Official First Class News & Speculation Thread

[BMM]

Beast and Havok.

[Crockett]

Havok and Beast.

[The Wizard]

Thanks. I imagine that scene of the seven takes place on the grounds of the X-Mansion. The chess scene with Charles and Erik seems like it carries a bit of tension.

[xmanzo]

http://http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/marvin_223/x2.jpg

[xmanzo]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/marvin_223/x2.jpg

[BobJM]

Such a good day to be a comic book nerd, but I absolutely love those images and that poster....it's all so good.

I even loved the badly photoshopped picture that was leaked. I love it all! It seems like it's going to be a good time to be an X-Men fan again

[xmanzo]

http://http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/marvin_223/x2.jpg

[xmanzo]

i did not like the first one so i edited mystiques skin color and eyes.....http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/marvin_223/x2.jpg

[BobJM]

there's a manip thread you could be posting these pictures in, just for future reference

[xmanzo]

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/marvin_223/xmenv.jpg

[JP]

There's a manips thread. Ugh.

[Matt Mortem]

Now this is how you ****ing do it! All fears are put aside. Love the pics, ****ing love them!!! And the poster is WOW. Can't wait to see more!!!

[xmanzo]

sorry jp just a little dissapointed....

[storyteller]

So from what I can gather, Mystique will be more in a human disguise probably until Magneto convinces her she shouldn't have to. Beast will go from human to .......blue. I'm not too concerned with the hair loss for Charles. Its not exactly something you can ignore but the movie verse has never established when he naturally lost his hair(nor when he wound up in a wheelchair). I mean Xavier in the movie verse could just shave his head.

[Superhero 101]

The new pix are amazing i love the Kevin Bacon one and the one where James and Michael are playing chess looks nice so far better than that god awful costume one

[hugekent]

Well this is interesting. The reaction on these forums to the pics are the complete opposite to what I've come across on other forums.

[JP]

Let's get things back to normal...


http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/x-men-first-class-cast.jpg?w=600&h=376
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/james-mcavoy-and-michael-fassbinder-x-men-first-class.jpg?w=600&h=400
http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kevin-bacon-and-january-jones-xmen-first-class1.jpg?w=600&h=400
POSTER

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/388/original/First_Class.jpg?1295486508

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48147

:up:

[Sawyer]

That poster is gorgeous.

[Crockett]

^:up:

That pic with Sebastian and Emma looks like an interview. :p

[Sawyer]

Or he's trying to talk her into an early morning bang. And really, who can blame him?

[JP]

Reminds me of these:
http://s4.cinema.com/image_lib/3603_poster.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/2003/posters/x_men_two_ver1.jpg

[Sawyer]

I almost wish Fox would just stick to doing these types of posters. Instead of the sloppily photoshopped crap they always do...

[Crockett]

Vaughn is really confident about this movie.
“Captain America: The First Avenger,” “Green Lantern” and ”Thor” – Vaughn said that, if anything, it’s the other guys who should be nervous. “With ‘Green Lantern,’ I don’t know about that one, I couldn’t get my head around the trailer, to be honest … look, I will say the following: X-Men as a brand is bigger than Captain America, Thor and the Green Lantern, all put together.”
Well it's true if it's for the GA, plus they already have three (Wolverine doesn't count :p) X-Men films out.

[Sawyer]

There's a fine line between confident and cocky.

[Doc Ock]

That poster is gorgeous.

Yes it is, it makes my eyes water!

[Snikt]

There's a fine line between confident and cocky.

I'm hoping what Vaughn meant is that X-Men already has a built-in fanbase for the films and comics.

The other Marvel films have a built-in fanbase too, but it's the first run for CA, GL and Thor, in what will hopefully become successful franchises for all three films.

Because as of right now, Marvel has three very successful franchises based on their comics. #1 - Spider-Man #2 Iron Man and #3 X-Men.

[rashad]

Vaughn is famous for firebrand candor and droll wit, and despite the hand-wringing right now among some Fox executives, the British filmmaker isn’t turning meek under the pressure. Asked if he’s concerned about the glut of superhero film competition this summer — with “Captain America: The First Avenger,” “Green Lantern” and ”Thor” – Vaughn said that, if anything, it’s the other guys who should be nervous. “With ‘Green Lantern,’ I don’t know about that one, I couldn’t get my head around the trailer, to be honest … look, I will say the following: X-Men as a brand is bigger than Captain America, Thor and the Green Lantern, all put together.”

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/01/19/x-menfirst-class-three-exclusive-photos-and-a-report-from-the-stressed-out-set/

[PreK]

He's failing to account for the vast mistrust that is also associated with said brand name as a result of the last 2 franchise films.

[Sawyer]

Mistrust among fanboys, maybe. They still made a buttload of cash. The General audience could give a **** if they butcher a character/storyline. They love them some action.

[WildcatNC]

Why?



It was a convenience thing for me at first. After I did it I like how it looked. Not everyone looks good bald but I did and its very low maintenance.

I have been in martial arts all my life and hair is a liability when fighting. It also hadn't got common yet at the time so it was different.

Not to mention the ladies thought it was sexy. :cool:

So it was several things.

[blksuperman2]

Just saw a pic of Emma Frost and had to join this thread. :wow:

[Project862006]

Mistrust among fanboys, maybe. They still made a buttload of cash. The General audience could give a **** if they butcher a character/storyline. They love them some action.
THIS i know several people who are non fanboys who love X3 the most due to it's epic spectacle

and vaughn is telling the truth X Men is a bigger brand than those other 3 movies

it's like comparing spiderman to iron man of who is bigger

[JP]

Well, Spider-Man is bigger. People love Iron-Man, but people go just about ape-**** over Spidey.

And Vaughn is true in his statement. As a brand name, X-Men is 10x bigger than the other three superhero films released this summer. They're just not in the general consciousness the way X-Men is. It's a billion dollar movie franchise with an insanely successful animated series throughout the 90's. The others are simple unproven, but can easily reach X-Men, Spider-Man, and Batman statuses in the next few years.

[WildcatNC]

Just saw a pic of Emma Frost and had to join this thread. :wow:

:woot:


Call me strange but think Moria is the best looking one. Something about her.


I admit that the pics look better than I thought they would. I actually LIKE the 60's retro looks so far. I wasn't sure if they would pull it off.

Kevin Bacon is pimpin' hard. :hehe:

[Figs]

I like the poster quite a bit.

It's great that they are starting to give us some pics for this film. Can't wait for the trailer.

[blksuperman2]

:woot:


Call me strange but think Moria is the best looking one. Something about her.


I admit that the pics look better than I thought they would. I actually LIKE the 60's retro looks so far. I wasn't sure if they would pull it off.

Kevin Bacon is pimpin' hard. :hehe:


Yeah, Rose Byrne is hot too. I've been a fan of hers since the movie Troy.

[JP]

Superbowl spots:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/114038-which-movies-will-have-super-bowl-spots

No First Class listed, yet. .

[Crockett]

I hope they consider putting one, it's not too late but if not then I guess they are confident that the movie will do good.

[Project862006]

^ well the AICN article with the x men poster said Singer told Harry at AICN that there is several effects shots that need to be done

Bryan tells me that he's seen a mock up for the trailer, but they've still got a ton of visual effects shots left to slug into the thing.

[Crockett]

Yeah, then I guess it makes sense if they are sitting out.

[Ipodman]

Cool new photos... Altho I might take some time getting used to the "new" characters...

[JP]

I'd imagine we'd possibly get the full trailer in the next two weeks. Right before the Superbowl.

[Great Mind(s)]

How long do you guys think the movie will be? Anything less than about two hours is sure to be a rushed, lack of any development type crap. But I have hopes for this.

[Ipodman]

The longer the better... I've a feeling we might not be getting another X-Men movie from Matthew Vaughn

[Drz]

There's a fine line between confident and cocky.


I'd say he's being confident than cocky. He has a good track record with doing things fast and can turn things magically with even the smallest budgets. I'd say we just need alot better promotion, but overall perhaps these mediocore promotions are good enough for the general public, but i honestly do want this movie to succeed and give a rebirth to the franchise.

[Crockett]

How long do you guys think the movie will be? Anything less than about two hours is sure to be a rushed, lack of any development type crap. But I have hopes for this.

If the runtime is similar to X2, which was around 2hr and 10 minutes is fine by me.

[xmanzo]

it should be near 3hrs...its an origin or something movie right?

[Ipodman]

It's a .... prequel?

2 Hours should be enough... There's seems to be lesser characters in this movie anyway...

[Crockett]

And there's no way a comicbook movie will be 3hr long, sure most comicbook movie has enough material to cover for 3hr but there's no way studios will release a comicbook movie that runs that long, at least not now.

[louiebling$]

Superbowl spots:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/114038-which-movies-will-have-super-bowl-spots

No First Class listed, yet. .
Cap:cap: :awesome::awesome:

[JP]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640-550x366.jpg


And Vaughn on the leaked photo:
“I freaked out on them yesterday. I don’t know where the hell that came from. I don’t think it’s a Fox image. It’s not a pre-approved image. When I found out, I said, what the **** is this ****, and Fox is running around trying to figure out what happened as well. I agree. It’s like a bad photoshop, which maybe it was by someone. It didn’t reflect the movie. I was shocked when I saw it. I was like ‘Jesus Christ’…

More from Vaughn here!
http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/

[BMM]

Thanks! It's good to hear from Vaughn and his reaction to the photo released the other day. As for the helmet, something doesn't look quite right. It almost looks like concept art. I'm liking the design, though.

[Rac]

There's bigger versions of those photos in the slashfilm link.

[BMM]

Yep! Here are the links.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640.jpg

[louiebling$]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640-550x366.jpg


And Vaughn on the leaked photo:


More from Vaughn here!
http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/
:awesome:

Now Thats a Magneto Helmet :up:

What's off is the color.. other then that its GREAT :up:

[Crockett]

Cool, another two pics, excellent and I like what Vaughn has to says about the movie, I have faith in him.

The helmet looks...weird in a way though.

[craigdbfan]

Magneto looks awesome!

http://evolution.eracerx.com/wallpaper/thumbs/dayofreckoning1_magneto2_133.jpg

[J.Howlett]

I honestly wouldn't worry guys. After Kick-Ass, Vaughn's the least of this film's problems.

I only problem I see is the schedule but Vaughn seems determined to prove something. You can read between the lines in the article at slashfilm. He wants X-Men back on track. I think that's the consensus between him, Singer, and Donner....especially Donner.

She's been the gatekeeper and she's screwed up the last two times. Her bringing Singer back was a major step in the right direction. Vaughn was the other...

[Project862006]

great pics i think magneto looks weird to me because i am used to him in his own get up and not yellow

the buckles do feel weird tho lol

[xmanzo]

OK!..The genie's out of the lamp,,,,,,people are very negative about it(the pictures),,,,who knows it will grant your 3 wishes(the movie itself) duhh....for sure all of you will still see this movie....like it or not...

[kieron39]

so according to the vaughn interview http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/ it does look like hes trying to forget about X3 when it comes to continuity, and the fact they killed off Xaviar.... or did i read it wrong?

[xmanzo]

no!,he respects the 3logy and the comics.....

[J.Howlett]

We really won't know that until we see the film but having Rose Byrne play the character she's playing almost points to the notion that they are forgetting the Last Stand...even if he isn't saying it.

[Seen]

Magneto looks perfect. Also, that teaser poster is badass. What a great homage to the first teaser image from the first film.

[BobJM]

i like the pseudo-Magneto in the new image. He's one of the good guys but that early version of his helmet is just an awesome reminder of his eventual departure

[Excelsior.]

I always thought this would be the best superhero flick this summer. All the other ones look so "formulaic".

[Downhere]

Love the Magneto pic, finally, some good images.

[Hunter Rider]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg



The best image so far. :up:

[Mako]

The helmet design is awesome, but damn it's huge.

[thewhyteman]

Yeah it looks like his helmet is bouncing around on his head.
Great picture though.

So much better then that first POS they released.

[thewhyteman]

I do very much enjoy how they are paying homage to the old school blue/black and yellow suits. Thats pretty win.

[chaseter]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640-550x366.jpg


And Vaughn on the leaked photo:


More from Vaughn here!
http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/

This is why I love Vaughn...back to 100% ready for this movie:awesome:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This is pure speculation on my part so I thought I would put it in here, but does anyone else get the feeling that Magneto makes his helmet in this movie to stop Emma Frost getting into his head rather than Xavier?

[Superhero 101]

The helmet looks cool but looks to big for Fassebender's Head it should have been a little smaller

[thewhyteman]

This is pure speculation on my part so I thought I would put it in here, but does anyone else get the feeling that Magneto makes his helmet in this movie to stop Emma Frost getting into his head rather than Xavier?

Good speculation. On the other hand, its the 60's and that just might be a swinging costume. Ladies love a guy with a big round helmet.

[The Guard]

Other than him bailing on X3, I like Vaughn. LAYER CAKE was fantastic, STARDUST was ok...KICK ASS was a lot of fun. None of those are X-MEN.

I do feel he tends to stretch the truth a bit. He stated earlier that the leaked picture of the costumes did not reflect the film, when other than the lighting, it clearly does, regardless of when and how long they wear them. Not sure about his comments on GREEN LANTERN.

Magneto's helmet looks a bit much. Not that its too big, as I think its just the right size in general. But the more ornate design elements of it are a tad too "thick" and brash compared to McKellan's, which was nice and sleek. Still, nice to see the classic helmet show up, though he does look a bit silly wearing that and the X-Suit. Hopefully we'll see something where he has a trenchcoat, the "Magneto trademark sweater", and the helmet. I wonder if the helmet might not be a Nazi artifact or something similar.

This "Let's forget such and such film" annoys me. Make it work, even if you have to put Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in a flash forward and have him crippled years later. Bah.

[Marvin]

When Mckellan first came out(huh) with his pea sized(oh) helmet the response was extremely negative. This new helmet seems like a fanboy dream. I like how just with Kick Ass Vaughn really does strive for costume accuracy.

[thewhyteman]

I just read that interview with Vaughn. His reactions to the leaked photo is great.

[BobJM]

lol i like that the helmet is kind of big. it seems like more of a work in progress. as years go on, magneto streamlines the designto the one we see in the original trilogy

[Crockett]

I'm not complaining, the helmet looks great but something about it looks off, maybe on how it is positioned on Erik's head in that particular pic, I'm sure it looks fine when there's more pics with the helmet.

[Rac]

Other than him bailing on X3, I like Vaughn.
He knew it was doomed to suck, and didn't want his name associated with it. Fox was probably just fine with, because they got a yes-man to do it.

[thewhyteman]

I'm not complaining, the helmet looks great but something about it looks off, maybe on how it is positioned on Erik's head in that particular pic, I'm sure it looks fine when there's more pics with the helmet.

Yeah having his arm raised up is making his helmet shift off center of his face. It will be pretty awesome looking on film I am sure.

[batsfan81]

Vaughn is crazy if he thinks were gonna believe that first image wasn't released by Fox. Then if you might not like the costumes he says "they're not in it much". I honestly like what I see but he's just saying whatever he thinks will appease the fans.

[JP]

I think the helmet will look better when he's in the final red/purple suit Fassbender was talking about. Also, when its on film and is made to look more like metal, and less like plastic. But I see the potential it has, and can't wait to see footage. :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Good speculation. On the other hand, its the 60's and that just might be a swinging costume. Ladies love a guy with a big round helmet.

I doubt he'd wear the helmet to look stylish, especially while wearing the X-Suit and being in action, its definately to block a telepath, but I think its Emma rather than Charles at that point.

[thewhyteman]

I doubt he'd wear the helmet to look stylish, especially while wearing the X-Suit and being in action, its definately to block a telepath, but I think its Emma rather than Charles at that point.

Im seriously going to stop trying to show any humor on these boards. But yes I agree with you its probably for Emma.

[DarthSkywalker]

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the helmet not exist at this point in the timeline? Charles was certainly surprised about it in the first film and Erik made it seems like something he came up for specifically for his showdown with Charles.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Im seriously going to stop trying to show any humor on these boards. But yes I agree with you its probably for Emma.

Ha ha fair enough, humour doesnt translate well on a message board, I learned that years ago!

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the helmet not exist at this point in the timeline? Charles was certainly surprised about it in the first film and Erik made it seems like something he came up for specifically for his showdown with Charles.

Charles wasnt surprised by the helmet at all in X1, he explained to Wolverine when he asked him about using Cerebro to find Magneto:

"He seems to have found some way to shield himself from it........because he helped me build it."

[BoredGuy]

The helmet doesn't look too big to me.
His head is just turned, throwing off the center from the center of his face.

[JP]

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the helmet not exist at this point in the timeline? Charles was certainly surprised about it in the first film and Erik made it seems like something he came up for specifically for his showdown with Charles.

Wolverine: "So why not use it to find Magneto?"

Charles: "...his helmet was somehow designed to block my telepathy."

I don't think he's surprised. He's just telling Wolverine, and the audience, what's up.

[DarthSkywalker]

Ha ha fair enough, humour doesnt translate well on a message board, I learned that years ago!



Charles wasnt surprised by the helmet at all in X1, he explained to Wolverine when he asked him about using Cerebro to find Magneto:

"He seems to have found some way to shield himself from it........because he helped me build it."

He knew he was being blocked out. I am pretty sure he had no idea the helmet existed. His words to Logan emphasis he isn't sure what Erik is using. Doesn't Erik tap it and make a show of its existence?

[Matt Mortem]

Awesome! They've opened the flood gates of promo pics. Can't wait to get a trailer

[thewhyteman]

When is the movie coming out?

[JP]

June 3, 2011

[The Wizard]

Someone link me to the interview where Fassbenders mentions his "final red/purple suit?"

[thewhyteman]

Nice! Hope it plays out more like xmen 2

[Artistsean]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg


This image gives bring my hopes up a little for this film. Maybe it will focus primarily on Xavier, showing him to be a great leader, and focus primarily on Xavier's friendship with Magneto. Showing how they were good friends, with the best intentions and a common goal but somewhere down the line their goals changed. Hopefully we will see Magneto being aggressive and angry, glimpses into the villain he will become.
I like seeing Xavier and Magneto, before they became enemies and before Xavier was in a wheel chair. So we get to see them in action together.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/xaviermagneto.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/uncannyxmen161-20a.jpg

Too bad he doesn't have gray or white hair in this movie. Magneto went gray early because of his powers.

[Crockett]

Someone link me to the interview where Fassbenders mentions his "final red/purple suit?"

From the msn interview with Fassbender.
http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=623079
As for our costumes, we went back and forth on so many things. We added things that worked in the comics, took them away again, and stripped them down again. ... When it came to the Magneto suit, you know, there's various stages of what has been done with it, but you will have something that is traditional to the comics. There is a helmet (laughs), which is of course essential to keep Charlie-boy out of my head, and the colors are also kept traditional to the comics, that sort of red and purple. I don't know if I'm giving you too much, but I'll say it anyway (laughs).

[Loganbabe]

"Charlie-boy" is all kinds of cute, lol! :D
I think that James and Michael scenes together will be amazing. I hope they give some interviews together, it seems both share the same sense of humour.

[Donut]

I'd imagine we'd possibly get the full trailer in the next two weeks. Right before the Superbowl.

There will be no TV Spot during the Superbowl according to The Hollywood Reporter

It looks like Warner Bros. Pictureshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73396#) and 20th Century Fox may be sitting it out again, though one would think that Fox is still considering airing the first X-Men: First Class (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=50645) footage during the game

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/studios-set-super-bowl-ads-73548

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73396

[psyonic]

This is pure speculation on my part so I thought I would put it in here, but does anyone else get the feeling that Magneto makes his helmet in this movie to stop Emma Frost getting into his head rather than Xavier?

Wouldn't the whole team be wearing helmets then?

[KenK]

I'm sold on the visual aesthetic for the most part, but I'm still cautiously optimistic. I think this film will live or die based on how the relationship between Charles and Erik is portrayed. Once you nail that, I think you can get away with a number of liberties taken with the overall origins of the X-Men in general and specific characters. (I still don't see how including Azazel makes any sense whatsoever!)

[Crockett]

Once you nail that, I think you can get away with a number of liberties taken with the overall origins of the X-Men in general and specific characters. (I still don't see how including Azazel makes any sense whatsoever!)

They want to make the connection between him and Mystique's relationship which lead eventually to Nightcrawler.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Loving Magento.

[The Guard]

He knew it was doomed to suck, and didn't want his name associated with it. Fox was probably just fine with, because they got a yes-man to do it.

I just don't think it's real "stand up" to make up a story about family problems causing you to abandon a project you helped develop, which then sucks.

Not that I think The Last Stand was that bad.

[JP]

It was the PC answer. He wasn't going to say "This movie is doomed, so I'm gone...", and I doubt Fox would have let him say something like that without consequences.

[Robin91939]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg


Looks like the moment Magneto goes rogue....

I guess his final appearance, he'll emerge as a villain (to the X-men, but a symbol for mutant dominance) in his traditional red and purple...

I'm really diggin the looks and very excited.

-R

[Great Mind(s)]

I bet you Mystique will be pregnant and give birth to Nightcrawler, possibly putting him in a basket down a river like in the cartoon.

[KenK]

They want to make the connection between him and Mystique's relationship which lead eventually to Nightcrawler.

But in the context of the film universe, it's remarkably inconsequential. There is zero payoff to the general audience to retroactively establish Mystique as Nightcrawler's mother. It's not going to be explored to any real significant degree, especially if Nightcrawler isn't even in the film. If you're not going to do more than a quick nod to say, "Oh yeah, these two characters are Nightcrawler's parents!" it's pointless. Especially for the general audience for whom Nightcrawler is merely a guest star in one of the three previous X-Men films.

And it doesn't hold any value for fans, because Azazel is one of the most hated, most poorly conceived AND executed characters to ever be introduced in the X-Men mythos.

[Phoenix_Flare]

They want to make the connection between him and Mystique's relationship which lead eventually to Nightcrawler.

or they could possibly ignore the fact they are his parents, just like they ignored Xavier & Juggernaut being step bro's. Personally I don't think it's enough time to focus on familial aspect of these characters unless it serves the over all plot or used as character development. I can't help but to go back to X1 when Mystique was around Rogue & they never addressed their relationship. IMO Mystique was kind of wasted in X1 and that could've been the perfect way to give Mystique more characterization and Rogue, which would have served the plot of the movie, mutants sacrificing mutants/family to achieve a goal. I digress, its possibly Azazel is a henchman for Shaw(how Toad/Sabretooth was in X1) & only will battle w/Mystique or won't interact w/her @ all.

[Great Mind(s)]

Who says we're not seeing baby Nightcrawler? An infant baby being cast is not going to make headlines of casting updates for the movie. Hell it could be CGI.

[Great Mind(s)]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/32547/704186-nightcrawler_baby_super.jpgyou don't think this could make for a good scene toward the end of the film? Mystique could join Magneto and embrace her mutant-ness but still have a complex feeling for her kid. She doesn't want him to be raised by Magneto or his actual father in the growing hateful world.

[Phoenix_Flare]

and I just realized that Mystique herself is a mystery, it could be a possibility that she met Azazel when she was younger, had relations, and gave up Kurt,because she couldn't take care of him or she didn't want him to live a life like she had to endure. Their a lot of possibilties its a question on whether or not the writers/Singer decided to include those aspects.

[Angamb]

I think the birth of the son of Mystique shoud be keept for the sequel.

too many changes for her character in the same movie, I think.

[squeekness]

Those new pictures look great! :D

[Great Mind(s)]

Personally I think the birth of Nightcrawler would be a perfect end to the movie. With people believing he's a demon baby or something.

[steintym]

Love the updated look for Magneto. THAT looks like his helmet.

[Majik1387]

This and the Spidey Reboot are my most anticipated comic films in a long time.:hrt:
Like I am excited for Cap and Thor, and was really excited for TDKR, but then they go and name Bane as a villain.:csad:

But this and Spidey look like the comic films I'd like more and more of.:atp:

[FilmNerdJamie]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-x-men-first-class-the-plot-thickens-12317

[Majik1387]

God, it's not lying.
The group picture is real from the studio, but Fox's response was that it wasn't approved, aka it's unofficial/leaked.
Vaughn probably doesn't pay attention to Fox's promo advertising so he simply mistook it for bad photoshop.

[Project862006]

sounds like pure gossip, i am hearing lol

[Majik1387]

I expect better from Latino Review.:o

[Majik1387]

Oh and looks like that article was taken down fast.:o

[Crockett]

So Latinoreview goes ahead and make that kind of claim and have no evidence to support it. :nono:

[Electrix]

Sounds bull to me.

Majik I can still see the article?

[Majik1387]

Weird, Latino Review is just freezing up totally for me. Even the main page.

[c-saw]

Sounds bull to me.

Majik I can still see the article?


Weird, Latino Review is just freezing up totally for me. Even the main page.

here's the article:

"Yo!

Mayimbe here!

Apparently, Matthew Vaughn got put on blast this morning for straight up LYING to Slashfilm (http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/) about that so called leaked FOX picture. Check that out HERE (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/114051-vaughn-says-x-men-first-class-promo-image-was-not-approved) on Superhero Hype.

BUSTED!

Funny stuff.

But check this out...

You know what I'm hearing?

The movie is still shooting in LA while Vaughn is somewhere else editing.

They're shooting at the Culver City Studios for the next couple of weeks. The official story is that they're just shooting pick ups but the reality is...

...that hot mess of a film has not been coming together. Vaughn and company ran from location to location but never got the right stuff, or stuff that worked.

That's what's happening right now - while he's cutting the film somebody else is shooting literally six weeks - almost a whole film - worth of stuff.

Ouch!

Again, expect massive denials saying that they're doing pick ups that they missed because of delays on set and cast availability.

As this morning proved, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Hasta el proximo capitulo..."

[Doc Ock]

The best image so far. :up:

I might agree with that, it is soooo awesome!

[Matt Mortem]

I'm ignoring that Latino Review article

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm ignoring that Latino Review article

Why? Because it does not read the way you want it to?

[Project862006]

no because it comes across as some gossip article saying oh i told you so lol its very brash and cocky

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Wouldn't the whole team be wearing helmets then?

I doubt the rest of the team are even a quarter as powerful as Magneto, so he would be the main threat the HFC, him and Charles at least, and who knows, maybe Emma and Mag's have a history and this is why she keeps trying to control him.

[Majik1387]

Thanks for the article, but I read and actually posted the exact same comment I posted here. And LR is still not working for me for some reason.:huh:

[DarthSkywalker]

no because it comes across as some gossip article saying oh i told you so lol its very brash and cocky

But does that make it untrue?

[Figs]

I don't buy that article at all. Saying that they're still filming enough footage for an entire film, load of BS.

[c-saw]

Why? Because it does not read the way you want it to?

Or because there's no piece of evidence to support his claim. Hmmm....

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't buy that article at all. Saying that they're still filming enough footage for an entire film, load of BS.

That isn't what the article says. What it says is that 6 weeks worth of filming is long enough to shoot an entire film. Of course that doesn't apply to a film this effects heavy.

Or because there's no piece of evidence to support his claim. Hmmm....

What would you want in terms of evidence?

I see no reason for the writer to lie and is simply reporting what they have heard. Which by the way makes sense considering what happened with the last two X-Men films. Both of which were rushed and terrible.

[Project862006]

^ x1 and x2's production were rushed too buddy

[c-saw]

What would you want in terms of evidence?


ANYTHING. Which beats what the author has got so far: NOTHING.

A vague description of the source would be a start (a friend of a friend who works on the set, Elvis' ghost, anything)



I see no reason for the writer to lie

Get a ****load of hits on the site? Sure as hell sounds like a good enough reason

[DarthSkywalker]

^ x1 and x2's production were rushed too buddy

Which doesn't help anyone's argument but the writer of the article.

By the way, I am a big fan of X-Men and X2. It has become pretty obvious that Singer had to fight tooth and nail to get both done, and neither reached anywhere near their full potential. Which is sad, because X2 is a good, good film, that could of been great.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Why? Because it does not read the way you want it to?

Bingo.

[BMM]

That isn't what the article says. What it says is that 6 weeks worth of filming is long enough to shoot an entire film. Of course that doesn't apply to a film this effects heavy.

You're not arguing anything different here.


What would you want in terms of evidence?

Oh, I don't know. Evidence that cast and crew are shooting for six weeks rather than the whole two the author of the "article" offers as proof. Of course, none of this really matters. I don't care if they're shooting for another 8 weeks, as long as it comes together well.

[Seen]

If someone else is shooting 6 weeks of material, who is directing? The article states that Vaughn is elsewhere editing, yet Hero Complex was on set during the re-shoots with Vaughn obviously present. Who is overseeing these re-shoots?

It can't be Singer, because he's gearing up Jack the Giant Killer to shoot in March for Warner Bros. The article doesn't list any person that is actually managing these re-shoots, which is a big question mark over the authenticity for the entire article.

Bottom line? I don't buy it.

[Project862006]

1st reason article is BS is they say someone else is filming the movie lol

la times article clearly said vaughn was on set filming

[DarthSkywalker]

ANYTHING. Which beats what the author has got so far: NOTHING.

A vague description of the source would be a start (a friend of a friend who works on the set, Elvis' ghost, anything)



Get a ****load of hits on the site? Sure as hell sounds like a good enough reason

Is there anything in the production history of X-Men films that gives you any reason to believe this article is an outright lie?

[Seen]

1st reason article is BS is they say someone else is filming the movie lol

la times article clearly said vaughn was on set filming

Exactly.

[DarthSkywalker]

1st reason article is BS is they say someone else is filming the movie lol

la times article clearly said vaughn was on set filming

Being on set one day does not mean you are there for all of the filming. Also, who knows how many units are filming.

And possibly more importantly, if these are pick ups, why is Vaughn there? Who shoots weeks worth of pickups five months before the release of the film?

[Downhere]

1st reason article is BS is they say someone else is filming the movie lol

la times article clearly said vaughn was on set filming

Exactly, they said he was on set filming which means Latino Review has to be wrong. Sounds like they just want to cast a bad light on the film because of Fox's history with the X-Men. I wouldn't get all worried about it just yet.

[c-saw]

Is there anything in the production history of X-Men films that gives you any reason to believe this article is an outright lie?

I don't care about the previous movies that much, I care about the current one and until the claim in the article is supported by some proof (far from solid ... just ... not completely absent) I'll label this as BS.

[Project862006]

Being on set one day does not mean you are there for all of the filming. Also, who knows how many units are filming.

And possibly more importantly, if these are pick ups, why is Vaughn there? Who shoots weeks worth of pickups five months before the release of the film?

oh yes i am sure latinoreview.com is the more reliable source than the LA Times:dry:

[X-Maniac]

Who cares anyway?

All films have 'troubles'. Such challenges/problems are part and parcel of a multi-million dollar investment. Reshoots are common, as are scenes shot by assistant directors.

It's the quality of (and my enjoyment of) the finished product I care about.

I'm sure they are facing time pressures but that's Fox's fault for not allowing more time between production and release. They're notorious for this and should have learned by now to allow more time.

[DarthSkywalker]

You're not arguing anything different here.

Clint Eastwood is notorious for insanely fast shoots. A month is long for him.

Oh, I don't know. Evidence that cast and crew are shooting for six weeks rather than the whole two the author of the "article" offers as proof. Of course, none of this really matters. I don't care if they're shooting for another 8 weeks, as long as it comes together well.

I remember similar claims being made when Wolverine was coming out. Everyone wanted to deny them. I think the final product spoke for itself.

[chaseter]

That LR article has me worried again:( I got sad with the leaked pic and then Vaughn said it was fake and now apparently it is real again and now this...:( Please be a good movie.

This is starting to turn into X3 and Wolverine with lies being thrown around everywhere.

[X-Maniac]

Being on set one day does not mean you are there for all of the filming. Also, who knows how many units are filming.

And possibly more importantly, if these are pick ups, why is Vaughn there? Who shoots weeks worth of pickups five months before the release of the film?

What is becoming obvious is your bias against the production.

[chaseter]

fyi...a director does not film every single shot in the movie.

[Electrix]

That LR article has me worried again:( I got sad with the leaked pic and then Vaughn said it was fake and now apparently it is real again and now this...:(

People are taking that image thing way too seriously. On the whole scale of things that image doesn't even matter. What matters is the trailer and the end result.

Photoshopped promotional images don't mean s***

[chaseter]

People are taking that image thing way too seriously. On the whole scale of things that image doesn't even matter. What matters is the trailer and the end result.

Photoshopped promotional images don't mean s***

Yes it does:huh: They aren't going to change the way the characters look when the movie comes out in 4 months. If the film was a year away, then I would agree with you.

[DarthSkywalker]

oh yes i am sure latinoreview.com is the more reliable source than the LA Times:dry:

Are you talking about this article?

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/01/19/x-menfirst-class-three-exclusive-photos-and-a-report-from-the-stressed-out-set/

Because really, it doesn't say what Vaughn is doing. He could be in fact destroying his will to live editing on set, attempting to supervise the rest of the shooting at the same time. Would be quite easy if they are shooting digitally.

[Electrix]

Yes it does:huh: They aren't going to change the way the characters look when the movie comes out in 4 months. If the film was a year away, then I would agree with you.

Well if you've got issues with how they look then that's up to you. Things always look better on camera.

[DarthSkywalker]

What is becoming obvious is your bias against the production.

Nah, what I don't like is this group mentally to simply jump on those that don't paint this production as smooth sailing.

Here is the reality. They are still shooting five months from release. There is no trailer. The first images didn't hit until this week.

[Matt Mortem]

All I give a damn about is the final product and how it looks. If it's great (which I'm optimistic it will be) then I don't care who's present on the re-shoots or whatever.

[Mastodon123]

I see fanboi denial has showed it ugly face again in the x-men forums.

[BMM]

Clint Eastwood is notorious for insanely fast shoots. A month is long for him.



I remember similar claims being made when Wolverine was coming out. Everyone wanted to deny them. I think the final product spoke for itself.

Wolverine's problems extended far beyond any additional shooting.

[X-Maniac]

Nah, what I don't like is this group mentally to simply jump on those that don't paint this production as smooth sailing.

Here is the reality. They are still shooting five months from release. There is no trailer. The first images didn't hit until this week.

Well, I don't think any such production would be plain sailing, Hundreds of people, millions of dollars...it's bound to have stresses and strains and challenges and arguments.

I'm sure a lot of movies have such dramas without us hearing about them, or without it affecting the finished product one bit.

I don't see the need for us to start flapping purely on the basis of a piece of gossip. I'm sure many movies are still adjusting things and doing things in the last months/weeks/days before release. In fact, I can think of one instance where special effects were being worked on the week before the release date.

[X-Maniac]

I see fanboi denial has showed it ugly face again in the x-men forums.

And you want to believe everything you read on the internet?

[chaseter]

Well if you've got issues with how they look then that's up to you. Things always look better on camera.

My issue is with Beast...he looks terrible. Everyone else looks fine. My next issue is the reports that the movie is in trouble which oddly is why Vaughn backed out of X3. Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again from studio pressure and a rushed schedule.

[DarthSkywalker]

Wolverine's problems extended far beyond any additional shooting.

The question is why is there so much additional shooting. Additional shooting on such a scale usually means there are significant problems.

[BMM]

Perhaps... if there is such additional shooting in the first place.

[Electrix]

My issue is with Beast...he looks terrible. Everyone else looks fine. My next issue is the reports that the movie is in trouble which oddly is why Vaughn backed out of X3. Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again from studio pressure and a rushed schedule.

Vaughn walking out on First Class? Not gonna happen.

And you can't really judge Beast a whole lot from that image. He's at the back in the dark with bad photoshop. Wait till you see him on screen.

[X-Maniac]

My issue is with Beast...he looks terrible. Everyone else looks fine. My next issue is the reports that the movie is in trouble which oddly is why Vaughn backed out of X3. Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again.

There is only one report, at this moment, and it's unproven. It may be true or it may not. I need more evidence (maybe that's journalistic training, I don't know, but i am not believing everything I read, especially if unsubstantiated).

As for Beast, it was hard to tell in the depths of that shadow. I'd need to see a proper shot of the character.

[chaseter]

Didn't say he was going to walk out. I said that the reasons he walked out may be happening again.

[Matt Mortem]

My issue is with Beast...he looks terrible. Everyone else looks fine. My next issue is the reports that the movie is in trouble which oddly is why Vaughn backed out of X3. Wouldn't surprise me if it happened again from studio pressure and a rushed schedule.

To be fair, we really haven't gotten a decent look at him yet.

[c-saw]

The question is why is there so much additional shooting. Additional shooting on such a scale usually means there are significant problems.

On a scale of 1-10, how much do you want this movie to fail? Honestly.

[chaseter]

To be fair, we really haven't gotten a decent look at him yet.

Which is why whoever made that picture needs to be fired. It is awful. It was my first look at Beast and I was wholly disappointed. And now we get word that it is official...which makes me even sadder.

[X-Maniac]

The question is why is there so much additional shooting. Additional shooting on such a scale usually means there are significant problems.

That is based on the assumption that there is, in fact, six weeks of additional shooting. It may not be true. Maybe there is one week, or two week, or six days not weeks. We need more facts before melting down.

[Matt Mortem]

Which is why whoever made that picture needs to be fired. It is awful. It was my first look at Beast and I was wholly disappointed. And now we get word that it is official...which makes me even sadder.

Oh I was disappointed too. I'm keeping fingers crossed for a decent blue, furry Beast reveal. I also want to know how they're gonna do his transformation from human looking guy to blue monkey man.

[DarthSkywalker]

On a scale of 1-10, how much do you want this movie to fail? Honestly.

Lets say three. Love January Jones, Leto II and the guy who made Layer Cake, Kick-ass and Stardust. Would be a 1, but then they didn't cast Rosamund Pike. :csad:

[Mastodon123]

And you want to believe everything you read on the internet?

No, but anytime theres an unfavorable report about a movie from legit sites, the hypesters usually tout the line that it's totally BS, and act like theres no way its anyway possible. Just like when there were reports Spider Man 4 was in big trouble, everyone said it was total BS. Total fanboi denial.

[c-saw]

Lets say three. Love January Jones, Leto II and the guy who made Layer Cake, Kick-ass and Stardust. Would be a 1, but then they didn't cast Rosamund Pike. :csad:

Hey, at least you admit you're a hater.

[DarthSkywalker]

That is based on the assumption that there is, in fact, six weeks of additional shooting. It may not be true. Maybe there is one week, or two week, or six days not weeks. We need more facts before melting down.

You are right. Vaughn, in the LA Times articles, says there is still lots to do. What that means remains to be seen, but the track record isn't good.

[Matt Mortem]

There's a difference between blind fanboy denial and optimism. We saw one ****** photoshopped promo image and a report without a clear source and now people are running about spouting. "oh noes teh movie is doomed!1!!1!!" I'm staying optimistic until I see the goddamn film.

[Matt Mortem]

double

[X-Maniac]

No, but anytime theres an unfavorable report about a movie from legit sites, the hypesters usually tout the line that it's BS, and act like theres no way its anyway possible.

I think most people are just wary of believing it outright. It may be true, it may not. Latino Review (or its sources, anyway) hasn't always been 100 per cent right.

Most of us here are taking the stance that we simply don't know if it's true and therefore won't just believe it without wanting further evidence. Which is the right way to go about it.

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes, as I said, those are the characters. It was the odd shadowing/lighting (not to mention clashing colours and weird juxtapositions) that people didn't like.

I haven't seen much praise for the outfits outside of this forum. Many jokes about seatbelts and 70s adult film.

[Matt Mortem]

triple

[Matt Mortem]

quadruple

[Matt Mortem]

Edit: lag

[psyonic]

I don't doubt the article .. since we haven't gotten a trailer yet and Vaughan is unsure when we're getting one but where is the source?

If it's not working out, I'm glad they're taking additional time to re shoot scenes rather than winging it and give us something gross to watch. The still shots look pretty good, the sets and costumes do feel like it's set in the 60s.

It really comes down to being rushed for the June 3 release date, but I have faith because X1 and X2 had similar schedules and they were the best of the bunch.

[Angamb]

Captain America doesnt have a trailer yet either.

Both studios are working on the effects, obviously.

And to call a movie "rushed" is like the new hobbie of the net.

some people cant understand that movies like this have a BIG team behind them and a clear shooting schedule from day one.

[BoredGuy]

everyone keeps saying X1 & 2 had similar time frames, but thats not exactly true.
X1 had lots of development time, even if final production started fairly shortly before release.
X2 was greenlit basically the moment X1 made cash, so pre-production and all, that movie had 2-2 1/2 years.


This one didn't have nearly the lead in time. This goes from concept to shooting to released in less than 2 years.

I'm not saying that means it'll be bad, but this one is definitely more on the X3 time scale.

I hope this comes out well, but I am definitely having deja vu to the reports of trouble we heard on XO:W...I hope it works out differently

[batsfan81]

It seems to me it should be pretty obvious that Vaughn was lying bout the 1st image being fake. So you don't know where it came from? It was not the best image but all you gotta say is "hey its not the best shot but wait and see what we got". Him acting like he doesn't know where it came from just makes it seem like the lr.com is true.I've actually liked the images thus far but Vaughn's not helping his case.

[Project862006]

everyone keeps saying X1 & 2 had similar time frames, but thats not exactly true.
X1 had lots of development time, even if final production started fairly shortly before release.
X2 was greenlit basically the moment X1 made cash, so pre-production and all, that movie had 2-2 1/2 years.


This one didn't have nearly the lead in time. This goes from concept to shooting to released in less than 2 years.

I'm not saying that means it'll be bad, but this one is definitely more on the X3 time scale.

I hope this comes out well, but I am definitely having deja vu to the reports of trouble we heard on XO:W...I hope it works out differently

they did have rushed production as well x1 and x2 were released a good 5 months after they filmed

[Angamb]

I dont believe the reports.

I highly doubt Singer and Matthew would let Fox to make the same mistakes of X3.

[KenK]

There's a difference between blind fanboy denial and optimism. We saw one ****** photoshopped promo image and a report without a clear source and now people are running about spouting. "oh noes teh movie is doomed!1!!1!!" I'm staying optimistic until I see the goddamn film.

Meanwhile, fans can't wait for Black Panther, now that there's a (completely untested ) screenwriter attached!!! Like that movie's getting made anytime soon! :woot: (And I'd actually love to see a Black Panther film. Don't get me wrong.)

[Octoberist]

There's a part of me who is rooting for the film to work.

But at the same time, once I found out that the shoot started in friggin' September 2010 for a June 2011 release, and it's still being shot, I was thinking "OMG, what a schedule."

[Matt Mortem]

It is rushed, there's no doubt about it.

[DCUmoviepage]

MORE!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E-550x366.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640-550x366.jpg


And Vaughn on the leaked photo:


More from Vaughn here!
http://www.slashfilm.com/exclusive-matthew-vaughn-reveals-magneto-professor-xmen-class/

Magneto's new helmet as freaking awesome!

[craigdbfan]

There's a part of me who is rooting for the film to work.

But at the same time, once I found out that the shoot started in friggin' September 2010 for a June 2011 release, and it's still being shot, I was thinking "OMG, what a schedule."

It is rushed, there's no doubt about it.

There are no two ways about it really. That explanation from Octoberist says it all.

I think Vaughn is a good enough director that he can make it work. Apparently he had this idea before even being approached by Fox so maybe that'll help.

[dark_b]

its so funny how Vaughn tryed to lie about the first picture to calm down fanboys. its cute that he wanted to stop the negative comments.
but SHH owned him on every possible level. SHH thank you and i have more respect for you.

does it matter if they are filming now? the movie started filming in september for a summer realese. even if they would have today all the footage it would still be rushed.
they never had enough time.

but the fanboy denial is amusing. i am eating popcorn and reading SHH posts. this is better then Eddie Murphy from the 80's

[cronosred]

It's funny how the fans are whining about the leaked picture, it's like X-Men 1 all over again.

[JP]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.

[Robin91939]

Kinda wish they used this Magneto helmet in all of the films, it looks so good.

-R

[Majik1387]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.
Agreed.

[Seen]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.

Well said.

[malgal3000]

Kinda wish they used this Magneto helmet in all of the films, it looks so good.

-R


I agree, it looks great!

[Ipodman]

Wow.. with all these new photos coming out, this is probably my most anticipated movie of this year! (And god knows I like to support the underdog!)

[BobJM]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.

this.

[Doctor Jones]

Love the two news pictures and love the poster.

[Sebastos]

Those two pics are great, things are really shaping up nicely.

[Sebastos]

Those two pics are great, things are really shaping up nicely.

[danoyse]

I could care less what the real deal is with the photo. I'll decide what think of the movie when I actually get to see the finished product.

[flickchick85]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.
+1 :up:

[xmanzo]

who the hell are you? P_ from A-Z.are you a king?

[Cagefighterkip]

I could care less what the real deal is with the photo. I'll decide what think of the movie when I actually get to see the finished product.

Same here. I've never gotten the blind pessimism some fans can have.
"The picture is photoshopped?!? It's gonna suck!"
I'm guess I'm just an optimist...

[Not_Sane]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but if so sorry. But who is Oliver Platt supposed to be? The Man in Black? who is that supposed to be?

[Kokomo29]

Here's how I'm looking @ the movie: Is it being rushed? ...yeah, but the fact of the matter is, it's going to be how it's going to be and there is nothing that we can really do about it, ya know? I'm going to be supportive of it and wait until I see the final product. The first X-Men movie was really rushed and it didn't turn out that bad at all. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but I would really like to see this movie succeed and I find blatant hate and bashing (without seeing the final product) unneeded.

Just my $0.02

[bosef982]

Let me chime in here...

We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.

Vaughn never said it was a fake image, obviously we know its not. He said HE did not approve of it and that it does not reflect the film. It just seems like SHH and now Latino Review are a little butt hurt that they didn't get to be apart of all the exclusives like AICN, /Film, MSN, MovieFone, IGN, THR, and Hero Complex got.

Agreed and so true. I think the real story here is that SHH and Latino Review are apparently very desperate for readers.

The Latino Review post is 100% FALSE. They are shooting pick-ups, which is entirely not unusual for a film of this size and on this schedule. Vaughn is 100% involved and commanding this picture, with all major scenes that require directorial vision being handled by him. Of course there is some 2nd unit shooting, but this is Vaughn's baby and he is not being man-handled.

There is not "someone else" (idiotic that this was even reported) shooting this film. If there were, you'd know it as we all knew about Gavin Hood and Richard Donner's lovely shared-directing.

The fact that people here even give one ounce to that...well, you know, since working in the industry, I have become more and more shocked by the discrepancy between what's reported by so-called reliable sites and what's actually happening.

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.

Why doesn't everyone relax, take a chill pill, and have some fun.

[Kokomo29]

Agreed and so true. I think the real story here is that SHH and Latino Review are apparently very desperate for readers.

The Latino Review post is 100% FALSE. They are shooting pick-ups, which is entirely not unusual for a film of this size and on this schedule. Vaughn is 100% involved and commanding this picture, with all major scenes that require directorial vision being handled by him. Of course there is some 2nd unit shooting, but this is Vaughn's baby and he is not being man-handled.

There is not "someone else" (idiotic that this was even reported) shooting this film. If there were, you'd know it as we all knew about Gavin Hood and Richard Donner's lovely shared-directing.

The fact that people here even give one ounce to that...well, you know, since working in the industry, I have become more and more shocked by the discrepancy between what's reported by so-called reliable sites and what's actually happening.

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.

Why doesn't everyone relax, take a chill pill, and have some fun.

Could not have said it better myself :woot:

[Robin91939]

Agreed and so true. I think the real story here is that SHH and Latino Review are apparently very desperate for readers.

The Latino Review post is 100% FALSE. They are shooting pick-ups, which is entirely not unusual for a film of this size and on this schedule. Vaughn is 100% involved and commanding this picture, with all major scenes that require directorial vision being handled by him. Of course there is some 2nd unit shooting, but this is Vaughn's baby and he is not being man-handled.

There is not "someone else" (idiotic that this was even reported) shooting this film. If there were, you'd know it as we all knew about Gavin Hood and Richard Donner's lovely shared-directing.

The fact that people here even give one ounce to that...well, you know, since working in the industry, I have become more and more shocked by the discrepancy between what's reported by so-called reliable sites and what's actually happening.

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.

Why doesn't everyone relax, take a chill pill, and have some fun.

This intrigues me....elaborate?

-R

[psyonic]

Agreed and so true. I think the real story here is that SHH and Latino Review are apparently very desperate for readers.

The Latino Review post is 100% FALSE. They are shooting pick-ups, which is entirely not unusual for a film of this size and on this schedule. Vaughn is 100% involved and commanding this picture, with all major scenes that require directorial vision being handled by him. Of course there is some 2nd unit shooting, but this is Vaughn's baby and he is not being man-handled.

There is not "someone else" (idiotic that this was even reported) shooting this film. If there were, you'd know it as we all knew about Gavin Hood and Richard Donner's lovely shared-directing.

The fact that people here even give one ounce to that...well, you know, since working in the industry, I have become more and more shocked by the discrepancy between what's reported by so-called reliable sites and what's actually happening.

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.

Why doesn't everyone relax, take a chill pill, and have some fun.

Is it the size of Magneto's helmet? I can see him making that on the spot after the crash i.e parts of the Blackbird jet or even from a part of a missile ..

[JP]

I loved how Latino Review implied that they basically have nothing and are re-filming the entire movie in 6 weeks. I mean, really?

Thanks for the insight, as always, Bosef.

[Theweepeople]

My feelings about this production started off neutral and became cautiously optimistic for awhile. These feelings probably won't change again until I see a trailer. Below is an interesting article on the production.

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/7349-the-end-of-my-cautious-optimism-for-qx-men-first-classq.html


I'm still cautiously optimistic about the film but, I'm totally prepared for it too suck so I'll be fine regardless of the outcome.

[JP]

That dude is really complaining about a soon-to-be Oscar nominated actress?

[Rac]

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-x-men-first-class-the-plot-thickens-12317

You know, I wouldn't be surprised at all...

My feelings about this production started off neutral and became cautiously optimistic for awhile. These feelings probably won't change again until I see a trailer. Below is an interesting article on the production.

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/7349-the-end-of-my-cautious-optimism-for-qx-men-first-classq.html


I'm still cautiously optimistic about the film but, I'm totally prepared for it too suck so I'll be fine regardless of the outcome.
Same here.

That dude is really complaining about a soon-to-be Oscar nominated actress?

Halle Berry won an Oscar.

[cronosred]

Agreed and so true. I think the real story here is that SHH and Latino Review are apparently very desperate for readers.

The Latino Review post is 100% FALSE. They are shooting pick-ups, which is entirely not unusual for a film of this size and on this schedule. Vaughn is 100% involved and commanding this picture, with all major scenes that require directorial vision being handled by him. Of course there is some 2nd unit shooting, but this is Vaughn's baby and he is not being man-handled.

There is not "someone else" (idiotic that this was even reported) shooting this film. If there were, you'd know it as we all knew about Gavin Hood and Richard Donner's lovely shared-directing.

The fact that people here even give one ounce to that...well, you know, since working in the industry, I have become more and more shocked by the discrepancy between what's reported by so-called reliable sites and what's actually happening.

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.

Why doesn't everyone relax, take a chill pill, and have some fun.


I feel the fans are looking for any reason to tear this film apart because Singer isn't directing. If Singer was directing this and released the same photos everyone would be saying what a genius he is and how he's saving the X-franchise. I really thought people would give Vaughn more of a chance but I guess that's not going to be the case.

[JP]

You know, I wouldn't be surprised at all...


Same here.



Halle Berry won an Oscar.

But Jennifer Lawrence has talent. :huh:

[BMM]

I'm sorry I even clicked on the link, but the saving grace is the editor's note. There's nothing like reading an article about preparedness only to discover the author either can't properly proof read his own damn work or can't distinguish between the names of Batman's Tom Hardy and the New England Patriots' Tom Brady. :doh:

[dark_b]

i forgot we only belive LR when they have casting news. but when LR is writting about filming problems they are making it up.

hahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahah

[Crockett]

But now is only LR that are stating things about the film's production in a article with no evidence to back up makes you wonder of course if it's true or not.

[JP]

i forgot we only belive LR when they have casting news. but when LR is writting about filming problems they are making it up.

hahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahah

We got an article in the LA Times with quotes from Singer and Vaughn just yesterday. Did either say that things were going smooth and perfect? No, both were honest that things were 'stressful' and 'hectic'. Having LR say the same thing a day later as if it's some scandalous secret is kinda pathetic.

Then to say that they're not doing reshoots or puck-ups, but are instead refilming scenes they're not happy with. Um, excuse me, isn't that exactly what RESHOOTS are?

[flickchick85]

I agree with JP - LR seems to be making some rather large leaps out of a relatively small pile of facts in that report for the purpose of negative spin.

[DarthSkywalker]

I loved how Latino Review implied that they basically have nothing and are re-filming the entire movie in 6 weeks. I mean, really?

Thanks for the insight, as always, Bosef.

That is not what they are implying at all. That are basically saying that a lot of what was shot is not going down well and they are trying to fix that in six weeks.

There is a difference.

We got an article in the LA Times with quotes from Singer and Vaughn just yesterday. Did either say that things were going smooth and perfect? No, both were honest that things were 'stressful' and 'hectic'. Having LR say the same thing a day later as if it's some scandalous secret is kinda pathetic.

Then to say that they're not doing reshoots or puck-ups, but are instead refilming scenes they're not happy with. Um, excuse me, isn't that exactly what RESHOOTS are?

Unless of course they are right and it is more then a little bit of re-shooting. There is a huge, and I mean huge difference between a couple of weeks of re-shoots and 6 weeks worth. At that point you are fundamentally changing something about the film. We aren't talking about LOTR here.
This isn't going to be some three hour film.

[dark_b]

But now is only LR that are stating things about the film's production in a article with no evidence to back up makes you wonder of course if it's true or not.how can an internet site show you evidence about filming ? about casting? about production problems?they can not.

the only thing you can do is you look at their history and then you decide if you belive it or not.

[Crockett]

how can an internet site show you evidence about filming ? about casting? about production problems?they can not.

the only thing you can do is you look at their history and then you decide if you belive it or not.
But since LR is the only site that are reporting this I'll just take it with a grain of salt. And if the filming manage to be on schedule and edit a good movie then it's all fine for me since the final product is the most important.

[chaseter]

Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.


Is it Beast? Is it the way he looks? Please be, if Beast look nothing like that bad photoshop then the meter will go back up to 100%.

[bosef982]

i forgot we only belive LR when they have casting news. but when LR is writting about filming problems they are making it up.

hahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahah

Um....

There was no evidence for any of the things claimed, and the LA TIMES (who prob has a teensy bit more cred than El Mayimbo or whatever the **** he calls himself) reported the same.

Plus, I can just tell you -- their report is false, and probably the product of the same dork-type extra on set who thought the practical joke played on set with "YOU WILL HAVE MY BABY" was actual lines.

[bosef982]

I'm sorry I even clicked on the link, but the saving grace is the editor's note. There's nothing like reading an article about preparedness only to discover the author either can't properly proof read his own damn work or can't distinguish between the names of Batman's Tom Hardy and the New England Patriots' Tom Brady. :doh:

Yeah, the self-professed comic book nerd couldn't distinguish that...

...and honestly, with Jennifer Lawrence, they're looking at raw talent and ability. She can watch the 3 films after. Jesus...

Apparently, only those who have watched the film's religiously should play the roles.

[bosef982]

That is not what they are implying at all. That are basically saying that a lot of what was shot is not going down well and they are trying to fix that in six weeks.

There is a difference.



Unless of course they are right and it is more then a little bit of re-shooting. There is a huge, and I mean huge difference between a couple of weeks of re-shoots and 6 weeks worth. At that point you are fundamentally changing something about the film. We aren't talking about LOTR here.
This isn't going to be some three hour film.

Okay, here we go...

Six weeks worth of scheduled (SCHEDULED) reshoots for a film is not unheard of.

Also, six weeks worth of scheduled reshoots to accommodate the director -- who is also editing the movie at the same time -- and the CAST's SCHEDULE -- who are courting other projects? Gasp! Could it be that they are not shooting everyday because Vaughn and principal cast members not there everyday? So let's say we go a quarter of the time Vaughn or cast can't shoot due to editing and scheduling (which is being conservative), that means we have about 4 weeks worth of reshoots which for a production this size is still normal.

The article and many here have already said that entire movie can be shot in 6 weeks? Yeah, it can be. So why is this person also blasting the fact that X-Men First Class was shot in about 12-14 weeks and now it's rushed? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It's "scandal" and "inside reports" from a website that no longer finds itself at the forefront like it did in the early 00s. It makes about four spurious claims from ONE PIECE of factual information (that reshoots are occurring).

Also, if they were returning to London or to Georgia to shoot, then you should be worried that they are making major changes.

[bosef982]

Is it Beast? Is it the way he looks? Please be, if Beast look nothing like that bad photoshop then the meter will go back up to 100%.

I will say it's not this, and I will tell you not to worry about Beast. That photograph is a bad photoshop. You just have to wait for the final product and ultimately, trust the story.

[chaseter]

Can you say if Beast looks amazing or not? Which comic incarnation does he resemble most?

[thewhyteman]

But Jennifer Lawrence has talent. :huh:

Halle Berry has a couple nice talents.:yay:

[JP]

Halle Berry has a couple nice talents.:yay:
So does Jennifer Lawrence. :ninja:

[bosef982]

Can you say if Beast looks amazing or not? Which comic incarnation does he resemble most?

I'll be honest, I have not seen the finished version of Beast. That's why I can only say that is a bad photoshop, of which that I know.

[chaseter]

My coworker's brother works on the Fox lot and he always lets us in on some cool secrets when he gets word but he has said nothing about X-Men:( This movie has been extremely tight lipped for a long time and I would say has been one of the most tight lipped of any movie in my recent memory.

[JP]

I'm glad of it. I knew everything there was to know about the last two films before the began principal photography. :dry:

[Kane52630]

JP you're about to hit the 40k mark

[thewhyteman]

Holy crapola thats alotta posts!

[JP]

I'll stop posting and save it for the trailer.

[Matt Mortem]

A part of me likes that this is pretty tight lipped. I ruined The Last Stand for myself because I knew everything before I went in to the theater

[Storm22]

A part of me likes that this is pretty tight lipped. I ruined The Last Stand for myself because I knew everything before I went in to the theater

Same here.