OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull

[Brian Braddock]

Always saw it as ironic myself - guy who hides his face with a skull mask gets his face turned into a skull in an accident.

[gdw]

Always saw it as ironic myself - guy who hides his face with a skull mask gets his face turned into a skull in an accident.

Did he actually have that happen? I thought it was always a mask. I had previously always assumed it was not a mask mind you.

Also, that's not ironic, thats a coincidence.

[RetroNaz]

The same kind of coincidence that allowed Otto Octavius to become the Octopus.

[wobbly]

Did he actually have that happen? I thought it was always a mask. I had previously always assumed it was not a mask mind you.

Also, that's not ironic, thats a coincidence.

It did: He wore a mask until his original body finally died (around 1981), but Zola transferred his mind into a cloned body of Cap (so he now had all of Caps abilities as well). He liked having Steve's face so he stopped wearing a mask, but it was later disfigured to look like his former mask when he inhaled some of his own 'Red Dust' (it was presumed having Steve's SS serum in that body was what allowed him to survive the dust and caused that reaction to his face)

Main difference between the mask/disfigured looks was the latter was more like an actual skull, with bared teeth and so on.

[RetroNaz]

I wonder if they'll use any of that in this or future films, or whether they choose to "ground" it in reality (which is weird to say given everything else that happens).

I guess they'd have to acknowledge something like that if he's to be in future stories though. I wouldn't want to see an 80 year old Red Skull hobbling around on a zimmer frame.

[lixdexia]

it'd be wierd to see evans playing both cap and the red skull in a future movie...

[RetroNaz]

Especially when Hugo is total win in anything he does. Hell, he even made the pile of put together metallic crap Megatron interesting in Transformers.

[Brian Braddock]

It did: He wore a mask until his original body finally died (around 1981), but Zola transferred his mind into a cloned body of Cap (so he now had all of Caps abilities as well). He liked having Steve's face so he stopped wearing a mask, but it was later disfigured to look like his former mask when he inhaled some of his own 'Red Dust' (it was presumed having Steve's SS serum in that body was what allowed him to survive the dust and caused that reaction to his face)

Main difference between the mask/disfigured looks was the latter was more like an actual skull, with bared teeth and so on.


Yup - what was that? Cap #350?

Awesome issue; not only did it have all what you describe but it also had the long awaited John Walker Cap vs. Steve Rogers' The Captain, rendered amazingly by Kieron Dwyer, one of the most underated Cap artists of modern times imo.

[wobbly]

Yup - what was that? Cap #350?

Awesome issue; not only did it have all what you describe but it also had the long awaited John Walker Cap vs. Steve Rogers' The Captain, rendered amazingly by Kieron Dwyer, one of the most underated Cap artists of modern times imo.

The Skulls original body dying was #300, and his return in the cloned body (with the Walker/Cap showdown, the disfigurement, and the reveal of how the Skull got the new body) was #350.

He was only shown in that body undisfigured for that issue only come to think of it. Before that he was only shown in shadows pulling the strings behind Cap's resignation.

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, he was the one who also kept giving Walker chance after chance, knowing that it was tarnishing the costume more and more, what with Walker's very public Watchdogs massacre and the Mutant Liberation Front mauling.

Damn, they were some good reads. I know I'm in the minority here but I actually thought Walker made for a very interesting Cap.

[Spider-Fan]

I have that issue :up:

Good times! I love the part where the Skull dresses all those actors up as Cap and proceeds to kill them.

[Brian Braddock]

Yeah, that was brutal.

If memory serves, it was basically just an evil Skull/Rogers in y-fronts slaughtering a bunch of guys in Cap costumes - the part where he killed the guy with a replica of the shield was sick.

[RetroNaz]

Wow, that sounds brutal. I really need to start reading some Cap comics again.

[RetroNaz]

Wow, that sounds brutal. I really need to start reading some Cap comics again.

[Brian Braddock]

That issue is well worth a look:-

http://marvel.wikia.com/Captain_America_Vol_1_350

although I'd say that #327 - #350 as a whole was an excellent arc.

[Quark]

Hey Guys. Theres something which bothers me, a thought which popped out in my mind after a lil chat about the Cap movie I had with a pal of mine few days ago.

He hinted that he believes that THE RED SKULL might actually be a POKEMON !!

That s a megaton, isn t it?? Well, of course I m not sure if it s true so I wanted to ask the experts arround here for more information bout this hot topic.

My friend also mentoins that he believes that the Red Skull is part of the SINNOH Pokedex, and supposed to be able to capture after you got Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.

So, Could it be??

(ps. I would ve upload a poster which might be a proof, but I cannot upload attachments)

[captainrogers]

Hey Guys. Theres something which bothers me, a thought which popped out in my mind after a lil chat about the Cap movie I had with a pal of mine few days ago.

He hinted that he believes that THE RED SKULL might actually be a POKEMON !!

That s a megaton, isn t it?? Well, of course I m not sure if it s true so I wanted to ask the experts arround here for more information bout this hot topic.

My friend also mentoins that he believes that the Red Skull is part of the SINNOH Pokedex, and supposed to be able to capture after you got Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.

So, Could it be??

(ps. I would ve upload a poster which might be a proof, but I cannot upload attachments)

Guh.......I've gone cross-eyed.....:huh:
In spite of that, Welcome to Hype. :)

[Silvermoth]

Hey Guys. Theres something which bothers me, a thought which popped out in my mind after a lil chat about the Cap movie I had with a pal of mine few days ago.

He hinted that he believes that THE RED SKULL might actually be a POKEMON !!

That s a megaton, isn t it?? Well, of course I m not sure if it s true so I wanted to ask the experts arround here for more information bout this hot topic.

My friend also mentoins that he believes that the Red Skull is part of the SINNOH Pokedex, and supposed to be able to capture after you got Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.

So, Could it be??

(ps. I would ve upload a poster which might be a proof, but I cannot upload attachments)

yes and Captain America works for Team Rocket. (Methinks this might be a drunk post.)

[Quark]

Well, it isn t. Here in Germany we re not allowed to drink beer or stuff after 9 pm.

Or maybe it s because i m too young. 21 years of age, still a child ya know. And having told you guys where I m from you know now that english is not my native language. So please apologize slight vocab or grammar errors if you find any in my posts

Anyways, I uploaded the Pokemon Red Skull PROOF POSTER via Imgabanana

Heres the Link : http://www.imagebanana.com/view/5ioin6rg/SKULLIII.jpg

Awesome, huh?

I m really looking forward to the Cap-Flick, last time a felt these kind of a hype for a Movie was waaaay back in summer 2002 when Spider-Man first came out. And i wasen t disappointed. Hopefully history repeats xP

I also really want to see actually Nazis REALLY bad in this film, not only under the HYDRA brand. However, some sites discribed the Captain America Comic Con Footage they saw, and it says that in one scene where Johann Schmidt is in a Castle in Norway he weares an SS Uniform. Maybe with a swastika? I Hope so.

Nazis are an important part of the Character of Captain America, the perfect opposite to the patriotic hero of the US which stands for Hope and a bright future.

Even if not all Nazis really wanted to do what they did (the system basically forced them) they will always stand as the perfect example of pure evil, even in entertainment media.

So why the heck censor it? It s history. They re the perfect villains, and it would be sooo stupid having a Captain America film with that Patriotic Hero who punched Hitler and EVEN HAVE IT TAKE PLACE IN WWII and then not having nazis. That would be ridicoules.

I don t really now WHY I wanna see the Nazis so bad, maybe it s because I m german, and because I hope that there might be scenes in the film taking place in germany...Whatever.

And did you here that Weaving said that he wants to give the RED SKULL an true German accent???
I nearly jizzed on my keyboard when I read this.

Weaving is always awesome when it comes to....just talking (thinks of V).

And then a german accent..DAMN good stuff. You know, he said he wants an accent based on the way WERNER HERZOG and KLAUS MARIA BRANDAUER talk. As an german I ve seen many footage and interviews featuring them.

Both of em, German film legends. The way they talk seems to be perfect for an foreign actor to base an accent on them.

In February this year I had the honor to meet not only Leonardo DiCaprio for an signature, I even met Werner Herzog and he talked with me about his film (one of my favourites) Fitzcarraldo for about 2 minutes . It was at the Berlinale in Berlin. He s such an eloquent person. I hope Weaving will do a great job with that German accent thing.

[SuperFerret]

Don't post while being German. It's apparently worse than drunk posting.

[Quark]

Don't post while being German. It's apparently worse than drunk posting.

Says the Jew?:woot:

No, seriously, please no hating just because of Nationality. I really think that this forum....could help me....share my nerdness in a productive way:hrt:

[Silvermoth]

I thought Quark came up with some good points. As an Australian, I always think it's interesting to hear different points of view on Captain America than American ones all the time.

I think you and I agree on what sort of film Captain America should be like Quark. Making that comment about Superferret's religious status is not cool though.

[The Squirrel]

He's banned already?

[sabetoonth]

I think that might be the fastest banning I've seen on the Hype.

[RetroNaz]

What caused the banning?

[sabetoonth]

Not sure

Maybe the Jew comment?

[R_Hythlodeus]

WERNER HERZOG and KLAUS MARIA BRANDAUER
Both of em, German film legends.

:doh:
from wikipedia:
Klaus Maria Brandauer (born 22 June 1944) is an Austrian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrians) actor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor), film director (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_director), and professor at the Max Reinhardt Seminar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Reinhardt_Seminar) in Vienna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna).
Brandauer was born as Klaus Georg Steng in Bad Aussee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Aussee), Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria)

get yor facts straight.

[RetroNaz]

He's banned dude lol, that's ownage enough.

[sabetoonth]

Oh but there must be more :o


As for the accent, why wouldn't he go for it? he will be playing a NAZI they had German accents.

oh, and Schmidt had one too i think

[RetroNaz]

I didn't even really read the posts lol

[SuperFerret]

Says the Jew?:woot:

No, seriously, please no hating just because of Nationality. I really think that this forum....could help me....share my nerdness in a productive way:hrt:

Oy. :facepalm:

[BoredGuy]

the ban's a little harsh maybe
Kid got made fun of so he made a bad (kinda anti-semetic) joke back
He was brand new here and probably didnt even get a warning.

..But still funny, way to break the ban record newbie!

[SuperFerret]

I want to state for the record that I wasn't making fun of him for being German, I was making fun at the fact that he said that he wasn't drunk, just German, and that was why he posted about the Red Skull being a Pokemon.

Also, I'm not Jewish.

[Silvermoth]

oh my god, I hope no-one thought I was agreeing with his "jewish" comment? God I feel really bad for agreeing with him on what he said about Captain America. I meant just the historical goodies sort of thing, not that attitude he displayed later. I feel horrible.

[Eze]

So how about that Hugo Weaving? Hell of a casting job there.:up:

[sabetoonth]

I want a british RS damnit :cmad: :oldrazz:

[Sinestro]

When is a Capt America teaser expected?I want to see Red Skull so damn bad

[kedrell]

Superbowl, probably.

[Brian Braddock]

I want a british RS damnit :cmad: :oldrazz:

Yeah, because us Brits just make the best villains, dont we? :whatever: :oldrazz:

Come to think of it - I'd dearly love an in-depth analysis as to why exactly Brits always get cast as the bad guys in American films.

[Whiskey Tango]

Come to think of it - I'd dearly love an in-depth analysis as to why exactly Brits always get cast as the bad guys in American films.

Americans love the accent, it adds class to any villainous role.

[redhawk23]

Yeah, because us Brits just make the best villains, dont we? :whatever: :oldrazz:

Come to think of it - I'd dearly love an in-depth analysis as to why exactly Brits always get cast as the bad guys in American films.


because it takes a lot of ability to make a villian interesting, or at least realatively non-cliche and you Brits have a disproportionate number of awesome actors.

[cryptic name]

Yeah, because us Brits just make the best villains, dont we? :whatever: :oldrazz:

Come to think of it - I'd dearly love an in-depth analysis as to why exactly Brits always get cast as the bad guys in American films.

because of your damn tariffs. *shakes fist*

[lixdexia]

Yeah, because us Brits just make the best villains, dont we? :whatever: :oldrazz: yes:dry:

Come to think of it - I'd dearly love an in-depth analysis as to why exactly Brits always get cast as the bad guys in American films.
there are literally volumes on this topic. they are generally known as history texts:oldrazz:

[jab1118]

There is the whole history thing but I really think it boils down to your foreign which always helps, but we speak the same language so we can understand your accent

[Brian Braddock]

Lol. By that rationale - Hugo should just use his aussie accent. Y'now, foreign sounding but in the same language. :oldrazz:

Here's a radical thought guys and gals - how 'bout Hugo goes with a German accent, with the character being German and all? :D

[jrd550]

So how about that Hugo Weaving? Hell of a casting job there.:up:

Agreed. Hugo has not disappointed in any flick he has been in - and for a genre where the villains can be too over the top I am relieved Hugo is playing Red Skull because I know he is going to keep the performance grounded!!!

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[lixdexia]

Lol. By that rationale - Hugo should just use his aussie accent. Y'now, foreign sounding but in the same language. :oldrazz:

Here's a radical thought guys and gals - how 'bout Hugo goes with a German accent, with the character being German and all? :D
isn't that what he's doing?

[Brian Braddock]

One would think so, but I was responding to the suggestion that he should have a British accent (?)

[wobbly]

yes:dry:


there are literally volumes on this topic. they are generally known as history texts:oldrazz:

Lol :) What history texts would these be?

[Brian Braddock]

Probably the script for 'The Patriot'. :D

[Shivsguy616]

One would think so, but I was responding to the suggestion that he should have a British accent (?)

In an ideal world he'd be speaking German, but clearly the next best is to use a German accent. The idea of him having an English accent is, as you point out, idiotic at best.

[sabetoonth]

Which i why i was joking

[Brian Braddock]

We know you were dude - it's all good.

[superkong 500]

Everything is calm here. No news, i hope we get something by new year atleast. I would be happy with a full shot of cap in final movie costume, this time with mask/helmet on. Anyway I'am hoping that cap and red skull have a huge fight near the end of the film. I want them throwing everything at each other.

[Parker Wayne]

I still want to see a picture of him in makeup though. I'm surprised they haven't released it yet.

[Silvermoth]

You know what's odd? How the movie "Priscella: Queen of the Desert" is about the Red Skull, General Zod and Andy Warhol travel around Australia in drag.

[bert19]

You know what's odd? How the movie "Priscella: Queen of the Desert" is about the Red Skull, General Zod and Andy Warhol travel around Australia in drag.

Ha! That's certainly an original interpretation of that movie....

[marcvader]

Man, I can't wait to see Hugo with the Red Skull make-up on. I'm hoping we get to see it by early Feb but Damn its tough waiting.

[Brian Braddock]

Then we can expect the deluge of customary gems such as:-

'He looks too red/'He doesnt look red enough'

'His face looks too skeletal/His face doesnt look skeletal enough'

'He has too many teeth/He doesnt have enough teeth'

'His eyes look too German/His eyes dont look German enough'

[roach]

Then we can expect the deluge of customary gems such as:-

'He looks too red/'He doesnt look red enough'

'His face looks too skeletal/His face doesnt look skeletal enough'

'He has too many teeth/He doesnt have enough teeth'

'His eyes look too German/His eyes dont look German enough'

Permaskull vs mask

[kedrell]

Oh God! :doh: Just what we need...permaskull debates.

[marcvader]

Then we can expect the deluge of customary gems such as:-

'He looks too red/'He doesnt look red enough'

'His face looks too skeletal/His face doesnt look skeletal enough'

'He has too many teeth/He doesnt have enough teeth'

'His eyes look too German/His eyes dont look German enough'

And that's when I proceed to take my break from the Shh boards for a couple days.

[roach]

And that's when I proceed to take my break from the Shh boards for a couple days.

so what you gonna do on your break

[Brian Braddock]

Skulk around. :D

[marcvader]

Nowhere in particular. I just stay away from cbm boards. Sometimes a guy needs a break from all the idiotic comments you have to sieve through to get to good ones

[marcvader]

Skulk around. :D

Shoot, that's my usual MO.:yay:

[hame4479]

Theres a pretty awesome piece of concept art on aicn. It looks pretty sick.

[Spider-X]

Possible movie concept art:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/Spider-X/skull_concept1.jpg

Source: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/01/10/possible-concept-art-of-villain-the-red-skull-from-captain-america-the-first-avenger?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Looks pretty freaking awesome! I hope it's real.

[Whiskey Tango]

http://i51.tinypic.com/16hp0jl.jpg

[roach]

his boots arent evil enough

[BrlntDsgse]

his boots arent evil enough

:pal:



In all seriousness though, this looks FANTASTIC. Spot-on recreation, but here's a question.......How will they portray his skull face as coming about? Mask? Disfigurement? The mask doesn't seem likely as a mask in real-life would never have the look of the Skull's mask from the comics, looking like a real face that moves and everything (Green Goblin's comic mask has the same issue where it's portrayed as just a rubber mask that when worn looks like a real face/prosthetics in the way it's drawn.).

If it's disfigurement, then disfigurement in what way? Will, he get a small dose of his own red dust of death, not enough to kill him, but enough to still disfigure him? Will he receive a "corrupted/inferior" version of the Super-Soldier Serum, and the Red Skull look is just the end result of what Blonsky in TIH was starting to become before adding some Hulk blood to the mix?

Or there's another possibility I've thought of recently.....what if Schmidt already has the nickname of "Red Skull" before ever looking like that, due to being the leader of HYDRA. Then, once he finds the Cosmic Cube, he uses it's matter-rearranging powers to turn his face into a skull ON PURPOSE. I think this would be perfect, because the Red Skull doesn't give a damn about vanity, he's just pure evil and I could totally buy him choosing to look that way. Plus it would give us something different than the same-old "Villain gets horribly disfigured" cliche.

[HighFivingMF]

his boots arent evil enough
I agree. The heels are too high. What? Does he have Daddy issues or something? Is he going to slide up and down a pole for businessmen? Christ. Do these people even KNOW how to make a movie?

[Son of Coul]

Marvel bastards aren't getting a cent from me, just proves all they care about is their precious Avengers movie. If they weren't going to even try making his boots good, why even bother trying to make the movie good while they're at it?

[roach]

Marvel bastards aren't getting a cent from me, just proves all they care about is their precious Avengers movie.

huh

[Spidey_62]

Red Skull looks spot on.

[Whiskey Tango]

I wonder if he'll will look dry and sort of stretched/mummified, or if it'll be wet and oogy like his skin was recently removed?

[marcvader]

Hope its not gooey. That's just nasty.

[Whiskey Tango]

Indeed, the thought of punching a guy like that and getting a gross wet fist to show for it was what spawned that question!

[marcvader]

Lol

[roach]

unless is scabby...yuck

[marcvader]

And that's why Cap needs to wear red gloves.

[roach]

maybe thats how they get red

[Lone]

maybe thats how they get red

Ok, that would just make Cap's badass level go off the charts...:wow:

[dark_knight08]

Possible movie concept art:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/Spider-X/skull_concept1.jpg

Source: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/01/10/possible-concept-art-of-villain-the-red-skull-from-captain-america-the-first-avenger?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


This concept of Red Skull is amazing and that trench coat makes him more sinister.

[The Infernal]

Has it been confirmed if it will be a mask or his actual disfigured face?

[HighFivingMF]

Has it been confirmed if it will be a mask or his actual disfigured face?
The Red Skull face is real, the Hugo Weaving face is a mask.

[The Infernal]

Really? Now that I didn't expect. Where did you hear this? If that does turn out to be the case then I would love to see the unveiling scene where he takes it off.

[samsnee]

Does it have to be so red? And skull-y?

[HighFivingMF]

Really? Now that I didn't expect. Where did you hear this? If that does turn out to be the case then I would love to see the unveiling scene where he takes it off.
The Production Designer mentioned it in an interview a few pages back in the Cap News thread.

[The Infernal]

Alright, thanks for the info.

[Brian Braddock]

Really? Now that I didn't expect. Where did you hear this? If that does turn out to be the case then I would love to see the unveiling scene where he takes it off.

which will be giving children nightmares for years to come. :awesome:

[The Infernal]

which will be giving children nightmares for years to come. :awesome:

Now I know what movie to take my 7yr old neice to see. lol

[Brian Braddock]

Haha - do it mate. :D

[The Infernal]

Haha - do it mate. :D

I actually tried to see if she would watch Pirates of the Caribbean on DVD when she was 3yrs old, but she wouldn't watch past seeing Johnny Depp. Apparently she thinks he's a 'bad man'. lol

On the other hand she thinks my Clive Barker's Tortured Souls are cool.

[The Caped Knight]

Possible movie concept art:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/Spider-X/skull_concept1.jpg

Source: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/01/10/possible-concept-art-of-villain-the-red-skull-from-captain-america-the-first-avenger?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Looks pretty freaking awesome! I hope it's real.

Wow this looks awesome and very accurate to the comics .

[Sawyer]

Love me some Red Skull. He looks great. Cant wait to see that in motion. :up:

[Kurosawa]

Skull looks beyond awesome. The fact that the human face is a mask is even cooler.

[Darkness Falls]

That concept art is Badass :D

[MikeFrost]

The Red Skull face is real, the Hugo Weaving face is a mask.

Let's hope they make it as good as this:

hxH4mq6KaBo

[kedrell]

Agreed. That's one thing the MI series did really well. Not only should Red Skull use this technique but back over in Spidey-movie land, the Green Goblin should've masked up this way instead of a power ranger helmet. Hopefully in the rebooted series this will happen.

[Bren]

Personally, I think his belt is too blingy. Do the execs really think Red-Rapper Skull is the right direction to go?

[kedrell]

Define 'too blingy' please. It's just a flat silver-ish belt buckle. It doesn't look oversized at all.

[Bren]

Wait until I get started on the white background. Shows no imagination, this is going to be one boring film indeed...... :oldrazz: :cwink:

[dolcry]

Good heavens man! A blingy belt! I'm boycotting this movie, and all commercials for soap products.

And as for the white background... Bren, thanks for helping me see the light. I hate boring films. I noticed that Red Skulls wasn't trying to pick his nose with the cosmic cube. Why can't Marvel just get these films right?!

[Bren]

And clearly he's flying in that picture. Such a fail.

[MikeFrost]

Not only should Red Skull use this technique but back over in Spidey-movie land, the Green Goblin should've masked up this way instead of a power ranger helmet.

Exactly my thoughts!

I used this video on those boards to illustrate said point a couple months ago.
If these MI masks are believable, then they easly could have someone in a prostectic goblin make-up (http://b.imagehost.org/0834/imp_custom_orc.jpg) remove his face like this.

[Whiskey Tango]

Agreed. That's one thing the MI series did really well. Not only should Red Skull use this technique but back over in Spidey-movie land, the Green Goblin should've masked up this way instead of a power ranger helmet. Hopefully in the rebooted series this will happen.

I've been posting this all over the place since I saw it the other day. makeup/prosthetics combined with shots like the M:I masks being removed would be a great way to achieve this look imo.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2vcxpxg.jpg

edit: or what MikeFrost said :p

[Brian Braddock]

Personally, I think his belt is too blingy. Do the execs really think Red-Rapper Skull is the right direction to go?

Wow, as belt buckles like that one are pretty much a normal staple of an average adults males wardrobe, I guess most of us are bling and didnt even know it. :awesome:

Just jokin' - I'd respectfully suggest that a simple stainless steel belt buckle doesnt become 'bling' until, say, it's encrusted with diamonds or bears the wearers initials on Gold atop of it.

None of which I see in that concept art. :oldrazz:

[Rock Sexton]

Skull looks beyond awesome. The fact that the human face is a mask is even cooler.

I thought I noticed a red tinge to his "fake" face, which could very well be from the real face underneath.

[Bren]

(I can't believe people are taking me seriously)

[The Infernal]

I've been posting this all over the place since I saw it the other day. makeup/prosthetics combined with shots like the M:I masks being removed would be a great way to achieve this look imo.

I don't care how bad SM1 GG was, the purple tunic, evil Smurf hat and halloween mask will always be ten times harder to make work on sceen. Good art doesn't equate good costume.

[marcvader]

(I can't believe people are taking me seriously)

That's cause people actually do ***** about stuff like that on these boards.

[Bren]

Honestly, I thought my 'he's flying' comment would have given the sarcasm away, but oh well.

It's been said before, but bears repeating; we need a sarcasm smiley ;)

[Whiskey Tango]

I don't care how bad SM1 GG was, the purple tunic, evil Smurf hat and halloween mask will always be ten times harder to make work on sceen. Good art doesn't equate good costume.

never know until you try.

[Vartha]

Man I cannot WAIT to see Hugo in make up! lol

[The Infernal]

never know until you try.

Well that's true, but my opinion is that GG will always have to be adapted more heavily than other costumes to not just work within the realism and logic of the movie, but just to simply look good. As Green Ranger-ish as SM1 GG looked it's probably going to be the best interpretation for a long time. To me the classic GG costume is very much a product of its time and hasn't dated very well. Even HobGoblin (like the one in my avatar) who has a slighlty better look (in my opinion) would have to be adapted rather than translated on screen as he looks in the comics.

[kedrell]

Exactly my thoughts!

I used this video on those boards to illustrate said point a couple months ago.
If these MI masks are believable, then they easly could have someone in a prostectic goblin make-up (http://b.imagehost.org/0834/imp_custom_orc.jpg) remove his face like this.

I've been posting this all over the place since I saw it the other day. makeup/prosthetics combined with shots like the M:I masks being removed would be a great way to achieve this look imo.
edit: or what MikeFrost said :p

I've been using the mask effect in the MI series to slam the look of the Green Goblin in SM1 since the movie first came out and trying to convince others that THAT is the way his mask should work. Glad to see ppl get on board eventually.

[kedrell]

Well that's true, but my opinion is that GG will always have to be adapted more heavily than other costumes to not just work within the realism and logic of the movie, but just to simply look good. As Green Ranger-ish as SM1 GG looked it's probably going to be the best interpretation for a long time. To me the classic GG costume is very much a product of its time and hasn't dated very well. Even HobGoblin (like the one in my avatar) who has a slighlty better look (in my opinion) would have to be adapted rather than translated on screen as he looks in the comics.


I don't see the problem with tweaking the look of GG. Just use the mask(as discussed above) and some fairly dark purple-ish rags much like in the pic above and such. It's not 100% accurate to the original design but still 10X more faithful than what we got in SM1.

[MikeFrost]

Well the guy is a lunatic. It's fairly easy to accept that he goes into his split personality, puts on a halloween mask and goes out in his bedrobes :p

[darthlaney]

Red Skull - from the official costumes available

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/DSG10062.jpg

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=DSG10062&mode=retail&picture=out

[marcvader]

What's up with that?

[Sawyer]

Why do these costume companies even bother?! Their stuff always looks like absolute ****...

[Flint Marko]

Looks exactly how the red skull should.
I'm lookin forward to seein what exactly some people will find to complain about it haha.

[marcvader]

Get rid of the ears.

[lixdexia]

yeah, i'm not a fan of the ears. makes him look like a sinister monkey

[Lunar_Wolf]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/ZZ3923E026-550x412.jpg

[marcvader]

cool buckle

[Gunga Diner]

The casting and look of this character are definitely solid, but how he's written and developed will be interesting. Making him more compelling than just "Evil Nazi Scientist with Ugly Face #506-87.3" will be a challenge.

[marcvader]

Well one thing we do know is Weaving never mails it in. He elevates everything he is given to work with.

[Figs]

What the **** is up with that?? Revealing a ****** costume before showing us the real thing. C'mon Marvel...

[Whiskey Tango]

Skull is pretty much pure evil, even guys like Doom and Magneto don't like having him around. Weaving is good enough to sell that, I think. Assuming the script doesn't have him dancing polkas or something absurd like that. :D

[marcvader]

So this costume looks like it's patterned after the green one and looks like they're keeping the ears. Someone should do a side by side.

[MikeFrost]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge a look of a movie guy according to a costume released. Costumes tend to look **** or have design changes to accomodate the fact that there's a human actually underneath it.

The ears staying for the mask is probably just because people would have protruding ears normally. I dont really think the official movie will have ears as the concepts actually have shown us a much more sinister look for him.

[redhawk23]

Judging by that mask, I can totally imagine a very awesome non crap studio quality based on hugo weavings actual features. But yeah I don't get the ears.

[marcvader]

There's tons of generic skull masks that have no ears.

[Superman]

I hope the movie Red Skull looks better than that.:csad:

[captainrogers]

Oh it's got to man. That's like seeing someone wearing an official mass produced The Dark Knight Joker or Batman Halloween mask, before watching the movie, and expecting Heath or Christian to look as cheaply done on screen.

[darthlaney]

I bet it has all of the basic details though - unfortunately including the ears

[darthlaney]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge a look of a movie guy according to a costume released. Costumes tend to look **** or have design changes to accomodate the fact that there's a human actually underneath it.

The ears staying for the mask is probably just because people would have protruding ears normally. I dont really think the official movie will have ears as the concepts actually have shown us a much more sinister look for him.

That doesn't make a lot of sense - are you meant to fit your ears in to the masks?

A Batman cowl doesn't have ears to accomadate the fact that the wearer does

[nightwing06]

I think the Halloween costume looks cool,and thats just the Halloween costume so the mask/costume in the film has to be outstanding...right??

[conan69]

Yea, it just a halloween custom giving us a idea of what the character will look like.

On film, with the correct lighting and all, it should look fine.

No problem here, I think its ok.

[Dark Raven]

That looks less skull-like and more that someone has stripped away the layers of his skin.

[Brian Braddock]

Like the Ultimate RS?

[MikeFrost]

That doesn't make a lot of sense - are you meant to fit your ears in to the masks?

A Batman cowl doesn't have ears to accomadate the fact that the wearer does

A Batman cowl doesn't have holes in the place where the ears were supposed to be either. It has a bulge to accomodate them.

What I'm saying is, since they can't have a hole there like in the movie, they actually included the ears instead of choosing to have a weird bulge of mass there so that the wearer's ears would fit inside the mask.

[Gold Samurai]

Weaving's distinct features will make the movie Skull look really awesome

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/238/captainamericahugoweavi.jpg

[Galactus123]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/ZZ3923E026-550x412.jpg
No ears please

[Brian Braddock]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/ZZ3923E026-550x412.jpg

Y'know what - looking at it again, that guy looks like he's just stepped straight out of the dream sequence in An American Werewolf in London.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i51.tinypic.com/16hp0jl.jpg

Badass! Any idea when an official movie pic of Red Skull will be shown?

[darthlaney]

Interestingly, bigbadtoystore havevremoved the Cap and Thor movie products from their pre-orders. Codes are still present, but images have been removed.

[Whiskey Tango]

Badass! Any idea when an official movie pic of Red Skull will be shown?

No idea. Hopefully soon.

Of course we might not see him until the Super Bowl trailer. :csad:

[Superman]

Oh it's got to man. That's like seeing someone wearing an official mass produced The Dark Knight Joker or Batman Halloween mask, before watching the movie, and expecting Heath or Christian to look as cheaply done on screen.

I bet it has all of the basic details though - unfortunately including the ears

Yeah, That's what I was talking about.

I know it's just a halloween mask and they always look bad. I was talking about how bad the basic details looked. I hope the movie Red Skull has more of a "Skull" look than that does.:csad:

[Hunter Rider]

No idea. Hopefully soon.

Of course we might not see him until the Super Bowl trailer. :csad:

That's too bad as the Superbowl is only a couple of weeks away, ands it might be better to see the skull head in motion first as stills don't always do justice and cause panic on boards like this.

[BizarroAids]

That's too bad as the Superbowl is only a couple of weeks away, ands it might be better to see the skull head in motion first as stills don't always do justice and cause panic on boards like this.

I'm fine with that. After that mask pic appearing, people need to see the Skull in the spot to ease any worries.

[Doctor Jones]

I'd love to just see a quick flash of Red Skull with his head turning or something.

But I think a spot focusing on Cap in battle would be great. I'm sure we'll see pre serum Steve, then he emerges out of the thingie, and then the suit reveal, then war action.

[Enlil]

new art work for red skull :
http://www.cinewebradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1986:nouvel-apercu-de-red-skull&catid=29:the-news&Itemid=41

[Whiskey Tango]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2luxt20.jpg

[BizarroAids]

:hrt:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/spideyman05/redskullbust.jpg

[Compi716]

Even though that's not strictly movie related, it's cool nonetheless. I certainly hope Skull looks just as cool 3-dimensionally in the movie.

[captainrogers]

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/10300/74027904.jpg
on the first go around I didn't notice that skull reflection on the shield...huh!
:)

[Darkness Falls]

wow i did not notice that

good eye rogers :D

[louiebling$]

new art work for red skull :
http://www.cinewebradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1986:nouvel-apercu-de-red-skull&catid=29:the-news&itemid=41
want!!!! :shock

[BizarroAids]

That reflection really has me excited for the movie version of Skull. I love the scarring look we got on the concept art, hopefully we get a little of that in the final design. For a movie Skull, I wouldn't mind ears or without ears. Just as long as he doesn't have lips. :yay:

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