Episode #10-1: "Lazarus"

[SuperNoob]

And NOW we know! Title posted at K-Site. Commence excitement.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/

- The term "Lazarus" has been used before on the series, in Season Three, where it was a serum that brought a deceased human back to life for 12 hours, as had happened with Adam Knight. It's also well-known in the DC Comics universe as the "Lazarus Pit" is a term used in Batman comics, usually associated with Ra's Al Ghul. The Pit has rejuvenating abilities that can render someone youthful and nearly immortal. The fourth season premiere of Supernatural was titled "Lazarus Rising" and was about Dean's return to the world of the living, and of course there is the Lazarus referred to in the Christian Bible, a man who was restored to life by Jesus in the Book of John. Perhaps one or all of these things are clues on how Clark will survive his fall.

[Gianakin_]

Smells like a mini-tribute to the Death of Superman arc from the comics. Perhaps Clark really dying and the whole episode is dedicated to bringing him back? Of course, this means they have to bring Jonathan Kent as a ghost or something, like in the Return of Superman arc. Oh, the possibilities!

[MAN O STEEL]

Yep. Sounds obvious at this point that it'll be Clark taking a dirt nap & the others finding a serum to bring his ass back to life. Sounds pretty generic to me, but I'll reserve my full on cynicism for the actual plot Synopsis. We got a title atleast, HAPPY DAYS!




Steve

[Gianakin_]

Hopefully not a serum but something else, something better. But I truly want them to include nods to the comics trilogy about Superman's death in the 90s.

[Prison Mike]

Good title.

[Johnny]

Awesome.

[Webhead2006]

I just read about the title myself. I agree cool title. Cant wait to see where things go with premiere.

[KBX]

I wasn't thinking about Clark coming back from the dead, but more on the lines of Tess. She did die, and the little old lady has got to do something to bring her back.

[SrsBsns]

Great title. I really don't think Clark is going to die though. My first thought was actually about Tess being resurrected. I'm also certain that it pertains to Clark but in a metaphorical way. In "Doomsday" he said, "Clark Kent is dead." Then season nine was the darker side of Clark. That side of him is dead, too. This is the resurrection of the classic Clark Kent we all know. **** yeah!

[SpideyVille]

Great title. I really don't think Clark is going to die though. My first thought was actually about Tess being resurrected. I'm also certain that it pertains to Clark but in a metaphorical way. In "Doomsday" he said, "Clark Kent is dead." Then season nine was the darker side of Clark. That side of him is dead, too. This is the resurrection of the classic Clark Kent we all know. **** yeah!
I like that idea!

Personally, I first thought of Supernatural's season 4 premiere, which was to shown Dean coming back to life, so I think there is a resurrection theme of some sort. I'm wondering though, if Clark falls and lands, wouldn't his body go splat? I mean he could remove the Blue K before the impact and survive but appear dead, although that reminds me more of how Superman was thought to be dead in the end of Superman Returns, since he too fell straight to the ground after some weakening exposure to kryptonite.

[Bad Superman]

And NOW we know! Title posted at K-Site. Commence excitement.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/

- The term "Lazarus" has been used before on the series, in Season Three, where it was a serum that brought a deceased human back to life for 12 hours, as had happened with Adam Knight. It's also well-known in the DC Comics universe as the "Lazarus Pit" is a term used in Batman comics, usually associated with Ra's Al Ghul. The Pit has rejuvenating abilities that can render someone youthful and nearly immortal. The fourth season premiere of Supernatural was titled "Lazarus Rising" and was about Dean's return to the world of the living, and of course there is the Lazarus referred to in the Christian Bible, a man who was restored to life by Jesus in the Book of John. Perhaps one or all of these things are clues on how Clark will survive his fall.

He has to. If he didn't there would be no Season 10 :word:

[The Caped Knight]

Maybe Tess is restored back to life by a Lazarus Pit or perhaps Lex Luthor .

[Johnny]

No Lazarus pit or any other Batman element will take part in Smallville as long as the movie series is still going. I think we all know that for a very long time.

[Syncos]

Great title. I really don't think Clark is going to die though. My first thought was actually about Tess being resurrected. I'm also certain that it pertains to Clark but in a metaphorical way. In "Doomsday" he said, "Clark Kent is dead." Then season nine was the darker side of Clark. That side of him is dead, too. This is the resurrection of the classic Clark Kent we all know. **** yeah!


^ This.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be a reference to Tess' resurrection, and Clark's new lease on life.

[Man of Tomorrow]

And hopefully a tease of Lex coming back to life

[Rolf]

And hopefully a tease of Lex coming back to life

I've got it!


"Bone of the father (Lionel), unwillingly given"

"Flesh of the servant (Otis or Toyman) Willingly sacrificed"

"Blood of the enemy (Clark) Forcibly taken"

And TA DA: You have Lex!

[COMPO]

I wasn't thinking about Clark coming back from the dead, but more on the lines of Tess. She did die, and the little old lady has got to do something to bring her back.

I wonder if Clark will be resurrected by DarkSied the same as Tess with DarkSied wanting him to be his 'knight', Clark refuses and the result is DarkSied sending a series of super powered hit men and schemes to kill or trap Clark someone as he starts for his war on Earth.

[Young Superman]

Smells like a mini-tribute to the Death of Superman arc from the comics. Perhaps Clark really dying and the whole episode is dedicated to bringing him back? Of course, this means they have to bring Jonathan Kent as a ghost or something, like in the Return of Superman arc. Oh, the possibilities!


Great title, I'd love to see this happen just to see Pa Kent again.


And hopefully a tease of Lex coming back to life


Didn't Dr. Fate say Lex was still alive last season during Smallville: Absolute Justice?

[Man of Tomorrow]

Didn't Dr. Fate say Lex was still alive last season during Smallville: Absolute Justice?

He said Clark's ultimate enemy WILL be Lex Luthor...

He didn't reveal whether Lex was currently alive or not.

[Webhead2006]

yea i personally hope we dont have clark die again it would be what his 5th time or something. I rather it be clark is saved by hawkman or john jonez, the book of rao is taken off the consle and we go from there. Hopefully we get more details soon. As for resuraction it will probably just be Tess via granny goodness. Which i do still think they might turn tess into a female furies. It would be an interesting dynamic to go with the character.

[avidreader]

As for resuraction it will probably just be Tess via granny goodness. Which i do still think they might turn tess into a female furies. It would be an interesting dynamic to go with the character.

You cant have a season premiere title evolve solely around Tess.... that would be just wrong. :csad:

[Webhead2006]

i know i know, like someone else said it will probably be a metaphorical thing for clark being resuracted and tess is the only one who died and is brought back to life. Hopefully it will be cleared up once we have some episode details.

[Jason20]

If they do go with killing Clark off and the episode being about bringing him back to life I think the best thing to use to do that would be the Chrysalis in the Fortress. It was not only used to bring Clark back to life after his fight with Doomsday but also Conner/ Superboy in Final Crisis Legion of Three Worlds.
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/13/97/40/51/chrysa10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=444&u=13974051)
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Lets face it Clark is going to die, again, because he cant pull the blue kryptonite dagger out or he's going to follow the rest of his people to that new world. That mean this is going to be his what is it, third fourth death in the series. I dont mind this much, as long as they do something cool to bring him back. Hence the Chrysalis, and not just getting him close to the sun and J'onn losing his powers again. And as much as I'd like to see her again in the Season Opener if she comes to save Clark she's getting sucked up in the gold light as well.

It would also be cool if the one that comes to retrieve Clarks body is the Eradicator, they could say that Jor-El inplanted him as a final fail safe to keep Clark safe.

Also if it was Granny Goodness (And I highly hope it was!) outside Tess' room they could have her return her to Apokolips where Dr Bedlam clones Tess into one of his Animates and they then return her to earth where Darkseid can spy on Clark and his allies.

If they do go this route it would cool to see Darkseid capture The Eradicator and turn him to his side, then force him and Clark (Superman Hopefully!!!!) into fighting each other.

Heres a possible costume for The Eradicator based on rumors of Clarks costume from last year.

http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/13/97/40/51/eradic10.png (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=446&u=13974051)

[Brainiac 8]

It sounds plausible due to both Tess and Clark looking to be needing of a good ressurection.

[Syncos]

If they do go with killing Clark off and the episode being about bringing him back to life I think the best thing to use to do that would be the Chrysalis in the Fortress. It was not only used to bring Clark back to life after his fight with Doomsday but also Conner/ Superboy in Final Crisis Legion of Three Worlds.

Lets face it Clark is going to die, again, because he cant pull the blue kryptonite dagger out or he's going to follow the rest of his people to that new world. That mean this is going to be his what is it, third fourth death in the series. I dont mind this much, as long as they do something cool to bring him back. Hence the Chrysalis, and not just getting him close to the sun and J'onn losing his powers again. And as much as I'd like to see her again in the Season Opener if she comes to save Clark she's getting sucked up in the gold light as well.

It would also be cool if the one that comes to retrieve Clarks body is the Eradicator, they could say that Jor-El inplanted him as a final fail safe to keep Clark safe.

Also if it was Granny Goodness (And I highly hope it was!) outside Tess' room they could have her return her to Apokolips where Dr Bedlam clones Tess into one of his Animates and they then return her to earth where Darkseid can spy on Clark and his allies.

If they do go this route it would cool to see Darkseid capture The Eradicator and turn him to his side, then force him and Clark (Superman Hopefully!!!!) into fighting each other.

Heres a possible costume for The Eradicator based on rumors of Clarks costume from last year.


I thought the portal closed as soon as Zod went through...
I'm gonna have to watch it again.

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

I dont think the portal closed, i think it didnt have any other kryptonians to take since the blue k turned clark human, that was my take on it not saying you're wrong Syncos

[RAMORE]

If they do this Clark should come back in the black and silver suit from the comic when Doomsday killed him it would be form fitting like a standard costume to move him more towards a traditional look.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I thought the portal closed as soon as Zod went through...
I'm gonna have to watch it again.

It didn't.

The Book of Rao was still activated.

[Jason20]

The key is still in the podium or whatever, which means that its still open.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

I think the title has more to do with Tess than Clark.

[Jason20]

If they do this Clark should come back in the black and silver suit from the comic when Doomsday killed him it would be form fitting like a standard costume to move him more towards a traditional look.

I doubt that they'd use the Solar Suit. His costume last season was supossed to basically be the Solar Suit. Also Last season Clark was all about Dark shades, dark attitudes at times. They've said that this season would be the return of Clark.

Now after seeing the dream sequence at the beginning of the season finale I'm hopping to see him in the real super suit, if not in the first half of the season at least the last half of it. And if not that then I'd like to see that he's changed from the black shirt and coat to a blue shirt and red trench coat.

[RagingTempest]

Gotta say I was expecting a more powerful title like Rebirth, Redemption, Ascension, Uprising or even Protector, but Lazarus is fine I guess. My only problem is that it resembles the Supernatural Season premiere title (I know not every episode title is original).:oldrazz: I think this title refers to Tess (coming back to life) and Clark (metaphorically coming back to life from the darkness and embracing the light). I can't believe this will be the last season premiere.

[Webhead2006]

well like others have said the whole book thing. WE dont know if their is a limit to how close you have be to the book/console for it to teleport you. Then also we got characters like hawkman and martian manhunter who could easily catch clark and someone else pull out the book and bam. Clark doesnt die and the whole book of rao is settled.

As for the eradicator i doubt we will see him. The character is simular to brainiac, and peterson/souders mentioned they didnt really know the character and didnt have any plans for him. So i dont expect to see that character show up on smallville.

As for tess i could see her being used as a spy for darkseid/granny. Though i think it would be more fun to have her become a female fury and have her going toe to toe with clark and the jl.

[SV Fan]

I just hope they don't do another Clark dies and gets resurrected episode again. Been there, done that a few times and I am not a fan of that kind of storyline.

[KBX]

Im calling it now, before Clark hits the ground with the Blue K Dagger still in his chest, a portal opens, Clark goes though it, revealed that Orion uses a BoomTube to save Clark and warn him about the upcoming Apokolips that is heading his way!

[Webhead2006]

that would be neat kbx

[Young Superman]

Im calling it now, before Clark hits the ground with the Blue K Dagger still in his chest, a portal opens, Clark goes though it, revealed that Orion uses a BoomTube to save Clark and warn him about the upcoming Apokolips that is heading his way!

I'd likw that.

[The Caped Knight]

Smallville - Season 10 Premiere Friday, September 24

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/06/30/the-cw-announces-return-dates/

[Webhead2006]

cant wait for sept 24th to come!!!

[Dr Lee]

Original character returns (http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/110/1103014p1.html)

:wow:

[Webhead2006]

yea cant wait to see how they play it out.

[SuperNoob]

Wasn't there a scene in the Death of Superman story where Superman saw his dad in the afterlife, and he convinced him to go back because the world needed him? Or something similar?

[Webhead2006]

yea but smallville already did that before with the season 5 episode void
PkrPCuprz4E, and since johnhathn's death we have seen him appear like 2 times, plus in photos/montage in season 8 premiere. But its still cool we are getting him in person again. So i am curious to see how they will play with him in a vision or what not now.

[KALEL114]

Edit: already mentioned above.

[Prison Mike]

I'm calling it now. The entire series has been purgatory. :oldrazz:

[SuperNoob]

It's been said before, but it would PISS ME OFF if the last scene of the series is Clark being in the fortress, coming out of some trance, and hearing Jor-El say that it was all a simulation/trial, and that he was ready to show himself to the world as Superman.

I think there's zero chance of that, but I guess you never know with this show.

[MAN O STEEL]

The first episode will definitely be an afterlife vision, much like in Void. The second appearance is guaranteed to be the 200th. It's the biggest milestone for the show & being the last ever season they have to go all out in a big way. My guess also is that if Welling can get Rosenbaum back at all that it will be the 200th episode & the finale. I think Jonathan's appearance in the 200th eppie, or a later episode if i'm wrong will be Clark visiting his grave, talking to him one last time & Jonathan appearing behind him, they have a chat about becoming Superman & finally exposing himself to the world. i think it's this conversation that will finally make Clark see that it's ok to do so, that the world is better off having a hero who steps out of the shadows & offers a face & a symbol to believe in. Just my thought.



Steve

[The Caped Knight]

Original character returns (http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/110/1103014p1.html)

:wow:

Sweet :woot::woot::woot:

[Dr Lee]

The first episode will definitely be an afterlife vision, much like in Void. The second appearance is guaranteed to be the 200th. It's the biggest milestone for the show & being the last ever season they have to go all out in a big way. My guess also is that if Welling can get Rosenbaum back at all that it will be the 200th episode & the finale. I think Jonathan's appearance in the 200th eppie, or a later episode if i'm wrong will be Clark visiting his grave, talking to him one last time & Jonathan appearing behind him, they have a chat about becoming Superman & finally exposing himself to the world. i think it's this conversation that will finally make Clark see that it's ok to do so, that the world is better off having a hero who steps out of the shadows & offers a face & a symbol to believe in. Just my thought.

Steve

You've said everything i was about to say...

[Webhead2006]

snoob i doubt they would do something like that. As for jonathn kent return it will probably just be a vision like the season 5 episode void, or just a dream. Unless they wanted to play the undead card. Though i dont think they would go there.

[Asteroid-Man]

My guess on what happens to Clark is he bulls out the Blue-K, and the portal starts pulling him in the air. He reaches to shut it off, but just misses and keeps being pulled into the sky. We get a shot of the Kryptonian Generator/Computer and then we hear a "woosh" sound and Clark's hand comes into frame, as he pulls out the core. (A la Season 5 Premiere)

[Metamorpho1977]

Remember Dallas when they shot JR? The whole series since Jonathan died has been a dream

[Webhead2006]

come on you guys really think sv producers would pull some silly card like that.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm not a fan of the afterlife/heaven nonsense or of Clark dying AGAIN.

[the gael]

omg

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

UPDATED 6/30/10: IGN has broken the news that John Schneider will be appearing in this episode, reprising his role as Jonathan Kent, last seen in Season 5. Could it be as part of a near-death experience for Clark?

Pa Kent is back for the episode, it's so good !

[DavidB1111]

Unless they wanted to play the undead card. Though i dont think they would go there.
Ahhh! The Black Lanterns are coming! :) Nekron Vs. Darkseid. Poor Darkseid, he doesn't have a chance. "DIE!" <Darkseid falls over dead>
Joking aside, I think the title will have half to do with Tess and half to do with Clark.
"Your destiny is far too great for this to be the end of your journey, son." Johnathan could say that to him.


Also, if the second appearance might be in the 200th episode, the 4th episode of the season, what is that episode going to be about? Besides Crowded?

[Webhead2006]

gael the john s news was revealed yesterday and already talked about here. but yea its still cool. cant wait to see how things turn out.

[Rolf]

My guess is that Clark will spend most of this episode in the afterlife, reuniting with deceased characters. One of whom is Jonathan Kent, others would include Jor-El, Lara and Lionel Luthor. They would spend most of the episode trying to get him to return to the mortal world. Before he finally leaves, they tell him how he can contact them again whenever he chooses.

Clark would pay many visits to the afterlife throughout the season. During one he would discover that Lionel is keeping Lex's weakened and dilapidated soul. The soul eventually finds a way to follow Clark back to the mortal world, but not before Lionel can erase it's memory of Clark's secret and the location of the fortress.

[Slick]

My guess is that Clark will spend most of this episode in the afterlife, reuniting with deceased characters. One of whom is Jonathan Kent, others would include Jor-El, Lara and Lionel Luthor. They would spend most of the episode trying to get him to return to the mortal world. Before he finally leaves, they tell him how he can contact them again whenever he chooses.

Clark would pay many visits to the afterlife throughout the season. During one he would discover that Lionel is keeping Lex's weakened and dilapidated soul. The soul eventually finds a way to follow Clark back to the mortal world, but not before Lionel can erase it's memory of Clark's secret and the location of the fortress.
I could live with that if they chose too go that way.

[Rolf]

I could live with that if they chose too go that way.

It would certainly be better than some cliched explanation like "the Lex in the truck was a clone".

[Webhead2006]

rolf would be interesting, but if they were planning on more dead guys returning we probably would have heard about it now. But its a cool idea, But i dont see clark being dead for the whole episode myself.

[Webhead2006]

rolf would be interesting, but if they were planning on more dead guys returning we probably would have heard about it now. But its a cool idea, But i dont see clark being dead for the whole episode myself.

[BizarroAids]

I like that his dad is coming back for an appearance. But I just hope it's him, and not some sort of mind manipulation by someone else. If it is a "Clark dies and sees his dad in heaven" scenario, then yeah, that could be a great reuniting moment. Kinda like back in the comics when they met towards the end of the "Reign" series.

[Syncos]

Ahhh! The Black Lanterns are coming! :) Nekron Vs. Darkseid. Poor Darkseid, he doesn't have a chance. "DIE!" <Darkseid falls over dead>
Joking aside, I think the title will have half to do with Tess and half to do with Clark.
"Your destiny is far too great for this to be the end of your journey, son." Johnathan could say that to him.


Also, if the second appearance might be in the 200th episode, the 4th episode of the season, what is that episode going to be about? Besides Crowded?

This is a good guess. Considering Johnathan died in the 100th episode, it'd be a nice touch to have him appear in the 200th.

[BizarroAids]

This is a good guess. Considering Johnathan died in the 100th episode, it'd be a nice touch to have him appear in the 200th.

I still think that episode was the most gut wrenching of the series. It was done so well, you can't help but tear up.

Hopefully, we can get that type of over-emotional season premire for the 200th. Either way, I think it will be probably one of the best, being the 200th episode and the last premiere.

Sad to think of it that way.:csad:

[Syncos]

I still think that episode was the most gut wrenching of the series. It was done so well, you can't help but tear up.

Hopefully, we can get that type of over-emotional season premire for the 200th. Either way, I think it will be probably one of the best, being the 200th episode and the last premiere.

Sad to think of it that way.:csad:

The premier isn't the 200th episode. The speculation is that the other episode johnathan will be in will be the 200th. which (correct me if i'm wrong) is the 5th of the season....

[DavidB1111]

Yeah, I lost my dad in 2005, and I remember that episode well. :( I didn't cry though.

I hope he does come back for the 200th as well. Would be nice. I hope Johnathan says something along the line of "You cannot die now, Son, it's not your time. It will never really be your time." I want a hint to the fact that Superman won't die of natural causes, old age, whatnot, ever. He'll be alive when the last Yellow Sun dies. Around 2 trillion years or so.

[BizarroAids]

The premier isn't the 200th episode. The speculation is that the other episode johnathan will be in will be the 200th. which (correct me if i'm wrong) is the 5th of the season....

Ohh, I'm sorry man, I must have read what you were talking about wrong.

Aside from it being the premiere, I still stand by what I said. With him appearing twice, I'm sure he'll be brought up alot in the first 5. Well, unless it's Clark talking to Chole or Lois about him.

[Prison Mike]

The 200th episode will be episode four of season 10.

[Webhead2006]

yea for me its hard to pick do i want to see john s second episode be 200th episode, or held off to like the series finale. Hopefully they are used well.

[DavidB1111]

Hmm, I never though of the series finale. But that could work. "I'm proud of what you've become, son. So very proud." "Thanks, Dad."

[Binker]

Just so someone knows; an enemy from Clark's past will be factored into the story. Reported from Kryptonsite.

[SpideyStu2]

^ Hopefully that doesn't mean they're using Toyman again. I thought he was okay in his original episode but when they went back and reused him it felt flat. Not a fan of seeing Toyman again this season.

But there's a ton of enemies from Clark's past that they could pull from.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Personally, I think it would be awesome if Clark (and maybe Tess and Oliver) awake on Apokolips in the premiere.

Darkseid could have intentionally captured them and ressurected their bodies.

They could use a Boom Tube to get back to Earth.

It would be a nice dichotomy to the Kandorians ascending to heaven in "Salvation" whilst Clark descends to the hell of Apokolips in the S10 Premiere.

[Brainiac 8]

Just so someone knows; an enemy from Clark's past will be factored into the story. Reported from Kryptonsite.


Hmm...Metallo maybe?

[Prison Mike]

I'm disappointed that we haven't gotten many spoilers so far. This time last year, I think we already knew who was cast as Zod.

[Prison Mike]

Dr. Hamilton will return in this episode.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/

[The Incredible Hulk]

Dr. Hamilton will return in this episode.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/


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[Serene]

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Love it. I wish Dr. Hamilton had been more of a presence throughout the series. He's a really great character and perfectly played.

[Brainiac 8]

I really like the actor they have as Hamilton. With Chloe leaving the show as a regular, I would love for him to become one and end up as their contact at the Watchtower.

[Prison Mike]

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That was awesome. :woot:

[Webhead2006]

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[Webhead2006]

Yea i am surprised we havent heard much casting for granny goodness, darkseid, and any other minions to be used. But i guess they want to keep it all a surprised since it is the last season. Also cool news that john s role is pretty big for the episode. Cant wait to see what they do with him. Also great that hamilton will be back, hopefully he will show up throughout the season. Its cool too that the real farm location for kent farm will be used once again. Hopefully sunday at the panel we will get some more stuff for the episode.

[KalKai]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

UPDATED 7/25/10: Justin Hartley assumes his chest scar will be fixed because he is naked at some point early in the season. He also let it slip that a big part of his arc will involve Chloe, and that he will be "joining up," possibly with the Suicide Squad.
- The "villain from the past?" All interviews are pointing to it being a Lex clone. Brian Peterson tells us Lex "always has a back up plan."
- It sounds as though Allison Mack will be in the premiere as Chloe before leaving, though she will be back later in the season. A scene in the promo reel showed Chloe holding Doctor Fate's helmet.
- Lois says the word "Superman" in the preview reel.
- We DO see a costume, made up of the Brandon Routh suit. It is in the same box Martha left for Clark in the season finale.
- Stay tuned for more interviews and answers to your questions as webmaster Craig gets back to Burbank and starts transcribing.

[The Executioner]

Green Arrow part of the Suicide Squad?

[Man of Tomorrow]

I will bet you Ollie and Deadshot will be old friends.

[The Executioner]

Want an Ollie and Deadshot shootut.

[Sawyer]

I quite like that they're including Deadshot. I think he'd fit quite well into the show.

[LostSon88]

So I take it that Clark and Jonathan on the Kent farm will be a sort of afterlife kind of sequence?

Or in terms of the movie, 'Inception'...kind of like a limbo of sorts?

:cwink:

[Gold Samurai]

Yep Johnathan will say to Clark that his time to die isn't now and he has more to do

[LostSon88]

Didn't he do that already a few seasons back?

[Man of Tomorrow]

Yep Johnathan will say to Clark that his time to die isn't now and he has more to do

Like last time?


I'm not big on the 'afterlife' concept. I prefer if ghosts, heaven/hell, all that supernatural stuff and anything outside science stay out of Superman interpretations, but SV has definitely played them up over the years.

[Gold Samurai]

"You can't die now. There's a darkness coming...."

Basically something like that

[LostSon88]

PkrPCuprz4E

I really hope the Lazarus scene isn't a rehash of this one...

[Man of Tomorrow]

I thought that whole episode was ridiculous.

Flatlining so your soul could crossover into the afterlife and speak to your dead relatives.. :dry:


I guess they were looking for a Deus Ex Machina to pull off a Schnieder cameo.

[SpideyVille]

I thought that whole episode was ridiculous.

Flatlining so your soul could crossover into the afterlife and speak to your dead relatives.. :dry:


I guess they were looking for a Deus Ex Machina to pull off a Schnieder cameo.
They needed to give Clark a reason to stop pining over his dad's death and breakup with Lana so that he could finally move forward ... sadly, it took him 4 more seasons to finally do that.

[Man of Tomorrow]

So ultimately Void contributed nothing.

Even Jonathan's warning that Lionel is Satan didn't matter in the long run when they switched gears and made Lionel into Clark's new confidant...... even making Martha attracted to him.

[Gold Samurai]

So ultimately Void contributed nothing.


When we look back at the last 10 years we're going to see alot of episodes that don't matter

:oldrazz:

Like the majority or season 1-4 episodes about meteor freaks of the week LOL

[SpideyVille]

I want to see Henry Small again!

[Sawyer]

When we look back at the last 10 years we're going to see alot of episodes that don't matter

:oldrazz:

Like the majority or season 1-4 episodes about meteor freaks of the week LOL

Unlike the filler of the last five or so seasons, season 1-4 actually had something to offer. Looking back I'd be much more pleased with those years as a whole than I would be from season 6 on, which are like 2/3 useful stuff for the season-long arc, 1/3 just completely and utterly useless.

[Webhead2006]

the little peaks into episode one/2 were pretty cool. Cant wait to see how darkseid storyline plays out. Also the whole project cadmus/lex clones sounds like a fun plot. And a nice way to play around lex for most of the season while they try and get michael back.

[Johnny]

Unlike the filler of the last five or so seasons, season 1-4 actually had something to offer. Looking back I'd be much more pleased with those years as a whole than I would be from season 6 on, which are like 2/3 useful stuff for the season-long arc, 1/3 just completely and utterly useless.


The last few seasons were fillers? hahahahahaahahaha Go watch your teenage Clark/Lana bullcrap then.

[Sam Fisher]

Eh, the second half of S8 was terrible IMO.

[Prison Mike]

Half of every season has been filler while the other half has pertained to the season storyline. The filler episodes on Smallville have nothing to do with the overall plot unlike a show like Supernatural where their fillers usually tie into the overall arc in some form.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Half of every season has been filler while the other half has pertained to the season storyline. The filler episodes on Smallville have nothing to do with the overall plot unlike a show like Supernatural where their fillers usually tie into the overall arc in some form.


I love SN dont get me wrong, but that's not even close to being true. Hell, thye had an entire episode where they just went around calling everyone "douchebags" LOL

[Man of Tomorrow]

Eh, the second half of S8 was terrible IMO.

Agreed.

And I thought Toxic and Abyss were pretty weak too. More bad episodes in S8 than good.


Season 9, however, had more good than bad, but it did have some notable rotten ones in the second half.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Also the whole project cadmus/lex clones sounds like a fun plot. And a nice way to play around lex for most of the season while they try and get michael back.


I told you Lex would be cloned, during the many past debates on how the Lex character would return to this show.

It was the only way.

[Prison Mike]

I love SN dont get me wrong, but that's not even close to being true. Hell, thye had an entire episode where they just went around calling everyone "douchebags" LOL

I feel like the fillers in Supernatural progress the characters and move the storyline a little bit forward. More than Smallville anyway.

[Brainiac 8]

You guys need to remember that filler episodes are not always a bad thing. For example some of the best episodes of SG1 were filler episodes.

Filler in many cases can be used for a silly side story or filming idea that wouldn't fit in the main story. It can also flesh out a character's personality or heck even give them an excuse to do something neat and unnexpected.

It's one of the reason I love episodic television, it gives me a main story to follow while giving me one off episodes I can just pop in and enjoy any time.

[Man of Tomorrow]

So it sounds like Clark hits the pavement from the fall in "Salvation" and dies.

I guess this is how he meets Jonathan... in the "Void" afterlife again. This may mean Jonathan's scene is what kicks off the premiere.


Interesting how Jonathan is aware of Darkseid and "something dark coming" yet he completely misjudged Lionel in "Void."

[KalKai]

I'm not sure if that's it. Schneider still doesn't know if he's some ghost or spirit or something else. Peterson said he'll be appearing in 3 episodes, and from his tone it sounded like they could be more. Clark won't be dying all those times lol. Unless he appears to someone else as well.

[Sawyer]

Maybe the longer you're dead the more knowledge you gain about things. Void was only a few episodes after he died, maybe back then he was like "Kill that mother****a that gave me my heart attack!!!" But over the past five years, he's learned more.

[KalKai]

lol

:D

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm not sure if that's it. Schneider still doesn't know if he's some ghost or spirit or something else. Peterson said he'll be appearing in 3 episodes, and from his tone it sounded like they could be more. Clark won't be dying all those times lol. Unless he appears to someone else as well.

Three episodes?

Cool.

The barn scene looked incredibly ghosty though, like a trippy dream with Jonathan looking visibly older than when he died. They didn't try to make him look like his S5 self.


I'm not big on the "Void" ghostworld/afterlife deal, so I hope you're right.

[The Caped Knight]

I think they might resurrect Jonathan Kent who will bring Clark back to the living similar to The World without Superman storyline in the comics where Jonathan goes to the afterlife to bring his son back. Which might make the title of the episode make sense

[Man of Tomorrow]

Initially, I thought Darkseid would use the memories of Clark's dead loved ones to interact with him..

But then it wouldnt make sense for Darkseid to warn Clark about himself :dry:

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think they might resurrect Jonathan Kent who will bring Clark back to the living similar to The World without Superman storyline in the comics where Jonathan goes to the afterlife to bring his son back. Which might make the title of the episode make sense

How would Jonathan soul return to the corporeal world?

Jonathan's body is worm food.


Zombie Jonathan!?

[Sawyer]

Three episodes?

Cool.

The barn scene looked incredibly ghosty though, like a trippy dream with Jonathan looking visibly older than when he died. They didn't try to make him look like his S5 self.


I'm not big on the "Void" ghostworld/afterlife deal, so I hope you're right.

As I see it, the only concievable thing they could've done with his appearance was cut his hippie looking hair. His wardrobe looks fine and his face, yeah, looks older but what are you doing to do? Botox?

[Sam Fisher]

How would Jonathan soul return to the corporeal world?

Jonathan's body is worm food.


Zombie Jonathan!?Well, they could always adapt Darkest Night..oh wait:hehe:

[smooth3006]

I think they might resurrect Jonathan Kent who will bring Clark back to the living similar to The World without Superman storyline in the comics where Jonathan goes to the afterlife to bring his son back. Which might make the title of the episode make sense


i like this idea! :hehe:

[Man of Tomorrow]

As I see it, the only concievable thing they could've done with his appearance was cut his hippie looking hair. His wardrobe looks fine and his face, yeah, looks older but what are you doing to do? Botox?

Worked for Durance ... lol


I just meant the hair. I'm still hoping it's not a ghost... but then again Brian and Kelly said the ghosts of Clark's past will be this years theme. I think that will be literal and metaphorical.

[The Caped Knight]

Jonathan's body is worm food.




Hey it worked for Dean in Supernatual when he return from the dead in "Lazarus Rising,". He came back full whole .

[Man of Tomorrow]

Never watched a full episode of the show, but I guess that puts that "I'm a virgin again" scene for Dean in context.

[Sawyer]

Hey it worked for Dean in Supernatual when he return from the dead in "Lazarus Rising,". He came back full whole .

Dean was dead for four months. Jonathan's been dead for almost five years.

[DavidB1111]

Yeah, 5 years is enough to turn a body into almost fully a skeleton. So, it wouldn't be zombie Johnathan, it would be, Skeleton Johnathan. :)

Also, Botox? I think that's to make your face look younger...right? Johnathon doesn't need that.
Neither does Erica, so I'm confused...probably an obscure joke...

Also, don't you mean, Blackest Night, Sam Fisher?
The silly hopefully non-canon zombie plague upon the land series? Black Laterns? Nekron? (Why the hell is an aspect of God, evil incarnate? Nekron is an aspect of God!)

[Man of Tomorrow]

Neither does Erica, so I'm confused...probably an obscure joke...


It was a joke because she actually got work done.


She used to have obvious bags under her eyes and lines on her face, mainly around her mouth. She used to look a lot older.

Now they've been 'fixed' and she's got this plastic look. Looks younger. Botox :yay: Easy to spot but it's quite common in the business.

[DavidB1111]

If you say so. I'm always the last one to know these things.
And from what i know about Botox, not only is it easy to spot, it kind of looks off on old people, let alone young people...

So, it's hard to imagine she'd get something done like that. :(
And she really doesn't look plastic to me.
She may be the only Lois Lane with fake breasts.. (Great gift to give your husband that you later divorced, Erica).but Botox? I don't see it...

Maybe a before/after picture will help? Maybe you could PM me?
I'm a bit sad now...I mean, I'm always the last one to know.

Anything else to tell me, so I don't get surprised and embarrassed later?

[KalKai]

Guys, this isn't a spot the botox or a surgery thread, please.

I didn't quite like her look in Season 4, but she got gradually better. Now she's perfect with darker hair and all.

[SpideyVille]

I never liked Lois on the show until season 8 started. After that I started to appreciate her character more and I'm glad she's finally getting 22 episodes this season, even if she did have to outlive most of the other characters to get there. :hehe:

[Man of Tomorrow]

It's not just the hair, her face is clearly different. They tried to make her look younger. Maybe so Clark wouldn't look like he's dating a cougar.

But whatever, I don't mind the fake boobs either... it's just amusing how she keeps denying it when her nude scenes prior to the surgery are out there.

[DavidB1111]

Sorry, KalKal.
And uh, the other stuff, that was a gift she gave her boyfriend/husband, long before she was on Smallville. She was 19 at the time. She's 6, 7 years older than I am. I'm 27.
Anything further, let's discuss this via PM.

She looks good to me, then again, so does Allison Mack, and Cassidy Freeman and yes, let's discuss this episode, and her awesome discovery of the suit.
:)

<Presses the big shiny button that makes people go on-topic>

[The Caped Knight]

Back on topic

[DavidB1111]

Right, sorry again...

So, what crazy surprises do you all think are in store for us in Season 10's opening episode?

We saw Brainiac in the preview, unless I'm mistaken, and Lionel...so, where will they show up?
And they weren't looking like stock footage from earlier season either.

And I wonder how Lois is going to handle Clark's secret...I'm hoping for a joke...it seems Lois' style. Of course, being as she grew up on a military base, the joke she would use is probably one you can't put on Television at 8:00. :) "So, Clark, you're an alien, right?" "Yes." <Lois whispers indistinctly> "WHAT?! Lois!"

[The Caped Knight]

And I wonder how Lois is going to handle Clark's secret...I'm hoping for a joke...it seems Lois' style. Of course, being as she grew up on a military base, the joke she would use is probably one you can't put on Television at 8:00. :) "So, Clark, you're an alien, right?" "Yes." <Lois whispers indistinctly> "WHAT?! Lois!"

According to Erica,
Lois found out Clark's little secret in the season finale, but won't be sharing the news, even with him. "She decides not to tell him that she knows for a while,"

"She finds all these ways to hide it and make it easy for him to do what he's got to do to get away from her, so he can be that superhero and fulfill that destiny. But, in true Lois fashion, I'm sure she'll get tired of keeping secrets."
Source: Here (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Smallville-Spoilers-Comic-Con-1020944.aspx)

"Lois gets to see Clark's physical power for the first time in the season premiere."
Source: HERE (http://io9.com/5596679/)

[KalKai]

That was old footage. They're still in talks with Glover and they're about to start filming the 200th episode.

[JackMercy]

We saw Brainiac in the preview, unless I'm mistaken, and Lionel...so, where will they show up?
And they weren't looking like stock footage from earlier season either.


Just to clarify -- the shot of Lionel was indeed from a previous episode, and I believe the shot of Brainy was as well.

Marsters has already confirmed his slice of the pie, and Mr. Glover is in discussions to...

:word:

[Webhead2006]

sure some fillers are better then others. i agree season 8 there was alot of bad episodes mostly in the second half of the season with power/requiem(minus lex/toyman parts) and most of the remaining episodes. Were as season 9 i didnt hate out right any episodes and sure a few had a few wtf moments but the season was pretty consistant.

As for how johnathn is going to be playing in the premiere i say ghost/vision deal like in void. As for his other appearances hmm thats a toughy.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Just to clarify -- the shot of Lionel was indeed from a previous episode, and I believe the shot of Brainy was as well.

Marsters has already confirmed his slice of the pie, and Mr. Glover is in discussions to...

:word:


Same with the shot of Vanderlicious.

[The Caped Knight]

As for how johnathn is going to be playing in the premiere i say ghost/vision deal like in void. As for his other appearances hmm thats a toughy.

I don't think so look here I think Jonathan really does comes back from the dead. Because

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3985/screenshot20100726at313.png

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3985/screenshot20100726at313.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3985/screenshot20100726at313.png
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3985/screenshot20100726at313.png

He's seen fixing a Barn fence on the Kent farm . Now why would he be doing that in the afterlife ?

[Webhead2006]

well that shot to me looks dreamworld like void scene was, and he appeared to clark in the barn. he probably if the scene is a dream/vision just appearing to clark in a familar location to ease clark into chat.

[SpideyVille]

He's seen fixing a Barn fence on the Kent farm . Now why would he be doing that in the afterlife ?


Maybe he's got nothing better to do, you know with being dead and all.

[Jason20]

The only thing that really gets to me is he kept saying things like "coma" "Everyone thought I was dead." Over and over when he first came on stage. It seemed to me when I was watching the video of the panel that he was trying to hint at something.

[The Caped Knight]

well that shot to me looks dreamworld like void scene was, and he appeared to clark in the barn. he probably if the scene is a dream/vision just appearing to clark in a familar location to ease clark into chat.

Ok so explain why he's in his Flannel farmboy attire. In "Void" we saw Clark in the same outfit he was wearing (Blue and Red attire) .

Also I think this is more of afterlife scene http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6394/screenshot20100726at407.png

Because when he returns to life we see him healing and the rain is still present .
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8892/screenshot20100726at408.png

[Webhead2006]

well we will just have to see come sept 24th.

[DavidB1111]

Ah, okay...if those pictures were stock..I suppose. They just look completely different from any stock footage I saw.

Anyhow, Johnathan's coming back, probably as a spirit, probably not. Who knows.
So, how is the book of Rao not teleporting Clark away, I guess he's too close still to the blue K.

Also, uh, how does he hit the ground and not turn into a fine gory mess anyway? No powers + falling that high, well, good luck at not being in a big mess. Seriously, he'd end up like a watermelon dropped from 100 feet...

Lois found out Clark's little secret in the season finale, but won't be sharing the news, even with him. "She decides not to tell him that she knows for a while,"

"She finds all these ways to hide it and make it easy for him to do what he's got to do to get away from her, so he can be that superhero and fulfill that destiny. But, in true Lois fashion, I'm sure she'll get tired of keeping secrets."
Oh, :facepalm: Fine, let's hope it doesn't drag out too long. Grr! I'm disappointed in them for doing that...honestly, Lois is not Chloe in Season 4...even if they are cousins...I just don't see the deal with not letting Clark know soon...

Ugh...

[The Caped Knight]

Oh, :facepalm: Fine, let's hope it doesn't drag out too long. Grr! I'm disappointed in them for doing that...honestly, Lois is not Chloe in Season 4...even if they are cousins...I just don't see the deal with not letting Clark know soon...

Ugh...

You do realize that it was Lois who gave Chloe the advice in the first place. She just taking her own advice.

Season 4 "Pariah" Lois's advice to Chloe

Chloe: Lois, if -- if you found out something -- something someone didn't want you to know about them -- would you tell them?

Lois: That depends. Is that person someone you care about?

Chloe: Yeah.

Lois: And has keeping the secret hurt anyone?

Chloe: No.


Lois: Then my answer is no. If I really cared about that person, I wouldn't tell them that I knew. But I would go out of my way to be supportive of them so that hopefully, one day, they would be comfortable enough to tell me themselves.

Chloe: No offense, Lois, but that's the last thing I expected to hear from you.

Lois: I've learned the hard way that people keep secrets for a reason, even from the people they're closest to.

[MAN O STEEL]

I know this might sound dumb, but if there's one retcon on this show I could handle, one extremely stupid storyline I could swallow, it's bringing Jonathan Kent back to life for good. I miss Jonathan Kent like a mofo & something about not having him physically there to see his son become The Man Of Steel breaks my heart. One of my fav characters on Smallville that was delt an unfair blow.




Steve

[elgaz]

It's definitely an afterlife/void kind of scene.

It's not hugely apparent from the photos above, but if you watch the HQ trailer both the scene with Jonathan and the scene with battle-scarred Clark standing in the middle of a town have a translucent type of glow to them, as if they're not reality.

[Webhead2006]

with the whole book of rao thing, they never specifyied how close you have to be teleported. So i still say you just had to be within a few feet of the book/console for you to be teleported away. So i dont think there is going to be any problems there.

[SpideyVille]

Clark could always take the knife out and still hold it near and then take the Book of Rao out, but i honestly don't think it's even going to be an issue in the episode.

I think Clark dies and that's how he sees his father because I remember hearing JS say something about him telling Clark that he can't die yet, so I doubt he resurrects from the dead or something.

And it looks like Lois finds Clark body, so I'm wondering what happens after that. I hope it's not something like in SR where he gets taken to the hospital, especially since he's still wearing his Blur shirt.

[zerohour films]

Clark could always take the knife out and still hold it near and then take the Book of Rao out, but i honestly don't think it's even going to be an issue in the episode.

I think Clark dies and that's how he sees his father because I remember hearing JS say something about him telling Clark that he can't die yet, so I doubt he resurrects from the dead or something.

And it looks like Lois finds Clark body, so I'm wondering what happens after that. I hope it's not something like in SR where he gets taken to the hospital, especially since he's still wearing his Blur shirt.

It might turn out to where Clark experiences a longer time on the other side, but in the real world it's just a matter of seconds/minutes.

[The Caped Knight]

Tom Welling Interview at Digital Spy

AAhaRnREVU8

Tom reveals that Clark actually did die when he fell off the crows nest with the Blue Kryptonite dagger in him . And he's resurrected by someone very 'close and dear to him'. - I'm going to assume it's none other than Jonathan Kent.

I'm more than convinced now that this episode is going to be very similar to Adventures of Superman #500
http://www.digihelp.biz/oc1/ProdImages/DC/ADOS/ADOS500CS.jpg

[Gold Samurai]

You're not the only one

This guy has some suggestions


Remember too that they said Jon will be appearing in the premier and in another episode down the road which I'm guessing will be the series finale. Brian and Kelly also said in their status update that "Homecoming" will be filled with emotional character moments and epic as well.
I'm a bit disappointed with this. I would've rather they'd taken a page out of the Stargate book and gone the other direction.

The 100th episode was full of "emotional character moments" and "epic" and it was bloody awful.

I actually enjoyed the 100th episode...I'd actually term that good Smallville. I wonder what "Shield" is about unless Clark is getting recruited by Nick Fury.

Okay, you guys have gotten me to bite. You and Procutus who sent me a PM asking my predictions. I didn't think I was going to post this publicly, but what the hell. Just note this: this is a prediction, not a spoiler. Not an established fact. Just me taking the dots we have been given and connecting them. Here goes...

The season premiere will open where we left off. Clark falling powerless to his death with the blue-K dagger in his gut. He willingly sacrificed himself to save his people and the Earth at the same time. He's ready to die. His spirit separates from his body and starts to "go to the light".

And here is where they take a cue from Adventures of Superman #500...

As Clark ascends to the light, he is stopped by the spirit of Jonathan Kent. Jonathan tells Clark that it is not yet his time, that he has so much work left to do. Clark explains he is ready to die however, and he confesses to Pa what he did back in the 100th episode. That he changed time to save Lana, and fate balanced itself by taking Jonathan instead. That he wasn't really the one meant to die then. That he should still be alive. He confesses all the guilt and shame he's been carrying for making that choice these last five years.

Jonathan, always the good dad, forgives and absolves Clark's guilt for his choice. And then he gives Clark one of his patented fatherly motivational speeches. He inspires Clark to not give up on life, to go back to his body and live again. And Clark wakes up, likely caught while falling by J'onn J'onnz. He becomes a new man. His guilt is gone. And he retires that black Blur outfit he wore last season.

Only, the spirit of Jonathan now knows he was not supposed to die and so he also WILLS HIMSELF BACK TO LIFE. It will take a while though, just like it did for Superman back in the AoS#500 comic. His return will happen in Homecoming. Jonathan died in episode 100, he will return to life in episode 200. How? Well, it is a show based on a comic book. Does it really matter? Star Trek would do it with technobabble, for this show I will call it kryptobabble.

Anyway, upon his return you just KNOW that Martha will come running back to him in a heartbeat. So I expect that Annette O'Toole and Micheal McKean will also show up in Homecoming. We will see the reunion of the Kents, giving us the promised major emotional beats. Which will leave Perry White, Martha's current boyfriend, out in the cold. No girlfriend, the leads on the story he was working on dried up with last season's finale, he will have nothing left. Except to become the Daily Planet's new editor in chief, his homecoming as well. And Jonathan will likely join Martha in Washington as she continues her senatorial duties after the episode ends, or they'll head off on another honeymoon.

So that is what I have pieced together. We will see how close I am by mid-October. Which, coincidentally, will also see my 45th birthday.

Oh, and "Shield" likely either refers to Clark's S-shield or we will see the Guardian from comic book's Cadmus Labs.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm more than convinced now that this episode is going to be very similar to Adventures of Superman #500


I have all those comics but haven't read them in years.


Didn't the FOS and Eradicator take Clark's body from the burial site and heal the body over an extended period?

I remember he needed that regeneration suit to get back on track when he was finally revived.

[The Caped Knight]

I have all those comics but haven't read them in years.


Didn't the FOS and Eradicator take Clark's body from the burial site and heal the body over an extended period?

I remember he needed that regeneration suit to get back on track when he was finally revived.

Yes .

[Man of Tomorrow]

To the guy with the suggestions,

Clark never gave up on life in "Salvation." He was inspired by the dream he had and knowing his future destiny.

Even initially he didn't want to leave with the Kandorians, until Chloe started persuading him.

Clark already had the will to live and fulfill his destiny.

[The Caped Knight]

Jonathan Brings Clark back from the afterlife
http://dreamers.com/universodc/articulos/articulos/superman_olivares/5.jpg

[SrsBsns]

You're not the only one

This guy has some suggestions
That all sounds really cool but, Johnathan coming back for good? That's wayyy too much.

[DavidB1111]

What point in the trailer does Lois see Clark's body? I must have missed that.

And why does this show not realize that Clark's body would not be in one piece?
In fact, I don't think most of his bones would be intact. He should have more bony protrusions through his skin then Doomsday had. :)

They don't need to make him a gory mess, just find a way to explain the suddenly ceasing of the laws of physics governing sudden stops...

Is one season without major physics fail such a hard thing?

[elgaz]

Dude, name any TV show which obeys major physics. How many times do you see fights in TV shows yet there's no bruising, no cuts, no broken jaws or concussion?

Add to that the fact that you're watching a show about an alien who can shoot heat from his eyes - I think asking them to realistically depict the effects of a major fall on the body is a bit too much.

[Prison Mike]

There wouldn't be a Superman if physics was involved. Everyone he saved would have been dead.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm sure there will be a strong level of physics/versimilitude in the new movie, to make this unrealistic character as grounded as possible.

But, Smallville has never had that.

SV's physics have always been bizarre. My favorite was Lois jumping through the glass and 'Super Kicking' Bruno across the room in "Stiletto"

(at 1:40)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QArgBbR0i28

[DavidB1111]

Guys, I know that. It's just, you think they could try to make it not be so bloody obvious...:)
I'm tired of finding moments in this show that make me bang my head against the wall, at their utter stupidity.

I just want one season that doesn't have huge plot holes, and completely stupid physics lapses.
Is really that too much to ask? I love the show, and I'm willing to suspend disbelief towards Superman's stuff, but really, Smallville, work with something.
Can we just not have one season with the above issues? I love the show, I don't mind the fight related stupidity.

I think asking them to realistically depict the effects of a major fall on the body is a bit too much.
No, it is not. Too much would be asking them to bring on Superboy Prime to punch reality to explain their plotholes. :)

Or showing Clark on Smallville breaking the Light Barrier, showing realistically, Haha, Superman's Faster than Light ability.
FTL for the win.
I don't see the big deal with wanting consistency. I am not asking to be named the head Writer of the show. :)

[Prison Mike]

what does FTL stand for?

[DavidB1111]

Sorry, you caught me in an editing spree. :) Uh, FTL stands for Faster than Light.

It's referencing the fact that Superman can break the speed of light. I'm saying that I'm not asking for them to depict that in a realistic manor. :) Which they can't, for obvious reasons.

That would be asking too much. Heck, seeing him break the light barrier on Smallville may be too much. :( He's not really Superman until he can outrun lightning. Well, okay, Golden Age...

Regardless, I just would like it if the show actually had some smart moments in it. I suspend my disbelief enough, but I'm not going to stand for insulting the audience's intelligence. Which they have done a lot.
I'm bad at explaining things. It's my big problem.

[Brainiac 8]

Big Bang Theory had a wonder exposition about why you can't apply real physics to Superman. :funny:

[Sawyer]

Ugh, I hate that show.

[The Incredible Hulk]

what does FTL stand for?

For The Loss?

[Brainiac 8]

Ugh, I hate that show.


Meh, I get a kick out of it.

My only real complaint is that I loathe laugh tracks. But the nerd humor I enjoy very much. :p

[KBX]

Ugh, I hate that show.

Big Bang Theory > Smallville + Glee

Thats right I said it!

[Sawyer]

Big Bang Theory is a piece of **** on burnt toast.

[Prison Mike]

I enjoy Smallville, The Big Bang Theory, and Glee. There's enough of Prison Mike love to go around!

[Man of Tomorrow]

I enjoyed Series 1 of "Human Target" moreso than any season of Smallville.

It's shame both DC shows are going head to head against each other in the same timeslot this year.

That won't be good.

[SpideyVille]

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but just in case their's still argument about an possible flight in that DP globe scene, take a look at this:


According to the panel there’s a scene where he’s flying or leaping with the Daily Planet globe?
Kelly Souders: He’s doing his biggest leap ever. It’s pretty close to flying.




http://www.daemonstv.com/2010/07/28/kelly-souders-interview-smallville-comic-con-2010/

[The Caped Knight]

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but just in case their's still argument about an possible flight in that DP globe scene, take a look at this:




http://www.daemonstv.com/2010/07/28/kelly-souders-interview-smallville-comic-con-2010/

^ See I knew it .

[Man of Tomorrow]

It's still a leap and he's leaped to the roof of the Daily Planet before. It was another major tease.


Laura Vandervoort and Tom Welling already said by episode 3 "Supergirl," they're still trying to figure out why Clark can't fly.

[Zorex]

It's kind of weird to me that they keep dancing around the issue of "is Jonathon a ghost or not." It's like they don't know if he's a ghost or a vision during near-death experience or what. How odd.

Everything they're saying, though, has my nerdy heart all a-tizzy in excitement. I'm really digging that they're bringing in Darkseid slowly, and often representing him by his minions and other supporting New Gods characters. It is a change up from the way they've done villains in the past, and I think it could be really cool.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Calling that a "leap" is lame and non-sensical, especially since he's catching an object that weighs a ton and continues updward with it.

From a physics stand point, in order to maintain velocity with additional mass. he'd have to apply additional force, which would mean in simplest terms he'd have to be actively pushing the object. You can't do that with a simple jump, there'd have to be something behind him propelling him upward. A jump wouldn't do that, he'd simply catch the object which would then slow his upward prgoress, and then he'd begin to descend back down to the ground.

I can perhaps buy that Clark isnt sure how to consciously fly yet but just does so in moments of stress or something sort of like how his heat and x-ray vision and hearing powers came about. But to continue with this leap nonsense is getting a bit silly at this point.

[Webhead2006]

yea darn the whole flying/jumping thing. But hopefully he will be flying more by mid season. Also so cant wait for premeire to be here.

[zerohour films]

Maybe it was actually flight (just a theory of mine)----

In that instant with such a grave threat to the people below Clark instinctively jumps (which turns into flight) up and grabs/restores the globe.

Later when he attempts to fly again it doesn't work for him. Then he and Supergirl work on it/discuss it in Episode 3.

Just a theory, because out of all his jumps/leaps that looked the most like actual flight. Hence all of us debating it sooo much.

We shall see.

[Migu-EL]

One of my favorite moments on this show was when Clark was talking to Jonathan at the end of "Crusade" about how he flew as Kal-El and how excited Jonathan was that Clark could have the ability to fly.... Man... It seems like that was a lifetime ago.. :oldrazz:

[DCnightwing23]

Noo at the end of season 9 clark practically dies, because he couldnt fly, and therefore i can only assume since theyve done the first 2 episodes already with Jonathan kent on set that its through a vision that he see's his father and he trys to help clark. This coming from welling in a interview at comic con

[DavidB1111]

Calling that a "leap" is lame and non-sensical, especially since he's catching an object that weighs a ton and continues updward with it.

From a physics stand point, in order to maintain velocity with additional mass. he'd have to apply additional force, which would mean in simplest terms he'd have to be actively pushing the object. You can't do that with a simple jump, there'd have to be something behind him propelling him upward. A jump wouldn't do that, he'd simply catch the object which would then slow his upward prgoress, and then he'd begin to descend back down to the ground.

I can perhaps buy that Clark isnt sure how to consciously fly yet but just does so in moments of stress or something sort of like how his heat and x-ray vision and hearing powers came about. But to continue with this leap nonsense is getting a bit silly at this point.

Yeah, but if anything the last page in this thread proved you're not supposed to want accurate Physics on Smallville. :)

I would like him to freaking fly soon though. Don't know why they have to drag it out though.

[elgaz]

Well let's hope with each of these super leaps that Clark has been doing lately, he's progressing closer to actually flying.

After all, the Superman character originally started out with only being able to leap 'tall buildings with a single bound' ................. his power of flight only came along later down the line. Maybe Smallville is mirroring that progression.

[DavidB1111]

That would work, because they did borrow a few things from the Golden Age where he only leaped, mostly the Golden Age Superman's unnecessary roughness. :) The 9th season way Clark acted towards Tess and others was a Golden Age tribute.

Then again, GAS would have killed Tess long ago. You don't mess with Golden Age Superman.
People who say Superman never killed need to read the Golden Age stories. :)
He beat a mugger to death as Clark Kent. Apparently he was having a bad day.

[Prison Mike]

None of the past incarnations of Superman had accurate physics. Why should Smallville be any different?

[KalKai]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/110/1109506p2.html

As for Clark's specific storyline, Souders notes, "He comes out of the premiere with a pretty big twist, that sort of rocks his world and sends him in a different trajectory. I don't know that it's something that people are going to see coming. And I think that it's going to propel him out of the first episode with a very clear problem in his lap. He realizes that he's not the guy that everybody looks to when they think of Superman as an inspirational, totally pure hearted guy. That's not who Clark Kent is right now and that becomes very clear to him in the premiere." Peterson said Clark's final trajectory, "is very messy."

[The Incredible Hulk]

Noo at the end of season 9 clark practically dies, because he couldnt fly, and therefore i can only assume since theyve done the first 2 episodes already with Jonathan kent on set that its through a vision that he see's his father and he trys to help clark. This coming from welling in a interview at comic con

Uh Clark had none of his powers at the end of season 9 because he had a blue kryptonite blade jammed into his stomach.

[DavidB1111]

None of the past incarnations of Superman had accurate physics. Why should Smallville be any different?

That is why I now concede the physics complaints. You won't hear me complain anymore. :)

Plus, this is the same show that had Superman pull down a helicopter with a rope. :) I don't know really need to explain how that's funny.

And very messy? I hope they don't think we want Scanners. :)

[badboy00z]

IMO the blue k thing is silly. It's suppose to cancel out their powers only and not actually change their Kryptonian physiology.

[Prison Mike]

In this show, their powers make them Kryptonian. Without them, they're mortal beings just like us. Doesn't really make a lick of sense but that's Smallville for you...

[KalKai]

?

Are Kryptonians supposed to be something else without the powers that the sun grants them other than mere mortal beings?

[thechase]

Maybe Lazarus will have the long awaited appearance of Bruce Wayne as a old school Batman against a Ras Al Ghul

[Spider-Gamer]

Maybe Lazarus will have the long awaited appearance of Bruce Wayne as a old school Batman against a Ras Al Ghul

Not happening. Keep dreaming. :yay:

[Prison Mike]

?

Are Kryptonians supposed to be something else without the powers that the sun grants them other than mere mortal beings?

well it seems that without their powers, they have the same human DNA. Like their physiology changes. I'm sure in the comics, if Superman lost his powers he'd still be an alien...right? Or are Kryptonians just like humans but with powers?

[KalKai]

He'd still be an alien as in he'd still wouldn't be earth born yes lol.

There is nothing that differs Kryptonians from Humans except for this:

Inhabitants of the fictional planet Krypton appear to resemble humans (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Humans), but their biology (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Biology) is much more complex. According to the DC Comics canon, the cellular structure of Kryptonians allows for solar energy (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Solar_energy) to be absorbed at extremely high levels when exposed to a yellow star (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Yellow_star) like Earth (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Earth)'s Sun (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Sun), giving them vast superhuman powers (such as flight, strength, x-ray vision, super speed, invulnerability, heat vision and superhearing) when on planets such as Earth.

Kryptonians were not known to possess any superpowers as Krypton revolved around a red star (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Red_dwarf). However, when in the vicinity of a yellow star, such as the Sun (http://forums.superherohype.com/wiki/Sun), Kryptonians utilize solar energy on the cellular level to achieve abilities unattainable by ordinary human beings.

[Prison Mike]

But Kryptonians do have a different physiology than humans, right? For example, are the organs in a Kryptonian the same as a human?

[KalKai]

It was never stated otherwise as far as I know. But even if some organs were different, they'd still be like normal human beings.

[Prison Mike]

Hmm. well thanks for the explanation.

[Poetic Chaos]

I'm sure this has already been discussed but wouldn't Clark's body hitting the ground from that height pretty much explode? With the blue knife in him his body would be like any other human body falling from that height. Explode might be an exaggeration but his bones would be pretty demolished. I don't see how simply pulling the knife out could fix that kind of structural damage. And with the clip of Lois next to his body, it doesn't look like he's going to be caught midair...

Skeptical hippo is skeptical.

[KalKai]

I'm sure this has already been discussed but wouldn't Clark's body hitting the ground from that height pretty much explode? With the blue knife in him his body would be like any other human body falling from that height. Explode might be an exaggeration but his bones would be pretty demolished. I don't see how simply pulling the knife out could fix that kind of structural damage. And with the clip of Lois next to his body, it doesn't look like he's going to be caught midair...

Skeptical hippo is skeptical.

That happens all the time in real life doesn't it.. people accidentally falling from high heights and having their bodies explode upon impacting the ground..

No that only happens when they shoot you with a bazooka or throw a grenade at you. :hehe:

Clark is dead, so it's irrelevant if his internal organs or bone structure were severly damaged.

[Poetic Chaos]

True, I guess we'll see what their actual plan is to revive him. Hopefully it's more than simply removing the knife.

[KalKai]

I'm guessing you didn't see this:

AAhaRnREVU8

[Prison Mike]

I guess Jor-El revives him?

[DavidB1111]

I took that interview to mean somehow Johnathan Kent talks him back into life, like after the Death of Superman arc in the comics.

Jor-El can't, because the fortress is dead at the moment, due to what Zod did to it.

And yes, humans don't explode from high falls, they just tend to make a mess. :)
Surprisingly, people in real life have survived greater danger than falling 30 stories.

I'm certain however they revive him it's going to be something that actually makes sense according to a comic storyline. Death of Superman or not.
How many times has Superman died in the comics since Doomsday?

[Prison Mike]

Jonathan may talk Clark into wanting to live again and continue his mission but I don't see how he can revive him physically. Like everyone said, he's dead. The only one who has done it before was Jor-El back in season 5.

[DavidB1111]

Uh, the Death of Superman arc, if they truly base this on it, well, Clark came back from the dead, on his own. With help from Johnathan Kent. :)

Like I said, they can't do Jor-El, because he's not functioning at the moment.

Yeah, Clark comes back from the dead on his own sheer will, with help from Johnathan Kent. That's the only way that they can do it.
Hey, at least it's in comics canon... that Superman can bring himself back, however difficult it may be.
Also, he did battle demons I think, Literally, to come back...I'll have to go look it up to make sure.

You can kill Superman, yeah, but there's one thing Doomsday and Superman in the comics have in common. They don't stay dead for long.

[KalKai]

He's pretty much immortal then.

Clark was told that he'll get to live forever, and even before that, he saw himself outliving everyone he's close to.

[Prison Mike]

yeah he's basically immortal then if he can come back whenever he wants to.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

IMO the blue k thing is silly. It's suppose to cancel out their powers only and not actually change their Kryptonian physiology.
Just be glad they didn't use Pink Kryptonite. :cwink:

[SpideyVille]

Blue Kryptonite basically just cancels out the effect that the Yellow Sun has on Kryptonians, so it's almost like they are back on their planet, where they are mortals over there. It like we saw with Dax-Ur in season 7, he wore Blue Kryptonite as a watch and he ended up aging and losing his hair and stuff because he was just like a regular human.

As for why Clark isn't splat after hitting the ground, even with the dagger still in him ... you got me. I just hope that he doesn't hit the ground like that because Kryptonian on not, your body doesn't hit the ground without having some kind of an impact, unless he defied gravity before falling.

[Jason20]

They need to use the Chrysalis from the comics, they used it to revive him after his fight with Doomsday, and then Conner recently in Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds.

http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/97/40/51/chrysa10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=612&u=13974051)
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[DavidB1111]

Er, Spidey, when I complained about the potential lack of damage from the fall, I got griped/yelled at :(

Clark was told that he'll get to live forever, and even before that, he saw himself outliving everyone he's close to. Yeah. I could be mangling it up a bit, but, the thing about Superman is, well, after the Sun explodes in 5 billion years, he'll still be around.
:)

If white dwarfs can act like a weaker source of solar energy than our yellow sun to Superman, well, Supeman would last until the Entropic heat death of the universe. :)
100 trillion years from now.

Just be glad they didn't use Pink Kryptonite. :cwink: Yeah, let's not give Clark or Zod Pink Kryptonite. :)
"Why, did I ever tell you how smashing you look in that bowtie, Jimmy?" "Uh, Thanks, Superman."

Well, if you really want to mess him up, give Clark Pink and Red.
And for those who don't know, Pink Kryptonite makes him gay.

Uh, I thought Johnathan Kent helped Clark come back to life, and whatnot, after Doomsday killed him. I guess he wasn't in peak condition, so he had to go into the chrysalis.

I know Superman/Doomsday the movie skipped over and changed a few things around.
"Your heart beat once ever 18 days." "The laws of mortal Death do not apply to you."

[Prison Mike]

With the Kandorians leaving Earth at the end of Salvation, is it possible that whatever destruction happened to the FOS would reverse itself? If so, then Jor-El could get back online and revive Clark. I still don't see how he could will himself to live if his bones are smashed and skull is cracked open.

[SpideyVille]

Refresh my memory, what happened to the Fortress this time? It seems like every season the Fortress has gotten destroyed or hacked. Maybe Clark should invest in a home security system. :hehe:

[Jason20]

Zod destroyed the console so Clark couldnt talk with Jor-El

[SpitCurl]

That place is neither fortified, nor a good provider of solitude.

[SpideyVille]

It's funny because Clark's loft was his original "Fortress of Solitude", and it was even easier for people to sneak up and surprise him there too.

I think Kara might have something to do with restoring the Fortress. Maybe she'll know how to reverse what Zod did to it.

[Jason20]

As far as I know in the comics the Sunstone Crystals that the Fortress is made up of are self repairing, so there really shouldnt be a need of Kara to repair it, unless the producers dont want to explore this feature of the Fortress. Though I do admit that they need to have Clark set up some kind of protection up for the Fortress at some point, I mean they've had Braianiac, Lex, the Zoner, Doomsday, Metallo, and now Zod break into it.

[SpideyVille]

I always thought Kevin Spacey's line in SR was both hilarious and true. "Didn't your father ever teach you to lock before you leave!"

The only person who's had worse security problems in SV has been Lex, despite his expensive security team at the mansion.

[DavidB1111]

With the Kandorians leaving Earth at the end of Salvation, is it possible that whatever destruction happened to the FOS would reverse itself? If so, then Jor-El could get back online and revive Clark. I still don't see how he could will himself to live if his bones are smashed and skull is cracked open.Well, Prison Mike, this is Superman we're talking about here.
Superman would come back from the dead regardless of what you do to him.

I mean, yeah, Clark's smashed into paste, probably, but you can't keep Superman dead for long. Period.
Besides, as I've stated, he'll be around until the Entropic heat death of the universe, more than likely. 100 trillion years from now. :)
A little thing like dying isn't going to slow him down for very long. Did you know Superman can become immune to Kryptonite? :) 100 years in the sun, and he'd laugh at Metallo.

He's coming back, and the Fortress will have nothing to do with it. It's going to be Johnathan.
Why bring him back otherwise?

And nothing can magically repair the fortress on Smallville. Unless Zatanna shows up there and reverses time! I don't think she has mastery of time magic on Smallville. :)

[Prison Mike]

Clark would still be dead if Jor-El hadn't intervened back in season 5. He didn't exactly come back on his own...

[Gold Samurai]

I always thought Kevin Spacey's line in SR was both hilarious and true. "Didn't your father ever teach you to lock before you leave!"

The only person who's had worse security problems in SV has been Lex, despite his expensive security team at the mansion.

It's just become a running gag now. That's how sad it is.

If someone breaks into a house on TV we'll say they had Lex security.

[Prison Mike]

It's just become a running gag now. That's how sad it is.

If someone breaks into a house on TV we'll say they had Lex security.

Tess inherited his security. :hehe:

[Syncos]

Jonathan may talk Clark into wanting to live again and continue his mission but I don't see how he can revive him physically. Like everyone said, he's dead. The only one who has done it before was Jor-El back in season 5.

Actually, also in season five, Clark dies by getting a needle of kryptonite injected into his heart. Then he saw Johnathan, who told him it wasn't his time, and to go back, and then he kick started himself back to life.

:awesome:

[DavidB1111]

Yeah, but Superman also grows in power as he ages, and is exposed to more yellow sun energy.
:)

And yeah, Season 5 also had Clark come back from the dead on his own.
As I've said, Johnathan is the only one capable of getting Clark to self resurrect at the moment.
Hey, we'll know in less than 2 months. :)

Jor-El is destroyed at the moment. Sorry to say, Jor-El can't do anything when he's destroyed.
I can't talk to people or interact with them if someone cut off my head, and that's pretty much what happened to Jor-El.

[Migu-EL]

Refresh my memory, what happened to the Fortress this time? It seems like every season the Fortress has gotten destroyed or hacked. Maybe Clark should invest in a home security system. :hehe:

Yeah.. Where are those damn polar bears when u need em!!! :doh: LOL

[The Caped Knight]

Interview: John Schneider Explains Jonathan Kent’s Return To ‘Smallville’ (http://theflickcast.com/2010/08/04/interview-john-schneider-explains-jonathan-kents-return-to-smallville/)

[Webhead2006]

cant wait for sept 24th to get here. i hope this premeire is very good.

[Superfreak]

any idea as to who is going to catch clark? MMH, HM, or kara? any other's that can catch clark?

[KalKai]

any idea as to who is going to catch clark? MMH, HM, or kara? any other's that can catch clark?

Nobody is catching Clark. He dies.

[DavidB1111]

"Clark was looking good until he killed his own dumb self." To quote Unreal Tournament. (The original) :)

But yeah, I look forward to this episode. I mean, Johnathan is coming back for a bit.
I think Season 10 is shaping up to be a very good season.

[Hobodeluxe]

I'm thinking that Dr.Fate gets resurrected through Chloe. And that maybe she plays a part in Clark's return. AFAIK Allison Mack is in the premiere and then gone for a while. She's supposed to return for an episode or two towards the end too.
And in that preview thing we see her pick up Fate's helm. Rumors are that Tess takes over the Watchtower role in Chloe's absence. Marsters is coming back but as the semi good guy Brainiac 5.
Darkseid ,Lex's clone and Clark in his suit. Can't wait.

[Jason20]

I really hate the idea of Chloe becoming Dr Fate, and I really don't know why people would like to see her as Dr Fate. Sure she picks up the helmet and then disapears, that doesnt have to mean that she becomes Dr. Fate, it could be that the helmet takes her to the one that is destined to wear it next. I believe they did the same with Detective Chimp in the comics during the event 52.

Chloe shouldnt play a part in Clarks return to life. It should be that they place him in the Chrysallis is in the Fortress like it was used in the comics after he fought Doomsday, it's been used to not only bring him back to life but also Superboy.

I'll admit that Smallville has taken some liberties when it comes to giving people powers and creating its own heroes. They made the Angel of Vengence, who in the comics is a completely different character. They have given Lana powers, and I'm okay with this because in the comics Lana has had powers before, hell she was the Insect Queen, an enemy of the Superman Family more than once.
http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/97/40/51/insect10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=688&u=13974051)
Jimmy has had powers before, he had the ability to stretch, and yeah they didnt have him with powers as far as I can remember on the show, they gave it to Pete and I was okay with that. But for them to make Chloe the next Dr Fate, would just be wrong. I dont say this because I dont like her, and yes I very much dislike her character, but because there are others from the comics that should be the actual character from the comics like Inza Nelson, Hector Hall, or Kent V Nelson.
http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/97/40/51/doctor11.png (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=690&u=13974051)http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/97/40/51/doctor12.png (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=691&u=13974051)http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/13/97/40/51/doctor13.png (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=692&u=13974051)

[The Caped Knight]

What more can you tell me about the Smallville premiere? — Allen
ADAM: I can tell you that it ends with a twist that executive producer Kelly Souders says "rocks [Clark's] world and sends him on a different trajectory. ... He realizes that he's not the guy that everybody looks to when they think of Superman, an inspirational totally pure-hearted guy. That's not who Clark Kent is right now, and that becomes very clear to him."

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Greys-1022165.aspx

[Sawyer]

More Clark angst. Fun! :dry:

[DavidB1111]

I agree with you fully, Jason20. Chloe should be Chloe.
That and well, the Spectre exists in Smallville. So, at least we have someone more powerful than Dr. Fate around to keep her in check.

ADAM: I can tell you that it ends with a twist that executive producer Kelly Souders says "rocks [Clark's] world and sends him on a different trajectory. ... He realizes that he's not the guy that everybody looks to when they think of Superman, an inspirational totally pure-hearted guy. That's not who Clark Kent is right now, and that becomes very clear to him."Uh..there's no way he can know what people look to when they think of Superman. He's Clark Kent, he hasn't been revealed as Superman yet.
That quote makes no sense. Unless the quote means that Clark realizes that people don't like him, and I think he already knows that.

An Inspirational Pure-hearted man? Even Superman in the comics isn't totally without flaws. :) Some of which the general public knows.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I always thought Kevin Spacey's line in SR was both hilarious and true. "Didn't your father ever teach you to lock before you leave!"

The only person who's had worse security problems in SV has been Lex, despite his expensive security team at the mansion.
Actually, he said "Didn't your dad ever teach you to LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP"

Just sayin :oldrazz:

[Prison Mike]

I hope by the end of the episode, Clark realizes that branding his shield everywhere (using heat vision) causes a lot of property damage.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Has anything been confirmed as to what episode we might start to see a change in his costume? I would think that it would something gradual and would progress as the season continues.

[Prison Mike]

I think somebody here said that he'd have a t-shirt change in Shield, which is the second episode of the season.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I think somebody here said that he'd have a t-shirt change in Shield, which is the second episode of the season.
I wonder how long he will keep the black trench coat? All I know is that I CANNOT freaking wait for the season to start. It's getting to be an exciting time of year...Football is back and Smallville is less than a month away. :woot:

[SpideyVille]

I hope by the end of the episode, Clark realizes that branding his shield everywhere (using heat vision) causes a lot of property damage.

Has he still been doing that? I don't think we've seen him do it since Upgrade, and even then he was on Red K and was deliberately doing it to send a message to Chloe. I don't remember him doing it in Hostage after he caught that sign in front of everyone.

[John Locke]

Well that was because everyone saw him do it. The other times no one saw him.

[RagingTempest]

What more can you tell me about the Smallville premiere? — Allen
ADAM: I can tell you that it ends with a twist that executive producer Kelly Souders says "rocks [Clark's] world and sends him on a different trajectory. ... He realizes that he's not the guy that everybody looks to when they think of Superman, an inspirational totally pure-hearted guy. That's not who Clark Kent is right now, and that becomes very clear to him."

Well, maybe it means Clark will take a more Superman-like approach to his Blur duties instead of buring his "S" symbol across the city and being such an aggressive hero like he was last season.

[elgaz]

I think it's more a case of everyone's perception of the Blur. No-one knows who he is; he's someone who fights crime (mostly at night from what I've seen so far) and is superpowered, but no-one knows his face or anything about him. As far as the public knows, he's nothing more than a vigilante. Some people could even be scared of him.

Perhaps Clark realises that it's time for a face to be put to the name and for him to inspire people by actually interacting with them rather than simply tying up criminals night after night.

[Jason20]

I think thats more than likely what happens. Right now he's acting more like Batman, hiding in the shadows, not showing his face, just his symbol. While most of Metropolis will see what he's doing as good and the right thing, most will just see him as someone that is breaking the law, bu taking the law into their own hands. That isn't Superman. There's a line from Superman Birthright that I love because it explains so clearly why Clark wears the disguise instead of just wearing a mask to hide his face. The line happens when Martha is making the suit. Martha says "I dont understand. You want the suit to have a mask?" And Clark replies "Can't. There's the problem. If I want people to trust me, they'll have to be able to see my face."

We know Jonathon Kent is coming back in this episode. To me Jonathon is the one that makes Clark realize that he doesnt completely have the people's trust. I can just see Jonathon saying something to Clark like. "You're doing a wonderful job keeping the world safe son. But protecting them from the shadows, hiding who you are is only going to earn you their mistrust. If you want them to see you as a symbol to look up to, a symbol of all that is good about life, you have to show them who you are."

But hey thats just me.

[The Caped Knight]

I think thats more than likely what happens. Right now he's acting more like Batman, hiding in the shadows, not showing his face, just his symbol. While most of Metropolis will see what he's doing as good and the right thing, most will just see him as someone that is breaking the law, bu taking the law into their own hands. That isn't Superman. There's a line from Superman Birthright that I love because it explains so clearly why Clark wears the disguise instead of just wearing a mask to hide his face. The line happens when Martha is making the suit. Martha says "I dont understand. You want the suit to have a mask?" And Clark replies "Can't. There's the problem. If I want people to trust me, they'll have to be able to see my face."

We know Jonathon Kent is coming back in this episode. To me Jonathon is the one that makes Clark realize that he doesnt completely have the people's trust. I can just see Jonathon saying something to Clark like. "You're doing a wonderful job keeping the world safe son. But protecting them from the shadows, hiding who you are is only going to earn you their mistrust. If you want them to see you as a symbol to look up to, a symbol of all that is good about life, you have to show them who you are."

But hey thats just me.

My thoughts exactly

[DavidB1111]

I like that idea, Jason20.
He needs to reveal himself in a way.

[KalKai]

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