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Cheshire1996
05-24-2011, 12:24 AM
Yet another battle I look forward to watching, is it just me are there some amazingly cool sounding fight scenes being included in First Class?

Sweet Xstacy
05-24-2011, 12:30 AM
Yet another battle I look forward to watching, is it just me are there some amazingly cool sounding fight scenes being included in First Class?

Yep. It's not just you. Gonna be awesome. Actually I want to see Azazel teleport fight, throw knives and choke people with his tail, lol.

Cheshire1996
05-24-2011, 05:04 AM
Definitely, and I can't wait to see Emma go all telepathic and Magneto deliver some awesome lines. There's to much in this film that I can't wait for...

misjuevos
05-26-2011, 03:56 PM
saw beast from a commercial is he going to look like the current kitty-face beast? i always hated that beast look. he just looks like a cat, the older beast looked way better.

Cheshire1996
05-27-2011, 12:04 AM
I don't think anyone's 100% sure what he's going to look like, maybe he'll change from scene to scene XD

Colossal Spoons
05-27-2011, 12:52 AM
He looks like the Wolfman to me

psyonic
05-27-2011, 01:21 AM
X3 Beast was Kelsey Grammar in blue paint to me .. no creativity at all.

Matt Mortem
05-27-2011, 12:19 PM
I like both Beast's. Kelsey's performance was the ultimate Beast IMO and the design in FC looks top-notch too. Even if Kelsey's Beast was just blue paint, his performance ultimately saved the character. I haven't seen Hoult's performance yet, but I remain optimistic.

misjuevos
05-27-2011, 02:45 PM
yeah it does look wolfmanish, i just never liked the cat face looking beast. if it turns out like that i will not like the look, just not a fan of that beast face.

Deaths Head II
05-27-2011, 04:00 PM
I agree that X3 Beast was just Kelsey Grammar in blue paint. If it wasn't for the actor underneath the paint I doubt most people would be as kind towards that Beast's makeup job.

Stripesy Strip
05-30-2011, 02:29 PM
I sort of wish since he's introduced here for the first time that Beast wouldn't have been blue and furry and it would have been like his earlier incarnation from the comics as a human with ape arms and feet.

psylockolussus
05-31-2011, 08:12 AM
I hope they tie X3 Beast and XFC Beast in.

Beast has to leave at some point.

Matt Mortem
05-31-2011, 10:42 AM
I want him in the sequel to FC and I want him to establish a relationship with characters like Storm and Cyclops and Jean. Then of course he can go off to do that government thing or whatever.

X-Maniac
05-31-2011, 11:06 AM
I would imagine that he would be in the sequel and then leave in the third (or even later) film, when they would introduce Storm and Jean and Cyclops.

No doubt they will create a dramatic reason for him leaving to pursue politics, it can't just be some random decision, it needs to mean something in the story.

psylockolussus
06-01-2011, 06:42 AM
Maybe he goes to the government because he wants to protect mutants after a terrible war between humans and mutants.

Ultimatehero
06-03-2011, 02:25 PM
Easily my favorite X-Men movie character next to Bobby. Having gone through many of the same feelings Hank does in the film, his arc is more than relatable.

Hank's whole journey typifies, or at least in my case, a gay or bi guy coming to terms with who he is. Within the community, everything you hear Hank talk about? A lot of guys, at least that I know, felt or said at some point. I'd say it more relates to being bi, since similarly he's afraid his mutation will scare girls away. Thus, his excitement over Mystique.

Great Mind(s)
06-03-2011, 02:36 PM
I didn't like how Beast sounded after he transformed. He like really looked like a guy on Halloween trying to talk through his mask.

MoPlaYa
06-03-2011, 04:57 PM
I loved Beast after he transformed but my complaint is they didnt show his beastly aglility

Marvin
06-04-2011, 05:15 PM
loved that this guy skipped his secondary mutation and went right into the third.

Doctor Jones
06-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Loved Hoult. Beast has always been my favorite character but in this he was my second behind Erik.

I'm looking forward to seeing him develop more in the sequels.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 05:33 PM
He was a freaking jerk with Raven. :(

Despite that I can't help but love this blue kitty bear. He's too awesome.

Drz
06-04-2011, 05:42 PM
He was a freaking jerk with Raven. :(


Yeah granted he seemed abit unsocial nerd, but man thats not how you treat a lady!

ALP
06-04-2011, 05:46 PM
I loved Hoult. By the pics and even brief glimpses in the trailer, I didn't like the Beast look that much...thought the hair didn't look right. But in the film it looked great! Definitely better than the makeup job on Kelsey Grammar. It was the small touches like the animal nose, that sort of thing.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 05:47 PM
@Drz Especially with one who is that hot and putting out. Big fail on McCoy's part.

Specter313
06-04-2011, 05:48 PM
@Drz Especially with one who is that hot and putting out. Big fail on McCoy's part.

But he didn't find her blue form hot, the part that she wanted to be proud of and that she wanted him to accept.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 05:50 PM
But he didn't find her blue form hot, the part that she wanted to be proud of and that she wanted him to accept.

She was hot in both forms, I would have accepted her in a heartbeat. :wow: :hrt:

PWN3R
06-04-2011, 05:54 PM
I liked Beast's look, I just hope they fix some small things and make his mouth easier to emote. That shot of him doing a barrel roll with the x-jet was SICK. CGI?

Beast is going to be great in the sequels, can't wait to hear Hoult shouting out witty non-sense.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 05:56 PM
They definitely used a bit of CGI to help the emoting in the mouth area.

Especially when he growls and chokes Magneto and the scream during the barrel roll in the X-Jet like you mentioned.

It looked pretty good. Not sure why they didn't do the same for when he was talking.

Maybe not enough time or money.

I loved the look though. I really liked Kelsey's humanoid Beast but seeing kitty/bear Beast was definitely awesome to see on screen and my favorite of the two.

Blackman
06-04-2011, 06:00 PM
I loved Beast/Hoult. He was the man

SuperSoldier985
06-04-2011, 06:04 PM
After seeing this movie a third time, Beast's makeup, I think, looks as good, if not, better in this movie than in X3 only because he kinda looked more like a comic incarnation than in X3, where, as others said, looked like a guy in blue.

I also liked Hoult's voice post-transformation. It's a bit more gravely, but he still sounded himself.

I think Hoult was amazing in this movie and his scene with Raven over the cure was incredible.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 06:06 PM
The voice was digitally altered when he became Beast. That I found awesome.

It definitely added depth to the entire look.

Doctor Jones
06-04-2011, 06:29 PM
I would have toned down the look a bit. With the sequel I think they'll improve upon it. I felt it restricted him a bit too much though. I loved Grammer's Beast look. I like this one, but if next time they can make it work more then I'm good.

Silvermoth
06-04-2011, 07:39 PM
Nicholas Hoult, it goes without saying, is perfect in this. I really felt for him. What a great actor. My only complaint is I want him to say in the sequel "oh my stars and garters!":awesome:

Superhero 101
06-04-2011, 08:03 PM
What did Magneto say to Beast that made Beast Choke Magneto?

Deaths Head II
06-04-2011, 08:09 PM
What did Magneto say to Beast that made Beast Choke Magneto?

He said Beast "Never looked better." He was trying to support Beast like he did Mystique but Beast interpreted it as Magneto making fun of his appearance.

ALP
06-04-2011, 08:12 PM
It was Beast's uncontrollable urge so I just suspected he was acting irrational and could have gone off no matter what Magneto said.

craigdbfan
06-04-2011, 08:14 PM
I thought Havok was going to get choked out too when he named him Beast. :funny:

ALP
06-04-2011, 08:16 PM
Is Beast gonna have to choke a b****!

Matt Mortem
06-04-2011, 09:40 PM
Beast is tied with Magneto as my favorite part of FC. It also helps that Beast is my favorite Marvel character. I'm just so damn happy

Marx
06-04-2011, 09:59 PM
I really enjoyed Beast in this one. I still prefer Kelsey Grammar's 'look' though.

BMM
06-04-2011, 10:03 PM
I thought Hoult was great, though I would like it if they improved the make-up.

Matt Mortem
06-04-2011, 11:16 PM
The make-up does need some improvement to allow for more emoting, but other than that I thought Beast was PERFECT

A Necessary Evil
06-05-2011, 12:26 AM
Beast is tied with Magneto as my favorite part of FC. It also helps that Beast is my favorite Marvel character. I'm just so damn happy

Beast was never in my top ten, I liked him, but in this movie, damn I just loved him oh so much.

Ultimatehero
06-05-2011, 01:56 AM
He was a freaking jerk with Raven. :(

I interpreted this as coming out of his own low self-esteem. He saw Raven as someone who finally got him, someone who didn't want to be a 'freak' either because society won't accept them. When she turned on him, he naturally felt betrayed and lashed back at her.

Hellion
06-05-2011, 01:58 AM
I really enjoyed Beast in this one. I still prefer Kelsey Grammar's 'look' though.

I really enjoyed both, I can't decide, and won't......again, I'm happy we have to takes on film of the character :woot:

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-05-2011, 02:08 AM
Beast was my second favorite character, right behind Magneto. I don't know who this Hoult guy is, but he did a great job. I related to Hank more than any other of the X-Men.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 02:16 AM
Both look like Beast and I'm grateful we've gotten both Humanoid and Kitty/Bear beast.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33828/690703-112716_17727_beast_super_super.jpghttp://comicsworthreading.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/beast.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7ewh1KyGd1qzms24.jpghttp://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Beast%20Hoult%20First%20Class.jpg

Cheshire1996
06-05-2011, 02:55 AM
I thought he looked incredible, Hoult did an exceptional job. I have to agree with the reviews that say he's something of a semi-tragic character...but I guess that's what happens when you offend Mystique XD
But seriously, amazing performance, can't wait to see hmm in a possible sequel.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:24 AM
I agree that X3 Beast was just Kelsey Grammar in blue paint. If it wasn't for the actor underneath the paint I doubt most people would be as kind towards that Beast's makeup job.

Kelsey Grammer's entire head from the neck up was covered in prosthetics, much more than just blue paint, from the looks just as much as this Beast was. At least KG's speaking was not restricted, something a few of you claim with this version, which I do not agree with. And I do not think there was any digital alterations to the mouth when he growled, he can open his mouth with appliances on.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:26 AM
He looks like the Wolfman to me

Well, it was done by Dave Elsey who just got the make-up Oscar for THE WOLFMAN [along with Rick Baker] - and I am sure that's why they hired him [not because he won, but because he had worked on WM].

Ajendo
06-05-2011, 06:27 AM
Hoult looks like a younger James Marsden but he was brilliant as was every one else.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 06:31 AM
Kelsey Grammer's entire head from the neck up was covered in prosthetics, much more than just blue paint, from the looks just as much as this Beast was. At least KG's speaking was not restricted, something a few of you claim with this version, which I do not agree with. And I do not think there was any digital alterations to the mouth when he growled, he can open his mouth with appliances on.

You may not think it is but watch it again. There is definitely some CGI at play.

I can't wait until the blu ray comes out and I hope they do a somewhat in depth behind the scenes on how they made Beast come to life in First Class.

Definitely recommend for you to re watch the film and take a closer look at the facial movements when he chokes Magneto and dose the wide mouth yell inside the X-Wing.

There are instances in where he is "normally" talking and they leave it be and you see the constrictions of the make up and prosthetics. By the way Grammers weren't nearly as extensive as those that Hoult is sporting.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:31 AM
Both look like Beast and I'm grateful we've gotten both Humanoid and Kitty/Bear beast.

you do realize that the Jim Lee Beast illo is the same Beast as seen in the cartoon frame above it - now you need to find an example of the Cat Beast.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 06:33 AM
you do realize that the Jim Lee Beast illo is the same Beast as seen in the cartoon frame above it - now you need to find an example of the Cat Beast.

I realize that it's an adaptation which completely looks different from the Jim Lee's illustrations. You're the one that needs to pay attention, the Beast drawn by Jim is far more cat and animal like than 90's toon version which humanized his face for kids and changed the hairstyle as well.

The fact that you consider it a direct adaptation is showing your lack in observation.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:37 AM
You may not think it is but watch it again. There is definitely some CGI at play.

I can't wait until the blu ray comes out and I hope they do a somewhat in depth behind the scenes on how they made Beast come to life in First Class.

Definitely recommend for you to re watch the film and take a closer look at the facial movements when he chokes Magneto and dose the wide mouth yell inside the X-Wing.

There are instances in where he is "normally" talking and they leave it be and you see the constrictions of the make up and prosthetics. By the way Grammers weren't nearly as extensive as those that Hoult is sporting.

I am sure they could have enhanced it a little with CGI, but it just looked like they told him to open his mouth wider to me. Grammer's appliances do not look as thick at Hoult's, but they covered the same areas - neck, head, forehead, entire face, nose, lips, etc. - look at a photo of Grammer in and out of make-up, maybe his lower lip is not covered, but that's it.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 06:38 AM
By the way Jim Lee vs 90's animated, you're going to really tell me these two are the same? :funny:

http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/beast.gif

http://animatedviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/xmen5-3.jpg

An adaptation and based on the Jim Lee designs, most definitely. If they look anything alike, not at all.

Hoult's Beast resembles Lee's far more. Grammer's Beast was a clear ode to humanoid beast and there's no doubt there.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:42 AM
I realize that it's an adaptation which completely looks different from the Jim Lee's illustrations. You're the one that needs to pay attention, the Beast drawn by Jim is far more cat and animal like than 90's toon version which humanized his face for kids and changed the hairstyle as well.

The fact that you consider it a direct adaptation is showing your lack in observation.

All I was pointing out is that the Jim Lee Beast shown was drawn YEARS before the cat mutation concept was introduced into the comics, and that both illos are based upon the SAME version of the Beast, just different artists take on it.

Almost ALL the cat Beast's I have seen in the comics look like crap, and even thought that's what the director wanted for this X-MEN movie, I am happy to see the make-up artist ignored most of that input.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:45 AM
By the way Jim Lee vs 90's animated, you're going to really tell me these two are the same? :funny:

http://ramascreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/beast.gif

http://animatedviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/xmen5-3.jpg

An adaptation and based on the Jim Lee designs, most definitely. If they look anything alike, not at all.

Hoult's Beast resembles Lee's far more. Grammer's Beast was a clear ode to humanoid beast and there's no doubt there.

YES, those are clearly meant to be the same version, just two different artists take on the character, one influenced by the extreme limitations of the cartoon medium, the other is not. Same nose, same hair, same big upper lip, same mutton chops, etc.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 06:48 AM
I am sure they could have enhanced it a little with CGI, but it just looked like they told him to open his mouth wider to me. Grammer's appliances do not look as thick at Hoult's, but they covered the same areas - neck, head, forehead, entire face, nose, lips, etc. - look at a photo of Grammer in and out of make-up, maybe his lower lip is not covered, but that's it.

You just pointed out the difference why it would be harder for Hoult to emulate...

Especially in the mouth area. This isn't even debatable. There's a complete heavy layer of skin mesh creating a full lip area with a division between his bottom nasal area to create the "cat" look and even gives him the underlip of a cat including the atypical second look of a felines lower lip. That's not even touching the work they did near the eye area to further enhance the look.

This would most definitely cause for complications in talking. It looked great nonetheless and I'm sure it'll be streamlined in the sequels but going back to Grammer he had a much easier setup to work with when talking in Last Stand.

Also just because they covered the same area doesn't mean its as intricate/complex, not in the slightest.

(for reference)
http://moviecarpet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/X-Men-First-Class-Beast.jpg

http://www.unificationfrance.com/IMG/jpg/x-men_3_beast_2.jpg

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 06:56 AM
I think the teeth probably gave him for talking trouble than the thickness shown above on the Prosthetics - it would have to be as thick as the original Planet of the Apes to have caused any real problems. The inner eye corners were a nice touch. Nice job!

Spider-ManHero12
06-05-2011, 07:06 AM
You may not think it is but watch it again. There is definitely some CGI at play.

I can't wait until the blu ray comes out and I hope they do a somewhat in depth behind the scenes on how they made Beast come to life in First Class.

Definitely recommend for you to re watch the film and take a closer look at the facial movements when he chokes Magneto and dose the wide mouth yell inside the X-Wing.

There are instances in where he is "normally" talking and they leave it be and you see the constrictions of the make up and prosthetics. By the way Grammers weren't nearly as extensive as those that Hoult is sporting. Agreed! I'm in no way bashing Grammar's Beast. I thought he did an incredible job, but I lalso thought Beast in First CLass was great. Both are equally as good.

Speaking of "Cat" Beast, if I rmeember correctly, doesn't he look somewhat like that in the comics nows? Or back in the early days of the Astonishing X-Men series.

antariss
06-05-2011, 07:14 AM
I don't think its as simple to call XFC's Beast 'Cat-Beast' as to me he does look like classic blue Beast but the more extreme version like Jim Lee's(as mentioned ) and John Byrne's take. It seems like blue Beast was always a mixture of simian and feline/canine traits which makes his mutation more interesting. He looks a bit like a werewolf. The Grant Morrison Cat Beast look nothing like this movies Beast, notably lacking the feline ears which are a big part of a cat, the segmented nose and furry face which like an ape is flesh like.

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 07:20 AM
Yeah ever since his second mutation was triggered he's looked like a feline and has varied in extremity depending on the artist really.

Hoult's Beast is definitely a mixture of both while still keeping some of the simian details while merging it with the cat form. BMM did a good picture example:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2991/beastcomparison2.jpg

craigdbfan
06-05-2011, 07:23 AM
I don't think its as simple to call XFC's Beast 'Cat-Beast' as to me he does look like classic blue Beast but the more extreme version like Jim Lee's(as mentioned ) and John Byrne's take. It seems like blue Beast was always a mixture of simian and feline/canine traits which makes his mutation more interesting. He looks a bit like a werewolf. The Grant Morrison Cat Beast look nothing like this movies Beast, notably lacking the feline ears which are a big part of a cat, the segmented nose and furry face which like an ape is flesh like.

Exactly. Its definitely a mixture but the comparison with cat beast ends at the mouth area everything else is a hyper realized version of Lee's/Byrne's and the take of other artist took pre-cat beast era. I completely agree.

Spider-ManHero12
06-05-2011, 07:28 AM
Yeah ever since his second mutation was triggered he's looked like a feline and has varied in extremity depending on the artist really.

Hoult's Beast is definitely a mixture of both while still keeping some of the simian details while merging it with the cat form. BMM did a good picture example:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2991/beastcomparison2.jpg Indeed. I was only asking because I gave up on reading X-Men comics (due to money issues. Only read SPidey and Avengers now) back in 2009.

bubbadoom
06-05-2011, 07:55 AM
The cats on the right are what Mathew V. has wanted since X3, thank god the make-up artist was able to steer him away from that. I much prefer the simian look on the left, the basis for the Grammer Beast. BOTH movie versions looks fine to me.

Kabuki_Jo
06-05-2011, 10:05 AM
Movie was much better than I expected (thank god Singer didn't direct), but Beast looked absolutely horrible. Kelsey's Beast looked much, much better. This one looked like a guy in a teddybear suit.

I totally agree with you.

SuperSoldier985
06-05-2011, 11:24 AM
Damn.

Agree to disagree to both of you.

And for the record, they both looked like guys in teddybear suits. :o

X-Maniac
06-05-2011, 11:27 AM
Beast is difficult to pull off in live-action. You either get total CGI that could look iffy or you get make-up, which others don't like.

I thought both versions in both films looked fine. Neither had me in meltdown mode.

RachelDawes
06-05-2011, 11:38 AM
I hope Beast inherited a little of Mystique's shape-changing abilities when he injected her cells into himself. I want to see more Nicholas Hoult. :hrt:

Hypestyle
06-05-2011, 11:40 AM
... so hank never got the chance to make out with raven? but magnus does? that sucks..

Deaths Head II
06-05-2011, 11:45 AM
... so hank never got the chance to make out with raven? but magnus does? that sucks..

Well he pretty much ruined his chances by himself.

SuperSoldier985
06-05-2011, 11:46 AM
He needs a love interest in the next movie, I'd say...

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-05-2011, 11:52 AM
Hmmm, that makes me want the new member to be a female.

ALP
06-05-2011, 11:54 AM
It's a sausage fest now, the new member should definitely be female. Apparently all the women prefer Magneto.

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-05-2011, 11:56 AM
It's the helmet. :o

Deaths Head II
06-05-2011, 12:07 PM
It's a sausage fest now, the new member should definitely be female. Apparently all the women prefer Magneto.

Who would be a good hook up with Hank though? I would actually love Polaris so Havok can get some action...

Pink Ranger
06-05-2011, 05:20 PM
Seriously, at this point who wouldn't want to join Magneto's team vs. Xavier's? Magneto's got all the beautiful women and the cooler fashions.

Pink Ranger
06-05-2011, 05:23 PM
He needs a love interest in the next movie, I'd say...

When Beast became older and more confident, especially when he left the X-men and became an Avenger, he seemed pretty handy with the ladies. I wouldn't worry about his chances, even with non-mutant women. :up:

Sun_Down
06-05-2011, 06:44 PM
I wish there would've been more room to play around with Beast's insecurities and transformation. It felt too sudden to just have him show up in the hangar and boom - everyone just accepts it.

Groovetopia
06-05-2011, 06:54 PM
I wish there would've been more room to play around with Beast's insecurities and transformation. It felt too sudden to just have him show up in the hangar and boom - everyone just accepts it.

I feel the same way. I wish it wouldn't have been a instant transformation. I wish it was a gradual process that maybe even lasted more than one movie, that showed more and more changes, kind of like a less creepy and disgusting version of The Fly.

Sun_Down
06-05-2011, 06:57 PM
I feel the same way. I wish it wouldn't have been a instant transformation. I wish it was a gradual process that maybe even lasted more than one movie, that showed more and more changes, kind of like a less creepy and disgusting version of The Fly.

I'm not saying that, I just would've liked a little time for it to breathe. Maybe he avoids the team for a while and Mystique talks him into "coming out". Dragging it out over 2 films would be excessive.

Deaths Head II
06-05-2011, 07:40 PM
I thought Beast's transformation was well done but I agree the aftermath should have been longer. Having it right before they go to Cuba and having him meet them at the hanger was a mistake, IMO.

SuperSoldier985
06-05-2011, 08:04 PM
It would've been too much to stop the movie for that.

I didn't even think about it needing more time to dwell on it. It's something to be saved for a sequel.

Matt Mortem
06-05-2011, 08:33 PM
After watching this a second time, I still love how well done Beast was. His prosthetic didn't even bug me as much the second time around. Love love love what they did with the character

Timstuff
06-06-2011, 11:23 AM
If you compare Beast in XFC with Beast in X3, the characterization actually lines up well. In XFC we learn that Hank has worked with the government in the past so it makes sense that he ends up working for the Department of Mutant Affairs in X3, and they also established his desire to look "normal" in XFC which carries over into X3. They even had a comment in X3 when he puts on his old uniform that it's "a bit smaller than I remember" which is actually great, since in XFC we can actually see that Beast was slimmer when he was younger. The only potential inconistency is that in XFC, Beast looks slightly more animalistic in the face than he does in X3, however this can be chocked up to a variety of factors, one of which being that during the decades between XFC and X3 the effects of the serum may have lessened slightly, making things such as his animal-like lips fade. At any rate that is a pretty minor inconsistency in what is overall a very consistent portrayal between the two films.

Matt Mortem
06-06-2011, 11:26 AM
If you compare Beast in XFC with Beast in X3, the characterization actually lines up well. In XFC we learn that Hank has worked with the government in the past so it makes sense that he ends up working for the Department of Mutant Affairs in X3, and they also established his desire to look "normal" in XFC which carries over into X3. They even had a comment in X3 when he puts on his old uniform that it's "a bit smaller than I remember" which is actually great, since in XFC we can actually see that Beast was slimmer when he was younger. The only potential inconistency is that in XFC, Beast looks slightly more animalistic in the face than he does in X3, however this can be chocked up to a variety of factors, one of which being that during the decades between XFC and X3 the effects of the serum may have lessened slightly, making things such as his animal-like lips fade. At any rate that is a pretty minor inconsistency in what is overall a very consistent portrayal between the two films.
I agree. Beast is one of the characters to get the best characterization in the franchise. It does line up well, as you pointed out.

Sun_Down
06-06-2011, 02:41 PM
If you compare Beast in XFC with Beast in X3, the characterization actually lines up well. In XFC we learn that Hank has worked with the government in the past so it makes sense that he ends up working for the Department of Mutant Affairs in X3, and they also established his desire to look "normal" in XFC which carries over into X3. They even had a comment in X3 when he puts on his old uniform that it's "a bit smaller than I remember" which is actually great, since in XFC we can actually see that Beast was slimmer when he was younger. The only potential inconistency is that in XFC, Beast looks slightly more animalistic in the face than he does in X3, however this can be chocked up to a variety of factors, one of which being that during the decades between XFC and X3 the effects of the serum may have lessened slightly, making things such as his animal-like lips fade. At any rate that is a pretty minor inconsistency in what is overall a very consistent portrayal between the two films.

Very true, his characterization in XFC and X3 lines up quite well.

Hellion
06-06-2011, 06:53 PM
Both look like Beast and I'm grateful we've gotten both Humanoid and Kitty/Bear beast.


agreed

Spider-Fan83
06-06-2011, 06:56 PM
I don't know if these have ever been posted, but, just came across them..
(I guess, now that the movie is out, the concept artiest are able start releasing there work)
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from the website of concept artiest, Howard Swindell...
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4743/hankbeast1.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/hankbeast1.jpg/)http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1049/hankbeast2.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/hankbeast2.jpg/)

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3972/hankbeast3.jpg (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/hankbeast3.jpg/)http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2648/hankbeast4.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/hankbeast4.jpg/)

Doctor Jones
06-06-2011, 07:02 PM
Beast's silhouette when he was walking up to the camera for his reveal makes me chuckle.

Just his puffy arms.

Kokomo29
06-07-2011, 12:29 AM
I think one of my favorite scenes in the movie was a very short scene of Beast in the X-Jet. The camera was facing him in the cockpit head-on and Beast let out this fearsome roar! It was sooooo cool!!!

psylockolussus
06-07-2011, 01:42 AM
He looks like an angry scary cat!

Damn I wish they sticked to his X3 look!

Cheshire1996
06-07-2011, 01:54 AM
Setting aside portrayal and blue fur, the human First Class Hank was pretty cute. I liked his glasses.

Kokomo29
06-07-2011, 02:42 AM
Being that Beast is my all-time favorite X-Men character, I was very pleased with how he was handled in the new movie. We actually got to see a (very much toned down) ape-like Hank McCoy in human form and a very feral animal form. I was very pleased with his characterization and his role in the film. Bravo.

flickchick85
06-07-2011, 02:51 AM
I was distracted by how much Nicholas Hoult looked like James Marsden's little brother to me. I kept thinking, 'Why wasn't HE cast as Cyclops' brother? It's so obvious!'

EnDz0n3
06-07-2011, 02:56 AM
Beast's silhouette when he was walking up to the camera for his reveal makes me chuckle.

Just his puffy arms.

The reveal made me snicker too (in a bad way). The think i noticed was the hair on the back of his neck sticking out of the collar...what was up with that? :huh:

That said, Nicolas Hoult as human Beast was good.

henzINNIT
06-08-2011, 01:30 AM
I was disappointed in Hoult if I'm honest. For some reason I expected to love him, but there's nothing this kid did that made me over-look the fact that he was a mis-cast physically. I didn't buy that Hank was so deeply ashamed of... his feet... that fit... fine... in shoes...

Deaths Head II
06-08-2011, 10:48 AM
Hank and Mystique both were easily able to hide their mutations. Them wanting to get rid of them is more of a sign of their insecurities and desire to be like everyone else.

SuperSoldier985
06-08-2011, 12:13 PM
I was disappointed in Hoult if I'm honest. For some reason I expected to love him, but there's nothing this kid did that made me over-look the fact that he was a mis-cast physically.
You preferred a much more muscle-bound Hank I presume?

Midnight Black
06-08-2011, 02:47 PM
I liked Hoult he did a good job, but I'v always wanted to see an ape like brute beast with a gentle intellectual side before the blue transformation. That's what I was hoping for.

I thought the Hoult pre-blue beast was good, but could have shown him doing some more acrobatics. Still kind of iffy on the whole runny fast sequence because he has hands on his feet. Yeah beast is quick, but I don't know about quick silver fast.

Also, he didn't have the beast strength. Beast in the comics pre-blue had agility, dexterity, and strength and intellect. This beast had mainly intellect and just hand feet, no long arms, slouched posture nothing. I can live with it because Hoult did a good job though.

Matt Mortem
06-08-2011, 04:31 PM
I liked Hoult he did a good job, but I'v always wanted to see an ape like brute beast with a gentle intellectual side before the blue transformation. That's what I was hoping for.

I thought the Hoult pre-blue beast was good, but could have shown him doing some more acrobatics. Still kind of iffy on the whole runny fast sequence because he has hands on his feet. Yeah beast is quick, but I don't know about quick silver fast.

Also, he didn't have the beast strength. Beast in the comics pre-blue had agility, dexterity, and strength and intellect. This beast had mainly intellect and just hand feet, no long arms, slouched posture nothing. I can live with it because Hoult did a good job though.

I agree with you. Beast was really good, but he wasn't perfect

Midnight Black
06-08-2011, 09:47 PM
Yeah, I still don't get the whole running fast thing. Unless they swapped the strength for speed, then I guess that could work.

craigdbfan
06-08-2011, 09:50 PM
Um superhuman speed has always been part of his abilities including with strength.

Nothing was swapped, he has both.

Midnight Black
06-08-2011, 11:37 PM
Um superhuman speed has always been part of his abilities including with strength.

Nothing was swapped, he has both.

I don't remember them saying anything about superhuman speed in the comics, just strength. I guess I could be wrong.

As for his strength in the movie. I don't remember hearing or seeing anything about it.

Yeah, he is quick, but I always thought he was just fast/quick because he was agile like Nightcrawler not fast as in Quick Silver.

JP
06-08-2011, 11:40 PM
Hank has superhuman strength and agility.

Rowsdower!
06-08-2011, 11:43 PM
I thought he did a great job. Only one thing that bugged me... does anyone else think he looks almost exactly like James Marsden? In my head, I kept thinking "Cyclops" throughout the movie.

SuperSoldier985
06-08-2011, 11:45 PM
Hank has superhuman strength and agility.
Agility and speed almost always go hand in hand.

Midnight Black
06-08-2011, 11:52 PM
Agility and speed almost always go hand in hand.

Yes and no. Agility means someone is quick and fast in regards to their reflexes, but not fast in running like the flash.

I would say Nightcrawler is quick but not necessary fast.

DarknessOfDeath
06-09-2011, 12:47 AM
While I like him as Hank McCoy/Beast, Nicholas reminded me of a young Scott Summers. Was I the only one who felt this way?

Rowsdower!
06-09-2011, 12:48 AM
While I like him as Hank McCoy/Beast, Nicholas reminded me of a young Scott Summers. Was I the only one who felt this way?

Yep, see my above comment. I think it's just because he looked so much like Marsden.

craigdbfan
06-09-2011, 01:03 AM
I don't remember them saying anything about superhuman speed in the comics, just strength. I guess I could be wrong.

Yeah, he is quick, but I always thought he was just fast/quick because he was agile like Nightcrawler not fast as in Quick Silver.

He most definitely has superhuman speed its actually been said several times over the years in the comics.

The first one going into detail being this issue:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070621062612/marveldatabase/images/thumb/5/54/Amazing_Adventures_Vol_2_11.jpg/300px-Amazing_Adventures_Vol_2_11.jpg

Beast can run and move at speeds that are slightly beyond the natural physical limits of the finest human athlete. He can run at speeds up to 40 miles an hour over short distances, particularly if he runs on all fours.

As for his strength in the movie. I don't remember hearing or seeing anything about it.

His strength is displayed in the battle with Azazel who is incredibly strong himself. Beast with agility and strength knocks him out with one claw/punch to his chest.

After mutating into his simian form, and after this mutation eventually stabilized, his strength was increased to the point where he could lift about 10 tons, which was sufficient to smash through a brick wall with a single punch and to tie an iron barbell into a knot.

Carlo Comicus
06-09-2011, 04:27 AM
http://www.comicus.it/blog/movie-comics/item/49173-nicholas-hoult-risponde-ai-lettori-di-comicus

Nicholas Hoult answers to italian x-fans

chamber-music
06-09-2011, 04:33 AM
Usain Bolt runs at 23 miles per hour over 100/200 metres so Beast running at 40 miles per hour isn't a huge stretch. Its not quicksilver or northstar superspeed

Midnight Black
06-09-2011, 11:02 AM
He most definitely has superhuman speed its actually been said several times over the years in the comics.

The first one going into detail being this issue:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070621062612/marveldatabase/images/thumb/5/54/Amazing_Adventures_Vol_2_11.jpg/300px-Amazing_Adventures_Vol_2_11.jpg

His strength is displayed in the battle with Azazel who is incredibly strong himself. Beast with agility and strength knocks him out with one claw/punch to his chest.

Okay, I guess. If it's in the comics:whatever:. Na just kidding. I buy that. But they still didn't show him doing anything beast like other than the running. They could have had him wear a body suit or something to give him size, but oh well. Hoult was good so I can overlook this.

X-Maniac
06-09-2011, 11:05 AM
Okay, I guess. If it's in the comics:whatever:. Na just kidding. I buy that. But they still didn't show him doing anything beast like other than the running. They could have had him wear a body suit or something to give him size, but oh well. Hoult was good so I can overlook this.

Hoult is 6ft 2. And he did wear a bodysuit. Plus, he lifted Magneto up by the neck...

Midnight Black
06-09-2011, 11:14 AM
Hoult is 6ft 2. And he did wear a bodysuit. Plus, he lifted Magneto up by the neck...

I don't mean size as in height I mean as in width and made him slouch similar to the comic character. Also, wearing a body suit pre-blue. Did he lift Magneto up or just choke him and drop him? I can't remember. In the end I am fine with what was portrayed. I just think that they diluted the character as with others a tad bit.

psylockolussus
06-10-2011, 02:58 AM
Hoult is 6ft 2. And he did wear a bodysuit. Plus, he lifted Magneto up by the neck...

Wow no idea he is that tall.

X-Maniac
06-10-2011, 04:38 AM
I don't mean size as in height I mean as in width and made him slouch similar to the comic character. Also, wearing a body suit pre-blue. Did he lift Magneto up or just choke him and drop him? I can't remember. In the end I am fine with what was portrayed. I just think that they diluted the character as with others a tad bit.

I think he lifted him off the ground...

But as for making Beast even more animal or ape-like, with long arms and slouching, that has the potential to look a bit crappy, like Mr Hyde in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

I liked it when he roared while flying the jet out of danger. I didn't much care for the 'reveal' scene where he walked out of the light, i would have liked something else like them finding him cowering in the wreckage of the lab and talking to him about what happened...

henzINNIT
06-10-2011, 05:41 AM
You preferred a much more muscle-bound Hank I presume?

Just a guy who looks like he has something to be ashamed of would have sufficed. He was just a pretty-boy with ugly feet lol, my mrs disliked the character because he was "so whiney over nothing". While I wouldn't go that far, I do think he came off wrong complaining next to Raven when the poor girl is blue and scally.

Midnight Black
06-10-2011, 11:48 AM
I think he lifted him off the ground...

But as for making Beast even more animal or ape-like, with long arms and slouching, that has the potential to look a bit crappy, like Mr Hyde in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

I liked it when he roared while flying the jet out of danger. I didn't much care for the 'reveal' scene where he walked out of the light, i would have liked something else like them finding him cowering in the wreckage of the lab and talking to him about what happened...

Really you didn't like Mr. Hyde? I thought it was done well and different. Could have used more CGI in some scenes to show movement, but I thought they achieved their purpose well.


Just a guy who looks like he has something to be ashamed of would have sufficed. He was just a pretty-boy with ugly feet lol, my mrs disliked the character because he was "so whiney over nothing". While I wouldn't go that far, I do think he came off wrong complaining next to Raven when the poor girl is blue and scally.

Exactly. The dude only had ugly hand-feet. Which were actually pretty cool. Here he is complaining and this chick is blue with no nipples and vajayjay. Man get over yourself. Hmmm let me see...super smarts and hand feet that allow me to run fast and hold onto things or normal feet and the risk of being an "average" intellect man. I think I'll take hand-feet.

Yeah, they should have made him look more ape like or buff or something.

Bruce Malone
06-13-2011, 06:12 AM
How did you like the depiction of beast going from this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Beast_Last_Stand.jpeg to this? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eyHPFeibu-8/TeOhFL7j0JI/AAAAAAAAAaU/p8Viosj7Hxo/s1600/beast.jpg

BMM
06-13-2011, 06:16 AM
Because he looks like more of a beast. Too bad he doesn't look that good in the movie, though.

X-Maniac
06-13-2011, 06:47 AM
Because he looks like more of a beast. Too bad he doesn't look that good in the movie, though.

I thought the look was fine...except when they are first standing together on the beach, his face was too much of a pale blue, didn't seem to match the other shots... I prefer the darker blue.

henzINNIT
06-13-2011, 07:33 AM
I don't mind the inconsistancy, but I'm disappointed in this new version. I was fine with the TLS look and expected something cooler considering the 5 years of effects progress. It wasn't that bad though.

AVEITWITHJAMON
06-13-2011, 07:48 AM
I thought Beast was great in the movie, Hoult did a good job and the suit was awesome once he changed, loved his fight with Azazel as well.

Angamb
06-13-2011, 09:23 AM
While I like him as Hank McCoy/Beast, Nicholas reminded me of a young Scott Summers. Was I the only one who felt this way?

I thought about that the day he was announced to be on First Class.

But there are more young actors out there that can be a good Cyclops too. Its not a hard role to cast at all.

WeasleyIsRKing
06-13-2011, 10:28 AM
I thought Hoult was great at portraying Hank at his most vulnerable stage in life. He was completely unsure of himself. He had trouble figuring out what he wanted, and once he figured it out actually pursuing it. He developed the "cure" because he was so unsure and uncomfortable in himself. Thought Hoult did a great job in showing all that emotion without ever actually having to say it. Looking forward to see where they take Beast/Hank in a possible FC sequel.

BMM
06-13-2011, 04:44 PM
I thought the look was fine...except when they are first standing together on the beach, his face was too much of a pale blue, didn't seem to match the other shots... I prefer the darker blue.

It's hit or miss for me. I really like how Beast looks in the international trailer, and there are a couple moments in the film I think he looks good (for instance, when Azazel has him pinned on the beach and is holding his tail just above Beast's eye). Then, there are other times I just don't care for it, like after Mystique says, "...mutant and proud."

Bruce Malone
06-13-2011, 05:06 PM
I know it's only a two hour movie or so but i thought the sped up transformation of hank in the movie was kind of off now that i think about it. When we first meet him he is obviously very consumed by his abnormally large feet, they're quite weird but there's worst "deformities" to have, then all of a sudden after the injection he transforms into this blue cat looking creature within the span of a few mins.

You'd think someone who was so paranoid/self conscience about having big feet would probably want to kill themselves after transforming into a blue cat creature within a couple of mins. There's no way he'd embrace his new form within a day or two or not at least not be incredibly traumatized.

Nathan
06-13-2011, 05:21 PM
I can imagine that's something they'd deal with in a sequel. But the next day, right after his transformation, they had to stop a nuclear war. There was just no time to mope around.

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-13-2011, 05:23 PM
Hank's transformation takes place deep into the film near the climax, so they didn't have time for him to mope and question whether or not he should continue to live. It doesn't look good on Hank's part to contemplate suicide anyway, since this new covert group needs him and accepts him no matter what he looks like.

If anything, it shows that Beast was able to put away his feelings about himself temporarily for the greater good. When a nuclear war is on the horizon and a club of evil mutants is bent on world domination, you gotta believe in that old saying, "Kick ass now, cry later."

Iceman
06-13-2011, 08:19 PM
The actor did very well. When I first saw Beast I wasn't too impressed. It was ok later but I think they can still improve on his look. I like seeing a more bestial Beast. If they can combine this look with KG's mature, dignified but completely non-bestial look I will be happy. Plus also give him some action scenes that require super agility.

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-14-2011, 12:29 AM
I think they should hire some parkour guy to do some stunts in the sequel.

Matt Mortem
06-14-2011, 12:32 AM
Parkour would be ideal for Beast. It's a very agile, athletic sport and thats ultimately what I want to see in Beast.

A Necessary Evil
06-14-2011, 12:40 AM
I thought about that the day he was announced to be on First Class.

But there are more young actors out there that can be a good Cyclops too. Its not a hard role to cast at all.

Still campaignin for Aaron Johnson

SuperSoldier985
06-14-2011, 01:01 AM
A rooftop chase scene with Beast would be amazing...I'd think a rudimentary version of the Danger Room is worth debuting in a sequel.

MilkmanDan
06-14-2011, 08:54 AM
I thought he did a great job. Only one thing that bugged me... does anyone else think he looks almost exactly like James Marsden? In my head, I kept thinking "Cyclops" throughout the movie.
Same here. It's not just the look either. It was also the way he played the character. That kind of stiff, awkward, self-doubting geekness is what I would have expected from a "young Scott" rather than from Hank who has traditionally been portrayed as a funny, outgoing fellow.

SuperSoldier985
06-14-2011, 09:26 AM
They had to play up that angle so that it would make sense for his reasoning to take the cure. If he was a more outgoing and confident and self-assured character, his insecurities about his physical appearance wouldn't have gelled as much.

josh8
06-16-2011, 04:31 AM
I liked the movie Beast except for a few nitpicks. He shouldn't have worn glasses. It's such a stereotype that geniuses must wear glasses, and since they made him a trained pilot in the movie as well, then he should never have needed them in the first place.

I get that they're trying to show the gentile beast with glasses, but they looked so much like prop toy glasses against his fur that it took away from the look.

Also, I wish his fur was a little less royal blue and that he didn't have that fur around his neck area. It was really distracting and looked like a shirt collar haha.

One last comment... it didn't really sound like Hoult's voice anymore after the transformation. If that was still his voice, that was pretty amazing.

Ponyboy
06-16-2011, 04:35 AM
Hank's transformation takes place deep into the film near the climax, so they didn't have time for him to mope and question whether or not he should continue to live. It doesn't look good on Hank's part to contemplate suicide anyway, since this new covert group needs him and accepts him no matter what he looks like.

If anything, it shows that Beast was able to put away his feelings about himself temporarily for the greater good. When a nuclear war is on the horizon and a club of evil mutants is bent on world domination, you gotta believe in that old saying, "Kick ass now, cry later."

Well put actually. I liked Hoult as Hank, and I think he's a talented young actor. He certainly played the role with conviction.

Blitzkrieg Bop
06-16-2011, 09:25 AM
I liked the movie Beast except for a few nitpicks. He shouldn't have worn glasses. It's such a stereotype that geniuses must wear glasses, and since they made him a trained pilot in the movie as well, then he should never have needed them in the first place.

I get that they're trying to show the gentile beast with glasses, but they looked so much like prop toy glasses against his fur that it took away from the look.

Comic Beast wears glasses all the time. First Class was just trying to be accurate to the look.

SuperSoldier985
06-16-2011, 09:36 AM
Yup. It was polarizing because here you have the most bizarre looking creature we've seen yet in the movie, wearing glasses. It'll look pretty silly to see on-screen and maybe even a bit jarring.

josh8
06-16-2011, 12:02 PM
Haha I know it's a nitpick, but if they wanted to have him with glasses, they should have been consistent. All of a sudden he doesn't need them while flying a jet?? At least have him wear goggles. I guess my main problem was that the glasses just looked so fake when they were on blue Beast.

psylockolussus
06-17-2011, 05:01 AM
Yeah Blue Beast didn't look good with glasses.

Spider-Fan83
06-17-2011, 06:51 PM
atleast not those glasses...

Project862006
06-21-2011, 03:05 PM
saw the film yesterday and Hoult was amazing he was the best of the young mutants imo

gkokujin
06-21-2011, 04:52 PM
apparently a pep talk from Xavier gives him superspeed.

X-Maniac
06-21-2011, 04:55 PM
apparently a pep talk from Xavier gives him superspeed.

Oh look! A Green Lantern worshipper has arrived...

craigdbfan
06-21-2011, 04:57 PM
apparently a pep talk from Xavier gives him superspeed.

He was a scientist and a wiz kid almost his entire life. I don't think he ever pushed himself in any physical endeavors.

It made sense within the context of the scenario.

gkokujin
06-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Oh look! A Green Lantern worshipper has arrived...

nein,

green lantern was a let down. I truly enjoyed FC, i just hate this portrayal of Hank. I'd rather him been "bulky" Kirby cartwheels out the frames guy than this cookie monster + kitty thing...

SuperSoldier985
06-21-2011, 05:01 PM
BUT HE UNLEASHED THE BEAST

:p

X-Maniac
06-21-2011, 05:16 PM
nein,

green lantern was a let down. I truly enjoyed FC, i just hate this portrayal of Hank. I'd rather him been "bulky" Kirby cartwheels out the frames guy than this cookie monster + kitty thing...

I see. Well, he didn't look like the hugely bulky comic book pre-blue version, for sure. But many of the characters in these films don't look EXACTLY like the comics.

For me, the portrayal worked on screen.

gkokujin
06-21-2011, 05:24 PM
i dont understand why they didnt give him the same look Kelsey Grammer had in X3. i liked that look significantly better.

Nathan
06-21-2011, 05:26 PM
He looked like a normal dude with too much hair. I like that First Class Beast is more beastly.

Matt Mortem
06-21-2011, 05:37 PM
I still want to see a more ape-like Beast

jacobed
06-21-2011, 05:38 PM
I definitely preferred this new Beast over the Kelsey Grammar Beast. I didn't like anything about the Grammar Beast except for the voice because Grammar's voice is just spot on perfect for Beast.

merbass
06-21-2011, 07:08 PM
I still want to see a more ape-like Beast

He just turned to Beast the night before, and if you watch B roll footage during the final scene with Charles and Moira, you can see him back to his human form playing with other X-men in the background.

Perhaps this is his early stage of transformation and it will be more and more apelike in the future.

Matt Mortem
06-21-2011, 07:10 PM
I'm hoping for more agile ape-like behavior in the future

PyroChamber
06-21-2011, 07:39 PM
It looks to me that when it comes to adapting Beast on screen, people tend to forget that Beast (whether furry or not) has always been a big guy.

AVEITWITHJAMON
06-28-2011, 09:36 AM
After viewing Fc again, one did I HUGELY preferred over the X3 version of Beast (which was practically the only good thing in X3 but not as good as the FC version IMO) was that Hoult made him more of, well, a Beast, he growled, roared, he was fast, agile, strong had a hell of a bad temper also, but still maintained his humanity. Hoult Beast was much more like the Beast from the cartoons for me, Grammar Beast just didnt seem animal like enough.

In other words, I was a huge fan of everything to do with Hoult Beast.

psylockolussus
06-29-2011, 05:35 AM
Kelsey Grammer growled too and he was spinning and jumping using his body during the final battle.

Zant
06-29-2011, 11:09 AM
Kelsey Grammer growled too and he was spinning and jumping using his body during the final battle.

Exactly,people are just hatin on Grammers version just because they did not like the movie .X men 3 beast looked a little better IMO

psylockolussus
06-30-2011, 04:20 AM
Yup he looked better than the cat Beast.

Hellion
06-30-2011, 11:16 AM
I enjoyed both versions, they were each unique and based on or drew inspiration from a distinct take of the character from the comics...but I do think Kelsey's Beast, they did do a little more of the physical stuff in the finale of The Last Stand, than with Hoult's Beast in the finale of First Class.

BMM
06-30-2011, 02:47 PM
I like that Beast uses his intelligence, when fighting Azazel. "Where you go, we go." Or something like that.

Ultimatehero
07-05-2011, 05:09 AM
Still my favorite character, one of my favorite characters ever. As a bi guy who tried to escape who I am, I can really understand Hank's search for a cure. Similarly found an amazing girl that's set my world and perception of things on fire a la Mystique and they've captured that beyond perfectly of two outsiders coming together:

Beast & Mystique music vid: (http://youtu.be/xLzPhPs1-RM)
http://youtu.be/xLzPhPs1-RM

EnDz0n3
07-08-2011, 05:49 PM
Before this movie I was really impressed with a couple of the shots of Hoult's make up as blue Beast (except for that first badly Photoshop comp'ed together group shot.) After this movie, I would rather take Grammar's "safe" Beast. Safe in regards to they didn't take big risk with the make up, just paint him blue, give him longer hair. Hoult's Beast make up was laughable at times, I was actually cringing in my seat with his first reveal in the hangar, and it looked like he was having a hard time speaking through all the make up and prosthetics. His actual transformation scene was good though.

psylockolussus
07-09-2011, 01:23 AM
He looked like a normal dude with too much hair. I like that First Class Beast is more beastly.

Blue Skin is not normal

For me X3 Beast looked better.

Blitzkrieg Bop
02-17-2012, 10:23 PM
Havok- Are you sure you can fly this thing?

Beast- Of course I can. I designed it.

:woot:

X-Maniac
02-18-2012, 07:05 PM
Maybe they will use more CGI for Beast in the next film. If they can render all those primates in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, they should be able to do one Beast!

His look was generally great in First Class, though it seemed a little inconsistent. i liked it best when he roared while piloting the jet. On the beach, his face seemed too pale a blue for my liking. And the 'reveal' scene walking through the white light didn't really work for me, it seemed a bit odd.

Mrs Vimes
02-19-2012, 02:01 AM
Beast's look is one thing I hope they fix if the character's in the sequel. I didn't mind the overall design but his face in the hangar scene barely moved. He's supposed to have turned into a blue furry thing, not a Hollywood botox victim ;)

psylockolussus
04-21-2012, 02:02 AM
Maybe they will use more CGI for Beast in the next film. If they can render all those primates in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, they should be able to do one Beast!

Yes, but I don't think the producers are into CGI when it comes to the look of the characters.

Mulholland '49
03-20-2013, 02:06 PM
Get Rick Baker to design Beast please. :)

Mad Ones
03-20-2013, 02:10 PM
They need to do something about Beast. The tried something new for First Class, but it didn't really work. It looked stiff, and Hoult seemed extremely uncomfortable. He kinda looked cross-eyed at certain parts. And he definitely didn't look very threatening.

Maybe I'm just bitter because I want regular Hoult back! :p

Duran Man
03-20-2013, 02:18 PM
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28900000/Hank-McCoy-hank-mccoy-beast-28940422-640-427.jpg?1363807956791http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28900000/Hank-McCoy-hank-mccoy-beast-28940422-640-427.jpg



"Do I make you horny, baby?"

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:30 PM
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28900000/Hank-McCoy-hank-mccoy-beast-28940422-640-427.jpg



"Do I make you horny, baby?"

As Magneto said in FC... "Kinky." :funny:

Va_G-5IZA7w

Mulholland '49
03-20-2013, 02:33 PM
I want the pointy ears to be more protruding this time as well, instead of being buried under the fur.

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:33 PM
They need to do something about Beast. The tried something new for First Class, but it didn't really work. It looked stiff, and Hoult seemed extremely uncomfortable. He kinda looked cross-eyed at certain parts. And he definitely didn't look very threatening.

Maybe I'm just bitter because I want regular Hoult back! :p

Cross-eyed Beast ftw

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo267o7eIZ1qgmv4ao1_500.gif

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:34 PM
I want the pointy ears to be more protruding this time as well, instead of being buried under the fur.


Meh, I'm fine if they keep them under the fur. Keep the pointy ears for Kurt.

BMM
03-20-2013, 02:35 PM
Yeah, they have to clean up Beast's look.

Duran Man
03-20-2013, 02:36 PM
Cross-eyed Beast ftw

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo267o7eIZ1qgmv4ao1_500.gif


He looks like this kid I used to know in school. He took the short bus home.

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:36 PM
I think it would be hilarious if they changed nothing at all for Beast.... Even keeping the speedy running he does in FC.

Mad Ones
03-20-2013, 02:37 PM
Haha so many good examples on this page already.

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:38 PM
He looks like this kid I used to know in school. He took the short bus home.


LOL, dude that's so f**ked up! I love it. "He took the short bus home." :lmao:

Beast looks like he just did a massive "no-no" in his pants and is satisfied with himself.




I can't tell you guys how excited I was to see Beast in FC... then we got... that. Soooo disappointing.

Matt Mortem
03-20-2013, 02:40 PM
I just wish they'd announce Kelsey Grammar for Days of Future Past. That'd make my day.

Mulholland '49
03-20-2013, 02:42 PM
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/MulhollandGeneral/X-MenBeast-2-1_zpscaa294fa.jpg

Derp

Norek
03-20-2013, 02:43 PM
I think it would be hilarious if they changed nothing at all for Beast.... Even keeping the speedy running he does in FC.

I lol'ed reading this comment and thinking about it. :funny:

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 02:49 PM
I lol'ed reading this comment and thinking about it. :funny:


Wouldn't it be hilarious? I'd laugh myself to tears. :csad:

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/MulhollandGeneral/X-MenBeast-2-1_zpscaa294fa.jpg

Derp

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/trolling%20gifs/grand/wut_lol_gif.gif

Norek
03-20-2013, 03:10 PM
He looks like this kid I used to know in school. He took the short bus home.

What the hell does that even mean? :funny:

Mulholland '49
03-20-2013, 04:50 PM
Cross-eyed Beast ftw

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo267o7eIZ1qgmv4ao1_500.gif

:funny: You sir, owe me a new keyboard.

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 04:52 PM
:pal:

Blame it on Beast!

ThePowerCosmic
03-20-2013, 04:53 PM
What the hell does that even mean? :funny:


The short bus is what the "special" kids take home from school.

Norek
03-20-2013, 04:58 PM
The short bus is what the "special" kids take home from school.

Well I guess we can then say that Beast is special in more ways than one. :funny:

Angamb
03-24-2013, 09:05 AM
NICHOLAS HOULT ADMITS HE'S 'BULKING UP' FOR X-MEN ROLE ON THE JONATHAN ROSS SHOW

http://www.sugarscape.com/main-topics/lads/843138/nicholas-hoult-admits-hes-bulking-xmen-role-jonathan-ross-show-pics

dont know if he really said that or not, but we'll find out soon, I guess

GuestStar2004
03-24-2013, 11:09 AM
they can improve on beasts look, seeing as its 10 years later, but i doubt they will change it to much

EnDz0n3
03-24-2013, 03:21 PM
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28900000/Hank-McCoy-hank-mccoy-beast-28940422-640-427.jpg?1363807956791http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28900000/Hank-McCoy-hank-mccoy-beast-28940422-640-427.jpg

Oh Vaughn...

psylockolussus
03-24-2013, 08:51 PM
That picture makes me cringe for some reason. I hope they make him more attractive.

terry78
03-24-2013, 09:11 PM
Haha, I busted out laughing as soon as I scrolled down.

ThePowerCosmic
03-24-2013, 11:17 PM
Oh Vaughn...


Lmao, for some reason this got me. You just sound so disappointed and you summed it up with two words in the perfect way.:lmao:


I should never look at a mutant in these X-Movies, and just bust out laughing from how ridiculous they look.

Vaughn really dropped the ball there.

EnDz0n3
03-24-2013, 11:43 PM
That picture makes me cringe for some reason. I hope they make him more attractive.

LOL what? "For some reason."

Lmao, for some reason this got me. You just sound so disappointed and you summed it up with two words in the perfect way.:lmao:


I should never look at a mutant in these X-Movies, and just bust out laughing from how ridiculous they look.

Vaughn really dropped the ball there.

You can just tell from the special features in the Blu-ray for FC that Vaughn sooo believed in every decision he made as far as Beast is concerned and you just gotta go "Seriously?" :cmad: I remember there was a portion in the Blu-ray of where he is asked about which fur they should go with and he picks the shoddiest-looking one and then you can't help question how the dude is in said position.

ThePowerCosmic
03-25-2013, 12:27 AM
You can just tell from the special features in the Blu-ray for FC that Vaughn sooo believed in every decision he made as far as Beast is concerned and you just gotta go "Seriously?" :cmad: I remember there was a portion in the Blu-ray of where he is asked about which fur they should go with and he picks the shoddiest-looking one and then you can't help question how the dude is in said position.


That is so sad. I wonder what Vaughn and everyone else, especially Hoult, thought at the movie premiere when they saw Beast.

I really want to see those special features now, so I can laugh.

marvelrobbins
03-25-2013, 12:32 AM
The thing Is with DOFP will Bryan Singer feel like he has to keep the first Class catbeast
look only done better or will he try to evolve beast look to something closer to Classic Beast seen In Last Stand.

ThePowerCosmic
03-25-2013, 12:36 AM
I don't think he will feel tied down to the design. Beast's look is always changing. But I'd be okay with cat beast again, just have him looking better than FC beast.

EnDz0n3
03-25-2013, 01:08 AM
Considering this will be 11 years later, that's excuse enough to "evolve" Beast's look.

Mrs Vimes
03-25-2013, 02:35 AM
I had no problem with the design for Beast in FC, it just bugged me how immobile his face was.

Matt Mortem
03-25-2013, 12:57 PM
I had no problem with the design for Beast in FC, it just bugged me how immobile his face was.

That was my problem too. In still photographs, it doesn't look too bad, but the lack of motion during the film just annoyed the hell out of me.

ThePowerCosmic
03-25-2013, 08:13 PM
He looks so cross-eyed in this picture. :lmao:

http://igorstudios.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Beast-posed.jpg

Like Debo from Friday.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li8nljOJxf1qag1lr.jpg

craigdbfan
03-25-2013, 09:35 PM
I loved how Beast looked like in First Class. He was one of my favorite parts of the whole movie.

I'd be really sad to see the whole kitty Beast look go away in DOFP. :(

DarknessOfDeath
03-25-2013, 10:49 PM
Digging ur avatar, Craig. lol. Badass. Hell ya.

Anyway... I wonder how different beast will look in DOFP.

Hawkingbird
03-29-2013, 08:49 AM
I think they'll connect his two looks by having him being more evolved.

747
03-29-2013, 09:06 AM
I'm a fan of the kitty style Beast, just not the execution in First Class.

EnDz0n3
04-05-2013, 12:48 PM
OMFG

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y489/nnezzo/BHGv8ktCYAAlKy3_zps05647b96.jpg

JP
04-05-2013, 12:51 PM
Crying. It's like if First Class Beast and X3 Beast had a love child.

Norek
04-05-2013, 12:56 PM
Crying. It's like if First Class Beast and X3 Beast had a love child.

Exactly. :funny:

EnDz0n3
04-05-2013, 12:57 PM
He looks to be sporting the "Wolverine" hair that he does in the comics too :)

Matt Mortem
04-05-2013, 01:20 PM
It looks to be heading in a direction that'll actually ****ing work on screen.

Angamb
04-05-2013, 01:20 PM
He looks to be sporting the "Wolverine" hair that he does in the comics too :)yes, thats what I felt too!!! I hope so!!

J.Howlett
04-05-2013, 01:23 PM
The thing Is with DOFP will Bryan Singer feel like he has to keep the first Class catbeast
look only done better or will he try to evolve beast look to something closer to Classic Beast seen In Last Stand.

Evolve to look more like Beast from the Last Stand. This is what the picture tells me.

JP
04-05-2013, 01:23 PM
CAN WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE YELLOW SUIT!!!! :wow:

747
04-05-2013, 01:24 PM
New Beast look, looks very promising!

Iceman
04-05-2013, 01:24 PM
Absolutely amazing!!

Unlike with the looks for the other 2 Beasts I have no negatives. It's just awesome!

Figs
04-05-2013, 01:27 PM
Great picture! Although it's not his full face, you can still see what an improvement it is over First Class beast.

ThePowerCosmic
04-05-2013, 01:30 PM
Guess he's pulling a Marc Webb with this one and only showing us a glimpse of the new look for the new movie, like Webb did for the new Spidey suit. I like what I'm seeing so far. Looks like his ears are covered as well.

Seen
04-05-2013, 01:33 PM
Bryan Singer, I love you.

Beast looks amazing for once.

EnDz0n3
04-05-2013, 01:33 PM
Webb's updates are soooo boring :(

Probably coz I wasn't a fan of ASM...

Angamb
04-05-2013, 01:34 PM
CAN WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE YELLOW SUIT!!!! :wow:

to me it looks more like Nich skin

ThePowerCosmic
04-05-2013, 01:36 PM
It would be cool if Beast actually used that line in that movie. We know he likes to read, so quoting a line from Beauty and the Beast would fit his character.

James_Smith
04-05-2013, 01:38 PM
to me it looks more like Nich skin

I thought so too at first, but it does look very yellow...

Mad Ones
04-05-2013, 01:46 PM
That picture of Beast is perfect! Though I was hoping for a darker shade of blue. But still!

Angamb
04-05-2013, 01:55 PM
I thought so too at first, but it does look very yellow...

it could be the lighting on the room he's in, I believe

josh8
04-05-2013, 01:59 PM
Awesome pic! I can already see improvements in the eyebrow, sideburns/mutton chops, and the lips. Great job so far!

747
04-05-2013, 02:00 PM
Webb's updates are soooo boring :(


When it comes to twitter updates about the respective current superhero movie they are doing – Singer pwns Webb.

bubbadoom
04-05-2013, 02:03 PM
Like the new Beast - looks like they have given up on the cat Beast and going for a younger version of Kelsey's Beast from X3.

Double B
04-05-2013, 02:04 PM
WHAT IS THIS?

Beast looks..... good?

I'm in shock.

I hope I feel the same when we see the full face shot. I loathed how Beast looked in X3 and less said about FC, the better.

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:10 PM
they just smoothed his face abit but overall the eyes are the same as first class beast

its a good improvement

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:11 PM
http://igorstudios.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Beast-posed.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQip3xSYSZPV5Y7bRoxG_CwxiBOOGGM b4qeT4xC9ds0aJfP8F5

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/beast-ecu.jpg

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:13 PM
Like the new Beast - looks like they have given up on the cat Beast and going for a younger version of Kelsey's Beast from X3.

if you really look at it singer just got rid of some of the more noticable lines on his face, still got the yellow eyes, its more of a mixture now of X3 and first class

By your Command
04-05-2013, 02:14 PM
if you really look at it singer just got rid of some of the more noticable lines on his face, still got the yellow eyes, its more of a mixture now of X3 and first class

A perfect mix one might say.

JP
04-05-2013, 02:15 PM
if you really look at it singer just got rid of some of the more noticable lines on his face, still got the yellow eyes, its more of a mixture now of X3 and first class
First Class was a mask, this is actual make up. You can actually see Nick Hoult in it this time. Wasn't the case in FC.

747
04-05-2013, 02:19 PM
Yeah I love how you can see Hoult's features in Beast this time. And I'm glad I can look at Beast without wanting to laugh (see above promo pic of First Class Beast for example).

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:19 PM
the new look will probably help Hoult with more facial movements which probably makes sense when you think this guy will most likely be looking like this through out the film and wouldn't be very recognisable

will probably look more like hoults now

JP
04-05-2013, 02:20 PM
http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Beast-Side-by-Side.jpg


Bryan always gets very creative with the eyes! Mystique, Nightcrawler, and now Beast. :)

Angamb
04-05-2013, 02:23 PM
I addeed the three Beasts look to date:

http://s23.postimg.org/kgul1ea17/Beast_movies.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:23 PM
it seems a realistic transition from first class beast to x3 beast

thats a good thing

Double B
04-05-2013, 02:26 PM
I will never get over how awful both FC Beast, and X3 Beast, looked, in two very different ways.

By your Command
04-05-2013, 02:28 PM
the new look will probably help Hoult with more facial movements which probably makes sense when you think this guy will most likely be looking like this through out the film and wouldn't be very recognisable

will probably look more like hoults now

I really hope they work more on the movement, yes the facial part worked half the time on "First Class" and about 80% in X3, but the movement was just ridiculously bad on both movies, so please, more ape movements would work for me and a little hunchback never hurt anyone.

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:32 PM
I really hope they work more on the movement, yes the facial part worked half the time on "First Class" and about 80% in X3, but the movement was just ridiculously bad on both movies, so please, more ape movements would work for me and a little hunchback never hurt anyone.

i suspect they will keep to the movement of beast in both Xfc and X3, seems like singer is connecting these characters so to change beasts movements now may be more taking it away from Fc and X3 beast

GuestStar2004
04-05-2013, 02:34 PM
i dunno if singer is brave or stupid for even trying to connect all these films together but hey we will have to see =)

good luck to him

Angamb
04-05-2013, 02:38 PM
about the movements, I have a strong feeling Beast could be one of the characters involved with CGI Bryan have talked about since months ago.

Mainly on action sequences, of course. Nicholas could do the motion capture for the Beast fights, and then the special effects house will do the rest, to make Beast moves and fight like a real beast, instead of a human trying to act as a Beast.