X-Men

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Marvel-X-Men-Teasers-100409.html


Um...really?

[kguillou]

Red Herring. I'll believe it when i see it.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Kill me now.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ha, this looks silly. I wonder what it's all about.

[roach]

the mentioned that the X-men were getting a brand new direction with new artist Whilce Portacio....maybe its not about mutants anymore

[Brainiac 8]

The New X-Men: Written by Brian Bendis.

The roster:

Wolverine (leader obviously)
Spider-Man
Psylocke
Ronin (what mutant is hiding behind the Ronin mask?)
X-23
Luke Cage
Spider-Woman

Mark my words, it's going to happen.

[venom892]

I'll wait and see but if Spider-man is a permanent addition to the roster it would be beyond stupid.So now Spidey has time to go between New York and San Francisco?Are all super powered individuals welcome in the X-men now?Plus that would mean Spidey is on three teams.

[Havok83]

Spiderman as an X-man is even worse than Wolverine as an Avenger

[Brainiac 8]

I'll wait and see but if Spider-man is a permanent addition to the roster it would be beyond stupid.So now Spidey has time to go between New York and San Francisco?Are all super powered individuals welcome in the X-men now?Plus that would mean Spidey is on three teams.

Namor I understood...heck even Danger I understood...as she's basically a mutant machine.

But yea, if Spider-Man becomes an X-Man, I may just give up. :whatever:

[TheCorpulent1]

Spiderman as an X-man is even worse than Wolverine as an Avenger
No, no. Nothing is worse than Wolverine as an Avenger. :o

[Iron Man]

Although this does look weird, it could work. It makes sense that the X-Men may try to expand their ranks to include non-mutants - their message is about peaceful co-existence, and what represents that more than having non-mutants on their team? Especially since they've lost this message amidst all the violence and persecution in recent years.

It seems sketchier on the Spider-Man side; why would he be interested in joining, and why would he be in San Francisco?

[hippie_hunter]

No, no. Nothing is worse than Wolverine as an Avenger. :o

Wolverine as an Avengers is pretty bad, but Spider-Man as an X-Men takes the cake.

[JustABill]

Unless the X-Men move off Utopia and back to New York.

[kguillou]

Fraction said that the X-men will be staying in San Fran.

As for Spider-man on the X-men, i gotta admit, its at least partially intriguing because Spidey and the X-men have always had a good relationship with each other. Spidey's always had good chemistry with the X-men whenever they team up. That said, it still doesn't make much sense. At this point its painfully obvious Marvel has no idea what to do with the X-men franchise anymore and they're desperate.

They're trying too hard when they dont need to try hard at all. Grant Morrison and Whedon used a simple formula that made the X-men work and bring them back to their roots. Its baffling why Marvel refuses to take their lead since it obviously worked well before.

[roach]

No, no. Nothing is worse than Wolverine as an Avenger. :o

Mephisto as an Avenger:woot:

[Havok83]

No, no. Nothing is worse than Wolverine as an Avenger. :o
No, this is worse. The Avengers are pretty open with their membership. I hated the idea of Wolverine as an Avengers but when he joined (at the beginning of New Avengers), it didnt seem so ridiculous. With a few exceptions, the X-men are pretty exclusive to only mutants. The few non-mutants were X characters already ande made sense. Spiderman makes none. He isnt even involved in mutant rights or have any type of investment in their struggles or anything that their personal story. I wonder how they will explain him being here. I hoep its just a teamup and not him actually joining

[TheCorpulent1]

If Pym's Avengers would break up for Loki, I can only imagine what they'd do for Mephisto. :)

[Brainiac 8]

Even Juggs made sense when he joined. He was looking for redemption (screw you Carey! :argh: ) and was Charles' brother.

[kguillou]

I too hate dit when Juggernaut became bad again for no reason. That pretty much sums up whats wrong with the X franchise, Marvel is constantly flip-flopping on what to do with the characters. One minute Magneto's good, then Morrison turns him bad, then Marvel scramble to make him good again. Make up your F***ing mind.

[runawayboulder]

Spider-Man is gonna be in the Thanos Imperative too.

[venom892]

It just seems like a way for Marvel to get the spidey fans who collect evrything with him on it to buy X-men too."Hey it worked with Avengers it can work with X-men!"

[Havok83]

I cant beleive they'd make Spiderman an X-man before Quicksilver. Damn it, Pietro should have joined ages ago!

[Doc Destruction]

Ha, this looks silly. I wonder what it's all about.

It's about Marvel going for shock and no substance. AGAIN. :awesome:

[CantThinkOfAName]

Wolverine as an Avengers is pretty bad, but Spider-Man as an X-Men takes the cake.

I think Corp's point was that at the very least, Spider-Man > Wolverine in general.

[TheCorpulent1]

More like Spider-Man being on the X-Men, whom he's got a pretty good working relationship with, doesn't strike me as quite so ridiculous as Murderman Jones breathing the same air as Captain America, let alone operating as an official member of the Avengers. It probably helps if you put it in the context of my utter and abiding hatred of Wolverine.

[TheCorpulent1]

More like Spider-Man being on the X-Men, whom he's got a pretty good working relationship with, doesn't strike me as quite so ridiculous as Murderman Jones breathing the same air as Captain America, let alone operating as an official member of the Avengers. It probably helps if you put it in the context of my utter and abiding hatred of Wolverine.

[venom892]

I was pretty upset bout Wolverine joining the Avengers too.Then again I haven't read any Avengers title since New Avengers #1.

[roach]

Marvel believes that changing things up is putting people on different teams...Spidey on X-Men, Thing on Avengers,Wolverine on Avengers....scares me to think who they threw into Fantastic Four....Dr Doom???

[hippie_hunter]

Black Panther and Storm.

[Eros]

More like Spider-Man being on the X-Men, whom he's got a pretty good working relationship with, doesn't strike me as quite so ridiculous as Murderman Jones breathing the same air as Captain America, let alone operating as an official member of the Avengers. It probably helps if you put it in the context of my utter and abiding hatred of Wolverine.

Captain america [and the rest of the Marvel U] has an Immense repect for Wolverine, and vice versa. Cap may not wanted him on the team, but the respect is always their.

[TheCorpulent1]

Uh-huh. :)

[roach]

I dont think Captain America has "immense" respect for Wolverine. He tolerates him.

[Eros]

I dont think Captain America has "immense" respect for Wolverine. He tolerates him.

Werent they partners during WW2?

[TheCorpulent1]

Wasn't WWII before the Weapon X project, back when Wolverine was still fairly civilized?

[roach]

Werent they partners during WW2?

No they had A mission together...unless something has been added I dont know about

[Eros]

Wasn't WWII before the Weapon X project, back when Wolverine was still fairly civilized?

He is what they made him, they took his memories and his life, and made him into a weapon, and he beat the odds and became a force for good as an X-men. Thats why I always loved about Logan, or about Hank Pym, or any hero with issues, they make the best out thier past, and try and make a better future.

[TheCorpulent1]

I prefer the Logan who at least tried not to be a murderous animal. The only thing that separates him from your average supervillain now is that he happens to be pointed at the villains rather than heroes or innocent people.

[Eros]

I prefer the Logan who at least tried not to be a murderous animal. The only thing that separates him from your average supervillain now is that he happens to be pointed at the villains rather than heroes or innocent people.

Current Logan is a parody of himself, its sad.

[roach]

Yes I also prefered him as someone who struggled with his demons instead of reveling in them

[Jake Cassidy]

I cant beleive they'd make Spiderman an X-man before Quicksilver. Damn it, Pietro should have joined ages ago!

and Firestar

Maybe we can get an Amazing Friends reunion going. :woot:

[roach]

they just released the new Heroic age FF:
Bucky/Cap
Wolverine
Spider-man
Deadpool

[Themanofbat]

If the X-Men are in San Francisco, then maybe that's the oft-talked about return of Ben Reilly donning that Spider outfit...

Now THAT would be interesting... especially since their was a recent Ben Reilly Spidey/X-Men story in last year's mini...

:yay:

[roach]

That would be kind of kool but why put him in the same spider suit Peter is in

it would make more sense to put him in the Ben Reilly Spidersuit or the Scarlet Spider suit

[Tron Bonne]

they just released the new Heroic age FF:
Bucky/Cap
Wolverine
Spider-man
Deadpool

I was thinking it'd be Dr. Doom, Magneto, Valrie Richards, and Wonder Man

[Dread]

Frankly, the superhero team that Spider-Man always had "chemistry" with during team-up's wasn't the X-Men. It was the Fantastic Four. And to the best of my memory, beyond one Jeff Parker/Mike Wieringo mini series, Spider-Man never "officially" joined the Four (and even that mini was for one mission).

If Spider-Man joins the X-Men, then the only adult team he hasn't been a member of in an official or unofficial capacity is the Defenders (or the Champions). Even his clone Scarlet Spider technically was a member of the New Warriors, although for pure commercial reasons (editorial believed such a move would allow NEW WARRIORS to be lumped into the "Spider-Line" of books in the 90's to survive, which didn't last).

I have heard rumors that this promotion is just to cement that after SECOND COMING, the X-Men will interact more with other heroes. Fancy that, the X-Men not just meeting other X-Men or mutants in adventures! Bizarre, I know. Maybe one day they'll mingle with people as often as those OTHER band of emo, haughty outsiders, the Inhumans. :o

The problem is Spider-Man is too upbeat for the X-Men. They endure nothing but misery and never smile. Colossus has both his girlfriend and sister back (and anyone who doesn't think Kitty's ghost form will be cured or Illyana's soul won't be saved, well, I have a bridge to sell you), and he STILL hasn't smiled.

Still...why Psylocke? Her heyday was 1994. Those days ain't coming back, no matter how much Marvel and DC would like them to. It's 2010. They are selling fewer comics at higher prices to less readers. The Internet is not a fad. Not even Wolverine sells as well as he used to.

[roach]

maybe he is hanging with them to figure out how to cheat death with out relying on the devil in a move i like to call Diablo Ex Machina

[ImWithTeamConan]

Random mini-series out of continuity or another X-Men Forever type thing.

[Themanofbat]

That would be kind of kool but why put him in the same spider suit Peter is in

it would make more sense to put him in the Ben Reilly Spidersuit or the Scarlet Spider suit

Showing him in a Spidey suit would be simply to throw people "off"...

:yay:

[Havok83]

Remember this issue? It was essentially a Spider-man book with the name Xmen on the cover. He felt odd and out of place even back then.

http://www.nexternal.com/dreamland/images/346.jpg

[Spider-Vader]

No, no. Nothing is worse than Wolverine as an Avenger. :o

The Avengers is a team for all heroes, the X-Men is a team for mutants... Which Spidey isn't. :o

Even Juggs made sense when he joined. He was looking for redemption (screw you Carey! :argh: ) and was Charles' brother.

Hey, atleast that'll be fixed in the upcoming (& awesome looking) Thunderbolts series.

[runawayboulder]

Remember this issue? It was essentially a Spider-man book with the name Xmen on the cover. He felt odd and out of place even back then.

http://www.nexternal.com/dreamland/images/346.jpg

I thought it was a great issue. Most of the X-Men where stuck in space and the rest had been captured by Bastion. I was never a huge fan of Scott Lobdell but he did an incredible job with Spidey, JJJ, and Robbie.

[Havok83]

I thought it was a great issue. Most of the X-Men where stuck in space and the rest had been captured by Bastion. I was never a huge fan of Scott Lobdell but he did an incredible job with Spidey, JJJ, and Robbie.
the X-men arent around, so lets write an entire issue centered around Spiderman instead? Spidey didnt just guest star....he was the lead role. The issue focused on him and was told from his perspective. It was strictly a marketing ploy. It had OZT on the label but wasnt a part of the main crossover and felt more like they were grasping here. The only signicant X related thing it accomplished was reintroducing Marrow, who had previously been presumed to have been killed off.

[kguillou]

What was Zero Tolerance about again?

[Havok83]

What was Zero Tolerance about again?
Bastion's plot to destroy all mutants. He initiated the Prime Sentinel program which turned normal humans into sleeper agent prime sentinels. The story mainly took place in Wolverine, Cable, X-men, X-force and Generation X. Wolverine followed a group of X-men who had been kidnapped by Bastion and followed their escape along with Jubilee who was abducted in Gen X. Cable featured him defending the mansion unsuccessfully as Bastion's forces stripped it down. In X-men, Iceman lead a team of Cecilia Reyes, Marrow and Sabra against Bastion and he managed to defeat him. I cant remember what X-force's role in it was. You can read more about it here: http://www.comicvine.com/operation-zero-tolerance/39-43899/

I loved the lasting effects from it. The Xmen were left with nothing. All their high tech and equipment was gone. They were broke as Xavier's funds were frozen. Cyclops was forced into retirement after a bomb was placed in his chest. 3 new X-men were added to shake things up. X-force broke off from Cable and went out on a roadtrip. Iceman stepped up as a leader and was taken seriously for the first time as a major player. Overall it was a good story with outcomes which changed the direction of the books in a good way

[kguillou]

Eh, I'll take your word for it, lol. To me it sounds like a giant mess of a crossover. Reminds me of how much the 90's raped the X-men franchise inside and out.

[roach]

actually it was a pretty good crossover

[Havok83]

Eh, I'll take your word for it, lol. To me it sounds like a giant mess of a crossover. Reminds me of how much the 90's raped the X-men franchise inside and out.
It was the last big crossover across the team books until Messiah Complex a few years ago. It wasnt handled like the other ones in the 90s where you had to get every book with a story told in parts that went from title to title.(like Second Coming today) Each book had its own self contained story with OZT as the overall theme. That allowed for each writer to have more freedom with his title instead of trying to coordinate how to utilize characters from the other teams and force plot. I loved it bc it actually showed the X-men vulnerable. In the end they won but not really bc they lost alot.

[Gamma Goliath]

So is there any art from this?

[Havok83]

So is there any art from this?
yea that teaser. Its not a book...its a direction similarly to what Marvel has been doing with the Avengers reveals. Im sure we'll be getting several revealing different X-men over the upcoming weeks

[runawayboulder]

Operation Zero Tolerance did indeed turn the X-Men's world on it's ear. It's effects were felt for a long time, I believe, at least until The Twelve storyline.

[Ikaris-Eternal]

Here's a thought: perhaps wait until there's more than a freaking teaser picture to call it the "worst idea ever".

[venom892]

Seeing that Psylocke and Spidey are bursting out of Jim Lee's X-men #1 it might have to do with X-men Forever.Remember when everyone thought those X-men promos were important and it turned out to be for X-men:Noir?

[roach]

Seeing that Psylocke and Spidey are bursting out of Jim Lee's X-men #1 it might have to do with X-men Forever.Remember when everyone thought those X-men promos were important and it turned out to be for X-men:Noir?

Its not for X-men Forever as 1)The second season starts in August 2) It would say X-men Forever

[kguillou]

The thing is it has the "we are the X-men" banner that marvel's been using to correspond to the aftermath of Second Coming.

[GL1]

IF "We Are The X-Men" is a banner, then Spider-Man may not actually be an X-Man at all.

[Havok83]

maybe its not even Spiderman. What if its a shape shifter, like Mystique?

[roach]

Mystique if memory serves me cannot mimic powers

[Drz]

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/11968storystory_full-1088198..jpg

[CaptainCanada]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/ColonelGreen/She-Hulk-X.jpg

Teaser #2.

This would seem to increase the likelihood that, as some people have suggested elsewhere, Fred Van Lente is getting involved in the main line of X-Men books (X-Force is the only current vacancy, I believe, but these characters would suggest a rather different premise). Spider-Man and Lyra are both characters he's been heavily involved with.

[roach]

wtf

[roach]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/ColonelGreen/She-Hulk-X.jpg

Teaser #2.

This would seem to increase the likelihood that, as some people have suggested elsewhere, Fred Van Lente is getting involved in the main line of X-Men books (X-Force is the only current vacancy, I believe, but these characters would suggest a rather different premise). Spider-Man and Lyra are both characters he's been heavily involved with.

Whilce Portacio becomes the reg artist on Uncanny for the new direction of X-men

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe they're resurrecting Exiles as a dimension-hopping X-Men team. They were always more open with their membership...

[CaptainCanada]

Whilce Portacio becomes the reg artist on Uncanny for the new direction of X-men
And?

[roach]

you mentioned the one guy coming on to the main books and i brought up that WP is taking over Uncannny

[runawayboulder]

I'll reserve judgment until Sunday when all of this is explained, but for now I'm not really impressed.

[Havok83]

maybe its not even Spiderman. What if its a shape shifter, like Mystique?
she cant but theres no indication that any powers are being used in that teaser.

[roach]

Spider-man is swinging on webbing...and while Peter is back on mechanical webspinners I dont think its public knowledge...nor do I see Her going so far as to create fake webspinners

[TheCorpulent1]

When was it public knowledge that he had organic webshooters? I thought Peter always kept his webshootery close to the vest. :huh:

[Havok83]

Doesnt Norman know all about Peter's webshooters? Mystique has been allied with him for months. She's had access to his files and info he knew

[roach]

I think thats Spider-man since the new pic shows She Hulk

[JustABill]

That's not She Hulk. This is the one and only She Hulk:

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/hoobity/She_hulk.jpg

[roach]

yeah well there happens to be a Redhead who is going by the name and that looks like is joining the X-men

[Iron Man]

I don't know much about this She-Hulk. I'm looking forward to having all this explained, though.

[roach]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She-Hulk_(Lyra)

[Havok83]

I think there will be a new Marvel team up book with the focus being on the X-men teaming up with various characters across the Marvel universe similiar to how the old one starred Spidey and had the same concept

[Tron Bonne]

That's a good guess, but why would the tease be 'We are the X-Men'? Like, hey, world and other heroes, We are the X-Men (not like we haven't been here for decades..)

[roach]

The we are the X-men banner is the new direction of the books

[Havok83]

That's a good guess, but why would the tease be 'We are the X-Men'? Like, hey, world and other heroes, We are the X-Men (not like we haven't been here for decades..)
I keep thinking of We are the World....lol. That song keeps coming up in my head bc of this

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I know, which is why I was questioning his theory

[Havok83]

That's a good guess, but why would the tease be 'We are the X-Men'? Like, hey, world and other heroes, We are the X-Men (not like we haven't been here for decades..)
I keep thinking of We are the World....lol. That song keeps coming up in my head bc of this

[roach]

this is just like the I am an Avenger teasers...we are seeing the Heroic Age X-men

[Tron Bonne]

That's what it looks like, but surely they aren't putting Spider-Man and Lyra on the X-Men as members. They have to be there for other reasons

[Shockdingo]

That's not She Hulk. This is the one and only She Hulk:

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/hoobity/She_hulk.jpg
....I love you. :o

Sigh...as a fan of the Hulk, I was enjoying things under Pak until the crossover. If they don't keep Jen, but keep Lyra...I'll be worldbreakin'.

back on topic; wow, that's a random choice: Magneto and Lyra on the cover. Wow, they are getting nonX-gene-heroes in on this. I mean Spidey was a bit of a head scratcher, but Hulk's daughter from another reality?! Whaaauuuuuuut?! :dry:

:dry: *confused, entering wait and see mode* :dry:

[stillanerd]

All I can say though is I really, REALLY hope--moreso than Spider-Man becoming one of the X-Men or whether or not he's somehow a mutant--that this doesn't mean Peter Parker moves to San Francisco. Because it would basically mean pretty much jettisoning the entire supporting cast--including both the classic and new characters--after Marvel has been trying to re-establish their importance in the books over the past three years, only to then be forced to create an entirely new cast out of whole cloth.

[Havok83]

All I can say though is I really, REALLY hope--moreso than Spider-Man becoming one of the X-Men or whether or not he's somehow a mutant--that this doesn't mean Peter Parker moves to San Francisco. Because it would basically mean pretty much jettisoning the entire supporting cast--including both the classic and new characters--after Marvel has been trying to re-establish their importance in the books over the past three years, only to then be forced to create an entirely new cast out of whole cloth.
or how about Spidey lives in NY AND in San Francisco. I mean you have Wolverine on multiple teams in multiple locations and its not an issue. If Spidey joins, I see his role here and his solo stuff being treated as two seperate entities, not mixing or needing to be cross-referenced with each other

[stillanerd]

or how about Spidey lives in NY AND in San Francisco. I mean you have Wolverine on multiple teams in multiple locations and its not an issue. If Spidey joins, I see his role here and his solo stuff being treated as two seperate entities, not mixing or needing to be cross-referenced with each other

Yes, but here's something else to consider: Wolverine has been more active in X-Men events as of late despite his New Avenger status, and is essentially out in the San Francisco area right now. It's entirely possible that, after the events of the Siege and the relaunch of Avengers as a result of the heroic age, certain Avengers get reassigned to cover the west coast in San Francisco, thus you have the New Avengers relaunch, which we know Spidey is a member of. And since Spidey over in his current comics is unemployed and involved with the Gauntlet in Amazing Spider-Man, perhaps events will transpire in those comics which would allow a greater chance for him to leave New York City altogether. Thus, since you would have New Avengers Wolverine and Spider-Man be in the same location and, potentially, be members of two separate teams with a minimal of "fuss."

[ImWithTeamConan]

Maybe this is how the X-Men enter the Heroic Age......by picking random characters to join the team.

[roach]

I dont know. the "We are the X-Men" banner has a very "We are Marshall" feel to it. I think something is going to happen to the X-men and they grab people to be on the team in honor of the fallen heores

[ImWithTeamConan]

Wait, so if Cyclops is alive after this and Magneto is in that promo, does that mean that Emma is dead?

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Hopefully. :woot:

Psylocke's still there, so I'm happy. As long as Angel and Iceman stick around, I don't really care who else is on the team. It probably won't last long anyway.

[roach]

Wait, so if Cyclops is alive after this and Magneto is in that promo, does that mean that Emma is dead?

makes sense if they have Hope become Jean reincarnated

[roach]

Spider-man:"This is awesome. Aunt May is safe. Marriage wiped away. Old gamblin man Peter is back on top.This maybe the first deal with a devil with no bad side effect."
Mephisto:"I enrolled you in the X-men, Guardians of the Galaxy, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Defenders, Homeland Security, Justice League of America, Republican party, NAMBLA and an extra on the set of the new Twilight movie."
Spider-Man:"%$#%$"

[roach]

Spider-man:"This is awesome. Aunt May is safe. Marriage wiped away. Old gamblin man Peter is back on top.This maybe the first deal with a devil with no bad side effect."
Mephisto:"I enrolled you in the X-men, Guardians of the Galaxy, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Defenders, Homeland Security, Justice League of America, Republican party, NAMBLA and an extra on the set of the new Twilight movie."
Spider-Man:"%$#%$"

[ImWithTeamConan]

"You're a......."

"Say it..."

".......Spider-man!"

[Iron Man]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/WeAreTheX-Men-3_02.jpg
Blade and Hope (who has a big Phoenix symbol across her chest).

[roach]

this is getting randomer and randomer

[CaptainCanada]

You know, in terms of the X-Men being people on the fringe of society, none of these non-mutant heroes are bad fits.

[CantThinkOfAName]

What the hell kind of haircut is that, Blade?:whatever:

[Drz]

You know, in terms of the X-Men being people on the fringe of society, none of these non-mutant heroes are bad fits.

Exactly. These guys might not possess the X-gene, but they are society's freaks at the end of the day.

[Eros]

Exactly. These guys might not possess the X-gene, but they are society's freaks at the end of the day.

Who spider-man, whos on two big name avengers teams since 2004? either way, I dont see Magneto working with non Mutants for a prologned period, let alone calling them X-men. espcially "Nobodies" like Savage she Hulk and Blade, a Vampire hunter......really.

[chris moore]

I think its just showing reintegration of the X-Men to the heroic age. Nothing more. Its like saying "The X-Men are more than the last surviving mutants hunkering down in one place and trying not to get picked on too much. They're a force for good against all evils. Using their powers to help humanity - not just mutantkind"

[Shockdingo]

Interesting way of seeing things. Hmm, well looks like Hope makes it out of this too. She's looking to take Cable's place as the gun based mutant for the X-men. Not liking Blade's haircut, oiy.

[TheCorpulent1]

What the hell kind of haircut is that, Blade?:whatever:
Lightning-chic. :o

[CantThinkOfAName]

He looks like he should get into a wedding gown and have sex with Madonna.:down

[Havok83]

Interesting way of seeing things. Hmm, well looks like Hope makes it out of this too. She's looking to take Cable's place as the gun based mutant for the X-men. Not liking Blade's haircut, oiy.
either she has no powers or she is strictly using the guns in memorial of her father (who I presume will die) or both

[Jake Cassidy]

Blade did get born with his powers, so it's close enough. Like Namor.

[CaptainCanada]

It's not like the X-Men haven't had non-human members in the past; they've got at least one right now.

[runawayboulder]

Hope = Jean Grey....shocker I know.

These are really weird teasers. My guess is things are going to get so turned upside down with the X-Men they are gonna get anybody they can on their team that's pro mutant. I think they won't have any leadership post Second Coming, whether Cyclops, Prof X, Magneto, or anybody capable of leading the team is killed, captured or taken out of the picture somehow.

[runawayboulder]

Scratch that. Magneto was in one of the teasers. There goes that theory. Major head scratcher.

[Havok83]

Hope = Jean Grey....shocker I know.

Hope = Hope. Jean Grey is collecting the lost Phoenix fragments, which Ive always assumed Hope was.

so this is Marvel's attempt to actually make Blade relevant?

[roach]

I am begining to think the whole mutant premise of the X-men is being reworked....i dont think they will be fighting for mutant rights as I really dont see She Hulk or Blade really giving a damn

[Dread]

You know, in terms of the X-Men being people on the fringe of society, none of these non-mutant heroes are bad fits.

Even though it got canceled, Blade should still be part of MI-13, and getting jiggy with Spitfire.

I suppose Thundra-Hulk fits. No one wants her, and she does nothing but further devalue the Hulk brand, alongside Rulk, Red She-Hulk, A-Bomb...

And Spider-Man? Who will be in AVENGERS and NEW AVENGERS? Who could get a room at the Baxtor Building and join the Fantastic Four if he ever asked? He's an outcast? On par with the wrist-slitting "there are only 200 of us, and we're all holed up on an island to die" X-Men?

If non-mutant super heroes were going to join the X-Men, it should be true outcasts; the Z-Listers that no one wants to touch, like NFL Superpro or something.

And yes, Hope is very obviously Marvel Girl III. I am surprised Cable didn't name her "Uzi" or something. He loves his guns.

[CaptainCanada]

On par with the wrist-slitting "there are only 200 of us, and we're all holed up on an island to die" X-Men?
Given that this is post-"Second Coming", the X-Men are supposed to be in a much more upbeat mood.

I disagree about Lyra; she's a character with potential. Her mini by Van Lente was good.

[roach]

However much like all these other Super people takes away from Superman all these other Gamma folk take away from the Hulk....was there really a need for another She Hulk????

[CaptainCanada]

Was there a "need" for the original She-Hulk?

The proof is in the stories told, to my mind.

[Jake Cassidy]

I actually really like the idea of having Blade and Lyra in the X-Men. As for Spider-Man, not so much. Unless they bring in Firestar and have a 'Super-Friends' reunion. :woot:

[JustABill]

Lyra...someone's excited for...the biggest abortion in comic books right now? Seriously? I'd take Rulk and She-Rulk over Lyra.

[Dread]

Given that this is post-"Second Coming", the X-Men are supposed to be in a much more upbeat mood.

I disagree about Lyra; she's a character with potential. Her mini by Van Lente was good.

It is about time for Hope to at least do something to get mutants to some middle ground between "200" and "millions" so the central metaphor can move on. The problem is the X-Men should have done this 2 years ago, and anyone who has faith they will now without proof is, well, a fan. ;)

She-Hulk worked as a unique female version of Hulk in the early 80's until now. But once you make a copy of a copy, you delve into desperation land. Hence is Thundra-Hulk. She's not even a rip off of She-Hulk, she's a rip off of Thundra. She makes X-23 look like an original character...but then again, so did Daken. And X-23 is so boring that she'd put a statue to sleep. Her origin is more interesting than she is.

But, yeah, HEROIC AGE seems a bit too upbeat for, "we're all dying", so hopefully M-Day is finally reversed to a degree.

Still not sure on the daffy promotion here. Blade is literally a buzz kill on a series. No comic he lands in survives long. Not even his own. You could put him in NEW AVENGERS, and it'd be canned in 12 issues.

[Jake Cassidy]

X-Men will survive with Blade.

It's X-Men for ****'s sake. :woot:

[CaptainCanada]

She makes X-23 look like an original character...but then again, so did Daken. And X-23 is so boring that she'd put a statue to sleep. Her origin is more interesting than she is.
X-23's a great character.

[Havok83]

X-23's a great character.
IA. X-23 is one of the best new X character to come out in recent years

[roach]

wow

[Brainiac 8]

So I see hope has adopted Cable's motto of "make sure you always have one or two guns as big as you."

I loved that about Cable. :funny:

[Brainiac 8]

IA. X-23 is one of the best new X character to come out in recent years


Agreed times 2.

If you have read any of her minis, she is quite an appealing character. In fact, in my opinion, she is much more interesting than Wolverine has been in years.

[Iron Man]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271261492.jpg
Gambit and Elektra today...

[Brainiac 8]

Funny enough, I would love to see those two paired off on crazy adventures at some point...they seem to be two that would work incredibly well together and maybe even have some crazy bed fun.

[roach]

so we have Spider-man, Psylocke, Magneto, Lyra, Blade, Hope, Gambit and Elektra

who the hell dreamed up this team..considering that we now have two ninja's on the team

[Brainiac 8]

Two ninjas and Gambit who is pretty awesome at Tai-bo among other martial arts.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, I guess they need those ninjas for X-Force, or a second secret assassination team?

[Brainiac 8]

Team Stabby deux. :funny:

[Havok83]

will Marvel actually succeed in making Gambit relevant again? I sure hope so

[roach]

will Marvel actually succeed in making Gambit relevant again? I sure hope so

wait til tomorrows preview of Rogue and Ghost Rider:woot:

[Brainiac 8]

will Marvel actually succeed in making Gambit relevant again? I sure hope so


That's easy, Marvel just fails in doing it.

Take Gambit and move him away from Rogue.
Pair him up with a team he can be awesome in.
Make him do awesome stuff while being snarky.

How hard is that?

[BoredGuy]

There's just NO WAY these characters are ON the X-Men, I see these teasers as simply showcasing the X-men's new role in the Marvel U come Heroic Age.


Hope, Magneto, Psylocke, and Gambit? Yes, and possibly with newly expanded roles


But Spidey, Ginger-Hulk, Blade, and Elektra?? Not at all.

I could see plenty of team-ups and crossovers and whatnot, the X-Men used to do that all the time.
thinkin this just shows that they will be a more central superhero team moving forward.

[Havok83]

There's just NO WAY these characters are ON the X-Men, I see these teasers as simply showcasing the X-men's new role in the Marvel U come Heroic Age.


Hope, Magneto, Psylocke, and Gambit? Yes, and possibly with newly expanded roles


But Spidey, Ginger-Hulk, Blade, and Elektra?? Not at all.

I could see plenty of team-ups and crossovers and whatnot, the X-Men used to do that all the time.
thinkin this just shows that they will be a more central superhero team moving forward.
(Marvel) X-men Team-Up #1 debuting this summer. Thats what Im predicting

[Franklin Richards]

Tomorrow...


Firestar and the Invisible Woman


:ff: :ff: :ff:

[roach]

(Marvel) X-men Team-Up #1 debuting this summer. Thats what Im predicting

1) This is under the banner We are the X-men. If you team up with the X-men that doenst make you a member.
2)Marvel has been releasing these with the blurb "Look whose joining"

[roach]

Tomorrow...


Firestar and the Invisible Woman


:ff: :ff: :ff:

Howard the Duck and the original Thunderbird

[BoredGuy]

1) This is under the banner We are the X-men. If you team up with the X-men that doenst make you a member.
2)Marvel has been releasing these with the blurb "Look whose joining"


Yes, because Marvel has NEVER mislead their readers before...:hehe:

[Havok83]

1) This is under the banner We are the X-men. If you team up with the X-men that doenst make you a member.
2)Marvel has been releasing these with the blurb "Look whose joining"
do you honestly beleive all these characters are joining the X-men?

Tomorrow...


Firestar and the Invisible Woman


:ff: :ff: :ff:nah its X-man and a Marvel Universe character. Both are MU characters (even thouh Firestar started with the X)

[roach]

Yes, because Marvel has NEVER mislead their readers before...:hehe:

you have me there..as a fan of Jean Grey Marvel has teased her return 6 times total

[BoredGuy]

lol, exactly

[roach]

Im glad I dont read comics anymore

[Tron Bonne]

I want Xorn and Xorn

[MWF]

If Elektra's somehow a part of... whatever this is, then I might just be forced to check it out. Haven't read an X-Men book regularly for about a decade now, though.

[Havok83]

If Elektra's somehow a part of... whatever this is, then I might just be forced to check it out. Haven't read an X-Men book regularly for about a decade now, though.
be prepared to be super lost

[fifthfiend]

i want xorn on xorn

ftfy

[Mace Dolex]

Im glad I dont read comics anymore
Me either, I just buy the occasional back issue or TPB but I don't know what Marvel has been doing to their characters.

I would keep up on the news reading Wizard but even that magazine has gone down the toilet so I don't know what are these New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Dark Avengers, Civil War, Secret Invasion, WW Hulk, Planet Hulk, Skaar, Dark Reign and all the other nonsense.

And what is with this Heroic Age stuff? from what I read it's a return to basics of going back to fun superheroic adventures instead of the dark and gritty stuff we've been getting these years.

[Tron Bonne]

And what is with this Heroic Age stuff? from what I read it's a return to basics of going back to fun superheroic adventures instead of the dark and gritty stuff we've been getting these years.

Well, that's what they've been hyping it as more or less. Though not necessarily fun superheroics, but a throwback to the older days of 'swashbuckling Marvel'. Some of us are skeptical, though, as to what this 'Heroic Age' really entails

[roach]

Civil War is what made me drop Marvel

[fifthfiend]

And what is with this Heroic Age stuff? from what I read it's a return to basics of going back to fun superheroic adventures instead of the dark and gritty stuff we've been getting these years.

It's more like the biannual empty promise to do that so they can squeeze a few more bucks out of the rubes while continuing to serve up the emo snuff-porn the diehards crave.

[Havok83]

I think Marvel has tried too hard to unify the books but in doing so has taken away from what made alot of them special. I can appreciate some of it and it hasnt been all bad but it does get frustrating when then all have a common theme and overall arc, especially when it increases the redundancies seen

[roach]

the few books that I read Marvel changed so that they werent the same property...Avengers, X-men, Spider-man

[Iron Man]

I think Marvel has tried too hard to unify the books but in doing so has taken away from what made alot of them special. I can appreciate some of it and it hasnt been all bad but it does get frustrating when then all have a common theme and overall arc, especially when it increases the redundancies seen

Yeah...the past few years it does seem to have been the same formula for most ongoings: "Tie-in to House of M - Tie-in to Civil War - Tie-in to Secret Invasion - Tie-in to Dark Reign".

[Mace Dolex]

I think the Ultimate universe line of comics had something to do with it as well, it became more popular than the regular Marvel 616 universe and Joe Quesada mandated changes such as taking my favorite X-Men of the 90's and handing them over to Grant Morrison by turning them into leather clad S&M grotesque abominations.

And while that worked for a while that was why Astonishing X-Men was created to bring back the old X-fans.

[Havok83]

Yeah...the past few years it does seem to have been the same formula for most ongoings: "Tie-in to House of M - Tie-in to Civil War - Tie-in to Secret Invasion - Tie-in to Dark Reign".
defiently. Like with Civil War and Dark Reign, the Avengers books basically had the same story, just told from a different perspective. I really dont feel there needs to be as many books in the X-men line considering most dont offer much different from whats seen in UXM and they all (w/exception of X-factor) run under the Nation X theme. Seems now they will be incorporated more into the regular MU and Im not sure how I feel about that bc I already didnt like the idea of Cloak, and Dagger joining not to mention inheriting all of Namor's baggage and trying to make Norman Osborn an X-men villian. It all seems forced

[Havok83]

And yes, Hope is very obviously Marvel Girl III. I am surprised Cable didn't name her "Uzi" or something. He loves his guns.that would be Marvel Girl IV, assuming she even got that codename. I think she's good enough as Hope and doesnt need one

[Tron Bonne]

I think the Ultimate universe line of comics had something to do with it as well, it became more popular than the regular Marvel 616 universe and Joe Quesada mandated changes such as taking my favorite X-Men of the 90's and handing them over to Grant Morrison by turning them into leather clad S&M grotesque abominations.

And while that worked for a while that was why Astonishing X-Men was created to bring back the old X-fans.

Pretty sure New X-Men came out before the Ultimate line

[roach]

Ultimate Xmen came out Feb 2001, New came out July 2001

[CantThinkOfAName]

It did not.


to Tronne Boneege that is

[venom892]

To be honest the best marvel books in recent years for me have been those that don't tie in to anything.Daredevil,Captain America,Immortal Iron Fist and GHost Rider by Jason Aaron have all kicked ass without any interference.It's the books I usually go for.

[TheCorpulent1]

Tying into stuff makes no difference if you've got good creators working on the series. Marvel's cosmic line has been phenomenal across the board (except for maybe two or three minis) and those are tied into various things. Captain Britain and MI-13 started with a tie-in to Secret Invasion and stayed at a consistently high quality throughout. Incredible Hercules started as a World War Hulk tie-in, turned out to be far, far better than World War Hulk itself, tied into Secret Invasion and turned out to be easily the best part of that event, and was consistently great when it wasn't tying into anything as well. Good creators understand how a shared universe works and know how to roll with the event punches well.

[Iron Man]

Tying into stuff makes no difference if you've got good creators working on the series. Marvel's cosmic line has been phenomenal across the board (except for maybe two or three minis) and those are tied into various things. Captain Britain and MI-13 started with a tie-in to Secret Invasion and stayed at a consistently high quality throughout. Incredible Hercules started as a World War Hulk tie-in, turned out to be far, far better than World War Hulk itself, tied into Secret Invasion and turned out to be easily the best part of that event, and was consistently great when it wasn't tying into anything as well. Good creators understand how a shared universe works and know how to roll with the event punches well.

That's true, but I find that a lot of titles - well written or not - fall prey to simply encountering and/or fighting the villain of the event, like when Tony Stark (not exactly the villain, but still the key character) was popping up everywhere post-Civil War and more recently, when Osborn and the Dark Avengers would pop up everywhere.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't mind that. It makes sense if they're pretty much the law of the land at the moment.

[Iron Man]

I don't mind that. It makes sense if they're pretty much the law of the land at the moment.

Eh, I'm not so keen on it. But it's not really a deciding factor for me - sometimes it works (like with Captain Britain and the Skrulls), sometimes it doesn't (like with the Punisher being shoehorned into Civil War). Not that I care about the Punisher, but you get my point :oldrazz:

[Tron Bonne]

Ultimate Xmen came out Feb 2001, New came out July 2001

Ah, okay. Well, what I meant still works. I doubt one affected the other much, if at all

[Jake Cassidy]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271261492.jpg
Gambit and Elektra today...

Yesterday I was thinking that it would be either Elektra or Black Cat. Weird. :woot:

[MWF]

be prepared to be super lost

Having attempted multiple times to pick up an X-book over that decade hiatus of mine, I know you're right.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Ah, okay. Well, what I meant still works. I doubt one effected the other much, if at all

If anything affected (not effected) them, it was that X-Men movie.

[Tron Bonne]

If anything affected (not effected) them, it was that X-Men movie.

Good catch, get those mixed up somethings. My grammar skills is weak sometimes

[CantThinkOfAName]

Good catch, get those mixed up somethings. My grammar skills is weak sometimes

You are killing me here:cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

U forgetted a period there.

[Mace Dolex]

I just noticed in that larger picture of Gambit and Elektra that they're tearing through the cover of Jim Lee's X-Men #1, damn I feel old I was 15 when it came out.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who's the artist on this? Gambit and Elektra look weird.

[Iron Man]

Hmm, this one throws things off a little bit. X-Man and Jubilee as a vampire? :huh:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271347938.jpg

[Tron Bonne]

Not sure if it's a pattern or anything, but it seems like all the reveals have been a X-Man couple with someone who has specifically contaminated blood. Radiation with Spider-Man and Lyra, and vampiric disease with Blade and a vampire Jubilee

[TheCorpulent1]

What about Elektra?

Does X-Man still look like that? 'Cause this seems like it might actually be an alternate reality thing after all...

[Brainiac 8]

Um...I've decided that this had better be something like that.

Vampire Jubes. :down

[Tron Bonne]

Oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot all about Elektra. Maybe her blood is contaminated with suck?

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a distinct possibility. :awesome:

[CantThinkOfAName]

Elektra's cool, you guys are lame.

[TheCorpulent1]

CTOAN officially endorses opposite day. :awesome:

[Shockdingo]

*spits out orange juice*
Wha?! When did X-man come back and when did ol' Jubes turn into a vampire?! What year is it?! Have the machines risen?!

[Shockdingo]

arrrgh, quick post is always making me double post these days. :(

[CantThinkOfAName]

CTOAN officially endorses opposite day. :awesome:

Frank Miller, Greg Rucka, so screw you.

[TheCorpulent1]

Any character can have great writers. Joe Kelly actually made Deadpool fun for years, as opposed to the tired, worn-out joke Liefeld started him as and Way returned him to. :o

[CantThinkOfAName]

Any character can have great writers. Joe Kelly actually made Deadpool fun for years, as opposed to the tired, worn-out joke Liefeld started him as and Way returned him to. :o

It definitely does explain the recent interest in Thor...



Aw hell naw!

[TheCorpulent1]

Damn, I set that one right up for you. :argh:

[CantThinkOfAName]

Sweet vengeance.:cmad:

[stillanerd]

Well, according to Kevin Huxford SCHWAPP!!! blog from yesterday, not only did he correctly report what toady's teaser image would be, but also what the story is essentially going to be about:

Mutants vs. Vampires. That's why you saw blood on the X symbol from the first teaser, why Blade was in the third teaser with Hope, and why Jubilee is now one of the undead.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Well, you know, even though I probably won't be reading it, I do hope they bring back that logo. All the X-men logos now suck.

[Iron Man]

Well, according to Kevin Huxford SCHWAPP!!! blog from yesterday, not only did he correctly report what toady's teaser image would be, but also what the story is essentially going to be about:

Mutants vs. Vampires. That's why you saw blood on the X symbol from the first teaser, why Blade was in the third teaser with Hope, and why Jubilee is now one of the undead.

I wouldn't mind that - I have a soft spot for the Storm/Dracula story from the 80s - but then how do Spider-Man, Lyra, and Elektra fit in?

[roach]

whats the facination with turning eveyone into a horror book...first Punisher and now this. Yes the X-men have fought Dracula before and did pretty well without adding stabby stabby people to the mix. So here are my theory:

This is an alt reality in the vein of I am Legend where Vampires take over the world and only the X-men stand against them. Even getting to the point of using the name as IWe are the Xmen is similar to I am Legend.

Here's a hint Marvel instead of throwing another X-book at us how about fixing the three you already have

[Iron Man]

whats the facination with turning eveyone into a horror book...first Punisher and now this. Yes the X-men have fought Dracula before and did pretty well without adding stabby stabby people to the mix. So here are my theory:

This is an alt reality in the vein of I am Legend where Vampires take over the world and only the X-men stand against them. Even getting to the point of using the name as IWe are the Xmen is similar to I am Legend.

Here's a hint Marvel instead of throwing another X-book at us how about fixing the three you already have

I don't think it's gonna be an alternate universe story...a lot of the X-characters that are featured - Magneto, Psylocke, Hope, X-Man - have all had a lot of focus on them recently. It just doesn't seem like they'd tease it like this, with these current characters, to have it be a What If. Not to mention that it's supposedly tied into a big announcement coming soon, and nothing that's not 616 or Ultimate counts as big.

[roach]

If its not an alt reality I will be disappointed....its not like I am going to buy this anyway...but the concept of the X-men has been slowly erroded away and I would see this as the last straw

[ImWithTeamConan]

Yeah I'm not into that idea.

[TheCorpulent1]

The vocal minority of Jubilee fans are not gonna be happy. :o

[roach]

3 people with shades and yellow trenchcoats are planning the death of JQ as we speak

[CantThinkOfAName]

I don't mind. I think the X-Men suck anyway. If this direction is bad, it would just be a different kind of sucking. But at the very least it just looks like they're just trying to do more "fun" stories compared to "cool" stories.

[CantThinkOfAName]

3 people with shades and yellow trenchcoats are planning the death of JQ as we speak

The trenchcoat mafia, but nerdier:csad:

[roach]

the reason the X-men suck is because they have moved so far from what they should be that its not even funny.

[roach]

The trenchcoat mafia, but nerdier:csad:

and they throw fire crackers instead of shooting anyone

[Iron Man]

To me, Jubilee became even more worthless than usual when she lost her powers. She can only get more interesting from here as far as I'm concerned.

[roach]

yeah but thats like taking the bullets out of a gun and putting a little knife on the end...its cool cause you can stab things but you know that gun should be used for shooting

[CantThinkOfAName]

A gun that could shoot knives, now that would be something.:up:

[stillanerd]

Well, well, well, things just got more interesting. Apparently, Mark Millar has now weighed in on this and is now saying this "We are the X-Men" story has screwed over his upcoming plans for his plans for Ultimate Avengers:

I'm just starting Ultimate Avengers 3, issue 5, and it's the arc I'm maybe most proud of. As trailered forever, this is vampires in the Ultimate Universe attacking mutants and Blade brought in to help the Avengers as heroes go down one by one.

Now someone's sent me a link to an X-Men event out two months previous that's exactly the same idea.

Seriously.

What do I do? This is what JRJR and I were going to do 5 years ago before Enemy of the State and I've been talking about it in interviews (and on here) since Ultimate Avengers launched. Blade's even on the cover to issue 1 as I've been excited about this since I had Blade painted on an ice cream truck in 1978.

I don't want to pull the issues as they're part of a complex plot that runs through my entire four arc run, but I'm almost finished now. I'm writing issue five of six and they're really, really good.

How the Hell did this happen? It wouldn't have been as big a deal if I hadn't started the series yet, but it's almost done and just going to look foolish following an X-Men event. Am honestly just so disgusted with this as I've talked about it many times. Thoughts on what I should do next?

http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=92793

[roach]

the left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing

[Brainiac 8]

Meh, I doubt that is what this is...Millar is just jumping to conclusions.

[roach]

actually that is what it is...the person who posted the spoilers for OMIT and Secret Avengers confirmed it

[stillanerd]

Meh, I doubt that is what this is...Millar is just jumping to conclusions.

Not according to SCWAPP!!!, who reported on this yesterday:

http://www.schwapponline.com/2010/04/mr-anonymous-reveals-2010-winner-of.html#comments

[ImWithTeamConan]

Wow.

Millar gets pissed.

Millar leaves Marvel.

Millar writes Superman for DC.

Most of the Marvel fans online rejoice (not including myself).

......or it could be Millar overreacting again.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Millar is not going to leave Marvel over this. I don't think Marvel would purposefully steal an idea of a comic of their own.

[Iron Man]

He comes across as a little self-important in his rants. Obviously it must be frustrating, but it's almost like he's saying "My story is the only one that should have vampires in it!"

[Brainiac 8]

Not according to SCWAPP!!!, who reported on this yesterday:

http://www.schwapponline.com/2010/04/mr-anonymous-reveals-2010-winner-of.html#comments


Wow, well I take that back then.

Color me not interested. :dry:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I can't say I care much that Millar's butthurt. Unless they literally stole the idea from him directly, he has no right to be mad about Marvel doing a story in the X-line that's similar to one he's been sitting on for five years.

[Tron Bonne]

Knowing Millar, it's probably just drumming up hype for his upcoming stuff. Maybe they are some similarities, but I doubt it was stolen from him just like I doubt Nechosaboshacon (or whatever) was a rip on Blackest Night, or that Brubaker and Morrison are ripping each other with their Captain America and Batman runs, respectively. Probably just similar ideas, and he's seen a way to get extra publicity

We just have Millar the master hype whore getting some news on his stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's double-edging for the 616 stuff, too. Only way I'll believe otherwise is if he does leave Marvel because it.

[Drz]

Yeah, I can't say I care much that Millar's butthurt. Unless they literally stole the idea from him directly, he has no right to be mad about Marvel doing a story in the X-line that's similar to one he's been sitting on for five years.

Marvel knew about Ultimate Avengers 3 since Summer 2008 when he got all the artists working on to each UA volume. I'm pretty sure Millar's just misunderstanding this. I mean his idea seems to be Avengers + Blade fightning Vampires who hunt Mutants. Now if these rumours are true, Heroic Age Mutants (and their pals) are fightning againts Vampires.

Yeah it can seem similiar right now, but i'd wait and see what actually happens.

[stillanerd]

Well, Robot 6 now has an update about this over Mark Millar's reaction to all this:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/04/mark-millar-vs-marvel/

[Tron Bonne]

At least it's good to know the comic media never fails to play into the game. It's what there for, I guess

[Iron Man]

Well, all he accomplished with his message board tantrum was embarrassment.

[Tron Bonne]

Well, all he accomplished with his message board tantrum was embarrassment.

Nah, he got what he wanted. People will still probably keep talking about even afterward when Millar says that he overacted or some ********. All kinds of little discussions about how true it might have, wanting to compare the two when they come out, if Marvel paid him off or begged him not to leave, etc. He's brought attention to it, and it sinks or floats in hype world from here, unless they try to milk it further.

[Nathan]

I just saw in another thread that Jubilee is a vampire. What the hell? How did that happen? Why did that happen?

[roach]

see when Marvel doesnt use a character long enough they become vampires

[CantThinkOfAName]

Feminine hygiene is a fickle beast.

[roach]

wait till they dig up Jean Grey

[ImWithTeamConan]

Damn, I thought it was going to be something a little more interesting than X-Men vs. Vampires. Cashing in on Twilight guys, really?

[roach]

Damn, I thought it was going to be something a little more interesting than X-Men vs. Vampires. Cashing in on Twilight guys, really?

holy hell there's the connection. In twilight vampires glisten.....Jubilee:csad:

[Ipodman]

Well... the whole Zombie thing happening in both DC and Marvel is getting dull for them maybe?

[Nathan]

holy hell there's the connection. In twilight vampires glisten.....Jubilee:csad:

Oh... ****....

[JustABill]

Oh the irony...I'm surprised I didn't think of that.

[squeekness]

You know, they did a vampire Gambit and Storm in Mutant X and they pulled it off fairly well. :D

[Iron Man]

Marvel has a brief description for each character on their website (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11968.we_are_the_x-men). Careful though, it's got a few glaring Second Coming spoilers in it.

[Drz]

Ultimate Avengers 3 problem fixed (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=92822) and as a extra treat it seems UA3 will ship a month or two earlier. Thats pretty damn awesome if you ask me. :up:

[roach]

yeah well maybe he should have done that in the first place instead of running to the internet

[The Infernal]

wait till they dig up Jean Grey

That's been done so often now it's not funny anymore. If only someone would tell Marvel that. :whatever:

[roach]

That's been done so often now it's not funny anymore. If only someone would tell Marvel that. :whatever:

no they have teased her return more times than the WB teased Clark was gonna fly

[The Infernal]

Good point. What is it now? Series 8 and still can't fly, yet he got most if not all of them in the first couple of series. That and the fact that the series essentially ends before he puts on the cape.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the more pertinent question is why would anyone still be watching Smallville? :huh:

[roach]

I stopped watching when they came up with dumb reasons to explain why he wont explore his full potential. If I had any credible news that I could fly...seasons 1-8 would be episode after episode of me in my back yard trying to fly

[The Infernal]

I think the more pertinent question is why would anyone still be watching Smallville? :huh:

I didn't know they were. I'm just hoping it's put out of its misery and the audience given some closure, then I might start watching again for the finale.