WB Superman Reboot 3.0: Christopher Nolan Edition

[GreenKToo]

True, but they're also the company that thought B&R and catwoman would be hits. Not to mention all the failed superman projects in the late 90's early 00's, and some would argue SR's lack of acceptance was their fault as well, they did greenlite it afterall.
I'm not saying they can't make a successful reboot, far from it, I think they can. In fact I agree with you about the directors having more freedom at WB. Thats why I think that if the reboot is a success, it will be mostly nolan and companies doing, not WB's, tho they will reap the rewards.

[The Batman]

Saying WB isnt sensible is just jaded fanboy talk. Like J. Howlett said, WB is the complete opposite of Fox: they give their directors a good amount of freedom. I cant imagine another studio greenlighting something like "Inception", even with the guy behind "TDK" directing.

They've had trouble trying to do comic movies, but the fact that they've restructured shows willingness to make it work...

[GreenKToo]

Maybe so, but they have to prove me wrong, not the other way around.
I hope that they do prove me wrong with Superman.

[Matt]

What about David Yates ( director of Order Of the Phoenix , Half blood Prince and Deahtly Hallows).
The guy definately gets the best performance of his characters and also is able to work with huge VFX shots.
It is a question if he wants to accept the job because it'll mean that once he wraps up work on Potter , he will immediatly have to start working on Supes. And coming off 2 movies made back-to-back , he would definately want some rest.

But should he accept the offer , what do you guys of Yates ?

Absolutely not.

[Webhead2006]

yea its ironic they done soem good things but they also screwed alot of things up too.

[raybia]

yea its ironic they done soem good things but they also screwed alot of things up too.

Historically yes but as of late they seem to be making all the right moves and the creation of DC Entertainment is one example of that.

Maybe, just maybe WB has learn from Christopher Nolan taking over the Batman franchise the secret recipe for making hits out of comic book characters:

Solid director with a core understanding of the character
Good writer(s)
Hands over approach by WB Brass

[J.Howlett]

Knowing WB...they have to know that this is their last shot at Superman. They have to get it absolutely right with Superman this time. I still love Superman Returns but I've come to terms with what it is and why they've decided to reboot.

This. Is. It. It's now or never for DC.

I'm still of the opinion that Wonder Woman is the trump card in DC's line up...she's something Marvel doesn't have. And if they nail Wonder Woman, DC easily passes Marvel, even though in terms of quality product, I think they've already surpassed them.

[Webhead2006]

yea i really hoping the right decisions will be made now and all that.

[kalelkilla]

Superman is in Great hands. Warner Bros. gives their filmmakers a lot more freedom than they get credit for. The Nolan's and Goyer are going to have even more freedom because of the money they have already made them.

It sounds like from past reincarnations of Superman, they are most interested in who is cast in the film. But I'm sure when it comes down to it, they are going to go with whatever the Nolan's suggest. This is their baby.

[Young Superman]

Del Toro could have fun with Superman if he opened the movie with Superman as a popular public American Icon until the public finds out that he is in fact an Alien which results in xenophobia and Superman having to regain not only the public's trust but also come to terms with his identity.

Cool Idea.

[raybia]

Thanks

[raybia]

For those who are familiar with SupermanTAS, shouldn't that series in large part be the basis for the next movie along with Byrne's Superman, All Star Superman, and Superman for all seasons?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Well, B:TAS wasn't a huge inspiration for the Nolan movies, so it's not necessary for them to do so with Superman and his cartoon.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'd say 99% of the "ideas" thrown around here stem from STAS. The way to handle corporate Lex, Metallo, and Brainiac in particular. I would have no problem if they used that as a starting reference point. It would be leaps above and beyond using Donner again for source material *shudders*

No offense to Donner fans. He was good for his time, but he had his time, let us have ours. :up:

[Webhead2006]

me too i would hope they at least take a look at how things were there along with what ever other sources they are using too.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree in that Superman: TAS would be a great template for the movie. Hell look at Last Son of Krypton how Batman was even mentioned in that series way before he ever showed up on the show gives Nolan a great way to satisfy fans who want to the two to be in the same universe without having to ever show him. Plus it gave Superman the right power level where his powers grew as he got older. For example in Last Son of Krypton he could barely lift a plane or guide it. But by the time of JLU "The Clash" he could not only guide a plane he could do it with one hand. See they did a lot of things right with Superman in that series the only problem with it IMO and all the DTV movies that followed it is that Timm is so huge fan of a Batman that he does doesn't use Superman to his full potential in JL because it would outshine Batman. He only showed that once when they thought Superman had died and it was more or less the he died and was friend than that he was their leader or someone they inspired to be like. That's the only thing I think is missing from Timm's Superman.

[Webhead2006]

yea that is good, and i agree it would be nice to see his powers develop and grow over course of film.

[Excelsior.]

Sense and WB is like oil and water. All WB sees is what film they think will make them the most CENTS, not what film makes the most SENSE to make.

No other movie studio would have the balls to release Watchmen as it was. None.

Inception has a 160 million budget.

Clint Eastwoods movies bomb and underperform all the time, yet he has 100% creative freedom.

Bryan Singer had more control in SR than he did in X2, a sequel. One of the reasons why he left FOX.

I'm not saying they're saints. They're still scum, but less scum than all other studios in Hollywood.

[raybia]

I agree in that Superman: TAS would be a great template for the movie.

That is what I was suggesting.

[BH/HHH]

I agree in that Superman: TAS would be a great template for the movie. Hell look at Last Son of Krypton how Batman was even mentioned in that series way before he ever showed up on the show gives Nolan a great way to satisfy fans who want to the two to be in the same universe without having to ever show him. Plus it gave Superman the right power level where his powers grew as he got older. For example in Last Son of Krypton he could barely lift a plane or guide it. But by the time of JLU "The Clash" he could not only guide a plane he could do it with one hand. See they did a lot of things right with Superman in that series the only problem with it IMO and all the DTV movies that followed it is that Timm is so huge fan of a Batman that he does doesn't use Superman to his full potential in JL because it would outshine Batman. He only showed that once when they thought Superman had died and it was more or less the he died and was friend than that he was their leader or someone they inspired to be like. That's the only thing I think is missing from Timm's Superman.

Great post :up:

[Mr. Earle]

Dini and Timm's animated series should be a template for Batman, Superman, and the Justice League.

[Young Superman]

I agree in that Superman: TAS would be a great template for the movie. Hell look at Last Son of Krypton how Batman was even mentioned in that series way before he ever showed up on the show gives Nolan a great way to satisfy fans who want to the two to be in the same universe without having to ever show him. Plus it gave Superman the right power level where his powers grew as he got older. For example in Last Son of Krypton he could barely lift a plane or guide it. But by the time of JLU "The Clash" he could not only guide a plane he could do it with one hand. See they did a lot of things right with Superman in that series the only problem with it IMO and all the DTV movies that followed it is that Timm is so huge fan of a Batman that he does doesn't use Superman to his full potential in JL because it would outshine Batman. He only showed that once when they thought Superman had died and it was more or less the he died and was friend than that he was their leader or someone they inspired to be like. That's the only thing I think is missing from Timm's Superman.

Agreed

[BH/HHH]

Dini and Timm's animated series should be a template for Batman, Superman, and the Justice League.

Definitely :up:

[hippie_hunter]

I'd say 99% of the "ideas" thrown around here stem from STAS. The way to handle corporate Lex, Metallo, and Brainiac in particular. I would have no problem if they used that as a starting reference point. It would be leaps above and beyond using Donner again for source material *shudders*

No offense to Donner fans. He was good for his time, but he had his time, let us have ours. :up:

I don't think that you get how influential the Donner material is on the Superman mythos or superhero movies in general.

While it shouldn't be the only source of inspiration like what Superman Returns did, but any Superman film has to have influences from the Donner Superman films. A Superman film needs to have many sources of inspiration, Donner, Byrne, Timm/Dini, etc.

[Sawyer]

I don't think that you get how influential the Donner material is on the Superman mythos or superhero movies in general.

While it shouldn't be the only source of inspiration like what Superman Returns did, but any Superman film has to have influences from the Donner Superman films. A Superman film needs to have many sources of inspiration, Donner, Byrne, Timm/Dini, etc.

Fleischer too! :up:

I also wonder how much inspiration might be taken from A Superman for All Seasons, given how Goyer/Nolan took so much from The Long Halloween for their Batman films...

[Jochimus]

While it shouldn't be the only source of inspiration like what Superman Returns did, but any Superman film has to have influences from the Donner Superman films. A Superman film needs to have many sources of inspiration, Donner, Byrne, Timm/Dini, etc.

I'd go a lot further than that; there's 70 years' worth of mythology covering multiple mediums - comics, radio, cartoons, TV, film - that IMO shouldn't be that hard to remix together while sprinkling in new twists to create something distinct from what's been done before.

[hippie_hunter]

Exactly, I want to see some Siegel and Shuster, Fleischer, Grant Morrison, etc.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

That is what I was suggesting.

I've been here since 2003. In that time everyone and their Mom has suggested this.

TAS is the template for most fans already.

[hippie_hunter]

I've been here since 2003. In that time everyone and their Mom has suggested this.

TAS is the template for most fans already.

People shouldn't get their hopes to high. I highly doubt that Nolan and Co. will use a cartoon as their basis just like they didn't use BTAS for their Batman films.

The influences I expect Nolan to use are:

- John Byrne: John Byrne is to Superman as Frank Miller is to Batman in updating Superman in the modern era. Like how Miller's grim and gritty is the basis for Batman, Byrne's influences on Superman are still felt throughout today.

- Richard Donner: Again, you can't deny what Richard Donner has done for Superman, even Nolan cited Donner as an inspiration for his Batman movies. I don't expect a complete aping of his style like what Bryan Singer did, but things like Donner's Fortress of Solitude, General Zod, etc. would probably be used by Nolan.

- Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster: The same way that Nolan used the early Bob Kane, Bill Finger, & Jerry Robinson Batman comics, I would expect Nolan to do the same with Superman. Afterall, he said that it is best not to stray too far from the roots of the character.

- Jeph Loeb : Let's face it, unless a deal is made with the Siegel family, Superman's Kryptonian origin isn't going appear on film. However, Superman for All Seasons isn't an origin story for Superman, but it goes in depth on who he is and how he came to be. The perfect way for Nolan to introduce Superman to a new audience. Nolan has already used Batman: The Long Halloween, another Loeb/Sale collaboration, he's familiar with the work. And Loeb is also an important influence on the Lex Luthor character in establishing and ending his Presidency.

[Young Superman]

I'd go a lot further than that; there's 70 years' worth of mythology covering multiple mediums - comics, radio, cartoons, TV, film - that IMO shouldn't be that hard to remix together while sprinkling in new twists to create something distinct from what's been done before.
Agreed

[BH/HHH]

People shouldn't get their hopes to high. I highly doubt that Nolan and Co. will use a cartoon as their basis just like they didn't use BTAS for their Batman films.

The influences I expect Nolan to use are:

- John Byrne: John Byrne is to Superman as Frank Miller is to Batman in updating Superman in the modern era. Like how Miller's grim and gritty is the basis for Batman, Byrne's influences on Superman are still felt throughout today.

- Richard Donner: Again, you can't deny what Richard Donner has done for Superman, even Nolan cited Donner as an inspiration for his Batman movies. I don't expect a complete aping of his style like what Bryan Singer did, but things like Donner's Fortress of Solitude, General Zod, etc. would probably be used by Nolan.

- Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster: The same way that Nolan used the early Bob Kane, Bill Finger, & Jerry Robinson Batman comics, I would expect Nolan to do the same with Superman. Afterall, he said that it is best not to stray too far from the roots of the character.

- Jeph Loeb : Let's face it, unless a deal is made with the Siegel family, Superman's Kryptonian origin isn't going appear on film. However, Superman for All Seasons isn't an origin story for Superman, but it goes in depth on who he is and how he came to be. The perfect way for Nolan to introduce Superman to a new audience. Nolan has already used Batman: The Long Halloween, another Loeb/Sale collaboration, he's familiar with the work. And Loeb is also an important influence on the Lex Luthor character in establishing and ending his Presidency.

Loved what you said about For All Seasons, its a superb introduction to Superman and could definitely be used as a template for the reboot.

[BH/HHH]

If Batman 3 is to start shooting in March for a July 2012 release and Superman is been released Christmas 2012 that doesn't give Nolan much time to oversee the Superman project as surely that will be casting when Batman 3 is shooting.

[MAN O STEEL]

I can't wait till we start getting casting news & basic story outlines. 2012 seems to far away :(





Steve

[Young Superman]

Agreed Steve.

[BH/HHH]

It will flyby there's the Green Lantern film and Batman 3 to distract us in between aswell as various other comic book movies. It'l be here before we know it.

[bgshw44]

it does go by so fast, you figure we will be getting a director announcement soon, then casting, before you know it it will be summer 2011 and they will be shooting, leaks, teaser trailer, full trailer, then bam, winter 2012! no matter how amazing the movie turns out to be, the build up is always better in my experience. try to enjoy it! i know it is hard!!

[BenReilly]

Some comments from Nolan from last night's Hero Complex Q&A, where he mentions how influential Donner's Superman was, towards his approach to Batman:

- Batman Begins was directly inspired by the Richard Donner Superman and Nolan pitched it as such. He called the Burton film “mad” and said that Donner’s structure and ensemble casting helped influence Begins. He believes that cast is the reason many of the superhero movies now have huge actors in all the small parts.

http://www.collider.com/2010/06/12/christopher-nolan-inception-3d-batman-3-hero-complex-film-festival/

He also took questions about his involvement in "Superman" ("I thought [David Goyer's] pitch was terrific and I didn't want it to not get done," but stressed he was only a producer on the project) and dished a little on "The Dark Knight," saying there was a direct connection to Richard Donner's "Superman" to his take on Batman: "I wanted to make the Batman film that would've been made in '78, '79...[Warner Brothers] never did the Dick Donner version of an extraordinary person in an ordinary world" with an esteemed cast filling out the supporting roles.

http://www.ifc.com/blogs/indie-eye/2010/06/christopher-nolan-no-3d-no-cel.php

[Excelsior.]

Nolan loves Superman 78. This is common knowledge.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Nolan calling Batman mad is pretty funny.

[BenReilly]

Nolan loves Superman 78. This is common knowledge.

It is. He's even cited it as the greatest superhero film of all time, which it is. :)

[Man of Tomorrow]

Is Bryan Singer/Bad Hat Harry still considered a producer on this?

Or did Warners pay off his contract?

[Excelsior.]

It is. He's even cited it as the greatest superhero film of all time, which it is. :)

Well Spidey 2 is but whatever.

[Jochimus]

Well Spidey 2 is but whatever.

If by "Spidey 2" you mean "Iron Man", I agree.

[M.O.Steel]

and if by spidey 2, you mean superman 2 regifted in a spidey suit, then yes.

all jokes aside, spidey 2 is great. citizen kane and the godfather. Jordan and Kobe, Pele and Maradona.

[hippie_hunter]

If Batman 3 is to start shooting in March for a July 2012 release and Superman is been released Christmas 2012 that doesn't give Nolan much time to oversee the Superman project as surely that will be casting when Batman 3 is shooting.
Of course it is. Nolan isn't directing it, just producing it. It's the same way that you have Robert Rodriguez overseeing Predators while he was making Machete.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Of course it is. Nolan isn't directing it, just producing it. It's the same way that you have Robert Rodriguez overseeing Predators while he was making Machete.

Correct. And Bryan Singer producing X-Men: First Class while he's making Jack the Giant Killer. Countless other examples too.

[hippie_hunter]

Well Spidey 2 is but whatever.

The Dark Knight > Superman the Movie > Iron Man > Spider-Man 2

[GreenKToo]

Is Bryan Singer/Bad Hat Harry still considered a producer on this?

Or did Warners pay off his contract?
Good question..I'd like to know that as well.

[Superark]

Good question..I'd like to know that as well.


Didn't they work it where WB would fulfill the "pay or play" deal with Singer by attaching him to another film project of WB's?

[GreenKToo]

Maybe so, but I havent heard for sure..I may have missed it tho.

[Webhead2006]

YEa for me i said it for months for me i would like to see them take elements from the best stuff of all eras. Find a good story those elements would work best in. And there you go. You have something new and fresh but at the same time using elements from the best parts of superman history.

As for nolan doing director job for batman 3 which is likely march-july, sure he probably wont be to hands on. But thats the thing we dont know how controlling he will be with the director on board or other producers on the project. Then same thing with wb execs and dc entertainment heads.

Then also we dont know for sure when production is going to happen just yet. So if they are gunning for winter 2012 release they will have to be shooting no later then june 2011 i would figure. If you want to have at least a good 4-5 months for shooting and at least 10/11 months for post production and all that.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Good question..I'd like to know that as well.

Showtime gave me the answer.


Bryan Singer/Bad Hat Harry will be listed as producer of the reboot, but they'll have zero involvement creatively.

[Webhead2006]

IT would be nice if they didnt need to be credited. But i know through legal stuff they would have to be. Like john peters on SR but he didnt really have say in things right?

[Dark Knight]

Well, I hope Chris convinces WB's to NOT be so close minded and insistent on casting an American actor only for the role of Superman in the Supes Reboot film he is producing. That type of close minded thinking is ignorant IMO. I think a bulked up Henry Cavill would be a great choice as Superman.

Now that Guillermo Del Toro has dropped out as director of the Hobbit, I think WB's and Nolan should take advantage and pursue him to direct their Superman reboot film. Del Toro has a great filmmaking mind, much like Chris Nolan, and I think Del Toro teaming with Chris Nolan, Emma Thomas, (maybe Wally Pfister), Jonah Nolan and David Goyer on the Superman film would create movie making cinema MAGIC together. Goyer has worked with Del Toro before on Blade 2 also.

[mclay18]

People shouldn't get their hopes to high. I highly doubt that Nolan and Co. will use a cartoon as their basis just like they didn't use BTAS for their Batman films.

I noticed a few traces of BTAS influence in TDK. The scene where Batman crashes Maroni's party at the club is reminscent of a similar scene in the 'World's Finest' crossover episode, for one.

[mclay18]

Del Toro has a great filmmaking mind, much like Chris Nolan, and I think Del Toro teaming with Chris Nolan, Emma Thomas, (maybe Wally Pfister), Jonah Nolan and David Goyer on the Superman film would create movie making cinema MAGIC together.

That sounds good. But if Batman 3 shoots before Superman does, Pfister wouldn't be able to work on the latter if he could.

[M.O.Steel]

Well, I hope Chris convinces WB's to NOT be so close minded and insistent on casting an American actor only for the role of Superman in the Supes Reboot film he is producing. That type of close minded thinking is ignorant IMO. I think a bulked up Henry Cavill would be a great choice as Superman.

Now that Guillermo Del Toro has dropped out as director of the Hobbit, I think WB's and Nolan should take advantage and pursue him to direct their Superman reboot film. Del Toro has a great filmmaking mind, much like Chris Nolan, and I think Del Toro teaming with Chris Nolan, Emma Thomas, (maybe Wally Pfister), Jonah Nolan and David Goyer on the Superman film would create movie making cinema MAGIC together. Goyer has worked with Del Toro before on Blade 2 also.

now that is an intriguing proposition. superman is the kinda movie the bull needs to propel himself. gifted filmmaker, but hobbit would have been his break through, although superman would be just as great for him.

[Dark Knight]

That sounds good. But if Batman 3 shoots before Superman does, Pfister wouldn't be able to work on the latter if he could.





Yeah, that's why I said maybe Pfister.

Del Toro would probably want to bring on his own Cinematographer anyhow.

[Dark Knight]

now that is an intriguing proposition. superman is the kinda movie the bull needs to propel himself. gifted filmmaker, but hobbit would have been his break through, although superman would be just as great for him.





Hey, the Hobbits loss would be Supermans gain....potentially of course.

Who knows.....:huh:

[Webhead2006]

well they could always just want american's testing in first few rounds. But then if things are not going well, or they dont find many they like, maybe they will open casting more.

[M.O.Steel]

why? if we had thinking like that we wouldn't have heath ledger, jackman, bale, the kick-ass guy

if a guy has the all american farmboy look and a good american accent, no reason to limit to one country

[GreenKToo]

Showtime gave me the answer.


Bryan Singer/Bad Hat Harry will be listed as producer of the reboot, but they'll have zero involvement creatively.
Ahh ok kool. kinda like what peters had with SR. :yay:

[GreenKToo]

Hey, the Hobbits loss would be Supermans gain....potentially of course.

Who knows.....:huh:
If only...

[/(^_^)\]

If only...Sorry, I don't want Superman with eyes in the palms of his hands. All of Del Toro's movies look the same now. He's like the new Tim Burton. Yeah, kinda creative and stylish, but redundant. My brother saw Hellboy II and he said, "I didn't know Hellboy was the same movie as Pan's Labyrinth." No Del Toro for Superman.

[raybia]

Sorry, I don't want Superman with eyes in the palms of his hands. All of Del Toro's movies look the same now. He's like the new Tim Burton. Yeah, kinda creative and stylish, but redundant. My brother saw Hellboy II and he said, "I didn't know Hellboy was the same movie as Pan's Labyrinth." No Del Toro for Superman.

Sorry but I saw both movies and other than some similar character designs these movies were not even remotely the same.

[Christmas]

Del Toro (who is imo spectacular and pan's labyrinth is one of the most moving times at the theaters I've ever had) definitely won't take this job.

The whole point of him leaving the Hobbit was commitments to make other films. period. he can't just jump ship to work on a franchise that doesn't suit his worldview.

[M.O.Steel]

he didn't leave just for the commitments. the hobbit is one of his commitments, and i'm sure his other projects would take a back seat to such an opportunity.

he left becuase the production behind the films in a mess. the money and delay, he didn't want to deal with that and spend more time than he already has just on a project that wont come to life.

anyone else hear of the rumor that he may possibly be helming a new van helsing movie seperate from the last one?

[raybia]

anyone else hear of the rumor that he may possibly be helming a new van helsing movie seperate from the last one?

That would be a dream come true!

[M.O.Steel]

i know at least writing and produce. directing not official.

[hippie_hunter]

he didn't leave just for the commitments. the hobbit is one of his commitments, and i'm sure his other projects would take a back seat to such an opportunity.

he left becuase the production behind the films in a mess. the money and delay, he didn't want to deal with that and spend more time than he already has just on a project that wont come to life.

anyone else hear of the rumor that he may possibly be helming a new van helsing movie seperate from the last one?

No he left because he had other commitments to fulfill with his exclusive contract with Universa that lasts until 2017 with Frankenstein, Hellboy 3, At the Mountains of Madness, Slaughterhouse-Five, and Drood. Because MGM has no money at all, he couldn't just wait for things to get settled and then spend up to 4 years of his life making these films (along with other side projects) and then work on the other films he's comitted to. By the time the Hobbit was done it would have been around 2014 by the time he was done and Universal would be pissed considering that their contract with him was signed in 2008.

[/(^_^)\]

Sorry but I saw both movies and other than some similar character designs these movies were not even remotely the same.Yeah, same style cinematography, set designs, character designs. They looked the same, just like how every Tim Burton movie looks the same. Boring.

[GreenKToo]

wow really? i'll have to rewatch Batman 89 and alice in wonderland again to see how much they look the same.:oldrazz:
Folks that think Burton films are boring are in the minority, otherwise he wouldnt still have hit after hit.
I'll give ya that he's a safe director tho.

[Webhead2006]

yea its probably wont be del toro he is probably going to line someone up shortly from the list of films he hasnt gotten to do since signing on for hobbit the past two yrs and all that. Like it been said before its likely going to be someone up and coming like a marc webb. I just hope they get someone good and hopefully at least has a couple films under their belt that were action/cgi type of films.

[Abraham]

There are tons of directors that could get the job,

Brad Bird
James Mangold
Nimrod Antal
JJ Abrams
Joe Carnahan
M. Night Shyamalan

just to name a few, all far more likely than Del Toro in my opinion.

[Superark]

There are tons of directors that could get the job,

Brad Bird
James Mangold
Nimrod Antal
JJ Abrams
Joe Carnahan
M. Night Shyamalan

just to name a few, all far more likely than Del Toro in my opinion.

This is a name I definitely wouldn't mind seeing direct a Superman movie. Love Mangold's work

[batman44]

Agreed on James Mangold:up:

As much as I like JJ, he can't do Superman. He has a contract with Paramount and he will be busy with Star Trek 2.

[GreenKToo]

JJ or Jackson would be my dream directors..

[Changeling]

JJ would be amazing

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Spielberg is still my dream choice. If there ever was a superhero for him to direct, it's Superman.

[raybia]

Spielberg is still my dream choice. If there ever was a superhero for him to direct, it's Superman.

Spielberg Circa 1980 I would agree.

[solidsnake86]

There are tons of directors that could get the job,

Brad Bird
James Mangold
Nimrod Antal
JJ Abrams
Joe Carnahan
M. Night Shyamalan

just to name a few, all far more likely than Del Toro in my opinion.

Brad bird is directing mission impossible 4 so I don't think he can direct it. JJ Abrams, if I'm not mistaken, has a deal with paramount and already tried with superman, it will never happen. I think M. Night could do something interesting but would he take on a superman film with a heavy hand in what goes on?

I could definately see one of the harry potter directors being chosen, they're more then capable, are willing to work with an established property and good at taking orders which is what we know WB is looking for this time around.

[Webhead2006]

yea i wouldnt mind if any of the potter directors did superman. They can handle sfx and good stories.

[General Vulcun]

yea i wouldnt mind if any of the potter directors did superman. They can handle sfx and good stories.

Even Chris Columbus?

[MAN O STEEL]

Even Chris Columbus?


Adventures In babysitting. nuff said.




Steve

[Webhead2006]

i dont see anything wrong with chris columbus, he has done some wonderful films in the past.

[BenReilly]

Nothing really new, but some recent comments from Nolan about Superman:

What Meaning Does Superman Have For Christopher Nolan? (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/532422/what-meaning-does-superman-have-for-christopher-nolan.jhtml#id=1642458)

[DavidTyler]

A bit concerned now that Nolan may be yet one more in a line of people who can't divorce Superman from Dick Donner.

Please, Nolan, if you're reading this ...PLEASE ... don't use the Donner films as the basis for where you intend to take the character.

[GreenKToo]

I dunno. I guess you could take it that way.
My take, he sees S:TM as what epic can and should be.

[Webhead2006]

i am sure he wont make it to like donner's film. Goyer/dc comics will probably help him hope to use the full history well. Also we already know nolan did like donner's films and it did influence him ie how he goes to casting his films and all that. That is probably all he means from donner like stuff.

[COMPO]

I don't think Nolan would use the Donner films as a basis like SR but try and replicate the scale of the movie as well as taking influences from it as well as from the source material.

As much as Superman Returns replicated the style of the Donner Films, it couldn't match the scale which I think was its downfall.

[The Batman]

I would love to see nolan pull as many Donner elements as possible.

[Mr. Earle]

Because that worked for Superman Returns, right?

[El Payaso]

Because that worked for Superman Returns, right?

Weren't you the one who was against the "Robin doesn't work because it didn't work for the Schumacher's movies" idea?

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm for Nolan casting this film like Donner did, with an unknown like Reeve surrounded by big names.

As far as the story goes, I don't mind him using Donner's approach to the material.. versimilitude... except now with the contemporary modern 1980s comics.

[COMPO]

Robin did work in Batman Forever, but its lets not get into that, having bits and peices of Donners interpretation but it still has to have something fresh and be a new idea whereas Superman Returns felt to much like a Donner film that it was hard to see which was Singers interpretation.

[\S/uperman]

A bit concerned now that Nolan may be yet one more in a line of people who can't divorce Superman from Dick Donner.

Please, Nolan, if you're reading this ...PLEASE ... don't use the Donner films as the basis for where you intend to take the character.

This

[COMPO]

i'm for nolan casting this film like donner did, with an unknown like reeve surrounded by big names.

As far as the story goes, i don't mind him using donner's approach to the material.. Versimilitude... Except now with the contemporary modern 1980s comics.

qft

[\S/uperman]

If Nolan acknowledged modern animated works I would feel a lot better.

Maybe if he said something like "We would like to take a modern approach similar to the characterization in recent animated series and movies. "

Fans would be pumped if they heard that!

[COMPO]

If there was an interpretation Nolan would go with it would be Byrne's run?

[\S/uperman]

If there was an interpretation Nolan would go with it would be Byrne's run?

Reports already mentioned Byrnes as an influence. I want to hear about animated works serving as a basis to some degree.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I strongly doubt it.

Batman The Animated Series was ten times better than it's Superman equivalent, yet Nolan didn't use it as a basis for Batman Begins or TDK.

They drew inspiration from specific comic titles.

[\S/uperman]

I strongly doubt it.

Batman The Animated Series was ten times better than it's Superman equivalent, yet Nolan didn't use it as a basis for Batman Begins or TDK.

They drew inspiration from specific comic titles.

True. I'm just saying the response would be huge.

[Webhead2006]

totally man, at most all nolan is going to do is help cast the film like he did with batman films as how donner did with the original film. He is probably not going to make it story wise like donner's film. Wb doesnt want that again. He will probably have a good story out of his brother and goyer, and he probably just wants it to be grand and epic in scale like how donner's film was when it first came out in 78.

[Mr. Earle]

Weren't you the one who was against the "Robin doesn't work because it didn't work for the Schumacher's movies" idea?
I dont think its the same. One is:
- "Mr Freeze sucks because B&R sucked"
and the other is
-"dont do it like Donner because people want something new".

On the first example you cant judge a character based on a single failed attempt, but SR proved that people want to move on from the Donnerverse. Even if he threw some punches and didnt have the kid, people would still not like it.

I think we definitely need to move on to a modern day interpretation of the character, with more dynamic elements as seen in modern comics, STAS, hell even L&C and Smallville.

Robin did work in Batman Forever, but its lets not get into that, having bits and peices of Donners interpretation but it still has to have something fresh and be a new idea whereas Superman Returns felt to much like a Donner film that it was hard to see which was Singers interpretation.Agreed on all counts.

[COMPO]

I know it won't happen but I'd want Singer to come back and do Superman his version and not a continuation of Donners version.

[GreenKToo]

SR was singer's version..he had the freedom to do whatever he wanted..SR was the result.

[Sawyer]

Yeah, if Singer came back, I guarantee you the first thing out of his mouth would be "Well.... why cant I do a sequel to SR?" He'd just do what he did before, there'd be not change between Superman Returns and "his version". They're both the same.

[Webhead2006]

YEa i wouldnt want singer again. It high time to see a new and different take.

[General Vulcun]

A bit concerned now that Nolan may be yet one more in a line of people who can't divorce Superman from Dick Donner.

Please, Nolan, if you're reading this ...PLEASE ... don't use the Donner films as the basis for where you intend to take the character.

Being influenced by what Donner did with his Superman is not the same as making his version of a Donner Superman movie. I really don't see a reason to worry.

[COMPO]

`The influence I'd like to see used is Birthright, that's my favourite Superman origin and really shows how Superman becomes the hero everyone loves.

The influence from the Donner's version they should is the love story but make it more Lois and Clark than Superman and Lois.

[The Batman]

Because that worked for Superman Returns, right?

I dont care about SR. I care about the next Superman movie taking as MUCH donner elements as possible. This time they should take it farther. Metropolis should be in NY again, lois should have a spelling problem, once again giving her her own kryptonite, and lex should be obsessed with land. There are other ideas, but they're apart of my extensive movie pitch ill soon put into every thread, on topic or not. Forget MOS or BR or A-SS or whatever post 85 comic you guys abbreviate for simplicity. MY way works and its the only way it should be done, or else the general audience wont understand it. :cwink::o

[Mr. Earle]

I dont care about SR. I care about the next Superman movie taking as MUCH donner elements as possible. This time they should take it farther. Metropolis should be in NY again, lois should have a spelling problem, once again giving her her own kryptonite, and lex should be obsessed with land. There are other ideas, but they're apart of my extensive movie pitch ill soon put into every thread, on topic or not. Forget MOS or BR or A-SS or whatever post 85 comic you guys abbreviate for simplicity. MY way works and its the only way it should be done, or else the general audience wont understand it. :cwink::o
You re joking, right?

[The Batman]

youll never really know, will you? :cwink:

[\S/uperman]

You re joking, right?

You couldn't tell he was joking :eek: WTF?!

[COMPO]

What's A-SS?

[batman44]

I believe it's All Star Superman.

[Webhead2006]

yea i see nothing to worry about with nolan's and goyer. I am sure this superman is going to be much different then donner superman or singer's.

[Young Superman]

I know I'm in the minority here but I hope Christopher Nolan makes Superman the sole survivor of the planet Krypton in the rebooted film francais. In my honest opinion it just makes Superman a little more unique.

[\S/uperman]

I wonder if they know how much hardcore fans want to see a rebooted series with an origin story to it.


Maybe they will work around that issue with the litigation to find a happy medium for all fans.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I know I'm in the minority here but I hope Christopher Nolan makes Superman the sole survivor of the planet Krypton in the rebooted film francais. In my honest opinion it just makes Superman a little more unique.

You're not in the minority.


It's the only thing you've ever said I actually agree with.


I think Brainiac will be the only other representation of Krypton on Earth.

[\S/uperman]

I hope Nolan advises to leave Zod alone. RIP

Move on to better villains. Everyone and their Mom wants Brainiac, so that will happen. From there move on to Doomsday and Darkseid. Zod is not needed.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Zod is fail indeed.

[Mr. Earle]

I dont get it. Why should Superman be the only survivor of Krypton? Because that makes him special?

Movies are one thing, but comics need to print a new issue every month, so they need to explore Krypton more. Take Batman for instance. All that "i draw those supervillains", "escalationz", "duality", "joker's madness", etc has been done to death to the point that Grant Morrison is taking him on a time travel to give the franchise a breath of fresh air. Its the same thing with Superman. At some point they'll have to explore Krypton more, send Clark to the future (Legion), other dimensions, etc. So i dont care if he isnt the only survivor from Krypton when we can get more villains, more info about life there, more about his parents, Supergirl, Krypto the superdog, etc. The "i'm a sole survivor of an alien planet" angle has been done already. It has been published thousands of times and you can still read it.

So i say, have Superman be the only survivor at first and explore what that means. If they have a good idea involving other Kryptonians, then they should introduce them. I am no Supergirl fan, but i liked that Superman/Batman story that reworked her arrival to earth. It meant so much to Clark that he was no longer alone, that he had someone to tell him about his parents, his lost home, etc. So reading Supergirl stories? Not so much, but having Supergirl (or simply Kara) as a supportive cast to Superman? I think its worth it.

Oh, and Krypto. If you dont like Krypto (or Ace the Batdog for that matter) you have no heart.

[Man of Tomorrow]

F**k Supergirl.

Leave the sidekicks out of this.

Though knowing Nolan and his feelings about Robin, I think it's safe to say we'll be avoiding the 'Super family'

[Mr. Earle]

When it comes to movies i agree, but not in comics.

[Jochimus]

I think Brainiac will be the only other representation of Krypton on Earth.

Eh, I don't really care much for the idea of Brainiac being Kryptonian. His modus operandi from S:TAS I don't mind, though.

As for which incarnation of Superman might have the most influence of Nolan's vision...I wouldn't be surprised if Superman in this movie bears more than a passing resemblance, at least in characterization, to the social crusader of the original Siegel and Shuster stories of the late '30s and early '40s, and we happen in on him as he's about to face something a lot more sinister than the usual racketeers and wife-beaters and politicos and occasional megalomaniacal bald industrialist...something from out of town. WAYYYYY out of town.

[Young Superman]

I meant the Nolanverse Superman should be the sole survivor of the planet Krypton.

[Mr. Earle]

I just remembered Mon-El. He's another great character that we lose if "teh Superman is teh last survivorz".

Do Daxamites count as Kryptonians? They were originally Kryptonians who colonized planet Daxam but iirc the Eradicator manipulated their DNA so they'd be susceptible to mercury poisoning. I think they count as Kryptonians if you think that all this manipulation of DNA business was a deus ex machina to give Mon-El poisoning and a reason for him to stay in the Phantom Zone until Superman cures him.

In any case the franchise will get a trilogy at best so i doubt they'll reach the point that they'll have exhausted all the material so that they'll resort to other superheroes, the superfamily and other dimensions. It will probably be more down to earth, and deal with the basic issues regarding Superman. Not that i have anything to complain about since we've never seen any of that on screen (Superman movies were about Silver/Golden Age Superman, L&C was more about the romance and Smallville is dog****), i'm just saying keep the doors open and dont cut stuff out of the mythos because of pseudo realism, pseudo seriousness or any other reason.

[Jochimus]

I just remembered Mon-El. He's another great character that we lose if "teh Superman is teh last survivorz".

Do Daxamites count as Kryptonians? They were originally Kryptonians who colonized planet Daxam but iirc the Eradicator manipulated their DNA so they'd be susceptible to mercury poisoning. I think they count as Kryptonians if you think that all this manipulation of DNA business was a deus ex machina to give Mon-El poisoning and a reason for him to stay in the Phantom Zone until Superman cures him.

Eh, I consider them descendants of Kryptonians, rather than 'actual' Kryptonians, particularly since it was also established that the Kryptonian colonists crossbred with the native Daxamites.

In any case, I don't think making Superman the sole survivor of Krypton automatically amounts to the removal of characters and concepts like Kara and Zod and Kandor and etc. from the mythos. The DCAU and some of the earliest Post-COIE concepts are proof of that.

[Webhead2006]

i wouldnt mind if they have him the sole survivor but i would hope they leave it open to phantom zone stuff or even kara if down the road they wanted to get into that stuff.

[Lighthouse]

I wouldn't mind there being another survivor of Krypton, but I think he should be an enemy. Kind of like Doctor Who, I like the idea of a sole survivor finding out that he's not alone, only for that one other person to be his worst enemy.

[Batman4ever]

Superman is long overdue for a re-boot. If I were the heads of WB I'd listen to Nolan who has taken Batman to a new level.

[Young Superman]

I wouldn't mind there being another survivor of Krypton, but I think he should be an enemy. Kind of like Doctor Who, I like the idea of a sole survivor finding out that he's not alone, only for that one other person to be his worst enemy.

We kind of already had that, it's called Superman 2.

[COMPO]

Didn't STAS make it so Supergirl wasn't quite Kryptonian but part of the nieghbouring planet?

[Jochimus]

Didn't STAS make it so Supergirl wasn't quite Kryptonian but part of the nieghbouring planet?

Yeah, they pulled a Ceti Alpha V and said that Argo was another planet that was leveled by the shockwave of Krypton's explosion.

That's exactly my point - all those characters can still exist, by coming up with ways of reintroducing them that are at least a little more inventive than just saying, "Wow, another Kryptonian survivor!".

Not that I think Nolan is going to be hot to trot down that path, of course - I suspect Nolan's Superman will be the sole survivor (at least until two or three movies later when someone else takes the reins).

[Young Superman]

I suspect Nolan's Superman will be the sole survivor

I hope so, and as far as Supergirl being Kara In-Ze from Krypton's sister planet of Argos. She's the only incarnation of Supergirl I like.

[Lighthouse]

Or we could just not have Supergirl.

[Mr. Earle]

I dont get it. Does it really matter if she's a survivor from Krypton or some neighbouring planet? The only thing that changes is her relation to Superman. They re going to develop a big brother-younger sister relationship anyway, so it might as well be the canon way, blood relation.

[Webhead2006]

well i still say we shouldnt cut out kara, or other kryptonians, phantom zone stuff. There is many things they can do with it, and not make it just like superman 2 or what was seen in TAS/Smallville at all that. I rather have the option to go into these different aspects of the character. Then cutting them out totally and saying nope cant happen at all. And if they dont want to actually show said things(yet) just having an off mention would suit me.

[The Batman]

I dont get it. Does it really matter if she's a survivor from Krypton or some neighbouring planet?

Nope, it dosen't. Especially when the fanboys who want her to be from a neighboring planet (which was a cheap copout that Timm/Dini were forced to use in order to have SG on the show) also like a superman who apparently dosent care much for his kryptonian heritage.

[GreenKToo]

The only other kryptonian i'd like to see would be Brainiac, and he is just an android/super computer.
For me, it takes away from the mystery of superman by having other kryptonians running around here and there. Last son should really mean LAST SURVIVOR.

[Jochimus]

For me, it takes away from the mystery of superman by having other kryptonians running around here and there.

I actually kind of agree with this. I like the idea of Krypton being a big question mark to him for much of his early life and playing to the journalistic instincts of the character by wanting to unravel the mystery of where he came from, plus this would also be consistent with the early comics, where he didn't really come by much knowledge of his who and what he really was until he was already operating as Superman.

Personally, I feel that Krypton should have the sort of mythic stature for him that ancient Rome and medieval England have for us or that dinosaurs have for children, where part of the fascination surrounding it lies in the fact that it no longer exists and that today we have only clues - some vague, some not so vague - of what those times were really like to fire our brains and get us thinking about them. In his case, that yearning to know the answers would lean particularly toward the fact that Clark Kent IS an investigative reporter, which is another aspect of the character I'd like to see more of in the movies and, again, also parallels the earliest Superman stories where his job as a truth-seeker WAS substantially on display, in BOTH guises. I mean, yeah, Jonathan and Martha pull him out of a spaceship as a baby, so of course he's gonna know at some point that he's not from Earth. But it's the question of just where out there he comes from and why he was sent here that should be in the back of his mind; I just don't think we should use his search for who he is as an excuse to beat the messianic angle of it over people's heads again - he's sent to Earth to save HIS life, not ours. That's why he has Ma and Pa, to help him figure out what to do with himself in general.

[Young Superman]

Or we could just not have Supergirl.

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The only other kryptonian i'd like to see would be Brainiac, and he is just an android/super computer.
For me, it takes away from the mystery of superman by having other kryptonians running around here and there. Last son should really mean LAST SURVIVOR.

Agreed

I actually kind of agree with this. I like the idea of Krypton being a big question mark to him for much of his early life and playing to the journalistic instincts of the character by wanting to unravel the mystery of where he came from, plus this would also be consistent with the early comics, where he didn't really come by much knowledge of his who and what he really was until he was already operating as Superman.

Personally, I feel that Krypton should have the sort of mythic stature for him that ancient Rome and medieval England have for us or that dinosaurs have for children, where part of the fascination surrounding it lies in the fact that it no longer exists and that today we have only clues - some vague, some not so vague - of what those times were really like to fire our brains and get us thinking about them. In his case, that yearning to know the answers would lean particularly toward the fact that Clark Kent IS an investigative reporter, which is another aspect of the character I'd like to see more of in the movies and, again, also parallels the earliest Superman stories where his job as a truth-seeker WAS substantially on display, in BOTH guises. I mean, yeah, Jonathan and Martha pull him out of a spaceship as a baby, so of course he's gonna know at some point that he's not from Earth. But it's the question of just where out there he comes from and why he was sent here that should be in the back of his mind; I just don't think we should use his search for who he is as an excuse to beat the messianic angle of it over people's heads again - he's sent to Earth to save HIS life, not ours. That's why he has Ma and Pa, to help him figure out what to do with himself in general.


I like this idea.

[Mr. Earle]

I actually kind of agree with this. I like the idea of Krypton being a big question mark to him for much of his early life and playing to the journalistic instincts of the character by wanting to unravel the mystery of where he came from, plus this would also be consistent with the early comics, where he didn't really come by much knowledge of his who and what he really was until he was already operating as Superman.

Personally, I feel that Krypton should have the sort of mythic stature for him that ancient Rome and medieval England have for us or that dinosaurs have for children, where part of the fascination surrounding it lies in the fact that it no longer exists and that today we have only clues - some vague, some not so vague - of what those times were really like to fire our brains and get us thinking about them. In his case, that yearning to know the answers would lean particularly toward the fact that Clark Kent IS an investigative reporter, which is another aspect of the character I'd like to see more of in the movies and, again, also parallels the earliest Superman stories where his job as a truth-seeker WAS substantially on display, in BOTH guises. I mean, yeah, Jonathan and Martha pull him out of a spaceship as a baby, so of course he's gonna know at some point that he's not from Earth. But it's the question of just where out there he comes from and why he was sent here that should be in the back of his mind; I just don't think we should use his search for who he is as an excuse to beat the messianic angle of it over people's heads again - he's sent to Earth to save HIS life, not ours. That's why he has Ma and Pa, to help him figure out what to do with himself in general.
That cant happen because he gets the fortress which explains everything to him. And if you dont give him the fortress so that we get that mythic stuff, how exactly is Clark going to investigate his heritage and Krypton? The best he can do is ask an astronomer who will tell him that Krypton is a distant planet which we know nothing about. Besides, Krypton is thousands of light years away so it would take thousands of years for the light of its star to stop arriving on Earth and for us to notice its destruction.

If you've seen any documentaries about space you'll know that the images of the stars we see in the sky are thousands of years old, because that's how long it takes their light to reach us.

In any case, yes i agree that "the only survivor from Krypton" should be explored in Superman's early days, but later on, say by film 3 or 4 (if we ever get there), they could introduce other Kryptonians since the "boohoo i am the only survivor" would have been explored.

[Jochimus]

That cant happen because he gets the fortress which explains everything to him.

Not as originally conceived, it didn't. It was called the Fortress of Solitude from the beginning because it was a place where he could sort out his thoughts away from the constant beck and call of humanity, and also serve as a storage space for the occasional "trophy" he might recover or award he might be given or weird lost space-pet he might find. To the best of my knowledge, it was with Donner that the FOS began to be the host site for a "Krypton 101" seminar.

And if you dont give him the fortress so that we get that mythic stuff, how exactly is Clark going to investigate his heritage and Krypton?

Make like "Birthright" and toss a high-tech scrapbook in the rocket. You have enough clues of what Krypton was right there without him being able to really know for himself what that world was like, and would leave him wanting to know more. I suppose at some point he could probably find a way to repair the rocket that brought him to Earth so that he can operate it and explore the galaxy with it (akin to the DCAU or even the deleted stuff from SR), but I'm not quite so sure that that would be a direction Nolan would go in. Maybe he would, I dunno, but I doubt it.

And I don't agree with the "boo hoo" philosophy, either, because he's not Bruce Wayne - he wasn't old enough to even remember his parents or his homeworld, so IMO it's not really an emotional issue so much as it is just wanting to have a clearer idea of where he came from. It's curiosity more than anything else, because in the end, as in almost every other version of his origin, it's Smallville, not Krypton, that made him the person he's become.

[\S/]

I'm late to this party: where was it ever mentioned officially that either MOS or AS Superman were influences on this film?

Also, my vote for director is Brad Bird. He would do an amazing job.

\S/

[\S/uperman]

I'm late to this party: where was it ever mentioned officially that either MOS or AS Superman were influences on this film?

Also, my vote for director is Brad Bird. He would do an amazing job.

\S/

Trying to make fun of me :rolleyes:


:down

[\S/]

Trying to make fun of me :rolleyes:


:down

Hey man,

I'm not trying to make fun of you at all. For years, I have had the username "Superman" or variants thereof on other boards and always signed a post with "\S/." Since Superman is taken here, I tried "\S/'' and it was free.

And it's nice to meet you. I'm from Louisiana myself, Lafayette specifically. Glad to see another person from the only LA that matters round here! Who dat!

\S/

[\S/uperman]

Hey man,

I'm not trying to make fun of you at all. For years, I have had the username "Superman" or variants thereof on other boards and always signed a post with "\S/." Since Superman is taken here, I tried "\S/'' and it was free.

And it's nice to meet you. I'm from Louisiana myself, Lafayette specifically. Glad to see another person from the only LA that matters round here! Who dat!

\S/

Oh ok. Cool :up: Been hasseled before about using the \S/ in my name on other boards, so made the silly assumption u were poking fun. My bad.

I'm down near french quarter, well closer to magazine :up:

Cheers

[Webhead2006]

joch that would be an interesting way to play krypton/clark's kryptonian past on how clark feels about things and all that.

[bgshw44]

we will never ever see supergirl in a superman movie (thank god)

[Webhead2006]

well i wouldnt say that. you never know. Wb/dc might want to include supergirl down the road if the new film is a success. Sure nolan didnt want robin/batgirl in his batman movies. But he isnt the only one in charge for the supes reboot. So i wouldnt void anything just yet with these characters.

[raybia]

Funny. We haven't had a decent Superman movie in decades and we have person clamoring for Supergirl. Go figure.

[Reel-Man]

I haven't kept up with this topic but is there any news on the reboot?

[GreenKToo]

No, not since feb.

[LightningFlash]

Question: Who wants The Man of Steel to come out on December 21, 2012?

It is a Friday, and it would just be funny; to make fun of Mayan prophecy by saying, "The end of the world will be the release of Nolan's Superman film."

[GreenKToo]

I want it to come out December 20th...just in case lol.

[super-t]

Thats wat i been saying...ill be really pissed off if the world blows up while im tryin to buy my tickets to see the movie!

[manofsteel4life]

Thats wat i been saying...ill be really pissed off if the world blows up while im tryin to buy my tickets to see the movie!

LOL....I swore to myself that i wouldnt comment on here until the movie was finally set to come out, but you had me dying:woot:

[super-t]

lol glad i could be of some influence bro....but thats jus real talk lol...i mean i been waitin for 167 dog years for a good supes film in my lifetime, and then the damn me world wants to blow up...figures!!

[Webhead2006]

hopefully once nolan's leo film is out, and all that we will start to hear some real solid story/plotlines for the film. i really cant wait to see how things turn out this attempt.

[BenReilly]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8194

July 8, 2010: Could Chris Columbus Direct Superman?

As we know, Warner Bros. are aiming to have a new Superman movie released to cinemas before the end of 2012. A source inside the studio has revealed to the Superman Homepage that an "offer has been sent out to Chris Columbus to direct the 3D Superman reboot for December 2012".

Columbus, who directed the first two "Harry Potter" films for Warner Bros., is reportedly considered "the right fit" for the Man of Steel by those within the WB and Legendary Pictures.

Christopher Nolan will be producing the film, from a script written by David Goyer.

"David Goyer really wanted to direct but nobody from either studio think he's good in that arena," reveals the studio insider. "He's great at coming up with story and ideas, like George Lucas. It's his execution where he's weak which is why people like Chris and Jonathan Nolan and Guillermo Del Toro have had the best results with his scripts."

Whether Chris Columbus takes up the offer, or even if said offer really exists, will be revealed in time.

[Sawyer]

Columbus? Ehhhhh.... no thanks. I'll pass.

[SuperDaniel]

Why? I think he would be a great choice. All his movies are fun.

[Willi Berg]

The problem I have with Columbus is that his movies are so similar, workmanlike and 'by-the-numbers'. They're big and colourful and effects-driven but esp. with Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, it was basically the same thing, three kids solving puzzles, moving from one clue to the other. His movies are kind of plodding.

[Crook]

Columbus sounds like the type of director they're going for, studio yes-man with no particular artistic vision under his helm. With that said he's pretty mediocre if the script isn't up to snuff. He's the type of guy who needs his hands held by talented people to churn out a quality product. I wouldn't be confident with him, even with Nolan on the sidelines.

Oh, and :funny: @ Goyer wanting a shot at directing. Dude's so whack with the camera, he really should stick to writing.

[GreenKToo]

BUT still, its better than Jonah, wouldnt you agree?

[Willi Berg]

Jonah is a risky move, yes- it's either a fantastic idea that will pay off, or a really bad one. I find it hard to tell.

I kind of don't believe this Columbus rumour anyway. I thought maybe it was to soften the blow if it is Jonah- kind of like, "At least it's not Chris Columbus." Or maybe someone just wants to start the rumour because they really liked Percy Jackson.

I think if they want someone more experienced than Jonah, they don't have to go as extreme or mainstream as Columbus. There is a middle ground. Someone who isn't so conventional or "big", but has great ideas, and can also be overseen by Chris Nolan.

[Crook]

Honestly I'd be more confident with Jonah than either Columbus or Goyer. With the latter two, I know they're not that talented behind the camera. So while the unknown factor associated with Jonah can be a detriment, at the very least he stands on neutral ground.

He has all the creative and writing talent his brother has, with the added benefit of being more engulfed in comic book lore. Him never directing anything is a big iffy, no doubt, but I wouldn't think he'd be handed such a big property had he not given justifiable reason to both his brother and the studio, behind closed doors. But that's just me.

[Willi Berg]

Agreed, the unknown factor with Jonah is at least something, not the "Oh no" factor with known quantities like Goyer and Columbus.

[GreenKToo]

Im not to wild about columbus either but he is better than jonah or goyer imo.
I understand that wb wants a director they can control, but to me, it seems they would want a PROVEN *ACTION* director that can tell a good story. I just don't know....:dry:

[Showtime]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8194

Columbus? Ehhhhh.... no thanks. I'll pass.

Why? I think he would be a great choice. All his movies are fun.

The problem I have with Columbus is that his movies are so similar, workmanlike and 'by-the-numbers'. They're big and colourful and effects-driven but esp. with Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, it was basically the same thing, three kids solving puzzles, moving from one clue to the other. His movies are kind of plodding.

Columbus sounds like the type of director they're going for, studio yes-man with no particular artistic vision under his helm. With that said he's pretty mediocre if the script isn't up to snuff. He's the type of guy who needs his hands held by talented people to churn out a quality product. I wouldn't be confident with him, even with Nolan on the sidelines.

Oh, and :funny: @ Goyer wanting a shot at directing. Dude's so whack with the camera, he really should stick to writing.

BUT still, its better than Jonah, wouldnt you agree?

Although I think Columbus fits the type of director that would make sense for what they want to do, the report is not legit. WB/DC has not offered Columbus Superman, nor are they in talks with him at this time.

[GreenKToo]

thanx show...

[chamber-music]

Finally people in hollywood are waking up to the idea David Goyer is a not a good director.

[solidsnake86]

Shouldn't they be in the process of finding a director and/or having a short list at this point. Basically this probably has to start filiming by summer or fall next year for a december 2012 release which gives them a little over a year. We should be hearing a director very soon or at least some rumours by this point.

[Webhead2006]

Saw the rumor of chris columbus being offered/possibly taking the director chair for the supes reboot. I wouldnt mind him at all. HE has done some wonderful films. He knows how to direct characters well, and he can do action scenes too. So if he is our man i would be fairly happy about it. Hopefully who ever is to be director will be known soon enough.

[Showtime]

Shouldn't they be in the process of finding a director and/or having a short list at this point. Basically this probably has to start filiming by summer or fall next year for a december 2012 release which gives them a little over a year. We should be hearing a director very soon or at least some rumours by this point.

They should be yes, but offering Columbus a contract didn't happen. Not that I would mind if they did it.

They are already working on casting Superman. They have some names, some known actors and some unknowns.

[Webhead2006]

yea i would figure looking at possible timeline they would want to have director locked by the end of the summer. So then early fall/early spring they can do full casting, locking studio space, and location scouting. So they could be filming by june/july 2011. So then if we have 4-6 months for shooting that would bring us up to oct/nov shooting would be finished for first unit/second unit stuff. So that would leave us with pratically a yr for reshoots/post production and all the marketing and what not with promotions.

[solidsnake86]

Well I guess they would have to be working on the casting of superman but do you think they will wait for a director to be attached first? Either way I'm more interested to get more details from the script and know what the story is about this time out.

[Webhead2006]

well i def would love if superman has been getting worked on casting wise. So maybe they could nail both director and superman by early fall the earlist. So this if the film doesnt go into production to early summer 2011 that could give said actor 6-8 months time for training for stunts, bulking up, and costume tests/fitting and all that. The earlier the better i say with landing the next superman.

[bonoferox]

I don't really see Columbus failing as the director (if for some reason he does get the offer), but he wouldn't be my top choice.
And agreed with Goyer. I love the guy as a writer but his talent behind the camera should stay at that.

[Webhead2006]

yea goyer is alot better in writers chair then director. Sure he isnt the best one out there. But he does need to work on it. But his real talent is writing. As for chris columbus i said above i would be fairly happy with him. He is a solid director, can do big budget films, works with characters well. So if its him or someone like him i would be very happy.

[GreenKToo]

They should be yes, but offering Columbus a contract didn't happen. Not that I would mind if they did it.

They are already working on casting Superman. They have some names, some known actors and some unknowns.
Daaamn!! for real..:wow:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Casting Superman before the director is attached?

[Showtime]

Casting Superman before the director is attached?

You of all people. Have I taught you nothing?

You guys don't think that studio's throw out choices to the directors or even casts some of these roles themselves?

Not to mention the studio and Superman as a franchise is in a very unusual situation.

[Webhead2006]

well it does happen for some films right? i recall seeing that some times. Or the studio has soemone in mind. then the director comes in and takes the name or they dump them for someone else.

[Showtime]

well it does happen for some films right? i recall seeing that some times. Or the studio has soemone in mind. then the director comes in and takes the name or they dump them for someone else.

Yes. You're right. The perception that the casting always falls entirely on the shoulders of the director is a misconception.

[GreenKToo]

man, i'd love for some names to (ahem) leak out.

[Webhead2006]

Hopefully we will hear some names soon enough, i really want to see what direction they are going with the casting this time. Like i said in earlier post i would def want supes/clark actor picked as soon as possible. So it gives said actor plently of time for bulking up/training and all the other prep stuff. Like hemsworth had what 6-8months to get ready for thor on top of working on red dawn remake. It would be great to have that with supes too.

[GreenKToo]

I thought for sure we would be hearing names for the director looong before we would for superman..looks like I was very wrong.

[Webhead2006]

well it would be sweet if we end up with director and supes actor selected and locked to contracts and revealed at the same time.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Casting Superman before the director is attached?
You must have forgotten how we got our current James Bond.

[GreenKToo]

Anybody that has been on these sites for any amount of time knows that names leak out, be it intentional or not. Logic says that if they're looking, names will surface to gage a reaction, and Probably soon.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Yeah. I must be having an 'off' day -_-


I wonder which actors are studio favorites for this role.

[batman44]

Yay news...wait it ain't true:o Atleast we now know that WB are looking at some actors, would be nice if someone could leak a name or two.

What are the chances that'll we will hear something in regards to Superman at or shortly after Comic-Con (and I'm talking more than "Goyer has been working on script").

[Showtime]

You still might hear director's names before actors, but what is going on behind the scenes and what leaks are two different things.

[Webhead2006]

probably some at comic con or slightly after it could be a possibitity if they are offering things to actors/directors.

[ilovelamp18]

I'm glad that we are getting to this portion of preproduction. The script phase always takes so long and not much information is said. But once names for directors and stars start getting thrown around, it can be a very exciting time. If for some reason hypothetically the Columbus story turns out to be true I would have some hesitation but would be on board knowing that Nolan has a hand in the vision. Get excited...:awesome:

[dark_b]

Columbus would be a relaistic choice.to bad that its not true.

hes previous movies not good enough? maybe.but lets not forget that sometimes when directors get their dream movie they make a 180 and do things that noone expected from them.

i take Columbus over J Nolan every day. the guy has experience. and lets not forget that he helped casting all your favorite ''wizards''.yes Columbus sucks now to the internet fanboys. but in 2001 they were happy with him.

[solidsnake86]

I think your fooling yourself Webhead if you think we'll actually hear news on superman at comiccon or batman for that matter. If WB is smart they'll be focusing on green lantern and there going to have to because it comes out next year and is going to be competing with a lot of films in the same genre. After CC its a different story but we all know that superman and batman news over shadow other properties so unless something leaks I don't expect official announcements.

Does anyone remember who some of the directors in contention for justice league were because I could definately see them being looked at. I've always said one of the harry potter directors would be a realistic choice as well.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think your fooling yourself Webhead

This needs to be the standard reply to 90% of his posts.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Clint Morris from Moviehole chimes in:

I've heard rumblings of who the WB might be eyeing to play Superman this time, and I tell ya, he isn't going to better Brandon Routh, not by a long shot
http://www.moviehole.net/201025428-adventures-in-babysitting-superman


:dry: I wonder who he's referring to.

[GreenKToo]

He sounds like a routh fanboy, and there is nothing is wrong with that either, so of course he wouldnt like the name mentioned.

[GreenKToo]

This needs to be the standard reply to 90% of his posts.
yup and all that ;) :awesome:


I'm playing webby :woot:.

[Showtime]

Does anyone remember who some of the directors in contention for justice league were because I could definately see them being looked at. I've always said one of the harry potter directors would be a realistic choice as well.

David Slade and Jason Reitman.

[GreenKToo]

I wonder if George Miller would be possible as well.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Miller's got those two Mad Max movies filming next year. Nope.

[RachelDawes]

So if this guy they're looking at isn't better than Routh, does this mean that he has about the same level of acting experience Routh had before landing the role or is the quality of his acting about the same as Routh's?

[GreenKToo]

Miller's got those two Mad Max movies filming next year. Nope.
Ahhh thats right, I forgot. thanx.

[Octoberist]

Columbus would be a relaistic choice.to bad that its not true.

hes previous movies not good enough? maybe.but lets not forget that sometimes when directors get their dream movie they make a 180 and do things that noone expected from them.

i take Columbus over J Nolan every day. the guy has experience. and lets not forget that he helped casting all your favorite ''wizards''.yes Columbus sucks now to the internet fanboys. but in 2001 they were happy with him.

but you could say the same thing about M. Night circa 1999-2000.

[Octoberist]

Clint Morris from Moviehole chimes in:

http://www.moviehole.net/201025428-adventures-in-babysitting-superman


:dry: I wonder who he's referring to.


Yeah, it sounds like strong bias towards Routh that no matter who got picked, he'll end up being somewhat dissapointed. Nothing wrong with that, but the perception here isn't clear so it's hard to tell.

[General Vulcun]

Morris does indeed come across as biased and even a little bit angry in his article. Hopefully some official news comes out soon so we can get an idea of exactly where this film is headed.

[Abraham]

ehe-em

... Terrible, boooooooring choice.


And, yeah, I'd be okay with it I guess *shrugs*

[Webhead2006]

oh solid i dont expect to hear something about director/actor for superman at this yrs comic con. i was just saying who knows if things been out for awhile and them looking at folks maybe something could happen. But i am not holding my breath to hear official word on superman there.

But i will be glad once we do have real names for directors on the short list and actors too.

[The Batman]

I came across two good quotes that summarize why toning Superman down power wise is just a bad idea:

"Of the American comics, I probably read more (Superman) books than any other American titles. Not because I wanted to be Superman. It wasn't an empowerment fantasy ... (ellipsis mine) The reason I was fascinated by Superman was because his milieu was wonderful. In the very best sense of the word, Superman was absolutely wonderful. Full of wonder. There were all these concepts and characters, like Kandor, Krypto, time travel, Lori Lemaris, the Phantom Zone, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Bizarro, all this fantastic *****. It was full of wonder and it would spark up my imagination ... The thig that attracted me to Superman was the fact that he could fly. He could see through walls. He could do all these things. He had marvelous toys. He had a marvelous place that he lived in. All his friends were marvelous. He's got buddies in the future that were all marvelous. He knew all the Justice League of America and they were marvelous. I know that this has been said before so it's kind of cliche, but if you go back to the earliest form of storytelling, these stories would have been about someone who did something amazing. 'This guy Hercules was so strong. This guy Hercules, nothing could hurt him.' People love to hear that sort of stuff: Gilgamesh, the Odyssey, Jesus Christ." - Alan Moore


"Every time someone says Superman is too powerful and too boring to write, my head practically explodes, because I don't understand how you can not have the imagination to make that interesting." - Gail Simone

[Kal-El Fan]

Clint Morris from Moviehole chimes in:

http://www.moviehole.net/201025428-adventures-in-babysitting-superman


:dry: I wonder who he's referring to.

It would be too bad if it's not someone better than Routh. I didn't think Routh was terrible, but it would be nice to see some better acting in the lead this time.

As for Columbus' resume, it's kind of funny that Clint lists "The Goonies" as one of his films. That film was directed by Richard Donner.

Edit: Oh, I see Columbus wrote the screenplay. Still an interesting connection.

[\S/uperman]

Paul Telfer is the name.
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/zoozone/paul-telfer-289x300.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/dalbyrl/po.jpg



JK, I have a feeling it is Padalecki, but hope not. We can do better!

[Lighthouse]

I'm usually a big fan of Clint, but I have to say I'm really disappointed in him for that piece. He lumped all the people who didn't like it into this little niche who wanted some Michael Bay type one-on-one action flick. Then told us we should all be happy for what we got. The whole second paragraph sounds like something a common whining forum troll would say. He's better then that claptrap article.

[MAN O STEEL]

He's better then that claptrap article.


Well apparently not :oldrazz:. He wrote it, he means it. Dude sounds like a douche of the highest regard to me.





Steve

[Maximillian]

Chris Columbus. Are they serious? What movies has he directed that's good enough for him to take on Superman?

[GreenKToo]

I'm usually a big fan of Clint, but I have to say I'm really disappointed in him for that piece. He lumped all the people who didn't like it into this little niche who wanted some Michael Bay type one-on-one action flick. Then told us we should all be happy for what we got. The whole second paragraph sounds like something a common whining forum troll would say. He's better then that claptrap article.

Well apparently not :oldrazz:. He wrote it, he means it. Dude sounds like a douche of the highest regard to me.





Steve
I agree. I hate it for him, but if the MAJORITY had of liked it, ( the marjority being the paying public ) then it WOULD have gotten a sequel.
It's as simple as that. Money talks, BS walks.
WB couldnt very well go ahead and make a sequel to SR with the bad buzz and the split amongst the fans surrounding it.

[Showtime]

Well apparently not :oldrazz:. He wrote it, he means it. Dude sounds like a douche of the highest regard to me.


Not a douche at all, great dude. Very likeable.

Chris Columbus. Are they serious? What movies has he directed that's good enough for him to take on Superman?

I wouldn't worry about it.

[Webhead2006]

yea i thought clint's article wasnt good either. But hey he has his views and we all have our views. All we can hope for is that the studio makes something we all as fans can enjoy in some form or something. As for columbus yea whos to know if its a true rumor and even if it is would he take it or would someone else's name likely come in and knock him out.

[griffolyon12]

I think Columbus is a terrific choice for Superman, his sensibilities matching the character, but I'm a Harry Potter fan so I'm biased to see him do something on that level again.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree. I hate it for him, but if the MAJORITY had of liked it, ( the marjority being the paying public ) then it WOULD have gotten a sequel.
It's as simple as that. Money talks, BS walks.
WB couldnt very well go ahead and make a sequel to SR with the bad buzz and the split amongst the fans surrounding it.Once again the movie did have a sequel planned. The bad buzz for Superman Returns is much like the bad buzz for Smallville it just comes from us fans. The general public looked at Superman Returns as it was an okay movie not great but okay. The reason we do not have a sequel to the movie is another matter or subject on it's own where the studio ran into a problem with Singer then the strike. Although the fans reaction did play some part it was not as big as people like to make it because like it or not a sequel was given the go a head even after the box office was in.

[GreenKToo]

I know it was, but the fact remains it didnt happen regardless of the cause.

[\S/uperman]

Treating the Columbus bit as rumor. I just think his experience with their vision would make a good film. I actually hope they take a look at Ratner again btw. McG though? No thanks.

[Webhead2006]

well we are more then likely to hear a few mores soon enough. I hope we hear some interesting choices.

[dark_b]

I came across two good quotes that summarize why toning Superman down power wise is just a bad idea:

"Of the American comics, I probably read more (Superman) books than any other American titles. Not because I wanted to be Superman. It wasn't an empowerment fantasy ... (ellipsis mine) The reason I was fascinated by Superman was because his milieu was wonderful. In the very best sense of the word, Superman was absolutely wonderful. Full of wonder. There were all these concepts and characters, like Kandor, Krypto, time travel, Lori Lemaris, the Phantom Zone, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Bizarro, all this fantastic *****. It was full of wonder and it would spark up my imagination ... The thig that attracted me to Superman was the fact that he could fly. He could see through walls. He could do all these things. He had marvelous toys. He had a marvelous place that he lived in. All his friends were marvelous. He's got buddies in the future that were all marvelous. He knew all the Justice League of America and they were marvelous. I know that this has been said before so it's kind of cliche, but if you go back to the earliest form of storytelling, these stories would have been about someone who did something amazing. 'This guy Hercules was so strong. This guy Hercules, nothing could hurt him.' People love to hear that sort of stuff: Gilgamesh, the Odyssey, Jesus Christ." - Alan Moore


"Every time someone says Superman is too powerful and too boring to write, my head practically explodes, because I don't understand how you can not have the imagination to make that interesting." - Gail Simoneit works for one movie.

but explain to me how will you make the sequel bigger when even in the first movie he was alredy so powerful?

[Webhead2006]

yea i rather start superman at a modest power level, and then show over time he gets more powerful over time.

[Showtime]

http://www.collider.com/2010/07/09/superman-chris-columbus-not-offered-direct-rumor-debunked/#more-36626
Contrary to yesterday’s online rumor (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8194), trusted sources have told us that Chris Columbus has NOT been offered the chance to helm the next Superman movie. Yesterday’s rumor was just one of those cases of a titillating story catching fire and igniting intense speculation. And it wasn’t the craziest rumor ever. Columbus is known for putting together big franchise pictures (the first two Harry Potter movies; Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief).

But Columbus hasn’t been offered the opportunity to put together Superman’s next adventure on the big screen. The new Superman movie, tentatively titled The Man of Steel, is being written by David Goyer (Batman Begins) with Christopher Nolan producing


About time somebody said it out loud.

[Lighthouse]

I think Columbus is a terrific choice for Superman, his sensibilities matching the character, but I'm a Harry Potter fan so I'm biased to see him do something on that level again.

Columbus is really hit and miss for me. I loved the first two Harry Potter movies, but was absolutely stunned at how terrible Percy Jackson was. I could not believe it was the same director.

[solidsnake86]

http://www.collider.com/2010/07/09/superman-chris-columbus-not-offered-direct-rumor-debunked/#more-36626


About time somebody said it out loud.

What I hope this rumour accomplishes is that it get some to look into it and actually list some potential candidates to direct. With comic con, and the focus on green lantern, on the horizon, I doubt WB really want anything to leak until after thats done.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Good thing that Chris Columbus thing isn't true.

Also I think that Moviehole article took things too far because most people have not said that they wanted the last Superman movie too be like Transformers. I have no problem with him loving the movie and disliking the fact that a sequel isn't going to be made but you don't have to insult people to get that opinion across. I mean I don't understand people who don't like the first two Spider-Man movies but I don't call them a-holes for not liking them. Is he afraid of loving movies that most people don't like? Anyway, I'm going to try and take show at his word that he is a nice guy but that was not a nice or coherent article.

[raybia]

http://www.collider.com/2010/07/09/superman-chris-columbus-not-offered-direct-rumor-debunked/#more-36626


About time somebody said it out loud.

If Nolan wasn't overseeing Superman, the Columbus rumor would have been a little more credible but I just don't see Nolan handpicking Columbus. Now Nolan picking a Kathyrn Bigelow or a Michael Mann for example would see more credible to me.

[The Batman]

it works for one movie

but explain to me how will you make the sequel bigger when even in the first movie he was alredy so powerful?

explain what? this isnt dragon ball z. This isnt about going to power level 5-700. Just make him powerful and keep him that way. The creative part is the different ways he uses his powers, as well as the different threats he would face.

Honestly, this is the type of thinking simone bashes in her quote. We wouldnt be questioning Batman's skill set, or how spider-man's webbing should get stronger with each movie.

[raybia]

explain what? this isnt dragon ball z. This isnt about going to power level 5-700. Just make him powerful and keep him that way. The creative part is the different ways he uses his powers, as well as the different threats he would face.

Honestly, this is the type of thinking simone bashes in her quote. We wouldnt be questioning Batman's skill set, or how spider-man's webbing should get stronger with each movie.

Yeah I agree. Look at M. Night's approach in Unbreakable. Very cool!

[GreenKToo]

Love that movie. M. Night at his best.

[Webhead2006]

well interesting to see the columbus rumor debunked. I still wouldnt have been totally against him as the director. Cant wait to see what names we will hear being lined up for the film.

[dark_b]

explain what? this isnt dragon ball z. This isnt about going to power level 5-700. Just make him powerful and keep him that way. The creative part is the different ways he uses his powers, as well as the different threats he would face.

Honestly, this is the type of thinking simone bashes in her quote. We wouldnt be questioning Batman's skill set, or how spider-man's webbing should get stronger with each movie.didnt i use the word ''bigger''?

didnt i wrotte ''sequel bigger''?

it was not talking about making him more stronger in the sequel. its about making every movie the best movie it can be at that time with that character. this means that every action scene needs to be as huge as possible. how will oyu top the action in the sequel ?

[dark_b]

If Nolan wasn't overseeing Superman, the Columbus rumor would have been a little more credible but I just don't see Nolan handpicking Columbus. Now Nolan picking a Kathyrn Bigelow or a Michael Mann for example would see more credible to me.you think that Nolan would go out asking Mann and Bigelow for superman? you think he would go out asking this type of directors with this kind of status in hollywood for superman?

you think that WB( who pays the bills and who will have to give the money to the director) would let Nolan choose this kind of directors?

[The Batman]

didnt i use the word ''bigger''?

didnt i wrotte ''sequel bigger''?

it was not talking about making him more stronger in the sequel. its about making every movie the best movie it can be at that time with that character. this means that every action scene needs to be as huge as possible. how will oyu top the action in the sequel ?

Once again with your post, I fail to see how making him powerful disallows you from making better action in sequels. Once again, we dont question Batman skill set and "how could the action be better in the sequel when bats is a martial arts master"? especially since in BB he fought ninjas compared to just fighting gangstas and SWAT in TDK...and the action was STILL better in TDK.

For a bunch of people who're superman fans, this board shows a scary lack of imagination.

[GreenKToo]

I think they should go all out with this film and not have the usual ''just wait till the sequel for more and bigger action'' talk that film makers seem to love so much. I hate it when they say that.

The paying public wants and demands big action in their films now-a-days, if you don't give it to them, then films like this will fail to bring in the big $$$ that the studios want, it's simple as that.

This reboot could *COULD* be a one shot deal, we just don't know yet. It will will have a hard enough time as it is drawing in those in the public that didn't like SR. If you bore them, then forgot about a sequel.

If it has big action scenes, a good story, a superfight ( thats a MUST) and a slam dunk of a cast, then that will generate good w.o.m., and the sequel (if there is one) will take care of its self. Let the writers worry about topping the first film, thats what they get paid to do, and if they're worth a damn, they can do it.

[tmiller2]

Glad Nolan is involved with this project.

The last one was horrible - poor storyline, terrible casting (lois lane) and darn right boring!

I was so disappointed with the director for leaving x-men to direct superman.

I didn't like the idea of superman having a son either. He should be a figure forever lasting...not reincarnated to a son.

[Webhead2006]

yea they need to make the right calls this time. No time to screw things up this time.

[maenalus]

I like both the planet-moving Superman and the original no-flying Superman, so which ever way the movie goes will be alright with me. I lean towards favoring a toned-down power level because it would be different from previous films.

[GreenKToo]

Personally, I think a 100,000 tons would be just fine as his limit..thats an Aircraft Carrier's weight.

[maenalus]

Lifting aircraft carriers with your hands is certainly worthy of the name Superman, no die hard fan of planet-mover Supes can argue with that.

[Young Superman]

Personally, I think a 100,000 tons would be just fine as his limit..thats an Aircraft Carrier's weight.

Agreed

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Sounds good to me.