What characters do you want to return/appear in Wolverine 2

[ALittlePush]

Simple question. What characters do you want to see return/appear in Wolverine 2?


I would like to see Victor Creed and Gambit return. I thought they were some of the best bits in Wolverine.

[TheVelvetOnion]

I would love to see both Victor Creed but it would be difficult because of wolverines mind loss.

Gambit on the other hand could return because if you look at the scenes where Wolverine and Gambit had there were only current so Wolverine doesnt really have much history with Gambit, if you recalled, they meet, they mention stryker, they fight, there on a plane, later Gambit returns to help Wolverine out... so really Gambit doesnt know much about Wolverines past, Wolverine never said anything about how he left them and what he did there... so Gambit only knows a little bit about stryker but doesnt know what wolverines involvement is, only that he wanted revenge. Gambit also knew that wolverine was successful in getting his revenge and he rescued some kids... so Wolverine could potentially seek out what happened to cyclops and the others to find out his past, which would make sense of x-men first class as a brief cameo.

[FaT_tONle]

Omega Red.

[Karelia]

I'm probably the only person that will say this, but I wouldn't mind Deadpool popping up for a few scenes. In his costume that is.

I'd like to see Sabertooth, Omega Red, and Gambit as well. :D

[insane polaris]

Domino.

[Sawyer]

All I want is some characters that actually belong in a Wolverine movie.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Wouldnt mind Gambit making another appearence, hopefully with a bit more screentime this time, and I wouldnt mind a cameo by Creed and Stryker either.

My cameo idea is this, could be an after credits scene, Creed is lying on a table in a lab, , Stryker says he has developed a mutant enhancer syrum, and this is the only way he cant get him close to Wolverine as Creed wouldnt survive the adamantium bonding process, Stryker injects it into him, and on the table we see Creed morph more into the Sabretooth from X1, Stryker asks him how he feels, Creed roars, hits Stryker, obviously not killing him, and jumps through the wall into the wilderness.

Would then tie it into X1 brilliantly.

[TNC9852002]

I'm not sure if I like the idea of Gambit returning. I'd much rather see the introduction of Alpha Flight, Silver Samurai, or maybe some X-Force (Forge, X-23, Vanisher, Wolfsbane..etc).

Having Creed return seems like a no-brainer..

[sabetoonth]

Sabretooth, Mariko, and thats really all i got, Omega Red would be cool though

[Captain America]

Sabertooth is the most important to have back.

[henzINNIT]

Sabertooth was the best and most wasted part of XOW. I'd like to see him in a better role.

[Captain America]

He needs to begin turning more animal like in this one

[Doc Ock]

Victor Creed, except as a minor character this time for some other major character to be the villain.

[david icke]

Mariko is a cert.
I will be pissed off if we don't get the Silver Samurai in the Japan movie, we need a great fight between those two, his mutant energy channeled through his sword can cut through Logan's adamantium bones(according to issue 2 vol1 of Wolverine), so he has to be in there, an opponent who actually poses a serious mortal threat to Logan.

Sunfire would be good too, he was always good value as a loudmouthed arrogant type.

I would also like to see Gambit return as I liked their buddy vibe on the plane in xmo:w. But, I think I would prefer him to accidently run into Logan in a 3rd movie set in Madripoor. That seems like the kind of place a gambler and thief like Gambit would end up, instead of just having him randomly show up in Japan.
If he doesn't show up in a Wolverine solo flick, I'd like to see him in one of the First Class movies. Ideally both, have him in X-Men, have him leave the school, and then show up in Wolverine 3, so they can all be linked up in a cool way without Logan cameoing in X-men, which would be a mistake.
I thought the kid was good as Gambit, they should definitely use him for another X-film.

I would also like to see Rough-house and Bloodscream, ideally in Madripoor, but Japan would be fine too.

It's a pity they wasted Lady Deathstrike as nothing more than a sfx in X2, she would have been good for a Wolverine solo.

[katie_girl09]

I still think that IF (and that's a big if) Gambit were in Japan it could make sense. Thieves travel a lot. His motives don't have to have anything to do with Wolverine.

[Beanjuice]

Sabretooth, Maverick(Not agent Zero), Silver Samurai,and maybe Lady Deathstrike. She has to come about eventually

[david icke]

I still think that IF (and that's a big if) Gambit were in Japan it could make sense. Thieves travel a lot. His motives don't have to have anything to do with Wolverine.

Yeah, I suppose i was thinking of him showing up later in somewhere like Madripoor because it's lowtown is a haven for the gamblers and thiefs and the like.

If they do have him showing up in Japan, I would like there to be some kind of plot point involving mutants bringing them together. As it might feel like too much of a coincidental convenience bringing them back together on the other side of the world just by chance in the next movie.Maybe someone is recruiting mutant thiefs/crooks/tough guys specifically, so Gambit is there, and an offer is made to Logan after someone sees him in action.

[Piz]

maybe some X-Force (Forge, X-23, Vanisher, Wolfsbane..etc).
agreed with this

[Squidboy]

I'd say as many characters that would make sense. Silver Samurai will more than likely be involved, as would Mariko. A cameo appearance from a young version of Lady Deathstrike would be cool, as would some other Japanese characters that wouldn't otherwise be used in the other X-Movies (ie. Sunfire/Sunpyre)

[Angamb]

None x-man/woman.

Let the xmen stay away from this spìn-off. Wolverine 1 was enough.

[Squidboy]

Yeah, we don't need to see young Xavier and Magneto appearing out of nowhere, just so some fanboys can squeal at the needless cameos. The story doesn't need to be a team movie - it is a Wolverine SOLO movie afterall - so only the bare minimum should be used. Take it from Watchmen, which only had 6 main characters and still managed to be relatively truthful to the comics, as well as carry a great story for the film.

[TheVelvetOnion]

You know i think the young xavier we saw at the end of Origins could return... maybe in a small cameo.

[Squidboy]

That would add a new element to the story (which was explored recently in a Wolverine: Origins/X-Men Legacy crossover that saw that Xavier had met Logan prior to recruiting him), but I'd prefer it if they simplify the timeline in order to keep the integrity of the original trilogy intact. Otherwise, this might as well be a franchise reboot, and we can just get moving towards the Dark Phoenix Saga again

[vinegar_q]

Mariko, Yukio, and the silver samurai......how about just characters that actually belong in the original Japanese storyline...please no more cameos.

[S_H_F_4839]

I would like to see silver samurai and mariko in significant roles, I think the samurai could slice wolverines eye and we could see wolverine with an eyepatch at one part while his healing factor is trying to over come the injury, maybe have the samurais energy retard his healing factor temporarily.

I wouldn't mind seeing alpha flight in a post credits cameo. I think wolverine and marikos relationship should be explored and it could show how she develops the healing factor so she can withstand the adimantium process.
I wouldn't mind seeing stryker approach her in a post credit scene also. after wolverine leaves her in japan.

I could see them using forge also as wolverines support in this movie coming up with something that is able to deflect the samurais sword which wolverine uses to beat him.
samurai should also be the one that kills marikos father as a way of getting to wolverine.

[sabetoonth]

Yuriko is Deathstrike, jsut so ya know, they didnt make them the same person in X2 did they?

[S_H_F_4839]

Yuriko is Deathstrike, jsut so ya know, they didnt make them the same person in X2 did they?

at the time of posting I did not know and they could still work with it, just have to fudge with the characters a little, like they always do in these movies.

I did a little research on it and what if they made it so the samurai was like yurikos father or something along those lines, I am a comic reader just not a big wolverine reader.

[sabetoonth]

i know the Silver Samurai is Mariko's cousin

[S_H_F_4839]

well maybe yuriko could be one the samurais partners or a girlfriend of that sort.

[Squidboy]

That would raise the question of how Logan didn't recognize her from the second film. Unless more adamantium bullets are lying around, of course

[sabetoonth]

Samurai's sword i believe not only nutralizes Logan's healing factor, but cant it cut through Adamantium? imnot sure im not very versed in the characters history or powers.

if they use Yuriko, i jsut read her history and she only has connections to Logan's past becuase ehr father invented the bonding process

[Squidboy]

They would probably change up Silver Samurai's powers a little, like they've done with a lot of the characters in the movies. His powers could probably charge up his sword (think Gambit without the explosions), but the sword itself will more than likely be a normal weapon. Maybe Logan could destroy his sword early on, and he eventually gets a pure adamantium one to face Logan for the honor of Mariko, and they could have Deathstrike's father be the one to craft the sword (just as a nice nod to the books, nothing major). And you might be thinking of the Muramasa(?) blade that neutralizes the healing factor of mutants, though I wouldn't be surprised if the two were combined as one for the sake of the movie.

[sabetoonth]

maybe ive been reading too much about comics sword, but i remember how SS's sword was special for some reason, i jsut cant remember exactly. maybe a mention of the Maramusa or an allusion to it could be a cool nod to the fans

[S_H_F_4839]

That would raise the question of how Logan didn't recognize her from the second film. Unless more adamantium bullets are lying around, of course

or they could retcon it and say its because of his healing factor erasing hurtful memories lol

[javi1024]

if were going to japan, no question- Mariko and Silver Samurai.

[Squidboy]

maybe ive been reading too much about comics sword, but i remember how SS's sword was special for some reason, i jsut cant remember exactly. maybe a mention of the Maramusa or an allusion to it could be a cool nod to the fans

It can cut through anything but adamantium, so it could do damage to Logan, but he'd heal right up because SS can't very well cut him to bits until the bits stop healing, if he can't even cut through the bone.

or they could retcon it and say its because of his healing factor erasing hurtful memories lol

That was a pretty lame move in the comics, but it worked for what it was in Origin. In the movies, it wouldn't get the timing or effort put towards making it believable - it would just be dropped there as an idea and we'd have to accept it by the time the movie already moved on.

[Squidboy]

maybe ive been reading too much about comics sword, but i remember how SS's sword was special for some reason, i jsut cant remember exactly. maybe a mention of the Maramusa or an allusion to it could be a cool nod to the fans

It can cut through anything but adamantium, so it could do damage to Logan, but he'd heal right up because SS can't very well cut him to bits until the bits stop healing, if he can't even cut through the bone.

or they could retcon it and say its because of his healing factor erasing hurtful memories lol

That was a pretty lame move in the comics, but it worked for what it was in Origin. In the movies, it wouldn't get the timing or effort put towards making it believable - it would just be dropped there as an idea and we'd have to accept it by the time the movie already moved on.

[sabetoonth]

Yukio, who is not Yuriko, or Mariko, was like Logan's Black Cat, introducing her could be interesting

[david icke]

It can cut through anything but adamantium, so it could do damage to Logan, but he'd heal right up because SS can't very well cut him to bits until the bits stop healing, if he can't even cut through the bone.


Damn, i thought his sword and mutant energy could cut through adamantium. In Wolverine vol1 no2, while fighting him Wolverine thinks...'he channels his mutant energy through his sword, which can cut through anything, including, he likes to boast, my adamantium skeleton.'

I suppose he could have just been boasting about that, and not known if it was true, when he was fighting logan he did not know it was wolverine as logan was in the 'Patch' identity.

[Squidboy]

According to Marvel.com, Samurai did use the Muramasa blade at one time, which is the one that neutralizes the healing factor of mutants. So it is possible that the sword he used when he said that could have been the same blade, though I'm still not sure whether Muramasa is powerful enough to cut through adamantium as well

[Superhero 101]

I think Matsu'o Tsurayaba should definitely be in the next film, and then through him they can introduce Omega Red who Matsu'o hires to take down Wolverine because Logan is causing some problem in the villages. i think it would be a really great idea.

[S_H_F_4839]

That was a pretty lame move in the comics, but it worked for what it was in Origin. In the movies, it wouldn't get the timing or effort put towards making it believable - it would just be dropped there as an idea and we'd have to accept it by the time the movie already moved on.

agreed they would probably say its a side effect of wolverine losing his healing factor and when it comes back he starts forgetting things would be stupid yet funny to see at the same time

[Squidboy]

He should just drink sake until he forgets how to blink and while his body starts healing up from that, some of his memories are permanently lost.

[anrrd_2]

a real interpretation of Deadpool (4th wall and all) to offer a better segway into his own film :)

[blakegilham]

Wolverine was pretty good, and of course you could use Styker and Sabertooth again, because they appeared in the actual X-Men trilogy. But Gambit could for sure make a return, and i would like to see the Blob return, just to have something to laugh at...

[sabetoonth]

if Logan met Vic again then why wouldnt he remember him in X1?
thats my only problem with bringing back Sabretooth

[Squidboy]

That's why Sabretooth should go over to First Class, so we still get the character, we get to close the gap between the end of Wolverine and the beginning of X-MEN, and we also get a mutant or two on Magneto's side of things in that film.

It's a shame that Logan didn't remember Sabretooth in the first movie.. the whole "Imma gut you on yer birthday" idea between them is ridiculous, but a cool part of their relationship, and it was also in one of the early drafts of that script - I guess dropping it just helped move things forward faster.

[sabetoonth]

i actually totally forget about the birthay gutting, and i play Vic over at Allstar, though that version is different in alot of ways

[Squidboy]

i actually totally forget about the birthay gutting, and i play Vic over at Allstar, though that version is different in alot of ways

It's alright - I RPed for about four years, and after a while of that I started to merge what was going on in the RP with the comic continuity :funny:

[sabetoonth]

haha, nice, , Allstar is always looking for new blood :awesome: *shameless Advertising*

[HULK]

Sabertooth was the best and most wasted part of XOW. I'd like to see him in a better role.

I Second this :up: I'm really looking forward to seeing Sabertooth again

[Psykoelf]

Hmm Japan. Characters?...
Silver Samurai has to be a given
Mariko also a given
Yukio may be a given
Gambit must be a given
Matsuo Tsuryaba
Kwannon Psylocke (disregard the X3 Psylocke as someone with a bad dye job, trying to be all cool and up in it. Also no shadow slipping)
Sunfire
Indeterminate number of Hand ninja's
Lastly, if Mariko is in, then maybe be easter egg treated to a glimpse of baby Daken

[Squidboy]

Hmm Japan. Characters?...
Silver Samurai has to be a given
Mariko also a given
Yukio may be a given
Gambit must be a given
Matsuo Tsuryaba
Kwannon Psylocke (disregard the X3 Psylocke as someone with a bad dye job, trying to be all cool and up in it. Also no shadow slipping)
Sunfire
Indeterminate number of Hand ninja's
Lastly, if Mariko is in, then maybe be easter egg treated to a glimpse of baby Daken

Daken tearing his momma's stomach open would be an awesome post-credits scene, but alas, unless a Wolverine 3 were to take place after X-Men: The Last Stand, it'd be hard to follow through with that angle.

[Psykoelf]

Daken tearing his momma's stomach open would be an awesome post-credits scene, but alas, unless a Wolverine 3 were to take place after X-Men: The Last Stand, it'd be hard to follow through with that angle.


Ok, either you've been reading too much Poppy Z Brite or watched the Aliens series a lot lol!! IF Mariko is in W2 then she should die, but perhaps Daken birthed by caesarian...by Silver Samurai or Logan himself. His birth should be violent or affected by violence.

Is this too macabre for people? Soz to gross people out

[Psykoelf]

Daken tearing his momma's stomach open would be an awesome post-credits scene, but alas, unless a Wolverine 3 were to take place after X-Men: The Last Stand, it'd be hard to follow through with that angle.


Ok, either you've been reading too much Poppy Z Brite or watched the Aliens series a lot lol!! IF Mariko is in W2 then she should die, but perhaps Daken birthed by caesarian...by Silver Samurai or Logan himself. His birth should be violent or affected by violence and doesn't really need to be followed through until sometime much later.

Is this too macabre for people? Soz to gross people out

[Squidboy]

Ok, either you've been reading too much Poppy Z Brite or watched the Aliens series a lot lol!! IF Mariko is in W2 then she should die, but perhaps Daken birthed by caesarian...by Silver Samurai or Logan himself. His birth should be violent or affected by violence.

Is this too macabre for people? Soz to gross people out

I was thinking more in the fashion of the Dawn of the Dead remake or Bride of Chucky, where it's like "oh snap, this character's dead.." and then BAMALAM here comes the evil baby

[al35077]

I'd like to see a Wolverine and Daken fight. just to see Daken get his @$$ kicked

[sabetoonth]

Hmm Japan. Characters?...
Silver Samurai has to be a given
Mariko also a given
Yukio may be a given
Gambit must be a given
Matsuo Tsuryaba
Kwannon Psylocke (disregard the X3 Psylocke as someone with a bad dye job, trying to be all cool and up in it. Also no shadow slipping)
Sunfire
Indeterminate number of Hand ninja's
Lastly, if Mariko is in, then maybe be easter egg treated to a glimpse of baby Daken
the mother of Daken is Itsu, not Mariko

[Psykoelf]

the mother of Daken is Itsu, not Mariko

Yes, I came across that clarification the other night. My bad. But for a movie, don't think it matters much (adds a bit more drama too)

[katie_girl09]

Sabertooth was the best and most wasted part of XOW. I'd like to see him in a better role.
I actually liked his role in Wolverine. Any more than that and I would have felt like it was too repetitive. I thought Gambit was the character that was wasted.

[Squidboy]

I'd like to see Sabretooth and Gambit get something. Hopefully First Class will allow that, since it would definitely be overkill for both of those characters to return for Wolverine 2

[ALittlePush]

In what way would it be overkill for them both to appear in first class?

Does anyone think Wolverine 2 will be mentioned at Comic Con this year?

[sabetoonth]

Yes, I came across that clarification the other night. My bad. But for a movie, don't think it matters much (adds a bit more drama too)
NIEN NIEN NIEN NIEN!!

we must have as much comic accuracy as possible! :cmad:


:p

[Judge Holden]

Hmm Japan. Characters?...
Silver Samurai has to be a given
Mariko also a given
Yukio may be a given
Gambit must be a given
Matsuo Tsuryaba
Kwannon Psylocke (disregard the X3 Psylocke as someone with a bad dye job, trying to be all cool and up in it. Also no shadow slipping)
Sunfire
Indeterminate number of Hand ninja's
Lastly, if Mariko is in, then maybe be easter egg treated to a glimpse of baby Daken

Why? Haven't we learned from the first film? Pointless, fan-pandering and poorly executed cameos are a no-go.

[Squidboy]

In what way would it be overkill for them both to appear in first class?

Does anyone think Wolverine 2 will be mentioned at Comic Con this year?

Mainly because the writers would need to make up a reason for Wolverine to not remember either of them again - Victor moreso than Gambit, since we never see Gambit again in the series, and it wouldn't be out of the question that Logan did have some friends before meeting the X-Men. I say put one or both of them in First Class, since some people going to see the movie might get their Wolvie fix with those characters in it.

[Squidboy]

NIEN NIEN NIEN NIEN!!

we must have as much comic accuracy as possible! :cmad:


:p

I before E except after GERMAN.

[ALittlePush]

Mainly because the writers would need to make up a reason for Wolverine to not remember either of them again - Victor moreso than Gambit, since we never see Gambit again in the series, and it wouldn't be out of the question that Logan did have some friends before meeting the X-Men. I say put one or both of them in First Class, since some people going to see the movie might get their Wolvie fix with those characters in it.

Gambit could appear in Wolverine 2, as a face from Wolverine's forgotten past. Wolverine wasn't thinking straight at the end of XO:W and just ran off with only knowledge of his name. If he were to come across Gambit in Japan, I'm sure he would try to find out what else Gambit knows such as why he was on the island etc.

As for Victor Creed, the only way they could get him to appear without having to worry about Wolverine remembering him would be to say that the Sabretooth in X1 is a completely different character. Creed was never referred to as Sabretooth and vice versa. So theoretically, it could work, although some fans may kick up a stink over the fact that Sabretooth is supposed to be Victor Creed regardless of whether he was referred to as such. I just think that the Victor Creed we got in XO:W was a far superior character than the Sabretooth we got in X1 and it would be a shame not to see the character again.

[Hunter Rider]

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[JP]

Ok, how can Creed possibly be anywhere near a Wolverine sequel? :huh:

[Squidboy]

He'll be bringing a bunch of adamantium bullets

[danoyse]

I have no idea where he would fit in the Japan story (especially now Wolverine doesn't remember him)...but I would enjoy more Liev awesomeness if they found a way to do it.

[david icke]

Ok, how can Creed possibly be anywhere near a Wolverine sequel? :huh:

He shows up as Victor, telling Logan he is his brother, Logan does not believe him, they fight etc, Logan gets the better of him , nearly kills him.

Someone from the government gets ahold of Creed, and tells him they have a way of giving him the power to defeat Logan without having to fill him with adamantium.
Cut to the end of the movie(a scene not unlike Anakin's transformation into Vader at the end of Sith)..Creed goes through the experimental procedure, he comes out looking just like Tyler Mane did in X-Men, larger, stronger, big black eyes...and like Logan, he has also had his memory wiped during the procedure. He is given the code name 'Sabretooth' for the first time.

So when he runs into Logan in X-Men, he is physcially transformed beyond recognition, has a new name, Logan does not recognise him as the guy who claimed to be his brother...and Sabretooth only has a fleeting memory that passes by him when he grabs Logan's dogtags...just as Logan did when he encountered Stryker.

Will they do it that way? Probably not, we probably won't get anymore Creed in the Wolverine movies, but he was teh best part of XMOW, so who knows, maybe they will go that way.

[Schlosser85]

Liev Schreiber as Victor was the best thing about Wolverine, but I don't know where he would fit into Wolverine 2, as Wolverine obviously doesn't know Sabertooth when they fight in X-Men 1.

[JP]

He shows up as Victor, telling Logan he is his brother, Logan does not believe him, they fight etc, Logan gets the better of him , nearly kills him.

Someone from the government gets ahold of Creed, and tells him they have a way of giving him the power to defeat Logan without having to fill him with adamantium.
Cut to the end of the movie(a scene not unlike Anakin's transformation into Vader at the end of Sith)..Creed goes through the experimental procedure, he comes out looking just like Tyler Mane did in X-Men, larger, stronger, big black eyes...and like Logan, he has also had his memory wiped during the procedure. He is given the code name 'Sabretooth' for the first time.

So when he runs into Logan in X-Men, he is physcially transformed beyond recognition, has a new name, Logan does not recognise him as the guy who claimed to be his brother...and Sabretooth only has a fleeting memory that passes by him when he grabs Logan's dogtags...just as Logan did when he encountered Stryker.

Will they do it that way? Probably not, we probably won't get anymore Creed in the Wolverine movies, but he was teh best part of XMOW, so who knows, maybe they will go that way.

:down:(

[BigSams50]

I'd love to see Silver Samurai in this one

[sabetoonth]

He shows up as Victor, telling Logan he is his brother, Logan does not believe him, they fight etc, Logan gets the better of him , nearly kills him.

Someone from the government gets ahold of Creed, and tells him they have a way of giving him the power to defeat Logan without having to fill him with adamantium.
Cut to the end of the movie(a scene not unlike Anakin's transformation into Vader at the end of Sith)..Creed goes through the experimental procedure, he comes out looking just like Tyler Mane did in X-Men, larger, stronger, big black eyes...and like Logan, he has also had his memory wiped during the procedure. He is given the code name 'Sabretooth' for the first time.

So when he runs into Logan in X-Men, he is physcially transformed beyond recognition, has a new name, Logan does not recognise him as the guy who claimed to be his brother...and Sabretooth only has a fleeting memory that passes by him when he grabs Logan's dogtags...just as Logan did when he encountered Stryker.

Will they do it that way? Probably not, we probably won't get anymore Creed in the Wolverine movies, but he was teh best part of XMOW, so who knows, maybe they will go that way.
i like it

[david icke]

nvrmnd,...but thanks sabetoonth

[Hellion]

Deathstrike (or it was Deathstryke in X2 wasn't it?)

[Squidboy]

With her working for Stryker, I doubt they would use the Y. Though I never made that connection until just now, so maybe it was changed to reflect their connection

[WeaponXProject]

Ok, how can Creed possibly be anywhere near a Wolverine sequel? :huh:


He can't be in the film.

We need the Silver Samurai and the people from the dojo.

[david icke]

I wouldn't want Sabretooth to be part of the Japna film, but I wouldn't mind if we got him again in a 3rd movie, as long as the story was good. a. Because Liev Schrieber was great in the role, and b. Because I feel we have not had the great knock down drag out fight we should have got from Logan and Creed in a movie yet, all of their fights have been brief.
But, I am not bothered of he does not appear again, there are plenty of other characters to explore and he has been used in two movies already.

Ideally i would want Silver Samurai, Mariko, Sunfire, and possibly Gambit, in the Japan movie.

and a 3rd movie set in Madripoor with Jessan Hoen(The Tiger), Bloodsport, Roughhouse, Archie Corrigan, O'Donnell etc
Have Wolverine involved in the gang wars, and show a darker side to him, as he has lost his way while trying to find a new identity for himself.

[marvelrobbins]

I think Wolverine will be the only character from previous films In Wolverine 2.I expect
mariko,Shingen,and The Silver Samurai In Wolverine 2.

[WeaponXProject]

I think Wolverine will be the only character from previous films In Wolverine 2.I expect
mariko,Shingen,and The Silver Samurai In Wolverine 2.

I hope you're right.

As for someone else saying Wolverine 3 should have... I don't think there needs to be a Wolverine 3. He should head to Canada at the end. Wolverine, and I love the character, has had a lot of his story told whether done correctly or not. I don't see the need for a 3rd flick.

[TheLoneCreature]

I really think they should keep it simple this time. Just have Wolverine, Silver Sam., Shingen, Mariko and MAYBE Deathstrike. Because, as we all know, XMO:W was just full to the brim with Characters, one of the reasons it was worse than what we had all hoped, it should not happen again, only have about 2 villains and 1 or no allies. :wolverine

[Deaths Head II]

I don't want to see anyone that doesn't fit in smoothly with the Japan story even though I would like to see Gambit and Sabretooth again. The movie can't be overloaded like the first film was. I would like to see Deathstrike in this movie too, even though it does create contradictions in the story. But I think we're pretty far beyond that point in the franchise.

[Squidboy]

I would say that if you wanted Deathstrike in there, make her a small cameo (like Storm would've been in the first Wolverine), but unless it's an appearance worth remembering or worth having the character show up, I think it's just better off not happening.

[Diamondhead]

Black bolt ,the Inhuman
it would be a good way to introduce a new franchise as replacements for the 'x men'

[Hellion]

This might go with the who has the rights to who argument...but what about Viper? The Hand?

[javi1024]

well Fox does own X-men and Daredevil related characters, so technically they could use the Hand (who were in Elektra) if they wanted.

[chaseter]

I would think that their Daredevil license would be expired since they haven't made a movie since Elektra or they keep acting like they are writing a Daredevil sequel to keep the rights.

[Squidboy]

Throwing the Hand in there would be a good way to keep those rights, I think. Plus, if the stories are true about Fox wanting to make their own Marvel Universe with the properties they own (X-Men, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four), then this would be as good a way as any. Except these franchises would need to take place almost 20 years in the past to sync up with the Wolverine movies.

[Deaths Head II]

I don't know anything about the deals Fox made with Marvel but I don't see Fox making any reboot of films like Daredevil or Fantastic Four ever, so I assume as long as they pretend to be working on a film they can keep the rights. At least for a while.

[Deaths Head II]

I don't know anything about the deal with double posting either.

[TheLoneCreature]

A lot has been going on with the F4 reboot, there are already casting rumours from what I've heard. But I'm pretty sure it's going ahead :(

[Deaths Head II]

All I heard was that they got the guy who wrote Batman and Robin to oversee the project and one of the writers from Heroes to pen the script. I really don't buy them being serious about releasing that movie. At least not yet. And if they do release it I wouldn't be surprised if it was something along the lines of the Roger Cormen film. That was released just to keep the rights too.

[Squidboy]

If Evans hadn't moved onto Captain America, I would've said just bite the bullet and go onwards with a third film. Just learn from the mistakes and the criticism from the last two entries and fix them, because regardless of whether it's a sequel or a reboot, the movie will have trouble at the box office. Look at how The Incredible Hulk was affected by being made so soon after Ang Lee's Hulk as proof that the general audience won't know the difference between a reboot or a sequel - they'll just see it as another one of those Fantastic Four movies.

[Hellion]

well Fox does own X-men and Daredevil related characters, so technically they could use the Hand (who were in Elektra) if they wanted.


Sorry...I phrased it bad...I was talking more about Viper with the rights thing...

...as for the Hand...it could be a way for FOX to establish a Marvel Universe of there own......you also wouldn't need to use the characters from Elektra......maybe just a mention from Hand members......

[Deaths Head II]

If Evans hadn't moved onto Captain America, I would've said just bite the bullet and go onwards with a third film. Just learn from the mistakes and the criticism from the last two entries and fix them, because regardless of whether it's a sequel or a reboot, the movie will have trouble at the box office. Look at how The Incredible Hulk was affected by being made so soon after Ang Lee's Hulk as proof that the general audience won't know the difference between a reboot or a sequel - they'll just see it as another one of those Fantastic Four movies.

They probably decided to reboot so they can sit on it a lot longer. It's also a lot easier to tell Akiva Goldsman and some Heroes writer to sit on it a while versus the entire cast and crew of the previous films. Those two guys aren't going to be doing much else anyway.

[Squidboy]

I know it's not the same case, but Gillian Anderson would give interviews every now and then, pretty much saying that a new X-Files movie was happening and that she was waiting around for it to actually plop down in front of her. If people are really committed to a role or a franchise, they can wait for things to fall into place. Granted, the X-Files movie we got wasn't the best, but in the same way Fox is trying to keep the FF in their pocket, making that movie kept the franchise alive in the public eye, even if it wasn't in the most favorable light.

[Wolverine1988]

Id love to see Omega ReD in the movie or a future x men movie in general.

[sabetoonth]

I wouldn't want Sabretooth to be part of the Japna film, but I wouldn't mind if we got him again in a 3rd movie, as long as the story was good. a. Because Liev Schrieber was great in the role, and b. Because I feel we have not had the great knock down drag out fight we should have got from Logan and Creed in a movie yet, all of their fights have been brief.
But, I am not bothered of he does not appear again, there are plenty of other characters to explore and he has been used in two movies already.

Ideally i would want Silver Samurai, Mariko, Sunfire, and possibly Gambit, in the Japan movie.

and a 3rd movie set in Madripoor with Jessan Hoen(The Tiger), Bloodsport, Roughhouse, Archie Corrigan, O'Donnell etc
Have Wolverine involved in the gang wars, and show a darker side to him, as he has lost his way while trying to find a new identity for himself.
They could use Victor in a Madripoor movie, use Seraph, and have Victor kill her part way through it

[Neptune]

Gambit and Sabretooth.

[Wolverine1988]

Id like to see Yuriko/Deathstrike appear, but i doubt that happens

[spideyboy_1111]

-Sabretooth (id like to see him slowly going feral to line up with X1)

-Yuriko/Deathstrike (her death, while the 2 stared at eachother was almost as if they had seen each other in a prior life)

-Silver Samurai

-Sunfire

-Mystique

[Wolverine1988]

-Sabretooth (id like to see him slowly going feral to line up with X1)

-Yuriko/Deathstrike (her death, while the 2 stared at eachother was almost as if they had seen each other in a prior life)

-Silver Samurai

-Sunfire

-Mystique

Just curious. but why Mystique?

[spideyboy_1111]

Just curious. but why Mystique?

because there past history i find interesting. and the epic battle in the wolverine comic where mystique and wolverine fought in the desert was pretty amazing. Think she's one character that'd fit in very well.

[Squidboy]

Her being involved in First Class would make Mystique unlikely. Besides, some people still don't buy Sabretooth having known Logan prior to the first movie with no prior memory of it, so adding another one of Magneto's cronies into the mix might complicate things

[spideyboy_1111]

i think as is... it's quite obvious wolverine 2 might need another memory erase :(

[Squidboy]

Wolverine 2 should just start with a reveal that Jason Stryker made us all imagine the first movie, and then jump right into the real origins

[X-Maniac]

Get real people!

Unless there is a second memory wipe, Wolverine 2 can't feature Sabretooth or Deathstrike because he didn't know who they were when he met them in the later X-films.

Unless there is a second memory wipe, Wolverine 2 can't feature Gambit because Gambit would tell Wolverine about Stryker, and Wolverine didn't know Stryker in X2.

They could just about get away with adding Psylocke because the character had such a minor role in X3 and didn't directly encounter Wolverine.

But unless we want more memory wipes, any more Wolverine movies have to feature totally new characters.

[ALittlePush]

Unless there is a second memory wipe, Wolverine 2 can't feature Gambit because Gambit would tell Wolverine about Stryker, and Wolverine didn't know Stryker in X2.

In X2, Wolverine did sort of know Stryker. In the car after the mansion ambush, , when asked what that was, Wolverine replied "Stryker. His name is Stryker" (or something to that effect). When Rogue asked who Stryker was, Wolverine said "I can't remember" so he recognised Stryker but he didn't know Stryker if you know what I mean.

Gambit could quite easily appear. He may not have had that much to do with Stryker so anything he might tell Wolverine would be vague at best. He was the first to see amnesiac Wolverine so he might deliberately withhold information from Wolverine about what happened on the island. For all Gambit knows, Stryker could have very well been killed on the Island after Wolverine destroyed the towers. There are ways and means of Gambit being able to appear without Wolverine knowing Stryker or having to have his memory wiped for a second time.

[Squidboy]

I think Gambit is feasible, considering Logan's memories of him did start to come back after he was confronted by Stryker. He has a name out there, but he just needed the face to put it to. Plus, Gambit doesn't know 100% what the deal with Logan and Stryker was - he just knows they both were messed around with by him, and that Logan seems to have gotten the worst of it.

[Young Superman]

X-23

[Wolverine1988]

Didn't know Mystique and Wolverine hade past history besides the couple encounters they hade in the movies.....

[Squidboy]

I think they should leave her out of the Wolverine movies, especially since she's involved in First Class, and my fanboy brain doesn't need to play connect the dots to line up her time as Logan's nemesis, to when she was with Magneto, and all the things in between. Since he's now past the memory loss stage of his life, he really should not encounter anybody who he would definitely remember meeting prior to the trilogy. That means no more Sabretooth, no Xavier, no Deathstrike, and Stryker should stay as far away as possible, and keep his deus ex adamantium bullets to himself.

[Wolverine1988]

I think they should leave her out of the Wolverine movies, especially since she's involved in First Class, and my fanboy brain doesn't need to play connect the dots to line up her time as Logan's nemesis, to when she was with Magneto, and all the things in between. Since he's now past the memory loss stage of his life, he really should not encounter anybody who he would definitely remember meeting prior to the trilogy. That means no more Sabretooth, no Xavier, no Deathstrike, and Stryker should stay as far away as possible, and keep his deus ex adamantium bullets to himself.


But in x2 it is pretty obvious by the look on Logans face that def reconizes that face, or maybe it was a moment of remorse for killing her idk.

IDK i felt Singer throughout the whole triolgy hade a plan to do some sort of prequel so that he didn't want Wolverine to have the relationships with his enimies(Sabretooth,Deathstrike) because of his amnesia and he did use hints to say that Wolverine doesn't remember all the details and that he did plan on explaning it after the 3 movies, idk just a huntch i guess.

[Christopher_M]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2nbyc6a.jpg

- Silver Samurai
- Goro (Yukuza enforcer)
- The Hand
- Lady Deathstrike

Personally I think we can do without Sabertooth, Gambit or other previous X-Men characters....save them for Wolverine 3 when they'll be needed...

[anrrd_2]

I would like to see a non-linear story line moving between his forgotten past in japan and a new (post X3) adventure.

[Squidboy]

But in x2 it is pretty obvious by the look on Logans face that def reconizes that face, or maybe it was a moment of remorse for killing her idk.

I think it was the realization that he killed her just moments before she overcame the effects of Stryker's mind-control.

[X-Maniac]

But in x2 it is pretty obvious by the look on Logans face that def reconizes that face, or maybe it was a moment of remorse for killing her idk.

IDK i felt Singer throughout the whole triolgy hade a plan to do some sort of prequel so that he didn't want Wolverine to have the relationships with his enimies(Sabretooth,Deathstrike) because of his amnesia and he did use hints to say that Wolverine doesn't remember all the details and that he did plan on explaning it after the 3 movies, idk just a huntch i guess.

I think you are seeing things that aren't there.

In my view, Wolverine didn't recognise Deathstrike at all. She gave him a strange look as she died, but that could be read any number of ways.

If Singer left anything vague, then it was done on purpose so hardcore fans could have their own interpretations. He didn't specifically say Wolverine and Deathstrike had known each other, nor did he say they didn't. It's a clever way of not pissing off the nitpicky fanbase, by leaving both possibilities there.

But, in my opinion, the way Stryker said 'I thought you were one of a kind Wolverine. I was wrong' implies that Deathstrike came along later, after Wolverine had left Weapon X and gone his own way and that Logan hadn't met her before. That's the way I read the scene.

[Deaths Head II]

In the comics Deathstrike radically altered her appearance when she became Lady Deathstrike, but I don't know how they could pull that off in the films since she still looked normal in X2. Unless she gets messed up bad and gets plastic surgery along with the adamantium in Wolverine 2.

[Wolverine1988]

Id really like to see Omega Red, but since its in Japan that would be an odd choice to throw him in there

Than again Gambit and Blob were in the first one so you never know.

[Hypestyle]

Bring on Vanessa Hudgens, and have her play X-23..

she looks just like X-23, she could play her in a sequel, a female cloned from cells from Logan and a human scientist.. Wolverine could rescue her from the Weapon X science labs, mentor her..

[insane polaris]

Elektra.

Fox have the rights and her and Wolverine do have a past.

[Wolverine1988]

I liked how in the animated series they made Deathstrike and Wolverine past lovers, kind of adds a different dimension to it, the idea of your ex love becoming a psychotic woman that is a copy of you certinaly would add for an interesting storyline and make it more dramatic imo.

[slothbp]

Great Lakes Avengers! I'd love to see someone with a power as awful as Doorman in a movie. Or Strong Guy. He's always been one of my favorite members of X-Factor. I don't think he gets enough recognition.

[Hush]

I would like for the only character to be returning to be Wolverine.

[Emma Frost]

Wouldnt mind Gambit making another appearence, hopefully with a bit more screentime this time, and I wouldnt mind a cameo by Creed and Stryker either.

My cameo idea is this, could be an after credits scene, Creed is lying on a table in a lab, , Stryker says he has developed a mutant enhancer syrum, and this is the only way he cant get him close to Wolverine as Creed wouldnt survive the adamantium bonding process, Stryker injects it into him, and on the table we see Creed morph more into the Sabretooth from X1, Stryker asks him how he feels, Creed roars, hits Stryker, obviously not killing him, and jumps through the wall into the wilderness.

Would then tie it into X1 brilliantly.

I could actually see something like this happening

[Emma Frost]

Like many said, Silver Samurai and Mariko are probably sure things in this movie. Deathstrike's father could be a nice tie-in to X2. It feels like I remember him being involved in Weapon X or something. I'm not that well versed in all of Wolverine's origin. (pun intended)

Sunfire was also a good suggestion and his powers would be pretty cool onscreen. Wouldn't mind seeing Wolverine get crispy a bit then heal from it.

I wouldn't mind seeing some Hellfire Club hints and some Triad/Yakuza dealings in Japan. Could have Shinobi or Sebastian Shaw around.

[spideyboy_1111]

i like both ideas in the above 2 posts

[Slushy]

Will Yun Lee would make a great Silver Samurai!

[TheShah]

None.
Not even Wolverine.

No sequel. :|

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I could actually see something like this happening

Yeah, I just think it would be a great way to show how Creed ended up like he did in X1 without spending too much of the movie on it, in fact it would only be a scene a few minutes long and would tie things up nicely, maybe if FC is a success they could go into it more in FC 2 or 3.

[Wolverine1988]

That still doesn't explain why he didn't reconize Wolverine, i think you could easily just go with out the whole "lobotomy" like thing and just say that as he grew older he got more and more intouch with his animal side and eventually just losing most human qualties about him. What they need to do is somehow tie in the fact that he gets his memory swiped to or something

[sabetoonth]

Or by that point he simply didnt care about Logan anymore, though maybe him swiping the tags was some kind of clue that he remembered Logan

[Doc Ock]

None.
Not even Wolverine.

No sequel. :|

:( I don't like that idea.

[TheShah]

I'm sorry, that just how I feel.

Best Wolverine sequel = no Wolverine sequel.
If there was a way to dis-existify XO: WOLVERINE... I'd be down for that too.

:|

[Wolverine1988]

Or by that point he simply didnt care about Logan anymore, though maybe him swiping the tags was some kind of clue that he remembered Logan


Cuse the movie was rushed(They started filming in september of 99 and the movie was coming out in july) I think Singer didn't have time to focus on that since this was an origin movie of the x-men , the whole sabretooth-wolverine dynamic is something that requires alot of attention so instead of doing a half ass job he just decided to ignore it for now but make small hints to there realtionship. Because i think Sabreooth reconized Wolverine somewhat not just the dog tag scene ...

But remember when the x-men are in help up in the statue of liberty and are bound to it from magneto and Sabretooth is staring Wolverine down like he is trying to remember who he was.

IDK just an assumption/opinon, i get the feeling that Singer wanted to dwelve into the whole sabretooth/wolverine relationship in another movie.

[sabetoonth]

I was thinking strictly from the story point of view as to reasons, i havent seen the movie in long enough i dont remember him staring Logan own, have to watch it again

[BoredGuy]

I'm sorry, that just how I feel.

Best Wolverine sequel = no Wolverine sequel.
If there was a way to dis-existify XO: WOLVERINE... I'd be down for that too.

:|


"so instead i'll go into the Wolverine 2 thread and rain on everyone's parade"

If you're not interested, then why even bother bashing it??
go hang out in the X-men 1 forum

[venom892]

If were doing the Japan story I only want characters relevant to the Yashida Clan.Meaning Yukio,Mariko,Silver Samurai,Sunfire and Shingen.No one else is needed.

[Wolverine1988]

If were doing the Japan story I only want characters relevant to the Yashida Clan.Meaning Yukio,Mariko,Silver Samurai,Sunfire and Shingen.No one else is needed.

Agree, enough with the "Lets put in as many mutants as possible".

Keep it simple, no need to include other mutants who have not point in being in the film

[TheShah]

"so instead i'll go into the Wolverine 2 thread and rain on everyone's parade"

If you're not interested, then why even bother bashing it??
go hang out in the X-men 1 forum

lol, to be fair, I haven't really 'bashed' anything yet.
Just saying that I wouldn't want another Wolverine sequel, considering how the first one went.
If they make it, will I watch it? Of course!

Also, I don't get the common POV on this forum where there's a consensus that if you're not FOR the topic in the thread, you shouldn't post.
Why not?
Maybe the other posts will make me realize there might be ways to improve upon the film, maybe finding out about movie news will pique my interest... but regardless I don't have to be in love with the subject of the thread to be able to state my opinion, in a non-offensive/non-confrontational way.

[BoredGuy]

^No one said you can't state your opinion.
State it.

just something beyond "no sequel! last movie was teh suck!" would be appreciated.

[TheShah]

^ The last movie was pur suckage. Better? lol.

Well I just thought the last one suffered from the downfall of the typical big budget studio movie, where it was just treated as a cash cow, made more to get people INTO theaters than for any sort of long lasting storytelling purpose.

I won't nit pick, I'm not even a stickler for treating the source material like holy scripture if it's been adapted well... but just the over all cramming of cameos of Marvel characters without purpose, the character developement felt rushed and more inserted into scenes than allowed to properly impact the audience and so on...
It was an overall wreck in my opinion. I could've lived with less actions scenes and fewer characters for a movie done well.

I wonder how it would've gone if we saw a Wolverine Origin movie that followed the first Origins TPB, with very few 'super powered' characters, that was paced slower and more ominiously, suspensefully, more thematic than action based... ?
The more I think about it the more I can see that Origins book being a full ledged movie on it's own, with little adaptation of course.

[danoyse]

lol, to be fair, I haven't really 'bashed' anything yet.
Just saying that I wouldn't want another Wolverine sequel, considering how the first one went.
If they make it, will I watch it? Of course!

Also, I don't get the common POV on this forum where there's a consensus that if you're not FOR the topic in the thread, you shouldn't post.
Why not?
Maybe the other posts will make me realize there might be ways to improve upon the film, maybe finding out about movie news will pique my interest... but regardless I don't have to be in love with the subject of the thread to be able to state my opinion, in a non-offensive/non-confrontational way.


Yes, but the fact is...they are making a sequel.

And this thread is about what characters you would like to see in said sequel.

This isn't a "I hated Wolverine, so no sequel!" thread. We have other threads for that discussion.

As far as this thread, let's stay on topic, please.

[BoredGuy]

sooo yeah.


Silver Samurai!!

[Emma Frost]

I want to see some yakuza! Guns blaring, at least one bar brawl?

And some sword vs claw with Silver Samurai & Wolverine.

[Hellion]

If were doing the Japan story I only want characters relevant to the Yashida Clan.Meaning Yukio,Mariko,Silver Samurai,Sunfire and Shingen.No one else is needed.


This.

[Superhero 101]

Should wolverine get his ass handed to him by silver samurai?

[Wolverine1988]

Should wolverine get his ass handed to him by silver samurai?

It wouldn't be a true Wolverine movie if he DIDN'T , so yes he should get tossed around but like he always does he comes through in the end.

[Superhero 101]

If the leaked character list is real I hope they bring back Kelly hu so the film could have some continuity

[Wolverine1988]

But Wolverine doesn't reconize her in x2 unless he gets another memory swipe

[Wolverine1988]

and whatcharacter list? the one mentioned below this thread? i didnt see anythinga bout lady deathstrike

[BoredGuy]

yeah I think a lot of people are confusing Yukio(hot little asian badass that wolvie hooks up with time-to-time) for Yuriko(Lady Deathstrike)

[sabetoonth]

I know i used to

[Infinity9999x]

yeah I think a lot of people are confusing Yukio(hot little asian badass that wolvie hooks up with time-to-time) for Yuriko(Lady Deathstrike)

This. Yuriko isn't part of the Shingen/Mariko/Silver Samurai story.

[ashminator]

silver samurai defo!!!
viper either way not bothered
mariko defo!!!!
sabertooth slightly but done in this way:

has a cameo ala lieb shriver hunting down wolverine following wolvies trail but never catches up to him until the end

when he sees logan happy about to marry mariko and sucsessfully kills mariko

with absolute feral rage wolvine fights sabertooth and sucessfully impales his skull with his adamantium claws right through creeds skull and walks off leaving him for dead which obviously labotomizes him giving him memory loss and changes more bestial (in time?)

obviously this would mean wolvie needs another memory loss this could even be his own healing factor after going full feral added with the loss of his wife, obviously the macdonalds could have a cameothey find wolvie beast like and bring him back to sanity post credits

i know this dosnt fit continuity wise with the comics but with the films when have they ever?

[bullets]

I think Logan getting another mind-wipe would be the worst possible outcome

[AllyBabble]

obviously this would mean wolvie needs another memory loss this could even be his own healing factor after going full feral added with the loss of his wife, obviously the macdonalds could have a cameothey find wolvie beast like and bring him back to sanity post credits



Yeah, another mind wipe would be silly, if they want to use him again, all they have to do is show that Sabretooth/Creed either gets experimeted on by the governement or mutates further somehow to explain his change in appearance. therby explaining why Logan does not recognise him in X-Men, as long as he does not use the name Sabretooth in a solo movie as well.

So there is a leaked character list? I'll have to have a look at that, I lost my Claremont/Miller book about 15yrs ago and have not read it since, so do not recall all the characters featured that well.

[Retroman]

Would have loved to see Schreiber return as Creed/Sabretooth if they could have found a way to let the character serve the story. But by the sound of it there won't be any ties so we can forget that.Shame.:o

[tnr105]

If it's in Japan, Daken will most likely get a cameo. I know it won't happen due to legal reasons, but if they could get Sebastian Stan (Bucky from Captain America) to portray the Winter Soldier, it would be cool. In X2 we saw Stryker replaced Wolverine with Deathstrike, making her the puppet Wolvie refused to be. It would be interesting if he created X-23 to hunt down Wolverine.

[AllyBabble]

Would have loved to see Schreiber return as Creed/Sabretooth if they could have found a way to let the character serve the story. But by the sound of it there won't be any ties so we can forget that.Shame.:o

They are planning on doing 3 Wolverine solo movies though, he could return in the third one, and here is how...
folk did not like the fact that Logan volunteered for the adamantium bonding process in XMOW, as it took away the aspect of him being pissed off about what was done to him, and we sort of got that vibe in X-Men with the 'every time' conversation. So, in the third movie we could have Logan finding out about some mutant experimentation being done, and he goes to investigate in order to see if the process can be reversed somehow(as he is sick of going through life with customs hassles and walking around with random fridge magnets sticking to his clothes). That aspect of the character is taken care of partially there.
So he finds Victor there, being subjected to experiments to make him stronger and bigger(as he cannot get the adamantium process done and wants to track down Logan), so after a couple of these experimenst he is much stronger than Logan and can give him a better fight than he did at the end of XMOW.
And by the end of the movie he is subjected to the final experiment which makes him look just like the Sabretooth version we got in XM1. After once again being beaten by Logan he insists on more experiments to make him stronger, but is warned he is going to far and there could be side effects,... his memory is affected and his intelligence is somewhat blunted, making him more animalistic in nature, explaining why he does not recall Logan or speak much in XM1. Logan does not witness this final version of Creed, so does not recognise him in XM1.
You could also have Omega Red in the movie, and perhaps just set the thing in Russia, the Russians trying to build a mutant army during the last years of the Cold War, but it all goes wrong and a crapload of crazy mutants explode out of the city rampaging through the cities/villages, with Logan being the people's only defence.

edit: but then if i had the choice, I'd want another Wolverine movie that was entirely different from the previous two, ideally they set it in Madripoor and take elements from Marvel Comics Presents 1-10, and Wolverine vol.1 1-8

[tnr105]

Would have loved to see Schreiber return as Creed/Sabretooth if they could have found a way to let the character serve the story. But by the sound of it there won't be any ties so we can forget that.Shame.:o

Creed took take the Mutant Growth Hormone towards the end, that way we could have more of him, but also would explain why he became bestial in X-1 and why Logan didn't recognize him.

[AllyBabble]

Creed took take the Mutant Growth Hormone towards the end, that way we could have more of him, but also would explain why he became bestial in X-1 and why Logan didn't recognize him.

You'd also have to attribute memory loss to that hormone then, to explain why he doesn't talk to Logan on a personal level.
I always thought his memories were messed with too, but still had some remnants trying to break through, just like Logan did in X2 when he remembered Stryker's name and had some dreams/flashbacks to his adamantium experiment, just like when Sabretooth grabbed Logan's dogtags off Magneto's desk, like they were a reminder of his past.

[def28]

I would like to only see the characters that belong in this story from the comic but ...and I know most people will disagree strongly with me on this. I love me some Psylocke. I would have no problem if they put her in this movie with it involving Ninjas and all. She could fit in this movie.

[spideyboy_1111]

Pylocke could work... though id prefer they use "pre-psylocke" kwannon.

[def28]

She was an assassin in the hand from the start before all the crazy body/mind swapping right? Those two characters switch back and forth so much I would be cool with them taking liberties and mixing them together for Psylocke in a movie version. Unless they used her as a villain in that case I would prefer Kwannon. Having Deadpool as nothing but a villain to kill in Wolverine was a bad idea.