WB Superman Reboot 3.0: Christopher Nolan Edition

[The Executioner]

Well...I do not see if he did a Supes film what be real about an alien god like being saving world from evil aliens. Superman does fight crime which is drama, mystery/cime related, and he is also an action character so their be an action movie vibe right their and he can have suspense with audience on the edge of their seats wanting to know what will happen next. Mann done action, drama, mystery/crime and suspense films and a really goo job with them too. The movie can be PG-13, and Superman world and villians can be dark but just not Superman himself. I mean city of Metropolis is not Gotham City but before Supes comes its not bright either, so Mann showing a Metropolis thats bad and Superman coming in and cleaning it up will be one of the contributes of how great Superman truly is.

[maenalus]

Because those filmmaking teams are talented...and WB's trusts them to execute a solid product.

Makes sense to me.

Makes sense to me too.

[DorkyFresh]

i see what you're saying...i just don't agree. yes there will need to be dark scenes, but i don't think the first in a series of Superman movies should overall be a dark film. the circumstances and situations can be dark, but the overall feel of the movie should be optimistic (ala Star Trek) and Michael Mann has yet to make a film like that........and again, he's never touched material that's not based on reality. all his films are HEAVILY rooted in reality.

[The Executioner]

i see what you're saying...i just don't agree. yes there will need to be dark scenes, but i don't think the first in a series of Superman movies should overall be a dark film. the circumstances and situations can be dark, but the overall feel of the movie should be optimistic (ala Star Trek) and Michael Mann has yet to make a film like that........and again, he's never touched material that's not based on reality. all his films are HEAVILY rooted in reality.

True...I guess he fits more for Sin City a crime drama like that or The Spirit. Well I got another guy who should direct a Superman film, Ridley Scott. He has donefantasy movies and even though his films been dark, he can change that style for a Superman movie.

[Comicfan]

If neither of the Nolans direct, then, how much decision power would have another director on casting or the script?

[GL's Light]

...and again, he's never touched material that's not based on reality. all his films are HEAVILY rooted in reality.
Not so. His second feature film was The Keep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keep_(film)). He was also attached to direct Tonight, He Comes for a time (which was eventually made as Hancock by Peter Berg, with Mann involved as one of the producers and appearing briefly onscreen).

[GreenKToo]

WB would probably let Krusty the clown direct if that was Nolan's wish. Dudes a God to them.

[The Executioner]

Not so. His second feature film was The Keep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keep_(film)). He was also attached to direct Tonight, He Comes for a time (which was eventually made as Hancock by Peter Berg, with Mann involved as one of the producers and appearing briefly onscreen).

Oh so he has done some fantasy stuff before...well then why not Superman next...he can tone the film down to be light hearted.

[GreenKToo]

I hope the rumors about hearing some superman related news at the con is true, but i'm not gonna hold my breath..been there done that.

[The Executioner]

Yeah me too like to have a director for this film soon...also how do you get a picture for your status?

[BH/HHH]

Yeah I really hope the rumours are true of some Superman movie related news, guess we shall find out in the coming days.

[Bruce_Begins]

I hope that new director has some experience, I would not mind someone like Chris Columbus or Brett Ratner.

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[Doctor Jones]

Brett Ratner? Are you ****ing kidding me?

I'd take Robert Zemeckis in his pre motion capture fetish days.

[dark_b]

whats the worst thing that could happen if the next sueprman movie is not good? its not like we will not get the next movie 3 years later .

so why not risk it all with a guy who never even directed a commercial or a short movie? give it to Jonathan.

people are scared way to much. look at the superman history. from 80's until now we had a superman movie every 5 years. look at batman only 2 movies.



:o:whatever:

[GreenKToo]

I hope that new director has some experience, I would not mind someone like Chris Columbus or Brett Ratner.

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[treeringralph]

Yeah I really hope the rumours are true of some Superman movie related news, guess we shall find out in the coming days.

Could these events TODAY be potential announcement times?

From newsarama:


3:00-4:00 Superman: Man of Tomorrow— It's a bird! It's a plane! It's The Man of Steel -- and he's back on Earth and primed to take 2010 by storm! Don't miss members of the exciting new Superman creative teams as they discuss their plans for Superman, Lex Luthor, Superboy, Supergirl, and more led by DC group editor Matt Idelson, with Paul Cornell (Action Comics), Shane Davis (Superman: Earth One), Sterling Gates (Supergirl), Jeff Lemire (Superboy), J. Michael Straczynski (Superman: Earth One, Superman), and others. Room 6DE


4:15-5:15 DC Nation Special Edition— It's the DC Nation State of the Union address as DC co-publishers Dan DiDio and Jim Lee join forces to give fans all the info they can handle! With those two leading the Nation, expect the unexpected...The Nation welcomes all! Room 6DE


I know these are Superman COMIC related, but...so is a movie. I just thought since the first session is focused on Superman it might be a canidate and the second one (though less likely) could at least hint at an announcement coming up later this weekend.

Neither sessions officially lists Johns, and I imagine he'll be present for something like this...if he isn't the messenger himself.

I guess we'll find out.

trr

[romeogbs19]

whats the worst thing that could happen if the next sueprman movie is not good? its not like we will not get the next movie 3 years later .

so why not risk it all with a guy who never even directed a commercial or a short movie? give it to Jonathan.

people are scared way to much. look at the superman history. from 80's until now we had a superman movie every 5 years. look at batman only 2 movies.



:o:whatever:

Umm ... sorry, dark_b but you're totally off on that comment.

You're leaving out a lot of Bat films. Recall the campy Adam West film and then the Keaton led Batman franchise that led to three more films? Count the Batman animated movie that also hit theaters and Batman has had 8 movies, 7 of them since 1989.

Contrast that with Superman. Supes has had 5 films since 1978 (Quest for Peace was in 1987), and only 1 since 1989.

If Nolan screws up with this take on Superman, odds are we won't see another Superman-only film for the next several decades.

Not saying I don't support Nolan (I say give him the job), but the stakes are definitely high.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Dan DiDio never reveals anything useful about the movies..

I've been to his panels before and have asked questions.

[GL's Light]

Umm ... sorry, dark_b but you're totally off on that comment.
I believe he was being sarcastic. :cwink:

[The Executioner]

Umm ... sorry, dark_b but you're totally off on that comment.

You're leaving out a lot of Bat films. Recall the campy Adam West film and then the Keaton led Batman franchise that led to three more films? Count the Batman animated movie that also hit theaters and Batman has had 8 movies, 7 of them since 1989.

Contrast that with Superman. Supes has had 5 films since 1978 (Quest for Peace was in 1987), and only 1 since 1989.

If Nolan screws up with this take on Superman, odds are we won't see another Superman-only film for the next several decades.

Not saying I don't support Nolan (I say give him the job), but the stakes are definitely high.

Yeah if this Superman movie ends up bad he may be like The Punisher, not getting any more movies anytime soon. And will proably have to settle for supporting cast like roles.

[General Vulcun]

Umm ... sorry, dark_b but you're totally off on that comment.

You're leaving out a lot of Bat films. Recall the campy Adam West film and then the Keaton led Batman franchise that led to three more films? Count the Batman animated movie that also hit theaters and Batman has had 8 movies, 7 of them since 1989.

Contrast that with Superman. Supes has had 5 films since 1978 (Quest for Peace was in 1987), and only 1 since 1989.

If Nolan screws up with this take on Superman, odds are we won't see another Superman-only film for the next several decades.

Not saying I don't support Nolan (I say give him the job), but the stakes are definitely high.

I personally have faith that this could end up being the best Superman film, one of the best superhero films, and even a serious Oscar contender (imagine a Best Picture race that has Batman 3 and The Man of Steel battling for the top prize). But, if this film does fail to inject some excitement and interest into Superman and ends up a huge flop, I bet we don't see Superman again until WB launches JLA, which would probably be 5-6 years at the most, IMO.

[GreenKToo]

No way am I gonna use talk like that again, not after SR. I want to see who directs, the cast, who scores it, etc etc, before I get *very* excited. Don't get me wrong, I am excited, but I was for SR at this stage as well.
I'm.......cautiously optimistic

[Dark Knight]

Inception breaks 100 million mark domestically!

Congrats and Cheers to Chris Nolan and his entire filmmaking team cast and crew!

I will be seeing it again this weekend and looking forward to it!

http://www.nolanfans.com/

[Man of Tomorrow]

Imagine action sequences like this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQHYUsptJk

Check out Superman at 3:35

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Superman desperately needs an awesome fight scene.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I like the camera shaking from the sheer power of Superman's speed.

Awesome.

[JokerLedger]

This is premature but I honestly believe that The Man of Steel will be a HUGE hit that will revitalize the Superman franchise. Why? It's freakin Nolan dammit. Sure, his little bro who has never directed a single film in his life might get the gig but that doesn't really matter if you really think about it. When they're marketing this movie, "THE DARK KNIGHT" and "INCEPTION" will be all over the trailers and tv spots. That alone will get the GENERAL AUDIENCE in the theatres.

With big brother Nolan's help, I don't think Jonah can do no wrong. I really can't.

[J.Howlett]

Joker,

Not to mention, if it comes out the same years as Batman 3 (which we know will be HUGE), you can realistically says "From the creators of The Dark Knight, Inception, and Batman 3" during the commercials. That'll easily see some tickets the first weekend...

[dark_b]

This is premature but I honestly believe that The Man of Steel will be a HUGE hit that will revitalize the Superman franchise. Why? It's freakin Nolan dammit. Sure, his little bro who has never directed a single film in his life might get the gig but that doesn't really matter if you really think about it. When they're marketing this movie, "THE DARK KNIGHT" and "INCEPTION" will be all over the trailers and tv spots. That alone will get the GENERAL AUDIENCE in the theatres.

With big brother Nolan's help, I don't think Jonah can do no wrong. I really can't.fans like you are the reason why i dont go in the batman section anymore. and i think TDK is a masterpiece.

fans like you scare me becuase............ohhhh without insults right mods? :doh::hehe:

[J.Howlett]

dark b,

He does have a point, though. Opening weekend will be heavily marketed based on those past films. And it should. If you don't want another reboot a few years after this reboot, it's gotta be big at the box office. Using the "Nolan" name will help that. Just look at Inception. Now, that again, was for opening weekend until we got a chance to see the film and we saw how that turned out.

Now, we don't know anything about little brother Nolan as a director. I would think WB would want a sure hand behind the camera. But, maybe Jonah's really got something. We have no idea if he has a vault of 15 short films he's directed or whatnot. We have no idea how much he's been watching his brother behind the scenes, picking up pointers all these years. We just don't know.

But, I'm not going to dismiss him as a director...just yet. He's a great writer. He might actually have some chops behind the camera. If he does indeed get the job, we won't and can't make any assumptions until we actually see footage cut together.

Off of the top of my head, I can't think of another director who wants the job and should get the job. Why not Jonah?

[dark_b]

lets make something clear. superman is superman. you dont need the name Nolan to open a superman mvoie with huge BO numbers.

[dark_b]

dark b,

He does have a point, though. Opening weekend will be heavily marketed based on those past films. And it should. If you don't want another reboot a few years after this reboot, it's gotta be big at the box office. Using the "Nolan" name will help that. Just look at Inception. Now, that again, was for opening weekend until we got a chance to see the film and we saw how that turned out.

Now, we don't know anything about little brother Nolan as a director. I would think WB would want a sure hand behind the camera. But, maybe Jonah's really got something. We have no idea if he has a vault of 15 short films he's directed or whatnot. We have no idea how much he's been watching his brother behind the scenes, picking up pointers all these years. We just don't know.

But, I'm not going to dismiss him as a director...just yet. He's a great writer. He might actually have some chops behind the camera. If he does indeed get the job, we won't and can't make any assumptions until we actually see footage cut together.

Off of the top of my head, I can't think of another director who wants the job and should get the job. Why not Jonah?

he never made a short movie.

so now Jonathan has a lot of short movies that he never realesed?holly s.... maybe he is a huge director and he never used hes real name. :hehe:

[GL's Light]

Maybe Jonathan could direct some TV commercials. Then dark b could get on board with him making his feature film directorial debut on a big budget film. :yay:

[dark_b]

i wouldnt hav a problem with him if he directed at least one bad mvie. it doesnt have to be a good movie.

i just want someone who worked for at least 6 months on a real movie

[GL's Light]

i wouldnt hav a problem with him if he directed at least one bad mvie. it doesnt have to be a good movie.
That doesn't make sense at all.

i just want someone who worked for at least 6 months on a real movie
If Disney had that mentality they wouldn't have hired Joseph Kosinski to direct Tron: Legacy and you wouldn't have your nifty avatar.

[GreenKToo]

lets make something clear. superman is superman. you dont need the name Nolan to open a superman mvoie with huge BO numbers.
SR didnt open huge. Even its first night before WOM kicked in was just ''so so''.
No, IMVHO, what will be needed for this film to have a huge opening, is a top notch cast, lots and LOTS of action, a bright tone, and a supervillain thats worthy of Superman, along with some superfights.
*IF* they market this film to show that its NOTHING like SR, then it *SHOULD* open big. (if it were me, i'd hire a depp or leo for Lex, both are big BO draws.)
In the teasers and trailers, they will need to show the villain, show the cast, show that it has fights and lots of destruction in Metropolis, i'm talking skyscrapers damaged or collapsed all over the city with smoke rising up everywhere. They shouldnt be shy about it, show it. *IF* they do that, then it should be just fine imo.

EDIT: And, like others have said, having the name, ''from the creators of TDK and Inception'' attached to it wouldnt hurt either.

[manofsteel4life]

you know honestly i think everyone is overreacting over this. You know everyonelse, meaning the GP is not gonna really care who gets the directing gig. Its just us fans boys. But i do agree, that it helps to announce that in the trailer, the people who brought you inception, or the Darknight, bring you the M.O.S. It will get people talking.

[Crook]

lets make something clear. superman is superman. you dont need the name Nolan to open a superman mvoie with huge BO numbers.
At this point, you need something other than Superman to sell the property. Like it or not, SR divided the audience and did NOTHING to repair his image with audiences. So you'll need a much more enticing hook. TDK and Inception are the golden boy properties of Hollywood and mainstream, right now.

If Jonah gets it, I'm damn sure that's what they'll heavily rely on.

[Abraham]

They wouldn't give Green Lantern to a guy cause, even though he wrote the script, had only previously directed a comedy... Jonah hasn't directed a damn thing. God Bless Nepotism.

[MAN O STEEL]

i wouldnt hav a problem with him if he directed at least one bad mvie. it doesnt have to be a good movie.

i just want someone who worked for at least 6 months on a real movie


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow, just when your posts couldn't get any more slapsticky. So based on this response you wouldn't care if Michael Bay directed?. Since ya know, you don't care if the director has made a bad movie 'n' all. Thank god your not in control, seriously.




Steve

[bgshw44]

SR didnt open huge. Even its first night before WOM kicked in was just ''so so''.
No, IMVHO, what will be needed for this film to have a huge opening, is a top notch cast, lots and LOTS of action, a bright tone, and a supervillain thats worthy of Superman, along with some superfights.
*IF* they market this film to show that its NOTHING like SR, then it *SHOULD* open big. (if it were me, i'd hire a depp or leo for Lex, both are big BO draws.)
In the teasers and trailers, they will need to show the villain, show the cast, show that it has fights and lots of destruction in Metropolis, i'm talking skyscrapers damaged or collapsed all over the city with smoke rising up everywhere. They shouldnt be shy about it, show it. *IF* they do that, then it should be just fine imo.

EDIT: And, like others have said, having the name, ''from the creators of TDK and Inception'' attached to it wouldnt hurt either.

perfectly said

[Anita18]

At this point, you need something other than Superman to sell the property. Like it or not, SR divided the audience and did NOTHING to repair his image with audiences. So you'll need a much more enticing hook. TDK and Inception are the golden boy properties of Hollywood and mainstream, right now.

If Jonah gets it, I'm damn sure that's what they'll heavily rely on.
A Superman movie technically should be able to sell itself, like they didn't need any hooks for TDK because it's Batman vs. Joker.

But the fact that TDK and now Inception grabbed the general audiences' attention, you might as well use it. It'll give the film A TON of credibility that it wouldn't have otherwise.

And it wouldn't have to be Jonah directing it either. TF had the hook of "From producer Steven Spielberg" so they can do the same for Chris no matter who directs. :funny:

[dark_b]

now that Inception is popular they will 100% use in the trailers '' from the producer Chris Nolan''

which is great

[GreenKToo]

Anybody else think we won't be hearing anything supes related from the con?

[Blackman]

I never expect anything big from DC except "We're working on a (insert character/team name here) and you should see it soon!"

[Dark_Lord]

Anybody else think we won't be hearing anything supes related from the con?

Yes...:csad:. I hope we hear something official by the end of the year though. Hopefully we'll also hear something about Batman 3. Possibly after Comic-Con, like it happened with The Dark Knight.

[BH/HHH]

DC are majoryly dumb sometimes, its almost like they dont want to create any buzz for their movies. Do they know how stupid they look sometimes? especially when the rumours of Nolan producing came out, they denied it, then it turned out its true. Just how dumb can they be?!

Comic Con would be the perfect time to announce the director.

[Sub-Zero]

lets make something clear. superman is superman. you dont need the name Nolan to open a superman mvoie with huge BO numbers.


actually with the way superman returns opened, having the nolan name or a "from the team that brought you the dark knight" on it would be a huge advantage.

[Lighthouse]

This Comiccon has been pretty "meh" so far.

[GreenKToo]

FYI, its on G4.

[Blackman]

This Comiccon has been pretty "meh" so far.
The MArvel stuff is really exciting but the WB stuff was kind of weak

[maenalus]

Yes...:csad:. I hope we hear something official by the end of the year though. Hopefully we'll also hear something about Batman 3. Possibly after Comic-Con, like it happened with The Dark Knight.

There's no doubt we'll get at least the director by the end of the year, and I would bet the actor for Supes as well.

[General Vulcun]

Zac Efron for Superman

I'm calling it right now. :o

[\S/uperman]

The Efron joke never gets old. Oh wait it does :mad:












:)

[General Vulcun]

The funny part is I'm kind of serious about it. :dry:


:hehe:

[bgshw44]

we will definately get a director and superman by year end. they will be shooting next summer. it goes by so fast

[BH/HHH]

we will definately get a director and superman by year end. they will be shooting next summer. it goes by so fast

Yeah for definite especially with the Christmas 2012 release date.

[MAN O STEEL]

WB really need to learn how to market their DC films though. I mean they're already got the cast, director, Teaser, everything together for Avengers over at Marvel & that movie is also 2 years away. It may seem pointless but it's smart marketing. It's getting it out there. WB are useless turds. They made GL look bad by having almost nothing to offer & letting Marvel take the spotlight. It's pathetic. Sometimes I wish Marvel had created Superman, he'd be in better hands.




Steve

[dark_b]

WB really need to learn how to market their DC films though. I mean they're already got the cast, director, Teaser, everything together for Avengers over at Marvel & that movie is also 2 years away. It may seem pointless but it's smart marketing. It's getting it out there. WB are useless turds. They made GL look bad by having almost nothing to offer & letting Marvel take the spotlight. It's pathetic. Sometimes I wish Marvel had created Superman, he'd be in better hands.




Stevei agree because every Marvel movie from 2008 was perfect and a BO hit.

like The Incredible Hulk right? or like the best sequel ever Iron Man 2 right ?




:dry::whatever:

[GreenKToo]

WB really need to learn how to market their DC films though. I mean they're already got the cast, director, Teaser, everything together for Avengers over at Marvel & that movie is also 2 years away. It may seem pointless but it's smart marketing. It's getting it out there. WB are useless turds. They made GL look bad by having almost nothing to offer & letting Marvel take the spotlight. It's pathetic. Sometimes I wish Marvel had created Superman, he'd be in better hands.




Steve
Marvel used the con to start the buzz for the first IM, and it worked brillantly too. If an upcoming film ever needed some good positive buzz started, its the superman reboot.

Meh, I wasn't expecting anything from wB about supes anyway, but it still doesnt change the fact that they are their own worst enemy when it comes to marketing. other than we geeks, not many know that nolan will be overseeing the reboot, and the con would have been a perfect time to announce it to the world. it wouldnt have taken but a min or two either.

Like you said, they talked about avengers, even had the cast on stage, and its release is just as far away as superman's, dumb move not to mention supes imo. GL didnt have much anyway, so what was there to overshadow.

[GL's Light]

There's plenty of time to build buzz for the next Superman film, and you can only make announcements if the deals are set. It's going to make a big splash when they announce a director and firm release date for Superman. It's not as if Comic-Con is the only time to do it.

[MAN O STEEL]

Marvel used the con to start the buzz for the first IM, and it worked brillantly too. If an upcoming film ever needed some good positive buzz started, its the superman reboot.
Meh, I wasn't expecting anything from wB about supes anyway, but it still doesnt change the fact that they are their own worst enemy when it comes to marketing.


Marvel know how to treat their fans, plain & simple. Comic Con is the best place to release news because your telling it to the people who truly care & by doing that, they'll tell their friends (People who couldn't make it to the con), who will tell their friends (Other comic enthusiasts), who will tell their friends ( The General Audience, family etc) & so on & so forth. That's how you market & publicize your property. It's smart & it gets it out their early so that people are in the know & can get excited about thing's. I know they probably disdn't have alot to tell, but even the smallest of info would have meant the world to the fans. I just don't get it. Wb way of thinking is obviously on a different level to ours.



Steve

[MAN O STEEL]

It's not as if Comic-Con is the only time to do it.


But that is the only time for comic book movies. That's where it's all at. That's where the excitement is. Marketing isn't just about making good trailers or putting up good posters it's about knowing good times to drop bits of info & there is no better time than the Con. It's the mecca for movies just like Superman, batman etc etc. Just seems to me that they missed a good opportunity to do exactly what marvel did with Avengers, & that's blow the competition away, which is exactly what they did, they took all the momentum away from GL/DC & made the fans feel so excited & amped for a film still 2 years away. that's what I call respecting your fans.



Steve

[GreenKToo]

There's plenty of time to build buzz for the next Superman film, and you can only make announcements if the deals are set. It's going to make a big splash when they announce a director and firm release date for Superman. It's not as if Comic-Con is the only time to do it.
I know, its just that it seems like they really dont care if their CB films have good marketing or not, damn the con people seems to be their attitude.
Just look at how they promoted GL at the con, it didnt have much and its being filmed RIGHT now. If they won't promote it at a place like that, then what does that say for supes.

[MAN O STEEL]

I understand they are in the middle of filming but apparently Cap America has only been filming for like 8 days & they, from what I heard had plenty more to say & show. Green Lantern has been going on for roughly 90 days now. It's simply another case of WB not giving a rats *** & letting Marvel win yet again.




Steve

[GL's Light]

But that is the only time for comic book movies. That's where it's all at. That's where the excitement is.
Comic-Con is a very good time to take the opportunity to announce things, but it's not the only time. The entertainment media and the internet can be stoked into a frenzy at superhero movie news on pretty much a perennial basis.

Just look at how they promoted GL at the con, it didnt have much and its being filmed RIGHT now. If they won't promote it at a place like that, then what does that say for supes.
I think that's an overstatement. Their early efforts regarding Green Lantern could be better, but the panel for Green Lantern had about as much on offer as is typical for Comic-Con presentations.

I understand they are in the middle of filming but apparently Cap America has only been filming for like 8 days & they, from what I heard had plenty more to say & show. Green Lantern has been going on for roughly 90 days now.
No, it was about the same: a teaser trailer and a Q&A session.

[Ipodman]

I would love to have something on Batman 3 and Superman, but seeing how they are out only in 2012, i would expect something major only in 2011 Comic con.

[matrix_ghost]

I would love to have something on Batman 3 and Superman, but seeing how they are out only in 2012, i would expect something major only in 2011 Comic con.


Superman will most likely be promoted quite heavily at the 2012 CC.
With reports that Superman will open be released december 2012 that basically gives them time to promote superman at the 2011 and 2012 CC.

Look at Tron.
CC 2008 : Teaser trailer shown
CC 2009 : teaser trailer shown again , only this time in 3-d as well as art work
CC 2010 : 8 min of Tron in 3-d

Shooting on Supes will most likely begin somewhere in 2011 so maybe you'll see some artwork , proof of concept tests and maybe some brief footage ( a la GL). But by 2012 with post.prod work being done on supes , WB should do the right thing and show some action packed footage at CC in 3-d

[dark_b]

Superman will most likely be promoted quite heavily at the 2012 CC.
With reports that Superman will open be released december 2012 that basically gives them time to promote superman at the 2011 and 2012 CC.

Look at Tron.
CC 2008 : Teaser trailer shown
CC 2009 : teaser trailer shown again , only this time in 3-d as well as art work
CC 2010 : 8 min of Tron in 3-d

Shooting on Supes will most likely begin somewhere in 2011 so maybe you'll see some artwork , proof of concept tests and maybe some brief footage ( a la GL). But by 2012 with post.prod work being done on supes , WB should do the right thing and show some action packed footage at CC in 3-dconverted 3D. :awesome:

[Batmania]

But that is the only time for comic book movies. That's where it's all at. That's where the excitement is. Marketing isn't just about making good trailers or putting up good posters it's about knowing good times to drop bits of info & there is no better time than the Con.


Steve
The title of The Dark Knight and the casting of Heath Ledger as The Joker weren't announced until the week after Comic-Con, back in 2006. And yet the news still managed to create plenty of buzz and discussion.

[The Batman]

Batmania, I find that people dont like it when you make sense

[MAN O STEEL]

et the news still managed to create plenty of buzz and discussion.


Yeah, negative buzz. Everyone hated Ledger. My point being that TDK was a sequel to a successful movie, it didn't need much. Superman has had 3 failed movie attempts. Superman needs more buzz then a, wait till the last minute marketing campaign. WB need to get in early & work hard to let those people know that they'll get it right this time.




Steve

[MAN O STEEL]

Batmania, I find that people dont like it when you make sense


He didn't make sense, that's the sad thing.




Steve

[The Batman]

its not sad at all. you just dont agree with what he said.

[hopefuldreamer]

Yeah, negative buzz. Everyone hated Ledger. My point being that TDK was a sequel to a successful movie, it didn't need much. Superman has had 3 failed movie attempts. Superman needs more buzz then a, wait till the last minute marketing campaign. WB need to get in early & work hard to let those people know that they'll get it right this time.




Steve

I dunno... I kind of like that they are giving us nothing for a while.

1. If they did everything at the same time as Marvel it would get ridiculously competative to the point of being too much.

Let Marvel have their showcase at Comic Con, and find a place that's for DC to scream about things.

The downside to knowing a lot about the Avengers already (before the individual movies have even come out), is that there is all this expectation being built.

Now, if Cap and Thor bomb, they are screwed, because they have assosiated everything so closely.

It's basically completely dependent on their success (which I actually could see failing... Captain America has a less cool reputation than Superman in terms of a goody goody, and most people have never even heard of Thor).

It scares me because all of this in the end will fall on Joss Whedon... it could break the guy or make the guy, and I just so hope it isn't ruined.

Anyway, my point was, sometimes it's good to do all your buzz close to the time, in big hits spaced out a couple of months.

Get people talking about nothing but you. Instead of talking about you and everything Marvel is doing too.

[MAN O STEEL]

its not sad at all. you just dont agree with what he said.


What is this BatGeeks unite or something? :oldrazz::hehe::woot:






Steve

[MAN O STEEL]

I dunno... I kind of like that they are giving us nothing for a while.


We've had nothing for 4 years. My patience is running thin

1. If they did everything at the same time as Marvel it would get ridiculously competative to the point of being too much.


I'm not talking about competing with Marvel, just saying marvel has the right idea. Much like Superman, alot of people are on the fense as to whether a united team of heroes can work on the big screen. marvel knows this & are getting in early to try build a POSITIVE buzz, in the hopes of easing into the movie rather than doing 2 more solo acts & then just coming from nowhere & getting eggs thrown at them.

The downside to knowing a lot about the Avengers already (before the individual movies have even come out), is that there is all this expectation being built.


EXACTLY!. Expectation, excitement, allowing the fans to marvel (Pun intended) at what they got. It's what being a geeks all about. WB/DC, have simply never understood this.

Now, if Cap and Thor bomb, they are screwed, because they have assosiated everything so closely.


Under perform, maybe?. Yes, Bomb?. HELLZ NO. You know as well as I that it will be far from bombing, it will be gauranteed to make enough to warrant an Avengers flick, even if it's not a gigantic success.

It's basically completely dependent on their success (which I actually could see failing... Captain America has a less cool reputation than Superman in terms of a goody goody, and most people have never even heard of Thor).


It's not about popularity or reputation. it's about how it's written & directed. How many people (General Audience) do you think cared or knew anything about Iron man before 2008?. All it takes is one good movie to make that character a legend. Your point is null & void.

It scares me because all of this in the end will fall on Joss Whedon... it could break the guy or make the guy, and I just so hope it isn't ruined.


That applies to any & every movie. Hell if people were so scared that a movie could potentially fail then movies would never get made. Hell most successful movies of the day were made against the good sense of most movie heads i.e, Rocky.




Steve

[GreenKToo]

Like I said, it doesnt matter what WE think, what matters is what the public thinks..who wants to bet that outside of a few fanboys/girls on a few websites, hardly no one knows Nolan is even involved with Superman.
Heck, most probably don't even know that another Superman film is planned period.
Marvel gets it right with their fans, WB does not.

[Showtime]

The problem is, fans don't matter. So it doesn't matter what the fans think. The general public is who you have to charm. The Batman fans would like to think they made The Dark Knight what it was, but it was the general public. General public = money. The fans will always show up for their character.

[Crook]

The thing is, failures with the comic book audience almost always translates with a failure in the general public as well. Plenty of times where beloved fanboy films don't get a hold in mainstream, but generally speaking the opposite isn't as common.

[General Vulcun]

I'm betting an announcement comes within 2 weeks at the most. Fans like us are checking daily for news like this, but I doubt the GA are checking for Con news online or in their papers as often as we are; more of a "if they come across it then they come across it" situation. Practically every news outlet will carry these announcements when they hit, and I think a fair number of the GA will come across it and probably tell some friends and family members, if they haven't seen it themselves. Personally, I'm counting on the trailers to make the GA crap their pants in excitement.

As for TDK, I was kind of surprised it was as successful as it was, mainly because of its sinister and tragic tone, not exactly aspiring to the image people have painted of superhero films (I believe it flopped in Japan, whereas the Spider-Man films were hits). I think the fact that the film managed to break a billion worldwide is a testament to its quality. If a film is great, word will get around and people will flock to see it. If TMOS is great, it'll be a film that people will want to see again and again. I personally believe it's just going to eat up the end of 2012/beginning of 2013.

[Showtime]

The thing is, failures with the comic book audience almost always translates with a failure in the general public as well. Plenty of times where beloved fanboy films don't get a hold in mainstream, but generally speaking the opposite isn't as common.

Not sure if that is the case, I guess in is on a case by case basis.

I mean fans loved the new version of "Hulk" but the general public cared just as much about as they did Ang's.

"Watchmen", fans loved it. The general public, not as much.

[GL's Light]

The general public - who, as has been rightly pointed out, make up a much bigger share of the audience for superhero movies than hardcore fans - only really get engaged when a marketing campaign is in full swing with trailers in theaters, spots on TV and billboards around the country.

[hopefuldreamer]

We've had nothing for 4 years. My patience is running thin

We've had nothing for 4 years because there has been nothing happening for 4 years, not because DC doesn't get marketing. There hasn't been a movie to market.

And for that matter, we have had things. But so many things that at one point it just got so insanely confusing. Every time there is even the rumour of an actor it's wildly overblown... sometimes i'd rather here nothing.


I'm not talking about competing with Marvel, just saying marvel has the right idea. Much like Superman, alot of people are on the fense as to whether a united team of heroes can work on the big screen. marvel knows this & are getting in early to try build a POSITIVE buzz, in the hopes of easing into the movie rather than doing 2 more solo acts & then just coming from nowhere & getting eggs thrown at them.

Well no one is suggesting come from no where.

All I said was that coming in on exactly the same day might be counter productive. Might cause people to feel like they have to pic a side.

Let people talk about The Avengers for a bit, and then about 2 or 3 months after the Thor and Cap Summer buzz, start filtering in trailers and tid bits. Why try to compete for the attention, when you can actually use the attention and success of marvel films to spark the interest in yours?


EXACTLY!. Expectation, excitement, allowing the fans to marvel (Pun intended) at what they got. It's what being a geeks all about. WB/DC, have simply never understood this.

Considering The Dark Knight is widely considered the most successful Superhero movie to date, I don't think it's a fair statement to say that WB/DC don't understand how to excite people.

I mean, what are you judging your assesment on?

This is an instance, in which the marketing for the Marvel movies upcoming is overtaking the marketing of DC. There are a lot of movies coming out at the moment, and I think DC have made the right choice.

Let Marvel have their moment in the limelight. Nearer the time, make Batman and Superman the only thing in people's minds, and The Avengers just some side plate that people are bored of talking about (especially if the movies aren't that popular).



Under perform, maybe?. Yes, Bomb?. HELLZ NO. You know as well as I that it will be far from bombing, it will be gauranteed to make enough to warrant an Avengers flick, even if it's not a gigantic success.

Yeah, true. Hopefully anyway, I love Joss Whedon.


It's not about popularity or reputation. it's about how it's written & directed. How many people (General Audience) do you think cared or knew anything about Iron man before 2008?. All it takes is one good movie to make that character a legend. Your point is null & void.

But doesn't that kind of support my point?

That it doesn't matter how much you push a character on people, make them well know, if the movie is great, it's going to be a big hit.

Now one knew anything about Iron Man before 2008? Does that mean that Marvel wasn't yelling about it 2 years before it would come out?


That applies to any & every movie. Hell if people were so scared that a movie could potentially fail then movies would never get made. Hell most successful movies of the day were made against the good sense of most movie heads i.e, Rocky.
[/QUOTE]

Well no, because i'm specifically referring to the fact it is being so massively bigged up. Like it's some kind of super movie, that is going to blow your mind. They haven't even finished writing it yet, and it's got all this expectation surrounding it.

And i think if you big something up that much when it's still in such early stages, your setting yourself up for a lot of people to be really angry when it doesn't fit the perfect picture they have been building up in their minds for 2 years.

[kalelkilla]

Hype will make the first weekend box office money, but if the movie sucks it will bomb no matter how much excitement they create at comic-con.

The Batman movies where a great success because they were great movies, not because they gave out free crap at comic-con or showed some footage to people that are going to see the movie no matter what.

[\S/uperman]

WHOA from Prison Mike on SV teaser:

Clark hitting the ground, the (SR)costume, Lois in the desert, Tess waking up in some cloning bank, Clark and Jonathan hug and I think Lionel is there too, Chloe picking up Fate's helmet and Lois saying "Superman", and Clark flying and carrying the Daily Planet Globe.


Routh's costume being used on SV

[General Vulcun]

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/07/rumor-david-s-goyer-wonder-woman-film.html

If true, it could leave Jonah as the sole candidate for Superman (if that other report is true as well).

[GreenKToo]

yeah, we heard that the other day..no announcement happened as far as I know.

[General Vulcun]

Ah, I see. Saw the first Superman-centric report posted here, didn't see the Wonder Woman story posted. Gotta check those dates a little more closely, lol.

[Showtime]

The general public - who, as has been rightly pointed out, make up a much bigger share of the audience for superhero movies than hardcore fans - only really get engaged when a marketing campaign is in full swing with trailers in theaters, spots on TV and billboards around the country.

Right. I was agreeing and supporting as well as disagreeing with Green K's point. Confusing isn't it?

He's right. Fans don't matter, but I don't necessarily believe Marvel has been doing anything more right than WB/DC. They have Hulk and two Iron Man's under their belt. WB/DC has two Batman's and a Superman film under their belt.

They are just taking their time, what if Thor and Captain America under perform. Just because they made the movies doesn't mean they're good.

[\S/uperman]

What if Thor and CA are a bust? Then GL, Superman, and final Batman film could easily shift the balance over to WB/DC for superhero movies :eek:

[Showtime]

yeah, we heard that the other day..no announcement happened as far as I know.

Of course there wasn't. It's Playlist, I don't think they've ever gotten anything right.

[GL's Light]

He's right. Fans don't matter, but I don't necessarily believe Marvel has been doing anything more right than WB/DC. They have Hulk and two Iron Man's under their belt. WB/DC has two Batman's and a Superman film under their belt.

They are just taking their time, what if Thor and Captain America under perform. Just because they made the movies doesn't mean they're good.
Yeah, I agree. Also, while fans have been frustrated at WB moving slowly - and some WB execs have even shared that frustration - it could end up being a blessing in disguise since WB still has a lot of the best, most marketable DC properties in reserve to utilize going forward. Bringing those properties to the screen for the first time with the benefit of the maturation of the superhero genre and advances in FX - hopefully guided by DC Entertainment in an empowered and intelligent way - could be to the benefit of the studio and fans alike in the long term.

[Showtime]

Yeah, I agree. Also, while fans have been frustrated at WB moving slowly - and some WB execs have even shared that frustration - it could end up being a blessing in disguise since WB still has a lot of the best, most marketable DC properties in reserve to utilize going forward. Bringing those properties to the screen for the first time with the benefit of the maturation of the superhero genre and advances in FX - hopefully guided by DC Entertainment in an empowered and intelligent way - could be to the benefit of the studio and fans alike in the long term.

To be honest, none of us would be seeing a Superman movie in 2012 if it weren't for this lawsuit. There is also a lot riding on Green Lantern, ie Flash and Wonder Woman among others. Hopefully Lantern will perform better with the general public than I think it will.

[GL's Light]

There is also a lot riding on Green Lantern, ie Flash and Wonder Woman among others.
Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot riding on all of the big 2011/2012 superhero releases for the genre as a whole, for that matter. Will Green Lantern kick off a wider slate of DC superhero films from WB? Will the Spider-Man reboot be successful or drop off massively from the Raimi films? Will the box office for Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers (the last three Marvel Studios films released under the distribution deal with Paramount) lead Disney to treat Marvel Studios as a big budget A-class outfit or cut them down to less ambitious films with lower budgets?

[bgshw44]

To be honest, none of us would be seeing a Superman movie in 2012 if it weren't for this lawsuit. There is also a lot riding on Green Lantern, ie Flash and Wonder Woman among others. Hopefully Lantern will perform better with the general public than I think it will.

ah it is so hard to tell what will be successful these days when there isnt a huge built in fanbase. i dont think much seperates a movie from being awesome like a star trek type franchise for gl like they are looking for, or just being so so with the audiences.

thank god for the lawsuit! it could be a blessing in disguise though, maybe we have the right creative team in place with nolan and co that would have otherwise not have been given the oppertunity. i fully support nolan and co until they give me a reason not to, and with bb, prestige, tdk, inception, i like the way things are shaping up! i cant wait to go see batman 3 summer 2012 and get to see a superman trailer with it!

[GreenKToo]

To be honest, none of us would be seeing a Superman movie in 2012 if it weren't for this lawsuit. There is also a lot riding on Green Lantern, ie Flash and Wonder Woman among others. Hopefully Lantern will perform better with the general public than I think it will.
I agree. if it ( the lawsuit) hadn't of happened, then nothing would have made them make a Superman film for years imo. It was a blessing.
As for GL, I havent been following it, i've saw the suit and know who the cast is, and thats about all I know.

[GreenKToo]

I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I cant help but wonder if WB is getting it into production just to avoid a lawsuit and will take they're sweet time in making it.
If I'm not mistaken, the ruling said it had to be in production by ''so and so'' date, it said nothing about when it had to be released.
I'm not saying they're doing that, i'm just wondering if they would.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The movie has to be released before January 2013.

[\S/uperman]

They better make the next one epic cause knowing the WB they might give up on a sequel again :eek:

[GreenKToo]

I just want one good superman film with none of the ''we're setting it up for the sequel to have epic action'' talk. I hate it when film makers say stuff like that.
Have the epic action in THIS film please.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think Warner Brothers has their best intentions for this one. There wouldn't be a Green Lantern movie unless they were fully interested into unleashing their biggest DC heroes onto the screen.

[Anita18]

WB really need to learn how to market their DC films though. I mean they're already got the cast, director, Teaser, everything together for Avengers over at Marvel & that movie is also 2 years away. It may seem pointless but it's smart marketing. It's getting it out there. WB are useless turds. They made GL look bad by having almost nothing to offer & letting Marvel take the spotlight. It's pathetic. Sometimes I wish Marvel had created Superman, he'd be in better hands.

Steve
Just like TDK had terrible, terrible marketing, leading to a lackluster opening weekend. :dry: Oh wait...

(And don't give me the Ledger factor. None of the trailers or TV spots for TDK billed ANY of the actors, and Ledger's real last movie didn't do so hot at the box office even though he was billed directly.)

Just because they don't cater to the hardcore fans first, doesn't mean that they aren't doing marketing. IM's hype first started at Comic Con, but it doesn't HAVE to be that way. It's just the way Marvel chose to do it.

The problem is, fans don't matter. So it doesn't matter what the fans think. The general public is who you have to charm. The Batman fans would like to think they made The Dark Knight what it was, but it was the general public. General public = money. The fans will always show up for their character.
Exactly.

My friend went to the Snakes on a Plane panel at SDCC and it was standing room only. How far did that get it?

[Man of Tomorrow]

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/07/rumor-david-s-goyer-wonder-woman-film.html

If true, it could leave Jonah as the sole candidate for Superman (if that other report is true as well).

I'd be cool with this.

Goyer directing Wonder Woman.

A mediocre director for a mediocre superhero.

As long as he doesn't direct Superman.

[GinsterHead]

I think Warner Brothers has their best intentions for this one. There wouldn't be a Green Lantern movie unless they were fully interested into unleashing their biggest DC heroes onto the screen.

Exactly. Or, on the other hand, they still would've made it, but theyd've cast Jack Black as Hal Jordan and have him catching burglars with giant green condoms.

Oh, wait...

[Excel]

To be honest, none of us would be seeing a Superman movie in 2012 if it weren't for this lawsuit. There is also a lot riding on Green Lantern, ie Flash and Wonder Woman among others. Hopefully Lantern will perform better with the general public than I think it will.

Lantern should do well. The scrip is great, Reynolds has the all makings of a an action star, and most importantly, Martin Campbell knows what hes doing. I see 70/200+.

[GL's Light]

From Deadline Hollywood:

Based on the calendar year, Warner Bros has crossed the $1 billion mark this weekend at the domestic box for an industry record of 10 years in a row.
Imagine what they could make if they knew anything about marketing!

[antsman41]

I just want one good superman film with none of the ''we're setting it up for the sequel to have epic action'' talk. I hate it when film makers say stuff like that.
Have the epic action in THIS film please.

Good thing, Nolan likes to make individual films...

[GreenKToo]

Good thing, Nolan likes to make individual films...
yup, too bad chris isnt directing.

[antsman41]

yup, too bad chris isnt directing.

Yeah but he already said that he is going to rule this franchise like Batman's.

One film at a time...

[Dark Knight]

Meh,

Marvel loves shooting their wads at the SDCC.....LOL

What they do at SDCC means nothing really, especially since most of their films have sucked anyway.

[DanSupKP37]

This has me worried..

Nolan helps brother get 'Superman' movie

http://sify.com/news/nolan-helps-brother-get-superman-movie-news-international-kh0hkehbcdc.html

We'll see if he is directing but John Nolan has never directed a thing.. And he is only really involved in Chris's projects..

I'd think WB would want a more experienced director in the chair..

[Man of Tomorrow]

http://sify.com/news/nolan-helps-brother-get-superman-movie-news-international-kh0hkehbcdc.html




What the hell kind of source is that?

[romeogbs19]

Meh,

Marvel loves shooting their wads at the SDCC.....LOL

What they do at SDCC means nothing really, especially since most of their films have sucked anyway.

Agreed -- though Iron Man (haven't seen the 2nd yet) truly was an impressive film from Marvel's newly bred internal production team. Never saw Norton's Hulk but critically, it seemed to be on-par with Iron Man.

While I agree that Marvel's films have been hit-or-miss, those that have been developed under Marvel (Iron Man, Hulk, Iron Man 2) have been generally well-received and well-made films. I presume that so long as Marvel continues to do this, their films will be generally solid quality. Of course, how the Disney factor plays out will be interesting.

That, and the fact that Ghost Rider, FF and X-Men are still with Fox and Spider-Man with Sony means until the licenses revert, it's quite possible Marvel will be associated with lackluster films, too.

I disagree on the Marvel vs. DC position. I do think Marvel has done a much better job establishing their characters. DC has pretty much relied on Batman the last two decades since Superman IV. Marvel has at least put out a lot of its creations on the big screen, and while not always successful, its characters and brand are more synonymous with the GA than any of DC's secondary characters. Hopefully, that'll start to change with Green Lantern.

For now, I think it's incorrect to think that the WB doesn't need to play catch-up. It does. Avengers has a solid director in Whedon and I don't doubt Captain America will do pretty well when it hits next year. Not sure about Thor, though. Regardless, the good news is that the WB has arguably more hype power left in Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash and Batman 3 and the potential for Justice League.

If the WB plays its cards right and casts the right people and lets DC's core teams keep at least some oversight, then it should be able to compete quite handedly as the superhero film wars begin in 2012.

[GreenKToo]

Thats the big ? tho, will WB actually follow through. We've heard this over and over from them in the past. (yes, I know, a new person is running DC film division now)
Honestly, I think they will see how well GL does before deciding to proceed on flash and WW. If GL doesnt do well, then it will be back to the same ole same ole IMVHO.

[GL's Light]

What's going to be interesting to see is how Marvel and Disney operate together, especially as more Marvel film properties that were licensed to a number of different studios start to coalesce under the Disney/Marvel banner. How many Marvel films will Disney want to bankroll on an annual basis? Marvel is heading for the same situation that DC is in, where almost all of its properties (with a few major exceptions) will be controlled by one studio and it'll be answerable to and dependent on a corporate chain of command extending above it.

[treeringralph]

What the hell kind of source is that?

A rumor rehash "source." You know, crap like that, WE could be sources for sites like that.

[romeogbs19]

Thats the big ? tho, will WB actually follow through. We've heard this over and over from them in the past. (yes, I know, a new person is running DC film division now)
Honestly, I think they will see how well GL does before deciding to proceed on flash and WW. If GL doesnt do well, then it will be back to the same ole same ole IMVHO.

100% agree with you, GreenKToo. I think if GL flops, it could be the end of Justice League talk for a while, or at least the end of WW and Flash. Then again, I could see the WB still doing a JL flick but passing on the lesser known characters for a while.

[GreenKToo]

actions speak louder than words..I'm not gonna believe anything much until I see some proof.

[solidsnake86]

I think its only common sense that they're going to see how green lantern does before moving ahead with other projects, they are a business at the end of the day. What happens if thor and captain america fail, sure you're going to see the avengers but thats probably the last time you'll see anything from those characters in a while. People are praising marvels plan and how they blew dc out of the water at comic con but at the end of the day they need good movies that make bank. Iron Man 2 is already showing cracks in they're plan.

When you really take things into perspective dc is going to have green lantern, batman and superman within the next 2 years. I would say thats pretty good. If GL does well we'll be looking at flash and green lantern 2, maybe even wonder woman for 2013. Everyone just likes to blow things out of proportion.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think its only common sense that they're going to see how green lantern does before moving ahead with other projects, they are a business at the end of the day. What happens if thor and captain america fail, sure you're going to see the avengers but thats probably the last time you'll see anything from those characters in a while. People are praising marvels plan and how they blew dc out of the water at comic con but at the end of the day they need good movies that make bank. Iron Man 2 is already showing cracks in they're plan.

When you really take things into perspective dc is going to have green lantern, batman and superman within the next 2 years. I would say thats pretty good. If GL does well we'll be looking at flash and green lantern 2, maybe even wonder woman for 2013. Everyone just likes to blow things out of proportion.Fantastic post. Personally I think that Marvel's plan is going to blow up in their faces. Two many comicbook movies are being made and the market will reject the mediocre ones even more as this trend continues. Captain America has a mediocre director and although I hope not I don't see Captain America becoming a good film unless he steps out of his comfort zone. Thor is a very iffy project because of the norse myth thing. It's very risky. I just think that one of these movies is going to greatly underperform and then the Avengers will only be about two heros that people dug and other ones that didn't hit.

I'm glad the WB is not just setting up and releasing movie after movie. Although I don't care for WB's plan either. They seem to only want to focus on Batman and Superman to an unhealthy degree. I'd like a Flash or Wonderwoman movie before another Superman film. Then again they are only making this Superman film because they have to.

[ALP]

WB/DC focus on what will make the most cash.

Marvel took a chance with the Iron Man franchise and it ended up being a big hit. I honestly can't see Flash doing as well. Green Lantern maybe. I feel Wonder Woman might also be a little out of the times for the average audience.

[The Executioner]

Fantastic post. Personally I think that Marvel's plan is going to blow up in their faces. Two many comicbook movies are being made and the market will reject the mediocre ones even more as this trend continues. Captain America has a mediocre director and although I hope not I don't see Captain America becoming a good film unless he steps out of his comfort zone. Thor is a very iffy project because of the norse myth thing. It's very risky. I just think that one of these movies is going to greatly underperform and then the Avengers will only be about two heros that people dug and other ones that didn't hit.

I'm glad the WB is just setting up and releasing movie after movie. Although I don't care for WB's plan either. They seem to only want to focus on Batman and Superman to an unhealthy degree. I'd like a Flash or Wonderwoman movie before another Superman film. Then again they are only making this Superman film because they have to.

I do not see a problem with their being alot of comic book movies...like the 1970s when it was alot of blaxploitation films....as long as comi book films are good its all good...I love it.

[akfj]

I do not see a problem with their being alot of comic book movies...like the 1970s when it was alot of blaxploitation films....as long as comi book films are good its all good...I love it.

But, what happened after the 1970s for those films? People can get burned out if you give them too much of something within a short amount of time. And we're talking about the fickle general audience here that makes these movies successes, not comic book fans who would welcome more of these movies but are only a fraction of the audience.

[solidsnake86]

Fantastic post. Personally I think that Marvel's plan is going to blow up in their faces. Two many comicbook movies are being made and the market will reject the mediocre ones even more as this trend continues. Captain America has a mediocre director and although I hope not I don't see Captain America becoming a good film unless he steps out of his comfort zone. Thor is a very iffy project because of the norse myth thing. It's very risky. I just think that one of these movies is going to greatly underperform and then the Avengers will only be about two heros that people dug and other ones that didn't hit.



I mean just look at Iron Man 2, by having that movie serve the avengers plot line they really missed a great opportunity to set up a third Iron Man film by having the mandarin as the underlying threat, not to mention they rushed it out in order to stay on track with there plans. It seems like every fan just wants to see avengers and justice league, which all the power to them, but I would rather see great individual films because the characters themselves are so rich that they need there own film.

I hope these films are successful because unfortunately the General Audience probably doesn't even know the difference between the two companies and they all fall under comic book films. Start stringing together a bunch of mediocre to bad films and it starts tainting the genre.

[GreenKToo]

I don't think it matters if its a CB film or not as long as its good. A good film is a good film.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

don't know if this has been posted, so forgive me if so... BUT

POSSIBLE DIRECTOR/ ACTOR ANNOUNCED?


GeekTyrant.com are reporting that an inside source on the Warner Bros. lot has told them that Christopher Nolan's brother Jonathan is the unannounced director for the new Superman movie.

The report goes on to claim that actor Zachary Levi of NBC's TV show "Chuck" has auditioned for the film but not necessarily for the lead role.

The Jonathan Nolan news goes back to a a rumor first reported in February and this could be just another story playing off of that initial report.

Also, one would assume that Warner Bros. would not give a first time director the reigns of such a huge project estimated at a budget of $150 - $200 million dollars. However, if his brother is there to help guide him along then the studio might would let him take on the project.

As for the Zachary Levi news, this sounds like nothing more than a typical fanboy rumor designed to get everyone excited and then be debunked within 24 hours just like the Chris Columbus as director rumor was. The fact that former "Superman Returns "star Brandon Routh co-stars with Levi on "Chuck" makes this news all the more hard to believe.

Keep in mind though that neither of these rumors have yet to be confirmed or debunked at this point. However, they should still be taken with a grain of salt which is always the case with reports such as these.

Stay tuned to the Superman Super Site for updates as this story develops.

[The Executioner]

Zachary Levi can be more of a Jimmy Olsen type character then Clark Kent/Superman.

[GreenKToo]

yup, it's old news..you'll have to be really fast to beat some of the posters around here to the punch lol.

[Dark Knight]

Agreed -- though Iron Man (haven't seen the 2nd yet) truly was an impressive film from Marvel's newly bred internal production team. Never saw Norton's Hulk but critically, it seemed to be on-par with Iron Man.

While I agree that Marvel's films have been hit-or-miss, those that have been developed under Marvel (Iron Man, Hulk, Iron Man 2) have been generally well-received and well-made films. I presume that so long as Marvel continues to do this, their films will be generally solid quality. Of course, how the Disney factor plays out will be interesting.

That, and the fact that Ghost Rider, FF and X-Men are still with Fox and Spider-Man with Sony means until the licenses revert, it's quite possible Marvel will be associated with lackluster films, too.

I disagree on the Marvel vs. DC position. I do think Marvel has done a much better job establishing their characters. DC has pretty much relied on Batman the last two decades since Superman IV. Marvel has at least put out a lot of its creations on the big screen, and while not always successful, its characters and brand are more synonymous with the GA than any of DC's secondary characters. Hopefully, that'll start to change with Green Lantern.

For now, I think it's incorrect to think that the WB doesn't need to play catch-up. It does. Avengers has a solid director in Whedon and I don't doubt Captain America will do pretty well when it hits next year. Not sure about Thor, though. Regardless, the good news is that the WB has arguably more hype power left in Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash and Batman 3 and the potential for Justice League.

If the WB plays its cards right and casts the right people and lets DC's core teams keep at least some oversight, then it should be able to compete quite handedly as the superhero film wars begin in 2012.







Nah....as I have said many times before....Cap will NOT do well overseas, because of the despising of America attitude thing coming from foreign countries. Plus, Joe Johnston is just NOT a very good director IMO.

Thor has the whole Norse God thing working against it and is just not a very popular character overall to the general public.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ That's why I think that GL will be the bigger of the three. He's a more popular character and the sci-fi aspect gives him much wider appeal.

In the end all I hope is that they're all good and they all do well.

As for Joe Johnston, he did Rocketeer. For that I'll always like him. :yay:

[Comicfan]

^ That's why I think that GL will be the bigger of the three. He's a more popular character and the sci-fi aspect gives him much wider appeal.

In the end all I hope is that they're all good and they all do well.

As for Joe Johnston, he did Rocketeer. For that I'll always like him. :yay:

Plus, GL is sexier (or so have told me my girlfriend and my sister)... maybe its the jewelry :p

[bgshw44]

"Who will be the new Superman?"[/I]
With plans set for a December 2012 release, we've heard different names out in the open ranging from Chuck star Zachary Levi in the "Rumor Mill" department to True Blood actor Joe Manganiello publicly campaigning for the role. But who do the studios (in this case, Warner Brothers and Legendary Pictures) have their eye on for mild-mannered Clark Kent and his red-and-blue suit wearing alter ego, or is it the other way around?
Sources tell TMT (http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/) one such actor being "seriously considered" is Mad Men star Jon Hamm.
At thirty-nine (He'd be past forty when The Man of Steel opens), he's certainly older than who's regularly looked at for these franchises. Then again, look at Robert Downey Jr. He's starring in the Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes films (and then there's Avengers) and he's a few years older. Not to mention, Hamm happens to have been a fan-favorite for Kal-El for years now. Something that was suggested to him directly by Music Television (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/02/24/jon-hamm-responds-to-fans-campaigning-for-him-to-play-a-superhero/) and it wasn't like he immediately dismissed the notion.
Before anyone starts nerdgasming, keep in mind no deal is in place and there's no indication Hamm and/or his representation has met with WB, Legendary or the Nolan crew. He's one of several names being thrown around the Burbank offices to headline the new Superman franchise. But it gives you an idea of what direction they're looking at.

I am surprised no one is talking about jamies's article on TMT

[Dark Knight]

I am surprised no one is talking about jamies's article on TMT




I don't think that Joe guy is going to get it.

He has a weird beak nose and I don't think he has the acting range the Nolans will want.

[Showtime]

I believe they were in the casting thread.

[bgshw44]

I believe they were in the casting thread.

sorry show!

[\S/uperman]

I am surprised no one is talking about jamies's article on TMT
Probably cause we figured out Hamm was the choice from Clint of moviehole and we've been discussing it for a week now. Kinda old news.

[Showtime]

Not really "old news" since it was never reported on any site.

[\S/uperman]

Not really "old news" since it was never reported on any site.
Old news to us nerds then :D When we discuss news and a week later see an article about it, kind of makes it less interesting I guess.

[Showtime]

Well JCDC, you are certainly hard to impress then.

[\S/uperman]

Who?

[\S/uperman]

Seen his posts but not the dude. Check my ip :rolleyes:

[Showtime]

Good luck with all that.

[\S/uperman]

Good luck with all that.

Ok. :confused:

Everytime there is a new poster on the boards they are accused of being someone. Whatevuh, like I said you can do IP check I don't care.

Didn't know you were so defensive of your partner sheesh.

[Showtime]

Ok. :confused:

Everytime there is a new poster on the boards they are accused of being someone. Whatevuh, like I said you can do IP check I don't care.

Didn't know you were so defensive of your partner sheesh.

:hehe:

[\S/uperman]

Very funny :p Trying to give me an alias. I can barely keep up with being me. LOL

[Crook]

Not sure if that is the case, I guess in is on a case by case basis.

I mean fans loved the new version of "Hulk" but the general public cared just as much about as they did Ang's.

"Watchmen", fans loved it. The general public, not as much.
This wasn't the phenomena I described. In fact it's the complete opposite. :huh:

Comic book films that have been panned by the fanboy community are rarely ever successes with the mainstream. If at all.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Glad to have you back JC.

[\S/uperman]

Oh God what did Showtime start

[Showtime]

\S/JCDCuperman

That post has nothing to do with this thread, keep it up.

[\S/uperman]

I thought it did apply here.

I assumed you thought I was the dude who made that comment on TMT (so that is why I posted the TMT article in this thread). It was not me and I just wanted to point it out :o You were publicly calling me an alias name, yet I can't publicly respond?

[Abraham]

drama

[Abraham]

I hope we get a press release that completely confirms this is the direction the film is taking and this is the kind of film that everyone involved hopes to make, including, the then signed, director.

"This Superman is neither a reboot or a sequel. It's just a Superman film. The basic elements of the storyline are: BIG action, BIG set-pieces, witty dialogue, playful romance, a light-hearted feelgood mood juxtaposed with derring-do and danger, top-notch cast, epic feel, sci-fi background BUT with some sort of huge twist on the legend."


"I can tell you that Goyer's story involves Luthor and Brainiac. It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry. I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet. And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology."


http://www.originalalamo.com/images/supermanfleischer.jpg

[\S/uperman]

drama


Started by a mod :hehe:

[Showtime]

I thought it did apply here.

I assumed you thought I was the dude who made that comment on TMT (so that is why I posted the TMT article in this thread). It was not me and I just wanted to point it out :o You were publicly calling me an alias name, yet I can't publicly respond?

What does comments on TMT have to do with anything that is happening here? I wouldn't keep making a big deal out of this, you're fighting a losing battle.

[Showtime]

Started by a mod :hehe:

Not so much, but I would get things back on track now. Not a suggestion.

[\S/uperman]

What does comments on TMT have to do with anything that is happening here? I wouldn't keep making a big deal out of this, you're fighting a losing battle.
I'm not fighting any battle. :confused:

I just thought your suggestion was based on that post over there, and I wanted to point out to you I didn't make a post that extreme.

No worries, I'm having fun not starting trouble :up: If it goes too far from someone else, I just didn't want you to think I had something to do with it.

[Showtime]

I didn't think you did, nor do I really care.

If somebody is slow enough to keep giving us hit counts even if they hate the site, then I think that is absolutely hilarious.

Now back on topic.

[\S/uperman]

Not so much, but I would get things back on track now. Not a suggestion.

NP

That was like soap opera meets Jerry Springer :p

heh heh

[\S/uperman]

I didn't think you did, nor do I really care.

If somebody is slow enough to keep giving us hit counts even if they hate the site, then I think that is absolutely hilarious.

Now back on topic.

I see, thought you assumed it was me. Cool then :up:

[\S/uperman]

Hey Showtime you should put up a MB on TMT :up: Dunno if you could moderate over here and there, but might be fun.

[GL's Light]

Comic book films that have been panned by the fanboy community are rarely ever successes with the mainstream. If at all.
Fantastic Four was widely panned by the fanboy community, but was a mainstream hit.

[Comicfan]

Fantastic Four was widely panned by the fanboy community, but was a mainstream hit.

Something similar could be said about X-men 3 and Spider-man 3

[maenalus]

http://www.originalalamo.com/images/supermanfleischer.jpg



What a great picture!:applaud:applaud:applaud:applaud :applaud:applaud:applaud

Fleischer is the best. Superman's powers and the way the action is played, it's just right. Hopefully that's what Nolan/Goyer will bring to this movie.

[Young Superman]

The words "huge Kryptonian mythology." make me a little nervous. It makes me think we are gonna end up seeing Zod or Kara before too long.

[GreenKToo]

I really hope we dont get a bunch of other kryptonians running around. I'd like for Brainiac to be the only other one, and he's just an android/supercomputer.

[Ipodman]

I was hoping Luthor wont be in yet another Superman movie. But I bet Nolan will squeeze him in, dont you think so?

[Original Spawn]

From what Nolan said this is not going to be a sequel nor a reboot, it´s only a new story of the man of steel, the villains are going to be Lex Luthor and Brainiac.
HnMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I think that the information is good and this movie has much potential.
It would be cool if they made it part of the smallville universe but i doubt that.

[GreenKToo]

IF this Lex is the Lex-corp Lex, ie, rich, brilliant, non goofy, ruthless, then I wouldnt have a problem with him.
I still want Brainiac as the main villain tho.

[Ipodman]

Certainly put Braniac as the main villain....

[Young Superman]

I really hope we dont get a bunch of other kryptonians running around. I'd like for Brainiac to be the only other one, and he's just an android/supercomputer.

Agreed

[GreenKToo]

And who knows. the twist could involve Lex and Brainiac somehow. Maybe through Brainiac is how Lex unknowingly got his fortune and created lex-corp.
For instance, what if Lex, when he was younger, worked on a private gov team that investigated UFo sightings/crash sites. While investigating one reported crash site, Lex found some alien tech that actually belonged to Brainiac, or a Brainiac drone.
Lex secretly pockets the small object and cracks its secrets later when he is alone. Once he figures it out, bam, enter Lex-corp, because he will start inventing all sorts of new technologies, ie, medicines, weapons, fuel supplies, etc etc. the money pours in like water over a waterfall.

Lex gets power hungry, jealous of Superman, and the rivalry begins..it last years.

Thats when Brainiac arrives looking for the lost drone. since the tech from it is virtually embedded into our society by then, Brainiac proceeds to dismantle modern civilization.

I don't know, just pondering.

[maenalus]

The words "huge Kryptonian mythology." make me a little nervous. It makes me think we are gonna end up seeing Zod or Kara before too long.

The idea of this being a Krypton-centric movie leaves me underwhelmed as well.

[The Executioner]

Whats wrong with Zod and Kara?

[The Executioner]

I hope we get a press release that completely confirms this is the direction the film is taking and this is the kind of film that everyone involved hopes to make, including, the then signed, director.





http://www.originalalamo.com/images/supermanfleischer.jpg



We need this Superman on film? 1940s era Superman on big screen.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think Lex Luthor has become a character that's almost too big to be left out. He's not just some guy who wants to take Superman down a peg, he's a prominent figure in Metropolis. He doesn't need to be the feature attraction villain or the mastermind behind the whole diabolical plot. A few scenes scattered through the movie really wouldn't hurt it.

If Brainiac were to touch down in Metropolis, Luthor would be all over him. He already has one alien causing him enough problems and stress, he doesn't need another. Leaving out Luthor would be like leaving out Jim Gordon in a Batman movie. Sure, he doesn't have to be there, but it would feel a little empty without him.

[solidsnake86]

Luthor's always a presence in metropolis and if they're going the corporate luthor route then he has to be in the film. Going by Latino Review if brainiac is in the first film along with luthor, brainiac will be the main villain in terms of providing the action (think his robots that superman can actually let loose on for once and brainiac himself). Luthor provides a different angle in that he can be more a set up character for future films. I think its no coincidence that metallo and parasite's origins were heavily intergrated with lex luthor recently in secret origins. That could set up an amazing sequel. At the same time though this is a last effort with superman and they really have no choice but to have brainiac because they can't use the "save it for the sequel" mentality.

[Blackman]

Luthor always should be the background villain

[Abraham]

Yeah. People who want him completely left out confused me. I like the idea of Luthor as a background villain, a CEO - blofeld type.

[Young Superman]

Whats wrong with Zod and Kara?

IMO Kal-El isn't that unique in the universe with a bunch of other kryptonians flying around.

[rob-el2]

I've always wanted a Superman movie structured after Godfather 2. You would have an established Superman with flash backs to Krypton and Jor-el. They could be fighting the same enemy - Braniac - with the version on Krypton not as advanced as the one Supes would encounter as Braniac has gained new technologies over time. Luthor would play a background figure just like the Council on Krypton. The scenes on Krypton while not in B&W could be filmed in a different way (monchromeish greens or whatever) than the ones with Supes. Lois and Lara would play similar but distinctive rolls as they help out the man they love. And at the end of the Krypton scenes you would see the ship carring Kal-el leave and the planet explodes. The final scenes though would have Supes defeating the entity that his father couldn't.

[Kal-El Fan]

I really hope we dont get a bunch of other kryptonians running around. I'd like for Brainiac to be the only other one, and he's just an android/supercomputer.
I like Kara, I wouldn't mind her showing up and then maybe spinning off into her own franchise (done right this time). I'd want the (original) modern origin though, where Argo did not survive, she's just been drifting through space forever.
Zod and the Phantom Zone villains would be fine, but as a one-off and later down the line. A Kryptonian Brainiac would be fine, but the Coluan version works just as well if not better.
That should be the extent of any surviving Kryptonians and there is obviously no room in the films for the Daximites in the Superman films.

Maybe you can have a passing reference to Mon-El (better suited for a Legion film really) and maybe you can have Soddam Yat over in the GL films but that's about it.

[GreenKToo]

Thats way too many kryptonians for me. For me, it takes away from the mystique of Superman if you have other supermen/women running around everywhere. I'll give you Zod, but thats it for my tastes.

[Comicfan]

Thats way too many kryptonians for me. For me, it takes away from the mystique of Superman if you have other supermen/women running around everywhere. I'll give you Zod, but thats it for my tastes.

I like it more when Superman it truly the last son of Krypton

[Young Superman]

I like it more when Superman it truly the last son of Krypton

Me too.

[maenalus]

Thats way too many kryptonians for me. For me, it takes away from the mystique of Superman if you have other supermen/women running around everywhere. I'll give you Zod, but thats it for my tastes.

Zod the only one I have any interest in as well. But, since he's not that great a character, and Stamp already made him as cool as possible, I don't want to see him in any movie any time soon.

And I know I wont.:up:

[matrix_ghost]

Whats wrong with Zod and Kara?

There is an oppurtunity to really give the other vilain of the superman universer a chance to shine. Why go back to the Donner movies ?

[GreenKToo]

I'm backtracking a little, but Let me add another, i'd take a kryptonian Doomsday.
I forgot about him when I said I'd prefer no other kryptonians besides Supes and Zod.

[dark_b]

wouldnt is be great if the final fight with superman and the villain would be in the city and looked like this ?

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/28/more-videos-and-photos-from-the-chicago-set-of-transformers-3/

[GreenKToo]

wouldnt is be great if the final fight with superman and the villain would be in the city and looked like this ?

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/07/28/more-videos-and-photos-from-the-chicago-set-of-transformers-3/
Yup. I wanna see this...

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4416/armageddon2.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/armageddon2.jpg/)

this.....

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2118/111cloverfield2ac1xj9.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/111cloverfield2ac1xj9.jpg/)

and this....

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/425/helliscomingtotown.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/helliscomingtotown.jpg/)

[DCW]

^ Yes please!

[BH/HHH]

Me too.


Me three

[Excel]

So when is the script leaking?

[JackMercy]

So when is the script leaking?

Next Tuesday.

:supes:

[smooth3006]

Next Tuesday.

:supes:


there is a date for the script leak?

[Alonsovich]

So when is the script leaking?

When I finish typing it up...:o

[maenalus]

I'm not sure I want this to go disaster flick. Throwing all that destruction at the viewer is just desensitizing and makes it harder to appreciate actually tangible action and violence.

[Octoberist]

THERE has to be a build up to it. It doesn't have to be super big. Look at Jurrasic Park and it's leadup to the T-Rex escape. EPIC.

Tension. Sense of danger. Drama.

[Excel]

There is no date for a script leak; however WB leaked the GL and BB scripts to garner fan support (atleast I think that is what happened...). I think doing so with this would be a marvelous idea :cwink:

When I finish typing it up...:o

Hurry up please. :o

[Webhead2006]

Yea we need to have a great opening weekend for this film. Hopefully there will not be any other big films coming out before, the same weekend, and at least a few weeks after. Then if the film is good we should get some good WOM and hopefully make alot of money fast. Break 100mill dom within first 2 weeks of release. Then have good legs to last at least 2-3 months well in the theaters.

Now as for jonah i said it before i do expect him now to likely be our director. Since his name keeps coming up. IF he is announced i hope he can deliever on the goods we want out of the film. Though who knows what could happen. If he was announced for all we know he could end up starting things up. Then wb finds a different director they want and it could end up like the whole campbell/berlanti gl deal.

As for if the film does end up having an established superman. I still hope it will touch upon origin stuff. Like some flashs to krypton. To some of his teen life back in smallville. Then at least see why he became superman, formed the look/persona. Then also at least see how he joined the daily planet and all that. If we just start in the middle of the book like SR did. I would think it would be a BIG mistake again. We should have some origin stuff, what ever they are able to use. So we can see why this world/this superman is different then the others before him.

[BH/HHH]

I at least hope theres some script reviews at some point, a script leak is not needed but reviews would be good.

[Comicfan]

Yup. I wanna see this...

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4416/armageddon2.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/armageddon2.jpg/)

this.....

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2118/111cloverfield2ac1xj9.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/111cloverfield2ac1xj9.jpg/)

and this....

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/425/helliscomingtotown.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/helliscomingtotown.jpg/)
In a real world scenario were Superman was real, I would move out of Metropolis in a heartbeat when things like that seem to happen every two weeks :p

[Webhead2006]

city wide destruction would be epic to see in a supes film.

[GreenKToo]

In a real world scenario were Superman was real, I would move out of Metropolis in a heartbeat when things like that seem to happen every two weeks :p
Lol, yup. I'd head for the hills. screw Metropolis.:yay:

[DorkyFresh]

I like it more when Superman it truly the last son of Krypton
while the notion of Superman being the ONLY Kryptonian in the universe DOES appeal to me, when i think of it logically, it doesn't make sense. Kryptonians are supposed to be much more advanced (physically, mentally, and technologically) than we are. this means that they've undoubtedly mastered space travel by the time Krypton is destroyed. that also means that there is bound to be a few stragglers left behind because of that.

now i fully agree with the notion that Superman should be 'the Last Son of Krypton' in the sense that he's the youngest one to survive Krypton's destruction, hence when all other Kryptonians die he will be the only one left.....but i just can't bring myself to believe that he would be THE ONLY Kryptonian left, seeing as how there would HAVE to be other Kryptonian space travelers if am to believe that they are technically superior to us.

[Kal-El Fan]

while the notion of Superman being the ONLY Kryptonian in the universe DOES appeal to me, when i think of it logically, it doesn't make sense. Kryptonians are supposed to be much more advanced (physically, mentally, and technologically) than we are. this means that they've undoubtedly mastered space travel by the time Krypton is destroyed. that also means that there is bound to be a few stragglers left behind because of that.

now i fully agree with the notion that Superman should be 'the Last Son of Krypton' in the sense that he's the youngest one to survive Krypton's destruction, hence when all other Kryptonians die he will be the only one left.....but i just can't bring myself to believe that he would be THE ONLY Kryptonian left, seeing as how there would HAVE to be other Kryptonian space travelers if am to believe that they are technically superior to us.
I agree with this and it's often a dangling plot thread. Byrne did a decent job of explaining why there are not "Krypto-naughts" out there, but in most instances it's just not addressed.
If we ignore that though, I feel that Kal is ALWAYS the Last Son of Krypton for the reasons you mention. Even if Kara is younger than he is, she's the last DAUGHTER of Krypton. The term still applies.
Also it makes sense for the PZ villains to have survived Krypton's destruction, since they were in the PZ. In the comics, I'd like to limit it to the PZ'ers, Supergirl, Krypto and Doomsday. The Kandorians were better when they were in the bottle, IMO.
In the films, I'd have the same limit, only I'd probably leave Krypto out completely. I agree that we've already seen Zod & Co, so no reason to bring them back now. I think Supergirl deserves another chance, and Doomsday's chance for a live action film has probably passed for awhile, depending on the direction of the reboot.

[kalelkilla]

I'd like Superman to be the Last Son of Krypton, unless that is how they are going to explain the main physical villain or villains. It would be a good plot point to have Superman try and befriend someone/thing that is from his own planet or from another planet, and then be betrayed and have Superman fight them off, proving to humans that he puts protecting earth/humans above all else. Maybe even have Superman "destroy" the closest living thing to Krypton he knows but at the same time save earth. Could be a good bitter sweet ending...having Superman destroy all connections to Krypton but embracing all of his connections to earth.

[Dark Knight]

LOVE hearing this news below IF true regarding the Nolans' casting process for Superman. Going with established and experienced actors is the way to go!

http://www.dcwarnerbros.com/exclusives.html

Only thing I don't like hearing is that Cavill will NOT be considered for the role, but I LOVE hearing Jim Caviezel will be considered for the role of Supes!

Yeah baby! I hope they consider Hugh Jackman also!

Glad Routh will be given a fair shot with a screentest as well.

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's fake.

[Man of Tomorrow]

This seems very odd.


I don't buy it.

[Young Superman]

Glad Routh will be given a fair shot with a screentest as well.

Me too.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Don't believe it yet.

[Anita18]

It's fake.
I was just thinking how the URL seemed legit (going by just the name) and my workplace has blocked it for "Potentially Damaging Content." :lmao:

[GreenKToo]

yup, there is no way that someone here wouldnt have found the top write up before now, the one DATED 7-23.

[Dark Knight]

I was just thinking how the URL seemed legit (going by just the name) and my workplace has blocked it for "Potentially Damaging Content." :lmao:




IF it's real....it would be great news.

[Showtime]

That website looks like it was made using AOL 95 technology.

[GreenKToo]

lol. somebody got tired of waiting on some news and created their own.

[Dark Knight]

What is real and what is fake?

What is a dream and what is reality?

We shall see.....LOL

[GreenKToo]

i'll have whatever he's having....lol

[Showtime]

I think that Sam Huntington made that site.

[GreenKToo]

Desperate times calls for desperate measures lol

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think that Sam Huntington made that site.

Are you joking? :dry:

[General Vulcun]

Who's Sam Huntington?

[Asgard]

Lol, he played Jimmy on SR.

[C. Lee]

Who's Sam Huntington?

The actor who played Jimmy Olsen in Superman Returns....you know, the movie that we are discussing the sequel/reboot of.

[General Vulcun]

The actor who played Jimmy Olsen in Superman Returns....you know, the movie that we are discussing the sequel/reboot of.

I mustn't have cared enough about the actor to learn his name, then. :word:

[Showtime]

Yep. I am kidding.

[kalelkilla]

Is it fair to say noone has a frickin' clue as to who the Nolan's and Co. are going to cast for Superman? Nolan has been pretty coy about the project but the one thing he has been upfront about is that Superman is going to be an unknown. There is going to be a huge casting process I'm sure, but Hamm does seem like the type of actor they would like to work with. I don't see them casting a Joe Manginello type. But who knows.

[GreenKToo]

Personally, I dont think it wil be a complete unknown ala routh this time. probably more on the lines of a hamm, trucco, or fox. Not A-listers, but not complete unknowns either.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'd say Hamm is pretty much in the A list now.

He's in the main Hollywood circles, won major awards for "Mad Men," hosted SNL, etc He's well known.

[GreenKToo]

You have TV stars that you can call A-listers, but what I mean by A-listers is actors/actresses that can headline and sell a film. Folks like Depp, Bale, decaprio, or bullock. Not that it matters, but I hardly knew who hamm was until folks started mentioning him for Supes.

[maenalus]

Hamm has a look and persona that would be very jarring in the costume.I do not get what people see in him as Superman.

[Chiroptera]

Christopher Nolan could pull superman off....i think....i hope :oldrazz:

[Sub-Zero]

i really hope that article is fake. i'm baffled at the idea that they are looking at actors in their very late 30s and 40s, who look that age, for superman. it just sounds like a cavill-hater made that to shut everyone up who thinks he should be supes.

[maenalus]

Of course it's fake, there's no question about that.

[romeogbs19]

I'd say Hamm is pretty much in the A list now.

He's in the main Hollywood circles, won major awards for "Mad Men," hosted SNL, etc He's well known.

He's well known but he's still an under-the-radar actor compared to the likes of a Patrick Demsey, Matthew Fox or an Alex Baldwin.

The fact that Hamm is exclusively cable TV and on a show that's not particularly family friendly means he's popular among the critics, but not necessarily mass audience.

I'd say he's at the Robert Downey, Jr stage, post-rehab, when he was well-known but not anywhere near being a household name.

I like the idea of bringing someone like that into the role. It only helps that Hamm is a great actor, who's basically carried "Mad Men" to where it's at right now. Add to that the potential he brings because he'd be a right yet also unusual casting decision (IOW, you could play him up on both sides of the coin).

Even if it's not Hamm, I'm hopeful the rumors that the Nolans are pushing for an older Superman are true. I'd love to see him don the suit. As I've posted in the casting thread, I think he's got the look, and I have no doubt he can muscle up easily.

And, I think he'd look great standing next to Bale, and leading the JL (should that happen); he'd also be much more convincing given his age, presence, and acting skills.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree, even if it isn't Hamm I am hoping for an older than 24 year old actor to get the role who is as talented as Hamm. Hamm is brillaint at comedy and drama.

[dark_b]

Hamm is in no way a known actor.

just cast him, hire some guy to direct this movie and lets get this baby realesed in 2012.

spiderman starts filming in december. i am happy that they are not rushing hte project. will save them a lot of money.

[GreenKToo]

He's well known but he's still an under-the-radar actor compared to the likes of a Patrick Demsey, Matthew Fox or an Alex Baldwin.

The fact that Hamm is exclusively cable TV and on a show that's not particularly family friendly means he's popular among the critics, but not necessarily mass audience.

I'd say he's at the Robert Downey, Jr stage, post-rehab, when he was well-known but not anywhere near being a household name.

I like the idea of bringing someone like that into the role. It only helps that Hamm is a great actor, who's basically carried "Mad Men" to where it's at right now. Add to that the potential he brings because he'd be a right yet also unusual casting decision (IOW, you could play him up on both sides of the coin).

Even if it's not Hamm, I'm hopeful the rumors that the Nolans are pushing for an older Superman are true. I'd love to see him don the suit. As I've posted in the casting thread, I think he's got the look, and I have no doubt he can muscle up easily.

And, I think he'd look great standing next to Bale, and leading the JL (should that happen); he'd also be much more convincing given his age, presence, and acting skills.
yes.

I agree, even if it isn't Hamm I am hoping for an older than 24 year old actor to get the role who is as talented as Hamm. Hamm is brillaint at comedy and drama.
yes.

Hamm is in no way a known actor.

just cast him, hire some guy to direct this movie and lets get this baby realesed in 2012.

spiderman starts filming in december. i am happy that they are not rushing hte project. will save them a lot of money.
and yes.

[\S/uperman]

Everyone is starting to believe Hamm is a done deal already. Is that just because time has passed and we haven't heard any official news :confused:

If there is better out there, don't be so quick to settle.

[DorkyFresh]

i honestly don't think they'd cast Superman without a director. imo, casting your lead without having a director is never a good move. sometimes the gamble pays off, but those are rare exceptions.

[\S/uperman]

i honestly don't think they'd cast Superman without a director. imo, casting your lead without having a director is never a good move. sometimes the gamble pays off, but those are rare exceptions.

People also think J. Nolan is already the director as well.

[Young Superman]

Please no Hamm for Superman. I think he'd be better suited for Bruce wayne or Frank Castle. NOT the ultimate symbol of Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

[Showtime]

i honestly don't think they'd cast Superman without a director. imo, casting your lead without having a director is never a good move. sometimes the gamble pays off, but those are rare exceptions.

WB/DC doesn't need a director to cast Superman, there are many projects that have actors attached to them before a director even comes in. The way of Hollywood.

[Showtime]

i really hope that article is fake. i'm baffled at the idea that they are looking at actors in their very late 30s and 40s, who look that age, for superman. it just sounds like a cavill-hater made that to shut everyone up who thinks he should be supes.

Of course it's fake, there's no question about that.

What article?

[GreenKToo]

I see your point, it ( GASP :shock ) disappeared lol.

[DorkyFresh]

People also think J. Nolan is already the director as well.
even though all signs point to this eventually coming to fruition i, personally, don't like to cement my opinion on speculation and always try to keep an open mind until official statements are released.

WB/DC doesn't need a director to cast Superman, there are many projects that have actors attached to them before a director even comes in. The way of Hollywood.
true, but when it comes to comic book films it's a rare occurrence and i can think of one particular case where it hindered the production (Ghost Rider). you're right...they don't NEED to sign a director for them to cast Superman, but i don't think it would be a smart move and they can't afford to gamble too much this time. btw, nice to see ya again, Show!

[\S/uperman]

I see your point, it ( GASP :shock ) disappeared lol.

edit: NM. It is still there.

Now new uh "info"


Superman Reboot- "Anamorphic"
Updated: 08/01
It looks like a cue will be taken from Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I'm told we should look for the film to be shot with anamorphic 35mm lenses, and for larger key sequences expect 65mm (IMAX format). While we expect more vibrant colors because it is a Superman film, it seems there will still be some stylistic similarities in terms of framing the shots. What can you expect from this type of cinematography? You can expect sweeping wide angle shots that will really key in on the actions of the characters, and the environment they are in. There will likely be less close up shots, but that will be to make way for medium and wide shots. I would venture to say this means Nolan will be involved with the direction of filming, a little more closely than previous web reports are insisting. The rumor is of course his brother "Jonah" Nolan will get his first big director responsibility with the Superman reboot. Since there is already a plan in motion for how this will be filmed, we may be discussing which Nolan will end up in that director's chair afterall.

I don't think because Batman was filmed that way the same thing would happen with Superman.

[LuisTX85]

edit: NM. It is still there.

Now new uh "info"

[/SIZE]

I don't think because Batman was filmed that way the same thing would happen with Superman.
[/LEFT]

Article sounds good to me IF indeed true!,I sure have mixed feelings about Nolan's brother possibly directing though.

[Happy Jack]

I have reservations about Jonathan Nolan directing if only because he's never done it before. He's proven himself to be a great screenwriter, but it's up in air whether he shares directorial talents with his brother.