View Full Version : Should Whiplash be brought back for IM3?
Chris B
05-27-2010, 02:43 PM
I know the kneejerk reaction from some people will be "he can't because he's dead" but keep in mind that we never saw the explosion and Vanko could've easily have gotten out of the suit and gone to a safe distance or he deactivated the bomb in his suit which was maybe still functioning enough for him to fly off.
So since they left his fate ambiguous enough to leave open a possible return should we see Whiplash come back in IM3? Personally, I'd love it if he did and I think he could still serve the story.
Squidboy
05-28-2010, 02:10 PM
They showed his body, but it hasn't been stated that he's dead or not. I'd like for him to appear in a cameo maybe (think Scarecrow in The Dark Knight), but otherwise we should get a new villain altogether.
Superhero 101
05-28-2010, 03:22 PM
It would be nice to see him return
Squidboy
05-30-2010, 06:38 PM
It'd be a nice change of pace from most superhero movies that keep a villain around for one film and then kill them off by the end of it
lukedoggwalker
05-31-2010, 04:12 AM
YES and bring him back as the Crimson Dynamo <33
Squidboy
05-31-2010, 04:13 PM
Or Crimson Dynamo 2.0 and establish that his Father had tried to be the original C D, but was sued to hell and back by Howark Stark when he attempted to use the prototype based on their shared designs. Put another nail in that dead man's coffin! Do it, Marvel!
Chris B
06-03-2010, 02:12 PM
YES and bring him back as the Crimson Dynamo <33
I'd leave him as Whiplash personally. Though add some more weapons to the suit and paint it a dark burgundy.
Danalys
06-04-2010, 08:46 AM
Or Crimson Dynamo 2.0 and establish that his Father had tried to be the original C D, but was sued to hell and back by Howark Stark when he attempted to use the prototype based on their shared designs. Put another nail in that dead man's coffin! Do it, Marvel!
Neither Ivan or Anton invented suits in the movie. that's part of what Ivan used Hammer for. Tony didn't need any of Howard's tech to create the Ironman suit other than arc reactor tech, which had been a joint Anton and Howard invention.
On topic I tend to believe Whiplash is dead. I have liked recurring villain's in the past, Mystique and Magneto come to mind. Perhaps Mandarin can be a threat for more than one film almost guaranteeing a good 3rd and 4th movie. I think if they are going to have a recurring Villian in films, it has to be the arch nemesis.
Iron_Stark
06-05-2010, 05:33 PM
Unsure.
I'd rather have Mandarin/Ghost combo but Whiplash going back to Mandarin telling him he failed would also be nice.
VenomVsSpidey
06-05-2010, 10:38 PM
Neither Ivan or Anton invented suits in the movie. that's part of what Ivan used Hammer for. Tony didn't need any of Howard's tech to create the Ironman suit other than arc reactor tech, which had been a joint Anton and Howard invention.
On topic I tend to believe Whiplash is dead. I have liked recurring villain's in the past, Mystique and Magneto come to mind. Perhaps Mandarin can be a threat for more than one film almost guaranteeing a good 3rd and 4th movie. I think if they are going to have a recurring Villian in films, it has to be the arch nemesis.
Actually, IM3 is the last one. ftr.:word:
Anubis
06-05-2010, 11:04 PM
No.
They got one more to do supposedly and bringing him back would take away from the next villain which will hopefully be the Mandarin.
HighFivingMF
06-07-2010, 03:00 PM
I would have liked if Vanko and Obadiah ended up locked up. That way in the Marvel Universe there would be an actual rogues gallery. They wouldn't ever have to use the villains but I'd like knowing that out there Blonsky, Obadiah, Vanko, and Hammer are still out there and genuinely pissed off.
ross2287
06-08-2010, 02:08 PM
I would have liked if Vanko and Obadiah ended up locked up. That way in the Marvel Universe there would be an actual rogues gallery. They wouldn't ever have to use the villains but I'd like knowing that out there Blonsky, Obadiah, Vanko, and Hammer are still out there and genuinely pissed off.
:up:
3dman27
06-12-2010, 03:59 PM
I'd leave him as Whiplash personally. Though add some more weapons to the suit and paint it a dark burgundy.
this works for me
Wesley Dodds
06-12-2010, 04:12 PM
Didnt he blow himself up?
I've seen IM2 twice now and i'm starting to reckon I must've missed something...
Blackman
06-12-2010, 08:02 PM
No he shoudlnt but bring Hammer back
kedrell
06-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Didnt he blow himself up?
I've seen IM2 twice now and i'm starting to reckon I must've missed something...
We're made to think that but then we never actually saw him blow up, did we? Vanko wasn't suicidal or anything. Makes just as much sense that he used those explosions to try one last ditch effort to kill Tony and/or at least cause him some grief by harming people he cared about as well as using the entire thing to cover his own escape.
Iron Mandarin
06-26-2010, 02:42 PM
No! We are finished with him. Bring on the Mandarin or the Controller and thow in Madame Masque!
Wesley Dodds
06-26-2010, 03:30 PM
We're made to think that but then we never actually saw him blow up, did we? Vanko wasn't suicidal or anything. Makes just as much sense that he used those explosions to try one last ditch effort to kill Tony and/or at least cause him some grief by harming people he cared about as well as using the entire thing to cover his own escape.
Fair enough.
And my answer the question is No.
It's Mandarin time...
kedrell
06-28-2010, 01:47 PM
I agree that he probably shouldn't return. There are plenty of other villains who deserve a shot at bat.
BigSams50
08-25-2010, 08:21 AM
No, he shouldn't return. IM3 should be all about Mandarin.
Iron_Stark
08-26-2010, 03:19 PM
No, he shouldn't return. IM3 should be all about Mandarin.
Agreed, but I think Ghost would be awesome as a henchman type villain that infiltrates SI and tries to steals plans.
Anubis
08-26-2010, 03:21 PM
Ghost shoulda been the villain in IM2 instead of Whiplash. The plot was waaay too similar to the first one. Having a Big Business terrorist going after him to make him pay for all the people he's killed with his weapons over the years woulda been hella better than revenge with similarly made armors with a greedy business man on the side.
BigSams50
08-27-2010, 10:49 AM
I agree that Ghost should be in IM3 as a henchman of Mandarins. But i dont think he shoulda replaced Whiplash in IM2. I thought Rourke was a great whiplash. Its just they didn't show enough of him.
Anubis
08-27-2010, 01:19 PM
Rourke coulda just as easily made a good Ghost.
Chris B
08-27-2010, 02:00 PM
Eh I don't know. I think Rourke is too much of a bruiser type to play the Ghost.
Though I'm also hoping we get the Ghost in IM3, along with the Titanium Man, as the Mandarin's henchmen.
BigSams50
08-28-2010, 01:28 AM
Man i'd go ape **** if we got Ghost Titanium Man, and Mandarin in IM3
Spider-Fan
11-05-2010, 05:48 PM
He's dead and we're done with him. Let's move on to the Mandarin :up:
While I'd say no for the most part, I wouldn't mind it (if they DID), if they used him to show Tony getting overconfident again, just before the Mandarin shows up.
In other words, Vanko attacks, Tony whips his butt easily and explodes with "remember how he put up a fight before, now I can take him down with a one repulsor tied behind my back" arrogance.
Would nicely set up the shock of his life getting thrashed by the Mandarin or one of his employees (Ghost?).
I like the 'rogue's gallery' reason too, even if he's seen just sitting in a cell next to Blonksy - awesome!
AVEITWITHJAMON
02-04-2011, 07:35 AM
I would prefer Hammer to come back more than Whiplash, Whiplash for all intents and purposes is dead and his arc finished, Hammer looked like he was just getting started at the end of IM2 though.
kedrell
02-04-2011, 09:26 AM
^I agree, although there could be things Whippy did that were not shown yet but could be revealed later that could generate all kinds of useful conflict for Iron Man. Mainly, getting the tech designs of his out to the wider world so that Stark's main objective of keeping a lid on it would be foiled. Once nice last F-U from Ivan to Tony.
Shawkur
05-16-2011, 07:27 AM
The Ghost should either be the mastermind in a movie or side character with his own agenda rather than a straight up henchman, imo.
lopli
05-22-2011, 05:12 PM
I think Whiplash died. The only way i could see him living is if he somehow ejected himself from the suit, but I doubt it. I think his story is done.
Gotham Knight
06-20-2011, 12:34 AM
He could have been used so much better, but I don't think they should bring him back.
psylockolussus
06-28-2011, 08:06 AM
Nope, IM3 needs new villain/s.
bullets
08-03-2011, 08:08 PM
I agree about the new villains. Mainly Mandarin but I also want Hammer to appear again.
Optimus_Prime_
08-13-2011, 04:34 PM
I would have liked if Vanko and Obadiah ended up locked up. That way in the Marvel Universe there would be an actual rogues gallery. They wouldn't ever have to use the villains but I'd like knowing that out there Blonsky, Obadiah, Vanko, and Hammer are still out there and genuinely pissed off.
Blonksy, Red Skull, Loki and Hammer are definitely still alive.
Ultra Lantern
11-25-2011, 12:42 AM
I don't think that Whiplash needs to come back for Iron Man 3.
Spiderine
12-02-2011, 07:53 PM
Meh, his story is done as far as I'm concerned besides I am more interested in Hammer returning and how he ties in with the Mandarin.
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