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Daybreak_st
02-14-2010, 10:51 PM
With iron man they brought in Adi Granov, an amazing concept artist who'd worked on the Iron Man comic in the past did a great job in visulizing a more realistic look for the character. A lot of his designs were used for the film.

What concept/comic artist would you like to see brought on to help visualize the new Superman film?

My first thought is Lee Bermejo. He illustrated the Superman strip in "Wednesday's Comics" and has a more realistic take on the character than most other comic artist.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6290/bermejosuperman.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1952/bermejosuperman01.jpg

As i'd like to see more technology involved in the new film i'd also like Doug Chiang, on of the head concept artist from Star Wars Epi 1 and 2, to be brought on. He's amazing at visualizing robots.

http://www.impact-books.com/wp-content/gallery/fantasy-sci-fi/doug-chiang-standoff.jpg


Also whoever was the designer for Sonny in I-Robot, i think he'd bring some interesting ideas to Brainiac.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7fq1mm2vrl8/SI0l5125sjI/AAAAAAAAAxY/xzRudLtBUeU/s400/sci0804irobot_A.jpg

So who would like to see involved?

ChickenScratch
02-15-2010, 10:17 AM
I really like Bermejo's work at DC so I wouldnt mind him helping. A couple other names are Alex Ross, Gary Frank, Lenil Yu, Talent Caldwell (from Turner's group and did some amazing stuff in that one graphic novel in Kandor). But really, the list of DC guys who could give a good look to the world is almost as long as the amount of artists who has worked on the title.

Or out of left field, a talent like The Hilderbrandt brothers (though one is dead now) did some amazing work in their time. The Star Wars posters and novel covers are just mind blowing.

Webhead2006
02-15-2010, 01:28 PM
it would be nice if they did get some superman artists to come on board to keep the looks right for everything and help with designs.

Daybreak_st
02-15-2010, 02:53 PM
Yeah, that's what i'm saying, especially artist like Lee Bermejo, similar to how they brought in Adi Granov for iron man. I would also like to see some great scifi concept artist to tackle the various scifi elements of the story, like Krypton, Brainiac etc. Admittedly not everything that works in a comic will work on the big screen that's why i advocate only comic artists who translate well in live action. There have been some great comic artist to tackle Supes but the majority do a very "comic" exaggerated style, and i can't see adapting their take well into live action. Bermejo on the other hand, along with say alex ross, or Travis Charest, those guys have more realistic feel to their art anyway.

Beyond comic artist what other concpet artist would you like to see tackle the movie and what elements in particular. I'd love if the guys from star wars who have experience dealing with alien world's were tasked with visualizing Krypton and the fortress. I think one mandate from the director should be that the structures be functional, as in you can see how they lived on Krypton or that there is more to explore in the fortress then just one room with a console. things like that.

As far as conceptualizing the clothing design on krypton, i'm thinking Ian Macraig, he worked queen amidala's outfits (among other things) for star wars.

Also i'd love if some concept artist vs comic artist tried to reimagine some the villains, i could these guys infuse some much needed originality into some of the characters/costumes. Just look at the art of star wars books to see what i'm talking about. http://parkablogs.blogspot.com/2009/01/book-review-shadowline-art-of-iain.html (http://parkablogs.blogspot.com/2009/01/book-review-shadowline-art-of-iain.html)

SuperMike335!!
02-16-2010, 09:40 AM
Just not me personal taste in Lee Bermejo design up there.

Feels too much like it is based on the SR costume, or at least influenced by it.

Ultra low belt line, cut at that angle looks effeminate, with the diamond shaped belt buckle I'm not crazy about. The \S/ shield on the chest looks raised.

I would prefer they have a different take on the costume than re-using anything from the one in SR.

Bad Superman
02-16-2010, 09:52 AM
Bermejo, a little Byrne and lots of Alex Ross FTW.

Daybreak_st
02-16-2010, 09:58 AM
Just not me personal taste in Lee Bermejo design up there.

Feels too much like it is based on the SR costume, or at least influenced by it.

Ultra low belt line, cut at that angle looks effeminate, with the diamond shaped belt buckle I'm not crazy about. The \S/ shield on the chest looks raised.

I would prefer they have a different take on the costume than re-using anything from the one in SR.


Valid points. For the record though, Lee Bermejo came up with the design first. He illustrated a comic that came out in 2005 called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Luthor:_Man_of_Steel

in which he illustrated superman pretty much the same way but a little darker (based on the stories' context of lex luthor's view of superman). But he had all those elements their too, rased shield, etc.

I personally love his design. I don't mind a subltly raised s-shield similar to the movie spider-man's raised spider emblem. Just avoid the plasticy looking thing from Superman Returns. I agree with you on the shorts. For some reason it looks better in Bermejo's art than it did in SR, hated it there.

Mr. Earle
02-16-2010, 10:07 AM
I hate Bermejo and his leather fetish.

ChickenScratch
02-16-2010, 10:33 AM
Really? I love Lee's Batman designs, to me it's one of the best versions of the suit.

Mr. Earle
02-16-2010, 10:35 AM
Well his superman suit isnt any different from the standard superman suit. But I dont like the leathery texture it has and i HATE his batsuit.

Daybreak_st
02-16-2010, 10:55 AM
I hate Bermejo and his leather fetish.


Duly noted, any suggestions though on concept artists?

Webhead2006
02-16-2010, 12:24 PM
its not that bad of a look but i do want a nice clean looking designs and bright bold Colors in superman suit.

SuperMike335!!
02-16-2010, 04:54 PM
Valid points. For the record though, Lee Bermejo came up with the design first. He illustrated a comic that came out in 2005 called Lex Luthor: Man of Steel : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Luthor:_Man_of_Steel

in which he illustrated superman pretty much the same way but a little darker (based on the stories' context of lex luthor's view of superman). But he had all those elements their too, rased shield, etc.

I personally love his design. I don't mind a subltly raised s-shield similar to the movie spider-man's raised spider emblem. Just avoid the plasticy looking thing from Superman Returns. I agree with you on the shorts. For some reason it looks better in Bermejo's art than it did in SR, hated it there.

I'll have to check out Man of Steel.

Yeah, the ultra low cut trunks did not translate to film well.

Good point on Spiderman's costume, it was nice, there were slightly raised parts, but nothing looked like a big hunk of plastic.

Daybreak_st
02-17-2010, 08:45 AM
Another artist is Ryan Church:

http://www.ryanchurch.com/index.htm

He does amazing work, just watch the behind the scenes stuff on the Star Wars DVDs to see him in action. He's also worked on Avatar and the new Star Trek. He has plenty of experience in the SciFi genre and i think would bring a completely new/different asthetic to Krypton and alien technology in general:

http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/img/products/dvds/RCH05/artistGallery/rch_06.jpg

http://www.philcoffman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ryan_church.jpg

Heck he even did concept work on Transformers 2:

http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2272

Daybreak_st
02-17-2010, 09:09 AM
For some of the vehicle designs on krypton and other advance technology, i'd go with Scott robertson: http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2462

You'll notice he has a much brighter feel to his work which would complement superman nicely:

http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/scott_robertson_13.jpg

http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/scott_robertson_15.jpg

Mr. Earle
02-17-2010, 09:31 AM
Duly noted, any suggestions though on concept artists?Jim Lee is great when it comes to drawing cities.

Webhead2006
02-17-2010, 11:14 AM
that ryan and scott guys look to have great artwork.

Daybreak_st
02-17-2010, 11:18 AM
Yeah, they're both pretty amazing. I think it would be great to have artist like that would could really conceptualize some of the more fantastic elements that have a scifi bend, and then have more comic artists brought in to insure we don't loose the feel of the comics.

Webhead2006
02-17-2010, 11:19 AM
yup i hope they do that.

Sawyer
02-21-2010, 06:52 PM
John Cassaday did concept art for Watchmen, I think he'd make fine choice for this. :up:

The Avatar/Star Trek guy would be a great choice, as well.

Webhead2006
02-22-2010, 12:10 AM
you got any links to john cassaday's work sawyer?

Daybreak_st
02-22-2010, 08:18 AM
Here's a john cassaday illustration, that's for the suggestion:

http://comics.imakinarium.net/notis/2009/03/090310_watchmen_cassaday_hughes_jean/john_cassaday_watchmen.jpg

The second is actually adam hughes, i thought it was cassaday at first:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/photos/020309-adam-hughes-silkspectre.jpg

Daybreak_st
02-22-2010, 10:48 AM
Here's another of Cassady's i found:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/641/2006033135620.jpg

Webhead2006
02-22-2010, 01:11 PM
pretty sweet artwork there.

Daybreak_st
10-12-2010, 11:29 AM
Another artist is Ryan Meindering, he did a lot of work on Iron Man 2, nice interviews on the Blu-ray and the Art of book:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/937/0004sutmarkiv081107v001.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4576814523_55bc9b7de5.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/S0e27h2o0aI/AAAAAAAALzg/9T_ib8UYaxk/s640/newIronManArmour.jpg

Daybreak_st
10-12-2010, 11:29 AM
double post

DV8
10-12-2010, 11:50 AM
Another artist is Ryan Meindering, he did a lot of work on Iron Man 2, nice interviews on the Blu-ray and the Art of book:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/937/0004sutmarkiv081107v001.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4576814523_55bc9b7de5.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-zo/S0e27h2o0aI/AAAAAAAALzg/9T_ib8UYaxk/s640/newIronManArmour.jpg

What I wouldn't give to spend a day watching these guys work in Photoshop . . . mannnnnnn!

dark_b
10-12-2010, 11:55 AM
Neville Page for suit designe and for designing the villain.

Young Superman
10-12-2010, 12:59 PM
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I'd like Gary Frank to be the concept artist for Superman.

Daybreak_st
10-12-2010, 01:17 PM
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I'd like Gary Frank to be the concept artist for Superman.


No you won't. I started this thread and all suggestions are welcomed :yay: I will ask though why Gary Frank? I enjoyed his art in the comic but he really didn't do anything original or particularly interesting with the look of Superman. He lifted most of it from the Reeve movies down to Superman's face and expressions and of course the costume; also none of it was particularly "real world" so to speak just standard comic book costuming. I'm curious what you think he would add to the concept stage of the new film?

Young Superman
10-12-2010, 01:25 PM
I mainly want to see Frank's version Brainiac on screen.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080827033853/marvel_dc/images/2/20/Action_Comics_868.jpg

Daybreak_st
10-12-2010, 01:41 PM
Ok, yeah that's a good point. I was so stuck thinking about Superman i didn't even consider how nice his brainiac design was along with the ship etc. Good suggestion.

Kurosawa
10-12-2010, 02:01 PM
I mainly want to see Frank's version Brainiac on screen.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080827033853/marvel_dc/images/2/20/Action_Comics_868.jpg

His Brainiac is my favorite and would be awesome on screen.

Rust
10-12-2010, 03:16 PM
H.R. Giger should design Brainiac's enviroment.

DorkyFresh
10-12-2010, 09:55 PM
Neville Page for suit designe and for designing the villain.
FTW!!! his work on Tron is FANTASTIC!!!

H.R. Giger should design Brainiac's enviroment.
while i definitely want Brainiac to feel alien, H.R. Giger's style is too signature imo. everyone knows an H.R. Giger piece. i'd love to see an artist who is INFLUENCED by Giger, but i wouldn't want to see concepts from Giger HIMSELF.

Rust
10-13-2010, 08:38 AM
You're right it WOULD be too "unoriginal".

Something biomecanical though and a hive-like enviroment busy with strange sentinels created by Brainiac. Like Matrix Revolutions' Zero-One with swarm intelligent sentinels. That'd be scary.

The Sage
10-13-2010, 10:06 AM
Alex Ross
Gary Frank - I'm sure he could do a non-Reeve Superman and make it look good.
Ivan Reis
Jamal Igle