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Lightning Strykez!
07-16-2010, 08:24 PM
Bwahahaahah....:p:up:

I'm sure the film will draw from both 616 and Ultimate material. It'll be fine. Let's pray they pull from the Ultimate universe for the costumes/uniforms.

TNC9852002
07-16-2010, 09:59 PM
Well, the whole movie looked pretty cheap if you want to look at it from that angle.. :p

danoyse
07-17-2010, 12:12 AM
THIS JUST IN: Kevin Bacon reportedly signed on to First Class because he absolutely loved the script! That confirms it, First Class will be based on the Footloose continuity!

:eek:

And as a result, the First Class Senior Prom will look like this:

5udpl0CQa0o

:oldrazz:

Mace Dolex
07-17-2010, 12:18 AM
Doesn't it seem that FOX is hiring mostly foreign actors to emulate the success of the mostly foreign cast in Christopher Nolan's Batman films? like maybe hiring American teen actors won't take the script seriously and they'll get caught up in the Hollywood glamour.

just a thought you know.

JP
07-17-2010, 12:30 AM
Doesn't it seem that FOX is hiring mostly foreign actors to emulate the success of the mostly foreign cast in Christopher Nolan's Batman films? like maybe hiring American teen actors won't take the script seriously and they'll get caught up in the Hollywood glamour.

just a thought you know.

Patrick Stewart - British
Ian McKellen - British
Famke Janssen - Dutch
Hugh Jackman - Australian
Brian Cox - Scottish
Alan Cumming - Scottish
Anna Paquin - Canadian
Ray Park - Scottish
Tyler Mane - Canadian
Shawn Ashmore - Canadian

Squidboy
07-17-2010, 01:17 AM
Need I mention the bathroom scene? :p

FaT_tONle
07-17-2010, 09:34 AM
I guess America's acting talent is in the ****ters at the moment... or maybe local actors on these foreign filming locations are cheaper.

Lightning Strykez!
07-17-2010, 10:59 AM
I think it may have more to do with the director's preferences and connections than anything else.

chamber-music
07-17-2010, 12:06 PM
I think its the directors preference + the fact its being filmed in the UK + the fact their are good actors all over the world who can play a number of roles. Doesn't necessarily mean the U.S doesn't have good actors or won't take roles unless they are payed huge wages.

chamber-music
07-17-2010, 12:09 PM
Patrick Stewart - British
Ian McKellen - British
Famke Janssen - Dutch
Hugh Jackman - Australian
Brian Cox - Scottish
Alan Cumming - Scottish
Anna Paquin - Canadian
Ray Park - Scottish
Tyler Mane - Canadian
Shawn Ashmore - Canadian

Scotland is part of Britain so Park, Cox, Cumming ect are British

Ellen Page - Canadian
Vinnie Jones - British

danoyse
07-17-2010, 12:11 PM
I think it may have more to do with the director's preferences and connections than anything else.

Exactly. :up:

Project862006
07-17-2010, 12:27 PM
Vaughn tends to cast British actors anyways does'nt he

marvelrobbins
07-17-2010, 12:56 PM
The only American actors really used In the X-Men films have been Halle Berry,James Marsden,Rebecca Romijn,Kelly Hu,and now Kevin Bacon.So this Isn't something new.

JP
07-17-2010, 12:58 PM
Precisely.

Electrix
07-17-2010, 01:06 PM
Vaughn tends to cast British actors anyways does'nt he

The majority of the actors in Kick-Ass were American, and he had people such as Claire Danes, Michelle Pfeiffer and Robert De Niro in Stardust.

Stardust and Layer Cake were set and shot in Britain so it made sense to have a mainly British cast.

I can see why he cast British for Xavier and Emma Frost (intelligent sounding and added *****iness for Frost) but he isn't against casting Americans by any means.

marvelrobbins
07-17-2010, 01:14 PM
I forget to Include Kelsey Grammer among the american X-Men actors.And remember Vaughn actully cast him during his stint as The last Stand Director.He also cast Vinnie JOnes as Juggennaut but let's not hold that against him.

JP
07-17-2010, 01:38 PM
I forget to Include Kelsey Grammer among the american X-Men actors.And remember Vaughn actully cast him during his stint as The last Stand Director.He also cast Vinnie JOnes as Juggennaut but let's not hold that against him.

Well, it was Ratner who made Juggernaut a one-liner guy.

But, yes. Vaughn gave us the brilliance of Grammar as Beast.

Lightning Strykez!
07-17-2010, 06:15 PM
I just want him to cast an native African or Egyptian for Storm. Or at least someone with a natural accent ergo Djimon Honsou. Wouldn't that be hot?

Project862006
07-17-2010, 06:37 PM
i want an accent to it would feel i don't know authentic

gap5ewl
07-17-2010, 11:18 PM
Yeah, I mean she did grow up in Africa after all lol. At least they attempted to do so in the first movie. Berry's accent wasn't terrible but it seemed to have an off button occasionally.

marvelrobbins
07-17-2010, 11:23 PM
Well If you saw the Deleted scenes on the DVD there was originally more an attempt to give Storm a accent.Susposly some thought the general audence would be confused on why Halle Berry was speaking In accent since they dropped the Sroem origin scene In
africa.

TNC9852002
07-18-2010, 11:16 AM
Her accent sounded good in that deleted classroom scene.

The Englishman
07-18-2010, 12:37 PM
Patrick Stewart - British
Ian McKellen - British
Famke Janssen - Dutch
Hugh Jackman - Australian
Brian Cox - British
Alan Cumming - British
Anna Paquin - Canadian
Ray Park - British
Tyler Mane - Canadian
Shawn Ashmore - Canadian
Fixed

ALittlePush
07-19-2010, 06:47 AM
ok, I know this is probably the wrong place to post this but I had a random thought and didn't want to start a new thread unless it was absolutely necessary.

What if Wolverine was impregnated by a facehugger alien. Would the alien be able to burst out of his chest considering his ribcage would be laced with adamantium? Would the alien's blood be able to corrode the adamantium? Would Wolverine's healing factor work if the alien was trapped inside him trying to get out?

X-Maniac
07-19-2010, 07:21 AM
ok, I know this is probably the wrong place to post this but I had a random thought and didn't want to start a new thread unless it was absolutely necessary.

What if Wolverine was impregnated by a facehugger alien. Would the alien be able to burst out of his chest considering his ribcage would be laced with adamantium? Would the alien's blood be able to corrode the adamantium? Would Wolverine's healing factor work if the alien was trapped inside him trying to get out?

This is the wrong section entirely for this. There is a X-Men 1, 2 & 3 + Wolverine section and also an X-World section.

TheComicbookKid
07-19-2010, 07:21 AM
http://blastr.com/2010/07/bryan-singer-talks-to-us-about-those-taylor-lautner-x-men-rumors.php

Jesus Christ, Singer. Good and Lautner? Stop trying to ruin your own movie.

TheFuture
07-19-2010, 09:26 AM
So Singer actually wanted Lautner?

:facepalm:

ALittlePush
07-19-2010, 09:34 AM
This is the wrong section entirely for this. There is a X-Men 1, 2 & 3 + Wolverine section and also an X-World section.

My apologies. It's kind of a catch-22. It's not worthy of its own thread, yet at the same time, it doesn't really fit into any pre-existing thread.

Charlie No-One
07-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Lautner and Singer are friends. Launter was seen going to a party thrown by Singer a few months ago. A lot of gay celebrities were there. Even though that doesn't mean anything, I pray that Launter is gay. We need more out celebs.

S.A.A.D.
07-19-2010, 11:19 AM
I couldn't careless about the movie,but,Lautner better not be in this movie. I don't even care if his character got killed off quick or just had a little bit of screen time. He should continue to pick roles from garbage movies only,so he doesn't ruin movies that have potential to be good,everything seemed
basically exceptional regarding First Class before this Lautner talk started.

JP
07-19-2010, 11:27 AM
Except he's NOT IN THE MOVIE.

Jeez.

chaseter
07-19-2010, 11:34 AM
You couldn't care less about the movie but you care if Lautner is in the movie because you think he will make it bad...yeah that makes sense.

chaseter
07-19-2010, 11:46 AM
I would be so happy if Angel was in this...it would confirm that it was a reboot.

Superhero 101
07-19-2010, 11:49 AM
Angel?

TheFuture
07-19-2010, 11:50 AM
Wait, back up....casting for Cyclops? Have I missed something or is Aaron Johnson not earmarked for that role? :huh:

JP
07-19-2010, 12:03 PM
Angel wouldn't necessarily make this a reboot. When you think about it, he didn't meet Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, or Jean. He only met Storm and Beast. We don't know if Storm is even in the movie, and if he doesn't come into contact with Beast then it's all fair game.

Just a thought. And again, I wouldn't believe much of anything from that site anyway.

X-Maniac
07-19-2010, 12:08 PM
Lautner and Singer are friends. Launter was seen going to a party thrown by Singer a few months ago. A lot of gay celebrities were there. Even though that doesn't mean anything, I pray that Launter is gay. We need more out celebs.

Well, that's all well and good. Lautner may well be gay - there was a big enough hint in New Moon when his character ran off into the woods with the beefy shirtless boys rather than stay with Bella :hehe:

I've nothing against him...and he's even the right sort of age for one of the students in the movie...but he feels too much part of the Twilight hysteria (which is probably a big part of the reason they want him). I think it would take me right out of the movie if he popped up and the auditorium was full of teenage girls screaming and fainting.

Clearly they want some 'big name' recognition added to the cast and also Singer is keen to cast his friends/associates, as he has done in the past. Thankfully we have Matthew Vaughn to balance out the Hollywood excesses.

X-Maniac
07-19-2010, 12:13 PM
Angel wouldn't necessarily make this a reboot. When you think about it, he didn't meet Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops, or Jean. He only met Storm and Beast. We don't know if Storm is even in the movie, and if he doesn't come into contact with Beast then it's all fair game.

Just a thought. And again, I wouldn't believe much of anything from that site anyway.

Angel was 12 in his X3 flashback scene (set in 1995), so he was born in 1983 and aged 22 in X3. So unless they are changing/ignoring things, he wouldn't be in First Class and fit the current continuity. I seriously doubt they'd use Angel again; he belongs more in an X4.

TheVelvetOnion
07-19-2010, 12:13 PM
Also if Morlock Massicure did occure it would bridge the gap between wolverine movie sabretooth to the one we saw in x1

JP
07-19-2010, 12:39 PM
When you read that speculation. you can only think Morlock Massicure, all we need now is Gambit

Really? Sounds more like Marauders to me. :yay:

TheVelvetOnion
07-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Really? Sounds more like Marauders to me. :yay:

Thats what i ment

chaseter
07-19-2010, 01:09 PM
Well, that's all well and good. Lautner may well be gay - there was a big enough hint in New Moon when his character ran off into the woods with the beefy shirtless boys rather than stay with Bella :hehe:

I've nothing against him...and he's even the right sort of age for one of the students in the movie...but he feels too much part of the Twilight hysteria (which is probably a big part of the reason they want him). I think it would take me right out of the movie if he popped up and the auditorium was full of teenage girls screaming and fainting.

Clearly they want some 'big name' recognition added to the cast and also Singer is keen to cast his friends/associates, as he has done in the past. Thankfully we have Matthew Vaughn to balance out the Hollywood excesses.
That and Lautner is a terrible actor....I say this from having had the unfortunate opportunity of seeing Eclipse.

Abraham
07-19-2010, 01:27 PM
That and Lautner is a terrible actor....I say this from having had the unfortunate opportunity of seeing Eclipse.

never seen it, but love this quote (http://chud.com/articles/articles/24253/1/REVIEW-TWILIGHT-SAGA---ECLIPSE/Page1.html) about his performance in it:

Taylor Lautner, meanwhile, is mostly embarrassing. He comes across like a smart alecky rentboy, all shirtless poses and dense, sub-intellectual eyes. Lautner appears to have bought his own hype and he just keeps acting the **** out of every scene, filling every line reading with pulsating, hammy, unearned intensity. It's almost fascinating watching Lautner and Pattinson square off in a number of scenes, with the vampire essentially reducing his entire performance to shrugs and eyebrows set askew while the werewolf brings the simmering force of a hundred thousand high school Hamlets.

heh :awesome:

gap5ewl
07-19-2010, 01:28 PM
According to the artcile SHH! posted about Lautner, Meagan Good is up for a role as well. Could this perhaps confirm that Storm is in the film!??!

BTW, Meagen is freakin hottt.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt4/MichaelJay365/meagan_good.jpg

http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad105/3292/saw-5-meagan-good-2.jpg

Not sure about her acting chops though. I don't remember her in any significant roles.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/104181-singer-wanted-lautner-for-x-men-first-class

Charlie No-One
07-19-2010, 01:38 PM
Well, that's all well and good. Lautner may well be gay - there was a big enough hint in New Moon when his character ran off into the woods with the beefy shirtless boys rather than stay with Bella :hehe:

I've nothing against him...and he's even the right sort of age for one of the students in the movie...but he feels too much part of the Twilight hysteria (which is probably a big part of the reason they want him). I think it would take me right out of the movie if he popped up and the auditorium was full of teenage girls screaming and fainting.

Clearly they want some 'big name' recognition added to the cast and also Singer is keen to cast his friends/associates, as he has done in the past. Thankfully we have Matthew Vaughn to balance out the Hollywood excesses.

I agree. I wouldn't want him in the film either. I was just commenting on his sexuality.

chamber-music
07-19-2010, 02:16 PM
I probably wouldn't have a problem with Lautner being cast if Singer/Fox said he was perfect for the role they had for him but it seems like they just wanted him in the movie because his a flavour of the month actor and he might attract some twilight fans which just seems cynical and shows a lacking of artistic credibility. I dislike that kind of stuff.

X-Maniac
07-19-2010, 02:16 PM
According to the artcile SHH! posted about Lautner, Meagan Good is up for a role as well. Could this perhaps confirm that Storm is in the film!??!


We've been over this. Please try to keep up.

She is not up for a role. She was suggested as a good choice by a gossip site.

Here's the link (http://dimewars.com/Blog/X-Men--First-Class---Meagan-Good-Alleged-To-Be-Cast-As-Halle-Berry-s-Replacement-For-Storm-.aspx?BlogID=c29351fe-c8a3-48dd-b938-f994ef3bd854) - although the headline suggests she is 'alleged to be cast', the text says: "With the pool of black actresses to fill the role that Halle Berry plays in the original installments, the pickings are slim. You've got Zoe Saldana and Meagan Good as the only easy fills for that role and Zoe's price is on cloud nine after scoring big in Avatar. Meagan Good is the clear choice for X-Men: First Class. How long do you guys think it'll take before she gets that phone call?".

This makes it clear they are just trying to start a rumour. She's too old (28) anyway, unless she can pass for a teenager.

Please stop the 'Chinese whispers' that will next be having her cast in the role before we know it.

The same happened a year or so ago when MTV did a 'fantasy casting' and suggested Rihanna for Storm. Next we knew, gossip websites were saying Rihanna was cast as Storm. And that was before there was even a First Class to be cast in.

JP
07-19-2010, 04:32 PM
Fixed

And Canadians are technically American. I just wanted to be specific, though I suppose if I wanted specificity I should have said English instead of British.

gap5ewl
07-19-2010, 04:41 PM
We've been over this. Please try to keep up.

She is not up for a role. She was suggested as a good choice by a gossip site.

Here's the link (http://dimewars.com/Blog/X-Men--First-Class---Meagan-Good-Alleged-To-Be-Cast-As-Halle-Berry-s-Replacement-For-Storm-.aspx?BlogID=c29351fe-c8a3-48dd-b938-f994ef3bd854) - although the headline suggests she is 'alleged to be cast', the text says: "With the pool of black actresses to fill the role that Halle Berry plays in the original installments, the pickings are slim. You've got Zoe Saldana and Meagan Good as the only easy fills for that role and Zoe's price is on cloud nine after scoring big in Avatar. Meagan Good is the clear choice for X-Men: First Class. How long do you guys think it'll take before she gets that phone call?".

This makes it clear they are just trying to start a rumour. She's too old (28) anyway, unless she can pass for a teenager.

Please stop the 'Chinese whispers' that will next be having her cast in the role before we know it.

The same happened a year or so ago when MTV did a 'fantasy casting' and suggested Rihanna for Storm. Next we knew, gossip websites were saying Rihanna was cast as Storm. And that was before there was even a First Class to be cast in.

I looked through some of pages and didn't see it?? :huh:And I wasn't implying she had the role.

Jake Cassidy
07-19-2010, 06:02 PM
I would be so happy if Angel was in this...it would confirm that it was a reboot.

Multiple Man is supposed to be in it as well. Maybe it is a prequel, but only to the first two movies. The Last Stand may be ignored altogether. Just like Superman Returns completely disregarded Superman III & IV.

JP
07-19-2010, 06:07 PM
I'm 95% sure Multiple Man is not in the film.

Lightning Strykez!
07-19-2010, 07:42 PM
Well, that's all well and good. Lautner may well be gay - there was a big enough hint in New Moon when his character ran off into the woods with the beefy shirtless boys rather than stay with Bella.

:funny::up:

I seriously do not see the appeal of Lautner at all. Aside from his flawed acting skills, he is not even remotely handsome in my opinion. True, he seems to have a bit of physique going for him, but the face? No. Werewolf indeed.

marvelrobbins
07-19-2010, 11:28 PM
The problem Is some of them are henchmen for MR Sinster and Inless reports of Kevin bacon as Sebsastin Shaw are wrong and he Is actully playing Sinster.Now If they are casting Angel what Is almost certainly happening If Bryan Singer convinced Fox to throw Out The Last Stand In Contunity as he did with Superman III and IV.Although I suspose they could fudge things and say Angel was a student and then left and had no further contact till the events of the Last Stand. Andrew Francis by the way was the voice of Iceman In X-Men evolution.

chamber-music
07-20-2010, 03:43 AM
Jason Behr is 36 so I hope his not playing a teenage student. Avalanche or Scalphunter perhaps.

Spider-Fan83
07-20-2010, 04:10 AM
definitely interesting that they mentioned, Scalphunter, whose origin is connected to Sinister... I mean, its such a random name to come up if not as part of Sinister’s story, so, perhaps there is something to the Mr. Sinister rumors

X-Maniac
07-20-2010, 08:38 AM
definitely interesting that they mentioned, Scalphunter, whose origin is hardly connected to Sinister... I mean, its such a random name to come up if not as part of Sinister’s story, so, perhaps there is something to the Mr. Sinister rumors

Scalphunter?

Could that be how Xavier loses his hair?! :wow: :hehe:

FaT_tONle
07-20-2010, 09:18 AM
If Angel is in the school I don't want to hear about TLS being a part of this continuity. That would basically be the last straw and would show that even Fox thought X-3 was pretty forgettable.

chaseter
07-20-2010, 09:40 AM
Leaving out TLS and Wolverine would be best for everyone.

marvelrobbins
07-20-2010, 10:31 AM
With Wolverine all they really have to ignore Is saying that girl wasn't really Emma Frost,and when they get to the time with the school already have Cyclops there.With the Last removed from Contunity they can Angel In First Class and approach Phoenix SInger was setting up.Assuming it IS X-Men VS Hellfire Club(and Scalphunter and other villiams associated with Sinster could be In FIlm Contunity henchman for Sebsastin Shaw and Emma Frost) they could take a page from Ultimate with them knowing about Jean's poential and want to use It(they could still have It fit X-Men and X2 by having Xavier at end putting blocks but here It would be to cutoff access to her full power and not the split personality crap In The Last Stand) Avalanche could be like Pyro In X2.A student who chooses to leave when Magneto goes her own way(and If Mystique Is a student she would go too) With Singer conceiving the story and producing,Wolverine 2 coming a short time later(most likely the following year) and the synpas keeping the Xavier and Magneto relationship from SInger's films.Not to mention Lauren Shuller Donner comparing first Class to X-Men and X2 I don't believe for a second this Is reboot.

chaseter
07-20-2010, 10:42 AM
With Wolverine they have to ignore Stewart as Professor X, Xavier getting the mutants from the facility, Wolverine helping them escape, the changes in actors for the other cast, why Emma is now part of the Hellfire club after being locked in a cage for years, and I hope they say how Cyclops got his powers instead of saying Stryker did something to him.

huzzah
07-20-2010, 10:54 AM
So at the beginning of the film will they have a disclaimer:

"For the purposes of enjoying this film, Xmen The Last Stand and Wolverine were figments of your imagination. Please empty your mind of any images you had of these films, as X1 and X2 are the only films of any relevance".

Squidboy
07-20-2010, 12:35 PM
With Wolverine they have to ignore Stewart as Professor X, Xavier getting the mutants from the facility, Wolverine helping them escape, the changes in actors for the other cast, why Emma is now part of the Hellfire club after being locked in a cage for years, and I hope they say how Cyclops got his powers instead of saying Stryker did something to him.

We saw Scott using his powers before Stryker getting to him, so that one shouldn't be a problem

chaseter
07-20-2010, 12:45 PM
Yeah but he could control it. I thought it was sort of lame that Stryker was the cause of Scott's issue with his sight and his powers.

TNC9852002
07-20-2010, 12:58 PM
Well, the movie didn't explicity confirm or deny any part of that.

chaseter
07-20-2010, 02:51 PM
So the cloth covering his eyes was for funzies? He is fine and gets captured by Sabretooth. The next time we see him we learn Stryker experimented on him and he cannot open his eyes without blasting his beam. That is a pretty strong implication that Stryker was the source of his problem with his powers.

If they are rebooting or showing proper origins without taking into account X3 or Wolverine (either would be great), then I just would like to see him and his brother together in an accident with his parents that kill his parents. No they don't have to do the crazy alien spaceship plot from the comics but a car wreck or a plane crash, etc. would be great imo.

JP
07-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Yeah but he could control it. I thought it was sort of lame that Stryker was the cause of Scott's issue with his sight and his powers.

Wait wait, whaaaa? I only saw the movie once, so maybe I wasn't paying attention. But, I did not get that impression at all. When his glasses came off in school, he shot a whole through the roof, and immediately closes his eyes after that.

Maybe I missed something? Again, I only saw it once.

marvelrobbins
07-20-2010, 03:27 PM
In Wolverine Cyclops can only control his beams by his eyes(or Stryker;s clouth) or glasses.I don't think we will actully see Xavier and magneto gather the students.I am betting they will have scenes of them both(Xavier discovering powers In his teens.We know they are casting a teenlookalike for James Mcavory and possiblty showing Magneto using his powers to kill those who prevented him from saving his wife and daughter.And In the magneto screenplay they had Magda die as well as their daughter,and could be one thing they are borrowing from the defunct Magneto screenplay) then their meeting becoming friends and begining to work together and then cut to years later with the school open.If the latest casting call IS right,and they are completly throwing out the Last Stand as part of film Contunity this suggests we might not see Jean till end of film.I will be glad when more Information comes out after the last tip of Information.

chaseter
07-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Wait wait, whaaaa? I only saw the movie once, so maybe I wasn't paying attention. But, I did not get that impression at all. When his glasses came off in school, he shot a whole through the roof, and immediately closes his eyes after that.

Maybe I missed something? Again, I only saw it once.

He was only wearing those glasses because he had a headache, or that was his excuse. The teacher wouldn't have asked him to remove them if he had a medical excuse or wore them every single day. They just looked like generic sunglasses to me.

spidey-dude
07-20-2010, 05:05 PM
that was just his excuse, he couldnt control his powers before his capture

BMM
07-20-2010, 05:41 PM
Cyclops cannot control his optic blasts, even before Stryker performs experiments on him. When we are first introduced to Cyclops, he is wearing glasses with Ruby Quartz lenses in them and refuses to take them off because he would either have to sit in class with his eyes closed, which probably wouldn't be okay with the teacher who is already annoyed by him, or expose himself as a mutant. As JP noted, when Sabretooth attacks Cyclops, Cyclops' glasses are knocked off, unleashing his optic blasts. Cyclops immediately shuts his eyes and keeps them closed, while Sabretooth pins him to the ground.

X-Maniac
07-20-2010, 06:44 PM
The problem Is some of them are henchmen for MR Sinster and Inless reports of Kevin bacon as Sebsastin Shaw are wrong and he Is actully playing Sinster.Now If they are casting Angel what Is almost certainly happening If Bryan Singer convinced Fox to throw Out The Last Stand In Contunity as he did with Superman III and IV.Although I suspose they could fudge things and say Angel was a student and then left and had no further contact till the events of the Last Stand. Andrew Francis by the way was the voice of Iceman In X-Men evolution.

Although it's being officially called a prequel, it is possible that some elements of the previous films will be ignored. If that's the case, then so be it. I'm far too pragmatic and realistic to be freaking out over that.

If Angel - and it's a very big if at the moment, as all we have is an unverified rumour - is in this, along with Sinister's Marauders, it sounds like a scenario is being created for the creation of the metal-winged Archangel, which is what Singer had intended to show in X2 before budget cuts forced it to be omitted.

Interesting stuff indeed. I think the guessing games will continue until the film is released, just as with the other X-movies.

Lightning Strykez!
07-20-2010, 06:59 PM
So at the beginning of the film will they have a disclaimer:

"For the purposes of enjoying this film, Xmen The Last Stand and Wolverine were figments of your imagination. Please empty your mind of any images you had of these films, as X1 and X2 are the only films of any relevance".

:lmao::funny:

Basically!

chaseter
07-21-2010, 08:48 AM
Cyclops cannot control his optic blasts, even before Stryker performs experiments on him. When we are first introduced to Cyclops, he is wearing glasses with Ruby Quartz lenses in them and refuses to take them off because he would either have to sit in class with his eyes closed, which probably wouldn't be okay with the teacher who is already annoyed by him, or expose himself as a mutant. As JP noted, when Sabretooth attacks Cyclops, Cyclops' glasses are knocked off, unleashing his optic blasts. Cyclops immediately shuts his eyes and keeps them closed, while Sabretooth pins him to the ground.

They are sunglasses...what if he looks to the right or the left or down or up where the lense doesn't cover his eyes:huh:You really think a teacher is going to tell Scott everyday to take off his glasses and he still be sitting in the classroom:huh:

I don't have the dvd or I would watch it (maybe) but I think he throws off his glasses and does his little air spin and then shoots at Sabretooth and he gets knocked out when Sabretooth lands on him.

I think it is more presumptuous to assume that he somehow got ruby quartz sunglasses specifically made for him by someone than Stryker being the cause of his problems with his powers. I think they just gave Scott red sunglasses so that the audience could easily identify him in the scene without giving a name.

TNC9852002
07-21-2010, 09:29 AM
I'm sorry, but you're looking too hard for something that doesn't have enough evidence to support either idea. It just doesn't make sense and it's not you, chaster. The movie just failed in what it tried to do with Cyclops. I think it tried more to imply (poorly) that the glasses were neutralizing his powers as opposed to him having control over them before.

BMM
07-21-2010, 09:58 AM
They are sunglasses...what if he looks to the right or the left or down or up where the lense doesn't cover his eyes:huh:

So what if he does? I don’t know the mechanics of how his Ruby Quartz glasses work. He should probably blow his visor clean off his face every time he uses his optic blasts too, but he doesn’t because that’s the way the character’s been written since his inception.

You really think a teacher is going to tell Scott everyday to take off his glasses and he still be sitting in the classroom:huh:

Yes, which is probably why she is quick to give him detention.

I don't have the dvd or I would watch it (maybe) but I think he throws off his glasses and does his little air spin and then shoots at Sabretooth and he gets knocked out when Sabretooth lands on him.

He doesn’t throw off his glasses. Sabretooth enters the school and quips, “Little dark for sunglasses. Don’t you think?” That line alone should indicate there’s a reason Cyclops is still wearing them, even after we’ve already been introduced to him in a prior scene. Sabretooth then chases Cyclops, eventually yanking his feet out from under him, which is what causes Cyclops to lose his glasses. Cyclops blasts a hole through the school, Sabretooth tackles him, and, with his eyes closed but still conscious, Cyclops pleads for Sabretooth not to harm him.

I think it is more presumptuous to assume that he somehow got ruby quartz sunglasses specifically made for him by someone than Stryker being the cause of his problems with his powers. I think they just gave Scott red sunglasses so that the audience could easily identify him in the scene without giving a name.

I think it’s a lot easier to assume what has always been known about Cyclops rather than having to piece together an origin for a character’s powers because production didn’t think the logistics of a pointless cameo all the way through. Like TNC said, it's not that you aren't making some valid points. It's simply a poorly conceived cameo, in which they couldn't even get something as simple as Cyclops' powers right.

chaseter
07-21-2010, 10:46 AM
I would agree that it was a poorly conceived cameo. I was just trying to justify his existence in the film as making sense but apparently they didn't care enough to do it for us. Just make this a reboot and show us a proper origin for a character that has gotten the shaft in 4 movies now.

squeekness
07-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Although it's being officially called a prequel, it is possible that some elements of the previous films will be ignored. If that's the case, then so be it. I'm far too pragmatic and realistic to be freaking out over that.

If Angel - and it's a very big if at the moment, as all we have is an unverified rumour - is in this, along with Sinister's Marauders, it sounds like a scenario is being created for the creation of the metal-winged Archangel, which is what Singer had intended to show in X2 before budget cuts forced it to be omitted.

Interesting stuff indeed. I think the guessing games will continue until the film is released, just as with the other X-movies.Maruders you say? Will we have a quickie Gambit cameo then? Maybe so... :D

JP
07-21-2010, 12:16 PM
The Debt written by Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman. :)
vGp0YDfADzg

X-Maniac
07-21-2010, 03:18 PM
The Debt written by Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman. :)

...in which Sam Worthington yet again lapses into Australian twangs. I already had to listen to him going Aussie in Clash of the Titans.

JP
07-21-2010, 03:23 PM
Yeah, he's worse than Hugh Jackman. :p

TheVelvetOnion
07-21-2010, 05:32 PM
I think that there going to focus on the Morlock Massicure for story and Maurders, Hellfire possibly sinister as a hellfire member would be the story.

danoyse
07-21-2010, 06:30 PM
Yeah, he's worse than Hugh Jackman. :p

Oh, you haven't lived until you've seen him try to pronounce "goombah". I watched him attempt that twice on stage. And I grew up in NJ, I know when that word gets pronounced wrong. :oldrazz:

Best American accent I've ever heard from an Australian? Little Kodi-Smit McPhee from The Road. That kid was incredible.

TNC9852002
07-21-2010, 06:32 PM
It's much easier for kids..

Squidboy
07-21-2010, 07:18 PM
Oh, you haven't lived until you've seen him try to pronounce "goombah". I watched him attempt that twice on stage. And I grew up in NJ, I know when that word gets pronounced wrong. :oldrazz:

Best American accent I've ever heard from an Australian? Little Kodi-Smit McPhee from The Road. That kid was incredible.

Funny, because he was originally supposed to play Wolverine as a kid, but the Road came up and he was replaced.

Jake Cassidy
07-21-2010, 07:23 PM
Oh, you haven't lived until you've seen him try to pronounce "goombah". I watched him attempt that twice on stage. And I grew up in NJ, I know when that word gets pronounced wrong. :oldrazz:

Best American accent I've ever heard from an Australian? Little Kodi-Smit McPhee from The Road. That kid was incredible.

Ryan Kwanten in 'True Blood'. Simon Baker in 'The Mentalist'. Yvonne Strahovski in 'Chuck'. Anthony LaPaglia and Cate Blanchett in anything when they play an American, etc. There's plenty of them.

Aussies, in general, are better at doing an American accent than Americans are at doing an Australian accent.

Edit: More - Heath Ledger, Naomi Watts, Julian McMahon, Judy Davis, Poppy Montgomery.

Americans that can do Aussie accents - Robert Downey Jr....................:woot:

TNC9852002
07-21-2010, 10:27 PM
Maybe because there's never really much reason to have an American actor speak with a legitimate Australian accent. :p

squeekness
07-21-2010, 10:42 PM
The Debt written by Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman. :)
vGp0YDfADzgWow, there might actually be a movie worth going to the theater to see this year. So far Book of Eli and Iron Man 2 have been the only decent (in my opinion) offerings so far this year. :(

Mogwai
07-21-2010, 10:54 PM
Wow, there might actually be a movie worth going to the theater to see this year. So far Book of Eli and Iron Man 2 have been the only decent (in my opinion) offerings so far this year. :(

no toy story 3?

Downhere
07-21-2010, 11:07 PM
no toy story 3?

Yeah, that was a perfect movie along with Kick Ass.

squeekness
07-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Haven't seen Toy Story 3 but I've heard good things about it. It's in my NetFlix queue. :)

JP
07-21-2010, 11:39 PM
Toy Story 3, Kick-Ass, and Inception. All fantastic.

The Debt looks great too. From what I've read, it's Vaughn and Goldman's best script yet.

Downhere
07-21-2010, 11:43 PM
Haven't seen Toy Story 3 but I've heard good things about it. It's in my NetFlix queue. :)

Get some tissues.

TNC9852002
07-22-2010, 06:53 AM
I need to see Book of Eli already..

JP
07-22-2010, 10:54 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Jennifer Lawrence talks about prepping to play Mystique in X-Men: First Class

Jennifer Lawrence, star of the critically acclaimed indie film Winter's Bone, had no idea what she was getting into when she read for and then landed the role of Mystique in Matthew Vaughn's upcoming X-Men: First Class. But she's catching on.

"Oh my GOSH! I thought I had a whole year to PREPARE, you know, play the role, wait, and then have the movie come out. Just get used to how big a deal it might be.

"Usually, when you make a movie, there's just a title and that doesn't do much of anything for anybody. Even if it's a Scorsese movie. Nobody knows what that title is about.

"I've never done a movie where the title alone makes people go a little crazy."

How crazy?

"I just got off a plane from London. I was going through Customs, and the guy asks 'Business or pleasure?'

And I say 'Business.'

And he says 'What kind of business?'

And I say 'Movie. Meetings over a movie.'

And he goes 'Oh, What movie?'

'X-Men.'

And he goes 'Get OUT! They're doing another X-Men? Oh my gosh, who are going to be?'

'Mystique.'

'SHUT UP! Mystique? She's HOT!'

"And I'm like, 'Okaay. Can I get through Customs here?'

"I had nooo idea. I have been just ignorant of the whole fan base behind these films. I felt like an idiot. I had to call my mom and go, 'Mom, I don't KNOW about all this. This is before we've even started shooting, and it's just CRAZY.'

The starlet, who turns 20 in August, had been surfing the wave that Winter's Bone put her on back at Sundance when she read for the part. She landed it and THEN decided she'd better bone up on the character.

"When I got the part I dedicated a whole day to watching all three movies, and I really liked them. I was still a little worried, because I didn't really understand the whole mutant thing. But the script cleared some of my questions up, and knowing that James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender were already on board gave me confidence."

She had meetings with Vaughn and Co. in London this week. Today, it"s "I have to do 12 hours of prosthetics. Oh man.

"I have to take Mystique back to the beginning, before she became who we saw later. I don't know exactly what I can talk about, but this is going to be fun."

She says the prep work is physical, which knowing Mystique's image, we can believe. Gym time. How does she look in blue?

"NOBODY looks good blue. Well, maybe Zoe Saldana. I am very curious to see how I'm going to come off in that s

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/os-movie-jennifer-lawrence-xmen-mystique,0,4851288.story

Mako
07-22-2010, 10:57 AM
Nice to know they are going to be using prosthetics

Rac
07-22-2010, 11:47 AM
The Debt written by Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman. :)
vGp0YDfADzg
The original Israeli film is supposed to really good. The remake doesn't look bad either.

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2535/debt.jpg

marvelrobbins
07-22-2010, 12:29 PM
This Suggests we may see Mystique closer to her original comic book form In First Class.And something happened to turn her nto the scaly version from previous films.

Lightning Strykez!
07-22-2010, 01:41 PM
It's interesting that she mentioned Zoe Saldana...almost as if she's seen her in connection with this production. Could be wishful thinking on my part, but I just thought that was a random comment. Why not just say that Rebecca Romijn looked great in blue (obviously)?

JP
07-22-2010, 01:41 PM
New/Old Details 'X-Men: First Class' From An Early Script
Ok, we've all read the official synopsis for Matthew Vaughn's "X-Men: First Class," but to remind you, it goes like this.

X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, following the classic Marvel mythology, charts the epic beginning of the X-Men saga. Before Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr took the names Professor X and Magneto, they were two young men discovering their powers for the first time. Before they were archenemies, they were closest of friends, working together, with other Mutants (some familiar, some new), to stop the greatest threat the world has ever known. In the process, a rift between them opened, which began the eternal war between Magneto’s Brotherhood and Professor X’s X-Men.

We've been handed some new details. However, they're from a draft from a few months ago and we already know the script has been retooled several times, including a recent one by frequent Vaughn collaborator Jane Goldman (writer on "Kick-Ass," "Stardust"). It could be Jamie Moss' draft, the version that Fox head Tom Rothman fast-tracked. It's unclear at the moment, but here are some things in the early draft as told to us by someone behind the scenes. Some of it could have changed, but a lot of this sounds like core info that's hard to just drop.

- Magneto (then known as Eric Lensherr, played by Michael Fassbender) and Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) travel around trying to save mutants. As more news about their existence leaks out, more goverment led operations are endangering mutants' lives.

- Like the comics, they go and build a school for mutants.
- There is a love triangle between Eric, Charles and Emma Frost (played by Alice Eve). Our source didn't want to say too much, but we presume this is one of the factors that tears Charles and Eric apart.
- One of their rifts is apparently also because of their differing ways on how to train and teach their students.
- The script features Cyclops (there's been some speculation out there that some key mutants may be missing in certain drafts).
- We see the transformation of Hank McCoy, how he goes from the regular Beast (Nicholas Hoult) to the blue furry one played by Kelsey Grammer in "X-Men: The Last Stand."
- Apparently some shooting has already taken place, but it might just be test footage.

The film also stars Kevin Bacon as the film's main villain, Jennifer Lawrence ("Winter's Bone") as Mystique, Lucas Till as Havoc and Caleb Landry Jones (NBC's "Friday Night Lights") as Banshee. There have been reports that some of the casting details may have been purposeful disinformation, we'll see, but it is interesting that names like Cyclops, Angel, Ice-Man and Jean Grey haven't been announced yet.

That's it for now, more may come soon. "X-Men: First Class" is set for release June 3 2011. It shoots in early fall in the U.K.
http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/07/newold-details-x-men-first-class-from.html

Lightning Strykez!
07-22-2010, 01:48 PM
Intresting. Thanks JP.

Heavy focus on Cyclops eh? Hmmmm.

Lightning Strykez!
07-22-2010, 01:48 PM
Intresting. Thanks JP.

Heavy focus on Cyclops eh? Hmmmm.

TheVelvetOnion
07-22-2010, 02:04 PM
I have a theory on the story...

marvelrobbins
07-22-2010, 02:12 PM
So new Information creates a new picture.Jennifer Lawrence was told to watch 3 previous films to prepare.That means no reboot but the question remains did she watch The Last Stand with X-Men and X2 or Wolverine.

An Xavier-Emma-Magneto triangle doesn't surprise me.ANd you could see
Emmea using both of them If there Is A VS Helfire club sceniro.Sebsastan Shaw often has been depicted as having Influence In the government.And
Xavier and magneto assembling young mutants could be a threat to Hellfire club's plans.

Beast being transformed Into his blue and fuzzy form suggests some mutants
could be expermented on.it Is possable both beast and Mystique could be turned Into film more familar forms because of this.And If The Last Stand Is
being Ignored9You can't tell by what has been reported here) then perhpaes
Angel being turned Into Archangel could happen(If budget cuts hadn't stopped It Stryker would have been responable for Angel becoming Archangel In X2)

Focus on Cyclops could mean we see him rise to level of leadership over other students.

Electrix
07-22-2010, 02:16 PM
Intresting. Thanks JP.

Heavy focus on Cyclops eh? Hmmmm.

It doesn't say heavy. It just says the script features him, which we know.

chamber-music
07-22-2010, 02:20 PM
sounds link good stuff to me.

JP
07-22-2010, 02:22 PM
It would be cool to see an Emma/Xavier/Magneto love triangle, especially if it's revealed that she had been working for the film's villain (possibly Shaw) the entire time.

Hmm.

TheVelvetOnion
07-22-2010, 02:28 PM
I think this movie is an Amalgamation of a few comics, (X-Men Children Of The Atom, X-Men Morlock Massicure, & some elements from X-Men Messiah Complex)

The reason i think this is because of elements that has been popping up like characters and story parts.

I figure, X-Men First Class will be very much in the feel of X-Men Children Of The Atom, focusing on the first outing as x-men and what there lives were like just before it. But instead of the story we got in Children Of The Atom, i figure with all that talk of mutants being revealed and goverment getting involved, i figure these mutants are going to be saught out and the Morlock Massicure would fit a response the goverment would probably do and the reason which would split Magneto and Xavier. - The elements i figure that will be taken from Massiah Complex is possibly Xaiviers past has been a lie. although the comic has been more towards sinister testing Xavier, i figure it will be more along the lines of the Hellfire has been messing with Xavier for many years.

gap5ewl
07-22-2010, 09:47 PM
Doesn't the Beast part, if it is still in the script, contradict the second movie? Could that perhaps be evidence that the film was or is intended to be a reboot then?

JP
07-22-2010, 09:49 PM
Beast's appearance in X3 contradicts X2. :huh:

X2's cameo is nothing more than an easter egg that only fans would notice. That's been said many times.

marvelrobbins
07-22-2010, 09:51 PM
No.because It was a blink or miss moment.They were never going to be bound by that.

Lightning Strykez!
07-22-2010, 10:36 PM
It doesn't say heavy. It just says the script features him, which we know.

Huh? Perhaps reread it?

- The script features Cyclops (there's been some speculation out there that some key mutants may be missing in certain drafts).

If out of the "Big 4" (Scott, Jean, Storm and Logan) he is the only "key" mutant featured in this particular reviewed draft, it is fairly easy to deduce that he received the primary focus of said draft. :dry:

Not sure what you're trying to get at there.

JLR
07-22-2010, 10:58 PM
New/Old Details 'X-Men: First Class' From An Early Script
Ok, we've all read the official synopsis for Matthew Vaughn's "X-Men: First Class," but to remind you, it goes like this.

X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, following the classic Marvel mythology, charts the epic beginning of the X-Men saga. Before Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr took the names Professor X and Magneto, they were two young men discovering their powers for the first time. Before they were archenemies, they were closest of friends, working together, with other Mutants (some familiar, some new), to stop the greatest threat the world has ever known. In the process, a rift between them opened, which began the eternal war between Magneto’s Brotherhood and Professor X’s X-Men.

We've been handed some new details. However, they're from a draft from a few months ago and we already know the script has been retooled several times, including a recent one by frequent Vaughn collaborator Jane Goldman (writer on "Kick-Ass," "Stardust"). It could be Jamie Moss' draft, the version that Fox head Tom Rothman fast-tracked. It's unclear at the moment, but here are some things in the early draft as told to us by someone behind the scenes. Some of it could have changed, but a lot of this sounds like core info that's hard to just drop.

- Magneto (then known as Eric Lensherr, played by Michael Fassbender) and Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) travel around trying to save mutants. As more news about their existence leaks out, more goverment led operations are endangering mutants' lives.

- Like the comics, they go and build a school for mutants.
- There is a love triangle between Eric, Charles and Emma Frost (played by Alice Eve). Our source didn't want to say too much, but we presume this is one of the factors that tears Charles and Eric apart.
- One of their rifts is apparently also because of their differing ways on how to train and teach their students.
- The script features Cyclops (there's been some speculation out there that some key mutants may be missing in certain drafts).
- We see the transformation of Hank McCoy, how he goes from the regular Beast (Nicholas Hoult) to the blue furry one played by Kelsey Grammer in "X-Men: The Last Stand."
- Apparently some shooting has already taken place, but it might just be test footage.

The film also stars Kevin Bacon as the film's main villain, Jennifer Lawrence ("Winter's Bone") as Mystique, Lucas Till as Havoc and Caleb Landry Jones (NBC's "Friday Night Lights") as Banshee. There have been reports that some of the casting details may have been purposeful disinformation, we'll see, but it is interesting that names like Cyclops, Angel, Ice-Man and Jean Grey haven't been announced yet.

That's it for now, more may come soon. "X-Men: First Class" is set for release June 3 2011. It shoots in early fall in the U.K.
http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/07/newold-details-x-men-first-class-from.html

Honestly, I think the majority of this blog post was just speculation and also deciphering information that had already been revealed. Some of this is blatantly false, but I think we will be seeing rather soon what the film's story and cast consists of.

FOX would like to get filming underway without a delay so they can get the film out the film for their estimated release date, one would think. With SDCC upon us, I think we will be hearing something...

JP
07-22-2010, 11:03 PM
Which parts are blatantly false? Just curious. :)

Mako
07-22-2010, 11:31 PM
Sure we could take it has another grain of salt , but i'm getting more and more excited about this film , anyone think we might hear some news after or even during Comic-Con

gap5ewl
07-23-2010, 01:00 AM
Beast's appearance in X3 contradicts X2. :huh:

X2's cameo is nothing more than an easter egg that only fans would notice. That's been said many times.

X3 takes place after X2 so he could've changed in between the time of the films. And I think the general public would notice since he appears on screen with Dr. Hank McCoy underneath him.

JP
07-23-2010, 01:03 AM
For literally 2 seconds. If not less.

When X3 was in production it was stated that the cameo in X2 had nothing to do with the fully blue/hairy Beast we see in X3.

Spider-Fan83
07-23-2010, 04:13 AM
tho, this doesn't really affect continues since the scene never happen, but, I remember coming across an early draft of the x2 script once that had a scene of Hanks transformation, it was suppose to be during the mind attack on the mutants.... which would of explained his human cameo to blue fur appearance between the two movies

there's also been speculation about how in that cameo, as he was on tv (during a time were mutants weren't full accepted, yet) he might of disguised his looks, or had a stand in, appearing on his behave... or the possible uses of some time of holographic imager

squeekness
07-23-2010, 08:51 AM
Beast's appearance in X3 contradicts X2. :huh:

X2's cameo is nothing more than an easter egg that only fans would notice. That's been said many times.I look at it as, in X2, Blue Beast simply had a stand in for him. A guy who was his public spokesman who spoke on his behalf because he was too "blue" for TV and he felt folks wouldn't take him seriously in his blue form. It was Hank's words being spoken, but not him actually saying them. :) That covers just about any scenario.

danoyse
07-23-2010, 08:52 AM
X3 takes place after X2 so he could've changed in between the time of the films. And I think the general public would notice since he appears on screen with Dr. Hank McCoy underneath him.

Not really, since the general public probably had no idea who Hank McCoy was when they saw X2 and the appearance was mostly meant as background noise (and an easter egg for fans). It's unlikely they made any connection to it in X3.

It's like fans who said the Avengers references were distracting in Iron Man 2...most people who don't know anything about the Avengers didn't even notice the references.

Phoenix_Flare
07-23-2010, 09:49 AM
^so tru...ppl are taking that small scene to the heart in that case then whats the reason for Storm's hair being white to grey/black in X3!?!?!? LOL...somethings just can't or won't be explained in movie-s

JP
07-23-2010, 12:06 PM
tho, this doesn't really affect continues since the scene never happen, but, I remember coming across an early draft of the x2 script once that had a scene of Hanks transformation, it was suppose to be during the mind attack on the mutants.... which would of explained his human cameo to blue fur appearance between the two movies

there's also been speculation about how in that cameo, as he was on tv (during a time were mutants weren't full accepted, yet) he might of disguised his looks, or had a stand in, appearing on his behave... or the possible uses of some time of holographic imager

There was also a scene in one of the early X3 drafts of a very blue Veast driving Xavier and Erik to Jean's house.

Squidboy
07-23-2010, 12:56 PM
We also got three Kitty Prydes, but nobody's picking apart those cameos to prove that the real Kitty Pryde went through Xavier's office door in X1 and got caught in the timestream, sending her back to when she was fifteen (which is how she appeared in X2). When she escaped from the soldiers, she realized it was too dangerous for her to stick around, so she sent a stand-in to represent her for the next movie.

THAT is ignored, but Hank McCoy's televised cameo is being picked apart? What's going to happen if Kevin Bacon is playing Sebastian Shaw? Or did we forget who Hank was debating on that television?

marvelrobbins
07-23-2010, 01:07 PM
You are right.And I didn't forget who Hank was debating.

TNC9852002
07-23-2010, 02:27 PM
There was also a scene in one of the early X3 drafts of a very blue Beast driving Xavier and Erik to Jean's house.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that.

Phoenix_Flare
07-23-2010, 03:20 PM
that scene should've been included because the "general" audience had no indication that Hank knew Jean or Scott what we got from it is that Hank was a former student and apprently he has a good relationship w/Storm

(another blunder of many in X3, but moving on...)

TNC9852002
07-23-2010, 04:33 PM
It's not really a "blunder". There just wasn't an absolute necessity for it and the movie never confirms or denies a strong relationship between Hank and Scott/Jean. I don't think much would've came from it anyway.

illest urban
07-23-2010, 06:42 PM
We also got three Kitty Prydes, but nobody's picking apart those cameos to prove that the real Kitty Pryde went through Xavier's office door in X1 and got caught in the timestream, sending her back to when she was fifteen (which is how she appeared in X2). When she escaped from the soldiers, she realized it was too dangerous for her to stick around, so she sent a stand-in to represent her for the next movie.

THAT is ignored, but Hank McCoy's televised cameo is being picked apart? What's going to happen if Kevin Bacon is playing Sebastian Shaw? Or did we forget who Hank was debating on that television?

This post just gave me so much life. Case and POINT! Nice. :applaud

squeekness
07-23-2010, 11:02 PM
You are right.And I didn't forget who Hank was debating.I had to go back and play the movie because the fact that Hank was debating Shaw did a complete flyby on me. Yeah, Shaw's name gets mentioned, but they never show Shaw's face. The only one shown is Hank, not even the moderator was actually shown. In that case, would it really matter if Bacon played Shaw? I don't think so.
:)

JP
07-24-2010, 04:11 AM
Reading a few tweets, Bryan Singer is in San Diego at comic con. WOnder if he has anything planned, or if he's just there for fun. . . I know Jonathan Ross is there, so I imagine his wife, Jane Goldman, may also be there.

Doctor Jones
07-24-2010, 09:22 AM
I was wondering if whether they would have something for this film. But I doubt it.

TheVelvetOnion
07-24-2010, 02:05 PM
X3 takes place after X2 so he could've changed in between the time of the films. And I think the general public would notice since he appears on screen with Dr. Hank McCoy underneath him.

Were missing something that could be evident to the stories... Both Nightcrawler and Beast have used Image Inducers to change there apperance to become human looking in the comics... now you could argue that this is unrelease and wouldnt fit into the movie but picture this...

In X-Men 1, they had the technology to transform all humans into mutants, and then there is the 3d technology Cerebro uses.
In X-Men 2, they had technology to scan and see inside humans whilst they stand there for traces of metal... the technology was only present in hospitals that required you to lay in one of those big bulky machines, nothing was created with such free open area like what was used in x2 exisited during the time x2 was made although they have created this technology now.
And in X-Men 3, Cerebro projected very realistic holographic images.

So from this we can gather that image inducers could of been used during Hank McCoys TV Interview and thus explains why he was human looking when really it could of been a holographic discuise.

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 04:07 PM
I was wondering if whether they would have something for this film. But I doubt it.
Nah---they're still some time before first day of shooting

spidey-dude
07-24-2010, 04:11 PM
not long mate they are well into pre production

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 04:17 PM
not long mate they are well into pre production
I'm just saying, with where they are right now, they wouldn't be ready to talk about or show anything for Comic-Con.

spidey-dude
07-24-2010, 04:21 PM
not show, but im surprised there isnt a panel to talk about it

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 04:31 PM
I wouldn't expect much to talk about at all....

Most of the panels at comic-con are for movies that are at least halfway finished with principal photography..

JP
07-24-2010, 04:32 PM
Captain America only just started filming. :p

The Avengers doesn't shoot until January!

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 04:37 PM
I did say most. All Cap has is some concept art and a logo.

and the Avengers thing has been something so big and has moving full speed ahead for a very long time. They couldn't possibly pass up making an appearance.

BMM
07-24-2010, 04:53 PM
I would just be happy with possible casting information about Cyclops, Jean, and Storm.

Lightning Strykez!
07-24-2010, 05:03 PM
^ Ditto.

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 05:09 PM
Casting is a process that I'd rather they take their time with.

spidey-dude
07-24-2010, 06:21 PM
i think they are pretty much set on the main chracters and are keeping it secretive - the sets have been building for a few weeks now so shooting should start in a month or so

TNC9852002
07-24-2010, 07:47 PM
I think they said filming would start in September...

JP
07-24-2010, 07:49 PM
Mid-August. :)

Mako
07-24-2010, 11:18 PM
I just want some Casting confirmations soon. :)

Downhere
07-24-2010, 11:23 PM
I can't wait for filming to start, it's always fun getting pictures of the stuff going on during filming.

I, honestly, can't believe I'm excited for an X-Men film again. Heck, at this rate I'm more excited about this film than The Avengers, Thor, Captain America, and Spider-Man.

Here's hoping Vaughn hits this out of the park.

JP
07-25-2010, 03:20 AM
Seems like a waste. Both Jane Goldman and Bryan Singer are at comic con.

Obsidian Idea
07-25-2010, 06:12 AM
I thouhgt I'd have a little fun a put a First Class plot together of my own with some of what we know so far...possible Hellfire Club, Charles/Emma/Eric triangle...goverment after mutants...ok...

The world is slowly becoming aware of mutants and it's governments are reacting in different ways to the phenonmenon. The Hellfire Corporation, a global entity, has announced a 'program' in which these 'special' people are invited to come and learn about their abilities and mutations...only...the Hellfire Corporation has an inner circle which as other plans for it's inductees.

Charles Xavier and Eric Lensherr aware of the Hellfire Corporation's true purpose, have tried to thwart their attempts many times. They intend to start a safe haven for mutants from groups like the HC and other government groups (Weapon X, etc) that wish to exploit, stockpile and experiment on mutants. They have recruited their first class of young mutants to educate and train in the use of their powers for all mankind.

A life of fighting hatred, advocating for mutants and witnessing atrocities has taken a toll on the two men's relationship. Unfortunately as the rift between Charles and Eric grows wider...so does the HC's plan become clearer as they plan to take over governments all over the world using brainwashed mutants as weapons of mass destruction.

But the biggest threat lies in their new associate Emma Frost, a spy and member of the HC Inner Circle with a special mission to take their latest recruit, Jean Grey.

I got to think up a plot with Sinister being rumored as the baddie...it's little tougher to think about....

TheVelvetOnion
07-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Its good, heres what i would do.

Many years ago an inciddent occured where Charles Xavier and Eric Lenshire vowed to help mutants from being exploited. Few years later the duo working on saving mutants one at a time realises that they could pass on there message to a greater audiance... I.E. start a school, to help train mutants and work towards a peaceful co-existance with the rest of the world.

As Charles helps Eric track down his family, the discover they are being held on 3 mile island (taking place at the same time as the end of the wolverine movie) As Charles and Eric head to rescue the imprisioned mutants, Charles stays with the helicopter and uses his ability to help aid the mutants that had already broken free towards him. Where as Eric enters the base to discover Strykers lab and all the mutants that has been frozen, disgused by what he saw he wakes up the frozen mutants and trashes the place (Small cameo of wolverine on a monitor being shot by stryker) So Eric returns to Charles and the group is reunited.

The new mutants to the school become Cyclops, Emma Frost, Banshee, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Toad, Mystique and Jason Stryker. Back at the school the new mutants gets to meet the other school members, Storm, Beast, Havok, Avalanche and possibly Jean

Eric starts to bond with his children, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Charles tries to understand what Strykers motives were by reading Jason's mind, learning of Weapon X, Strykers plans and who funds them... Shaw Industries.

Charles meets with Sebastian Shaw about there involvement with Stryker who disreguards any involvement. Or wasnt aware of any dealings with them, But insures Charles that he too is on the side of Mutants and offers him a grant for his school, although Xavier does not except this.

Later Sebastian meets with anothe member of Shaw Industeries, scientist Nathaniel Essex, who reveals that the he used his vito to fund the weapon x project in persuit of gaining infiniate research towards mutation and possibly find a way to make a profit by it. However Essex has abandoned that method for something that will give them the edge towards profiting on mutants.

During a public political event, That Charles Xavier and Eric Lenshire is invited to, Dr.Nathaniel Essex a science advisor as well as being part of the Shaw Industry reveals to the world "Mutants" cameos of Beak, Marrow, probably Maggot. which causes fear and hostility towards them, This infuriates Eric however Charles tries to reason with him. The hostile crowd is then invoked even more by senator graydon creed. This enrages the mutants on stage who break free and try to attack creed. As the crowd starts to run away, essex tranquilzes one of the mutants who tries to attack creed, the other mutants on stage manage to escape

unbeknown to everyone Senator Creed, Dr.Essex and Sebastian Shaw has formulated a plan to profit against mutants by exposing them as hostile creatures. And they were onto phase two.

As humans increasing start to question mutants as a threat, the goverment decides to create the Maurder initative, a private army of specialists who will search out the mutants and take them to detainment for research and better understanding. However there really an extermination group.

Back at the school, Charles and Eric agree that they must take action but disagree on how it should be handled. Begubd Charles back, Eric meets with some students who share his idealisim Mystique, Toad, Possibly Avalanche, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch to capture Dr.Essex and Stop the Maurders. There successful in braking into Shaw industries and finding Dr.Essex however his maurders easily defeat quicksilver and scarlett witch, who are then imprisioned. Magneto with Mystique and Toad retreats but furious.

Later charles learns of what had happened via a news report, slightly finds it unbelievable of what Eric had done... Charles then learns that the Maurders has found a collony of mutants in sewers and plan to apprehend them. As Xavier uses cerebro, he manages to find Eric and links minds with him, Eric tells Xavier that he has had enough with humanity and tells Charles not to get in his way before being able to block his mental connection.

Charles now realising the full gravity of what is happening, decides that he must create a line of defense, The X-Men.

Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Storm, Banshee, Havok and Beast become the first X-Men.

Locating Magnetos mutants, Toad, Mystique & Avalanche. a full on battle between the Maurders, Magnetos brotherhood and the Morlock mutants occures, The X-Men including Xavier turns up and rescues the morlocks however there is casulties on bothsides as Avalanche is killed, Professor Xavier is crippled and most of the maurders had died. Thanks to Jean's powers slightly going into Phoenix. Magneto escapes but forms an alliance with one of the Muarders Sabretooth.

The next day, the inccidnet is played down as a minor fault in the sewer. Xavier is recovering at Muir Island being looked after by Moria.

Cyclops talks to the other X-Men about Shaw Industires, usual they have to be stopped, they want to rescue there friends Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch who are being held captive... And recalling Xaviers last words to them, Learn to work together as team.

They form a plan.

As they infiltrate Shaw Industries, they come face to face with Dr.Essex, Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost who they thought was there friend. It turns out Emma worked for Shaw Industries, she was required to lure Silverfox to work for weapon x project, and that she wasnt really her sister but was thoughts implated by her. But since her supposed rescue, she has been reporting Erics and Charles work to the Shaw industry which is really a club called Hellfire. The X-Men decide to split into two groups one to rescue the mutants in the cell, including Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch. The other to defeat Sebastain Shaw, Emma Frost and Dr.Essex, they are succesful with Shaw and Frost arrested for the crimes but Dr.Essex manages to escape. Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch decide to track down Magneto, Hoping they will be able to change there fathers mind.

We then jump to Xaviers return to the school. Where we see his First Class has become 30+ students built up from those that were 3 mile island and those that were held captive at shaw industries.

We see a few young mutants Iceman, Angel, Colossus and Kitty Pryde running around.

Xavier then turns to Scott and congratulates him for his leadership and makes him the leader of the x-men. But reflects that although they have won this battle, this was only the start of something yet to come. refering to Magneto.

Project862006
07-26-2010, 06:04 PM
what about Emma Roberts for Jean she is 19 which is also around the age of the other mutants
http://celebrity-pics.movieeye.com/celebrity_pictures/Emma_Roberts_33246.jpg

Jake Cassidy
07-26-2010, 09:06 PM
^ Good choice.

Phoenix_Flare
07-26-2010, 09:37 PM
i believe she is filming Scream 4 right now...

marvelrobbins
07-27-2010, 10:37 AM
Not Inless The Last Stand Is Ignored In COntunity.I think reports of Angel being cast should be Ignored since they came from **************.Anything reported there should be ignored.

JP
07-27-2010, 11:32 AM
^Pretty much.

TNC9852002
07-27-2010, 12:24 PM
That was absolutely terrible what they did in X3 with ...."that" character.

I will refuse to believe that was supposed to be Psylocke.

Crockett
07-27-2010, 12:39 PM
From Wiki
According to scriptwriter Zak Penn, the character played by Melançon was not named as Psylocke in the original script. In a Q&A on thexverse.com, he claimed that: "There was some switching of character names later in production, and I'm not exactly sure how Psylocke got thrown into the mix." On the DVD Commentary of the film it was stated by Brett Ratner that the character played by Meiling Melançon is Psylocke.

However still I think they should just dismiss Brett Ratner's comment. That is not Pyslocke.

JP
07-27-2010, 01:28 PM
A nice actor day ahead. Wardrobe fitting for LAW & ORDER: L.A.,
then a meeting about a possible role in the next X-MEN movie. Most
days, I feel like I won the lottery.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=146413572035382&id=254377915494#!/pages/Jim-Beaver/254377915494

Blackman
07-27-2010, 01:30 PM
Jim Beaver is the man

JP
07-27-2010, 01:35 PM
If they really are going for the Hellfire Club, he's soooooo Harry Leland. :awesome:

marvelrobbins
07-27-2010, 01:38 PM
I agree with that.

TheVelvetOnion
07-27-2010, 02:17 PM
Na if anyone is to play Harry LeLand it has to be Zach Galifianakis

Think this picture best supports my arguement.
http://www.moviewallpaper.net/wpp/Zach_Galifianakis_in_The_Hangover_Wallpaper_5_800. jpg

TNC9852002
07-27-2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=146413572035382&id=254377915494#!/pages/Jim-Beaver/254377915494
*rubs chin with fingers*

Squidboy
07-27-2010, 02:37 PM
That was absolutely terrible what they did in X3 with ...."that" character.

I will refuse to believe that was supposed to be Psylocke.

It was clearly Kwannon

Sentinel X
07-27-2010, 02:43 PM
Whats the release date for this film? Summer or Winter 2011?

JP
07-27-2010, 02:47 PM
June 3rd.

JustABill
07-27-2010, 02:58 PM
The SFX are gonna be so rushed at this point. It really bothers me that a horror film (Scream 4) that comes out a month or two earlier is almost done with filming, while an SFX heavy sci-fi adaption like this hasn't even started lensing.

Sentinel X
07-27-2010, 03:04 PM
June 3rd is pretty early. I was hoping for a winter release but this has me worried a bit.

TNC9852002
07-27-2010, 04:08 PM
The SFX are gonna be so rushed at this point. It really bothers me that a horror film (Scream 4) that comes out a month or two earlier is almost done with filming, while an SFX heavy sci-fi adaption like this hasn't even started lensing.
Well, as some others have pointed out...

X2 and X3 had...similar schedules and their SFX turned out ok...I think SFX is probably the least of our worries. If they have a good budget to work with, they'll be able to hire a large number of SFX companies to individually and collaboratively work on it.

chaseter
07-27-2010, 04:14 PM
But that is what happened with Wolverine and the FX were terrible. If it is FX heavy, then it will suck. If it has a lot of practical work, then we should be okay once we find out what fx houses are doing the work.

JP
07-27-2010, 04:40 PM
Wolverine had the worst FX of the serious, and Wolverine had the longest post production time.

JP
07-27-2010, 04:44 PM
http://bermudaonion.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/jim-beaver.jpg

A nice actor day ahead. Wardrobe fitting for LAW & ORDER: L.A.,
then a meeting about a possible role in the next X-MEN movie. Most
days, I feel like I won the lottery.http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=146413572035382&id=254377915494#!/pages/Jim-Beaver/254377915494

Reposting since I find this a lot more interesting than another release date discussion. :o

Electrix
07-27-2010, 05:47 PM
http://twilight-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/edi3.jpg

Edi Gathegi, who played a chillingly evil vampire in Twilight and Twilight Saga: New Moon, is joining X-Men: First Class in the role of Darwin. That character, the first bi-racial mutant, has the power of "reactive evolution," which allows him to adapt to any situation or environment. Plunged underwater, he'll grow gills, he'll gain night vision in pitch black and his skin grows fire retardant when burned.

Gathegi, who played Laurent in the Twilight films, just wrapped production on the Paul Johansson-directed adaptation of the Ayn Rand novel Atlas Shrugged. He's repped by Paradigm and Framework.


X-Men: First Class director Matthew Vaughn has set James McAvoy to play Xavier, Michael Fassbender to play Magneto, Alice Eve as Emma Frost, Nicholas Hoult to play Beast, Jennifer Lawrence to play Mystique, Caleb Landry Jones to play Banshee and Lucas Till to play Havoc. Kevin Bacon is playing the villain. Aaron Johnson is rumored for Cyclops.http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/x-men-first-class-drafts-twilight-vampire-edi-gathegi-to-play-biracial-mutant-darwin/


...well this won't help those Twilight comparisons....:D

Edi Gathegi was born in Kenya. Nice to have a bit of diversity. Here's Darwin's Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28comics%29).

BMM
07-27-2010, 05:52 PM
Random.

chaseter
07-27-2010, 06:38 PM
Wolverine had the worst FX of the serious, and Wolverine had the longest post production time.

I distinctly remember them rushing to get the fx done. I remember someone saying that they had to split it up to get everything done and that they were working on the movie a few weeks before release. I think also that over 1,000 shots had to have fx in them. X2 had 800 and X1 had 500. So once again, if this movie is going to be fx heavy, then that won't be a good thing.

JP
07-27-2010, 06:44 PM
http://twilight-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/edi3.jpg

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/x-men-first-class-drafts-twilight-vampire-edi-gathegi-to-play-biracial-mutant-darwin/


...well this won't help those Twilight comparisons....:D

Edi Gathegi was born in Kenya. Nice to have a bit of diversity. Here's Darwin's Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28comics%29).

Eh.

Electrix
07-27-2010, 06:57 PM
I distinctly remember them rushing to get the fx done. I remember someone saying that they had to split it up to get everything done and that they were working on the movie a few weeks before release. I think also that over 1,000 shots had to have fx in them. X2 had 800 and X1 had 500. So once again, if this movie is going to be fx heavy, then that won't be a good thing.

Matthew Vaughn isn't a director who relies heavily on FX and CGI. Obviously they will be for power displays and action scenes, but they will be filming those scenes early on so it shouldn't be too much of a rush.

danoyse
07-27-2010, 07:16 PM
I dispute claims that any vampire from a Twilight movie was "disturbingly evil."

Downhere
07-27-2010, 07:32 PM
I distinctly remember them rushing to get the fx done. I remember someone saying that they had to split it up to get everything done and that they were working on the movie a few weeks before release. I think also that over 1,000 shots had to have fx in them. X2 had 800 and X1 had 500. So once again, if this movie is going to be fx heavy, then that won't be a good thing.

Wolverine also used Australian Special Effect companies as I recall. I don't think they used the bigger FX companies. So, that could have been a contributing factor as well.

But, X2 and X3 had a short production schedule as well and the FX in those films were more than fine. If you've seen Kick Ass and Stardust, I have no worries over the visual effects...I think that front will be fine.

I_am_iron_man
07-27-2010, 07:38 PM
So what's the story of this movie?

Ok. Xavier and Erik in their youth, they know Emma Frost and there is a villain. But Darwin? Maybe Xavier formed a first team to save mutants (from Wolverine) on the island?

Bah.

illest urban
07-27-2010, 07:45 PM
Eh.

my sentiments exactly. ****sweak.

:whatever:

roach
07-27-2010, 07:48 PM
seems like they are casting everyone but the first class

Visceral
07-27-2010, 07:54 PM
so is this a reboot or prequel or do I even care?

Ipodman
07-27-2010, 08:00 PM
You shouldnt care about continuity with the other X movies.

Just care if the story and charcters are good.

roach
07-27-2010, 08:06 PM
I just figured if it was going to be called First Class...it would be based on the series and would involve the first team of X-men

Lightning Strykez!
07-27-2010, 08:10 PM
seems like they are casting everyone but the first class

Exactly.

MAJOR facepalm effect for this thread of late. At least for me. Come on with it!!!! :cmad::up:

roach
07-27-2010, 08:18 PM
1)hey gang we are doing a movie adaptation of Dark Phoenix Saga....
2)sweet who's in it??
1)Pixie, Juggernaut, Gambit, Namor, Cloak and Dagger, Scarlet Witch, Robin, Barry Allen, Captain Kirk, The Lone Ranger
2)ummm none of them were in the DPS...well there was a Captain K'rk..but still
1)Oh we are just using the name to throw as many characters against the wall

JP
07-27-2010, 08:24 PM
Erm, well that's not very fair considering we have no idea what the story is about.

I'm just indifferent towards this casting in particular.

I_am_iron_man
07-27-2010, 08:25 PM
I remember Lauren Shuler Donner said she (and Fox) want First Class to became a franchise. So I assume this will be the first of three possible movies (like Wolverine, I think).

From what I've heard there's all things but the First Class. So I think this movie will explain Xavier and Magneto's backstories, with some mutants and some villain to fight against to (Sebastian Shaw?).

All this while Xavier recruited his First Class. So in the end of the movie will have the entire First Class, ready for chapter two.

...

But I hope will have the real First Class in this.

Ipodman
07-27-2010, 08:27 PM
The First Class of the movies probably aint the First Class of the comics

roach
07-27-2010, 08:33 PM
Erm, well that's not very fair considering we have no idea what the story is about.

I'm just indifferent towards this casting in particular.

but they named it after a series...
If they were doing a movie called New Xmen you'd expect to to be on Morrison's team
If they were doing a movie called Xtreme Xmen you'd expect them to base it on Claremonts book
if they did a movie called All Star Superman you'd think it would be based on the book....see what I am getting at.
They named the movie X-men First Class after the series which was a modern retelling of the original 5 x-men
there are so many people cast for this movie and they havent finished casting the original 5 yet.

roach
07-27-2010, 08:35 PM
The First Class of the movies probably aint the First Class of the comics

probably
however in my opinion if they werent going to follow the series they shouldnt call it First Class.
Better names would have been
Uncanny Xmen
Astonishing Xmen
Xmen origins

JP
07-27-2010, 08:37 PM
Er, have any of you read first class? It's a cheesy Saturday morning cartoon type of storytelling where the original five beat up a "villain of the week" in each issue. There are no on-going major story-lines, and there are no major villains.

JP
07-27-2010, 08:39 PM
probably
however in my opinion if they werent going to follow the series they shouldnt call it First Class.
Better names would have been
Uncanny Xmen
Astonishing Xmen
Xmen origins

But.. by your standard, if we call it Astonishing X-Men it would have to follow, and cosist of members of the actual Astonishing X-Men from the comics. Same with Uncanny. :huh:

How does changing the title affect how one would feel about the movie?

roach
07-27-2010, 08:41 PM
But.. by your standard, if we call it Astonishing X-Men it would have to follow, and cosist of members of the actual Astonishing X-Men from the comics. Same with Uncanny. :huh:

How does changing the title affect how one would feel about the movie?

did Astonishing have a set team like First Class????
Uncanny was the name of the first and main book. It could be used for any era of X-team and doesnt have a set team

the title is everything as it hints at the story...especially if the title is from the books
If Nolan announced Bat3 was going to be called The Dark Knight Returns...would you think it was going to be just another Bat story or it was going to be Nolans take on Miller's story???

JP
07-27-2010, 08:43 PM
did Astonishing have a set team like First Class????
Uncanny was the name of the first and main book. It could be used for any era of X-team and doesnt have a set team

Wolverine
Cyclops
Emma
Beast
Colossus
Kitty
Armor

I_am_iron_man
07-27-2010, 08:44 PM
First Class is only a title. Don't imply that they used First Class' comic-books.

I repeat. Maybe they will tell a story in which background there is the formation of the First Class.

roach
07-27-2010, 08:45 PM
Wolverine
Cyclops
Emma
Beast
Colossus
Kitty
Armor

oh yeah wow i brain melted on that one..scratch that off the list

roach
07-27-2010, 08:47 PM
First Class is only a title. Don't imply that they used First Class' comic-books.

I repeat. Maybe they will tell a story in which background there is the formation of the First Class.

It seems like they arent going in that direction...however in my opinion to use the name First Class is misleading...just like if they named the movie Ultimate Xmen you'd assume it was going to be based on the Ulti books

babykhris
07-27-2010, 08:48 PM
This movie proves to me that FOX is only making this movie in an attempt to buy back the franchise for big $$$. Come on Darwin???

BMM
07-27-2010, 09:18 PM
Darwin is the first bit of casting news I’m not excited about, and the absurd picture of Gathegi on the previous page isn't helping either. I’m sure some superficial part of me dislikes the fact that someone from the Twilight franchise is now associated with First Class (much in the same way I initially rolled my eyes at the casting of a member of the Black Eyed Peas in Wolverine), but what actually bothers me is that this is one of those characters that, on the surface, First Class seems like it could easily do without, especially when we haven’t heard anything about the likes of Cyclops, Jean, or Storm. That said, it’s unfair for me to judge at this point, as I don’t know anything about the storyline thus far.

Squidboy
07-27-2010, 09:24 PM
http://twilight-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/edi3.jpg

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/x-men-first-class-drafts-twilight-vampire-edi-gathegi-to-play-biracial-mutant-darwin/


...well this won't help those Twilight comparisons....:D

Edi Gathegi was born in Kenya. Nice to have a bit of diversity. Here's Darwin's Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28comics%29).

That wig should be dyed, so he can play Storm properly

roach
07-27-2010, 09:24 PM
to me it seems like they are making the same mistakes that they made in X3...characters just thrown in for no reason

Electrix
07-27-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm not worried about secondary/background characters such as Darwin being in the movie. Characters with cool powers will just add to the universe. I doubt they will get much character development and screentime as that will be reserved for the main players, but adding a few extra mutants isn't necessarily a bad thing.

BMM
07-27-2010, 09:29 PM
to me it seems like they are making the same mistakes that they made in X3...characters just thrown in for no reason

Perhaps, but it's too soon to judge, in my opinion. We knew the storylines in The Last Stand, and the characters just kept coming. We don't know anything about First Class, and the number of characters isn't nearly as many as in that film.

Hunter Rider
07-27-2010, 09:47 PM
Announcements like casting would be best given their own threads.

danoyse
07-27-2010, 09:59 PM
Announcements like casting would be best given their own threads.

This originally started as casting thread, then chaseter kicked things off by posting who the writers were going to be. So then we changed it. :oldrazz:

roach
07-27-2010, 10:00 PM
mod fight!!!!!

Marx
07-27-2010, 10:03 PM
to me it seems like they are making the same mistakes that they made in X3...characters just thrown in for no reason

I enjoyed X3...but I do see your point. Hopefully, First Class will be a good addition to the franchise.

roach
07-27-2010, 10:13 PM
X3 had good points but literally they were just throwing characters in that movie for no reason...what purpose did Angel serve???

TNC9852002
07-27-2010, 10:26 PM
X3 had good points but literally they were just throwing characters in that movie for no reason...what purpose did Angel serve???
Well, Angel kinda made sense and played heavily into the whole cure aspect and his relationship with his father...It's just that his "arc" just wasn't executed very well...

and I doubt this Darwin will be on-screen for more than 5 minutes. He'll probably just be in the background for the most part. One of the things I've always loved about X-Men, aside from following the main characters, is also the random appearances and interactions of mutants other than themselves with strange powers and how they somewhat make that universe feel more grander and epic in scale. The problem sometimes is, finding that balance and not overdoing it.

chaseter
07-27-2010, 10:50 PM
This originally started as casting thread, then chaseter kicked things off by posting who the writers were going to be. So then we changed it. :oldrazz:

I just thought it would be a good place for all casting and crew announcements. Because with so many people involved...that would be a ton of threads and then one goes to page 2 someone would make another one.

Marx
07-27-2010, 10:52 PM
X3 had good points but literally they were just throwing characters in that movie for no reason...what purpose did Angel serve???

Well, Angel kinda made sense and played heavily into the whole cure aspect and his relationship with his father...It's just that his "arc" just wasn't executed very well...

and I doubt this Darwin will be on-screen for more than 5 minutes. He'll probably just be in the background for the most part. One of the things I've always loved about X-Men, aside from following the main characters, is also the random appearances and interactions of mutants other than themselves with strange powers and how they somewhat make that universe feel more grander and epic in scale. The problem sometimes is, finding that balance and not overdoing it.

I agree with TNC.

danoyse
07-27-2010, 10:58 PM
I just thought it would be a good place for all casting and crew announcements. Because with so many people involved...that would be a ton of threads and then one goes to page 2 someone would make another one.

Yeah, but you called it the casting thread. :oldrazz:

Seriously, it's fine all in this thread for now. Once filming starts we're going to have to watch how many threads get created to make sure nothing gets lost in the shuffle.

psyonic
07-27-2010, 11:51 PM
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Edi-Gathegi-To-Play-Darwin-In-X-Men-First-Class-19853.html

Are they really misdirecting fans with fake casting news? This could be interesting, but does it mean the character the actors are playing will not be the one we're being told? OR the actors are not cast in the movie at all? :huh:

BMM
07-28-2010, 12:27 AM
Who knows? If Fox is purposely misleading fans, it would be the former. The latter would not be okay and would be debunked by the actors' representatives.

Matt Mortem
07-28-2010, 01:10 AM
Soo I don't know much about Darwin, but from what I can gather from reading his wiki page he was one of Moira's pupils or something to that effect so I could see Darwin being to Moira's what Mystique is to Magneto (if Moira is in the film at all)

S.A.A.D.
07-28-2010, 01:21 AM
Damn it. Not only is Taylor Lautner wanted for First Class,but now we have a guy who also starred in a Twilight movie which will be in First Class,please no more I want that person from Twilight to be in a comic book movie about X-Men. A part of me really wants to give this movie a chance on one hand,and on top of that none of these choices help when The Last Stand left a really bad taste in a lot of X-Men fans mouths here.

Anyways,who is suppose to be the major villain in First Class?

JP
07-28-2010, 01:53 AM
This is where the Twilight venom gets a little silly.

"Jenifer Lawrence hasn't been in anything I've seen. She's basically an unknown. Ok, she can be in the movie"

"I've never seen this guy in anything, but he appeared in TWILIGHT! NOOOOOOOOO, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!"

I guess I can no longer enjoy the movie Panic Room now that I know Kristen Stewart was in it when she was a little girl. And I guess Daniel Cudmore can never reprise his role as Colossus, because he was in Twilight. If they weren't rebooting Spider-Man, and were instead moving forward with Spider-Man 4, Bryce Dallas Howard would not be able to return, because she is in Twilight!!!! And, OMG Dakota Fanning better not step foot in any movie I plan on seeing because she was in Twilight!!!! :cmad::cmad:

JP
07-28-2010, 02:24 AM
A nice actor day ahead. Wardrobe fitting for LAW & ORDER: L.A.,
then a meeting about a possible role in the next X-MEN movie. Most
days, I feel like I won the lottery.http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=146413572035382&id=254377915494#!/pages/Jim-Beaver/254377915494

UPDATE:

jumblejim (https://twitter.com/jumblejim): At the X-Men meeting. Mitch Pileggi is up for the same role. Deathmatch!

Rac
07-28-2010, 03:48 AM
Darwin is not a black character tho... I have no problem with a black actor playing Darwin if they CGI/paint/prosthetics his skin or whatever, as he is kinda alien looking dude. Not white, not black, you know...

Squidboy
07-28-2010, 04:15 AM
This is where the Twilight venom gets a little silly.

"Jenifer Lawrence hasn't been in anything I've seen. She's basically an unknown. Ok, she can be in the movie"

"I've never seen this guy in anything, but he appeared in TWILIGHT! NOOOOOOOOO, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!"

I guess I can no longer enjoy the movie Panic Room now that I know Kristen Stewart was in it when she was a little girl. And I guess Daniel Cudmore can never reprise his role as Colossus, because he was in Twilight. If they weren't rebooting Spider-Man, and were instead moving forward with Spider-Man 4, Bryce Dallas Howard would not be able to return, because she is in Twilight!!!! And, OMG Dakota Fanning better not step foot in any movie I plan on seeing because she was in Twilight!!!! :cmad::cmad:

Not to mention Leech. He can't be the cure to mutantkind, not now that he's a vampire.

Darwin is not a black character tho... I have no problem with a black actor playing Darwin if they CGI/paint/prosthetics his skin or whatever, as he is kinda alien looking dude. Not white, not black, you know...

Darwin's the Michael Jackson of mutants.

psyonic
07-28-2010, 04:51 AM
Maybe Darwin will be a small role .. I'm excited to see how things will shape up by the end of Summer since filming is starting soon.

We haven't heard much about Rosamund Pike as Moira for awhile now, is she still in?

I want to know more concrete information!!

Hypestyle
07-28-2010, 08:43 AM
I hope that Darwin is portrayed respectably, and not portrayed as a coward, especially since his powers are "reactive" as opposed to aggressive.. punch him hard enough, he gets armor skin.. submerge him in water long enough, he develops gills..

X-Maniac
07-28-2010, 08:55 AM
X-Men location scouting at Reading University. Could this be used for Xavier's school? Also, some quotes from Nicholas Hoult.

Hollywood stars – and a heartthrob from Sindlesham – look set to descend on Reading if producers of the next X-Men blockbuster pick the town as a filming location.

The latest instalment of the comic book superheroes X-Men: First Class is due to start filming in just weeks and charts the beginnings of the young Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast and others who attended Charles Xavier’s school.

A photographer from 20th Century Fox visited The University of Reading on July 16 and spent half an hour taking pictures of older buildings on the Whiteknights campus.

The snapper was looking for inspiration and possible locations and was keen to grab plenty of pictures around the university’s 60s architecture to fit in with the era of the new movie.

The prequel, fifth in the movie series, will chart the beginning of the X-Men saga before Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr took the names Professor X and Magneto.

It is set before they were arch enemies and were the closest of friends working together with other mutants to stop the greatest threat the world has even known.

During this time a rift erupts between the pair, beginning the war between Magneto’s Brotherhood and Professor X’s X-Men.

The earlier setting means there is probably no place for Aussie heartthrob Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, nor the delectable Halle Berry as Storm, but Nick Hoult, from Sindlesham, near Winnersh, is being lined up to play the young Hank McCoy and his alter ego Beast portrayed by Kelsey Grammer in X-Men: The Last Stand and briefly by Steve Bacic in X2.

Nick auditioned a few weeks back after filming for the new Mad Max movie was put on hold and admits things “worked out well” as he landed a part in the latest mutant superhero flick.

He had not been told any locations and was sworn to secrecy on details about Beast, a mutant with ape-like superhuman physical strength and agility, fangs, pointed ears and claws.

The 20-year-old star of About A Boy and TV’s Skins told the Post: “I’ve just started training for it and

getting into physical shape for the character as there’s quite a bit of action.

“It’s just about getting prepared as much as I can in the very short time I have before we start filming.

“I’m very excited. I am a big fan of the X-Men films and have been reading a lot of the comics. It’s a fascinating world with so many interesting characters when you get your head into it.

“The films are really well put together and it’s great to be a part of them. A lot of my friends are also fans and massively looking forward to it.”

Reading University spokeswoman Rona Cheeseman said: “The photographer had seen some of the buildings on the university website and asked to come down and take some pictures. You never know!”

The Post contacted 20th Century Fox but had received no reply at the time of going to press.

The film will also star James McAvoy as the young Charles Xavier and Michael Fassbender taking on Ian McKellen’s role as the more youthful Magneto in the movie directed by Matthew Vaughn.

X-Men: First Class is scheduled for release in June 2011.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2075420_are_xmen_coming_to_reading

TNC9852002
07-28-2010, 09:10 AM
Quite a bit of action, eh?

chamber-music
07-28-2010, 09:38 AM
cool to hear Nicks training already and reading some comics.

Figs
07-28-2010, 10:28 AM
Darwin? Kind of a waste of space but he does have ties to Moira.

Squidboy
07-28-2010, 11:39 AM
Hopefully all these useless cameos mean that Kevin Bacon is playing Apocalypse, and all these characters crowding up the movie are The Twelve. :p

Angamb
07-28-2010, 11:52 AM
when will they announce Jean, Scott and Ororo??

on 2011's June? lol

JP
07-28-2010, 01:16 PM
Nice quotes from Nick.

TNC9852002
07-28-2010, 01:17 PM
Hopefully all these useless cameos mean that Kevin Bacon is playing Apocalypse, and all these characters crowding up the movie are The Twelve. :p
Umm, how many "useless" cameos have you counted so far?

TheVelvetOnion
07-28-2010, 02:03 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Foxhill_House_1.JPG

Crockett
07-28-2010, 02:17 PM
Nice, would that be the Xavier Institute?

Squidboy
07-28-2010, 02:52 PM
Umm, how many "useless" cameos have you counted so far?

Scalphunter, Angel, Darwin, Havok, Banshee are just off the top of my head, but I know there was at least one more mutant announced when the Scalphunter/Angel/Havok articles, just can't think of it yet.

JP
07-28-2010, 02:53 PM
:huh::huh::huh:

psyonic
07-28-2010, 03:12 PM
Scalphunter, Angel, Darwin, Havok, Banshee are just off the top of my head, but I know there was at least one more mutant announced when the Scalphunter/Angel/Havok articles, just can't think of it yet.

Prism, I know was mentioned as well.

I_am_iron_man
07-28-2010, 06:04 PM
http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=20813

So this is set in 1960, huh? Before Wolverine's events (1970). So I'm right when I think Cyclops, Jean and Storm doesn't appear in the movie but only in the end. This movie, surely, will be focus on Xavier and Magneto's friendship and a common villain.

Beast in X-Men 3 was more old than Cyclops, Jean and Storm. So this is the cause 'cause Beast is in this. In 1960 he was young, surely he's 10 or 5 years old than Cyke and the others.

Sentinel X
07-28-2010, 06:14 PM
I never heard of this Darwin character before but his powers are really cool. I hope they don't go overboard with casting mutants (ala Wolverine). I'd prefer if there are very few mutants but they each get good character development. Quality trumps quantity always.

gap5ewl
07-28-2010, 06:28 PM
http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=20813

So this is set in 1960, huh? Before Wolverine's events (1970). So I'm right when I think Cyclops, Jean and Storm doesn't appear in the movie but only in the end. This movie, surely, will be focus on Xavier and Magneto's friendship and a common villain.

Beast in X-Men 3 was more old than Cyclops, Jean and Storm. So this is the cause 'cause Beast is in this. In 1960 he was young, surely he's 10 or 5 years old than Cyke and the others.

Part of it is set in the 1960's, not 1960 specifically. I think the movie will go through a few decades.

JustABill
07-28-2010, 06:31 PM
The 1960's would sort of defeat the ''In the Not So Distant Future" wouldn't it?

BMM
07-28-2010, 06:35 PM
How so?

Mogwai
07-28-2010, 06:52 PM
The 1960's would sort of defeat the ''In the Not So Distant Future" wouldn't it?
but if they're going to show WWII stuff, and then a still-young magneto. it can't be too modern.

TNC9852002
07-28-2010, 07:32 PM
Scalphunter, Angel, Darwin, Havok, Banshee are just off the top of my head, but I know there was at least one more mutant announced when the Scalphunter/Angel/Havok articles, just can't think of it yet.
I like how presumptuous you are into believing and trying to differentiate between speculated cameos and confirmed characters with a real contribution to the plot.

Anyway, I don't see how any of of the characters that are CONFIRMED to be in this movie can be seen as useless...Just, by definition. :p

Lightning Strykez!
07-28-2010, 07:35 PM
Who cares about Darwin? LOL

When I saw this on the front page I was like...."Aaannnnnd?" Filled with an overwhelming sense of "Meh" right now. Give me Jean, Scott and Storm...mutants that really matter (beside Xavier, Magneto, Beast etc.).

TNC9852002
07-28-2010, 07:42 PM
I'm sorry, but Darwin's powers seem straight awesome to me...and I'm actually excited to see what they'll do with him.

I'm more excited about the new characters actually...There's no sense to fret about the main characters as much because they're bound to pop up eventually.

There's a bigger factor of surprise for characters like these that you'd never expect and it leaves you wondering more..

Lightning Strykez!
07-28-2010, 07:57 PM
I'm sorry, but Darwin's powers seem straight awesome to me...and I'm actually excited to see what they'll do with him.

I'm more excited about the new characters actually...There's no sense to fret about the main characters as much because they're bound to pop up eventually.

There's a bigger factor of surprise for characters like these that you'd never expect and it leaves you wondering more..

Meh, I guess.

Although I am about as excited to see Emma as I am to see Storm. I'll admit that. :up:

TNC9852002
07-28-2010, 07:59 PM
Meh?!!! :cmad: :cmad:

Lightning Strykez!
07-28-2010, 08:05 PM
Meh?!!! :cmad: :cmad:

Meh in copious amounts.

JP
07-28-2010, 08:15 PM
Still don't think Scott, Jean, or Storm are involved. I'd love to be proven wrong, though. :o

Project862006
07-28-2010, 08:48 PM
i want to see all the fanboys face when no scott/jean/storm is cast

but the headline on SHH says

Hugh Jackman Joins XMen: First Class

:awesome: