9.22 - Salvation SEASON FINALE Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[spawnjack01]

Does anyone know if either Martha or Perry sticks around for this ep or is it just the one before?

Also how much of the superman trademark do they have access to nowdays. Wasn't the infinite \8/ symbol in earlier seasons a way around the copyrighted \S/? My question is how iconic with superman canons can they get nowdays without being sued?
Are they legally allowed to even let him fly or put on the suit with the design from the comics?
Do I remember it completely wrong or weren't they sued by the family of Supes creators for getting too close to the character of Superboy a long time ago? (always thought that was the real reason for him not flying in the earlier seasons)

[The Incredible Hulk]

Smallville can have as much of it as they want. They already have their very own version of the shield which is the only real requirement for them to have. Not flying was always A) budgetary, and B) to keep the story "grounded". The show wasnt sued by the Siegel estate, DC Comics was.

[KalKai]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/smallville-season-finale-spoiler/

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/100505/SMALLVILLE-Salvation_510.jpg

[Prison Mike]

whoa that's a cool shot. Too bad Lois is probably unconscious.

[spawnjack01]

Smallville can have as much of it as they want. They already have their very own version of the shield which is the only real requirement for them to have. Not flying was always A) budgetary, and B) to keep the story "grounded". The show wasnt sued by the Siegel estate, DC Comics was.´

Cool. Thanks for the info:up:

[asha14]

Oh look Lois is knocked out while Clark does his Super duties...most be Friday

[KalKai]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/blind-item-time-warp/

Is it SV this time? With Peterson words about how Clark will "literally see his own destiny", I think it's a pretty safe bet.

[B]

Meh, i'd expect some other type of Superman II homage.

They've done the "kneel before Zod" quite a few times already...

I'd have loved to see Zod say to one of his minions, the line "This 'Super-man' is nothing of the kind, I've discovered his weakness, he cares. He actually cares for these earth people" :up:

But it only kinda takes effect had he been known as Superman :-/

Bummer, thats one of my favourite lines from the entier Reeve series :up:

[COMPO]

As much as I am enjoying seeing Martha back seeing the trailer and the last few episodes I'm starting to wonder why I even watch Smallville anymore as much as I enjoy it its starting to wane on me. I hope the finale can rekindle the old exciting feelings I felt at the beginning of the season....

[Zorex]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/blind-item-time-warp/

Is it SV this time? With Peterson words about how Clark will "literally see his own destiny", I think it's a pretty safe bet.
Oh, ****... that has me insanely excited. I'm thinking the Peterson quote and the Ausiello tease match up pretty well, don't you?

[SuperNoob]

Aren't Ursa and Non supposed to be in one of these episodes? Maybe a Clark v. Zod/Ursa/Non fight?

Hoping we see SOMETHING that screams "Superman" as this big, iconic, look at his destiny.

[ironman29758]

Aren't Ursa and Non supposed to be in one of these episodes? Maybe a Clark v. Zod/Ursa/Non fight?

Hoping we see SOMETHING that screams "Superman" as this big, iconic, look at his destiny.
Faora is the original Ursa. a man hater who knows martial arts and in Smallville is dedicated to Zod.
Non is pretty mush replaced by Basquat who was a major villian in Superman story

[zerohour films]

Interesting...

You know I was just thinking about this whole glimpse thing--and while I still contend that it will be of the Clark disguise rather than the Superman one---woudn't it be hillarious if:

Clark via the Book of Rao or whatever leaps forward into his future self glasses and all in the middle of shirt ripping into Superman.

So the shot would be our Clark in the glasses ripping open his shirt. He looks down to see the red/yellow \S/ against blue then back up with a WTH look on his face (maybe even at a mirror in front of him). We then cut to black and roll credits.

Man, that would make for a flippin' crazy summer hiatus.

[Zorex]

That would... will probably not happen, but holy Moses, that would be... well, you would probably be able to hear the collective exploding of geek heads everywhere.

[zerohour films]

HaHa...tell me about it.

If that were to happen, it might just be enough to break the internet. Or at aleast severely wound it for a few days. :yay:

What would make that scene even better is if we didn't already have him wearing the symbol. He really would have been like WT---

[Happenstance]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/S-HLv0MvbyI/AAAAAAAAy_Y/xZjdASPxVIg/s400/SMALLVILLE_510.jpg

http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/05/smallville-another-season-finale.html

[Zorex]

Oh, this keeps getting better and better...

[Mike_D202]

WTf..my brain is being scrambled right now!! How are they gonna pull this off?! Is He gonna spin the earth backwards?!

[KBX]

Wow....

...umm mind-wipe here we come???

[Spider-Gamer]

Wow....

...umm mind-wipe here we come???

Like the mind-wipe kiss from Superman II? :cwink:

[KBX]

Like the mind-wipe kiss from Superman II? :cwink:

Hmmm....

Im going with Lois finds out Zod is the Blur, asks Clark why are you dressed up like the Blur, and Clark kisses her. Yep problem solved!

[Webhead2006]

very cool lois and blur photos. cant wait to see what happens in those scenes.

[B]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/S-HLv0MvbyI/AAAAAAAAy_Y/xZjdASPxVIg/s400/SMALLVILLE_510.jpg

http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/05/smallville-another-season-finale.html

:wow: I'm listening.

I think this is the most excited I've been for a season finale, like ever.

Only bad thing is now after seeing that it is evident that there is a mind wipe or something coming after it :(

[Webhead2006]

well we dont know what is happening in this scene so yes a mindwipe could be happening. or maybe lois has her eyes closed during this kiss who knows. Or something else. As we can see clark's jacket is closed so maybe something else is up.

[Prison Mike]

oh man. just a week and a half to go!

[Orb]

Or Lois just closed her eyes the entire time to avoid seeing Clark's face.

EDIT:Notice how they are both wet like Clark was with Zod in the rain. So I'm guessing this takes place before or after that scene. I'm going with after.

[Zorex]

That, or most of the episode takes place in the rain...

I dunno, just throwing ideas out there. ;)

[Prison Mike]

Here are some Ask Ausiello spoilers...


Question: Okay, I’ll bite: What is the story behind the two Lois/Clark pictures (No. 1 (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/smallville-season-finale-spoiler/), No. 2 (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/smallville-season-finale-spoiler/)) from the season finale of Smallville? —Robert
Ausiello: I only promised you a hint — and here it is: The second image is a little deceiving in that the smooch actually takes place in the dark. For further details, pick up the new issue of Entertainment Weekly, on sale now.



Question: Any Smallville season finale spoilers that don’t involve the Grim Reaper (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/03/30/smallville-finale-death-spoiler/)? Plot details, perhaps? —Graham
Ausiello: EP Brian Peterson hints that the blue Kryptonite dagger “comes into play heavily in the last few seconds” of the finale.

[ironman29758]

Question: Okay, I’ll bite: What is the story behind the two Lois/Clark pictures (No. 1, No. 2) from the season finale of Smallville? —Robert
Ausiello: I only promised you a hint — and here it is: The second image is a little deceiving in that the smooch actually takes place in the dark. For further details, pick up the new issue of Entertainment Weekly, on sale now.

Question: Any good news for Clark/Lois fans on Smallville? —David
Ausiello: Not in this Friday’s episode, since, as The CW spoiled in its promo, they kind of break up. Executive producer Kelly Souders says the split is an inevitable consequence of “the boiler pressure that both of them are under. Lois is struggling — unbeknownst to her — between Clark and The Blur. And [the breakup] allows us to see what the lie that Clark’s had to protect has done to Lois.”

Question: Any Smallville season finale spoilers that don’t involve the Grim Reaper? Plot details, perhaps? —Graham
Ausiello: EP Brian Peterson hints that the blue Kryptonite dagger “comes into play heavily in the last few seconds” of the finale.


http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/05/ask-ausiello-spoilers-greys-true-blood-gossip-girl/#more-7900 (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/...d-gossip-girl/)
so that got 3 important question out of the way.
who is breaking up. who dies. and the 3 season finale pictures.

[Webhead2006]

yea interesting tidbits there. as for lois and clark they will probably be back together shortly. As for dies yea its pretty much a lock for zod. cant wait for the finale.

[SuperDaniel]

I personally don`t think it would be a problem if Lois knew about the secret and was on his side from day one, helping him create both personas.

[Hush]

I would rather this Zod not die but he is just a clone, so its not that bad.

[Webhead2006]

true it probably wouldnt be a problem. But i still say its probably one thing dc comics doesnt want the show to do. Sure the show is its own thing and all, but she shouldnt known for sure 100% to he is in red/blue suit with cape and out in public. But we will see.

[Brainiac 8]

I've enjoyed Blue as Zod so much that I would love for him to survive this season.

On the other hand, it would be genius to have him banished to the PZ and have Zod Phantom take him over, and thus the conundrum of Zod not having a body is fixed. :P

[Man of Tomorrow]

It looks like Zod is going to stupidly fall on his own dagger and die.

It's unfortunate that it's too late for Clark to "save Zod" after all the bloodshed Zod has caused.

[Webhead2006]

yea i think callum has been doing great as zod, though since he is a clone he will probably be just killed. Though it would be fun if he was sent to the phantom zone and merged with phantom zod and the leave it open like doomsday that he could return again in the future.

[KBX]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationgallery1.htm

wow.... damn..... wow.... damn.....

[Prison Mike]

Tess is Two-Face! :wow:

Looks like Clark and Zod really duke it out in this one. I'm excited!

[KBX]

What does Clark plan to do with a burnt Tess in the Fortress?

[Prison Mike]

What does Clark plan to do with a burnt Tess in the Fortress?


I assumed that's where Zod burnt her and Clark found her and took her to the hospital. Otherwise, maybe Clark thinks Jor-El could save her?

[KBX]

I assumed that's where Zod burnt her and Clark found her and took her to the hospital. Otherwise, maybe Clark thinks Jor-El could save her?

Ah. Some reason I assumed Clark took Tess from the hostipal to the Fortress, not the other way around. Whats Clark holding in his hand? Book of Rao?

[Prison Mike]

Ah. Some reason I assumed Clark took Tess from the hostipal to the Fortress, not the other way around. Whats Clark holding in his hand? Book of Rao?



It could turn out that way too if Clark thinks Jor-El is better help than the doctors in Metropolis

[KalKai]

You don't need to use spoiler tags.

[B]

Oh this looks awesome :up:

[KBX]

You don't need to use spoiler tags.

Sorry!

[Prison Mike]

Alright, this is the last spoiler tag

[Zorex]

Oh woooooow. Those are some intense photos! Poor Tess! So I'm starting to agree that, yeah, Zod will probably be the one to die... I wonder how Tess will get back to normal. How will Clark's vision of his destiny fit into all this struggle with Zod? I think the photos of their fight look damn cool. :up::up:

[Hush]

Im sorry but those pics piss me off because that damn knife is ever present and its a total ****ing cop out. What in ****s name will it take for the damn producers to get some balls? Not very happy about its very lingering presence.

[Webhead2006]

wicked photos from the finale. looks like alot is going to go down next week. Cant wait to see how everything turns out. Also i would have loved to seen a photo of hawkman/stargirl/canery/cyborg in there.

[griffolyon12]

Im sorry but those pics piss me off because that damn knife is ever present and its a total ****ing cop out. What in ****s name will it take for the damn producers to get some balls? Not very happy about its very lingering presence.

I've gotta agree here. When the description talked about Zod and Clark's epic confrontation I was expecting a full on superfight like when Clark battled Titan in Season 6, not a cop out blue kryptonite fight like in the season premiere. When was the last time Clark actually legitimately fought a bad guy? I know that this is a budget strapped show, but come on.

[Webhead2006]

well maybe it will start out with a super powered brawl then then becomes non powered fight with blue k, plus also doing a non powered fight they tend to do better with regular human to human fights in the show then powered people fights.

[elgaz]

For the benefit of those unable to click links...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation1.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation2.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation3.jpg
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http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation10.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation12.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation13.jpg

[elgaz]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvatio14.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation15.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation16.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation17.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation18.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation19.jpg
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvation20.jpg

[Webhead2006]

all red x's

[Prison Mike]

I was just wondering, if Zod stabs Clark with the Blue K dagger, could he die from the wound? Clark's powers would be taken away leaving him vulnerable to wounds. Clark could just grab some Green K and then stab Zod back since it wouldn't affect Clark anymore.

[SuperNoob]

Trailer for Salvation.

Holy effing crap. I got chills.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b179945_smallville_finale_sneak_peek_will.html

[KalKai]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7539/69717923.png

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[Prison Mike]

so Jor-El knows Clark's true destiny?

[Webhead2006]

wicked.

[B]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7539/69717923.png

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

I can't view the trailer :(

Is this in it?

I'm liking the colors :D

[Binker]

This goes all the way back to the Book of Rao, and my question: where the hell did it come from? Because, Krypton has always been seen as this great science planey, but the Book of Rao seems less science and more of a magic book. Again, where did it come from? Who created it? I don't understand how that works. Is it like, someone touches it, and it shows the person their future? Is that it? Because it that is the case, it certainly didn't sound like that from the show. Sounded more like a cheat book.

Whatever.

Well, now we know the "Clark sees his destiny" thing is true, because of the classic colored "S" Shield, which would mean wardrobe change (but this is Smallville, so wardrobe change won't mean costume, because Smallville is a crueled show. Unless they DO do that, because Tom has changed his mind about being a pu$$y on the subject, and they show the coswtume with the producers saying "We're sorry for the delay", but that ain't going to happen). But I wonder what else is it going to show, as well as how all this is going to end.

One thing though, about Salvation: in terms of the episode's ending, I wonder how this whole "embracing your Kryptonian side" that Clark and the producers used to explain why he is not flying will now be handled. Will it be taken back, and revealed that that's not how Clark will learn how to fly, and it's something else (I made a thread on that which I like more than the show, just search), or will be sometyhing else, something...clever...

But again, I cannot hyped up. Why? Because this is Smallville, and this show, toward me and most likely everyone else, has burned me enough to consider it a mixed bag filled with disappointments. That's why I can never be hyped up, because in most cases, it always, most of the time, sometimes, ends the same way.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm liking the mutant toxic avenger Tess.

[KalKai]

This goes all the way back to the Book of Rao, and my question: where the hell did it come from? Because, Krypton has always been seen as this great science planey, but the Book of Rao seems less science and more of a magic book. Again, where did it come from? Who created it? I don't understand how that works. Is it like, someone touches it, and it shows the person their future? Is that it? Because it that is the case, it certainly didn't sound like that from the show. Sounded more like a cheat book.

Whatever.

Well, now we know the "Clark sees his destiny" thing is true, because of the classic colored "S" Shield, which would mean wardrobe change (but this is Smallville, so wardrobe change won't mean costume, because Smallville is a crueled show. Unless they DO do that, because Tom has changed his mind about being a pu$$y on the subject, and they show the coswtume with the producers saying "We're sorry for the delay", but that ain't going to happen). But I wonder what else is it going to show, as well as how all this is going to end.

One thing though, about Salvation: in terms of the episode's ending, I wonder how this whole "embracing your Kryptonian side" that Clark and the producers used to explain why he is not flying will now be handled. Will it be taken back, and revealed that that's not how Clark will learn how to fly, and it's something else (I made a thread on that which I like more than the show, just search), or will be sometyhing else, something...clever...

But again, I cannot hyped up. Why? Because this is Smallville, and this show, toward me and most likely everyone else, has burned me enough to consider it a mixed bag filled with disappointments. That's why I can never be hyped up, because in most cases, it always, most of the time, sometimes, ends the same way.

Oh look, another rant. We. don't. care.

Don't bother posting.

I can't view the trailer :(

Is this in it?

I'm liking the colors :D

It's on YT for those who can't view it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYTINirLRI

so Jor-El knows Clark's true destiny?

It's Jor-El.

[Binker]

It wasn't a rant, it was my POV of the show and me over the years.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Don't raise your expectations then. Problem solved.


These promos are always misleading hype. No way is Lois going to learn the truth about Clark.

Zod is pretty much a goner too, but let's see how well it's executed.

I didn't see Cyborg in that promo unfortunately. Black Canary's hair looks really retro but it's an improvement over the punk look she had previously.


Unpowered fight scene looks promising. I just hope they don't overdo the slow-mo like in the opening scenes of "Checkmate"



By the way, "I sent you to Earth for a purpose Kal-El" sounds strangely familiar. Is that a recycled track from a previous episode?

[Webhead2006]

blinker we will just have to see how the book plays out tonight and in next week's episode.

[KalKai]

By the way, "I sent you to Earth for a purpose Kal-El" sounds strangely familiar. Is that a recycled track from a previous episode?

I'm pretty sure he said it before. They either put it in for effect without it being in the episode, or Jor-El is just repeating himself, which he obviously is, as he often does.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3023/42313491.gif http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/72/80065632.gif

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http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7955/75513760.gif

[Binker]

Okay, another thing in relation to the promo: is it me, or will we see a V2 S-Shield, going by that image? Remember, the Smallville "S" was an altered version of Superman Returns, which according to some sources going back to Comic Con 2009, was altered again for the show to include the Earth-2 elements, even though looking back it still looks the same. The classic colored "S" from that trailer looks like its Silver Age-based, more curvy. So I wonder if that indicates we'll get a change for the "S" too.

P.S. Is there a good overall look at the Smallville "S"?

[zerohour films]

Holy hell that is the most magnificent image from Smallville ever!!

It is very Lost-esque. Very excited for this now.

[Prison Mike]

I have a feeling that the final fight will be in slow-motion. It's raining and I'm sure the producers love that bullet-time effect especially if they have two super-powered beings fighting each other.

[Zorex]

WHAT THE WHAT.

Red blue and yellow. Super-shield.

WHAT.

Nice promo. The black and white motif was fun and executed well.

Remember, regarding the look of that full-colour shield at the end, that it could yet be a temp graphic/viz fx shot.

Also, one last time...

WHAT. :D

[Man of Tomorrow]

Chloe already sported the shield in red and yellow, on her Blur mug that she showed Clark.

[Zorex]

Chloe already sported the shield in red and yellow, on her Blur mug that she showed Clark.
I do think this differs in awesomeness from... a mug.

[Man of Tomorrow]

We also saw the red/yellow in the cape shot (reused in Absolute Justice).

Though, this is significant since Clark is seeing the future for himself this time.

[zerohour films]

So do you think that is all there is to the future glimpse. I am thinking so, but then why would they show it all in the promo?? (although they did the same with the Doomsday fight now didn't they...)

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7955/75513760.gif



Giggitty :up:

Although I assume this wll.l be the final shot of the episode, which sucks that they gave it away in the trailer.

[KalKai]

It either ends with that and there's more to it, which I hope is the case, or it ends with the baddie of next season.

[Zorex]

Giggitty :up:

Although I assume this wll.l be the final shot of the episode, which sucks that they gave it away in the trailer.
I really hope there's more to it than that, even if it's just context.

[KalKai]

You see the shield lighting up at the end? Right there there's gotta be more. Maybe at that point the whole view will expand and we'll see everything.

:D

[zerohour films]

They can't show too much or they risk ruining the reveal at the end of the series.

I am dying to know what exactly is going on...what is he looking at? I assume an image produced via the Book of Rao. If so is it just the shield in the proper colors or does he see himself wearing the suit...hhmmmm.

I think we all hope there is more to it, but need to brace ourselves if in fact they did blow it all in the promo...or at least the best/most exciting part.

So I wonder if next season is him coming to terms with what he saw in order to get to that place/point in his life...if so it would HAVE to be treated as the last season don't you think?

My biggest fear is another Season of "The Blur" persona. Honestly we've had two seasons of it now and don't need a third---especially since he's using the \S/. I am still surprised no one has been asking what that stands for anyway.

I don't see a way around not having that persona, but damn he really needs a new one.

[Webhead2006]

yea i cant wait to see how everything comes to be we saw in this trailer. as for the zod/clark fight yea i agree its probably going to have some slo mo parts to it. but i hope we dont have it all in slo mo.

[KalKai]

Clark literally seeing his own destiny is something more than just the Superman shield in the proper colors, he has to be looking at his future self.

The question is if we will get to see it or not, Clark most definitely will.

[KBX]

It either ends with that and there's more to it, which I hope is the case, or it ends with the baddie of next season.

There will be a hint of next seasons baddie, its just I don't think it will be the last scene we see. Clarks Superman eye, will be one of the final scenes, its got to be. Though you do see a quick flash of light just before the preview ends, so hopefully they will expand on it. It will really suck if that was the ending, and nothing more.

[Zorex]

I'm really really really wanting to find out what on earth the context is. How does he have this vision? Is it via the Book of Rao? Something totally new?

[KBX]

if you look at the trailer you see the book or rao being place with the crystals in the fortress. Im sure once Clark has done this, he will get the eye of Superman....

[KalKai]

If the Book of Rao is some kind of magic book that's been waiting for the one to find it and open it and reveal him his destiny, then yes, and maybe Jor-El can even talk through it.

In the trailer Clark says "he knows his destiny", that's gotta be after he sees the vision, it could actually end with that line.

[KBX]

So whats the deal with Canary, Stargirl and Hawkman just standing there. Are their cheerleaders for Clark with his fight with Zod?

[KalKai]

if you look at the trailer you see the book or rao being place with the crystals in the fortress. Im sure once Clark has done this, he will get the eye of Superman....

OMG I thought that was a graveyard with it being black & white! LOL!

[Zorex]

if you look at the trailer you see the book or rao being place with the crystals in the fortress. Im sure once Clark has done this, he will get the eye of Superman....
Ah-ha! I believe you are correct, sir. The arrangement of the crystals also seems to match up with the reflection in Clark's eye... nice. :up:

[Mikelus]

Well, now we know the "Clark sees his destiny" thing is true, because of the classic colored "S" Shield, which would mean wardrobe change (but this is Smallville, so wardrobe change won't mean costume, because Smallville is a crueled show. Unless they DO do that, because Tom has changed his mind about being a pu$$y on the subject, and they show the coswtume with the producers saying "We're sorry for the delay", but that ain't going to happen). But I wonder what else is it going to show, as well as how all this is going to end.



:whatever:

Is not about Tom, is about leaving the classic suit for the series finale if Warner allows them to, some moronic restrictions may get in the way, time will tell.

As for the classic :super: reveal, some of us called it a few days ago, the spoiler about Clark literally seeing his destiny was indeed.... literal. :word:

[SpideyVille]

I found it really interesting that the text in the trailer had a red blur speeding behind it .. could that be a hint that Clark loses the black costume and goes back to something more colorful?

[Man of Tomorrow]

He'll definitely sport a colorful costume next year, but I'm willing to bet;

1) he'll still be The Blur/Red-Blue Blur

2) the "costume" will just be tailored civilian clothes, like the current Blur outfit

I'm beyond skeptical we'll see Tom running around in blue tights.

[Slick]

Oh my God I screamed out loud when I saw the end of that promo.:awesome:

[Webhead2006]

with what we were told of one of the functions of the book of rao it looks like its a teleporter now as to were it goes is the question. is it the phantom zone, or maybe darkseid's planet or what not. Plus it looks like what someone said awhile ago that smallville might be adapting the salvation run story looks to be right.

As for costume yea i would love if we get a more full on costume with tom wearing. But yea its more likely it will jsut be red/blue version of the current blur outfit.

[SpideyVille]

Now the real question is, should it be something like his current costume except as a red coat, blue jeans and a bright blue shirt? or should it be something completely different?

[MAN O STEEL]

I just cried like a baby. I have invested almost 10 years of my life on this show & to even see the glimmer of Superman in his eye made my geek explode. I can't wait for this finale now.




Steve

[Sawyer]

If this is just a fake-out, I'm gonna be pissed.

[smallville fan]

holy crap, that trailer looks so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like to think that somehow the book of Rao is somewhat connected to the Superman costume maybe(hence the final shot of the trailer being the superman shield in proper colours)??? this idea sort of stemmed off the similarity of 2 storylines done within the show, that is, in season 4-5 one of the storylines was when the different factions searched for the crystals which eventually formed the fortress of solitude, this is sort of similar to what's happening in season 9 now, different factions want the book of Rao which could somehow lead to the Superman costume given to Clark?????

[KBX]

Zod did mention that the book of Rao has the knowledge of all the universe, but I don't know if that will turn out to be the anti-life equation. I believe in the comics the book of Rao foretold a new Krypton, inhabited by Kryptonians. Which is interested because in the comics series "Salvation Run" Checkmate sent villians to this distant planet(called Salvation/The Hell Planet) to live on thier own. Problem was it was inhabited by Darkseids minions. Not saying this will turn out this way just gives an explanation to get rid of the Kandorians and introduces Darkseid if Smallville chooses to go that way. Just food for thought


I posted this a while back... it does look like its turning out that way with a few Martha/Red Queen lines...

[Man of Tomorrow]

It does sound somwhat similar, except it's the Book that sending the Kandorians to another dimension.

I wonder if the Blue K will somehow affect this with Clark and Zod.

[KBX]

Sending the Kandorians to different dimensions and parrallel universe can really get confusing. Just send them to a damn planet, lol! I have trouble calling it a Book.... its more like the Disc of Rao

Now that you mention it, Blue K is suppose to strip Kandorians of their powers were they can pass as humans, so Clark could use the Book of Rao, but with him and Zod still one Earth as long as their holding blue K at that time....

[Zing79]

It does sound somwhat similar, except it's the Book that sending the Kandorians to another dimension.

I wonder if the Blue K will somehow affect this with Clark and Zod.
Oh snap. Now the dagger makes sense. Clark makes moves to use the book. Zod in turn busts out the dagger keeping Clark and him earthbound. Round 2: fight.

Or what if Zod already knows what the book will do and WANTS that to happen so he can be the only kandorian left on earth. Kind of makes it easier to be the one and only top dog that way.

[MAN O STEEL]

Don't know if you guys see it or not, but the 'S' shield Clark see's, which i presume is the actual Superman Shield is actually the traditional 'S' design, not the SR/SMALLVILLE re design that they have been using since season 6. Wonder why?.

It looks almost like this 'S' design:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5848/supermanclassicbywayano.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/supermanclassicbywayano.jpg/)

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Steve

[Art_of_Crime]

i keep hearing people say they hope he gets the suit, or flies this time. All I have to say is, man, no matter what happens or how many disappointments you face you guys never give up. I'm impressed, because there have been years and years of disappointments to overcome.

[B]

I've not been disappointed with the show.. or had any disappointments with it? I'd have stopped watching if I thought the show was disappointing the same way I've done with any other show I've been disappointed with.


It's on YT for those who can't view it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYTINirLRI



Thanks I saw it last night, looks very good. The unpowered fight scene looks very promising. :up:

[Art_of_Crime]

I've not been disappointed with the show.. or had any disappointments with it? I'd have stopped watching if I thought the show was disappointing the same way I've done with any other show I've been disappointed with.
thats what happened to me.

[Superfreak]

Sending the Kandorians to different dimensions and parrallel universe can really get confusing. Just send them to a damn planet, lol! I have trouble calling it a Book.... its more like the Disc of Rao

Now that you mention it, Blue K is suppose to strip Kandorians of their powers were they can pass as humans, so Clark could use the Book of Rao, but with him and Zod still one Earth as long as their holding blue K at that time....


no more confusing than sending them to the PZ.

as someone pointed out here a while ago, I'm hoping that Major Zod, and the phantom General Zod somehow combine into Major General Zod.

but alas, the spoiler/description that says Chloe is trying to reactivate Watchtower's satelite uplink, makes me think of the satelites used to broadcast red sunlight in the first half of the season... I hope this does not happen, and rob us of the superbattle that we so deserve after 9 years of nothing but tease

[Zorex]

Don't know if you guys see it or not, but the 'S' shield Clark see's, which i presume is the actual Superman Shield is actually the traditional 'S' design, not the SR/SMALLVILLE re design that they have been using since season 6. Wonder why?.

It looks almost like this 'S' design:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5848/supermanclassicbywayano.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/supermanclassicbywayano.jpg/)

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Steve
Like I said earlier, we could be looking at an unfinished or temp effect.

[BojacRedleif]

I am very wary of this finale. They look like they're actually going to shake up the status-quo for the first time since the Lex Luthor stuff went down.

But again, this is Smallville.

They had a perfect opportunity back a few episodes with the Wonder Twins, with Lois over the edge of a building, but then they chickened out.

[Syncos]

I posted this a while back... it does look like its turning out that way with a few Martha/Red Queen lines...

It does sound somwhat similar, except it's the Book that sending the Kandorians to another dimension.

I wonder if the Blue K will somehow affect this with Clark and Zod.

I just assume this is leading to Smallville's version of New Krypton.
Guess we wont really know the details until next season.

[Webhead2006]

costume for me i would love if clark did wear something more in line to green arrow, impluse, cyborg's costumes. I am sure tom would be open to those types of outfits, in the past he said he was against tights, and well in the sv world heroes dont run around in "tights". So if its something in line to the jl outfits i would be happy(cape over hoodie lol).

As for the dimensional plane yea i am still thinking either phantom zone which would be nice place to dump the bad kandorians. Or as someone brought up on ksite boards/here the survivoral zone(i dont know anything about this zone myself). And if it ties into darkseid if thats who they are going with i cant wait to see what they do there.

I still think if they go with darkseid it can work out. Its all about how they want to tackle the character. If its a monster suit like doomsday it would be cool. if they went with that route yea i would only want to see him phsyically for maybe 2-3 episodes over the season with his minions playing the more leading role with attacks on earth.

Or if they go with an actual actor and maybe get someone around tom welling size and make him seem a little bit bigger, and with a proper costume it could work out. As to how much we see of him counts on what they want to do with storyline. Also i do want to see intergang/checkmate also be some threats to go against in between the darkseid storyline(if its darkseid we are getting).

[Man of Tomorrow]

I just assume this is leading to Smallville's version of New Krypton.
Guess we wont really know the details until next season.

I'm not sure about that. A New Krypton would mean the Kandorian thing would continue next season.

This Book of Rao/Dimensional Plane thing sounds like their way of ditching the Kandorians for good and burying this plotline.

There's also no point keeping the Kandorian thing going if Callum Blue/Zod does indeed die in the finale as predicted.

[Prison Mike]

When Martha mentioned that the Book of Rao would be a way to send the Kandorians to another dimension/plane of existence, I figured it would be a way to end the Kandorian storyline and introduce the Apokolipse storyline. Maybe some one from there will enter our dimension when it's open up?

[Webhead2006]

yup that is how i see it too prison mike.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Darkseid was actually based off Jack Palance visually. The resemblence is evident. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001588/

http://www.kevinwolf.com/images/jackpalance.jpghttp://www.wildestwesterns.com/images/issue_7_images/jack_palance.jpg


I'm trying to think of a modern actor that has a similar look.

Under prothetics, I think Clancy Brown could be a menacing Darkseid, given his voice and height. But given the show's budget, the prothetics is better left for a movie IMO.

http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr100109447/100109447_a841da5e-2dba-442b-8a60-c61677326b3e-deepend-brown.jpg

[KBX]

Clancy Brown might be a little to high price for Smallvilles small, small budget. Though someone mentioned Christopher Judge from the SG-1 fame, which is interesting since he is in-laws with Erica Durance. Maybe she would put in a good word, if they do decide to use Darkseid....

[Man of Tomorrow]

I was the one who mentioned Christopher Judge.

He's a big dude, but I'm not really sold on him as a villain actor. He would have been a decent Martian Manhunter. I don't really like his metro facial look for Darkseid.

I didn't like the idea. I just said it sounds right up Smallville's alley, especially since Erica Durance played his love interest on SG-1. Personally, I wouldn't be up for casting an "African-American" actor as "Mr. Dark Side" if he's appearing in human form all season. Seems kinda silly and racist.

[KBX]

Oh... well kudos for mentioning him!

Whomever they cast, Im sure we really don't know how well the actor will do, until he does it. Whether its Judge or Brown. His metro facial look? just look at your avatar, he looks like Darkseid without the prothestics!

I don't see how casting an "African-American" actor as Darkseid is racist. If hes good enough to do the role, thats all that matters. Black or white. Im picturing Judge as Darkseid in his full get-up, not as the boss, Mr. Dark Side. Im probably one of the few who doesn't want to see the Mr. Dark Side route, cause well.... it'll be stupid.

[Superfreak]

I've not been disappointed with the show.. or had any disappointments with it? I'd have stopped watching if I thought the show was disappointing the same way I've done with any other show I've been disappointed with.

I'd like to swing that the other way: I've never been fully disappointed by Smallville, but I certainly have never been impressed in the opposite direction either. Never been wowed, by the plot, or by the visuals, or by the delivery.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I don't like the "Dark Side" route either, but he's bound to be in human form most of the time unfortunately, this is SV.

The other reason I'm not feeling an African-American actor for human Darkseid is Orion, Darkseid's son, is a White dude with ginger hair. It would be strange to see father and son in human form but completely different ethnicities onscreen.

If they are bringing in Darkseid, I doubt they'll resist bringing in Orion too.

[AgentPat]

The other reason I'm not feeling an African-American actor for human Darkseid is Orion, Darkseid's son, is a White dude with ginger hair. Meh. In the comics, Pete is Caucasian and Lana is a redhead, so I don't see race or hair color as being an issue. As everybody loves to point out (both positively and negatively), this is Smallville after all.

All that said, I hope they ease up on bringing other DC characters into the show. Depending on the episode, Smallville can be less about Clark Kent and more about being a platform for DC Comic character exposition. I'm pretty tired of it, actually. I do hope the last season will truly focus on Clark and not his "super friends" - powered or otherwise.

[Superfreak]

I don't like the "Dark Side" route either, but he's bound to be in human form most of the time unfortunately, this is SV.

The other reason I'm not feeling an African-American actor for human Darkseid is Orion, Darkseid's son, is a White dude with ginger hair. It would be strange to see father and son in human form but completely different ethnicities onscreen.

If they are bringing in Darkseid, I doubt they'll resist bringing in Orion too.

Yet DS in the comics is a giant 'rock man' while Orion is a normal looking human? I really don't see your point.

I don't see any of this leading to darksied. And I kind of don't want to see this leading to darksied. They made a fair attempt at Doomsday, but failed to deliver in the end. Do they really have what it takes to deliver DS/Apokolipse in it's proper glory and scale? (it's a rhetorical question, because achieving a convincing Darksied/Apokolipse would be difficult even in a fully funded full length feature film)

[Man of Tomorrow]

Yet DS in the comics is a giant 'rock man' while Orion is a normal looking human? I really don't see your point.

I don't see any of this leading to darksied. And I kind of don't want to see this leading to darksied. They made a fair attempt at Doomsday, but failed to deliver in the end. Do they really have what it takes to deliver DS/Apokolipse in it's proper glory and scale? (it's a rhetorical question, because achieving a convincing Darksied/Apokolipse would be difficult even in a fully funded full length feature film)

My point is race is irrelevant if Darkseid appears as a giant 'rock man' using prosthetics onscreen.

However, if Darkseid appears as a human throughout the season (and this is likely), it would make more sense for the ethnicities of him and his son to be consistent.

[Superfreak]

My point is race is irrelevant if Darkseid appears as a giant 'rock man' using prosthetics onscreen.

However, if Darkseid appears as a human throughout the season (and this is likely), it would make more sense for the ethnicities of him and his son to be consistent.

Darkseid shouldn't ever appear as 'human', that's what his goons are for. That's half of the threat of Apokolipse, that not only is DS omnipotent, but he's also got a whole world of minions to use as canon fodder. Use granny goodness or some other apokoliptic agent as the DS representative. (and they already pulled that budget 1/2 human, 1/2 monster BS with Doomsday already.) Better to use DS as DS, and use his 'human' goons to save the $$$$

[Man of Tomorrow]

You're preaching to the choir. I agree Darkseid as a human would be super lame.

But there's no other way SV could do him, I seriously doubt they'll have him in the full makeup all season.

We're bound to get humanoid Darkseid, just like Davis Bloome for Doomsday.

[The Incredible Hulk]

as someone pointed out here a while ago, I'm hoping that Major Zod, and the phantom General Zod somehow combine into Major General Zod.



He is the very model of a modern Major General? ;)

[Webhead2006]

Darkseid was actually based off Jack Palance visually. The resemblence is evident. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001588/

http://www.kevinwolf.com/images/jackpalance.jpghttp://www.wildestwesterns.com/images/issue_7_images/jack_palance.jpg


I'm trying to think of a modern actor that has a similar look.

Under prothetics, I think Clancy Brown could be a menacing Darkseid, given his voice and height. But given the show's budget, the prothetics is better left for a movie IMO.

http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr100109447/100109447_a841da5e-2dba-442b-8a60-c61677326b3e-deepend-brown.jpg

Yea i remember reading someone that darkseid's look was based off that actor. As for makeup/posthestic work. We could actually get around it. If for example actor is wearing a full body outfit and only part visual is their face. So then face work is easy for them to do like have him glowing eyes here and there like john jones and if he wears a helmet could cover most of the head too so face is only thing seen. Like for example if he was wearing an outfit like the gould soldier wore in sg1.

Also yea i do still like the idea of someone like chris judge as darkseid. Now yea when we were talking about it before i know in the comics darkseid is protrayed as like a 7th+ guy. But i think dropping his height to 6'3-6'7 range would work in the favor of the show. Now if we do get darkseid i really cant want to see what they go for darkseid and who they choose for the role.

Yea i also agree i would hate to see boss darkside route taken for darkseid if they use darkseid at all. I really think if we go the route like a smaller darkseid and him in a full body costume they can go with a regular actor, and also they can limit to us phsyically seeing darkseid to maybe lik 2-4 episodes of the season. With his human looking minions kalibak/granny(with female furies) and dasaad to play in more episodes.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Kalibak is human looking?

Uh..

http://www.batman-superman.com/superman/img/kalibak.gif

[KBX]

Yeah, Kalibak kinda looks like Keith David... :woot:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kRuD6zV4Fqs/S3IvbWceHPI/AAAAAAAAB4E/HpG9BavbeFc/s400/keith-david.jpghttp://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk35/lukeen_2008/157406-59702-kalibak_super.jpg

[MAN O STEEL]

I think what will happen in season 10 is we'll get Darkseid looking just like Doomsday did, full body suit & added effects & all that good stuff to pimp him out with. However given that they can't just have Darkseid in the show in all episodes because 1, it will cost to much & 2, Darkseid could practically rule the world & kill Clark in 1 episode at this point in Clark's life. So what I think will happen is next season as a whole will focus solely on Clark becoming Superman & another side story with maybe Intergang or something like that & Darkseid will be kinda the guy in the background manipulating thing's, pulling the strings, so to speak & eventually once Clark becomes Superman & takes to the skies & becomes the guy we all know, hopefully by the 3rd to last episode, Darkseid will realise he needs to face Superman head on & a 2/3 episode of Arc for the coming forth of Darkseid himself. Eventually of course being defeated by Superman.......for now & Ending the season with the theme & a good shirt rip. Badda bing badda boom.




Steve

[KBX]

You know what would be funny....

...if Darkseid isn't Smallvilles season 10 baddie... all this talking for nothing! lol

[SrsBsns]

I pray all this talk of Darkseid will be for nothing.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Same here.

[Dave_W]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7539/69717923.png

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

If that's meant to be a reflection in his eyes...then it's back to front!
:woot:

[DrMylesOBoogie]

I had a dream that Clark ditched the blalck outfit and got a Superman costume similiar to Spidey's proto suit in terms of material but minus the \S/ and the cape had a red hood attached. Sounds lame but it looked amazing in the dream.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Darkseid shouldn't ever appear as 'human', that's what his goons are for. That's half of the threat of Apokolipse, that not only is DS omnipotent, but he's also got a whole world of minions to use as canon fodder. Use granny goodness or some other apokoliptic agent as the DS representative. (and they already pulled that budget 1/2 human, 1/2 monster BS with Doomsday already.) Better to use DS as DS, and use his 'human' goons to save the $$$$Grant Morrison had Darkseid using Dan turpin's body as a vessell before. They might go a similiar route. The thought isn't very appealing to me tho but I also thoguht i'd hate the changes made to Doomsday but ended up liking them.

[spawnjack01]

If that's meant to be a reflection in his eyes...then it's back to front!
:woot:

I don't think they would make that stupid mistake:) I think the whole future vision is just manifested in Clarks mind from the fortress. So that is probably the whole transition we get with the camera zooming out from the vision out to Clark in the fortress in present time. Wouldn't surprise me knowing the history of the season's finales if they end the whole episode and season with that scene.

On another note. I'm kinda bugged about the book of rao. It's sad that even the kryptonians were using the cheap plug-in sale pitch.

CLARK TO JOR-EL:
Why wasn't I told about this before?!

JOR-EL:
Well, my son, you didn't start the fortress with the much favorable "Book Of Rao" Plug-In. Without it you actually got the stripped down beta version of the fortress. Now all you have to do is register online and we can get started!:woot:

[Johnny]

Darkseid appears in human form in the comics, I don't see what the problem is if he has one here, too. The Boss Darkside persona is the obvious choice they may take for a Smallville version of Darkseid.

[Superfreak]

You're preaching to the choir. I agree Darkseid as a human would be super lame.

But there's no other way SV could do him, I seriously doubt they'll have him in the full makeup all season.

We're bound to get humanoid Darkseid, just like Davis Bloome for Doomsday.

nonsense, lets be serious here. Darksied doesn't need to be in anymore than 3 episodes.

1) he needs to be in an intro episode, that probably ends with his reveal at the finale of that episode... showing him as the man behind the earthbound villains clark would be currently facing off against. 2)he needs to be in the 'Darksied' is coming episode and 3) he needs to be in the season/series finale to fight clark.

There really is no point in having Darksied in Smallville anymore than that. Any other apokoliptic interaction should be between Clark, and the apokoliptic agents which are preparing the way for Darksied to arrive.

also, to be perfectly honest, if SV tried to have Darksied in a majority of the episodes of season 10... they will do what they always do: water down the characters so that they can fit in the overly melodramatic soapy frame that SV is famous for (Davis Bloomsday was a serious casualty of this concept, Mxtlyplitic as well)

[Superfreak]

I pray all this talk of Darkseid will be for nothing.

indeed, I hope it's just fan boys jumping at the word. They have used it twice, so the question is: is it because they are leading the audience in Darksied's direction, or is it their lack of vocabulary?

[Young Superman]

i just hope zod and the kandorians are defeated and we get a new villian in season 10.

[Man of Tomorrow]

nonsense, lets be serious here. Darksied doesn't need to be in anymore than 3 episodes.

1) he needs to be in an intro episode, that probably ends with his reveal at the finale of that episode... showing him as the man behind the earthbound villains clark would be currently facing off against. 2)he needs to be in the 'Darksied' is coming episode and 3) he needs to be in the season/series finale to fight clark.

There really is no point in having Darksied in Smallville anymore than that. Any other apokoliptic interaction should be between Clark, and the apokoliptic agents which are preparing the way for Darksied to arrive.

That's your opinion..

BUT

This:

also, to be perfectly honest, if SV tried to have Darksied in a majority of the episodes of season 10... they will do what they always do: water down the characters so that they can fit in the overly melodramatic soapy frame that SV is famous for (Davis Bloomsday was a serious casualty of this concept, Mxtlyplitic as well)

is the realistic outcome.

[Superfreak]

That's your opinion..

BUT

This:



is the realistic outcome.

we need a new word here: Smallvillistic.

I suppose it is the most likely outcome, and also the worst.

[Webhead2006]

screen captures of salvation preview clip:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationclip1.htm

I still say if we alter look of darkseid a bit with a regular actor in a costume we could probably get a cool looking darkseid. And have him playing a big role in the season. Though if they did go the route of a full on monster costume like doomsday was. Then yea i would limit seeing darkeid for only a few episodes. Then have his minions play the bigger role leading to his arrival and all that. I still think kalibak/granny/dasaad can all easily work out within the realm of the show. I still would hate to see boss dark side route taken since we seen human form/possesion so many times already in the show. As i said in my other posts we can easily do darkseid.

We just have to work around it a bit. Either drop his height/build to a guy around welling's size and in a suitable costume it could all work. YEa i do agree we dont need to have darkseid be in 13-22 episodes of the season. at most around 5 would be suitable, all counting on if its a monster suit deal for him or a real actor and all that. But then have the bulk of darkseid story by his minions. Which we could get some good episodes with 1-2 episodes of said minions coming in and taking on the kryptonian on earth, and the whole anti life equation thing and all that.

[Superfreak]

screen captures of salvation preview clip:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationclip1.htm

I still say if we alter look of darkseid a bit with a regular actor in a costume we could probably get a cool looking darkseid. And have him playing a big role in the season. Though if they did go the route of a full on monster costume like doomsday was. Then yea i would limit seeing darkeid for only a few episodes. Then have his minions play the bigger role leading to his arrival and all that. I still think kalibak/granny/dasaad can all easily work out within the realm of the show. I still would hate to see boss dark side route taken since we seen human form/possesion so many times already in the show. As i said in my other posts we can easily do darkseid.

We just have to work around it a bit. Either drop his height/build to a guy around welling's size and in a suitable costume it could all work. YEa i do agree we dont need to have darkseid be in 13-22 episodes of the season. at most around 5 would be suitable, all counting on if its a monster suit deal for him or a real actor and all that. But then have the bulk of darkseid story by his minions. Which we could get some good episodes with 1-2 episodes of said minions coming in and taking on the kryptonian on earth, and the whole anti life equation thing and all that.


totally agree. Darksied's minions should pave the way for his arrival. I look at the way TAS introduced him. Intergang, supplied by Manhiem, who is in turn supplied by Kanto of Apokolipse, we get a glimpse of DS at the end. We then had to wait a third of the entire series before we got Kalibak on Earth, DS shows again, but only for a moment. Then after waiting 1/6 of the series, we got 4 back to back episodes all about apokolipse... and the initial invasion attempt. We then waited another 1/3 of the entire series before the finale against DS.

all in all, TAS devoted 8/52 episodes to Apokolipse. Of which DS took an active role (ie. more than a shot) in 4/52. For approximation, 15% of the series was devoted to Apokolipse episodes, and less than 10% had Darksied in it for more than just a shot.

by that measure, if they devote 8 - 9 episodes to the central narrative involving Apokolipse (the other 11-13 filled with, filler) I'd only want to see DS in maybe 3-4 episodes, if even that many. With that, they'd have devoted much more proportional episode time to apokolipse, just under 50% of the season, with just under 25% of the season including DS in an active role.

Darkseid in human form is just not cool. The cost of the costume shouldn't really be an issue, unless they're paying $3000 for a jacket again. They should in theory be able to strip down (ie. remove the bones from) the Doomsday Costume they already have, and put some clothes on it. Visually, DD and DS are pretty similar, minus the bones.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Darkseid's role should be similiar to The Master from season 1 of Buffy. have his lair in apokalips as the only place you see him until he decides to head to earth near the seasons end.

[B]

Darkseid's role should be similiar to The Master from season 1 of Buffy. have his lair in apokalips as the only place you see him until he decides to head to earth near the seasons end.

I like this idea :up:

I'd have him sitting/standing always just out of view or in the shadows giving orders.. the way Clark has been this season in scenes with Lois, you can only really see his glowing eyes & his boots (Darkseid I mean).

Considering how good Doomsday actually looked considering Smallville's TV budget, I'd say they can pull Darkseid off quite easily & do the character justice, no pun, look wise. :up:

[Superfreak]

now you guys are getting it. I agree on the 'Master' analogy... it's the best way to go.

[Johnny]

Now that's a good idea. ;)

[Young Superman]

Agreed

[elgaz]

I'm getting quite excited about the finale.

The rain and slow-mo look of the Zod/Clark fight is very reminiscent of The Matrix: Revolutions final fight with Neo and Smith, bar the poor CGi. Looks quite cool.

Will be interesting to see what they do with the Tess character as she looks to be very badly injured in this.

Hopefully the fight scene will be worth of the watching this time and they won't cut it prematurely like they did with Clark/Doomsday.

[Webhead2006]

one thing we should be happy for with this finale. Is the return of former producer/director greg beeman directing the finale. He has done some great episodes in the past. So i am sure he will do a good episode this time.

[Prison Mike]

Who is writing the finale? Personally, I feel the writing helps determine whether the episode is a success or not. Don't get me wrong, direction is very important too. I'm just more interested in the writers.

[Dark_Lord]

More Images (http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationgallery23.htm) and the Preview Clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9NZsP1kl3U&fmt=18)

[Zorex]

More Images (http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationgallery23.htm) and the Preview Clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9NZsP1kl3U&fmt=18)
Al Septien & Turi Meyer
Who is writing the finale? Personally, I feel the writing helps determine whether the episode is a success or not. Don't get me wrong, direction is very important too. I'm just more interested in the writers.
Cool clip! Aw dang, Lois may be on to something with Clark... hopefully... I mean, really, really hopefully... shake things up!

[John Locke]

Looking at the pictures and the clip. It looks like Lois is going to find out Clark's secret. Anyone else worried by this. I mean the last time an iconic character found out Clark's secret was Jimmy. Let's just hope this Lois isn't Henrietta Lane.

[ironman29758]

Looking at the pictures and the clip. It looks like Lois is going to find out Clark's secret. Anyone else worried by this. I mean the last time an iconic character found out Clark's secret was Jimmy. Let's just hope this Lois isn't Henrietta Lane.
well the producers said the scene is in the dark so she might not see Clark.

[Prison Mike]

Looking at the pictures and the clip. It looks like Lois is going to find out Clark's secret. Anyone else worried by this. I mean the last time an iconic character found out Clark's secret was Jimmy. Let's just hope this Lois isn't Henrietta Lane.

If that happened, I would go through the 5 stages of grief.

[Zorex]

Looking at the pictures and the clip. It looks like Lois is going to find out Clark's secret. Anyone else worried by this. I mean the last time an iconic character found out Clark's secret was Jimmy. Let's just hope this Lois isn't Henrietta Lane.
BAHAHA. Henrietta Lane. LOVE IT. :up:

[Milos]

From Twitter

@alseptien Nothing so far indicates that Chloe will have any part in Salvation. How sad! What's in it for the Chloe fans? Nothing apparently
@iliana_1 re'Untrue!! Chloe's a big part of Salvation! And... thes Chlollie!!

@alseptien can you describe in one word Chloe and Oliver in the season finale (Savation)
@Smallville_MS Heroes

[Zorex]

Ugh.

I enjoy Chloe for the most part, but Holy Moses, it seems like all the questions anyone asks about the show anymore (or the only ones that get published) are about Chloe. Where's Chloe? What happens to Chloe? How does Chloe fit in? Is this related to Chloe somehow? What about Chloe?

For God's sake, the show is about Clark Kent becoming Superman.

Sorry, I just get miffed about it when we could be getting quality teases about, y'know, things in the finale that matter.

[Young Superman]

Agreed Zorex

[SpideyVille]

Ugh.

I enjoy Chloe for the most part, but Holy Moses, it seems like all the questions anyone asks about the show anymore (or the only ones that get published) are about Chloe. Where's Chloe? What happens to Chloe? How does Chloe fit in? Is this related to Chloe somehow? What about Chloe?

For God's sake, the show is about Clark Kent becoming Superman.

Sorry, I just get miffed about it when we could be getting quality teases about, y'know, things in the finale that matter.
Didn't you hear? Smallville is actually a show about Chloe Sullivan, in which Clark Kent makes a few cameo appearances. :p

But seriously, I'm not part of the group that wants to see Chloe die or anything, but it is weird to see most of the news that comes out about the show revolve around a character who's only really considered the second major character because she's been on it the longest. Although I will say it's probably like that because they choose to publish things about everyone except Clark since they don't want to spoil or reveal too much about him.

[zerohour films]

Right there with you Zorex. I am completely amazed at the amount of questions, etc devoted to the character in articles and teases.

Just crazy.

[The Caped Knight]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7539/69717923.png

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

It's about freaking Time :wow::woot:

[Prison Mike]

From Twitter

@alseptien Nothing so far indicates that Chloe will have any part in Salvation. How sad! What's in it for the Chloe fans? Nothing apparently
@iliana_1 re'Untrue!! Chloe's a big part of Salvation! And... thes Chlollie!!

@alseptien can you describe in one word Chloe and Oliver in the season finale (Savation)
@Smallville_MS Heroes

oh thank god. I was afraid this episode was going to focus on the main character...[/sarcasm]

[Webhead2006]

nice additional photos for the episode. Also seeing the preview clip was nice. Cant wait to see what happens there. As for the writers they have done some good episodes this season. So i am ok with them doing the finale.

As for the lois stuff i doubt she will ever know fore sure. ITs been stated time and time again by the producers they cant have lois know. Plus i still think its one of the last blocks on the show from dc comics too. Plus looking at it she shouldnt know its clark yet to he is actually in the red and blues and called superman.

[Serene]

ugh.

I enjoy chloe for the most part, but holy moses, it seems like all the questions anyone asks about the show anymore (or the only ones that get published) are about chloe. Where's chloe? What happens to chloe? How does chloe fit in? Is this related to chloe somehow? what about chloe?

for god's sake, the show is about clark kent becoming superman.

Sorry, i just get miffed about it when we could be getting quality teases about, y'know, things in the finale that matter.


qft.

[Man of Tomorrow]

No..no no

This "I can't look" business is stupid and lame. So Lois has to intentionally avert her eyes anytime the Blur appears before her? Erg.

It's even more forced that Lois wants to not see his face now.. how convenient.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/990/kdkd3.jpg

[Brainiac 8]

Actually her making that decision relieves Clark of any guilt about lieing to her. I thought it was a clever way to work around the idea that Clark basically took that choice from her in the comics.

[Brainiac 8]

From Twitter

@alseptien Nothing so far indicates that Chloe will have any part in Salvation. How sad! What's in it for the Chloe fans? Nothing apparently
@iliana_1 re'Untrue!! Chloe's a big part of Salvation! And... thes Chlollie!!

@alseptien can you describe in one word Chloe and Oliver in the season finale (Savation)
@Smallville_MS Heroes


For the love of God, Chloe isn't the most (or even fifth) most important character in Clark's story.

These people drive me crazy.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I found it more awkward and contrived than clever, especially Lois' dialogue to Clark about the Blur in "Charade" and why she suddenly can't know his identity.

In Charade, Lois' excuse about the Blur had me rolling my eyes when she said that he's trying to protect her by not revealing himself and people would come after her if she knew. I know it serves the plot conveniently, but it just seemed like a massive leap for Lois to take. She barely knows this guy and has only interacted with him VERY briefly via phone, and she's suddenly an expert on him and his motivations. The Blur never even reinforced any of these ideas that Lois has of him via their phone conversations.

I know this was the reason Clark used to 'protect' Jimmy Olsen in Identity, but it seemed bizarre for Lois (who has barely interacted with The Blur) to be saying it.

And now she's going to avert her eyes and turn the other way every time the Blur comes near her? :doh: It's just silly and forced.

[Brainiac 8]

Not sure I haven't watched the last two episodes yet, so I'm not sure how they followed through. I thought it was a fantastic scene in Charade though.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Ugh.

I enjoy Chloe for the most part, but Holy Moses, it seems like all the questions anyone asks about the show anymore (or the only ones that get published) are about Chloe. Where's Chloe? What happens to Chloe? How does Chloe fit in? Is this related to Chloe somehow? What about Chloe?

For God's sake, the show is about Clark Kent becoming Superman.

Sorry, I just get miffed about it when we could be getting quality teases about, y'know, things in the finale that matter.

I blame Craig from K-Site. While I love the news part of his site and of course the episode reviews ;) This stupidity festers over in his messageboards and he plays it up to his advantage. And considering that his site is the only ones TPTB ever seem to read, they actually cater parts of the show to this dim-witted, overly-vocal minority of the fanbase.

[KalKai]

No..no no

This "I can't look" business is stupid and lame. So Lois has to intentionally avert her eyes anytime the Blur appears before her? Erg.

It's even more forced that Lois wants to not see his face now.. how convenient.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/990/kdkd3.jpg

You do realize that that is in total darkness right? She'd never be able to get a clear look at his face either way.

[Prison Mike]

I found it more awkward and contrived than clever, especially Lois' dialogue to Clark about the Blur in "Charade" and why she suddenly can't know his identity.

In Charade, Lois' excuse about the Blur had me rolling my eyes when she said that he's trying to protect her by not revealing himself and people would come after her if she knew. I know it serves the plot conveniently, but it just seemed like a massive leap for Lois to take. She barely knows this guy and has only interacted with him VERY briefly via phone, and she's suddenly an expert on him and his motivations. The Blur never even reinforced any of these ideas that Lois has of him via their phone conversations.

I know this was the reason Clark used to 'protect' Jimmy Olsen in Identity, but it seemed bizarre for Lois (who has barely interacted with The Blur) to be saying it.

And now she's going to avert her eyes and turn the other way every time the Blur comes near her? :doh: It's just silly and forced.

What I want to know is, why would the Blur's enemies go after Lois if she knows his secret identity? How would they even know that she knows? Unless she makes a big announcement in The Daily Planet. Honestly, the only way his enemies would go after Lois is if they find out Clark is The Blur. Everyone knows that Clark and Lois are going out so they would use that to their advantage. But I don't know why she would think knowing his secret identity would put her in harm's way. It's one of those old myths/excuses comic books use to keep the hero away from their love interest.

[Brainiac 8]

C'mon Mike, you know those answers. It's the same reason Lois is always in danger in the comics. No villian knows that she is married to Superman, but they know that as a reporter she is who he goes to for interviews and that he always saves her. It automatically makes her a target.

I would say the same principle applies in the Smallvilleverse.

Also if her big speech in "Idol" wasn't a self painted target, I don't know what is.

[Prison Mike]

But it's different this time since nobody really knows about The Blur. I don't think it's as transparent yet to the entire world that Lois loves the Blur. I don't know, but until he comes out as Superman and remains in the dark...I think it could work if Lois knew Clark was the Blur.

[HoodedAvenger12]

Guys Al Septien talks about all the characters on his twitter account, not just Chloe. Its just that going by his/her post this Milos person is a major Chloe fan, so of course they only posted his tweet about Chloe.

[HoodedAvenger12]

What I want to know is, why would the Blur's enemies go after Lois if she knows his secret identity? How would they even know that she knows? Unless she makes a big announcement in The Daily Planet. Honestly, the only way his enemies would go after Lois is if they find out Clark is The Blur. Everyone knows that Clark and Lois are going out so they would use that to their advantage. But I don't know why she would think knowing his secret identity would put her in harm's way. It's one of those old myths/excuses comic books use to keep the hero away from their love interest.
I took it more along the lines that people are always going to be going after Lois to find out who the Blur is, since she told the whole world she knew him in Idol. But as long as Lois doesn't know who he is or what he looks like, no one will ever be able to get the info about who he is out of her.

[Prison Mike]

You know what, I forgot she told everyone she knew him in Idol. That completely invalidates my point. :csad:

[Brainiac 8]

I took it more along the lines that people are always going to be going after Lois to find out who the Blur is, since she told the whole world she knew him in Idol. But as long as Lois doesn't know who he is or what he looks like, no one will ever be able to get the info about who he is out of her.

Danke, worded in a much better way than I did it.

So yea, agreed.

[Man of Tomorrow]

You do realize that that is in total darkness right? She'd never be able to get a clear look at his face either way.

Haven't read those spoilers but if it is totally dark, it wouldn't be as bad.

I just didn't like Lois intentionally having to look the other way when the Blur is around, like in "Charade."


I took it more along the lines that people are always going to be going after Lois to find out who the Blur is, since she told the whole world she knew him in Idol. But as long as Lois doesn't know who he is or what he looks like, no one will ever be able to get the info about who he is out of her.


The only problem with that is, in "Charade"... her speech to Clark about that happened before Maxwell Lord captured her.

Before she could have known about the mind control technology, and she doesn't even remember the Summerholt stuff from "Pandora."

So why would she assume that her knowing the Blur's identity would be a danger to the Blur? Why would she assume that someone could extract the knowledge out of her without her willing it?

That was another reason why I felt her speech came out of left field there.

[Johnny]

At k-site they speculate that the S10 villain hint may turn out to be Otis(Lex's idiotic bumbling stumbling sidekick from the old Superman films). At 0:32 in the clip where Lois snoops through the journal, down on the left page you can see 4 symbols that closely resemble the name "Otis". I REALLY hope that's not the case, cuz that's just ridiculous.

[Brainiac 8]

I'm thinking they may have thrown that in as a goof for those who like to look up what the words mean, but I highly doubt that he will be the villian.

This is the same people who still think that Chloe will change her name to Lois, so their theories don't hold much water.

[DIRECTOR]

I just saw some preview pics from the finale, are the really trying to pull off a TwoFace/Dark Knight scene in Smallville, because her makeup looks all fully like TwoFace's

[Prison Mike]

Perhaps there will finally be an Otisburg!

[HoodedAvenger12]

To be fair to Ksite, its been mostly taken over by Clois fans. Sure there are still a few die hard Chloe fans, but the Clark/Lois fans outnumber them by a good bit.

[Johnny]

I'm thinking they may have thrown that in as a goof for those who like to look up what the words mean, but I highly doubt that he will be the villian.

This is the same people who still think that Chloe will change her name to Lois, so their theories don't hold much water.

Man, I so hope you're right.

[KBX]

http://www.fancast.com/tv/Smallville/91885/1490946985/SalvationPreview/videos

[Brainiac 8]

Yowch! :eek:

[Webhead2006]

cool zod/tess clip, now we know why she is all banged up from those preview photos.

[The Incredible Hulk]

anyone else find the scream at the end funny? :D

[Webhead2006]

yea it was but what would u be doing if you where getting blasted by heat vision in your face.

[Prison Mike]

how did she get to see the future? Did Jor-El do it or was it the Book of Rao that made her see what Zod would do if he ruled the world?

[KBX]

Wasn't it the time Tess kidnapped Lois, hooked up her and herself up to a machine, with the help of Stuart Campbell, and went through Lois's memories??

[Prison Mike]

But that was back in Pandora. Why confront Zod about it now? She even slept with him knowing all this could happen.

[Zorex]

Because she's a crazy person. Crazy people act crazy and do crazy things.

[Brainiac 8]

But that was back in Pandora. Why confront Zod about it now? She even slept with him knowing all this could happen.


Because she's attracted to powerful people and mistakingly thinks she can control said powerful people, and usually gets in way over her head (ie: Checkmate, Clark, Zod, and Lex).

All four of these people and/or organizations she felt she could control and use their power for herself or her own agenda, just to find out that she was in no way shape or form capable of handling them.

It's almost like a disease to her.

[Milos]

Latest tweets

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe have a cliffhanger?
@Jory_1 (http://twitter.com/Jory_1) it's a finale. everyone has cliffhangers

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will we have more than one #Chlollie (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chlollie) scene to look forward to?
@notaclarkfan1 (http://twitter.com/notaclarkfan1) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe have more then 5min of screentime in this upcoming episode?
@CharmedPhoebe (http://twitter.com/CharmedPhoebe) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) As a Chloe fan, will I like what happens to her in the finale or will I be calling you an evil man?
@Jory_1 (http://twitter.com/Jory_1) I don't think you will call me evil... but if u do, u wouldn't be the first : )

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe end on a happy note unlike last seasons final?
@CharmedPhoebe (http://twitter.com/CharmedPhoebe) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Please tell us Chlark fans there is something good for us in the finale! A hug? Don't break our record for hug every season plz!
@go_clo (http://twitter.com/go_clo) good scenes, but new and different.

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) How hot is the Chloe/Oliver kiss from Salvation on a scale from 1 to 10? Please!! #Smallville (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Smallville) rocks
@lorrainecollins (http://twitter.com/lorrainecollins) you'll have to decide for yourself : )

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) gasps but you thought the Lois/Blur kiss was scalding
@lorrainecollins (http://twitter.com/lorrainecollins) i was having fun. but I think you'll be pleased: )

[Dark_Lord]

Yay! More Chloe related questions! :dry:

[Poetic Chaos]

I have a feeling Lois is gonna piss me off hardcore in the finale. Her obliviousness is gonna lead to some stupid decision that'll make me hate her the rest of the ep.

[HoodedAvenger12]

Latest tweets

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe have a cliffhanger?
@Jory_1 (http://twitter.com/Jory_1) it's a finale. everyone has cliffhangers

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will we have more than one #Chlollie (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chlollie) scene to look forward to?
@notaclarkfan1 (http://twitter.com/notaclarkfan1) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe have more then 5min of screentime in this upcoming episode?
@CharmedPhoebe (http://twitter.com/CharmedPhoebe) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) As a Chloe fan, will I like what happens to her in the finale or will I be calling you an evil man?
@Jory_1 (http://twitter.com/Jory_1) I don't think you will call me evil... but if u do, u wouldn't be the first : )

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Will Chloe end on a happy note unlike last seasons final?
@CharmedPhoebe (http://twitter.com/CharmedPhoebe) yes

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) Please tell us Chlark fans there is something good for us in the finale! A hug? Don't break our record for hug every season plz!
@go_clo (http://twitter.com/go_clo) good scenes, but new and different.

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) How hot is the Chloe/Oliver kiss from Salvation on a scale from 1 to 10? Please!! #Smallville (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Smallville) rocks
@lorrainecollins (http://twitter.com/lorrainecollins) you'll have to decide for yourself : )

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) gasps but you thought the Lois/Blur kiss was scalding
@lorrainecollins (http://twitter.com/lorrainecollins) i was having fun. but I think you'll be pleased: )
What a surprise, you only posted the ones involving Chloe.

[Milos]

What a surprise, you only posted the ones involving Chloe.

That's because I only look for Chloe tweets, I have no idea what the other ones are about, and don't care! :cool:
If you know more, why don't you post? :)

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.fancast.com/tv/Smallville/91885/1490946985/SalvationPreview/videos

:wow: Whoa

[Johnny]

Why is this guy answering so many Chloe questions? (I don't have anything against her btw) but wasn't the show's star Clark Kent? Maybe he didn't wanna spoil the most important stuff.

[Gweedo_of_Steel]

i would love to see darksied but i am also hopeing that in this one both jla and jsa members are in it cause a big battle is yet to come

[Webhead2006]

nice tweets, as for the chloe related stuff it looks like it was the topic of the folks who asked the question. So you can knock the producers/writers for answering the questions they are given.

[SpideyVille]

Martian Manhunter is still in this episode right? I'm kinda of wondering if, based on the pics of Lois and Clark, that even if they choose to have Clark reveal his secret or Lois find out, somehow someway MM is going to do a mind-wipe the same way he did in Checkmate.. I mean i'm kind of worried that that might be his only purpose in this episode which would really suck.

[KBX]

Yes, Martain Manhunter is in the episode. Along with Hawkman, Stargirl, Canary, and Cyborg. But most of them, if not all will only have cameos. Even less screentime than the Doomsday finale of last year.

[KalKai]

Canadian Space Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YnXJyiPJ9c)

[KalKai]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/43/temple.png

The Parthenon Temple

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7392/woc.png

The Great Wall of China

:D

[SpideyVille]

Canadian Space Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YnXJyiPJ9c)
Interesting, thanks for posting :up: .. but i wonder if that last bit was added by the user or something since it sounds just like the Superman Returns theme, which I doubt would be allowed for use on SV. Still, can't wait for Friday.

[KalKai]

That was done by Space.

[KalKai]

Usually Space trailers aren't misleading, on the contrary, they're pretty straight forward and get you right to the action, so that at the end..

IT IS CLARK IT'S GOTTA BE!

Clark will probably fly after seeing his destiny, and that'll be the last shot of the finale. I'm convinced.

Or maybe not.

We'll see.

:D

[KALEL114]

Careful. Last time a even suggested such a thing, I got the :whatever: of death from someone.

Seriously though, that trailer was awesome.

[Prison Mike]

even if that trailer was misleading, it's still a ****ing awesome trailer.

[Johnny]

Wow. Maybe Salvation really has the means to be "epic" after all. As I said - for me "Doomsday" wasn't as bad as it was for most of you, but what it did was make people not have that high expectations for the show anymore. But seriously, how can you not be pumped up after watching a trailer like this one? ;)

[SpideyVille]

Is it possible that the last line and flight comes as part of Clark seeing his destiny? I mean, it's either that or it's really just Zod flying. I still don't think Clark is going to fly just yet. Though it doesn't hurt to be hopeful.

[Binker]

I did a screengrab and brighten it and contrast; sadly, it's all red. It could be a red cape, or it just could be a red streak that every flying/superspeed character does (Zod/Clark). If you're right KalKal, and Space trailers don't misled, and that we're thinking and wanting is what we're thinking and wanting, then that must be Clark. If not, then I must ask; are you really surprised?

P.S. If that is Clark flying, and that's after the Book of Rao S-Shield image, then it just makes me wonder what the premise of Season 10 is going to be. Because it is the final one, and I wonder if that will be 100% Superman related/focused/etc than any other season prior. But then again, this is Smallville, all good dreams are never granted.

[elgaz]

I hope it is Clark.

The line - "Look! Up in the Sky...!" is an iconic Superman line, I'm not sure if it would feel right if they used it because someone spotted Zod. It's one of those lines that should always be reserved solely for the introduction of Superman himself.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Maybe it's Martian Manhunter? He has a red streak when flying.

PS: Is that Amanda Waller line and those Fortress scenes from "Sacrifice" ? They seemed familiar.

[KalKai]

What are you talking about? A screengrab of what? There is nothing there, only audio.

[Webhead2006]

wicked cool candian space channel promo for the finale. I always love space's promos they do some cool stuff.

[KalKai]

PS: Is that Amanda Waller line and those Fortress scenes from "Sacrifice" ? They seemed familiar.

Sounds like Tess to me.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Nevermind. There's a red streak on the screen throughout the promo.

It is a black screenshot, which could mean this "Up in the Sky" comment could be a reaction to anything.


Yeah, Tess makes more sense saying that line actually. It's hard to tell given the video quality. The line before that sounds like Chloe too.

[KalKai]

The line before that sounds like Chloe too.

That's clearly Lois.

[Binker]

What are you talking about? A screengrab of what? There is nothing there, only audio.

The last shot before the Smallville on "S" logo shows a small red...something when the "Look, up in the sky" line is heard.

[Webhead2006]

i think the promo just went to black there.

[KalKai]

That's the light of the camera Binker, LOL! :D

You can see it right at the start too.

[SpideyVille]

I keep hearing about this red streak in the vid, but doesn't it seem weird that the promo pics have Zod wearing a red shirt all of a sudden when he's been wearing all black like Clark ever since he got powers? Could it possibly be him?

On a side note: Didn't Eric (or whatever his name was) wear the exact same clothes, black jeans, red shirt and long black leather coat, back in season one when he got Clark's powers?

[TwilightPro101]

Digging the Space trailer! Hope the episode comes through with the action and story.

[KalKai]

I keep hearing about this red streak in the vid, but doesn't it seem weird that the promo pics have Zod wearing a red shirt all of a sudden when he's been wearing all black like Clark ever since he got powers? Could it possibly be him?

On a side note: Didn't Eric (or whatever his name was) wear the exact same clothes, black jeans, red shirt and long black leather coat, back in season one when he got Clark's powers?

:huh:

There. is. no. red. streak.

[Zorex]

I will be pretty upset if the "Look, up in the sky!" line is just an unrelated cheat that's not in the episode. Pretty cheeky going to black on the line, I like it.

[SpideyVille]

:huh:

There. is. no. red. streak.
LOL sorry FAIL on me.. i posted that not knowing there was another page of posts ... but I was at K-site earlier and people were posting about it there too so i thought it was true.

[Man of Tomorrow]

That's clearly Lois.

Is it?

On my computer it definitely sounds like Chloe.

I find it unlikely Lois would be lecturing Clark on leading his own people.

[zerohour films]

I will be pretty upset if the "Look, up in the sky!" line is just an unrelated cheat that's not in the episode. Pretty cheeky going to black on the line, I like it.

I know what you mean.

Something about that audio bugs me. It sounds an awful lot like the old Fleischer cartoons and Reeves television opening. Hopefully though it's not and is new audio within the show to go along with Clark's future glimpse.

[KBX]

Everytime I see a Canadian promo for Smallville I get even more pissed at the CW

"Maybe your true destiny is to lead your own people"

Chloe Sullivan is clearly saying this...

[Zorex]

I know what you mean.

Something about that audio bugs me. It sounds an awful lot like the old Fleischer cartoons and Reeves television opening. Hopefully though it's not and is new audio within the show to go along with Clark's future glimpse.
Exactly. It's undeniably cool in the context of the spot. The timing is great, and, like I said, having it over black is even more teaser-ifically awesome. I just hope it's actually in the episode, and not just a big ol' (cluck-cluck) tease.

That would just be mean if it is.

[UnionJack]

I really can't wait for this finale the whole season feels like its been building up to one massive moment and I really really hope it is what we all want?!

[B]

I can't wait to see this, I'm actually more excited to see an unpowered slugfest between Zod & Supes as opposed to a superpowered superbrawl between Supes & Doomy for some reason.

Trailer looks outstandingly good. I'm liking how Zod has actually got to a point where he is impersonating Clark with a \S/ t-shirt :up:

Question: Does it look like Callum Blue has abit of a beard in the last heat vision shot or is it just my eyes playing tricks on me?

2 days mofo's!

[B]

I hate that they've thrown in the line "look up in the sky" because now I can't help but feel excited that Clark might fly even though my head tells me he won't.. the gits know how to sell a trailer to hook Supes fans in don't they.. :D

[KBX]

Im excited as well, but still got to stay cautious. This is still Smallville, there is so much they can do, so go in with low expectations and you should be fine. I did that with Absolute Justice, and I thought it was Smallville best episodes all year.

Now K-site still has a spoiler that Clark gets a gift from an unexpected source. Im going with Tess gives him the BlueK dagger, so Zod won't have the advantage of flight once they fight....

[KBX]

Oh and those who want Zod being sent to the Phantom Zone. Im with you on it, just doesn't Zod now have Clarks blood in him, so wouldn't he be able to escape it with no problem?

[SpideyVille]

Exactly. It's undeniably cool in the context of the spot. The timing is great, and, like I said, having it over black is even more teaser-ifically awesome. I just hope it's actually in the episode, and not just a big ol' (cluck-cluck) tease.

That would just be mean if it is.
What really worries me though is that they play the Superman Returns theme right after that line. There's no way that that's part of the episode and maybe even the promo.

[KalKai]

Is it?

On my computer it definitely sounds like Chloe.

I find it unlikely Lois would be lecturing Clark on leading his own people.

Who said she's saying that to Clark? The trailer starts with Zod asking Lois for help, she's probably saying that to him.

The more I listen to it the more I'm convinced that it's not Chloe.

[KalKai]

What really worries me though is that they play the Superman Returns theme right after that line. There's no way that that's part of the episode and maybe even the promo.

Space do that ALL THE TIME, and why would that worry you? Such an irrelevant thing lol.

[Zorex]

What really worries me though is that they play the Superman Returns theme right after that line. There's no way that that's part of the episode and maybe even the promo.
Um, by "Superman Returns" theme, you mean the selection of the Superman "Main Title March," originally from "Superman: The Movie," right? Sorry, it's a technicality I just had to point out. I just feel that STM deserves that credit.

Well, if you've watched any of the Space promos for SV before, you know that they've been using that unmistakable \S/ background with their title cards for a long time, which is pretty much the opposite of CW's non-Superman-specific design for their (miniscule) marketing. It doesn't entirely surprise me that they used a bit of the "Main Title March" here. It doesn't surprise me, nor does it offend me. :) :up:

Regarding the "Look, up in the sky" soundbite, upon listening to it a couple more times, it occurs to me that it could come from whatever they show of Zod's soldiers trying to take over the planet. The sound quality isn't great, but it sounds like there's crowd commotion in the background of whoever is delivering the dialogue. My guess, now, is that the line comes from a scene or montage showing the soldiers' worldwide efforts at conquest. There, it'll be a scene of destruction and panic. Here, along with the music selection, it has a more optimistic, much more enticing effect.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Who said she's saying that to Clark? The trailer starts with Zod asking Lois for help, she's probably saying that to him.

The more I listen to it the more I'm convinced that it's not Chloe.

Fair enough, but it doesn't add up for me.

Why would Lois tell Zod that his "true purpose is to lead [his] own people?"

He already knows that and is doing that.

[KalKai]

Regarding the "Look, up in the sky" soundbite, upon listening to it a couple more times, it occurs to me that it could come from whatever they show of Zod's soldiers trying to take over the planet. The sound quality isn't great, but it sounds like there's crowd commotion in the background of whoever is delivering the dialogue. My guess, now, is that the line comes from a scene or montage showing the soldiers' worldwide efforts at conquest. There, it'll be a scene of destruction and panic. Here, along with the music selection, it has a more optimistic, much more enticing effect.

Before that line, you can hear a "crushing" sound, I don't know what that is.

The timing is key here. Who will Clark take care of 1st? Zod's soldiers or Zod himself? Does Clark fight Zod before or after he sees his destiny?