View Full Version : How will the general public react to this film?
Timstuff
07-21-2010, 03:19 AM
Personally, I think that this movie should be pretty good. There is so much quality talent behind it that I'd have a hard time believing that the movie will turn out to be a stinker. However, I am not so sure that the general public is necessarily going to be receptive of it. My older brother thinks that the Superhero genre is getting stale, and his reaction to the images for this movie has been "This movie is going to be a huge flop. They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for new superheroes, aren't they?" He says that if they had taken this exact same cast and crew and told them to make a Thor movie that had nothing to do with the Marvel version it might turn out pretty awesome, but he insists that this is going to just be the pre-processed pop culture version of the mythology, and that the whole thing just plain looks goofy.
I don't know... What do you guys think? I like what I've seen so far, and even though there have been a couple of things I've been a little leery of, like how they cast Heimdall, some of the design choices, the general worry that the New Mexico setting is going to be too dull for a film about Norse mythology, too much time spent on "franchise building," etc... But even so, I have an optimistic outlook on the film, and I am hoping it turns out good. However, I am not sure how the general audience reaction is going to be. My brother in general has a lot of disdain for superheroes and thinks it's time that they stopped making movies out of them so he's probably not the best person to ask, but what about the people you've shown the pictures and stuff to? Are non-geeks showing interest in this, or are they writing it off as being cheesy / campy / whatever?
Ipodman
07-21-2010, 03:32 AM
My friends are not even sure who Thor is.
\S/uperman
07-21-2010, 05:23 AM
I predict no sequel.
Original Spawn
07-21-2010, 05:40 AM
If many people saw that horrible clash of titans remake then people are going to see thor, but that will only happen if the trailer is cool and the movie has plenty of action scennes, the movie atmosfere is probably going to be like Hellboy, i hope it makes well in the box office.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 07:46 AM
I couldn't say how the general public will react because when it comes to Thor, I'm not really part of the general public. He's my favorite character and as near and dear to me as any piece of fiction can be to a reasonably normal person (i.e. I'm not obsessed or going out to cosplay as Thor or anything).
That said, I honestly don't really care how the general public reacts to it. Whether the movie flops or succeeds beyond anyone's wildest expectations, I'm just happy they're making a Thor movie in the first place. He hasn't been one of the more popular characters for decades now, so I'd pretty much given up on the idea of seeing something as huge as a big, blockbuster movie based on him. Nothing I can do will change the general public's reaction, whatever it may be, so I'm content to just bask in the awesome that is this movie's very existence. :)
TheWatcher
07-21-2010, 10:51 AM
I know people who barely know who Thor is but are still pumped because they know it is connected to Iron Man and TIH.
Surfer
07-21-2010, 10:59 AM
After seeing these pictures released, I don't know how anyone could think this movie would fail. It looks epic, but of course I am prejudice.:yay:
Surfer
Weadazoid
07-21-2010, 11:23 AM
Personally, I think that this movie should be pretty good. There is so much quality talent behind it that I'd have a hard time believing that the movie will turn out to be a stinker. However, I am not so sure that the general public is necessarily going to be receptive of it. My older brother thinks that the Superhero genre is getting stale, and his reaction to the images for this movie has been "This movie is going to be a huge flop. They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for new superheroes, aren't they?" He says that if they had taken this exact same cast and crew and told them to make a Thor movie that had nothing to do with the Marvel version it might turn out pretty awesome, but he insists that this is going to just be the pre-processed pop culture version of the mythology, and that the whole thing just plain looks goofy.
I don't know... What do you guys think? I like what I've seen so far, and even though there have been a couple of things I've been a little leery of, like how they cast Heimdall, some of the design choices, the general worry that the New Mexico setting is going to be too dull for a film about Norse mythology, too much time spent on "franchise building," etc... But even so, I have an optimistic outlook on the film, and I am hoping it turns out good. However, I am not sure how the general audience reaction is going to be. My brother in general has a lot of disdain for superheroes and thinks it's time that they stopped making movies out of them so he's probably not the best person to ask, but what about the people you've shown the pictures and stuff to? Are non-geeks showing interest in this, or are they writing it off as being cheesy / campy / whatever?
New Mexico is a good place to shoot beautiful sceanery and remember the audience will also get a taste of Asgaurd as I am geussing a good 30 to 40% of the film takes place in Asgaurd.
I think the trailer will wow people and make them realize this is no typical comic book movie it's setting alone should show this. This is the 1rst Superhero who will come from a 'different world' into ours.
A huge mistake with the SUperman reboot IMO was to do nothing with Krypton, I mean come on they should have showed off some CGI there.
The sets alone should attract curious movie goers who will be wondering...and wanting to see what this movie is like. I think if anything the setting of a different realm will reivigorate the comic book movie.
S.A.A.D.
07-21-2010, 11:52 AM
Timstuff,you should tell your older brother that the comic book movie genre isn't an exception when it comes to something getting old,and that nothing can stop it's self from becoming old. As for the general public from my side of the fence,I haven't seen or heard anyone badmouthing the Thor movie,and I'm honestly considering the idea of trying to raise awareness of it at the movie theater I work in,but of course I will have to ask a key person if I can do it. So I don't get in trouble.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 11:54 AM
Then you should tell him that, ironically, there was a part of a Norse myth devoted specifically to that idea. :awesome:
sha1243
07-21-2010, 11:57 AM
It all depends on how they advertise the movie with trailers in pictures if they make look great the general audience will go see it. Look at iron man they accepted that movie and did great for both general audience and comic book fans. I have a feeling that Thor is going to be to attract general audience cause so far things look good. Some may not like it cause its not their thing but there been movies that looked really bad but most people went go see the movie anyway. Thor will do fine cause they cast hemsworth so i can see a lot of girls going to see movie cause the main star looks good on screen. You guys see what fan girls did with twilight(not that im comparing that movie to Thor) they can do the same with Thor.
S.A.A.D.
07-21-2010, 12:05 PM
Then you should tell him that, ironically, there was a part of a Norse myth devoted specifically to that idea. :awesome:
What idea is it that you spoke of?
S.A.A.D.
07-21-2010, 12:08 PM
On the other hand,I think that lots of people right now feel indifferent towards the movie,wether they are aware of it or not.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 12:12 PM
What idea is it that you spoke of?
That time makes everything old. It was in that myth where the giant Utgard-Loki challenges Thor to lift his cat, wrestle his nurse, and empty his drinking horn in one gulp as a way to embarrass Thor. Thor fails at all three tasks because Utgard-Loki's cat was secretly the Midgard Serpent (although Thor did still lift it a little bit), his nurse was old age personified, and his horn fed into the ocean.
S.A.A.D.
07-21-2010, 12:16 PM
How did the Serpent cause Thor to fail at doing all three things? Did Loki do something to it?
SuperFerret
07-21-2010, 12:16 PM
Give it an awesome trailer and the GA will go see it.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 01:22 PM
How did the Serpent cause Thor to fail at doing all three things? Did Loki do something to it?
The Serpent didn't cause Thor to fail, Utgard-Loki did. He used magic to disguise the Midgard Serpent as his cat, so when Thor went to lift it, he found it too heavy. The mythological Thor isn't necessarily as strong as the comics portray him. He couldn't beat Utgard-Loki's nurse at wrestling because the nurse was the personification of old age, which nobody can overcome. He couldn't drain Utgard-Loki's drinking horn because Utgard-Loki secretly put the other end of the horn into the ocean, so Thor was actually trying to drink all the water in the ocean, which nobody can do.
Flint Marko
07-21-2010, 03:58 PM
I've never met anyone like your older brother Timstuff. All of the people that I know think that as long as good movies keep coming out of the superhero genre, keep em rollin. Most of my friends actually really take an interest in superhero movies, marvel especially, because they know I'm passionate about it.
The only time I heard this opinion expressed was in the most recent issue of Entertainment Weekly. Someone wrote an article claiming that superhero movies have been going downhill ever since TDK, but it was an incredibly weak argument. He cited Jonah Hex and Kick-ass's disappointing box office returns as evidence, but completely failed to mention Iron man 2.
So long story short, I see no reason to think that the genre is dwindling right now.
But as for the public at large, its to early to tell but honestly I think it could go either way. Thor is not well-known and does not have the same appeal as spider-man or iron man. He's a much different character, and it'll be interesting to see how the public reacts to this movie.
The one thing that I think can either make or break this movies financial success is promotion. Everyone I know who saw the incredible hulk loved it, but it didnt make as much money as it could have because it was so ridiculously underpromoted. But I think marvel knows what they're doing so I'm not to worried. Plus Thor is already generating more buzz now than I thought it ever would, so thats a great sign
Original Spawn
07-21-2010, 04:04 PM
Thor has to kick ass.
marcvader
07-21-2010, 04:21 PM
It's all about the trailers folks.
HUMANIMAL
07-21-2010, 04:38 PM
people who have no idea will think what the....why is thor looking so futuristic and why is he some sort of superhero...i mean most know thor as a norse god and will have a completely different picture in mind than this technical advanced thing. but as stated if the trailer is good they will inform themselves a bit more why and how this is going to be connected with comic superhero movies
the dmg
07-21-2010, 04:40 PM
It's all about the trailers folks.
I'd say a great trailer will get people's attention, and if Marvel sticks to it's guns by using IM/IM2 to piggyback, I think it will do pretty well. A lot of people are into the fantasy genre, and while this is based off of comic book Thor, if they make it seem like an epic, people will watch it.
kedrell
07-21-2010, 04:49 PM
To be truly successful(not just temporarily but long term as well) a film needs 4 things(listed in order of importance):
1)A good product/movie
2)Good marketing
3)A decent release date
4)Some good luck
Aesop Rocks
07-21-2010, 05:09 PM
Every single one of my friends IRL are "general audience".
I keep things up to date on my Facebook, with Thor.
They all simply love it and can't wait.
Original Spawn
07-21-2010, 05:14 PM
My friends are general audience too and one of them says that maibe he is going to see avengers but not thor, he thinks the idea stupid but later he likes to see Michael Bay movies and 2012.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 05:18 PM
people who have no idea will think what the....why is thor looking so futuristic and why is he some sort of superhero...i mean most know thor as a norse god and will have a completely different picture in mind than this technical advanced thing. but as stated if the trailer is good they will inform themselves a bit more why and how this is going to be connected with comic superhero movies
I think I've said this before, but I believe people are overestimating the general public's awareness of the Norse myths. Back in the day, Stan Lee chose to adapt Thor as a superhero precisely because the Norse myths were not well known, giving him more freedom to get away with the myriad changes he implemented in the translation from mythological god to superhero. Marvel's Thor himself has raised some awareness of the myths since then--I myself first got interested in them due to Marvel's Thor comics--but overall I think they're still pretty much "that other mythology" to most people. Hell, most people have only a vague awareness of the major gods and goddesses of the Greek/Roman myths, which are by far the best known myths.
Aesop Rocks
07-21-2010, 05:19 PM
The General Audience's Idea of THOR: A flying viking.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 05:21 PM
A pretty large subset of the general audience's perception of Thor: "Who?"
HUMANIMAL
07-21-2010, 05:52 PM
maybe not informed very well but we had these myths in school and people know that it was a very ancient time period where they believed in these gods. these gods maybe were advanced cause they flew wich now is technically explained and not only magically. but i think most will think on wikings from older days with alot of fur and long red beards and stuff...
Chewy
07-21-2010, 05:53 PM
There's no telling until a trailer's out there.
S.A.A.D.
07-21-2010, 05:54 PM
Of course The Corpulent1,because for much of their lives,the big three have been forced down their throats. Good old Batman,Spiderman,and Superman. This is the main purpose as to why I'm gonna attempt to raise awareness when it comes to Thor at work,and others,normally it's not something I would consider,by that I mean wanting to post information of some upcoming comic book movie where I work. I don't believe at all that even some of the general audience even knows about the non Marvel version of Thor,not even close,just a subgroup however.
Ipodman
07-21-2010, 07:12 PM
The general public not knowing much about Thor is a good thing right?
Just like how Iron Man was such a unfamilar character that everyone was surprised the movie was so good.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 07:46 PM
Depends. People are likelier to watch a movie they know stuff about, so unless Thor gets a lot of positive word-of-mouth, it might not get the asses in the seats. Then again, it'll be marketed as "the next big Marvel movie," so after the Iron Man and Hulk films, people will probably be interested based on that.
Ipodman
07-21-2010, 07:56 PM
They have to make the trailer really epic... and attach it at the front of alot of movies to get as much attention as possible. I don't think a poster of a dude holding a hammer will do it
Flint Marko
07-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Even though its unlikely, I'd love to see them implement something in the trailers that shows that its part of the MCU, somehow show that its connected to iron man or captain america or something. That'd be difficult to achieve but effective if they pulled it off right
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 09:43 PM
Well, the big "Marvel Studios" credit that will likely be part of the trailer might do it. ;)
misjuevos
07-21-2010, 09:44 PM
Thor could be a turning point in the genre. It will test the waters for upcoming dr strange and other fantasy or magic based heroes. Now all We need is for dc's gl to do good and marvel might start their cosmic hero movies. There are many directions to move the superhero genre forward and Thor is the beginning.
TheCorpulent1
07-21-2010, 09:47 PM
Oh man, I would kill to see a Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The current version led by Star-Lord, I mean.
Flint Marko
07-21-2010, 09:51 PM
Well, the big "Marvel Studios" credit that will likely be part of the trailer might do it. ;)
Haha true enough, didnt really consider that but I guess that'd do the trick
Thor could be a turning point in the genre. It will test the waters for upcoming dr strange and other fantasy or magic based heroes. Now all We need is for dc's gl to do good and marvel might start their cosmic hero movies. There are many directions to move the superhero genre forward and Thor is the beginning.
VERY true. My life would be complete if they make a successful Dr. Strange film one day
SuperFerret
07-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Thor could be a turning point in the genre. It will test the waters for upcoming dr strange and other fantasy or magic based heroes. Now all We need is for dc's gl to do good and marvel might start their cosmic hero movies. There are many directions to move the superhero genre forward and Thor is the beginning.
The reaction to this movie has two promising outcomes in my eyes. Firstly, and most importantly, Thor is a great character and mainstream appreciation of that will always be a positive. Secondly, the mythological superhero theme becoming big will likely force the Distiguished Competition over at Warner Bros. to make the one comic book movie that absolutely needs to be made: Wonder Woman.
misjuevos
07-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Oh man, I would kill to see a Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The current version led by Star-Lord, I mean.
I hear ya. If gl is good marvel could bring the nova Corp to compete wth gl Corp. I still hope marvel gets the silver surfer back. Need the surfer so they can use thanos and others freely in their universe.
Original Spawn
07-27-2010, 09:52 AM
Interesting how people donīt know who thor is, i thought that people knew about norse mythology.
wobbly
07-27-2010, 10:33 AM
Interesting how people donīt know who thor is, i thought that people knew about norse mythology.
Education today aint what it used to be. I have nephews and nieces who know sod all about English history, yet alone anything to do with the Vikings (they are genius's with I-Phones, Blackberry's and the like, mind you).
Anyway, regardless of how well the GA know Thor as a comic character or Thor in traditional mythology, if the film is good, gets good write ups and good word of mouth, they will come watch it.
Original Spawn
07-27-2010, 10:36 AM
I am 14 years old and when i was 5 or more i already knew of thor and loky, interesting how people donīt know of mythology like these.
TheCorpulent1
07-27-2010, 10:41 AM
The reaction at Comic-Con seemed overwhelmingly positive, although they're not really too representative of the general public.
Original Spawn
07-27-2010, 10:43 AM
If people liked and watched that trash of Clash of the titans then they are probably going to watch Thor.
TheCorpulent1
07-27-2010, 10:45 AM
Did a lot of people watch it? I thought Clash did not perform to expectations.
thegameq
07-27-2010, 10:45 AM
1. Marketing will make or break this film.
2. The trailer will have to be on the order of SM and IM and blow people away. The trailer has to get people talking.
3. Marvel will have to sell the relationship of this film to IM in both the trailers and heavily so in the film.
4. Which aspect of this film do you market most, magic or modern times? Should Marvel play up the Asgardian scenes moreso than the stuff that takes place in Midgard? Marvel could capitalize on the current popularity of the sword and sorcery genre if they go this route.
5. Hopkins and Portman will have to be front and center to lend the film credibility with the GA (moreso, Hopkins if you wish). If Hiddleston's (spchk?) Loki is memorable, he will play a big part in the marketing as well.
6. The Marvel banner alone will create buzz for this film among members of the GA that likes these types of films...potential fanboys in the making.
All that said, I suspect the GA will react to Thor in similar fashion to TIH; with some indifference and alot of questions.
There will be alot of questions about the character and his relation to Norse mythology--this in my opinion will be Thor's biggest stumbling block. Once people begin to make the connection between Thor and Norse mythology, the obvious questions and comparisons will arise.
Our explanations will be that of typical comicbook fans. The GA's reaction will be: "okayyyyy....?"
Weadazoid
07-27-2010, 11:21 AM
TIH was marred by bad marketing and a bad taste left by the first movie, if it was a stand alone well marketed movie it would have done far better IMO.
Thor has a huge release date, it will be the first action film of the summer, this is what helped make Iron Man such a huge success, trust me that date, plus a great trailer equals huge dividends.
S.A.A.D.
07-27-2010, 11:22 AM
The general audience who decides to see it will as usual,have stupid misconceptions about Marvel's Thor,and will stay a Thor fan with little understanding of his mythology. While the others will ignore Thor,and/or ignore it and share their stupid misconceptions about Thor with one liners or just one line that represents their disapproval in relation to Thor's movie. Then comes the new Thor fans who will buy his merchandise with little understanding of his mythology as well,relegating themselves to just sticking to what the Thor movie taught them about him and his world. Lastly,there will be the very rare new Thor fans that are from the general audience that will actually take the time to learn more about Marvel's Thor. Yeah,I had to be too on the nose here,about what the general audience will think of the movie in a nut shell.
Anubis Raptor
07-27-2010, 11:41 AM
How will they react?
Their heads will all explode simultaneously:hehe:
Son of Coul
07-29-2010, 12:09 PM
Since Thor is trending on twitter, I looked through some of the search results to get a feel of how people perceive the trailer and I'd say it's about 85% positive. The occasional person will say it looks like the worst thing in the world, everyone else thinks it looks amazing.
e- oh and as expected, lots o' people are drawn by Portman, like "hey Natalie Portman's in Thor, I love her!" and "I'll see Thor for Natalie Portman"
hatebox
07-29-2010, 12:12 PM
As I said in the other thread which is now locked, the mythological aspects and the motivation of Thor himself are still pretty inpenetrable to someone who has no idea about it, but they've also pushed the action, which is good. I'd still be surprised if this grosses much more than $200m domestically, but Branagh clearly has a good eye for visuals.
S.A.A.D.
07-29-2010, 12:24 PM
Since Thor is trending on twitter, I looked through some of the search results to get a feel of how people perceive the trailer and I'd say it's about 85% positive. The occasional person will say it looks like the worst thing in the world, everyone else thinks it looks amazing.
e- oh and as expected, lots o' people are drawn by Portman, like "hey Natalie Portman's in Thor, I love her!" and "I'll see Thor for Natalie Portman"
Man,I am for different opinions,but I really loathe the general audience who act like that,that is where I draw the line for reason.
TheCorpulent1
07-29-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Portman myself, but if she's getting people interested in the movie, great.
S.A.A.D.
07-29-2010, 12:38 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Portman myself, but if she's getting people interested in the movie, great.
I feel the same way.
Son of Coul
07-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Yeah, a lot of people seem to think that actors write, direct, and produce every single movie they're in. Like when people go "Oh, I dunno about this movie. I really liked actor x, but I didn't care for that last movie he did."
But like Corp says, if she's a draw, then that's great.
Original Spawn
07-29-2010, 12:52 PM
Thatīs right
SuperFerret
07-29-2010, 01:08 PM
Yeah, a lot of people seem to think that actors write, direct, and produce every single movie they're in. Like when people go "Oh, I dunno about this movie. I really liked actor x, but I didn't care for that last movie he did."
But like Corp says, if she's a draw, then that's great.
True, but actors also choose their projects, and you can usually tell what type of movie it is by the actors in it, as well as gauge how much you'd like it by the actor's previous work.
TheCorpulent1
07-29-2010, 01:12 PM
If an actor's really terrible, you can also usually assume that they'll be terrible in any film they're in. I tend not to watch anything with Channing Tatum because he has the emotional range of cardboard, for example.
Well my dad is 50 and he is incredibly excited for this movie and he said that Hopkins involvement only made him more excited. Now my dad looks down on me for being a 22 Year Old who still collects comics so to hear him say he is excited for a Comic Book Movie is quite something. This is the only movie he has said to me "let me know about this one bud". So im thinking the movie will do ok if there are more people like him out there. He says that Spiderman is his favorite but that Thor was always a close second.
TheCorpulent1
07-29-2010, 01:34 PM
Any reason he was interested in this one, specifically? Mythology buff or something?
Webhead2006
07-29-2010, 07:05 PM
i am sure the general public will like the film. if it has good action and visuals and good word of mouth the film should be fine.
TheFuture
08-01-2010, 11:21 AM
As with any film, people will go to see this movie if Marvel do a good job marketing it and selling it to the masses. Whether Branagh produces something that will make the audience actually LIKE the film is an entirely different story.
Spider-Vader
08-01-2010, 09:27 PM
This movie will probably do good because the fact that it's the first movie of the summer alone.
Wynter
08-24-2010, 05:56 PM
This movie will live or die on WOM. Once all the comic geeks (us) have seen it, we should tell at least 10 people its awesome.
Weadazoid
08-24-2010, 07:42 PM
If an actor's really terrible, you can also usually assume that they'll be terrible in any film they're in. I tend not to watch anything with Channing Tatum because he has the emotional range of cardboard, for example.
I tend to agree whole heartedly.... For me it's Colin Farrel
Cause ya know.... he's terrible.
TheCorpulent1
08-24-2010, 07:42 PM
I can never agree to that statement for one reason: In Bruges.
Vartha
08-24-2010, 07:52 PM
Well I love it already Wynter, I've told several people they need to see the footage and after they did they loved it, the look and all.
Wynter
09-06-2010, 05:44 PM
A huge mistake with the SUperman reboot IMO was to do nothing with Krypton, I mean come on they should have showed off some CGI there.
I agree. To me this is where the Superman animated series got it right. The first episode was a two-parter that took place on Krypton and showed exactly what Krypton's last days were like from Jor-El's perspective, with Kal as an infant. It ended with Kal being sent away and Krypton exploding in spectacular fashion. IMO this is the best way to start any reboot of that franchise.
Wynter
09-06-2010, 05:54 PM
You guys see what fan girls did with twilight(not that im comparing that movie to Thor) they can do the same with Thor.
Another good point. Loki and Thor have the sort of relationship fangirls dream about and, if they get it halfway right, there will be no stopping the mountains of fanfiction. If Hiddleston is right and this is like a sexy, less depressing version of King Lear, then this movie won't fail. I think Thor is probably one of the few comics that could carry a very large, rabid female fanbase.
misjuevos
10-03-2010, 01:11 AM
people will watch it since they know it is part of the avengers. the tie in will be mentioned and has been mentioned already on any news channel especially after the comic con panel.so the GA knows it's part of the avengers tie in and will want to see it. also the talk shows will help hype it up as well.
WarBlade
10-03-2010, 01:25 AM
people will watch it since they know it is part of the avengers.
:doh:
That statement assumes that people know what The Avengers are. I mentioned this growing film franchise to someone a few months back who watches a LOT of movies. He knows about X-Men, Spider-Man, Superman etc. but his reaction to The Avengers?
"Haven't they already made a movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118661/) about that?"
The general audience in my experience doesn't know jack squat about The Avengers comicbook. They know about the Hulk, thanks to the old TV series and two movies in the recent past. A few know about Thor, if they know anything about Norse mythology. Quite a number are catching on to Iron Man and some mindboggling connection to 'some other comicbooky stuff'. Beyond that, the general audience doesn't know and doesn't care. :oldrazz:
marcvader
10-03-2010, 08:38 AM
Well the Avengers movie isn't coming out next weekend.
misjuevos
10-03-2010, 08:47 AM
it's the information age, people know about the avengers coming out. lots of hype. my dad is almost 60 and he asked if i knew the avengers was coming out and i said you know the avengers and he say yea thor and captain america. i never seen him read a comic in my life don't know how he knows about them. i figured cap would be known by people but not thor i was really surprised.
TheCorpulent1
10-03-2010, 11:59 AM
Another good point. Loki and Thor have the sort of relationship fangirls dream about and, if they get it halfway right, there will be no stopping the mountains of fanfiction. If Hiddleston is right and this is like a sexy, less depressing version of King Lear, then this movie won't fail. I think Thor is probably one of the few comics that could carry a very large, rabid female fanbase.
Ugh, I will have to remember to avoid that like the plague. I mean, it's great that women might like it for whatever reason, but I hate that kind of ridiculous shipping fanfic. :o
herakles
10-03-2010, 12:40 PM
it's the information age, people know about the avengers coming out. lots of hype. my dad is almost 60 and he asked if i knew the avengers was coming out and i said you know the avengers and he say yea thor and captain america. i never seen him read a comic in my life don't know how he knows about them. i figured cap would be known by people but not thor i was really surprised.
Given the age of your father. He grew up during the Silver Age and creative Boom that was Kirby/Lee lead Marvel of the early 1960s
misjuevos
10-04-2010, 05:22 AM
the GA will just eat this movie up. in the next one i wouldnt be surprised if we see kids with toy helmets and mjolnirs in the movie like iron man 2.
Weadazoid
10-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Thor has a few really big things going for it.
1rst and foremost the release date. This date is known for generating serious Box Office power. 1rst big movie of the summer.
2nd is the concept...it doesn't look like another 'typical' comic book movie, it isn't some hampered down origin...it's Thor/
3rd Face it the audience looooves a good throwdown and when we see a glimpse....even just a glimpse of Thor going toe to toe with that MASSSsssive Destoyer, well that will just about seal the deal.
Wynter
10-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Thor has a few really big things going for it.
2nd is the concept...it doesn't look like another 'typical' comic book movie, it isn't some hampered down origin...it's Thor/
Yeah, I'm getting sick of the old "how they got their power" origin story. It's like reading 10 different prologues without getting to the meat for a story. You don't have that issue with Thor, so it's not exactly in the same field as the rest of the Marvel movies (except Punisher).
I would love to see some high fantasy style battles with Frost Giants and such. To me selling Asgard as another realm with mythic appeal before the trip to Earth is important. We need to get out and see Thor tackle something from his own realm.
kang604
10-26-2010, 08:29 AM
if they make thor super beast mode in the movie then ppl will love it
if they show thor as the most powerful avenger or at least on par with hulk then i think ppl will dig it, ppl always like the strongest one of the group
Mace Dolex
11-07-2010, 10:36 PM
It might attract the Harry Potter crowd who are into the whole magical/fantasy/spiritual junk but Thor won't make Spider-Man numbers hell not even Iron Man numbers.
Thor's appeal is very limited, he doesn't have the snappy quips like Spidey or the cool gadgets like Batman/Iron Man and let's face it he doesn't have a personality.
Any chance of them making him more like the drunken barbarian from the Return Of The Incredible Hulk 80's TV-movie?
Vartha
11-08-2010, 12:56 AM
I don't know Mace. I'm sure once a trailer's out there could be alot of interested people.
TheCorpulent1
11-08-2010, 08:05 AM
It might attract the Harry Potter crowd who are into the whole magical/fantasy/spiritual junk but Thor won't make Spider-Man numbers hell not even Iron Man numbers.
Thor's appeal is very limited, he doesn't have the snappy quips like Spidey or the cool gadgets like Batman/Iron Man and let's face it he doesn't have a personality.
Any chance of them making him more like the drunken barbarian from the Return Of The Incredible Hulk 80's TV-movie?
What a ridiculous statement.
Weadazoid
11-08-2010, 08:14 AM
I don't know Mace. I'm sure once a trailer's out there could be alot of interested people.
Given the slot I think it easily pulls in Iron Man numbers. It is also going to have a trailer with THE Holiday movie Tron.... thats big time exposure.
GIven that Tron will probably attract a massive 3d crowd both young and old, it could be a huge winner for paramount.... we could be talking 6 to 700 million final gross. It's got tremendous Domestic and Oversees promise
TheCorpulent1
11-08-2010, 08:20 AM
If nothing else, it should be very big in Sweden. :awesome:
GhostPoet
11-08-2010, 01:31 PM
I have a feeling this film is going to be huge...it will do extremely well...possibly even better than Captain America. Had they gotten any closer to the comic (old english style talking, a more colorful outfit) I think it wouldn't do so well. But I think they found the perfect balance between classic Thor and Ultimate Thor. And that's really what the movie universe is...it's the universe inbetween those two.
TheCorpulent1
11-08-2010, 01:34 PM
I don't see much Ultimate influence in the movie version, personally.
Vartha
11-08-2010, 05:24 PM
If nothing else, it should be very big in Sweden. :awesome:
you'd think, right?
Weadazoid
11-08-2010, 06:32 PM
It's gonna rock the Iceland and Norway box office as well..
all of this may equate to earthe shattering 5 mill.... which is probably a huge net of the Iceland/Norway summer box office.
You could also figure in some Danish dough.
Wynter
11-08-2010, 07:29 PM
I really think a lot depends on selling the "soul" of the Thor comic's drama. We really need to feel what's happening is important to the characters and care enough about them to want to see what happens next. That means selling Thor, Odin and Loki for certain. The worst thing that could happen is if this movie does everything right, but feels hollow and soulless.
Marvel's Thor line is impressively complex. There's a lot of mysticism and symbolism there for those who are savvy about those things (kabbalah, tarots, Hinduism, etc) that the average reader will probably miss. It weaves bits from a lot of religions/myths/worldviews and yet stays very true to the original roots, just with some impressive interpretations.
Thor is one of those characters who doesn't seem deep at first, but as you see more you realize he's actually more clever and deep than he appears. Loki is the reverse, complex but with simple, child-like motivations. Which is why they work so perfectly as archenemies.
Gamma Burst
11-08-2010, 11:43 PM
GA will love this movie,and it's gonna be big!Thor is an extremely versatile character and He has an incredible mythology.
Gamma Burst
11-08-2010, 11:44 PM
What a ridiculous statement.
Ridiculous and quite stupid.Exactly what you should expect from a person who doesn't know/get the character at all.
Mace Dolex
11-09-2010, 10:50 PM
Ridiculous and quite stupid.Exactly what you should expect from a person who doesn't know/get the character at all.
...you mean he's not a drunk barbarian who gets called upon by a geek?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/panaf/incrediblehulkreturns03.jpg
Vartha
11-10-2010, 07:56 AM
...you mean he's not a drunk barbarian who gets called upon by a geek?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/panaf/incrediblehulkreturns03.jpg
Heh if they didn't portray Thor as a Drunk there WOULD have been a Thor TV series.
Philly Phanboy
11-10-2010, 09:16 PM
...you mean he's not a drunk barbarian who gets called upon by a geek?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/panaf/incrediblehulkreturns03.jpg
I seem to recall that version of Thor was also impressed by our indoor plumbing. :dry:
obin_gam
11-11-2010, 02:08 AM
all the talk of scandinavians now reminds me of this: (characters are from left to right: Iceland, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden. ANd the Big guy who comes in later is USA ^^ )
http://humoncomics.com/art/nordic-halloween.jpg
:D
Weadazoid
11-11-2010, 08:09 AM
Not too sure about this decision to release the film in other markets first.
I just hope the film doesn't leak it's way onto the US internet in any way shape or form.
This film should explode onto the US market first.
I hope they bump up our release date now.... say Wednesday the 4rth instead of Friday the 6th .
Vartha
11-11-2010, 09:03 AM
lol nice love Tyr though the whole thing. :D
all the talk of scandinavians now reminds me of this: (characters are from left to right: Iceland, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden. ANd the Big guy who comes in later is USA ^^ )
http://humoncomics.com/art/nordic-halloween.jpg
:D
rashad
11-25-2010, 10:55 PM
I just hope the film doesn't leak it's way onto the US internet in any way shape or form.
It will within a week or two of release, albeit in s***** cam quality. That's the nature of the bootlegging beast.
fixxxer1022
12-02-2010, 04:15 PM
sad to say but i think the lack of advertisement for this flick will be the doom of it. i don't think thor will do well at all anyways. i like the character but i think captain will steal the show.
TheCorpulent1
12-02-2010, 04:23 PM
There's still 6 months until the release date. I'm sure we'll start seeing the ad campaign ramp up later this month and into the new year.
Chewy
12-02-2010, 04:24 PM
lol @ lack of advertisement killing this movie
They are going to advertise the HELL out of this, starting shortly
fixxxer1022
12-02-2010, 04:31 PM
lol @ lack of advertisement killing this movie
They are going to advertise the HELL out of this, starting shortly
lol all you want, i just think it won't pull numbers "anywhere" close to ironman. i just hope nothing affects the avengers movie. im sure captain will attract more people.
Chewy
12-02-2010, 04:35 PM
I didn't say it would. But arbitrarily stating that advertisement not having started more than 6 months out is going to doom the film, when we know a big ad campaign will be starting in the very near future, elicits a lol.
Gamma Burst
12-02-2010, 05:45 PM
LOL indeed.It will make a lot of money.The 'lack of advertisement' idea is completely clueless.
Btw,I've said it before,but captain will have a hard time outside the US.
fixxxer1022
12-02-2010, 05:47 PM
LOL indeed.It will make a lot of money.The 'lack of advertisement' idea is completely clueless.
Btw,I've said it before,but captain will have a hard time outside the US.
both thor & captain will have to pull decent numbers for the avengers to even happen.
Gamma Burst
12-02-2010, 05:48 PM
Of course.
Spider-Vader
12-02-2010, 06:15 PM
lol @ lack of advertisement killing this movie
They are going to advertise the HELL out of this, starting shortly
Definitely, I'm pretty sure Marvel doesn't want another TIH on their hands.
Gamma Burst
12-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Definitely, I'm pretty sure Marvel doesn't want another TIH on their hands.
Sure.Even though TIH had also to overcome all the 'bad taste' the first film had left...
Weadazoid
12-02-2010, 07:27 PM
No movie gets this slot and gets poor adverts.
I think the last movie that 'under performed in the first of may Slot was MI 3 and that was the trilogy curse.
This movie is going to do very well, Priest is the week 2 comp, an R rated movie that I doubt will hit number 1. THor will get 2 weeks in early May at number 1.
Cap has Harry Potter infront of it
GL has Car 2 a sure fire Pixar hit in it's 2nd week.
Thors trailer will drop in just a few weeks, lets wait and see what the buzz is like after something public is actually released on a large scale.
wobbly
12-02-2010, 08:12 PM
both thor & captain will have to pull decent numbers for the avengers to even happen.
Filming for Avengers starts early next year and will be done (or mostly done) before Thor & Cap are even released. With set construction having apparently begun it's happening already.
marcvader
12-02-2010, 08:13 PM
both thor & captain will have to pull decent numbers for the avengers to even happen.
Do you even know when Avengers starts filming? :doh:
marcvader
12-02-2010, 08:16 PM
Beat me to it.
Weadazoid
12-03-2010, 08:19 AM
Yeah Evans will jump from one to the other practically seemlessly
JeetKuneDo
12-03-2010, 01:20 PM
lol all you want, i just think it won't pull numbers "anywhere" close to ironman. i just hope nothing affects the avengers movie. im sure captain will attract more people.
If Thor gets 2/3 of what Iron Man movies get (i.e. $200 mil), I'll do a back flip for joy. Not really fair to use the IM movies as a benchmark.
grand-I-am
12-03-2010, 02:17 PM
For this thor movie to reach iron man popularity the thor character just has to seem amazing!
Like the actor that plays him has to steal the show ala gerard butler/300 or heath leadger/joke. If a general public kinda guy see's this movie and comes out saying " wow, thor is the man!!!!!!!" then things are going in the right step in the movie selling well to the casual...
Don't get me wrong the rest of the movie has to be good as well but the main character has to like I said , STEAL THE SHOW!
wobbly
12-03-2010, 07:37 PM
In most cases I agree but there's always exceptions...Costner's Robin Hood did very well and Alan Rickman's baddie stole the film completely.
Spider-Vader
12-04-2010, 05:09 PM
Sure.Even though TIH had also to overcome all the 'bad taste' the first film had left...
That was a factor. But the marketing for it sucked, my friends only knew about it because of me.
Gamma Burst
12-04-2010, 05:12 PM
It sucked,indeed.It got really lost with so much marketing for IronMan..Not to mention all the problems with Norton.
StarkTheProdigy
12-10-2010, 09:30 AM
It honestly depends how they're going to market the film like several of you had said. The studio needs to do a fine job though, because a lot of people who aren't familiar with the Marvel superhero, Thor, other characters like Spider-Man and X-Men pop up in their mind. Idk, my predictions for this summer's super hero movies is that Captain America or Green Lantern first, then Thor, then X-Men First Class. But who knows, it's possible that Thor becomes a huge hit, just as long as Critics give positive feed, along with the pubic, and excellent marketing, and just maybe, it can be this years "Iron Man."
GhostPoet
12-10-2010, 01:29 PM
I'm pretty sure this movie is going to be massive, as soon as the trailers start hitting and people see it people will be hooked.
Gamma Burst
12-10-2010, 03:57 PM
It will be massive.
I was looking online for all the movies that were released this year and jumped on over to next year's release list. I noticed Thor comes out the same week as the new Pirates. Does anyone think that it will severly hurt Thor's BO? Try to not let any bias and love for the character get in the way of thinking about this problem.
I'm just wondering if people think it might not do well in the theatre. I'm crossing my fingers for it to kick some ass, but you never know.
BigThor
12-24-2010, 02:45 PM
I was looking online for all the movies that were released this year and jumped on over to next year's release list. I noticed Thor comes out the same week as the new Pirates. Does anyone think that it will severly hurt Thor's BO? Try to not let any bias and love for the character get in the way of thinking about this problem.
I'm just wondering if people think it might not do well in the theatre. I'm crossing my fingers for it to kick some ass, but you never know.
Pirates 4 comes out 2 weeks after Thor
Pirates 4 comes out 2 weeks after Thor
Nice! The site I went to hasn't updated then.
BigThor
12-25-2010, 04:32 AM
Nice! The site I went to hasn't updated then.
Haha I guess so
TheCorpulent1
12-26-2010, 09:11 PM
It makes me sad that Pirates is still such a serious box office contender. Is it really still entertaining to so many people to watch Johnny Depp do a Keith Richards impression with eyeliner on for 2 hours? Doesn't the novelty wear off at some point?
BigThor
12-27-2010, 01:06 AM
It makes me sad that Pirates is still such a serious box office contender. Is it really still entertaining to so many people to watch Johnny Depp do a Keith Richards impression with eyeliner on for 2 hours? Doesn't the novelty wear off at some point?
True, but it is a HUUUGE phenomenon...yeah that hurts me too
S.A.A.D.
12-27-2010, 01:12 AM
It makes me sad that Pirates is still such a serious box office contender. Is it really still entertaining to so many people to watch Johnny Depp do a Keith Richards impression with eyeliner on for 2 hours? Doesn't the novelty wear off at some point?
Yup. I think that people need to stop acting as if Depp is so consistently good in his movies.
BigThor
12-27-2010, 01:17 AM
Yup. I think that people need to stop acting as if Depp is so consistently good in his movies.
I don't see how movies like Pirates make more than "Iron Man"
TheCorpulent1
12-28-2010, 07:28 PM
Yup. I think that people need to stop acting as if Depp is so consistently good in his movies.
I like Johnny Depp, but I think he's a bit too fond of eccentricities, to the point that it sometimes overpowers his performances. Alice in Wonderland is a perfect example. His Mad Hatter was just randomly Scottish at times for no apparent reason. That's not a symptom of insanity, it's just weird for weird's sake.
Weadazoid
12-28-2010, 07:48 PM
I like Johnny Depp, but I think he's a bit too fond of eccentricities, to the point that it sometimes overpowers his performances. Alice in Wonderland is a perfect example. His Mad Hatter was just randomly Scottish at times for no apparent reason. That's not a symptom of insanity, it's just weird for weird's sake.
His best work was in Ed Wood and Fear and Loathing.
He had some great moments in the OG Priates as well. But in terms of performances I rank that below the two I mentioned above.
Still A ThorFan
01-01-2011, 02:57 PM
I'm getting tired of people asking if the general public will accept the fantasy aspect of Thor, Blonde God on earth etc...
If they accepted LOR, Avatar, and Harry Potter then there should be no problem accepting Thor.
Still A ThorFan
01-01-2011, 02:59 PM
It makes me sad that Pirates is still such a serious box office contender. Is it really still entertaining to so many people to watch Johnny Depp do a Keith Richards impression with eyeliner on for 2 hours? Doesn't the novelty wear off at some point?
Because the general American movie goer is stupid. As long as there is great special effects and mindless action they will flock to it, just look at the Transformers series, and POTC. They also complain about 3D, yet buy tickets for it anyway.
BigThor
01-01-2011, 05:36 PM
I'm getting tired of people asking if the general public will accept the fantasy aspect of Thor, Blonde God on earth etc...
If they accepted LOR, Avatar, and Harry Potter then there should be no problem accepting Thor.
Now this is the truth
marcvader
01-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Because the general American movie goer is stupid. As long as there is great special effects and mindless action they will flock to it, just look at the Transformers series, and POTC. They also comiplain about 3D, yet buy tickets for it anyway.
People like to be entertained and those movies are undeniably entertaining. They may not be your cup of tea or mine for that matter but I wouldn't call people stupid for liking that kind of stuff. Different strokes for different folks.
Excelsior.
01-02-2011, 09:44 AM
Because the general American movie goer is stupid. As long as there is great special effects and mindless action they will flock to it, just look at the Transformers series, and POTC. They also complain about 3D, yet buy tickets for it anyway. I don't see how this hurts Thor.
Still A ThorFan
01-02-2011, 09:53 AM
I don't see how this hurts Thor.
Good point. As for the reaction, I was at the theater yesterday in Union Square, Manhattan. And to my amusement a man walked by the Thor poster and said "Thorrr!" That caught the attention of 3 other people who stopped and looked at the poster for a bit.
So much for those who said the poster isn't attention grabbing.
Still A ThorFan
01-02-2011, 09:58 AM
People like to be entertained and those movies are undeniably entertaining. They may not be your cup of tea or mine for that matter but I wouldn't call people stupid for liking that kind of stuff. Different strokes for different folks.
Maybe stupid was too strong of a word but I think you know what I mean. It just baffles me how Hollywood can put out anything and people just flock to it.
I'm very selective when it comes to the movies. I'll be damned if I spend 11.25 to see Yogi Bear.
marcvader
01-02-2011, 11:48 AM
Oh, I here ya. I'm very selective as well. I only go to the theater 5-6 times a year.
Weadazoid
01-02-2011, 01:44 PM
Oh, I here ya. I'm very selective as well. I only go to the theater 5-6 times a year.
Ditto.
THis past year I saw:
Oceans by Disney
Dispicable Me
Tangled - First 3D movie.
- all with my daughter a 4 year old, who is just coming around to movies....
Up actually really kind of terrified her. The end of it was way to intense made her cry alot.
Still A ThorFan
01-02-2011, 08:47 PM
I don't have any children yet but I'm sure when that day comes I'll be at the movies a lot more.
Vartha
01-03-2011, 01:09 AM
heh I was a huge influance on my kids lol. My 16 year daughter loves Bat-man movies, LotR, Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter and regrettably Twilight. lol
My son loves basically the same thing, but loves Games alittle more . :D
BigThor
01-03-2011, 10:26 AM
Good point. As for the reaction, I was at the theater yesterday in Union Square, Manhattan. And to my amusement a man walked by the Thor poster and said "Thorrr!" That caught the attention of 3 other people who stopped and looked at the poster for a bit.
So much for those who said the poster isn't attention grabbing.
Now this is some good news, perhaps more good tracking for Thor
Weadazoid
01-03-2011, 11:19 AM
Now this is some good news, perhaps more good tracking for Thor
This movie is going to start the summer. That really helps it, and it's new, so people are going to have peaked interest, plus the CGI at this point looks pretty spectackular.
I have no idea how Priest is going to perform... it looks kewl but that hard R rating sets up THor for being 2 weeks at number 1... just my early opinion, and that should be enough to spread the good word.
Silvermoth
01-03-2011, 07:23 PM
The major hurdle for Thor I think (besides the look of the costumes) is that fantasy films since Lord of the Rings haven't really been successful. Sure there's Harry Potter but most fantasy films set in a different world tend to bomb or be aimed at very young children.
I think as long as Thor is more Lord of the Rings than Bridge to Terabithia things should be alright. If it's a mature, awesome film it'll be fine and sell well.
ddddeeee
01-03-2011, 08:00 PM
1 Toy Story 3 BV $1,063.1
2 Alice in Wonderland (2010) BV $1,024.3
3 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 WB $867.2
4 Inception WB $825.4
5 Shrek Forever After P/DW $739.8
6 The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Sum. $693.5
7 Iron Man 2 Par. $621.8
8 Despicable Me Uni. $540.4
9 How to Train Your Dragon P/DW $494.9
10 Clash of the Titans (2010) WB $493.2
Maybe it's just me. But what all these films have in common is that they're all fairly 'out there' and they're all Fantasy or Sci-Fi, minus the animated.
TheCorpulent1
01-03-2011, 08:55 PM
The major hurdle for Thor I think (besides the look of the costumes) is that fantasy films since Lord of the Rings haven't really been successful. Sure there's Harry Potter but most fantasy films set in a different world tend to bomb or be aimed at very young children.
I think as long as Thor is more Lord of the Rings than Bridge to Terabithia things should be alright. If it's a mature, awesome film it'll be fine and sell well.
Thor's set on Earth for quite a bit of the movie. I think Marvel/Disney's banking on that grounding to give it a leg up on other fantasy movies. You're seeing a stranger being transported to Earth for the main part of the story rather than being transported to another world yourself.
Gamma Burst
01-03-2011, 08:57 PM
Maybe it's just me. But what all these films have in common is that they're all fairly 'out there' and they're all Fantasy or Sci-Fi, minus the animated.
No,it's not just you.:word:
BigThor
01-04-2011, 04:22 PM
Maybe it's just me. But what all these films have in common is that they're all fairly 'out there' and they're all Fantasy or Sci-Fi, minus the animated.
It's not just you, I agree as well
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