the ball and has the refs bail him out. :cwink:

The same can be said for Manning on many occassions.

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't know why they voted the way they do. I admit, he's an impressive player, just not top five because in the end, he just can't win when it counts (unless of course its against a Rex Grossman led Bears). Manning does know the game better. He has better stats, but in my opinion, Brady is the better quarterback because even when things get tough, Brady can still lead his team to victory.


Also, Manning played two 9-7 teams on his way to the Super Bowl this season.

[redfirebird2008]

But Bradshaw was able to win. You're putting more value on statistics and numbers than winning the game itself. If you play to win, shouldn't winning be what determines the best?

Winning a team game is not the same as winning an individual sport. You can easily say that Manning has more knowledge of how to play QB and run an offense than just about any other QB in history. He may be a choker under pressure, but that doesn't take away from his knowledge. I suppose it depends on how you look at it. To me, "greatest" is reserved for winning while "best" is strictly an evaluation of skill. Tiger Woods is probably the best to ever pick up a golf club but he's not the greatest until he wins the most major championships. People were saying the same thing about Roger Federer until he won the most Grand Slam events. I think you can easily apply the same thing to positions in any team sport. Oscar Robertson only won 1 title, but he is absolutely one of the best ever at his position.

[Dark Donnie]

But Bradshaw was able to win. You're putting more value on statistics and numbers than winning the game itself. If you play to win, shouldn't winning be what determines the best?

But every situation is different. IF Manning played with the best defense ever I'd be willing to bet he have more then one Superbowl right now.

Guys like Bradshaw and Aikman have a ton of rings but I don't think they're in the same class as Peyton.

[Excel]

That pick 6 was GLORI-****ING-OUS!!!

GLORIOUS I SAY, GLORIOUS!!!

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http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/68/fullj.7861370ea6e2add90b6133eeea9bbd8d/7861370ea6e2add90b6133eeea9bbd8d-getty-87869178ml304_super_bowl_xl.jpg

You'll never be as good as Tommy, sorry buddy. No more Marvin = safety net!

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat sucks!

Congrats to the saints! Da Aints....WHO DAT??

[Holiday]

Holiday! Wondered where you were all night...guess that answers my question of where the buffet went.

I tried saving you some Rocky Road...

Yeah, it didn't last. :o

Usually they make quick rounds of hand shakes. Warner did it last year. A few Colts did it this year. Manning was being a poor sport. Funny how when Belichick does it everyone gives him hell but when the golden boy does it, its alright.


I've seen Brady walk off the field without shaking the other team's hands after a loss, but I don't hear any b****ing about that.

[Dr. Evil]

Elway would not be in the discussion of the greatest Super Bowl QB's of all time if he did not win two towards the end of his career.

I remember that Super Bowl fondly. I picked Denver to win because I wanted to see Elway finally win one. Also remembered Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen say "This One's for John!"

[Dark Donnie]

Elway threw for over 51000 Yards and 300 Tds....he's go down as one of the best no matter what.

[Marx]

That pick 6 was GLORI-****ING-OUS!!!

GLORIOUS I SAY, GLORIOUS!!!

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100208/capt.sb43002080249.super_bowl_football_sb430.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/68/fullj.7861370ea6e2add90b6133eeea9bbd8d/7861370ea6e2add90b6133eeea9bbd8d-getty-87869178ml304_super_bowl_xl.jpg

You'll never be as good as Tommy, sorry buddy. No more Marvin = safety net!

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat sucks!

Congrats to the saints! Da Aints....WHO DAT??

You REALLY need to pick a side and stick with it. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/th_redface.gif

[Excel]

How is Tom Brady not number 1? He has won 3 super bowls, and had the greatest statistical season ever when he finally got some real talent around him, like the other guys mentioned-Montana, Manning, ect.-always had.

Brady is numero uno. He is the LeBron of NFL. Wherever Tom plays for the rest fo his life will be considered a super bowl contender.

[Excel]

You REALLY need to pick a side and stick with it. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/th_redface.gif

I have a side...I am Pariots fan...so I am sure you know my feelings about Peyton and co. over in Indy. I dont remember voting for Colts...but I never, EVER thought they would win this game. They actually played better than I was expecting, but yeah.

[NewYorkSpider]

How is Tom Brady not number 1? He has won 3 super bowls, and had the greatest statistical season ever when he finally got some real talent around him, like the other guys mentioned-Montana, Manning, ect.-always had.

Brady is numero uno. He is the LeBron of NFL. Wherever Tom plays for the rest fo his life will be considered a super bowl contender.


Brady is moving his way up. His career isn't over with yet.

[Dr. Evil]

Oh yeah, nice to see Darren Sharper finally get a ring.

[Marx]

I have a side...I am Pariots fan...so I am sure you know my feelings about Peyton and co. over in Indy. I dont remember voting for Colts...but I never, EVER thought they would win this game. They actually played better than I was expecting, but yeah.

Well...you did vote for the Colts to win.

[Excel]

I think this is karma for the STs giving up on the perfect season.

[redfirebird2008]

How is Tom Brady not number 1? He has won 3 super bowls, and had the greatest statistical season ever when he finally got some real talent around him, like the other guys mentioned-Montana, Manning, ect.-always had.

Brady is numero uno. He is the LeBron of NFL. Wherever Tom plays for the rest fo his life will be considered a super bowl contender.

Which is why he fell flat on his face without Wes Welker this year. Welker is a BAMF and highly underrated.

[Dark Donnie]

Lmao at Brady being the LeBron James of the NFL

[Hunter Rider]

How is Tom Brady not number 1? He has won 3 super bowls, and had the greatest statistical season ever when he finally got some real talent around him, like the other guys mentioned-Montana, Manning, ect.-always had.

Brady is numero uno. He is the LeBron of NFL. Wherever Tom plays for the rest fo his life will be considered a super bowl contender.

Wouldn't that make him Jordan?

[Dr. Evil]

Michael Wilbon of ESPN called LeBron James "The Peyton Manning of the NBA."

[Dark Donnie]

Michael Wilbon of ESPN called LeBron James "The Peyton Manning of the NBA."

:hehe: Must have been what Excel meant.

[FaT_tONle]

**** this Saints love fest... Cowboys beat them in their building. Seriously this was probably the best season Cowboys could have had from a fan perspective other than winning the SB. It would have sucked losing in the SB or NFC title game in the fashion the Vikings lost.

I can't imagine how loud the Superdome is going to be when the Saints have their season opener.

Here is the pool (Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Minnesota)

PLEASE don't take boring ass Matt Ryan NFL. I'd take Pittsburg. Past two SB winners. Would feel like a SB sequel, rather than an opener. Minnesota if Farve is playing.

[Matt]

You REALLY need to pick a side and stick with it. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/smilies/th_redface.gif

Says the part time Colt, part time Bengals fan. :oldrazz:

I'm sorry Marxie, I couldn't resist. :heart:

Wouldn't that make him Jordan?

:hehe:

[Excel]

Lmao at Brady being the LeBron James of the NFL

Yeah. Poor comparison. IDK who he compares to....but its someone really good.


Which is why he fell flat on his face without Wes Welker this year.

Thats not true at all. Welkers role is almost entirely dependent on Randy Moss's presence on the field. The mismatches from the double coverage let Welker get covered by a linebacker any time hs runs a short route...aka every time he runs a route...the secondary is usually so far off that its as if they give Welker catch.

Problem for Welker is, when they get in the red zone, and the defense doesnt back of Moss anymore, Welker doesnt get open and is useless (hence his 5 touchdowns over the past 32 games).

Moss makes the offense click. If he ever misses the game they will be a completely different team. Wes wont be getting at will, our running game would be even worse than it usualyl is...I dont even wanna think about it.

I love Wes-literally-but theres so much talk of how "underrated" he is that he is becoming "overrated".

Bradys poor play without Welker was all on Brady...airmailing Moss open deep a half dozen times vs. Atlanta has nothing to do with Welker.

Brady was just rusty on his middle-to-long passes this season.

Wouldn't that make him Jordan?

Idk, I dont think Brady fits the Jordan comparison, they have different impacts. In the regular season, Peyton is Jordan. Jordan didnt win **** by himself.

[redfirebird2008]

**** this Saints love fest... Cowboys beat them in their building. Seriously this was probably the best season Cowboys could have had from a fan perspective other than winning the SB. It would have sucked losing in the SB or NFC title game in the fashion the Vikings lost.



Here is the pool (Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Minnesota)

PLEASE don't take boring ass Matt Ryan NFL. I'd take Pittsburg. Past two SB winners. Would feel like a SB sequel, rather than an opener. Minnesota if Farve is playing.


Cowboys spend more money than anyone and still choke. Must suck to be one of their fans. :hehe:

It's kind of cool to not really have much of an affiliation to any NFL team. I just enjoy watching the games each week. It's also amusing to watch the car crashes when fanbases blow up after a loss. I know the feeling though. I am a diehard alumnus and fan of Texas Tech University. We've choked and had our fair share of meltdowns over the years. In fact it's pretty much all we've known. :csad: :hehe:

[NewYorkSpider]

**** this Saints love fest... Cowboys beat them in their building. Seriously this was probably the best season Cowboys could have had from a fan perspective other than winning the SB. It would have sucked losing in the SB or NFC title game in the fashion the Vikings lost.



Here is the pool (Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Seattle, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Minnesota)

PLEASE don't take boring ass Matt Ryan NFL. I'd take Pittsburg. Past two SB winners. Would feel like a SB sequel, rather than an opener. Minnesota if Farve is playing.


I don't see anything wrong with Matt Ryan. :huh: I do agree with you that a game against Pittsburgh or Minnesota(If Favre is playing) would be the best route to take. I personally would like to see Carolina play in the opener since I'm a fan of them.

[Matt]

**** this Saints love fest... Cowboys beat them in their building.

Dallas beat them in a regular season game that meant nothing to the Saints. You showed them.

Seriously this was probably the best season Cowboys could have had from a fan perspective other than winning the SB. It would have sucked losing in the SB or NFC title game in the fashion the Vikings lost.


Really? Wow, you guys have some low expectations. Hurry up and run Jerry out of town so you guys can cease being jokes who can't even be called a shadow of your former selves.

[Marx]

Says the part time Colt, part time Bengals fan. :oldrazz:

I'm sorry Marxie, I couldn't resist. :heart:



I thought I'd explained this before. I have always been a Colts fan. The Bengals just happen to be the home town team.

[Matt]

Well maybe the Patriots are Excel's team, but the Saints are his jump on the bandwagon cause they won the Super Bowl team ;)

[Excel]

Dallas needs a new quarterback...and should have kept Terrell Owens. Jerry Jones is fine, hell so is Wade Phillips.

Romo is just way too inconisstent. Its amazing how good Dallas looks when Romo plays well..and how bad they look when he sucks.

And Romo has zero chem with Roy Williams, and Miles Austin had most over achieving season in NFL history.

New QB. Get TO Back. Than theyd be fine. That 2007 was N.A.S.T.Y.

[FaT_tONle]

Cowboys spend more money than anyone and still choke. Must suck to be one of their fans. :hehe:

It's kind of cool to not really have much of an affiliation to any NFL team. I just enjoy watching the games each week. It's also amusing to watch the car crashes when fanbases blow up after a loss. I know the feeling though. I am a diehard alumnus and fan of Texas Tech University. We've choked and had our fair share of meltdowns over the years. In fact it's pretty much all we've known. :csad: :hehe:

Now we are the Yankees? I mean there is a salary cap. If we spend more it's probably a few million.

[Matt]

Dallas needs a new quarterback...and should have kept Terrell Owens. Jerry Jones is fine, hell so is Wade Phillips.

Romo is just way too inconisstent. Its amazing how good Dallas looks when Romo plays well..and how bad they look when he sucks.

And Romo has zero chem with Roy Williams, and Miles Austin had most over achieving season in NFL history.

New QB. Get TO Back. Than theyd be fine. That 2007 was N.A.S.T.Y.

Philips is a glorified yes man and as tonight has proven, those types of coaches seldom succeed. As for Jones, he's not fine. He'd be fine if he were just an owner. If he acted more like the Rooney family and realized he is not a GM an allowed the people who actually know what their doing to run his team, he'd be fine. But he doesn't. He continues to micromanage every aspect and until he stops or sells the team, they won't be winning.

[Excel]

Well maybe the Patriots are Excel's team, but the Saints are his jump on the bandwagon cause they won the Super Bowl team ;)

I could give a **** less about the Saints...I DO, however, care about the Colts...LOSING...so yeah, atm the Saints are my team because it was either the Saints, or...yeah, you get the point.

Patriots for life brosef :up: :up:

http://media.masslive.com/sports_impact/photo/tom-brady-randy-moss-practice-24eb819d7d8a6c75_medium.jpg
Randy:Just chuck it there dawg, man homeboy you and I we SOOOO GOOOOOOOODDDDDD
Tom: Haha Yeah. I know.

[Excel]

Philips is a glorified yes man and as tonight has proven, those types of coaches seldom succeed. As for Jones, he's not fine. He'd be fine if he were just an owner. If he acted more like the Rooney family and realized he is not a GM an allowed the people who actually know what their doing to run his team, he'd be fine. But he doesn't. He continues to micromanage every aspect and until he stops or sells the team, they won't be winning.

Though I agree, I prefer coaches with alls who dont like pussies, I dont think Wade is that bad. And honestly, Jones was right about the only major issue regarding the team the past few years, and that was T.O.

The folks down there underestimate the impact of the elite wr has, and what the home run hitter at wide out does to dictate defenses. Jones was right in supporting Terrell Owens last season; his only problem was listening to the people around him and letting him go.

They wanna know why Witten was so good in 2006 and 2007; it was because defenses BACK THE **** OFF when Owens is on the field. When Romo ignored Owens in 2008, they moved in...and owned Romo and his boy Jwit.

He is not Al Davis.

[FaT_tONle]

Dallas needs a new quarterback...and should have kept Terrell Owens. Jerry Jones is fine, hell so is Wade Phillips.

Romo is just way too inconisstent. Its amazing how good Dallas looks when Romo plays well..and how bad they look when he sucks.

And Romo has zero chem with Roy Williams, and Miles Austin had most over achieving season in NFL history.

New QB. Get TO Back. Than theyd be fine. That 2007 was N.A.S.T.Y.

I think Wade has done a pretty decent job. Defense keeps getting better. It's Garret and the O-line and Romo's erratic play. I think we will make a run next year. I think the dominance will start shifting back to the NFC. AFC has barely been squeaking by in these SB's anyhow, if not losing outright.

[Matt]

He's just as bad. Jones got one right. Throw enough **** at the wall, something'll stick. Plus one cannot underestimate the negative influence TO had on the locker room. There is no reason to keep around a grumpy old man who causes trouble when focusing on the future.

As for Wade, he's a fine defensive coach, I think he'd make a great DC. But he's not HC material.

[Dark Donnie]

Yeah. Poor comparison. IDK who he compares to....but its someone really good.


Oh he's really good...but I don't think he's the best in the league right now.

[bgates87]

Philips is a glorified yes man and as tonight has proven, those types of coaches seldom succeed. As for Jones, he's not fine. He'd be fine if he were just an owner. If he acted more like the Rooney family and realized he is not a GM an allowed the people who actually know what their doing to run his team, he'd be fine. But he doesn't. He continues to micromanage every aspect and until he stops or sells the team, they won't be winning.
I agree Jerry is too involved in the Team operations and I don't really like his attitude either but he at least seems to have the Cowboys' best interests in mind. It could be worse, they could be the Raiders. I'm pretty sure Raiders fans are planning an Al Davis assassination as we speak.

[Excel]

Plus one cannot underestimate the negative influence TO had on the locker room. There is no reason to keep around a grumpy old man who causes trouble when focusing on the future

You're missing the point, like most down in Dallas did, and that is the thing they missed in 2008 and 2009 that they understood in 2007.

When Terrell Owens is fed the ball-when the play calling, game plan, ect -center AROUND HIM, two things almost ALWAYS happen.

1. His team scores a lot of points. It is just a simple fact. Undeniable. 2007 cowboys. 2004 Eagles. Best years in San Fran.
2. He is happy. T.O. cried for Tony Romo in 2007.

Folks can say whatever they want about it-dont feed him the ball, it only feeds his ego, he is undeserving, ect. The only thing that matters is winning. The elite wr is THE most valuable position in NFL outside of the *proven* franchise quarterback. T.O. is one of those. Not making him the focal point of that offense in 2008 is what lead to the teams failure, point blank. Not anything else. Nothing.

In 2008, Tony Romo personally stopped feeding Owens the ball, and zeroed in on Jason Witten. And the team acts surprised when their once mighty offenses collapses. Its pathetic. Yeah, Owens handled his busines in the past poorly, and that bit him in the ass in 2008 when his perfectly acceptable actions were spun by the media as "negative influence".

But theyre missing the point.

The so called "negative influence" will not appear AS LONG HE IS GETTING THE BALL...and as long as he is getting the ball...L's wont be appearing in the standing charts either.

That means they should have got him the ****ing ball. Jerry Jones understood this...problem for Dallas is fans nobody else there seemed to outside of T.O. himself.

[FaT_tONle]

Anyone know where I can get the post game video... NFL.com is completely down with their vids?

[Wolfwood]

I was never a big sports guy, but I became a fan of the Saints today for one simple reason: They were the first team that I bet on, that actually came through for me. After years of losing, I finally backed a winner. What did I win? A cute girl is cooking me a steak and shrimp dinner. Thank-you Saints. :D

[KBX]

Looks like the Hearts beat the Heads tonight. :D


You can easily run on the Saints D, but their pretty good at defending the pass. Ive seen a couple of Saints game this year, and their D usually has guys walking around the scrimage get ready to blitz, they didn't do too much on 1 and 2 downs, since they were worried about Adrian Peterson. Now against the Colts, they are able to do what is the strength of that team.

Trust me, all week we will be hearing how great Peyton is going to play, and he usual plays great, in his dome.

Or the Hearts and the Heads were the same group of people??? :woot:

WHO DAT!!! WHO DAT SAY GOMIN BEAT THEM SAINTS!!!


....not a damn team....

[Venom'sDad]

You're missing the point, like most down in Dallas did, and that is the thing they missed in 2008 and 2009 that they understood in 2007.

When Terrell Owens is fed the ball-when the play calling, game plan, ect -center AROUND HIM, two things almost ALWAYS happen.

1. His team scores a lot of points. It is just a simple fact. Undeniable. 2007 cowboys. 2004 Eagles. Best years in San Fran.
2. He is happy. T.O. cried for Tony Romo in 2007.

Folks can say whatever they want about it-dont feed him the ball, it only feeds his ego, he is undeserving, ect. The only thing that matters is winning. The elite wr is THE most valuable position in NFL outside of the *proven* franchise quarterback. T.O. is one of those. Not making him the focal point of that offense in 2008 is what lead to the teams failure, point blank. Not anything else. Nothing.

In 2008, Tony Romo personally stopped feeding Owens the ball, and zeroed in on Jason Witten. And the team acts surprised when their once mighty offenses collapses. Its pathetic. Yeah, Owens handled his busines in the past poorly, and that bit him in the ass in 2008 when his perfectly acceptable actions were spun by the media as "negative influence".

But theyre missing the point.

The so called "negative influence" will not appear AS LONG HE IS GETTING THE BALL...and as long as he is getting the ball...L's wont be appearing in the standing charts either.

That means they should have got him the ****ing ball. Jerry Jones understood this...problem for Dallas is fans nobody else there seemed to outside of T.O. himself.

Exactly... great point, post, and observation Excel.Totally agree and couldn't have said it better. :up::up::up:



Congradulation Saints fans and the city of New Orleans! :applaud:applaud:applaud

[Bad Superman]

I was never a big sports guy, but I became a fan of the Saints today for one simple reason: They were the first team that I bet on, that actually came through for me. After years of losing, I finally backed a winner. What did I win? A cute girl is cooking me a steak and shrimp dinner. Thank-you Saints. :D

:woot: :up: I won a $250 bet and a bottle of wine. I admit I was a bit concerned at the end of the first half.



Congradulation Saints fans and the city of New Orleans! :applaud:applaud:applaud

Yeeeeeeehhhhh!!!! :cmad::up::up:

[BlackLantern]

TO is in Buffalo and it has nothing to do with his talent

[Gmanofsteel]

You'll never be as good as Tommy, sorry buddy. No more Marvin = safety net!


Yeah, cause Tommy never blew a game by throwing an interception....

oh wait...

:rolleyes:




I've seen Brady walk off the field without shaking the other team's hands after a loss, but I don't hear any b****ing about that.

In fact, that is EXACTLY what he did in the Superbowl loss to the Giants.

[Addendum]

Hand shakes are over-rated

[BlackLantern]

I really don't care either way, I think the coaches should at least meet face to face but other than that, im meh about it

[That-Guy]

Bradshaw isn't in my top 7. Won a bunch of rings with arguably the best defense ever. Manning trumps his numbers as do most.

Elway
Montana
Marino
Unitas
Peyton
Brady

Watch this video and try to tell me that Bradshaw isn't every bit as good as those guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U1Xtci4PBw

[Venom Jr.]

Wow Reggie Wayne messed up big time, with that TD they could have had a chance at winning. Meh, Superbowl was a let down this year. The Who sounded like crap, and there was not that many funny commercials.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, The Who really did sound awful. I'm not a big fan of theirs, but they are rock legends so I thought it was a good choice for a halftime show... but man, did they ever let me down. The arragement was really strange too. If you're going to do a montage of your popular songs, at least have better transitions between them. It sounded like somebody suddenly changing a radio station.

[Matt]

So, did anyone else find Caldwell's coaching to be atrocious? I get that he is little more than Manning's puppet, but still. The man has absolutely no balls as a head coach. Peyton Manning had a full two minutes on the clock and two time outs at the end of the first half, and Caldwell calls three, up the middle runs in an attempt to burn the clock out. I get that they were deep in their own territory, but hell, Manning led a 95 yard drive the quarter before. Plus they were out of safety risk after the first run. His conservative play calling enabled the Saints to get great field position and get that second field goal which completely changed the momentumn. Imagine how dejected the Saints would've been, going into the half, if the Colts had just scored. Caldwell coached like a coward and I think that had a big impact.

[Addendum]

I was too busy enjoying the game to ***** about a coach.

[Immortalfire]

So, did anyone else find Caldwell's coaching to be atrocious? I get that he is little more than Manning's puppet, but still. The man has absolutely no balls as a head coach. Peyton Manning had a full two minutes on the clock and two time outs at the end of the first half, and Caldwell calls three, up the middle runs in an attempt to burn the clock out. I get that they were deep in their own territory, but hell, Manning led a 95 yard drive the quarter before. Plus they were out of safety risk after the first run. His conservative play calling enabled the Saints to get great field position and get that second field goal which completely changed the momentumn. Imagine how dejected the Saints would've been, going into the half, if the Colts had just scored. Caldwell coached like a coward and I think that had a big impact.

That's about the fifth time you've said Caldwell isn't really a coach.

[Matt]

Yet not too busy to act like a troll, I see..

[Matt]

That's about the fifth time you've said Caldwell isn't really a coach.

Thats because he's not a coach! Whoopie in the movie...****, I forget its name, the one where she coaches the Knicks is more of a coach than him! :argh:

[Immortalfire]

Eddie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116168/)

[Matt]

Eddie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116168/)

That's it! God, that was terrible. And is it me or is Dennis Farina always the guy who plays the coach that gets fired in crappy sports movies?

[Go Web Go!]

Good for the Saints. Always refreshing to see an underdog team that's never won come out on top, especially in this case with all that the city of NO has been through. Now, can we cease talks about how Manning is the greatest thing since sliced bread? Not with a 9-9 postseason record, he's not. Oh, and while I'm here, can all you pseudo-celebs and tourists please shuffle out of my city in an orderly fashion as soon as possible? It's getting a little stuffy down here.

[That-Guy]

Thats because he's not a coach! Whoopie in the movie...****, I forget its name, the one where she coaches the Knicks is more of a coach than him! :argh:

:lmao:

I agree, Caldwell didn't coach well. But I'm GLAD he didn't, because I wanted to see the Saints win.

Plus, after reading about Manning's mooning/defamation incident and his financial contributions to Bush, I kinda hate him now. Thanks for pointing that out, Matt... I never knew about that before.

[Matt]

9-9 isn't the real statistic of interest when it comes to Manning. The one that is really shocking is that for the so called, "greatest of all time," he's thrown 18 interceptions in his 18 post season games.

[Matt]

:lmao:

I agree, Caldwell didn't coach well. But I'm GLAD he didn't, because I wanted to see the Saints win.

Plus, after reading about Manning's mooning/defamation incident and his financial contributions to Bush, I kinda hate him now. Thanks for pointing that out, Matt... I never knew about that before.

You all called me crazy! Crazy I tells ya! But I was right! Riiiiight! :pal:

[Raiden]

I'm very happy for the Saints to win their first-ever Super Bowl victory. I had predicted Colts to win, but I also said that I wish Saints win it all and I'm glad to be wrong in my prediction. With a 9-9 postseason record, Peyton showed that he is really not as amazing as the football pundits wanted you to believe, and I hope this loss will douse some of the Manning-mania that the media has been touting us for the past 2 weeks.

[Addendum]

Yet not too busy to act like a troll, I see..
Just because you asked a question doesn't mean you have to only get answers you like.

[Immortalfire]

Yo..for those of you that are in or close to a city that has hosted the Super Bowl, have you ever gone and actually gotten into the game?

[Addendum]

Is 400 miles considered close? Cause there've been several in New Orleans and I never thought about driving down I-55 to join the circus.

[Erzengel]

It was a good Superbowl but I don't rank them anywhere near the past 2.

What I didn't like was most of the media, almost trying to make me feel bad for rooting for the Colts instead of the Saints because of Katrina.

I am happy for New Orleans to win something for their city.

But Shockey is still an a'hole.

[Mister J]

I make sure I'm as far away from that hubbub as possible. There's no way I want to be near any of that ****. Same thing for the MTV Awards or any other comparable celluloid-laden spectacle.

Like GWG said, GTFO. Appreciate the economy boost, now scram.

Stop smiling, it's not a joke. The party's over. Get out. :awesome:

[BlackLantern]

I make sure I'm as far away from that hubbub as possible. There's no way I want to be near any of that ****. Same thing for the MTV Awards or any other comparable celluloid-laden spectacle.

Like GWG said, GTFO. Appreciate the economy boost, now scram.

Stop smiling, it's not a joke. The party's over. Get out. :awesome:

lol...kinda how San Diego feels around Day 2 of Comic Con

[Go Web Go!]

Yo..for those of you that are in or close to a city that has hosted the Super Bowl, have you ever gone and actually gotten into the game?

Never been to a SB, but I've been smack dab in the middle of the goings on leading up to the game.

[Kelly]

Me too, a few years ago here in Houston. HATED IT....

[Ghostvirus]

It was a good Superbowl but I don't rank them anywhere near the past 2.

What I didn't like was most of the media, almost trying to make me feel bad for rooting for the Colts instead of the Saints because of Katrina.

I am happy for New Orleans to win something for their city.

But Shockey is still an a'hole.

The thing that I don't get it I seriously doubt that any of this money will go to the victims of Katrina. So in about 3 weeks. Everything will be back to exactly the way it was.

To only people this is good for is the NFL, & the Saints.

[Dr. Evil]

If the Super Bowl had been on NBC this year and CBS last year, every commercial break would have basically been NBC using the Super Bowl to promote the 2010 Winter Olympics.

[Erzengel]

The thing that I don't get it I seriously doubt that any of this money will go to the victims of Katrina. So in about 3 weeks. Everything will be back to exactly the way it was.

To only people this is good for is the NFL, & the Saints.
That would have been hysterical if millions would have been donated to those still affected from Katrina CONTINGENT on the Saints winning. :hehe:

[Darthphere]

Yo..for those of you that are in or close to a city that has hosted the Super Bowl, have you ever gone and actually gotten into the game?

No. That **** is for the tourists, the locals just get annoyed by all the strange people in our city.

[NewYorkSpider]

Last nights Super Bowl was the most watched televison program in history. It surpasses the series finale of M*A*S*H.

[Kane52630]

Last nights Super Bowl was the most watched televison program in history. It surpasses the series finale of M*A*S*H.

:wow: really?

[NewYorkSpider]

That's what ESPN just reported.

[BlackLantern]

highest rated Super Bowl for CBS in 20 years as well

[Immortalfire]

Last nights Super Bowl was the most watched televison program in history. It surpasses the series finale of M*A*S*H.
No. Way. :wow:

[NewYorkSpider]

Here's the article.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_en_tv/us_super_bowl_ratings_9)

[Immortalfire]

Never thought I'd see the day

[Raiden]

Here's the article.

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_en_tv/us_super_bowl_ratings_9)

I guess everyone wants to see the Saints finally won that big one, eh?

[Mister J]

Surprising, but good, news about the viewership. Didn't see that coming, even with last year's game having the previous record.

Maybe the relevant braintrust will get over themselves and get rid of this looming cloud of a potential lockout.

[That-Guy]

Surprising, but good, news about the viewership. Didn't see that coming, even with last year's game having the previous record.

Maybe the relevant braintrust will get over themselves and get rid of this looming cloud of a potential lockout.

They could always just use replacement players.

Keanu Reeves and Orlando Jones don't have a lot going on right now, do they? :hehe:

[Excel]

Last nights Super Bowl was the most watched televison program in history. It surpasses the series finale of M*A*S*H.

This is how you know there will be no lock out, NFL popularity just continues to explode.

People were shocked when last years game beat the Pats Giants game...and now it gets topped again.

[BlackLantern]

and this makes Payton and Brees made men in NO now...Sean Payton could kill a hooker during the parade tomorrow and no one would care...they would just cover her in beads

[kane9321]

who dat who dat

[NewYorkSpider]

Bradshaw isn't in my top 7. Won a bunch of rings with arguably the best defense ever. Manning trumps his numbers as do most.

Elway
Montana
Marino
Unitas
Peyton
Brady


People don't give Terry Bradshaw the respect he deserves. He was the 1978 NFL MVP and won 2 Super Bowl MVP's. The Steelers won Super Bowl XIII 35-31, so the defense didn't come into play there. Bradshaw threw 4 TD's during that game. Super Bowl 14 he threw for over 300yds and 2 TD's and won 31-19. So, IMO, Bradshaw is a top 5 quarterback.

[Marx]

Last nights Super Bowl was the most watched televison program in history. It surpasses the series finale of M*A*S*H.

Now THAT'S impressive!

[Mister J]

I thought I'd gotten over the whole Brees/Culpepper fiasco. But now Brees has a ring that he won on our home turf, Saban went undefeated after snaking us … give me a reason why I shouldn't jump off the Biscayne bridge.
-- Rick, MiamiI'm glad to know I'm not the only Dolphins fan to have a similar thought process after the hoopla died down. Of course, I wouldn't entertain jumping off a bridge (I mean too much to too many people ...most importantly, me). However, I did have a particularly rousing and extended profane diatribe, in which I addressed Nick Saban, Daunte Culpepper, Randy Mueller and several members of their families. No, I don't feel any better.

****.

[Raiden]

I'm glad to know I'm not the only Dolphins fan to have a similar thought process after the hoopla died down. Of course, I wouldn't entertain jumping off a bridge (I mean too much to too many people ...most importantly, me). However, I did have a particularly rousing and extended profane diatribe, in which I addressed Nick Saban, Daunte Culpepper, Randy Mueller and several members of their families. No, I don't feel any better.

****.

I'm sure Saints' winning their first SB (on the back of MVP Brees) does sting alot. I for one thought that Brees (even after letting go by the Chargers) would've made an excellent QB with the Jets as well, even though they had Pennington (who was injury-prone and now likely out of NFL). Too bad Jets never went for it. If Brees had the #1 defense & running offensive of the Jets today, he might've represent the AFC in the SB this year as well.

[KBX]

So, did anyone else find Caldwell's coaching to be atrocious? I get that he is little more than Manning's puppet, but still. The man has absolutely no balls as a head coach. Peyton Manning had a full two minutes on the clock and two time outs at the end of the first half, and Caldwell calls three, up the middle runs in an attempt to burn the clock out. I get that they were deep in their own territory, but hell, Manning led a 95 yard drive the quarter before. Plus they were out of safety risk after the first run. His conservative play calling enabled the Saints to get great field position and get that second field goal which completely changed the momentumn. Imagine how dejected the Saints would've been, going into the half, if the Colts had just scored. Caldwell coached like a coward and I think that had a big impact.

Caldwell must have known the Colts needed to score more than 10 points to win the game. I think he just assumed that they where going to get the ball first in the 2nd half(which blew up in his face) and Peyton would just score again. Think the game might be out of reach. Oh and Drew Brees could not be stopped.

The Saints had the best offense in football, not the Colts. Yeah I get why the media loves Peyton so much, but he is one player. He still needs other players to step up, and no one did. Not their defense, not their special teams, not Wayne not Garcon, only player who had a good game was Clark and Addai(which Im sure the saints had no problem given up yards to).

The saints played to win, the colts played not to lose.

[SurfDUI]

BRUTAL...Thems the brakes. Not the worst COLTS beat, but they nearly had it...Sean Peyton threw a wrench on the well oiled machine. That onside threw it all off, N.O. had the momentum after the half, and then...

18 fell apart.

EXCELLENT season, but it stings, SB runner up was bound to happen.

Congrats Drew Brees. I can't stomach all the Saints love fest, but losing to that group isn't a bad beat IMO. Good game.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p317/SurfDUI/2010-02-08190209-1.jpg

[Addendum]

Holy ****! You're alive

[That-Guy]

People don't give Terry Bradshaw the respect he deserves. He was the 1978 NFL MVP and won 2 Super Bowl MVP's. The Steelers won Super Bowl XIII 35-31, so the defense didn't come into play there. Bradshaw threw 4 TD's during that game. Super Bowl 14 he threw for over 300yds and 2 TD's and won 31-19. So, IMO, Bradshaw is a top 5 quarterback.

Bingo. Bradshaw was a football god. It's true, he had a great team and possibly the greatest coach of all time. But he also did a lot of the work himself.

[ih8nyy]

Congrats to the Saints on a dandy of a win.
I'm still in shock from that onside kick. Just brilliant.

[StorminNorman]

**** the Saints.

[Dark Donnie]

Watch this video and try to tell me that Bradshaw isn't every bit as good as those guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U1Xtci4PBw
Watch these videos and try and tell me he's better then any of them:

Dan Marino (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPFdn9uzj8&feature=related)
Joe Montana (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=joe+montana+highlights&search_type=&aq=0&oq=joe+montana+high)
John Elway (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHgoUsgfic4)
Tom Brady (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvRhHuCohPc)
Peyton Manning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1FPdWYmkQ&feature=related)
Johnny Unitas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InEmsCnkbds)


Bingo. Bradshaw was a football god. It's true, he had a great team and possibly the greatest coach of all time. But he also did a lot of the work himself.

Bradshaw won a lot of Superbowls...but in terms of overall talent and stats he's not in the same league as Marino, Elway, Manning, Montana, etc.

In terms of performing in the playoffs he was great...but when determining an All-Time great list he falls outside of most Top 5-6 for a reason.

[StorminNorman]

In terms of overall talent, Montana isn't in the same league as Marino, Elway or Manning either.

If you are going to use that sort of argument against Bradshaw, you have to use it against Montana.

[Immortalfire]

Holy cow, I just now realized that a whole Super Bowl weekend went by, and Norm hasn't showed til now. What the puck

[FaT_tONle]

Just separate the categories... playoff guys are guys like Aikman, Brady, etc. Every day guys are Marino, Elway, Peyton, Farve. It's just preference whether one weighs the post season a lot more than the regular season. I am more of a Farve, Peyton, Marino, Elway group than I am the other four guys with 3+ rings.

[BlackLantern]

**** the Saints.

did Sean Payton touch you in a bad place??

[Alex The Great]

Holy cow, I just now realized that a whole Super Bowl weekend went by, and Norm hasn't showed til now. What the puck
Drinking his frustration away :awesome:

[StorminNorman]

Holy cow, I just now realized that a whole Super Bowl weekend went by, and Norm hasn't showed til now. What the puck

It's been a long week.

did Sean Payton touch you in a bad place??

The Saints game plan against the Vikings was one of the most cowardly things I have ever seen. Neither the Saints nor the Colts deserved a Championship.

Drinking his frustration away :awesome:

That's my plans for THIS week. Drinking and Hyping is always a good decision.

[Addendum]

Cowardly or not, all that matters is they won the game.

[Hound55]

Meh, to me Peyten Manning, Dan Marino and Brett Favre are comfortably the best 3 quarterbacks in NFL history, all for different reasons (although Marino and Peyten's reasons are very similar) and are comfortably better than the 5 which Matt named.

Brett Favre is hands down the most well-rounded quarterback skills-wise that any of us have ever seen and his best performances are above and beyond the best of anyone else's. That said, his short-coming has been that he's so confident in his own abilities that he'll try and force s*** in there where its just not going to happen and he often had receivers who couldn't handle his passes.

Peyton Manning has the greatest awareness and ability to disect a defense and destroy it out of any quarterback in history, plays within himself (i.e. less f*** ups than Favre will have) and what's limited him has been what's been around him on teams. That said he got straight-up out-played by Drew Brees yesterday despite having a significantly better O-line purely because he made ONE major mistake whereas Brees made no such major mistake.

And Marino had a freak arm, was also brilliant at breaking things down and if he had half decent teams around him would have been racking up superbowl rings.

Brady had three with more talent than Manning or Marino could have dreamed of ever having, when Favre had the guys around him he won. It took Elway YEARS to win his two and that only happened because he finally had the guys around him to get it done. Which only further highlights the difference between Matt's 5 and my three. Matt has picked the "haves".

You put Brady on Marino's Dolphins and see what he would have done... or Peyton on Brady's Patriots...

[SurfDUI]

The Saints game plan against the Vikings was one of the most cowardly things I have ever seen. Neither the Saints nor the Colts deserved a Championship.



What about a deserve, the road to this seasons final game, from @ least the best game plans had the top 2 teams contend, and was won in large part to a coaching call. The Vikings ****ed that up themselves, the JETS busted out and the rest of the talent went right down the line.

This ain't the leather helmet / Otto Ghram days, games like these measure Championships

[Cmill216]

Brady had three with more talent than Manning or Marino could have dreamed of ever having

The Patriots had better talent than Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin James, Brandon Stokley, etc, etc, etc??

[Alex The Great]

BRUTAL...Thems the brakes. Not the worst COLTS beat, but they nearly had it...Sean Peyton threw a wrench on the well oiled machine. That onside threw it all off, N.O. had the momentum after the half, and then...

18 fell apart.

EXCELLENT season, but it stings, SB runner up was bound to happen.

Congrats Drew Brees. I can't stomach all the Saints love fest, but losing to that group isn't a bad beat IMO. Good game.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p317/SurfDUI/2010-02-08190209-1.jpg
You didn't commit suicide? :cmad:

*gives 'fire 10 bucks* :cmad:

[Wolfwood]

Holy crap, they cut off his hand. That's some harsh punishment.

[SurfDUI]

*gives 'fire 10 bucks* :cmad:




...I want you take that ten dollars..:dry: and buy your friend a plate of spaghetti and enjoy rollings meatballs back and forth with your noses in an alley like Lady and the Tramp

[Addendum]

They call him Flipper

[Go Web Go!]

The Patriots had better talent than Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin James, Brandon Stokley, etc, etc, etc??

Yeah, no chance. One can argue that Marino and maybe even Favre had their hands tied in terms of the players they were surrounded by, but Manning has just about always had a top player at their position on his team, be it Edge in his prime, Harrison/Wayne over the last few years, and also Clark. There's never been a shortage of talent there.

[StorminNorman]

Cowardly or not, all that matters is they won the game.

Thanks for that update.

[StorminNorman]

The Patriots had better talent than Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin James, Brandon Stokley, etc, etc, etc??

Actually, yes. Just on the other side of the ball.

[Alex The Great]

Ah, a sports thread is nothing without Normans *****ing and moaning :awesome:

I :heart: Norman :yay:

[StorminNorman]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb291/visitorkiu/mangini.jpg

[NewYorkSpider]

Norman, you and SurfDUI were the only two that didn't send me Super Bowl picks. We're you having a party together? :oldrazz:

[StorminNorman]

:ninja:

[SurfDUI]

Yeah..about that, id have totally picked wrong

[Immortalfire]

Norman dreams of a Browns/Lions Super Bowl

[StorminNorman]

They both will be in the playoffs in two years ;)

[Immortalfire]

You didn't commit suicide? :cmad:

*gives 'fire 10 bucks* :cmad:

*donates to charity*

[Addendum]

Browns/Lions Super Bowl? I wouldn't buy that for a dollar

[Addendum]

They both will be in the playoffs in two years ;)

If they do more than show up and go home after the game is another matter

[Excel]

When is the 2010 thread going to open...I am sick of talking about the Saints. Who Dat was killed like 2 weeks ago. Can we back to discussing the Patriots now?

Some buddies of mine and I were having a discussion during the bowl...Im curious to see some of yalls predictions, particuarly norms or srufdui's.

What do you think their individual stat lines would look like for a single season if Peyton Manning and Randy Moss ever play/played a full year together?

My friend, who is a Colts fan, thinks Moss would crush his 2007 record.

Actually, yes. Just on the other side of the ball.

Defenses wasnt the dude shredding secondaries to get em into field goal range to win the big game on multiple occasions :o

Mannings talent was more offense based while Bradys was always more defense based, but yeah, the sb winning Pats NEVER had more talent than the Colts. Ok, well in 2004, it was close. But that was it. Most of the Patriot players on defense & offense havent played so hot outside fo New England.

[NewYorkSpider]

When is the 2010 thread going to open...I am sick of talking about the Saints. Who Dat was killed like 2 weeks ago. Can we back to discussing the Patriots now?



I told Poeman to wait a little while before opening it. Let the Super Bowl discussion last for a couple days. This will keep you happy for those few days.


AFC Champions

2004 - Patriots
2005 - Steelers
2006 - Colts
2007 - Patriots
2008 - Steelers
2009 - Colts
2010 - Patriots?

[Hunter Rider]

When is the 2010 thread going to open...I am sick of talking about the Saints. Who Dat was killed like 2 weeks ago. Can we back to discussing the Patriots now?


:funny:

[BlackLantern]

I don't understand Norm sometimes, but I guess that's just part of it all

[Immortalfire]

When is the 2010 thread going to open...I am sick of talking about the Saints. Who Dat was killed like 2 weeks ago. Can we back to discussing the Patriots now?


No.

[terry78]

^That is the most direct I have ever seen you be. You going serious on us, boy?

[BlackLantern]

Colts greeted by a crowd of 11 strong at the airport

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100208/SPORTS03/2090305/

[Immortalfire]

^That is the most direct I have ever seen you be. You going serious on us, boy?

Nevah :awesome:

[FaT_tONle]

Well, for those looking ahead to 2010, some key games to highlight next year:

Steelers @ Saints (Probably the Thursday opener)

Bears @ Giants (Heard rumblings that this might be the first Sunday Night game, opening of the new venue, they might take a divisional foe as well)

Colts @ Pats (Pats host them for the first time in four years)

Chargers @ Colts (Always playoff implications with this matchup)

Thanksgiving

-NE/NYJ @ Det (Probably the Pats to keep people in tune)
-Wash/Chic @ Dallas (They like matching up the scrubs against Big D on Turkey Day. Unfortunately, Dallas will have no scrubs on what will be a brutal schedule)

Baltimore @ Jets (Hopefully Reed doesn't retire yet or he'll miss a fun one)

Dallas/NYG @ Colts (These matchups only come around once every four years)

Saints @ Dallas (Bad blood brewing here)

Giants/Dallas @ Packers (Playoff implications abound)

[Excel]

AFC Champions

2004 - Patriots
2004 - Patriots
2005 - Steelers
2006 - Colts
2007 - Patriots
2008 - Steelers
2009 - Colts
2010 - Patriots?

Haha. Thats kind fo pathetic on the rest fo the AFC's part.

[Immortalfire]

Thanksgiving

-NE/NYJ @ Det (Probably the Pats to keep people in tune)


Ah, the annual Detroit Turkey Bowl

[StorminNorman]

Thanksgiving

-NE/NYJ @ Det (Probably the Pats to keep people in tune)
-Wash/Chic @ Dallas (They like matching up the scrubs against Big D on Turkey Day. Unfortunately, Dallas will have no scrubs on what will be a brutal schedule)


The NFL HAS to go Sanchez v. Stafford on Thanksgiving. Its the best matchup by far for Detroits Thanksgiving.

Chicago v. Dallas would be interesting since I expect great things from Mike Martz.

[Dr. Evil]

AFC Champions

2004 - Patriots
2005 - Steelers
2006 - Colts
2007 - Patriots
2008 - Steelers
2009 - Colts
2010 - Patriots?

It's been those three teams since 2004. Hopefully San Diego emerges, but it's safe to say one of those three teams will probably represent the AFC in next year's Super Bowl.

[SurfDUI]

AFC Champions

2004 - Patriots
2005 - Steelers
2006 - Colts
2007 - Patriots
2008 - Steelers
2009 - Colts
2010 - Colts?

I see no reason why the Colts don't get back to another AFC Championship. Outside of a new JETS type run out of a team on the verge, mostly the Texans, if the same dogs are in the race again, I would fully expect a rematch of SB 44.

As for the Pats, all of Belicheats luietenants have left the ship..Randy will get bored if they don't go 5,6-0. The Jets might take that division again.

[Excel]

Patriots-Jets should be first Sunday nighter.

[NewYorkSpider]

I see no reason why the Colts don't get back to another AFC Championship. Outside of a new JETS type run out of a team on the verge, mostly the Texans, if the same dogs are in the race again, I would fully expect a rematch of SB 44.

As for the Pats, all of Belicheats luietenants have left the ship..Randy will get bored if they don't go 5,6-0. The Jets might take that division again.


Super Bowl curse?

The last time a Super Bowl loser made it back there was the 93-94 Bills. They actually did it 4 years in a row. :o

I honestly expect the Patriots to emerge as the best team in the AFC again.

[StorminNorman]

Texans.

[BlackLantern]

Texans will make the playoffs this season

[NewYorkSpider]

Texans.


I want to see who they get in the draft. I'm hoping C.J Spiller drops to them. I think he could make the offense even more dangerous. I think Seattle would end up nabbing him with their second round pick.

[NewYorkSpider]

Since discussion in this thread is starting to die down, I'm gonna give Poeman the go ahead to open the 2010 NFL Thread

[Immortalfire]

Send him a PM.

[NewYorkSpider]

I did about 20 minutes ago. He was last online around 5:30. Hopefully he'll get back on to make it tonight.

[Immortalfire]

While we wait, some of you help me clean up this party mess.

[Kane52630]

While we wait, some of you help me clean up this party mess.

i can get the half bottles of Coke

and take it with me :ninja:

[Cmill216]

I'll keep the Sailor Jerry.

[Poeman]

you guys can lock this up!

[Immortalfire]

Thanks for coming everyone! See ya next year :yay: