Star Wars 2.0

[Darkness Falls]

I though he was violently murdered by Palpatine and Vader before ANH started.

sadly thats only wishful thinking :csad:

[Grillz]

There needs to be an episode 3.5 with that scene.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I've seen a fan edit of Jar Jar dieing on Alderaan when the Death Star blew it up.

[Marx]

This is as close as we'll ever get to seeing Jar Jar Binks die.

2xYDC3t7sss

[Darkness Falls]

thank you Marx you made my day with that :D

[Grillz]

It needs to be done on the big screen. If they can put Hayden in ROTJ they can digitally remaster Darth Vader's entrance in ANH with Jar Jr at his throat. If Lucas did something like this I would have respect for the man forever... until he makes Star Wars: Episodes .1-.3

[roach]

why would he do that???
cause you hate the character??
the last prequel came out in 2005...its 2010. I think the term limits of complaining about Jar Jar is past.
Hey lets complain about Michael Keaton being cast as Batman or The Incredible Hulk on tv only fighting low budget thugs. Lets complain about New Coke.
At what point are you just going to let it go. Im sorry to go all mental but I am just tired of hearing about it in this thread all the time.

[Grillz]

And abother thing, Sam Rami for Spider-Man? Please! He should'nt be near any comic book films! Batman Begins? I think Batman & Robin killed the franchise, they shouldnt do a reboot, just leave it alone! :oldrazz: Anyway, some people ( including myself and Lucas and just about everyone out there) have a sense of humor and need to lighten up "dark" films. But do I hate Jar Jar? Yes, he is just wrong for Star Wars, I know what Lucas was trying to do, but no. Jar Jar is like that kid from 13 Ghost of Scooby Doo, just makes you roll your eyes and want to kill a not so beloved character.

[Erzengel]

RIP Irvin Kirshner :csad:

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101129/ennew_afp/entertainmentfranceusfilmdirector)

[Yodaman]

:csad::csad::csad::csad::csad:

[Bim]

OMG :csad:

[TheDreamMaster]

Oh no :csad:

[Marx]

why would he do that???
cause you hate the character??
the last prequel came out in 2005...its 2010. I think the term limits of complaining about Jar Jar is past.
Hey lets complain about Michael Keaton being cast as Batman or The Incredible Hulk on tv only fighting low budget thugs. Lets complain about New Coke.
At what point are you just going to let it go. Im sorry to go all mental but I am just tired of hearing about it in this thread all the time.

There are no 'term limits' on something like that.

RIP Irvin Kirshner :csad:

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101129/ennew_afp/entertainmentfranceusfilmdirector)

I just heard the news. :csad:

[Obi-Ron]

I thought I saw Kersh's ghost on the way to work - turns out, it was just Hayden Christensen.

[danoyse]

First Leslie Nielson, now this? :csad:

[A Necessary Evil]

RIP Irvin Kirshner :csad:

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101129/ennew_afp/entertainmentfranceusfilmdirector)

:csad::csad::csad::csad::cmad::cmad:

He directed the best one..may the force be with you Irvin.:hrt:

[redhawk23]

RIP Irvin Kirshner, and thank you for your contribution to my childhood, ESB is litterally my favorite movie of all time, and though its not great by any means, I've watched Robocop2 an almost illegal number of times. You will be missed and fondly remembered.

[bullets]

I'm another Robocop 2 fan :up: Thanks Kirshner and R.I.P.

[Crockett]

R.I.P. Irvin, ESB is truly remarkable movie and always be one of my favorite.

[roach]

RIP Irvin....death travels in threes...im afraid to see who is next

[venom892]

First Leslie Nielson, now this? :csad:Ny thoughts exactly.A lot my childhood has died these past two days.

[Darkness Falls]

very sad news indeed :(
empire strikes back always has a special place in my heart because it introduced me to boba fett

[FCEEVIPER]

R.I.P. Irvin, ESB is truly remarkable movie and always be one of my favorite.
Amen.

RIP.

[ALP]

*GASP*

At least he enjoyed a long life with good movies. RIP Irvin Kirshner, thanks for everything especially ESB :up:

[Homer J. Fong]

Wow, first Leslie Nielsen, then Irvin Kershner. I wish I was morefamiliar with Kershner's films, but I haven't seen any of his pre-Empire work, just Empire, Never Say Never Again, and RoboCop 2. This is very sad news. R.I.P.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Damn, Kershner cemented Vader as a badass. :(

[craigdbfan]

This can't be for real. ****!

He apparently passed away on the 27th. How the **** did I not hear about this.

This is terrible news. This really messed up my day.

[Doctor Jones]

I really couldn't believe it. First Leslie Nielson now this. Empire Strikes Back is my favorite Star Wars film and I consider it to be the greatest sequel ever made. He really just cemented what was already great about Star Wars and put it into hyperspace.

[Raiden]

RIP Kershner. Thanks for giving us ESB, the greatest Star Wars film in the franchise.

[Sam Fisher]

RIP Irvin Kirshner :csad:

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101129/ennew_afp/entertainmentfranceusfilmdirector)Oh noes:csad::csad::csad::csad::csad::csad::csad:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Kershner's one with the Force now.

[DCW]

"I can't believe he's gone." :csad:

[8wid]

Thank you Irvin Kirshner for showing us that Star Wars can be a hell of a lot better than George Lucas's directing! :boba:

[Bim]

Has Lucas ever actually given a reason for it? The Hayden Christensen addition at the end of ROTJ just confuses me...but Jar Jar Binks yelling 'WESA FREEEEEE!!!!!!' during the ending celebration just ticks me off!
From what i understand of the reasoning behind it, last time Anakin was Anakin was in ROTS, so that`s why Hayden shows up. Let`s say that when Vader was born Anakin "froze"... that`s how i understand it anyways :hehe:.

Overall, the changes on the SE dont bother me. I just wish they would polish up some of the lightsaber effects for a future saga boxset though, cause some dont look as sharp as they could.

Who said that was Jar Jar screaming though? that`s a gungan yes, but Jar Jar? i dont think so.

ALP: that picture made me laugh, good one LOL.

[Marx]

From what i understand of the reasoning behind it, last time Anakin was Anakin was in ROTS, so that`s why Hayden shows up. Let`s say that when Vader was born Anakin "froze"... that`s how i understand it anyways :hehe:.

That's a bit of a stretch. When he betrayed Palpatine, he became Anakin again.

Overall, the changes on the SE dont bother me. I just wish they would polish up some of the lightsaber effects for a future saga boxset though, cause some dont look as sharp as they could.

Who said that was Jar Jar screaming though? that`s a gungan yes, but Jar Jar? i dont think so.

Overall, I do like the special editions. Everything is alot clearer.

As far as the 'WESA FREEEEE' gungan goes, it sounds a heck of a lot like Jar Jar. If they didn't want comparisons to be made they should have used a deeper voice.

[Bim]

That's a bit of a stretch. When he betrayed Palpatine, he became Anakin again.
I know that`s pushing it and i don't even know if my way of thinking is right :hehe:, but that`s how it makes sense inside my head until someone can give me a better reason. Yes, he became Anakin again, but even though his body had aged his spirit was young... don't try and make me think of this, u`ll mess me up! :huh: :oldrazz:

I think making it sound like Jar Jar was Lucas`s way of sticking his tongue out at all of the people who hated the character and try to get them to lighten up.

[Erzengel]

I purchased this the other day but it's apropos seeing as Kirshner let Ford ad lib this scene.

http://shop.starwars.com/kernel/imageload?table=cat_images;ttl2=15;key1=1325354_im g1;key2=-100_img1

[superman-mos]

Uhhhhh...ok I love Star Wars and Han Solo is the coolest cat to ever live in any far off galaxy. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything but if Lucas ever remade the original triology(not saying he should) I gotta say Ryan Gosling is Han material jus check the link and see for yourself.It jus screams Han to me ....jus an opinon with all the crazy ass remakes going on(although a remake would help the two trilogies mesh better)

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2483436/ryan-gosling-drive-christina-hendricks-13/

[GhostPoet]

Joe Flanigan for Han Solo!!

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

The Star Wars movies should never be remade; even the bad ones. The potential for so many other stories is so large that a remake would be a waste of time.

[superman-mos]

Again not saying they should I jus thought that pic reminded of Han and thet Gosling was a good choice if it were to happen thats all

[Erzengel]

I understand what you are saying, but there are few roles that are iconic and I don't want to see anyone else in there. Vito & Michael Corleone, Atticus Finch, Han Solo.

[Marx]

The Star Wars Saga will never be remade.

[DCW]

From what i understand of the reasoning behind it, last time Anakin was Anakin was in ROTS, so that`s why Hayden shows up. Let`s say that when Vader was born Anakin "froze"... that`s how i understand it anyways :hehe:.

Overall, the changes on the SE dont bother me. I just wish they would polish up some of the lightsaber effects for a future saga boxset though, cause some dont look as sharp as they could.

Who said that was Jar Jar screaming though? that`s a gungan yes, but Jar Jar? i dont think so.

I’m pretty sure that it’s just a random gungan yelling at the end of Jedi.

I’m all for the special editions but one change that I’m on the fence about it Anakin’s ghost. I think from a viewer’s point of view it’s nice to see Hayden again, but I think from a story point of view the older force ghost makes more sense. Anakin and Vader are the same person, that’s why I like the character so much because it’s about the redemption of a flawed character. It is Vader throwing Palpatine down that shaft to his doom, but it is also Anakin. I enjoy both versions anyway, but would like Hayden’s force ghost to be cleaned up a little in one of the next releases.

But there have literally been pages and pages of debate written over this subject with some really in depth stuff on it.

[DCW]

While I was thinking about that, I was curious what are some changes that you'd like to be switched back? I know that the chances are extremely slim of it happening, but I'm just curious. For me:

- Vader's "Bring my shuttle" line.
- Luke's "You must not taste very good" line.
- Just fix Jabba's ANH scene, I like it, just visually fix Jabba.
- Han shoots first. (Hate to say it!)

And possibly:

- Anakin's force ghost.

The goods of the special editions outweight the bads for me though:

- Emperors replacement in ESB.
- Ending sequence of RotJ.
- Boba's voice.

Are just some examples of changes I love.

[Marx]

I'm still not a fan of Greedo shooting first.

[Doctor Jones]

The only things need fixing is the goddamn lightsaber effects. Especially the green color it had when Luke was trying to block the laser blasts from the ball thing.

And to me on the Anakin thing, it isn't much of a stretch. When he was young, he was happiest, and in love, where he did hunger more, that's where he sold his soul. Maybe when you are one with the force you can choose how you can come back. Anakin coming back as the same age as Luke is kind of fitting.

[Ghostvirus]

Thank Kirshner for giving the Star Wars fans a new way to hate on Lucas. I am sorry you had to die to do it. But I am sure the haters see it as a willing sacrifice seeing as they can't survive with out hating on Lucas at least once a day.

I am sure now that you have been struck down. You are more powerful than can be imagined.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

The only things need fixing is the goddamn lightsaber effects. Especially the green color it had when Luke was trying to block the laser blasts from the ball thing.

And to me on the Anakin thing, it isn't much of a stretch. When he was young, he was happiest, and in love, where he did hunger more, that's where he sold his soul. Maybe when you are one with the force you can choose how you can come back. Anakin coming back as the same age as Luke is kind of fitting.

Yeah, definitely the lightsabers and the blaster bolts.

I like Hayden being at the end of Episode 6. The way I see it, he appeared that way because the older Anakin never existed in reality. When he was younger, that's probably the last time he thought of himself as truly being Anakin Skywalker, and so he appeared that way to Luke.

[Bim]

Thank Kirshner for giving the Star Wars fans a new way to hate on Lucas. I am sorry you had to die to do it. But I am sure the haters see it as a willing sacrifice seeing as they can't survive with out hating on Lucas at least once a day.

I am sure now that you have been struck down. You are more powerful than can be imagined.
:hehe:

Erzengel: that part was one of my favorite reads in the Making of ESB book. Harrison didnt come up with it right when they were shooting the scene though, he had talked about it with Kershner moments before. It`s really interesting to "hear" (because Irvin was wearing a mic for an interview and they recorded the whole thing and this was transcribed in the book) on how things went during that day of filming, cause funny enough Harrison was angry at Carrie cause she yelled at him because she felt left out when she found out that he had talked with Kershner about the scene without her, but of course they didnt mean to leave her out... but Harrison wouldnt talk to her, and Carrie felt bad cause she shouldnt have yelled at him and kept telling Kershner that Ford wouldnt let her apologize. U all seriously need to read that book if u love ESB.

I fount it interesting to read Lucas` role in the making of the film, cause fans make it seem like the film was great cause he had nothing to do with it, which is wrong. It surprised me to see how much he was involved. Oh and if i remember right, the scene where Luke gets ready for the battle of Hoth where he talks to the robot was actually directed by George, something else i didnt know :)

[Rain Dog]

The only things need fixing is the goddamn lightsaber effects. Especially the green color it had when Luke was trying to block the laser blasts from the ball thing.



I wouldn't say it's the only thing that needs fixing but I agree. How is it that out of all the stuff he changed, after revising ANH twice he still hasn't gotten to it?

[FCEEVIPER]

I'm still not a fan of Greedo shooting first.
Who is??! :cmad:

[Doctor Jones]

It's not that big of a deal to me. I'm used to it by now. To me the cut with Han shooting first was kind of awkward in the first place.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Han shouldn't shoot first. He should be the only one who shoots to begin with.

[roach]

Who is??! :cmad:

it doesnt bother me. this is George Lucas' vision. if he wants Han to shoot first then who am i to argue with it.

[Doctor Jones]

There's really no point in complaining anymore. All we do is go around in circles with the same results, like we always do with these films. It's not going to change.

[Obi-Ron]

While I was thinking about that, I was curious what are some changes that you'd like to be switched back?

All of them... the original theatrical editions are the only versions I have any interest in. :oldrazz:

Yub yub!

[roach]

There's really no point in complaining anymore. All we do is go around in circles with the same results, like we always do with these films. It's not going to change.

agreed...well go a few pages about Clone Wars and the some one will randomly come in and get mad about Jar Jar or Midiclorians

[Doctor Jones]

That's fine Obi-Ron. I don't undertand why people can't just watch those and if they don't want to see the others, leave them be and stop complaining and just plain watch what you like.

Lucas is fulfilling his vision. You know, what he created in the first place so who are we to tell him what's right and wrong from his creation? There shouldn't be too much trouble, just leave him be to his own thing, while you leave yourself to what you prefer. It's as simple as that. *****ing about it accomplishes nothing except constant redundancy for the past 13 years.

[Obi-Ron]

Then the internet would be boring.

[roach]

That's fine. I don't undertand why people can't just watch those and if they don't want to see the others, leave them be and stop complaining and just plain watch what you like.

BECAUSE HE RUINED THEIR CHILDHOOD:cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:
:woot:

[Doctor Jones]

They didn't have much of a childhood then. You're telling me you're childhood was all Star Wars? Where were your parents, siblings, etc? Did they just leave you at the movie theater and you grew up in there or something?

[roach]

well that and transformers...maybe thundercats....im a child of the 80's. I was a latch key kid

[Ipodman]

His vision is the WRONG Vision!!!

Im jus joking... I dont see what so bad about that Greedo scene. The revised version happens so fast you cant see what happen anyway

[Yodaman]

It's just really awkward. Greedo's like six inches from Han's face, with the gun already pointed at Han, and he misses the shot. I've only fired a gun a couple of times in my life and I could've at least hit Han.

I'll agree with other people in this thread, though, it's not that big of a deal. I do think that a lot of the additions to the special editions take away from the movie and I always prefer to watch the theatrical versions when I have a choice, but it's still ****ing Star Wars. As if 2 minutes of goofy bits will ruin the other two hours of incredible cinema gold.

[Hellion]

While I was thinking about that, I was curious what are some changes that you'd like to be switched back? I know that the chances are extremely slim of it happening, but I'm just curious.


Han/Greedo never bothered me...please don't feed me to the rancor for that one, but I really don't mind it, or heck If I've ever really noticed actually.....

Two scenes where I prefer the original:

The original ESB Emperor/Vader scene I prefer to the new scene

The original Ewok celebration/Force ghost ending......I prefer it to the SE ending......

[Hellion]

His vision is the WRONG Vision!!!

Im jus joking... I dont see what so bad about that Greedo scene. The revised version happens so fast you cant see what happen anyway


I never even notice...blink and you miss it haha

[roach]

as an ex member of the military I can tell you there is a reason why cops and military aim for center mast (the chest). Aiming for the head and you get the chance that they perp can move out the way.

[Ipodman]

I didnt even know the jabba scene was added in /starwarsnoob

[Darkness Falls]

one major critisism i have with the jabba scene in anh
is that the scene stays on long enough for boba fett to walk on screen and look at the audience

i mean i'm a massive boba fett fanboy but that bit sticks out like a sore thumb

[Ipodman]

Most of the SE additions are pretty cool to me.

[Marx]

Who is??! :cmad:

That's a very good point.

That's fine Obi-Ron. I don't undertand why people can't just watch those and if they don't want to see the others, leave them be and stop complaining and just plain watch what you like.

Lucas is fulfilling his vision. You know, what he created in the first place so who are we to tell him what's right and wrong from his creation? There shouldn't be too much trouble, just leave him be to his own thing, while you leave yourself to what you prefer. It's as simple as that. *****ing about it accomplishes nothing except constant redundancy for the past 13 years.

To be fair, I haven't really said my opinions on these additions until recently. Every thread on the Hype goes in circles. We should all be used to it by now. :cwink:

[Obi-Ron]

I prefer to the new scene

The original Ewok celebration/Force ghost ending......I prefer it to the SE ending......

Celebrate the love! :hrt:

np6vAuS0KNs

[Marx]

I wonder how many people today are familiar with that ending...

[blksuperman2]

Well, to prolong the ForceGhost debate. How exactly did Anakin/Vader learn this trick? Before the prequels everyone just figured that all Jedis had this power. If only Yoda and Obi-Wan knew of this from ,Qui-Gon no less, where'd Anakin get this knowledge?

[Marx]

Anakin was the chosen one...enough said. :oldrazz:

[Ipodman]

Chosen by the Force to become bad then good again?

[Marx]

The prophecy of Anakin being 'the chosen one' was that he would 'bring balance to the force'. He did that when he led the jedi purge and then killed Palpatine.

[Obi-Ron]

It's a living.

[Darkness Falls]

i always have this debate at film class

anakin was and always would be the chosen one
luke was just the pushing force that made it happen

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Yub Nub :cmad: :up:

[Ipodman]

So by Anakin turning to the dark side and then resisting it and turning good again, he "balanced out the force"?

Who created the dark side anyway?? he asks sincerely

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

So by Anakin turning to the dark side and then resisting it and turning good again, he "balanced out the force"?

He got rid of the last Sith didn't he? And in Star Wars, balance means 1-0.

[blksuperman2]

The prophecy was to 'bring balance to the force'. He did that when he led the jedi purge and then killed Palpatine.

So helping to hunt down and kill all of your friends and eventually kill your evil master is bringing balance? At that point only Luke was left alive so really there was no balance.

[Marx]

Yub Nub :cmad: :up:

:funny:

[Marx]

So helping to hunt down and kill all of your friends and eventually kill your evil master is bringing balance? At that point only Luke was left alive so really there was no balance.

As Blitzkrieg said, 'balance' in the SW universe means 1-0. :cwink:

[roach]

he did balance the force....when he was done there was Vader and Sidious against Ben and Yoda

[blksuperman2]

As Blitzkrieg said, 'balance' in the SW universe means 1-0. :cwink:

My bad, I always forget that Leia had force abilities too so I guess 2-0 = balance.:huh:

[Ipodman]

Good vs nothing = balance~!

[Darkness Falls]

random thought... have they ever discussed/implied in any media that siths can be force ghosts aswell ?
and no.... anakin doesn't count

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

That's the trade off for Force lightning.

[Marx]

:funny:

[Hellion]

Celebrate the love! :hrt:

np6vAuS0KNs

Sweet Memories...:waa:

:hrt::bow:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Get funkay...

dV0LD-QAzg0

[Saved]

I always took that "force balance" deal to mean that Sith were the imbalance, so in order to restore balance, the sith must be destroyed wholly.

[Rain Dog]

I always took that "force balance" deal to mean that Sith were the imbalance, so in order to restore balance, the sith must be destroyed wholly.

I'm pretty sure Lucas has said something along those lines before but I would need to check.

[blksuperman2]

But prior to Qui-Gon finding Anakin wasn't it like decades before the Jedi ever encountered a Sith? Why would you need balance if the Jedi were so vast?

[Saved]

Sith was just a moniker - since the second Sith war or whatever, the sith may have been thought dead but everyone was still aware of dark jedi. Sith was just a title ultra crazy force sensitives gave themselves due to that whole "original sith clan" or whatever.

[Darkness Falls]

PiDRgDmXGi4

i hate it compared to the original posted earlier...
but boba being a pimp saved it :awesome:

[nightwing06]

I purchased this the other day but it's apropos seeing as Kirshner let Ford ad lib this scene.

Thats how great Kirshner was he had a great sense of humor about himself
even making cameos in flicks like On Deadly Ground in which he gets talked down to by Michael Caine.His direction of The Empire Strikes Back was brilliant
R.I.P

[Bim]

Celebrate the love! :hrt:

np6vAuS0KNs
I admit, i like the old song better... yub yub :awesome:

[danoyse]

But prior to Qui-Gon finding Anakin wasn't it like decades before the Jedi ever encountered a Sith? Why would you need balance if the Jedi were so vast?

But the Sith existed that whole time. Right in front of them, in fact, without them realizing it. The Jedi had become to reliant on their ways - like raising them from birth so they wouldn't have emotional attachment to their families that they thought their system was so foolproof that the Sith couldn't return or beat them if they did.

It took Anakin, who was raised away from the Jedi order, to save them. They worried that his compassion for his mother would be dangerous to them, but in the end it was his compassion for his son that ultimately destroyed the Sith and brought balance to the force. :up:

[Hellion]

Get funkay...

dV0LD-QAzg0

Muppet ROTJ Sy Snootles > Clone Wars Sy Snootles > CGI ROTJ SY Snootles


Well, finally saw Hunt for Zirro...my new favorite episode...loved Sy's performance...

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

PiDRgDmXGi4

"Jedi Rocks" is an abomination of sound.

[Timstuff]

I seriously don't know how I sat through that when I was a kid. Even back then when I would hardly criticize Lucas for anything something felt very off about that scene. The animation is obnoxious and the music is even moreso. It does not contribute anything to the plot and just breaks up the pace and tone of the film's first act for no reason.

[spidey-dude]

He got rid of the last Sith didn't he? And in Star Wars, balance means 1-0.

everyone knows luke wasnt a real jedi

0-0

[Obi-Ron]

Respect the Lapti Nek

rIk7M5uLmIc

[Yodaman]

everyone knows luke wasnt a real jedi

...what?

[Timstuff]

everyone knows luke wasnt a real jedi

0-0

A lot of people do not get what "balance" means. It does not mean that there is an equal amount of good and evil. Balance in this case is more refering to peace and harmony. The Jedi seek balance, while the Sith always seek more power for themselves, which is why the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the bad guys.

Think of it this way-- balance is something that exists between two concepts that are not mutually exclusive, but if balance tips too far in one direction it can be bad. The Jedi seek to find balance between order and liberty. If you have too much order without liberty, you have tyranny. If you have no order though, you quickly end up with anarchy. Evil force users typically are people who swung too far in one direction of the pendulum, either becoming uncontrollable sociopaths or brutal warlords. That is the result of the force being unbalanced on an individual scale, and on a larger scale it means constant turmoil between warring factions who all seek to put their own wants above everyone else's. When there are no Jedi around, the Sith fight with each other, because they do no not live in balance.

[Doctor Jones]

That's a very good point.



To be fair, I haven't really said my opinions on these additions until recently. Every thread on the Hype goes in circles. We should all be used to it by now. :cwink:

True, but they're the same old criticisms we've been hearing. :oldrazz:

[Erzengel]

I have the Ewok song as one of my ringtones. Requested by the person actually. :o

[Yodaman]

Also, the "circles" in this thread tend to last about 4-5 days, which gets really annoying. I guarantee you by Saturday someone new will come into this thread and declare their hugely negative opinion on Star Wars.

[Bim]

A lot of people do not get what "balance" means. It does not mean that there is an equal amount of good and evil. Balance in this case is more refering to peace and harmony. The Jedi seek balance, while the Sith always seek more power for themselves, which is why the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the bad guys.

Think of it this way-- balance is something that exists between two concepts that are not mutually exclusive, but if balance tips too far in one direction it can be bad. The Jedi seek to find balance between order and liberty. If you have too much order without liberty, you have tyranny. If you have no order though, you quickly end up with anarchy. Evil force users typically are people who swung too far in one direction of the pendulum, either becoming uncontrollable sociopaths or brutal warlords. That is the result of the force being unbalanced on an individual scale, and on a larger scale it means constant turmoil between warring factions who all seek to put their own wants above everyone else's. When there are no Jedi around, the Sith fight with each other, because they do no not live in balance.
Very good points there, sir :up:

[Darkness Falls]

"Jedi Rocks" is an abomination of sound.

the scariest part besides the awful music and horrid cgi is it alreadly looks like its been converted into 3d :dry:

[craigdbfan]

A lot of people do not get what "balance" means. It does not mean that there is an equal amount of good and evil. Balance in this case is more refering to peace and harmony. The Jedi seek balance, while the Sith always seek more power for themselves, which is why the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the bad guys.

Think of it this way-- balance is something that exists between two concepts that are not mutually exclusive, but if balance tips too far in one direction it can be bad. The Jedi seek to find balance between order and liberty. If you have too much order without liberty, you have tyranny. If you have no order though, you quickly end up with anarchy. Evil force users typically are people who swung too far in one direction of the pendulum, either becoming uncontrollable sociopaths or brutal warlords. That is the result of the force being unbalanced on an individual scale, and on a larger scale it means constant turmoil between warring factions who all seek to put their own wants above everyone else's. When there are no Jedi around, the Sith fight with each other, because they do no not live in balance.

Personally the very idea of the the Jedi and Sith existing always seems unbalanced.

I always took the ending of ROTJ as the demise of two polar opposite that were almost always caught in between political agenda.

You can see in the prequels that the Jedi had become a bit to comfortable and somewhat arrogant (Mace Windu and the other Jedi immediately undermining the Sith's return). Yoda kept "feeling" bad things but didn't really do much until ROTS maybe he knew deep down that both parties were causing more harm than good.

Both Obi-Wan and Yoda took a pointer from Sidious himself and laid low to have Luke reach out to Vader there in finally killing off the last of the Sith and Jedi from the age of the Republic.

Honestly I'd like to think that Luke saw all the pain and suffering that the Jedi/Sith arts could create and decided not to continue to train others in the force as it usually turns into a device for harm.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

everyone knows luke wasnt a real jedi
0-0
Yoda said Luke wouldn't be a full Jedi until he defeated Vader and the emperor, and what Yoda says, goes.
the scariest part besides the awful music and horrid cgi is it alreadly looks like its been converted into 3d :dry:
That horrific thought is actually making me consider walking out of the theater during that part. You know what? I will do that. I don't wanna hear that crap on my TV, let alone in a movie theater all up in my face.

[Spider-Vader]

Kershner's death saddened me. Not much longer before Georgie goes, is it? :(

[roach]

Kershner's death saddened me. Not much longer before Georgie goes, is it? :(

hush your mouth:cmad:

[Marx]

Lucas is only 66. That's not old.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

"Jedi Rocks" is an abomination of sound.

Yeah... update saber blades and blaster bolts, and erase all trace of "Jedi Rocks".

[ALP]

But the Sith existed that whole time. Right in front of them, in fact, without them realizing it. The Jedi had become to reliant on their ways - like raising them from birth so they wouldn't have emotional attachment to their families that they thought their system was so foolproof that the Sith couldn't return or beat them if they did.

It took Anakin, who was raised away from the Jedi order, to save them. They worried that his compassion for his mother would be dangerous to them, but in the end it was his compassion for his son that ultimately destroyed the Sith and brought balance to the force. :up:

Yeah but his compassion also had him slaughter younglins and allow Sidious to take over the universe, all in the name of love for Padme who he all but killed in his ruthless over-emotional actions.

Anakin/Vader's compassion may be what destroyed the sith in the end, but it was also his compassion that allowed the sith to flourish for two decades. He essentially solved a problem he started in the first place.

Lucas is only 66. That's not old.

No, it's ancient! Didn't Lucas create Star Wars in the stone age?:wow:

[Hellion]

Yeah... update saber blades and blaster bolts, and erase all trace of "Jedi Rocks".


Ditto...but somehow edit Sy's backup dancers/singers from "Jedi Rocks" into "Lapti Nek"...I love me some Lyn Me and Greeata...:hrt:

[DarKJediKnight]

But the Sith existed that whole time. Right in front of them, in fact, without them realizing it. The Jedi had become to reliant on their ways - like raising them from birth so they wouldn't have emotional attachment to their families that they thought their system was so foolproof that the Sith couldn't return or beat them if they did.

It took Anakin, who was raised away from the Jedi order, to save them. They worried that his compassion for his mother would be dangerous to them, but in the end it was his compassion for his son that ultimately destroyed the Sith and brought balance to the force. :up:

A lot of people do not get what "balance" means. It does not mean that there is an equal amount of good and evil. Balance in this case is more refering to peace and harmony. The Jedi seek balance, while the Sith always seek more power for themselves, which is why the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the bad guys.

Think of it this way-- balance is something that exists between two concepts that are not mutually exclusive, but if balance tips too far in one direction it can be bad. The Jedi seek to find balance between order and liberty. If you have too much order without liberty, you have tyranny. If you have no order though, you quickly end up with anarchy. Evil force users typically are people who swung too far in one direction of the pendulum, either becoming uncontrollable sociopaths or brutal warlords. That is the result of the force being unbalanced on an individual scale, and on a larger scale it means constant turmoil between warring factions who all seek to put their own wants above everyone else's. When there are no Jedi around, the Sith fight with each other, because they do no not live in balance.

Like. :up:

[spidey-dude]

A lot of people do not get what "balance" means. It does not mean that there is an equal amount of good and evil. Balance in this case is more refering to peace and harmony. The Jedi seek balance, while the Sith always seek more power for themselves, which is why the Jedi are the good guys and the Sith are the bad guys.

Think of it this way-- balance is something that exists between two concepts that are not mutually exclusive, but if balance tips too far in one direction it can be bad. The Jedi seek to find balance between order and liberty. If you have too much order without liberty, you have tyranny. If you have no order though, you quickly end up with anarchy. Evil force users typically are people who swung too far in one direction of the pendulum, either becoming uncontrollable sociopaths or brutal warlords. That is the result of the force being unbalanced on an individual scale, and on a larger scale it means constant turmoil between warring factions who all seek to put their own wants above everyone else's. When there are no Jedi around, the Sith fight with each other, because they do no not live in balance.

regardless luke is still a micky mouse jedi and you all know it

[spidey-dude]

Yoda said Luke wouldn't be a full Jedi until he defeated Vader and the emperor, and what Yoda says, goes.


luke didnt defeat the emperor vader did, haha Luke will never be a true jedi then!
:woot:

[Obi-Ron]

Ditto...but somehow edit Sy's backup dancers/singers from "Jedi Rocks" into "Lapti Nek"...I love me some Lyn Me and Greeata...:hrt:

Greeata, really? :wow: I mean, Lyn Me I can see. :yellow:

[roach]

luke didnt defeat the emperor vader did, haha Luke will never be a true jedi then!
:woot:

Luke's mission was to confront Vader and the Emperor not defeat them...if he made it thru alive and not turned he would be a jedi.
I believe Yoda can set the standard by which a jedi becomes a jedi....remember Obi wan became a jedi after defeating Darth Maul

and to the person who believes Luke didnt train any other jedi after ROTJ...Yoda told him on his deathbed to pass on what he learned

[Timstuff]

Personally the very idea of the the Jedi and Sith existing always seems unbalanced.

I always took the ending of ROTJ as the demise of two polar opposite that were almost always caught in between political agenda.

You can see in the prequels that the Jedi had become a bit to comfortable and somewhat arrogant (Mace Windu and the other Jedi immediately undermining the Sith's return). Yoda kept "feeling" bad things but didn't really do much until ROTS maybe he knew deep down that both parties were causing more harm than good.

Both Obi-Wan and Yoda took a pointer from Sidious himself and laid low to have Luke reach out to Vader there in finally killing off the last of the Sith and Jedi from the age of the Republic.

Honestly I'd like to think that Luke saw all the pain and suffering that the Jedi/Sith arts could create and decided not to continue to train others in the force as it usually turns into a device for harm.

The thing is, the Sith are not the only dark force users. Even in Episode I when it was believed that the sith were extinct, the Jedi council feared the the seduction of the dark side, and suspected that Anakin could be susceptible to it since he did not start training at an early age. Many Jedi have fallen to the dark side, and there are also other rogue force users and cults who use the dark side, as well as the Palpatine and Vader's own acolytes. None of the known ones gained the levels of power that the Sith did, but the concept that having two jedi and two sith is "balanced" is inherrently flawed because there are probably more than two bad guys using the force.

[Hellion]

Greeata, really? :wow: I mean, Lyn Me I can see. :yellow:

Stop knockin' the Rodian's...as a kid I always wanted to be Greedo to give hime some justice......plus Greeata's hot...:hrt:

[roach]

The thing is, the Sith are not the only dark force users. Even in Episode I when it was believed that the sith were extinct, the Jedi council feared the the seduction of the dark side, and suspected that Anakin could be susceptible to it since he did not start training at an early age. Many Jedi have fallen to the dark side, and there are also other rogue force users and cults who use the dark side, as well as the Palpatine and Vader's own acolytes. None of the known ones gained the levels of power that the Sith did, but the concept that having two jedi and two sith is "balanced" is inherrently flawed because there are probably more than two bad guys using the force.

there is a difference between a Sith and a darkside force user

[Darkness Falls]

did lucas ever give a reason behind that ****** death scene for boba fett in rotj ? :/
then to add insult to injury the sarlacc pit belched when he ate him in the SE version

atleast in the expanded universe he was said to have crawled out of the pit

[Rain Dog]

did lucas ever give a reason behind that ****** death scene for boba fett in rotj ? :/
then to add insult to injury the sarlacc pit belched when he ate him in the SE version

atleast in the expanded universe he was said to have crawled out of the pit

Lucas didn't know he'd be so popular. And that makes sense.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18851_7-movie-badasses-who-completely-fail-to-deliver_p2.html

[Yodaman]

then to add insult to injury the sarlacc pit belched when he ate him in the SE version

It belches in the original cut too.

[ALP]

That is very true, from what I know Fett was just originally a small side character without so much a face. How many lines did he even have? He was never meant to be anything more than a background character.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

In the EU Boba was given an entire life, he even went on to become Mandalore and trained Jaina to defeat Darth Caedus.

[Darkness Falls]

Lucas didn't know he'd be so popular. And that makes sense.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18851_7-movie-badasses-who-completely-fail-to-deliver_p2.html

It belches in the original cut too.

thanks rain dog and yodaman :word:

[Bim]

I never understood the whole Boba Fett love :huh:. Personally, i think Jango's way cooler than Boba, but that's just my opinion.

Changing gears a bit, here's some CW for 2011 :awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvDj_ndJyac

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[Hellion]

I never understood the whole Boba Fett love :huh:. Personally, i think Jango's way cooler than Boba, but that's just my opinion.

Changing gears a bit, here's some CW for 2011 :awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvDj_ndJyac

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At least Jango didn't go out like a chump (well, there is that lightsaber decapitation mess, but hey at least its not getting hit accidentally by a blind guy)................which is sad, since I do like Boba :csad:

[Yodaman]

That preview looks awesome :awesome:

Is tomorrow's episode the last one for 2010, then?

[Bim]

Is tomorrow's episode the last one for 2010, then?
Yes :csad:

[Sawyer]

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/12/luke_i_am_your_lorax_seussstar.php

:awesome:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Love the Tauntaun one.

[spidey-dude]

not as good as wookie the chew

http://jameshance.com/cartoons.html

[miisterwilson]

So i was reading on another website (mf.com) that assaj ventress is in fact.............. SAVAGE OPRESS.

here is what was said

"Asajj Ventress becomes Savage Oppress.

Asaajj Ventress goes to Dathomir after a falling out with Dooku. Witches transform Ventress into Oppress during a ritual (presumabely seen in the Celebration V "Mega-Trailer") and is presented to Dooku as his new apprentice.

What seals the deal is the similarity of their names:

Asajj Ventress
Savage Oppress

Both Asaaj and Savage are pronounced with the same accent."

more was said that the whole green mist thing the nightwitches are doing to both asajj and opress is them transforming her into him.
if that is so then i thik thats a real cool sneaky way to get her revenge. and i bet it works even better when they say he is mauls brother.

[miisterwilson]

its all in theory of course but who knows will star wars really take it that far? what do you guys think?

[Rain Dog]

That would be quite the twist...also very weird. Very weird.

[Marx]

No, it's ancient! Didn't Lucas create Star Wars in the stone age?:wow:
:oldrazz:

[Yodaman]

A sex change on a children's show? I severely doubt it.

[Obi-Ron]

Preposterous.

[Timstuff]

That would be stupid. This is Star Wars, not South Park.

[Bim]

So i was reading on another website (mf.com) that assaj ventress is in fact.............. SAVAGE OPRESS.

here is what was said

"Asajj Ventress becomes Savage Oppress.

Asaajj Ventress goes to Dathomir after a falling out with Dooku. Witches transform Ventress into Oppress during a ritual (presumabely seen in the Celebration V "Mega-Trailer") and is presented to Dooku as his new apprentice.

What seals the deal is the similarity of their names:

Asajj Ventress
Savage Oppress

Both Asaaj and Savage are pronounced with the same accent."

more was said that the whole green mist thing the nightwitches are doing to both asajj and opress is them transforming her into him.
if that is so then i thik thats a real cool sneaky way to get her revenge. and i bet it works even better when they say he is mauls brother.
I dont know if that's true or not, but that would be a heck of a twist for sure :wow:

[roach]

ahhhhhhhh Crying Game in Star wars

[Bim]

ahhhhhhhh Crying Game in Star wars
Oh gosh, poor Obi-Wan... maybe this is the real reason we found him in a Cantina during his exile :cwink:

[Hellion]

A sex change on a children's show? I severely doubt it.



An interesting twist but yeah, I don't think they'd do that on a kids show....mystical sex change or not...

[ALP]

Has anyone here ever just od'd on Star Wars? I did back in 05/06. I became a huge fan and just loved and wanted everything star wars. Still love it but I've fizzled out a lot since then.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Yeah. Been there...a few times.

[roach]

Has anyone here ever just od'd on Star Wars? I did back in 05/06. I became a huge fan and just loved and wanted everything star wars. Still love it but I've fizzled out a lot since then.

My fan-ness waned until I went to celebration 5 and then it got energized

[XxDelta09xX]

http://www.battlefront3.net/2010/12/battlefront-3-rumored-to-appear-at-spike-vga/

We can only hope this is true.

[Timstuff]

Has anyone here ever just od'd on Star Wars? I did back in 05/06. I became a huge fan and just loved and wanted everything star wars. Still love it but I've fizzled out a lot since then.

In the late 90s I OD'd when me and my brothers actually thought it was possible for us to own every Star Wars action figure. Several hundred dollars of lawn money later, we realized the error of our ways and switched to video games.

[Bim]

In the late 90s I OD'd when me and my brothers actually thought it was possible for us to own every Star Wars action figure. Several hundred dollars of lawn money later, we realized the error of our ways and switched to video games.
Ouch :hehe:

My fandom remains in a constant level these days, but yeah it`s a bit less intense than let`s say 2005 or whenever a movie was coming out. I suppose that it will spike up again when a saga boxset gets released or when the 3-D versions of the movies start getting released.

On a side note, this is awesome: http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=200042&ref=scroller-200042 ... look how vicious those ewoks look. :awesome:

[Erzengel]

I love the Sideshow Dioramas.
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2224_press01-001.jpg

I should have bought this one.
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2220_press04-001.jpg

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2000371_press01-001.jpg

http://heroworshiptoys.com/images/Duel-of-the-Fates.gif

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2217_press01-001.jpg

I ordered this one, though.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/200017_press01-001.jpg

[Bim]

I love the Sideshow Dioramas.
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/2224_press01-001.jpg


I`m tempted by this one, i really am...

[Erzengel]

Erzette said I'm cut off after I get this diorama. :(

She's right though. Moving into our new house, I can't exactly put collectibles in EVERY room. :o

[Doctor Jones]

Those are beautiful...

That Duel of the Fates one...

[Erzengel]

I would love to see a Luke Bespin or Jedi vs. Vader. :o

[ALP]

Those are incredible. Just looked up the prices and they are $200-300 hundred each. A poor fellow like me can't afford that.:csad:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

http://www.battlefront3.net/2010/12/battlefront-3-rumored-to-appear-at-spike-vga/

We can only hope this is true.

They've been saying this for every event... still hoping it's true though.

http://heroworshiptoys.com/images/Duel-of-the-Fates.gif

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/200017_press01-001.jpg

I'd love to get my hands on these two.

[Golgo-13]

^Ditto; those two are awesome!

[FCEEVIPER]

ahhhhhhhh Crying Game in Star wars
:woot:

[Timstuff]

Those statues are freaking epic!

[Bim]

Erzette said I'm cut off after I get this diorama. :(

She's right though. Moving into our new house, I can't exactly put collectibles in EVERY room. :o
How many rooms does ur new house have? :hehe:

[steintym]

Those are pretty awesome - Little pricey but I'd love to have them.

[Homer J. Fong]

I had no idea there was a Robot Chicken Star Wars: Episode III before Seth Green's Daily Show interview a few hours ago, but I can't wait, I LOVED the first two.

[Dark_Lord]

Clone Wars: Savage Opress Rocks
We check out the upcoming Star Wars episodes and like what we see. (http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/113/1138851p1.html)

[Bim]

I had no idea there was a Robot Chicken Star Wars: Episode III before Seth Green's Daily Show interview a few hours ago, but I can't wait, I LOVED the first two.
Yeah there's another one coming now in December... cant for the life of me remember the date though :o

Dark_Lord: i'm seriously looking forward to 2011 in CW... it sounds like its going to be awesome.

[Erzengel]

How many rooms does ur new house have? :hehe:
Right now it's regulated to the Basement. But I we have two china cabinets in the living room, with nothing to put in there. So I'm going to throw in my Vader and Obi-Wan in Clone Armor in there.

So probably there, the basement and one of the guest bedrooms.

[Homer J. Fong]

Yeah there's another one coming now in December... cant for the life of me remember the date though :o

The 19th, apparently.

[Bim]

Right now it's regulated to the Basement. But I we have two china cabinets in the living room, with nothing to put in there. So I'm going to throw in my Vader and Obi-Wan in Clone Armor in there.

So probably there, the basement and one of the guest bedrooms.
Aah cool. I love the Obi-Wan in clone armor one. All of my stuff is packed up in boxes i'm afraid :o... i just need to organize myself and find a nice display for all of it.

Homer J. Fong: thanks!

[Spider-Vader]

Ugh... The past couple episodes of CW have been so boring. I don't care about the politicians!

[FCEEVIPER]

Ugh... The past couple episodes of CW have been so boring. I don't care about the politicians!
Agreed.

[Hellion]

Ugh... The past couple episodes of CW have been so boring. I don't care about the politicians!


Only thing worth noting is Mina Bonteri died...after only appearing in one episode, and then killed offscreen, which is sad, I liked her character. Why do the characters I love always die!

[roach]

Only thing worth noting is Mina Bonteri died...after only appearing in one episode, and then killed offscreen, which is sad, I liked her character. Why do the characters I love always die!

im pretty sure in one way or another they all will

[Yodaman]

You know how the show has been all over the place in the chronology of episodes... there's a chance these dead characters COULD come back eventually.

[Bim]

Ugh... The past couple episodes of CW have been so boring. I don't care about the politicians!
They ant all be action :oldrazz: but dont worry, looks like ur gonna get plenty in 2011 with Savage Opress coming up.

[TheDreamMaster]

So, spoilers leaked out for the Savage Opress screening. I'll post them in spoiler tags from another forum. MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW:
Reposting for JasonW

From memory:

The story starts out with Dooku being contacted by Sidious. He wants Ventress killed. Ventress attacks Obi-Wan and Anakin's Star Destroyer. She shoots Obi-Wan down and he's forced to crash land on a Confederate Cruiser like scene in Revenge of the Sith (I was disappointed he didn't flip out of the ship like the film).

She crashes in the hanger too and radios Dooku for help. He says sorry, you've failed me for the last time and leaves her for dead. They end up fighting in the hanger bay and she escapes, barely alive after the ship goes down and is blown apart. Admiral Yalareen might have died here, but he didn't because he's in A New Hope. The ship is ready to blow and begins to break apart and all three scramble to their ships. Somehow the ships work, don't ask questions they just do.

She ends up unconscious in her ship drifting through space. Pirates pick her up and inject her with a stimulate. The pirate is a total hick Twilek with a cowboy accent. They crowd around her and she demands they take her to Dathomir. They laugh because there's nothing but fog and witches there. She does some Force Unleashed moves on them and they all die and she flies to the planet.

She approaches the Night Sisters Temple and ninja chicks with electric bow and arrows threaten to kill her. Luckily the mother comes and calls them off. She remembers Ventress as one of their own.

They do some scary chanting and carry her boy to a table. They have magic toxic water and they rub it on her body. These scenes are some serious occult **** from a 70s film or something. This causes her to see her life in a series of vision/flashbacks.


We see Ventress as a child, born in the witch coven. They give her off to a crazy wizard dude or something because they owe him and they have to and he starts to teach her the Force/magic. She's probably 5 years old here. A Jedi comes in and starts fighting the village, killing her Master. He sees her use the Force to kill her master's attackers and takes her on as an apprentice. Years later her master is killed and she lashes out in anger at her master's killer, making her choice to use the Dark Side of the Force. The vision ends with Dooku's "you've failed me for the last time" scene.

She's angry and pissed off. The Mother of the Night Sisters agrees to help her exact her revenge. These women are pure evil.

The mother contacts Dooku and says she knows he needs a new apprentice. She offers him one of Darth Maul's kin. Dooku accepts this gift.

Ventress and two girls are cloaked in magic that makes them invisible. They sneak into Dooku's house. with a poison dart. They shoot him with the dart and he goes blind. But Dooku doesn't need eyes to fight with his saber. They fight into a hall way and into a larger room. Dooku has enough and shocks the hell out of the girls and they flee.





Ventress then travels to a far away village that Darth Maul originates from. There are dudes like Maul but they aren't as menacing. They seems somewhat noble. Some of these scenes seemed to be inspired by Spartacus and the training place.

The commander of the clan orders all the leaders of the houses to fall in line and present themselves to Ventress. She walks up to some, punches them for being too short. Says one is attractive and kicks him down. Savage looks at his brother and says "keep quiet" and she picks Savage and his brother and one other dude. They are to fight her.

They fight her and she beats their asses. She first fights them in the dark and kills the 3rd guy. The lights come on and she fights both men. She is about to kill Savage's brother when he begs her to let him live and he submits to her, presumably as her mate.

Ventress takes Savage to the Mother Night Sister. They preform some sort of Satanic ritual on his body. He starts to convulse as he's consumed and possessed by their magic. His horns grow larger and his muscles bulge. He's like the Hulk compared to his previous self. He has a darkness in his eyes that wasn't there before. He grabs Ventress by the neck like a Frankenstein monster out of control. The Mother whispers to Ventress to tell him to stop. She screams it. But she says she must whisper it gentle and she does and he stops. They have total control of him.

Ventress bring his brother into the room. She orders him to kill him. His brother begs for his life but he doesn't see it that and he kills his brother. Convinced they have total control, the Mother Night Sister gives him to Dooku.

Dooku trains him in the Force by abusing him with lightning. He can't lift stones and in a scene that mirrors Empire, Savage says its impossible. Dooku shocks him until he starts to lift the stones out of anger. He shouts "I hate you!" at Dooku and Dooku says that's good because it's making him stronger.

Dooku orders Savage to take out a temple that's housing Republic Forces. Savage rushes in, a clip we've seen, and cuts them all down. He kills the master and the apprentice. He reports back to Dooku who is pleased. They train some, he's tortured some more by Dooku.

We then see the shots of the Republic Commandos bringing the bodies back home to Obi-Wan, Plo, and the gang. Yoda's intelligence tells them to go to Dathomir, they know he's one of the Maul guys.

Obi-Wan and Anakin land on the planet and Maul and Savage's tribe attack them. They fight for a while and then they get the head of the Maul people by the throat and Anakin threatens to kill him. They tell him to go to the Mother of the Night Sisters (I got the sense they figured that would be death for them anyways).

The mother doesn't want to fight them. She looks into her crystal ball and says he's on Toydaria. They rush there. Dooku orders Savage to abduct King Katuunko.

We see Savage land on the planet. He kills all the Toydarians. Obi-Wan and Anakin confront him. He's throwing them around and stuff. The dark side really is the quick and easy path to power. Savage buries the Jedi under some debris. Savage grabs Katuunko by the neck and snaps it. He then flees to the ship dragging the dead body on the ground and tossing it savagely onto the ship.

He lands at Dooku's base. Dooku is pissed. He wasn't supposed to kill him. He starts to torture Savage. Ventress steps out of the shadows. Dooku orders Savage to kill Ventress. Ventress laughs, taps Savage's forehead and he has to obey her commands. They start to fight Dooku but for some reason, he loses control of everything and attacks them both.

Anakin and Obi-Wan catch up them and start fighting Savage. Ventress and Dooku fight one another. This is the best fight in the series yet.

Ventress flees.

Savage fights his way out and flees back to the Mother. She vows to help him get revenge (that seems to be her thing). She says he can do it... she walks over to a crystal ball. He can do it if he finds his brother... The camera zooms to the ball and Darth Maul's face is in it. He's alive and in hiding. He can find the answers by wearing a talisman that will take him to his long lost brother.

[Bim]

Woa, sounds intense! :wow: (yes, i gave into the dakrisde and clicked :csad:). Cant wait for 2011!

[roach]

me too...sounds awesome

[Timstuff]

Several websites are reporting a rumor that George Lucas is buying the rights to the likenesses of several dead celebrities, with the intention of using CG to re-create them in future movies. None of them have any word on which celebrities he might be buying the rights to, but Movie Hole quickly jumped to the same speculation I did-- the possibility of a CG Alec Guiness.

http://www.moviehole.net/201034230-alec-guinness-may-reunite-with-george-lucas-yet

How do you guys feel about this? There's been rumors over the past decade that the next theatrical release of Star Wars Episode IV will have an extended lightsaber battle between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi, and with the recent advancements in CG face re-creation in films like Terminator Salvation and Tron Legacy it certainly seems possible now.

George Lucas has several more years until Episode IV is ready to return to the big screen in 3D, and I'm sure that gives him plenty of time to think about what fancy new CG tricks he'd like to add. Undoubtedly, many with shout "Sacrelige!" but in this case I think my curiosity outweighs my sentimentality.

[GhostPoet]

I'm all for it. Necromance those suckers!

=P

[roach]

Several websites are reporting a rumor that George Lucas is buying the rights to the likenesses of several dead celebrities, with the intention of using CG to re-create them in future movies. None of them have any word on which celebrities he might be buying the rights to, but Movie Hole quickly jumped to the same speculation I did-- the possibility of a CG Alec Guiness.

http://www.moviehole.net/201034230-alec-guinness-may-reunite-with-george-lucas-yet

How do you guys feel about this? There's been rumors over the past decade that the next theatrical release of Star Wars Episode IV will have an extended lightsaber battle between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi, and with the recent advancements in CG face re-creation in films like Terminator Salvation and Tron Legacy it certainly seems possible now.

George Lucas has several more years until Episode IV is ready to return to the big screen in 3D, and I'm sure that gives him plenty of time to think about what fancy new CG tricks he'd like to add. Undoubtedly, many with shout "Sacrelige!" but in this case I think my curiosity outweighs my sentimentality.

im pretty sure they said they werent changing or adding to the movies just make them 3D

[Obi-Ron]

Lucas got the Vader/Kenobi fight right in 1977.

[roach]

http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/George-Lucas-dead-actors-rumor-untrue/7829897&rss=rss-kabc-ent_story-7829897

George Lucas 'dead actors' rumor untrue
Get More: 'Star Wars'
Posted 12/07/2010 by Corinne Heller
George Lucas has no plans to put images of dead actors in new films, contrary to a recent British newspaper report, his production company says.

The Sun recently quoted British comedian and actor Mel Smith as saying Lucas, creator of the "Star Wars" franchise, has been buying the rights to "dead movie legends" and planned to use "computer trickery" to show them alongside each other on screen.

"This is a false rumor," a spokesperson for Lucasfilm told OnTheRedCarpet.com on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, Lucas has several projects in the works and plans on re-releasing the 1999 film "Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace" in theaters 3D in 2012. All "Star Wars" movies are set to be released on Blu-ray in the fall of 2011, which will include interviews and unreleased footage from the Lucas film archives.

Lucas is also working on a live-action "Star Wars" television show and a script for it is being developed, although the project is currently on hold due to budget concerns.

An animated "Star Wars" comedy series is also planned and is being developed by Seth Green and Matthew Senreich from the animated show "Robot Chicken" and Brendan Hay from "The Daily Show".

[Doctor Jones]

So we're believing The Sun?

[phillyboy]

I wouldn't mind if they extended the Obiwan/Vader duel, but keep it in-line with the rest of the trilogy- no flipping around, etc. Something along the lines of the Luke/Vader duel from ROTJ.

[A Necessary Evil]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleybaccam/star-wars-by-dr-seuss


:awesome:

[Darkness Falls]

saw that the other day lol
love the obi wan/vader one :D

[A Necessary Evil]

LOL It's the best one :D

Chewy is so cute ;__;

[Bim]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleybaccam/star-wars-by-dr-seuss


:awesome:
:hehe: this was awesome. The old Ben/Vader one is my favorite for sure.

[DCW]

Clone Wars Season 3 preview! (The one shown at the end of the Savvage Oppress theatrical screenings):

http://insidetv.ew.com/2010/12/14/star-wars-the-clone-wars-trailer-an-ew-exclusive/#more-28013


Looks beyond awesome!

[Yodaman]

:wow::wow::awesome::awesome::up::up:

Goddamn, could this show possibly get any more epic?

[A Necessary Evil]

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3415/34799174465366321214448.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.amazingtoyfigures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Luke-Skywalker-1.jpg (http://www.amazingtoyfigures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Luke-Skywalker-1.jpg)
http://www.amazingtoyfigures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Luke-Skywalker-3.jpg (http://www.amazingtoyfigures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Luke-Skywalker-3.jpg)
Well now I know what'll be using my Christmas money for this year.

[blksuperman2]

Clone Wars Season 3 preview! (The one shown at the end of the Savvage Oppress theatrical screenings):

http://insidetv.ew.com/2010/12/14/star-wars-the-clone-wars-trailer-an-ew-exclusive/#more-28013


Looks beyond awesome!

That does look pretty cool. These last 4-5 episodes have really been lackluster. I'm hoping the second 1/2 of this season is as action-packed as that trailer.:awesome:

[CGHulk]

Asoka goes to the Dark Side and duels Anakin, so does Anakin have to kill her, or does he save her?

[lespaul59]

That does look pretty cool. These last 4-5 episodes have really been lackluster. I'm hoping the second 1/2 of this season is as action-packed as that trailer.:awesome:

I agree. If I wasn't a long time SW fan, I probaly wouldn't watch CW again after the last three episodes. While each episode had parts I liked for the most part they where kinda slow and I lost intrest in watching but I finished them. But I did catch the episode ARC Trooper( I think thats the right title) and really liked it. I also finaly watched the CW movie and really liked it.

[blksuperman2]

I agree. If I wasn't a long time SW fan, I probaly wouldn't watch CW again after the last three episodes. While each episode had parts I liked for the most part they where kinda slow and I lost intrest in watching but I finished them. But I did catch the episode ARC Trooper( I think thats the right title) and really liked it. I also finaly watched the CW movie and really liked it.

The first few episodes this season where awesome including the ARC Trooper one you mentioned but they're really all over the place this year. For one they show Ashoka w/ her new costume but then in the same episode show Senator Onaconda Farr who was killed last season. These episodes not being in chronological order is getting so convoluted that I think even the producers have lost track.

Speaking of the CW movie I liked it but apparently there will be a few episodes that take place before the movie. Showing how Ventress kidnaps Rotta so I guess these eps will get even more confusing.

[Doc Ock]

Season Three of The Clone Wars looks pretty cool! Maybe I have been unfair to the show....maybe I should give it another chance. My Aunt has the first and second seasons on DVD......hmmmm....

[blksuperman2]

Season Three of The Clone Wars looks pretty cool! Maybe I have been unfair to the show....maybe I should give it another chance. My Aunt has the first and second seasons on DVD......hmmmm....

I'd definitely recommend you borrow your Aunt's DVDs. Season 1 is good and the series just keeps getting better from then. Like I said though the last 4-5 episodes of season 3 haven't really lived up to the high plateau that the series has had. I really don't mind the political aspects of the show but the last few episodes felt like I was watching C-SPAN. Booooorrring.:sleepy::down

[Marvolo]

Back when the series started I thought she would go to the drakside, but I wonder if this is real or a dream of sorts instigated by an enemy or maybe the planet he's on is full of dark side energy and is making him see these things. Perhaps she is brain washed, or maybe she is consumed by the dark side while she is in a sith temple. Maybe I should just wait and see, lol.

[Bim]

Asoka goes to the Dark Side and duels Anakin, so does Anakin have to kill her, or does he save her?
:wow: i say the first one would make more sense with her not getting mentioned in the movies at all, but it would be kind of sad if this indeed is her fate, i admit.

Kal-El: woa, that Luke looks fantastic!

Doc Ock: i say go for it... borrow them and give it a look. There's some pretty amazing episodes in both seasons 1 and 2 worth checking out. I personally like the political aspect of the PT and CW, so for me the last few episodes havent been boring. I hate real life politics but i find myself intrigued by it in Star Wars :oldrazz:

[Darkness Falls]

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3415/34799174465366321214448.jpg

:woot:

[Doctor Jones]

That Luke figure is stunning. If only I had the money...

[Spider-Vader]

They ant all be action :oldrazz: but dont worry, looks like ur gonna get plenty in 2011 with Savage Opress coming up.

Oh I know, the politician characters would bore me even if they were in the midst of a gunfight. I'd much rather have a character development episode on clones, than an all out action episode too.

Also, I hope in Season 4 they stop with the time jumping from episode to episode, it's sorta annoying when you're watching an episode & realize at the end that it's a prequel to an episode from last season.

[Doc Ock]

That Luke figure is stunning. If only I had the money...

Indeed. :(

[Passdom]

I got the Making of the Empire Strikes Back book today! Can't wait to start digging into it

Got it thanks to the 50% off coupon from Borders, paid "only" $42

[lespaul59]

Can you still get the first Clone Wars cartoon on dvd? I also hope to pick up season 1 and 2 of CW soon. I missed S2 on sale at Best Buy so I hope I can catch both S1 and 2 on sale sometime soon.

[Obi-Ron]

from episode to episode, it's sorta annoying when you're watching an episode & realize at the end that it's a prequel to an episode from last season.

They should show where each episode lies on the galactic timeline. You know, like having a voice announce the "star date" at the beginning of the episode...

Nah, that would never work. :word:

[Bim]

I got the Making of the Empire Strikes Back book today! Can't wait to start digging into it

Got it thanks to the 50% off coupon from Borders, paid "only" $42
Enjoy! it's a fantastic read imo.

lespaul59: yes u can. I know amazon has them available, although just from individual sellers, not them directly.

[lespaul59]

Enjoy! it's a fantastic read imo.

lespaul59: yes u can. I know amazon has them available, although just from individual sellers, not them directly.

Thanks for the info.

[CGHulk]

Phil Tippett received the Visual Effects Society award this year, here's a video interview about his work on Empire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyHSvlo4m54

[Spider-Vader]

They should show where each episode lies on the galactic timeline. You know, like having a voice announce the "star date" at the beginning of the episode...

Nah, that would never work. :word:

That'd be a great idea! I'd be okay with the retarded timeline the show had if they did that.

Sideshow always makes great products, they made an amazing Jabba a couple years ago.

[chaseter]

You can thank you buddy Chase:

www.mondotees.com

[Doctor Jones]

Those are awesome.

[Timstuff]

im pretty sure they said they werent changing or adding to the movies just make them 3D

Heh, I very much doubt that will be the case several years from now, when A New Hope is being prepped for 3D release. Lucas always tweaks something, and with that sacred cow already slain there's really no reason for him to stop editing with the version that was released on DVD.

The duel in Episode IV has been a bit of a question mark for people for quite a while. It's the slowest duel out of any of the movies, and it has no tempo. The choreography is on the sloppy side, and overall you get the sense that melee combat was not something Lucas was ready to direct at the time. ESB and ROTJ's duels, by comparison, were much more intense. In ESB, it was all about Vader playing with Luke's fear and anger, and held back to make Luke underestimate him. In ROTJ they went all out, with Luke starting to come into his own as a Jedi, showing that he is starting to master the skills that the Jedi use in the prequels. The lightsaber action in the film is very reminiscent of the classic swashbuckler films that inspired Lucas to make Star Wars, too.

Overall, the action in V and VI holds up well and does not need to be changed. However, even by the original trilogy's standards the duel in IV felt lethargic and dull. It was meant inspired by Samurai duels, but for film it lacked energy, and relied perhaps a bit too heavily on the lightsaber effect to keep it interesting in lieu of exciting choreography. The location is also very dull, with just a generic hallway as the location of Obi-Wan and Vader's final confrontation.

It's overall an anticlimactic fight scene, and if they re-did it they could give us something that feels more consistent with the rest of the saga. They can rotoscope out that generic hallway and replace it with something more interesting, like a TIE Fighter hangar, and then make the new feel more like a set piece, and add a new score to the scene to make it feel more climactic. There's also the possibility that the new footage could be shot in 3D, which I'm sure would make for a great sales pitch in the ads. "Featuring new, extended battle scenes you've never seen before, in 3D!"

There's the destruction of Alderaan, too. I always felt like that scene lacked emotional weight, because for me it was always just a blue sphere that explodes. Perhaps if they showed us some of the people on the planet cowering and screaming in terror as their planet is destroyed, we'd have a more empathetic reaction when Obi-Wan describes his feeling of distress.

1hMOG9qN5rg

[DCW]

You can thank you buddy Chase:

www.mondotees.com (http://www.mondotees.com)

Really, REALLY considering buying these!

[Obi-Ron]

"Featuring new, extended battle scenes you've never seen before, in 3D!"

That really wouldn't make the movie any better, just more "EXTREME." :dry:

And they just couldn't resist showing Jar Jar on Alderaan, could they.

[roach]

Heh, I very much doubt that will be the case several years from now, when A New Hope is being prepped for 3D release. Lucas always tweaks something, and with that sacred cow already slain there's really no reason for him to stop editing with the version that was released on DVD.

The duel in Episode IV has been a bit of a question mark for people for quite a while. It's the slowest duel out of any of the movies, and it has no tempo. The choreography is on the sloppy side, and overall you get the sense that melee combat was not something Lucas was ready to direct at the time. ESB and ROTJ's duels, by comparison, were much more intense. In ESB, it was all about Vader playing with Luke's fear and anger, and held back to make Luke underestimate him. In ROTJ they went all out, with Luke starting to come into his own as a Jedi, showing that he is starting to master the skills that the Jedi use in the prequels. The lightsaber action in the film is very reminiscent of the classic swashbuckler films that inspired Lucas to make Star Wars, too.

Overall, the action in V and VI holds up well and does not need to be changed. However, even by the original trilogy's standards the duel in IV felt lethargic and dull. It was meant inspired by Samurai duels, but for film it lacked energy, and relied perhaps a bit too heavily on the lightsaber effect to keep it interesting in lieu of exciting choreography. The location is also very dull, with just a generic hallway as the location of Obi-Wan and Vader's final confrontation.

It's overall an anticlimactic fight scene, and if they re-did it they could give us something that feels more consistent with the rest of the saga. They can rotoscope out that generic hallway and replace it with something more interesting, like a TIE Fighter hangar, and then make the new feel more like a set piece, and add a new score to the scene to make it feel more climactic. There's also the possibility that the new footage could be shot in 3D, which I'm sure would make for a great sales pitch in the ads. "Featuring new, extended battle scenes you've never seen before, in 3D!"

There's the destruction of Alderaan, too. I always felt like that scene lacked emotional weight, because for me it was always just a blue sphere that explodes. Perhaps if they showed us some of the people on the planet cowering and screaming in terror as their planet is destroyed, we'd have a more empathetic reaction when Obi-Wan describes his feeling of distress.

1hMOG9qN5rg

the guy who is in charge of the 3D conversion said they werent changing anything...just making the movies in 3D

just because you feel it needs work doesnt mean Lucas does

[Timstuff]

We're still at least 5 years away from Episode IV's 3D debut. A lot can happen in that time, and my personal suspicion is that it will. I don't think anyone expected Lucas to make further tweaks to the special editions when they were released on DVD, and there's nothing stopping him from doing it again now that the movies are going to be re-released in theaters.

Personally, I'd be just as happy watching the original 1977 cut on the big screen, but I feel like if they're going to "modernize" an old movie with new effects anyway, they might as well pull out all the stops.

[roach]

http://www.awn.com/articles/people/john-knoll-talks-star-wars-3-d/page/3%2C1

BD: Any plans to do tweaking?

JK: No, there are no plans to revisit shots or do any new work. This is just doing a stereo conversion of what we've got. This is a long process if done right and I have no intention of doing something that damages the brand. I think we're going to set a new precedent for what conversion can look like?


From the bantha's mouth.

[lespaul59]

We're still at least 5 years away from Episode IV's 3D debut. A lot can happen in that time, and my personal suspicion is that it will. I don't think anyone expected Lucas to make further tweaks to the special editions when they were released on DVD, and there's nothing stopping him from doing it again now that the movies are going to be re-released in theaters.

Personally, I'd be just as happy watching the original 1977 cut on the big screen, but I feel like if they're going to "modernize" an old movie with new effects anyway, they might as well pull out all the stops.

Same here. I picked up ANH with the theatrical cut and I loved watching it. But if they're going to mess with them again I just hope they still include the theatrical versions for people like myself who like the theatrical cut and so future fans can see the original versions and see what made SW the force it is today.

[Timstuff]

PvDEOO_h3PE

:hehe:

[Bim]

Good one, Tim :funny:

[Doctor Jones]

I saw the preview to the next half of the third season of CW. BAD. ASS. You can tell they really improved upon the animation. The images were really beautiful there. Who the hell is that Sith Lord looking guy?

[roach]

I saw the preview to the next half of the third season of CW. BAD. ASS. You can tell they really improved upon the animation. The images were really beautiful there. Who the hell is that Sith Lord looking guy?

i dunno but I liked how he was blocking lightsabers with his forearms

[spidey-dude]

rewatched episode 1 today, man is some of that cgi looking outdated - I hope they sort it out for the 3d release, I havnt watched it for a while and some of it really dosnt hold up, wish they had used more practical effects

[Marx]

I wish they wouldn't have tried to make Yoda look so much younger. :down

[Timstuff]

rewatched episode 1 today, man is some of that cgi looking outdated - I hope they sort it out for the 3d release, I havnt watched it for a while and some of it really dosnt hold up, wish they had used more practical effects

Lucas revisited the CG for Jabba in the DVD release of Episode IV due to the 1997 version looking so outdated. Personally, I still feel like the scene is unecessary and doesn't belong in the film, but at least Lucas made an effort to improve it now that the technology has improved. Perhaps some of the faker looking CG elements in Episode I will be enhanced, but there's no guarantees since the official word ATM is that they're only adding the 3D effect.

I wish they wouldn't have tried to make Yoda look so much younger. :down

They've already re-done the footage for Episode I yoda in CG. Obviously he looks like an animated rather than a puppet, but it's at least a HUGE improvement over the original footage and feels consistent with the rest of the movies.

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Also, there's the possibility that they'll make some digital enhancements to Yoda in the OT movies like they did with E.T., which could help make him feel more consistent. Adywan's Revisited enhancement of Empire Strikes Back uses some of these enhancements to good effect. (I recommend watching the clip below in HD on Youtube's site).

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If some British guy working on a computer in his office can make ESB's Yoda look that good, surely Lucas's army of technical wizards can come up with something comparable. But then again, that's been my attitude towards almost all of Adywan's work I've seen, and yet the official word is still that there are not going to be any new enhancements made to the original trilogy with the upcoming re-release. Since they made an effort to make Yoda look slightly puppet-like in the prequels despite being CG, that means they're already half way there. By making Yoda look slightly more animated in the OT, then theoretically the effect will be that Yoda looks pretty consistent overall, despite being animated in the prequels and being a real puppet in the OT.

As I've said already, I feel like if you're going to meddle with the original trilogy, you might as well go all the way. There are plenty of things that I think are retarded and pointless like Greedo shooting first, changing Boba Fett's voice and replacing old Anakin at the end of ROTJ, and I wish Lucas would consider changing them back, but when it comes to actually enhancing the film to look more up to modern standards I am not against it, since it makes the film more enjoyable for modern audiences and gives the saga a more consistent feel.

My personal preference for experiencing Star Wars is first watching the original cuts of IV, V, and VI, followed by I, II, and III, and then the special editions of IV, V, and VI. However, I do not claim that that this is the only valid way. However, if the goal of the special editions is to make the experience of watching Star Wars in chronological order feel more consistent then I think they might as well give it their all.

[spidey-dude]

i could definitely cope with an updated yoda in the OT

in fact tbh Im all for enhanced cgi to make the OT have a closer feel to the PT (event hough i love the originals)


after watching episode 1 again i realise it really isnt that bad a film - a few changes to it and i might actually consider it pretty damn good

[Timstuff]

This week, once I get my last homework assignments done I'm going to try and get the DVD for my Episode I fancut finished. Honestly, after all the work I went throguh I feel like it's helped me realized that I actually enjoy Episode I, even though I went through it looking for things to change (and I ended up making around a hundred cuts and alterations to the film, possibly even more). It's still the weakest of the series, and cutting stuff out doesn't solve some of it's bigger problems (the lack of motivation for the characters, the overall methodical approach to the story, Anakin's terrible acting and Jar Jar's annoyingness), but I feel like the movie is definitely not as bad as many people have made it out to be. That doesn't mean it not a disappointing start for the series, but I can still watch it and enjoy myself which I think is what matters at the end of the day.

[A Necessary Evil]

I feel that way for all three prequels, tbh.

[spidey-dude]

to be honest if i block out young annie and jar jar i like it

[jacobed]

I don't mind episode 1 mainly because of Qui-Gon and Obi Wan, their fight and the fantastic podrace. The greatest thing Episode 1 ever did though was releasing that amazing poster of Anakin walking with Darth Vader's shadow. Easily one of the greatest posters ever.

[Timstuff]

^ In general, this is what I end up asking myself after I see a movie: "did the things that I enjoyed about the movie outweigh the things I didn't?" A movie does not have to be great for me to like it, as long as there's something in it that I feel like is worth putting up with the problems to get to.

[jacobed]

You gotta look at as a kid's movie. Jar Jar is there for the kids, Anakin was made to look as innocent as possible. For the most part I can watch it with them and not get annoyed in fact I find the movie to be pretty fun throughout. What more can you ask for from a Star Wars movie you have a lot of great Jedi action including the amazing Darth Maul fight, you have a great underwater chase scene, a great podrace, the last act is like non stop action taking place in 3 different regions sometimes 4 not too mention we were introduced to Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan. How can you complain about any of that.

[Infinity9999x]

This week, once I get my last homework assignments done I'm going to try and get the DVD for my Episode I fancut finished. Honestly, after all the work I went throguh I feel like it's helped me realized that I actually enjoy Episode I, even though I went through it looking for things to change (and I ended up making around a hundred cuts and alterations to the film, possibly even more). It's still the weakest of the series, and cutting stuff out doesn't solve some of it's bigger problems (the lack of motivation for the characters, the overall methodical approach to the story, Anakin's terrible acting and Jar Jar's annoyingness), but I feel like the movie is definitely not as bad as many people have made it out to be. That doesn't mean it not a disappointing start for the series, but I can still watch it and enjoy myself which I think is what matters at the end of the day.

I'd say Episode II is worse.

[jacobed]

I agree Episode 2 was not very good, it was too much of a romantic story which would be fine if it had worked but it didn't at all and way way way too much Anakin whining.

[roach]

i see this thread is a circle...and we're back to complaining about the prequels

[A Necessary Evil]

Welcome to the internet, my friend. :csad:

[antsman41]

Boba Fett just pulled out a Batman Begins line on Luke...

[Yodaman]

Robot Chicken tonight was :awesome::awesome::awesome::lmao::lmao::lmao::bow: :bow: