WB Superman Reboot 3.0: Christopher Nolan Edition

[Sawyer]

I wouldn't want it to feel like Supes is being jammed into Batman's world. If it's done well, I'm all for it, but I dont want it to be forced.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Well, Superman won't be in Batman's world at all as long as Nolan is in charge of the Dark Knight. However, I feel WB will try to insert Batman into Superman's world.

[mclay18]

As long as cameras are rolling they are good.

Assuming the Superman reboot starts shooting by 2011, how long of an extension will Warner Brothers receive on their share of the Superman rights? 3 years? 5 years? 10 years?

[Nightwing1983]

This film could not be in better hands.

Don't you think they should tie in the end of the Batman series of films with the beginning of the Superman series? It wouldn't even have to be something big and obvious. But it would just be good to push the general audience to look forward to the Superman film once Batman 3 has ended. Kinda like saying, 'hey if you liked the Batman movies, you'll LOVE Superman.'

I think a good way to do it is to link Superman with the "escalation" theme that Gordon and Batman talked about at the end of BB. Superman being the ultimate escalation for the good guys. Idk I don't want to bring Batman down, but there must come a point in his career where he is like 'Damn I could use some help these villains are getting out of control.' And then maybe starts looking into contacting Superman for some help.

Or just at the point where Batman thinks he might retire because he is overwhelmed, he hears about Superman in Metropolis which gives Batman hope that better days are yet to come.

I don't think so, I mean, those Batman films work because they're very grounded in the real world, and I think it would be offputting for some fans. I mean, don't get me wrong, I hate people who hate Superman, but even I admire how much they're trying for realism.

Besides, I think it's too early to build some sort of "universe" for the characters. I mean, if they had a Superman cameo in the Green Lantern film, it would've hurt his ability to stand on his own two feet as a character who was never in live action, never had a solo cartoon, and who has different alter-egos hence making it harder for him to symbolize something in particular.

[Nightwing1983]

Well, Superman won't be in Batman's world at all as long as Nolan is in charge of the Dark Knight. However, I feel WB will try to insert Batman into Superman's world.

In what way? I mean, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just wondering how you think they'll do it.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

In what way? I mean, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just wondering how you think they'll do it.
Let's just say we're getting a Superman trilogy. The first movie, I expect nothing and there shouldn't be. Let's not have Batman be the biggest thing talked about in what could be the best Superman film in years or ever. The second movie is where I think subtle hints or a full out "Joker card" could be dropped. I don't want to see a Superman/Batman team up, but WB will make a Justice League movie eventually, so this would be the best way to start it.

[RachelDawes]

Well, Superman won't be in Batman's world at all as long as Nolan is in charge of the Dark Knight. However, I feel WB will try to insert Batman into Superman's world.

I would prefer that to seeing Superman in a Batman movie.

[Nightwing1983]

but WB will make a Justice League movie eventually, so this would be the best way to start it.

I think they want to, but I've resigned myself to seeing that as the fanboy equivalent of a celebrity crush. It's fun to think about, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

They'd be foolish not to. It's the next logical step after expanding the movies beyond Batman and Superman.

[Webhead2006]

well even if they did put superman into the world nolan created for batman. it can work out easily with the right storyline and dialouge and all that. I think they can do it, and as others have pointed out superman would be the greatest escalition for the good guys, and batman's more crazy villains, and future hero villains will be the upper end of the scale for the bad guys. I will be curious to see if they will try to make them work in some universe or what not.

As for power levels i said this before myself. I would want to in first film have superman be at a certain mid class strength/power level. But then we see in sequels the longer he is on earth the more poweful he becomes. Then yea i would have it capped at a certain level, so we dont get to crazy powerful.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I wonder if Nolan has really paid attention to Stephen Hawking's claim of alien life.

[Nightwing1983]

well even if they did put superman into the world nolan created for batman. it can work out easily with the right storyline and dialouge and all that. I think they can do it, and as others have pointed out superman would be the greatest escalition for the good guys, and batman's more crazy villains, and future hero villains will be the upper end of the scale for the bad guys. I will be curious to see if they will try to make them work in some universe or what not.

As for power levels i said this before myself. I would want to in first film have superman be at a certain mid class strength/power level. But then we see in sequels the longer he is on earth the more poweful he becomes. Then yea i would have it capped at a certain level, so we dont get to crazy powerful.

Well, as for this "escalation" theory, this all feels like the DCAU all over again. Not that I'm not a fan of the DCAU, but the Batman-bias is staggering. It's like in every single show, Batman (or just Bruce as in Batman Beyond) had to be the Alpha and the Omega. I'd like the films to imply that Superman has been around as long as Batman, and if that means skirting the issue of his being around when the first two films happened, that's fine by me. Again, people who just like those films can ignore the other DC heroes' films and the JLA film and don't have to sit there and think, "but wait! Superman was around!"

Either way, though, if I seem sour about the whole JLA thing or the shared universe thing... it's hard to explain. Let's just say some debates I've had sucked the fun out of thinking about it.

[Webhead2006]

yea it does seem to be that, but if it works it works and i would be down for it to go that way. now things could have probably been different if SR had been what the studio wanted and all that. Well i still say they could have it be superman hasnt become a public guy yet. From what we know bb/tdk are like batman 1st/2nd yr on the job. And by the time 3rd film is out and what ever timeframe happens from tdk to b3 could be another time of like a yr or two. So then with superman we can say if we are getting a younger just fresh to the scene superman if he is like 25-28 yrs old he could have just still been in smallville or traveling the world trying to figure out how he is going to live his life and what to do with his powers. During the events of the first two nolan films.

[Bad Superman]

I'd weaken him down some from what he was in SR. I think an Aircraft Carrier or a Cruise ship should be his upper strength limit. Maybe even something like the Empire state building.
Thats still wicked strong, just not planet moving strong.

I agree. No more planet moving or turning back time. No more weird powers or gadgets (telekinesis, cellophane shield).

[Young Superman]

Agreed

[Nightwing1983]

I don't even mind if they give him his ability to travel through time, but where it becomes a deus-ex-machina is that the film didn't really establish that he could do it. You could argue that, "it is forbidden to interfere with human history," but a) that can mean that Jor-El doesn't want him to interfere with the present and become a part of history (which would contradict everything else he says) and b) there's no consequence to this "forbidden" activity.

[kalelkilla]

As far as Superman coming into a Batman movie, it can be something really small, like Bruce reading reports of a flying man in Metropolis or something like that. (written by Lois Lane). I don't want to see Superman in the movie, but I think there should be something in there about Superman, especially if they want to have a continuity.

Maybe Gordon tells Batman about some "guy leaping over buildings" in Metropolis and that he can believe in anything now that he has been working with Batman...something small like that. I can't see Bruce hearing about someone like Superman and not looking into it. For all he knows, he could be Bruce's worst nightmare.

If Superman has the power to turn back time, then all of his actions are inconsequential and have no drama. If he can just go back in time and save everyone why does he feel the need to save them at THAT very moment. I want to see a powerful Superman but I draw the line at turning back time or time travel.

[Bad Superman]

As far as Superman coming into a Batman movie, it can be something really small, like Bruce reading reports of a flying man in Metropolis or something like that. (written by Lois Lane). I don't want to see Superman in the movie, but I think there should be something in there about Superman, especially if they want to have a continuity.

Maybe Gordon tells Batman about some "guy leaping over buildings" in Metropolis and that he can believe in anything now that he has been working with Batman...something small like that. I can't see Bruce hearing about someone like Superman and not looking into it. For all he knows, he could be Bruce's worst nightmare.

If Superman has the power to turn back time, then all of his actions are inconsequential and have no drama. If he can just go back in time and save everyone why does he feel the need to save them at THAT very moment. I want to see a powerful Superman but I draw the line at turning back time or time travel.

I would love to see something like that.

As for going back in time, if they keep that, there should be major consequences for him if he does it, which would limit him of doing it again and again.

[Mr. Earle]

As far as Superman coming into a Batman movie, it can be something really small, like Bruce reading reports of a flying man in Metropolis or something like that. (written by Lois Lane). I don't want to see Superman in the movie, but I think there should be something in there about Superman, especially if they want to have a continuity.

Maybe Gordon tells Batman about some "guy leaping over buildings" in Metropolis and that he can believe in anything now that he has been working with Batman...something small like that. I can't see Bruce hearing about someone like Superman and not looking into it. For all he knows, he could be Bruce's worst nightmare.

If Superman has the power to turn back time, then all of his actions are inconsequential and have no drama. If he can just go back in time and save everyone why does he feel the need to save them at THAT very moment. I want to see a powerful Superman but I draw the line at turning back time or time travel.Seconded!

[Webhead2006]

well if they do decide to make nolan's batman world a world where superman could and does operate in i hope they come up with a good valid reasons behind it.

[Webhead2006]

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[Nightwing1983]

As far as Superman coming into a Batman movie, it can be something really small, like Bruce reading reports of a flying man in Metropolis or something like that. (written by Lois Lane). I don't want to see Superman in the movie, but I think there should be something in there about Superman, especially if they want to have a continuity.

Only if it's a blink and you'll miss it

Maybe Gordon tells Batman about some "guy leaping over buildings" in Metropolis and that he can believe in anything now that he has been working with Batman...something small like that. I can't see Bruce hearing about someone like Superman and not looking into it. For all he knows, he could be Bruce's worst nightmare.

I think that would distract from the world those films are meant to create.

If Superman has the power to turn back time, then all of his actions are inconsequential and have no drama. If he can just go back in time and save everyone why does he feel the need to save them at THAT very moment. I want to see a powerful Superman but I draw the line at turning back time or time travel.

Maybe, unless there's consequences to his actions. Many people have pointed out that if you go back in time on purpose to accomplish a task--like preventing someone's death--you've not only altered history, but prevented your own reason for going back thus creating a paradox. It may be beyond the scope of a Superman movie--well, nothing's beyond the scope of a Superman movie--but there have been great time-travel movies.

[Superman-Prime]

Superman Reboot makes me sick to my stomach.

[Showtime]

Why? It's either that or no Superman movie for a decade.

[Nightwing1983]

I honestly think that by this time few people are interested in seeing how the ballad of Jason plays out, and the next one would go in a different direction, making it at-least as much of a "reboot" as Superman Returns was per some peoples' definitions.

[Wally West]

Good news, if it's true.

I have a hard time seeing a Christmas 2012 release for Superman happening though.

The only way it would make sense is if the MGM bankrupcy sitiuation that is currently holding up the Hobbit drags on to the point where the first Hobbit film is delayed until Christmas 2013. WB owns half the rights to the Hobbit and recently made a bid at purchasing MGM (who owns the other half). The bid was turned down (at least for now), and MGM is being given yet another shot at restructuring (their fifth and probably last shot). But even if Warners doesn't ultimately aquire MGM they will still have quite a bit invested in the Hobbit. I don't see the logic in a studio trying to cram Christmas 2012 with two major films competing for pretty much the same audience.

[GreenKToo]

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Like it or lump it, the reboot is happening.

[GreenKToo]

I can't speak for the public, but i'd try my best to see em both in the same week. If they are good films, the public will see them, it doesn't matter how many films are out.
I remember 2007 and all the huge films that were out at pretty much the same time.
It sure didn't hurt any of them B.O. wise.
I have my doubts on the hobbit being released then anyway. we shall see.

[Nightwing1983]

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Like it or lump it, the reboot is happening.

I think the problem is that sometimes the pro-reboot crowd can be too confrontational. Heck, I used to be the worst. Instead of this, "like it or lump it," or "get over it" stuff, I think the thing to do is to say, "you might like it."

I know this sounds preachy, I'm just saying.

[Rodrigo90]

Returns to me was a story that made me think "The End". It told the (pointless) tale of Superman going missing and returning to his life between II and III...done. It was a COMPLETELY WASTED opportunity to do something spectacular. Instead they tried to replicate what was once great about the old movies, COULD HAVE even erased the embarrassments that were III and IV by taking the concept and making it amazing...No, they ****** it up. They had the opportunity to make something new, had the opportunity to fix Superman's current movie reputation...****** IT UP !.

[Nightwing1983]

Returns to me was a story that made me think "The End". It told the (pointless) tale of Superman going missing and returning to his life between II and III...done. It was a COMPLETELY WASTED opportunity to do something spectacular. Instead they tried to replicate what was once great about the old movies, COULD HAVE even erased the embarrassments that were III and IV by taking the concept and making it amazing...No, they ****** it up. They had the opportunity to make something new, had the opportunity to fix Superman's current movie reputation...****** IT UP !.

Yeah. I mean, I don't care that Pa Kent is dead, Lex tells jokes, Superman turned back time, Clark is a nerd, etc. and I think enough time had passed that Supes boning Lois and making her forget, Supes trying to rid the world of nuclear weapons, Supes casually forsaking his powers and somehow getting them back could have been swept under the rug. It's the friggin' kid!

I honestly still believe they could try again, but either way, Returns must be stricken from the records. Full-on reboot, another attempt at a loose sequel; either way, Superman shouldn't be leavin' his DNA down there.

[Webhead2006]

yea i still think if hobbit doesnt make its start and could be released for xmas 2012 it should go to superman. But we will just have to see when wb does get superman up and running.

[Webhead2006]

i agree rodirgo SR was more an end and it was bad in my book. I hope this new film will make up for it and we get a good story and all.

[GreenKToo]

I think the problem is that sometimes the pro-reboot crowd can be too confrontational. Heck, I used to be the worst. Instead of this, "like it or lump it," or "get over it" stuff, I think the thing to do is to say, "you might like it."

I know this sounds preachy, I'm just saying.
Oh no man. Not trying to be confrontational at all. I'm just saying it would be best to get behind it because that is what's gonna happen. The pic was done in humor. Maybe bad humor, but humor never the less.
I mean really, if I couldn't stand the fact that a reboot instead of a sequel was happening, then I wouldn't complain constantly on a site that talks about a reboot, but that's just me.
Like showy said, its either a reboot or nothing. I can't believe some would pick nothing.

For the record, I would have supported a sequel just as well as a reboot IF more action and a supervillain were promised.

[kalelkilla]

Let's not bring up Superman Returns in this forum, I'm just getting its terrible memories out of my head and the more we talk about it, the more angry I get.

Let's just be happy we have a reboot coming in the hands of some great filmmakers.

[Superark]

Oh no man. Not trying to be confrontational at all. I'm just saying it would be best to get behind it because that is what's gonna happen. The pic was done in humor. Maybe bad humor, but humor never the less.
I mean really, if I couldn't stand the fact that a reboot instead of a sequel was happening, then I wouldn't complain constantly on a site that talks about a reboot, but that's just me.
Like showy said, its either a reboot or nothing. I can't believe some would pick nothing.

For the record, I would have supported a sequel just as well as a reboot IF more action and a supervillain were promised.


I would have prefered a sequel instead of th reboot, since I felt SR was fantastic and one of the best superhero movies to be have been made. I sincerely believe Singer would have addressed any problems the fans had with SR in the sequel, much like he did with X-Men. I am glad Singer made a Superman film that I will always have to enjoy and be grateful for. But I am disappointed that I'll never get to see what could have been a truly epic sequel.

However, it is what it is and if I have to take a reboot over nothing, then I'll glady take a Superman reboot. I'll keep an open mind and hope for the best with new film.

[Nightwing1983]

Oh no man. Not trying to be confrontational at all. I'm just saying it would be best to get behind it because that is what's gonna happen. The pic was done in humor. Maybe bad humor, but humor never the less.
I mean really, if I couldn't stand the fact that a reboot instead of a sequel was happening, then I wouldn't complain constantly on a site that talks about a reboot, but that's just me.
Like showy said, its either a reboot or nothing. I can't believe some would pick nothing.

For the record, I would have supported a sequel just as well as a reboot IF more action and a supervillain were promised.

No, I'm sorry: I was just on this, "can't we all just get along?" high or something. I could be the worst when it comes to confrontation; and that goes double for people putting words in my mouth like what happened just now on the theme-music thread.

For the record: I believe Singer did promise more action and a supervillain but that wouldn't satisfy me. I want the story of SR stricken.

[Rodrigo90]

Superman Returns was CRAP. It had no morals, no message,no redeeming qualities. Superman was turned into a moody stalker, who would rather steal Lois from Richard than save a cat out of a tree, I didnt like him at all. That movie was lazy, pointless, an insult and a wasted opportunity.

[Nightwing1983]

Superman Returns was CRAP. It had no morals, no message,no redeeming qualities. Superman was turned into a moody stalker, who would rather steal Lois from Richard than save a cat out of a tree, I didnt like him at all. That movie was lazy, pointless, an insult and a wasted opportunity.

Exactly.

[Superman-Prime]

SR haters are making me sick to my stomach.

That pisses me off that they are planning to make a Superman Reboot. I seriously hope that they better not to add Superman's origin in the reboot. We have known Superman's origin.

[Nightwing1983]

SR haters are making me sick to my stomach.

NOW I remember why my fellow rebooters are so defensive.

That pisses me off that they are planning to make a Superman Reboot. I seriously hope that they better not to add Superman's origin in the reboot. We have known Superman's origin.

Well, I'd be just as happy with a Stetcon that gets rid of the events of SR. And for voicing this opinion, I had to deal with a metric ton of $#@% because they've basically decided that "the Donner movies" are to be put out to pasture.

[Superman-Prime]

NOW I remember why my fellow rebooters are so defensive.

Good for you.

Superman's origin in reboot is unnecessary, IMO.

[Webhead2006]

yup with this reboot there is so many different ways they can go about things, different feel, look. I for one cant wait to see what nolan/goyer and their director will bring to the table for us fans. Hopefully it will work both to us fans, and for the studio. Cause if superman fails again the character is going to be in a wrost place then it already is with the whole copyright deals. As for the whole origin deal, sure we dont really need it. But being a reboot we should have the option to have origin stuff stuff. So we know why this story is going to be different then past film/tv/cartoons origins and all that. Plus if we dont have any origins we do loose out on characters and plotlines to start up and if we are coming into characters life after all these events could have happened. It would suck for us not knowing why or how the characters became who they are in this take.

[GreenKToo]

If they want to do the origin, then I'd like to see it told in flashback.
Maybe have the villain beat supes within an inch of his life. In his delirium, supes has flashbacks of his past, leading all the way back to Krypton, up to his present time.

[Webhead2006]

yea totally there is so many different ways if we see origin stuff in the film on how it can be done. it could be straight a to b to c storytelling, or it can be flashbacks, or something else.

[Dark Knight]

By the way off topic but two of my friends saw IM2 and said this sequel regressed from the first one.

They said it had too much fluff and over the top non sense going on and they said the films pace was crammed and rushed but the action was good. Heard Downey was more of an A-Hole in this one as well.

I'm not surprised to hear this.

I will still probably see it in two or three weeks or so....

[sdc10]

By the way off topic but two of my friends saw IM2 and said this sequel regressed from the first one.

They said it had too much fluff and over the top non sense going on and they said the films pace was crammed and rushed but the action was good. Heard Downey was more of an A-Hole in this one as well.

I'm not surprised to hear this.

I will still probably see it in two or three weeks or so....

ok?

[Man of Tomorrow]

Hopefully Campbell's Green Lantern isnt too closely patterned after Iron Man.

Signs seem to be pointing to it.

Iron Man 2 will still be a good success though, it just won't obviously be anywhere close to TDK quality. It's a 'safe' popcorn summer movie.


Thank goodness we got Nolan/Goyer on Superman, or Superman 3.0 could have easily shared the same fate. I'm sure the Superman script will be deeper and more intellectual than Favreau's film.

[dark_b]

i would like a relayed sun superman movie.

start low and build up.

[Nightwing1983]

Hopefully Campbell's Green Lantern isnt too closely patterned after Iron Man.

Signs seem to be pointing to it.

Iron Man 2 will still be a good success though, it just won't obviously be anywhere close to TDK quality. It's a 'safe' popcorn summer movie.


Thank goodness we got Nolan/Goyer on Superman, or Superman 3.0 could have easily shared the same fate. I'm sure the Superman script will be deeper and more intellectual than Favreau's film.

I haven't been following the making of the GL movie as closely as I should. I wouldn't say it'd be the worst thing if it were a "safe popcorn summer movie," but I honestly think that DC'll burn themselves bad if they just stick to the Marvel formula. The company's strength has always been in its originality, but when Marvel gets the drop on them and they try to emulate, it can hurt DC more than it helps them.

[Motown Marvel]

Superman Returns was CRAP. It had no morals, no message,no redeeming qualities. Superman was turned into a moody stalker, who would rather steal Lois from Richard than save a cat out of a tree, I didnt like him at all. That movie was lazy, pointless, an insult and a wasted opportunity.

gotta love brainless internet fanboy hyperbole.

[Anita18]

gotta love brainless internet fanboy hyperbole.
It's certainly entertaining. :woot:

Anyways, the new Inception trailer makes me more confident that Nolan can handle the more epic visuals that Superman requires.

Not that he'd be directing it or anything, but it's just another mark of confidence, is all. :oldrazz:

[Rodrigo90]

gotta love brainless internet fanboy hyperbole.

Why thank-you and God Bless. :yay:

[sdc10]

Hopefully Campbell's Green Lantern isnt too closely patterned after Iron Man.

Signs seem to be pointing to it.

Iron Man 2 will still be a good success though, it just won't obviously be anywhere close to TDK quality. It's a 'safe' popcorn summer movie.


Thank goodness we got Nolan/Goyer on Superman, or Superman 3.0 could have easily shared the same fate. I'm sure the Superman script will be deeper and more intellectual than Favreau's film.

Didnt SR try to be "deeper", and look what we got there. A stalking superman who didnt throw one punch. Im not saying I dont want the movie to be a great film, but marvels "safe popcorn movies" as you put it are vastly entertaining and do a good job of interpreting the characters.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

You know, Superman didn't throw a punch in the first one, either.

[FaT_tONle]

I haven't been following the making of the GL movie as closely as I should. I wouldn't say it'd be the worst thing if it were a "safe popcorn summer movie," but I honestly think that DC'll burn themselves bad if they just stick to the Marvel formula. The company's strength has always been in its originality, but when Marvel gets the drop on them and they try to emulate, it can hurt DC more than it helps them.

Exactly, that's why we haven't seen Flash and WW yet. Because they will come off as too formulaic if you stick to that typical structure. That would be a major concern for GL because it hopped on really late into the ball game.

[Man of Tomorrow]

The new Inception trailer looks like "Brainiac: The Movie".. Very promising for Superman 3.0

I'd love for Nolan/Goyer to write Brainiac as a complete mindf#ck for audiences

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuWY1wdEDQ

[Nightwing1983]

Exactly, that's why we haven't seen Flash and WW yet. Because they will come off as too formulaic if you stick to that typical structure. That would be a major concern for GL because it hopped on really late into the ball game.

Definitely. The problem with the Flash is that his origin is just, "whoop! Some chemicals spilled on me." It's not a tale about guilt and responsibility like Spider-Man, nor is it an exciting tale of escape like Iron Man's origin. In other words, it's on inherently interesting.

To me, they'd be better off glossing over it and telling us one of the stories about the character. I nominate a story about the Flash's final days (not COiE itself, but escaping to the future after being wrongly accused of killing his wife) and ending with Wally taking over as the new Flash.

As for Wonder Woman, it's really hard to say. Sure, there are tons of movies coming out this year about Greek Mythology; but the problem is melding that with the character herself. Do they alter her costume so that it looks more like something you'd expect from a movie like, say, Clash of the Titans; or do they stick with the iconic look--or even "modernize" it despite her origin dictating that it be archaic--and all that?

There is some meat on that bone, though. After-all, the comics seem to ignore the fact that in Greek mythology, Ares is the father of Hypollita; nor do they ever try to write him as something more than a villain, which they could since people who believe in peace through the bayonet would suit a feminist film, but hopefully lead to a more fleshed-out character.

Cuz when I saw what they did with him in the animated film, I was like...

:doh:

[raybia]

If they want to do the origin, then I'd like to see the it in flashback.
Maybe have the villain beat supes within an inch of his life. In his delirium, supes has flashbacks of his past, all the way back to Krypton to his present.

I would rather they go a different route.

How about when the movie opens, Clark is already in Metropolis and operating as Superman, maybe for about a year or so.

However, Clark has no knowledge of his Kryptonian heritage and both him and his foster parents believe that he is a metahuman and this is also assumed by the public.

I would like this to be the foundation going into the story and then events reveal that Superman is Kryptonian which causes Clark to question his identity and causes the public to have Xenophobia towards Superman especially if the threat is related to Krypton and they question his loyalty towards them.

[Webhead2006]

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[Webhead2006]

well its just to early to know how this superman is going to go. But i do think nolan/goyer can do alot with the character. So here's hoping they form a great story and it has what we want to see out of a superman movie.

[Nightwing1983]

I would rather they go a different route.

How about when the movie opens, Clark is already in Metropolis and operating as Superman, maybe for about a year or so.

However, Clark has no knowledge of his Kryptonian heritage and both him and his foster parents believe that he is a metahuman and this is also assumed by the public.

I would like this to be the foundation going into the story and then events reveal that Superman is Kryptonian which causes Clark to question his identity and causes the public to have Xenophobia towards Superman especially if the threat is related to Krypton and they question his loyalty towards them.

I like it as far as him being established when the movie begins, but without proper exposition, some people who may have assumed that it was just another Superman film, might wonder why it's so inconsistent. Also, I think that the idea of, "now he's an alien, so we hate him," is just too X-Men though it might work if the public's reaction is more mixed. As for "loyalty," that's really only an issue if it's set up that Earth is being menaced or threatened by another planet to begin with.

[GreenKToo]

I dunno, I think it could work if its shown that for a long while Clark didn't even know he was from another planet. That's the way I had it in an outline I had written..

He would know at the opening who he was, but through flashbacks we learn the ''how he learned.''

When the kent's first found Clark, they just assumed the ship's crash was just some secret government experiment gone wrong. Martha was outraged they they could use such a small child for experiments, and insisted they take him to protect him.

Jonathan couldn't load the ship in his truck so he hides it the best that he can.

They no sooner leave than a convoy of trucks appear and stop near the crash site.
Out steps several men with instruments. Leading them is a late 20 something male that the others are calling ''Sir'' and ''Mr Edge.'' They load the ship up and are gone within minutes. No trace of the crash site is left.

Luthor and Edge are corporate competitors. Lex is younger but every bit as smart and savy as Edge.
Lex knows Edge has the ship and he spends a considerable amount of time trying to steal it from him. Lex is finally successful and makes it his own.

Its not until 15 years later that lex loses the ship, but not through theft. The ship just activated on its on one day and flew up and out of the secrete underground bunker it was housed in.


Lex had heard rumors and seen blurry pics of a so called mysterious hero, but Its not until Superman makes his first true public appearance that he puts two and two together and figures out that Superman and the ship are connected. Lex becomes obsessed with Superman.

The ship was really the Eradicator. It activated on Clark's 15th year and sought him out. That's when Clark would have learned who he was, where he was from, and started receiving his training on how to control his powers.
After Kal's training was completed, the Eradicators last act was in creating the F.O.S.

That was when I had Clark, after finishing H.S., deciding to travel the world. ( hence all the mysterious reports of saves and blurry pics Lex heard about and saw)
All the suffering Clark seen while traveling the world was what finally made him to decide to use his powers for the good of the planet, and so he became Superman.

[Webhead2006]

totally night if we just start out and he has been superman out in the public for awhile and working at the planet with no explanation on how he got the job, why he became superman and designed the costume and identity, i would be pissed. Cause we loose out at many key moments their on character development with clark choosing to come to metropolis designing his clark kent self, and his superman self, and how he meets with perry/lois/jimmy and forms their friendship/love bonds and all that.

So i rather have the film start with him arriving to the city, working in secret for a bit. To he relize he cant do that forever. So he has to make up some new identity. So that is why we can go back to smallville and have a seen with john/martha about what to do or soemthing. So then we can get some insights in his past. And go on from there.

I as i said in the past if we just start in the middle with nothing explained/showed about past. I would hate that alot. There is so much we can do with any origins we are able to use and make a cool story with it.

[Dark Knight]

It's certainly entertaining. :woot:

Anyways, the new Inception trailer makes me more confident that Nolan can handle the more epic visuals that Superman requires.

Not that he'd be directing it or anything, but it's just another mark of confidence, is all. :oldrazz:





The new Inception trailer was solid!

Can't wait for that one....

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I dunno, I think it could work if its shown that for a long while Clark didn't even know he was from another planet. That's the way I had it in an outline I had written..

He would know at the opening who he was, but through flashbacks we learn the ''how he learned.''

When the kent's first found Clark, they just assumed the ship's crash was just some secret government experiment gone wrong. Martha was outraged they they could use such a small child for experiments, and insisted they take him to protect him.

Jonathan couldn't load the ship in his truck so he hides it the best that he can.

They no sooner leave than a convoy of trucks appear and stop near the crash site.
Out steps several men with instruments.

>>

That was when I had Clark, after finishing H.S., deciding to travel the world. ( hence all the mysterious reports of saves and blurry pics Lex heard about and saw)
All the suffering Clark seen while traveling the world was what finally made him to decide to use his powers for the good of the planet, and so he became Superman.

This all sounds like what they did on Lois and Clark :up: They also stated that he traveled the world after H.S. and were even going to start the pilot episode with him amongst a tribe (was too expensive to shoot though)

I like going in a similar route to how L&C modernized certain aspects :up:

[Webhead2006]

I cant wait to see what they ultimately decided to go with.

[GreenKToo]

I'm getting antsy, ready to hear some rumors about possible directors.

[kalelkilla]

Sign Jonah Nolan already, get the casting underway before the WB loses all the goddamn rights.

[Dark Knight]

Sign Jonah Nolan already, get the casting underway before the WB loses all the goddamn rights.






Don't worry....unless there is a hiccup between now and the SDCC....expect some more news on the Supes film at SDCC.

This years SDCC should be ripe with good stuff!

[Webhead2006]

yea there is plently of time for director to be announced, casting to get under way, and locking in studio space and all that. And film could be filming as early as i think as march or april 2011 would be good.

[Showtime]

Comic Con is going to be big for WB because of Green Lantern. That character will be front and center at Comic Con.

[Webhead2006]

i cant wait to see what gl is going to have at comic con myself.

[GreenKToo]

Comic Con is going to be big for WB because of Green Lantern. That character will be front and center at Comic Con.
Do you think we can expect any new about the Supes reboot from there?
Maybe they dont want one to overshadow the other (supes/GL) and they'll either release some Superman related news before the Con, or after it.
I'm Just reaching a little here, trying to make some sense out of it all.

[Abraham]

so pretty much, Green Lantern vs. Thor for this comic-con with a little bit of new from both Captain America and maybe Batman 3 I guess.

[Showtime]

Do you think we can expect any new about the Supes reboot from there? Maybe they dont want one to overshadow the other (supes/GL) and they'll either release some Superman related news before the Con, or after it. I'm Just reaching a little here, trying to make some sense out of it all.

The whole "official announcement" theory about these movies is kind of just fanboy fairy tales. Announcements of films come via press release, news outlets including online newspapers and blogs, for the most part.

There is this notion that WB is going to hit a podium up and announce their slate with the Nolans in attendance wearing Superman T-Shirts and launching fireworks.

WB rarely if at all has used Comic Con to announce their comic book properties. Going by history and since I heard before Comic Con on Superman, I say not much at Comic Con for Supes and Batman but more Green Lantern.

[kalelkilla]

There is no way Nolan is going to be there, he would just get bombarded with media attention that I am sure he doesn't want right now. He's trying to get people excited about Inception and all anyone wants to know about is Batman and Superman. It's too bad because he is the only reason I would pay attention to the Con this year.

[Anita18]

There is this notion that WB is going to hit a podium up and announce their slate with the Nolans in attendance wearing Superman T-Shirts and launching fireworks.
If this really happened, somebody would need to get photos!

[Dark Knight]

Geoff Johns stated himself during an interview at Wonder Con, that "we wait until SDCC" to hear more about WB's/DCE's plans for the DC Universe characters. I would think that would mean on film, animation and comic books.

[Webhead2006]

all i would like is confirmation on a director and a tentative timeframe of when they are hoping to start shooting next yr.

[GreenKToo]

Seconded. Folks are all up in arms over casting suggestions. As for me, give me the director announcement, thats all I care about right now.

[Young Superman]

Agreed

[Showtime]

Geoff Johns stated himself during an interview at Wonder Con, that "we wait until SDCC" to hear more about WB's/DCE's plans for the DC Universe characters. I would think that would mean on film, animation and comic books.

How does that mean there is going to be a Superman announcement at Comic Con? :dry:

[dark_b]

How does that mean there is going to be a Superman announcement at Comic Con? :dry:
because fanboys allways twist words around so that it fits with what they want.

they want to have something at comic con. thats why Johns's words are important.:awesome:

[dark_b]

There is this notion that WB is going to hit a podium up and announce their slate with the Nolans in attendance wearing Superman T-Shirts and launching fireworks.


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4634/b692yq.gif (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/b692yq.gif/)

[solidsnake86]

Do you think we can expect any new about the Supes reboot from there?
Maybe they dont want one to overshadow the other (supes/GL) and they'll either release some Superman related news before the Con, or after it.
I'm Just reaching a little here, trying to make some sense out of it all.

The truth of the matter is that batman and superman always will overshadow other lesser known properties. At a time when green lantern was in the process of casting the nolan news came out and somewhat overshadowed that. I'm sure they want green lantern to be front and center, and to add on top they have to compete with thor as well so I don't think they would say anything about superman at comic con just looking at past history.

At the same time though director choices are going to have to leak sooner or later. I'm no expert on when they have to do these things by but if the film is coming out christmas 2012 and chances are they have to start filming in late summer or fall of next year they're going to need a director by this year I would imagine.

[Dark Knight]

How does that mean there is going to be a Superman announcement at Comic Con? :dry:





I don't think I ever said there will be an "official panel announcement" regarding the Supes film, but there will more than likely be more news regarding that and other WB's/DCE films at SDCC than what is known now.

Especially after hearing what Johns said.

Then again, what Johns said can mean nothing, and WB's can just turn around and make Johns look like a liar and say screw the fans and not give them any updated news at SDCC and just promote Green Lantern and thats it.

[kalelkilla]

Unless it comes from Nolan's mouth, his wife's or Goyer's i'm not taking any news of the Batman or Superman movie to heart. Johns is probably talking about comics...yawn.

[Dark_Lord]

Unless it comes from Nolan's mouth, his wife's or Goyer's i'm not taking any news of the Batman or Superman movie to heart. Johns is probably talking about comics...yawn.

He is DC Entertainment's Chief Creative Officer. He's involved in more than just the comics...


Under the leadership of Jim and Dan, I’ll continue writing and giving my creative input as I have been in comic books. But expanding onto that, Diane’s asked me to take our comic book world, embrace it (as I do) and use it to lead the creative charge on bringing it all to film, toys, television, video games, animation and beyond. The Justice Society appearing on Smallville was only the beginning.


...and his "We'll talk at SDCC" reply was to a question about a Justice League movie.

I'm not saying he'll announce the WB/DC movie schedule at comic-con, or something, but he definitely wasn't talking about about comics only. We'll probably get a press release for Batman 3, although I doubt it'll be AT comic-con, but actually during (or actually during that month) and we'll definitely hear more about Green Lantern. Maybe he'll be able to talk more about those 2 movies. But, I don't know anything. I'm just guessing here...:oldrazz:

[Webhead2006]

yea like i said back a page all i want is confirmation on a director, and when they are hopin to get filming going. So then it gives us a fair timeframe we can see cast shaping up and crew coming on board.

[dark_b]

yea like i said back a page all i want is confirmation on a director, and when they are hopin to get filming going. So then it gives us a fair timeframe we can see cast shaping up and crew coming on board.i think after the director is signed on they will start casting fast.

but until then we will have to whait.

in the last 1-2 years so much strange news came out of hollywood that i expect everything .

noone expected Nolan as the producer and a pitch from Goyer-Nolan.

[GreenKToo]

So true. I wouldnt be surprised if we got some more jaw dropping news with superman..its been that crazy.

[solidsnake86]

You know what the funniest part about nolan being involved was that I remember seeing a lot of threads saying nolan for the reboot and most thought it was A) impossible because he's too realistic and B) involved with batman so he wouldnt want to do another superhero. I don't think anyone could have actually thought it would happen even though some had suggested it.

The thing I'm most interested in about this project is the script, I would love to know what the story is because to me thats the most important thing. Superman really has so much potential and with the way technology is now, even compared to 5 years ago this movie can really be fantastic.

[Webhead2006]

totally dark b, with the limited time frame they legally have to get filming. I do want a director locked in by july at the latest. So then hopefully between the months of like sept-dec they can start casting, and hopefully nab at least lois and clark actors as early as possibly, then other roles like perry/jimmy can be more last minute additions a short time prior to filming start. Then of course finding out all the crew coming on is nice to see what kind of backgrounds they have and we fans can get a feel of what they will bring to the table for this character. Then i really do want film in production no later then april/may 2011 so then if they want winter 2012 release that will give them plently of time to shoot, and plently of time for post. But if its 2013 release then if they still start by april/may 2011 they will have even more time to shoot and more time to fine tune everything and all that. It will be so great as a supes fan to be back in that point of film is in production and we finding out little details of filming and set photos and all the cool stuff.

[Dark Knight]

You know what the funniest part about nolan being involved was that I remember seeing a lot of threads saying nolan for the reboot and most thought it was A) impossible because he's too realistic and B) involved with batman so he wouldnt want to do another superhero. I don't think anyone could have actually thought it would happen even though some had suggested it.

The thing I'm most interested in about this project is the script, I would love to know what the story is because to me thats the most important thing. Superman really has so much potential and with the way technology is now, even compared to 5 years ago this movie can really be fantastic.





Agreed!

[Diamondhead]

If they ever reboot superman they have to considered this
superman is too powerful to be simply a guy from another planet
it would have to be one of the few '8' beings
purposely genetically engineer by a very old and powerful race
as a last resort before their complete extinction
and therefore considered as an abomination to other aliens races who are out to destroy every last one of them
and to acquire the entire kryptonian's technologies and knowledge
which Superman and the other few are solely the heir and gardians.

[Diamondhead]

Who are the Super 8

Superman
Supergirl
power girl
Doomsday
Mon-el
Brainiac
Krypto
and of course Superboy

[GreenKToo]

I'm not saying I would like that, but it is kinda sorta interesting to think of Doomsday and Superman being created by the same group of scientists.
One's a success, the other a failure.
Still, I prefer Supes to just be the last son of Krypton. Also, I never EVER want to see Krypto the superdog on the big screen.

[El Payaso]

I'm not saying I would like that, but it is kinda sorta interesting to think of Doomsday and Superman being created by the same group of scientists.

For me it'd be like having Dr. Doom as the fifth fantastic.

One's a success, the other a failure.

Who's the failure then? :yay:

Still, I prefer Supes to just be the last son of Krypton.

Same here.

Kryptonian genes and solar energy is enough explanation.

Also, I never EVER want to see Krypto the superdog on the big screen.

Absolutely. That kind of concepts must stay out.

[Bad Superman]

I'm not saying I would like that, but it is kinda sorta interesting to think of Doomsday and Superman being created by the same group of scientists.
One's a success, the other a failure.
Still, I prefer Supes to just be the last son of Krypton. Also, I never EVER want to see Krypto the superdog on the big screen.

Totally agree. Although i woundn't mind seeing Supes battle the Phantom Zoners and Zod.

[Mr. Earle]

You guys are really hating on Krypto? I am disappoint.

You need to read some stories with him then. I'd definitely put him in the movie and leave him at the farm to guard it. And then i'd adapt that scene from All-Star Superman where he and Clark play catch... in space!

[Webhead2006]

if you are going to change supes so much it really isnt superman at all. There is no need for a massive change to the character to make it work well. we just need the right folks on board who understand and get what the character is and are able to display it on screen.

[louiebling$]

*subscribes*

[Abraham]

I'm perfectly happy with them using the 1980s "Man of Steel" comic series for the script, as it was reported.

They did a great job using "Batman:Year One" as inspiration for "Batman Begins"

I'm willing to bet we will get Kryptonian Brainiac though. It was reported the script may not have the standard Jor-El origins/Krypton stuff, but however has a very strong Kryptonian/Alien storyline.

Hope all of this is true, the report from Latino review got me so pumped for a Superman reboot that I occasionally re-read it.

Goyer had an idea that actually takes the movies back to the John Byrne incarnation. Modern. Believable. FUN!

Goyer's story involves Luthor and Brainiac. It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry. I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet. And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology.


combined with this;

It’s very exciting, we have a fantastic story and we feel we can do it right. We know the milieu, if you will, we know the genre and how to get it done right

if true means we're getting the Superman film I've been dreaming of since, of idontknow, 1999? - fun.

http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/02/superman-flying-thumb-400x300-13349.jpg

Better get the classic Superman suit too (pictured above)

[Young Superman]

Still, I prefer Supes to just be the last son of Krypton. Also, I never EVER want to see Krypto the superdog on the big screen. Agreed.

Totally agree. Although i woundn't mind seeing Supes battle the Phantom Zoners and Zod.
Been there done that, it was called Superman 2.

[solidsnake86]

Been there done that, it was called Superman 2.

and it wasn't very good.....

[Webhead2006]

i really hope they will make the right decisions this time around.

[GreenKToo]

I have a visual in my mind of a scene revealing our first glimpse of Superman in the reboot.

A BUSY STREET NEXT TO AN ABONDONED BUILDING:
A gang of thugs has followed a young woman for over a block.
She nervously keeps looking back. She then notices a couple more thugs in front of her, and their moving her way. They force her into an empty building. A couple of them have knifes drawn. She drops her bags and backs up, fear grips her.
The sun is shining in her eyes through breaks in the walls, so she has to squint.
The thugs close in, whistling and whooping. she backs up further, dust and cobwebs cover her.
Suddenly the woman looks past the thugs and her eyes grow wide.
A loud "AHEM' is heard behind the thugs.
The thugs turn, and look up.
There, just outside the building, a man is seen through the breaks in the walls. He is hovering about 15 ' off the ground and is dressed in brillant blue with a flowing bright red cape..the sun is behind him which adds to the effect.
The thugs raise their hands to block out the sun and stare at the man.
The woman walks past the thugs and gives them a ''your gonna get it now'' look.
She walks under the hovering man. He looks down and smiles, she smiles back.
Then he looks back at the thugs. The smile is gone.
The thugs jaws drop, and the blood drains from their faces.

[Mr. Earle]

I have a visual in my mind of a scene revealing our first glimpse of Superman in the reboot.

A BUSY STREET NEXT TO AN ALLEYWAY:
A gang of thugs has followed a young woman for over a block.
She nervously keeps looking back. She then notices a couple more thugs in front of her, and their moving her way. They force her into an empty alleyway. A couple have knifes drawn. She drops her bags and backs up, fear grips her.
The sun is shining in her eyes so she has to squint.
The thugs close in, whistling and whooping.
Suddenly the woman looks past the thugs and her eyes grow wide.
A loud "AHEM' is heard behind the thugs.
The thugs turn, and look up.
There, hovering about 15 ' off the ground is a man dressed in brillant blue with a flowing bright red cape..the sun is behind him which adds to the effect.
The thugs raise their hands to block the sun and stare at the man.
The woman walks past the thugs and gives them a ''your gonna get it now look''.
She walks under the hovering man. He looks down and smiles, she smiles back.
Then he looks back at the thugs. The smile is gone.
The thugs jaws drop, and the blood drains from their faces.Those thugs should feel lucky that they didnt meet Batman. He would break some bones whether they surrendered on not. :hehe:

[GreenKToo]

I changed it up a little from an alley to an abandoned building..It was too similar to the spider-man scene with mary jane.

[Bad Superman]

Been there done that, it was called Superman 2.

Well let's leave out Lex while we're at it. . . Superman 1, 2, 4 and Superman Returns. . . Hey, been there done that. . . . :whatever:

I wasn't referring to the first film, but somewhere down the line. I'm sure many people wouldn't mind seeing Zod battle it out again with Superman, specially now with all the fx's that are available it could be epic.

[GreenKToo]

I'm hoping for a knock down drag out fight with lots of collateral damage.

[The Batman]

Well let's leave out Lex while we're at it. . . Superman 1, 2, 4 and Superman Returns. . . Hey, been there done that. . . . :whatever:

I wasn't referring to the first film, but somewhere down the line. I'm sure many people wouldn't mind seeing Zod battle it out again with Superman, specially now with all the fx's that are available it could be epic.

Isn't that funny, though? Zod's only been in 1.5 Superman films...hasnt had a big screen appearance in nearly 30 years, and people act as if he's appeared too much, yet want luthor, a guy who's been in every superman film...and the only supes film he wasnt in, he was replaced by a guy that was essentially exactly like him....

Then again, why should I be surprised. Logic and rationality left these boards in 2004.

[GreenKToo]

I think Zod being used in SV alot hasnt helped any either.

[Bad Superman]

I'm hoping for a knock down drag out fight with lots of collateral damage.

Me too. It's long overdue. I remember the fight scenes from The Matrix I and II and I would like to watch something similar. . . I think fx's have developed alot since then and it would definitely be one of my priorities for the first film be that against Brainiac or whomever the villian is. :up:

I wonder what kind of training should the actor playing Supes should get for his fight scenes. Clearly not Kung-Fu.

[The Batman]

I think Zod being used in SV alot hasnt helped any either.

I dont think so...fanboys here have been whining about Zod before Season 9 of SV, and even then, it shouldnt matter how much he appears in SV.

I think this is related to ongoing "Donner Backlash" that hopefully these boards will grow out of.

[GreenKToo]

I'd think boxing and just street fighting.
It would be kool to see Superman get his a$$ kicked by a being just as strong, but the bad guy uses some form of martial art..
supes would then have to train with the BAT...lol, I kid I kid.

[Bad Superman]

Isn't that funny, though? Zod's only been in 1.5 Superman films...hasnt had a big screen appearance in nearly 30 years, and people act as if he's appeared too much, yet want luthor, a guy who's been in every superman film...and the only supes film he wasnt in, he was replaced by a guy that was essentially exactly like him....

Then again, why should I be surprised. Logic and rationality left these boards in 2004.

I agree. I just want to see Supes battle Zod and maybe the zoners sometime down the line.


I think Zod being used in SV alot hasnt helped any either.

That could be it. I've also read he's had quite a run in the comics too. I haven't collected Superman comics in a while.

[GreenKToo]

I dont think so...fanboys here have been whining about Zod before Season 9 of SV, and even then, it shouldnt matter how much he appears in SV.

I think this is related to ongoing "Donner Backlash" that hopefully these boards will grow out of.
Possibily, but who really knows. While Zods not my first choice of a villain, I wouldn't be totally opposed if he were done right...

[The Batman]

I agree. I just want to see Supes battle Zod and maybe the zoners sometime down the line.

Honestly, I bet the general audience would rather see Superman vs Zod than the fan favorite "Business man" Lex....

People wouldnt hate Zod if he didnt appear in the Donner movies. If Zod were in John Brynes Superman run or TAS, we wouldnt even be having this discussion. People would be begging to have him in the movie if that were the case.

[Bad Superman]

I'd think boxing and just street fighting.
It would be kool to see Superman get his a$$ kicked by a being just as strong, but the bad guy uses some form of martial art..
supes would then have to train with the BAT...lol, I kid I kid.

:woot:

Boxing and street fighting are the way to go and maybe one or two throwing moves from a martial art that doesn't look fancy. Supes is all about raw power.

[Bad Superman]

Honestly, I bet the general audience would rather see Superman vs Zod than the fan favorite "Business man" Lex....

People wouldnt hate Zod if he didnt appear in the Donner movies. If Zod were in John Brynes Superman run or TAS, we wouldnt even be having this discussion. People would be begging to have him in the movie if that were the case.

I agree. Quoting GreenKToo: I'm hoping for a knock down drag out fight with lots of collateral damage. Be that against whomever is or are the villians in the first film. As for Zod I just hope we see him sometime down the line on the new franchise. I can even imagine a possible teaser trailer voice over: KNEEL BEFORE ZOD. . . Im pretty sure it would cause an instant geekgasm in all of us.

[The Batman]

I agree. Quoting GreenKToo: I'm hoping for a knock down drag out fight with lots of collateral damage. Be that against whomever is or are the villians in the first film. As for Zod I just hope we see him sometime down the line on the new franchise. I can even imagine a possible teaser trailer voice over: KNEEL BEFORE ZOD. . . Im pretty sure it would cause an instant geekgasm in all of us.

Agreed. Superman vs Zod would be like "Matrix Revolutions" Neo vs. Agent Smith to the extreme

[Young Superman]

The reason I don't want Zod or Kara Zor-El in the reboot, is because i want Kal-El to be the only survivor of the planet Krypton in the new series of films.

[Webhead2006]

sounds cool greenktoo

[GreenKToo]

I've always liked the idea of having zod be from a sister planet..one thats close by, but very war like..
You could have it being destroyed along with Krypton when their shared red sun went nova, hence Kal would be the last son of krypton.

[Webhead2006]

well they could always do the argo city/planet deal for zod and or supergirl.

[Man of Tomorrow]

We already know the villains are Brainiac and Luthor.

We aren't getting Zod, thank goodness.

[solidsnake86]

Isn't that funny, though? Zod's only been in 1.5 Superman films...hasnt had a big screen appearance in nearly 30 years, and people act as if he's appeared too much, yet want luthor, a guy who's been in every superman film...and the only supes film he wasnt in, he was replaced by a guy that was essentially exactly like him....

Then again, why should I be surprised. Logic and rationality left these boards in 2004.

I think you may be even a bit too generous with the .5 because he was in the first what, minute of STM, lol. I think you opened a thread about things fanboys think are true but actually aren't, right. I think zod being over used is this myth that somehow people think is true when really he wasn't close to being used as much as lex. Now I think most people agree that they don't want to see zod in the first movie, but I think it would be ashame not to revisit the character if this new movie gets sequels seeing as how zod is one of his best villains both story wise and visually.

[The Batman]

Honestly, if they said Zod was going to be in the next superman movie, fanboys would complain....and then they'd still go see the movie. And most of them would be satisfied.

[dark_b]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=66460

[FilmNerdJamie]

IESB Exclusive Confirmed! Superman Reboot Coming Christmas 2012! (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9424:iesb-exclusive-confirmed-superman-reboot-coming-christmas-2012&catid=41:news&Itemid=71)

[batman44]

Now we have we heard holiday 2012 before? Hmmmmmm

Edit: Nevermind..

[dark_b]

i hope we get the director soon.

[batman44]

Agreed. Crossing my fingers for a June announcement.

[dark_b]

why june?

[batman44]

No major reason other than it's next month.

[RachelDawes]

I'll be greedy and hope for a May announcement. :woot:

[ohmshalone]

Update on DC Comic Book Movies (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101688-update-on-dc-comic-book-movies)

Not sure if this is new-thread worthy, but Superman is possibly being seen for a 2012 holiday release. There are also other movies being considered, including a Flash movie and a movie based on characters from........MAD MAGAZINE?!?! :huh:

[louiebling$]

IESB Exclusive Confirmed! Superman Reboot Coming Christmas 2012! (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9424:iesb-exclusive-confirmed-superman-reboot-coming-christmas-2012&catid=41:news&Itemid=71)
You guys really don't get enough credit

[Dark_Lord]

i hope we get the director soon.

I'm more worried about who they'll cast as Superman. It's my biggest fear. My second biggest is the costume. Everything else comes after that, including the director. It may seem weird, but the casting of Superman and the look of the costume is more important to me. We'll, obviously, learn about the director first and the cast later.

[FatmanReturns]

So excited about this!

[solidsnake86]

Well they did say we should be hearing more news soon and by having it confirmed (good job IESB) that means its really only a matter of time before they announce a director and it will probably be sooner rather than later.

[Showtime]

You guys really don't get enough credit

It's sad really. :csad:

Well they did say we should be hearing more news soon and by having it confirmed (good job IESB) that means its really only a matter of time before they announce a director and it will probably be sooner rather than later.

Yep. :cwink:

[Webhead2006]

yea not really needed a thread for it. since we been talking about the possiblity of holiday 2012 release for awhile over in the nolan thread. But hopefully they can score the winter 2012 spot. So that could leave could leave flash for a prime summer 2013 spot if flash does get its greenlit soon.

[Webhead2006]

yea i said over in the dc films thread, hopefully they can make this winter 2012 spot they are eyeing. It is good if they can get filming by spring/early summer next yr. I would love if it does get winter 2012 spot, so it can leave flash and if any minor dc films are planned for 2013 release to grab a nice spot in 2013 schedule like may/ or july spots. As for superman man i really hope we get director locked in soon. and hopefully casting under way between like sept-dec of this yr.

[Raiden]

I think WB is rushing toward it, but I think it is due to the court's decision that will revert the rights of Superman to Siegel/Shuster's estate in 2013.

[Excelsior.]

Hopefully the general audience doesn't burn out on Superhero movies by then.

[Bad Superman]

That means news it isn't long before we read or hear pre-production news. . . . :up::up:

[Jake Cassidy]

Batman and Superman in the same year would be the greatest year for comic book movies ever. :woot:

I really hope Wonder Woman, Flash and Aquaman get off the ground this time.

[FCEEVIPER]

Update on DC Comic Book Movies (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101688-update-on-dc-comic-book-movies)

Not sure if this is new-thread worthy, but Superman is possibly being seen for a 2012 holiday release. There are also other movies being considered, including a Flash movie and a movie based on characters from........MAD MAGAZINE?!?! :huh:
Nice, I can't wait!

[kalelkilla]

Solid job, Show.

[FCEEVIPER]

Batman and Superman in the same year would be the greatest year for comic book movies ever. :woot:

I really hope Wonder Woman, Flash and Aquaman get off the ground this time.
Yes, yes, and YES!

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't know if you're a Marvel fan or not, but Avengers is coming out in 2012 as well. The next 2 years are gonna be ****in' awesome. Thor, GL, CA, B3, Avengers and Superman. Wow.

[Raiden]

I don't know if you're a Marvel fan or not, but Avengers is coming out in 2012 as well. The next 2 years are gonna be ****in' awesome. Thor, GL, CA, B3, Avengers and Superman. Wow.

Yeah, in 2012 we will have The Avengers (with Iron Man, Thor, and Capt. America), Batman, and Superman movies all in one year. :wow: It could be the greatest year of superhero movies ever (followed by 2011 when we get Green Lantern, Thor, First Class, and Capt. America in one summer).

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I've been wanting to see a December superhero movie for a while now. Fingers crossed.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

So with the release date tentatively scheduled for December 2012, when would shooting start? Spring/Summer of next year?

[Abraham]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XKZzywxP6P4/R1SyPyx8wSI/AAAAAAAAAzQ/-EbtA4Rzv6s/s1600-R/Action093feb46.jpg

Its going to be a very Merry Christmas

[Abraham]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3567018902_ee6984ae21.jpg

Means we'll be getting a director announced in the next couple months

[NotFadeAway]

Superman really is perfect for a winter release.

[Abraham]

Superman really is perfect for a winter release.

sure worked well back in '78 :D

[mclay18]

Showtime's been saying this for months now. They've just decided to confirm it now.

[Crook]

I think WB is rushing toward it, but I think it is due to the court's decision that will revert the rights of Superman to Siegel/Shuster's estate in 2013.
It's no doubt spurred by the legal issues, but the release date they're aiming for is just under 3 years away. That is plenty of time to get things rolling, especially with Nolan/Goyer spearheading the project. This isn't like Fox greenlighting an X-Men film without a cast, and a target date of one year. :funny:

[bgshw44]

It's sad really. :csad:



Yep. :cwink:

we appreciate you guys!

[JackMercy]

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/05/green-lantern-slide-from-warners-presentation-pic.html

:word:

[Showtime]

Showtime's been saying this for months now. They've just decided to confirm it now.

Somebody was paying attention. :cwink:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Somebody was paying attention. :cwink:

Nah, others noticed it but chose not to suck up :hehe:

[The Batman]

Nah, others noticed it but chose not to suck up :hehe:

This.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Showtime and Jamie did say something about this. Personally I'd perfer for Superman to be a Summer movie but thats just my opinion. Oh well, I just hope the next movie is good and not connected to the Donnerverse.

[Showtime]

It's Christmas 2012 as of now.

Christmas 2012

:pal:

Hobbit's Chances Of Hitting 2012 Get Smaller
Written by Peter Georgiou
Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:32

There will be a Hobbit movie, eventually. The universe of little people has made too much money not to see the flicker of the big screen again, but it now seems like a delay or even more delays depending on what you've been reading, are inevitable. I'm going to provide you with a rudimentary time line of the saga that has been "The Hobbit". Try to stay awake.

There has been a little bit of a soap opera type atmosphere surrounding "The Hobbit". Let's start in November 09 when Peter Jackson's talked to a German website MovieReporter.Net, mentioning "The Hobbit" would be filming Summer 2010. The Wrap followed up with information that the part one of the two part flick would be released in Summer 2012 rather than 2011, a delay of a year. These are the days of our lives.

Collider then spoke with Peter Jackson in December and the producer of "The Hobbit" denied the rumors that the film would be pushed back to a 2012 release date. Cut to January, where The Trades, as covered by our very own Jamie Williams, dropped another log into the fire when speaking with WB's King Alan Horn. "The Hobbit" would most likely be released in the fourth quarter of 2012. Sir Ian McKellen even threw his pointy hat into the mix when he announced via his website a couple weeks ago, that "The Hobbit" would start filming July 2010 as covered by IESB. As the world turns.

Now Ian McKellen has changed the start date for "The Hobbit" on his website to "at a time to be announced". This combined with Andy Serkis' telling Digital Spy today that "The Hobbit" will start production by the end of the year, helps waft the stench of what already reeks of delay. Need I mention the ongoing issues with MGM? If this information holds true, we're looking at a big fat empty slot in 2012 for New Line, which we all know really means Warner Bros. The young and the restless.

With the news that the NolanConglomerate has taken control over the Man of Steel, is it possible Superman could now be flying on the fast track to a Winter 2012 release? Purely speculation on my part, but it could come from a logical place. Jeff Robinov revealed in an interview with The Wall Street Journal back in August of 2008, that The Brothers Warner thought about releasing a sort of sequel "Superman Returns" featuring Batman in December 2009. Merry Christmas?

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...news&Itemid=71


Hmm...in the end this guy speculates Superman in Winter 2012?

Sounds like more fanboy speculation to me..... :hehe:

Sounds more like being 100% right to me. :dry:

I guess you need new "insiders". :csad:

[Jake Cassidy]

Why would you prefer it to be a summer movie? Does it really matter when it's released?

I think that with Batman 3 and Avengers being released that summer, Superman's going to do much better away from them.

[GreenKToo]

Ok, next should be the director announcement. The films about 2 and a half years away, so it should be fairly soon.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think WB is rushing toward it, but I think it is due to the court's decision that will revert the rights of Superman to Siegel/Shuster's estate in 2013.
This could be a blessing in disguise. It kick started the reboot.

[echostation]

Hey what if the next Superman movie was heavily influenced in continuity by the Donner films? I think that would be a huge hit...

[GreenKToo]

Awesome. A director announcement coming sooner rather than later huh, with a wink no less.

[cklockwork]

a holiday release is good. Superman Returns could've used it... might of fared better. that and a villain.

[Excel]

All this confirms is that IESB is clearly all over this movie.

So...showtime....updates??

[Excel]

Yep. :cwink:

Elaborate you news hoarding bastard :cwink:

[solidsnake86]

Who knows, they might even have a director or a short list by now. With it coming out in christmas 2012 we know that there going to have to start filming latest by fall of next year (also part of the legal ramifications of them ruling it had to be in production by the end of 2011). Obviously Goyer is working on the script and most likely has a draft. So we should be hearing of a director very soon and who knows, we may even hear about some casting by the end of this year. I'm enjoying this because between green lantern, batman 3 and superman, possibly even the flash, we'll be getting steady news on each project.

[Bad Superman]

It's gonna be one cool Christmas in 2012.

[kalelkilla]

If they have a release date, I'm pretty sure they have a short list of directors methinks. Look how fast Xmen first class came together. They went from the director leaving to being ready to shoot within a few short months. There is always more production on a movie than we can know about.

[Bad Superman]

If they have a release date, I'm pretty sure they have a short list of directors methinks. Look how fast Xmen first class came together. They went from the director leaving to being ready to shoot within a few short months. There is always more production on a movie than we can know about.

I would kill to be part of the Superman production team.

[dark_b]

I'm more worried about who they'll cast as Superman. It's my biggest fear. My second biggest is the costume. Everything else comes after that, including the director. It may seem weird, but the casting of Superman and the look of the costume is more important to me. We'll, obviously, learn about the director first and the cast later.i thought that the characters and story are more important

:awesome::oldrazz:

[matrix_ghost]

So with the release date tentatively scheduled for December 2012, when would shooting start? Spring/Summer of next year?

In an ideal world yes , which means that they can have a year or so to work on the VFX.
However they could also opt to star shooting in oct or even november.
Look at the Green Lantern. The movie comes out next year in June 2011 and currently they're midway shooting.

Spider-man 3 started filming in Jan 2006 ( and wrapped July 2006) for a May 2007 release.
Even Superman Returns started filming in March 05 ( till Nov i think) for a June 2006 release.

[louiebling$]

:pal:



Sounds more like being 100% right to me. :dry:

I guess you need new "insiders". :csad:
BURN![/Kelso]


Really though...this board is pretty damn lucky we got insiders... and time after time.... People doubt Jamie and Show. In the end they are right regardless of the flack they get and no matter how many times they get uncredited... I really do commend you guys cuz your out there with the Sharks.

[louiebling$]

Edit

[Excel]

The next 12 months are going to be crew and then cast.

I'd bet we get an actor for superman next spring.

[GreenKToo]

I'm just wondering if the director announcement is imminent.

[Sam]

Sounds more like being 100% right to me. :dry:

I guess you need new "insiders". :csad:

Im just going to say this: If they make a good and inspiring Superman movie, it will rock december box office and make tons of money.

Thats what SUperman is about. Inspiring and hope. Everybody is on this mood on xmas!

[dark_b]

Im just going to say this: If they make a good and inspiring Superman movie, it will rock december box office and make tons of money.

Thats what SUperman is about. Inspiring and hope. Everybody is on this mood on xmas!this is not true.

it doesnt matter how good or how dumb or how simple it is. if you follow the forumula you will make money. but to really brake records and make billions the movie needs to click with the masses. noone knows how to do this. if they would we would get them every year.

[SuperAl]

if the movie has tons of action and is visually appealing it'll make tons of cash. SR just didnt have much going for it, the tv spots were character pieces, the only action scenes they showed was him catchin some crap. No one really knew what the story was because the trailers were kinda misleading and they kept the whole Lex's island scheme a secret.

As long as they give audiences a legit villain that just looks completely badass like brainiac, darkseid, doomsday and people see it in a trailer or tv spot it'll draw a lot of people and create a ton of hype.

And of course cast Tom Welling! and a lex luthor that isnt a senior citizen

[GreenKToo]

I agree with the Lex part.

[Sam]

this is not true.

it doesnt matter how good or how dumb or how simple it is. if you follow the forumula you will make money. but to really brake records and make billions the movie needs to click with the masses. noone knows how to do this. if they would we would get them every year.

I didnt understand a word of what u say here.

Ï think u dont understand my post, because u say "this is not true" and then say the same as me, with other words.

[JackMercy]

this is not true.

it doesnt matter how good or how dumb or how simple it is. if you follow the forumula you will make money. but to really brake records and make billions the movie needs to click with the masses. noone knows how to do this. if they would we would get them every year.

Exactamundo. Much of it is indeed "luck," depending on where we are as a culture and society at the time...

I'm kind of re-posting something I just did elsewhere on this board, but I feel it's relevant here:

When you're spending the kind of money studios have been spending lately on potential "blockbuster" pics such as a Superman or a Green Lantern film...everything is a risk.

I think I may have quoted this 100 times already on this board, but...

"Nobody knows anything." -- William Goldman

As far as the tone/approach of a future Superman pic goes, I would say wait and see...you really haven't heard anything yet...

:word:

[solidsnake86]

I was just thinking that we know a lot about the picture so far even with the villains showing up. I mean back when returns was filming we had no clue what it was about or much about the villains at the early stages.

[Dark Knight]

:pal:



Sounds more like being 100% right to me. :dry:

I guess you need new "insiders". :csad:








Haha...when I said that, I was being sarcastic. I was being sarcastic, just like you and Jamie enjoy being "sarcastic" from time to time.

The article also took a jab at "fanboys", when IMO, you and Jaimie are "fanboys" yourselves are you not?

Hearing that this new Superman film is being targeted for a Holiday 2012 release is not really news Show IMO.

It's been talked about and discussed on these and other boards for over a year now at one time or another...but you guys can pat yourselves on the back as much as you like.

Plus, I don't need new "insiders" when I have you and the "all knowing" Jaime right? :word: :oldrazz:

[Showtime]

Haha...when I said that, I was being sarcastic. I was being sarcastic, just like you and Jamie enjoy being "sarcastic" from time to time.

I guess it's hard to tell with you because we're so much better at it.

The article also took a jab at "fanboys", when IMO, you and Jaimie are "fanboys" yourselves are you not?

Not in the direct sense of the word. Lower end of the chart. In other words, not like you.

Hearing that this new Superman film is being targeted for a Holiday 2012 release is not really news Show IMO.

It's been talked about and discussed on these and other boards for over a year now at one time or another...but you guys can pat yourselves on the back as much as you like.

Right, talked about by Jamie and myself. Then the head of Time Warner comes out and confirms what Jamie and myself have been saying on the boards and posted in articles on IESB.

For non news there are sure a lot of websites reporting it. Funny.

Plus, I don't need new "insiders" when I have you and the "all knowing" Jaime right? :word: :oldrazz:

At least now you get it.

[Kal El Vis]

Not in the direct sense of the word. Lower end of the chart. In other words, not like you.

This is pretty hi-larious....

Anyone who posts so much on a COMIC BOOK MESSAGE BOARD that they become a "moderator" is DEFINITELY a "fanboy".

In the truest sense of the word.

[louiebling$]

This is pretty hi-larious....

Anyone who posts so much on a COMIC BOOK MESSAGE BOARD that they become a "moderator" is DEFINITELY a "fanboy".

In the truest sense of the word.
Wtf??? How does someone who becomes a Mod =Mega Fan Boy? That just means Mirko seen leadership Qualities in him :huh:

[Kal El Vis]

Wtf??? How does someone who becomes a Mod =Mega Fan Boy? That just means Mirko seen leadership Qualities in him :huh:

Miss this part?

Anyone who posts so much on a COMIC BOOK MESSAGE BOARD that they become a "moderator" is DEFINITELY a "fanboy".

I can tell it's difficult for you to understand.. But if you read it again, you just MIGHT get it.

And no one said "mega" ANYTHING but YOU.

[Webhead2006]

yea there is plently of time for production for the film if they do land winter 2012 release date. All they need to do is get director on board by end of summer, hopefully lock in a few cast memebers by the end of the year/early next yr. And hopefully be in production by april/may 2011 at the latest. Hopefully it all turns out to be good.

[Showtime]

This is pretty hi-larious....

Anyone who posts so much on a COMIC BOOK MESSAGE BOARD that they become a "moderator" is DEFINITELY a "fanboy".

In the truest sense of the word.

...and anybody cares about what you say because?

I am sure I won't have to worry about responding to your "black and white" outlook on things much longer. Now that...his "hi-larious".

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The response to Show and Jamie being right by a couple of posters is funny as hell. It just reeks of jealously. "Oh that Showtime and Jamie think that they are so great!"

Lets see the list of acomlishments:

Things they've said that the studio was looking into have actually panned out. (Everything is subject to change but right now WB are looking at a Chrismas release in 2012)Unlike other goobers they actually have real sources and don't post outlandish hopeful rumors.

They started a fine successful website and are writing for another one.

What are have you guys done?

Complain that Jamie and Show don't know what they are talking about because it doesn't match up with your fantasies??? Thats beyond an epic fail my friends.

Nobody is asking you to kiss ass but you have to respect that they aren't full of s**t and that they have been correct...alot!

And there are different kinds of fanboys. Show and Jamie aren't the nutty kind.

[Excelsior.]

I just hope Superman doesn't suffer from Superhero fatigue. 2011 and 2012 will be oversaturated with Superhero flicks.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'm a Superman fanboy, so what?

I'm sure Showtime can relate to this, even if that is my fav character I just want to know the truth of what's going on (Supes).

Example:

I'm not even the biggest Spidey fan but posted this on Andrew Garfield being a contender LOOOOONG before anyone made an actual article including his name.

The article was never made but back in 06-13-08

http://forums.superherohype.com/show...277086&page=41 (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=277086&page=41)

I got the info via email on the article and was told DH or AICN was running it, but when I searched for the article on those sites it never "officially" made it online.

I got some pm's saying nobody has mentioned his name and I "made it up"

Now look at the top 5 list and see who's name is there :rolleyes:



People just get impatient on news, and when they finally hear something, they want it official RIGHT AWAY. Hell, I still get like that myself. It doesn't mean Showtime is just a silly fanboy making up details.

[Excel]

Arguing over whose the bigger fanboy?

Seriously?

[epc11223]

i thought this thread was about wb superman reboot 3.0: christopher nolan? noone should be commenting on who's the bigger fanboy or not or the mods for that matter. it's getting ridiculous. there are times when i get thrown off track but sheesh.

anyways, if superman is targeted for holiday 2012, i'm thinking that they're going to announce a director by august/september (just after comic con). i think they're saving comic con to be mostly about green lantern and it will be a quiet press release for superman. so that'd be sept 2010, then they'll probably announce some of the cast by november 2010, they're going to leave superman for last because they're going to want to pick the right person. i think by like feb 2011 they'll announce the casting of superman. july 2011 will probably be production. that will take you to feb 2011. that should give plenty of time for post production and then build up for holiday 2012. what do some of you guys think for the time frame? any guesses?

[Showtime]

Wtf??? How does someone who becomes a Mod =Mega Fan Boy? That just means Mirko seen leadership Qualities in him :huh:

Apparently I am the World's Biggest Fanboy. Exciting. :hehe:

The response to Show and Jamie being right by a couple of posters is funny as hell. It just reeks of jealously. "Oh that Showtime and Jamie think that they are so great!"

Lets see the list of acomlishments:

Things they've said that the studio was looking into have actually panned out. (Everything is subject to change but right now WB are looking at a Chrismas release in 2012)Unlike other goobers they actually have real sources and don't post outlandish hopeful rumors.

They started a fine successful website and are writing for another one.

What are have you guys done?

Complain that Jamie and Show don't know what they are talking about because it doesn't match up with your fantasies??? Thats beyond an epic fail my friends.

Nobody is asking you to kiss ass but you have to respect that they aren't full of s**t and that they have been correct...alot!

And there are different kinds of fanboys. Show and Jamie aren't the nutty kind.

Aw shucks. :atp:

Arguing over whose the bigger fanboy?

Seriously?

Well the argument is over, you're here! :oldrazz:

i thought this thread was about wb superman reboot 3.0: christopher nolan? noone should be commenting on who's the bigger fanboy or not or the mods for that matter. it's getting ridiculous. there are times when i get thrown off track but sheesh.


Aren't you the same dude who kept talking about Welling playing Superman in the casting thread after I told you to stop and now I had to close it? :huh:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

My point is that we are all fanboys if we are here. The other point I was making, is that even if you are a fanboy it doesn't mean the info you post is going to be rumor/or tampered with.

Some people have been commenting that Showtime is boasting, or is less of an "insider" than he says or something. I don't see it that way, and you know me... If I did, I would say it :o Honestly since I've known Showy he has been pretty objective on rumors that come in, and I've never seen him add creative details for articles.

I don't take sides, just calling things how I see it.

[epc11223]

Apparently I am the World's Biggest Fanboy. Exciting. :hehe:



Aw shucks. :atp:



Well the argument is over, you're here! :oldrazz:



Aren't you the same dude who kept talking about Welling playing Superman in the casting thread after I told you to stop and now I had to close it? :huh:


right after you said to stop, i did stop. secondly, i wasn't talking about who the bigger fanboy was, i was simply saying that for smallville fans who aren't privy to your posts or behind the scenes, they had a logical reason to believe that the smallville cast could potentially be for the reboot considering its the last season of the show and smallville is supposed to be the end of the journey of clark becoming superman and to start portraying superman. especially since tom welling gave a small chance that they may continue in some sort of fashion after season 10.

if you look at my past posts, i even commended you and the other staff members for giving information that is accurate. i was never once disrespectful or said anything about who was a bigger fanboy, i was merely defending my case. it propelled into a whole debate because there were people who insulted my intelligence by saying that it was completely ridiculous. but again, if you look back, i stopped once you told everyone to stop as i am not here to cause any problems and if you look back, i was not an instigator in any sense of the word.

[Webhead2006]

i would say get superman actor first so it gives them a good couple of months prior to filming starting to bulk up, training for what ever stunt stuff, and to work with the costume designers to get costume just right. Characters i would have be last to cast would be jimmy/perry actors in my opinion. We should have superman/clark first, then lois lane picked, then villains and so on and so forth.

I would love if filming is started up by april/may 2011. Which given the standard 3-5 months of shooting most films due. Would leave plently of time for post production to be done and ready for winter 2012 release. So hopefully things will be moving along once we get director announced. Then hopefully location locked down, and then crewing coming on board and sets getting built.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

3 things to watch out for:

Director announced first. Major casting choices second. Shooting date confirmed third.


All of this= one happy board of "fanboys" ;)

[\S/JcDc\S/]

3 things to watch out for:

Director announced first. Major casting choices second. Shooting date confirmed third.


All of this= one happy board of "fanboys" ;)

[\S/JcDc\S/]

3 things to watch out for:

Director announced first. Major casting choices second. Shooting date confirmed third.


All of this= one happy board of "fanboys" ;)

[NotFadeAway]

3 things to watch out for:

Director announced first. Major casting choices second. Shooting date confirmed third.


All of this= one happy board of "fanboys" ;)

I sure do hope so. It would be nice to see something all Superman fans could rally around.

[GreenKToo]

For me, the director announcement is just as big as the casting one....

[epc11223]

while it'd be nice to have all the fans agree on something, i think the next supeman movie is going to be geared more towards the general audience. actually, i take that back because it really depends on the director and how much of the comic influence we get in the new movie. if we get a director that's like jon favreau, than it should be more comic-y, but if we get a director more along the lines of singer, it would be less action-y more story. nolan does both action and story but it he's not directing, just producing. i think it also depends on the suit that superman has. if it deviates a lot from the comics, it's going to be split amongst the fans no matter how good the movie is. people will say "well the suit looked nothing like the comics, but the movie was ok" and then comments like "who cares if it wasn't exactly like the comics, it was an awesome movie".

[NotFadeAway]

I still don't think the WB truly knows what to do with the character.

I'm still very curious to hear the details of the script that Goyer and Jonah Nolan write. THAT will tell me everything I need to know about this project.

[Ita-KalEl]

I still don't think the WB truly knows what to do with the character.

I'm still very curious to hear the details of the script that Goyer and Jonah Nolan write. THAT will tell me everything I need to know about this project.
I don't know...
At this point the script should be almost written and approved.

[GreenKToo]

Agreed. I'm guessing the script is done by now as well.

[Sam]

All of this= one happy board of "fanboys" ;)

fanboys will never be happy! lol

What u can expect:

Director annoucement = "i prefere director xx", "i prefere director yy", "is wb crazy, this guy dont like superman", "he is not a fan of comic book", etc, etc

Cast annoucement = "he doesnt look like superman", "he is too small", etc, etc, etc

heh

[Maze]

:woot: That's for sure. ;) buut maybe they will found a team that could satisfied most. ( and Nolan is a good asset )

If only we had some solid rumors to prepares ourself..

[DarkKnight FTW]

fanboys will never be happy! lol

What u can expect:

Director annoucement = "i prefere director xx", "i prefere director yy", "is wb crazy, this guy dont like superman", "he is not a fan of comic book", etc, etc

Cast annoucement = "he doesnt look like superman", "he is too small", etc, etc, etc

heh

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: I totally agree with this sentiment.

[XxDelta09xX]

IESB Exclusive Confirmed! Superman Reboot Coming Christmas 2012! (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9424:iesb-exclusive-confirmed-superman-reboot-coming-christmas-2012&catid=41:news&Itemid=71)

Man 2012 is gonna OWN!!!:wow:

[Webhead2006]

totally \S/ i cant wait to have those 3 things.

[Catman]

I can't get excited for this movie till a director is announced. Chris Nolan producing is fine and all, but if Batman AND Superman are being released in the same year then Nolan's contributions are gonna be very limited.

[matrix_ghost]

I'm wondering if WB is going after the Christman 2012 release date because of Superman 1 or for more strategic reasons.
The period post dec. seems to be a pretty "dead'" timeframe with not alot of blockbusters coming out giving the big december movies with plenty of time to continue. That certainly has helped blockbusters like titanic , the 3 LOTR movies and of course Avatar to make some serious cash.

This and next year's holiday season are more packed then usual so it'll be interesting to see how the big blockbusters like Tron LEgacyor MI-4 will be hold up.

[Alonsovich]

It would be nice to see something all Superman fans could rally around.


:pal::pal::pal::pal:

[Alonsovich]

I don't know...
At this point the script should be almost written and approved.

With TW president confirming a release date? I'd even say they're well into production design...:cmad:

[solidsnake86]

Well IESB just posted that Del Toro stepped down from directing the hobbit so its safe to say that thats one of the major reasons why superman is probably going to be released in that christmas time slot among many others. I agree with notfadeaway that the script is probably the most important piece of info, for me at least, that will tell us what direction there taking. Lets face it when they announce a director probably more than half will complain because everyone has this idea of who the director should be. IMO, as long as the script is good and the director is competent the movie will be fine. I have a feeling this time out they may actually leak the script or maybe the details, I mean how did latino review find out what the movie was about so early? I don't think announcing brainiac as a villain was an accident.

[GreenKToo]

Like another poster said, I can't get too excited until a director is announced. I know its supposedly happening, but it could also very easily not happen.
I'll feel better about it once some more info comes out.

[antsman41]

I wonder how much this Superman Reboot will overlap with Batman 3?

Batman 3 main filming will be 2011 for summer 2012, so I assume Superman will be between mid-late 2011 to early 2012 for filming time...

[GreenKToo]

They should overlap a good bit.
IF I remember correctly, casting for SR took place in 04, filming started in early 05, and it was released in summer 06. Someone correct me if I wrong about that.
If thats right, it was about a good two years for everything. Right now, we're two and half years away from dec 2012.
I dont remember what month in 04 singer was picked to direct.

[Webhead2006]

yea that is the thing, we dont know for sure how much say/control nolan is going to have on it. plus it also counts on what time nolan starts working on batman 3, and when exactly superman is also going to get shooting. i hope they do get things going well and production runs well for the film with no issues and all that. Also yea i still cant wait for director to be announced, and then reveal where they plan to shoot, then of course tentative date shoot is going to start.

[NotFadeAway]

Here is my thing.......

I don't trust Warner Bros. the least bit. They don't know how to do comic book films. They got there asses punked into into doing the Nolan Bat-films because there vision failed with Batman&Robin. You think the WB's vision of Batman is anything like the Nolan films, heck no it isn't, there vision of Batman is what we saw in Forever and BR, and let us not forget that before Nolan and after BR, they had a Batman Year One knockoff in development that reportedly had Alfred as a black mechanic named "Big Al". And then they tried to launch a Worlds Finest movie that they had re-written by Akiva G. because it was campy enough. They were out of options when Nolan came along. And before you you defend them with the current Green Lantern movie, if there had not been a public out cry, we would be getting a comedy starring Jack Black with the GL ring. Thats what Warners wanted, a comedy, a comedy with Jack Black, a comedy with Jack Black gaining powers, Green Lantern powers. Seriously, I know full well I'm a dip**** fanboy that talks a big game behind a computer screen, but is really that wrong and.or delusional of me to think that I could do the jobs and these wack pack of fools and do it better?

There treatment of Superman is the worst of all. Matrix Superman, Superman dying and Lois re-birthing him 21 days later, powerless Superman driving a Supes-mobile, giant spiders. It's like a damn comedy skit, this is so sad, it's amusing. And the first post in this thread in inaccurate. It reads something like, "So Superman is being rebooted.....again". No, No, no no no. Superman still has not been rebooted from the Donnerverse, Returns was not a reboot, it was a sequel. Hopefully, we are all clear on that by now. The Donnerverse Superman had not been Superman since 1986. Warner threw up there little clueless hands and made a sequel to a dead franchise. For many reasons, it failed (I could have predicted that. Oh wait, I did). So technically, we have yet to see a modern Superman film in over 20 years.

Now, I think David Goyer, Chris Nolan, and Jonah Nolan are very, very talented and I respect the hell out of them. How could I not. There body of work speaks for itself. But I hope everyone can understand my worry that once again, now that WB is back in charge, we might not get a true Superman film. When you look at the Nolans and Goyer's work, damn good work, but it's the opposite side of the fence. I don't want any of this bull Angry God, unleashed Superman crap thats been talked about. Thats not Superman, and I hope that Warner's didn't bring in the Nolans and Goyer for that sole reason. I've stated on several occasions that I feel like you can put the character of Superman IN a dark world and a dark surrounding, but it is to be the true blue boyscout Superman. You could then portray him as the silver lining, the shining light, the glimmer of true how, a black and white being in a grey world.

I do have also have optimism that Goyer and the Nolans can make a Superman film about the actual character of Superman. There certainly talented enough, thats obvious. But this is why I really would like to hear some true details about the script itself. Thats just as much on my mind as the director, and I feel that we will get a script director here anyway, which makes the writing all the more important. I just want some story details, then we can all talk more in-depth about cast and crew.

[Webhead2006]

yea it seems that man, in the past, and i really hope things are changing now with how dc is restructing itself and all that. But only time will tell how things will be.

[matrix_ghost]

They should overlap a good bit.
IF I remember correctly, casting for SR took place in 04, filming started in early 05, and it was released in summer 06. Someone correct me if I wrong about that.
If thats right, it was about a good two years for everything. Right now, we're two and half years away from dec 2012.
I dont remember what month in 04 singer was picked to direct.


I took these from SR wiki page
Singer was hired July 2004
Routh was officially announced Oct 04
Filming began in March 05 and continued till Nov 05

[NotFadeAway]

yea it seems that man, in the past, and i really hope things are changing now with how dc is restructing itself and all that. But only time will tell how things will be.


Now, to break from the negative nancy routine, here are the good things that I've heard so far:

- John Byrne's Man of Steel as a template for the character portrayal. Is it TAS or Birghtright, no, but it's in the same vein of character portrayal. It's more modern and different from Donnerman, with Clark being the real person, so this makes me happy.

- Braniac and Kryptonian mythology. This is actually a good way of working in an origin to a non-origin movie. I think it would actually be cool if Clark was working at the Daily Planet and established as Superman before he knew his kryptonian heritage and this is where he first learns of it. I do wish they would remove Luthor from the story and build to him in the sequel, ala no Joker in Begins. But whatever.

- The words modern, believable, and fun.

- At the end of the day, Goyer is a comic book buff. And Jonathan Nolan seems way more into sci-fi/fantasy genre work than Chris Nolan, who seems more practical. And at the end of the day, J. Nolan is the one helping write the script. And I wouldn't be shocked that, if the budget is infact restricted as I think it should be, we could see Jonathan Nolan making his directorial debut. This is IF the budget is restricted.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

- Braniac and Kryptonian mythology. This is actually a good way of working in an origin to a non-origin movie. I think it would actually be cool if Clark was working at the Daily Planet and established as Superman before he knew his kryptonian heritage and this is where he first learns of it.




It worked out well for Lois and Clark to slowly reveal him as Kryptonian after becoming Superman on his own. When he discovered his abilities and started using them, he decided to make a secret identity and become Superman. Kind of interesting take, instead of Jor-el pushing him towards that destiny he figures it out on his own.

They used a mysterious globe that when touched revealed moments on Krypton. :up:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I just realized that for the first time ever, we'll walk into a movie theater to see a Batman movie and a trailer for a Superman movie will come up before the feature. How cool is that?

[NotFadeAway]

It worked out well for Lois and Clark to slowly reveal him as Kryptonian after becoming Superman on his own. When he discovered his abilities and started using them, he decided to make a secret identity and become Superman. Kind of interesting take, instead of Jor-el pushing him towards that destiny he figures it out on his own.
They used a mysterious globe that when touched revealed moments on Krypton. :up:

I had forgotten about that. Thank you, sir. I did like that touch, that was one of the good things Lois and Clark did.

One of the biggest things I didn't like about S:TM was Jor-El telling Clark what to do, to become Superman like he never had a choice. I think it hurts the deepness of the character and makes it less layered. I like the idea of the Kents being pre-determined, but baby Kal-El needs to be sent to Earth simply to live. Even in a straight forward origin, I wouldn't have Clark/Superman discover the details of his Kryptonian origin until the third act.

I liked the globe, and I like the Jor-El/Lara holo-recording from TAS. Some kind of mixture between the two would be good. And I'd the Fortress to be constructed similiar to the TAS Fortress or it can be said that it was a base of Kryptonian research operations once headed by Jor-El on Earth.

[Excelsior.]

And Jonathan Nolan seems way more into sci-fi/fantasy genre work than Chris Nolan, who seems more practical.

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/top10_inception.jpg

[Young Superman]

Which Brainiac physical appearance wise do you guys want in the reboot.

[NotFadeAway]

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/top10_inception.jpg

I could be mistaken, but didn't Jonathan Nolan write the Inception script?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Well, no robots, that I'm sure of. I'm fond of a Brainiac like the one Johns/Frank created who could meet him on a physical level, but I also like the idea of a battle between brains and brawn.

[NotFadeAway]

Which Brainiac physical appearance wise do you guys want in the reboot.


You can actually have several.

I think one, you can have the T-1000-esque Smallville Braniac and then later reveal him his robotic appearence in which he takes the TAS shape. Along the way, maybe in a scene in which Braniac is talking about his interstellar conquests, have him take the form of the races that he has discovered, stored in his databanks, and then destroyed, one being the in the form of the green skinned alien Braniac.

Of course, my fanboy idea is for him to take appearence of and pose as Jor-El. And if your there reading, David Goyer, feel free to steal that idea.

[Anita18]

I could be mistaken, but didn't Jonathan Nolan write the Inception script?
Nope, Chris wrote and directed it himself.

Inception seems to merge sci-fi with Nolan's usual mind stuff. Jonah Nolan has only done Prestige and TDK so we can't say if he really gravitates towards sci-fi. He's supposed to be doing Spielberg's Interstellar, but God knows when that's gonna be made...

[dark_b]

- At the end of the day, Goyer is a comic book buff. And Jonathan Nolan seems way more into sci-fi/fantasy genre work than Chris Nolan, who seems more practical. And at the end of the day, J. Nolan is the one helping write the script. And I wouldn't be shocked that, if the budget is infact restricted as I think it should be, we could see Jonathan Nolan making his directorial debut. This is IF the budget is restricted.is there an interview where they said that he is more into scifi?

so if the budget is restricted then it makes sense to use a guy who never directed a movie in hes life and give him the superman franchise ?

[S_H_F_4839]

im ready for this movie I have hope that it will be better than superman returns and im not here to bash that film I just wasn't pleased by the level of action im hoping we get an action packed superman film a film that displays his abilities in all their glory I liked the suggestion of the fortress being built prior to clark coming to earth I could see it as a lab and also set up as a gateway into the phantom zone that jor el set up when he learned of kryptons inevitable destruction and the crystal he puts in the ship acts more like a compass than actually building the fortress. and the reason it has never been discovered is it has sort of a protection field set up that interferes with other forms of navagation such as compasses and gps is why its never been discovered I see it as sort of a bermuda triangle situation I think the main villan in the first film should be braniac or possibly parasite luthor and brainiac could make for a cool joker two faceish comparison