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Hobgoblin
03-01-2010, 07:20 AM
We had a fun little side conversation in the Funny Pics thread about Gremlins sinking with the Titanic. I made a wise guy comment about the little buggers soon multiplying exponentially as they fell into the waters of the north Atlantic. It would, as I said, have been the end of the world.

Others disagreed, and a debate broke out. Is birth painful for Gremlins, causing them to go into shock and drown? Would they freeze to death or would the sheer numbers outpace the death rate? Can Lois have Superman's baby? (Dont ask me how that question popped into the conversation, I dont remember.)

So here we are, film, comic book and sci fi geeks. Debate away.

I'll give you a topic: What does Godzilla eat? For such a huge animal, he doesnt have large prey to hunt. Does he somehow eat plankton, or other tiny marine life, like a whale?

Hobgoblin
03-01-2010, 08:12 AM
Or another scenario: Could a Terminator be used as a battery by the Matrix?

Shemtov
03-01-2010, 08:20 AM
who would win?:
Mary Poppins Vs. Freddy Krueger

The Incredible Hulk
03-01-2010, 08:21 AM
Isn't Godzilla like one big nuclear reactor? In which case, he'd generate his own energy and wouldn't really need to eat.

As for the Terminator scenario, I guess if he generates heat he could be a battery. Wasn't that the premise of using the humans in the matrix? basically the heat their bodies generated was used to power the matrix. Although considering he's a machine anyway, wouldnt he be more useful to the Matrix in being used to hunt down humans?

Rain
03-01-2010, 08:23 AM
We had a fun little side conversation in the Funny Pics thread about Gremlins sinking with the Titanic. I made a wise guy comment about the little buggers soon multiplying exponentially as they fell into the waters of the north Atlantic. It would, as I said, have been the end of the world.

Others disagreed, and a debate broke out. Is birth painful for Gremlins, causing them to go into shock and drown? Would they freeze to death or would the sheer numbers outpace the death rate? Can Lois have Superman's baby? (Dont ask me how that question popped into the conversation, I dont remember.)

So here we are, film, comic book and sci fi geeks. Debate away.

I'll give you a topic: What does Godzilla eat? For such a huge animal, he doesnt have large prey to hunt. Does he somehow eat plankton, or other tiny marine life, like a whale?

Alot of fish. :oldrazz:

The Apocalypse
03-01-2010, 08:23 AM
We had a fun little side conversation in the Funny Pics thread about Gremlins sinking with the Titanic. I made a wise guy comment about the little buggers soon multiplying exponentially as they fell into the waters of the north Atlantic. It would, as I said, have been the end of the world.

Others disagreed, and a debate broke out. Is birth painful for Gremlins, causing them to go into shock and drown? Would they freeze to death or would the sheer numbers outpace the death rate? Can Lois have Superman's baby? (Dont ask me how that question popped into the conversation, I dont remember.)

So here we are, film, comic book and sci fi geeks. Debate away.

I'll give you a topic: What does Godzilla eat? For such a huge animal, he doesnt have large prey to hunt. Does he somehow eat plankton, or other tiny marine life, like a whale?

Personally, I think Lois's vagina would never be the same if Supes impregnated her.

who would win?:
Mary Poppins Vs. Freddy Krueger

....Batman, with prep time.

[A]
03-01-2010, 08:28 AM
Batman needs no prep-time.

Immortalfire
03-01-2010, 08:37 AM
What does Godzilla eat?


Anything he wants. :awesome:

B
03-01-2010, 09:06 AM
When Superman takes a piss or has a sex wee, assuming of course his superstrength involves every muscle, does his pee/load shoot with the same power as say.. a fire hose?

:D

the_ultimate_evil
03-01-2010, 09:14 AM
Alot of fish. :oldrazz:

DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL:cmad:

WompuM
03-01-2010, 09:16 AM
Ok, so let's think about the universe. Galaxies are moving away from each other. In each galaxy, let's say the Milky Way, branches of stars are orbiting around the massive center. In these branches, the stars themselves are moving away from each other. Around these stars, our sun for instance, planets are orbiting at an incredible speed. These planets are rotating on their axises. So, at any moment, you are moving at an unbelievable pace through space and when you think about it, you never occupy the same space more than once.

And yet, when Marty pushes the DeLorean up to 88 mph, and causes the time machine to travel through time, not space, he ends up in the same relative spot on Earth instead of floating through that same spot in empty space where the Earth was not in 1955.

Why?

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 09:24 AM
Isn't Godzilla like one big nuclear reactor? In which case, he'd generate his own energy and wouldn't really need to eat. Biologically impossible.

The Incredible Hulk
03-01-2010, 09:33 AM
Biologically impossible.

Tell that to the Japanese.

Bad Supe's Girl
03-01-2010, 09:39 AM
Personally, I think Lois's vagina would never be the same if Supes impregnated her.
BEST POST I'VE READ IN A LOOOOOOOONG TIME :up:
Can I quote you for my sigline? :p

When Superman takes a piss or has a sex wee, assuming of course his superstrength involves every muscle, does his pee/load shoot with the same power as say.. a fire hose?

:D

:lmao:

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 09:55 AM
Tell that to the Japanese.The better debate would be whether Godzilla could walk on land as a biped at 300-ft tall or some ridiculous height. But then I guess if you throw magical radiation into the mix (the same radiation that made him 300-ft tall and able to breathe fire, basically) you can't really debate it lol.

Shemtov
03-01-2010, 09:57 AM
Personally, I think Lois's vagina would never be the same if Supes impregnated her.




Actually, the force of his ejaculation will probably tear her lower torso apart.

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 10:00 AM
Thor's thought long and hard about this. :up:

WompuM
03-01-2010, 10:07 AM
What happens when a zombie bites a terminator?

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 10:10 AM
Ok, so let's think about the universe. Galaxies are moving away from each other. In each galaxy, let's say the Milky Way, branches of stars are orbiting around the massive center. In these branches, the stars themselves are moving away from each other. Around these stars, our sun for instance, planets are orbiting at an incredible speed. These planets are rotating on their axises. So, at any moment, you are moving at an unbelievable pace through space and when you think about it, you never occupy the same space more than once.

And yet, when Marty pushes the DeLorean up to 88 mph, and causes the time machine to travel through time, not space, he ends up in the same relative spot on Earth instead of floating through that same spot in empty space where the Earth was not in 1955.

Why?....because then Marty would be dead, and the movie would be like 15 minutes long.

What happens when a zombie bites a terminator?I wonder whether his flesh would start rotting away. Wouldn't affect his operation, though.

[A]
03-01-2010, 10:13 AM
The title should be about movie plots/ideas -- not fandom ideas..

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 10:14 AM
I'll give you a topic: What does Godzilla eat? For such a huge animal, he doesnt have large prey to hunt.Oh, no....the Japanese finally hunted whales into extinction? :csad:

PyroChamber
03-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Can Doc Ock run?

Either we walks on his own two feet or the tentacles walk for him, but can he actually run on his own?

Kirmit
03-01-2010, 10:47 AM
About the Gremlins, was it ever confirmed salt water had the same effect on them?

Shemtov
03-01-2010, 10:48 AM
And even if Lois survived, her body would treat the supersperm like a virus.

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 10:50 AM
About the Gremlins, was it ever confirmed salt water had the same effect on them?I'm not sure why it wouldn't. The pool was chlorinated.

C. Lee
03-01-2010, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure why it wouldn't. The pool was chlorinated.

chlorine is not salt.

Drakon
03-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Ka-bookmarking so I can respond after work.

Carcharodon
03-01-2010, 11:47 AM
chlorine is not salt.I guess I assumed that we would be talking about chloride, but maybe the chlorine in pools doesn't exist in an ionized state. That would be logical, since organisms that live in a marine environment don't seem to be affected all that much by the chloride present in sea water...but would presumably be killed by the chlorine in pools. At least microorganisms, anyway.

EDIT: Ah, I see. Chlorinating the pools leads to the creation of hypochlorous acid. However, why would the Gremlins be more affected by inert ions in aqueous solution when the chlorinated pool environment had no ill-effect? Are we discussing this purely as a matter of ionic concentration? What is the relative ionic concentration of a chlorinated pool compared to the ocean? The ocean is at an approximate concentration of, like, 35 ppt.

WompuM
03-01-2010, 12:05 PM
See, I thought the same thing about zombie-terminator, except what if it was a T-800 model that specialized in infiltration, and having living skin was a part of it's core function, and must repair any damages so it can continue its mission. Then, when infected w/ zombieism, it is in a state of flux, that no matter how much it keeps repairing its skin, say by eating the flesh of other living things, it keeps rotting and dieing, throwing its operational system into an infinite loop, thereby creating a zombie-terminator.

Majik1387
03-01-2010, 12:43 PM
I don't know why but I like this thread.:yay:

WompuM
03-01-2010, 02:10 PM
What's not to like?

huskerwebhead
03-01-2010, 02:11 PM
The most awesome and most sad fanboy scenario debate I've ever participated in was the Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate. Basically, who would win in a space battle. Could Star Destroyer's withstand a borg cube? How would the Enterprise do against a squad of X-Wings. How would Starfleet fair against the Death Star? Obviously, Star Trek's technology would clean the Star Wars Universe's clock.

WompuM
03-01-2010, 02:17 PM
You think so? Star Wars is more like the Air Force where Star Trek is more like the Navy. Sure, trek has heavier arms, but SW has speed and maneuverability. Each Star Destroyer alone is packed to the brim with TIE fighters, bombers, interceptors, etc. Sure, a Borg cube is a monumental threat, but I don't think it would stand a chance against the Death Star.

AndThePickles
03-01-2010, 02:23 PM
Who would win in an epic dwarf battle? Thorin with Orcrist, or Gimli with his axe? (LOTR nerd stuff)

huskerwebhead
03-01-2010, 02:50 PM
OK....here we go. :D

It's mostly a technology thing. Trek tech is far beyond SW tech in many areas. Take transporters for example. The ability to transport troops to an enemy ship, or worse yet, an explosive device, would end most confrontations rather quickly. Warp speed is far superior and more configurable. For example, changing destination in mid warp or doing short warp bursts

You're only thinking about ships such as the Enterprise. Keep in mind that just within Starfleet you have many variations on ship size and firepower. Take the small Runabouts...small, maneuverable, not the most powerful. But you also have ships like the Defiant. Small, maneuverable, powerful, and cloaking capabilities. It would have no problems keeping up or bettering SW level ship. Klingon ships are all built for high maneuverability and high firepower.

Shields are also far more powerful in the ST universe than in the SW world. I doubt lasers from any small tie fighter or X-wing would even cause damage to ST shields. Whereas phasers, plasma beams, or disruptors would likely obliterate most small SW ships quickly.

As far as the Borg goes against the Death Star. I agree. One hit by the main cannon and it's toast. But in the event that at least a few borg are beamed aboard the death star, it's just a matter of assimilation taking it's course.

Aesop Rocks
03-01-2010, 02:52 PM
Han Solo vs Greedo

Who shoots first?

huskerwebhead
03-01-2010, 02:58 PM
Han Solo vs Greedo

Who shoots first?

HAN!!! Always!! :cmad::cmad:

SuperFerret
03-01-2010, 02:59 PM
Who would win in an epic dwarf battle? Thorin with Orcrist, or Gimli with his axe? (LOTR nerd stuff)

Thorin should be ashamed of himself. What self-respecting dwarf uses an elfin weapon?

Bah, give me a non-enchanted, but dwarf-made, battleaxe any day than a thin, little blade forged by some pointy-eared, metrosexual, hippy surface fairies.

[A]
03-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Oh the Greedo s**t.. Stupid George Lucas. Stupid, stupid Lucas..

The Apocalypse
03-01-2010, 03:22 PM
BEST POST I'VE READ IN A LOOOOOOOONG TIME :up:
Can I quote you for my sigline? :p



:lmao:

Please do. :woot:

AndThePickles
03-01-2010, 03:24 PM
Thorin should be ashamed of himself. What self-respecting dwarf uses an elfin weapon?

Bah, give me a non-enchanted, but dwarf-made, battleaxe any day than a thin, little blade forged by some pointy-eared, metrosexual, hippy surface fairies.

Whoa whoa whoa, it's a thin, but STRONG and long blade that could probably chop through a regular axe. And it can warn you when orcs are around! And it doesn't grow dull or rust.

C. Lee
03-01-2010, 03:24 PM
Han shoots Greedo first, who while dieing gets off a wild shot and blows off Thorin's head, as he falls he stabs the laughing Gimli who is now mortally wounded, luckily a passing Borg ship arrives and absorbs him into the collective, on the Borg ship he runs into a Terminator (who hasn't been absorbed because they think he is already a Borg due to all of his exposed metal parts), the Terminator in his quest to kill John, Sara, Bart, anyone named Connor hotwires the transporter and arrived in Gotham City just in time to meld with the Joker ala Brundlefly, in his haste and hunger he tries to eat Dent but only manages to regurgitate his acid on half of him, turning him into two face and thus leaving Rachel alive, this causes Bruce to consider giving up being Batman so that he can live a life of peace with her....if he could only decide between the Katie or Maggie Rachel......

Aesop Rocks
03-01-2010, 03:28 PM
It's brilliant.

Figs
03-01-2010, 04:13 PM
Han shoots Greedo first, who while dieing gets off a wild shot and blows off Orcrist's head, as he falls he stabs the laughing Gimli who is now mortally wounded, luckily a passing Borg ship arrives and absorbs him into the collective, on the Borg ship he runs into a Terminator (who hasn't been absorbed because they think he is already a Borg due to all of his exposed metal parts), the Terminator in his quest to kill John, Sara, Bart, anyone named Connor hotwires the transporter and arrived in Gotham City just in time to meld with the Joker ala Brundlefly, in his haste and hunger he tries to eat Dent but only manages to regurgitate his acid on half of him, turning him into two face and thus leaving Rachel alive, this causes Bruce to consider giving up being Batman so that he can live a life of peace with her....if he could only decide between the Katie or Maggie Rachel......

Close thread. This is about as awesome as you can get.

SuperFerret
03-01-2010, 04:38 PM
Whoa whoa whoa, it's a thin, but STRONG and long blade that could probably chop through a regular axe. And it can warn you when orcs are around! And it doesn't grow dull or rust.

Bah, who needs a fancy blade t' warn ye when orcs're around? Vile things stink to the Seven Heavens, ye'd have t' be daft t' not smell 'em 'fore they come rushin' in, tryin' t' pretend that they know the first thing about combat.

An' no dwarven axe is a "regular" axe. Dwarves build things t' last generations, and they live at least five lifetimes of a man. No blade made by elves can match a dwarf-forged, masterwork weapon.



God, I need to find a D&D group again. :csad:

SuperFerret
03-01-2010, 04:42 PM
Close thread. This is about as awesome as you can get.

It would be, except that Orcrist is a sword, and has no head.

AndThePickles
03-01-2010, 04:43 PM
I seem to recall something from one of Tolkien's books where a dwarf axe split and an elvish blade didn't. But since I can't remember the specifics, I'm not quite sure how to respond to your roleplay, haha

SuperFerret
03-01-2010, 04:59 PM
Brottor (my dwarf paladin) has become as much a part of who I am as SuperFerret is, and he's got a tendency to slip out from time to time.

Figs
03-01-2010, 04:59 PM
It would be, except that Orcrist is a sword, and has no head.

:dry:

I think the rest of what he typed and linked together overrides one little incorrect fact about LotR(or is it D&D?).

SuperFerret
03-01-2010, 05:03 PM
You'd think so, but it doesn't.

It's Tolkien, so LotR is close enough, though the Rings Trilogy and the Hobbit had a huge hand in D&D's creation, so it's all the same basically.

Figs
03-01-2010, 05:15 PM
You'd think so, but it doesn't.

It's Tolkien, so LotR is close enough,though the Rings Trilogy and the Hobbit had a huge hand in D&D's creation, so it's all the same basically.

:cmad::csad:

the_ultimate_evil
03-01-2010, 05:25 PM
Brottor (my dwarf paladin) has become as much a part of who I am as SuperFerret is, and he's got a tendency to slip out from time to time.

don't you hate it when your dwarf slips out unintentionally.:woot:

AndThePickles
03-01-2010, 05:32 PM
:dry:

I think the rest of what he typed and linked together overrides one little incorrect fact about LotR(or is it D&D?).

LOL the whole point of this thread is for fanboys, who OBSESS over the details! Silly silly

But it's a fact about The Hobbit. I know nothing of D&D.

The Apocalypse
03-02-2010, 08:57 AM
Sometimes when I'm laying down to sleep I wonder what it's like to be inside a Pokeball. Do you think it's just complete, utter darkness or a raging party?

Bad Superman
03-02-2010, 09:09 AM
Sometimes when I'm laying down to sleep I wonder what it's like to be inside a Pokeball. Do you think it's just complete, utter darkness or a raging party?

It is clear there's a raging party. Just take a look at all the lights, rays and crazy music that ensues when one of those are set loose.


:oldrazz:

Speedball
03-02-2010, 09:11 AM
Sometimes when I'm laying down to sleep I wonder what it's like to be inside a Pokeball. Do you think it's just complete, utter darkness or a raging party?
I bet it creates an entire world to adapt to whatever the Pokemon needs or wants. If it wants it to be a giant party, then it'll be a party. Water pokemon would want like an aquarium, Hitmonchan would want a gym.
It's like an adaptable TARDIS.

C. Lee
03-02-2010, 09:13 AM
It would be, except that Orcrist is a sword, and has no head.

I wrote it with a screaming 3 year old pulling on my arm....so excuse me if I was distracted and put the wrong name down....it has been corrected.

AndThePickles
03-02-2010, 10:06 AM
If you train that screamer properly, they too can become an obsessive fanboy or fangirl!

Metamorpho1977
03-02-2010, 10:51 AM
;18114290']Batman needs no prep-time.

because Batman cheats

Paradoxium
03-02-2010, 11:08 AM
Hahah no said: "Batman vs. Superman" ?

Bad Supe's Girl
03-02-2010, 11:10 AM
Please do. :woot:

Thanks! ;)

Metamorpho1977
03-02-2010, 11:17 AM
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KevanG
03-02-2010, 04:05 PM
Well, whatcha gonna do? :p

The Apocalypse
03-02-2010, 04:26 PM
It is clear there's a raging party. Just take a look at all the lights, rays and crazy music that ensues when one of those are set loose.


:oldrazz:

This is usually the conclusion I come to but that's only because it helps me sleep better.

I bet it creates an entire world to adapt to whatever the Pokemon needs or wants. If it wants it to be a giant party, then it'll be a party. Water pokemon would want like an aquarium, Hitmonchan would want a gym.
It's like an adaptable TARDIS.

This though is probably the right answer. It begs the question though, what would those rock Pokemon have. They seem so boring and emotionless. We don't count Machop, Machoke and Machamp because they were just made of harden clay..not rock. :cwink:

Silvermoth
03-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Sometimes when I'm laying down to sleep I wonder what it's like to be inside a Pokeball. Do you think it's just complete, utter darkness or a raging party?

I always thought it would look similar to a less mardi gras version of Jeannie's bottle from "I dream of Jeannie".

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9949/1169431296.jpg

Sam Fisher
03-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Or another scenario: Could a Terminator be used as a battery by the Matrix?
The T1000 would kill Agent Smith.

Manic
03-02-2010, 09:39 PM
And even if Lois survived, her body would treat the supersperm like a virus.
Wouldn't that be moot, since sperm dies out in a week or two?

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 07:17 AM
Penny Arcade tells us that a pokeball is a dark, cold place that turns Pokemon into mother****ers....because when you're in a big match..what do you want coming out?? a nice relaxed Pokemon whos tired from partying or an angry mother****er??

MessiahDecoy123
03-03-2010, 08:01 AM
The T1000 would kill Agent Smith.
Agent Smith is a mental image. He doesn't exist in the physical world.

Killing him would be like killing Freddy Krueger.

Aesop Rocks
03-03-2010, 08:03 AM
Well pull him out of your computer ya big silly!

Bad Superman
03-03-2010, 08:16 AM
Agent Smith is a mental image. He doesn't exist in the physical world.

Killing him would be like killing Freddy Krueger.

In that case Smith would win since he's a mental image. T1000 would point his weapon of choice to his head and blow his head off.

Manic
03-03-2010, 10:51 AM
Oh, for goodness sake.

T1000 is a physical machine, and Smith is a computer program that exists solely within the Matrix. In order for the two to meet, T1000 would have to integrate its programming into the Matrix. Once there, T1000's abilities would be limited due to the laws of physics programmed into the Matrix. If the two met and fought, Smith could pummel T1000 until he died (ie. his programming would be corrupted and destroyed). If T1000 won the fight, Smith could just pop up in a new body. If we're talking about Reloaded/Revolutions Smith, then T1000 would become Smith.

There.

Metamorpho1977
03-03-2010, 12:31 PM
Penny Arcade tells us that a pokeball is a dark, cold place that turns Pokemon into mother****ers....because when you're in a big match..what do you want coming out?? a nice relaxed Pokemon whos tired from partying or an angry mother****er??

What happens in a Pokeball??? Wonder no more.

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Speedball
03-03-2010, 12:39 PM
Does anyone else think that skynet and the terminators were the starting point for the Matrix?
edit - I mean if they existed in the same universe.

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 12:49 PM
No...skynet wouldn't bother with humans, they didn't need us for anything save for experiments....in Matrix land, they needed people for battery power

MessiahDecoy123
03-03-2010, 04:29 PM
No...skynet wouldn't bother with humans, they didn't need us for anything save for experiments....in Matrix land, they needed people for battery power
The war with terminators could've evolved into the matrix.

What caused the matrix machines to turn to humans as a power source was when humans, as an act of war, blotted out the sun. That could've easily happened in the Terminator universe.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 04:37 PM
If the Terminators were solar-powered.

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 04:50 PM
which they aren't...they run on those hydrogen cell thingies that have a 500 year half life or some **** like that

KevanG
03-03-2010, 06:25 PM
For the Matrix movies, even before I read what the script writers (the whatchamacallem Bros.) originally thought of for it, which was neural power as opposed to body heat, I've always thought that the body heat idea was stupid. The body heat exchange for what is normally released is a huge loss from what they would need. Neural power is alot easier to imagine as they already have full access to our minds for the matrix.

Spider-Vader
03-03-2010, 06:35 PM
Isn't Godzilla like one big nuclear reactor? In which case, he'd generate his own energy and wouldn't really need to eat.

As for the Terminator scenario, I guess if he generates heat he could be a battery. Wasn't that the premise of using the humans in the matrix? basically the heat their bodies generated was used to power the matrix. Although considering he's a machine anyway, wouldnt he be more useful to the Matrix in being used to hunt down humans?


Terminator isn't one person, so it should be 'They'. :cmad::cmad::cmad:

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 06:41 PM
Terminator isn't a person, so it should be 'It'. :cmad::cmad::cmad:

Spider-Vader
03-03-2010, 06:42 PM
BUT IT HAS HUMAN SKIN!!! & the one from T2, had emotions....sorta.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 06:53 PM
Still an it.

KevanG
03-03-2010, 06:55 PM
But no individual identity, except maybe serial number. :p Skyney exists as one identity, the other machines are mostly just extensions of that. There are certain exceptions though, The T-800 Prototype from Salvation. So I guess it's a kinds/sorta deal with this. I blame the time travel.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 07:00 PM
Is it really human skin? I thought it was just human-like. Actual human skin would make it lame.

KevanG
03-03-2010, 07:03 PM
It's vat grown with the Blood, hair, ect. It's not like they flay people for it and sew it on. They explain with a bit more detail in the TV show.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 07:08 PM
I'll believe what I want to believe then. No need for me to go outside the original material to ask non-existent questions that aren't brought up there.

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 07:11 PM
arnold even explains in T2 that its manufactured human skin

Shemtov
03-03-2010, 07:54 PM
Wouldn't that be moot, since sperm dies out in a week or two?
No. The sperm would have superpowers.
How long out of sunlight does it take Superman to be totaally poweless?
The Zygotes, being charged while Kal-el's Testicles, would have superpowers for that period, until the sunlessness of Lois' birth canal makes them tottally weak, and THEN the 2 weeks start.
Being of a totally alien species, the body would reject them. Of course being superpowered, Lois's immune system would be unable to handle they were weak enough. Lois's only recourse would be too take a Kryptonite douche.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:03 PM
I hope Lois's birth canal is sunless.

Hobgoblin
03-03-2010, 08:09 PM
I still dont understand how Lois can even try to carry Kal-El's kid. They are wo different species. Even Wonder Woman, a la the "Mallrats" argument, couldnt carry Kal Jr. She may be strong enough but she isnt really even a biological creature (as I understand it).

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:12 PM
Different species can breed in very rare occasions. In all likelihood, if fertilization takes place AND if the fetus survives gestation, it would be sterile, like a mule or liger.

Shemtov
03-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Different species can breed in very rare occasions. In all likelihood, if fertilization takes place AND if the fetus survives gestation, it would be sterile, like a mule or liger.
IF they are from the same planet.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:24 PM
Who's to say that that's not the case? Obviously, Connor Kent shows that human and Kryptonian DNA is compatible, so I'd say that particular crossbreed is definitely possible within the realm of the DCU.

Next question!

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 08:27 PM
but Connor is a product of very structured genetic engineering

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:32 PM
And biological fertilization isn't very structured? I'm not saying that Clark will knock Lois up every time, but seeing as how every fertilization is basically a one-in-a-million shot, it's believable if DC decided to give them a kid.

Sam Fisher
03-03-2010, 08:48 PM
Bourne vs. Bond: Who would win?

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
Godzilla.

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
DC shouldn't be retarded and give them a kid, where would they find the time to properly raise it

Majik1387
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
Bond.

He's got ths skills, the gadgets, the cars, the women, the better movies and because Bourne sucks.

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:51 PM
DC shouldn't be retarded and give them a kid, where would they find the time to properly raise it

They'll raise it in those little white lines between panels, same place where they bathe, sleep, eat, and crap.

BlackLantern
03-03-2010, 08:57 PM
you want to see Lois crap, don't you??


sicko

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 08:59 PM
No, I don't.

Manic
03-03-2010, 09:33 PM
No. The sperm would have superpowers.
How long out of sunlight does it take Superman to be totaally poweless?
The Zygotes, being charged while Kal-el's Testicles, would have superpowers for that period, until the sunlessness of Lois' birth canal makes them tottally weak, and THEN the 2 weeks start.
Being of a totally alien species, the body would reject them. Of course being superpowered, Lois's immune system would be unable to handle they were weak enough. Lois's only recourse would be too take a Kryptonite douche.
Ah, but who's to say his sperm would be super for very long? Kryptonian kids and teenagers aren't even that strong. Why would Clark's sperm sustain superpowers for very long in the womb? His sperm might live, what, a day or two longer than human sperm? Woo hoo.


I still dont understand how Lois can even try to carry Kal-El's kid. They are wo different species. Even Wonder Woman, a la the "Mallrats" argument, couldnt carry Kal Jr. She may be strong enough but she isnt really even a biological creature (as I understand it).
Hey, Clark wouldn't be the first alien to mate with an Earth human. Adam Strange got it on with an alien woman, and they had a kid.

Wonder Woman might've been born from clay, but she's magic. In Greek mythology, people made of weird s*** had kids all the time. Hell, Donna Troy had a son, and she's just Wonder Woman's copy (also created by magic). She could have Superman's kid. Even better, they could inseminate Lois' egg and ask Wonder Woman to act as a surrogate.

DC shouldn't be retarded and give them a kid, where would they find the time to properly raise it
Are you kidding? Plenty of superheroes find the time to raise their kids. Wally West has two. They can take care of the kids when they're not at work and when Clark isn't fighting evil. If they're both busy, they know a ton of people who could handle their kids. Clark's mom, Power Girl or any member of the Justice Society, Wonder Woman, Dick Grayson (so long as he can assure Clark that Damian won't kill it), the list goes on. Besides, it'd only be a matter of time before they found a way to rapidly age their kid to his/her pre-teens.

Speedball
03-03-2010, 11:17 PM
I always found the Bond vs. Bourne debate more plausible than stuff like Superman vs. Batman.
One is a rogue agent trying to get away from his old life, while the other is a loyal agent fighting for queen and country.
Bond could be sent after Bourne... but would Bond actually capture him?

Majik1387
03-03-2010, 11:21 PM
I always found the Bond vs. Bourne debate more plausible than stuff like Superman vs. Batman.
One is a rogue agent trying to get away from his old life, while the other is a loyal agent fighting for queen and country.
Bond could be sent after Bourne... but would Bond actually capture him?
Yes

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 11:26 PM
I already answered the Bond v. Bourne debate. You guys always forget the Godzilla factor.

Majik1387
03-03-2010, 11:28 PM
Godzilla factor?

SuperFerret
03-03-2010, 11:31 PM
The Godzilla factor is simple. It states simply: Godzilla is always present in hypothetical situations, and therefore wins.

Speedball
03-04-2010, 12:00 AM
Yes

Why would he though? Bond would eventually learn what the Americans did to him to make him the way he is. And he isn't a threat really. He's not some madman hell bent on taking over the world, or destroying the British economy.
Bond isn't one to go into something half-cocked. He analyzes the situation fully. Even though M said that he wants him to throw his ego to the side, he still has one, it's a defining part of his character.
I think he'd let Bourne go, once he fully knows the situation.
Now in a fight... jesus... I'd say Bourne would win actually. Bourne has a lot of stuff he does that he doesn't actually realize he does. It's instinct for him. He's not really in full control of himself. He's programmed to win. Bond isn't. He might have training, but not in the way Bourne has.
(and just saying Bourne would lose because he sucks isn't a legit reason. Your personal feelings can't really factor into here).

Silvermoth
03-04-2010, 12:02 AM
Here's a noodle scratcher, say they announce the leads of Captain America and Superman on the same day at the exact same time. The resulting fangasm kills all geeks on the planet.

What happens to planet Earth?

Speedball
03-04-2010, 12:05 AM
Here's a noodle scratcher, say they announce the leads of Captain America and Superman on the same day at the exact same time. The resulting fangasm kills all geeks on the planet.

What happens to planet Earth?

We should build some kind of geekgasm energy collector. That day would be able to power the earth for awhile, depending on who it is.

Majik1387
03-04-2010, 12:06 AM
The Godzilla factor is simple. It states simply: Godzilla is always present in hypothetical situations, and therefore wins.
Interesting. I've been trying to think of a way to incorporate Godzilla into a mashup idea of mine, and this somehow helped. Thanks?:yay::huh::awesome:
Why would he though? Bond would eventually learn what the Americans did to him to make him the way he is. And he isn't a threat really. He's not some madman hell bent on taking over the world, or destroying the British economy.
Bond isn't one to go into something half-cocked. He analyzes the situation fully. Even though M said that he wants him to throw his ego to the side, he still has one, it's a defining part of his character.
I think he'd let Bourne go, once he fully knows the situation.
Now in a fight... jesus... I'd say Bourne would win actually. Bourne has a lot of stuff he does that he doesn't actually realize he does. It's instinct for him. He's not really in full control of himself. He's programmed to win. Bond isn't. He might have training, but not in the way Bourne has.
(and just saying Bourne would lose because he sucks isn't a legit reason. Your personal feelings can't really factor into here).
Simply put, Bond always gets the job done no matter what. Bourne isn't that much more of a threat than any of Bond's other adversaries, hence he wins.

That or Godzilla eats them both.

Here's a noodle scratcher...

Say they deceide to cast the leads of Captain America and Superman on the same day. The resulting fangasm kills all geeks on the planet.

What happens to planet Earth?
It will be a peaceful place until the new form of geek is born.

The Apocalypse
03-04-2010, 06:16 AM
Here's a noodle scratcher, say they announce the leads of Captain America and Superman on the same day at the exact same time. The resulting fangasm kills all geeks on the planet.

What happens to planet Earth?

But God doesn't exist! :oldrazz:

Bad Superman
03-04-2010, 07:49 AM
Bourne vs. Bond: Who would win?

The Saint

Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 08:13 AM
I found this and I...I...I...

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5044/1267685765186.jpg

Bad Supe's Girl
03-04-2010, 08:18 AM
:funny:

That's Awesome :up:

Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 08:31 AM
I guess Hawk-Man can be Thor

And that other dude can be Mr. Fantastic

:o

Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 08:32 AM
double

Manic
03-04-2010, 08:58 AM
Black Canary could be Mockingbird. Considering they're both martial artists and Green Arrow is Hawkeye, the comparison fits way too well.

matrix_ghost
03-04-2010, 09:20 AM
Bourne vs. Bond: Who would win?
Bond.
The bad guy hits his testicles with a thick piece of rope and he still manages to crack jokes.

= WIN

TheDreamMaster
03-04-2010, 09:57 AM
No...skynet wouldn't bother with humans, they didn't need us for anything save for experiments....in Matrix land, they needed people for battery power
Unless of course even Skynet started running out of resources. I mean even if a long time from that point, their nuclear resources may be dwindling, and with what seems like a still surging human population hiding somewhere, it could be a viable option.

The Apocalypse
03-04-2010, 10:16 AM
I found this and I...I...I...

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5044/1267685765186.jpg

BLASPHEMY! *runs away*

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 10:16 AM
Black Canary could be Mockingbird. Considering they're both blonde, leggy martial artists with a bird-themed identity and Green Arrow is Hawkeye, the comparison fits way too well.

Edited to add more detail and strengthen the comparison.

Aesop Rocks
03-04-2010, 10:19 AM
I wonder how many people that picture pissed off. :p

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 10:22 AM
I'm merely annoyed by the fact that they didn't finish it, and that some of the comparisons are very off.

Also, Ralph is totally checking out Dinah's ass.

Manic
03-04-2010, 12:29 PM
I'm merely annoyed by the fact that they didn't finish it, and that some of the comparisons are very off.

Also, Ralph is totally checking out Dinah's ass.

Yeah, there are a few missed opportunities in there. Zatanna as Scarlet Witch, Hawkman as Falcon, Black Canary as Mockingbird, I guess Elongated Man as Mr. Fantastic.

As for the off comparisons, the one that gets me is Green Lantern as Iron Man. That is waaayyy off. Even more off base than Batman as Daredevil.

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 04:09 PM
Batman and Daredevil have a lot in common. Firestorm as the Human Torch is the worst. It shows a complete lack of knowledge about either character.

KevanG
03-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Zantanna could be Scarlet witch.

Manic
03-04-2010, 08:16 PM
Batman and Daredevil have a lot in common. Firestorm as the Human Torch is the worst. It shows a complete lack of knowledge about either character.

I didn't even notice that. Doesn't Firestorm have the power to transform stuff into other stuff? It's like the person who did that doesn't even read DC. No wonder they missed calling Zatanna Scarlet Witch. I mean, who misses that ****ing obvious opportunity?

BlackLantern
03-04-2010, 08:19 PM
is Firestorm that important to even debate??

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 08:27 PM
He's more important than Batman.

BlackLantern
03-04-2010, 08:29 PM
riiiiight

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 08:31 PM
Can Batman change the oxygen in your lungs into lead?

BlackLantern
03-04-2010, 08:32 PM
but Jason/Ronnie/whoever the hell is in there this week is too much of a wussball to do that anyway

SuperFerret
03-04-2010, 08:33 PM
This week he's undead, and he recently turned that girl into salt.

BlackLantern
03-04-2010, 08:35 PM
she kinda deserved it

Spider-Vader
03-04-2010, 09:12 PM
Shouldn't that picture be the other way since most of the characters were created & popular before their Marvel equivalents? :o

BlackLantern
03-04-2010, 09:15 PM
probably....but that would make sense...not to mention the fact that the Justice League was established quite some time before the Aveners were

The Lizard
03-05-2010, 12:31 PM
The thing that always irks me about the presence of near-omnipotent characters in superhero comics is that they're never really used correctly. Like when there's some Secret Wars type scenario where a bunch of heroes are attacking Galactus or whatever. Why are Galactus' powers shown in comics as being energy bolts or robots that pop up out of nowhere? If Galactus can control the space/time continuum and convert matter at will, then he's already defeated you before you even make the decision to attack him.

That's why I prefer my villains to be the street-level types seen in the Spidey or Batman rogues' galleries.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 02:18 PM
taking a Xenemorph from the Alien franchise...

With Zombie specifics to be determined (as there are so many of them to choose from)

ruling out Infected (as they are alive thereby Not Zombies)

is this theoretically a possibility?

thoughts?

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 02:20 PM
Xenomorphs are based off of ants and wasps in their behaviour, so it's safe to assume that like certain wasps, their larva need to gestate in a living host.

Figs
10-13-2010, 02:21 PM
I doubt it considering the assumption that the baby feeds of you in some way to actually grow larger. Maybe they don't need to feed off you(blood maybe) but if they do zombies aren't alive thus their tissue is dead and rotting.

That's just my BS guess.

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 02:21 PM
Zombie Xenomorph!

terry78
10-13-2010, 02:27 PM
See, now THIS is the type of thread we need more of on here. None of that socially conscious stuff anymore. We're nerds, dammit.

chaseter
10-13-2010, 02:46 PM
What if an Alien face hugger went onto an anaconda? What about a horse? What about a gorilla?

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 02:50 PM
What if an Alien face hugger went onto an anaconda? What about a horse? What about a gorilla?

They take on the attributes of the host.

Check this out, kinda the same discussion.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=30903472

chaseter
10-13-2010, 02:54 PM
I know...but what would they look like?

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 02:55 PM
What would they look like?

I don't know, but it would be ****ing awesome.:o

the_ultimate_evil
10-13-2010, 02:56 PM
I love the internet, it's there to prove all that random crazy **** you think of, isn't just thought of by you

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 02:58 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3358/3621264300_0dbdb7a72f.jpg?v=0

Gorilla

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kz4qrcqmvJ1qakqwho1_400.jpg

Horse

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l79p1nbk051qa1o5zo1_500.jpg

Snake

chaseter
10-13-2010, 03:03 PM
AHA! Someone is as crazy as me.

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 03:06 PM
Yup!

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 03:09 PM
The Predator riding a Xenomorph horse!?:eek:

Someone kill me now. Nothing I ever see will be as cool.:csad: We have peaked as a race.

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 03:11 PM
The Predator riding a Xenomorph horse!?:eek:

Someone kill me now. Nothing I ever see will be as cool.:csad: We have peaked as a race.

:lmao:

Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 03:12 PM
or how about this:

could a zombie infect a xenomorph?

THE MR. TERRIFIC
10-13-2010, 03:13 PM
or how about this:

could a zombie infect a xenomorph?

I don't think so. Acid blood would pretty much KILL any infection known to man. I would expect that to include a zombie virus!

Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 03:18 PM
I don't think so. Acid blood would pretty much KILL any infection known to man. I would expect that to include a zombie virus!


way to kill my cool idea, Cool Idea Killer!

:argh:

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 03:18 PM
What if it wasn't a virus? Not every zombie fiction is set in science fiction.

Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 03:19 PM
What if it wasn't a virus? Not every zombie fiction is set in science fiction.


way to save my cool idea, Cool Idea Saver!

:highfive:

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:20 PM
Xenomorphs are based off of ants and wasps in their behaviour, so it's safe to assume that like certain wasps, their larva need to gestate in a living host. but what life processes are required in order for a host to be suitable? As we have never seen an undead creature introduced into the fray I believe there is some wiggle room as to what is potentially required to support the gestation period...

I doubt it considering the assumption that the baby feeds of you in some way to actually grow larger. Maybe they don't need to feed off you(blood maybe) but if they do zombies aren't alive thus their tissue is dead and rotting.

That's just my BS guess. but their tissue contain some active processes would those processes be enough to support the Xenemorphs? (they are a particularly resilient and pernicious species it might fly...)

Zombie Xenomorph!

Horrifying! How Do We Kill It????

See, now THIS is the type of thread we need more of on here. None of that socially conscious stuff anymore. We're nerds, dammit.

thank you kind sir :cwink:

AHA! Someone is as crazy as me.:hehe:

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 03:20 PM
>.>

<.<

Vote for me. Link in sig.

Spider-Who?
10-13-2010, 03:22 PM
>.>

<.<

Vote for me. Link in sig.
you're gettin' yer ass kicked.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:24 PM
or how about this:

could a zombie infect a xenomorph?
don't think it would be able to get a bite of one when you factor quickness of movement and toughness of carapace...

chaseter
10-13-2010, 03:30 PM
Wait wait wait...alien and a shark?

Carcharodon
10-13-2010, 03:30 PM
We would have to make assumptions about the physiology of both zombies AND xenomorphs that have not yet been made in films to be able to answer this question. What are the major physiological differences between a living host and a zombie?

Go.

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 03:35 PM
I would imagine that zombie flesh would be toxic, and may not even have the requisite nutrients to sustain anything.

Carcharodon
10-13-2010, 03:38 PM
Why? How do zombies maintain such things as balance, locomotion, and digestion, to name a few functions?

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:38 PM
Well I have not been reading much of the expanded universe material available about Xenomorphs I will have to wait till a better researched agent enters the fray.

in terms of Zombies each response must be tailored to the specific film series the Ghoul in question is from as all seem to have differing quirks...

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:41 PM
I would imagine that zombie flesh would be toxic, and may not even have the requisite nutrients to sustain anything. once again which Zombies?

Why? How do zombies maintain such things as balance, locomotion, and digestion, to name a few functions?

pick a franchise to base data off of...

Carcharodon
10-13-2010, 03:42 PM
in terms of Zombies each response must be tailored to the specific film series the Ghoul in question is from as all seem to have differing quirks...Very true. I'm not well-versed in all the zombie types.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 03:43 PM
I guess we could use the standard Romero zombie. I mean, when most of us think zombie, we think Rob Zombie. Then we think Romero zombie.

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 03:45 PM
I think of the classic Romero type of zombie. And I doubt they even digest anything. They seem to be barely aware, half-functional nervous systems.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:50 PM
Very true. I'm not well-versed in all the zombie types.
fair enough

I guess we could use the standard Romero zombie. I mean, when most of us think zombie, we think Rob Zombie. Then we think Romero zombie.

we can use that as a starting point as it is the original interpretation of the "Modern Zombie" which incidentally are more properly called Ghouls by Mr.Romero himself and in his original film series

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 03:53 PM
Ghouls are a better term, and allows for them to be more intelligent. The Marvel Zombies were more ghoulish than zombie because they were sentient. Zombies are essentially mindless.


Plus it annoys me that some recent stuff has portrayed the voodoo zombie condition as being able to be spread via bites.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 03:56 PM
Ghouls are a better term, and allows for them to be more intelligent. The Marvel Zombies were more ghoulish than zombie because they were sentient. Zombies are essentially mindless.


Plus it annoys me that some recent stuff has portrayed the voodoo zombie condition as being able to be spread via bites.
agreed albeit the Romero Ghouls were unintelligent...

yeah that's just dumb...

I think depending on the level of decomp and age of the Ghoul it could serve as potentially a viable host...

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 04:03 PM
I am big on zombies, but I have to say my Xenomorph knowledge isn't too extensive. But like it has been already stated, the Xenomorph was based off of the wasp. I just did some research (thanks Google), that states that certain parasitic wasps CAN live and grow in dead hosts.

But then, there's the acidic blood we have to take into account. I don't think we can get around that one.

WompuM
10-13-2010, 04:03 PM
It pissed me off in Survival of a Dead that a zombie knew how to ride a horse. That is ridiculous.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 04:04 PM
.......That is pretty stupid......

*runs to youtube*

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:05 PM
I am big on zombies, but I have to say my Xenomorph knowledge isn't too extensive. But like it has been already stated, the Xenomorph was based off of the wasp. I just did some research (thanks Google), that states that certain parasitic wasps CAN live and grow in dead hosts.

But then, there's the acidic blood we have to take into account. I don't think we can get around that one.

For a xenomorph zombie? That's easy to get around. It's called necromancy.

chaseter
10-13-2010, 04:07 PM
An alien face hugger + Dr. Who = indestructible and violently quirky Alien.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 04:10 PM
For a xenomorph zombie? That's easy to get around. It's called necromancy. Of course! Necromancy! Why didn't we think of this before?

I knew there was a reason I voted for you. You truly are a super ferret.:hrt:

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:11 PM
The sci fi viral zombie is so ingrained in the pop culture mindset that magical undead are typically forgotten.

WompuM
10-13-2010, 04:14 PM
My greatest thought has always been what happens when a zombie bites a T-800?

Well, I'll tell you! They T-800's internal components will recognize a contamination if its outter disguise skin. Since concealment is one of T-800's highest priorities, it will go into repair mode to fix it's skin. How does it repair? Harvesting new skin from those around it. Except the zombie infection keeps rotting away the T-800's flesh, no matter how much it harvests, so the T-800 is stuck in an infinite loop of harvesting flesh, and BAM:

Zombie Terminator.

chaseter
10-13-2010, 04:17 PM
My greatest thought has always been what happens when a zombie bites a T-800?

Well, I'll tell you! They T-800's internal components will recognize a contamination if its outter disguise skin. Since concealment is one of T-800's highest priorities, it will go into repair mode to fix it's skin. How does it repair? Harvesting new skin from those around it. Except the zombie infection keeps rotting away the T-800's flesh, no matter how much it harvests, so the T-800 is stuck in an infinite loop of harvesting flesh, and BAM:

Zombie Terminator.

HAHAHAHA. We are all doomed.

Must kill John Conna...for hiz skeen.

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:17 PM
It's more like a Terminator that merely looks undead. It's still a just a robot.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 04:21 PM
My greatest thought has always been what happens when a zombie bites a T-800?

Well, I'll tell you! They T-800's internal components will recognize a contamination if its outter disguise skin. Since concealment is one of T-800's highest priorities, it will go into repair mode to fix it's skin. How does it repair? Harvesting new skin from those around it. Except the zombie infection keeps rotting away the T-800's flesh, no matter how much it harvests, so the T-800 is stuck in an infinite loop of harvesting flesh, and BAM:

Zombie Terminator. That seems to be somewhat needlessly redundant...
the survival protocols of an organic Ghoul/Zombie wouldn't be able to infect or overcome the cybernetic core programming of a T-800 so aside from it's consistently rotting exterior (which can be achieved by applying copious amounts of firepower/flame/other physical trauma) I'm not sure what the gain would be...

chaseter
10-13-2010, 04:21 PM
It's more like a Terminator that merely looks undead. It's still a just a robot.

But everything in robot form is scarier. Werewolf? Super scary. Robot Werewolf? TOMG WE ARE ALL DEAD.

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:22 PM
True, but the second is just a Beast Wars Transformer.

T'Jai
10-13-2010, 04:24 PM
It's more like a Terminator that merely looks undead. It's still a just a robot.

I stand corrected a more frightening visual presentation is an acceptable gain :hehe:

chaseter
10-13-2010, 04:27 PM
True, but the second is just a Beast Wars Transformer.

What about a werecar?

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:28 PM
I agree, but couldn't the T-800 get a new living outer covering instead of using a rotting one?


Werecars are normal Transformers.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 04:31 PM
Yeah it could, if it was operational during the time when Sky-Net reigned supreme. But not in early 1990's LA.

Metamorpho1977
10-13-2010, 04:36 PM
Anyone remember the second Batman vs Aliens book where they make an Alien out of Killer Croc?

chaseter
10-13-2010, 04:39 PM
What about an Alien and a Werewolf. Would it only transform during the full moon?

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 04:42 PM
I assume it would be a standard Xenomorph most of the time, and transform into a wolf-human-xenomorph hybrid during a full moon.

Unless it's one of those werewolves that can transform at will and aren't cursed. The real question is, if this thing bites you and you survive, what happens to you?

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 04:45 PM
Good question. I wonder if the Xenomorph's DNA would transform the Werewolf virus so that it would deadly to a human being?

Metamorpho1977
10-13-2010, 05:12 PM
I assume it would be a standard Xenomorph most of the time, and transform into a wolf-human-xenomorph hybrid during a full moon.

Unless it's one of those werewolves that can transform at will and aren't cursed. The real question is, if this thing bites you and you survive, what happens to you?

You turn into this.
Ncu02ODfxHE

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 05:14 PM
Lycanthropy's a curse, not a virus. Though a few versions of it have natural lycanthropes who were born as were-whatevers and can change at will.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I wasn't exactly positive on what the concensus was on werewolf. Thanks.

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 05:52 PM
No problem. Monsters are one of my interests, especially the werebeast legends.

Mr.Webs
10-13-2010, 05:57 PM
Now, how about vampires? Is that a curse or an actual virus? I've hear several ideas leaning one towards the other.

Either way, imagine a vampire Xenomorph? That thing would be unstoppable.:eek:

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 05:59 PM
Vampires are traditionally mystical beings. Most monsters are, undead in particular. Zombies only recently became the stuff of science fiction. Originally they were the product of voodoo magic.

Metamorpho1977
10-13-2010, 06:55 PM
No problem. Monsters are one of my interests, especially the werebeast legends.

I have this idea for a werewolf movie that's set in the old west with the werewolves being bank robbers a la the Jesse James gang or something like that. I'm writing it now.

terry78
10-13-2010, 07:22 PM
What about a wereferret?

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 07:26 PM
What about them?

terry78
10-13-2010, 07:27 PM
How would that lore work in comparison to a wolf?

SuperFerret
10-13-2010, 07:29 PM
Well, it depends on the culture. Just like with wolves, weasels are seen as both noble and villainous in different cultures. I'm sure there is wereweasel folklore, but it's not common.

Pythenis
10-13-2010, 09:57 PM
Kinda Wereweasel folklorish - kama itachi, or "sickle weasel", is a creature from Japanese myth - a tiny animal with sharp claws which flies in windstorms at night. It's blamed for cold-chapped skin, sandals which break for no apparent reason - and is also a less embarrassing explanation for scratches received in the bedroom.

A blog: Curseofthewereweasel

chaseter
10-14-2010, 08:37 AM
I actually have written up a very scientific reason for vampires.

Carcharodon
10-14-2010, 10:31 AM
I am big on zombies, but I have to say my Xenomorph knowledge isn't too extensive. But like it has been already stated, the Xenomorph was based off of the wasp. I just did some research (thanks Google), that states that certain parasitic wasps CAN live and grow in dead hosts.

But then, there's the acidic blood we have to take into account. I don't think we can get around that one.Um...what? How is that a problem? If the acidic blood isn't a problem in a human host, why would it be a problem in a zombie?

SuperFerret
10-14-2010, 11:05 AM
It's a theoretical problem for the zombie virus if the xenomorph's extremely acidic blood destroys it, preventing the zombie infection from taking hold. We're talking about zombies attacking the xenomorphs, not vice versa.

The Lizard
10-14-2010, 11:51 AM
I doubt it considering the assumption that the baby feeds of you in some way to actually grow larger. Maybe they don't need to feed off you(blood maybe) but if they do zombies aren't alive thus their tissue is dead and rotting.

That's just my BS guess.

This ^

In the first Alien, Kane was very hungry after the face-hugger fell off, and he was eating as much as possible due to the Alien embryo growing inside him.

Zombies have no digestive actions, despite their eating constantly. That, and the decomposing flesh make them unsuitable hosts for xenomorphs. Presumably a face-hugger would not even attach itself to a zombie in the first place due to the lack of normal vital signs.

SuperFerret
10-14-2010, 12:02 PM
This leads to another question. I think we can all agree that zombies don't digest anything they eat, so what happens when a zombie gets full?

chaseter
10-14-2010, 12:42 PM
I would love to see a movie where an Alien transforms into a Predator during the full moons and he goes around killing his fellow Aliens.

Carcharodon
10-14-2010, 01:40 PM
It's a theoretical problem for the zombie virus if the xenomorph's extremely acidic blood destroys it, preventing the zombie infection from taking hold. We're talking about zombies attacking the xenomorphs, not vice versa.Oh, I see, then that makes perfect sense. My mistake.

Carcharodon
10-14-2010, 01:47 PM
This ^

In the first Alien, Kane was very hungry after the face-hugger fell off, and he was eating as much as possible due to the Alien embryo growing inside him.There are inconsistencies with that symptom, however. Are we assuming that after the aliens cocoon a human host that they feed them during the parasite's development? Subsequent depictions seem to ignore that implication from the first film.

Presumably a face-hugger would not even attach itself to a zombie in the first place due to the lack of normal vital signs.Now that's an interesting point.

chaseter
10-14-2010, 01:54 PM
I don't think face huggers see vital signs...I think they only see body heat. I don't see how an animal would see pulse or heart rate through the air...water yes but air no.

Carcharodon
10-14-2010, 02:00 PM
I don't think face huggers see vital signs...I think they only see body heat. I don't see how an animal would see pulse or heart rate through the air...water yes but air no.How about carbon dioxide, or other chemical cues?

chaseter
10-14-2010, 02:47 PM
But wasn't there a scene where they had a helmet on or it was in another room and it jumped onto the helmet or the glass? It wouldn't be able to smell or taste chemical cues then. It would still however be able to see body heat. Plus, not all animals would breathe oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as a respiratory waste product.

Hobgoblin
10-14-2010, 03:00 PM
My own question: Could a xenomorph gestate inside of another xenomorph?

chaseter
10-14-2010, 03:03 PM
I have another good one...what if a xenomorph gestated inside a super hero? What if Superman got face hugged?

Hobgoblin
10-14-2010, 03:03 PM
bump

chaseter
10-14-2010, 03:04 PM
Why is Star Wars set in the future yet there are no references to Earth?

Hobgoblin
10-14-2010, 03:05 PM
I have another good one...what if a xenomorph gestated inside a super hero? What if Superman got face hugged?

That actually happened once. He managed to get close enough to the sun to recharge himself and crush the chestburster inside him. He then vomited up the remains. It was a queen chestburster, so I had visions of a queen flying around burning enemies with heat vision.

Hobgoblin
10-14-2010, 03:06 PM
Why is Star Wars set in the future yet there are no references to Earth?

And here I though it was set long ago in a galaxy far far away. :huh:

chaseter
10-14-2010, 03:07 PM
Oh I thought it was set in the future...haha. I am still thinking of the xenomorph debate in the other thread. Like what if a xenomorph gestated in a Jedi? Would he have the ability to use the force?

But that even makes my question more perplexing...if it was set in the past, why has Earth not encountered the obvious abundance of alien life out there? I mean no Earth references? They have mastered space travel, a far away galaxy ain't nothing to them, but they have never been on Earth.

Mr.Webs
10-14-2010, 03:29 PM
This leads to another question. I think we can all agree that zombies don't digest anything they eat, so what happens when a zombie gets full? Their stomach would probably explode due to the contents, as they just keep eating and eating and eating....

And no freaking way Hobby. That actually happened?:wow: Imagine a Queen Superman.

random_havoc
10-14-2010, 03:41 PM
Ok, so let's think about the universe. Galaxies are moving away from each other. In each galaxy, let's say the Milky Way, branches of stars are orbiting around the massive center. In these branches, the stars themselves are moving away from each other. Around these stars, our sun for instance, planets are orbiting at an incredible speed. These planets are rotating on their axises. So, at any moment, you are moving at an unbelievable pace through space and when you think about it, you never occupy the same space more than once.

And yet, when Marty pushes the DeLorean up to 88 mph, and causes the time machine to travel through time, not space, he ends up in the same relative spot on Earth instead of floating through that same spot in empty space where the Earth was not in 1955.

Why?


Doc Brown invented a friggin TIME MACHINE, you don't think he thought about this and also included a type of galactic gps unit to help stay where he wants to be?!

C'mon now, give the man some credit :cwink:

Hobgoblin
10-14-2010, 03:47 PM
Their stomach would probably explode due to the contents, as they just keep eating and eating and eating....


I believe this was covered in either World War Z or the Zombie Survival Guide. Essential reading if you want to live.


And no freaking way Hobby. That actually happened?:wow: Imagine a Queen Superman.

Yup, there was a Superman/Aliens crossover about 10 years ago.

Mr.Webs
10-14-2010, 03:54 PM
Yeah, I think that's where I read it.

Carcharodon
10-14-2010, 04:05 PM
Yup, there was a Superman/Aliens crossover about 10 years ago.I have that. :up:

TheDreamMaster
10-14-2010, 04:21 PM
I know...but what would they look like?
I dunno if it has been answered in the last five pages, but look up the Aliens toy line. They have Gorilla aliens, mantis aliens, rhino aliens, etc. And they do resemble animal counterparts.

C. Lee
10-14-2010, 04:38 PM
Oh I thought it was set in the future...haha. I am still thinking of the xenomorph debate in the other thread. Like what if a xenomorph gestated in a Jedi? Would he have the ability to use the force?

But that even makes my question more perplexing...if it was set in the past, why has Earth not encountered the obvious abundance of alien life out there? I mean no Earth references? They have mastered space travel, a far away galaxy ain't nothing to them, but they have never been on Earth.

Just because they have mastered traveling from one solar system to the next, it doesn't mean they have accomplished travel from one galaxy to the next.

Even if they can travel from one galaxy to the next....we don't know how many galaxies away they are (remember, they are in a galaxy far far away).

In the Star Wars movies they showed the galactic senate made up of the represenatives from millions of worlds. I'm sure many of them are complaining about not getting enough press in the movies too.

chaseter
10-14-2010, 04:58 PM
How many of those other senators have seen Star Wars to complain about their planet not being hinted at?

You really wouldn't want to see a Jedi travelling to Earth and fighting dinosaurs?

The Squirrel
10-14-2010, 05:04 PM
Oh I thought it was set in the future...haha. I am still thinking of the xenomorph debate in the other thread. Like what if a xenomorph gestated in a Jedi? Would he have the ability to use the force?

But that even makes my question more perplexing...if it was set in the past, why has Earth not encountered the obvious abundance of alien life out there? I mean no Earth references? They have mastered space travel, a far away galaxy ain't nothing to them, but they have never been on Earth.

My guess would be because it's a Fantasy story and Earth probably doesn't exist.

Kane52630
10-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Tron vs Agent Smith? dead serious.

JStorm
10-14-2010, 06:30 PM
We had a fun little side conversation in the Funny Pics thread about Gremlins sinking with the Titanic. I made a wise guy comment about the little buggers soon multiplying exponentially as they fell into the waters of the north Atlantic. It would, as I said, have been the end of the world.

Others disagreed, and a debate broke out. Is birth painful for Gremlins, causing them to go into shock and drown? Would they freeze to death or would the sheer numbers outpace the death rate? Can Lois have Superman's baby? (Dont ask me how that question popped into the conversation, I dont remember.)

So here we are, film, comic book and sci fi geeks. Debate away.

I'll give you a topic: What does Godzilla eat? For such a huge animal, he doesnt have large prey to hunt. Does he somehow eat plankton, or other tiny marine life, like a whale?


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/26885-25514.gif
"Only if he wears a Kryptonite condom, and that would kill him."

Manic
10-14-2010, 06:39 PM
Clark and Lois need to keep an artificial red sun lamp in the bedroom for stuff like that.

<(o_o)>
10-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Regenerating Zombie Jason vs a Werewolf, What would happen if these 2 were to fight each other? Suppose the werewolf were to mess Jason up pretty bad but still didn't kill him, would Jason be able to turn into a werewolf because he now carried the werewolf virus or would Jason remain the same since he is something besides a regular human?

A human is bitten by a vampire, werewolf & zombie in no particular order would the human then become a hybrid of all 3 or would each bite counter act each other so the human would either die or become only one of the monsters mentioned above?

<(o_o)>
10-14-2010, 06:44 PM
Clark and Lois need to keep an artificial red sun lamp in the bedroom for stuff like that.

All Lois would need it to wear a Blue Kryptonite necklace while she & Superman are making love & it would render him powerless.

Manic
10-14-2010, 06:55 PM
I thought blue kryptonite healed Superman and hurt Bizarro.

terry78
10-14-2010, 07:12 PM
The Ghostbusters vs. the stringy haired Ring girl and the Grudge girl. Would Egon be able to create some way to trap them without succumbing to the curses?

<(o_o)>
10-14-2010, 07:12 PM
I thought blue kryptonite healed Superman and hurt Bizarro.

On Smallville it suppresses Kryptonians' powers.

random_havoc
10-14-2010, 07:12 PM
Regenerating Zombie Jason vs a Werewolf, What would happen if these 2 were to fight each other? Suppose the werewolf were to mess Jason up pretty bad but still didn't kill him, would Jason be able to turn into a werewolf because he now carried the werewolf virus or would Jason remain the same since he is something besides a regular human?

A human is bitten by a vampire, werewolf & zombie in no particular order would the human then become a hybrid of all 3 or would each bite counter act each other so the human would either die or become only one of the monsters mentioned above?

you just leaked the plot of the next underworld movie :dry:

ObakeTora
10-14-2010, 07:14 PM
Has anyone asked the transformers question yet?

I've always wondered how Megatron and Soundwave could grow and shrink. I discovered what makes them grow and shrink would probably power their forcefields as well. Neutron stars are compressed matter the size of Manhattan because the energy used has run out. Imagine how something the size of a star compressed to the size of Manhattan would relate to something the size of a semi truck to compressed to a handgun. Maybe they know of a way to manipulate the properties of Neutrons to recycle the energy that keeps the particles apart to use as a force field. Aint science grand?

Also how do transformers have sex?

random_havoc
10-14-2010, 07:14 PM
Okay, I got an oldie but a goodie:

Captain Picard vs Captain Kirk!!

Who wins in:

1) Hand to hand combat (both in their primes)

2) ship to ship combat (assuming tech was the same)

Manic
10-14-2010, 07:15 PM
On Smallville it suppresses Kryptonians' powers.

Oh, well, if Smallville does it that way... :whatever:

redhawk23
10-14-2010, 07:58 PM
Okay, I got an oldie but a goodie:

Captain Picard vs Captain Kirk!!

Who wins in:

1) Hand to hand combat (both in their primes)

2) ship to ship combat (assuming tech was the same)


actually this happens in one of shatners book, and its a pretty even fight but then they team up and Kirk owns the borg. hells yeah.


Question are all of aliens liquid excretions acidic?

SuperFerret
10-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Their saliva doesn't seem to be.