Comic Con Trailer Description

[Webhead2006]

saw the comic con trailer earlier today. Man it looked pretty good. Everything for thor is shaping up well i think. Cant wait for more stuff in the coming months.

[Rock Sexton]

how else woudl you do asgard if not for sets unless you wanted it half CGI/half set which i think they did

They filmed at a studio the entire time for that. I would've preferred something more along the lines of LOTR and their use of locales.

Wow, some of your complaints are a little odd. I mean, you just hate all of New Mexico? :huh:


Who said anyone hates all of New Mexico? From what little they showed, it lacks a little sizzle movie-wise.

[Rock Sexton]

I thought Asgard looked phenomenal. Those shots with the camera panning around, showing us Asgard in all its splendor, were really well done. I liked little touches like the two moons in one scene. Definitely tells us that this is an otherworldly place.

Ya that part is fine. I'm referring to where the Frost Giants were .... as well as in the palace. I've seen a few others mention it, but it feels "confined" to me.

[spider-neil]

my favorite bit is when thor tries to life the hammer and can't. I wondered what would happen if thor was no longer worthy. its cool that thor would go on a rampage and then out of the blue he would be no longer able to lift mjolnir, that is so much cooler than greasy emo hair (SM3) or dirty spandex (Superman 3) to depict a hero turned bad.

[S.A.A.D.]

I thought that the Frost Giants looked disappointing too. The lion sound for Thor was noteworthy,but bad too,he's not a lion.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who said anyone hates all of New Mexico? From what little they showed, it lacks a little sizzle movie-wise.
Eh, it's just a lot of desert. Maybe I'm used to it because of Breaking Bad. Then again, if the Earth settings were really impressive, it'd detract from the wonder of Asgard a bit.

[darkseid26]

The CC trailer is very cool. I am now more hyped for Thor than Green Lantern.

[S.A.A.D.]

Eh, that's okay, as I don't think I've ever agreed with a single opinion you've expressed on the boards. It's got to the point where you hating the look of something is almost the final seal of approval that confirms it'll be worth watching. :oldrazz:

But yeah, as Corp says, it might seem like a generic zombie tale at first, but it really becomes very much it's own beast as it progresses, and the TV medium is the perfect format to adapt that kind of story. And AMC is where it's at in TV Land these days.

If it is true that me and you have never agreed on anything,then perhaps the time will come where the both of us will.

[TheCorpulent1]

Ya that part is fine. I'm referring to where the Frost Giants were .... as well as in the palace. I've seen a few others mention it, but it feels "confined" to me.
Eh, fair enough, I guess. I didn't get that feeling, but I suppose I can see how one would. Still, every building's gotta have hallways. The throne room looks magnificent and sprawling, and I'm assuming we'll see more of that than the hallways of the palace.

[Rock Sexton]

Eh, fair enough, I guess. I didn't get that feeling, but I suppose I can see how one would. Still, every building's gotta have hallways. The throne room looks magnificent and sprawling, and I'm assuming we'll see more of that than the hallways of the palace.

I just don't want Asgard relegated to one panning CGI shot of the entire kingdom and then be locked up in Odin's throne or the Frost Giants den. Knowing the budget limitations, the threat of this is a real possibility. I guess that's what I mean by cramped.

[KangConquers]

The CC trailer is very cool. I am now more hyped for Thor than Green Lantern.

I've always been more hyped for Thor than Green Lantern. :oldrazz:

[misjuevos]

I like how they show the cosmos I hope they get the 9 realms down and shown

[BigSams50]

Just saw the trailer and i must say, it gave me goosebumps. Cant wait for Thor!!!

[Avengers-Report]

I've always been more hyped for Thor than Green Lantern. :oldrazz:

Not me. There is just something about GL that makes him special :yay: But in reality, the Thor trailer blew GL away. Can't argue that one.

[KangConquers]

Not me. There is just something about GL that makes him special :yay: But in reality, the Thor trailer blew GL away. Can't argue that one.

Don't get me wrong; GL is a great hero, but I've always been more interested in Thor (and cap for that matter).

[Octoberist]

I'm still rooting for Green Lantern but yeah, Thor's trailer destroys it.

I can't say too much because it's too early. The color correction was not there nor was the CGi but that's not the fault of the crew. So far, everything looks good but the Earth scene looks so small. Isolated. Maybe there's a lot more to it.

[Avengers-Report]

I'm still rooting for Green Lantern but yeah, Thor's trailer destroys it.

I can't say too much because it's too early. The color correction was not there nor was the CGi but that's not the fault of the crew. So far, everything looks good but the Earth scene looks so small. Isolated. Maybe there's a lot more to it.

I definitely did not look as promising as Thor. However, I truly believe Marvel Studios puts more effort into preparing their footage for Comic-Con and maybe we just haven't seen anything good from Green Lantern yet.

[Octoberist]

My theory is that, at one time, WB and DC were going to release a whole lot more footage, but the CGI wasn't ready especially with the Green Lantern suit.

I think people can excuse bad CGI on certain things, like pre-renders of Oa or the constructs, but the suit is the selling point. Also, I think they're still tweaking the design (as evident with the tweaking of the mask for the GL Banner at the Warner Bros booth at Comic Con).

But again, they could have more scenes with Ryan as Hal sans costume.

[Project862006]

difference is Thor finished filming in May and had from May till Comic Con which was July to get a trailer and CGI Ready

GL is still filming

[KangConquers]

My theory is that, at one time, WB and DC were going to release a whole lot more footage, but the CGI wasn't ready especially with the Green Lantern suit.

I think people can excuse bad CGI on certain things, like pre-renders of Oa or the constructs, but the suit is the selling point. Also, I think they're still tweaking the design (as evident with the tweaking of the mask for the GL Banner at the Warner Bros booth at Comic Con).

But again, they could have more scenes with Ryan as Hal sans costume.

I still think it's ridiculous that there isn't a physical suit, that it's all mocap. I hope they know what they're doing.

Anyway I've decided to give the Thor trailer a 7.5 out of 10. I would probably go 8 if it had finished sfx.

[knowsbleed]

The gods from Clash of the Titans looked much more impressive/commanding than what I've seen of the Thor trailer.

Thor looks... underwhelming. It's setting up too much for The Avengers. Why can't it be a standalone movie without the crutches of being a prequel to The Avengers? That's just predictable.

[ElMariachi]

I thought that the trailer/footage was awesome.

-Chris Hemsworth looks like a great Thor and seems like he will give the character (who is notoriously boring) some life. I am sure the ladies will love him and the dudes will be wowed by the beatdowns he lays on people.

-The action looked pretty top notch from what I saw. The fight between Thor and Loki looked great, as did Thor taking out a whole room of guys. Fighting with the hammer will translate well and was something I wasn't sure of.

-Odin was good. Didn't hear too much from Loki but I think he looked good. Especially liked it when Odin put him in his place.

-Volstagg, Sif, Heimdall, Fandral, Hogun looked good. Wish Hogun had the stache' though. Not understanding the criticism of Heimdals eyes. I didn't even notice it until the nitpickers brought it up.

-Asgard looked great from what I saw, although it was on a small computer screen and not in great definition.

-I like Coulson. Never understood why some have a problem with him in these movies. I hope his interrogation of Thor is his only long speech. Thought he was great leading up to the Destroyer. The Destroyer was great!

-Portman/Dennings--no real suprises here.




This movie is already attracting alot of haters. But that shouldn't suprise me anymore that it's apparent that people have taken a blood oaths to D.C./Nolan in a similar fashion as those barbarians did for Sauroman in Two Towers. I just hope the fanboys on here don't build this movie up to such insane, lofty expectations like they did Iron Man 2 (which was great). This movie looks like a great superhero movie and something that should be very entertaining. If you want an Oscar movie---buzz off and go watch Frost/Nixon for christsakes. It's a sad day when people can't be entertained or excited for an action/summer blockbuster without Academy Award ambitions. You know there is a problem when people are holding Transformers to the same standards as actual dramas without CGI.

[FaT_tONle]

The gods from Clash of the Titans looked much more impressive/commanding than what I've seen of the Thor trailer.

Thor looks... underwhelming. It's setting up too much for The Avengers. Why can't it be a standalone movie without the crutches of being a prequel to The Avengers? That's just predictable.

Liam Neeson was the only thing that was commanding in those trailers. No other actor made a dent... clearly Hopkins was just as good as Neeson in that trailer. But I do have problems with the trailer. Seems very hit and miss. They are gonna nail certain aspects, and they are going to come up well short in others. I had some lukewarm feelings after watching it many times over.

[roach]

I thought that the trailer/footage was awesome.

-Chris Hemsworth looks like a great Thor and seems like he will give the character (who is notoriously boring) some life. I am sure the ladies will love him and the dudes will be wowed by the beatdowns he lays on people.

-The action looked pretty top notch from what I saw. The fight between Thor and Loki looked great, as did Thor taking out a whole room of guys. Fighting with the hammer will translate well and was something I wasn't sure of.

-Odin was good. Didn't hear too much from Loki but I think he looked good. Especially liked it when Odin put him in his place.

-Volstagg, Sif, Heimdall, Fandral, Hogun looked good. Wish Hogun had the stache' though. Not understanding the criticism of Heimdals eyes. I didn't even notice it until the nitpickers brought it up.

-Asgard looked great from what I saw, although it was on a small computer screen and not in great definition.

-I like Coulson. Never understood why some have a problem with him in these movies. I hope his interrogation of Thor is his only long speech. Thought he was great leading up to the Destroyer. The Destroyer was great!

-Portman/Dennings--no real suprises here.




This movie is already attracting alot of haters. But that shouldn't suprise me anymore that it's apparent that people have taken a blood oaths to D.C./Nolan in a similar fashion as those barbarians did for Sauroman in Two Towers. I just hope the fanboys on here don't build this movie up to such insane, lofty expectations like they did Iron Man 2 (which was great). This movie looks like a great superhero movie and something that should be very entertaining. If you want an Oscar movie---buzz off and go watch Frost/Nixon for christsakes. It's a sad day when people can't be entertained or excited for an action/summer blockbuster without Academy Award ambitions. You know there is a problem when people are holding Transformers to the same standards as actual dramas without CGI.

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[knowsbleed]

Where's the mythology? It looks much more futuristic than mythological. :down

[Chewy]

That's how Marvel's Thor has always looked

[knowsbleed]

Liam Neeson was the only thing that was commanding in those trailers. No other actor made a dent... clearly Hopkins was just as good as Neeson in that trailer. But I do have problems with the trailer. Seems very hit and miss. They are gonna nail certain aspects, and they are going to come up well short in others. I had some lukewarm feelings after watching it many times over.

I am not saying that Clash of the Titans was good... but Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes looked perfect as Greek gods. Can't say the same for Hopkins and Hemsworth. Hiddleston looks great as Loki though... I'll give them that.

[roach]

well to be fair neither Neeson or Fiennes looked like the traditional looks of Zeus and Hades

[The Riddler]

wow...the thor trailer looks really bad.

i'm sorry, but i was so disappointed. hemsworth did anything but impress me, but i'll see what he can do in the real movie. the production values look low, but maybe it's because it's early footage?

i don't know, i was just totally underwhelmed.

[knowsbleed]

well to be fair neither Neeson or Fiennes looked like the traditional looks of Zeus and Hades

Maybe not, but the mythological aura was maintained whereas Odin and Thor just seem to look like humans wearing costumes. I get zero "godliness" factor from them.

[S.A.A.D.]

Where's the mythology? It looks much more futuristic than mythological. :down

Dude,in general the mythology doesn't limit it's self to certain things,therefore it isn't fair to criticize the mythology that is in the Thor movie. The movie is following previously established Thor lore. Since the lack of mythology is your problem,you should take your problem up with the source material actually,and not the movie. I understand your complaint,but I don't think that it's completely valid.

[Whiskey Tango]

wow...the thor trailer looks really bad.

i'm sorry, but i was so disappointed. hemsworth did anything but impress me, but i'll see what he can do in the real movie. the production values look low, but maybe it's because it's early footage?

i don't know, i was just totally underwhelmed.

The movie is over 10 months away, of course it's unfinished.

[roach]

did Zeus armor glow on set or was that CGI???

[FaT_tONle]

I am not saying that Clash of the Titans was good... but Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes looked perfect as Greek gods. Can't say the same for Hopkins and Hemsworth. Hiddleston looks great as Loki though... I'll give them that.

The costumes look cheap but besides that I don't know what you are getting at. If anything the rest of the cast is overshadowed by Hopkins that they are sort of acted off the sets. Other than that the looks are spot on. If you were expecting the rugged more ancient look, you aren't alone. But they made it clear it was going to be more science/space themed a while back.

[knowsbleed]

I was expecting a more classical look since Branaugh was directing... but I guess he's trying a completely different direction... a more Marvel direction. I just don't think it looks anything special.

[ElMariachi]

The gods from Clash of the Titans looked much more impressive/commanding than what I've seen of the Thor trailer.

Thor looks... underwhelming. It's setting up too much for The Avengers. Why can't it be a standalone movie without the crutches of being a prequel to The Avengers? That's just predictable.

How is it setting up too much for Avengers? Thor is an Avenger and him coming to earth is apart of his storyline. People had the same complaints about "too much Avengers/SHIELD" in Iron Man 2. Yeah, that one scene at the end and the other one after the credits really was too much. :doh: This is becoming a really tired and annoying take by people on here. Almost as bad and as played out as people b---ing about Heimdall being black, recasting Ed "Jesus" Norton, or why they parted ways with Terrence Howard.

And what is so bad about setting up for the Avengers anyway? I think it's great what Marvel is doing by making it's universe unlimited. It's honestly hard to go back to other heroes like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and the X-Men with their closed off, isolated worlds after this. Anybody who claims to be a comic book fan or who likes superheroes should be loving the ambitious plan Marvel has for it's film universe.

[S.A.A.D.]

Maybe not, but the mythological aura was maintained whereas Odin and Thor just seem to look like humans wearing costumes. I get zero "godliness" factor from them.

It's there and you just don't see,the rest of their godly factor comes from their special abilities,but you don't realize that either imo. I'll just leave it at that,which is letting you think whatever you want to think about the movie.

[S.A.A.D.]

How is it setting up too much for Avengers? Thor is an Avenger and him coming to earth is apart of his storyline. People had the same complaints about "too much Avengers/SHIELD" in Iron Man 2. Yeah, that one scene at the end and the other one after the credits really was too much. :doh: This is becoming a really tired and annoying take by people on here. Almost as bad and as played out as people b---ing about Heimdall being black, recasting Ed "Jesus" Norton, or why they parted ways with Terrence Howard.

And what is so bad about setting up for the Avengers anyway? I think it's great what Marvel is doing by making it's universe unlimited. It's honestly hard to go back to other heroes like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and the X-Men with their closed off, isolated worlds after this. Anybody who claims to be a comic book fan or who likes superheroes should be loving the ambitious plan Marvel has for it's film universe.

How indeed,it's not like the entire movie is AVENGERS related for crying out loud. We basically don't even know what will happen in the Avengers movie at this juncture.

[knowsbleed]

How is it setting up too much for Avengers? Thor is an Avenger and him coming to earth is apart of his storyline. People had the same complaints about "too much Avengers/SHIELD" in Iron Man 2. Yeah, that one scene at the end and the other one after the credits really was too much. :doh: This is becoming a really tired and annoying take by people on here. Almost as bad and as played out as people b---ing about Heimdall being black, recasting Ed "Jesus" Norton, or why they parted ways with Terrence Howard.

And what is so bad about setting up for the Avengers anyway? I think it's great what Marvel is doing by making it's universe unlimited. It's honestly hard to go back to other heroes like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and the X-Men with their closed off, isolated worlds after this. Anybody who claims to be a comic book fan or who likes superheroes should be loving the ambitious plan Marvel has for it's film universe.

Iron Man was an excellent standalone movie except for after the credits... which was enough of a setup for The Avengers IMO. It seems like the whole Avengers setup is just overdone... and that's just from a trailer. What moreso in the actual movie? Just too much.

If a movie is not good enough to stand on it's own two legs... then it's not a good movie IMO. I probably won't be watching Thor in theaters.

[kguillou]

I thought the trailer was great. I was never a huge thor fan, but this trailer cemented my fandom. I am truly excited for this film.

Thats said people need to calm down with the whole "too much avengers" setup thing. Marvel is doing something truly unique in cinematic history here with their shared movie universe, and people need to just enjoy it. Each movie is its own standalone thing while setting up for the next one to get people hyped. I mean, next year we're getting Thor in May and then the story continues in Captain America in July...how is that not awesome?

[roach]

so you have judged from a 5 min sizzle reel that this movie isnt going to be good????

[The Riddler]

The movie is over 10 months away, of course it's unfinished.

can they reshoot some scenes? hemsworth was crigne worthy in a few.

[knowsbleed]

How about this, people need to calm down with the whole telling people to calm down thing. Let me have my opinion, I'm not trying to downplay anybody else's.

[misjuevos]

I am not saying that Clash of the Titans was good... but Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes looked perfect as Greek gods. Can't say the same for Hopkins and Hemsworth. Hiddleston looks great as Loki though... I'll give them that.

i know what you mean about the gods in clash. the best part of that movie were the gods they looked cool. you have to remember the effects are not complete for the thor movie. after the touchups you might be surprised. we still havent seen mjolnirs power or thor flying or the magic so you might want to hold off till you get an official trailer.

[Dark Sentinel]

Just saw the trailer and I have to say that Thor looks awesome! I'm a DC fan through and through, but Thor is definitely on my must see list for next year. I was very impressed.


Oh, and Clark Gregg is bad***

[roach]

I thought the trailer was great. I was never a huge thor fan, but this trailer cemented my fandom. I am truly excited for this film.

Thats said people need to calm down with the whole "too much avengers" setup thing. Marvel is doing something truly unique in cinematic history here with their shared movie universe, and people need to just enjoy it. Each movie is its own standalone thing while setting up for the next one to get people hyped. I mean, next year we're getting Thor in May and then the story continues in Captain America in July...how is that not awesome?

while I agree with you this isnt anything new in film. The universal movies did it in the 40's and Who framed roger rabbit had the largest collection of characters from other films in it

[knowsbleed]

so you have judged from a 5 min sizzle reel that this movie isnt going to be good????

I've judged that this movie doesn't have the feel that I'd want from a Thor movie. Between that "5 min sizzle reel", all of the released interview and pictures... yes, I've determined that I'm underwhelmed.

[roach]

can they reshoot some scenes? hemsworth was crigne worthy in a few.

the movie isnt done

[roach]

I've judged that this movie doesn't have the feel that I'd want from a Thor movie. Between that "5 min sizzle reel", all of the released interview and pictures... yes, I've determined that I'm underwhelmed.

well I respect that

[TheCorpulent1]

I just don't want Asgard relegated to one panning CGI shot of the entire kingdom and then be locked up in Odin's throne or the Frost Giants den. Knowing the budget limitations, the threat of this is a real possibility. I guess that's what I mean by cramped.
I see what you're saying. Some outdoor shots of Asgard would definitely be nice. It'd all be CGI, though, and we know they've only got a couple months of post done with several more to go, so maybe they just didn't have a lot of that ready to show. Just remember, everything about the footage has to be viewed in the context of the movie still having a long way to go to completion.

I like how they show the cosmos I hope they get the 9 realms down and shown
That piece of paper that Thor someone is holding at one point looks like it could be a map of the nine realms. Maybe it's a diagram Foster or Skarsgard's character came up with from their research...

Iron Man was an excellent standalone movie except for after the credits... which was enough of a setup for The Avengers IMO. It seems like the whole Avengers setup is just overdone... and that's just from a trailer. What moreso in the actual movie? Just too much.

If a movie is not good enough to stand on it's own two legs... then it's not a good movie IMO. I probably won't be watching Thor in theaters.
I really didn't see much Avengers setup at all. What are you talking about specifically?

[Webhead2006]

its a mix of futuristic and mythogical and we havent seen everything yet either.

[misjuevos]

movies are subjective, you like what you like.

that part with the nine realms diagram is in the book when thor is telling jane about where he comes from. he opens a book about the nine realms. he is probably explaining it to here much like how loki explains it to doom in the cabal. im hoping they show the realms during the explanation

[The Sage]

This looks great!

Asgard looks amazing and I kept looking at the shot where the camera pans around. Best part of the footage is Odin's speech casting Thor out.

I can't wait for this movie.

[ElMariachi]

oh here is another thing that is bothering me. Why are people complaining about the armor and the look of the movie. You do know this movie doesn't take place in the 11th century right!? Why then would Asgardians, who are more advanced then Earth, be wearing Lord of the Rings-esque armor? Personally, I think it's silly to expect a society to be wearing fashions that are a thousand years old. It would be like expecting humans to dress like they did in Braveheart or something.

[roach]

The finished trailer will be on the IM2 DVD

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I still don't know what to think about the footage. I mean Hemsworth is sexy as all get out but it just didn't excite me.

[TheCorpulent1]

oh here is another thing that is bothering me. Why are people complaining about the armor and the look of the movie. You do know this movie doesn't take place in the 11th century right!? Why then would Asgardians, who are more advanced then Earth, be wearing Lord of the Rings-esque armor? Personally, I think it's silly to expect a society to be wearing fashions that are a thousand years old. It would be like expecting humans to dress like they did in Braveheart or something.

I think someone involved in the production early on said something to the effect of "this is our Lord of the Rings" and people just kind of ran with it, building their expectations up in that direction when, really, it was more of an off-the-cuff comment. Plus, a lot of the recent comics depict the Asgardians in very old world, viking-ish clothing. Branagh obviously favored a version built around earlier comic designs--Kirby and Simonson's in particular.

[Vartha]

I see what you're saying. Some outdoor shots of Asgard would definitely be nice. It'd all be CGI, though, and we know they've only got a couple months of post done with several more to go, so maybe they just didn't have a lot of that ready to show. Just remember, everything about the footage has to be viewed in the context of the movie still having a long way to go to completion.


That piece of paper that Thor someone is holding at one point looks like it could be a map of the nine realms. Maybe it's a diagram Foster or Skarsgard's character came up with from their research...


I really didn't see much Avengers setup at all. What are you talking about specifically?
Yeah the only real thing I can see going to an Avengers movie is the Infinity Gauntlet which didn't appear in the Trailer, and the Destroyer which we're not COMPLETELY sure what happens after it appears.

[Webhead2006]

yea i see nothing wrong with how the film looks.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Now I understand what I didn't care for. I hate seeing all of this crossover stuff shoved in my face at the expense of the individual film. It was one of the things that ruined Iron Man 2. Also it would have been neat to see more Mr. Hemsworth's acting.

[wobbly]

Where's the mythology? It looks much more futuristic than mythological. :down

Comic book Thor (on which this movie is based) is vastly different than the mythological Thor typically depicted in Viking legends.

His original costume for starters...No Viking ever wore anything like that, and most of Kirby's designs, from Odin's armor to Asgard itself (you can find examples easily enough via google) were again nothing like anything the Vikings ever dreamt up.

Now I'll grant you the 'new' Asgard recently destroyed in the comic had an old style look to it, but that wasn't how it was originally depicted at all. The original Asgard did, as you say, look much more futuristic than mythological.

[roach]

Yeah the only real thing I can see going to an Avengers movie is the Infinity Gauntlet which didn't appear in the Trailer, and the Destroyer which we're not COMPLETELY sure what happens after it appears.

Destroyer is actually a Thor villain...i dont see how it leads to Avengers

[NorsePrincess]

Looked awesome, I can't wait. :)

[Webhead2006]

i dont really see the 3 scenes that were in im2 and this break in/intergation/ and the destroyer scene being to much. This is a shared universe. We known marvel wants that. So of course stories and characters are going to be mixing up with each other. Its no different then the comics.

[TheCorpulent1]

Now I understand what I didn't care for. I hate seeing all of this crossover stuff shoved in my face at the expense of the individual film. It was one of the things that ruined Iron Man 2. Also it would have been neat to see more Mr. Hemsworth's acting.
Seriously, what kind of overbearing crossover stuff are people talking about here? SHIELD's presence? :huh:

[misjuevos]

i like the crossover stuff it make the movie seem bigger, like it is an actual universe. you never know who will show up.there is always the thought of the hulk on the loose in the back of your minds.

[roach]

Seriously, what kind of overbearing crossover stuff are people talking about here? SHIELD's presence? :huh:

that plus the scenes of Avengers fighting Kang
scenes of the whole team sitting around the table
Wasp oggling Thor
Hank slapping her around
...its all there

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Seriously, what kind of overbearing crossover stuff are people talking about here? SHIELD's presence? :huh:Seriously, you don't agree with my opinion and thats fine.

[TheCorpulent1]

I never even said anything about your opinion. I literally don't see any crossover stuff being shoved in my face when I watch it, so I was asking an honest question. If it's just SHIELD/Coulson, that doesn't bother me because I'm used to the comics, where SHIELD is pretty ubiquitous. Plus it makes sense in the context of the films' shared universe for SHIELD to be pretty interested when a hammer drops out of the sky and becomes magically immovable.

[roach]

Seriously, you don't agree with my opinion and thats fine.

its not about agreeing...its understanding.
I understand your complaints about IM2...i dont agree but I can see your point
There was nothing in the trailer that was Avenger-esk

[misjuevos]

so what do you think the after credit moment will be? so far we had nick fury in iron man 1 then stark in incredible hulk then mjolnir in iron man 2. so what might the thor extra be?

[roach]

I never even said anything about your opinion. I literally don't see any crossover stuff being shoved in my face when I watch it, so I was asking an honest question. If it's just SHIELD/Coulson, that doesn't bother me because I'm used to the comics, where SHIELD is pretty ubiquitous. Plus it makes sense in the context of the films' shared universe for SHIELD to be pretty interested when a hammer drops out of the sky and becomes magically immovable.

which matched up with the end credits scene in IM2

[Vartha]

Now I understand what I didn't care for. I hate seeing all of this crossover stuff shoved in my face at the expense of the individual film. It was one of the things that ruined Iron Man 2. Also it would have been neat to see more Mr. Hemsworth's acting.
Actually I liked IM2 better than IM.

and it wasn't because of Mjolnir at the end :D

[TheCorpulent1]

so what do you think the after credit moment will be? so far we had nick fury in iron man 1 then stark in incredible hulk then mjolnir in iron man 2. so what might the thor extra be?
I'm sure it'll be Captain America-related. Can't think of what it'd be, though.

[roach]

so what do you think the after credit moment will be? so far we had nick fury in iron man 1 then stark in incredible hulk then mjolnir in iron man 2. so what might the thor extra be?

Namor throwing frozen Steve in the ocean

[ElMariachi]

Iron Man was an excellent standalone movie except for after the credits... which was enough of a setup for The Avengers IMO. It seems like the whole Avengers setup is just overdone... and that's just from a trailer. What moreso in the actual movie? Just too much.

If a movie is not good enough to stand on it's own two legs... then it's not a good movie IMO. I probably won't be watching Thor in theaters.

I really don't think it has been overdone at all. The Avengers talk really hasn't affected the storylines of any character at this point yet. Thor will be more about his power struggle with Loki more then the Avengers. However, the Avengers and him being on earth are apart of the Thor character---this storyline has to play a role here. It would be like complaining about a Robin Hood movie where steals from the rich and gives to the poor.

And I really don't know you, but I am calling bull that you aren't seeing this in theaters. What are you going to see instead----Marmaduke 2 or something?

[misjuevos]

Namor throwing frozen Steve in the ocean


lol,nice

[S.A.A.D.]

that plus the scenes of Avengers fighting Kang
scenes of the whole team sitting around the table
Wasp oggling Thor
Hank slapping her around
...its all there

:woot:

[Vartha]

I'm sure it'll be Captain America-related. Can't think of what it'd be, though.
Bet it'll be something to do with the Cosmic Cube scene that was in the footage at SDCC.

[TheCorpulent1]

If the Red Skull is involved, that could be cool. If it's just the Cube, it'll probably fall flat. People at the theater I went to were wondering what Mjolnir was after IM 2, so I doubt they'd recognize the Cosmic Cube.

Namor throwing frozen Steve in the ocean
I can't even imagine how the general audience would react to that. "Who the f*** was that half-naked motherf***er who popped out of nowhere and threw Captain America into the water? What the f*** is going on?!" :lmao:

[roach]

If the Red Skull is involved, that could be cool. If it's just the Cube, it'll probably fall flat. People at the theater I went to were wondering what Mjolnir was after IM 2, so I doubt they'd recognize the Cosmic Cube.


I can't even imagine how the general audience would react to that. "Who the f*** was that half-naked motherf***er who popped out of nowhere and threw Captain America into the water? What the f*** is going on?!" :lmao:

pretty much what they did when they saw the Hammer at the end of IM2

[Vartha]

If the Red Skull is involved, that could be cool. If it's just the Cube, it'll probably fall flat. People at the theater I went to were wondering what Mjolnir was after IM 2, so I doubt they'd recognize the Cosmic Cube.


I can't even imagine how the general audience would react to that. "Who the f*** was that half-naked motherf***er who popped out of nowhere and threw Captain America into the water? What the f*** is going on?!" :lmao:
hahahaha WHY is a naked Spock throwing Captain America in the Ocean is more like it. lol

[wobbly]

Now I understand what I didn't care for. I hate seeing all of this crossover stuff shoved in my face at the expense of the individual film. It was one of the things that ruined Iron Man 2. Also it would have been neat to see more Mr. Hemsworth's acting.

Personally, I didnt think it was overbearing in IM2. 3 scenes with Fury (doughnut place, Stark's home and at the end), all working within the film's plot rather than stalling it (Shield would obviously want to keep an eye on Stark after getting in a drunken fight while wearing one of the most powerful weapons around), and were barely a few minutes long.

Yes, they could have done the film without the obvious link to Avengers, but Avengers is the next film Iron-Man will appear in. Made sense to me for them to have that set-up in IM2.

[MAN-BRUTE]

I really hope they`ve not went and killed Odin off. The opportunities for classic stories being told for possible sequels would be ruined in my opinion. Hopefully that shot of him on his bed was really just him in the middle of the Odin-sleep, and Loki being put in charge because of Thor`s banishment. I love Odin as a character, and would like to see him in any sequels that might be coming. Please Marvel, do not kill the all-father!!!

[TheCorpulent1]

Could just be the Odinsleep.
Personally, I didnt think it was overbearing in IM2. 3 scenes with Fury (doughnut place, Stark's home and at the end), all working within the film's plot rather than stalling it (Shield would obviously want to keep an eye on Stark after getting in a drunken fight while wearing one of the most powerful weapons around), and were barely a few minutes long.

Yes, they could have done the film without the obvious link to Avengers, but Avengers is the next film Iron-Man will appear in. Made sense to me for them to have that set-up in IM2.
I can understand the complaint in IM 2 because Fury kind of drops out of the sky and hands Tony the answer to the problem driving the whole first half of the movie. It was a little too convenient for me. I didn't really think it was too overbearing, though.

[wobbly]

hahahaha WHY is a naked Spock throwing Captain America in the Ocean is more like it. lol


Lol :yay: Couldn't happen anyway as I think Namor is one of those that Marvel sold off (I think Fox have him?)

[TheCorpulent1]

Possibly. He's very much associated with the Fantastic Four and now the X-Men.

[Vartha]

I really hope they`ve not went and killed Odin off. The opportunities for classic stories being told for possible sequels would be ruined in my opinion. Hopefully that shot of him on his bed was really just him in the middle of the Odin-sleep, and Loki being put in charge because of Thor`s banishment. I love Odin as a character, and would like to see him in any sequels that might be coming. Please Marvel, do not kill the all-father!!!
Well Frigga told Loki he was next in line and it was AFTER that we saw the tear from Odin's eye. I'm betting it was an Odinsleep

[roach]

Hate to see their review of Avengers...."it was ok but I hated how Thor and Cap and IM were like in every scene...it really took away from the Avengers...if I want to see IM3 I will go see it...Avengers should stand alone as its own film"

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I've already explained what I didn't like about Iron Man 2, I'm not going to write all of that down again.

Again I hope that Thor and Captain America's villains screentime and importance aren't downgraded so that they can add scenes of Scar-jo in a tight black suit and Sam Jackson's horrible acting.

[Vartha]

Lol :yay: Couldn't happen anyway as I think Namor is one of those that Marvel sold off (I think Fox have him?)
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Wonder how many more years that contract is?

[roach]

Lol :yay: Couldn't happen anyway as I think Namor is one of those that Marvel sold off (I think Fox have him?)

um he's at Marvel and rumored to appear in Cap...JJ was asked if he was going to have the ankle wings and he said no

[TheCorpulent1]

I've already explained what I didn't like about Iron Man 2, I'm not going to write all of that down again.

Again I hope that Thor and Captain America's villains screentime and importance aren't downgraded so that they can add scenes of Scar-jo in a tight black suit and Sam Jackson's horrible acting.
'Kay. Sorry I asked, I guess.

I think Jackson's stated he's not even in Thor, so we should be good on that front. Coulson's the only SHIELD representative, as far as I know (aside from random, nameless agents in the background).

[misjuevos]

im sure odin is only faking just so he can see how loki does in charge, its a test. then he will probably come back at the end and give thor back his title and place in his house after seeing loki is not a good ruler.. thor's test was to live on earth and become worthy again to wield mjolnir, loki's test is to rule asgard in odin's place.

[roach]

in 2006 Universal was slated to make Namor movie...as of right now Universal has no properties...so i assume they reverted to Marvel

[Aesop Rocks]

Does anyone else think that Josh Dallas is literally identical Fandral? Especially in recent (Coipel?) renditions?

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have no problem with people asking me things but I just argued about IM2 for so long and I'm tired.

Anyway back to Thor. As my budy Jamie has said there is just something off about the trailer...period.

[MAN-BRUTE]

Well Frigga told Loki he was next in line and it was AFTER that we saw the tear from Odin's eye. I'm betting it was an Odinsleep





ahh I missed that tear from his eye. Let`s hope you`re right, Vartha. Odin is too cool a character to get rid of in the first film :yay:

[GREEN =w= DAY]

HOLY CRAP!!!!! :wow:

the Comic Con trailer for Thor is badass

had my doubts about this movie, but after seeing the trailer i think it's safe to say that Thor wil PWN

[ElMariachi]

I think someone involved in the production early on said something to the effect of "this is our Lord of the Rings" and people just kind of ran with it, building their expectations up in that direction when, really, it was more of an off-the-cuff comment. Plus, a lot of the recent comics depict the Asgardians in very old world, viking-ish clothing. Branagh obviously favored a version built around earlier comic designs--Kirby and Simonson's in particular.

I really like the more futuristic Asgard. If they are to have a timeline that is parallel to that of Earth, I think it only makes sense. Especially considering that stuff where Thor was talking about magic and science. It would be goofy having a bunch of guys wearing chainmail, leather, heavy armors, and things of that nature when Asgard is supposed to be more advanced.

[misjuevos]

i think the end credits might be after odin wakes back up he tells thor about something happening on earth that one of his lost treasures or something is found and must be recovered. or loki is cast out by odin after his misconduct and thor decides to go to earth to keep an eye on his brother, to protect the mortals from loki's wrath of being cast out. maybe loki is disguised as one of the people who uncovers the cube and shows it to the nazis. then odin sends thor to retrieve it.

[wobbly]

Could just be the Odinsleep.

I can understand the complaint in IM 2 because Fury kind of drops out of the sky and hands Tony the answer to the problem driving the whole first half of the movie. It was a little too convenient for me. I didn't really think it was too overbearing, though.

Well, I can see the point there, but personally never had a problem with it: Stark is an engineering genius, not a biology/chemistry one, and if he was not seeking help from someone who was (and it was evident he wasn't) then Shield's boffins being able to find a temporary fix to the ailment (they made it clear that injection was just buying him some more time) was not overly convenient to me (well, not so much that I gave it too much thought at least).

Have to admit though I am biased on this issue...(can't wait to see how the Avengers turns out :yay:)

[TheCorpulent1]

Does anyone else think that Josh Dallas is literally identical Fandral? Especially in recent (Coipel?) renditions?
He looks great for the part. I don't know if I'd say "identical." But if the character's got such distinctive facial hair, it's pretty easy to get the look right. Put that facial hair and some green clothes on a person and people will automatically think "Robin Hood," "Fandral," or "Green Arrow," and we can eliminate the first and last for obvious reasons. :oldrazz:

[Vartha]

Does anyone else think that Josh Dallas is literally identical Fandral? Especially in recent (Coipel?) renditions?
I do indeed AR, I do indeed.
I still want to know what Coipel did for the movie. I'm hoping the DVD will have all kinds of goodies with it. like Out takes. :D

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I can see the point there, but personally never had a problem with it: Stark is an engineering genius, not a biology/chemistry one, and if he was not seeking help from someone who was (and it was evident he wasn't) then Shield's boffins being able to find a temporary fix to the ailment (they made it clear that injection was just buying him some more time) was not overly convenient to me (well, not so much that I gave it too much thought at least).

Have to admit though I am biased on this issue...(can't wait to see how the Avengers turns out :yay:)
Yeah, they saved it by having Tony have to sift through all of Howard's junk himself, but it was still sort of a deus ex machina. Taken entirely on its own, if Iron Man weren't being tied to the Avengers, the conclusion to that particular arc probably would not have gone down that way. It didn't bother me, though; I'm just saying, I can see how that might come off as a bit convenient or crossover-heavy.

[Aesop Rocks]

I do indeed AR, I do indeed.
I still want to know what Coipel did for the movie. I'm hoping the DVD will have all kinds of goodies with it. like Out takes. :D

Didn't he design the Thor suits?

[ElMariachi]

I enjoyed that whole angle in Iron Man 2. Alot of people are of the opinion that it was an easy way to fix a problem (it wasn't a permanent fix), but to me it showed that Stark needed outside help for his problems. It was a theme in that movie that he was a "lone gunslinger" trying to solve all his own issues, but in this case his genius was not enough. Hence, setting up the Avengers where they all rely on each other to get the job done.

[misjuevos]

i read the description of the cap footage and the old man who tells weaving "that is not for your eyes" must be loki after he is banished or defeated in thor. the red skull opens the cube and the old man probably walks away and turns back into loki and smiles or laughs then dissapears that would be a good end credit for thor. i think loki is the old man and is trying to get some power so he can mount another attack on asgard.

this is the cap footage description only.
http://www.ugo.com/movies/comic-con-2010-captain-america-chris-evans-in-costume

[roach]

I dont think it was Deus Ex...they didnt hand the element to him...they just gave him the footlocker

[misjuevos]

yes but the old man will probably be shot by hugo or something to prevent him from letting the information about the cube get out, then when he is alone he will just get back up and change back into loki. loki is defeated because thor has too many allies , so loki tries to create his own ally in the red skull, but he isnt strong enough until he is the red skull.

its far fetched i know, but im trying to think of what the tie to cap could be or how thor would get mixed up with mortals problems. i think it has to be because loki is causing mischief on earth now and thor feels obligated to keep family affairs from leaking over to the mortals

[Project862006]

First Showing had cap reactions in a video blog and one of the guys said the guy who plays this old man with Red Skull is the guy who plays Argus Filch from Harry Potter Series played by David Bradley
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/harry_potter_and_the_chamber_of_secrets/david_bradley/harry.jpg

[wobbly]

i read the description of the cap footage and the old man who tells weaving "that is not for your eyes" must be loki after he is banished or defeated in thor. the red skull opens the cube and the old man probably walks away and turns back into loki and smiles or laughs then dissapears that would be a good end credit for thor. i think loki is the old man and is trying to get some power so he can mount another attack on asgard.

this is the cap footage description only.
http://www.ugo.com/movies/comic-con-2010-captain-america-chris-evans-in-costume


Time is the problem with this idea. Thor is exiled to the present, why would Loki later be exiled to over 60 years in the past?

[TheCorpulent1]

yes but the old man will probably be shot by hugo or something to prevent him from letting the information about the cube get out, then when he is alone he will just get back up and change back into loki. loki is defeated because thor has too many allies , so loki tries to create his own ally in the red skull, but he isnt strong enough until he is the red skull.

its far fetched i know, but im trying to think of what the tie to cap could be or how thor would get mixed up with mortals problems. i think it has to be because loki is causing mischief on earth now and thor feels obligated to keep family affairs from leaking over to the mortals
Bit early to speculate on that, I think. We don't know where Loki will be by the end of the film...

[Vartha]

Didn't he design the Thor suits?
for the COMICS yes, but, I forget the designer for the movie's name. I heard Coipel had been called in but not sure for what.

[misjuevos]

Time is the problem with this idea. Thor is exiled to the present, why would Loki later be exiled to over 60 years in the past?

loki has done some time travel before, he is banished or whatever at the end of thor, but then goes back to 42 to "find" the cosmic cube. i know time travel is pretty lame excuse for retcon or whatever. just thinking out loud. im not saying this will happen just that it could be a possible end for thor. i really have no idea, since i didnt see the cap footage, only read it. feel free to give opinions or whatever, i really am trying to think what the end of thor will be.

[TheCorpulent1]

You could always say time works differently in Asgard, too. It's a different dimension, after all.

[roach]

the end credit scenes should hint at the next hero...so it shouldnt be about the Red Skull finding the Cosmic Cube and should have something to do with Cap

[darkknightNRY]

I'm a comic book fan, but I never really picked up any Thor comics. But after seeing that trailer, I want to get some where Thor fights Loki and encounters that freakin' sweet looking Destroyer armor! I think Kenneth Branagh will bring the Thunder!

[SuperFerret]

And the Red Skull doesn't have anything to do with Captain America?

[Aesop Rocks]

Not at all.

[roach]

And the Red Skull doesn't have anything to do with Captain America?

i mean it should have to do with Captain America....like finding him in the snow

[TheCorpulent1]

Bit on the nose, don't you think? Plus, that's not something Thor should do alone. That's an Avengers moment.

[Webhead2006]

yea i wonder how they will have any tie in from thor to cap. i hope they play it well.

[misjuevos]

cap was cast last and hugo was cast a while ago so it would seem like they could have filmed the comsic cube stuff to put in thor

[Webhead2006]

or they could film the stuff now, and add it into thor during its post production period we are still in.

[roach]

Bit on the nose, don't you think? Plus, that's not something Thor should do alone. That's an Avengers moment.

i am not saying that Thor should find Cap...Tony didnt find Thor's Hammer at the end of IM2

[Whiskey Tango]

You could always say time works differently in Asgard, too. It's a different dimension, after all.

Or Loki could have already traveled to 1942, setting events in motion and laying the groundwork for an invasion well before the Thor movie takes place. He is a scheming bastard, after all!

[roach]

cap was cast last and hugo was cast a while ago so it would seem like they could have filmed the comsic cube stuff to put in thor

actually the shooting schedule has nothing to do with when an actor was cast

[Gold Samurai]

Did they borrow music from Inception?

"your arogants and stupidity"

BRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[misjuevos]

Or Loki could have already traveled to 1942, setting events in motion and laying the groundwork for an invasion well before the Thor movie takes place. He is a scheming bastard, after all!

that's what i said, he travels to 42 to "find" the cube. but im not sure i like the time travel stuff. just seems too easy and messes with the red skull origins as well. maybe while thor and loki are fighting they travel through the nine realms due to loki gaining the odinforce, or odins spear or something. maybe they are like teleporting all over the realms and earth and at one point are in the snow and thor calls a lightning bolt down to strike but loki ports them away again and then cap will be uncovered later.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or Loki could have already traveled to 1942, setting events in motion and laying the groundwork for an invasion well before the Thor movie takes place. He is a scheming bastard, after all!
I don't know, other dimensions and the simple word "god" have been tripping people up in Thor. Do we really want to throw time travel into the mix, too? ;)

[roach]

I think that is a bit complicated for an end credit scene...keep it simple...either have Shield find Cap or have Tony recruit Thor into the team

[protocida]

I really hope they`ve not went and killed Odin off. The opportunities for classic stories being told for possible sequels would be ruined in my opinion. Hopefully that shot of him on his bed was really just him in the middle of the Odin-sleep, and Loki being put in charge because of Thor`s banishment. I love Odin as a character, and would like to see him in any sequels that might be coming. Please Marvel, do not kill the all-father!!!
Odinsleep.

[misjuevos]

maybe tony shows up to ask thor for help with the hulk? that would put the hulk movie as set after or during thor so when stark talks to ross you know he has thor with him as well as represents shield.

[Weadazoid]

What if.... the cube, lets call it the cube, is connected to Loki, what if it allows Skull to go into a kind of mortal mans Odin Sleep, what if it preserves him, and after the Germans are defeated...in Cap...we see Loki convincing the Red Skull to use the cube, to hybernate until the time is right..... that hybernating will not only preserve the skull but given time make him more then just an amplified mortal... more like a god....
What if Skull demands that it benefit not only him, but a small army his best Hydra. Loki says it's possible but it means no god like powers.
Skull says.... I already am a God.... and quotes Friedrich Nietzsche



Then in the Avengers we get SKull & Loki, with the Hulk as thier muscle and Hydra as the Army.


NOW THATS BIG ENOUGH FOR THE AVENGERS TO ASSEMBLE.



Saw the trailer for Thor.... Pretty awsome

[TheCorpulent1]

I think that is a bit complicated for an end credit scene...keep it simple...either have Shield find Cap or have Tony recruit Thor into the team
I would be down with Fury or Stark approaching Thor to join the team. We don't necessarily have to link directly to Cap. Could just go straight to the Avengers connection, especially since we've seen Cap's shield like 2 or 3 times in various films now.

[Whiskey Tango]

that's what i said, he travels to 42 to "find" the cube. but im not sure i like the time travel stuff. just seems too easy and messes with the red skull origins as well. maybe while thor and loki are fighting they travel through the nine realms due to loki gaining the odinforce, or odins spear or something. maybe they are like teleporting all over the realms and earth and at one point are in the snow and thor calls a lightning bolt down to strike but loki ports them away again and then cap will be uncovered later.

I don't know, other dimensions and the simple word "god" have been tripping people up in Thor. Do we really want to throw time travel into the mix, too? ;)

No time travel involved, I meant that Loki could already have journeyed to Earth when it was 1942, 68 years before the events of the Thor movie take place. Setting plans in motion over half a decade in advance seems like it would fit Loki's tricksy nature.

But we'll see, I doubt that's him in the Cap reel anyway. But you never can tell with bees.

[misjuevos]

when i saw TIH i was like cool stark is there to fight the hulk. then after seeing iron man 2 i was like hm maybe stark was their on shields behalf as a consultant.

[misjuevos]

No time travel involved, I meant that Loki could already have journeyed to Earth when it was 1942, 68 years before the events of the Thor movie take place. Setting plans in motion over half a decade in advance seems like it would fit Loki's tricksy nature.

But we'll see, I doubt that's him in the Cap reel anyway. But you never can tell with bees.

i like that actually it shows how they are immortal(loki and asgardians). i really want to get a sense of their immortality and long life.

[roach]

What if.... the cube, lets call it the cube, is connected to Loki, what if it allows Skull to go into a kind of mortal mans Odin Sleep, what if it preserves him, and after the Germans are defeated...in Cap...we see Loki convincing the Red Skull to use the cube, to hybernate until the time is right..... that hybernating will not only preserve the skull but given time make him more then just an amplified mortal... more like a god....
What if Skull demands that it benefit not only him, but a small army his best Hydra. Loki says it's possible but it means no god like powers.
Skull says.... I already am a God.... and quotes Friedrich Nietzsche



Then in the Avengers we get SKull & Loki, with the Hulk as thier muscle and Hydra as the Army.


NOW THATS BIG ENOUGH FOR THE AVENGERS TO ASSEMBLE.



Saw the trailer for Thor.... Pretty awsome


while it would be kool I think the Avengers should face a new opponent. We already have Thor vs Loki in Thor and Cap vs RS in Cap....seems redundant.

[LuisTX85]

while it would be kool I think the Avengers should face a new opponent. We already have Thor vs Loki in Thor and Cap vs RS in Cap....seems redundant.

Would atleast be fresh overall with....IM vs Loki/Thor vs RS/CA vs Loki/IM vs RS/Hulk vs Loki/Hawkeye vs RS!.

[The Guard]

I knew it was going to be stylized, but not this much.

I think people wanted LORD OF THE RINGS, and they got FLASH GORDON. I like some of the Kirbyeque look...not digging Thor's bright cape with that outfit.

It's apparent what they're doing with the visuals...bright and garish in Asgard, and then dark and more realistic on Earth, I just don't know how I feel about it.

What you're seeing, though, I think, on the characters, and in Asgartd, is "gilt". These gods are flawed, and not as powerful and bright as they seem. Hopkins Odin is fantastic so far. Just the right energy for that role.

Thor's scream of rage annoys me. Chris Hemsworth hasn't sold me with his acting yet in the least. He was actually pretty boring in the footage.

As far as SHIELD goes, I don't think Marvel can afford not to being SHIELD in for a larger role at this point. I think Coulson's use makes perfect sense. Who else would he interact with? Cops?

[Project862006]

^ if it looked like LOTR it would not fit with IM universe well at all it has a stylzed look to it that feels like asgard but also can fit with IM world well

a good balance imo

[The Guard]

To a point. Anything can fit with anything if they execute it properly. Having a much brighter cape than his armor is not going to make Thor fit into the "Iron Man Universe" or mix with THE AVENGERS any better than it would otherwise.

[Lighthouse]

I gotta admit, the stuff on Earth sounds pretty boring. Too early to judge, but so far I'm not to impressed.

[The Guard]

I'm sure it will pick up a bit when Loki does his thing.

[blueblazer2]

The trailer looked disappointing . They should had picked a better for the role of Thor . This movie looks really cheesy

[S.A.A.D.]

I don't think the movie looks garish at all,not even close,it's not that it's so bright that it would literally blind one temporarily or permanently. Unlike one too many movies,it has a diverse look,and isn't 100% one sided when it comes to looks.

[Poeman]

The premise for The Walking Dead sounds straight up generic and the trailer for it is underwhelming,it looks like a straight to dvd release too. Imo,there are better looking zombie movies,way better.

LMAO at your face...Thats a tv show and The Walking Dead will probably win emmys just like Mad Men. They are both going to be on AMC.

Thor's footage honestly looked weak...Best part about it was Natalie Portman's nice face. I hope his story does translate well and not appear ludicrous on screen

[S.A.A.D.]

LMAO at your face...Thats a tv show and The Walking Dead will probably win emmys just like Mad Men. They are both going to be on AMC.

Thor's footage honestly looked weak...Best part about it was Natalie Portman's nice face. I hope his story does translate well and not appear ludicrous on screen

Hi there,you missed the part a long time ago where I owned up to the fact that I made a mistake by thinking it was a movie,when it wasn't. If it wins an Emmy that is nice for you and others who are interested in it,but don't expect me to be thrilled about it if it happens,I still couldn't careless.

[Aesop Rocks]

The premise for The Walking Dead sounds straight up generic and the trailer for it is underwhelming,it looks like a straight to dvd release too. Imo,there are better looking zombie movies,way better.

100% wrong.

[S.A.A.D.]

Around 100% wrong.

Dear poster,

Don't bother me about the tv show.

Sincerely,

Me

[Aesop Rocks]

Pretty sure you're 100% wrong.

[Poeman]

Lets just hope the film actually doesn't come off as a cheese-fest. Marvel has had alot of hits or misses when it comes to quality comic films.

Even though they have made some amazing comic movies too... i.e. First to Spidey films and Iron Man series. They are known to also put out garbage.

[Nokio]

I'm not sure what to make of the footage. IT WAS HIT AND MISS FOR ME. Some things looked good while others just didn't feel right or made me go meh. My biggest problem is and I think my fear is gonna be proven right, but I just do not get the feeling what so ever that Thor can go toe to toe with Superman. He's supposed to be able to or even best Supes, but I just do not get the feeling based on this footage I've seen that Thor is extremely powerful.

[misjuevos]

Just wait till you see what mjolnir does they didn't add it's effects. You see Loki point odins spear at someone they didn't add the effect for it either. You see Thor raise mjolnir but they will add in the lightning in post. You must realize the trailer was just to show fans what the characters looked like and the locations. The effects will really sell it. Wait till you see Thor fly or magic or Thor spining mjolnir or calling down a lightning bolt.

[Figs]

I'm not sure what to make of the footage. IT WAS HIT AND MISS FOR ME. Some things looked good while others just didn't feel right or made me go meh. My biggest problem is and I think my fear is gonna be proven right, but I just do not get the feeling what so ever that Thor can go toe to toe with Superman. He's supposed to be able to or even best Supes, but I just do not get the feeling based on this footage I've seen that Thor is extremely powerful.

I understand this complaint that a number of people are having but a lot of that footage was of him on Earth stripped of his powers and a lot of the footage in Asgard wasn't all action.

Hopefully there will be some epic examples of Thor dishing out some pain.

[Stripesy Strip]

I knew it was going to be stylized, but not this much.

I think people wanted LORD OF THE RINGS, and they got FLASH GORDON. I like some of the Kirbyeque look...not digging Thor's bright cape with that outfit.

It's apparent what they're doing with the visuals...bright and garish in Asgard, and then dark and more realistic on Earth, I just don't know how I feel about it.

What you're seeing, though, I think, on the characters, and in Asgartd, is "gilt". These gods are flawed, and not as powerful and bright as they seem. Hopkins Odin is fantastic so far. Just the right energy for that role.

Thor's scream of rage annoys me. Chris Hemsworth hasn't sold me with his acting yet in the least. He was actually pretty boring in the footage.

As far as SHIELD goes, I don't think Marvel can afford not to being SHIELD in for a larger role at this point. I think Coulson's use makes perfect sense. Who else would he interact with? Cops?

Marvel Studios do not have the balls to do a LOTR-like take with Thor. They want to do something that's cheap yet makes money. And something that's not too creative since the failiure of The Hulk scared the living Hell out of them. If you look at the movies they've made so far whether it's the X-Men movies, the Spider-Man movies the Iron Man movies, it's been well-made action flicks that's a good mix of humour and super-hero elements but it's not gone beyond that. And that's the way they like it. You'll never see them do a Batman Begins-type or Dark Knight.

As for Clouston, i'm just not sold on this actor. He's rather bland. In the comics, SHIELD agents are like the most badass of badasses. The Wild Bunch with James Bond gadgets. They do not play around. I would have had someone really grill Thor. Whether it's a Texas Cheriff or say...Avengers pain in the neck Henry Peter Gyrich(a shield agent?). And I would have had David Caruso play him.

[Avengers-Report]

I understand this complaint that a number of people are having but a lot of that footage was of him on Earth stripped of his powers and a lot of the footage in Asgard wasn't all action.

Hopefully there will be some epic examples of Thor dishing out some pain.

Exactly. The fighting footage was not that great. I mean, it was a great trailer, but not a lot of action. Hopefully they are just saving it all for the movie.

[CrescentLight]

Marvel Studios do not have the balls to do a LOTR-like take with Thor. They want to do something that's cheap yet makes money. And something that's not too creative since the failiure of The Hulk scared the living Hell out of them. If you look at the movies they've made so far whether it's the X-Men movies, the Spider-Man movies the Iron Man movies, it's been well-made action flicks that's a good mix of humour and super-hero elements but it's not gone beyond that. And that's the way they like it. You'll never see them do a Batman Begins-type or Dark Knight

The X-men movies were made by Fox & the Spiderman movies are made by Sony. Marvel Studios has nothing to do with either of those franchises. And I'm not sure Marvel has the money right now to do a LotR type movie.

[Stripesy Strip]

The X-men movies were made by Fox & the Spiderman movies are made by Sony. Marvel Studios has nothing to do with either of those franchises.

No difference. It's same model of the fun adventure style.

And I'm not sure Marvel has the money right now to do a LotR type movie.

They're with Disney!

[roach]

No difference. It's same model of the fun adventure style.



They're with Disney!

and Disney lets their minor studios keep to themselves...which is a good thing because is Disney starts bankroll these films then thats going to be someone else with an opinion on these films....They are letting Marvel do there thing just like they let Pixar do their thing.

and for people that wanted a LOTR type movie...did you forget that the character was coming to the modern world??? Sam and Frodo didnt walk down Mainstreet on their way to Mount Doom

[Oscorp]

Saw the trailer and I must say that I really like it! I don't get all the complaints really, I think it looked very cool.

[scifiwolf]

I'm not a comic book reader. Although I'm fairly informed about the major names, I didn't really know anything about Thor until doing some research about a month or so ago. I'm coming into this film with a more of a mainstream movie-goer's perspective. That being said, the trailer looked badass. Very, very badass. The action, though only teased, looks like it could be totally sick. There also seems to be that very necessary element of character and story that we were hoping Kenneth Branagh would be able to bring to the movie. I'm also liking that it has a unique feel, but still very much part of the universe being set up. Everything just looks very, very good and promising.

[wobbly]

Marvel Studios do not have the balls to do a LOTR-like take with Thor. They want to do something that's cheap yet makes money. And something that's not too creative since the failiure of The Hulk scared the living Hell out of them. If you look at the movies they've made so far whether it's the X-Men movies, the Spider-Man movies the Iron Man movies, it's been well-made action flicks that's a good mix of humour and super-hero elements but it's not gone beyond that. And that's the way they like it. You'll never see them do a Batman Begins-type or Dark Knight.

Have to disagree on a lot of this: How is that hybrid mix of Kirby's futuristic designs with Norse mythology not creative? If anything going all LOTR with Thor would be a mistake. That would be called unoriginal and derivative (and it would be too). Remember Marvel's Thor is based on the myth, but it is not the myth, that's part of what makes it so special. This point seems to be forgotten at times.

And comparing with Batman is not really apt at all. The character for starters is completely human. No powers, just skill, smarts, and gadgets to get by. And Nolan's Batman exists within his own little universe too, where the style and tone has been tailor made solely to suit Nolan's vision, and as great as that may be, could you imagine Brandon Routh's Superman (or any Superman) fitting in well at all with Nolan's Batman?

For me DC have not yet imagined a 'movieverse' where their biggest guns can combine well at all. Marvel have been aiming for just this since Iron-Man. If they pull it off well in Avengers, then (as a comics fan first) that will be the best Superhero movie ever made (imo).
This movie still has the potential to take that title, though lacking the recognition of Batman I cant see it coming close at all to the Box office TDK received. Only time will tell on that one, but TDK has set a B/O target an critical acclaim standard that will be damned hard for anyone to beat.

As for Clouston, i'm just not sold on this actor. He's rather bland. In the comics, SHIELD agents are like the most badass of badasses. The Wild Bunch with James Bond gadgets. They do not play around. I would have had someone really grill Thor. Whether it's a Texas Cheriff or say...Avengers pain in the neck Henry Peter Gyrich(a shield agent?). And I would have had David Caruso play him.Agree with this for the most part. Coulson seems more like a bureaucrat/civil servant than a hard nosed special ops agent. Gyrich though has always seemed the same to me in the books (good call on the casting there though) . Having a 'proper' agent like Dum-Dum or Quartermain interrogate Thor would seem the better choice.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, I finally managed to find the footage, and my feelings are a bit mixed, it seems a bit cheesy, but to me Thor has always been a cheesy character so this may just be fitting with the character, at the same time the acting looks of a good standard, done really see the complaints made about Hemsworth, and some of the action looks good, and this is all with unfinished effects also.

As I have been from the start, I have mixed feelings about this movie.

[Vartha]

Well, I finally managed to find the footage, and my feelings are a bit mixed, it seems a bit cheesy, but to me Thor has always been a cheesy character so this may just be fitting with the character, at the same time the acting looks of a good standard, done really see the complaints made about Hemsworth, and some of the action looks good, and this is all with unfinished effects also.

As I have been from the start, I have mixed feelings about this movie.
lol just think, this isn't even FINISHED! mwahahahaha :woot:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

lol just think, this isn't even FINISHED! mwahahahaha :woot:

Didnt I state that in my post? :woot:

[Vartha]

Didnt I state that in my post? :woot:
reprising the BEST part!

:woot::woot::woot: MAN I can't WAIT for the finished product....I better start an aspirin regiment, don't want to plotz into a heart attack lol

[roach]

.

Agree with this for the most part. Coulson seems more like a bureaucrat/civil servant than a hard nosed special ops agent. Gyrich though has always seemed the same to me in the books (good call on the casting there though) . Having a 'proper' agent like Dum-Dum or Quartermain interrogate Thor would seem the better choice.

and they cant use Gyrich since he was in the X-men movies or just X-men

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

reprising the BEST part!

:woot::woot::woot: MAN I can't WAIT for the finished product....I better start an aspirin regiment, don't want to plotz into a heart attack lol

Ha ha, I take it you have been a Thor fan for a long time?

Well I hope the movie is good for the likes of yourselves :woot:.

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. The fighting footage was not that great. I mean, it was a great trailer, but not a lot of action. Hopefully they are just saving it all for the movie.
Or, y'know, since Thor fighting as a god actually involves a lot of special effects, they might just not have had them done yet. People don't seem to be keeping it in mind that these are unfinished effects after just a couple months of post.

[roach]

the finished footage will be on the IM2 blue ray

[Vartha]

Ha ha, I take it you have been a Thor fan for a long time?

Well I hope the movie is good for the likes of yourselves :woot:.
heh I'm 49.
I went to the Kubert School WITH Adam and Andy Kubert in my CLASS, Jim Balent sat behind me, Eric Schanoer was in the room over, same year tho 2nd year.
I'm not ANCIENT but yeah I've been following Thor for YEARS!

[Vartha]

the finished footage will be on the im2 blue ray
and dvd?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to pick that up now. I usually just Netflix whatever DVDs I want, but I'll buy that one.

Of course, I'm sure several of the constant naysayers are gonna see the finished footage and still complain, but you can't please everybody. The unfinished sizzle reel already looked damned fine to me, so I'm content to know that I'll probably be quite happy with the movie. :up:

[Vartha]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to pick that up now. I usually just Netflix whatever DVDs I want, but I'll buy that one.

Of course, I'm sure several of the constant naysayers are gonna see the finished footage and still complain, but you can't please everybody. The unfinished sizzle reel already looked damned fine to me, so I'm content to know that I'll probably be quite happy with the movie. :up:
That's why I'm saying I need to start an aspirin regiment so I don't PLOTZ myself into a freakin heart attack! lol

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, come on, old-timer, you gotta make it another year at least. ;)

[Vartha]

Haha, come on, old-timer, you gotta make it another year at least. ;)
lol dude I ride a mountain Bike 6 miles maybe 3 to four times a week at one place I guard. I keep in shape. :D
Heck parts of me think they're 25! It's gonna get me in trouble one day hahaha. :doh:

[wobbly]

lol dude I ride a mountain Bike 6 miles maybe 3 to four times a week at one place I guard. I keep in shape. :D
Heck parts of me think they're 25! It's gonna get me in trouble one day hahaha. :doh:

Parts of me still think they are 16....

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm 26 and most of me thinks it's in its mid 40s. :csad:

[Vartha]

OUCH
heh we all have battle scars. Me more than the average person lol I was a rough kid. lol

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not rough, just fat and lazy. :)

[piccolo]

I just don't want Asgard relegated to one panning CGI shot of the entire kingdom and then be locked up in Odin's throne or the Frost Giants den. Knowing the budget limitations, the threat of this is a real possibility. I guess that's what I mean by cramped.

Exact feeling I got. Your music video set analogy was spot on.

I was afraid of this when I first heard they were cutting back on the budget because of the uncertainty with how the film would do. My nagging impression is of a sci-fi channel movie.

I'd also add that Hemsworth's look was fantastic, but his line delivery and acting were a bit disappointing.

With luck, post production will smooth out some of the edges, and the film will do well enough for them to go all in on Thor 2 and really splurge.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't want to get spoiler happy, but any ideas on how Hemsworth will fall into SHIELD custody. Seems like Portman is the first person he meets on Earth. Unless Thor deliberately tries to break into the SHIELD to get the Hammer. I am thinking that is probably it.

[TheCorpulent1]

My guess is that just after Thor falls, he gets Jane to drive him to where Mjolnir fell (which would be that scene where he says, "The truth will be revealed to you when I get what's mine" or something like that). He finds a SHIELD base set up around it but, undeterred, he just fights his way inside, makes it to the hammer, and finds he's still unworthy. As he crumples to his knees, SHIELD reinforcements arrive and take him into custody. If you'll notice, in the parts where Coulson is interrogating Thor, you can see a lot of residual mud on his clothes, making me think they've done their best to clean him off after his muddy attempt to reclaim Mjolnir later in the footage (and in the promo pics we've seen).

[Vartha]

i'm not rough, just fat and lazy. :)
volstagg!!!! :d

[TheCorpulent1]

Not quite there yet, thankfully. :)

[Vartha]

Not quite there yet, thankfully. :)
lol Dude back in my Kubert days I went from a 32 waist to a 40!
These days it's a 36 or less.

[Nokio]

Does anyone know what the budget for this is? That would be an indicator to me what Thor is gonna be able to do. He's not supoosed to be Wolverine but with a Magic hammer. Thor without his Hammer is as strong as the Hulk or Superman.

[E.Brock]

Just saw the comic con footage on a website...I am officially more excited for this than anything else. Hemsworth is a PERFECT Thor, thats all i have to say

[JeetKuneDo]

Have to disagree on a lot of this: How is that hybrid mix of Kirby's futuristic designs with Norse mythology not creative? If anything going all LOTR with Thor would be a mistake. That would be called unoriginal and derivative (and it would be too). Remember Marvel's Thor is based on the myth, but it is not the myth, that's part of what makes it so special. This point seems to be forgotten at times.

And comparing with Batman is not really apt at all. The character for starters is completely human. No powers, just skill, smarts, and gadgets to get by. And Nolan's Batman exists within his own little universe too, where the style and tone has been tailor made solely to suit Nolan's vision, and as great as that may be, could you imagine Brandon Routh's Superman (or any Superman) fitting in well at all with Nolan's Batman?

For me DC have not yet imagined a 'movieverse' where their biggest guns can combine well at all. Marvel have been aiming for just this since Iron-Man. If they pull it off well in Avengers, then (as a comics fan first) that will be the best Superhero movie ever made (imo).
This movie still has the potential to take that title, though lacking the recognition of Batman I cant see it coming close at all to the Box office TDK received. Only time will tell on that one, but TDK has set a B/O target an critical acclaim standard that will be damned hard for anyone to beat.

Critics are a part of that group that thinks drama is automatically superior to comedy. (How often would critics name a comedy the best movie of any year no matter how good it is?) So they will always believe a Batman movie is better if said movie is "dark" through and through. Dark=Better to them. So if you want critical praise that means you are limited in what kind of movie you can make.

There is more than one way to make a great comic book movie luckily. Saying Marvel would never make a TDK is probably true. But it's also probably true that Nolan would never make an Iron Man. He may be unable to lighten up long enough to let a RDJ shine. Bale is his perfect actor...brooding is required. He'll let the villain cut loose...but it has to be a "dark" performance.

Now with Thor it occurred to me how much I loved Stargate. They also presented a mythical god in the light of being a part of a technological race and it worked perfectly and logically. The trailer actually make me think of this...the look is similar. Again...more than one way to make a great movie with this type of thing. LOTR is one way and Stargate is another. A LOTR approach to Thor...would that have a real chance of working here? I dunno...but the Stargate approach sounds perfect.

[JeetKuneDo]

Just saw the comic con footage on a website...I am officially more excited for this than anything else. Hemsworth is a PERFECT Thor, thats all i have to say

I showed the footage to my nephew (13) and brother....two non-comic readers...and they both were very impressed. I was curious how a non-fan would view it. The nephew immediately wanted to know when it comes out. ...Very disappointed that he has to wait almost a year.

[Humphrey Bogart]

Everything looks good for the most part. Hemsworth definitely has what it takes physically to pull this off. I am little worried about his acting ability though. I'm curious to see if he has the balance to pull all the different elements off. His speaking parts (and I am aware of the possibility of using different takes, went through that the Joker in the TDK trailers) left a little to be desired. I'm sure having the proper context will help things. Hopkins and Hiddleston both looked and sounded great. I'm sure some folks wanted Volstagg to be fatter but he doesn't look bad from what I saw.

[Figs]

Everything looks good for the most part. Hemsworth definitely has what it takes physically to pull this off. I am little worried about his acting ability though. I'm curious to see if he has the balance to pull all the different elements off. His speaking parts (and I am aware of the possibility of using different takes, went through that the Joker in the TDK trailers) left a little to be desired. I'm sure having the proper context will help things. Hopkins and Hiddleston both looked and sounded great. I'm sure some folks wanted Volstagg to be fatter but he doesn't look bad from what I saw.

I also worry a bit about his acting ability but i'll wait to watch the finished movie before I judge him.

[Ziggyman]

I don't know much at all about Thor...but the footage looked alright though it didn't show very much...it didn't get me excited, but in all it looks decent enough to entice people with no knowledge of the mythos and character to watch...

[TheCorpulent1]

Now with Thor it occurred to me how much I loved Stargate. They also presented a mythical god in the light of being a part of a technological race and it worked perfectly and logically. The trailer actually make me think of this...the look is similar. Again...more than one way to make a great movie with this type of thing. LOTR is one way and Stargate is another. A LOTR approach to Thor...would that have a real chance of working here? I dunno...but the Stargate approach sounds perfect.
The thing I like about how they're tackling Thor--especially that line about magic and science being the same to the Asgardians--is that they're leaving it ambiguous whether he's magical or technological. The look of everything is a bit futuristic, but so was the look of Kirby's take on Asgard. The Asgardians had advanced technology right alongside their bona fide magic like Mjolnir and Odin's sorcery in the early comics, too. It looks like they're striving to walk that very fine line in the movie where there's just enough on either side of the magic/tech divide to allow audience members to interpret for themselves whether the Asgardians are magical gods or technological aliens or something in-between. Personally, I go with the former, but there's nothing to directly contradict the latter interpretations for those who aren't as comfortable with the idea of genuine pagan gods becoming superheroes.

[Wolvieboy17]

One thing i'm curious about, and Corp, maybe you can help me, but theres a shot, near where you see odin dead/in odinsleep with the tear, where you just see a guy with a bluey greeny face and red eyes. Any ideas who that is? A frost giant? Because its the shot JUST after you see Loki holding a cosmic looking glowing thing, so dare I suggest.... Thanos? (Probably not, but who knows?)

[TheCorpulent1]

I have no clue. Some of the enemies Thor, Sif, and the Warriors Three were fighting in other shots looked about the same color, so he might be another one of them. People have speculated those were frost giants, although I'm not sure how you'd call anything that's the same size as the gods "giants" of any kind.

When I saw the dude with blue skin and red eyes, I immediately thought "dark elf." Now that we're hearing the Casket of Ancient Winters may be in the film, I'm wondering if maybe it's supposed to be Malekith. He was a dark elf and he was the one who unleashed the Casket of Ancient Winters in the comics...

[Wolvieboy17]

Hmmmm definitely interesting. Especially that his shot appears in between loki with the glowing artifact and before Odin's apparent death, which leads me to think he's a significant character. If he's a frost giant, maybe he's Loki's biological father? Or at least the malevolent character who informs Loki of his true heritage.

[TheCorpulent1]

Could be. Someone suggested Ymir, who was the very first frost giant. As much as I like the idea of Malekith, he would probably be overload for this movie, what with Loki, the Destroyer, and Thor's whole origin story and romance with Jane already confirmed.

[Wolvieboy17]

Wasn't there another character/villain confirmed early on? Ahhhhh, i've totally forgotton his name now... Executioner perhaps? My Thor mythology is so rusty.

[Rock Sexton]

Exact feeling I got. Your music video set analogy was spot on.

I was afraid of this when I first heard they were cutting back on the budget because of the uncertainty with how the film would do. My nagging impression is of a sci-fi channel movie.

I'd also add that Hemsworth's look was fantastic, but his line delivery and acting were a bit disappointing.

With luck, post production will smooth out some of the edges, and the film will do well enough for them to go all in on Thor 2 and really splurge.

Even though I liked the trailer, I do agree with pretty much all you said.

[E.Brock]

(Anthony Hopkins in a commanding Odin Voice Speaks as Thor bows before him)

"I have sacrificed much..to achieve peace, so too must a new generation sacrifice to maintain that peace. Responsibility, duty, HONOR...these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire, they are essential to every soldier...to every king. Thor Odinson...for your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives....to the horror, to the devastation of war"

(cut to Odin standing before Thor speaking in a spiteful tone)

"You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy"

(Thor in an enraged state screams.. "AND YOU ARE A OLD MAN AND A FOOL!!:cmad:"

(Odin now somber sad tone) "yes, I was a fool...to think you were ready"

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

(Cut to Odin ripping thor's cape from his body) "YOUR UNWORTHY OF YOUR TITLE!!!"

"I know take from you, your power" (Thors hammer drops from his hand)

Odin - "In the name of my father, and his father before...I CAST YOU OUT"


Thor awakes on Midgard (Earth).....EPICCCCCCCCCCCCC

[TheCorpulent1]

I was confused about the cape bit. Thor's title is somehow conveyed through his cape? What's that about? :huh:

But cool scene, regardless. :)

[Rock Sexton]

The thing I like about how they're tackling Thor--especially that line about magic and science being the same to the Asgardians--is that they're leaving it ambiguous whether he's magical or technological. The look of everything is a bit futuristic, but so was the look of Kirby's take on Asgard. The Asgardians had advanced technology right alongside their bona fide magic like Mjolnir and Odin's sorcery in the early comics, too. It looks like they're striving to walk that very fine line in the movie where there's just enough on either side of the magic/tech divide to allow audience members to interpret for themselves whether the Asgardians are magical gods or technological aliens or something in-between. Personally, I go with the former, but there's nothing to directly contradict the latter interpretations for those who aren't as comfortable with the idea of genuine pagan gods becoming superheroes.

Actually I interpreted it as a plot moving device ala Deus Ex Machina. It's Marvel's way of saying to the audience "this is our explanation" for how they're supposed to bite on magic being in a real world setting, especially come Avengers.


I was confused about the cape bit. Thor's title is somehow conveyed through his cape? What's that about? :huh:

But cool scene, regardless. :)

I loved that part.

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't know, I get what you guys mean about the whole 'music video look' but I quite like that the Asgard scenes had a distinctly different look to things on earth. The earth scenes seemed alot more like Iron Man 1 & 2 in terms of picture quality and tone, and I honestly prefer the futuristic look for Asgard than just another cut and paste Lord of the Ringsesque fantasy world. You can see that effort has actually gone into the design. Also, I don't know why you'd fault Hemsworth's acting from that trailer alone lol. He says what, maybe 4 lines? None of which are really revealing anyway. All we can garner from that is what accent he's using, and I'm quite happy with the neutral british accent, with the hint of upper class regality. I'm very interested to see more of this film though, it's looking quite interesting.

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't think the cape is literally his power... I'm sure the scene involves all his armour and everything being stripped away, not just his cape. The cape probably denotes royalty, its clearly a symbolic thing.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually I interpreted it as a plot moving device ala Deus Ex Machina. It's Marvel's way of saying to the audience "this is our explanation" for how they're supposed to bite on magic being in a real world setting, especially come Avengers.
Well, there was no other way to do it, really. If they came down firmly in favor of either explanation, they would've alienated part of the audience. I certainly couldn't be as satisfied with a Thor movie where the gods are definitely debunked as simply technologically advanced aliens. I know this because they've tried to insert that explanation into some alternate universes in the comics and it always, always, always falls flat for me. Thor loses a bit of his luster if I can't personally believe that he's the true god of myth he claims to be. I suspect people who demand that the movies remain grounded would feel the same if they came down firmly in favor of the magic explanation, too. What they did seemed like a good compromise that allows everyone to interpret it for themselves and be happy.

[ultimatefan]

Given that the Lee/Kirby interpretation of the mythos is also dubious on the magical/technological aspect of Asgard, I can live with it. Plus, it leaves them open to not strictly follow norse mythology, which the comics don´t as well - Thor is actually pretty sleazy in norse mythology, if you read how he´s interpreted in the Sandman storyline Season of Mists, that´s much closer to actual mythology. A la X-Files and others, leave it to the audience to decide whether they´re Gods or not.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, if they followed Norse mythology verbatim, Thor and all the other Asgardians would be much closer to outright villains, bullies, and cheats than noble superheroes. Stan Lee definitely injected a lot of his own preconceived notions about nobility and responsibility into his adaptation of Thor. But the nice thing is that Thor's lesson in humility actually ties it all together and makes it plausible that he could be something close to the violent, angry bully he is in the myths and later on the superhero that he is in the comics.

[Wolvieboy17]

I agree Corp. It is the sensible option, but it doesn't feel tacky or cliched to me. After all, this approach is pretty much used with any narrative where magic meets logical world. Isn't that the whole angle in Harry Potter? Magic is essentially the technology of that world. Besides, It doesn't seem like the use of 'magic' will be particularly overt. It's not like Thor is going to be using 'Wingardium Leviosa' on anyone... Although he may summon a big f**k off lighting bolt to blast away a mofo.

[Whiskey Tango]

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.

edit: Thinking about it some more, that could also be what all the tilted camerawork is trying to help convey. Gilliam did the same thing in all the asylum scenes in 12 Monkeys.

[S.A.A.D.]

The Corpulent1,based on the footage,I would say that the Asgardians lean towards both,but being more on the magical side than the advanced technology side. Hence the techy looking place in the footage which has lead me to that conclusion,I have also come to a possible conclusion that the lion roar Thor had may have been a deliberate metaphor for an animalistic side. And that perhaps only certain Asgardians can behave that way.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree Corp. It is the sensible option, but it doesn't feel tacky or cliched to me. After all, this approach is pretty much used with any narrative where magic meets logical world. Isn't that the whole angle in Harry Potter? Magic is essentially the technology of that world. Besides, It doesn't seem like the use of 'magic' will be particularly overt. It's not like Thor is going to be using 'Wingardium Leviosa' on anyone... Although he may summon a big f**k off lighting bolt to blast away a mofo.
Thor's definitely always had a more visceral type of magic. His powers may derive from magical sources, but in practice he's gonna basically just hit you in the face with his hammer or throw you through a wall or blast you with lightning. :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.
That scene toward the end of Heimdall holding his sword and snarling was f***ing scary the first time I saw it. :up:

[Rock Sexton]

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.

edit: Thinking about it some more, that could also be what all the tilted camerawork is trying to help convey. Gilliam did the same thing in all the asylum scenes in 12 Monkeys.

I love that scene because it shows the quality of acting Sir Anthony Hopkins has shown time and time again. He's delivering this solemn, disappointed father speech then BOOM his tone has jumped 100 notches and you can feel the anger in his disappointment.

[Wolvieboy17]

Which is what I personally cannot wait to see Corp lol. Although, I think my favourite shot in that trailer is when Thor kicks the SHIELD guy through the ET quarantine material, out into the desert. I'm really pumped. Also, I think it's funny that most people seem to be worrying about the Asgard stuff, when I think the earth stuff looks far more interesting. I really think it's an interesting story to explore, the arrogant, brutish warrior who has to learn nobility. A bit like Daniel Craig as James Bond, I think.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

heh I'm 49.
I went to the Kubert School WITH Adam and Andy Kubert in my CLASS, Jim Balent sat behind me, Eric Schanoer was in the room over, same year tho 2nd year.
I'm not ANCIENT but yeah I've been following Thor for YEARS!

Ah well, I hope the movie lives upto expectations for then Vartha.

[ALP]

The trailer was leaked so can't be posted here right?

[TheCorpulent1]

Correct. Feel free to talk about it, though.

[piccolo]

(Anthony Hopkins in a commanding Odin Voice Speaks as Thor bows before him)

"I have sacrificed much..to achieve peace, so too must a new generation sacrifice to maintain that peace. Responsibility, duty, HONOR...these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire, they are essential to every soldier...to every king. Thor Odinson...for your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives....to the horror, to the devastation of war"

(cut to Odin standing before Thor speaking in a spiteful tone)

"You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy"

(Thor in an enraged state screams.. "AND YOU ARE A OLD MAN AND A FOOL!!:cmad:"

(Odin now somber sad tone) "yes, I was a fool...to think you were ready"

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

(Cut to Odin ripping thor's cape from his body) "YOUR UNWORTHY OF YOUR TITLE!!!"

"I know take from you, your power" (Thors hammer drops from his hand)

Odin - "In the name of my father, and his father before...I CAST YOU OUT"


Thor awakes on Midgard (Earth).....EPICCCCCCCCCCCCC

Reading it, that really is some kick ass dialogue. Unfortunately, I don't find Hopkins' voice commanding at all, more like an english gentleman than an all-powerful lord of asgard, and Hemsworth sounded contrived.

OTOH, Loki was very good.

All of the dialogue I heard from the trailer was great, they have good writers. Just the delivery is somewhat of a disappointment with all of them. Eh, just my opinion though, I can still see why everyone is so excited.

[TheCorpulent1]

The delivery's awesome to me. Hopkins' especially. I've noticed I'm reading Odin in the comics with his voice in my head now. :up:

[batsfan81]

So the scene when Thors' on earth and the Warriors three and Sif are behind him, can we assume he's looking at the Destroyer? Then he goes gets the hammer since he's worthy and then its hammer time? And then goes back to Asgard to fight Loki?

[Anubis Raptor]

I'm looking forward to the scene where Thor takes on the whole fleet of guards in the rain. Looks epic and goosebump evoking:yay:

[TheCorpulent1]

So the scene when Thors' on earth and the Warriors three and Sif are behind him, can we assume he's looking at the Destroyer? Then he goes gets the hammer since he's worthy and then its hammer time? And then goes back to Asgard to fight Loki?
Probably something like that. I imagine it's when the Destroyer figures out where Thor is and Thor, human or not, decides he's gotta come out of hiding and face it for the sake of Jane and the other humans. You can see the determination on Chris' face as he walks in that scene, which implies to me that he's steeling himself for a big showdown he knows he can't win.

[Chewy]

So the scene when Thors' on earth and the Warriors three and Sif are behind him, can we assume he's looking at the Destroyer? Then he goes gets the hammer since he's worthy and then its hammer time? And then goes back to Asgard to fight Loki?
That's what I got out of it. And it appears Volstagg is injured

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm guessing Volstagg, being Volstagg, throws himself headlong at the Destroyer to protect Thor or buy him time or something. "Ha! This walking metal can is no match for valorous Volst--(the Destroyer knocks him 20 feet away)--erk!" :funny:

[protocida]

Probably something like that. I imagine it's when the Destroyer figures out where Thor is and Thor, human or not, decides he's gotta come out of hiding and face it for the sake of Jane and the other humans. You can see the determination on Chris' face as he walks in that scene, which implies to me that he's steeling himself for a big showdown he knows he can't win.
Which shows that he has learned about humilty and is now worthy of possesing the power of Thor. And, as that, he finally lifts the hammer and opens a can of kick-ass on the Destroyer.

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably. Which actually makes me curious how close they are to the SHIELD facility in that scene. If they're pretty far, Thor's gonna get roughed up pretty bad just trying to make his way to the hammer.

[Project862006]

i am amazed how good they did on transforming Stevenson into volstagg

[TheCorpulent1]

He looks a lot fiercer than the comics' version. Reminded me of LotR's Gimli, actually. I wonder if they'll still play him primarily as comic relief or if he'll be a more serious warrior...

[Matt Mortem]

I hope Volstagg is a bit more lighthearted.

[MOVIELORD101]

Just to ask, what's the rock music heard later in the footage? It sounds VERY familiar.

[Darkness Falls]

i was just about to ask that same question

[JAK®]

Reading it, that really is some kick ass dialogue. Unfortunately, I don't find Hopkins' voice commanding at all, more like an english gentleman than an all-powerful lord of asgard, and Hemsworth sounded contrived.

OTOH, Loki was very good.

All of the dialogue I heard from the trailer was great, they have good writers. Just the delivery is somewhat of a disappointment with all of them. Eh, just my opinion though, I can still see why everyone is so excited.
I don't really hear that all, especially as he is using his natural welsh accent.

[Vartha]

Ah well, I hope the movie lives upto expectations for then Vartha.
Oh it has that's why when I look at this footage and it's NOT finished I'm amazed and I'll need to start an aspirin regiment to watch the finished version lol

[misjuevos]

I think Thor is captured after he tries to recover mjolnir and fails. The part where he screams. So he falls to his knees and feels defeated and shield just surrounds him and the you see him talking with coulson. Then the warriors 3 and sif come to help him regain his worth. Loki sends the destroyer to stop Thor from regaining mjolnir and his rightful place as the true heir. Thor some how proves his worth by fighting the destroyer with out his power. Long story short Thor gets mjolnir back and lightning rains down.

[Darkness Falls]

i can't wait for thor vs the destroyer :D

[samsnee]

The way Hopkins says "Take away your power!" makes me cringe. Although, I think the line in general is poorly written.

[Morg]

Now, now. No swearing at others

[MOVIELORD101]

The way Hopkins says "Take away your power!" makes me cringe. Although, I think the line in general is poorly written.

I highly disagree. I think the line and Hopkins' delivery of it were both JUST FINE. I don't understand why you guys keep giving this film a hard time.:csad:

[Darkness Falls]

i got chills during thor/odin's exchange

especially the "I CAST YOU OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" line

[Aesop Rocks]

Me too. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked the "in the name of my father... and his father before..." part. Asgard's a very patriarchal society. Nice that they retained that in the dialogue, at least, since I doubt we'll see anything of Bor or Buri in the actual film. :up:

[Project862006]

i love the end shot of Thor jumping throwing his hammer before THOR text came on screen

[batsfan81]

I said it before and i'll say it again: epic. Next summer is going to be amazing for movies.

[Figs]

I highly disagree. I think the line and Hopkins' delivery of it were both JUST FINE. I don't understand why you guys keep giving this film a hard time.:csad:

I've already started to ignore it. Most of it all comes down to the sudden surge of people exagerrating about how SHIELD's in the movie is ruining them or taking away from the main character. Some of the biggest BS if you ask me.

It's sort of *****ing for the sake of *****ing. In IM2, SHIELD was used to help the story as opposed to being forced in for the most part but people just write it off as having no reason to be in the film.

As a movie with the comic nerd blinders off, IM2 wasn't all that great but as a comic film and in comparison to the first it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. If they would have toned down the comedy here and there especially in the birthday party scene, as well as give Rourke more to do then the movie would be on par with the first in my eyes.

I can understand that some people would just prefer to not have SHIELD/Fury in the movies but I don't think it's hurt them so far.

[TheCorpulent1]

Even if SHIELD was a bit overdone in IM 2, you have to admit, it makes a hell of a lot of sense for them to be in Thor. A hammer falls out of the sky and becomes magically immovable. When paranormal s*** goes down in the movieverse's world, SHIELD shows up. Well, it doesn't get more paranormal than a mysteriously immovable hammer crashing into the middle of the desert, drawing people's attention from all the surrounding towns.

[Figs]

Even if SHIELD was a bit overdone in IM 2, you have to admit, it makes a hell of a lot of sense for them to be in Thor. A hammer falls out of the sky and becomes magically immovable. When paranormal s*** goes down in the movieverse's world, SHIELD shows up. Well, it doesn't get more paranormal than a mysteriously immovable hammer crashing into the middle of the desert, drawing people's attention from all the surrounding towns.

Exactly. I loved IM, and liked IM2 and TIH enough to be excited for this MMU that is being created. Hopefully Thor and Captain America won't let us down.