Official First Class News & Speculation Thread

[JP]

I just read on another site someone complain that there were "too many characters" and that they'd prefer a story that only consisted of 6-10... :huh:

So far we have a total of 12 characters.

Counting the amount of characters in X2 that would be "assumed" by fans to be major characters (since everyone announced for First Class so far is assumed to be major) I came up with 23.

:dry:

[DarthDaveBanner]

I just read on another site someone complain that there were "too many characters" and that they'd prefer a story that only consisted of 6-10... :huh:

So far we have a total of 12 characters.

Counting the amount of characters in X2 that would be "assumed" by fans to be major characters (since everyone announced for First Class so far is assumed to be major) I came up with 23.

:dry:

X1 had 13 named mutants at that was a 90 minute origin movie.

[chaseter]

I still think with a Wolverine sequel following,the fact Lauren Shuller Donner and bryan Singer are discussing a X4 that a alternate timeline just creates a cn of worms.And If there were doing that I think they would have someone from earlier films appear.Plus this would mean the villians would have to come from the future as well.

Hugh Jackman better not appear any where in this movie. I am tired of Wolverine.

I would much rather have an X4 than a Wolverine 2 at this point. If they do an X4, then I don't see this film becoming a trilogy any more. I was hoping that this movie would sort of reboot the franchise like the Star Trek movie did and allow them to pseudo start over to make another trilogy but I guess that isn't happening anymore:csad: You line up all this talent for one movie and then you throw it away to go back to the previous trilogy:csad:

[SuperT]

Who says this wouldn't be a trilogy/franchise on it's own, going over the early years before X1-3?

[chaseter]

I just read on another site someone complain that there were "too many characters" and that they'd prefer a story that only consisted of 6-10... :huh:

So far we have a total of 12 characters.

Counting the amount of characters in X2 that would be "assumed" by fans to be major characters (since everyone announced for First Class so far is assumed to be major) I came up with 23.

:dry:
It all depends on the run time. X2 was well over 2 hours so 23 characters were done fine....some would argue that Deathstryke was not done justice. X1 to me felt short and I was extremely disappointed that a couple of major characters like Sabretooth and Senator Kelly were thrown to the side.

[chaseter]

Who says this wouldn't be a trilogy/franchise on it's own, going over the early years before X1-3?

Because you have an end point and you have all of the dots that you have to connect and it could end up terrible like the Star Wars prequels. The best movies come from people with complete freedom.

Plus, it will confuse people that you have alternating prequel movies and sequel movies. First Class, Wolverine 2, X4, First Class 2, X5? That isn't how you handle a franchise.

[Downhere]

At this rate, I don't see an X4 happening. The simple fact is that the original cast is aging and would cost a great deal to get them all back for another film. It's a pipe dream at this point.

[JP]

It all depends on the run time. X2 was well over 2 hours so 23 characters were done fine....some would argue that Deathstryke was not done justice. X1 to me felt short and I was extremely disappointed that a couple of major characters like Sabretooth and Senator Kelly were thrown to the side.
I don't think run time has much to do with it, as I felt very satisfied with both X1 and X2 (maybe one or two minor squabbles). I think it boils down to "Does the character serve a purpose?" If they don't, then it starts to feel over crowded, if they do then it suddenly works.

[Octoberist]

at this point with me, I don't want an X4 especially after First Class. I don't see the point anymore.

[chaseter]

I personally thought X1 was too short. It was a fun summer action movie. However, X2 went to another level story wise and character wise and that made it a better movie. Same goes for Spider-Man 2, and TDK. They were just better movies than their predecessor.

I don't want this to be a fun summer action movie that is 90 minutes long like Wolverine was. I want this to be a 2 hour movie with a deep story and very well thought out characters.

[Downhere]

I don't want this to be a fun summer action movie that is 90 minutes long like Wolverine was. I want this to be a 2 hour movie with a deep story and very well thought out characters.


I think this will be just that with Vaughn at the helm, I highly doubt it will be another X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

[JP]

I personally thought X1 was too short. It was a fun summer action movie. However, X2 went to another level story wise and character wise and that made it a better movie. Same goes for Spider-Man 2, and TDK. They were just better movies than their predecessor.

I don't want this to be a fun summer action movie that is 90 minutes long like Wolverine was. I want this to be a 2 hour movie with a deep story and very well thought out characters.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. :)

[marvelrobbins]

Except for X2 all the films have been relativly short.I am hoping first Class
Is X2 In lenth.

[Marx]

Marx, this is a prequel in line with the first X-Men trilogy.

The confusion is coming from the fact that we actually don't know the storyline or what character these actors are actually playing. Entertainment Weekly has already said that the production is using a confusion tactic and not stating what character each actor is truly playing to keep the film under wraps, I presume.

Thanks SuperT. :up:

[MelbourneGirl]

Is there still a chance they are messing with us about the character choices?

If so, i'm inclined to believe...
Zoe Kravitz - Storm
Lucas Till - Cyclops

[chaseter]

Yeah I think some of the character names are purposely wrong.

[Matt Mortem]

I hope they have some names wrong. I would hate for First Class to be a film filled with obscure and barely known Mutants

[FaT_tONle]

Because you have an end point and you have all of the dots that you have to connect and it could end up terrible like the Star Wars prequels. The best movies come from people with complete freedom.

Plus, it will confuse people that you have alternating prequel movies and sequel movies. First Class, Wolverine 2, X4, First Class 2, X5? That isn't how you handle a franchise.

I don't think there are many dots they have to connect. They seemingly could care less about minor discrepancies. Look at Wolverine. Now Frost is going to be older than she was in Origins in a movie that supposedly takes place before Wolverine. Details in the continuity just doesn't matter anymore. As long as Wolverine or Angel or Rogue don't show up, we have to buy it as one loose continuity, at least in line with X1-2 for sure. Ultimately this won't make enough money for a trilogy if you ask me. Wolverine is probably separate. I think it will be this and Wolverine 2 if that, and nothing else will happen for a while. Then they will either give it up or give X-4 a shot. If it makes bank, they may just go ahead with two more prequels.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Hey...didn't the girl who's playing Mystique make a comment about Zoe a couple of weeks ago? Did it hint at anything? I was thinking she was referring to Zoe Saldana, but now that this Kravitz girl is in the mix...:dry:

[Project862006]

she was referring to Avatar
"NOBODY looks good blue. Well, maybe Zoe Saldana. I am very curious to see how I'm going to come off in that suit."

[Kane52630]

she was referring to Avatar

well thats becuase Zoe was all CGI, from what ive heard its gonna be in a costume right? so referring to Zoe is not valid

[Project862006]

she is just saying zoe looked good as a blue person nothing more nothing less

Jennifer said she did'nt understand the mutant thing for god sakes lol

[MoPlaYa]

So does filming start on the 23rd of this month?

[JP]

Monday!

[MoPlaYa]

Sweet!!! or should I say Kick Ass!!!! lol

[Project862006]

what ever happened to the Rosamund Pike casting does anyone think she has an undisclosed role

maybe Valerie Cooper

[Doctor Jones]

If this is filming Monday, then I think JP will be right about Scott and Jean.

But geez, I would have loved to see them in this. Hopefully there's a sequel.

[Octoberist]

this is not what I was expecting unless it ends up with Xavier GOING to 'ending' of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, where he transforms into Gumby Xavier.

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, let's hope this doesn't happen. They should have never even used them in Wolverine anyway. They had no ****ing place in that when the movie was about Wolverine.

[marvelrobbins]

Don't forget they may be misleading us here.Lucas till could be Cyclops and Zoe could be Storm.And Oliver Pratt could be harry Leland.If they are telling the truth about these
casting then they need to release teaser as soon as possable.And eather Vaughn or Singer needs to do Interview to excite the fan base.

[JackMercy]

I'm reposting here what I just posted in the Zoe Kravitz thread for edification:

This debate regarding whether Scott, Jean, or Storm should be in this picture is relative. "X-Men needs big characters"..? Any character can be made "big" in meaning, depending on how they are written, directed, and acted on screen. All relative. Two of the characters that many here are in fact concerned about weren't necessarily given "star" treatment in the previous films, either...ergo one couldn't assume that much of the audience was flocking to these films because of these characters...

While like many others, I've had my problems with Fox's handling of their productions in the past, I sense something different afoot here -- I sense that Singer is acting as a strong producer (who was originally planning to direct, after all) and is attempting to protect Vaughn from studio interference as much as humanly possible.

While one shouldn't be naive to the possibilities on either side of the coin, personally, going by their quotes so far, I'm rather intrigued by what Vaughn and Singer seem to be cooking up (and the relatively original casting), and I hope for the best.

The potential likelihood of Scott, Jean, or Storm not being in this film personally does nothing whatsoever to diminish my interest in this picture...and this is coming from someone rather un-schooled X-Men comics -- the kind of audience member who will in fact determine whether this pic will "break out" into profitability, or not.

[Octoberist]

In many ways, I can see why Fox killed the Magneto prequel since this deals with a younger Mags (with flashbacks to boot)

[LuisTX85]

They could just be pulling a Star Trek for all we know, somehow altering the time line in order to take the story in a different direction without negating what happened in the original trilogy.

I actually overall enjoyed all three(yes even three in some ways)X-films!,But I think I would prefer it IF they would just go in this direction!.

[chaseter]

So do I. I consent to that 1000 times over.

[The Original Bamfer]

I don't see how it'd be possible without time travel... which I never want to see in these films. Unless it's Bishop, and even then, I'd only want like short-term time travel... like jumping back and forth, at most, a few minutes. But yeah, I don't see how they can do it without negating what happened before.

[JP]

I would never be opposed to time travel. They could even make it apart of ones mutation, if that would appease the realism folks.

Also, character like Proteus make reality bending possible.. which could be another way to shift the course of events in the movies. Or, someone like Azazel who teleports through dimensions.

[The Original Bamfer]

I would never be opposed to time travel. They could even make it apart of ones mutation, if that would appease the realism folks.

Also, character like Proteus make reality bending possible.. which could be another way to shift the course of events in the movies. Or, someone like Azazel who teleports through dimensions.

Right, but why do that? Why try to connect a reboot with the pre-existing series when it's a, well, a reboot? It just doesn't make sense to me. If they're going to ignore continuity, that's fine, but just reboot and start from scratch.

[JP]

But this isn't a reboot..?

[The Original Bamfer]

But this isn't a reboot..?

Right, so, I want it to gel with the existing continuity.

[Kane52630]

time travel? lolz you x-men fans

[JP]

Sorry we're not all so-super-realer-than-real-life like Nolan's Batman, Kane.

[The Original Bamfer]

Time travel was frequently featured in the X-comics. Not something I was big on, though. :o

[Kane52630]

Sorry we're not all so-super-realer-than-real-life like Nolan's Batman, Kane.

^ this guy. :awesome:

either way im not too excited on any casting choice they got so far besides Matthew Vaughn

[The Original Bamfer]

Matthew Vaughn hasn't been cast.

[JP]

Matthew Vaughn hasn't been cast.
He's playing Storm.

[Kane52630]

Matthew Vaughn hasn't been cast.

i mean besides the director

[The Original Bamfer]

He's playing Storm.

Oh, duh.

[the a1ant]

then they need to release teaser as soon as possable.And eather Vaughn or Singer needs to do Interview to excite the fan base.

There's going to be a USA Today "first look" this Fall. Similar to what they did for X3 and Wolverine. :yay:

[The Original Bamfer]

A little teaser trailer would be nice... some animations, a near-official logo and some dialogue. They obviously don't need to have done any filming to record a little dialogue, just have McAvoy come in the studio and say some fancy stuff about mutation and mix it with some epic scoring. Boom! Excitement in an easy, small package.

[JP]

There's going to be a USA Today "first look" this Fall. Similar to what they did for X3 and Wolverine. :yay:
Awesome. :hrt:

Any idea if they'll appear at NYCC?

[danoyse]

He's playing Storm.

:funny:

[Angamb]

There's going to be a USA Today "first look" this Fall. Similar to what they did for X3 and Wolverine. :yay:

great!!

althought I think they'll only show Xavier and Eric (maybe Emma too or Moira)

[marvelrobbins]

Inless they are misleading us on some casting or inless some more casting Is announced withen the next week I think we should accept Cyclops,Jean Grey,and Storm are not In the film.Based on earlier reports I am assuming
Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman dropped themat least Cyclops and Jean.
Storm may never had been considered to be In First Class)

So assuming no misleading casting(besides Oliver Pratt.Calling him man In
black screams code to hide his true role) and all official word Is this Is prequel
fitting In with film Contunity we can make some guesses about what to expect

Xavier will not become crippled In this film
Magneto falls out with Xavier while Xavier Is still with fuel use of his legs
meaning First Class ends before the 1980's events of X-Men Origins:Wolverine
Havoc Is found and becomes a student before Cyclops

Since we will see magneto as a boy First Class may beguin showing him In
concertation camp.Azarel may only be In this film to show his affair with Mystique.Perhapes we will also get to see Mystique having Nightcrawler and abanding him.

As a die hard X-Men and since this Is prequel not reboot I am still ready to see this however I think they are making a mistake leaving Cyclops and Jean out.This Is why fairly soon eather Vaughn or Bryna Singer need to Interview about the film and give details.First off they are going to need to excite the fanbase.Xavier,Magneto,Mystique,Beast,Emma frost,and a lesser extext
Banshee are the only characters that can excite longterm X-Men fans.Although some diehard fans may also like the Idea of Moira MActaggert In more than a couple of scenes.And with three other comic book films coming out next summer Fox needs to get a teaser out as soon as possable

[JP]

So, can I say "I told you so?" yet? Nah, I'll wait.

[marvelrobbins]

Yep you can.

[JP]

Hmmm.

X-Men - 16 Characters
X2: X-men United - 25 Characters
X-Men: The Last Stand - 35 Characters

X-Men: First Class - 13 (so far)

[marvelrobbins]

Since filming starts next week it Is quite likely any other casting Is likely only minor roles.

[Kane52630]

Hmmm.

X-Men - 16 Characters
X2: X-men United - 25 Characters
X-Men: The Last Stand - 35 Characters

X-Men: First Class - 13 (so far)

I think you are forgetting something..... :hehe:

[JP]

I think you are forgetting something..... :hehe:
I'm certain I didn't. :oldrazz:

[Angamb]

not all the actors start shooting the first month, so more actors will be announced during the next months.

[Project862006]

I'm certain I didn't. :oldrazz:
http://pophangover.com/images/bad-wolverine-4.jpg

[JP]

Nah, bro. :p

[Spider-ManHero12]

Can't wait for the first look. :up:

[The Wizard]

Any idea when we'll get the first look?

[louiebling$]

So, can I say "I told you so?" yet? Nah, I'll wait.
Now you can LOL

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46217

Havok still doesn't make sense to me though :huh:

[Octoberist]

OMG. X-Men First Class will be set in the swingin' 60s?

I'm kinda interested.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Now you can LOL

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46217

Havok still doesn't make sense to me though :huh:

Just read the article.

Even less enthused, but still a bit intrigued. The idea that it's set in the 60s is cool. That's what they should have done with the Fantastic Four.

But it's confirmed that Jean and Scott are not in the film. And if they're not, you better believe Storm won't be either (especially if it's set in the 60s, which would far out-span the timeframe of X1). No Core Four. Meh. Kinda lame.

But at least we have...um, Azael. :dry:

[Blackman]

Now you can LOL

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46217

Havok still doesn't make sense to me though :huh:
Havok probably wont be Cyke's younger bro. If anything like the Ultimateverse he'll be the older or no relation at all.
I'm not really liking the sounds of the film, but the cast is solid

[Project862006]

sounds great

[J.Howlett]

If I'm reading that right, X-Men Origins Wolverine doesn't exist to this creative team.

This is THE legit prequel to X-Men and X2.

If Singer is setting all of this up, it sounds as if he's got plans for X4.

[Project862006]

sounds Ike they have a good vision of what they want and sound very ambitious

[J.Howlett]

This is going to be my favorite Marvel film next summer. I can already tell.

[Octoberist]

Continuity wise, Moria in X3 was like..in her 40s (the same chick from Rushmore) so it's kinda weird to see her in the 60s as a 20 something.

[Matt Mortem]

I'm actually glad to hear its in the 60's. This will make Beast older than Scott and Jean so that in a sequel Beast will be an upper classmen and Scott and Jean will be the new kids. I'm extremely optimistic about this movie now

[louiebling$]

This is going to be my favorite Marvel film next summer. I can already tell.
Honestly Thor is mine hands down but this is coming in 2nd then Cap(which is sad cuz Cap is my all time Favorite Superhero:csad:)

[J.Howlett]

October

X-men the last stand doesn't count. Continuity fixed if you don't include X3 and Wolverine. That's how I see the X-Men cinematic universe.

[Doctor Jones]

I like what I'm hearing so far. I'm excited for it now. We all know how Singer parallelled the Xavier/Magneto relationship with Malcom X/MLKJ one so it's cool it's going to be the backdrop of that.

[Octoberist]

how is that possible UNLESS Vaughn & Singer are treating X3 as Superman 3 & 4, like what Singer did with 'Superman Returns'.

[Octoberist]

I've always wanted a modern day Bond film with a 60s vintage look. Maybe like a mixed era.

[The Wizard]

Just read the new interview with Bryan and am psyched.

[Doctor Jones]

I'm just thankful Singer is involved with X-Men again.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Could be interesting. In a good way. Still apprehensive though.

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm disappointed that we probably won't see Jean and Scott, but deep down I'm thinking they made the right decision. As hard as it is to admit it. :csad:

[Squidboy]

I guess you figure the Halloween movies got to ignore huge chunks of their own continuity once they started getting up there in numbers, so it's not exactly new that someone would want to do away with what happened in X3 and Wolverine so they're movie can flow better. I'm just keeping my mind open until we at least get the trailer, because there have been so many ups and downs on this project for me.

[TheWatcher]

IDK about this. I want the sequel and X4 now!
Time Travel+X4+Cyclops back=EPIC.

I hate the Havok thing though.

[Doctor Jones]

I'd take this and any day of the week over X4. I mean what the hell did X4 have going for it? Other than whoring out Wolverine and making him a leader which we all know is ********. That move has no hope.

[TheWatcher]

Well if this movie does well,they could carry over the potential good story of this into X4. Making it have some of the creative spark that X:FC has. Wolverine doesn't need to be in another X-Men. He has his own.

[RustyCage]

I'm trying to figure out why continuity matters here. There are loads of different continuities for the same series in the comic world. Why can't the movies tell their own versions of the stories too?

I can understand in the matter of X1 through X3, because those were intended direct sequels. But c'mon, let them be creative with First Class (within reason, naturally).

So far, the only thing that disappoints me is the lack of Jean and Scott. Everything else is sounding very interesting...

[Sawyer]

I like the sound of this.... it'll do until Marvel finally pries X-Men out of Fox's cold dead hands. :o

[Project862006]

well how i see it is is not really about the x men group and more about the formation of the school and xavier/magneto relationship

[Downhere]

I'm disappointed with the lack of Jean and Scott. While I trust that Vaughn will make a great film, the potential box office could be dampened by the lack of well recognized characters such as Jean and Scott. It might be a hard sell.

[J.Howlett]

October,

Technically, I was kidding about X3, even though I hate it, but it seems pretty clear in that interview, Wolverine (at least the first part) isn't apart of the established continuity.

I mean Emma Frost's in this film and it's set in the 1960's. Wolverine, by the end of the film is set at least in the mid-1980's and she's in that film too with Scott.

It just doesn't add up with First Class unless you completely ignore Wolverine (happy to).

Not having Jean, Scott, and Storm are all indicators to what this film and potential new franchise is.

For me, it's sounding more and more like this: X-Men First Class (with the possibility of two more after it), X-Men, and X2. And I can deal with that.

Still, apart of me feels that Singer has set this up in such a way that deals directly into his and Donner's plans for X4. That LA Times article on Singer and Donner pointed to it...

[Matt Mortem]

I'm thinkin that maybe the way they'll make the difference between XMO:W and XMFC is that the Emma in Wolverine could turn into diamond and the Emma in XMFC is a psychic. As long as Emma doesn't turn into diamond I don't think GP will make the connection between the two

[J.Howlett]

Well, because the girl at the end of Wolverine was never named within the film, it's still technically within continuity. But those TV spots of hers really mess up that idea...

[terry78]

So are they done with casting officially yet?

[JP]

So are they done with casting officially yet?
Yes, basically.

[psyonic]

Yes, basically.

Not really.

"There are characters that we're not being told about though. Bryan said so. And we can all speculate as to who they are."

[TNC9852002]

So are they done with casting officially yet?
I'm sure they're done, but there's no way that we're aware of everyone who will appear in the movie...not by a longshot.

[Mogwai]

so no cyclops, jean, or storm? i'm sure we'll see them in an inevitable sequel.

[louiebling$]

Not really.

"There are characters that we're not being told about though. Bryan said so. And we can all speculate as to who they are."
But they could be cast already :huh:

[louiebling$]

Not really.

"There are characters that we're not being told about though. Bryan said so. And we can all speculate as to who they are."
But they could be cast already :huh:

[Ipodman]

Cyclops appears in a Wolverine movie, but he doesnt appear in a First Class movie

[Sky Captain]

So, we're sure Darwin isn't a front for Bishop, right? HAHA, half kidding.

[Angamb]

Cyclops appears in a Wolverine movie, but he doesnt appear in a First Class movie

I hate it!.

He should have never appeared on Wolverine and Havoc SHOULDNT appear here! :cmad:

[Sebastos]

So it's true that the movie will take place in the 60's? Sweet.

[Project862006]

since singer said there are characters we have not seen cast yet i assume Leland and Peirce may be in this

Ray Winstone for Harry Leland
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/736/raysm.jpg

Paul Bettany for Donald Pierce
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8595/paulvv.jpg

[Havok83]

I'm thinkin that maybe the way they'll make the difference between XMO:W and XMFC is that the Emma in Wolverine could turn into diamond and the Emma in XMFC is a psychic. As long as Emma doesn't turn into diamond I don't think GP will make the connection between the two
I dont think they should simply ignore it. They should tie them together. I can see them making this movie's Emma the mother of the one in Wolverine's film. Towards the end of the film, she can find out she's pregnant or at some point in the film, joke about giving her child the same name as her if and when she ever had a daughter. I think its best to do something like this than not addressing what could potentially be a continuity error

[JP]

I dont think they should simply ignore it. They should tie them together. I can see them making this movie's Emma the mother of the one in Wolverine's film. Towards the end of the film, she can find out she's pregnant or at some point in the film, joke about giving her child the same name as her if and when she ever had a daughter. I think its best to do something like this than not addressing what could potentially be a continuity error
Sorry. :down

Let Emma Frost have no tie in to Emma Silverfox.

[Nightmare]

So its pretty much set in stone no mr sinister? :(

Or Apocalpyse? Cameo would be even cool.

[JP]

Hellfire Club.

[ken smith]

I still wonder how they would make Sebastian, the world greatest threat

[Project862006]

Sebastian Shaw helped with the creation of the sentinels i believe

[ken smith]

How does that make him the greatest threat

[Gold Samurai]

so no cyclops, jean, or storm? i'm sure we'll see them in an inevitable sequel.


1- Xavier and Erik (first movie compared to Star Trek 2009)

2- X-men are formed

3- Young X-men tested

[Project862006]

lol so you dont see the sentinels as a possible great threat :dry:

[psyonic]

How does that make him the greatest threat

I believe he also has political connections and the public doesn't know the Hellfire Club has mutant members.

In Days of Future Past, the sentinels have taken over, so Shaw might have a hand in hunting down the mutants. Also, wasn't it rumoured that the Marauders are in the movie as well? Maybe the Mutant Massacre plot line will be featured in FC.

[JP]

Guys, its a synopsis. Its meant to flavor up the plot. Watch any movie, and then go read the initial synopsis after.

[scatterax]

so it's about the same thing as the would be magneto movie and set in probably the same time, but the only majer difference is it focuses more on xavier. and their might've been a different "villain?" i c. call me when cyclops is in it. but then again by then it'll be 2nd class. crap, he will never shine. :(

[scatterax]

x-men origins: prof. X! (and magneto. plus a few 2nd tier x-men)

[Havok83]

I have a feeling that for the most part these kids are gonna die. There has to be a reason why none of them , save Beast are around in the X-men trilogy

[JP]

x-men origins: prof. X!

X-Men Origins: Charles and Erik Before They Became Professor X and Magneto I Hope This Title Satisfies Fans Because Calling It First Class Is Sacrilegious

[Sawyer]

I'm intrigued to hear that the film's setting in the 60s will be such a big part of the story. IMO, aside from minor sequences in the past films (young Magneto during the Holocaust), the films (and by films, I really just mean Wolverine) havent done a good job of really giving us a well defined time period. I mean, what was that? It could've been the mid 70s, it could've been 1998, who the **** knows?

[scatterax]

doubt it. they could just quit. it's like 40 years erlier. even beast left. but if its 20 years b4 when cyclops is a teenager in wolverine does that mean that havoc is the older brother? or that thy're not related? judging by lack of family ties between characters in the past i doubt they're related. same for nightcrawlers dad in this.

[scatterax]

X-Men Origins: Charles and Erik Before They Became Professor X and Magneto I Hope This Title Satisfies Fans Because Calling It First Class Is Sacrilegious


they'll be magneto and prof x by the end tho. it's an origin. but i edited my original post to fit the movie better.

[Project862006]

singer says scott's brother alex in aicn article

probably just older brother

hey they still got vulcan so no worries

[scatterax]

I'm intrigued to hear that the film's setting in the 60s will be such a big part of the story. IMO, aside from minor sequences in the past films (young Magneto during the Holocaust), the films (and by films, I really just mean Wolverine) havent done a good job of really giving us a well defined time period. I mean, what was that? It could've been the mid 70s, it could've been 1998, who the **** knows?

i think it was late 70s/ early 80s time period.

[Sawyer]

i think it was late 70s/ early 80s time period.

Most likely, but looking at it, it's hard to get that from the movie. Visually, it looked like some little mixed bag of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Except not really. They didn't really settle on a time period and roll with it.

[scatterax]

Most likely, but looking at it, it's hard to get that from the movie. Visually, it looked like some little mixed bag of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Except not really. They didn't really settle on a time period and roll with it.

cyclops is the best indication of when it is.

[Havok83]

cyclops is the best indication of when it is.
yeah, the bulk of Wolverine's film takes place roughly 10 years before the events of X-men 1. Present day in Wolverine's film is around the early 90s. The opening parts obviously take placed before that to set foundation for the introductions of the characters

[DarkSovereignty]

i'm fairly certain that wolverine ended in the seventies, seeing as how they reinterpreted the three mile island incident for the final battle between barakapool, logan and victor.

[louiebling$]

I understood Wolverine to have ended in the late 80's but that's just how I seen it

[StarkTheProdigy]

Don't even pay attention to the timeline in Wolverine, they totally dropped that after the opening credits

[Havok83]

I think the fact that we are even debating this highlights Sawyer's point

[scatterax]

I thought cyc was in his 30s in x1?

btw, i was looking at dvd cases online and another contry, i think japan, called wolverine x-men 0. which i thought was both funny and awesome at once.

[TheWatcher]

I have a feeling that for the most part these kids are gonna die. There has to be a reason why none of them , save Beast are around in the X-men trilogy
Man I hope so. That sounds wrong :oldrazz:
X-Men:Literally ANYTHING but the First Class(matter of fact,only 1 of the original members is there).

[Octoberist]

Don't even pay attention to the timeline in Wolverine, they totally dropped that after the opening credits

The shot of the New Orleans bridge didn't help the cause, because all I saw were 2000s cars driving on it. I think I even saw a HUMMER.

[conan69]

I have a feeling that for the most part these kids are gonna die. There has to be a reason why none of them , save Beast are around in the X-men trilogy

I also think its gonna be a downbeat movie and wouldnt be suprised if quite a few of the characters didnt make it through the film.

[BMM]

Perhaps the loss of students, or fellow mutants, will help further the rift between Xavier and Magneto. It could be interesting to see. We haven't really seen many good guys die and stay dead.

[Havok83]

Perhaps the loss of students, or fellow mutants, will help further the rift between Xavier and Magneto. It could be interesting to see. We haven't really seen many good guys die and stay dead.yeah. Magneto blames the humans; Xavier blames Magneto. They then go their seperate ways to achieve their goals with different methods

I thought cyc was in his 30s in x1?
I think he was in his mid to late 20s. He was supposed to be the same age as Marsten was

[J.Howlett]

Havok,

You're correct. This is why you can't count Wolverine. Remember, the opening credits end with the execution of Logan and Victor. That's was Vietnam. Vietnam ended in 1975.

For argument's sake, let's say after Stryker recruits them, they do their thing with the team for at least a year. That takes us to 1976. Then, remember the film flashforwards six years later. That takes us to 1982. And that's pretty much present day for the rest of the film. Scott's at least 16 in Wolverine.

The first X-Men film takes place in 2004 (apparently, and I missed this, on the TV it during one of the news reports in that film, it states that the year is 2004). Scott's at least 26, 27, or 28. But, if you go by Wolverine continuity, Scott SHOULD be in his late 30's in the first X-Men film. And clearly, he's not.

[Sentinel X]

I was hoping the movie would take place around the late 70s/early 80s. Maybe because I always got an 80s vibe from X-men TAS.
oh well.

[marvelrobbins]

After coming back and seeing the latest news there Is bound to be major
continuity problems with Wolverine and Last Stand Inless time does go beyond the the 1960's

X-Men the Last Stand-A still walking Xavier and magneto go to Jean's house.
Not to mention Moira Mactaggert Is In the film and doesn't appear to be In
her 60's

Wolverine-A still walking Xavier rescures Cyclops and others.I don't think anyone will complain about pretending that girl was not really Emma frost.

So does this mean Bryan Singer and matthew Vaughn are removing The Last
Stand and Wolverine from continuity and First Class Is only connected to
X-Men and X2?

[Project862006]

Marsden was like 27 when he was cast so 30 is acceptable

[FaT_tONle]

Havok,

You're correct. This is why you can't count Wolverine. Remember, the opening credits end with the execution of Logan and Victor. That's was Vietnam. Vietnam ended in 1975.

For argument's sake, let's say after Stryker recruits them, they do their thing with the team for at least a year. That takes us to 1976. Then, remember the film flashforwards six years later. That takes us to 1982. And that's pretty much present day for the rest of the film. Scott's at least 16 in Wolverine.

The first X-Men film takes place in 2004 (apparently, and I missed this, on the TV it during one of the news reports in that film, it states that the year is 2004). Scott's at least 26, 27, or 28. But, if you go by Wolverine continuity, Scott SHOULD be in his late 30's in the first X-Men film. And clearly, he's not.

How can you say Vietnam ended in 75 so that must be when the execution scene was :huh:??? It could have happened whenever. Maybe they were held captive for a very long time... many years. In X-2, Stryker was probably a young pilot during Vietnam. Certainly Danny Huston was too old to be a young soldier in Nam in Origins. I am thinking they were in prison for years, and the whole movies takes place in a six year span from the late 80's-early 90's, give or take a few years.

After coming back and seeing the latest news there Is bound to be major continuity problems with Wolverine and Last Stand Inless time does go beyond the the 1960's
X-Men the Last Stand-A still walking Xavier and magneto go to Jean's house. Not to mention Moira Mactaggert Is In the film and doesn't appear to be In her 60's

Wolverine-A still walking Xavier rescures Cyclops and others.I don't think anyone will complain about pretending that girl was not really Emma frost.

So does this mean Bryan Singer and matthew Vaughn are removing The Last Stand and Wolverine from continuity and First Class Is only connected to X-Men and X2?

I don't agree that they should just toss every aspect of those films out the door. It is basically the transitive property. If "C" is in continuity with "B" and "A" is in continuity with "B", isn't A in continuity with C? In other words, you just can't just pretend something that happens never did happen. I am thinking the Scott scene in Origins is late 80's or something. The Young Jean scene in TLS was probably a bit earlier than that. So I don't think they should cripple McAvoy permanently. Did Singer already confirm that James will be in a wheelchair by the end of this? But even if they do put him in the wheelchair at the end of this film, it's still only a minor discrepancy. The point they are merely conveying, in the previous movies and now here, is that there was a day when Xavier had hair and walked.

[JP]

Jennifer Lawrence, who's playing Mystique in X-Men: First Class, just came in to buy some research material. Wah?! about 3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/aurata/status/21848317699) via Twitterrific (http://twitterrific.com/)
https://twitter.com/aurata/status/21848317699

:)

[TNC9852002]

Wah?!

[Spider-Fan83]

Havok,

You're correct. This is why you can't count Wolverine. Remember, the opening credits end with the execution of Logan and Victor. That's was Vietnam. Vietnam ended in 1975.

For argument's sake, let's say after Stryker recruits them, they do their thing with the team for at least a year. That takes us to 1976. Then, remember the film flashforwards six years later. That takes us to 1982. And that's pretty much present day for the rest of the film. Scott's at least 16 in Wolverine.

The first X-Men film takes place in 2004 (apparently, and I missed this, on the TV it during one of the news reports in that film, it states that the year is 2004). Scott's at least 26, 27, or 28. But, if you go by Wolverine continuity, Scott SHOULD be in his late 30's in the first X-Men film. And clearly, he's not.
that sounds more like a casting error then a continues error, seeing on this whole argument is based on the fact the Marsden looked too young.... yes, Marsden was about much younger then the rest of the cast, (nearly 10 years younger then Famke) but, despite his looks and the age difference between other co-stars their characters I believe were meant to be around the same age

as for the timeline... I think even in keeping with the XO:W timeline(where no official dates were given, other then references to historical events) there were enough undetermined time laps thou out,(how long were they locked up in prison, how long were they on the team...?) that those references don't have to be an exact time stamp…

[MoPlaYa]

Anyone know what the budget for this film is suppose to be?

[JP]

100-120

That's purely speculation on my part, though.

[scatterax]

they prolly made wolverines timeline ambiguous so as not to box in other spin offs. just a guess. also, who else thought this movie would be cycs time to shine? now he's not even in this. and if it's not connected to the last stand and/or wolverine they better explain it in x4 with cable and apocalypse (or at least bishop and the sentinals). ya, I went there.

[MoPlaYa]

100-120

That's purely speculation on my part, though.

Im hoping its at least 100mil

[MoPlaYa]

So does filming begin today?

[JP]

August 31st.

[cryptic name]

How can you say Vietnam ended in 75 so that must be when the execution scene was :huh:??? It could have happened whenever. Maybe they were held captive for a very long time... many years. In X-2, Stryker was probably a young pilot during Vietnam. Certainly Danny Huston was too old to be a young soldier in Nam in Origins. I am thinking they were in prison for years, and the whole movies takes place in a six year span from the late 80's-early 90's, give or take a few years.



I don't agree that they should just toss every aspect of those films out the door. It is basically the transitive property. If "C" is in continuity with "B" and "A" is in continuity with "B", isn't A in continuity with C? In other words, you just can't just pretend something that happens never did happen. I am thinking the Scott scene in Origins is late 80's or something. The Young Jean scene in TLS was probably a bit earlier than that. So I don't think they should cripple McAvoy permanently. Did Singer already confirm that James will be in a wheelchair by the end of this? But even if they do put him in the wheelchair at the end of this film, it's still only a minor discrepancy. The point they are merely conveying, in the previous movies and now here, is that there was a day when Xavier had hair and walked.

the 3 Mile Island accident that is depicted in the movie happened in 1979... the film takes place mostly in the late 60's and 70's.

[FaT_tONle]

Nah... I agree with X-Maniac that the accident already happened. Unless the factual accident ended with a tower collapsing, I am not buying that.

[cryptic name]

Nah... I agree with X-Maniac that the accident already happened. Unless the factual accident ended with a tower collapsing, I am not buying that.

why else would they set it there?

[FaT_tONle]

Maybe to reference but not actually depict a historical event? Who knows????

[The Original Bamfer]

I would LOVE if Singer just ignored what didn't jive with the story he wanted to tell... so, if that means what happened in Wolverine and The Last Stand weren't he cups of tea, she should just forget them entirely. I'd be willing to. :up:

[Deaths Head II]

I would LOVE if Singer just ignored what didn't jive with the story he wanted to tell... so, if that means what happened in Wolverine and The Last Stand weren't he cups of tea, she should just forget them entirely. I'd be willing to. :up:

Likewise. The continuity is a mess anyway. Us finally getting another good X-Film is more important to me right now.

[The Original Bamfer]

Likewise. The continuity is a mess anyway. Us finally getting another good X-Film is more important to me right now.

Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be the first time something like that's happened before. I'd be ecstatic if I could watch the 'First Class' set, then 'X-Men' then 'X2' and feel satisfied. And, hell, maybe Singer would want to go back and do his own continuation of 'X2'. Would it be confusing to the general public? Maybe, but it wouldn't keep them from watching!

[FaT_tONle]

Only he isn't forgetting TLS. Otherwise, Angel could have easily been in this. Maybe he's not acknowledging it directly. Nor would be be acknowledging X-1/2. Having Beast in the movie proves that he is keeping that element as introduced in TLS. And if Hoult becomes blue in this, that would contradict the cameo in X-2 where he was clearly an elder man already. Again, this movie is not leading into X-3 anymore than it is leading into X-1.

[Seen]

I would LOVE if Singer just ignored what didn't jive with the story he wanted to tell... so, if that means what happened in Wolverine and The Last Stand weren't he cups of tea, she should just forget them entirely. I'd be willing to. :up:

Exactly. As someone else said, continuity is a mess so why bother trying to connect the dots? Just focus on making a good film. After two lackluster movies I just want a good film. That's all that matters in my opinion.

[The Original Bamfer]

Only he isn't forgetting TLS. Otherwise, Angel could have easily been in this. Maybe he's not acknowledging it directly. Nor would be be acknowledging X-1/2. Having Beast in the movie proves that he is keeping that element. And if Hoult becomes blue in this, that would contradict the cameo in X-2 where he was clearly an elder man already. Again, this movie is not leading into X-3 anymore than it is leading into X-1.

That Beast cameo in 'X2' hardly holds any merit at all. He could have been wearing some new piece of technology that digitally masked his appearance. And Singer wanted to use Angel in 'X2' but it didn't work out. Perhaps he wants to use him for different purposes, assuming he disregards 'The Last Stand'. We don't know exactly what his plans are, but nothing in 'X3' or 'Wolverine' needs to affect these films, but I certainly understand why people may choose to have those connections there - it's cleaner and simpler to have a franchise of movies that all fit in with one another, than to have some that should be forgotten entirely from the series, though that may make for better storytelling.

[Kane52630]

I would LOVE if Singer just ignored what didn't jive with the story he wanted to tell... so, if that means what happened in Wolverine and The Last Stand weren't he cups of tea, she should just forget them entirely. I'd be willing to. :up:

I wont, ill remember X3 and Origins just as much as the first 2 films

[The Original Bamfer]

I wont, ill remember X3 and Origins just as much as the first 2 films

Maybe you'd think otherwise if you see how good 'First Class' ends up being.

[Kane52630]

Maybe you'd think otherwise if you see how good 'First Class' ends up being.

well we dont know that for sure.

[FaT_tONle]

The idea that the bad films are just going to be wiped out from existence just never holds. SR was the first notable movie that tried to do this, it failed. Just because you hated the sequels to the Planet of the Apes movie doesn't mean the 1968 movie is all she wrote and any continuation of that series is an alternate reality. If it makes you feel better then go for it. But most people who want to see a conclusion to X-2 will watch X-3. If X-4 happens, it is just not gonna redo the entire Phoenix saga with Cyclops front and center. Unless it happens 15-20 years into the future and Marvel chooses that story for the reboot.

[The Original Bamfer]

well we dont know that for sure.

No, but if it is good, and they're not making the continuity jive with 'Wolverine' or 'X3', you may be okay with forgetting the mentioned films.

Some may ask, "How do we know if they're ignoring the continuity of these films?"

Well, let's think of things they'd have to watch out for. All the mutant cameos seen in 'Wolverine' were of mutants that have yet to meet with Xavier. Though names may not have been mentioned, it was more than obvious that some of these cameos are a film counterpart to a character in the comics - Cyclops, Emma Frost, Quicksilver and Banshee.

Now, two of these characters are officially in the film - Emma Frost and Banshee. If the entire film does take place in the 60's, then it would be impossible for them to have their roles in 'Wolverine'. You can tell me all you want that, since Emma and Banshee weren't referred to by name, they're not those characters, but that would be utter bull. If the film does indeed take place entirely in the 60's, then they are flat-out ignoring the continuity of 'Wolverine'. If part of the film takes place fifteen-ish years prior to 'X-Men', then they may be within the continuity.

An example for 'X3' - in the origin scene for Jean, it was both Charles and Magneto. This would mean that they'd have to be allies/colleagues/friends for at least twenty-some years (starting from the the 60's) before going their separate ways. If Charles and Erik start to have major problems in 'First Class', then one may argue that they're ignoring the continuity of 'X3'.

[FaT_tONle]

Weak arguments Bamfer... if you are going to insists that those characters were Emma and Banshee then fine. I didn't even notice Banshee to be honest. He didn't have a single piece of dialogue. The Emma thing has already been debated. As far as Xavier/Eric on good terms, I don't think that they were ever so far apart that they couldn't do a favor for the other. I don't see a problem with trying to get Jean out of human home. I mean we are going to ignore Wolverine, which is in continuity with X-1,2 despite numerous inconsistencies, yet Wolverine is not in continuity with FC because of these little things the fanboys notice. It just doesn't hold up. FC will have virtually nothing to do with the modern X-Men as we see in X-1 other than exploring and elaborating the history between Charles/Eric. Don't even see why it needs to be in continuity with X-1 by that reasoning.

[scatterax]

ya know, they could fast forward at the end to after after the x-men r formed and xavier is crippled and bald and end it w/ the x-men about to confront eric in battle. i'm not saing that's what's gonna happen, just that it's possible.

[JP]

There will certainly be multiple FX houses working on the film, but as of now

4DMax. They're also working on Green Lantern and Captain America.
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0297094/

[merbass]

Don't forget that they ignored Hank Mccoy from3 X2 in X3. I didn't even know Banshee was in Origins. Emma will be hard to ignore but she was just a girl who turned into Diamonds in Origins.

As for Jean, perhaps we might see an unknown girl with red hair attending class near the end. It could implied that she was recruited along the way but not shown in FC. Just my suggestion !

[Squidboy]

I didn't even notice Banshee to be honest. He didn't have a single piece of dialogue.

He was the redhead with the Hannibal Lecter mouth guard. It was just a throwaway cameo, but the fact that he was in Wolverine is always going to be a problem for the fans.

[CASTER]

Frick FIRST CLASS... FOX is ruining the comic book movie!

FIRST CLASS with no FIRST CLASS is a insult!

[CASTER]

Just like W*nkerine Borigins was! :)

[JP]

They see me trollin'
They hatin'
They hopin' that they gon' catch me postin' dirty

[bosef982]

They see me trollin'
They hatin'
They hopin' that they gon' catch me postin' dirty

My postin's so loud
I'm trollin'
They hopin that they gon catch me postin' dirty

'Raters think they can see me lean
I'm JP so it ain't easy to be seen
When you see me post by they can see the glean
And my shine on the mouse and the PC screen

Yep, I went there. Just for you, JP.

[bosef982]

They see me trollin'
They hatin'
They hopin' that they gon' catch me postin' dirty

My postin's so loud
I'm trollin'
They hopin that they gon catch me postin' dirty

'Raters think they can see me lean
I'm JP so it ain't easy to be seen
When you see me post by they can see the glean
And my shine on the mouse and the PC screen

Yep, I went there. Just for you, JP.

[JP]

:atp:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Meh, I share similar sentiments to Caster. I just choose to articulate them with a bit more sophistication. He's just...raw. LOL :p

[Project862006]

you do .. :hehe:

[Doctor Jones]

So we know they're ruining this franchise how? With Singer back since 2003, Vaughn, Goldman and a great cast on board I guess this spells damnation for the franchise. They have no idea what they're doing! I mean it's going to be just as bad as Ratner's X3 and Wolverine then!

[TNC9852002]

That song is soo 2007.. :p

[terry78]

That song is soo 2007.. :p

Exactly, they need to be talking about how they they're just gonna stand there and watch you post, but it's all right, because we love the way you troll.

[Ipodman]

Why dont X-men First Class have spoilers and non spoilers boards?

[Kane52630]

Why dont X-men First Class have spoilers and non spoilers boards?

becuase its useless? lol

[Sawyer]

So we know they're ruining this franchise how? With Singer back since 2003, Vaughn, Goldman and a great cast on board I guess this spells damnation for the franchise. They have no idea what they're doing! I mean it's going to be just as bad as Ratner's X3 and Wolverine then!

I think it's because alot of people have issues with it because X1 and X2, great as they are, may not be as 110% faithful to the comics as they would like.

[Ipodman]

becuase its useless? lol

Every other upcoming movies have those... :dry:

[Kane52630]

Every other upcoming movies have those... :dry:

people like uselessness?

[danoyse]

Why dont X-men First Class have spoilers and non spoilers boards?

I guess we should probably think about putting those up again....

[Ipodman]

people like uselessness?

I guess we should probably think about putting those up again....

In all seriousness tho, all the non spoiler boards should be removed. I've railed against this since day one :dry:

[squeekness]

Non spoiler boards have their uses, like when a major film like this opens overseas first. :argh: I don't mind being a little spoiled, but not all the way.

[Doctor Jones]

Non spoiler places are always dead and boring as all hell.

[Doctor Jones]

I think it's because alot of people have issues with it because X1 and X2, great as they are, may not be as 110% faithful to the comics as they would like.

:waa:to them.

[TNC9852002]

Non spoiler places are always dead and boring as all hell.
and that's the way it should be.

[scatterax]

on the non spoilers section thing, it should be reduced to a single non spoiler thread per movie. no point in spreading out what little conversation there is in 50 threads. just combine 'em all in 1 non spoiler thread where all related non spoiler stuff can be discussed.

[scatterax]

saw x2 the other day. except for minor characters not having their proper backstories and the costumes I thought it was pure x-men. it was just x-men disassembled. That's I actually don't mind how little screen time scott got because for the few scenes he was on screen he was epic and not every main character can have equil screen time in every movie in a franchise. now in x3 the whole story should've been about scott, but well we won't go into what happened instead. cyc in wolverine was a nice cameo and unexpected too. but the whole no scott in first class is almost as bad as x3. they went too far back imo. it seemed like the scene in x3 w/ young jean was the school in it's earliest stages and in the 70s. going back 50 years and 40 years b4 x1 seems a lil..... much. but if they can some how pull it off that'd be great. too late to change course now since they already changed for inception.

[JP]

http://i35.tinypic.com/hrigc0.jpg

[the a1ant]

I love the cast. I'm really interested in Darwin and Angel's roles.

[Kane52630]

sadly (not really) I know only 2 (maybe 3) people in the cast so far

[Project862006]

i have not seen banshee/Havok/Angel/ actors before but everyone else is very good

[Loganbabe]

sadly (not really) I know only 2 (maybe 3) people in the cast so far
Well, Kevin Bacon is surely one of them.
And who would the other one (or two) be? :woot:

[Doctor Jones]

I really like the number of cast members. Not too big, and not too small.

[danoyse]

Non spoiler boards have their uses, like when a major film like this opens overseas first. :argh: I don't mind being a little spoiled, but not all the way.

And when the movie leaks online and people ignore multiple requests to use spoiler tags, leaving us having to briefly ban spoilers altogether until the movie is officially released. :argh:

[Kelly]

on the non spoilers section thing, it should be reduced to a single non spoiler thread per movie. no point in spreading out what little conversation there is in 50 threads. just combine 'em all in 1 non spoiler thread where all related non spoiler stuff can be discussed.

Its not hurting anything....

If you have even a few that want to discuss different aspects of a movie in a non-spoiler fashion they should have the freedom to do that in however many threads they feel is needed...

[JP]

I really like the number of cast members. Not too big, and not too small.
Its about the size of X1.

[Kane52630]

Well, Kevin Bacon is surely one of them.
And who would the other one (or two) be? :woot:

James whatshisface and Oliver Platt

[JP]

James whatshisface and Oliver Platt
You know Bacon and Platt, and I know you've seen Wanted and Basterds, so I know you know McAvoy and Fassbender.

Why you trollin, bro? :cwink:

[Kane52630]

You know Bacon and Platt, and I know you've seen Wanted and Basterds, so I know you know McAvoy and Fassbender.

Why you trollin, bro? :cwink:

I just said James whatshisface, Fassbender I dont care to know him lol

[danoyse]

I know most of them.

James McAvoy - I hated Wanted, but I loved him Atonement and Narnia
Fassbender - Inglorious Basterds
Kevin Bacon - obviously.
Oliver Platt - tons of movies, one Broadway show
January Jones - Mad Men, Love Actually
Jennifer Lawrence - Winter's Bone (which I saw this summer - great movie)
Nicholas Hoult - About a Boy
Edi Gathegi - Twilight (sadly)
Rose Byrne - Troy, a few other movies, I think...

[JP]

I know 6. Darn, I got beat. ;)

[Visceral]

Is the man in black a reference to the patty Hearst thing, which was also the inspiration for Stephen Kings villian and the lost villian?

I think it might be. I need to read the hellfire club story.

[Loganbabe]

James McAvoy - I hated Wanted, but I loved him Atonement and Narnia
Ahhhh, I love "Wanted". :csad: :oldrazz:
Have you seen "The Last King of Scotland", danoyse? A wonderful film, and James gave a brilliant performance. Won't even mention Forest Whitaker, because we all know he got every movie award there is for his role.
"Inside I'm Dancing" (Rory O'Shea was here) is another movie I would recommend. :yay:

From the cast, besides James and Kevin, I know Nicholas Hoult,
Oliver Platt, Michael Fassbender, Rose Byrne and January Jones.

[TNC9852002]

Its about the size of X1.
and there are articles still wondering if there are too many characters... :dry:

[Deaths Head II]

I only know Fassbender from 300 and Kevin Bacon for too many films to count. So I'm taking everyone's word that this is a solid cast and not a bad one.

[scatterax]

x-men vs tremors. from the people who brought you avp....


j/k

[Seen]

Michael Fassbender is my top pick for James Bond if Craig gets replaced for whatever idiotic reason.

[TheFuture]

I only know Fassbender from 300 and Kevin Bacon for too many films to count. So I'm taking everyone's word that this is a solid cast and not a bad one.

For anyone who wants to see what Fassbender is capable of I'd suggest Hunger and Fish Tank. :up:

[bert19]

I know most of them.

James McAvoy - I hated Wanted, but I loved him Atonement and Narnia (McAvoy has genuinely made it through the ranks, from small, regular roles in comedies like 'Early Doors' to the lead roles in TV shows like 'Shameless' which is a big hit here in the UK).

Fassbender - Inglorious Basterds (his CV is just a list of popular/good quality TV shows and a few serious films. suggesting he's talented).

Kevin Bacon - obviously.

Oliver Platt - tons of movies, one Broadway show

January Jones - Mad Men, Love Actually

Jennifer Lawrence - Winter's Bone (which I saw this summer - great movie) (how can you not get excited about an actress who's in a movie called 'The Beaver' !?!)
Nicholas Hoult - About a Boy (had big success with a TV show called 'Skins' here in Britain since then).

Edi Gathegi - Twilight (sadly) (he was in House for a while if i'm not mistaken)

Rose Byrne - Troy, a few other movies, I think... (she was in Attack of the Clones and managed to have a career after, she must be ok).



you forgot Jason Flemyng too, who's been in all sorts of good stuff from Lock, Stock... , Snatch, Benjamin Button......

[JP]

Just a heads up, Tomorrow night is the Emmy Awards in the US. Both January Jones (Emma) and Rose Byrne (Moira) are nominated. Also, Kevin Bacon will probably be there supporting his wife, as usual. So, expect them to do lots of red carpet interviews and if we're lucky, people will ask some First Class questions.

[Crockett]

Cool, cross fingers. Btw here's hoping that Mad Men win the award for Outstanding Drama Series for the third time.

[JP]

Actually never watched Mad Men. Or Damages. So, I have no idea what Byrne and Jones actually chances of winning are.

[Crockett]

I'm not sure of Jones chances of winning since I haven't seen the other shows, but Jones is a talented actress so here's hoping that maybe this year she could win.

[Project862006]

is'nt Hendricks more likely to win from mad men actresses

[Sentinel X]

Ahhhh, I love "Wanted". :csad: :oldrazz:
Have you seen "The Last King of Scotland", danoyse? A wonderful film, and James gave a brilliant performance. Won't even mention Forest Whitaker, because we all know he got every movie award there is for his role.
"Inside I'm Dancing" (Rory O'Shea was here) is another movie I would recommend. :yay:

From the cast, besides James and Kevin, I know Nicholas Hoult,
Oliver Platt, Michael Fassbender, Rose Byrne and January Jones. The Last King of Scotland is such a great film and James did a great job! Hes a good actor (as you said though...Forest Whitaker owned that role. amazing performance).

So far that cast is looking really really good. I have NO complaints. :yay:

[JP]

is'nt Hendricks more likely to win from mad men actresses
She's nominated for Supporting (same category as Byrne). Jones is nomated for Lead Actress.

[Doctor Jones]

I only know Fassbender from 300 and Kevin Bacon for too many films to count. So I'm taking everyone's word that this is a solid cast and not a bad one.

See Inglourious Basterds man. Next to Waltz, Fassenbender gives the best performance.

[JP]

I knew McAvoy from Narnia and Wanted.
Never saw IB until literally the day before Fassbender was officially cast.
Knew Platt and Bacon from about everything.
Knew Hoult from Skins.
Flemyng from Kick-Ass. Actually I was watching Kick-Ass with the commentary on and when Flemyng came on screen Vaughn mentioned how he was in all of his films. I immediately thought about who he'd play in First Class. 3 days later it was announced.

[Deaths Head II]

Huh. I don't remember Flemyng from Kick-Ass. According to IMDB he was "Lobby Goon." Though I wouldn't be surprised if his role in this film isn't much bigger.

[Project862006]

he is the dude hit girl shot in the mouth

[Deaths Head II]

Oh.

Well I guess he did a convincing job of getting shot in the mouth.

[david icke]

Jason Fleming also played Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde in the LOXG movie, I didn't think much of that flick, but i liked him in that role.

[TNC9852002]

I haven't seen Flemyng in a role I didn't like...but then again, his roles were always small in the movies he appeared in.. :p

[Loganbabe]

I knew McAvoy from Narnia and Wanted.
Oh, you must watch Atonement, JP! I think it's James' best role, and he was totally robbed of an Academy nomination that year (I still wonder why the hell Tommy-Lee Jones was nominated :o ). And for The Last King of Scotland too, as supporting actor, when you think about it.

[Figs]

I haven't seen Flemyng in a role I didn't like...but then again, his roles were always small in the movies he appeared in.. :p

He was the main character in George Romero's film Bruiser, did a pretty good job too.

[Sub-Zero]

if this is set in the 60s why is cyclops's younger brother, played by a 20 something, in it? this just sounds like x3, where they just throw in x-men for no reason.

[Sawyer]

I kind of have to agree with you there. I'm more than happy with pretty much all the cast of characters, but Havok just seems off to me. I guess we'll see what they have planned, but... just seems like an odd addition.

[Project862006]

weird point people keep bringing up lol

this is not the comics

havoc being older or younger than cyclops really has no standing

[huzzah]

weird point people keep bringing up lol

this is not the comics

havoc being older or younger than cyclops really has no standing

It's a legitimate question. Why the need for the deviation from the comics?

[Mogwai]

who knows? they probably feel they can't introduce cyclops at this time but want a connection to him.

[Michellemabelle]

I don't see the problem. The X-Men series has deviated from the comics numerous times before. I don't see how Alex being younger or older than Scott is that big a deal.

[Project862006]

i know it is same character but think since they cant really do angel can they can go archangel route for future films?

[terry78]

May as well treat this like an alternate version of the original story. Ultimate deviated extremely, as has other non-616 versions. That's how you have to look at the movieverse I guess.

[TNC9852002]

That's exactly how I look at it and almost every other CB movie...

[scatterax]

y would sum1 try to fit movies in the comic cont. anyway?

[JP]

NBC will have red carpet coverage of the Emmys in 4 hours. E! will have it in 3. I realize most of you would rather hang yourselves than watch that. So, I'm taking one for the team, haha. If Jones, Byrne, or Bacon mention anything about First Class I'll let ya know.

:p

[knowsbleed]

The UK Film Council is responsible for providing funding for many movies, including James McAvoy's "The Last King of Scotland," which won Forest Whitaker an Oscar for Best Actor.

This is the reason why McAvoy has been very vocal in his opposition to government plans to shut down the organization as part of a bigger strategy to cut costs. And this became a huge problem once the actor was cast in "X-Men: First Class."

Director Matthew Vaughn (Kick-Ass) believes The UK Film Council needs to be closed due to the incredible amount of money it wastes. He instead would like to see a completely new organization created.

Vaughn has revealed to the Daily Mail that he and McAvoy have discussed theirs views on the situation, which created a bit of a rift between the two men.

"James and I have discussed this," said Vaughn. "He's still in the movie... just. James is an actor and actors don't necessarily know what's best for them. That's on the record. But he's a brilliant actor and he'll be great in this film."

It seems that throwing the word "just" in there may mean that this issue is so important to McAvoy that he may actually leave "First Class."

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18816&count=0

[JP]

Yeah, that was mentioned a few days ago.. But I love seeing every site over exaggerate it and make it seem as if Vaughn and McAvoy had this huge blowout and McAvoy may actually leave the production. :whatever:

Anything to stir up drama and get hits I suppose.

It's kind of like when Access Hollywood asked High Jackman what he thought about Taylor Lautner replacing him as Wolverine. Next thign you know every website is reporting "TAYLOR LAUTNER SET TO PLAY YOUNG WOLVERINE IN FIRST CLASS". Or, when Vaughn mentioned the Inception thing and all the sites reported "VAUGHN TRASHED 12 PAGES OF SCRIPT! FIRST CLASS IN SHAMBLES!"

And now, Vaughn makes a tongue in cheek comment about McAvoy and now "JAMES MCAVOY MIGHT EXIT FIRST CLASS!!"

[knowsbleed]

Sorry for reposting it... let's pretend I didn't.

[JP]

Sorry for reposting it... let's pretend I didn't.
I'm glad you did, because it brings up the topic of horrible journalism. Or whatever you call what movie sites do.