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merbass
06-17-2010, 06:38 AM
This thread is called News and Speculation. Why are people so upset and angry about everything. Have fun and speculate !

Aaron Johnson as Cyclop. Yeah !!!!

TNC9852002
06-17-2010, 10:38 AM
I told ya JP..The ball is still rolling!

JP
06-17-2010, 10:44 AM
More fun stuff.
Tom Hornsby is a "crowd costume supervisor". I guess there will be a large crowd at some point during the film?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0395204/

Brent Baker of Spectral Motion, who worked on X3 and did some fantastic work IMO, is working on First Class.
So is Mike Elizalde.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0253761/

TheVelvetOnion
06-17-2010, 01:10 PM
i was in a uk news paper but the article isnt on there website i checked,

danoyse
06-17-2010, 06:19 PM
Chris Hemsworth played Chris Pine's father in Star Trek so I don't know why James Can't be Xavier and Aaron plays Cyclops ?

You realize he played Kirk's father when Kirk was a newborn, right? :dry:

Jake Cassidy
06-17-2010, 06:24 PM
I hope Banshee is in the movie. He's 1 of my favourite X-Men.

narrows101
06-17-2010, 06:50 PM
Speaking of Benjamin Walker (link includes photo and YouTube video):

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/17/x-men-first-class-student-benjamin-walker

“X Men First Class” Student: Benjamin Walker (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/06/17/x-men-first-class-student-benjamin-walker)
By: Roger Friedman (http://www.showbiz411.com/) in Movies (http://www.showbiz411.com/category/movie) // June 17th, 2010 at 4:12 PM EDT

Matthew Vaughn’s “X Men: First Class” is picking up another cast member. Benjamin Walker, star of the Public Theater’s “Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson,” is the name to remember. He’s going to play Beast, the character played in “X Men 3″ by Kelsey Grammer. He’ll be joining the already cast James McAvoy and possibly Michael Fassbender.

Walker, like Grammer a Juilliard grad, is the hottest newcomer in New York theater this season. Until now, Andrew Jackson alsways was in the shadow of Abraham Lincoln. Walker made him hot.

Walker is so hot that the “X Men” role is turning out be an actual, uh, Beast. He still has a few more performances left at the Public. Then the not for profit theater is making plans to transfer to Broadway this fall. But Walker won’t be done with “X Men” until the end of the year. The question is, Will the Public wait for him? The answer is, Most likely, since Walker makes Andrew Jackson. Changing actors would do the play and the audience a disservice.

What a dilemma! Seen from the Public’s side, they’re ready to go and have the rest of the cast in place. It is hoped that this situation will not a Civil War.

TNC9852002
06-17-2010, 06:56 PM
Wowuh weewuh!

Walker seems to have the personality and build that can work very well for a young Hank!

marvelrobbins
06-17-2010, 06:58 PM
Wow.Beast has been cast.This report also suggests there may still be a possibly of
Michael Fassbender as Magneto.

With Aaron Johnson thought to be In the running for Cyclops,Rosamund Pike up for
Moira Mactaggert,and Amber Heard up for Mystique this cast Is starting to come together.

Electrix
06-17-2010, 09:18 PM
Seems Fassbender hasn't ruled himself out

James McAvoy has found his nemesis. Twentieth Century Fox is in negotiations with German-Irish actor Michael Fassbender for the role of Erik Lensherr, the man who becomes Magneto in the X-Men origin story X-Men: First Class. Fassbender, who most recently appeared in Quentin Tarantino’s Inglorious Basterds, has been a hot commodity of late: Rumor has it he was considered for the villain role in the reboot of Columbia Picture’s Spider-Man. Fassbender appeared in Spielberg’s Band of Brothers and garnered a lot of attention for his role in last year’s indie Fish Tank as well as his role as Lt. Archie Hicox in Basterds. He’ll show up this weekend in the Warner Bros. flick Jonah Hex.


First Class will be helmed by director Matthew Vaughn (Kick-Ass). The film will depict the early years of the relationship between Charles Xavier and Lensherr, two young mutants who are first discovering their powers. The two are the closest of friends at first, working together to stop a huge global threat. They later become enemies, leading to an eternal war between Magneto’s Brotherhood and Professor X’s X-Men.

Production is set to begin this summer in London. X-Men: First Class is scheduled for release on June 3, 2011.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/17/x-men-first-class/

Jake Cassidy
06-17-2010, 09:28 PM
Yes. I hope it all works out. Fassbender is awesome.

marvelrobbins
06-17-2010, 09:30 PM
This just keeps gettng better and better.We know have Xavier,Beast,and Magneto cast.

Electrix
06-17-2010, 09:32 PM
More details:

After two weeks of reading up and coming young actors for X-Men: First Class, 20th Century Fox has formally offered the role of Magneto to Michael Fassbender. Fassbender is also being courted to play a villain in the next Spider-Man. He can't do both and Fox is confident they will make a deal and have him join James McAvoy, who was recently set to play Xavier. Fassbender was offered the role today after reading last week, along with Aaron Johnson, Andrew Garfield, Jack Huston and Eddie Redmayne. Fox will now cast the rest of the roles, with thesps like Ben Walker, Rosamund Pike and Amber Heard among the names bandied. Director Matthew Vaughn starts production in August for a June 3, 2011 release.

Fassbender, who burst on the scene playing Bobby Sands in the Steve McQueen-directed Hunger, had a beefcake turn in 300 and costarred in Inglourious Basterds. He opens tomorrow in Jonah Hex and also stars in the Neil Marshall-directed Centurion, which opens August 27.



http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/fox-starts-negotiations-with-michael-fassbender-for-magneto-but-another-super-villain-turn-looms/

TNC9852002
06-17-2010, 09:35 PM
Andrew Garfield, Jack Huston, Redmayne...

are these guys reading for different parts or for the same one I wonder?...

marvelrobbins
06-17-2010, 09:38 PM
I sure would like to know who the other actos have been offered.We pretty Much know
Aaron Johnson Is probally up for Cyclops.And of course we know who Ben Walker,Rosamund Pike,and Amber Heard are playing.

TNC9852002
06-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Well, I thought the Johnson role has been speculated since day one. Isn't there still a lot of debate about what part he was up for?

Jake Cassidy
06-17-2010, 09:51 PM
Maybe all 4 of those guys mentioned are up for Cyclops.

gap5ewl
06-17-2010, 09:55 PM
So who is Rosamund playing? are we sure it's Moira or is there still hope it's Emma?

Jake Cassidy
06-17-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm pretty sure she's going to be Moira.

I wouldn't mind Emma as 1 of the students.

Superhero 101
06-17-2010, 10:27 PM
I don't mind if she is Emma or Moira she is a fine actress and i m sure she will give a good performance

TheComicbookKid
06-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Fassy!

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8986/troydance.gif (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/troydance.gif/)

marvelrobbins
06-17-2010, 10:41 PM
It appears She Is moira inless Singer and Vaughn are Ignoring certain aspects of
Wolverine and Last Stand and she Is Emma.Any role for her Is fine by me.She would make a great Emma but I have no problem with her as Moira.

TheComicbookKid
06-17-2010, 10:44 PM
I doubt Singer cares what X3/Wolverine established. He's probably just using the comic source.

marvelrobbins
06-17-2010, 10:55 PM
As long as It Is keep somewhat In line with X-men and X2 I am fine with Singer and
Vaughn taking Liberties with The Last Stand and Wolverine.I doudt too many will be
up with any liberites to The Last Stand and Wolverine First CLass does.

Jake Cassidy
06-17-2010, 11:03 PM
I don't mind if she is Emma or Moira she is a fine actress and i m sure she will give a good performance

No argument there.

JP
06-18-2010, 02:21 AM
WAH WAH WEE WAH! So good!

Jack Huston... looks a lot like Gambit. :/

Retroman
06-18-2010, 05:07 AM
Good to hear Fassbender is back in.
they are currently building sets at pinewood studios (I have a pinewood schedule)

im working at pinewood this summer so ill do some snooping
That's so cool! Don't snoop for anything that will get you into trouble though.:o

The final scenes from X-Men 3 (Magneto playing chess in the park) were actually shot at Pinewood (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/21/XMEN.TMP).
Brent Baker of Spectral Motion, who worked on X3 and did some fantastic work IMO, is working on First Class.
So is Mike Elizalde.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0253761/

Well i guess that means Spectral Motion is back on board which is good news. They're experienced and good at what they do plus in the past 2 years they haven't done any high profile movies so this is a boost for them too i imagine.
WAH WAH WEE WAH! So good!

Jack Huston... looks a lot like Gambit. :/

He does! But i hope they stick with Kitsch if Gambit has a role in the film.

narrows101
06-18-2010, 05:28 AM
http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/fox-starts-negotiations-with-michael-fassbender-for-magneto-but-another-super-villain-turn-looms/

Fox Negotiating With Michael Fassbender For Magneto Role In 'X-Men: First Class'
By MIKE FLEMING

After two weeks of reading up-and-coming young actors for X-Men: First Class, 20th Century Fox has formally offered the role of Magneto to Michael Fassbender. Fassbender is also being courted to play a villain in the next Spider-Man. He can't do both -- and Fox is confident they will make a deal and have him join James McAvoy, who was recently set to play Xavier. Fassbender was offered the role today after reading last week, along with Aaron Johnson, Andrew Garfield, Jack Huston and Eddie Redmayne. Fox will now cast the rest of the roles, with thesps like Ben Walker, Rosamund Pike and Amber Heard among the names bandied. Director Matthew Vaughn starts production in August for a June 3, 2011 release.

Fassbender, who burst on the scene playing Bobby Sands in the Steve McQueen-directed Hunger, had a beefcake turn in 300 and costarred in Inglourious Basterds. He opens tomorrow in Jonah Hex and also stars in the Neil Marshall-directed Centurion, which opens August 27.

merbass
06-18-2010, 05:34 AM
Jack Huston looks like Taylor Kitsch. If indeed Gambit is in the movie, I think Taylor culd reprise his roles. Unless he is busy filming many other movies.

Retroman
06-18-2010, 05:54 AM
Scottish theater actor Ross Steele (http://www.uk.castingcallpro.com/view.php?uid=187991) (pic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joannewarren/3808664042/)) would love to get an audition.Judging the url name he's given his twitter page and the wallpaper in the background, the man seems to be a fan of Phoenix.

is totally sending his CV and headshot in for the X-men:First Class castings. I could really play Bobby Drake or a young Scott Summers!
11:18 PM Jun 1st via webOK CV n headshot are sent. Need help creating twitter buzz to land xmen first class audition. Please help
4:07 AM Jun 6th via Twitter for Android
http://twitter.com/steelephoenix


Also, a little less than a month ago (May 19, 2010) Bryan Singer arrived at the 11th Annual MAXIM HOT 100 Party in Los Angeles with actress Lauren Storm (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1478996/) by his side. This is just pure specualtion on my part but it wouldn't surprise me if she auditioned for a part in First Class too.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2484/100008804.jpg
Source (http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/100008804/FilmMagic)

Doctor Jones
06-18-2010, 10:33 AM
Holy crap that's alot of names being considered!

Love that Fassenbender is being offered the role.

TNC9852002
06-18-2010, 10:51 AM
Jeez, is Fassbender in or not?

I don't think he nor the media can make up their minds.

JP
06-18-2010, 11:03 AM
Let's make a list:

Aaron Johnson
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/aaron_johnson.jpg

Andrew Garfield
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/lea5ds.jpg

Jack Huston
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/gallery_main-jack-huston-eclipse-08.jpg

Eddie Redmayne
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/eddie_redmayne.jpg


Let the speculation begin. . .

merbass
06-18-2010, 11:40 AM
Aaron Johnson does not look like this anymore. He lost his youthful looks !

FaT_tONle
06-18-2010, 11:42 AM
Last guy looks a lot like Mardsen if they get the makeup right.

JP
06-18-2010, 11:43 AM
Aaron Johnson does not look like this anymore. He lost his youthful looks !
Because he grew some facial hair..?

merbass
06-18-2010, 12:14 PM
his whole facial feature changed quite a lot from the pic you posted. This picture was taken in 2007. Kick Ass was filmed in 2008. He is now a mature young man !

JP
06-18-2010, 12:22 PM
Lolz, k.
:)

narrows101
06-18-2010, 12:27 PM
Hollywood Reporter:

http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/06/xmen-first-class-finding-its-magneto-in-michael-fassbender.html

'X-Men: First Class' finding its Magneto in Michael Fassbender

The villainous mutant leader Magneto may have proved more irresistible than the villain in the relaunched Spider-Man movie.

Michael Fassbender, who was being courted for both roles from Fox and Columbia, respectively, has entered early negotiations to play Magneto in "X-Men: First Class," which Matthew Vaughn is directing.

The studio is in full-blown casting mode for the movie, which is gearing up for an August start in London, and Fassbender's name, and his double choice, surfaced last week. The studio has been testing and reading actors such as Aaron Johnson and Andrew Garfield to join James McAvoy, who is playing Professor Xavier in the movie, which focuses on the superpowered team X-Men in a younger incarnation than the previous trilogy.

Fassbender's big Hollywood break came with a key turn in "Inglourious Basterds," where he played Canadian spy Archie Hicox. He has a role in "Jonah Hex," which opens tomorrow, and stars in Neil Marshall's Roman action movie "Centurion," which opens in August.

The real question here is, how badly does Columbia want Fassbender as their villain? Could Columbia make an aggressive play for the actor?

- Borys Kit

Electrix
06-18-2010, 12:28 PM
Jeez, is Fassbender in or not?

I don't think he nor the media can make up their minds.

Only Production Weekly said he passed on the role, so it was more about them getting it wrong than Fassbender changing his mind. From the sounds of it he's been up for it all along.

JP
06-18-2010, 12:36 PM
He's in negotiations, meaning they offered him the role and he wants it. Now they're just working out a contract. Granted, nothing is final until he signs the dotted line, and things can still fall apart... but he's basically a lock.

Electrix
06-18-2010, 12:37 PM
his whole facial feature changed quite a lot from the pic you posted. This picture was taken in 2007. Kick Ass was filmed in 2008. He is now a mature young man !

This is him from February. When he hasn't got facial hair he looks his age.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/561/96928884.jpg

TNC9852002
06-18-2010, 01:06 PM
Hmmm...Johnson looks a tad bit older for his age, but that's the trend I'm seeing..

heh, I wonder if I should go see Jonah Hex, just to see Fassbender.. :p

JP
06-18-2010, 01:13 PM
I don't think Johnson looks a day older than 23.

TNC9852002
06-18-2010, 01:16 PM
I agree

Downhere
06-18-2010, 01:26 PM
heh, I wonder if I should go see Jonah Hex, just to see Fassbender.. :p

From the reviews, do you really want to torture yourself? lol.

TheVelvetOnion
06-18-2010, 02:02 PM
Wow, when i read that article in the newspaper that beast would be cast soon i thought it was just speculation on the newspapers part however looks like they were true... wonder if they have a source.

SuperT
06-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Didn't the article that said we'd be hearing Beast casting news soon also say that we would be hearing Banshee casting news soon too?

Things that make you go hmmmmmm.....

JP
06-18-2010, 02:07 PM
I'd love for Banshee to be apart of the first class, but if Moira is in this, I imagine Banshee would also be around that age.

X-Maniac
06-18-2010, 02:19 PM
Well, we saw Banshee at the end of Wolverine, he was muzzled in the prison and was tall with red hair. He's on the back left on this picture

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9506/wolverineimage.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/wolverineimage.jpg/)

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TNC9852002
06-18-2010, 02:29 PM
From the reviews, do you really want to torture yourself? lol.
Well, I wouldn't be PAYING to see it.. ;)

Well, we saw Banshee at the end of Wolverine, he was muzzled in the prison and was tall with red hair. He's on the back left on this picture

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9506/wolverineimage.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/wolverineimage.jpg/)

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Oh yeah, I remember...Although Pocock is 25, he was obviously playing a high school freshman/sophomore. Banshee in this pic seems to be about 4-5 years older than Cyclops here, which is about right I suppose. Either way, I doubt they'll even acknowledge this small appearance.. :D

akfj
06-18-2010, 03:00 PM
Well, we saw Banshee at the end of Wolverine, he was muzzled in the prison and was tall with red hair. He's on the back left on this picture

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9506/wolverineimage.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/wolverineimage.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Were any of those background characters in Wolverine ever confirmed to be comic characters, or was that just speculation? I've been unable to find any interviews with the filmmakers that talk about the cameos in the movie.

JP
06-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Just Cyclops and Emma.. though her last name is never mentioned to be Frost, and she isn't listed as Emma Frost in the credits either. Everything about the characters in the background is pure speculation.

Electrix
06-18-2010, 03:04 PM
When they added those cameos Josh Scwartz was working on the X-Men: First Class script and Lauren Shulder Donner said they changed stuff so it fit (probably why the Storm cameo was cut from Wolverine).

...but then Singer came in with his idea so those cameos probably won't matter. They may even ignore them completely.

TheVelvetOnion
06-18-2010, 03:16 PM
Sorry forgot to mention this from the article yesterday, it was just a short article about X-Men First Class being shot mostly from the UK (Ala...Batman Begins kind of trick) Locations are being pined out across the country including some parts of ireland... it then went on to say about the casting confirmation of Mystique, and that we would hear who was playing Beast and Banshee soon.

Wished i kept the paper really... Funny though because i dont normally read newspapers.

Electrix
06-18-2010, 03:18 PM
Which newspaper was it? The Independent?

TheVelvetOnion
06-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Although the uk location wise would ad up to Charles Xaviers life...

Charles Xavier and Eric Lenshire went to Oxford University, from there Charles met Moria...

With Ireland locations being scoutted... Hmmm i wonder if Muir island will be involved. Actually this has really hooked me now because think about it...

1. Banshee and Moria will be in it
2. Young Jean Grey will be in it
3. Charles back story will have scenes filmed in UK, possibly Oxford Universty where he met Moria
4. Ireland locations being set possibly Muir Island?

My question is, could the new villians of x-men aside from magneto be Black Tom Cassidy and The Juggernaut?

Or

Protues?

Or

Apocaylpse? -- althought Apocaylpse for a first class movie would seem wrong

TheVelvetOnion
06-18-2010, 03:23 PM
Which newspaper was it? The Independent?

No?

Think it was either Daily Mirror or Daily Express, sure it started with Daily...

Later that day i tried to find that article on there website but they didnt have it, possibly because internet is free and they want you to buy there product to get the stories or something.

TheVelvetOnion
06-18-2010, 03:40 PM
Just thought of something...

Everyone has connected Aaron Johnson to Cyclops but im begining to wonder if he is actually playing Black Tom Cassidy, think about it although the character was old in the comics, he was a younger brother to Banshee, Banshee was a teen when he was rescued from Strykers lab and First Class is believed to be an either what happend after that or before that for the x-men characters...

So a late teen Banshee would be a younger looking actor would have to play his brother Black Tom Cassidy.

http://www.sugarscape.com/userfiles/aaron-johnson.jpghttp://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/b/BlackTomCassidy.jpg

Its just a thought

JP
06-18-2010, 10:55 PM
Eddie Redmayne
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/eddie_redmayne.jpg


I was wondering where I heard/seen Eddie Redmayne recently. I just watched him win a Tony for his current role in the play RED on Broadway opposite Alfred Molina. :awesome:


Also, decided to compile all the actors we know are confirmed, or close to confirmed/heavily speculated..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/FIRST_CLASS.jpg
We should call them Sex Men. :awesome:

TheFuture
06-19-2010, 07:15 AM
Well, you can't have outcasts AND unattractive people in the same film, that would be just wrong. :cwink: It's kinda like saying yeah the X-Men are outcasts, but they're hot so it doesn't matter! :whatever:

X-Maniac
06-19-2010, 01:43 PM
When they added those cameos Josh Scwartz was working on the X-Men: First Class script and Lauren Shulder Donner said they changed stuff so it fit (probably why the Storm cameo was cut from Wolverine).

...but then Singer came in with his idea so those cameos probably won't matter. They may even ignore them completely.

Lauren says the Storm cameo was cut because Storm doesn't seem to remember Wolverine in X1. I still think the cameo could have worked as child Storm only caught a glimpse of Wolverine, mostly from the back as he walked away, and he never had his claws out..and she was just a kid. But anyway...

Yes, they may ignore those cameos of the mutants in Stryker's cages, but I'd love to know who they were all intended to be, just cos i love details!

Boom
06-19-2010, 02:10 PM
If Fassbender gets the role of Magneto, I will be there opening day.

TNC9852002
06-19-2010, 08:11 PM
He might as well do it now...so many fans are behind him for this role.

Figs
06-20-2010, 12:01 AM
Protues?

Or

Apocaylpse? -- althought Apocaylpse for a first class movie would seem wrong

As much as I would love to see both those villians on the big screen I think they're wrong for First Class. I just think it would be weird to have villains that strong for this young new team to fight and then seeing them in the first X-men having trouble with a weaker villian. Don't get me wrong, Magneto isn't a weak villian but his threat in the first film wasn't nearly as hardcore as it would be with Proteus or Apocalypse.

DarkSovereignty
06-20-2010, 09:19 AM
maybe they don't defeat the villain? Proteus' main is reality warping, right? and hven't they been comparing this film to star trek in that it'll be a prequel and a bit of a retcon? maybe the timeline gets messed up by proteus.

JP
06-20-2010, 10:07 AM
I had the exact thought a while ago. If that's what they wanted to do, that would be a great way to do it.

Judge Holden
06-20-2010, 10:16 AM
Who is Aaron Johnson rumoured to be playing? Or is he just rumoured to be on board with no character details yet?

TNC9852002
06-20-2010, 10:19 AM
Hmmm...It's possible that they could take this movie to a more fantastical level that way...

TNC9852002
06-20-2010, 01:18 PM
PLACE YOUR BIDS NOW

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102724-want-a-tour-of-the-x-men-first-class-set

TheVelvetOnion
06-20-2010, 03:58 PM
As much as I would love to see both those villians on the big screen I think they're wrong for First Class. I just think it would be weird to have villains that strong for this young new team to fight and then seeing them in the first X-men having trouble with a weaker villian. Don't get me wrong, Magneto isn't a weak villian but his threat in the first film wasn't nearly as hardcore as it would be with Proteus or Apocalypse.

I totally agree with you on this point, id rather they kept Apocaylpse for a story further down the road. However we also cant rule out that Fox might want Apocaylpse in the same way they wanted Gambit in Wolverine... So i am just thinking alloud stories that took place at Muir Island.

For X-Men villians i feel there is several different groups they can pick from...

See

> The Re-Accuring Villians
These are character thats story is told over three movies where they play different roles. For example like Magneto - we had 3 different movies about 3 different things but we saw them from Magnetos point of view as well. So in the first movie he was the main villian. Although in my oppinion he wasnt necessary a villian as a visionary. Magneto in the comics doesnt have much respect for humans so to turn everyone into a mutant was showing some respect on his part. However because itw as against other peoples will Magnetos dream was too forced and thus he became a villian, in x2, he had to side with those who were against him to save the mutant race from exstinction. But at that point has no respect for humans and then trys to kill all of them. By the third movie, the humans came up with a cure and that was the final insult for Magneto thus leading to Magnetos war... So as you can see as a villan his character can progress through more than one movie.

Here are some characters that can also be seen in that light...

Magneto, Sinister, Mystique, Sabretooth, Sebastian Shaw, Hellfire Club, Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants

> The Solo Story Villians

These are villians used only for the story at hand...

You could techincally class Stryker as a Solo villian although he as appeared in more than one movie. But say we only look at x1 to x3, the story of x2 was about wolverines past which Stryker was apart of, in that story that also introduced Lady Deathstrike. Usually these characters die in that movie or never seen again. Although stryker appeared in wovlerine spin off that makes his character sort of sit on the fence between solo and re-accuring.

Other characters like this is
Juggernaut, Calisto, Proteus, The High Evolutionary, Garrok, Sauron, Lady Deathstrike, Shadow King

> The Build Up Villians

Now with a build up villian these are usually characters at slowly manifest in a period of 3 movies, Usually the first movie has a hint, the second movie makes you aware of them, the third is the big reveal... Lets take phoenix for example... in the first movie the hint was when magnetos machine was destroyed and jean felt different for a second. It was a throw in missed by alot of people but that was the start of the phoenix. During x2, we have Jean display headaches, flame eyes, and at the end she burst into flames... although its not said, fans know its phoenix... then we get to x3 and there we go Phoenix...There isnt many characters like this that needs to be told over 3 movies but there are a few

Others like this is
Apocaylpse, Phoenix, Sentinals, Onslaught, Nimrod

Now with x-men first class... it all depends on where they want to go with it, is it a solo movie are they planing a second class and third class?

I think the sooner we learn what characters are going to appear in this movie the better we can gage the solo, re-accuring or trilogy aspect of it.

Retroman
06-20-2010, 05:47 PM
Eddie Redmayne denies he's in got a role in First Class.:o

From Broadway.com:
June 18, 2010 - 10:51AM

We keep hearing you’re going to be in the next X-Men movie.
No, that’s not true. There’s nothing more depressing than getting e-mails from your close friends and ex-girlfriends and various people in London going, “Congratulations on this!” And you go, “I wish it was true!” It’s not.

In a month, we’ll hear you’re in both of those movies.
I promise you, I’m not someone who lies in these scenarios [laughs]. You have my phone number now, and you have every right to call me [if I’m not telling the truth].
SOURCE (http://www.broadway.com/shows/red/buzz/152809/whats-up-eddie-redmayne-the-red-star-feels-like-an-excitable-child-after-his-tony-win/)

JP
06-20-2010, 06:11 PM
Guess he didn't get the part. Whatever part it was. Shame, he's really talented.

JP
06-21-2010, 12:05 AM
I found this video audition for First Class. The kid is using what appears to be casting sides for the film. He's auditioning for the role of "Derick", though that could easily be a code-name/fake name used for the side.

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And here's a kid auditioning for Erik [BTW he sucks!]
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TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 12:33 AM
Jeez, how do you look to find for this stuff?

and is this legal for these people to be posting those videos?

JP
06-21-2010, 12:59 AM
:ninja:

insane polaris
06-21-2010, 05:56 AM
I hope thats the real screenplay theyre reading, Because that first scene (video with the american) will be amazing.

TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 07:25 AM
Yeah, it sounds pretty good...

Seeing these auditions also illustrate just how difficult acting really is..

TheComicbookKid
06-21-2010, 08:29 AM
Audition tapes always look so terrible. I don't know how casting directors use them.

Electrix
06-21-2010, 08:32 AM
So if those auditions reflect the script:

1) Xavier inherited his mansion. 'Derick' could be Cyclops, who is taking issue with Xavier's methods. I suppose it could be another male student such as Banshee.

2) Xavier undertakes surgery on Eric.

3) Magneto is hunting someone called Vagner(?) who experimented on him and others.

4) There will be a bit of a culture clash between wealthy/aristocrat Charles and Magneto.

TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 09:22 AM
Hmmm...A mutant experimenter, eh?

marvelrobbins
06-21-2010, 09:46 AM
Assuming It Is not Nazis we could see Sinster.However audition slides are not always best to decode projects.Lost had people aduition with slides of being corporate People/Neogrators.

ChaoticPsylocke
06-21-2010, 10:13 AM
this is so cool! i hope we get more videos auditions

JP
06-21-2010, 10:49 AM
Yeah, many times the names of characters are changed for sides. Or, often times, the sides themself are not actually part of the script.

SuperT
06-21-2010, 12:05 PM
Wow! Really cool if that stuff is actually in the script. The scientist experimenting on mutants has me intrigued.

Mr. Sinister?

TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 01:06 PM
The introduction of a real X-Men supervillain aside from Magneto is due...Sinister is supposed to be a couple centuries old anyway, so they could definitely integrate him somewhere..

spidey-dude
06-21-2010, 02:31 PM
gonna try and have a look at the sets they are building tomorrow, see if its anything interesting

TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 02:55 PM
Maybe you'd post your findings in the location thread? I dunno..

spidey-dude
06-21-2010, 02:59 PM
ill post it in here

TheVelvetOnion
06-21-2010, 04:50 PM
Have some interesting news, i have a friend who is trying to be an actor, hes about 5ft 10 - dark brown hair, looks slightly italian, almost like that guy who plays Peter Petrelli in Heroes... anyway he went for an interview recently for a role in an action drama, they didnt say what the movie was about only that it was an action drama with a little bit of science fiction. The character he auditioned for was called, Sid - who was a bit of a jokster..."who can change his face to look like someone else" - He doesnt think he got the role but he is awaiting a call back.

But it got me thinking, did he just audition for the role of Morph in X-Men First Class? This is just speculation at this point but what made me think this was the character he auditioned for was called Sid, and Morphs real name is Kevin Sydney and his character has the ability to change his face... Now my friend isnt a fan of x-men so wouldnt probably connect the dots. And as i said ealier this is just a speculation... i mean all i know it could be a sequel to Dr.Parnasses where heath ledgers character went through face changes... But how cool would it be to have morph.

Retroman
06-21-2010, 05:07 PM
Nice finds JP.:up:

I liked that first scene with the rebelious mutant which seems like it could occur in the movie. But like others have said it probably is different from what is actually in the script. Maybe an early draft from one of the other writers?

Xavier's fancy car collection is mentioned though which we've already partly seen in the movies.
Have some interesting news, i have a friend who is trying to be an actor, hes about 5ft 10 - dark brown hair, looks slightly italian, almost like that guy who plays Peter Petrelli in Heroes... anyway he went for an interview recently for a role in an action drama, they didnt say what the movie was about only that it was an action drama with a little bit of science fiction. The character he auditioned for was called, Sid - who was a bit of a jokster..."who can change his face to look like someone else" - He doesnt think he got the role but he is awaiting a call back.

But it got me thinking, did he just audition for the role of Morph in X-Men First Class? This is just speculation at this point but what made me think this was the character he auditioned for was called Sid, and Morphs real name is Kevin Sydney and his character has the ability to change his face... Now my friend isnt a fan of x-men so wouldnt probably connect the dots. And as i said ealier this is just a speculation... i mean all i know it could be a sequel to Dr.Parnasses where heath ledgers character went through face changes... But how cool would it be to have morph.
Interesting stuff... sounds like Morph though we can't be certain.

Thanks for sharing this though.

TheVelvetOnion
06-21-2010, 06:34 PM
He's been on quiet a few auditions before, i dont really speak to him that often but he does keep me updated on his auditions as he knows i take an interest. If i remember rightly he auditioned for one of the harry potter movies once.

TNC9852002
06-21-2010, 09:07 PM
We've speculated earlier how having Morph/Changeling on the first team would make for a great story arc, as he is known in the comics to be the first X-Man to die in battle. It could really ignite the true eternal feud between Xavier and Magneto..

and although we've seen shapeshifters before, if he's in, I'm sure they'll find a way to make his effects look new and interesting...

squeekness
06-21-2010, 11:10 PM
Jeez, how do you look to find for this stuff?

and is this legal for these people to be posting those videos?I don't see why it would be illegal, it's not even close to being a finished product, and we don't know that what they are reading will even be included. I would love to see Taylor's readings for Gambit. :p

JP
06-22-2010, 11:41 AM
Interesting tweet from Mark Millar:

@AlexisPurple sure. Matthew's finishing X-men in April and then we'll jump onto Kick-Ass 2. We were chatting about it last week.
about 7 hours ago via web in reply to AlexisPurple

Perhaps that will ease the worry some people have that the film is being rushed... ha, doubt it. :p

Also, from his message board, here's what he said about Fassbender.

Matthew and I have been talking about this a lot over the past few weeks and he summed up the difficulty by pointing out that Magneto is the younger version of Britain's greatest actor. You can't just get somebody good. You have to get somebody BRILLIANT. His opening scene in this movie is just spectacular.

Fassbender is great. You could tell he was a star from the moment you saw him on 300...

MM
:awesome:

spidey-dude
06-22-2010, 01:05 PM
had a look around today but all the sets were properly closed, ill keep trying

interestingly i saw a sign saying "x-men first class, war room" near the costume department (which is up stairs in a building i dont really have access to)

JP
06-22-2010, 01:11 PM
Interesting. We haven't seen the War Room since X1, have we?

Electrix
06-22-2010, 01:55 PM
I suppose it could just be where Vaughn and everyone have their daily meetings :D

spidey-dude
06-22-2010, 01:59 PM
ye thats what i thought it might be cos the note was on a normal building nd not a stage

and it was in " marks

spidey-dude
06-22-2010, 02:00 PM
ye thats what i thought it might be cos the note was on a normal building nd not a stage

and it was in " marks

still thats all i got so far - im there all summer though

TNC9852002
06-22-2010, 02:42 PM
Yeah, that's the common name for production meeting rooms..

Nice work Spidey-dude!!

spidey-dude
06-22-2010, 05:24 PM
ah okay - i spoke with a mate who used to work there and he says noone cares if you just wonder onto a stage during the set building stage and just say you wanna have a look at it

so on thurs im gonna try that

Retroman
06-23-2010, 04:29 AM
Good stuff spidey-dude and JP.:up:

From the website of Sara Putt Associates which is a UK based company that represents clients across all areas of film and TV drama and entertainment.

X-MEN - FIRST CLASS

Before Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr took the names Professor X and Magneto, they were two young men discovering their powers for the first time... James McAvoy & Michael Fassbender take the roles respectively as prep continues at Pinewood Studios. Following on from 'Kick-Ass' our Editor Eddie Hamilton and Camera Operator/Storyboard Artist Pete Wignall are in their 2nd week of Matthew Vaughn's next epic.

21 June 2010
SOURCE (http://www.saraputt.co.uk/news/article/?id=318914)

Young Superman
06-23-2010, 05:19 AM
Sounds good to me.

Abraham
06-23-2010, 05:42 AM
Had completely written this film off, and the X-men in general but dammit if Vaughn and this amazing cast haven't got me back, kinda hope they drop Singer continuity entirely so I can watch these brilliant actors grow in the roles and take them to new places.

But yeah, Fassebender - Hell yes!

Doctor Jones
06-23-2010, 08:48 AM
It seems Fassenbender is confirmed. I can't wait to see those two play off eachother. Good lord.

TNC9852002
06-23-2010, 09:26 AM
Oh me oh my!

JP
06-25-2010, 09:45 PM
Just got a call to audition for a new mutant character in the next X-MEN movie! This should be interesting...
https://twitter.com/ericahosseini

Electrix
06-26-2010, 07:22 AM
Interesting indeed! According to Google she is a professional surfer and bikini model. I suppose she could be up for either Emma or Jean.

spidey-dude
06-26-2010, 10:32 AM
looked at the schedule and xmen kicks in to gear next week at the studios it seems - gonna try and see something, im determined

Electrix
06-26-2010, 04:50 PM
Richard Donner and Lauren Shuler Donner Talk GOONIES and DAVE Going to Broadway; DEADPOOL, X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, and Laura Wants to Produce WONDER WOMAN (http://www.collider.com/2010/06/25/richard-donner-laura-shuler-donner-interview-goonies-dave-broadway-deadpool-x-men-first-class-wonder-woman/)

topdog1
06-26-2010, 08:40 PM
Richard Donner and Lauren Shuler Donner Talk GOONIES and DAVE Going to Broadway; DEADPOOL, X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, and Laura Wants to Produce WONDER WOMAN (http://www.collider.com/2010/06/25/richard-donner-laura-shuler-donner-interview-goonies-dave-broadway-deadpool-x-men-first-class-wonder-woman/)

"Fans had issues" but Fox is changing.

Deadpool movie talk.

Bryan Singer fully on board and the First Class script is getting raves.

Hmmmmmm...

JP
06-27-2010, 06:25 PM
I didn't realize Jack Huston was Danny Huston's nephew. Hm.

Phoenix_Flare
06-27-2010, 08:25 PM
LOL...i like how their completly diss'n X3..."First Class is going to be like X1 and X2, character first" so I guess it's safe 2 assume that they, meaning Fox have finally admitted that their latest X-flicks were not that good...

but on the good note @least from the buzz of the script we are getting back 2 our roots, now hopefully we can have some kick ass action scenes...

TNC9852002
06-27-2010, 10:20 PM
Being "character first" doesn't mean much to me, IMO.

When I think of what I loved about the first two X-Men movies, it goes much further than just the characters--it dealt with the dialogue, the pacing, the tone, the humor, the locations, the action--everything had to work together.

X-Maniac
06-28-2010, 04:08 AM
Being "character first" doesn't mean much to me, IMO.

When I think of what I loved about the first two X-Men movies, it goes much further than just the characters--it dealt with the dialogue, the pacing, the tone, the humor, the locations, the action--everything had to work together.

I agree.

I will say, though, that there is a woeful lack of good dialogue in today's films.

The X-Men films (especially the first two, also the third, but not Wolverine) have had some memorable dialogue that is smart, fresh and full of meaning, giving a lot of insight in just a few sentences. Good, incisive dialogue will stay with me after a film far more than the explosions. I hope First Class has this too.

Judge Holden
06-28-2010, 05:15 AM
Wolverine had some pretty good dialogue too. Well actually i can only think of one line lol. From Bradley at the fairground. "It's not a trick man". With the way it was delivered, it was great. Showed a sadness to the character.

X-Maniac
06-28-2010, 05:53 AM
Wolverine had some pretty good dialogue too. Well actually i can only think of one line lol.

I rest my case. :oldrazz:

Judge Holden
06-28-2010, 05:56 AM
:D The Wade Wilson dialogue was good... but it was ad libbed by Reynolds so no brownie points to the writers on that one either!

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 06:36 AM
I really liked Bolt from Wolverine---he was one of the few characters that I felt sympathetic for even for that short time on screen...

Electrix
06-28-2010, 11:08 AM
They'd need to change him. A lot.

marvelrobbins
06-28-2010, 11:49 AM
Sorry but that Is just crazy.One of the worst villians ever.I stand by that.

Judge Holden
06-28-2010, 11:55 AM
The concept of the character is good. But the design is terrible and i really don't see an X-Men movie going into space or alternate dimensions.

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 12:25 PM
Space is one thing, but alternate dimensions...

ehhh...I dunno. It could work, but the tone of the movies would have to drastically change from what's been established--and I don't think that's gonna happen.

Maybe if Thor or Green Lantern nails that sort of reality could the X-Men ever go that far and still feel realistic.

Roy Batty
06-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Alice Eve in negotiations to play Emma Frost
http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/alice-eve-joins-x-men-first-class/

psyonic
06-28-2010, 01:11 PM
Alice Eve in negotiations to play Emma Frost
http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/alice-eve-joins-x-men-first-class/

I was hoping Rosamund Pike was going to play her! Darn .. :csad:

Chewy
06-28-2010, 01:13 PM
Between McAvoy, Fassbender, and Eve, this movie is starting to pique my interest.

I'm still not excited, as its Fox, but now I'm expecting something that is at least mildly entertaining as opposed to, say, X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Doctor Jones
06-28-2010, 01:17 PM
I think Fox is turning a new leaf. The A-Team was the first good movie from them in years, Predators seems to be in good shape, etc. We'll have to wait and see though.

Roy Batty
06-28-2010, 01:18 PM
I was hoping Rosamund Pike was going to play her! Darn .. :csad:

Isnt Rosamund Pike supposed to play Moira MacTaggart?

JP
06-28-2010, 01:21 PM
Yes, Pike is up for Moira.

OMG, when I saw Sex And The City 2 a few weeks ago I thought to myself "Alice Eve would be an amazing Emma Frost".

:awesome:

Chewy
06-28-2010, 01:25 PM
So this movie potentially features both Alice Eve AND Amber Heard in very revealing outfits. :awesome:

Roy Batty
06-28-2010, 01:26 PM
BTW Alice Eve has previously worked with James McAvoy in "Starter for Ten"

Electrix
06-28-2010, 01:46 PM
Cool news :up: I can't wait until we find out what these other characters will get up too. We know what Xavier and Magneto will be doing, but nothing has been revealed about Beast, Moira and now Emma Frost.

OptimusPrime114
06-28-2010, 02:03 PM
OMG! I actually wished that Alice Eve played Emma Frost!

TheComicbookKid
06-28-2010, 02:16 PM
She certainly fills the physical requirements,but I've never seen her play the stern type personality I associate with modern Emma. Oh, well. I'll have faith in Singer/Vaughn on this one.

chaseter
06-28-2010, 02:17 PM
I hope this film doesn't try to connect all the dots of the other 4 movies. Just start new please!

JP
06-28-2010, 02:20 PM
Confirmed by THR
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/06/alice-eve-cast-as-emma-frost-in-xmen-first-class.html

Superhero 101
06-28-2010, 02:24 PM
Pike would be nice as Frost but i wouldn't mind seeing Eve either she was really amazing in She's Out of My League

FaT_tONle
06-28-2010, 02:30 PM
I think Fox is turning a new leaf. The A-Team was the first good movie from them in years, Predators seems to be in good shape, etc. We'll have to wait and see though.

A-Team and Knight and Day flopped. They have done nothing noteworthy since Avatar. Outside of X-Men and some kiddy films, they haven't had a hit since ID4 really.

Space is one thing, but alternate dimensions...

ehhh...I dunno. It could work, but the tone of the movies would have to drastically change from what's been established--and I don't think that's gonna happen.

Maybe if Thor or Green Lantern nails that sort of reality could the X-Men ever go that far and still feel realistic.

FF has a bunch of alternate universes and extra dimension type stuff. If they combine the universe, I am sure they can work that into X-Men.

marvelrobbins
06-28-2010, 02:33 PM
She could pass as teenager.She was up for Peggy Carter In captain America but lost it.
One thing to consider Is Emma will be played by a far hotter actress than the one In Wolverine.

J.Howlett
06-28-2010, 02:36 PM
This doesn't sound like a true prequel to Singer's films. It feels like a straight reboot, considering the cast being assembled. Or I'm not looking at this film the right way. Some please, enlighten me because this thing is sounding really good.
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JP
06-28-2010, 02:36 PM
http://sublimefemme.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/alice-eve_vanities0705.jpg

Chewy
06-28-2010, 02:42 PM
Thank you JP

That picture should be posted in every thread, regardless of topic

chaseter
06-28-2010, 02:43 PM
This doesn't sound like a true prequel to Singer's films. It feels like a straight reboot, considering the cast being assembled. Or I'm not looking at this film the right way. Some please, enlighten me because this thing is sounding really good.
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I personally want it to be a reboot. I would rather a new series start the way the X-Men should have started and that is with the a true First Class adaptation instead of trying to connect all the convoluted dots that 4 movies have set up. Because it is going to be hard to do another trilogy while all the same time trying to adhere to the universe set up already.

marvelrobbins
06-28-2010, 03:02 PM
Bryan Singer devolped the story and Is producing.You don't hire the director
who started the series to devolp the story and oversee and pretend his films
didn't happen.Lauren Shuller Donner has compared this to X-Men and X2.
Plus Wolverine II Is coming In 2012.May I remind people the Idea of Xavier
and magneto starting the school came from the previous X-men films.
Plus If this was a reboot and not a prequel Xavier and Magneto would be
older actors and the film would not focus on them.This Is a prequel.
However I would not rule out Singer and matthew vaughn taking libities
with what was established In The last Stand and WOlverine.Go back and watch X-Men and X2 and you can see the Phoenix In The last Stand was
not what Singer was setting up in his films.At the same time I expect them to
not get Into how Cyclops and Emma come Into the school so they do not have to call back anything In Wolverine.And are any fan really going to complain too much If First Class takes libitiries with the Last Stand and Wolverine but more or less serves as prequel to X-Men and X2.

BMM
06-28-2010, 03:09 PM
A-Team and Knight and Day flopped. They have done nothing noteworthy since Avatar. Outside of X-Men and some kiddy films, they haven't had a hit since ID4 really.

:huh: Who cares if they flopped? That's not the point. The question is, regardless of box office, are they getting better?

marvelrobbins
06-28-2010, 03:16 PM
Plus there are talk going around Fox wants tot ry to emulate the success of Marvel Studios films,and have their Marvel films(X-Men,Fantastic Four,Daredevil) Exsist In the same universe.And the excitement for First class Is resembling X2 and not The last Stand
or Wolverine.Plus with Avatar as the number one film of all time(and unlike Star Wars they get to keep most of the profits) they can afford some loses.And Box office doesn't always mean better.The Last Stand Is the biggest Box Office of the X-Men film and do any consider It better than X2 or X-Men?

TheVelvetOnion
06-28-2010, 03:24 PM
I think so far they hae picked some good choices...

DocHoliday
06-28-2010, 03:44 PM
with Emma in the film might we get the Hellfire Club?

danoyse
06-28-2010, 03:54 PM
:huh: Who cares if they flopped? That's not the point. The question is, regardless of box office, are they getting better?

Exactly. The A-Team was really good (and I say that as a big fan of the original series), and I've heard some decent things about Knight & Day, regardless of the anti-Cruise sentiment out there.

marvelrobbins
06-28-2010, 04:01 PM
Knight and Day's box office was because of Cruise.He alone can not make
a hit anymore.Bryan Singer was able to make a decent box office out of
Valkrye but that was not just a cruise film.It reamins to be seen how this
will affect Mission Impossible IV but that Is getting made because J.J. Abrams
Is producing with Cruise.

I have not seen The A-Team yet but buzz has been this Is a decent
adaptian of a TV show,and one that those who watched the show can enjoy the film and not get pissed off by it.It got lost In the summer films.

Raiden
06-28-2010, 04:02 PM
Alice Eve in negotiations to play Emma Frost
http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/alice-eve-joins-x-men-first-class/

Personally, I think this is a great casting move, because Eve is not only sexy enough to play Frost, but I think Eve looks like a hot blonde who can also pull her own weight. But I read from SHH's article (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/103114-alice-eve-in-talks-to-play-emma-frost-in-x-men-first-class) that James McAvoy is playing Prof. Xavier? I guess I'm not keeping up with the casting news, but isn't McAvoy around the same age as Eve? I thought Xavier and Magneto should be significantly older than other X-Men, unless Emma Frost will be in the Hellfire Club but even then she should still be much younger than Xavier imo.

DocHoliday
06-28-2010, 04:27 PM
Well we know Singer's original vision for X-Men 3 had Sigourney Weaver as an old flame version of Xavier's. Maybe he is holding to that. *shrugs* I personally think the Hellfire Club would be a good villain for this film. Inner Circle involves chess references and since this film is about Magneto/Xavier's relationship (which chess was prominent in X1-3).

psyonic
06-28-2010, 04:31 PM
According to Shuler-Donner, filming will begin in August, do you think will we see a trailer by Christmas? I remember we that we got a trailer for X3 in December 05' and X3 was out on May 26 06'. I kind of want to see a names trailer again like what they did for X1 and X2. I'm hoping First Class will surpass X2 in quality! :awesome:

psyonic
06-28-2010, 04:40 PM
Well we know Singer's original vision for X-Men 3 had Sigourney Weaver as an old flame version of Xavier's. Maybe he is holding to that. *shrugs* I personally think the Hellfire Club would be a good villain for this film. Inner Circle involves chess references and since this film is about Magneto/Xavier's relationship (which chess was prominent in X1-3).

That's a really good idea, First Class has a chance to establish future story lines post X3. Set up the Hellfire Club's story in FC then follow up X3 with their return along with a resurrected Dark Phoenix. A true to the comics one. There were hints of Sebastian Shaw in X2 i.e. on tv and Shaw Industries so it wouldn't feel tacked on since the "seeds" were planted.

If they go that route, they can really fix their poor story telling in X3. That's what I would do if it were up to me.

batboy99
06-28-2010, 04:43 PM
Eve would be a GREAT Frost. She really resembles the character. And i only saw a little of Shes out of my League, but I really liked her in the movie from what I saw.

Electrix
06-28-2010, 05:08 PM
According to Shuler-Donner, filming will begin in August, do you think will we see a trailer by Christmas? I remember we that we got a trailer for X3 in December 05' and X3 was out on May 26 06'. I kind of want to see a names trailer again like what they did for X1 and X2.

20th Century Fox have two movies out in December. Gulliver's Travels (22nd) and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (10th). I'm sure Vaughn could have a little something ready for then :D

X-Maniac
06-28-2010, 05:10 PM
A-Team and Knight and Day flopped. They have done nothing noteworthy since Avatar. Outside of X-Men and some kiddy films, they haven't had a hit since ID4 really.

i think "flop" is a premature description, considering they haven't even been released yet in the UK. The A-Team doesn't come out here until July 28 and Knight and Day not until August.

Although their US performance admittedly wasn't a No 1 knockout, there's a long way to go before the word "flop" can be applied.

DocHoliday
06-28-2010, 05:57 PM
Seeing the A-Team this week...heard good things about it and it has a 7.5/10 on imdb

Raiden
06-28-2010, 06:04 PM
Seeing the A-Team this week...heard good things about it and it has a 7.5/10 on imdb

I saw A-Team and I think the movie is a blast, and I don't think it deserves such a lukewarm box office reception. Hopefully the international box office will help making its budget back, and then some.

gap5ewl
06-28-2010, 06:23 PM
Damn, I am loving all of this casting news. Let's hope she gets the part of Frost.:up:

Lightning Strykez!
06-28-2010, 06:45 PM
Alice Eve possibly cast as THE WHITE QUEEN??? :eek::up:

If this proves true, we may be looking at one of the most inspired casting choices of this production thusfar. Me likey. A LOTZ.

JP
06-28-2010, 06:47 PM
Damn, I am loving all of this casting news. Let's hope she gets the part of Frost.:up:

Well, she has the part. It's just about getting all the dots signed.

DarkSovereignty
06-28-2010, 06:52 PM
this film shaping up rather nicely, dare i say it...it potentially be awesome.

Figs
06-28-2010, 06:56 PM
I haven't spent too much time in here since the film hasn't started shooting yet so forgive me if someone already brought this up.

I had mentioned some pages back that after seeing their trouble with taking out Magneto in X1, villians like Apocalypse would be too much for a First Class group. I'm starting to wonder if the bad guy/s will be the Hellfire Club. I didn't really know until this casting news hit that White Queen/Emma Frost was in fact going to be in this film.

I think the Hellfire Club if not overdone could be a pretty good threat for the young X-men as opposed to someone who's crazy strong like Apoc.

mclay18
06-28-2010, 07:05 PM
Alice Eve is both a hottie and a talented actress. But what is with Vaughn casting all these Brits in the movie? I hope he casts the American roles with U.S. actors, or at least consider them.

JP
06-28-2010, 07:24 PM
Alice Eve is both a hottie and a talented actress. But what is with Vaughn casting all these Brits in the movie? I hope he casts the American roles with U.S. actors, or at least consider them.

Except Alice Eve is the only confirmed Brit.

McAvoy is Scottish, Fassbender is German/Irish, and Walker is American.
:cwink:

Electrix
06-28-2010, 07:29 PM
Alice Eve is both a hottie and a talented actress. But what is with Vaughn casting all these Brits in the movie? I hope he casts the American roles with U.S. actors, or at least consider them.

He's cast Benjamin Walker as Beast, who is American.

To be honest the only Americans part of the main previous cast were James Marsden, Rebecca Romijn and Halle Berry. Then Kelsey Grammer in X3. Being American obviously isn't a requirement.

Hell, there are 3 British actors up for the role of Spider-Man at the moment.

Chewy
06-28-2010, 07:35 PM
Except Alice Eve is the only confirmed Brit.

McAvoy is Scottish, Fassbender is German/Irish, and Walker is American.
:cwink:
Everyone knows that all non-American actors are British.

FaT_tONle
06-28-2010, 07:47 PM
:huh: Who cares if they flopped? That's not the point. The question is, regardless of box office, are they getting better?

The reviews were mixed at best. And if the numbers were at least decent, we could say it was enjoyed by the masses. A couple of people may have liked it, doesn't mean it's the beginning of a revolution and a total change of direction for Fox films.

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 09:04 PM
Alice Eve in negotiations to play Emma Frost
http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/alice-eve-joins-x-men-first-class/
My god was Alice Eve smoking hot in She's Out of My League...She seems a little short and stout to play Emma, who I picture as being more of a taller, slender type of diva.. :p

I think Fox is turning a new leaf. The A-Team was the first good movie from them in years, Predators seems to be in good shape, etc. We'll have to wait and see though.
Well, now FOX in general has always been up and down with their films, so, using A-Team as a gauge is not really a good indicator of that. Tooth Fairy=dud, Percy Jackson & the Olympians=decent, Date Night=pretty good, Marmaduke=TERRIBLE.

I'd stick with comparing just the comic book adaptations and leave the general films out of it.

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 09:11 PM
This doesn't sound like a true prequel to Singer's films. It feels like a straight reboot, considering the cast being assembled. Or I'm not looking at this film the right way. Some please, enlighten me because this thing is sounding really good.
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Yeah, I'm still hankering on the idea of this movie being a PREBOOT and not a direct prequel to the series...Maybe I just don't see how and when they'll be moving the characters around between the time periods..

I personally want it to be a reboot. I would rather a new series start the way the X-Men should have started and that is with the a true First Class adaptation instead of trying to connect all the convoluted dots that 4 movies have set up. Because it is going to be hard to do another trilogy while all the same time trying to adhere to the universe set up already.
It really didn't start to really get convoluted until XMO:Wolverine and even that wasn't too bad. I've only just now started to get a little worried about how they're going to tie everything together without disrupting the continuity too much..

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 09:26 PM
Exactly. The A-Team was really good (and I say that as a big fan of the original series), and I've heard some decent things about Knight & Day, regardless of the anti-Cruise sentiment out there.

Seeing the A-Team this week...heard good things about it and it has a 7.5/10 on imdb

I saw A-Team and I think the movie is a blast, and I don't think it deserves such a lukewarm box office reception. Hopefully the international box office will help making its budget back, and then some.
Yeah, I think A-Team was everything you wanted out of a summer blockbuster. I would definitely go see a sequel..

TNC9852002
06-28-2010, 11:33 PM
Still...no household names yet..

I'm starting to think that this movie won't be able to afford any... :(

Rac
06-28-2010, 11:37 PM
Personally, I think this is a great casting move, because Eve is not only sexy enough to play Frost, but I think Eve looks like a hot blonde who can also pull her own weight. But I read from SHH's article (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/103114-alice-eve-in-talks-to-play-emma-frost-in-x-men-first-class) that James McAvoy is playing Prof. Xavier? I guess I'm not keeping up with the casting news, but isn't McAvoy around the same age as Eve? I thought Xavier and Magneto should be significantly older than other X-Men, unless Emma Frost will be in the Hellfire Club but even then she should still be much younger than Xavier imo.
McAvoy is 31, Eve 28. So yeah, around thirties both.

Alice Eve is both a hottie and a talented actress. But what is with Vaughn casting all these Brits in the movie? I hope he casts the American roles with U.S. actors, or at least consider them.
Because he's British? Because they are filming in the UK? Because Emma is supposed to have a British accent? Because British actors are usually better than Americans? :oldrazz:

mclay18
06-28-2010, 11:53 PM
Because he's British? Because they are filming in the UK? Because Emma is supposed to have a British accent? Because British actors are usually better than Americans? :oldrazz:

I expect a UK-dominated cast (save for Kick-Ass), since this is a Vaughn film after all. But at least they should exhaust casting for U.S. actors for American roles before using UK actors.

I'm not against UK actors, it's just that there are plenty of unknown actors out there from the U.S. that deserve a shot. I'm not against Fassbender, McAvoy and Eve joining the cast -- since they are good actors and are easy on the eyes.

psyonic
06-29-2010, 12:04 AM
Any deets on the budget?

JP
06-29-2010, 12:56 AM
Still...no household names yet..

I'm starting to think that this movie won't be able to afford any... :(

I'd like to know when the X-Men franchise ever had "household" names in them. . .

JP
06-29-2010, 01:08 AM
El Mayimbe here...

Earlier today it was reported that Alice Eve was in negotiations to play Emma Frost in "X-Men: First Class." Well, I can't let Mike Fleming have all the fun.

According to my trusted sources, I hear that Caleb Landry Jones is the top contender to bag the role of Sean Cassidy aka BANSHEE.

Who?

The kid on the bike in No Country For Old Men. Still not familiar?

Jones did a stint on "FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS" and is in the upcoming film "THE LAST EXORCISM."
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-the-top-contender-for-the-role-of-banshee-in-x-men-first-class-is-10339

Slim_X
06-29-2010, 02:24 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-the-top-contender-for-the-role-of-banshee-in-x-men-first-class-is-10339

wtf?

illest urban
06-29-2010, 02:54 AM
^ what he said. ****sweak!

Rac
06-29-2010, 03:12 AM
21 year old Banshee, huh?

Slim_X
06-29-2010, 03:24 AM
so... the boy is 21 years old. didn't Banshee, Moira and Xavier have a love triangle??...i don't remember.

anyhow, i suppose that's the age range they're going for the rest of the X-Men.

Rac
06-29-2010, 03:33 AM
so... the boy is 21 years old. didn't Banshee, Moira and Xavier have a love triangle??...i don't remember.

anyhow, i suppose that's the age range they're going for the rest of the X-Men.
Banshee fall in love with Moira, but I'm not sure was there a love triangle. More than likely though.

bert19
06-29-2010, 05:35 AM
Except Alice Eve is the only confirmed Brit.

McAvoy is Scottish, Fassbender is German/Irish, and Walker is American.
:cwink:

Err, Scotland is in Britain.....

Alice Eve is English.

merbass
06-29-2010, 06:16 AM
This movie has many casts from United Kingdom while Wolverine has many Australians especially extras and background characters.

TNC9852002
06-29-2010, 07:16 AM
I'd like to know when the X-Men franchise ever had "household" names in them. . .
I'm pretty sure back in 2000 there were few people that didn't recognize Halle Berry or Patrick Stewart.

I will admit, looking back, the X-Men franchise were never filled with stars per se, but in comparison to even the first films, the cast here doesn't seem to contain the same kind of stardom in its lineup so far...

I suppose it's not a bad thing--I would take talent over stardom nine times out of ten, but I would've expected a more recogizable face to pop up by now..

Electrix
06-29-2010, 08:05 AM
X-Men: First Class doesn't need any famous names, and people have stopped going to movies purely because certain actors or actresses are in them (unless you're Johnny Depp).

The two leads are taken, so if they do get someone well known it might be for the villain.

TheComicbookKid
06-29-2010, 08:46 AM
I wouldn't make too much of this. If someone told you Coloussus was cast in X2, that didn't automatically mean he was going to get 20 minutes screen time(as he didn't). He may just be an assistant or patient of Muir Island when Xavier visits Moira. This is supposed to cover the time when people were discovering mutants.

TNC9852002
06-29-2010, 09:02 AM
X-Men: First Class doesn't need any famous names, and people have stopped going to movies purely because certain actors or actresses are in them (unless you're Johnny Depp).

The two leads are taken, so if they do get someone well known it might be for the villain.
I agree that it doesn't need any famous names--I'm just surprised that it doesn't have any just yet.

and is there any irrevocable proof that people are actually not going to see movies due to certain actors or actresses? A bias against a certain director or movie genre makes sense, but I don't know about individual actors/actresses.

chaseter
06-29-2010, 09:26 AM
Bryan Singer devolped the story and Is producing.You don't hire the director
who started the series to devolp the story and oversee and pretend his films
didn't happen.Lauren Shuller Donner has compared this to X-Men and X2.
Plus Wolverine II Is coming In 2012.May I remind people the Idea of Xavier
and magneto starting the school came from the previous X-men films.
Plus If this was a reboot and not a prequel Xavier and Magneto would be
older actors and the film would not focus on them.This Is a prequel.
However I would not rule out Singer and matthew vaughn taking libities
with what was established In The last Stand and WOlverine.Go back and watch X-Men and X2 and you can see the Phoenix In The last Stand was
not what Singer was setting up in his films.At the same time I expect them to
not get Into how Cyclops and Emma come Into the school so they do not have to call back anything In Wolverine.And are any fan really going to complain too much If First Class takes libitiries with the Last Stand and Wolverine but more or less serves as prequel to X-Men and X2.

There is a point when bending to what has been established in 4 previous movies and setting groundwork for even more future movies gets convoluted and messy. Wolverine already showed that. Trying to make this prequel into prequel trilogy is going to be hard.

I don't want them hampered by anything that they didn't set up as Vaughn and Singer were not involved with X3 or Wolverine. They shouldn't have to have their creativity stifled because of something set up in Wolverine.

If they take liberties as you mention then that is great. They already are as Patrick Stewart was in Wolverine but now is not in this prequel even though the prequel is after the events of Wolverine. I think if they start fresh and don't let Wolverine or X3 dictate their movie to keep continuity then that would be great. If they had Angel and Iceman in First Class, I wouldn't ***** and moan. But if they are thinking...well Angel was in X3 so he can't be in this...then quality comes into question.

Electrix
06-29-2010, 09:28 AM
I agree that it doesn't need any famous names--I'm just surprised that it doesn't have any just yet.

and is there any irrevocable proof that people are actually not going to see movies due to certain actors or actresses? A bias against a certain director or movie genre makes sense, but I don't know about individual actors/actresses.

I meant in the sense that the 'movie star' is dead. Big name actors don't automatically mean a big box office, which was usually the rule in the past.

chaseter
06-29-2010, 09:33 AM
It really didn't start to really get convoluted until XMO:Wolverine and even that wasn't too bad. I've only just now started to get a little worried about how they're going to tie everything together without disrupting the continuity too much..
That is exactly what I am scared of. I don't want their creativity to be hampered by having to connect millions of dots. I just want them basically to do whatever they want to do. I don't want Fox suits saying you can't have Angel be in the movie because he didn't show up until X3. That is why I am not against a reboot. If starting new allows them to have full creative control then do it!

I love X1 and X2 so me saying to disregard those movie and start new...you know I want this movie to be good.:cwink: This one has a chance to be good unlike X3 and Wolverine and more than likely unlike Wolverine 2.

X-Maniac
06-29-2010, 09:37 AM
That is exactly what I am scared of. I don't want their creativity to be hampered by having to connect millions of dots. I just want them basically to do whatever they want to do. I don't want Fox suits saying you can't have Angel be in the movie because he didn't show up until X3. That is why I am not against a reboot. If starting new allows them to have full creative control then do it!

I love X1 and X2 so me saying to disregard those movie and start new...you know I want this movie to be good.:cwink: This one has a chance to be good unlike X3 and Wolverine and more than likely unlike Wolverine 2.

I find this to be totally hypocritical. You are the first person to make a fuss - and the one who makes the most fuss, listing gazillions of 'plotholes' in total OCD melodrama - when things aren't aligned exactly.

chaseter
06-29-2010, 09:43 AM
I find this to be totally hypocritical. You are the first person to make a fuss - and the one who makes the most fuss, listing gazillions of 'plotholes' in total OCD melodrama - when things aren't aligned exactly.

If you are going to make all of these movies connect, then yes...the plot holes need to be addressed:huh: If you want to adhere to the continuity set up by previous films then you have to do it right. Wolverine just sort of half-assed it and the plot holes in that movie were painfully obvious. If this movie wants to connect some things and not other things, then there are going to be more painfully obvious plot holes. You either start fresh or you do it right. That is film making 101.

X-Maniac
06-29-2010, 10:00 AM
If you are going to make all of these movies connect, then yes...the plot holes need to be addressed:huh: If you want to adhere to the continuity set up by previous films then you have to do it right. Wolverine just sort of half-assed it and the plot holes in that movie were painfully obvious. If this movie wants to connect some things and not other things, then there are going to be more painfully obvious plot holes. You either start fresh or you do it right. That is film making 101.

That's a rather hardline 'all or nothing' approach.

The James Bond films turned M into a woman since 1995 and no one made a big fuss.

And I don't agree there were 'painfully obvious' plotholes in Wolverine either. Any variations like the look of the adamantium room between X2 and Wolverine weren't even noticed by non-obsessive mainstream viewers, nor did they notice the X-ray in X1 didn't show a bullet hole. I know for sure of two instances of people who thought Wolverine matched perfectly to the other films when they watched them back to back; notably, both of those people are not obsessives who rake over the coals on forums like this!

Rather than starting from scratch so soon after Wolverine's release and, for instance, putting Angel and Iceman as some of the first students - which would likely cause more confusion to the mainstream than omitting them - they will likely tie things in as best as they can to suit the story they want to tell.

Completely connecting every little dot is not going to be possible, even though X-Men enthusiasts on here would like it to be so. I would like as many connections as possible to be made, but I realise there will have to be some discrepancies because these films haven't been conceived and mapped out as one saga from the beginning.

People like you are never going to be satisified, let's face it. You scroll through movies searching for variations in stubble growth between frames, so they will never make you 100 per cent happy.

Blackman
06-29-2010, 10:00 AM
wait I'm confused:huh:. Isnt this film meant to be a prequel to the original series?

I thought so at first, but then I was confused that they cast MAgneto and Xavier so young. I wasnt mad because I love Fassbender and McAvoy, but it still kind of confused me

But now I'm confused that they are trying to cast Alice Eve as Emma Frost, when in XMO:W she was around the same age as Scott Summers who (if they are following continuity) is supposed to be high school age, right?
And isnt a love triangle between Jean/Scott/Emma a big part of First Class? Eve doesnt even look like she can play a high schooler or even college student. Is Scott going to be high school age this time around? Is anybody?

Arent the First Class students supposed to mostly be in high school save for Beast?

Also is Amber Heard confirmed to be Mystique? Because that would be awesome


and as far as casting, Eve seems like the weakest one that has been cast or rumored. She really doesnt have, or at least hasnt shown, the charisma, that I think would be required to play Frost

Electrix
06-29-2010, 10:28 AM
But now I'm confused that they are trying to cast Alice Eve as Emma Frost, when in XMO:W she was around the same age as Scott Summers who (if they are following continuity) is supposed to be high school age, right?
And isnt a love triangle between Jean/Scott/Emma a big part of First Class? Eve doesnt even look like she can play a high schooler or even college student. Is Scott going to be high school age this time around? Is anybody?

They are probably ignoring the 2 minutes of screentime a woman with blonde hair who turned into diamond was in Wolverine. They just threw her in there because they could, where as with First Class she will probably have a purpose.

The Jean/Scott/Emma triangle hasn't really been talked about for First Class so nobody knows whether it is in or not.

Rac
06-29-2010, 10:31 AM
These are from June 15th and 18th, but I searched the thread for "Jasmine Dustin" with no results. Sorry, if these are posted already.

CBM (http://www.**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=19169) caught wind of actress/model Jasmine Dustin tweeting she had auditioned for the role of young a Raven Darkholme (Mystique). Which could mean that Amber Heard is more than likely inline for Jean Grey or Emma Frost (if they're including her).

http://celluloidandcigaretteburns.blogspot.com/2010/06/more-auditions-for-x-men-first-class.htmlShe probably deleted that tweet because the only one I can find is this (also cbm.com doesn't open for me. they apparently have a screenshot of the tweet?):

Big audition tomorrow for the new X-MEN movie! 1:09 AM Jun 15th (http://twitter.com/JasmineDustin/status/16179457908) via mobile web (http://mobile.twitter.com/)

http://twitter.com/JasmineDustin/status/16179457908----

Oh, and I think it would have been cooler if Eddie Redmayne would have gotten the role of Banshee (or did he...? We don't know anything! I know he has denied everything...). He's older too than this new kid. Great comparison pic posted by celluloidandcigaretteburns:

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/5058/xfc001.jpg

chaseter
06-29-2010, 10:42 AM
That's a rather hardline 'all or nothing' approach.

The James Bond films turned M into a woman since 1995 and no one made a big fuss.

And I don't agree there were 'painfully obvious' plotholes in Wolverine either. Any variations like the look of the adamantium room Between X2 and Wolverine weren't even noticed by non-obsessive mainstream viewers, nor did they notice the X-ray in X1 didn't show a bullet hole. I know for sure of two instances of people who thought Wolverine matched perfectly to the other films when they watched them back to back; notably, both of those people are not obsessives who rake over the coals on forums like this!

Rather than starting from scratch so soon after Wolverine's release and putting Angel and Iceman as some of the first students - which would likely cause more confusion to the mainstream than omitting them - they will likely tie things in as best as they can to suit the story they want to tell.

Completely connecting every little dot is not going to be possible, even though X-Men enthusiasts on here would like it to be so. I would like as many connections as possible to be made, but I realise there will have to be some discrepancies because these films haven't been conceived as one saga from the beginning.

People like you are never going to be satisified, let's face it. You scroll through movies searching for variations in stubble growth between frames, so they will never make you 100 per cent happy.

You would have more weight on your side if X3 and Wolverine were critically acclaimed and made a lot more money than their predecessors. They didn't.

If you want the recent trend concerning X-Men movies to continue then by all means more power to you:dry: I guess not being happy with a movie, Wolverine, that barely makes more than the first movie that started this series and is critically panned means I am not 100 'per cent' happy. I guess you are a villain on these boards for demanding quality.:whatever:

I want the X-Men movies to be good again. I don't want Singer and Vaughn to be forced to adhere to frankly mediocre movies that could drag down their movie. I don't want suits telling them what they need to connect. That is why a reboot shouldn't be such a taboo subject when the movies before this one where 2:4 in the eyes of most critics and fans.

SuperT
06-29-2010, 11:23 AM
Great news about Banshee!! Glad he's in this!

I'm not too hung up about continuity issues, in fact, I wouldn't care if they just completely ignored Wolverine altogether. That movie jumbled up characters and continuity that I'm sure most people wouldn't give a damn if it was ignored. I think as long as First Class and any sequel's after it tie into the first three X-Men movies, it'll be great!!

I'm still completely shocked that we are getting all this casting news but we haven't heard a single peep on casting for Cyclops, Jean or Storm! Weird!

chaseter
06-29-2010, 11:41 AM
I know! They usually cast the leads and then build around that but McCavoy may be the lead in this movie and I could see that being so. I think he will be the lead character.

akfj
06-29-2010, 12:24 PM
Edit: nevermind

The Batman
06-29-2010, 12:26 PM
This movie is a prequel to the original trilogy. As crappy as X3 is, ANGEL CANT BE IN THE MOVIE, NEITHER CAN ICEMAN.

chaseter
06-29-2010, 12:59 PM
I don't think they will stop at this being just a prequel. I think they will shoot for another trilogy. It would be a waste to take time casting all new people for just one movie.

TNC9852002
06-29-2010, 01:02 PM
I wonder if they'll make a joke about other mutants that could have showed up..

Xavier: "There could even be mutants out there with powers capable of freezing our warmest oceans, having flight like a bird, or never growing old with age."

Squidboy
06-29-2010, 01:22 PM
Great news about Banshee!! Glad he's in this!

I'm not too hung up about continuity issues, in fact, I wouldn't care if they just completely ignored Wolverine altogether. That movie jumbled up characters and continuity that I'm sure most people wouldn't give a damn if it was ignored. I think as long as First Class and any sequel's after it tie into the first three X-Men movies, it'll be great!!

I'm still completely shocked that we are getting all this casting news but we haven't heard a single peep on casting for Cyclops, Jean or Storm! Weird!

I'm pretty sure that's the approach with Deadpool's movie, so I guess skillfully ignoring some of the less desirable points of Wolverine (and maybe the rest of the series) will help to make this movie the best that it could be, as opposed to the best prequel to X-MEN that it could be.

SuperT
06-29-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't think they will stop at this being just a prequel. I think they will shoot for another trilogy. It would be a waste to take time casting all new people for just one movie.

Well, just because it's a prequel doesn't mean there can't be sequels to it. There are plenty of story potential that could have taken place with the first class before the events in the first X-Men trilogy occured.

Kinda like the Stars Wars prequels, but hopefully better? lol

SuperT
06-29-2010, 01:56 PM
I don't think they will stop at this being just a prequel. I think they will shoot for another trilogy. It would be a waste to take time casting all new people for just one movie.

Well, just because it's a prequel doesn't mean there can't be sequels to it. There are plenty of story potential that could have taken place with the first class before the events in the first X-Men trilogy occured.

Kinda like the Stars Wars prequels, but hopefully better? lol

chaseter
06-29-2010, 02:12 PM
The Star Wars prequels sucked because they tried to hard to connect all the dots that the original trilogy laid and introduce new characters and plots that had to be resolved by the end, and of course Lucas went way overboard...I mean way overboard. That made everything contrived and forced and of course horrible characters were introduced. But, everyone knew what would happen so those movies kinda sucked. We all knew Padme would die. We all knew all the bad guys that weren't in the original would die. We all knew who the emperor was. It just had no mystique and suspense that the original trilogy had.

If this goes into a trilogy and tries to keep with continuity, that is connecting 7 movies together and 8 counting Wolverine 2. That is a lot. It changes a lot for future movies because they then have to adhere to all those plot points and bring in lame characters like Star Wars 1-3 did to fill the movie.

JP
06-29-2010, 03:23 PM
I think the Star Wars prequels sucked because they took an extremely simplistic story and tried to expand it over the course of three films.

X-Maniac
06-29-2010, 03:38 PM
You would have more weight on your side if X3 and Wolverine were critically acclaimed and made a lot more money than their predecessors. They didn't.

If you want the recent trend concerning X-Men movies to continue then by all means more power to you:dry: I guess not being happy with a movie, Wolverine, that barely makes more than the first movie that started this series and is critically panned means I am not 100 'per cent' happy. I guess you are a villain on these boards for demanding quality.:whatever:

I want the X-Men movies to be good again. I don't want Singer and Vaughn to be forced to adhere to frankly mediocre movies that could drag down their movie. I don't want suits telling them what they need to connect. That is why a reboot shouldn't be such a taboo subject when the movies before this one where 2:4 in the eyes of most critics and fans.

Your argument makes no sense at all.

Whether they connect the dots has nothing whatsoever to do with the critical reception for X3 and Wolverine.

So you want them to connect the dots to X1 and X2 only? I don't think that's what you are saying because you want a total reboot that ignores all the films.

So your formula for quality is to NOT connect the dots? How does that guarantee quality?

You also wanted Wolverine to be a reboot that didn't connect the dots. How much sense would it made, for instance, to have had him get his adamantium in some other part of the world altogether and for it not be done by Stryker? Would that have made the film any better in your eyes? Would that have improved quality? No, it wouldn't. Any issues with the quality of Wolverine had nothing to do with its adherence to the clues laid down in the previous films.

I can tell you now that I wouldn't mind a reboot or a prequel, it doesn't matter that much to me as long as it's described as one or the other so I know what I'm about to watch.

It has, however, so far been called a prequel and, with Bryan Singer on board, it suggests there will be connections to the previous films he directed, or they would get someone else altogether. If they come out and announce it's a total restart, then fine, we can all take that on board and expect big changes.

insane polaris
06-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Can someone please list these Plotholes people keep mentioning... cos I dont personally think there are that many.

Squidboy
06-29-2010, 03:49 PM
I think it's safe to say that until the day Hugh Jackman leaves the X-Men franchise, Fox isn't going to dare to outright reboot the movies. Unless they want to have Jackman's Wolverine be in his own little universe (like a Freddy vs. Jason situation) or just recast him in the reboot universe, there would be problems developing a Wolverine 2 while also claiming to reboot the X-Men films.

chaseter
06-29-2010, 04:30 PM
I like Jackman as an actor and as a person but after Wolverine, I am ready for him to hang up the claws.

JP
06-29-2010, 05:35 PM
They're casting a younger Xavier.

It was announced that James McAvoy will play the young Professor X in the X-Men prequel at the end of May, and casting is now underway for a 10-12 year old boy with blue eyes to play his even younger self.

The film is set to start shooting in London in August, and the studio has set a June 3rd 2011 release date.
http://screenterrier.blogspot.com/2010/06/x-men-first-class.html

Squidboy
06-29-2010, 05:47 PM
I like Jackman as an actor and as a person but after Wolverine, I am ready for him to hang up the claws.

Yeah, I appreciate his excitement and devotion to the character, but unless a sequel completely blows away any previous criticism, Hugh should give up the ghost and hope he could latch onto another good role that he could focus all his passion and energy on.

They're casting a younger Xavier.


http://screenterrier.blogspot.com/2010/06/x-men-first-class.html

I guess we might be seeing Xavier's power manifestation - very good news.

X-Maniac
06-29-2010, 06:18 PM
They're casting a younger Xavier.


http://screenterrier.blogspot.com/2010/06/x-men-first-class.html

Well spotted, you're hot at finding this stuff...

Chewy
06-29-2010, 06:37 PM
They're casting a younger Xavier.


http://screenterrier.blogspot.com/2010/06/x-men-first-class.html
Wonder if they'll include the Juggernaut backstory

danoyse
06-29-2010, 06:39 PM
Yeah, I appreciate his excitement and devotion to the character, but unless a sequel completely blows away any previous criticism, Hugh should give up the ghost and hope he could latch onto another good role that he could focus all his passion and energy on.

I only want a sequel if something like this Vaughn/Singer collaboration for First Class is putting it together, because this movie just keeps looking better and better. Otherwise I'm not really interested in another Wolverine movie if it's going to be just like the last one. I think he can still do it, he's just had terrible material for the last 2 films.

Doctor Jones
06-29-2010, 06:40 PM
Replacing Jackman is going to be damn hard. He's appeared as Logan four times already, and another is a possibility.

I just wonder if audiences can accept another Wolverine or one who can be a great one like Jackman was.

marvelrobbins
06-29-2010, 07:00 PM
The Star Trek Compassions look like a good one since they are casting Xavier as a boy.I told people they should not assume this film takes place In One
time peroid.If this Is cross between Star Trek and X2 we have a great
film on our hands.

danoyse
06-29-2010, 07:09 PM
They're casting a younger Xavier.


http://screenterrier.blogspot.com/2010/06/x-men-first-class.html

Wow. I wonder if they're casting a younger Magneto and plan to revisit some of the WWII stuff from the first film?

I just wonder if audiences can accept another Wolverine or one who can be a great one like Jackman was.

I saw Hugh last year in NYC and some guy walking by yelled "WOLVERINE!!" loud enough to make me jump, and I was wearing headphones at the time. :doh:

However...let's take Wolverine sequel talk to the Wolverine 2 forum, and leave this for the First Class talk.

Doctor Jones
06-29-2010, 07:15 PM
I'm just glad we will get to see the X-Men shine. Don't get me wrong, I didn't mind that Wolverine was the center of the film, but in the third, we all know he should have taken the back seat to Cyclops. It was the perfect opportunity.

But the fact we could see a competent and leader Cyclops in this film is cool to think about. Although they might focus on the Xavier/Magneto relationship more. If so that doesn't bother me. But hopefully Cyclops gets his due.

Squidboy
06-29-2010, 07:46 PM
Wonder if they'll include the Juggernaut backstory

I wouldn't count on it - Xavier and Magneto didn't appear to recognize Juggernaut when they both encountered him in the last movie, and since I'm standing by the belief that this is still going to be a prequel, I would hate for them to rewrite that aspect of the character, even though it's the right thing to do.

Lightning Strykez!
06-29-2010, 08:45 PM
I'm just wondering/worried about whether they are going to include Storm in this. No one else perhaps seems to care, but...I do. I want to see her done right and this is the best chance to see it if FOX is gonna retain the rights.

SuperT
06-29-2010, 09:07 PM
No you're not the only one. Storm BETTER be in this.

Squidboy
06-29-2010, 09:18 PM
I'm just wondering/worried about whether they are going to include Storm in this. No one else perhaps seems to care, but...I do. I want to see her done right and this is the best chance to see it if FOX is gonna retain the rights.

It'd be stupid not to include Storm - they were going to have her as a cameo appearance in Wolverine, so why not have her actually do something in the true prequel to the trilogy? Perhaps the writers and producers are trying to decide the right age for the main X-Men to be, as we haven't had Ororo, Scott, or Jean cast yet.

TNC9852002
06-29-2010, 10:15 PM
I'm just wondering/worried about whether they are going to include Storm in this. No one else perhaps seems to care, but...I do. I want to see her done right and this is the best chance to see it if FOX is gonna retain the rights.
Well, even if she's in, I don't expect much...

Superhero 101
06-29-2010, 10:25 PM
If Storm is in this then the villain should be Shadow King!!!

JP
06-29-2010, 11:42 PM
If it comes to having her in this film to the same capacity as the first 3 films, or saving her for the sequel were her presence is more substantial ala Nightcrawler in X2, I'd prefer the latter.

TNC9852002
06-30-2010, 12:11 AM
Yeah--I wouldn't mind using this first film to focus on introducing an initial core team and focus more on Xavier and Erik and then bring in Storm later..

But then again, in X1, Xavier mentions that Storm was one of his first students along with Cyclops and Jean--which, it could still apply.

Slim_X
06-30-2010, 02:43 AM
I'm just glad we will get to see the X-Men shine. Don't get me wrong, I didn't mind that Wolverine was the center of the film, but in the third, we all know he should have taken the back seat to Cyclops. It was the perfect opportunity.

But the fact we could see a competent and leader Cyclops in this film is cool to think about. Although they might focus on the Xavier/Magneto relationship more. If so that doesn't bother me. But hopefully Cyclops gets his due.

Hope so too!

TNC9852002
06-30-2010, 06:45 AM
It's not called Cyclops and the X-Men: First Class :p

Phoenix_Flare
06-30-2010, 07:21 AM
hmm, I can see a team of Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Storm, Banshee and I can see them being supporting characters to Xavier, which is not a bad thing, if each role is well written, it could be that Xavier doesn't want them to fight, but learn how to cope w/their powers unlike Magneto who wishes them too...I'm thinking Mystique might be a 6th member of the team

merbass
06-30-2010, 07:51 AM
I think the movie should end with drastic change of weather in Africa and the X-men team is heading that way. Storm and Jubilee ( forget about x-men 1 ) should be the focus mutants of X-men : Sophomore class.

X-Maniac
06-30-2010, 09:18 AM
I'm just wondering/worried about whether they are going to include Storm in this. No one else perhaps seems to care, but...I do. I want to see her done right and this is the best chance to see it if FOX is gonna retain the rights.

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. If she isn't, they might save her for a sequel with the Shadow King storyline. I'm a great fan of Storm but I wouldn't freak out if she was saved for a follow-up. I don't want her stuffed into the film for the sake of it.

Doctor Jones
06-30-2010, 10:37 AM
If she isn't in this I'm sure she'll show up in a sequel if there is one.

squeekness
06-30-2010, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Storm, especially if they managed to get Zoe Saldana to play her. :D

TNC9852002
06-30-2010, 01:10 PM
Zoe could be that kind of recognizable face or name that this movie could use.. :p

Hobodeluxe
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
no one is mentioning the Alice Eve as Emma Frost (http://theflickcast.com/2010/06/30/tommy-lee-jones-joins-captain-america-alice-eve-is-emma-frost-in-x-men-first-class/) rumor?

Hobodeluxe
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Storm, especially if they managed to get Zoe Saldana to play her. :D

yeah she would be perfect for the role.

JP
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
no one is mentioning the Alice Eve as Emma Frost (http://theflickcast.com/2010/06/30/tommy-lee-jones-joins-captain-america-alice-eve-is-emma-frost-in-x-men-first-class/) rumor?

It's not a rumor, she's in negotiations... and yeah, we know.

gap5ewl
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
no one is mentioning the Alice Eve as Emma Frost (http://theflickcast.com/2010/06/30/tommy-lee-jones-joins-captain-america-alice-eve-is-emma-frost-in-x-men-first-class/) rumor?

It's on the front page of SHH lol.

javon
06-30-2010, 09:33 PM
Soo, this movie isn't just speculation? It's actually gonna happen?

JP
06-30-2010, 09:38 PM
I've heard rumors that Hutcherson is a favorite for the role of Cyclops in X-Men: First Class, but I can't verify that at the moment. Between Hutcherson and Michael Fassbender, it's interesting seeing how much overlap there may be in the casting of these two Marvel projects.
http://chud.com/articles/articles/24275/1/HAS-PETER-PARKER-BEEN-HIRED/Page1.html


God, I hope not.

Lightning Strykez!
06-30-2010, 09:50 PM
I'd think Storm would be a necessity for this film if for anything the following reasons:

1.) Diversity
2.) Visual aesthetics

No pun intended, but Storm is probably the "flashiest" character in terms of SFX and obviously would be a "wow factor" in promoting this film. It'd be nice to see someone with true African roots alongside all of this British flavor that the casting directors seem to be going for.

I can tell you this: if they cast someone that actually resembles the character there would be a revolutionary jubilee among X-fans--especially Storm ones--worldwide.

JP
06-30-2010, 10:08 PM
I'd think Storm would be a necessity for this film if for anything the following reasons:

1.) Diversity
2.) Visual aesthetics

No pun intended, but Storm is probably the "flashiest" character in terms of SFX and obviously would be a "wow factor" in promoting this film. It'd be nice to see someone with true African roots alongside all of this British flavor that the casting directors seem to be going for.

I can tell you this: if they cast someone that actually resembles the character there would be a revolutionary jubilee among X-fans--especially Storm ones--worldwide.

Well, I found this tweet:
I Thank God! My artist has 3 major movie roles to audition for Twilight Saga " Breaking Dawn", Transformers 3, & X Men "First Class Begins"
11:49 PM Jun 23rd via UberTwitter
https://twitter.com/Strongdageneral
I'm 90% sure his "artist" is a young black female. That leads me to believe that Storm is in the film.

Yes, we haven't heard much about Storm in terms of rumored casting, but we haven't heard anything about Jean either. Or anything about the villain.

Squidboy
06-30-2010, 11:33 PM
I'm more interested in finding out where this person heard that the movie was called X-Men First Class Begins... is there a pre-prequel planned that I don't know about?!

DocHoliday
07-01-2010, 07:21 AM
el mayimbe from Latino Review teased that he had another possible mutant casting late last night. That's in addition to the Banshee news he posted.