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thewhyteman
01-21-2011, 10:53 AM
A part of me likes that this is pretty tight lipped. I ruined The Last Stand for myself because I knew everything before I went in to the theater
Thats the reason I try not to watch the 3rd trailer of any movie.
Matt Mortem
01-21-2011, 11:01 AM
I've had to stop reading the novelizations of films. I read the one for the Last Stand and it spoiled everything.
chaseter
01-21-2011, 11:12 AM
A part of me likes that this is pretty tight lipped. I ruined The Last Stand for myself because I knew everything before I went in to the theater
Kinberg and Penn lying is what ruined X3 for me. Telling everyone that something was going to happen and then it didn't...ugh. I never want to hear from them again.
Downhere
01-21-2011, 11:16 AM
Kinberg and Penn lying is what ruined X3 for me. Telling everyone that something was going to happen and then it didn't...ugh. I never want to hear from them again.
Yeah, that was one of the worst things to happen with X3. Those guys should have not reached out to fans and spread false information about the movie. I had high hopes for that film which were not realized, it was just an okay action film with more wrong than right as far as the story went.
dark_b
01-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Kinberg and Penn lying is what ruined X3 for me. Telling everyone that something was going to happen and then it didn't...ugh. I never want to hear from them again.geek friend Vaughn is also lying even if some here are in denial :awesome:
chaseter
01-21-2011, 11:21 AM
Yeah, that was one of the worst things to happen with X3. Those guys should have not reached out to fans and spread false information about the movie. I had high hopes for that film which were not realized, it was just an okay action film with more wrong than right as far as the story went.
I remember them saying Colossus would fight Juggernaut. I kept waiting to see it on Alcatraz and then I went wtf:huh:
PWN3R even played on Xboxlive with these douches and they lied to him. I hate those dudes.
geek friend Vaughn is also lying even if some here are in denial :awesome:
Yeah, the film is in shambles while he sits around in London giving phone interviews.
But please, tell me exactly what Vaughn lied about?
dark_b
01-21-2011, 11:26 AM
Yeah, the film is in shambles while he sits around in London giving phone interviews.
But please, tell me exactly what Vaughn lied about?you know the obvious lie about the first promo image?
:lmao:
Project862006
01-21-2011, 11:27 AM
he said it was unauthorized which it was:dry:
Kane52630
01-21-2011, 11:37 AM
you know the obvious lie about the first promo image?
:lmao:
are you trying to get JP to post his 40k post? lol
dark_b
01-21-2011, 11:55 AM
he said it was unauthorized which it was:dry:SHH and yahoo owned him :awesome:
jrd550
01-21-2011, 11:57 AM
Here's how I'm looking @ the movie: Is it being rushed? ...yeah, but the fact of the matter is, it's going to be how it's going to be and there is nothing that we can really do about it, ya know? I'm going to be supportive of it and wait until I see the final product. The first X-Men movie was really rushed and it didn't turn out that bad at all. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but I would really like to see this movie succeed and I find blatant hate and bashing (without seeing the final product) unneeded.
Just my $0.02
well said!
and nice batman quote!
SHH and yahoo owned him :awesome:
See my post.
Let me chime in here...
We were ALL here on Tuesday morning waiting for the first official pic that we got word was being released. It was supposed to be released on MSN at 12pm EST. Well, 12pm came and nothing happened. Then 1pm happened... By 1:30 a photo made its way online, but it was from DailyBlam. They person who worked at MSN who told me about the release in the first place said that the debut was "scrapped". Meaning, at the last minute Fox pulled the image and decided not to release. So, Mathew Vaughn is not a liar. We were all there. His story pans out. he probably saw the image they were planning to release and had the same reaction WE had on this forum and told them NOT to release it.
As one of the many people on this forum Tuesday, I know first hand Vaughn has truth to what he says.
Yay, 40,000. :dry:
I feel somewhat responsible for this mess. If I hadn't announced on this forum that the image was debuting on Tuesday, no one would have known about it, and perhaps there would have been a chance that no one would have seen the image. I mean, if no one was constantly refreshing MSN then perhaps no one would have gotten a hold of the smaller version of the image that accidentally got published before it was retracted.
And since everything I post here gets picked up by certain sites without an ounce of credit, I think it's best I just keep my mouth shut about everything I find out.
danoyse
01-21-2011, 12:11 PM
geek friend Vaughn is also lying even if some here are in denial :awesome:
It's getting annoying now...how about knocking that off?
I feel somewhat responsible for this mess. If I hadn't announced on this forum that the image was debuting on Tuesday, no one would have known about it, and perhaps there would have been a chance that no one would have seen the image. I mean, if no one was constantly refreshing MSN then perhaps no one would have gotten a hold of the smaller version of the image that accidentally got published before it was retracted.
And since everything I post here gets picked up by certain sites without an ounce of credit, I think it's best I just keep my mouth shut about everything I find out.
If it weren't for you, my days would be a lot more boring.
danoyse
01-21-2011, 12:16 PM
Thats the reason I try not to watch the 3rd trailer of any movie.
I'll watch the trailers, but I won't watch the scenes that go online right before the movie opens. I feel that ruins it more than the trailers do.
NickNitro
01-21-2011, 12:25 PM
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/dontblinkx182x/HAHA_Xmen.jpg
Doesnt Beast look a LITTLE too much like the Live Action Beast from Beauty and the Beast.
This is why this movie will probably be a fail like this. Or the fact that the Helmet for Magneto looks like a slight shrug of the shoulders will pierce his colar bones.
Dont quote me about raping my childhood. I have watched every Xmen movie and apart from 1 and most of 2 I didnt have problems. It was Xmen:LS and Wolverine that ruined this for me, and It looks like YET AGAIN they are going on with that trend.
S.A.A.D.
01-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Beast looks retarded and too different. It's like looking at some crumby version of Nightcrawler,is it that hard to get his look right?
BoredGuy
01-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Yeah, I can't comment to the veracity of LR's reports..
but I am somewhat surprised everybody seems to like these photos
..Am I the only one who thinks all the pics, even the "good" ones, are just plain terrible?
craigdbfan
01-21-2011, 12:36 PM
I'll watch the trailers, but I won't watch the scenes that go online right before the movie opens. I feel that ruins it more than the trailers do.
Yeah, it usually causes me to get out of the scene which then gets me to start thinking about what I was doing when I first watched that scene then my mind starts to wander.
Thats how it usually goes. To much footage seen before causes some sort of odd nostalgia. Not the good kind either.
craigdbfan
01-21-2011, 12:38 PM
Beast looks retarded and too different. It's like looking at some crumby version of Nightcrawler,is it that hard to get his look right?
It's just one bad promo shot that wasn't even approved for release from the director. Probably a marketing team goof over at Fox.
Matt Mortem
01-21-2011, 01:36 PM
Jeezus guys it's one ****** promo with a shadowy pic of Beast. Why don't y'all hold off judgment until you ACTUALLY get to see him.
Jeezus guys it's one ****** promo with a shadowy pic of Beast. Why don't y'all hold off judgment until you ACTUALLY get to see him.
I know, **** never stops. Pathetic thing is, they act like the movie is ruined because Beast looks different from the comics(OH NOEZ!!).
X-Maniac
01-21-2011, 03:02 PM
Beast looks retarded and too different. It's like looking at some crumby version of Nightcrawler,is it that hard to get his look right?
We've been told on here that the Beast image in that line-up was a Photoshop creation, which is probably why he's hidden right at the back rather than being fully visible and in costume.
But I'm noticing that ALL superhero images, designs and costumes are coming in for a bashing at the moment.
From Thor's biker pants to Captain America's baggy outfit to the new Spider-Man suit in the just-released image to the computer-generated Green Lantern uniform, it seems that a) fans are hard to please; and b) comic book costumes do not easily translate to the real world in the more realistic setting of modern superhero movies.
If you create it exactly as in the comics, it looks hokey as hell. If you adapt it, fans moan. Face it: what looks good in colourful artwork in comics hardly ever looks good in real life. It looks like fancy dress or a Halloween or carnival outfit.
Even Nolan has come in for criticism for his changes to the Batman suit and Batmobile, which he made in an attempt to make things seem more realistic.
In the end, it's how the finished film holds together, not how an out-of-context glimpse of a costume looks.
Loganbabe
01-21-2011, 03:21 PM
Sometimes I feel like studying Sociology just to understand the phenomenon of extreme negativity, trollism, and just plain hatred on most comics forums. I swear, some people spend hours of their precious lives just to prove that a certain movie raped their childhood, killed their parents and kicked their dog and if Xavier isn't bald I guess I'll have to kill myself. :whatever:
There's not enough good sense it the world that will make them understand that a picture - one picture! - doesn't represent an entire movie. No, Beast sucks, Fox sucks, the movie sucks, the world sucks and their entire life is doomed. :o
Optimus_Prime_
01-21-2011, 03:25 PM
I thought the promo shot was okay really. Couldn't make out Beast enough to complain about him, other than that, loved the costumes. Since I already knew Xavier was going to have hair, my biggest gripe was Magneto not being perminantly white haired. I know people with completely white hair, and I've always found that look very appropriate for Magneto at any age.
Project862006
01-21-2011, 03:32 PM
white hair looks fake on young people i have never seen it look good
halle berry did'nt pull it off well tell the 3rd film and she had mixed colors
BoredGuy
01-21-2011, 03:32 PM
well I can't speak for SAAD on this, but personally, beast isn't my problem on this one.
I'm going to ignore that promo til the director approves one, and beast is too difficult to see anyway.
It's the other, official pics I don't care for. Just the look of it, and the actors chosen, and the costumes, I'm just not feelin it so far. (especially the Bacon-Shot)
I should also mention that I'm in the camp who loves the Thor and Cap costumes, so no trolling/extreme negativism here...!
AVEITWITHJAMON
01-21-2011, 04:34 PM
I think only the photoshopped promo image has been less than average, and that wasnt even approved by Vaughn, I think the other photo's look great.
The Guard
01-21-2011, 04:47 PM
Yeah, that was one of the worst things to happen with X3. Those guys should have not reached out to fans and spread false information about the movie. I had high hopes for that film which were not realized, it was just an okay action film with more wrong than right as far as the story went
Refresh my memory. What false information did they spread?
I remember them saying Colossus would fight Juggernaut. I kept waiting to see it on Alcatraz and then I went wtf.
Colossus was supposed to fight Juggernaut, wasn't he? Wasn't it cut or abandoned or something?
Like, there is one major complaint about this movie that keeps popping up everywhere about one of the images that is going to make people eat so much crow and feel like dumbasses when they find out why it's that way.
It's the fact that the lighting sucks in the first costume image, isn't it?
They're in the Astral Plane, aren't they?
We've been told on here that the Beast image in that line-up was a Photoshop creation, which is probably why he's hidden right at the back rather than being fully visible and in costume.
But I'm noticing that ALL superhero images, designs and costumes are coming in for a bashing at the moment.
From Thor's biker pants to Captain America's baggy outfit to the new Spider-Man suit in the just-released image to the computer-generated Green Lantern uniform, it seems that a) fans are hard to please; and b) comic book costumes do not easily translate to the real world in the more realistic setting of modern superhero movies.
If you create it exactly as in the comics, it looks hokey as hell. If you adapt it, fans moan. Face it: what looks good in colourful artwork in comics hardly ever looks good in real life. It looks like fancy dress or a Halloween or carnival outfit.
Even Nolan has come in for criticism for his changes to the Batman suit and Batmobile, which he made in an attempt to make things seem more realistic.
In the end, it's how the finished film holds together, not how an out-of-context glimpse of a costume looks.
I completely agree and well said.
danoyse
01-21-2011, 06:40 PM
Refresh my memory. What false information did they spread?
Oh hell no, we are not turning this thread into another X3 debate. We have a separate forum for the first three films. Take that discussion there.
Thank you. :woot:
BobJM
01-21-2011, 06:57 PM
We've been told on here that the Beast image in that line-up was a Photoshop creation, which is probably why he's hidden right at the back rather than being fully visible and in costume.
But I'm noticing that ALL superhero images, designs and costumes are coming in for a bashing at the moment.
From Thor's biker pants to Captain America's baggy outfit to the new Spider-Man suit in the just-released image to the computer-generated Green Lantern uniform, it seems that a) fans are hard to please; and b) comic book costumes do not easily translate to the real world in the more realistic setting of modern superhero movies.
If you create it exactly as in the comics, it looks hokey as hell. If you adapt it, fans moan. Face it: what looks good in colourful artwork in comics hardly ever looks good in real life. It looks like fancy dress or a Halloween or carnival outfit.
Even Nolan has come in for criticism for his changes to the Batman suit and Batmobile, which he made in an attempt to make things seem more realistic.
In the end, it's how the finished film holds together, not how an out-of-context glimpse of a costume looks.
well said:up::up::up:
Loganbabe
01-21-2011, 07:03 PM
Oh hell no, we are not turning this thread into another X3 debate.
Having flashbacks. Insane ones. :woot:
danoyse
01-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Having flashbacks. Insane ones. :woot:
It's like being a referee, I swear... :doh:
Loganbabe
01-21-2011, 07:22 PM
:funny:
WildcatNC
01-21-2011, 08:06 PM
I LOVE the design of the Magneto helmet but it just doesn't look right. Something about it looks awkward and B rate in that pic.
It could just be the pic though.
Electrix
01-21-2011, 08:19 PM
Screen Rant: One thing people are wondering about is how Professor X is going to be depicted in terms of combat – because he trained for it in the comics.
James McAvoy: He’s not too combat savvy in this film, it has to be said. He doesn’t do too much, he’s sort of a consultant with the combat guys. But he does get involved in a few little bits of fisticuffs, I wouldn’t say that he comes out well in any of them, but I wouldn’t say that he gets his ass kicked either. Yeah he’s not particularly combat ready.
SR: So it will be more about the mind control.
JM: Yes.
SR: Will he end up in the chair at the end and will he end up bald, because that is the current rumor.
JM: You’ll have to wait and see, you’ll have to wait and see. It’s actually quite satisfying when you get to say that: ‘I’m not allowed to say.’ Because nobody’s actually told you that you’re not allowed to say, but it’s sort of implied.
SR: Awww, c’mon you can tell me.
At this point, McAvoy’s management team stuck their heads in the room as a gentle reminder for me to not get too sassy.
JM: No, I can’t (Scottish lilt ever-present and almost charming enough to soften the lack-of-scoop blow). I haven’t even told my agent, they don’t even know I’m doing the film.
SR: Okay. What if anything did you take from Patrick Stewart’s portrayal?
JM: I’ll tell you what I did take – I looked at all of the things that he did the hardest. I looked at all of the things that came out the strongest in his performance and we said we have to go the opposite way. Simply to validate why we were making this film, because if they were just the same there would be no reason to make it, we have to show how different he is. We have to show a journey – so he clearly has to start in a different place. So the main things that we looked into are the fact that he is ego-less, selfless, a very good person, he’s sexless – he’s sort of like a monk. We thought of what the opposite of all of those things would be – so now he drinks a lot, chases women quite a lot, and doesn’t mind sort of abusing his power to get ahead. He’s definitely got an ego, and he’s definitely a little bit selfish. So that’s where we start with him, and so he’s now got to grow towards –Sir Patrick.
SR: So it’s the experiences of this film that make him who he is as a character ultimately?
JM: Yes.
http://screenrant.com/james-mcavoy-xmen-class-interview-professor-x-rothc-97608/
After this movie I'll never look at Patrick's Xavier the same again. Knowing what a dog he was. :awesome:
Oh, and James is gonna be a Jimmy Kimmel tonight. 12:06 AM EST. ABC.
Asking about his approach to the character, particularly in the light of Patrick Stewart's performances in the previous X-Men films, McAvoy revealed that Xavier was initially going to be bald, but the studio vetoed the idea. Apparently this detail alone was enough to help him escape from under the weight of Stewart's performance and left him saying, "Well **** it, I’m liberated then." This revelation seems to debunk the trailer details (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/X-Men-First-Class-Trailer-Seen-Shows-The-Origin-Of-Xavier-s-Baldness-22580.html) from last week that said we would see McAvoy losing his hair.
Discussing how the character is different than the one we've already seen on the screen, McAvoy expressed that he doesn't see the point of doing a prequel set years earlier that features static characters. As such, Xavier's principles are in tact in the new film, however, other elements are definitely different.
"You look at the kind of main, defining characteristics of Professor X, of Charlie Boy, and you go, 'Alright, he’s selfless. He’s a saint. He’s sexless, it seems. He’s egoless. He’s all about other people. He’s all about bettering the world and mutantkind and humankind.' And so you kind of try and flip that on its head. You don’t make him an evil person, or anything like that, but you make him ego-driven, women-chasing, he likes a good drink. He’s not the reluctant leader that you kind of want all heroes to be. He actually kind of wants to be in charge, you know what I mean? And all of those things, just to kind of show a journey. So by the end of the movie he’s some way towards becoming Patrick Stewart[‘s version of the character], rather than just having the same guy at the beginning."
Also significant is that he confirmed that Wolverine, played by Hugh Jackman in all previous films in the franchise, will not be making an appearance in the film.
Following that, I also decided to ask about the stuff that they were doing in re-shoots. In addition to "bits and bobs," three scenes being worked on are the ending and two scenes out on the water.
We doing a tiny little tweak on the very end, finale thing between me and Michael [Fassbender], who plays Magneto. And we’re doing, what else are we doing? It’s all little bits and bobs and things that we dropped or didn’t know we needed or trying to fix a little scene here or there or tighten up a scene here or there. We’re doing a little bit on a boat at one point, which is going to be fun; then a lot of underwater stuff last week, which I can’t really tell you what it’s about, but it’s quite exciting. Just bits and bobs really.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/James-McAvoy-Talks-X-Men-No-Bald-Xavier-No-Wolverine-And-Re-Shoot-Details-22771.html
Matt Mortem
01-21-2011, 08:37 PM
Hmm kind of on the fence about that tid bit in regards to Xaviers portrayal. Guess I'll wait and see how it plays out
The Wizard
01-21-2011, 08:38 PM
Interesting interview.
The Wizard
01-21-2011, 08:40 PM
Curious about "the finale thing" between Charles and Erik.
Project862006
01-21-2011, 08:54 PM
i love it because if he was the same as Stewart there would be no growth as a character
The Wizard
01-21-2011, 09:00 PM
I can imagine the final Charles/Erik scene to resemble X1's final scene. I'm looking forward to FC's portrayal of Charles; I wonder that since he isn't identical to Patrick's version, I wonder if Erik will be portrayed differently than when Ian played him, at least to an extent.
Loganbabe
01-21-2011, 09:03 PM
^Exactly. The idea of the character going through this journey and turning into Patrick's Xavier is quite intriguing and much more interesting than having the character to start exactly how Stewart portrayed him.
Hmmm, Xavier the dog...me likes! :awesome:
The Wizard
01-21-2011, 09:13 PM
Yeah, Charles and Moira should make for an interesting dynamic.
Matt Mortem
01-21-2011, 09:16 PM
^Exactly. The idea of the character going through this journey and turning into Patrick's Xavier is quite intriguing and much more interesting than having the character to start exactly how Stewart portrayed him.
Hmmm, Xavier the dog...me likes! :awesome:
Thats a good point. I could see that playing out well
The Wizard
01-21-2011, 09:24 PM
Interesting that James said he couldn't say whether Charles would lose the ability to walk in the film. Don't we already know he does?
Loganbabe
01-21-2011, 09:34 PM
We kind of know, but maybe James didn't want to elaborate because the guy would start asking when and how and who. :)
McAvoy was just on Kimmel looking just :atp:
He did a hilarious, but brief, Patrick Stewart impression.
Ipodman
01-21-2011, 11:44 PM
I didnt like James Mcavoy in Wanted (In fact, I didnt like Wanted at all) but he seems pretty good in these pictures!
A Necessary Evil
01-21-2011, 11:48 PM
I missed the interview :csad:
But I think the photos look great. Hopefully we'll get a X-Men movie that's above average again...hopefully. :up:
Loganbabe
01-22-2011, 12:08 AM
McAvoy was just on Kimmel looking just :atp:
Ahhhh... :hrt: :awesome: :hrt:
Kimmel isn't broadcasted here, but hopefully someone will post the interview at youtube. :up:
Project862006
01-22-2011, 01:33 AM
James McAvoy Collider Interview:
What is it like to do X-Men: First Class and have such a quick turn-around, since the film is due out on June 3rd? McAVOY: I don’t think I’ve ever made such a big movie, in such a short period of time. It’s nuts, really. But, we’re getting it done. No movie has ever got enough time. It doesn’t matter how much money you’ve got, and it doesn’t matter how much money you’ve not got. You never finish on time. You’re always up against it and you’re always working up until the end. To get three days off the schedule to come and do [press for Gnomeo & Juliet] is a nice break ‘cause it is just [non-stop], all the time. But then, that’s what it is with every single movie I’ve ever been on. It just feels like the usual. It’s more about whether they can get it ready in time for the release date. They’re working on the editing now, and they’re working on the special effects now. They’ve got a big department working 24/7 on it.
From what you were told about the film to how it’s turning out, how does it compare?
McAVOY: It’s pretty much what I thought it would be when (director) Matthew [Vaughn] took me through it all. He really wanted to play off the ‘60s setting of it, and play off the style of that, visually, in the design of the costumes and all that, which we totally got. And, he wanted us to be really free, in terms of characterization, and was confident in taking it as far away from the original characters, not as we could, but as we thought was right. We’ve really done that quite a lot. Otherwise, there’s no point in doing a prequel, if they’re just the exact same people. They’ve got to be very different, otherwise there is no journey. This story is all about that journey to showing the seeds of how they are in the other X-Men movies, and to show what could have been between Erik and Charles – or Professor X and Magneto (Michael Fassbender) – and to show why it couldn’t be.
What’s been the toughest part about playing such a popular character?
McAVOY: The toughest part is probably that I’ve got a great superpower and, if you had it in real life, it would be amazing, but in a movie, everybody else is bouncing off the walls and shooting ****ing beams of light out of their chest and doing crazy stuff and making things fly around, and I’m [putting my finger to my forehead]. It just feels a little bit like, “Oh, god!” But, what’s nice is that it means I have less CGI and stunt work to do, which means I have more time in my bed. That’s the thing. I look at all the other people using their superpowers and I’m like, “That would have been fun!”
What’s been the best part of this gig?
McAVOY: The best part about it, for me so far, is that I really love the cast. The cast has just been incredible. We’ve had a lot of fun, actually. I’ve loved working with [Michael] Fassbender. I think he’s great. I’m so glad that we got to collaborate on something. But, just from top to bottom, the cast is amazing. Having Kevin Bacon play your baddie is great. It’s a great, slightly left-field piece of casting as well. I don’t think anybody expected that. Hopefully, that’s a clue as to what the movie will be.
Was just gonna post that. Thanks. :up:
Silvermoth
01-22-2011, 03:42 AM
It's interesting about what McAvoy said about playing a less saintly Charles Xavier. I remember when we first met Charles he wasn't always a perfect guy. In fact, he almost made the all new, all different X-men quit because he kept treating them like children.
I don't really like the idea of the studio vetoing the "making charles bald" idea. Whenever Fox gets involved, I get worried.
henzINNIT
01-22-2011, 07:22 AM
Yeah it's a shame Xavier couldn't be bald to be honest. He'd be far more familiar for press/promotion.
psyonic
01-22-2011, 07:28 AM
I believe he will be bald by the end of the movie ..
henzINNIT
01-22-2011, 07:38 AM
Ahhhh... :hrt: :awesome: :hrt:
Kimmel isn't broadcasted here, but hopefully someone will post the interview at youtube. :up:
Youtube comes through.
Here's the Stewart impression, haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyhn1omRoQ
holtz11
01-22-2011, 10:24 AM
Ohhh, boy. EW interview with Vaughn:
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?
MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.
If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?
You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.
I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?
In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.
And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?
They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.
Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.
Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?
Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.
You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…
That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.
How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?
Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.
Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.
And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it. :doh:
conan69
01-22-2011, 10:36 AM
Unfortunately with the printed word, you cant tell what was said with sarcasm or tongue in cheek, etc... that comment doesnt seem to sound like Vaughn being serious to me.
BTW, I do agree with his comment about changing history. Most of these iconic comic book characters - The Avengers, Batman, XMen, and so on have been around so long that consistency is simply impossible.
Thats one of the things that made me start to drift away from Marvel and DC in the mid-late 80s and start looking at Independent books instead.
c-saw
01-22-2011, 10:36 AM
Ohhh, boy. EW interview with Vaughn:
And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.
:doh:
LOL. Epic. I hope people are smart enough not take that seriously though.
Electrix
01-22-2011, 10:46 AM
Anyone who has seen an interview with Vaughn will know his humour. It's British humor, and it's not serious. He also gets straight to the point, like with the character storylines question. Fans won't like it, but its true.
Crockett
01-22-2011, 10:47 AM
Erik and Charles helping the CIA eh? Must be Platt's role.
Great Mind(s)
01-22-2011, 10:50 AM
So like the CIA uses them for their powers and what not and then later tries to register them and label them the enemy? Makes sense actually.
bosef982
01-22-2011, 11:20 AM
We've been told on here that the Beast image in that line-up was a Photoshop creation, which is probably why he's hidden right at the back rather than being fully visible and in costume.
But I'm noticing that ALL superhero images, designs and costumes are coming in for a bashing at the moment.
From Thor's biker pants to Captain America's baggy outfit to the new Spider-Man suit in the just-released image to the computer-generated Green Lantern uniform, it seems that a) fans are hard to please; and b) comic book costumes do not easily translate to the real world in the more realistic setting of modern superhero movies.
If you create it exactly as in the comics, it looks hokey as hell. If you adapt it, fans moan. Face it: what looks good in colourful artwork in comics hardly ever looks good in real life. It looks like fancy dress or a Halloween or carnival outfit.
Even Nolan has come in for criticism for his changes to the Batman suit and Batmobile, which he made in an attempt to make things seem more realistic.
In the end, it's how the finished film holds together, not how an out-of-context glimpse of a costume looks.
OMG...
I can't believe this...
I...agree....with you...
Angamb
01-22-2011, 11:24 AM
I think superhero costumes can be faithfull to the comics and look amazing.
The problem is the costume designers dont choose the best designs and materials.
My opinion.
bosef982
01-22-2011, 11:31 AM
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How would you describe First Class to the uninitiated?
MATTHEW VAUGHN: The best way of describing it is X-Men meets Bond, with a little bit of Thirteen Days thrown in for good measure. It’s set in the ’60s, and I basically molded a young Magneto on a young Sean Connery. He’s the ultimate spy — imagine Bond, but with superpowers.
If Magneto is Bond, then what about Charles Xavier?
You’re seeing Xavier become a professor. For me, Magneto is the good guy in the film, but he’s a sort of a good bad guy. He literally kicks off the movie, and Xavier goes along on the ride trying to figure out what the hell is going on, and trying to persuade Erik that you don’t have to kill everyone.
I know you’re under tight restrictions about what you can reveal regarding the plot, but, well, what else can you say?
In the beginning of the film, no one knows that mutants exist, and all the mutants don’t know that each other exist. They’re all in hiding. Kevin Bacon plays a very megalomaniac mutant [Sebastian Shaw] who decides that he can take over the world and that mutants are the future. Erik and Charles then meet each other and hook up with the CIA to try and prevent World War III. You find out everything about what went on between Erik and Charles.
And there are flashbacks with Erik and Charles as young children?
They’re not flashbacks — we start there. It starts in 1942, and then works its way up to 1962.
Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.
Is the movie related at all to the First Class comics?
Not really. There are a lot of nods to the X-Men world and the X-Men movies, but it’s definitely its own beast.
You were going to direct X-Men: The Last Stand and then dropped out two months before filming started. The story is that you thought you weren’t going to have enough time to see your vision through…
That’s true. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, I probably would have had more time then than I do now, which is highly ironic. But I also have more experience now than I did then. And I had no idea how big-budget filmmaking worked, so I was just applying small-budget independent-style logic to the wrong equation. And when I saw the film, I realized that Fox would have given me all the tools I needed. I was just stupid enough not to take them. But we both decided to cross the bridge together again. I definitely had burned a bridge. But they asked, so we met and we both kissed and made up and went off to make the film.
How did you settle on James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender as Professor X and Magneto, respectively?
Professor X is a very hard character to cast. Out of all the characters, he’s the dullest if you really think about it. He’ll be in a wheelchair eventually, and he’s sort of a sanctimonious preacher half of the time. Patrick Stewart brought so much to that role, and I needed to get an actor who could do the same — who could give him a fourth dimension that’d make him sparkle. James was literally at the top of the list, and he said yes, so I got my first actor very quickly.
Magneto was a juicier role. I’ve been watching Fassbender for a long time, and I knew the guy was going to pop as a movie star. He read it and knocked it out of the park, and the rest of the cast just fell in around them. What makes me laugh is, by this time next year, half of my cast is going to be extremely popular and famous. Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop. Nicholas Hoult [i.e. Hank McCoy/Beast] definitely is. People are going to find Kevin Bacon a revelation, and January Jones [i.e. Emma Frost] has got huge star potential.
And, please, one more story tease?
It’s got a lot of teenage angst. The Twilight girls will like it.
LMAO! This is fantastic.
Though, if you read carefully, he gave a pretty major spoiler in there -- and one huge bit about the dynamics of two characters' relationships.
Matt Mortem
01-22-2011, 11:40 AM
I like what Vaughn was saying
Matt Mortem
01-22-2011, 11:40 AM
edit: Double
Nice quotes from Vaughn. :up:
marvelrobbins
01-22-2011, 12:03 PM
Originally Xavier had connection to government and had FBI Contact.Also at one point
It was revealed Magneto had past catching nazis and turning them over for trial but he was betreyed when he captured one working against the Russians.
Speculation here Is we start film with Magneto as boy In camps move to Xavier as boy
and then to Mystiques as girl and then go to Xavier,magneto,Moira,and Mystique at Oxford.
Magneto may be a kind of spy when he meets Xavier.This will be first time other one of
them realizes there are others like them.They form the school(possibly with Government
help) Moira Is Xavier's love Intrest and works with him and Magneto.Beast,Banshee,Mystique,and Havoc are first students and we later see Angel and Darwin being found and recuited Into the school.The Man In Black uses Magneto,
Xavier,and the first X-Men to Investigate Sebsastan Shaw and the hellfire Club.During the Cuban Missile Crisis Shaw and Emma Frost prepare to launch a world domination scheme.This group of X-Men have to stop them before their plotting can lead to World
War III being launched.
I think It IS clear from this Interview Magneto Is main Character.Personally I hope some reference Is made to him once having a wife and daughter.With Michael Fassbender playing a bit of young Sean Connery we might finally get confirmation what other films hinted at Mystique Is magneto's lover as well as right hand.
Vaughn Is totally right In many of his observations about X-Men history.
BobJM
01-22-2011, 12:05 PM
LMAO! This is fantastic.
Though, if you read carefully, he gave a pretty major spoiler in there -- and one huge bit about the dynamics of two characters' relationships.\\
i'm rereading and idk what you're referring to.
A Necessary Evil
01-22-2011, 12:14 PM
I'm excited for this :up:
Now, just give us a trailer :down
Crockett
01-22-2011, 12:21 PM
True, can't wait for it though, I'm thinking around late February possibly.
A Necessary Evil
01-22-2011, 12:23 PM
Well late feb can't come soon enough :o :D
Awesome interview Vaughn seems like a pretty straight up guy.
Hurm...
01-22-2011, 12:50 PM
If I were to judge by an interview, I think Vaughn did a really great job. Making a superhero film can create a lot of pressure from fanboys, but he has taken it well, and hasn't allowed him to alter the story he wants to tell. I love the last part too about teen angst, good sense of humor that Vaughn lol :D
Phoenix_Flare
01-22-2011, 12:50 PM
it makes a lot sense, the American history/government is known for using others to further their hidden agenda's. I wouldn't be suprised if the CIA w/Moira's help is probably studying mutants(cue Darwin), learning about their abilities, hmm I bet they probably give Xavier funding, to stop Shaw/Emma, and that's how the 1st team comes to be, but something goes wrong, and that's when Charles & Eric fall out & whatever Eric or the CIA does is what causes him to take action against the government and the government against mutants: registration act, mutant concentration camps, etc.
just my theory
psyonic
01-22-2011, 01:56 PM
LMAO! This is fantastic.
Though, if you read carefully, he gave a pretty major spoiler in there -- and one huge bit about the dynamics of two characters' relationships.
Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop.
:cwink:
AVEITWITHJAMON
01-22-2011, 01:59 PM
LMAO! This is fantastic.
Though, if you read carefully, he gave a pretty major spoiler in there -- and one huge bit about the dynamics of two characters' relationships.
:up: That interview sounds great, thanks Bosef.
X-Maniac
01-22-2011, 02:02 PM
OMG...
I can't believe this...
I...agree....with you...
Why's that so astonishing?
I've got a lot of knowledge/ideas when it comes to X-Men. It should be put to better use...
Dark Raven
01-22-2011, 02:50 PM
Jennifer Lawrence [i.e. Raven Darkholme/Mystique] is going to pop.
:cwink:
So a wardrobe malfunction is in the pipeline.:up:
Kane52630
01-22-2011, 02:56 PM
James McAvoy on Jimmy Kimmel
Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
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BenReilly
01-22-2011, 03:02 PM
Jennifer Lawrence was also on Jimmy Kimmel this week:
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She's awesome. :hrt:
protocida
01-22-2011, 03:10 PM
The movie looks interesting.
squeekness
01-22-2011, 03:38 PM
James McAvoy on Jimmy Kimmel
Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
_RLCYNDhIwI&hd=1That was hilarious! :D
EnDz0n3
01-22-2011, 03:57 PM
I know Vaughn is more than likely joking about the Twilight part but when put together with Bryan ALMOST casting Taylor Lautner, it doesn't encourage much confidence...
psyonic
01-22-2011, 04:02 PM
So a wardrobe malfunction is in the pipeline.:up:
Sure, but I was thinking of a different pop .. one usually followed by the cries of a baby ..
EnDz0n3
01-22-2011, 04:18 PM
Jennifer Lawrence was also on Jimmy Kimmel this week:
qAfUs2Bpo5M
oapL_2xa2ow
She's awesome. :hrt:
I've never seen her in anything (haven't seen Winter's Bone yet) but she does sound awesome. I loved the cheers from the audience when she said she was playing Mystique.
Oh and I love her last name :p
cronosred
01-22-2011, 04:23 PM
I can't wait for this film , I think Vaughn will do a great job.
Mulholland '49
01-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Checkout the headline CBM made for the latest Matthew Vaughn interview. :whatever:
Project862006
01-22-2011, 05:41 PM
^sad part is most of them believe that this movie will be like twilight so sad bunch of trolls over at CBM
cronosred
01-22-2011, 05:42 PM
Checkout the headline CBM made for the latest Matthew Vaughn interview. :whatever:
And it looks like people are freaking out about it over there as well. It's sad people don't take the time to think about what he is actually saying.
Project862006
01-22-2011, 05:52 PM
lol it is so funny one guy replied thank you Matthew now i am saving my money lol
another guy was how do you know he is joking it is written not video tape LOL
Mulholland '49
01-22-2011, 06:14 PM
I'm sick of everyone's bias against this movie. Fans are so hypocritical.
ie) Fans defend Green Lantern's awful CGI outfit, Cap's rubber condom helmet, and Kurt Cobain Thor... but they just love to tear this movie to shreds. :doh:
Oh well, can't get blood from a stone I guess.
(ps I still want to see these films)
I wouldn't worry about it. If the movie is good, the quality will speak for itself, regardless of any misinterpreted interviews, promotional pictures, or shooting schedules.
danoyse
01-22-2011, 08:01 PM
I've never seen her in anything (haven't seen Winter's Bone yet) but she does sound awesome. I loved the cheers from the audience when she said she was playing Mystique.
Oh and I love her last name :p
I like her first name...since it's the same as mine. :oldrazz:
And she was terrific in Winter's Bone. :up:
protocida
01-22-2011, 08:11 PM
Danoyse... Is a chick?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Fz0nFtkQKXE/S7EfNAyvVLI/AAAAAAAAAGY/BiGHDPVFY1M/s1600/m-night-shyamalan.jpg
danoyse
01-22-2011, 08:20 PM
Danoyse... Is a chick?
Of course. :awesome:
Matt Mortem
01-22-2011, 08:34 PM
The plot thickens......
Silvermoth
01-22-2011, 08:54 PM
I hope we get to see this shirt in the movie...
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5872/426154337993l.jpg
Obsidian Idea
01-22-2011, 09:16 PM
I'm not liking all the ragging either...I think the problem is, sometimes we just get too caught up in these comic characters. Yeah we love to read about them and see them interpreted into other media...but they're not real.
We can almost never, light-heartedly go and appreciate a comic movie or tv interpretation without acting like the world is coming to an end if it's not done the way we want it. It's just a movie based on a comic book...your life does not ride or die on it.
If it's bad, then it was a bad, if it's good, then it was good. Life goes on. I'm going to go and see Mr. Vaughn's First Class and I will come here and give my opinion once I've see it. Then I will go on with my life whether I liked it or not.
Matt Mortem
01-22-2011, 09:16 PM
Why would that shirt be in the film?
newwaveboy87
01-23-2011, 03:16 AM
Sure, but I was thinking of a different pop .. one usually followed by the cries of a baby ..
I somehow don't think that's exactly what he meant given the context. He said that this time next year his cast was going to be hugely popular and in-demand. That Jennifer Lawrence and Nicholas Hault would "pop," that Kevin Bacon was a revelation, and that January Jones had star potential.
Now, I'm not saying that it definitely wasn't a play on words, but it seems unlikely given the textual evidence around it. It seems like he was just pimping out his cast and movie.
dark_b
01-23-2011, 07:37 AM
I've never seen her in anything (haven't seen Winter's Bone yet) but she does sound awesome. I loved the cheers from the audience when she said she was playing Mystique.
Oh and I love her last name :pyou mean the forced cheers that every talk show uses every 2 minutes on every bad joke?
come on :cwink:
AVEITWITHJAMON
01-23-2011, 08:36 AM
Jennifer Lawrence was also on Jimmy Kimmel this week:
qAfUs2Bpo5M
oapL_2xa2ow
She's awesome. :hrt:
She is fantastic in every way!
Hellion
01-23-2011, 10:11 AM
I hope we get to see this shirt in the movie...
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5872/426154337993l.jpg
I love that shirt, I got one as soon as I found out they made/sell them...:hrt:
Wolverine1988
01-23-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm sick of everyone's bias against this movie. Fans are so hypocritical.
ie) Fans defend Green Lantern's awful CGI outfit, Cap's rubber condom helmet, and Kurt Cobain Thor... but they just love to tear this movie to shreds. :doh:
Oh well, can't get blood from a stone I guess.
(ps I still want to see these films)
Green Lantern looked horrible in that trailer, not even the CGI but it looked like Ryan Reynolds playing the same character he does in every movie
Captain America is directed by Joe Johnston who doesn't have the best track record in terms of making good films,
Thor does look good imo, but i unfortunatley don't think it will be that sucesfull at the box office.
Hellion
01-23-2011, 10:35 AM
Green Lantern looked horrible in that trailer, not even the CGI but it looked like Ryan Reynolds playing the same character he does in every movie
Captain America is directed by Joe Johnston who doesn't have the best track record in terms of making good films,
Thor does look good imo, but i unfortunatley don't think it will be that sucesfull at the box office.
RR Should have stuck with Deadpool...
I'll wait for final judgement on Cap and Thor, I just really want those to be great.
protocida
01-23-2011, 10:39 AM
Green Lantern looks great.
Not in that first trailer, but I'm reserving judgment.
Not in that first trailer, but I'm reserving judgment.
The Guard
01-23-2011, 10:44 AM
So Vaughn basically admitted to lying about why he left THE LAST STAND. Stand up move, interesting that he ended up thinking that it was him who was the issue, not the production's timeframe.
Unless he's lying again.
Still, it's nice to see him talk about FIRST CLASS, and I love what he's saying.
Marvel
01-23-2011, 10:54 AM
It was the perfect time for that Matthew Vaughn interview to come out. I loved everything he had to say and it seemed to quiet a lot of the critics on regular movie forums everywhere. Fanboys are going to nitpick and nothing will stop that from happening. He even adressed that...
Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do, you may anger some of the die-hard fans
?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong. One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline. I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work. So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot.
He has a point to a degree especially when you factor in that Ultimate Universe crap. If the Ultimate Universe can reinvent so much, why not the film universe? As long as they stay true to the essence of the characters they do use...
protocida
01-23-2011, 11:00 AM
Here's a collection of everything that we know about the Plot so far:
The movie is set in 1962.
Humanity is still unaware of the existence of mutants.
The CIA finds out billionaire Sebastian Shaw, creator of a secret society for rich people called "The Hellfire Club", is secretly a mutant with the power to absorb other peoples' talents that is planning to use the Cuban Missile Crisis as a way to start World War III in order to weaken the governments and open way for him to conquer the world.
Shaw is aided by Emma Frost, a powerful telepath that can also turn her skin into diamond and fights for what she believes is the best for the mutant kind.
The Hellfire Club's enforcers include Azazel, a demon-looking mutant that can teleport, control fire and is a skilled swordsman; and Riptide, a mutant that can control the winds and spin his body until it becomes a tornado.
To stop the Hellfire Club, CIA hires mutants Charles Xavier, a powerful telepath; and Erik Lensherr, who can control metal in all its forms, to put together a team alongside human scientist Dra. Moira McTaggart and her boss, the Man in Black.
The team, nicknamed "X-Men", is formed by:
Alex Summers, AKA Havok. Cyclops' older brother that can absorb solar energy and convert it into energy blasts that he shoots out of his chest.
Hank McCoy, AKA Beast. A young scientist who, during the course of the movie, becomes blue and furry.
Raven Darkholme, AKA Mystique. A young shapeshifter who is found at a orphanage. Is eventually divided between who to follow, Xavier or Lensherr, and chased by Azazel, who wants her to have his child.
Sean Cassidy, AKA Banshee. Moira's assistant who can emit a powerful supersonic scream.
Angel Salvatore. Rebellious girl with insect physiology who posseses folding fly-like wings that she hides using tattoos that cover her body, especially her back.
Armando Muñoz, AKA Darwin. A mutant with the power to adapt itself to any environment due to "reactive evolution".
Lensherr is the X-Men's field leader, while Xavier stays behind, coordinating the team trough a mind-link, and rarely participates the battles.
Xavier is somewhat arrogant, elitist, womanizing and a drinker, whereas Lensherr is a man tormented by the death of his parents in a Nazi Concentration Camp and the death of his wife and daughter during a riot caused by the discovery that he is a mutant.
Xavier, Lensherr and Moira have a love triangle.
The Man in Black is secretly working with the Hellfire Club.
Xavier and Magneto eventually split, with Magneto creating the Brotherhood of Mutants alongside Mystique.
Xavier is crippled during a crash-landing of the X-Jet and goes bald after using latent telekinetic powers to rise a nuclear submarine that had been damaged by Azazel out of water.
The movie's finale takes place in a island, where Havok and Beast protect Xavier from Magneto while Mystique fights Azazel and Banshee, Darwin and Angel fight Riptide.
The movie begins with a Flashback of Magneto's origin in the Concentration Camp in 1942, followed by a Flashback of Xavier's origin, followed by how the two men meet, to then jump into the main Plot.
The X-Men have blue and yellow uniforms, but they rarely use it until the final battle.
The movie details the construction of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, the Cerebro and Magneto's helmet.
Poetic Chaos
01-23-2011, 11:15 AM
I'm glad this thread remains so positive because just reading the comments on the interview article pisses me off. I thought that kinda craziness was reserved for Batfans but I guess every group has it's extremists.
Project862006
01-23-2011, 11:27 AM
Its CBM they think because it does'nt have jean and cyclops in it then it will be complete crap it does'nt matter that we got singer and vaughn making the film or fassebnder,mcavoy,january,byrne,platt,bacon,etc acting in it.
squeekness
01-23-2011, 11:43 AM
This film is too well casted to suck entirely. :) I am sure I will like it just as much as the others and I've liked the whole run so far.
Doctor Jones
01-23-2011, 11:53 AM
I love what Vaughn has to say about this film. It makes me more excited. Modeling Erik on Connery's Bond and having the CIA involved? It makes me so goddamn excited.
And he's right about the fans. I'm glad he has the balls to actually say it.
A Necessary Evil
01-23-2011, 11:55 AM
I think it's actually gonna be good. IIRC, neither directors of X3/WO really spoke of their film, and vaughn is all over it....which speaks volumes.
Mulholland '49
01-23-2011, 12:27 PM
Here's a collection of everything that we know about the Plot so far:
The movie is set in 1942.
Humanity is still unaware of the existence of mutants.
The CIA finds out billionaire Sebastian Shaw, creator of a secret society for rich people called "The Hellfire Club", is secretly a mutant with the power to absorb other peoples' talents that is planning to use the Cuban Missile Crisis as a way to start World War III in order to weaken the governments and open way for him to conquer the world.
Shaw is aided by Emma Frost, a powerful telepath that can also turn her skin into diamond and fights for what she believes is the best for the mutant kind.
The Hellfire Club's enforcers include Azazel, a demon-looking mutant that can teleport, control fire and is a skilled swordsman; and Riptide, a mutant that can control the winds and spin his body until it becomes a tornado.
To stop the Hellfire Club, CIA hires mutants Charles Xavier, a powerful telepath; and Erik Lensherr, who can control metal in all its forms, to put together a team alongside human scientist Dra. Moira McTaggart and her boss, the Man in Black.
The team, nicknamed "X-Men", is formed by:
Alex Summers, AKA Havok. Cyclops' older brother that can absorb solar energy and convert it into energy blasts that he shoots out of his chest.
Hank McCoy, AKA Beast. A young scientist who, during the course of the movie, becomes blue and furry.
Raven Darkholme, AKA Mystique. A young shapeshifter who is found at a orphanage. Is eventually divided between who to follow, Xavier or Lensherr, and chased by Azazel, who wants her to have his child.
Sean Cassidy, AKA Banshee. Moira's assistant who can emit a powerful supersonic scream.
Angel Salvatore. Rebellious girl with insect physiology who posseses folding fly-like wings that she hides using tattoos that cover her body, especially her back.
Armando Muñoz, AKA Darwin. A mutant with the power to adapt itself to any environment due to "reactive evolution".
Lensherr is the X-Men's field leader, while Xavier stays behind, coordinating the team trough a mind-link, and rarely participates the battles.
Xavier is somewhat arrogant, elitist, womanizing and a drinker, whereas Lensherr is a man tormented by the death of his parents in a Nazi Concentration Camp and the death of his wife and daughter during a riot caused by the discovery that he is a mutant.
Xavier, Lensherr and Moira have a love triangle.
The Man in Black is secretly working with the Hellfire Club.
Xavier and Magneto eventually split, with Magneto creating the Brotherhood of Mutants alongside Mystique.
Xavier is crippled during a crash-landing of the X-Jet and goes bald after using latent telekinetic powers to rise a nuclear submarine that had been damaged by Azazel out of water.
The movie's finale takes place in a island, where Havok and Beast protect Xavier from Magneto while Mystique fights Azazel and Banshee, Darwin and Angel fight Riptide.
The movie begins with a Flashback of Magneto's origin in the Concentration Camp in 1942, followed by a Flashback of Xavier's origin, followed by how the two men meet, to then jump into the main Plot.
The X-Men have blue and yellow uniforms, but they rarely use it until the final battle.
The movie details the construction of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, the Cerebro and Magneto's helmet.
It's set in 1962.
Hellion
01-23-2011, 01:11 PM
It's set in 1962.
Ditto...I think Magneto's origin will be the only thing set ing 42
The Bathammer
01-23-2011, 01:16 PM
A lot of that stuff that is "known" is inaccurate. The rest is from the comics, and isn't necessarily part of the film. Some of that is right.
protocida
01-23-2011, 01:17 PM
Care to point out what is wrong?
Yeah, no idea where protocida got half of that stuff.
Kane52630
01-23-2011, 01:19 PM
Yeah, no idea where protocida got half of that stuff.
I know where
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*le toot*
Aesop Rocks
01-23-2011, 01:23 PM
MGM Lion = la la la~
The Bathammer
01-23-2011, 01:25 PM
Among other things:
Humanity in total being unaware of the existence of mutants.
The CIA uncovering Shaw's plot.
Alex Summers connection to Cyclops.
Raven's origins.
Eric, Xavier and Mystique don't quite have a love triangle.
The Man in Black's allegiance.
The nature of Xavier's crippling.
The location and nature of the finale.
Hellion
01-23-2011, 01:26 PM
A lot of that stuff that is "known" is inaccurate. The rest is from the comics, and isn't necessarily part of the film. Some of that is right.
Yeah, had to double read... I was kinda thinking, did I miss some news the last coulpe days?
gkokujin
01-23-2011, 01:30 PM
da hell did RIPTIDE come from?
did i miss an article?
oh well, it would be nice if the movie alluded to En Sabah Nur :D
Dr.Negative
01-23-2011, 01:31 PM
I'm starting to like some parts to this movie, theres a part of me that really has no idea where they are going to go with this movie. But im still unsure about them having it set in the 60's. I know the comics came out in the 60's but i always felt the movies portrayed the x-men to be within a more recent history as in 80's.
protocida
01-23-2011, 01:32 PM
Humanity in total being unaware of the existence of mutants.
Didn't Matthew Vaughn say that mutants are not public knowledge yet himself?
The CIA uncovering Shaw's plot.
OK.
Alex Summers connection to Cyclops.
I find it hard to believe he won't be Cyclops' brother, but OK.
Raven's origins.
There were Set pics of Xavier picking her up in a orphanage, as far as I recall. But OK, I might be wrong.
Eric, Xavier and Mystique don't quite have a love triangle.
OK.
The Man in Black's allegiance.
It's from that Trailer Description that was also the first the notice that Havok shoots energy blasts out of his chest, among other small tidbits. But OK.
The nature of Xavier's crippling.
OK.
The location and nature of the finale.
OK. The scene with the crash-landing and the subsequent fights are in, but not as the ending. Understandable.
Dr.Negative
01-23-2011, 01:40 PM
I dont know about you lot but does anyone else reckon we will also find out how xavier got ahold of the blackbird.
Im thinking, looking at the set photos with a broken blackbird on the beach. That is how they obtained it during a fight.
Crockett
01-23-2011, 01:41 PM
I'm guessing the CIA will provide them the Blackbird.
Dr.Negative
01-23-2011, 01:47 PM
yeah i dont understand that, Why are mutants being helped by the CIA. the comics always portrayed the goverment as being afraid of the mutants, if anything it would be more understandable if say Sebastian Shaw was working with the CIA regarding mutants. Mostly because you wouldnt know he was a mutant himself unless he displayed the abilities. Where as X-Men has a girl with wings, a blue beast and a blue morphing girl.
Crockett
01-23-2011, 02:05 PM
I don't know, maybe the goverment was on a good terms with the mutants when they first revealed themself to the public and are willing to help to stop Shaw but that could be before Shaw or Erik did something that cause a bad rep for the mutants. I'm just speculating right now based on a few infos we've got but it'll make sense in the movie.
Dr.Negative
01-23-2011, 02:29 PM
yeah i think they have put in misleading stuff in
EnDz0n3
01-23-2011, 03:09 PM
you mean the forced cheers that every talk show uses every 2 minutes on every bad joke?
come on :cwink:
:whatever:
icekid
01-23-2011, 04:47 PM
I wonder if they will somehow recreate the Jean grey recruitment scene from X3's intro or in some way allude to it. Thing is, during this scene the school was already established and such, while Xavier and Lensheer are still allies. Also this scene was set in the 60's aswell, and the this film takes place in '62.
Now if this film has the two becoming enemies by the end and the school having not been fully established, it directly conflicts with the original trilogy. We can all pretend and hope one day X3 will be erased from history, but that's not exactly realistic.
The Original Bamfer
01-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Well, well... I've been gone the past six days and have oh so much to catch up on. I do have all five stills and the teaser poster, but if there are high quality versions, I'd greatly appreciate some direction. :up:
Kane52630
01-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Well, well... I've been gone the past six days and have oh so much to catch up on. I do have all five stills and the teaser poster, but if there are high quality versions, I'd greatly appreciate some direction. :up:
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ329CBE2E.jpg
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ3231E640.jpg
The Original Bamfer
01-23-2011, 05:11 PM
Thanks, are there any higher quality versions of any of the other three images?
Well, well... I've been gone the past six days and have oh so much to catch up on. I do have all five stills and the teaser poster, but if there are high quality versions, I'd greatly appreciate some direction. :up:
I'll send you a PM.
batboy99
01-23-2011, 06:24 PM
If there is a higher quality image of Emma and Sebastian and the one outside the mansion, I would greatly appreciate it.
batboy99
01-23-2011, 06:29 PM
It's set in 1962.
I hate myself for reading that, but man does it ever get me excited. Reminds me of the time before x3 and how excited I was.(Though I have faith this will actually be good)
If there is a higher quality image of Emma and Sebastian and the one outside the mansion, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://i56.tinypic.com/11wg2mr.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/15zsfu1.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/1zvbk9f.jpg
:o
batboy99
01-23-2011, 06:44 PM
I.heart.You.
DCUmoviepage
01-23-2011, 07:10 PM
And he's right about the fans. I'm glad he has the balls to actually say it.
Agreed.
Loganbabe
01-23-2011, 08:51 PM
The two Prof. X even dress alike! :awesome:
http://i55.tinypic.com/34gu7eu.jpg
MoPlaYa
01-24-2011, 02:20 AM
The two Prof. X even dress alike! :awesome:
http://i55.tinypic.com/34gu7eu.jpg
when was this taken?
Crockett
01-24-2011, 02:41 AM
when was this taken?
At the Gnomeo & Juliet premiere, there's more pics that Loganbabe posted from the premiere at the McAvoy/Xavier thread.
Electrix
01-24-2011, 09:38 AM
Better image:
http://i56.tinypic.com/33cqhe1.jpg
Angamb
01-24-2011, 09:58 AM
thats lovely!!
the two Xaviers together, ohhhhhhhhhh
Loganbabe
01-24-2011, 11:06 AM
Aww, how adorable is that? :hrt:
Hopefully they did find a little time to discuss some "Xavierisms"! :woot:
Guess I should be the last post in this thread before the new one pops up.
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