View Full Version : Here is Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern!
Karelia
07-26-2010, 12:16 AM
DC needed a GL trailer, if they had that and something about Batman/Superman, they could have had a decent CC IMO.
LostSon88
07-26-2010, 12:19 AM
It didn't even have to necessarily be Batman since some pretty basic stuff is already known about the next movie.
But c'mon,
Superman...Flash....Wonder Woman...ANYTHING!
Maximillian
07-26-2010, 12:42 AM
The white gloves aren't there, and I think that's fine, because specifically they're lame.
So... what, they're gonna be green like nearly the rest of the suit? That would be way too monotonous.
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 12:45 AM
I like the white glove but I can see why they're gone.
Since the suit is a bio-manifisation of the ring bearer, Ryan here has an honest and FUNNY answer: "It's not like he's a valet parking attendant in Toyko".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywiizKuEjE
also, he mentions the suit is GREEN AND BLACK.
Sam Fisher
07-26-2010, 12:58 AM
The Sinestro poster was the only one to hit the web. There were others.Is there a pic of this?
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 01:03 AM
I didn't see any Sinestro poster
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 01:06 AM
Cool. Ryan seems like a chill dude.
That's why I get so frustrated when nerds badmouth him. He's always been very humble and down to Earth in interviews. Plus he's very funny so when people just badmouth him blindly, it's very upsetting because I think Ryan is one of the good guys in Hollywood. His career hasn't been perfect (though it's slowly changing now) but he deserves the fame.
The Batman
07-26-2010, 01:11 AM
I think Reynolds and The Role of Hal Jordan will kind of elevate them both. Playing a major superhero will open doors for reynolds, while the character of Hal will be liked because of Reynolds and the charisma he brings.
Steelsheen
07-26-2010, 01:23 AM
so um...whatever happened to DC and their so-called, "Big Announcements" for their movie franchises.
If they were ever looking for the opportune moment, Comic-Con was it. Green Lantern aside...MARVEL was pretty much the talk of the town.
WB dropped the ball again, IMO.
And this is coming from a DC guy. :dry:
i think WB knew it cant possibly outdo the Marvel slate. Marvel had all their engines running, it did the best it could with Green Lantern. and you cant say that Reynolds didnt pull a wow when he recited the GL oath
i have theorized around here that WB/DC's snail pace with its properties was due to several factors-- 1.) that it was complacent with its pre-exisiting franchises (such as HP) still making money for them and 2.) they're gonna use Marvel as a guinea pig and just replicate their success. if they want to increase the guarantee on their ROI thats the best way to do it.
edit: one other thing. i dont know what's up with WB's marketing department, but it was generally off on nearly all its properties for the Con, even Harry Potter. that Tom Felton intro on a semi-new trailer was a last minute, half-hearted thing. you'd think WB would use a high profile venue like SDCC to showcase its stuff but it hardly did. are they gonna employ a new kind of strategy for its projects? who knows, but defo WB didnt bring its A-game to the Con.
camp Blood
07-26-2010, 01:26 AM
Not to get off topic but any superman news
Ipodman
07-26-2010, 01:30 AM
I didn't see any Sinestro poster
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Lucaxmen/news/?a=20533
Not sure if real or fake
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 01:54 AM
The white gloves look fine in the comics, and snickering over them being lame is just spitting in the face of comics fans imo. Of course he's a rich actor with a goddess wife, so there's no reason for him to give a **** about a bunch of loser nerds I guess.
I can live without them, especially since they're not even doing a movie about the GL I like best anyway (Alan Scott). But he was kinda dickish about it and people snickering about it are being dickish too. I think Gil Kane deserves more respect than that. But I guess if it's tradition it automatically sucks ass.
Wolfwood
07-26-2010, 02:01 AM
I don't know where else to put this, but hearing Ryan do the Oath from memory was pretty fantastic.
Star Lord
07-26-2010, 02:07 AM
The white gloves look fine in the comics, and snickering over them being lame is just spitting in the face of comics fans imo. Of course he's a rich actor with a goddess wife, so there's no reason for him to give a **** about a bunch of loser nerds I guess.
I can live without them, especially since they're not even doing a movie about the GL I like best anyway (Alan Scott). But he was kinda dickish about it and people snickering about it are being dickish too. I think Gil Kane deserves more respect than that. But I guess if it's tradition it automatically sucks ass.
So because he has an opinion on something... he is spitting in the face of comics fans and the creator?
Ryan Reynolds is a humble guy... he reads comics. Well, Archie and Deadpool anyway.
But he is right IMO. The white gloves do look lame. Some people say they look good on paper (i still disagree) but that's the point... ON PAPER.
In live action he'd look like a friggin Power Ranger or something.
Crook
07-26-2010, 02:08 AM
The white gloves look fine in the comics, and snickering over them being lame is just spitting in the face of comics fans imo. Of course he's a rich actor with a goddess wife, so there's no reason for him to give a **** about a bunch of loser nerds I guess.
I can live without them, especially since they're not even doing a movie about the GL I like best anyway (Alan Scott). But he was kinda dickish about it and people snickering about it are being dickish too. I think Gil Kane deserves more respect than that. But I guess if it's tradition it automatically sucks ass.
Oh, give it a break. The domino mask, the ring, the chest emblem, the oath, are all part of tradition. Ryan apparently approved them all, and even made sure that the oath was written and spoken verbatim as to how the comics had kept it. "Spitting in the face of comics fans" my ass.
He's allowed to dislike and even make jabs at other facets of the character, just like any of us are. What's with the stupid notion that you have to love everything to appreciate something? That's naive.
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 02:31 AM
Kurosawa is being...dramatic.
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 02:53 AM
I just thought he was kind of a dick about it, yet I'm the one being dramatic. I'm not gonna watch the entire movie pissed because there's no white gloves. I just thought it was sort of a ****** thing to say. And no guy who looks like RR, is married to Scarlett and is rich would ever be humble. Most people are *******s anyway. I don't hate RR or anything, I just didn't like that one comment, bfd.
dark_b
07-26-2010, 03:12 AM
so in the new poster we can see that the mask is not blury but has an edge.
Sam Fisher
07-26-2010, 03:15 AM
Not to get off topic but any superman newsCheck the Superman portion of the board.
Steelsheen
07-26-2010, 03:28 AM
http://www.**************.com/fansites/Lucaxmen/news/?a=20533
Not sure if real or fake
if its fake, then Sinestro should look like that.
TheLongestDay
07-26-2010, 05:27 AM
Im loving the more practical looking mask:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
knowsbleed
07-26-2010, 05:39 AM
Ryan Reynolds spit in my face one time... I didn't mind so much.
Star Lord
07-26-2010, 06:39 AM
I just thought he was kind of a dick about it, yet I'm the one being dramatic. I'm not gonna watch the entire movie pissed because there's no white gloves. I just thought it was sort of a ****** thing to say. And no guy who looks like RR, is married to Scarlett and is rich would ever be humble. Most people are *******s anyway. I don't hate RR or anything, I just didn't like that one comment, bfd.
So because he is rich and good looking he can't be humble?
You can tell he is humble and down to earth from pretty much every single interview he has ever done. In fact i remember an interview he did before Wolverine came out where he was slamming the celebrity/hollywood lifestyle. Saying "why do these celebrities complain about paparazzi and all that... then go for a meal in The Ivy?"
Just because he dislikes one aspect... a superficial/material aspect... about the character doesn't mean he is disrespecting comic fans or the Green Lantern mythos. He simply thinks the white gloves are lame... and i personally totally agree with him.
camp Blood
07-26-2010, 07:02 AM
I'm not saying he was a dick but he should have known that saying that would piss people off
Star Lord
07-26-2010, 07:08 AM
He can't please every body. And he shouldn't try to. I prefer people to tell the truth rather than lie just to keep up appearances.
He'll have pissed of the fans of the white gloves. But he'll make people like me who think the white gloves are lame as hell, think he is even more awesome.
Green Ghost
07-26-2010, 07:27 AM
He can't please every body. And he shouldn't try to. I prefer people to tell the truth rather than lie just to keep up appearances.
He'll have pissed of the fans of the white gloves. But he'll make people like me who think the white gloves are lame as hell, think he is even more awesome.
You are right!
And I totally agree on the white gloves story, because they really are lame! I can't understand that there are people who think that they would look good in a movie...they don't even look cool in the comics.
Star Lord
07-26-2010, 07:34 AM
I think it's mainly nostalgia and the fact that he was originally designed that way. Which is fair. But that was decades ago. I guarantee if Hal Jordan was a newly created character in the last few years... he would not be designed with those gloves.
camp Blood
07-26-2010, 07:43 AM
Again I can see how they wouldn't work in the movie but on paper I think it's cool it's just how I picture GL in my head but losing the white gloves won't ruin the costume either
But I still think him saying that white gloves are lame was a bad move on his part that's like if he were to play superman and then went and said that the red trunks are lame
3 Dev Adam
07-26-2010, 08:56 AM
Here's the full version of the Oath, courtesy Warner Channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPWJDA1JV5M
maenalus
07-26-2010, 09:13 AM
In the comics, the white gloves look great, but they would draw all the attention in live action. I accept that.:csad:
maenalus
07-26-2010, 09:50 AM
I'm so happy that they went with a sleek cgi suit rather than cloth or rubber or anything like those ugly manips made with Fantastic Four suits. Manips almost always make me cringe, but the way people were thinking GL should look was its own kind of yuck.
camp Blood
07-26-2010, 10:02 AM
I hope he forms objects with his powers like blades maybe a giant fist
I SEE SPIDEY
07-26-2010, 10:39 AM
Kurosawa is being...dramatic.He always is.
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 01:01 PM
I just thought he was kind of a dick about it, yet I'm the one being dramatic. I'm not gonna watch the entire movie pissed because there's no white gloves. I just thought it was sort of a ****** thing to say. And no guy who looks like RR, is married to Scarlett and is rich would ever be humble. Most people are *******s anyway. I don't hate RR or anything, I just didn't like that one comment, bfd.
Heck yeah, you're being dramatic. That's no way around it.
DCnightwing23
07-26-2010, 01:32 PM
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo1.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo2.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo3.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo4.jpg
DCnightwing23
07-26-2010, 01:32 PM
^comic con posters
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 02:02 PM
Again I can see how they wouldn't work in the movie but on paper I think it's cool it's just how I picture GL in my head but losing the white gloves won't ruin the costume either
But I still think him saying that white gloves are lame was a bad move on his part that's like if he were to play superman and then went and said that the red trunks are lame
It's the EXACT same thing, yea. There was no upside for him to say this, all it could possibly do is piss some fans off. I will say that doing away with the gloves and then dismissing them as lame sets a bad precedent that I could easily see being repeated with Superman's red trunks. This is part of why Marvel SMOKES DC with their movie series...even though they change stuff, they don't wipe your face in it. The Marvel news out of CC is the Avengers cast and the incredible epicness of the Thor movie. The DC news? A recitation of GL's oath and white gloves are lame.
Heck yeah, you're being dramatic. That's no way around it.
So ****ing what? I know you guys don't even have a clue who Gil Kane was I but I don't like people busting on his costume design. Like I said, it's not a make or break issue for me, I just thought it was kinda a dick thing to say and people cheering over it come off as jerks themselves.
On a more positive note, Sinestro and Hammond both look awesome.
So ****ing what? I know you guys don't even have a clue who Gil Kane was I but I don't like people busting on his costume design. Gil Kane? Didn't he create Batman? :hehe:
lixdexia
07-26-2010, 02:06 PM
It's the EXACT same thing, yea. There was no upside for him to say this, all it could possibly do is piss some fans off.
that's not true, it showed me he has a reasonable sense of humor about the project. it built some good faith imo
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 02:16 PM
It's the EXACT same thing, yea. There was no upside for him to say this, all it could possibly do is piss some fans off. I will say that doing away with the gloves and then dismissing them as lame sets a bad precedent that I could easily see being repeated with Superman's red trunks. This is part of why Marvel SMOKES DC with their movie series...even though they change stuff, they don't wipe your face in it. The Marvel news out of CC is the Avengers cast and the incredible epicness of the Thor movie. The DC news? A recitation of GL's oath and white gloves are lame.
So ****ing what? I know you guys don't even have a clue who Gil Kane was I but I don't like people busting on his costume design. Like I said, it's not a make or break issue for me, I just thought it was kinda a dick thing to say and people cheering over it come off as jerks themselves.
On a more positive note, Sinestro and Hammond both look awesome.
This is not helping your cause.
Take it as a joke.
It's like if someone made fun of Robin's original 'bare-leg' costume. "Why they just digged out the bodies of Bob Kane and Bill Finger and p*ssed on their bodies. Not only that, he just punched the very soul of James Robinson."
Saint
07-26-2010, 03:11 PM
"Punched the very soul."
Win.
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 03:25 PM
Look, there is a way to talk about updating things and not be an ******* about it. It might be news to you but you can actually do that and not disrespect the guys who created the characters.
Overall, as I've been saying, it's not a huge issue, but it still comes off as snide. There is no upside to it, that's for certain.
Somebody has to show the old creators respect because most people don't even know who they were much less respect them at all.
The Batman
07-26-2010, 03:35 PM
I just find it strange how kuro purposely omitted the fact that we got actual footage from the movie.
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 03:38 PM
Yeah, we did. Well, the people there did just like the people there got Thor and Cap footage. I actually like DC's characters and comics better, but Marvel is doing a better job of hyping what they're doing, IMO. I didn't omit it as much as I didn't think to mention it. But I should have.
dnno1
07-26-2010, 03:39 PM
Yeah, it was a snide remark and I want to believe that he was implying that we deal with it. The white gloves are out, but the costume is still within the spirit of the character (both golden and silver age). History has proven that a costume change has never been the downfall of a movie. Let's be more civilized and move on.
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 03:49 PM
Yeah, it was a snide remark and I want to believe that he was implying that we deal with it. The white gloves are out, but the costume is still withing the spirit of the character (both golden and silver age). History has proven that a costume change has never been the downfall of a movie. Let's be more civilized and move on.
Agreed. Most everything about this movie looks good to me so far.
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-26-2010, 03:54 PM
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo1.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo2.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo3.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo4.jpg
AHHHHH! Yes!
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 03:59 PM
The fact that Sinestro's red skin looks like skin is really really cool. Hope Katma Tui pops up in the sequels. They've got an awesome story to tell with Sinestro and I just hope the first movie does well enough that they get to tell it.
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 04:08 PM
I watched a vid of the panel, I love how Ryan mentioned Han Solo as an inspiration.
Kurosawa
07-26-2010, 04:12 PM
No question the characters have a lot in common. Harrison would have made a good Hal Jordan back in the day.
Heck, Han and Hal even both hang out with a goody-goody blond haired guy-Luke and Barry.
Micah12345
07-26-2010, 04:46 PM
Sinestro looks so much more comics-accurate than I thought he would. Very cool.
Octoberist
07-26-2010, 04:53 PM
i've notice that the website on the posters doesn't work.
maenalus
07-26-2010, 08:03 PM
:up: to RR siting Chuck Yeager and Han Solo as archetypes for Hal.
Doctor Who
07-27-2010, 03:18 AM
I'm not saying he was a dick but he should have known that saying that would piss people off
I usually would say the same, but after watching this I take back every rotten thought of him since Day 1.
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mclay18
07-27-2010, 10:49 AM
Im loving the more practical looking mask:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
I love that poster. It oozes GL all over it, and puts that iffy-looking EW pic in its place. I hope that will end up being one of the official teaser posters the WB will put out.
camp Blood
07-27-2010, 11:21 AM
One question does the ring need to be a size larger to fit over the gloves
Brian Braddock
07-27-2010, 11:29 AM
Well, given that the suit [and by extension, the gloves] is a construct of the ring, I think the ring would be able to work around itself. ;)
camp Blood
07-27-2010, 11:51 AM
Good point.
In filming though they probably had 20 different rings
M.O.Steel
07-27-2010, 12:20 PM
were you talking about in the film or in reality? it would definitely have to be bigger in real life because it looks like a really thick glove.
in the film, i guess it would make sense if the ring expanded. but it's a special that could have fit anyone (who was chosen) so size doesn't seem to be an issue
dnno1
07-27-2010, 01:00 PM
I love that poster. It oozes GL all over it, and puts that iffy-looking EW pic in its place. I hope that will end up being one of the official teaser posters the WB will put out.
The insignia/ring is supposed to be a hologram in that image.
Webhead2006
07-27-2010, 01:24 PM
nice poster.
S.A.A.D.
07-27-2010, 02:42 PM
i've notice that the website on the posters doesn't work.
I really really hate this,that that damn website doesn't work,I bet that they don't eve know it. Warner Bros. :doh:
Rezzo
07-27-2010, 02:45 PM
I really really hate this,that that damn website doesn't work,I bet that they don't eve know it. Warner Bros. :doh:
Odds are it's not meant to be live yet.
S.A.A.D.
07-27-2010, 02:53 PM
Odds are it's not meant to be live yet.
If that's the case,then it was too soon that they told the name of the website by slapping it on the Green Lantern posters. One would in general automatically think that it's in working order at first.
Rezzo
07-27-2010, 02:56 PM
If that's the case,then it was too soon that they told the name of the website by slapping it on the Green Lantern posters. One would in general automatically think that it's in working order at first.
At least now we know the site's address.
camp Blood
07-27-2010, 03:09 PM
I think the best part of the costume is the mask now since they cleaned up the edges
Ps that is what I meant by small improvements things that would take maybe 2 hours to fix
Chris Wallace
07-28-2010, 07:27 AM
Truth be told, the GL costume is more or less what I expected. Hollywood has for the last 20+ years felt the need to justify everything where superheroes are concerned. Iron Man couldn't just go red and gold because it looked cool; the gold had to have a purpose. Spider-Man couldn't just like red and blue. There had to be a reason for picking htose colors and there had to be a reason for him to want to make a costume. The X-Men have team uniforms, the FF suits are the only thing they can wear that can accomodate their powers-it's all about some semblance of logic. So I figured they would more than likely go with a suit that LOOKED LIKE it could be somehow made of energy.
Chris Wallace
07-28-2010, 07:28 AM
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo1.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo2.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo3.jpg
http://cdn.superherohype.com/images/stories/greenlanternpromo4.jpg
Nice, but they should've had Reynolds in the mask.
M.O.Steel
07-28-2010, 08:45 AM
good point
camp Blood
07-28-2010, 10:41 AM
I thought in the comic the iron armor was gold because it conducted electricity better at least in the beginning it was
Chris Wallace
07-28-2010, 10:59 AM
I wasn't reading it back then, so I don't know. But I remember reading that the TRUE reason for switching from the grey was the same as why they did it with the Hulk; it was simply easier to print yellow than grey.
Im loving the more practical looking mask:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
Amazing how such a subtle change to the mask can make it look so much better.
That's stellar :up:.
LuisTX85
07-28-2010, 10:43 PM
I've always expected a change to the overall suit itself for a big movie adaption like this!,This change....I was kinda disapointed with this look at first,But then I kept looking at it and I also like the little changes to the mask and so now I accept it.
I won't fully praise or bash it though untill I see it all in motion!.
camp Blood
07-29-2010, 08:06 AM
Now all they have to do is clean up the neck line on the suit like they did the mask.
Ps Chris Wallace that's an awesome avatar!
Webhead2006
07-29-2010, 12:10 PM
yea i am sure by the time the film is released next yr all the little things we were *****ing about in the first ew cover will be fixed up and it will look 10 times better.
camp Blood
07-29-2010, 12:53 PM
I still have problems but if they touch up the neck I just might see it in theaters
I still feel the saving grace of the suit is the symbol and mask
That-Guy
07-29-2010, 12:56 PM
Im loving the more practical looking mask:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
Is this a real image or is it fan made?
Either way, looks awesome.
dnno1
07-29-2010, 12:56 PM
Its crazy how there are folks who will write off a movie just because of the design of a costume, when the trend has shown that it has never been a factor in the success or failure of a film.
dnno1
07-29-2010, 12:57 PM
Is this a real image or is it fan made?
Either way, looks awesome.
It was supposedly one of the banners that was hanging from the rafters at the San Diego Comic-Con this past weekend. The ring is supposed to be a hologram on that banner.
Rezzo
07-29-2010, 12:57 PM
Is this a real image or is it fan made?
Either way, looks awesome.
Real, Comic Con banner.
Webhead2006
07-29-2010, 01:00 PM
yea we all have to remember the film is still a yr from release and of course to the film is totally locked in the can which is usually like 3-4 weeks before release that they can and will likely be touching up the effects shots and all that.
Abraham
07-29-2010, 01:03 PM
real
Octoberist
07-29-2010, 01:06 PM
I saw it when I was at Comic Con. real as real can be.
Crook
07-29-2010, 01:09 PM
Its crazy how there are folks who will write off a movie just because of the design of a costume, when the trend has shown that it has never been a factor in the success or failure of a film.
While I generally agree...
Catwoman. Batman & Robin.
;)
Ryudoz
07-29-2010, 03:00 PM
While I generally agree...
Catwoman. Batman & Robin.
;)
While I am certainly inclined to agree with you on this front, those two movies had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more problems than just the costumes.
Baggers
07-29-2010, 07:04 PM
Im loving the more practical looking mask:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
Cooool :) the rainbow effect from the ring is that just the light shining off the poster?? or actually there?? if it's actually there love the nod to the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum and the other Lantern Corps :)
camp Blood
07-29-2010, 09:37 PM
It's a hologram poster that reflects the spectrum
Baggers
07-29-2010, 09:47 PM
It's a hologram poster that reflects the spectrum
Cool :)
camp Blood
07-29-2010, 10:08 PM
I wonder what happens if you put one of every ring color on
dnno1
07-29-2010, 10:23 PM
While I generally agree...
Catwoman. Batman & Robin.
;)
The costumes had nothing to do with the performance of those films. It was things like this:
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Catwoman on the other hand had a lot of other issues. The costume was the least of those.
camp Blood
07-29-2010, 10:35 PM
Yeah it was letting Halley berry be the lead
Crook
07-29-2010, 10:54 PM
The films had plenty of issues, but it can't be denied that the costumes were a factor. Just not the primary.
DarkKnight FTW
07-30-2010, 06:32 AM
I wonder what happens if you put one of every ring color on
http://glcorps.dcuwiki.net/wiki/images/thumb/c/c5/Green_Lantern_v4_055b.png/388px-Green_Lantern_v4_055b.png
AVEITWITHJAMON
07-30-2010, 07:15 AM
I have to admit, I didnt like the costume at first, primarily because the first one released looked a bit fake, but it definately has grown on me, I think we need to see it in motion, and then we can properly judge how real it looks.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:39 AM
Here I thought you would be a demi-god
That-Guy
07-30-2010, 10:05 AM
Real, Comic Con banner.
Awesome. That puts to rest any reserves I had about the mask. And since I love the rest of the costume, I'd say it's perfect!
I don't understand why some people are complaining about this movie... it seems like a damn-near perfect adaptation, story-wise and visually. Everyone, from the director to the screenwriters to the actors seems committed to make this a great movie for the fans, and yet people still complain. :confused:
Kurosawa
07-30-2010, 11:21 AM
Its crazy how there are folks who will write off a movie just because of the design of a costume, when the trend has shown that it has never been a factor in the success or failure of a film.
Bad and extremely unfaithful costumes reflect a general lack of understanding, interest and respect for the source material. Not that this costume design is bad at all, mind you. To me it's ok, not too different, not what I wanted either, but I'll settle for it.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 11:28 AM
Bad and extremely unfaithful costumes reflect a general lack of understanding, interest and respect for the source material. Not that this costume design is bad at all, mind you. To me it's ok, not too different, not what I wanted either, but I'll settle for it.
I spoke to a guy who was actually there for the Green Lantern panel. It seems like there were a lot of people there that were concerned about the costume design. Most of them were appeased after hearing from Martin Campbell that the costume is a work in progress and that they were still tweaking it. It is more than likely going to change, but I don't think that we will have white gloves nor will it be that much different from what we have already seen. I do get the sense from the interviews that I have see that it is true that there is a lack of understanding of both the character and the mythology (even Mark Strong admitted that American comics were not the popular read in the UK where he grew up and that he was currently reading the "Emerald Dawn" story archs). If this first film is a success, I would expect the main characters to grow into their parts as the subsequent films are produced.
7/10. It's decent, not bad but looks a bit strange in some odd way.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 01:39 PM
I still feel that as he develops his powers and becomes more confident in his abilities and being a hero he might be able to change the look of the costume and will eventually look like a classic lantern I mean is that hard to believe
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 01:40 PM
I spoke to a guy who was actually there for the Green Lantern panel. It seems like there were a lot of people there that were concerned about the costume design. Most of them were appeased after hearing from Martin Campbell that the costume is a work in progress and that they were still tweaking it. It is more than likely going to change, but I don't think that we will have white gloves nor will it be that much different from what we have already seen. I do get the sense from the interviews that I have see that it is true that there is a lack of understanding of both the character and the mythology (even Mark Strong admitted that American comics were not the popular read in the UK where he grew up and that he was currently reading the "Emerald Dawn" story archs). If this first film is a success, I would expect the main characters to grow into their parts as the subsequent films are produced.
Don't you think we should give a little more credit than that?
You brought up Mark Strong (who also read Secret Origin and has brought up Geoff Johns a number of times) not growing up with American comics; so what? That does not affect his performance, and he's very open in learning more about the mythos.
You have the screenwriters and you have Geoff Johns leading the way, and they are all comic book fans and writers. Especially Johns.
There's times when yeah, there might be a lack of understanding but I don't think that's a huge case here. I'm also a huge believer that in an adaptation, things will change accordingly, based on whatever vision the director has. As long as the integrity of the source material is there, I just want a good movie.
SatEL
07-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Here I thought you would be a demi-god
Well once you absord the power battery you become Ion who is all powerful. Hell his more than a demi God his above sky father level for sure.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Don't you think we should give a little more credit than that?
You brought up Mark Strong (who also read Secret Origin and has brought up Geoff Johns a number of times) not growing up with American comics; so what? That does not affect his performance, and he's very open in learning more about the mythos.
You have the screenwriters and you have Geoff Johns leading the way, and they are all comic book fans and writers. Especially Johns.
There's times when yeah, there might be a lack of understanding but I don't think that's a huge case here. I'm also a huge believer that in an adaptation, things will change accordingly, based on whatever vision the director has. As long as the integrity of the source material is there, I just want a good movie.
I'm just going to go by what these guys are saying. Some of them have already gone on record that they either new to the character or didn't have the opportunity to read about them when they were younger. Sure they are great entertainers, but you can not be assured that the amount of feeling and interpretation that they put into this first film is going to be as good or satisfactory to people who have known the character and the mythology for most of their lives. You can already see it in the criticism of the costume. Their interpretation has not satisfied the consensus of fans and they are attempting to change it (now the CGI move is looking more and more like a great idea). Don't worry, in spite of what I have said, I do believe that this will be a great film and I expect to see the cast grow into their characters in subsequent films.
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 04:47 PM
Typo in my previous post. Shouldn't "he" get more credit than that, not 'we'.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 04:51 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if and when the DVD of this film comes out in another year and a half that it would be interactive such that you could choose the costume that he would be wearing for the film before viewing?
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-30-2010, 04:54 PM
I don't see why that's necessary or how it would even be possible.
Rezzo
07-30-2010, 04:58 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if and when the DVD of this film comes out in another year and a half that it would be interactive such that you could choose the costume that he would be wearing for the film before viewing?
I don't see why that's necessary or how it would even be possible.
Yea not necessary and probably not remotely possible. Also add to the fact that DVD wouldn't even get such a feature if possible.
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 04:59 PM
also, it ruins the magic of the film. it's like watching Toy Story 3 and having the option to watch it being the animation was rendered.
mcallima
07-30-2010, 05:35 PM
It's important to understand that these people are actors. It's their job to come into a project, learn the role they've been assigned, and portray it however the director tells them to. It's COMPLETELY unreasonable to expect every actor in a superhero movie to be a fanboy, especially when it comes to a lesser known character like Green Lantern.
Did Mark Strong read Green Lantern when he was growing up? No, but if you watch any interview he's given on the movie you can tell that he understands Sinestro perfectly. He knows that Sinestro is a character fueled by moral absolutism and that his betrayal is a matter of hubris, not evil. Hell, Strong even FOUGHT to ensure that Sinestro looked as he does in the comics. Mark Strong will likely never pick up another issue of Green Lantern after he's finished playing Sinestro, but he's dedicated to his craft and to bringing us the character we love. That's all that matters.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 05:57 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if and when the DVD of this film comes out in another year and a half that it would be interactive such that you could choose the costume that he would be wearing for the film before viewing?
I don't see why that's necessary or how it would even be possible.
Yea not necessary and probably not remotely possible. Also add to the fact that DVD wouldn't even get such a feature if possible.
Rule of thumb: anything you can imagine can be done electronically. The costume is just a computer generated image so they could render a number of costumes (say 2 or 3) and store them (the films) on the DVD (maybe on a Blu-Ray disc since it has a much higher capacity). Your menu could have a selection where you pick the costume you like for example:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/glpainting2.jpg
http://thm-a04.yimg.com/nimage/a761a9d135a0bebc_____________________CHOOSE ONE
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/gl-1.jpg
After you select, you watch the movie with the costume of your choice. It's pretty easy. Something like this is already done for language translation.
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-30-2010, 06:18 PM
It's not a video game, it's a movie. If you don't like the movie costume or would prefer another one, too bad.
Darkness Falls
07-30-2010, 06:22 PM
i agree with blitzkrieg
dnno1
07-30-2010, 06:27 PM
It's not a video game, it's a movie. If you don't like the movie costume or would prefer another one, too bad.
Look, that's the whole idea behind the use of DVD and (now) Blu-Ray Disc. You now have a data storage media that has a high enough capacity to allow the consumer to interact and have choices with the product. You already have a language selection feature on most discs so there is no reason why you couldn't have other choices like a different costume selection or an alternate scene or setting selection. Saying tough luck is kind of piss-poor when you stand a chance of selling a few more videos over it. It might not be all that expensive to offer it in three different (costume ) formats either since it is all digital anyway.
Cuyan
07-30-2010, 06:33 PM
The production costs incurred for such a frivolous option kind of puts it outside the realm of possibilities.
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-30-2010, 06:36 PM
It's still a "who cares" idea. I doubt many people would buy multiple copies of the same movie for an exclusive costume or people would be more inclined to buy if they can change something they don't like. Lots of people who hate Christian Bale's Batman bought The Dark Knight. The movie's costume was created for a reason. That's the one they want people to see.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 06:41 PM
The production costs incurred for such a frivolous option kind of puts it outside the realm of possibilities.
It's still a "who cares" idea. I doubt many people would buy multiple copies of the same movie for an exclusive costume or people would be more inclined to buy if they can change something they don't like. Lots of people who hate Christian Bale's Batman bought The Dark Knight. The movie's costume was created for a reason. That's the one they want people to see.
I don't know. Show me how much it would cost (all you are doing is rendering two extra versions of the costume in post production) and how many more would be interested in buying discs with that feature and we can have an honest discussion about costs and frivolity. Outside of that we are just talking in the realm of negative opinion and speculation and not about any facts.
Cuyan
07-30-2010, 06:47 PM
Re-rendering the suit in every frame of the film? How do you consider this a cost effective feat, let alone one that would be mitigated by such a narrow market?
dnno1
07-30-2010, 06:51 PM
Re-rendering the suit in every frame of the film? How do you consider this a cost effective feat, let alone one that would be mitigated by such a narrow market?
It's not like they are going to hand paint every frame. They are using a computer to do it. It shouldn't take long to do once you have the algorithm set up and the designs. In fact there is such a thing as real time rendering.
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 07:24 PM
Let's face it, if I was the director of the Green Lantern, there will be a point of a compromise, and there will be a point where I HAVE TO STAND BY MY VISION of the film. That's why they hired me, not a group of fanboys dictating my every move.
dnno1
07-30-2010, 08:08 PM
Well said.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:18 PM
I get that but I want at least the color scheme of the old one but by now I am just willing to compromise for some all black parts of the suit like just black pant legs or something
DarthSkywalker
07-30-2010, 08:22 PM
I get that but I want at least the color scheme of the old one but by now I am just willing to compromise for some all black parts of the suit like just black pant legs or something
There are no pant legs.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:40 PM
Leggings what ever is one his legs I mean, the legs part of the suit
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 08:40 PM
I get that but I want at least the color scheme of the old one but by now I am just willing to compromise for some all black parts of the suit like just black pant legs or something
I'm gonna take their word for it and wait till the finalized design. I read an interview when Ryan SAID that the suit has black on it so we'll see.
Think about this:
It's almost like the Joker design for The Dark Knight. The first pic of Heath was tweaked from the final design.
DarthSkywalker
07-30-2010, 08:42 PM
Leggings what ever is one his legs I mean
But if they are going for a living entity sort of idea, why would the suit have such a drastic color change? Everything should be a shade of green. Even what appears black will just be a really deep green.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:46 PM
I don't know but didn't the sinestro concept have black legs
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 08:47 PM
there will be black, man. I'm not too worried. I said 'too' because I can be wrong.
But if they are going for a living entity sort of idea, why would the suit have such a drastic color change? Everything should be a shade of green. Even what appears black will just be a really deep green.
Ryan himself said in an interview at comic-con that costume is green and black. No white. Green and black.
DarthSkywalker
07-30-2010, 08:48 PM
there will be black, man. I'm not too worried. I said 'too' because I can be wrong.
But why have black? Doesn't that sort of contradict the idea they going with for the outfit.
Ryan himself said in an interview at comic-con that costume is green and black. No white. Green and black.
Interpretation of what black means. I.E. a really dark green can appear black. Doesn't make it black.
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 08:51 PM
There's times when I feel like it has to make sense to the story, and there's times when it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.
What I'm saying is, yes, they explain what the suit it. But why does it have a lantern logo on the chest? To me, you just have to let those things go and roll with it. Personally, the black contrast makes the Green Lantern suit look attractive in the first place, white gloves or not.
If the suit is all green, should to toe, then it would have to have some sort of pattern. Maybe dark green on the legs, lighter green on the torso. But if it's monotone, then no, it'll look like poop.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Living things can be more than one color just look at cuddle fish or chameleons
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 08:52 PM
exactly
Octoberist
07-30-2010, 08:54 PM
the most beautiful creatures on earth are capable of the most exotic color patterns. Sometimes as a defense mech, but sometimes it's just the magic of nature.
DarthSkywalker
07-30-2010, 08:55 PM
There's times when I feel like it has to make sense to the story, and there's times when it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.
What I'm saying is, yes, they explain what the suit it. But why does it have a lantern logo on the chest? To me, you just have to let those things go and roll with it. Personally, the black contrast makes the Green Lantern suit look attractive in the first place, white gloves or not.
If the suit is all green, should to toe, then it would have to have some sort of pattern. Maybe dark green on the legs, lighter green on the torso. But if it's monotone, then no, it'll look like poop.
I completely agree and the part in bold is exactly what I think they are going for. There will be varying colors of green, some which are so dark they appear black, with the possibly of the suit glowing as if it is living, making bits change in their depth of color from one moment to the next.
You can put the logo down to the ring. It is the source of the suit after all. :woot:
Living things can be more than one color just look at cuddle fish or chameleons
But are they running around with a ring based around a specific color scheme? :woot:
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 08:58 PM
Aren't some parrots 6 or 7 colors I own a Persian tortoise shell pattern cat that's a weird mix of 4 colors brown black orange and a little white I own a pug that when she was young was all fawn with a solid black face and forehead I own another cat a tabby that's white with big spot or her back and head that's striped gray and black and it's a drastic change no fade at all
DarthSkywalker
07-30-2010, 09:00 PM
Aren't some parrots 6 or 7 colors I own a Persian tortoise shell pattern cat that's a weird mix of 4 colors brown black orange and a little white I own a pug that when she was young was all fawn with a solid black face and forehead I own another cat a tabby that's white with big spot or her back and head that's striped gray and black and it's a drastic change no fade at all
That has everything to do with living conditions, where the animal lives and breeding. All over the course of generations. We are talking about a magical ring based around a very specific color.
camp Blood
07-30-2010, 09:01 PM
It can be any pattern as long and it consists of green and black
Wesley Dodds
07-30-2010, 11:38 PM
The costume is green and black. This is a fact. Reynolds has personally gone on record saying the white gloves are stupid.
DCUmoviepage
07-30-2010, 11:43 PM
White gloves is something good in comics,but is not really funcional in real world.I realy like the movie suit,but the painted-mask is a problem what they will fixed soon,and when finally happen,we have a nice domino mask in this face.
I hope so ><
Wesley Dodds
07-30-2010, 11:46 PM
...Yeah.
Octoberist
07-31-2010, 01:14 AM
White gloves is something good in comics,but is not really funcional in real world.I realy like the movie suit,but the painted-mask is a problem what they will fixed soon,and when finally happen,we have a nice domino mask in this face.
I hope so ><
There was a banner at the WB booth with the newly designed domino mask taht looks more solid, and covers more of the face. It's on the boards somewhere, I'm just too lazy to find it for you.
Octoberist
07-31-2010, 01:15 AM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/ponyboyzero/DSC04152.jpg?t=1280112518
Here you go. Yes, I've seen in person so it's legit
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 10:12 AM
I don't think it covers the face more but they did clean up the edges to make t look like a real mask
Doctor Jones
07-31-2010, 10:19 AM
I think there is a slight change in the size of the mask. The lower part below his eye doesn't seem to have the curves the EW picture had.
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 11:38 AM
And does it seem more glossy
rahan
07-31-2010, 02:29 PM
Living things can be more than one color just look at cuddle fish or chameleons
While that is absolutely true I think it's a false starting point for the whole argument. The general idea with the GL Costume for this movie seems to be, that it is a ring construct first and foremost and the ring has never produced anything else than the color green.
I think it's a great idea. The whole green, black and white costume always bugged me in the comics. I mean, if the ring is the source of it, then what the hell is it made of? It ain't a ring construct that's for sure. Is the ring capable to reconfigure matter? If so then Hal is pretty incompetent when it comes to the possibilites this could offer in a fight, since he doesn't seem to use the ring for anything else than green light constructs. I'd say an all green costume (with varying shades of green) seem the most logical option considering the source of GL's power.
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 02:41 PM
I see your point it's not like he's called "the green and black lantern" but maybe they could go into the green and black representing the good and evil in a persons heart and maybe if your more evil your suit consists of more black
protocida
07-31-2010, 02:53 PM
In the comics, the suit is a biometrical unit designed to preserve the body's temperature in the cold regions of space. The green areas keep the hot areas of the body hot and the black areas keep the cold areas of the body cold.
rahan
07-31-2010, 03:07 PM
In the comics, the suit is a biometrical unit designed to preserve the body's temperature in the cold regions of space. The green areas keep the hot areas of the body hot and the black areas keep the cold areas of the body cold.
Interesting, cool concept, still what is it made of? I always thought the ring can only produce green light constructs... hmmm which means if Hal's ring gets destroyed the costume should disappear too, which it doesn't... gee, that costume is a real brain twister if ya think about it. *g*
Hmmm, perhaps there is a huuuuuuge room on OA where the costumes are stored and whenever a Lantern suits up, he or she summons the suit via a micro wormhole or somesuch. GL's version of "hammer space"*g*
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 03:11 PM
Maybe it uses the molecules of whatever clothes he's wearing and rearranges them into a GL uniform, constructing something at a molecular level means it can be any material
Blitzkrieg Bop
07-31-2010, 03:27 PM
Interesting, cool concept, still what is it made of?
Energy from the ring.
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 06:55 PM
i wonder if they will go into the different things hal can form with his powers like the giant baseball glove and giant crowbar and all that
AnorexicBatman
07-31-2010, 09:05 PM
There has to be a scene involving this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1S6bJPKHCQ)
DCUmoviepage
07-31-2010, 09:38 PM
Here you go. Yes, I've seen in person so it's legit
I have seen this before,but thanks to remind me about the mask anyway :up:
camp Blood
07-31-2010, 09:39 PM
What about a giant rotating saw blade
Motown Marvel
08-01-2010, 12:14 PM
Maybe it uses the molecules of whatever clothes he's wearing and rearranges them into a GL uniform, constructing something at a molecular level means it can be any material
or maybe its just a comic book and we should all stop expecting real world science to explain fake world fiction.
these discussions are getting ridiculous.
camp Blood
08-01-2010, 01:17 PM
F'n A man it was just an idea
Motown Marvel
08-01-2010, 09:52 PM
yeah i know, my statement was mostly meant for everyone, not just you.
camp Blood
08-01-2010, 11:04 PM
Someone was asking how energy could become matter and I was just saying maybe it manipulates it
I get that where reading way to much into a movie based on a comic it's not like where dealing with some mind warping movie like inception or something
DarthSkywalker
08-02-2010, 12:03 AM
or maybe its just a comic book and we should all stop expecting real world science to explain fake world fiction.
these discussions are getting ridiculous.
Then perhaps they shouldn't try to involve real world logic into the comics/films?
This what I don't get about comments like this. In the last 20 some odd years, comics have tried to become more and more "realistic" and "gritty". It becomes an even bigger deal when you bring them to the big screen.
You can't start grounding a film in reality and then decide some parts can be exempt.
camp Blood
08-02-2010, 12:07 AM
And when you try to make it like the comic it becomes to cheesy
All in all it's a delicate balancing act of realisim and source material
I just tried to come up with a way for any costume to be formed, even regular clothes and it be easy to explain I though the rings energy being able to manipulate matter was a clever idea
Chris Wallace
08-02-2010, 07:09 AM
I figure that's probably gonna be the justification anyway.
dnno1
08-02-2010, 08:35 AM
Interesting, cool concept, still what is it made of? I always thought the ring can only produce green light constructs... hmmm which means if Hal's ring gets destroyed the costume should disappear too, which it doesn't... gee, that costume is a real brain twister if ya think about it. *g*
Hmmm, perhaps there is a huuuuuuge room on OA where the costumes are stored and whenever a Lantern suits up, he or she summons the suit via a micro wormhole or somesuch. GL's version of "hammer space"*g*
The ring can produce energy (or solid light) constructs or manupulate matter. Technically, if he loses concentration or the ring leaves his finger, it the costume will dematerialize, but in many cases it hasn't because of a default programing to protect the wearer using low level reserve power. On a side note, in the Silver Age, Hal Jordan was able to command his ring as long as he was within 100 yards of it so he was able to remove it and maintain his costume.
Then perhaps they shouldn't try to involve real world logic into the comics/films?
This what I don't get about comments like this. In the last 20 some odd years, comics have tried to become more and more "realistic" and "gritty". It becomes an even bigger deal when you bring them to the big screen.
You can't start grounding a film in reality and then decide some parts can be exempt.
You can produce matter from energy. Particle accelerators produce small amounts subatomic particles as a resultant of the collision of positrons and electrons (some of the kinetic energy produced is used to make these particles). Unfortunateley some of it is anti matter and usually destroys these particles. Additionally it takes larges amounts of energy to produce matter. Another thing to note is that a photon, a basic unit of light, is a particle. Maybe Oan technology has discovered a way to solidify light by slowing down and controling photons using emotions.
Syncos
08-02-2010, 03:53 PM
Interesting, cool concept, still what is it made of? I always thought the ring can only produce green light constructs... hmmm which means if Hal's ring gets destroyed the costume should disappear too, which it doesn't... gee, that costume is a real brain twister if ya think about it. *g*
Hmmm, perhaps there is a huuuuuuge room on OA where the costumes are stored and whenever a Lantern suits up, he or she summons the suit via a micro wormhole or somesuch. GL's version of "hammer space"*g*
If Green Lanterns can hide power batteries in pocket dimensions, opening them up and pulling them out, they can certainly materialize their costume.
Hal can go from a flight suit, to the green lantern costume and back. It stands to reason, he's not wearing the flight suit under the costume, or vice versa. It's just an ability the ring has. I'm sure there's limits to this power. But lets face it, the ring also allows a lantern to breathe in space, and translates any language. It can do much more than just make light constructs.
It stands to reason that the costume isn't a standard light construct, even in this movie. As it's solid, and has texture.
misjuevos
08-03-2010, 08:56 AM
you think he will shave with the ring? i know there will be some little gags like that. hope he doesnt run out of toilet paper,lol
camp Blood
08-03-2010, 09:39 AM
Do we know if Michael madesen is going to be kiliwog's voice in this movie as well
Huntress22
08-20-2010, 09:10 PM
This is the worst thing I have ever seen. I just don't understand why studio executives have over 70 years of comics too go by. And then they do this, the Green Lantern Corp. is a police force they all have the same uniforms they have white gloves and their suits are green with black not organic looking muscle looking. This reminds me of nipples on the Batman suit. That's why I believe there taking so long for the trailer to come out. Because their trying to fix this horrible suit. So make it right and give us a great Green Lantern movie.
Spideyfan93
08-20-2010, 11:57 PM
You're going way too far Huntress. The organic feel is a good idea. It is not anywhere as far in the direction of sillyness as the Bat-nipples...and it isn't even silly.
DarkKnight FTW
08-21-2010, 09:44 AM
You're going way too far Huntress. The organic feel is a good idea. It is not anywhere as far in the direction of sillyness as the Bat-nipples...and it isn't even silly.
:applaud:applaud:up:
not sure on the mask, but the costume looks cool :)
Brian Braddock
08-23-2010, 12:00 PM
This is the worst thing I have ever seen. I just don't understand why studio executives have over 70 years of comics too go by. And then they do this, the Green Lantern Corp. is a police force they all have the same uniforms they have white gloves and their suits are green with black not organic looking muscle looking. This reminds me of nipples on the Batman suit. That's why I believe there taking so long for the trailer to come out. Because their trying to fix this horrible suit. So make it right and give us a great Green Lantern movie.
The worst thing you have ever seen? Worst? Ever? You have to be joking; either that or you just have a penchant for massive over-statement. :whatever:
I'm struggling right now to not view your post as literally being an example of everything that is wrong with the spoilt fanboy/girl culture.
Look, while it's not 100% comic accurate (show me a movie costume that is), it still has enough about it to obviously be a GL uniform, so before you go spouting that WB and those involved with the production are so readilly treating the source material with such distain, I suggest that you should be thankful this movie is even getting made the way it is because I can guarantee you that you wouldve been crying even more if they'd have made the Jack Black GL comedy instead.
This place sometimes - it makes my blood boil...........:doh:
You're going way too far Huntress. The organic feel is a good idea. It is not anywhere as far in the direction of sillyness as the Bat-nipples...and it isn't even silly.
A-men.
That-Guy
08-23-2010, 02:40 PM
This is the worst thing I have ever seen. I just don't understand why studio executives have over 70 years of comics too go by. And then they do this, the Green Lantern Corp. is a police force they all have the same uniforms they have white gloves and their suits are green with black not organic looking muscle looking. This reminds me of nipples on the Batman suit. That's why I believe there taking so long for the trailer to come out. Because their trying to fix this horrible suit. So make it right and give us a great Green Lantern movie.
Yes... this movie is an epic failure because of the lack of white gloves...
Hal Jordan also needs a top hat and a cane, and maybe even coattails... yes, there must be coattails. And spats on his shoes.
And maybe if we're really lucky he'd burst into a new rendition of "In the Ritz" smack dab in the middle of a slugfest with Sinestro. And then Sinestro can put a top hat on and dance up the wall like f**king Fred Astaire.
If the movie has all of that, it would be so awesome. But instead, we'll probably just get another boring superhero movie that's fairly faithful to the comic and has great action sequences and special effects. LAME.
dnno1
08-23-2010, 03:04 PM
Yes... this movie is an epic failure because of the lack of white gloves...
Hal Jordan also needs a top hat and a cane, and maybe even coattails... yes, there must be coattails. And spats on his shoes.
And maybe if we're really lucky he'd burst into a new rendition of "In the Ritz" smack dab in the middle of a slugfest with Sinestro. And then Sinestro can put a top hat on and dance up the wall like f**king Fred Astaire.
If the movie has all of that, it would be so awesome. But instead, we'll probably just get another boring superhero movie that's fairly faithful to the comic and has great action sequences and special effects. LAME.
Spider-man 3 anyone?
nite-owl
08-23-2010, 03:15 PM
No white Gloves? then there's no reason to live. Where's my kayak!!!!
Blitzkrieg Bop
08-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Where's my choo-choo?!
camp Blood
08-23-2010, 08:35 PM
Do we any idea what the voice cast will be
That-Guy
08-23-2010, 10:24 PM
Spider-man 3 anyone?
:hehe:
Just imagine Hal with emo hair.
JeetKuneDo
08-23-2010, 10:31 PM
Yes... this movie is an epic failure because of the lack of white gloves...
All this over some gloves. Sounds vaguely familar....
Ah! The wings on Capt America's head! I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
I'll reinforce the sentiment that we are completely missing what should be an exciting time. A Green Lantern movie! A Thor movie! An Avengers movie!
Holy smokes...somebody pinch me...this wasn't supposed to happen in my lifetime, was it? We're getting all this and more in the next 2 years no less.
Huntress22
08-23-2010, 11:05 PM
Will see when they finally show the trailer and the suit looks nothing like that piece of garbage that there passing off as the Green Lantern uniform. And some examples of suits that got it perfect Superman, Spiderman, Thor, Iron Man. It has been done before and I hope the studio realize this.
That-Guy
08-24-2010, 08:48 AM
Actually, there are PLENTY of differences between the movie Thor costume and the comic book one. The most recent Superman film had changes as well. And you know, there were these other two movies about a guy in a bat suit that looked a great deal different that his comic book costume. I don't know, I'll have to look into it, but... I think those films were kinda popular.
Grow up. Not everything is going to look like it jumped right off a comic book page.
Doctor Jones
08-24-2010, 09:01 AM
Better yet, there's people who actually believe the movie Spider-Man costume should look more home made. Like a Halloween costume. Like that wouldn't look ridiculous or anything.
Syncos
08-24-2010, 09:06 AM
Will see when they finally show the trailer and the suit looks nothing like that piece of garbage that there passing off as the Green Lantern uniform. And some examples of suits that got it perfect Superman, Spiderman, Thor, Iron Man. It has been done before and I hope the studio realize this.
Every one of those costumes had pretty much the same level of changes as the green lantern one. (assuming they keep the black, which we've little to no evidence besides testimonials).
Changing the gloves to green is no different than adding reflective lenses to spider-man, or giving thor leather pants, or superman's pleather cape. Even the Iron Man armor was redesigned for the movie. Though being based off of Granov's work, it was most certainly not the same.
dnno1
08-24-2010, 09:19 AM
Do we any idea what the voice cast will be
I am not sure that they really know themselves although they have probably narrowed the choices down to a hand full of voice actors for each character. In an interview with CBR (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27502), Martin Campbell stated that they "had some ideas that they couldn't disclose at the moment" due in part to the fact that they were still shooting at the time and they usually choose the voice cast when they are closer to completion of filming. Campbell did indicate that there could be 3 to 4 voices tried for each character to see how they fit (kind of like how they do screen tests for actors). In any case we may be a month or so away from knowing who they finally chose. I say that because I expect a trailer to come out around November.
That-Guy
08-24-2010, 10:46 AM
Better yet, there's people who actually believe the movie Spider-Man costume should look more home made. Like a Halloween costume. Like that wouldn't look ridiculous or anything.
LOL, yeah. I bet those people are super-excited that Spider-Man got rebooted and are sitting at home right now, writing letters to Sony, demanding that the new Spidey should be web-swinging in his longjohns.
I know that when I saw Raimi's Spider-Man films, all I could think was, "These movies would be SO much better if they looked a little more like Blankman." :hehe:
Karelia
08-24-2010, 11:56 AM
I still think the costume looks awesome. I'd just like to see what it looks like in a trailer in motion. If the domino mask covered his whole nose I'd like it a lot more.
So is that the final costume or have they went in and changed it since the release of that picture?
Although i'm not a big Green Lantern fan which means I don't have the same vested interest in the character/film, i'm surprised at how much complaining there has been over the suit. No, i'm not just referring to Huntress22 but the numerous complainers.
I just find it incredibly funny that fans were *****ing on such a level that it seemed like the suit was so inaccurate that it wasn't the right color in regards to being green or they removed the little mask or maybe gave him a full head mask instead.
Also, I don't get what the love is for the white gloves other than the fact that it's simply because that's how it looks in the comic. I'm a fairly big Punisher fan but if they ever make another movie and give him the white gloves and boots like in his original appearances it would look horrible. The white gloves on either one of those characters looks silly because it looks like what those '70s Go-Go Dancers wear.
Personally with the talk that the suit will have the black sections like in the comic I don't see how fans can consider it incredibly inaccurate.
Chris B
08-24-2010, 02:34 PM
I am not sure that they really know themselves although they have probably narrowed the choices down to a hand full of voice actors for each character. In an interview with CBR (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27502), Martin Campbell stated that they "had some ideas that they couldn't disclose at the moment" due in part to the fact that they were still shooting at the time and they usually choose the voice cast when they are closer to completion of filming. Campbell did indicate that there could be 3 to 4 voices tried for each character to see how they fit (kind of like how they do screen tests for actors). In any case we may be a month or so away from knowing who they finally chose. I say that because I expect a trailer to come out around November.
Personally, it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't know until June with someone scribbling the VA's down on a piece of paper at an early viewing. Unless one of the VA's or Campbell himself lets it slip before them.
Karelia
08-24-2010, 02:51 PM
Although i'm not a big Green Lantern fan which means I don't have the same vested interest in the character/film, i'm surprised at how much complaining there has been over the suit. No, i'm not just referring to Huntress22 but the numerous complainers.
I just find it incredibly funny that fans were *****ing on such a level that it seemed like the suit was so inaccurate that it wasn't the right color in regards to being green or they removed the little mask or maybe gave him a full head mask instead.
Also, I don't get what the love is for the white gloves other than the fact that it's simply because that's how it looks in the comic. I'm a fairly big Punisher fan but if they ever make another movie and give him the white gloves and boots like in his original appearances it would look horrible. The white gloves on either one of those characters looks silly because it looks like what those '70s Go-Go Dancers wear.
Personally with the talk that the suit will have the black sections like in the comic I don't see how fans can consider it incredibly inaccurate.
I agree about the gloves. I think they would just look weird on screen, especially with the more alienish look to the suit that they're going for in the film.
I have heard he wasn't going to wear the domino mask through most of the film, even when he has the suit on. Is that true or just false info?
Gold Samurai
08-24-2010, 04:32 PM
All this over some gloves. Sounds vaguely familar....
Ah! The wings on Capt America's head! I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
Ah the flames on Optimus Prime. I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
Ah Daniel Craig. I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
Ah bobble head Batman I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
I have heard he wasn't going to wear the domino mask through most of the film, even when he has the suit on. Is that true or just false info?
I don't know about that but hopefully it's not true.
dnno1
08-24-2010, 05:27 PM
I agree about the gloves. I think they would just look weird on screen, especially with the more alienish look to the suit that they're going for in the film.
I have heard he wasn't going to wear the domino mask through most of the film, even when he has the suit on. Is that true or just false info?
Where did you hear that from?
Doctor Jones
08-24-2010, 05:29 PM
No one is going to care about the lack of white gloves by the time it comes out. Especially if the movie is good. It's just one of those typical *****ing things that they have to get out of their systems when it's first heard about.
And the costume has black in it. My God people... it's not hard to spot.
Karelia
08-24-2010, 06:13 PM
Where did you hear that from?
It took me a little while to find it, but here's the link:
http://youbentmywookie.com/entertainment/reynolds-not-exected-to-always-wear-trademark-mask-green-lantern-suit-to-be-almost-entirely-cg-8690
It's not confirmed, so hopefully they're wrong about it. I don't know how trustworthy they are or anything, I just remember reading this a few weeks ago.
dnno1
08-24-2010, 07:03 PM
It took me a little while to find it, but here's the link:
http://youbentmywookie.com/entertainment/reynolds-not-exected-to-always-wear-trademark-mask-green-lantern-suit-to-be-almost-entirely-cg-8690
It's not confirmed, so hopefully they're wrong about it. I don't know how trustworthy they are or anything, I just remember reading this a few weeks ago.
First of all, this is a blogger and even he/she admits that he could not confirm this (even though it was supposedly from a source, however credible that is). Secondly, this was way back in April before they revealed the costume, which does have a mask, on the cover of "Entertainment Weekly". This is just a rumor that I hardly think is true.
camp Blood
08-24-2010, 09:34 PM
Yeah man they wouldn't want to piss is off that much
Karelia
08-25-2010, 12:48 AM
Yeah, I didn't even look to see when that was posted or anything, I just thought I remember reading it somewhere. It'd be kinda weird if had the costume and not the mask...
Sorry for the noobness. :D
arman200
08-25-2010, 03:20 AM
Ah the flames on Optimus Prime. I knew I had heard this somewhere before.
Really?
camp Blood
08-25-2010, 05:38 PM
I found this to be really funny in my opinion but if you don't like it I apologize ahead of time
"Crispy first look" is hilarious
http://www.bite.ca/bitedaily/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/red-bacon.jpg
terry78
08-25-2010, 07:16 PM
To be totally blunt, pretty much every superhero costume is homoerotic than a mother****er, but we overlook that because of what they represent.
Doctor Jones
08-25-2010, 08:23 PM
Exactly. Besides a skin tight costume, you will find a large package as well.
Karelia
08-25-2010, 11:37 PM
Red Bacon... :funny: That's funny.
camp Blood
08-26-2010, 06:24 AM
And when colored red it does look like bacon
That's great ****in humor. :woot::woot::woot: You'd have to be a pretty diehard fan not to laugh here. And then you just loose.
BigSams50
08-26-2010, 12:20 PM
LMAO at Red Bacon
Karelia
08-26-2010, 10:17 PM
Y'know when RR was first cast as Green Lantern, I wasn't really sure what to think, especially him playing Deadpool 'n all. But now I really think he's going to make an awesome Hal Jordan. I'm hoping he'll be for DC what RDJ is for Marvel. :D
That-Guy
08-27-2010, 12:17 AM
To be totally blunt, pretty much every superhero costume is homoerotic than a mother****er, but we overlook that because of what they represent.
Very true.
Well, except for Dr. Manhattan. We all know he didn't wear tights. :woot:
Saint
08-27-2010, 12:21 AM
There must be some kind of cultural reference I'm not aware of with this "Red Bacon" thing.
Blitzkrieg Bop
08-27-2010, 12:28 AM
There must be some kind of cultural reference I'm not aware of with this "Red Bacon" thing.
It's just a joke that the suit looks like it's made of bacon...I think.
That-Guy
08-27-2010, 12:02 PM
It's pretty silly. You could just as easily say that Batman's costume looks like black rubber fetish wear and Spidey's costume looks like a full body condom.
Welcome to the Internet, where people b**ch just to b**ch.
Doctor Jones
08-27-2010, 12:05 PM
People thought Batman looked like a dildo. Where they got that I have no idea. They must have some pretty crazy imaginations. Or they think for hours over what the suit looks like just to post it and complain.
ChickenScratch
08-27-2010, 12:13 PM
Geeks complain and nitpick, it's nothing new.
camp Blood
08-27-2010, 04:30 PM
saint i posted this on the last page, thats the joke
the crispy first look at RED BACON. i found it looking up GL concept pics. there saying the suit looks like its made of bacon strips
http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/green-lantern-red-bacon.jpg
Doctor Jones
08-27-2010, 04:56 PM
See, the thing is it was never that funny in the first place. See originality isn't always good.
Saint
08-27-2010, 05:04 PM
Actually, that is pretty funny. The suit does look like it's made out of bacon.
(Hint: Before crying "It doesn't look like bacon," consider that bacon is muscle tissue and that the suit is obviously designed with muscle tissue in mind)
DannyDreg
08-27-2010, 08:29 PM
This might sound odd, but after seeing the suit in red I think it'd make a pretty rockin' movie costume for The Flash. Can someone make a manip?
Doctor Jones
08-28-2010, 11:02 AM
Actually, that is pretty funny. The suit does look like it's made out of bacon.
(Hint: Before crying "It doesn't look like bacon," consider that bacon is muscle tissue and that the suit is obviously designed with muscle tissue in mind)
I kind of got that. It still doesn't make it funny. :dry::huh:
Nightwing
08-28-2010, 12:27 PM
Now all we need...is the Red Bacon oath.
Fenrir
08-28-2010, 07:17 PM
In brightest day, in blackest night,
No hunger, shall escape my sight,
Let all those who worship a vegetable diet,
Beware my power, Red bacon's delight.
Darkness Falls
08-28-2010, 09:10 PM
^^^^^^^^ this :D
S.A.A.D.
08-28-2010, 09:17 PM
The bacon shtick was never funny,it's gotten old,very quick.
lixdexia
08-28-2010, 09:32 PM
i disagree
camp Blood
08-28-2010, 10:17 PM
You had me at bacon.
KalMart
08-28-2010, 10:59 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/w9jzo1.jpg
arman200
08-29-2010, 02:57 AM
I kind of got that. It still doesn't make it funny. :dry::huh:
Wow....that's somewhat disappointing :doh:. I thought there was a good reason for the Red Bacon that I just wasn't seeing. Like.. a funny reason.
Doctor Jones
08-29-2010, 08:29 AM
We're just going through the typical stages of fanboyism. When the costume is revealed:
1: Blind rage and saying the film is doomed to fail. Analyzing every aspect of the costume and then --
2:"WHERE ARE ALL THE COLORS?!!"
3: Not long after, manips of the photo are made to make fun of it; jokes of which no one else has any idea as to how they came up with them.
4: Everything cools down, occasional joke here and there.
5: 1st trailer. COOLEST THING EVAAA! This movie is going to own!
6: Photos come out. Getting more excited. Now the everyone seems to forget about the costume.
7: 2nd trailer. This can't get any better! WOW!
8. Weeks and eventual days until release, excitement is growing. People eventually accept changes.
9: Release day. Total excitement.
10: If it's great a) it will have alot of excitement and hyperbole around it for a while, then eventually it's not as good. Bandwagons ensue. And b) If it sucks, crucifiction to Reynolds and Campbell. The costume always sucked!!!
11: Buy DVD/Blu Ray.
BigSams50
08-29-2010, 09:29 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/w9jzo1.jpg
:pal::pal::pal::pal::pal:
Saint
08-29-2010, 02:08 PM
We're just going through the typical stages of fanboyism. When the costume is revealed:
Or it's just a joke, and your crude "analysis" of the demographic is irrelevant.
camp Blood
08-29-2010, 02:44 PM
Yeah I meant it as a joke I even apologized in advance if it upset anybody
I said I am fine with the costume ever since they cleaned up the mask
THE INTRUDER
08-30-2010, 08:51 AM
Looks like Kyle Rayner instead of Hal Jordan!! Thats all I'm gonna say.
Doctor Jones
08-30-2010, 10:20 AM
Or it's just a joke, and your crude "analysis" of the demographic is irrelevant.
Crude perhaps, but most of what I listed happens most of the time. :oldrazz:
And camp blood it wasn't aimed at you.
lixdexia
08-30-2010, 10:28 AM
I said I am fine with the costume ever since they cleaned up the mask:huh: pic?
camp Blood
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
I can remember what page it was but it's was a close up of banners from comic con where you can see that the mask has hard edges
This is not the pic but it's of the same banner I think
As you can see the mask edges are sharp and defined
http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/green_lantern_comic_con_banner1.jpg
I think the costume looks good and think the Red Bacon image is funny. Sometimes jokes aren't necessary malicious.
That-Guy
09-02-2010, 09:58 AM
We're just going through the typical stages of fanboyism. When the costume is revealed:
1: Blind rage and saying the film is doomed to fail. Analyzing every aspect of the costume and then --
2:"WHERE ARE ALL THE COLORS?!!"
3: Not long after, manips of the photo are made to make fun of it; jokes of which no one else has any idea as to how they came up with them.
4: Everything cools down, occasional joke here and there.
5: 1st trailer. COOLEST THING EVAAA! This movie is going to own!
6: Photos come out. Getting more excited. Now the everyone seems to forget about the costume.
7: 2nd trailer. This can't get any better! WOW!
8. Weeks and eventual days until release, excitement is growing. People eventually accept changes.
9: Release day. Total excitement.
10: If it's great a) it will have alot of excitement and hyperbole around it for a while, then eventually it's not as good. Bandwagons ensue. And b) If it sucks, crucifiction to Reynolds and Campbell. The costume always sucked!!!
11: Buy DVD/Blu Ray.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, especially with #11. If people love the movie, then within a week or a month, suddenly its "an overrated hype machine." And if it's bad, well... you know how that goes.
Doctor Jones
09-02-2010, 10:03 AM
Then it inevitably gets compared to other comic book films, most likely TDK.
Lord Bravery
09-02-2010, 10:45 AM
I'm a big fan of Ryan Reynolds. I think he is funny and he is underrated as a dramatic actor.
That said, I just cannot get hyped for this movie. I think Hal Jordan is a cardboard cut out, cliche of a superhero. I don't agree with Reynolds comparison of him to Han Solo. They are pretty similar in that they are womanizing douche bags. The difference is, Han Solo is a charismatic, likable guy. Hal Jordan isn't. I remember the time in one of the comics years ago Guy Gardner died, and whilst his body was still warm Hal got with his girlfriend :dry: He also tried it on with an underage Supergirl...
Personally, I don't think Hal Jordan deserves someone as cool and likable as Ryan Reynolds playing him. His natural charisma and comic timing is wasted on a character such as Hal Jordan.
As for the movie itself? I'm not sure it will be a big success. I think Warner Bros have misplaced their confidence, saying they want to make a back to back trilogy. I honestly think anyone over the age of 10 who doesn't read comic books is either going to laugh out loud or face palm at the famous Green Lantern "oath". It's corny as hell. And i also think the power rings will be a hard sell too. I'm sure it will appeal to kids. But adults? I don't think so.
Just my two cents.
S.A.A.D.
09-02-2010, 10:58 AM
N/m
Lord Bravery
09-02-2010, 11:02 AM
Well, he's approximately 100000% more charismatic than Hal Jordan anyway. Han is the very definition of "likable rogue". Hal is the very definition of "douche bag". And he has also come very close to being a peedo in the past too.
S.A.A.D.
09-02-2010, 11:08 AM
I don't think that Hal is a jerk,he just seems a bit weird,and he sounds complex. Ha Solo is a major average guy,has a bad hair style,and was a douche. Even though he improved when he wasn't all about the money when it came to helping.
Lord Bravery
09-02-2010, 11:12 AM
How is Hal Jordan complex? The only real character development he has ever had was retconned. And how he is written today? It's like the guide on how to "mary sue" a character.
And you mention the power ring, so you are one of those people who judges whether a character is good or not on their powers?
S.A.A.D.
09-02-2010, 11:20 AM
How is Hal Jordan complex? The only real character development he has ever had was retconned. And how he is written today? It's like the guide on how to "mary sue" a character.
And you mention the power ring, so you are one of those people who judges whether a character is good or not on their powers?
I don't like comic book characters just because of their powers. I'm just saying that it sounds like that to me,you can think whatever you want about him,I really don't care.
Lord Bravery
09-02-2010, 11:27 AM
You're just saying what sounds like what to you? That i'm judging characters based on their powers? No, far from it. I judge characters on their personalities, Hal Jordan doesn't have one. I mean, let's forget Hal Jordan is a Green Lantern for a sec, take away his GL ring and give him superstrength or superspeed, something generic. Would anyone give a crap about him? I think not.
Karelia
09-02-2010, 11:45 AM
In the graphic novel "Secret Origin" I don't think he's that unlikeable. I think Ryan Reynolds will make Hal Jordan more likable for the film. Kinda what RDJ did for Tony Stark. :D
Lord Bravery
09-02-2010, 11:50 AM
And that upsets me even more... it's duping people into thinking Hal is cool because he is being played by a cool actor.
Tony Stark was always cool. Yea he was a arrogant douche bag, but he had a heart of gold and had personality. And most importantly... he didn't try it on with underage girls or get with his friends girlfriends whilst their body is still warm after being killed.
And are you talking about Geoff Johns Secret Origin? Of course he wouldn't be unlikable, in Geoff Johns hands he is the most awesome, heroic, noble, friendly, important character in the entire DCU. It's called giving Hal Jordan the "mary sue" treatment.
Karelia
09-02-2010, 12:06 PM
Well, they've said that the movie is heavily based on "Secret Origin" so...yeah.
All that underage girl stuff has been thrown out of continuity, hasn't it? So why bring it up? :D
powerbomb1411
09-02-2010, 01:26 PM
Tony Stark was always cool. Yea he was a arrogant douche bag, but he had a heart of gold and had personality. And most importantly... he didn't try it on with underage girls or get with his friends girlfriends whilst their body is still warm after being killed.
Um, actually, I'm pretty sure given enough booze he could easily sleep with an underage girl, and really, age is so much of a factor. It's messed up that a 21 year old sleeping with a 17 year old is viewed as such a disgusting crime but Hugh Hephner sleeping with various woman 40 years younger than him is perfectly ok.
And with the womanizer Stark is, it wouldn't surprise me if Tony has slept with any of his dead friends girlfriends. Can't think of whether or not he has slept with Pepper recently after his best friends death. Wouldn't surprise me though.
protocida
09-02-2010, 05:47 PM
I remember the time in one of the comics years ago Guy Gardner died, and whilst his body was still warm Hal got with his girlfriend.
Guy did not die, he was send to the Anti-Matter Universe due to a malfunctioning battery. Hal felt guilty, as it was his battery, and decide to help Guy's girlfriend Kari Limbo go trough the mourning process. They spend months together getting close before their mutual attraction actually came to fruition.
He also tried it on with an underage Supergirl...
Nope again. Supergirl started flirting with him when they were in a mission at the cassino-planet Ventura, and Hal turned her down exactly because she was underage.
And Hal has a pretty straightfoward personality: He is a man without fear. He is brave, he is cocky, he is a womanziner, he never gives up, he loves his city and his family, he's always ready to get the job done and he'll always fight for what he believes it's right. He's a daredevil. He enjoys being a superhero. He punches bad guys in the face with a smirk.
And that's awesome. :awesome:
S.A.A.D.
09-02-2010, 07:46 PM
Guy did not die, he was send to the Anti-Matter Universe due to a malfunctioning battery. Hal felt guilty, as it was his battery, and decide to help Guy's girlfriend Kari Limbo go trough the mourning process. They spend months together getting close before their mutual attraction actually came to fruition.
Nope again. Supergirl started flirting with him when they were in a mission at the cassino-planet Ventura, and Hal turned her down exactly because she was underage.
And Hal has a pretty straightfoward personality: He is a man without fear. He is brave, he is cocky, he is a womanziner, he never gives up, he loves his city and his family, he's always ready to get the job done and he'll always fight for what he believes it's right. He's a daredevil. He enjoys being a superhero. He punches bad guys in the face with a smirk.
And that's awesome. :awesome:
A beauty of Hal is that,there is nothing to hate about him,imo. I can count on him to not make me go in rage mode. And at least he isn't a total Mary Sue type of guy,therefor he is different enough to enjoy. :awesome:
dnno1
09-03-2010, 03:32 AM
Guy did not die, he was send to the Anti-Matter Universe due to a malfunctioning battery. Hal felt guilty, as it was his battery, and decide to help Guy's girlfriend Kari Limbo go trough the mourning process. They spend months together getting close before their mutual attraction actually came to fruition.
Nope again. Supergirl started flirting with him when they were in a mission at the cassino-planet Ventura, and Hal turned her down exactly because she was underage.
And Hal has a pretty straightfoward personality: He is a man without fear. He is brave, he is cocky, he is a womanziner, he never gives up, he loves his city and his family, he's always ready to get the job done and he'll always fight for what he believes it's right. He's a daredevil. He enjoys being a superhero. He punches bad guys in the face with a smirk.
And that's awesome. :awesome:
Bad guys and Batman.
dnno1
09-03-2010, 04:20 AM
I'm a big fan of Ryan Reynolds. I think he is funny and he is underrated as a dramatic actor.
That said, I just cannot get hyped for this movie. I think Hal Jordan is a cardboard cut out, cliche of a superhero. I don't agree with Reynolds comparison of him to Han Solo. They are pretty similar in that they are womanizing douche bags. The difference is, Han Solo is a charismatic, likable guy. Hal Jordan isn't. I remember the time in one of the comics years ago Guy Gardner died, and whilst his body was still warm Hal got with his girlfriend :dry: He also tried it on with an underage Supergirl...
Personally, I don't think Hal Jordan deserves someone as cool and likable as Ryan Reynolds playing him. His natural charisma and comic timing is wasted on a character such as Hal Jordan.
As for the movie itself? I'm not sure it will be a big success. I think Warner Bros have misplaced their confidence, saying they want to make a back to back trilogy. I honestly think anyone over the age of 10 who doesn't read comic books is either going to laugh out loud or face palm at the famous Green Lantern "oath". It's corny as hell. And i also think the power rings will be a hard sell too. I'm sure it will appeal to kids. But adults? I don't think so.
Just my two cents.
I am noticing a lot of newcomers to the forum, and I should bid them all a belated welcome to the Hype. It seems that you have read a few stories about Hal Jordan in the past. If you go look back again, you will notice that in most cases, the women that he was with threw themselves on him and not the other way around (Arisia, Supergirl, et. al.). The only woman that Hal really tried to go after as the agressor, was Carol Ferris, but she was enamored with Green Lantern and not Hal Jordan.
As far as being a cardboard cutout of a superhero, what great one isn't? Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America all have secret identities, are tall (maybe not so much Spider-Man) and handsome, male, brave, and have love intrests... Just like their template, Superman. This is all a part of good comicbook superhero genre so saying that Jordan is cliche is not saying anything new nor that it is a bad thing. Now, one aspect of Green Lantern that differenciates him from the others is the fact that he is a superhero whose domain is outer space (sure, there are heroes like Captain Mar-Vel, Nova, Star Lord, and maybe ROM, but they are not as popular and do not predate Green Lantern).
One final comment that I should make is that you are right about the fact that the Green Lantern oath being corny is just your 2 cents (i.e. your opinion), but it is not necessarily based on any fact. The Harry Potter franchise is rife with spells (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2E41Q6OvY), which are no different than the limeric like GL oath, and the Star Wars franchise had the phrase: "May the force be with you". Those were not considered to be corny, and were great franchises. Let's not get into the power ring being a hard sell, since some replicas of Harry Potter's magic wand and the Jedi light saber are collectibles. I don't see Green Lantern being any different than "Star Wars" and Hal Jordan is more like Luke Skywalker than Han Solo (Solo was never trained during that franchise). Furthermore, the Green Lantern mythos can not be told as a single standalone film without a lot of questions to be answered. It is better told as a trilogy (and better yet, a sextology or an anthology). If this first film can attract fans from these types of franchises (Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings) it will be a hit as the studio is predicting and all this negative banter will be just water under the bridge.
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