9.22 - Salvation SEASON FINALE Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[snookie16]

The four cliff hangers were great set up for next season.

1. If Lois is going to take the job offer from Perry White as foreign corrispondent.
2. Oliver dissappears leaving Chloe to go find him.
3. Is Tess really dead or not?
4. Clark fall from grace facing his destiny after the fight with Zod.

Can't wait see how these all play out next season. That is if the keep with the continuity of the finale. This was much better than Doomsday finale of season 8 that left a lot of things open ended. At least we don't have a confirmed death in this finale.

[SpiderByte]

It is very safe to assume that this is the final season.

Also, what other villains, aside from Granny Goodness and Darkseid, do you think will debut?

[COMPO]

I liked that Green Arrow was against a war, he was willing to fight but I think he agreed with Clark that it wasn't the answer.

[Prison Mike]

I don't think Lois will leave. Not when she just realized that Clark is The Blur.

[Brainiac 8]

No, Lois won't leave.

"They're not Kandorians!" :D

[Mikelus]

Lois is not going anywhere, that's obvious. Maybe Oliver and Tess will comeback working for Darkseid, I see Tess as a female fury. :woot:

Darkseid had Goodness run the training facility for his elite soldiers, where she uses brainwashing and torture, in a brutal parody of child care, to turn the innocent into fanatical warriors willing to kill or die for Darkseid's glory. Since the war between Apokolips and New Genesis first moved to Earth, Granny Goodness has often run Earthly orphanages, looking for potential warriors for Darkseid.

Granny runs the "orphanage" on Apokolips and is the chief of the Female Furies. She also raised Scott Free, the son of Highfather of New Genesis who had been traded for Darkseid's son as part of a peace treaty. Scott Free (AKA Mister Miracle) became the first child to successfully escape one of her Orphanages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Goodness

[Brainiac 8]

I would love to see Supergirl come back next year under Darkseid's control, in a Smallville version of that awesome story Loeb did in Superman/Batman.

[Zorex]

Anyone else here think that Beeman needs to direct the series finale?

:woot::supes::woot:
HELL YES.

This finale proved it, more than anything.

Greg Beeman for the 2-hour series finale! :up:

[SpideyVille]

Greg Beeman for the 2-hour series finale! :up:

Now that doesn't sound like a bad idea. :up:


I don't know if this was already mentioned, but I find it very awesome that Zod's final words were "Kneel Before Zod," and it didn't seem forced or anything.

[Hush]

Awesome. All i can utter after seeing it, Awesome. Oh and perfect.

[Darknightnomis]

Awesome Season Finale! The fight between Clark and Zod was Epic!

I didn't even think that the old lady in the hospital could be Granny Goodness till a friend of mine pointed it out for me. I might have to turn in my geek card. :yay:

Maybe she'll somehow turn Tess in Big Barda. how cool woudl that be and maybe have Scott Free (aka Mr. Miracle) on Smallville.

Also, I think it is Darksied's parademons that grabbed hold of Oliver!

Now how cool would it be for Clark to have to go to Apokolis to save Oliver!!!!!!

Great Season and man I can't wait for the next one.

[Zorex]

Yeah, the more I think about it (after having watched it 2 1/2 times this weekend), I think this is one of my favourite season finales, right next to Commencement.

It was not only a great episode of the show, but also a great end to the season, and a great cliffhanger into next year, all at once. I am now, more than ever, so excited for the SV ComicCon panel this year. The preview for next year is going to be off the hook.

[COMPO]

I don't think Clark will go to Apokolips... I think Oliver will turn up someone and be like DarkSieds spy and have him try to kill Clark so that he can invade unopposed.

[KBX]

If Clark is not able to save himself from falling with the BlueK dagger in his chest, one way to introduce this whole Darksied/Apokolips scenario is for someone like Orion to use a boomtube on him, then explain this oncoming threat...

[SpiderByte]

I don't think Clark will go to Apokolips... I think Oliver will turn up someone and be like DarkSieds spy and have him try to kill Clark so that he can invade unopposed.

Two things wrong with that.

1: Oliver would probably rather die than hurt his friends.

2: There is no possible way that Oliver could beat Clark. The only time he almost killed him at the beginning of Season 8 was because he was A: Not in his right mind at the time, and B: Clark had no powers.

[elgaz]

Just read a few more reviews of 'Salvation' online and they're ALL positive, most praising it. Think the cast and crew really knocked this one out of the park.

Kudos to the entire team for the great job they did not only in this episode, but with S9 in general. Yes, there were some weaker filler episodes - like you get with any show - but by and large, Season 9 was very well put together. Not many shows get into their 9th year, get relegated to Friday nights and suddenly catch a second breath.

I could be totally wide of the mark here, but I've a feeling that Tom Welling taking on a producer role was a huge bonus to Smallville this year. He's played Clark Kent for a long time now and has an emotional investment in the character, so I'm sure he wants to see him progress too - just like the fans.

[COMPO]

Two things wrong with that.

1: Oliver would probably rather die than hurt his friends.

2: There is no possible way that Oliver could beat Clark. The only time he almost killed him at the beginning of Season 8 was because he was A: Not in his right mind at the time, and B: Clark had no powers.

If he's brain washed, he's not in the right mind and plus I'd imagine if Oliver wasn't in the right mind he'd use Kryptonite to beat Clark.

However they could just have took him to question him or use his satellite?

[Nathan]

Two things wrong with that.

1: Oliver would probably rather die than hurt his friends.

2: There is no possible way that Oliver could beat Clark. The only time he almost killed him at the beginning of Season 8 was because he was A: Not in his right mind at the time, and B: Clark had no powers.

1: Brainwashing

2: Kryptonite arrows

Not saying it will happen, but if it were to happen, it could be easily explained.

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

Think the cast and crew really knocked this one out of the park.

Kudos to the entire team for the great job they did not only in this episode, but with S9 in general. Yes, there were some weaker filler episodes - like you get with any show - but by and large, Season 9 was very well put together. Not many shows get into their 9th year, get relegated to Friday nights and suddenly catch a second breath.



Full Agreed

[rob-el2]

I like the fact that Clark stabs himself and falls backwards thus allowing Zod to be zapped away by the Book of Rao - its not Zod stabbing Clark. I missed that the first time. Another step in the path to becoming Superman - the ultimate sacrifice.

[COMPO]

2bh throughtout this episode I noticed a few SR moments, the suit seemed like SR in the flash forward beginning and Clark falling off was like what happened with Superman in SR both after falling off the kryptonite mountain and falling to earth. Thought it was interesting but I didn't like the suit, I think its okay but I felt the top half was too long making Superman seem to have a really long torso and tiny legs.

[spideyboy_1111]

i still think people are extremely overanalyzing a .0001 second shot of a zoomed in CG reflection of superman....

[COMPO]

I never noticed it when watching it but seeing the screen caps thats what it looked like to me.

[spideyboy_1111]

yes, but it means nothing. stop analyzing it.

[greenlantern248]

Okay not to continue it but that second of CGI footage, people say is SR colors, you guys do know he is under a plane in the shade, of course the colors will be darker.

Another thing, Scott Free wasn't Highfather's son, Scott was born and raised on Apokolips and would always escape Granny's orphanage. Kalibak was Highfather's son and Orion was Darkseid's. They exchanged sons as their peace treaty.


Awesome finale though, loved every minute of it, let these 4 months fly by

[Nathan]

Oh, those 4 months will fly by. At least for me. The older you get, the quicker time appears to run.

[Webhead2006]

bats, we actually cant have captain marvel on the show, the episode warrior was originally planned to be captain marvel but they like ww/batman were not able to secure the rights to use the character. So that is why it was pretty much changed to smallville's fake superhero character warrior angel and all that.

As for other heroes yea it would be interesting if we saw someone like steel appear, but as for heroes i think some of the more lesser known characters have better shots in showing up in smallville then more of the bigger names. All mostly due to rights issues and all that.

Also i agree i loved that they didnt kill off all the kandorians. i was really thinking for awhile that was probably going to happen and it would just be clark and zod left. So its nice they are alive where ever they are. So in the future of this show's universe clark still has some kryptonians out there to possible see again in the future, if a two way door is invented to get to the kandorians. Which would also lead to ways for zod to pop up again to terrorize superman and all that.

As for season ten threats, i definately do want to see intergang played up again, hopefully bring back that bruno guy from season 8. Maybe return appearances of maxima/metallo/toyman for an episode to intermix with the darkseid storyline. As for darkseid and his minions as i said in the season ten thread i want to see darkseid, granny, kalibak, dasaad, female furies(at least one episode), definately see at least orion/mr.miracle/big brada for an episode, maybe steppenwolf for an episode, and parademons counting on what look they go for them. If tess does return i would be interested to see her turned into a female fury and clark trying to save her and bring her back to the good side, also definately would make for a fun episode to see either kara/canery/zatanna captured and brainwashed into a female fury.

I do agree tom as a producer this season was a great move. The show was great all season long. So i hope he keeps up the good work next season too. Though if his hellcats show is picked up i hope that doesnt interfere much with sv shot/production stuff. Also i agree for series finale i definately want the likes of beeman or marshall doing the finale episode.

[Syncos]

bats, we actually cant have captain marvel on the show, the episode warrior was originally planned to be captain marvel but they like ww/batman were not able to secure the rights to use the character. So that is why it was pretty much changed to smallville's fake superhero character warrior angel and all that.

Assuming the episode wasn't entirely re-written i'd assume maybe DC would have a problem with how that character was portrayed if it were Captain Marvel. He basically went crazy with power.

If they could get captain marvel, I'd like to see them take elements from Superman/Shazam: First Thunder. That book was great.


As for season ten threats, i definately do want to see intergang played up again, hopefully bring back that bruno guy from season 8. Maybe return appearances of maxima/metallo/toyman for an episode to intermix with the darkseid storyline. As for darkseid and his minions as i said in the season ten thread i want to see darkseid, granny, kalibak, dasaad, female furies(at least one episode), definately see at least orion/mr.miracle/big brada for an episode, maybe steppenwolf for an episode, and parademons counting on what look they go for them. If tess does return i would be interested to see her turned into a female fury and clark trying to save her and bring her back to the good side, also definately would make for a fun episode to see either kara/canery/zatanna captured and brainwashed into a female fury.

I think Tess is likely to be a female fury, based on the finale.

I'd love to see Granny Goodness as an active villain role in the season. It would be really interesting to see an elderly character be an evil foil for the year. And would be an active dynamic that Smallville's never had before.

An innocent looking grandmother type that turns off being evil would be really unsettling, in a good way I think.

[SpiderByte]

An innocent looking grandmother type that turns off being evil would be really unsettling, in a good way I think.


*Watches trailer for 'Legion'.*

Indeed.

[Zorex]

"I said your ****ing baby's gonna burn."

Ahh, good times.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think Tess is likely to be a female fury, based on the finale.

I'd love to see Granny Goodness as an active villain role in the season. It would be really interesting to see an elderly character be an evil foil for the year. And would be an active dynamic that Smallville's never had before.

An innocent looking grandmother type that turns off being evil would be really unsettling, in a good way I think.

Granny Goodness never looked innocent.


She's a hideous scary-looking witch as Kirby intended.

http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox27/pics/granny-goodness.jpg http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/dcanimated/images/thumb/d/d9/Grannygoodness.jpg/275px-Grannygoodness.jpg

[Serene]

I am now, more than ever, so excited for the SV ComicCon panel this year. The preview for next year is going to be off the hook.

Are you going? :awesome:

Just read a few more reviews of 'Salvation' online and they're ALL positive, most praising it. Think the cast and crew really knocked this one out of the park.


I don't believe I've ever seen such a consensus of positive opinions about a SV episode, or at least, it's been a long damn time.

S9 had it's great moments, but overall, not my favorite season. However, this finale really reinvigorated my love for the show and now I can't wait for the next season to start. Keeping the show centered around CLARK BEING THE HERO is a seemingly simple idea, but it makes such a huge impact.

[SpiderByte]

I still cannot take her that seriously.

[ZIPBAGS]

Especially, since Granny was voiced by Ed Asner on the Superman Animated show. :D

[lespaul59]

Yup. He had me at:


source: http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/

I think every director for every episode should approach it from the same angle.

I hadn't seen that before, great read.

[Zorex]

Are you going? :awesome:

Yes! Last time I went was two years ago, and that was my first SV CC panel attendance. Very memorable. This year should be quite special itself, being that it's likely to be the last season... regardless of that, the finale has really given me a huge renewed buzz for the show, so I can't wait to hear what they say and see what they show at the panel.
Keeping the show centered around CLARK BEING THE HERO is a seemingly simple idea, but it makes such a huge impact.
You're absolutely correct. It's practically shocking to see Clark take the lead and be central in the episode, but feels oh-so-right.

[lespaul59]

For those wondering about the Female Furies here is the Wikipedia link for the Female Furies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Furies

If Tess becomes one of the Furies, without knowing how many established characters we may or may not get I would say she's gonna become Lashina. I also wonder if this means we'll get an episode qith Big Barda and Mister Miracle.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I doubt she'll become one of those characters.

But I'm sure she'll be working for Granny and the others (likely INTERGANG).

I would think they'd still need her in charge of Luthorcorp, since Rosenbaum isn't back. They have to use the Luthor Mansion set of course, as usual.

[M.O.Steel]

they could still do luthor with a mask or a burnt face with a trans-voice if they can't get rosenbaum

[spideyboy_1111]

Tess hasn't done anything with luthorcorp for a while... not since they merged with Ollie's company.

The mansion i could easily see ... and "conveniently" taken over by Darkseid or Checkmate.

I could see Tess become something like Lashina... with the bandaged face the character has.

[Binker]

I could see Tess become something like Lashina... with the bandaged face the character has.

That would be neat. Top it off with the Tess/Lasha saying to Green Arrow the same thing Lasha said to Superman in STAS: "I'm not finished with you, boy toy".

LOL

[LostSon88]

Okay somethings been bothering me...

So the African American Kandorian...isn't that the same actor that played the guy who Lex hired to blackmail Jonathan Kent during the Senate Race? Sure does seem like him.

[LostSon88]

i still think people are extremely overanalyzing a .0001 second shot of a zoomed in CG reflection of superman....

Yeah, that's kinda what people do around these boards...

It used to annoy me too but now, meh.

:dry:

[lespaul59]

I just make the Tess/Lashina because Lashina was a member of the Suicide Squad and was killed then later resurrected. While Tess wasn't a memeber Suicide Squad she did work for Checkmate who had a Suicide Squad. Plus Tess has at least died and it seems like she'll be resurrected also. Then again we might get a Lashina next year and Tess be a new Fury altogether.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Tess hasn't done anything with luthorcorp for a while... not since they merged with Ollie's company.

The mansion i could easily see ... and "conveniently" taken over by Darkseid or Checkmate.

I could see Tess become something like Lashina... with the bandaged face the character has.

I'll bet you anything Tess' wounds will be magically healed by the new villains.

There's no way the CW would have her being all burned and scarred all season. She'll be conveniently back to normal when shes resurrected.

[Man of Tomorrow]

The bigger question is... now that the Kandorian arc is over..

WHO was the voice in the Orb who coerced Tess into releasing the Kandorians to begin with?

That came out of nowhere. That entity was pretty much the cause of everything that happened.

It would be good if they tied that to Darkseid somehow, but it would be tricky.

[Binker]

I never understood the Orb, nor any other Kryptonian tech factor on Smallville, just like the powers. Instead of being tied to, based on, hard science; all of these things seem to be have a magic influence. I don't get the feeling that Clark is actually running, for example, I feel that it's almost like he's running because of his mind commanding his body to go faster than light (or something like that). Versus....'40s cartoons, STAS, STM, even the Reeves show, where you felt it and it got the feeling that some logic was placed on it, since it's still a human being doing this with his/her body.

[KBX]

What Tess can do is actually be Granny Goodness's "dog". She can be the leader of intergang, and the person GG tries to groom into one of her furies....

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

Of course there's still things that need to be explained that you know they're never going to get to. Not only the voice of the orb, but the fortress was "dead" at the end of Season 8 and automatically "alive" at the begining of season 9. When are they going to let us know what took place there?............

don't think they will.

[Mike22]

i still think people are extremely overanalyzing a .0001 second shot of a zoomed in CG reflection of superman....
I take it you probably meant me due to my rather lengthy post about the suit design and pictures.
The explanation is very simple. I've been drawing superman since I was 8 years old and continue to do so to this very day, I got tons of drawings of the suit and different versions of it. From day one of Smallville I've been extremely curious to see their take on it, and now that I finally got to see at least a hint of it, I could barely contain myself because it was so exiting to me. I doubt the smallville folks would put just anything up there knowing fully well that someone would take the picture apart inch by inch. It was nice seeing that their take on it is a much better version than the last movie offered us. So forgive me if you were annoyed, but I've been waiting for 9 years to see a superman suit on smallville and when I did, I felt the need to analyze and...nitpick a little. Not to mention that I really most of all just wanted to make sure that it wasn't anything like that complete and utter piece of crap suit we got in SR, which to this day annoys me just thinking it about it.

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

I agree with Mike22

so what if people are getting excited, they damn well have every right to after waiting 9 freaking years to see Smallville's version of the Superman suit and have them actually show it, and yes, THEY DID SHOW IT! I'm pretty sure they had every intention on one of the fans getting a zoomed in snap shot of the scene and you can see it clearly, the underwear, the belt, cape, blue tights, whole 9 yards.

[COMPO]

What with Granny Goodness here now? You reckon there'll be an episode called "Orphanage"

[Syncos]

Granny Goodness never looked innocent.


She's a hideous scary-looking witch as Kirby intended.

http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox27/pics/granny-goodness.jpg http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/dcanimated/images/thumb/d/d9/Grannygoodness.jpg/275px-Grannygoodness.jpg

Yes, but this is Smallville. And there's bound to be a bit of a interpretation thing going on. If Granny becomes an active part of the season, she'll be doing what she has to, to get close to people. Even if it's the kinda thing like the finale, where she's innocently there knitting or something. Then BLAM. She's a horrible twisted image of a grandma character.

[COMPO]

didn't Granny in the JLU put on a sweet voice or something to seem sweeter than she was.

[SpideyVille]

Okay somethings been bothering me...

So the African American Kandorian...isn't that the same actor that played the guy who Lex hired to blackmail Jonathan Kent during the Senate Race? Sure does seem like him.
According to IMDB, he played "Griff" in Lexmas and Fanatic, so you are correct! Good eye, I completely forgot about that.

[SrsBsns]

I have a feeling that Darksied is going to have a big helping hand in Lex's return/"resurrection."

[spideyboy_1111]

I take it you probably meant me due to my rather lengthy post about the suit design and pictures.
The explanation is very simple. I've been drawing superman since I was 8 years old and continue to do so to this very day, I got tons of drawings of the suit and different versions of it. From day one of Smallville I've been extremely curious to see their take on it, and now that I finally got to see at least a hint of it, I could barely contain myself because it was so exiting to me. I doubt the smallville folks would put just anything up there knowing fully well that someone would take the picture apart inch by inch. It was nice seeing that their take on it is a much better version than the last movie offered us. So forgive me if you were annoyed, but I've been waiting for 9 years to see a superman suit on smallville and when I did, I felt the need to analyze and...nitpick a little. Not to mention that I really most of all just wanted to make sure that it wasn't anything like that complete and utter piece of crap suit we got in SR, which to this day annoys me just thinking it about it.

be excited all you want, that's fine. but a .0001 second reflection of an image means nothing. from a production standpoint all they wanted was something quick, and something resembling the iconic character. that's it. Don't waste time stressing about the costume. it will drive you nuts.

[Mike22]

be excited all you want, that's fine. but a .0001 second reflection of an image means nothing. from a production standpoint all they wanted was something quick, and something resembling the iconic character. that's it. Don't waste time stressing about the costume. it will drive you nuts.
Nah, it kinda wore over after a while. But still looking forward for the final product though.

[COMPO]

I wonder what will hinder Clark from wearing the suit next season? I mean I wasn't sure what it was this year but what with the Kandorians wearing all black I suppose it was more him using the colours of the Kryptonian council i.e. Jor-El in the Superman Movie, to sort of connect with them.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I have a feeling that Darksied is going to have a big helping hand in Lex's return/"resurrection."


That's a very good call...considering he's resurrecting Tess

[Zorex]

I wonder what will hinder Clark from wearing the suit next season? I mean I wasn't sure what it was this year but what with the Kandorians wearing all black I suppose it was more him using the colours of the Kryptonian council i.e. Jor-El in the Superman Movie, to sort of connect with them.
See, in the past I've not really looked forward to seeing what new reasons they come with for delaying the inevitable and keeping things status quo, but, being that A) It's likely the last season, and B) the show runners have shown us, with this past season, that they are willing to shake things up and move them forward now (Clark in a costume, gaggle of Kryptonians, Lois and Clark in a relationship, iconic teases of the inevitable future), I am really optimistically curious as to what place Clark will be in at the start of next year. Will the episode open right where Salvation left off, with Clark in free-fall? Will it open after he's already fallen, or some greater time later? What, despite the eagerness he showed in Salvation to fulfill his destiny on Earth, will delay Clark for another season?

[Mike22]

See, in the past I've not really looked forward to seeing what new reasons they come with for delaying the inevitable and keeping things status quo, but, being that A) It's likely the last season, and B) the show runners have shown us, with this past season, that they are willing to shake things up and move them forward now (Clark in a costume, gaggle of Kryptonians, Lois and Clark in a relationship, iconic teases of the inevitable future), I am really optimistically curious as to what place Clark will be in at the start of next year. Will the episode open right where Salvation left off, with Clark in free-fall? Will it open after he's already fallen, or some greater time later? What, despite the eagerness he showed in Salvation to fulfill his destiny on Earth, will delay Clark for another season?
This being the last season, we know that it's completely out of the question to have him in the classic suit from seasons start, that is being saved for the end. And until he does, he really hasn't fulfilled his destiny. So, they'll come up with whatever reason they can to make sure he doesn't and that reason will stall him for the rest of the season. Personally I don't think that there is any doubt that they will indeed stall, with the suit anyway, which is the final payoff. Sad as it will be to see Smallville go, I am extremely curious to see how they proceed with their last season.
What ever they decide for, I hope it's well executed.

[elgaz]

As I said earlier, I've a feeling they will have him wearing the blue portion of the suit (with the S on the chest) for most of the season. Then at the end maybe add the red belt & cape to complete the iconic Superman look.

[Mike22]

Oh no doubt, but I wonder what the blue part of the suit will be, in terms of material. A blue shirt? Leather? Can't be leather. Spandex? Hardly. Tight Long sleeved shirt with a red S shield on it? Perhaps.

[COMPO]

Would be good if Clark was out of action for a few months due to being in hospital and during that time people are missing the blur and when coming back he decides to ditch the dark colours and go a bit bright to show some hope.

[elgaz]

I think they somehow need to use the actions of the Kandorians (destroying monuments around the globe) to show there is fear amongst the human population. News reports, protests in streets, etc. And for that reason, Clark decides to go for the brighter colours to symbolise hope.

And let's not forget also that most of the Kandorians were dressed very similarly to Clark's blur outfit. People will now associate him with the Kandorians based on how they look .......................... he needs a new brighter look to distance himself from that and not be perceived as the same threat.

[Syncos]

This being the last season, we know that it's completely out of the question to have him in the classic suit from seasons start, that is being saved for the end. And until he does, he really hasn't fulfilled his destiny. So, they'll come up with whatever reason they can to make sure he doesn't and that reason will stall him for the rest of the season. Personally I don't think that there is any doubt that they will indeed stall, with the suit anyway, which is the final payoff. Sad as it will be to see Smallville go, I am extremely curious to see how they proceed with their last season.
What ever they decide for, I hope it's well executed.

Where has it been stated that this is the last season?
I mean, we're all optimistic that it is, however this is the CW we're talking about. If ratings are good, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll try and keep it going another year.

[elgaz]

I really hope they don't try and stretch it out over another 2 season. Clark is at a place now where he's pretty much Superman in mind and body - he just needs to fly, and get the suit. I don't think there's enough fuel left in Smallville to have another 2 seasons of soul-searching and angst as he tries to work out what his destiny is.

They should follow the direction of the LOST writers and choose to end the show on their own terms ................. wrapping it up and ending it properly without overstaying it's welcome.

[Mike22]

Where has it been stated that this is the last season?
I mean, we're all optimistic that it is, however this is the CW we're talking about. If ratings are good, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll try and keep it going another year.

Well, there's that, isn't it. I thought in season 8 the producers said that they had two seasons more of stories to tell? And HONESTLY, I don't see Welling signing up for anything beyond season 10. And I'm quite sure that's a safe bet, unless they decide to give him a *****load of money to assure him re-signing that contract. But hey, would looooove to see season 11 happening. Would be very interesting to see what they'd do. Lex and his Powersuit is one thing that comes to mind. If they can get Rosenbaum to return that is.

[COMPO]

I think they somehow need to use the actions of the Kandorians (destroying monuments around the globe) to show there is fear amongst the human population. News reports, protests in streets, etc. And for that reason, Clark decides to go for the brighter colours to symbolise hope.

And let's not forget also that most of the Kandorians were dressed very similarly to Clark's blur outfit. People will now associate him with the Kandorians based on how they look .......................... he needs a new brighter look to distance himself from that and not be perceived as the same threat.

That's what I was thinking, I never understood why he stayed with the costume after coming back as Clark Kent anyways. It didn't really inspire hope and he wasn't in a bad mood anymore.

[RakuMon]

I think they somehow need to use the actions of the Kandorians (destroying monuments around the globe) to show there is fear amongst the human population. News reports, protests in streets, etc. And for that reason, Clark decides to go for the brighter colours to symbolise hope.

And let's not forget also that most of the Kandorians were dressed very similarly to Clark's blur outfit. People will now associate him with the Kandorians based on how they look .......................... he needs a new brighter look to distance himself from that and not be perceived as the same threat.

Would be nice if there was references to "Dark Thursday (http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Thursday)". You know, the last time Zod wreaked havoc on the planet on a worldwide scale. I'd like to see an ep in Season 10 that dealt with the Z symbols and how they're reminiscent to the symbol that was burned into a corn field.

Also, I haven't seen anyone nitpick this (since the opening teaser was so geektastic, I feel bad nitpicking it) but why did Lois' assistant say Clark was at the deli when he was still obviously at his desk?

[Zorex]

This being the last season, we know that it's completely out of the question to have him in the classic suit from seasons start, that is being saved for the end. And until he does, he really hasn't fulfilled his destiny. So, they'll come up with whatever reason they can to make sure he doesn't and that reason will stall him for the rest of the season. Personally I don't think that there is any doubt that they will indeed stall, with the suit anyway, which is the final payoff. Sad as it will be to see Smallville go, I am extremely curious to see how they proceed with their last season.
What ever they decide for, I hope it's well executed.
That's exactly what I was already saying. :p

My newfound excitement is, I believe, due to the fact that it's likely the last season. Whatever happens this season could be among the most important moments in the entire series.

[COMPO]

well with next season it would be cool if it was a sort of Superman Year One so to speak despite it sort of being Superman year 3. Have him in the costume and have him starting to establish himself be cool if Lois helped him out with disguises and excuses.

[Mike22]

That's exactly what I was already saying. :p I know. I had a better answer in my mind, but somewhere along the way it got lost, and just ended but being a reiteration:woot: That's what happens when posting at several places simultaneously, concentration is lost, lol.
My newfound excitement is, I believe, due to the fact that it's likely the last season. Whatever happens this season could be among the most important moments in the entire series.

Same here. Had it just been another season finale I wouldn't even have bothered posting anything about it, knowing we'd get more of the same next season, but this is different. Haven't been this exited about this show in Years.

[COMPO]

I was just thinking if Darksied's next years villain wouldn't it be cool if he chnaged the world into Apokolips like he in the Justice League game.

[Mikelus]

The bigger question is... now that the Kandorian arc is over..

WHO was the voice in the Orb who coerced Tess into releasing the Kandorians to begin with?

That came out of nowhere. That entity was pretty much the cause of everything that happened.

It would be good if they tied that to Darkseid somehow, but it would be tricky.

Well, I asked them on twitter (still waiting for an answer), some of the writers' accounts (Al Septien & Turi Meyer wrote "Salvation"):

http://twitter.com/alseptien

http://twitter.com/Turimeyer

http://twitter.com/bryanQmiller

[Webhead2006]

Assuming the episode wasn't entirely re-written i'd assume maybe DC would have a problem with how that character was portrayed if it were Captain Marvel. He basically went crazy with power.

If they could get captain marvel, I'd like to see them take elements from Superman/Shazam: First Thunder. That book was great.




I think Tess is likely to be a female fury, based on the finale.

I'd love to see Granny Goodness as an active villain role in the season. It would be really interesting to see an elderly character be an evil foil for the year. And would be an active dynamic that Smallville's never had before.

An innocent looking grandmother type that turns off being evil would be really unsettling, in a good way I think.

Totally they can easily have tess become a female fury and it could make for a great plotline for cassidy to do next yr if she still apart of the show. Also they could use her in case for example they couldnt use any of the actual comics female furies due to any rights issues.

As i said in the season ten thread i definately see granny being the main focused darkseid minion. Her actress i could definately see end up scoring a 7-13 episode deal. Then also i would put dasaad around to be a secondary main minion we see with around the same episode count as granny. Then the other minions like kalibak/steppenwolf would be best suited probably for 2-3 episode deals.

I just hope it all turns out good. Hopefully they will go for a full on darkseid. And i think they would. ITs all about how they want his look to be and how much of a phsyical threat they want him to be. Then on top of the budget for the season.

[Hush]

I thought the voice in the orb was ZOd and that was just the Smallville version of the bottle city of kandor.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I thought the voice in the orb was ZOd and that was just the Smallville version of the bottle city of kandor.

Nope. Tess stated in the premiere it wasn't Zod's voice.

[Zorex]

Yeah, I think I remember Zod just gave her a coy look, and then we never got an answer as to who it was.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

One of the best season finales ever. Loved the opening sequence even though the Superman suit (with the exception of the bigger symbol) in the Planet sequence seemed to be too "maroon" for my taste. The one we see in Clark's eyes seemed alot better in color.
Loved how Clark sacrificed himself for humanity. All I can say is Tom IS Superman. Period.
I loved that they had Granny Goodness in the end. It was awesome, they probably took the inspiration from Jeph Loeb's Superman/Batman Girl from Krypton arc.
She had a pet named Mercy in the comics so Tess may be in real trouble now.
Oliver screaming it's not the Kandorians makes me think it's the Parademons or Female Furys. We'll have to see.
After erasing the bad taste from the past 2 season finales, I hope the season premiere will erase the taste of the past 2 season premieres which were less than stellar as well.
Smallville is gonna end with a bang I'm sure ! Just hope that Warner/DC Entertainment put it through their heads that Tom Welling is this generation's Superman and he'll have to be in the new movie.
Hopefully the 2013 sequence is some kind of indication that they also think this way.

[SpiderByte]

I didn't see it, so I'll see if I can guess once the DVD set comes out.

When should it be coming out? Late May-June?

[LostSon88]

They don't come out that fast...try the end of August. :cwink:

[SpiderByte]

Dammit.

Ah well.

[ariellem]

Zod...I don't get all season hes wearing black and all of sudden, now wear a red shirt.
Don't you watch Star Trek? Foreshadowing! ;->

Is it me or was that talk between Clark and Ollie a "this what should have happened in SR?
The need to say goodbye to Lois and all that.
That's what immediately came to mind for me.


(re: knitting figure) I thought it was Martha or Waller, lol.
I thought it was Martha. Granny Goodness isn't a familiar figure for me.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9707/99090282.gif http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/235/43333806.gif

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9195/31012391.gif http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2484/93873109.gif

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5678/92238836.gif http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2052/89279531.gif

Wow, these were great, especially the first one. Loved the post-punch freeze. Great pose.

More rain scenes, please, without making SV Supes too depressingly Batman-like. Some guys look like drowned rats when they get drenched; not this one.

Did anyone else notice that when Clark was falling his hair went right into the classic Superman curl? ...He also had the S curls when he rescued Lois...
Not seeing that in the fall; don't have clips of the rescue. Stills, anyone?

[TheAQU4M4N]

They don't come out that fast...try the end of August. :cwink:
yeah its always the last two weeks of august or the first two weeks of september? do you think Zod will be on the cover art this time or will it be Lois and Clark and Zod?

[LostSon88]

I could see that, Lois and Clark in the foreground, Zod in the back...

[Binker]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5702/svs2.jpg

It could change, and it might've been because of how it was shown, but the S-Shield starting next season, as seen from that shot in the eye, is the Curt Swan version as seen from this background from the Filmation Superman series:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/cartoons/naos-endcredit.jpg

(excuse the credit listing)

[Mike_D202]

And look closely, the shield is also beveled/raised :)

[Dave_W]

And look closely, the shield is also beveled/raised :)

...and back to front seeing as it's meant to be a reflection! :cwink:

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

so Martha gave clark a box with Bizzaro's suit in it? :woot:

[elgaz]

Awesome gifs. That truly was one of the best Smallville fights seen yet.

Does anyone have a gif of the slow motion super-punch prior to the fight, when Clark saves Lois from Zod?

[Syncos]

I really hope they don't try and stretch it out over another 2 season. Clark is at a place now where he's pretty much Superman in mind and body - he just needs to fly, and get the suit. I don't think there's enough fuel left in Smallville to have another 2 seasons of soul-searching and angst as he tries to work out what his destiny is.

They should follow the direction of the LOST writers and choose to end the show on their own terms ................. wrapping it up and ending it properly without overstaying it's welcome.

The main thing LOST did that I would like Smallville to do if it is their final season, is to make it like a 22 hour movie. There should be a plot line that's being followed up every episode. Every little side story should tie into the main plot in the long run.

[Syncos]

One of the best season finales ever. Loved the opening sequence even though the Superman suit (with the exception of the bigger symbol) in the Planet sequence seemed to be too "maroon" for my taste. The one we see in Clark's eyes seemed alot better in color.
Pausing on the mass the blurs by before being under the plane is quite vividly red. I'm pretty sure it's just because of being under the plane in shadow that the red is darker.

[Brainiac 8]

No thank you. Smallville should take nothing from Lost.

I still prefer episodic television to the ongoing storytelling style of Lost/24/Heroes. I like having an ongoing story, but having each episode mostly stay self contained.

I only take the time to watch 2 television shows: Smallville and Eureka. Both of them follow the style I really enjoy, I would hate for them to change.

[elgaz]

I didn't say follow the Lost story format.

I said they should follow the direction of the writers there, e.g. they decided that instead of letting Lost run on forever and degrade in quality/ratings, they set an endpoint and are working towards that. So they can wrap the story up in their own terms.

[Brainiac 8]

I wasn't talking about what you said, but more what Syncos was saying.

I have never been a fan of the ongoing, never ending story format of some of the shows I mentioned. I enjoy episodic the format way too much.

[Syncos]

I wasn't talking about what you said, but more what Syncos was saying.

I have never been a fan of the ongoing, never ending story format of some of the shows I mentioned. I enjoy episodic the format way too much.

That's a good point. The format in which Smallville uses works. For sure. They most certainly don't need to be following one plot and pick up minutes after each episode.

However, every episode's plot should somehow be related to a strong overlying story, which is something Smallville is always either mediocre with or struggling with. It wasn't terrible with the Kandorians this year, but you still heard nothing about that plot for episodes at a time. And sometimes it was just a single scene with Zod doing something to remind you here's around.

If they're going to do Intergang and Darkseid. Don't hold back. Craft an entire season. Take cues from Supernatural, to be honest, and have Characters changing and having to hit certain points throughout the season. Decide what you want your story to be and use each episode's story significantly.

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, now that wouldn't be so bad. If they could tie the different plot threads together a little better. The Kandorian story, and Doomsday story I thought they handled well.

The Witch plot, not so much though. :P

But seriously, I do agree that they should take the show out with a bang next year.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Speaking of the end of "Salvation" ..

Why didn't Clark just toss the Blue K dagger over the edge of the building.. instead of falling intentionally with the dagger still attached to him?

Zod had backed off and if Clark had done that, they both would have ascended into the sky... instead of Clark diving towards his death.

His attempted suicide wasn't necessary.

And even if he pulled the dagger out while he was falling, he would have still ascended... but instead he does the Christ pose :confused:

[Superfreak]

I didn't say follow the Lost story format.

I said they should follow the direction of the writers there, e.g. they decided that instead of letting Lost run on forever and degrade in quality/ratings, they set an endpoint and are working towards that. So they can wrap the story up in their own terms.

smallville isn't about that dude, it's about exploiting, and exposing the audience to as many commercials as possible...

maybe they'll take a more serious approach next year.

this season has been great, better than season 8, which was it self light years ahead of the 7 seasons that came before it. So I have hope that you are correct. That maybe finally, after 9 years, the smallville writing crew would pull out all the stops, and deliver (without having to fill in 25% of available episodes with filler.)

hopefully next season, we'll also get a climax to the season, where clark actually uses his powers.

Again, my only negative comment on the season finale: it is poor form to end a season, to bring the season to a climax, with a powered down Superman... it's cheap.

It was a good fight scene, but what in the hell was the point of giving Zod powers in the first place, and not have a real face off? Honestly, what's the point? All they did was waste 4-5 episodes worth of F/X budget on him. And why? so that Clark and Zod could have a powered down fist fight? It just doesn't add up. (hopefully, this is one of the things the production crew takes more seriously next year, budget and delivery). Ironically, it's the same BS climax (in essence) that they used in SII (without the saran wrap suffocating \S/ frisbee)

[Brainiac 8]

With S10 being the last, I'm hoping CW gives them the budget to make it the season to end all seasons.

Series Finale: Superman! :D

[Zorex]

this season has been great, better than season 8, which was it self light years ahead of the 7 seasons that came before it.

Truth.

(I, too, am hoping that by accepting the season as the final one, they let go of feeling like they have to keep stretching material and just go, for lack of a better saying, balls to the wall.)

[Brainiac 8]

Truth be told, I'm not against shorter seasons. So if they decided to end the show with a 13 episode run, and tighten the focus of the last season, and truly make it an epic "Final road to Superman" I wouldn't be upset about it.

But then again, I don't mind a fun/funny filler episode here and there.

[Mikelus]

Speaking of the end of "Salvation" ..

Why didn't Clark just toss the Blue K dagger over the edge of the building.. instead of falling intentionally with the dagger still attached to him?

Zod had backed off and if Clark had done that, they both would have ascended into the sky... instead of Clark diving towards his death.

His attempted suicide wasn't necessary.

And even if he pulled the dagger out while he was falling, he would have still ascended... but instead he does the Christ pose :confused:

And why Clark was taking a nap, Superman doesn't need it? And why Clark didn't put on the new suit? And why Zod used a red shirt instead of the black one? And why.....

Enough!! :hehe:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Actually, my biggest 'why' is why Clark didn't ascend with the other Kandorians when the Book of Rao was activated.

Clark still had powers, he supersped towards Zod.. so it obviously wasn't Zod's Blue K keeping him down.

[Brainiac 8]

Maybe it's because the script didn't call for Clark to ascend. :p

Seriously though, does it matter? Not really, as the basic thought shown was that Blue K = not ascending. Clark supersped to the Blue K before the effects of the Book of Rao affected him...that's all we need to know.

[Mikelus]

Al Septien said on twitter that the dagger kept Clark from leaving and it makes sense, that's why Zod used it. It could be kind of confusing for some, but it happens all the time on films and series, is not about perfect logic, is about drama. Is like when heroes always arrive on time to save the day (most of the time), that's not the way life works, but is just entertainment.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Al Septien said on twitter that the dagger kept Clark from leaving and it makes sense, that's why Zod used it. It could be kind of confusing for some, but it happens all the time on films and series, is not about perfect logic, is about drama. Is like when heroes always arrive on time to save the day (most of the time), that's not the way life works, but is just entertainment.

Yeah, but my argument was, Clark wasn't affected by the dagger till he supersped towards Zod (after ALL the other Kandorians had already conveniently ascended)... considering Clark supersped.


Maybe it's because the script didn't call for Clark to ascend. :p

Seriously though, does it matter? Not really, as the basic thought shown was that Blue K = not ascending. Clark supersped to the Blue K before the effects of the Book of Rao affected him...that's all we need to know.

But then why did the Book affect ALL the other Kandorians and not Clark BEFORE he supersped towards Zod and the Blue K?

I guess I'll just go with it. Best not to analyze.

[Prison Mike]

I'm thinking that the Book of Rao grabbed the Kandorians who were closest to the disk. They all went in the order based on where they were standing. Clark and Zod were at the back of the line so to speak. Clark wanted to make sure everyone ascended before he could.

[Brainiac 8]

Or because the plot needed it to work that way in order to move the story to it's finish. Simple as that, like you said, no need to analyze.

[Webhead2006]

Yea dvd set will probably be out in mid/late aug if its an early release like last season was. Also spiderbyte you could always dl the episodes legally/torrents what ever you do if you want to see episodes now. As for the whole talk about the suit colors as many of us has stated when we first see the fly by the colors are bright and bold, and sure it does look a bit darker on the underside shot, but he was in the shadows of the underside of the plane so that probably caused the colors to be darker like.

[SpideyVille]

Maybe it's because the script didn't call for Clark to ascend. :p
That's the best answer I've heard all day. :up:

[Webhead2006]

as to the ascending bit. if you did notice each person was taken one at a time. so it probably was a sort of order the teleporter took them on.

[Mike_D202]

It's a good way to have Zod convince the others that Clark abandoned them and sent them to the planet by themselves.

[Webhead2006]

doubt he would get the kandorians to be on his side again after they learned he killed foaroa and all that. He probably got beat up badly when he appeared.

[ariellem]

Looked to me like the Kandorians stepped forward a little to go up in the beam.

[LostSon88]

Best bet...among the Kandorians, it wouldn't be a stretch to presume a few of them would sympathize with Zod and over time he is able to build up his own army, take control of the planet and HYPOTHETICALLY, the Kandorians return (led by Faora's sister) to Earth asking Superman for help against General Zod and his army.

[M.O.Steel]

i'm glad its ending. at least we will get a proper full blown sendoff instead of mid-story.

while i wouldn't go as far as say going out on top, it is always good to see the end than to end abruptly

[hurley711]

Here's some random thoughts on which way they might go. I'm wondering if they are going to throw Lois off of Clarks trail by having her see him stabbed and injured with the blue K knife. If she sees him injured and bleeding that could be his cover for not being the blr, again that's just a thought if they wanted to avoid her knowing for season 10.
As far as th eopening scene where Supes saves the plane and the Planet, I actually believe that this is the worlds first exposure to Superman. 2013 woul dbe set 2 yrs after next season, and that would allow him time to complete his training at the fortress and to tell Lois who obviously knows at that point. The reason I believe it is the first time is because of the way Lois looks when she sees Clarks chair spinning and then yells for Jimmy so he doesn't miss the photo, it just made me believe that was the 1st time and she wanted the photo for her story. Also the way the guy out front says "look up in the sky" he seemed stunned, and yes I understand that's how people get with Supes, but I still believe that he was stunned because it was the 1st tim eanyone had seen him. Only Lois seemed relaxed when she saw Clarks chair spinning, kinda like she knew they were all gonna be OK

[Colossal Spoons]

Finally saw this episode:

- both of Clark's superpunches to Zod were hilarious and badass
- the way the Kandorians found out about Zod's treachery was kinda dumb, you can't whisper around Kryptonians :whatever:
- I'm really glad Tess died and can't wait to see who that old lady was
- was kinda hoping for a JLA/JSA vs Kandorians fight, but I was pleased just to see Cyborg again :D
- whatever those things were that pounced on Ollie, can't wait to find out what those were

[Eros]

Finally saw this episode:

- both of Clark's superpunches to Zod were hilarious and badass
- the way the Kandorians found out about Zod's treachery was kinda dumb, you can't whisper around Kryptonians :whatever:
- I'm really glad Tess died and can't wait to see who that old lady was
- was kinda hoping for a JLA/JSA vs Kandorians fight, but I was pleased just to see Cyborg again :D
- whatever those things were that pounced on Ollie, can't wait to find out what those were

Tess may not be dead, as we all speculate that the "Old Lady" was Granny Goodness, one of Darkseids elite, and trainer of the Female Furies. she might make Tess into one of her Furies. Also Olliver we speculate may have been taken by Darkseids Parademon troops. Darkseid may be next seasons big Bad villian.

[Colossal Spoons]

^ Thank you sir

My favorite shot of the Episode.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3056/smalvilleseason901.gif (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/smalvilleseason901.gif/)

That was awesome. So was the superspeed punch after Zod tossed Lois :D

[zerohour films]

I know those shots looked so good, it was more like watching a film than a television series.

This show has always had excellent cinematography..sure there have been some downgrades in recent years when they had to do more backlot shots than location, but they are still able to pull off some great stuff!

[greenlantern248]

Hey does anyone know, who the last person was when Clark was talking to the rest of the League?
From left to right it looked like
???? Jonn Jonzz, Black Canary, Big Screen, Hawkman, Star Girl and Cyborg

[LostSon88]

Flash

[greenlantern248]

Okay thanks LostSon88

[Webhead2006]

well impluse to be technical since they cant call him flash.

[triplet]

This image was on the screen in the 'Previously on Smallville' segment, but only for a second or so...

What is it? Does this have something to do with Darkseid?

I couldn't find anyone who had talked about this.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4900/59912078.jpg

[Webhead2006]

trip that screen been sprinkled throughout the season on the watchtower computers. It looks like an EYE but with a stylized JLA lettering.

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

yea, it's just Smallville's Justice League logo, nothing more

it doesn't prelude or lead to anything, it's not forshadowing anything, just a logo

[triplet]

Oh, okay, I guess I had seen that before on the monitors.

I thought I had seen it before but couldn't remember...

[Webhead2006]

no problem trip.

[triplet]

My review's up:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/salvationreview.htm

[Webhead2006]

Just got finished reading the review trip. Another solid one there. And now a season is wrapped. REally hope you do stay and do season ten.

[Johnny]

^^ What webhead said.

[triplet]

Just got finished reading the review trip. Another solid one there. And now a season is wrapped. REally hope you do stay and do season ten.

thanks, but I haven't decided yet about what to do about next season.

I'm tired now and looking forward to my vacation, I'll decide after that.

^^ What webhead said.


Thanks.

[Webhead2006]

YEa have a good rest from writing and other stuff, and i hope you enjoy your trip you said u were going to have soon. i definately hope you would do reviews for craig for the last yr. But you have plently of time to decide on that with craig right? so hopefully we will see reviews from you.

[triplet]

YEa have a good rest from writing and other stuff, and i hope you enjoy your trip you said u were going to have soon. i definately hope you would do reviews for craig for the last yr. But you have plently of time to decide on that with craig right? so hopefully we will see reviews from you.

I'll certainly talk to Craig about it before I make any 'official' decision, but if I don't do it the decision will be all mine.

As much as I appreciate the support I get from him and everyone, I'll have to weigh the cons and pros and decide for myself whether it's worth it to write the reviews for another year.

[Webhead2006]

totally understandable trip, please keep up informed on whats what in the coming months.

[Syncos]

I'll certainly talk to Craig about it before I make any 'official' decision, but if I don't do it the decision will be all mine.

As much as I appreciate the support I get from him and everyone, I'll have to weigh the cons and pros and decide for myself whether it's worth it to write the reviews for another year.

At the very least Trip, even if you decide not to review on an episode to episode basis, I think it'd be great if you reviewed major episodes. Like the Premier, the 200th, The Finale, then any other episodes that stand above the pack for some reason, (like Absolute Justice or Justice respectively).

Doing that, you would still finish out the series without being pressured to get a review out every week...

[triplet]

At the very least Trip, even if you decide not to review on an episode to episode basis, I think it'd be great if you reviewed major episodes. Like the Premier, the 200th, The Finale, then any other episodes that stand above the pack for some reason, (like Absolute Justice or Justice respectively).

Doing that, you would still finish out the series without being pressured to get a review out every week...

I did consider that too, I'll see what I decide to do...

It just takes up so much free time and I've got a lot less available than I used to. Couldn't even watch all the shows I wanted to last season because of I just didn't have time, nevermind about the other writing that I wanted to do...

[Webhead2006]

yea what ever would be great to see trip.

[The Caped Knight]

Well here's the proof that puts the final nail in the coffin on this issue .
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9472/922smallville0028.jpg

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) The ring Lois wore in Salvation's future means she's married to Clark in 2013?

@SVClois (http://twitter.com/SVClois) That's what we were alluding to,, yes. :super:
http://twitter.com/alseptien

[Johnny]

Nice. Though, that ring looks like a diamond ring to me, so I always thought it was supposed to be an engagement ring.

[triplet]

At the very least Trip, even if you decide not to review on an episode to episode basis, I think it'd be great if you reviewed major episodes. Like the Premier, the 200th, The Finale, then any other episodes that stand above the pack for some reason, (like Absolute Justice or Justice respectively).

Doing that, you would still finish out the series without being pressured to get a review out every week...

yea what ever would be great to see trip.

Well, I am going to review again this year, but I'm going to shorten them... not talk about every single actor just because they were in it.

I felt like I had to or some group would get all offended and think I hated someone.

Got that a few times when I didn't talk about Kristin or Allison or Erica...

Not going to worry about that this season. I'll talk about the actors when I want to talk about them. It tends to get repetitive anyway, so best to cut it out.

Sometimes working on that last bit would take a long time because I'd have to watch the episode again and again and decide what to say. Maybe now I'll just keep it to 'yeah, right: Tom's gorgeous and brilliant and Erica is too..."

;)


Well here's the proof that puts the final nail in the coffin on this issue .
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9472/922smallville0028.jpg

@alseptien (http://twitter.com/alseptien) The ring Lois wore in Salvation's future means she's married to Clark in 2013?

@SVClois (http://twitter.com/SVClois) That's what we were alluding to,, yes. :super:
http://twitter.com/alseptien

I did not notice that. I probably watched that scene like five times too.


Nice. Though, that ring looks like a diamond ring to me, so I always thought it was supposed to be an engagement ring.

Looks like a pair of rings to me, the larger engagement ring sorta overshadowing the wedding ring.

You see that a lot...

[The Caped Knight]

I did not notice that. I probably watched that scene like five times too.






I noticed it the first time I watched the episode and I knew beyond a shadow of any doubt that she was not only married to Clark but she knew he was Superman .

The way she looked when she saw his chair was empty and his glasses were on the desk plus the smile she had as she looked up into the sky as Superman flew upwards confirmed that she knew .

[triplet]

I noticed it the first time I watched the episode and I knew beyond a shadow of any doubt that she was not only married to Clark but she knew he was Superman .

The way she looked when she saw his chair was empty and his glasses were on the desk plus the smile she had as she looked up into the sky as Superman flew upwards confirmed that she knew .

I didn't notice the ring, but I knew she knew.

The way they played that, with her look at the spinning chair and stuff.

Are there people doubting that?

:confused:

I guess people will see only what they want to see, even when the evidence hits them smack in the middle of the face.

:rolleyes:

[The Caped Knight]

I didn't notice the ring, but I knew she knew.

The way they played that, with her look at the spinning chair and stuff.

Are there people doubting that?

:confused:

I guess people will see only what they want to see, even when the evidence hits them smack in the middle of the face.

:rolleyes:

You'd be surprised how many were saying that she didn't know he was Superman and that ring on her finger wasn't a wedding ring .

When I first mentioned this in the Lois and Clark thread after the episode aired on the CW official forum a bunch of Chlark fanatics were clearly living in denial about the subject . They were saying that Nois (Not-Lois) doesn't know the secret and she not married to Clark, Clark's got married to Chloe and is working part time at the planet with Lois. and a whole lot of BS it isn't even funny .

I personally update the page Today with this twitter update in big bold letters on the site to send the message loud and clear to all those Chlark's fans who call me a lunatic.

Their still on their kick that ED isn't the real Lois and somehow Chloe's the real deal and in the end she'll end up with Clark.

It's come to the point that I just feel sorry for these poor delusional fans that are holding on to an idea that will never come to past .

[triplet]

I don't get their hanging onto that.

Once Lois showed up in Smallville, any hope that they might have had about Chloe turning into Lois shoulda died.

Erica is playing the definitive Lois. I loved Chloe back in the day, now I'm not sorry she's only going to be in five episodes, but she was never a Lois stand-in for me.

[Prison Mike]

I'm happy that the economy is better in 2013.

[DavidB1111]

Maybe Superman disarmed the world of it's nukes like in Superman IV: The Quest for Peace? And it brought in a new era of global Prosperity? :)
I'm kidding, I'm kidding!

But yeah, that's nice that the economy got better.

As for the crazier people, the world isn't fun without a bunch of nuts to point and laugh at. :)
This is the same group that came up with the Chlois theory, right? Yeah...don't name your theory that Chloe is Lois that.
Because I really don't want to think of Lois being into incest...which is the first thing I thought of when I heard the name.

[ZIPBAGS]

I am not sure if this has been discussed. I don't have time to go through 47 pages of posts. But, in the scene where Clark talks to the Justice League. Is that Bart in the screen on the far left? He doesn't say anything. And the 2 times (from a distance) you see the screen the picture is the same and doesn't move.

[Johnny]

Yeah, it is Bart. I hadn't seen it until now. Good catch.

[misjuevos]

hope impulse gets to actually be in this season, now that clark will fly. maybe they held off since clark could only run and impulse would make clark seem slower. also he might change his name to the flash since he is older now.

[John Locke]

Why would they hold it off? He already raced Clark and beat him in Season 3 and Impulse "fought" Bloome in Season 8 finale. I think they just wanted us to think he was in the conversation even though they didn't have the actor.

[misjuevos]

Having impulse would have made it easier for Clark to keep his secret. Whenever someone would suspect Clark Bart could just run past them. So that could be another reason to no use him.

[SpideyVille]

Just saw this tweet and I must admit this didn't even cross my mind when I saw the scene between Clark and Lois in the barn.

@alseptien In Sal #Clois barn scene,Lois is surprised bc of what Clark said(watch over U like the Blur) or she found the BoR in his pocket?
@SVClois because of the BOR.