View Full Version : WB Superman Reboot 3.0: Christopher Nolan Edition
Blackman
09-28-2010, 11:06 AM
Meester for a young Lois
Gugino for an older Lois
Portman still reminds me of the child she played in Leon. I say nay.
Grown up Lois, please. Sigourney Weaver? Well...
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 11:18 AM
Portman would be great as Lois Lane
Phoenix_Flare
09-28-2010, 12:03 PM
in a reboot I would like to see the origin of Krypton explored, Jor-El, his brother and Brainiac are important characters in the origin of Superman, so they need to be introduced. I'm tired of seeing Jor-El as a spirt/voice to Clark.
Brainiac would be a great a villian to be introduced.
Jor El's little brother is important because we can start the the beginning of Supergirl, just a cameo of her as a baby or child....
Lex Luthor, should be built up to be a villian in a sequel or 3rd film
and in a sequel Supergirl works better w/Superman but if I was writing it she wouldn't show up until a 3rd film
Bad Superman
09-28-2010, 12:49 PM
If the Portman rumors are true, I don't see Hamm getting the role. He's 10 years older than Natalie.
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 01:24 PM
If the Portman rumors are true, I don't see Hamm getting the role. He's 10 years older than Natalie.
Thats a good thing in my opinion :up:
Weadazoid
09-28-2010, 01:38 PM
Zoe Dachenel is a better pick for Lois. Superman fans won't like that that She was Thors girl first...LOL....
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 01:53 PM
Zoe Dachenel is a better pick for Lois. Superman fans won't like that that She was Thors girl first...LOL....
I like her aswell
Blackman
09-28-2010, 02:00 PM
Thats a good thing in my opinion :up:
I misread
I thought you were saying having Lois 10 years younger would be a good thing
Octoberist
09-28-2010, 02:02 PM
The only things that hampers Jon Hamm is his age (five o' clock shadow!) and MAYBE his height. Other than that, he would be a great choice.
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 02:08 PM
I misread
I thought you were saying having Lois 10 years younger would be a good thing
ha ha it would be for Hamm :p
Nah I meant Hamm not playing Superman
Blackman
09-28-2010, 02:14 PM
Hamm would be better older Batman IMO. Or the Punisher
I cant really think of another actor between 30-40 that would be a good Supes. Maybe Affleck. DONT KILL ME. He was good in Hollywoodland, IMO Daredevil and I hear he was good in The Town
But I hear Daredevil left a sour taste in his mouth about superhero movies
Producer - Cristopher Nolan
Writer - David Goyer, Jonathan Nolan
Director - Darren Aronofsky
Superman/Clark Kent - ?
Lois Lane - Natalie Portman
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm
It doesnt look bad at all.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 02:49 PM
Thats a good thing in my opinion :up:
Agreed!
Milkman95
09-28-2010, 02:50 PM
I wouldn't mind Portman, but how about Evangeline Lilly or Kate Beckinsale?
Blitzkrieg Bop
09-28-2010, 02:54 PM
After Aronofsky rumor, more one comes Is Natalie Portman Lois Lane?
http://www.whatsplaying.com.au/2010/09/film-news-is-natalie-portman-lois-lane/ (http://www.whatsplaying.com.au/2010/09/film-news-is-natalie-portman-lois-lane/)
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ChickenScratch
09-28-2010, 02:55 PM
Thats a good thing in my opinion :up:
Lois is older than Clark. She's been working in journalism and won several awards in the field before Clark even started working.
Mr. Earle
09-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Lois is older than Clark. She's been working in journalism and won several awards in the field before Clark even started working.
That doesnt mean that she's older though.
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 02:58 PM
If its true that Aronofsky has mentioned Portman to Nolan as a potential Lois Lane maybe Nolan is wanting to hear casting choices from the potential directors.
solidsnake86
09-28-2010, 03:16 PM
That could very well be possible BH/HHH, I don't think WB would be opposed to her as lois, and you would be hard pressed to hear complaints besides her being in thor.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 03:17 PM
The goofballs in here who keep whining and complaining and worrying about the next Superman film being "dark" are about as worse as the ones who suggest lousy pretty boy underwear model actors with zero acting experience to play Superman in the casting boards.
:doh:
BH/HHH
09-28-2010, 03:25 PM
The goofballs in here who keep whining and complaining and worrying about the next Superman film being "dark" are about as worse as the ones who suggest lousy pretty boy underwear model actors with zero acting experience to play Superman in the casting boards.
:doh:
:D
That could very well be possible BH/HHH, I don't think WB would be opposed to her as lois, and you would be hard pressed to hear complaints besides her being in thor.
Yeah I think she'd be a popular choice
ChickenScratch
09-28-2010, 03:34 PM
That doesnt mean that she's older though.
Not necessarily. But I work in journalism so I can say from my experience that the job she has and the awards she has won, nobody does that before 35. I started at a magazine at 17 and I'm now 29 and I'm still not on Lois' level. But it is fiction so anthing's possible, but I do know from my own life as well as my colleagues that it's not quite like that.
Man of Tomorrow
09-28-2010, 03:51 PM
http://www.moviehole.net/img/supermandarren.jpg
Darren has my vote. I love the way The Wrestler and The Fountain were shot.
He can really bring Superman into a gritty Nolan-esque reality.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 03:56 PM
Hard to see Nolan and Darren making a good team. Darren would need to let his ego go a bit and be a team player to make a kick ass Superman film.
Out of "rumoured" the list....I would choose Snyder first, then Darren, then Reeves and then Duncan.
However, I also think Alfonso Cuaron would work well also.
If Darren gets it....expect him and Nolan to get a solid cast for the film though.
Jon Hamm or Hugh Jackman as Superman
Natalie Portman or Emily Blunt as Lois Lane
Leonardo DiCaprio or Daniel Day Lewis as Lex Luthor
Day Lewis or Viggo Mortensen as Braniac
Jim Caviezel or Hugh Jackman as Jor El
Quite a few possibilities....
Karelia
09-28-2010, 04:13 PM
J.J. Abrams is one name I like for the new Superman film, but yeah. Out of the list, I would like to see Zack Synder's take on it with Nolan's guidance, but Synder already said he wouldn't know how to make Superman...
Whoever Nolan picks will be the right guy. So no worries from me.
RachelDawes
09-28-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm not opposed to the idea of Portman as Lois, but for chemistry's sake shouldn't they cast Superman before they start picking their Lois?
I agree. If they're already thinking about their Lois this could mean they know who they want for Superman.
Man of Tomorrow
09-28-2010, 04:24 PM
I agree. If they're already thinking about their Lois this could mean they know who they want for Superman.
Honestly, I think it may have to do with the 'LOVE' aspects of Superman taking a backseat this time around.
Lois is being cast for Lois and they probably won't play up the relationship aspects like they did for SR.
I could see her getting the equivalent focus of Rachel in TDK, while action and good vs evil drives the main plot.
kalelkilla
09-28-2010, 04:48 PM
If Portman is Lois, then I think they are going to cast a younger Superman no? She looks very young for her age (29). Someone near 40 (Hamm, Jackman) is going to look silly with Portman...
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 04:54 PM
I agree. If they're already thinking about their Lois this could mean they know who they want for Superman.
Agreed.
Nolan and Emma probably have a 4 or 5 name short list of actors already in mind for Superman and they have probably already discussed the actors being considered with their potential directors as well.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 04:55 PM
I wonder if Rachel Weiss might be considered for Lois Lane also if they cast someone like Hamm or Jackman as Superman?
Man of Tomorrow
09-28-2010, 04:56 PM
Hamm confirmed that he knows nothing about this Superman project, and it was just internet fans who started the rumor, correct?
And there's no way in hell Jackman will come anywhere close to playing Superman with this project. Why even bring up his name here? I'm sure he still thinks Fox will make Wolverine II happen. He's not even an American actor.
And Superman will probably be cast late 20s/early-mid 30s IMO.
Keep in mind Ryan Reynolds' age and Blake Lively's age. Females are generally cast much younger than the male leads.
Mr. Earle
09-28-2010, 05:23 PM
Not necessarily. But I work in journalism so I can say from my experience that the job she has and the awards she has won, nobody does that before 35. I started at a magazine at 17 and I'm now 29 and I'm still not on Lois' level. But it is fiction so anthing's possible, but I do know from my own life as well as my colleagues that it's not quite like that.
Realism in comics. :wow:
Lois is a fictional character, so she can have as many awards as she likes. Just like Bruce Wayne mastering every science and martial art by the time he was 25.
Besides, awards signify achievement. You can play violin your whole life and never reach Mozard, who was a master by his teens.Honestly, I think it may have to do with the 'LOVE' aspects of Superman taking a backseat this time around.
Lois is being cast for Lois and they probably won't play up the relationship aspects like they did for SR.
I could see her getting the equivalent focus of Rachel in TDK, while action and good vs evil drives the main plot.Lois is a very integral part of the mythos. Hell, her desk is right opposite Clark's and his normal life is tied to her. Just because SR failed, it doesnt mean that Lois should be ignored.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 05:41 PM
It's interesting though, that some of these reports regarding Darren being considered and in early talks....make it sound like that he may indeed be the lead contender to direct for the Nolan produced Superman film.
Interesting.
Dark Knight
09-28-2010, 05:42 PM
Hamm confirmed that he knows nothing about this Superman project, and it was just internet fans who started the rumor, correct?
And there's no way in hell Jackman will come anywhere close to playing Superman with this project. Why even bring up his name here? I'm sure he still thinks Fox will make Wolverine II happen. He's not even an American actor.
And Superman will probably be cast late 20s/early-mid 30s IMO.
Keep in mind Ryan Reynolds' age and Blake Lively's age. Females are generally cast much younger than the male leads.
Wahhhhh...he is not an American actor....wahhhhh......
XxDelta09xX
09-29-2010, 03:02 AM
Producer - Cristopher Nolan
Writer - David Goyer, Jonathan Nolan
Director - Darren Aronofsky
Superman/Clark Kent - ?
Lois Lane - Natalie Portman
Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm
It doesnt look bad at all.
Just add Brandon Routh as Superman and this cast is Perfect!!!:woot:
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 07:01 AM
It's interesting though, that some of these reports regarding Darren being considered and in early talks....make it sound like that he may indeed be the lead contender to direct for the Nolan produced Superman film.
Interesting.
Indeed. He's not my first choice but I wouldn't be opposed.
To be perfectly honest, after singer, i'll be leary of ANY director until I hear his thoughts and what he wants to do.
Don't get me wrong, I think singer is a very good film maker, but SR wasnt what I was expecting, at all.
Yeah, I'd be afraid that if Aronofsky gets it, there'd be clashing of creative minds. But maybe that's what Nolan wants. Someone who can take over once the deal is sealed.
Anyways... GreenKToo, who the hell is that in your avatar? It's bugging me..
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 08:58 AM
Lol, thats curly from the 3 stooges.
Aah ok, I kept thinking of WC Fields.
Jumpin' Jack
09-29-2010, 09:21 AM
Portman as Lois Lane, Isn't she Jane Foster in Thor already?
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 09:32 AM
Aah ok, I kept thinking of WC Fields.
Curly was awesome..my fav stooge.
Anywho, I dunno about portman. Maybe.
Alonsovich
09-29-2010, 10:29 AM
Portman being rumored can mean three things:
1 - Darren is already signed and has her at the top of his wishlist.
2 - Darren is not signed still, but talks are not early, rather VERY SERIOUS and has her at the top of his wishlist.
3 - Darren is only rumored and somebody who has her at the top of his wishlist just dropped the ball to the internet because of her being in Black Swan.
All this has 1 single conclusion: Portman is at the top of a wishlist... :o
HighFivingMF
09-29-2010, 10:34 AM
Or... Somebody started a rumor about Portman being considered even if she isn't.
Yep, I think people are too hung up on putting two and two together when everything is STILL just rumors.
Alonsovich
09-29-2010, 11:28 AM
Or... Somebody started a rumor about Portman being considered even if she isn't.
See point nº 3...:o
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 11:29 AM
Don't get me wrong, rumors about Lois casting is great and all, it's something to talk about afterall, but i'd like to hear some rumors about superman or Lex casting.
I'm really curious about what they're gonna aim for in casting superman.
Are they going for an older, more mature supes, or maybe younger. If the portman rumors are true, then supes should be around 30 I would think. (I think she's 29.)
As for Lex, i'm expecting, and hoping, for some big names there.
Yes, right now indications really go nowhere I think, which means anything goes.
But IF for instance Nolan should choose castmembers from his previous films like Inception and IF for instance he should choose Hardy for Lex, then we'd be looking at a younger Supes for sure.
Weary... from... speculating... :csad: But I have a feeling about Hardy.
HighFivingMF
09-29-2010, 11:36 AM
I'd love to see DiCaprio or Hardy as Lex. If they go older with Superman, that means they'd go older with Jimmy, in which case JGL for Jimmy. :awesome:
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 11:42 AM
That's the one thing I haven't worried about since nolan was announced to be involved, that being the cast. If we get a cast even remotely on the same level as what BB and TDK had, then i'll be tickled pink.
I was talking in generel. Need news, so I can lean back and get a life again. (heavy irony-smiley inserted)
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 12:29 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy who gets cast as supes shocks the bejeebus out of us.
BH/HHH
09-29-2010, 12:34 PM
Hamm confirmed that he knows nothing about this Superman project, and it was just internet fans who started the rumor, correct?
And there's no way in hell Jackman will come anywhere close to playing Superman with this project. Why even bring up his name here? I'm sure he still thinks Fox will make Wolverine II happen. He's not even an American actor.
And Superman will probably be cast late 20s/early-mid 30s IMO.
Keep in mind Ryan Reynolds' age and Blake Lively's age. Females are generally cast much younger than the male leads.
:up: great post
I just hope its Routh
Jumpin' Jack
09-29-2010, 12:35 PM
What about Zooey Deschanel as Lois?
BH/HHH
09-29-2010, 12:44 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy who gets cast as supes shocks the bejeebus out of us.
I get ya kinda in the same way Ledger as the Joker did ;)
What about Zooey Deschanel as Lois?
Been mentioned about a 1000 times, would be a great choice IMO
BTW Love your avatar :up:
Was Routh even mentioned being in the running for SR?
Jumpin' Jack
09-29-2010, 12:48 PM
I get ya kinda in the same way Ledger as the Joker did ;)
Been mentioned about a 1000 times, would be a great choice IMO
BTW Love your avatar :up:
Like yours too!
BH/HHH
09-29-2010, 12:49 PM
Was Routh even mentioned being in the running for SR?
No he just came out of nowhere
Ultimate_Superman
09-29-2010, 12:53 PM
Was Routh even mentioned being in the running for SR?
Actually yes he was the problem is no one knew who he was. Sort of like Tom Welling during the Smallville casting when told he might have a chance no one knew who he was but it was brought up. I think Iris was actually the first one to bring up Routh a will back but people dismissed it because we didn't know who he was.
Hmmm, I thought he wasn't. You entirely sure?
Anyways, some discussions in here seem a waste of time imo when they can pull a surprise-stunt like hiring a non-candidate like with the new Spider-man.
Ultimate_Superman
09-29-2010, 01:03 PM
Hmmm, I thought he wasn't. You entirely sure?
Anyways, some discussions in here seem a waste of time imo when they can pull a surprise-stunt like hiring a non-candidate like with the new Spider-man.Yes he was Iris (who now runs Brandon Routh.com) brought him up first here. Then people dismissed it because all he has done was undress so it went back to Brandon Fraser vs Welling and then the usual Welling vs anyone. However Routh's name kept popping up here and there but no one paid it no mind till he was cast then it was like who is that where did he come from.
BH/HHH
09-29-2010, 01:45 PM
Like yours too!
Cheers dude :up:
Is there a chance we can avoid this being in 3D?
Would Nolan have the final say and does he favor it at all? For Batman 3, probably not, but Superman has different potential with the flying and all.
Is there a chance we can avoid this being in 3D?
Would Nolan have the final say and does he favor it at all? For Batman 3, probably not, but Superman has different potential with the flying and all.
I think it would depend on what the director wants to do.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy who gets cast as supes shocks the bejeebus out of us.
Yes, if Nolan has the say, who we get will not be who we expect.
But then again, fan casting is incredibly narrow. How many actors have fans ignored because they don't have black hair?
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 07:11 PM
The portman rumors have thrown me a little because I was thinking this supes would be older. He still could be, rumors are just that afterall, rumors.
I'd love Jackman, Bana, or Hamm in the role.
Octoberist
09-29-2010, 07:34 PM
I can't see Jackman doing it. I'll be lying to you if Wolverine doesn't play a role in how I view him as an actor..
Bana I wouldn't mind though.
GreenKToo
09-29-2010, 08:02 PM
That would be an obstacle I suppose. Sure reynolds is playing two comic book characters, but Deadpool isn't exactly Cap or I.M., DP is not as well known.
As for Bana, if the ''WB is only wanting an American in the role'' rumor is true, then he would be out as well.
Meh. guessing right now on who they cast is like throwing darts at a dartboard in the dark.
matrix_ghost
09-30-2010, 06:23 AM
Is there a chance we can avoid this being in 3D?
Would Nolan have the final say and does he favor it at all? For Batman 3, probably not, but Superman has different potential with the flying and all.
No chance in hell that this isn't going to be 3d.
I'm pretty sure that nolan won't have a say in this. And speaking for myself ( and several pro-3d fans) , Superman is a property that i'd love to see done in proper 3d. Seeing him glying thru a city with all the building rendered in stereo as you see depth.
Yeah that is awesome.
For anti-3d fans this is going to suck but really accept this. WB isn't going to let this one slip away.
HighFivingMF
09-30-2010, 09:59 AM
Yeah that is awesome.
Is not. :o
Dark Knight
09-30-2010, 02:23 PM
No chance in hell that this isn't going to be 3d.
I'm pretty sure that nolan won't have a say in this. And speaking for myself ( and several pro-3d fans) , Superman is a property that i'd love to see done in proper 3d. Seeing him glying thru a city with all the building rendered in stereo as you see depth.
Yeah that is awesome.
For anti-3d fans this is going to suck but really accept this. WB isn't going to let this one slip away.
Agreed!
A Superman film shot with 3D cameras is a must IMO.
Man of Tomorrow
10-01-2010, 07:04 PM
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARBs5kKeAiw
Blackman
10-01-2010, 07:55 PM
Dont even post that wack stuff. that guy's a troll
X Knight
10-01-2010, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guy who gets cast as supes shocks the bejeebus out of us.
I'm calling it..........
Superman will be played by Gilbert Gottfried.
Son of a *****!!
you know you want it...........:o
GreenKToo
10-01-2010, 09:20 PM
nope.....Drew Carey.
SrsBsns
10-01-2010, 10:29 PM
No chance in hell that this isn't going to be 3d.
I'm pretty sure that nolan won't have a say in this. And speaking for myself ( and several pro-3d fans) , Superman is a property that i'd love to see done in proper 3d. Seeing him glying thru a city with all the building rendered in stereo as you see depth.
Yeah that is awesome.
For anti-3d fans this is going to suck but really accept this. WB isn't going to let this one slip away.
I despise the 3-D trend but I know you're right. I'd be shocked if this movie isn't available in 3-D.
Alonsovich
10-02-2010, 04:18 AM
Yes he was Iris (who now runs Brandon Routh.com) brought him up first here. Then people dismissed it because all he has done was undress so it went back to Brandon Fraser vs Welling and then the usual Welling vs anyone. However Routh's name kept popping up here and there but no one paid it no mind till he was cast then it was like who is that where did he come from.
*ahem* He was in McG's final screentests... that one with Cavill, Routh, Vogel, Gyllenhaal and so on... he had already been considered way before SR. He was totally unexpected up to a point. Singer ended up casting with the McG tapes (Routh for Supes, Cavill was next for the Logan's Run remake that never got made), basically because WB had already Caviezel set, if the search for an "unknown" failed, like it failed with Ratner.
matrix_ghost
10-02-2010, 03:50 PM
New York Times: Jackson to direct ‘The Hobbit’ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/movies/02hobbit.html?_r=2)
The first “Hobbit” film is expected to be released in mid-December 2012, the second a year later. Mr. Jackson has said he can direct the films only if those release dates can be met.
I've posted about this a couple of times in the past here about this but i still have my doubts that WB is going to release both Superman and Hobbit in the same month.
Hobbit with the combination of 3d is a guarenteed billion dollar grosser and why would you let such a behemoth as Hobbit compete with one of your big comic book properties. It doesn't make sense.
If WB is going to release this in 2012 , then November may be a good month. July and November were the months WB released the Potter movies in. Nov 2012 will have Potter , Nov 2011 will have Happy Feet 2 and Nov 2012 is empty.
And if November don't work , WB could release Superman in summer of 2013.
http://twitter.com/#!/LATherocomplex/status/26185060474
Originally Posted by @LATherocomplex
Watch Monday morning for exclusive new Christopher Nolan interview on www.herocomplex.com
Thanks to DaCrissaMan02.
Gabe99
10-02-2010, 08:33 PM
BLASTR Exclusive: Cloverfield director says he HASN'T been contacted about Superman (http://blastr.com/2010/10/cloverfield-director-says.php)
Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:07 PM
I've posted about this a couple of times in the past here about this but i still have my doubts that WB is going to release both Superman and Hobbit in the same month.
Hobbit with the combination of 3d is a guarenteed billion dollar grosser and why would you let such a behemoth as Hobbit compete with one of your big comic book properties. It doesn't make sense.
If WB is going to release this in 2012 , then November may be a good month. July and November were the months WB released the Potter movies in. Nov 2012 will have Potter , Nov 2011 will have Happy Feet 2 and Nov 2012 is empty.
And if November don't work , WB could release Superman in summer of 2013.
Exactly...WB's can always move the release date of Superman to Summer 2013 if necessary.
Sub-Zero
10-05-2010, 11:13 PM
actually they can't. they lose the rights and a ton of superman money to the siegels if they don't release the movie in 2012
Billy Batson
10-05-2010, 11:29 PM
http://chinaadopttalk.com/forum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/eating-popcorn-03.gif
Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:53 PM
actually they can't. they lose the rights and a ton of superman money to the siegels if they don't release the movie in 2012
I though the lawsuit just said as long as the film is effectively in pre production/production by the time 2011 roles around?
I didn't know it mandated a release date?
Kal-El Fan
10-05-2010, 11:55 PM
I think there is some kind of release date mentioned to keep them from putting something into production in 2011 and pulling the plug half way through.
Ita-KalEl
10-06-2010, 07:20 PM
WOW I feel younger again :-)
GreenKToo
10-06-2010, 07:27 PM
hey stranger.
DCUmoviepage
10-10-2010, 10:41 PM
Snyder talks again,now on video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4h0O6wy8kw&feature=player_embedded
Project862006
10-11-2010, 08:13 PM
OMG LOL THE ANTI-SNYDER CAMPAIGN
has begun lol
dx0GW-Np6sA
ChickenScratch
10-11-2010, 08:24 PM
What a douche.
GreenKToo
10-11-2010, 09:11 PM
lol, who's the lard bucket?
Sawyer
10-11-2010, 09:27 PM
Can we stop with the obnoxious youtube fan vids? They're awful. :o
matrix_ghost
10-12-2010, 01:25 PM
actually they can't. they lose the rights and a ton of superman money to the siegels if they don't release the movie in 2012
If i'm not mistaken according the lawsuit the superman movie needed to be in production in 2011 and oct 2013 WB would lose certain rights of superman.
The latter means that WB has could release Superman in summer of 2013.
FilmNerdJamie
10-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Cameras have to be rolling by next year and it has to be in theaters before 2013.
Mr. Earle
10-12-2010, 05:17 PM
And if they pull that off, will they keep the rights?
BenReilly
10-12-2010, 05:33 PM
And if they pull that off, will they keep the rights?
No, they just won't be sued by the Siegel's.
Come 2013, everything is up for grabs... regardless, if another Superman film goes into production before then.
batman44
10-26-2010, 09:40 PM
Geoff Boucher will be posting a Nolan interview. Hopefully we'll get to hear Nolan on picking Znyder for director of Superman.
Gabe99
10-27-2010, 02:23 AM
From io9:
In Superman: Earth One, Clark Kent is the boy who fell to Earth (http://io9.com/5674079/in-superman-earth-one-clark-kent-is-the-boy-who-fell-to-earth)
J. Michael Straczynski's new hardcover graphic novel Superman: Earth One portrays Superman as an extraterrestrial who forces himself to masquerade as a human twentysomething. Here's our review and interview with DC Comics co-publisher Dan DiDio.
Does the revamping of Superman in the Earth One format give us any sort of hints about the direction Zach Snyder's going in with the new film?
[Laugh] This book is an important publishing initiative for us. Again, one of the things we look at are all the forms of distribution that exist presently in comics. What we want to do is rather than keep repackaging material over and over in different distribution streams, we really want to find ways to craft new materials that really take advantage of the format. That's not just with regards to periodicals or collected editions or digital — it's with regards to all of them combined.
KyleDW2
10-27-2010, 08:20 AM
J. Michael Straczynski's new hardcover graphic novel Superman: Earth One portrays Superman as an extraterrestrial who forces himself to masquerade as a human twentysomething. Here's our review and interview with DC Comics co-publisher Dan DiDio.
Does the revamping of Superman in the Earth One format give us any sort of hints about the direction Zach Snyder's going in with the new film?
[Laugh] This book is an important publishing initiative for us. Again, one of the things we look at are all the forms of distribution that exist presently in comics. What we want to do is rather than keep repackaging material over and over in different distribution streams, we really want to find ways to craft new materials that really take advantage of the format. That's not just with regards to periodicals or collected editions or digital — it's with regards to all of them combined.
What the Hell does that even mean?
Superman2007
10-27-2010, 08:51 AM
What the Hell does that even mean?
It means he has no idea, or he can't talk about that.
KyleDW2
10-27-2010, 09:50 AM
It means he has no idea, or he can't talk about that.
But that's what everything means.
You know, one of the most frustrating things about listening to Hollywood news is the constant yearning for a straight answer. Just, every once and a while, I'd like a simple yes or no. Ah well. Tis the game we play.
KyleDW2
10-27-2010, 09:55 AM
You know, I just went back to the very first page of this thread. Apparently it is built upon the bones of a, "Do you want a sequel or a reboot?" thread from 2006. Its interesting to see the opinions from back then compared to the opinions of right now. My, what a long, strange trip we've been on. Did anyone back then think we'd be where we are now?
GreenKToo
10-27-2010, 11:34 AM
In august of 06, I would have thought by now that we would have had a sequel, with a 3rd film on the way.
Zack Snyder
10-27-2010, 05:24 PM
You know, I just went back to the very first page of this thread. Apparently it is built upon the bones of a, "Do you want a sequel or a reboot?" thread from 2006. Its interesting to see the opinions from back then compared to the opinions of right now. My, what a long, strange trip we've been on. Did anyone back then think we'd be where we are now?
I actually kind of did think this is where we would be. Once we saw indications that SR did not work the way they wanted it too, and later we saw other franchise getting the reboot treatment (first TIH, F4, and later Spidey) it seemed like the best decision to make.
Many people wanted a sequel, not because they liked SR, but because they were afraid no sequel=no new Superman movie at all.
Luckily that is not the case, so we get a new Superman movie with the slate whiped clean of Donner/Singer. That probably is the best thing for everyone, accept maybe Routh who was a potentially great choice that got stuck in the wrong story line.
Zack Snyder
10-27-2010, 05:24 PM
In august of 06, I would have thought by now that we would have had a sequel, with a 3rd film on the way.
I'm glad things worked out the way they did though. A new Superman film, no ties to Donner this time :up: Good stuff for modern Supes fans.
Changeling
10-27-2010, 05:27 PM
This is a really dumb question but youre not really Zack Snyder right?
I mean that would be kinda insane, but Bryan Singer used to post here..
Zack Snyder
10-27-2010, 05:29 PM
This is a really dumb question but youre not really Zack Snyder right?
I mean that would be kinda insane, but Bryan Singer used to post here..
No no. Just a fan...
Changeling
10-27-2010, 05:30 PM
hahah cool
GreenKToo
10-27-2010, 05:39 PM
I'm glad things worked out the way they did though. A new Superman film, no ties to Donner this time :up: Good stuff for modern Supes fans.
I agree. I didnt hate SR, I was indifferent to it. I would have given a sequel a chance tho, especially after hearing how singer talked it up so much..this should be better tho.
Alonsovich
10-27-2010, 05:51 PM
This is a really dumb question but youre not really Zack Snyder right?
I mean that would be kinda insane, but Bryan Singer used to post here..
Under which username? :huh:
Zack Snyder
10-27-2010, 05:56 PM
Under which username? :huh:
Yours of course. :doh:
GreenKToo
10-27-2010, 05:57 PM
not sure if singer did, but one or both of the writers of SR used to post here..thats a fact.
Yeah, why wouldnt' they. All writers for comicbook adaptations should.
You remember their aliases?
I wonder what Goyer's called in here...?
Gabe99
10-28-2010, 05:15 AM
From /film:
Hans Zimmer Talks ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ And ‘Superman’ Reboot (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/27/hans-zimmer-talks-dark-knight-rises-superman-reboot/)
In an interview with NBC San Diego (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/popcornbiz/Composer-Hans-Zimmer-Talks-Theme-Music-For-Nolan-Batman---and-Superman-105838533.html) (who are obviously staying classy), Zimmer said that Nolan was “going to come over next week” to start talking Batman. “We start early,” he said. “I know he’s puttering around with ideas, and we sort of sneak up on things.”
That lead Zimmer into discussing his free-flowing working relationship with Nolan, which doesn’t exactly center on music, but more on story, and the freedom the filmmaker affords him:
Working with Chris, he gives me all the freedom in the world and encourages me to go and be daring and unusual and crazy and all those sorts of things and be able to be the sort of emotional center of the film. It’s very give and take. I’ll start long before he starts shooting. Our conversations start there and it goes both ways: we just have conversations about the movie and less about what the music has to do, and it really comes out of that, whereby I felt that there was a real emotional core to be had and that that was something that the music had to do and I hung on that for dear life.The interviewer then asked Zimmer if whomever ends up scoring Zack Snyder’s Superman should reuse John Williams’ classic theme. Personally, I say yes, it’s one of the best themes ever. But Hans Zimmer doesn’t agree with me. Who does he think he is, Hans Zimmer or something?
It’s a hard one, but I followed one of the most iconic things on ‘Batman’ with Chris as well, and it’s the same thing. You are allowed to reinvent, but you have to try to be as good or at least as iconic and it has to resonate and it has to become a part of the zeitgeist. That’s the job. On ‘Gladiator’ I remember people always talking about ‘Spartacus’ and I kept telling them, ‘When you saw ‘Spartacus’ and how it affected it you, that’s how I want a modern audience to be affected by what we do now.’ So I think ultimately you’re supposed to reinvent.
Doctor Jones
10-28-2010, 05:08 PM
He's right on target.
Sawyer
10-28-2010, 05:17 PM
Still want Giacchino. :o
But I suppose Zimmer will do.
FlawlessVictory
11-01-2010, 11:16 AM
Robert Zemeckis On 'Superman' Reboot: 'I Passed On That Faster Than A Speeding Bullet' (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/01/robert-zemeckis-superman-reboot/)
Posted 2 hrs ago by Josh Wigler (http://splashpage.mtv.com/author/joshwigler/) in DC Comics (http://splashpage.mtv.com/category/dc-comics/), News (http://splashpage.mtv.com/category/news/)
The road towards a brand new "Superman (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/superman)" movie is a long one, but it's gotten shorter thanks to the involvement of director Zack Snyder (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/zack-snyder). The filmmaker, already known amongst comic book fans for his work on "300 (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/300)" and "Watchmen (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/watchmen)," is set to put his stamp on the Man of Steel for the character's 2012 big screen revamp — but that doesn't mean he was always considered the front runner to direct the Christopher Nolan (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/christopher-nolan)-produced film.
Indeed, several directors were considered for the "Superman" reboot, with "Back to the Future" director Robert Zemeckis (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/robert-zemeckis) listed as one of them. But in a recent interview with MTV News, Zemeckis thoroughly downplayed his rumored involvement with the iconic DC Entertainment property.
"I passed on that faster than a speeding bullet," he told MTV News about his brief connection to "Superman."
He elaborated on the topic, saying that rumors of his "Superman" involvement spread around due to a barrage of online reporting.
"You must have read that on the internet," he said of the rumors. "Don't trust everything you read on the internet! Isn't everything true on the internet?"
But Zemeckis did confirm that there were some minor "Superman" talks, even though the director said that such discussions were incredibly brief.
"When they asked if I wanted to make the, what is it, seventeenth version of 'Superman,' I said, 'No, I don't think so,'" he said.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/01/robert-zemeckis-superman-reboot/
HighFivingMF
11-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Looking at Wikipedia, Zemeckis literally made the 17th film version of A Christmas Carol...
FlawlessVictory
11-01-2010, 11:32 AM
^LOL, that's too funny.
GreenKToo
11-01-2010, 11:34 AM
lol. I think we got the right guy for the job anyway.
HighFivingMF
11-01-2010, 11:36 AM
Whoops, my mistake. Twenty-first film version!
Superman2007
11-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Looking at Wikipedia, Zemeckis literally made the 17th film version of A Christmas Carol...
LOL!
Guess he's thinks he's too good for Superman. That's fine, I'm sure there are more classics out there for him to butcher with his animated motion-capture studio.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-01-2010, 12:10 PM
I don't have any ill will towards a director passing up a project as I'm sure most have good reasons but...Zemeckis has made nothing but s**t for years now so I'm very happy that he quickly passed on it. I never wanted him for it anyway. Now he can go back to be illrelevent again.
I realize that this post sounds like I'm whining or that I'm offended by his statements but I'm really not. I'm offended that he thought that we needed BeoWolf and another Chrismas Carol film. I'm offended that he is obsessed with that s**t mo-cap dead eyed thing. Back To the Future Zemeckis was awesome but like alot of other older directors, he sucks now...:(
Octoberist
11-01-2010, 12:32 PM
I agree. This is NOT the same Zemeckis who made Roger Rabbit or Back to the Future.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/01/robert-zemeckis-superman-reboot/
Bah! Zemeckis sounds like a jilted lover who's trying to convince people he dumped her first. I'm sure there were minor talks indeed...he came in with his treatment and they said "thanks, we'll let you know."
Project862006
11-01-2010, 01:23 PM
sounds like he thinks he is above Superman
Dark Knight
11-01-2010, 02:04 PM
Newsflash:
Robert Zemeckis is passed his prime. :oldrazz:
DCUmoviepage
11-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Zack Snyder will talk a bit about TMOS in december edition of Empire, in "The Slate" session
...and Zach Snyder talks to us about his plans for Superman. Spoiler: he'll be quite strong, and able to fly. Supes, that is; not Snyder.
http://www.empireonline.com/magazine/
Sith Scotti
11-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Good for Zemeckis.If he thinks comic book films are beneath him , I dare him to make a better movie than The Dark Knight .
BH/HHH
11-01-2010, 03:54 PM
Zack Snyder will talk a bit about TMOS in december edition of Empire, in "The Slate" session
http://www.empireonline.com/magazine/
When is it on sale?
Dark Knight
11-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Good for Zemeckis.If he thinks comic book films are beneath him , I dare him to make a better movie than The Dark Knight .
Exactly!
Any director who thinks directing a comic book is beneath them....then should step up to the plate and not be scared and direct a comic genre film, that is better than The Dark Knight and the original Superman The Movie.
Octoberist
11-01-2010, 06:19 PM
Question: Should Zach film the movie in a real city or just use sets ala Watchmen.
I have to say this: I thought the sets were nice in Watchmen, it still didn't feel like a real city. Which is strange because Peter Jackson's King Kong never shot in NYC and just relied on sets, but it felt real.
Project862006
11-01-2010, 06:39 PM
^ i think the problem their is we barely got to see the city we saw shots but unlike TDK which had Gotham feel like a character just as much as the joker was.
GreenKToo
11-01-2010, 06:55 PM
I'd like to see this metropolis in all its glory. I got the sense that the metropolis we saw in SR could have been any medium size city. It certainly didnt seem like a metropolis to me.
Sawyer
11-01-2010, 07:06 PM
I'd like to see this metropolis in all its glory. I got the sense that the metropolis we saw in SR could have been any medium size city. It certainly didnt seem like a metropolis to me.
We've never gotten a really great Metropolis on film. Hopefully Snyder changes that.
Doc Samson
11-01-2010, 07:07 PM
I'd like to see this metropolis in all its glory. I got the sense that the metropolis we saw in SR could have been any medium size city. It certainly didnt seem like a metropolis to me.
Exactly. Metropolis should be the antithesis of Gotham just as much as their protectors are to eachother. Where one is dark, gritty, downtrodden and riddled with crime, the other should be bright, vibrant, financially advanced, technologically superior, and relatively safe.
I mean, one place has a man fighting within an inch of his life constantly, whereas the other has a super-being who can travel to either end of the city within seconds. The differences should be stark, and with TDK depicting Gotham as such a vast place in terms of scale, Snyder needs to show how huge and illustrious Metropolis is.
Or in simpler terms:
Metropolis=The great parts of NY/Los Angeles
Gotham=All the other parts
I Am The Knight
11-01-2010, 09:20 PM
LOL!
Guess he's thinks he's too good for Superman. That's fine, I'm sure there are more classics out there for him to butcher with his animated motion-capture studio.
More like motion-crapture...
He "sounds" really pedantic in that interview...
antsman41
11-01-2010, 09:23 PM
I always loved how Batman described Metropolis in Batman: Hush, it was perfect...
Metropolis should almost have a Hong Kong/Times Square vibe, just bright and overbearking with signs and commercial stuff...
Superman2007
11-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Maybe after the first movie Metropolis can look more like the city of tomorrow. But initially, you need a city dangerous, and grimey enough to warrant a Superman saving it.
One of the issues with SR was how the city had no personality.
It was like a fake stock city built inside a computer. Metropolis needs to breathe and have it's own energy. I'd say it needs to have the look of Vancouver but the vibrancy and pulse of a New York.
SuperDaniel
11-01-2010, 11:02 PM
Forrest Gump is to me the best movie of all time but I`m disappointed on his views on Superman. He doesn`t know the character at all. IMO, Forrest Gump and Superman are very similar in the way that they represent AMERICANA.
Sawyer
11-01-2010, 11:06 PM
Yeah, Zemeckis really came off sounding like a douche there.
Sith Scotti
11-02-2010, 09:44 AM
All I ask for is the following
1Modernized Lex -Not some goofy gut plotting real estate schemes
2 A Supervillian who cant test Supes physaically - I prefer if it was not Zod
3 No more Donner homages . Modernize the film for 2012 . That means a new theme as well
Blackman
11-02-2010, 09:48 AM
Question: Should Zach film the movie in a real city or just use sets ala Watchmen.
I have to say this: I thought the sets were nice in Watchmen, it still didn't feel like a real city. Which is strange because Peter Jackson's King Kong never shot in NYC and just relied on sets, but it felt real.
Real city.
Sith Scotti
11-02-2010, 10:05 AM
The King Kong New York sets were clearly fake looking cgi. I actully thought The cities in Watchman looked less cgi than Kong by a lot actually
The King Kong New York sets were clearly fake looking cgi. I actully thought The cities in Watchman looked less cgi than Kong by a lot actually
Well Watchmen was mostly sets :oldrazz:
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BH/HHH
11-02-2010, 10:53 AM
Had anyone bought the new Empire magazine yet then? or it it not on sale yet
Sith Scotti
11-02-2010, 11:12 AM
Well Watchmen was mostly sets :oldrazz:
-HIUEqvJ2-SQ
Well Yeah but someone said King King's New York looked more realistic than Watchmen. I don't see that
GreenKToo
11-02-2010, 12:55 PM
It think it would be neat if the took all the best and tallest skyscrapers from around the world and CG'ed them into a real city like new york, toronto, or chicago.
Doctor Jones
11-02-2010, 03:39 PM
I don't think we have to worry about what Snyder's Metropolis will look like. He like's faithfullness so expect it to possibly look like some of them in the comics. And it will look beautiful I think. Hopefully not too stylized, but I think when we first see it in a trailer,w e'll be like "whoa..."
KyleDW2
11-02-2010, 03:52 PM
If I were to ask for one version of Metropolis, I'd go with the one from Superman: The Animated Series. It was the exact opposite of Batman's Gothic and cramped architecture. It was sleek, beautiful and modern. Tall buildings reaching up into the sky, highways stretching between the canyons of skyscrapers, tons and tons of sciency things for virtually no reason other than to create monsters for Superman to fight. This is the version of Metropolis I'd like to see. The shining city on the hill. Hell, there must be a reason that a city can get away with naming itself the word that basically means "really big city." If you're going to call yourself Metropolis, you had better deliver on that claim.
BH/HHH
11-02-2010, 03:54 PM
If I were to ask for one version of Metropolis, I'd go with the one from Superman: The Animated Series. It was the exact opposite of Batman's Gothic and cramped architecture. It was sleek, beautiful and modern. Tall buildings reaching up into the sky, highways stretching between the canyons of skyscrapers, tons and tons of sciency things for virtually no reason other than to create monsters for Superman to fight. This is the version of Metropolis I'd like to see. The shining city on the hill. Hell, there must be a reason that a city can get away with naming itself the word that basically means "really big city." If you're going to call yourself Metropolis, you had better deliver on that claim.
:up: totally agree]
Tbh I'd use Superman the Animated Series as a template for the whole movie imo its the best interpretation of Superman to date
El Payaso
11-03-2010, 01:50 AM
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/01/robert-zemeckis-superman-reboot/
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! :csad:
Robert... we... Superman fans, loved you. You were on every list of ours. You were our dream director...
How could you...
It think it would be neat if the took all the best and tallest skyscrapers from around the world and CG'ed them into a real city like new york, toronto, or chicago.
They should look at all the major metropolitan cities in the world and find a way to combine them.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-03-2010, 02:42 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! :csad:
Robert... we... Superman fans, loved you. You were on every list of ours. You were our dream director...
How could you...He wasn't on my dream list. Anyway I think that he sounds like a guy who was turned down. That comment was way too bitter.
FilmNerdJamie
11-03-2010, 06:34 AM
Anyway I think that he sounds like a guy who was turned down. That comment was way too bitter.
Bingo. My thoughts exactly.
El Payaso
11-03-2010, 07:48 AM
He wasn't on my dream list. Anyway I think that he sounds like a guy who was turned down. That comment was way too bitter.
He wasn't on my list either. But he was in every poll and thread about directors I saw in here and I certainly saw a big number of posters in loving his name for Superman.
AnorexicBatman
11-03-2010, 12:16 PM
This should be the blueprint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA
This mere 1:40 minute scene completely summarizes Superman
Bingo. My thoughts exactly.
Mine too. I'm amazed no one thought of it. He's just acting like a hurt little brat, that's all.
This should be the blueprint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA
This mere 1:40 minute scene completely summarizes Superman
For action scenes, yes. For characterisation, no.
flickchick85
11-03-2010, 01:00 PM
He wasn't on my dream list. Anyway I think that he sounds like a guy who was turned down. That comment was way too bitter.
Agreed on both counts.
Doctor Jones
11-03-2010, 03:41 PM
Hmm, never thought about it like that before. You could be right.
I would have loved Zemeckis to direct. Despite Polar Express and Beowulf, I still love his past great films.
XxDelta09xX
11-04-2010, 01:26 AM
This should be the blueprint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA
This mere 1:40 minute scene completely summarizes Superman
Jeez!:wow:
MAN O STEEL
11-04-2010, 03:19 AM
For characterisation, no.
For characterisation, YES!. I want a Superman who's confident in his abilities & doesn't mind giving the villian a strong word of mouth & showing his true power. That is the Superman who'll sell tickets, not emoman.
Steve
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 07:36 AM
This should be the blueprint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA
This mere 1:40 minute scene completely summarizes SupermanIn action only. Thank god for Snyder btw, because i am 100% sure that Nolan cant deliver this kind of action.
For characterisation, YES!. I want a Superman who's confident in his abilities & doesn't mind giving the villian a strong word of mouth & showing his true power. That is the Superman who'll sell tickets, not emoman.
Steve
Yes, I want emoman, as you can clearly surmise from my short, six word post.
No, I'm simply saying posting a 1:40 minute clip of Superman beating up Darkseid doesn't sum up the character.
I also happen to dislike JLU's characterisation of Superman but it has nothing to do with confidence and true power...
DCUmoviepage
11-04-2010, 09:03 AM
Snyder promises "different" 'Superman' and denied internet rumors
Zack Snyder has promised that his Superman movie will be "different" from previous Man of Steel incarnations, yet stay true to tradition.
In an interview with Empire, the Watchmen director said that David Goyer's script doesn't alter the DC Comics "canon".
"It's a different story," Snyder said. "I won't say there's a break from the canon or anything like that, but there is definitely an approach that makes you go, 'Okay, that's a way to get at it.'"
He continued: "David is very respectful of the canon and stuff like that. It has its roots in the canon and again, like I say, it has a point of view about who he is. I'm being cryptic, I know, but it's the best I can do."
Asked if his movie will track the Man of Steel's early years, Snyder replied: "I think it's early to say. I don't know."
The director also described rumours of the comic book hero facing General Zod as "just wrong", adding that "the internet has no idea what's going on".Source (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a285987/snyder-promises-different-superman.html)
GreenKToo
11-04-2010, 09:18 AM
no zod then, good.
maenalus
11-04-2010, 09:28 AM
I figured there was nothing to the Zod rumor. Glad to see Snyder confirm there isn't.
solidsnake86
11-04-2010, 09:50 AM
The thing with the zod rumour is that it wasn't just coming from any website, it was the hollywood reporter and there generally right. So either things changed or zod isn't the villain but has a role in it.
Sith Scotti
11-04-2010, 10:10 AM
Good News There . Snyder has given me hope . I want Brainiac damn it.
Slugster
11-04-2010, 10:11 AM
Thank God, no Zod!
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 10:24 AM
Snyder promises "different" 'Superman' and denied internet rumors
Source (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a285987/snyder-promises-different-superman.html)
- David Goyer's script doesn't alter the DC Comics "canon".
The director also described rumours of the comic book hero facing General Zod as "just wrong", adding that "the internet has no idea what's going on". YES!!! :applaud
- "It's a different story," Snyder said. "I won't say there's a break from the canon or anything like that, but there is definitely an approach that makes you go, 'Okay, that's a way to get at it.'"
- Asked if his movie will track the Man of Steel's early years, Snyder replied: "I think it's early to say. I don't know."
These worry me.
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 10:24 AM
Yes, I want emoman, as you can clearly surmise from my short, six word post.
No, I'm simply saying posting a 1:40 minute clip of Superman beating up Darkseid doesn't sum up the character.
Agreed.
I also happen to dislike JLU's characterisation of Superman but it has nothing to do with confidence and true power...Why?
Why?
Superman came off as an ******* in the DCAU to be honest, especially when George Newburn was voicing him. Episodes like Twilight and Clash really made him unlikeable. Not to mention the Justice Lords Superman was so evil that it really made me wonder what the writers thought of Superman.
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 10:40 AM
Superman came off as an ******* in the DCAU to be honest, especially when George Newburn was voicing him. Episodes like Twilight and Clash really made him unlikeable. Not to mention the Justice Lords Superman was so evil that it really made me wonder what the writers thought of Superman.
They were all evil, but i guess Superman's "evilness" was underlined by the fact that all the others had no personality or screentime, except of course alternate Batman who was convinced to become good again.
In Twilight i thought he was OK, was he supposed to be all "whatever" at what Darkseid had done to him? I guess they went a bit overboard and made it worse with Batman telling him "cry me a river" as if he never whines.
BH/HHH
11-04-2010, 10:53 AM
Zack Snyder has promised that his Superman movie will be "different" from previous Man of Steel incarnations, yet stay true to tradition.
In an interview with Empire, the Watchmen director said that David Goyer's script doesn't alter the DC Comics "canon".
"It's a different story," Snyder said. "I won't say there's a break from the canon or anything like that, but there is definitely an approach that makes you go, 'Okay, that's a way to get at it.'"
He continued: "David is very respectful of the canon and stuff like that. It has its roots in the canon and again, like I say, it has a point of view about who he is. I'm being cryptic, I know, but it's the best I can do."
Asked if his movie will track the Man of Steel's early years, Snyder replied: "I think it's early to say. I don't know."
I must say the bit about him saying he doesn't know about Superman's early years does worry me.
In action only. Thank god for Snyder btw, because i am 100% sure that Nolan cant deliver this kind of action.
Agreed, we will definitely get some major action scenes with Snyder involved
HighFivingMF
11-04-2010, 11:43 AM
I must say the bit about him saying he doesn't know about Superman's early years does worry me.
He's just saying that he's not sure if it will take place during the early days because he still hasn't been able to sit down and work everything out because of Ga'Hoole and Sucker Punch.
GreenKToo
11-04-2010, 12:57 PM
I'd prefer an older established Superman but i'd be ok with a younger one.
Something like Batman '89 would work. He's active, but relatively new.
GreenKToo
11-04-2010, 01:03 PM
yes, something like that would be great.
sweetre15
11-04-2010, 01:34 PM
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a285987/snyder-promises-different-superman.html
Thoughts?
storyteller
11-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Didn't really learn anything. No director goes " Well were going to do what the last guy did and not offer anything new" . Clearly they are in early preproduction so bad guys and what not should be taken as a grain of salt for a while.
BH/HHH
11-04-2010, 02:00 PM
This has already been posted
BH/HHH
11-04-2010, 02:01 PM
He's just saying that he's not sure if it will take place during the early days because he still hasn't been able to sit down and work everything out because of Ga'Hoole and Sucker Punch.
But surely he already knows from the script unless its abit ambigious about that, hmmm.
Pseudo clarification in some ways. Or rather, clarifying that we don't know some of the things we thought we knew, like early years, and zod, though I know many doubted some of those to begin with.
Of course, even if those are true, or become true, he said things in such a way that things can go either way. The film COULD end up having Zod, but one can't say, as of now, that it WILL.
RachelDawes
11-04-2010, 02:50 PM
But surely he already knows from the script unless its abit ambigious about that, hmmm.
Or he just doesn't want to tell the interviewer.
Something like Batman '89 would work. He's active, but relatively new.
Good idea. "Unconfirmed sightings" Superman interacts with people like TDK, too fast to be seen, heat vision from afar, if he is forced to be seen (stopping train) speeds away immediately after, nobody really believes witness.
Superman could be urban legend too. Could be a story about crossing over that threshold into public awareness.
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 03:10 PM
Good idea. "Unconfirmed sightings" Superman interacts with people like TDK, too fast to be seen, heat vision from afar, if he is forced to be seen (stopping train) speeds away immediately after, nobody really believes witness.
Superman could be urban legend too. Could be a story about crossing over that threshold into public awareness.
Somebody saaaaaaaaaave me.... :cwink:
Showtime
11-04-2010, 03:22 PM
I must say the bit about him saying he doesn't know about Superman's early years does worry me.
He's being coy.
BH/HHH
11-04-2010, 04:02 PM
He's being coy.
Yeah thats what I thought
Can't wait until we start hearing about casting etc
Project862006
11-04-2010, 04:12 PM
if this was just a Snyder project he would of spilled the beans already lol
Octoberist
11-04-2010, 05:11 PM
I'm more happy that he totally dismisses GENERAL ZOD.
thank god.
Gamma Goliath
11-04-2010, 05:15 PM
I want brainiac.
Octoberist
11-04-2010, 05:18 PM
I want Brainiac too!
HighFivingMF
11-04-2010, 05:26 PM
I want Toyman!
project13
11-04-2010, 06:19 PM
Snyder promises "different" 'Superman' and denied internet rumors
Source (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a285987/snyder-promises-different-superman.html)
I think what he's saying is that he's gonna do a story about Superman's "early years", but in a way no one would ever expect.
More about the Empire article..
Snyder has now given a few more clues and details about the project in an interview with Empire magazine.
He said: "The script that Chris [Nolan] and David Goyer, the idea they came up with, for me is fun to talk about and it's got a lot of awesome stuff in it. It's easy to riff on and explore. I was really optimistic about the ideas that they have laid out in there. I was pretty excited about it once I had gotten a handle on the idea."
Snyder (pictured below) elaborated: "It's a different story. I won't say there's a break from the canon or anything like that but there definitely is an approach that makes you go 'Okay, that's a way to get at it.'
"It's certainly respectful. David is very respectful of the canon and stuff like that. It has its roots in the canon, it has a point of view about who he is."
He believes it isn't based on a particular run of comics and says it's too early to talk about his take on the character and the rumours that it will be focus on the hero's early years.
But he does make it clear that this is a restart for the franchise: "If reboot means to act as if there were no movies before, then it's a reboot. It owes nothing to the movies of the past."
Zack adds that "the internet has no idea what's going on" behind the scenes of the production and says a suggestion that Zod is the villain is "just wrong."
He hasn't yet thought about casting, he reveals, and is unaware of a campaign to get Brandon Routh back in the role, despite a tabloid report that said Snyder acknowledged the 'groundswell' of support for that actor and would reconsider him.
This latest interview does at least clear up some of the inaccuracies travelling round the interwebs.
We know now for certain the project is a reboot unrelated to previous films, that Zod isn't the villain, and that Snyder is not aware of the Routh lobbying and nor has he even considered casting.
Therefore, it's probably safe to conclude that bringing back someone from a previous Superman incarnation can be well and truly ruled out
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2010/11/zack-snyder-confirms-new-super.html
batman44
11-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Can't wait to hear what the actual storyline is.
Somebody saaaaaaaaaave me.... :cwink:
Somebody save me from people who don't realize Miller and Byrne played up that angle a decade before that show started. Now it's off limits cause what they've done something similar on SV? Guess he can't work at the DP with LL or JO either, cause it's all been done too.:whatever:Can't wait to hear what the actual storyline is.
Judging from that Empire article, I'd be surprised if we hear anything this year.
antsman41
11-04-2010, 07:56 PM
I'd be surprised if we hear anything this year.
Or anything until next July outside of the main cast and definite title...
Superark
11-04-2010, 09:09 PM
I hope their take is faithful and fun
FCEEVIPER
11-04-2010, 09:12 PM
I hope their take is faithful and fun
Yes, and with a little bit of this in there....
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Young Superman
11-04-2010, 09:32 PM
Do you guys/gals think Superman will be the sole survivor of the planet Krypton in the new Superman film franchise?
That depends on who the villain will be. They might use TAS Brainiac.
solidsnake86
11-04-2010, 09:41 PM
Originally they said brainiac and luthor, then they said zod which both latino review and thr confirmed to be in it. They could have all three in the movie, zod in a flash back, brainiac as a villain, and luthor being mentioned. It would really explain the conflicting reports.
Well Snyder recently said Zod isn't the villain.
FCEEVIPER
11-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Well Snyder recently said Zod isn't the villain.
No Riddler, no Zod...
It's a very happy day in my DC movieverse. :awesome:
Octoberist
11-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Originally they said brainiac and luthor, then they said zod which both latino review and thr confirmed to be in it. They could have all three in the movie, zod in a flash back, brainiac as a villain, and luthor being mentioned. It would really explain the conflicting reports.
There was a lot of misinfomation that got leaked out during the announcements. Latino Review got a confirmation but this is a game of telephone that we're dealing with.
It's like Spider-Man: The Reboot. First Mary Jane was in, then not, then Hollywood Reporter & Deadline said Emma Stone was in the running for Mary Jane, only to be dismissed by the official press announcement by Sony, with Stone for Gwen.
Mr. Earle
11-04-2010, 10:03 PM
Somebody save me from people who don't realize Miller and Byrne played up that angle a decade before that show started. Now it's off limits cause what they've done something similar on SV? Guess he can't work at the DP with LL or JO either, cause it's all been done too.:whatever:No, its just that people dont want to see what they've already been watching in Smallville for 10 seasons!
Young Superman
11-04-2010, 10:05 PM
No Riddler, no Zod...
It's a very happy day in my DC movieverse. :awesome:
Agreed
Young Superman
11-04-2010, 10:13 PM
That depends on who the villain will be. They might use TAS Brainiac.
If they use the Superman: TAS version of Brainiac, Kal-El could still be the last biological Kryptonian.
Blitzkrieg Bop
11-04-2010, 10:29 PM
Do you guys/gals think Superman will be the sole survivor of the planet Krypton in the new Superman film franchise?
No real way to know. Kryptonian versions of Supergirl, Krypto, Zod and the like all have a 50/50 shot of making it; they either will or they won't.
Showtime
11-04-2010, 10:34 PM
I would be careful not to get swept up in all of these conflicting reports. Snyder is being so coy that he is almost abusing the term. Not only has he bought it to WB's "fun with misinformation" stance, he's borrowed a page out of Nolan's "Book of Coy". Don't fall for any of it.
Superark
11-04-2010, 10:41 PM
I would be careful not to get swept up in all of these conflicting reports. Snyder is being so coy that he is almost abusing the term. Not only has he bought it to WB's "fun with misinformation" stance, he's borrowed a page out of Nolan's "Book of Coy". Don't fall for any of it.
It;s a good way of keeping fans guessing and a way to surprise them down the road. Hopefully they are all good surprises
Superman2007
11-04-2010, 10:48 PM
I don't blame him for his coyness at this stage.
Maybe by the time Sucker Punch opens in March, he might be more willing to part with information about story beats.
No, its just that people dont want to see what they've already been watching in Smallville for 10 seasons!
No, that's not what I suggested. He is Superman, in costume doing his job, but he's not sticking around for pictures or interviews. Along the lines of Miller's version in the Dark Knight Returns, where he's low profile in agreement with the U.S. Gov. But he could also be working low profile just to protect his identity. Superman is maskless to earn peoples trust, but still doesn't his image recorded for possible comparison, so he's elusive. He could even use the heat vision glare effect as a mask of sorts when he's confronting criminals.
I'm suggesting he start his costumed career low profile, then he transitions to high profile. I'm not advocating some, "how will I fight evil/what shall I wear", scenario. That's Smallville.
SuperDaniel
11-05-2010, 12:07 AM
As long as this movie isn`t based on Superman Earth One, i`ll be fine. JMS just doesn`t get Superman. For those who complained about Byrne making Superman like Collossus or something, just read this story. Now its Emo Peter Parker who can fly, doesn`t want to wear the costume, doesn`t care about buildings on fire, doesn`t want to become Superman or even save lives. Oh, and he cheats on sports and science.
Just to hear Goyer talking about this story in the last page make me shudder to think about this movie..
ps:I wonder what are Kurosawa thoughts on this story...
Young Superman
11-05-2010, 05:49 AM
I'm really glad General Zod will not be the villain in "Man of Steel".
BH/HHH
11-05-2010, 06:40 AM
If reboot means to act as if there were no movies before, then it's a reboot. It owes nothing to the movies of the past.
I'm taking this that this means no origin
I'm really glad General Zod will not be the villain in "Man of Steel".
Same here, I really like Zod and one day maybe it will be right to bring him back but there's so many Superman villains that we haven't seen its on;y right to use someone who hasn't been done on the big screen before
Is it me or does this interview confirm NOTHING?! Snyder's neither denying or confirming Zod or the story-line, but everybody jumps at "no Zod" or "older Superman".
Isn't he simply saying "dont believe what you read online!"? That rumors are rumors for now?
Jebus! :doh:
solidsnake86
11-05-2010, 09:12 AM
^The interview does confirm nothing, and I'm glad your one of the only ones that cared to read the article. Heck Snyder says don't believe what you read online and yet everyone is believing bits and pieces of quotes that aren't direct. He didn't say, zod is not in the film, just that rumours on the internet are "just wrong", big difference.
Exactly. I think people kinda missed the point of the statements. Very ironic actually. And unnerving. :whatever:
FilmNerdJamie
11-05-2010, 09:29 AM
Best thing for someone to do is post the entire interview.
solidsnake86
11-05-2010, 09:38 AM
In what was written the author talks about zod and then they throw in "just wrong" and everyone automatically says zod is not in the film. Your right jamie, it would be nice to see the entire interview. WB must be loving this, between batman and superman they have hundreds of rumours that its very far to pick out the truth. A lot different from the days where people actually had the script.
dark_b
11-05-2010, 11:33 AM
Snder said two things
-hes superman will be different
-no Zod
he said what every director with a brain would do. of course he said that it would be different. you would have to be an idiot to comapre your movie to TDK(MCG) or to S:TM,....
you would also have to be crazy to work for Nolan and spoil the villain 2 years before the movie is realesed.
right now it doesnt matter what Snyder says. if Zod is the villain or not,the studio ,Nolan and SNyder will deny it.
Excelsior.
11-05-2010, 02:55 PM
McG compared T4 (I'm assuming) to the Dark Knight?
FilmNerdJamie
11-05-2010, 02:57 PM
McG compared T4 (I'm assuming) to the Dark Knight?
He said Salvation was going to do to the Terminator franchise what Batman Begins and The Dark Knight did to Batman.
HighFivingMF
11-05-2010, 03:29 PM
He said Salvation was going to do to the Terminator franchise what Batman Begins and The Dark Knight did to Batman.
It did do what Batman Begins did, featured Christian Bale. :woot:
Daybreak_st
11-05-2010, 03:31 PM
As long as this movie isn`t based on Superman Earth One, i`ll be fine. JMS just doesn`t get Superman. For those who complained about Byrne making Superman like Collossus or something, just read this story. Now its Emo Peter Parker who can fly, doesn`t want to wear the costume, doesn`t care about buildings on fire, doesn`t want to become Superman or even save lives. Oh, and he cheats on sports and science.
Just to hear Goyer talking about this story in the last page make me shudder to think about this movie..
ps:I wonder what are Kurosawa thoughts on this story...
I'm sorry but how does one "cheat at science" :whatever:
BH/HHH
11-05-2010, 03:37 PM
Is it me or does this interview confirm NOTHING?! Snyder's neither denying or confirming Zod or the story-line, but everybody jumps at "no Zod" or "older Superman".
Isn't he simply saying "dont believe what you read online!"? That rumors are rumors for now?
Jebus! :doh:
Yeah he is very vague gotta say its a clever interview, he does confirm that it has nothing to do with the previous Superman movies but thats it.
I think he does kind of confirm that Zod isn't the villain but he doesn't confirm that Zod isn't involved.
GreenKToo
11-05-2010, 05:11 PM
It's according to what his definition of 'is' is. (heh)
7heBoss
11-05-2010, 06:49 PM
I'm sorry but how does one "cheat at science" :whatever:
If you think about it he doesn't really cheat at anything. its not cheating when you use the strength and speed you were naturally born with. its just unfair
SuperDaniel
11-05-2010, 08:12 PM
^Exactely. Its wrong characterization. I didn`t like when Byrne's Superman did it and i didn`t like it here.
Daybreak_st
11-05-2010, 10:11 PM
^Exactely. Its wrong characterization. I didn`t like when Byrne's Superman did it and i didn`t like it here.
So him using superior intellect to solve scientic equations that will help humantiy is somehow cheating and or wrong? Is it an more wrong for him to accomplish something the police or fireman cant' by using his abilities to help? If he really is so smart it would seem like a noble thing to use his intelligence to help solve the world's problems instead only using his fists.
It's cheating if he's getting paid for his work as Clark Kent, it's heroism if he's doing it for free as Superman.
DCUmoviepage
11-07-2010, 06:23 PM
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I wanna see Patrick as Barry Allen, no Clark Kent!
FilmNerdJamie
11-07-2010, 06:32 PM
Absolute hit-whoring - nothing in there suggests he's in the running.
TheWatcher
11-07-2010, 07:06 PM
He's interested. NOT in the running. That being said,Wilson as Superman would absolutely rock.
Sawyer
11-07-2010, 07:16 PM
Wilson would be fantastic. I would be pleased.
Mr. Earle
11-07-2010, 07:49 PM
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7792/1288830266726.jpg
Seriously?
ChickenScratch
11-07-2010, 07:50 PM
This is weird, I'm seeing Wilson pop up in a few threads tonight. He's so not Superman.
Sawyer
11-07-2010, 07:58 PM
Yeah, it'd be a real shame.... getting a good actor to play Superman. :o
Mr. Earle
11-07-2010, 08:07 PM
Yeah, it'd be a real shame.... getting a good actor to play Superman. :oLets get Al Pacino then.
Come on man, he looks nothing like the character, why do people keep ignoring this in casting discussions?
Sawyer
11-07-2010, 08:09 PM
He looks enough like the character that I wouldn't complain.
Gamma Goliath
11-07-2010, 08:16 PM
Looks more like lex. Doesn't look much like supes at all imo.
bgshw44
11-07-2010, 08:32 PM
i think one of the things watchmen was lacking was some well known actors in the cast. i hope nolan follows through on the casting on superman
SuperDaniel
11-07-2010, 08:57 PM
Wilson looks nothing like Superman. He could be a great Luthor though...
bgshw44
11-07-2010, 09:32 PM
Wilson looks nothing like Superman. He could be a great Luthor though...
luthor needs to be a name actor.
Project862006
11-07-2010, 10:04 PM
i think one of the things watchmen was lacking was some well known actors in the cast. i hope nolan follows through on the casting on superman
:doh: that would of ruined watchmen
unless you wanted the rumored Keanu as Doctor Manhattan
AnorexicBatman
11-07-2010, 10:28 PM
I still say Brandon Routh. Don't punish him for Singer's screw ups
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