OFFICIAL: Dominic Cooper to play Young Howard Stark! [Archive]

OptimusPrime114

05-24-2010, 05:04 PM

Dominic Cooper is playing Young Howard Stark!

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That makes three different men that will end up collaborating to bring the once war mongering, turned world saving, industrialist to life on the silver screen. Though the past two times Stark Senior appeared may have been brief, Cooper's time on film (http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=18455#) will definitely show his importance to the Marvelhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=18455#) Cinematic Universe.

According to dialogue from Iron Man 2, Howard Stark was not only a wealthy man who wanted to change the world, but a founding member of the clandestine government agency S.H.I.E.L.D. It's also very safe to assume that Stark will have a hand (http://**************.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=18455#) in the Super Soldier Program, which birthed the film's title character, Captain America.

Information courtesy of Salon.com

FaT_tONle

05-24-2010, 05:20 PM

He's kind of old for Howard in WW2. Howard needs to be early 20's oldest. I'm not sure he can pull that off.

Webhead2006

05-24-2010, 06:08 PM

how old is dominic, and yr howard would have to be in early 20s in ww2, if he is like 50s/early 60s by 70s, and was born in early 20s.

Son of Coul

05-24-2010, 06:09 PM

I hear good things about his acting, but you'd think they'd get a guy who looks a little more like John Slattery. No big deal though, he's close enough. How old is he? I think he could pass for early 20s based on pics I've seen.

marcvader

05-24-2010, 06:12 PM

But how much would an early 20 something really be able to contribute unless he was someone elses pee-on

Webhead2006

05-24-2010, 06:13 PM

yea he is a good actor, but i did think they were going to go with a bit younger guy. plus really i dont see the need he had to be a known actor for the role either. But i hope it turns out good. Yea hair, makeup, dress they will probably make him look a few yrs younger. Well if we are going by age stark sr. was in early 70s, he has to be in early to mid 20s during ww2. Plus we know he was a brillant scientist and designer right. so yea he was young in ww2 doesnt mean he wasnt on board secret projects due to how brillant he was.

Son of Coul

05-24-2010, 06:30 PM

Looks like they were going more for RDJ than John Slattery with looks, which actually kind of makes sense. In my parents' old photos, they look a lot like me as opposed to how they look today.
http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss166/myabiiya/misc/dominiccooper.jpg

Parker Wayne

05-24-2010, 06:56 PM

I like the pic. He looks more like RDJ than John Slattery, and in a way, that makes sense. Cooper can act too. I've seen him in An Education, and he was good in that. This sounds like a good casting choice now.

Carlo Comicus

05-25-2010, 06:14 AM

Cooper i's a good, good actor. I have seen him in An Education and Mamma Mia! and in Tamara Drewe it's awesome.

Iron_Stark

05-25-2010, 08:28 AM

But how much would an early 20 something really be able to contribute unless he was someone elses pee-on

Or he was a genius like Tony Stark.

TheFuture

05-25-2010, 08:58 AM

But how much would an early 20 something really be able to contribute unless he was someone elses pee-on

Well considering Tony Stark was a boy genius who was making engines when still a kid that should not be an issue.

hugekent

05-25-2010, 09:07 AM

He couldn't look any less like RDJ. Maybe I'm going blind...

OB12

05-25-2010, 09:13 AM

I can see the resemblance to RDJ but he looks nothing like Jon Slattery. Cooper has a rounder face and fuller features while Slattery has a kind of long slender face with some sharp features. I have never seen Cooper in anything, can he do a convincing American accent?

FaT_tONle

05-25-2010, 10:21 AM

But how much would an early 20 something really be able to contribute unless he was someone elses pee-on

He can't be closer in age to Oppenheimer or Howard Hughes because those guys were in their 40s in WW2 and if he's closer to that age than 20, he probably had Tony when he was 60, which makes little sense.

05-25-2010, 11:28 AM

Fantastic. :up:

Cooper is awesome.

Figs

05-25-2010, 11:42 AM

I don't think i've seen him in anything but not sure about his look. The pic they used in the article makes him look like the town idiot. :hehe:

Webhead2006

05-25-2010, 01:37 PM

yea like i figured howard was what in 60s in the 70s right. So factor back 40s he has to be in is early to mid 20s at that time and born in the early 20s.

ElMariachi

05-25-2010, 05:07 PM

Parker Wayne

05-25-2010, 05:36 PM

Of course they're going to make adjustments. He's not going to look like what he looks like in the picture. I won't be surprised if they add a mustache or beard in addition to a more 40s look.

Son of Coul

05-25-2010, 05:46 PM

I am not as excited about this casting. He is probally a good actor, but how will his accent hold up? Also, he looks way too young. Howard Stark is supposed to be a genius and someobody who worked on the Manhattan project. I know Tony is a prodigy, but I have a hard time buying this babyfaced guy as Howard.

yea like i figured howard was what in 60s in the 70s right. So factor back 40s he has to be in is early to mid 20s at that time and born in the early 20s.
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FaT_tONle

05-25-2010, 05:58 PM

Be honest, if they wanted an accurate time frame, I'd have casted someone born in the late 80s. Yeah that wouldn't have been believable as an influential figure, but honestly who is going to have their first kid in their mid 50's or 60s? Labeouf or Radcliffe would have been more accurate from an age perspective.

marcvader

05-25-2010, 08:57 PM

FaT_tONle

05-25-2010, 11:16 PM

You just got to do a better job anticipating these things. These continuity things aren't that noticeable, but under closer examination things like this become glaring. I am sure it won't be the last continuity issue from this MCU. I hope they at least realize it's a minor problem and go clean shave with heavy ass makeup.

flickchick85

05-25-2010, 11:37 PM

I like Cooper, but having 3 actors playing this character is getting a little ridiculous. Wouldn't it have made more sense to cast younger and just age him for Iron Man 2? I mean, it's not like they had the excuse of not knowing that they were gonna need a younger Howard Stark in another movie, did they? They couldn't have cast someone who looks less like Slattery if they tried.

That said, I do see the RDJ resemblance. I just wish they'd cast him instead of Slattery for IM2 (though I liked JS in the role, for the record) and aged him. Oh well. He's a good actor and he's eye candy for me, so I can't complain too much.

ETA: Ok, so Young John Slattery looks quite a bit different than I thought, too:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5406/johnslatteryyoungheadsh.jpg

So I guess if I squint really, really hard, I can see a tiny resemblance....

marcvader

05-26-2010, 12:22 AM

Young Slattery kinda looks like RDJ moreso than Cooper.

Chewy

05-26-2010, 10:11 AM

but having 3 actors playing this character is getting a little ridiculous.
Can we really say the guy from the first Iron Man "played" the character? Wasn't he in, like, 2 pictures, each of which was on-screen for a half second?

Parker Wayne

05-26-2010, 11:03 AM

To me, the guy can act, end of story in my eyes.

If there is a continuity error with age, its a small continuity error and not that important. He's not a major character in the series so his age shouldn't matter that much. I don't think many people are going to be bothered by that. I won't.

Webhead2006

05-26-2010, 12:19 PM

well like soemone said in another thread sure its will be 3 guys and all that. But im 1 doesnt really matter due to just be a few photos we see for a few seconds and all that. Then john S is playing elder age stark in his 60s or so. So of course they would want to go with a younger guy for 1940s scenes where he would be 20s or so. Cause it would be tough making older guy look younger with out blowing alot of money on. But yea they should have tried to get someone looking a bit more like john s but we dont know yet how stark is going to look in his 40s scenes. For all we know cooper could end up looking closer to stark sr older look.

NickNitro

05-26-2010, 01:49 PM

The fact that people are upset about 3 different actors astounds me. Its really 2 different actors because I for one barely remember the first Papa Stark in IM1. And having a GOOD actor apposed to a crap actor that looks the part is really not an argument.

Ive never seen this guy act but everyone has good things to say about him so I am all for it. I cant wait for Cap and Thor! LETS GO COMICON SHOW US SOME SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET STUFF!

flickchick85

05-26-2010, 01:53 PM

Can we really say the guy from the first Iron Man "played" the character? Wasn't he in, like, 2 pictures, each of which was on-screen for a half second?
We have 3 different images of the character for 3 different movies. I didn't begrudge them the recast after the first Iron Man, because like you said, he was just in pictures, and there were many unknown factors involved, including the success of the movie and whether there would ever be any need for the character again. But when making IM2, they didn't have that excuse.

Oh well, what's done is done, and like I said, I don't hate it because Cooper's a good actor who does bear resemblance to RDJ, and I look forward to seeing what he does with the role.

Doctor Jones

05-26-2010, 04:20 PM

I wouldn't count on anything big. I only expect to see him possibly present at the experiment of Steve and then the Expo which probably won't take much screen time.

kedrell

05-26-2010, 06:17 PM

He can't be closer in age to Oppenheimer or Howard Hughes because those guys were in their 40s in WW2 and if he's closer to that age than 20, he probably had Tony when he was 60, which makes little sense.

Howard's a rich, captain of industry type. These guys often marry much younger women to give them heirs. Last I checked, guys can pretty much remain fertile until they die. I don't see a problem with Howard fathering Tony when he was 55-65 years old or so. IM2 already stated that he didn't have the burden of raising Tony(which still would have been obvious even if they hadn't out-right said it).

I am not as excited about this casting. He is probally a good actor, but how will his accent hold up? Also, he looks way too young. Howard Stark is supposed to be a genius and someobody who worked on the Manhattan project. I know Tony is a prodigy, but I have a hard time buying this babyfaced guy as Howard.

The Manhattan Project was something he was a contributor to. That's all. It wasn't his brain child or anything. He's a very smart guy who came from money already(like Howard Hughes) and parlayed that into the defense contractor game. This also would have put him involved with Operation: Rebirth(also, not a program of his design but that he contributed to).

I SEE SPIDEY

05-26-2010, 07:02 PM

Iron_Stark

05-26-2010, 07:25 PM

I hope Marvel doesn't ruin this movie with all that Avengers nonsense the same way they ruined IM2 for me. If I read reviews saying that CA is just another Avenger's ad ala Iron Man 2, count me the f**k out.

:whatever:

Here we go again.

They only mention the Avengers at the very end of Iron Man 2 and all of a sudden it's an Avengers commercial.

Just do everyone a favor and count yourself out already.

Parker Wayne

05-26-2010, 07:52 PM

Once again, SHIELD, BW, and Nick Fury were all a part of Iron Man's mythology so it makes sense why SHIELD was in IM2. If SHIELD didn't have a bigger presence I bet people would complain about that.

I SEE SPIDEY

05-26-2010, 07:59 PM

:whatever:

Here we go again.

They only mention the Avengers at the very end of Iron Man 2 and all of a sudden it's an Avengers commercial.

Just do everyone a favor and count yourself out already.Well yes. That is my and alot of other people's opinions about the film. Deal with it.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as you are entitled to yours.

Don't care that you don't agree with me. *shrugs*

As I said, after the cluttered mess that was Iron Man 2 I hope that Captain America isn't a simular cluttered mess. I hope that CA is about the character and his adventure and not another toy commercial. I'm not going to argue about IM2 in this thread anymore because we are off topic.

But I remained concerned about CA because of Marvel's trackrecord. The Incredible Hulk was only okay and Iron Man 2 was worse than it. I hope a good movie comes about but stuff like this news makes my hopes go down.

Parker Wayne

05-26-2010, 08:01 PM

Well IM2's two big problem was the story and the lack of a good screenwriter. How good is Whedon as a screenwriter since I hear he's rewriting Cap?

Webhead2006

05-26-2010, 11:50 PM

i cant wait to see what they are planning to do with stark sr. in ww2.

Dark Raven

05-27-2010, 06:17 AM

I wonder if Maria Stark will have a role in the movie? Even a cameo would be nice and tie into the Iron Man continuity, and would be like a mini Iron Man prequel. Maybe it could show Howard Stark meeting Maria.

kedrell

05-27-2010, 06:50 AM

Maria is much, much younger than Howard. If she's alive at all in WWII, she'd just be a small child.

Dark Raven

05-27-2010, 06:54 AM

Maria is much, much younger than Howard. If she's alive at all in WWII, she'd just be a small child.

Well they could still hint at her. Maybe a young girl named Maria comes to watch Howard in his lab, or sees a picture/ footage of him and is transfixed.

kedrell

05-27-2010, 06:58 AM

Howard is transfixed or Maria is? If the latter then ok, if the former then ewwww!!!

FaT_tONle

05-27-2010, 09:34 AM

Don't complicate this **** more than it already is... the last thing we need is Anakin aging ten years when Amidala ages like three years in the same time span. Still have trouble working that one out. But seriously, if Maria shows up, she'd be in grade school, while Howard is already in his late twenties or thirties. I'd be worse than the movie Cooper was just in, An Education, only instead of him it was Peter Saarsgard screwing a girl fifteen years younger than him.

marcvader

05-27-2010, 11:18 AM

Mrs. Stark has no significance to Cap's story and really pointless to include her.

Chris B

05-27-2010, 02:34 PM

I don't have a problem with this. Cooper has a vague resemblance to RDJ and can pass for mid 20's. I mean, it would've been a waste of money to bring in John Slattery and digitally de-age him when you can just get a younger actor for what will likely be only a small role.

Dark Raven

05-27-2010, 02:59 PM

Howard is transfixed or Maria is? If the latter then ok, if the former then ewwww!!!

I meant Maria is transfixed!!

In any event, since the movies aren't following the comics exactly, Maria doesn't need to be a young girl. She could be older, maybe a teenager or early 20s. In the comics, Sue Storm was much younger than Reed Richards, but in the movies, she wasn't that much younger at all.

kedrell

05-27-2010, 05:08 PM

If we follow that logic, then Maria would've been 50+ when she gave birth to Tony in the early 1970's. I can buy Howard being older but Maria being that old is a hard sell. It's much easier to simply have it that Howard married a much younger woman(around 20 years younger).

Webhead2006

05-27-2010, 05:48 PM

probably

Stripesy Strip

05-30-2010, 10:53 AM

The problem lies in Iron Mans origin being moved forward from the Vietnam era to Afghanistan. Therefore Stark Sr. would realistically be more significant to the Korean or even Vietnam War eras. But what can you do when he's needed for WWII. The only problem I have is that for me Stark Sr. has always been an industrialist/visionary not a child genius like his son which is what I view as Tony's special ability.

They're so obsessed of tying everything together because of the Avengers. Howard Stark did not need to create Shield or being tied to WWII.

I didn't like the part in IM 2 where Tony finds a formula hidden by his father because like you said, if the father has everything that the boy has, then Tony is not that great and it becomes the Ang Lee Hulk movie. Howard is an industrialist and a weapon manifacturer but not an inventor.

FaT_tONle

05-30-2010, 07:16 PM

Yeah they sort of shoe-horned the Howard/SHIELD tidbit in IM2. They always wanted him to be a significant historical figure so it made sense to tie him into something like the Manhattan Project. He should have been more of a Cold War guy that was involved in the Space Race, nuclear arms race, or the Strategic Defense Initiative. If he was a grad student working on the Manhattan Project then fine. But that's too young to be founder of the SHIELD and such.