Here is Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern!

[camp Blood]

Awesome I knew that's what parallax would be, the demon entity. you can even go back a few pages to see my post

Maybe they will change it up and have parallax possess sinestro all I know is that I have a feeling we will see yellow lantern sinestro by the end of this movie

[The Guard]

I doubt we'll see Sinestro getting the fear-driven ring yet. I know the script hints at it, and flat out says "Golden Ring".

[Weadazoid]

So what is the scale on this thing?

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9840/glmovieparallaxscale.jpg



MAD props on Parralax. I was always pissed that Fox decided to never give the Phoenix force any kind of physical manifestation.


It's nice to see a simmilar 'cosmic psyionic' force will be given some kind of form.


Though I imagine It will be kind of ghostly, maybe like an appritition in appearance. Seems to be some evidence in that shot that it isn't 100% solid in form.

Very prehistoric looking -great concept.

[dnno1]

So what is the scale on this thing?

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9840/glmovieparallaxscale.jpg

Hal jordan is 6" tall.

[lixdexia]

Hal jordan is 6" tall.
that's kind of irrelevant as that pic of jordan was added after the fact and we have no idea if it's to scale or not.

[The Guard]

Parallax is made of light, isn't it? Wouldn't it be able to stretch and change shape and whatnot?

[kedrell]

Didn't I see something like that in Finding Nemo?

[camp Blood]

Then I hope we at least see a yellow lantern ring maybe a after credits scene of sinestro picking it up I am really interested in how it will look

[Chris Wallace]

well that's not really a fair assessment then is it. i haven't heard any complaints about the new x-men movie, but i'm sure there are plentyIf i frequent the boards and I see more complaints in one area than in another, I'm probably going to conclude that there are more complaints in that area. If I only pop in once in a blue moon, then I really don't have a lot of basis for judgement.


only always

Wow. At least Tony Stark will make sure you get home.

[camp Blood]

Any hope of a blackest night story line later on in the GL movie franchise maybe by the 3rd or 4th film

They do plan on this lasting more then 3 films a'la nolans batman trilogy, right?

[Capt Throbberson]

Any hope of a blackest night story line later on in the GL movie franchise maybe by the 3rd or 4th film

They do plan on this lasting more then 3 films a'la nolans batman trilogy, right?

Blackest Night is too much of a DC Universe story to really work right. Not only do they have to include the Justice League and other DC heroes, etc. you have the fact that a lot of them are dead. Part of what BN cool was seeing DC characters duke it out with the Dead characters. They probably could make a version that's entirely GL focused, but that still requires a hell of a lot of build-up that they probably couldn't pull off in 2 movies (Not counting the this one, since it's an Origin.)

Sinestro Corps Wars however, would make an awesome 3rd or 4th Part. They can still work the story around and still keep what made it great.

[Chris Wallace]

That's the problem as I see it, too.

[Octoberist]

Yeah. I'd say keep it simple.

[HighFivingMF]

Blackest Night is too much of a DC Universe story to really work right. Not only do they have to include the Justice League and other DC heroes, etc. you have the fact that a lot of them are dead. Part of what BN cool was seeing DC characters duke it out with the Dead characters. They probably could make a version that's entirely GL focused, but that still requires a hell of a lot of build-up that they probably couldn't pull off in 2 movies (Not counting the this one, since it's an Origin.)

Sinestro Corps Wars however, would make an awesome 3rd or 4th Part. They can still work the story around and still keep what made it great.
If it was GL-centered seeing Hal have to go up Black Lantern Martin Jordan and Black Lantern Abin Sur would be pretty cool though.

[protocida]

It could be done, actually.

First Movie: Hal Jordan becomes a Green Lantern. Hector Hammond is infected by the yellow light of fear wielded by Parallax.

Second Movie: The Manhunters return seeking revenge against the Green Lantern Corps and the Star Sapphires are created by the Zamarons. The Massacre of Sector 666 and the Five Inversions led by Atrocitus appear, as well as John Stewart.

Third Movie: Sinestro creates the Sinestro Corps War and Parallax is freed to assist him to conquer the Universe. Hal and John are introduced to Guy Gardner and the prophecy. In the end, the Black Power Battery is created.

Fourth Movie: Atrocitus tames the red light of rage and creates the Red Lantern Corps to seek revenge against both the Green Lanterns and the Sinestro Corps. The Blue Lanterns are created by the now renegade Ganthet and Sayd to assist Hal, John, Guy and the newly introduced Kyle Rayner.

Fifth Movie: Larfleeze, the Agent Orange, is introduced, as well as the Indigo Tribe led by Indigo-1. All players are put in motion.

Sixth Movie: The Blackest Night arrives. Nekron, Scar and William Hand create a army of drone Black Lanterns whose power rings create illusions that force their victims to have emotional responses in order to destroy all life and light. Hal, Carol, Sinestro, Atrocitus, Larfleeze, Saint Walker and Indigo-1 have to join forces to destroy them.

But it would never happen.

[That-Guy]

I always thought the comic book Parallax looked kind of ridiculous, but they seem to have made it work with this image. Of course, we'll have to see what it looks like on the big screen.

I hope that, somewhere down the road we do get to see Hal/Parallax. I wouldn't want Hal to be turned into a villain (at least not permanently) but I just want to see that awesome costume on screen. That was one of my favorite designs ever.

[HighFivingMF]

It could be done, actually.

First Movie: Hal Jordan becomes a Green Lantern. Hector Hammond is infected by the yellow light of fear wielded by Parallax.

Second Movie: The Manhunters return seeking revenge against the Green Lantern Corps and the Star Sapphires are created by the Zamarons. The Massacre of Sector 666 and the Five Inversions led by Atrocitus appear, as well as John Stewart.

Third Movie: Sinestro creates the Sinestro Corps War and Parallax is freed to assist him to conquer the Universe. Hal and John are introduced to Guy Gardner and the prophecy. In the end, the Black Power Battery is created.

Fourth Movie: Atrocitus tames the red light of rage and creates the Red Lantern Corps to seek revenge against both the Green Lanterns and the Sinestro Corps. The Blue Lanterns are created by the now renegade Ganthet and Sayd to assist Hal, John, Guy and the newly introduced Kyle Rayner.

Fifth Movie: Larfleeze, the Agent Orange, is introduced, as well as the Indigo Tribe led by Indigo-1. All players are put in motion.

Sixth Movie: The Blackest Night arrives. Nekron, Scar and William Hand create a army of drone Black Lanterns whose power rings create illusions that force their victims to have emotional responses in order to destroy all life and light. Hal, Carol, Sinestro, Atrocitus, Larfleeze, Saint Walker and Indigo-1 have to join forces to destroy them.

But it would never happen.
It would be pretty neat if it was big several-chapter series leading up to an epic conclusion, since Green Lantern is one of the tentpoles they're using to fill the Potter-void.

[camp Blood]

Yeah I was thinking keep it within the various lantern corps, sorry if I sound retarded but I can help but imagine all the awesome GL mythology that will be epic on the big screen

I picture a awesome space battle with really epic orchestra music in the back round with somebody screaming " LET THIS BE OUR FINAL BATTLE!!"

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

It could be done, actually.

First Movie: Hal Jordan becomes a Green Lantern. Hector Hammond is infected by the yellow light of fear wielded by Parallax.

Second Movie: The Manhunters return seeking revenge against the Green Lantern Corps and the Star Sapphires are created by the Zamarons. The Massacre of Sector 666 and the Five Inversions led by Atrocitus appear, as well as John Stewart.

Third Movie: Sinestro creates the Sinestro Corps War and Parallax is freed to assist him to conquer the Universe. Hal and John are introduced to Guy Gardner and the prophecy. In the end, the Black Power Battery is created.

Fourth Movie: Atrocitus tames the red light of rage and creates the Red Lantern Corps to seek revenge against both the Green Lanterns and the Sinestro Corps. The Blue Lanterns are created by the now renegade Ganthet and Sayd to assist Hal, John, Guy and the newly introduced Kyle Rayner.

Fifth Movie: Larfleeze, the Agent Orange, is introduced, as well as the Indigo Tribe led by Indigo-1. All players are put in motion.

Sixth Movie: The Blackest Night arrives. Nekron, Scar and William Hand create a army of drone Black Lanterns whose power rings create illusions that force their victims to have emotional responses in order to destroy all life and light. Hal, Carol, Sinestro, Atrocitus, Larfleeze, Saint Walker and Indigo-1 have to join forces to destroy them.

But it would never happen.

That sounds really good but it won't happen. I wish it would.

[Capt Throbberson]

If it was GL-centered seeing Hal have to go up Black Lantern Martin Jordan and Black Lantern Abin Sur would be pretty cool though.

That's actually a pretty good idea.

Since they're apparently already mentioning the emotional spectrum and using Parallax, you could probably tie Sinestro Corps in with Sinestro going rogue, have him meet the Anti-Monitor right when he gets banished and form the corps. Just a few mentions of there being a evil being as powerful of the Guardians in the first Act and it'd probably be enough for the general audience to buy it. They don't really need the to include other corps as long as it's established that they exist. They could also hint at the whole Blackest Night prophecy thing when Sinestro is mentoring Hal and investigate Sur's death.

Then by the third movie, you have a decent abridged Blackest Night set up. The second movie was Lantern Corps focused so there will naturally be some dead Lanterns the audience knows. Add in any other dead characters from the first movie, like Martin and Abin, and you have a decent Black Lantern Corps roster. They might even be able to include the other Corps, or at least some of them in this movie if they couldn't in the second.

There you go. If they breakdown the arcs to their basics and work with them a little they have a decent trilogy on their hands. The "Huge Universe we're only know apart of" Sci-Fi-ness is established right off the bat and gives the writers a lot of lee-way with the story. I take what I said back, the stories do work. The only problem is that this will piss off the fanboys but they're going to be pissed off either way, and will still most likely watch the movies anyway.

[The Sage]

I'm kinda hoping they keep the emotional spectrum to two or three colors in the movie series.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I'm kinda hoping they keep the emotional spectrum to two or three colors in the movie series.

They have to include Yellow and Star Sapphire. I would also like to see Red. If that's it I don't mind but I don't have a problem with seeing all of them.

[arman200]

I'm kinda hoping they keep the emotional spectrum to two or three colors in the movie series.

That's what I would expect to see. But I'd hope they at least show the existence of the other color-based powers, even if they don't fully explore the corps for each color.

But the film summary listed above would be pretty damn awesome to see on screen. It's a shame that wouldn't happen.

[camp Blood]

What about different colored lights in a central hall oh some kind

They could also explain it like if a lantern Corp member is completely over taken by a certain emotion there suit turns that corresponding color

[Mondragon]

Edit: Movied to its own thread…

[greenlantern248]

You know honestly I think the Blackest Night story is actually best suited for the animated front. That way you can include the Justice League and the other lantern corps and make it a great movie

[Metropolis_Man]

You know honestly I think the Blackest Night story is actually best suited for the animated front. That way you can include the Justice League and the other lantern corps and make it a great movie

I agree. I think you can bring more to it by leaving it for animation. We have the new animated series coming out next year as well, and there is really nothing to stop it from playing out in that show. Dan DiDio has said he'd love to see a Sinestro Corps war straight to dvd animated movie too. So I think right now is the best time to be a Green Lantern fan, with so much related to the character being released.

[camp Blood]

I Would settle for animated blackest night they can make it a two part straight to DVD release all the crazy looking entities even the ones the represent compassion and love look like they will rip your face off and eat it

[Metropolis_Man]

Green Lantern has so much untapped potential at this point. We've really only seen First Flight and everything else is untouched right now. I hope the film does well for that reason too. It will hopefully open up the flood gates and have people clamoring for more of the GL universe.

[camp Blood]

I wonder how they'll work in how Alan scott got his GL powers differently and how it's more magical based and doesn't derive from the green lantern corps or a power battery

[Metropolis_Man]

I wonder how they'll work in how Alan scott got his GL powers differently and how it's more magical based and doesn't derive from the green lantern corps or a power battery

I had almost forgotten about him. Do you think they would even try to introduce him into it? Maybe they say he's from a separate Earth.

[Sam]

I wonder how they'll work in how Alan scott got his GL powers differently and how it's more magical based and doesn't derive from the green lantern corps or a power battery

Honestly, i dont see any reason to have Alan Scott at the movie. At all.

Maybe a cameo in the first movie and maybe (MAYBE) develop a little more in sequel.

I think its a waste of time give any kind of deep to Alan Scott now.

[camp Blood]

Maybe just scrap the whole starheart thing it would suck because that's what made Alan Scott the strongest most powerful lantern ever but your right in that it's requires to much backstory and if we wanna see Scott on screen be needs to be a regular lantern

They can explain his red/purple/green costume like Alan felt weird wearing the second skin like costume and covered it up for his modesty

[cerealkiller182]

I like the idea of Alan Scott appearing considering he is rumored to be a secret agent who was formerly a Green Lantern. I think its interesting. But then again Hal is supposed to be the first Earthling.

[ChickenScratch]

They could always go with the explanation that Alan's being a GL has nothing to do with the Gl Corps, like the original version of the story.

[camp Blood]

I would love that but it's highly unlikely they would do that

[Deaths Head II]

I always thought it was too huge a coincidence that a human on Earth would create the same basic character with the same basic powers and name with no relation to the Corps whatsoever.

[mcallima]

Well, the Starheart was derived from Oan technology. So you could say that it's similar in some way to the Star Sapphire in that it plants ideas into the head of the user.

But honestly, I don't really care to see Scott.

[The Guard]

I would imagine Alan Scott would be easy enough to explain. He was, after all in the original script, with hints at a possible prequel.

[ChickenScratch]

I like the whole magical, mystical explanation of Alan Scott before they added the Starheart stuff. But even that can work within a GL movie. Heck, you can have him not even being a full on GL, but occasionally using it to help someone in need or protect himself (if you put him as a government agent type). He can be a character with a power ring and a long history without being the first human GL, he can be a hero that once in a while every few years needs to step in and help.

[camp Blood]

I'd like some nice shots of the suit with no glow in normal lighting

[Nitrobot]

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/7601/GL%20Transform%20Animation.gif

[GhostPoet]

I don't like Alan Scott...at all. So, i'm biased. :)

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Cool gif. :up:

[Excelsior.]

Those are some cheap DVD players.

[HighFivingMF]

I only just noticed Hal had a reflection that changed as well.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Same. His reflection changed on the window as well as the floor.

[Darkness Falls]

i honestly don't think the suit looks bad in that scene

the close up shot when hal says "we look for trouble" or something is the part that looks unfinished

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, I think the CGI throughout the trailer is pretty good. The only problem I have is the collar on Hal's suit... it just goes from flesh to green. If they make it more like an actual collar, I'll be pretty happy overall.

[The Guard]

Same. His reflection changed on the window as well as the floor

Reverse vampire!

[camp Blood]

Suprised no body hasn't photoshoped a yellow lantern version of sinestro

Ps any news on a production GL ring

[HighFivingMF]

Suprised no body hasn't photoshoped a yellow lantern version of sinestro
The manips thread. There's quite a few.

[dnno1]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/21/ryan-reynolds-says-scarlett-johansson-treated-him-badly-report_n_799779.html

[I Am The Knight]

Oh, Hal.

[Doctor Jones]

We're not suppose to believe this hsit are we? Have we forgotten what tabloids are?

[Saint]

Reverse vampire!

I'll save you the trouble of posting "Nobody got the reference?" tomorrow by telling you that I got the reference, haha.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

^^^ Hey, what's your avvy from? That looks pretty cool.

[dnno1]

At 1:37 on this clip, he says that everything was fine with his marrage:

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This was back in September.

At 1:26 in this clip Kelly Raspberry says that Scarlett has not been happy for a while and that she was the one that pulled the plug. She also says that Reynolds has been seeking comfort from an ex (Alanis Morissette):

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That clip was put online this month.

[Darkness Falls]

he dated Alanis Morissette ?

[camp Blood]

why should we care , a crazy hot chick is single again and that's cool and all

but Ryan could date a dude for all i care as long as his acting is good and keeps me entertained ( and keeps it behind closed doors) i couldn't care less. a celebrities personal business is just that there personal business and i respect that. why doesn't Hollywood respect its stars anymore that's like beating the crap out of a prize winning horse, "hey Ryan Reynolds making us a lot of money why dont we go and get a embarrassing picture of him air his dirty laundry in public and call him a assh*le because we love him so much!"

[That-Guy]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Why Ryan and Scarlett broke up is their own business and no one elses. Hollywood couples divorce. A lot. It happens. I don't understand why some celebrity splits are so ridiculously publicized.

[dnno1]

he dated Alanis Morissette ?

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060619a/alanis_morissette.jpg
Alanis Morissette and Ryan Reynolds

Dated? They were engaged for about 3 years before they split up back in 2007.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Why Ryan and Scarlett broke up is their own business and no one elses. Hollywood couples divorce. A lot. It happens. I don't understand why some celebrity splits are so ridiculously publicized.

I really hate all the celebrity gossip nonsense... those people are nothing but tasteless parasites if you ask me.

[S.A.A.D.]

Celeb talk is so boring and the people who love it are major/bad losers.

[camp Blood]

That's why 90% of paparazzi make me sick but you also have to blame the rag paper's for creating a demand for them

[Silvermoth]

I really hate all the celebrity gossip nonsense... those people are nothing but tasteless parasites if you ask me.

It occured to me that fanboys are not dissimilar to celebrity gossipers. We're sort of the male equivalent of it I guess. We, the fanboys, are likely to change our opinion for the flimsiest of news and we're ravenous for the most banal and possibly fake news. For example...

'NEWSFLASH! JOE JOHNSTON HAS CHOSEN HIS PERSONAL ASSISTANT FOR THE CAPTAIN AMERICA FILM. Click this link for a CIA style briefing on the assistant's entire life'

or

'EXTRA ON GREEN LANTERN SET DESCRIBES HAIR AS 'UNINSPIRED'. ARE THERE PROBLEMS FOR THE MOVIE?'

We're not that dissimilar :yay:

[hatebox]

why should we care , a crazy hot chick is single again and that's cool and all

but Ryan could date a dude for all i care as long as his acting is good and keeps me entertained ( and keeps it behind closed doors) i couldn't care less.

Yeah... musn't let our children get infected by the gay disease, right?

[JAK®]

Yeah... musn't let our children get infected by the gay disease, right?
Unfortunate connotations, but I'm pretty sure he meant to keep his general lifestyle private, as that was the overall point he was making.

[GlasgowBat]

Yeah, pretty sure he was conveying a preference for famous faces keeping their private lives.... private.

Think you may have jumped the gun there.

[The Sage]

Saw Buried. Solid movie, and Reynolds gave a great performance. Really looking forward to Green Lantern now. :up:

[camp Blood]

All I was saying is that the tabloids should respect a celebirty's private life

I thought it was horrible how they profited from Patrick swayze's battle with cancer

[Silver Knight]

Does anyone other then me think the costume will change due to Hals power levels?

[I Am The Knight]

^^Everyone keeps saying yes, so I assume that kinda happens, altough I'm not convinced yet? Maybe someone's gotta link to that.

[camp Blood]

I thought it inherently goes with the idea of being able to shape energy to your will

[Silver Knight]

It would be kinda cool if he turns all green when he gets super mad.

[camp Blood]

Or over powered

When he gets super mad I think it would be cool if he showed signs of red or even turned red

[Silver Knight]

Or over powered

When he gets super mad I think it would be cool if he showed signs of red or even turned red

Not going to happen. Ever.

[Brian Braddock]

'Look - it's Green/Red Lantern!'

http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

[camp Blood]

In this film maybe not but I wouldn't put anything past Hollywood

[dnno1]

It would be kinda cool if he turns all green when he gets super mad.

Or over powered

When he gets super mad I think it would be cool if he showed signs of red or even turned red

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/JackTChance/Smilies/hulk.gif

[camp Blood]

Sorry

My thought process behind it was the fact the Hollywood hates intricate mythology and that having a "mood suit" was a easy out

[I Am The Knight]

I'd rather have a suit in a can.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Even though I've always been a DC guy over Marvel, I can't help thinking Thor will be my favorite superhero this year... mainly because I'm sorta dreading the period in the movie where Hal's the typical Reynolds smartass.

[Project862006]

^well he was exacty like reynolds in secret origins

[Weadazoid]

I'd rather have a suit in a can.


And don't forget Nick Cage and alot....and I mean alot of fiberoptics.... and a flexible translucent muscle suit.


oh yeah.... and no flying... at all.


Throw is some Polar Bear guards....

[camp Blood]

Wait nick cage wasn't going to fly?

[Weadazoid]

Nope according to WB's genious producer who helped bring us Batman 89...............

Flying is gay.
no cape either the cape...is gay.


Frightening eh?

[camp Blood]

Wow, they would have lost millions on that movie

But was my idea really as bad as that

[dnno1]

Even though I've always been a DC guy over Marvel, I can't help thinking Thor will be my favorite superhero this year... mainly because I'm sorta dreading the period in the movie where Hal's the typical Reynolds smartass.

I think Thor will do a little better than "Troy" or "Alexander", but, if they capture the right market, Green Lantern will almost be as good as POTC4.

[camp Blood]

I know it will do better then superman:R but I hope it doesn't turn put like spiderman strong start mediocre ending and then flashing out in the pan and getting a reboot, all be it a promising one

[Sam]

Even though I've always been a DC guy over Marvel, I can't help thinking Thor will be my favorite superhero this year... mainly because I'm sorta dreading the period in the movie where Hal's the typical Reynolds smartass.

But Hal IS a smartass, specially at the time he first became GL.

[HighFivingMF]

Even though I've always been a DC guy over Marvel, I can't help thinking Thor will be my favorite superhero this year... mainly because I'm sorta dreading the period in the movie where Hal's the typical Reynolds smartass.
Yeah, I don't get why they get the character to act like themselves either.

[Weadazoid]

I think Thor will do a little better than "Troy" or "Alexander", but, if they capture the right market, Green Lantern will almost be as good as POTC4.


Strange comparison Troy & Alexander.

Troy only made 130 US box office and Alexander bombed badly with only 34 million.

It is not a time piece, it is not a huge battle with multiple soildgers on the field kind of movie, oh and it kicks off the summer so I really doubt those numbers are likely, unless it is Van Helsing bad... and that is doubtful.



Pirates may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie.

[dnno1]

Strange comparison Troy & Alexander.

It is not a time piece, it is not a huge battle with multiple [soldiers] on the field kind of movie.

Pirates may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie.

They are films based on mythology ("Alexander not so much"). There will be a battle on the field with multiple soldiers (against the storm giants). They are similar in those aspects.

POTC: AWE left a bad taste? Are you kidding? That film made a world wide gross of almost $1 billion. I find it hard to believe that a film that had almost 150 million people watch over a summer left a bad taste for the next film. The producers wouldn't pursue this fourth installment if that were the case.

[dnno1]

Strange comparison Troy & Alexander.

It is not a time piece, it is not a huge battle with multiple [soldiers] on the field kind of movie.

Pirates may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie.

They are films based on mythology ("Alexander not so much"). There will be a battle on the field with multiple soldiers (against the storm giants). They are similar in those aspects.

POTC: AWE left a bad taste? Are you kidding? That film made a world wide gross of almost $1 billion. I find it hard to believe that a film that had almost 150 million people watch over a summer left a bad taste for the next film. The producers wouldn't pursue this fourth installment if that were the case.

[lixdexia]

They are films based on mythology ("Alexander not so much"). There will be a battle on the field with multiple soldiers (against the storm giants). They are similar in those aspects.

POTC: AWE left a bad taste? Are you kidding? That film made a world wide gross of almost $1 billion. I find it hard to believe that a film that had almost 150 million people watch over a summer left a bad taste for the next film. The producers wouldn't pursue this fourth installment if that were the case.
!?! really?
spider-man 3, x3, wolverine, and ghost rider haven't shown you this? if the studio still thinks the property is viable they'll make sequels to poorly received films. especially if they were also profitable.

[Brian Braddock]

Man, if Troy hadnt omitted the Gods it would have been such a better movie.

[dnno1]

!?! really?
spider-man 3, x3, wolverine, and ghost rider haven't shown you this? if the studio still thinks the property is viable they'll make sequels to poorly received films. especially if they were also profitable.

That's beside the point. It's hard to say that POTC:AWE left a bad taste in anyone's mouth when it made $960 million (on a $300 million budget).

[lixdexia]

That's beside the point. It's hard to say that POTC:AWE left a bad taste in anyone's mouth when it made $960 million (on a $300 million budget).
that's exactly the point! each of those movies turned a substantial profit, spider-man 3 even out preformed pirates 3 domestically (where the studios make the most money) and they were all panned critically and by their fanbase.

[dnno1]

that's exactly the point! each of those movies turned a substantial profit, spider-man 3 even out preformed pirates 3 domestically (where the studios make the most money) and they were all panned critically and by their fanbase.

No, before you rudely interrupted, Weadazoid insinuated that the next installment in the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie. Like I said before, the box office results of the last movie prove otherwise. That is the point. Weather films like X3, Wolverine, or Spider-Man 3 made money is beside the point. This discussion is about "Pirates of the Caribbean" and whether the last installment left a bad taste for the current one being filmed.

[lixdexia]

No, before you rudely interrupted, Weadazoid insinuated that the next installment in the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie. Like I said before, the box office results of the last movie prove otherwise. That is the point.
oh **** you and your rudely interrupted, you don't want people adding to the discussion take it to pm. my point is that you insinuated that there was no bad taste left in the GA's mouth because it was profitable and that is not the case. to illustrate that i mentioned other similarly profitable movies which left a well documented bad taste

[mcallima]

No, before you rudely interrupted, Weadazoid insinuated that the next installment in the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise may be badly hampered by a bad taste left by the last movie. Like I said before, the box office results of the last movie prove otherwise. That is the point. Weather films like X3, Wolverine, or Spider-Man 3 made money is beside the point. This discussion is about "Pirates of the Caribbean" and whether the last installment left a bad taste for the current one being filmed.

I think his point is that the critical failure of these films will affect the box office of the NEXT film in the series. Using Pirates as an example, I was underwhelmed by the 2nd, so I never bothered to see the 3rd. It's not like the theatre gives you your money back if you dislike a movie. So while POTC3 may have had a high box office, there are likely a lot of people who paid to see it, disliked it, and won't pay to see the 4th. That's really the entire underpinning of the franchise movie system - trying to build box office momentum so that your flick isn't tied completely to reviews/word of mouth.

[Weadazoid]

Pirates 3 'only' got to 309 in the states after Pirates 2 popped up to 425 mill or so state side.


X3 made the most out of any X men movie, but Wolverine clearly suffered.

Spiderman 4 with Rami was axed partly because the studio heads... you know the ones that had made just as much as Pirates felt the audience would have negative feelings for Toby at this point.


Trust me Captain Jack... with not other big returning star power equals some trouble.... I belive On stranger tides opened huge and then fell like a rock....bad Word of Mouth stateside


BUT... the foreign box office should still be pretty good. I doubt it gets near 300 million in Domestic.

[Saint]

That's beside the point. It's hard to say that POTC:AWE left a bad taste in anyone's mouth when it made $960 million (on a $300 million budget).

Since you can't have a bad taste in your mouth until after you spend your money on the product, this doesn't really follow.

[dnno1]

I think his point is that the critical failure of these films will affect the box office of the NEXT film in the series. Using Pirates as an example, I was underwhelmed by the 2nd, so I never bothered to see the 3rd. It's not like the theatre gives you your money back if you dislike a movie. So while POTC3 may have had a high box office, there are likely a lot of people who paid to see it, disliked it, and won't pay to see the 4th. That's really the entire underpinning of the franchise movie system - trying to build box office momentum so that your flick isn't tied completely to reviews/word of mouth.

You are not understanding either. I initially used Pirates because it will go up against Green Lantern in this summer (I wasn't just randomly pulling a film out of the sky). Because of the revenue history of the franchise over the last three pictures, there is no reason to believe that the fourth installment won't have the same result, and it would be over optimistic to think that a picture like "Green Lantern" (or "Thor" and "Captain America" for that matter) would out perform that franchise. The other films that were mentioned have nothing to do with Pirates 3 giving a bad taste to Pirates 4 (which I don't see) and whether they made a profit or not are beside the point.

[dnno1]

Since you can't have a bad taste in your mouth until after you spend your money on the product, this doesn't really follow.

All I see is that POTC: AWE made $960 million. To me I find it hard to believe it left a bad taste in anyone's mouth if it made that much money. In fact, that is an indication that it was very popular and was a box office hit (if it were bad, people wouldn't have gone to see the film, frankly). The producers more than 3 times what the spent on the film in revenue, so there shouldn't be any complaints there either. There are not too many other places that you can legitimately get that type of return on your investment in less than 6 months. If you don't follow that, then you just don't want to.

[dnno1]

Pirates 3 'only' got to 309 in the states after Pirates 2 popped up to 425 mill or so state side.

And it made over $650 million overseas (more than it did with the second film). If you haven't noticed, that's been the trend over the last 3 years (the top films have made most of their money overseas than domestically), and it has nothing to do with whether the film was bad or not (it was still the highest grossing film that year and it outperformed films like "Shrek the Third", "Harry Potter", and SM3). Like I said before, it was a popular film and (with the fact that Johnny Depp is sill the lead actor) there is no reason to believe that it won't do well this summer (one of the top grossing films of the year).


X3 made the most out of any X men movie, but Wolverine clearly suffered.

Spiderman 4 with Rami was axed partly because the studio heads... you know the ones that had made just as much as Pirates felt the audience would have negative feelings for Toby at this point.

These films are not going up against Green Lantern this year, so I don't know why you are bringing them up.

Trust me Captain Jack... with not other big returning star power equals some trouble.... I belive On stranger tides opened huge and then fell like a rock....bad Word of Mouth stateside

BUT... the foreign box office should still be pretty good. I doubt it gets near 300 million in Domestic.

Trust me, it was the economy that made the third film under perform (by a little over $100 million) and as long as Johnny Depp is in the lead role, the other actors are expendable.

[PreK]

In fact, that is an indication that it was very popular and was a box office hit (if it were bad, people wouldn't have gone to see the film, frankly).
Doesn't apply to franchise sequels, especially if it's following up a hugely popular film. Public interest is certified and so is goodwill from prior installments, so crowds will gather no matter the reviews. They'll want to see for themselves if it's good or bad.

[Weadazoid]

Since you can't have a bad taste in your mouth until after you spend your money on the product, this doesn't really follow.



right....I agree & seriously I doubt Transformers 3 is going to come close to 300 million. The 2nd made more then the first, but not because it was better, because after the first people were enthused


If Transformers 3 fails, it won't surprise me at all.


The 2nd Matrix movie did very well, but it left that bad taste.... so the 3rd movie fell appart.

[dnno1]

Doesn't apply to franchise sequels, especially if it's following up a hugely popular film. Public interest is certified and so is goodwill from prior installments, so crowds will gather no matter the reviews. They'll want to see for themselves if it's good or bad.

Word of mouth counts a lot. If the sequel gets bad reviews or if it isn't marketed well it could still flop regardless, so yes, popularity does count in franchise sequels ("Superman IV" anyone?).

[HighFivingMF]

Word of mouth counts a lot. If the sequel gets bad reviews or if it isn't marketed well it could still flop regardless, so yes, popularity does count in franchise sequels ("Superman IV" anyone?).
Superman 4 had very little interest because nobody liked Superman 3 and Supergirl. Not to say the movie wasn't horrible, but 2 previous installments in a row will kill most of the interest.

[dnno1]

Superman 4 had very little interest because nobody liked Superman 3 and Supergirl. Not to say the movie wasn't horrible, but 2 previous installments in a row will kill most of the interest.

There is no proof of that and it wasn't true. The fact of the matter is that Warner Brothers sold the filming right to Superman IV to Cannon Films. In turn Cannon took $40 million from it's film budget and spent it on Silvester Stallone's picture, "Cobra". The lower budget, and the fact that the story was written by newcomer (to screenplays), Christopher reeve had more to do with it's poor performance than what happened in Superman 3 or Supergirl.

[HighFivingMF]

There is no proof of that and it wasn't true. The fact of the matter is that Warner Brothers sold the filming right to Superman IV to Cannon Films. In turn Cannon took $40 million from it's film budget and spent it on Silvester Stallone's picture, "Cobra". The lower budget, and the fact that the story was written by newcomer (to screenplays), Christopher reeve had more to do with it's poor performance than what happened in Superman 3 or Supergirl.
Nobody seeing the movie knew ANY of that. What they did know was that Superman 3 wasn't that great and neither was the spin-off. Nobody said "Christopher Reeve wrote the story? I think I'll pass." or "Most of the money went to the Stallone movie!? I'll see that instead."

[Weadazoid]

Superman 4 had very little interest because nobody liked Superman 3 and Supergirl. Not to say the movie wasn't horrible, but 2 previous installments in a row will kill most of the interest.


Seriously the Matrix Trillogy is the best example of this. The 2nd one had huge numbers for an R rated movie, but critics slammed it and many people were like..................

THis sucked.... this didn't make sense.... what in the world was Roy Jones doing in this movie?


so.... the huge plan to split a gigantic movie into two movies flopped badly when the 3rd came out just 6 months later.



and while yes the WW box office has become more of a factor these days, Domestic US box office is still what counts the most.


Trust me if GL only makes 120 million US but makes 400 million over seas even though it has a 520 WW..... the WB aint making a sequal.


Buena Vista dropped Narnia, even though the 2nd perfromed well overseas, and I don't think Fox is going to continue the series soley based on overseas figures.... that gamble did not pay off.

[greenlantern248]

How does this apply to this thread titled: Here is Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern!

How about we talk about the new Jordan toy

[The Sage]

Probably if it makes at least 300 mill domestic, it'll get a sequel.

[The Sage]

Probably if it makes at least 300 mill domestic, it'll get a sequel.

[camp Blood]

And merchandising is a gold mine I am already sold on a replica ring as long as it's under $50

[dnno1]

Nobody seeing the movie knew ANY of that. What they did know was that Superman 3 wasn't that great and neither was the spin-off. Nobody said "Christopher Reeve wrote the story? I think I'll pass." or "Most of the money went to the Stallone movie!? I'll see that instead."

What they saw was the end result: a badly done movie that was poorly advertised. You get what you pay for. There is no hard clear evidence that people didn't go to see "Superman IV" because of "Superman III". Oh yeah, and if you search around you will find interviews where Christopher Reeve said that whe was writing for the picture (http://www.supermaniv.com/sivweb/S4Videos/S4_ET_REEVE.html) before the film was released. His name was even shown in the credits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvoAempNTY#t=1m47s) as the writer in any of the trailers they aired. It even stared Margot Kidder and Gene Hackman, who were not present in "Superman III". Anyone that cared to go to see the film had ample time to know that he wrote the story and who would be in it.

[Syncos]

There is no proof of that and it wasn't true. The fact of the matter is that Warner Brothers sold the filming right to Superman IV to Cannon Films. In turn Cannon took $40 million from it's film budget and spent it on Silvester Stallone's picture, "Cobra". The lower budget, and the fact that the story was written by newcomer (to screenplays), Christopher reeve had more to do with it's poor performance than what happened in Superman 3 or Supergirl.

Nobody seeing the movie knew ANY of that. What they did know was that Superman 3 wasn't that great and neither was the spin-off. Nobody said "Christopher Reeve wrote the story? I think I'll pass." or "Most of the money went to the Stallone movie!? I'll see that instead."

Seriously. I don't think either mattered all that much. Even if a movie doesn't perform well, people will see it if it is marketed well and has a good trailer. But even then, you need to have a good movie and good word of mouth to propagate a movie farther after it's out.

Seriously the Matrix Trillogy is the best example of this. The 2nd one had huge numbers for an R rated movie, but critics slammed it and many people were like..................

THis sucked.... this didn't make sense.... what in the world was Roy Jones doing in this movie?


so.... the huge plan to split a gigantic movie into two movies flopped badly when the 3rd came out just 6 months later.



and while yes the WW box office has become more of a factor these days, Domestic US box office is still what counts the most.


Trust me if GL only makes 120 million US but makes 400 million over seas even though it has a 520 WW..... the WB aint making a sequal.


Buena Vista dropped Narnia, even though the 2nd perfromed well overseas, and I don't think Fox is going to continue the series soley based on overseas figures.... that gamble did not pay off.

Narnia still got a third. Which didn't perform all that well in either domestic or overseas. The fact of the matter was that the studio wanted another LOTR and didn't get it. If studio makes a billion dollars on a movie, they're going to make a sequel, it doesn't matter if 70% of that comes from worldwide.

[Weadazoid]

Seriously. I don't think either mattered all that much. Even if a movie doesn't perform well, people will see it if it is marketed well and has a good trailer. But even then, you need to have a good movie and good word of mouth to propagate a movie farther after it's out.



Narnia still got a third. Which didn't perform all that well in either domestic or overseas. The fact of the matter was that the studio wanted another LOTR and didn't get it. If studio makes a billion dollars on a movie, they're going to make a sequel, it doesn't matter if 70% of that comes from worldwide.



Narnia did get a 3rd, but Buena vista was smart and said no. In the end Fox probably will lose money on Narnia the franchise is done for now.

Iron Man 3 will have some issues to overcome IMO... cause the 2nd just wasn't as good as the first.

[Weadazoid]

How does this apply to this thread titled: Here is Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern!

How about we talk about the new Jordan toy



I agree....dnno chose to bring up box office and say Thor wasn't going to do all that well, but GL could be as big as Pirates.

Thats what started this debate.

[dnno1]

Actually, it was GoblinWirlwind (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19434610#post19434610) that made the comment that he thought Thor would be a better film than Green Lantern that started this.

[camp Blood]

I think both are going to be great

[HighFivingMF]

What they saw was the end result: a badly done movie that was poorly advertised. You get what you pay for. There is no hard clear evidence that people didn't go to see "Superman IV" because of "Superman III". Oh yeah, and if you search around you will find interviews where Christopher Reeve said that whe was writing for the picture (http://www.supermaniv.com/sivweb/S4Videos/S4_ET_REEVE.html) before the film was released. His name was even shown in the credits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvoAempNTY#t=1m47s) as the writer in any of the trailers they aired. It even stared Margot Kidder and Gene Hackman, who were not present in "Superman III". Anyone that cared to go to see the film had ample time to know that he wrote the story and who would be in it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/SimpsonMmyers/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif

[Weadazoid]

Actually, it was GoblinWirlwind (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19434610#post19434610) that made the comment that he thought Thor would be a better film than Green Lantern that started this.



LOL to that... you can't base anything concrete off a trailer.

The Thor CGI seems more polished in the trailer, I will give it that.

GL seems to have more of 'mass' appeal feel based off the trailer I will give it that.



Thor has a much better release date... few dates are more coveted.

Kick off the SUmmer (first weekend in May)
Memorial Day (last weekend in May)
4rth of July

but at Batman proved out June can be very profitable.... IN the past JUne dates have been hard for SUmmer relases....my theory was always that high school kids (who generate alot of revenue then and now) were slightly hampered by finals week.

Parents are more lax now and if it is finals week, they are less likely to chain a kid to thier books for an entire weekend, just because of finals week.

[camp Blood]

Why is everybody saying the CGI was bad in the trailer it looked fine to me

What scenes are you talking about

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Actually, it was GoblinWirlwind (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19434610#post19434610) that made the comment that he thought Thor would be a better film than Green Lantern that started this.

Okay, just for the record, I didn't mean to start some huge argument. All I meant by what I said was that Hal's smartass attitude annoys me personally, thus I'm more likely to enjoy Thor over GL.

[Silver Knight]

So will the costume be two tone green or not?

[lixdexia]

So will the costume be two tone green or not?
how do you mean? i guess if you mean regular green and almost black green

[Silver Knight]

how do you mean? i guess if you mean regular green and almost black green

http://i55.tinypic.com/2r7t6iq.jpg

[lixdexia]

huh. do you know what scale that is?

[Silver Knight]

huh. do you know what scale that is?

Looks like a 3" figure.

[Showtime]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/SimpsonMmyers/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif

That Dawson Vanderbeek GIF is hilarious.

[dnno1]

LOL to that... you can't base anything concrete off a trailer.

The Thor CGI seems more polished in the trailer, I will give it that.

GL seems to have more of 'mass' appeal feel based off the trailer I will give it that.



Thor has a much better release date... few dates are more coveted.

Kick off the SUmmer (first weekend in May)
Memorial Day (last weekend in May)
4rth of July

but at Batman proved out June can be very profitable.... IN the past JUne dates have been hard for SUmmer relases....my theory was always that high school kids (who generate alot of revenue then and now) were slightly hampered by finals week.

Parents are more lax now and if it is finals week, they are less likely to chain a kid to thier books for an entire weekend, just because of finals week.

First off, who said I was basing my assesment on the trailers? I am basing it on films similar to the pictures. Remeber I said that Thor would be more like "Troy" or "Alexander" as far as box office results. It really seems like you are the one basing it on trailers with your comparison of CGI styles used in both. As far as May being a better release date, that month has only been successful for Marvel films. Prior to Spiderman, it was not customary to release a blocbuster film in May, although the Marvel team decided to buck the system with Spiderman. Now it is more like a tradition (not unlike the Dallas Coboys always wearing white). Note that you don't normally see other studios as successful in the same Month. Another part of their strategy is that they release overseas before releasing domestic. The Spider-Man films released in Japan before releasing in the US and the Iron Man films release in Europe prior to releasing in the States. If you don't belive me read this article (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/05/summer-box-office-sees-its-worst-memorial-day-in-17-years.html) or even this one (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/06/why-did-memorial-day-turn-into-doomsday-for-the-movie-business.html). You also are missing the fact that May is the month of the NBA and NHL playoffs, the Indianpolis 500, and major league basball games. If you have big cities like Los Angeles, Chigago, Boston, Miami, or Phileadelphia involved, it may factor in and detract from the box office numbers. I would have to disagree that May is a better month. It has only been fortunate for Marvel.

[Excelsior.]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/SimpsonMmyers/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif

That guy looks like he could've made a good Hal Jordan.

[Savage]

...Huh. I guess so...Maybe for another hero like...Idunno...The Flash or someone. Neat observation though. I did almost mistake him for Reynolds when I was scrolling down.

[Savage]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2r7t6iq.jpg

Well that's slightly bluer than expected. At least the movie version is a veeery dark green.

[Silver Knight]

I still believe the costume will be all green when Hal is using all his powers.

[JAK®]

I still believe the costume will be all green when Hal is using all his powers.
Only in the sense that it will reflect the green aura around him.

[Silver Knight]

Only in the sense that it will reflect the green aura around him.

Yes, do you think this will happen?

[camp Blood]

A slight glow when he's not using is power but has it ready to go or in flight would be nice

[Silver Knight]

At the end when he is maxxing out all his power I want him all green. That would be soo bada$$.

[camp Blood]

Yeah something like in first flight

[Silver Knight]

Yeah something like in first flight

Yes exactly!

[HighFivingMF]

...Huh. I guess so...Maybe for another hero like...Idunno...The Flash or someone. Neat observation though. I did almost mistake him for Reynolds when I was scrolling down.
He did play John Wesley Shipp's son, didn't he? :oldrazz:

[Weadazoid]

First off, who said I was basing my assesment on the trailers? I am basing it on films similar to the pictures. Remeber I said that Thor would be more like "Troy" or "Alexander" as far as box office results. It really seems like you are the one basing it on trailers with your comparison of CGI styles used in both. As far as May being a better release date, that month has only been successful for Marvel films. Prior to Spiderman, it was not customary to release a blocbuster film in May, although the Marvel team decided to buck the system with Spiderman. Now it is more like a tradition (not unlike the Dallas Coboys always wearing white). Note that you don't normally see other studios as successful in the same Month. Another part of their strategy is that they release overseas before releasing domestic. The Spider-Man films released in Japan before releasing in the US and the Iron Man films release in Europe prior to releasing in the States. If you don't belive me read this article (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/05/summer-box-office-sees-its-worst-memorial-day-in-17-years.html) or even this one (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/06/why-did-memorial-day-turn-into-doomsday-for-the-movie-business.html). You also are missing the fact that May is the month of the NBA and NHL playoffs, the Indianpolis 500, and major league basball games. If you have big cities like Los Angeles, Chigago, Boston, Miami, or Phileadelphia involved, it may factor in and detract from the box office numbers. I would have to disagree that May is a better month. It has only been fortunate for Marvel.




I was laughing out loud at Goblin, not you.... because I am guessing he made the call based off trailer shots.


I then just assessed what one could generally say from the trailers which isn't much.



and I do remember you Box office prediction... you are basicly saying THor will make a bit more then 34 (Alexander) to 130 (Troy) Million in the US box office....which is Rubbish.


You picked two very odd movies to compare in terms of box office.... Alexander was a winter release it was SLAMMED by critics and audiences alike and it died quickly.


Troy is a bit closer in terms of comparison - early Summer release 2004 -but very hard for the audience to relate to.... I mean Gladiator had some history to it, Braveheart had some history to it.... Troy is like a fairy tale.

[Saint]

Edit.

[Enlil]

new pic of reynolds in GL suit:
http://www.cinewebradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1994:nouvelle-photo-de-ryan-reynolds-en-green-lantern-&catid=29:the-news&Itemid=41

[Saint]

I believe that's one of the posters from Comic-Con, but I think that's the first good look we've had of it.

Mask looks good.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I'm glad that's not the color tone in the movie. That mint green does not look good.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Why is RR sporting the traditional Hal Jordan hair in The Change-Up and not in Green Lantern?

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2011/01/the-change-up-ryan-reynolds-jason-bateman-600x620.jpg

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