The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[Superark]

He certainly opened pandora's box didn't he.
I sure don't envy the mods in whats about to happen. ( if the article is right that is)


Clint's usually got a good track record with his reports.

[SuperMike335!!]

I was also puzzled by his tweet, the bloke seemed REALLY keen on landing the role then suddenly pulls out?
This of course leads to us wondering why...
We could just assume he's landed a role which will clash with Superman thus taking him out of the equation.. But then he tweets "but keep your fingers crossed and thanks for the wishful thinking".. I mean, what does that mean?
Keep your fingers crossed for Joe or keep your fingers crossed for Superman in general?
Does Joe/his agent know something about the casting process that we don't?
Is there something about Joe that puts him out of the frame.. Age perhaps?

It's all very strange...

Its just as much an assumption that he "pulled out".

He said he is not in negotiations.

Thanked the fan support, and said keep fingers crossed.

This could as easily mean that they gave him the role.

Hence, not negotiating. If it’s a "done deal", well then, its not being negotiated.

Offhand I find this to be unlikely, but based on the information we have its hard to say anything for sure at this point.

If it does turn out to be a done deal, then I'm the first to guess it.

[Superark]

Its just as much an assumption that he "pulled out".

He said he is not in negotiations.

Thanked the fan support, and said keep fingers crossed.

This could as easily mean that they gave him the role.

Hence, not negotiating. If it’s a "done deal", well then, its not being negotiated.

Offhand I find this to be unlikely, but based on the information we have its hard to say anything for sure at this point.

If it does turn out to be a done deal, then I'm the first to guess it.

But what Showtime and Jamie have pointed out is that usually when an actor starts being so open to the public about a role he wants or was in contention for, it usually means he is out of the running. If they have a real strong chance or are chosen for a role, the studio will tell them to keep their lips tight and not even talk about the role

[SuperMike335!!]

But what Showtime and Jamie have pointed out is that usually when an actor starts being so open to the public about a role he wants or was in contention for, it usually means he is out of the running. If they have a real strong chance or are chosen for a role, the studio will tell them to keep their lips tight and not even talk about the role

Hence why I said offhand, its unlikely.

I would be surprised if it turned out he was cast.

I’m just suspicous enough to go "ah ha!" if it turned out however.

This does not mean impossible, weirder things have happened.

The "not negotiating" could be a red herring.

[Stripesy Strip]

Scariest thing about this, you could be right. Superman: Earth One was probably preemptive revisionism, so this time when the movie comes out nobody can say it's not faithful to the new "source material."

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Dizzy+Feet+Foundation+Inaugural+Celebration+C16YkH W_OZWl.jpg

Rick > Armie

He's only 6'2", and he actually resembles Superman, unlike Joe M, or Hammertime. Cudmore is a sideshow freak at 6'8" so he's not viable either.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/quiz/uploads/1190608788346.jpg

RICK, RICK, RICK!!!

He was my top choice for Cap(given his personality and so forth). Maybe he would do a good Supe' given the requirement for both characters are pretty similar.

Although I think they'll want a less goody-two-shoes for Superman this time.

[Rust]

I dont think Manganiello's tweet said anything.

"Just to be clear"...? Come on, your tweet only confuses.

Unless it actually means that he knows something and that he unwillingly steps down, but how could he when Snyder said they're not even discussing cast.

"... but keep your fingers crossed"...? Again, kinda useless post.

At any rate, I really, from an observational and rational point of view, dont think Manganiello is being considered and much less Welling. Routh seems far-fectched too, but who knows. Hollywood doesnt make alotta sense...

[AntMan]

I trust Clint, he doesn't make a habbit of posting BS.

[Superark]

I dont think Manganiello's tweet said anything.

"Just to be clear"...? Come on, your tweet only confuses.

Unless it actually means that he knows something and that he unwillingly steps down, but how could he when Snyder said they're not even discussing cast.

"... but keep your fingers crossed"...? Again, kinda useless post.

At any rate, I really, from an observational and rational point of view, dont think Manganiello is being considered and much less Welling. Routh seems far-fectched too, but who knows. Hollywood doesnt make alotta sense...

You're being incredibly naive if you think Snyder and WB aren't even considering casting at this point or discussing it

[Eze]

Sucker Punch release date is 03/25/11, has Snyder actually finished his involvement in that project? Poor guy, his last two projects are getting overshadowed by MoS, it must get a bit annoying.

"Ya ya Sucker Punch- Smucker's Lunch, who are you gonna ca\S/t already!!!"

[Rust]

You're being incredibly naive if you think Snyder and WB aren't even considering casting at this point or discussing it

Probably. Well, sure Snyder, Nolan and their wives are probably venting ideas, yeah, but I imagine that's all for now. WB on the other hand are probably hard at work scouting.

[I Am The Knight]

Sucker Punch release date is 03/25/11, has Snyder actually finished his involvement in that project? Poor guy, his last two projects are getting overshadowed by MoS, it must get a bit annoying.

"Ya ya Sucker Punch- Smucker's Lunch, who are you gonna ca\S/t already!!!"

Or they might get more attention because of his Superman involvement. It works both ways.

[hopefuldreamer]

I'll tell you what, if Nolan and Snyder were to cast any of the 'forbiddon names' (other than a certain one from the tudors), Hammer, Hamm or Mangaliello, I will eat my hat.

And seriously it would change my whole perspective on these things.

Right now, I am 89% sure that none of them will be seriously considered for the role. That's only based on my own gut feelings about both Nolan and Snyders typical casting (good actor, slightly odd choice), what TPTB will require from a Superman actor (I.e. Heartthrob, possibility of sequels) and what I personally think would look good on screen (strong jaw line, muscular but not arnie style, not too old)

[Rust]

^ :up:

It will most likely be someone we've (mostly) never heard about. Again, that gut-feeling...

[LadyVader]

Scott Porter?! Really?!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/BaileysPhotos/Potential%20pbs/boys/scott-porter.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I like the dude and especially the fact that he's a comic book fan, but... I never would've thought of him for this.

[BH/HHH]

Scott Porter?! Really?!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f24/BaileysPhotos/Potential%20pbs/boys/scott-porter.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I like the dude and especially the fact that he's a comic book fan, but... I never would've thought of him for this.

Who mentioned Scott Porter?

I'd be happy if he got it myself although I do also think he'd make a great Flash

[I Am The Knight]

He was associated with both Superman and Flash for George Miller's Justice League.

[BH/HHH]

He's in my top 5 list for Superman for sure

[Blackman]

Like him more for Wally Flash then Supes

[BH/HHH]

Does it ever seem like we are having the same conversations on here over and over :D

[RachelDawes]

Found a little one of him with glasses

http://www.markpaulgosselaar.net/images/promo/p189.jpg

I kinda like him. He fits better than a lot of other people anyway.

http://www.markpaulgosselaar.net/images/cic/cic9.jpg

http://www.markpaulgosselaar.net/images/nypd/nypd041.jpg

Hmm, he looks really different in glasses. Appropriate for Clark Kent.

[GreenKToo]

Showtime mentioned porter a loooong time ago. As for the casting, i'm betting they're looking hot and heavy for their supes right about now.

[superhey]

The new actor who will play the man of Steel has to look like a MAN!
30 to 37 years old and it will be better if the actor will look like the Alex Ross Superman. It is the real face of Superman!



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PDVvMvCGCgs/Swy9BbEm-dI/AAAAAAAADQI/b-Cu0gwtu1c/s1600/superman3.jpg

[TheWatcher]

Patrick Wilson is interested! :awesome:

http://www.**************.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=24984

Thank God for some good tidbits of possible casting!

[Mace Bloodstone]

Interesting, Joe Manganiello is almost 34.

[kal-elrebooted]

Interesting, Joe Manganiello is almost 34.
Yeah and the fact that he was in negation with Warner Bros for the role as Superman

[ChickenScratch]

No he's not, he said so on his twitter himself. It's more internet bluster over nothing.

[EliteF50]

Patrick Wilson is interested! :awesome:

http://www.**************.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=24984

Thank God for some good tidbits of possible casting!

Awesome! He'd be a great Man of Steel! And if you've seen Little Children, you'd know he can bulk up if he has to.

[The Watchman]

The new actor who will play the man of Steel has to look like a MAN!
30 to 37 years old and it will be better if the actor will look like the Alex Ross Superman. It is the real face of Superman!



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PDVvMvCGCgs/Swy9BbEm-dI/AAAAAAAADQI/b-Cu0gwtu1c/s1600/superman3.jpg

30 to 37 is fine, but Alex Ross Superman looks 50+

[flickchick85]

I'd be perfectly happy with either Wilson or Manganiello. :up:

[echostation]

What about Oliver Jackson from the movie Faster? He's been getting pretty good inside word on his performance in that film...

[Jake Cassidy]

Wilson would be a great Superman, but he'd be an awesome Lex.

[Project862006]

What about Oliver Jackson from the movie Faster? He's been getting pretty good inside word on his performance in that film...
looks like Jake G imo

[batman44]

^A more Supermanly looking Jake G:p Seriously, I think he looks good. I'd be game for him getting a audition.

[AntMan]

I wouldn' complain if Wilson is cast, but I wouldn't jump up and down about it. It would kind of meh.

[7heBoss]

The new actor who will play the man of Steel has to look like a MAN!
30 to 37 years old and it will be better if the actor will look like the Alex Ross Superman. It is the real face of Superman!



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PDVvMvCGCgs/Swy9BbEm-dI/AAAAAAAADQI/b-Cu0gwtu1c/s1600/superman3.jpg

I know that I am going to get some evil glares for this but I have always disliked Alex Ross' Superman

[AntMan]

So have I.

[romeogbs19]

I know that I am going to get some evil glares for this but I have always disliked Alex Ross' Superman

<gives the evil glare>

Ross' Superman is a return to the Shuster/Siegel design, IMHO. The body on the other hand is probably something in between the muscle-bound brute Superman became during the 90s and what the original creators had in mind.

As for his age, I think 35-45 is about right for an Alex Ross Superman. I think that's actually the range in age of the male actor Alex uses for his Superman drawings (I met the actor and Alex during the midnight showing of SR -- sat right next to Alex, actually).

I'm a big proponent for putting Alex Ross' Superman on the big screen for this one. I think that's the way to go, and given the copyright problems and the fact Nolan said this is a one-shot film, all the more reason to deliver a different epic vision with an older, more mature Superman.

[AntMan]

I hate Ross Supeman's face. I can't put my finger on why.

[Slugster]

Because its an out of shape Superman, a bit puggie you might say.
Sheild is tooo big and old fat Superman

[Lone]

I hate Ross Supeman's face. I can't put my finger on why.

I've always felt Ross' Superman looks like he'd give you lecture for 10mins right after saving your ass while telling you to "stand up straight, son!" in between sentences.

[AntMan]

Rnss's Supeman looks like a sour faced grump.

[Asgard]

That pic superhey posted has Superman in a state of barely controllable sadisitc lust.

[Mako]

I for one would think Patrick Wilson would make an awesome Superman.

[BH/HHH]

Not a fan of Patrick Wilson at all, I agree with whoever said he'd be better as Barry Allen. He doesn't look like Superman to me at all.

[JAK®]

It doesn't seem as if he's in the running anyway. In fact based on his words he'll only try for a role if he sees something he likes in the script, and that could be any character.

[Keyser Soze]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PDVvMvCGCgs/Swy9BbEm-dI/AAAAAAAADQI/b-Cu0gwtu1c/s1600/superman3.jpg

http://www.lippsisters.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/freddy1.jpg

!?!?!

[SuperMike335!!]

I've seen Ross art that I do like, some I do not.

If Superman looks "too old" for example, I'm not a fan.

I think the oldest his face should ever look, even if his hair has gone white is about 45 tops.

As far as I know in DC continuity he should live to be well over 100,000 years old (source DC 1 million).

Anyway, back to subject, sometimes Ross has him looking late 30's early 40's but not fat or pudgy in the face. Those I'm ok with.

http://a.imageshack.us/img96/2060/alexross.jpg

To me that one ^ does not look like somebody who looks pudgy, fat or soft, but more like Clint Walker did in his 40's.

[GinsterHead]

The new actor who will play the man of Steel has to look like a MAN!
30 to 37 years old and it will be better if the actor will look like the Alex Ross Superman. It is the real face of Superman!



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PDVvMvCGCgs/Swy9BbEm-dI/AAAAAAAADQI/b-Cu0gwtu1c/s1600/superman3.jpg

No thanks. I like Alex Ross and his artwork, but there's times where his Superman looks like a fat, sweaty old man on the brink of a massive heart attack...and several strokes. :dry:

[solidsnake86]

Ross is a great artist but I don't care for his character models, IMO they are one worse then the other (especially his wonder woman). I like when other artists actually do the base sketch and his paints based on there rendering.

As for Patrick Wilson, probably everyone from one of snyder's past movies is going to say there interested. On top of that with Nolan as producer I could see how a lot of actors would hope by getting involved its the next batman. I still say Armie Hammer will be one of the top contenders for this project. I also realized that some of the manips people make actually make the actor look worse then they probably would as superman.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Joe Mang's comments are interesting. I'd root for him more than the other contenders allowed mentioned here.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

No to Wilson tho. Good actor but no Superman.

[Bruce_Begins]

NO to Wilson.

[Superman2007]

Wilson is no, he was good as Night Owl though.

Also, the only role I'd be fine with Joe playing in a Superman movie would be goon #3.

[Aesop Rocks]

No to Wilson, that True Blood dude, The Rock, and John Cena.

Still, Jon Hamm is the only person who remotely has my interest in this.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

No to Wilson, that True Blood dude, The Rock, and John Cena.

Still, Jon Hamm is the only person who remotely has my interest in this.
Hamm's great but much better suited for Batman. He looks like Bruce Wayne not Clark Kent.

[Eze]

No to Wilson, that True Blood dude, The Rock, and John Cena.

Still, Jon Hamm is the only person who remotely has my interest in this.

Agreed, I'd take a certain brit over Hamm, but we need an actor this time. We sacrificed looks for Keaton to be Batman, and it was worth it. Unless Juilliard is holding out on us, no more inexperienced clones.

[GreenKToo]

I'd be ok with wilson, but i'd prefer hamm.

[Eze]

Hamm's great but much better suited for Batman. He looks like Bruce Wayne not Clark Kent.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l623/Hronm33r/kent-2.jpg?t=1288522469
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l623/Hronm33r/FCurl-1.jpg?t=1288522680

Looks fine to me, certainly resembles the character enough. Bear in mind Hamm is a bit of a method actor, Don Draper is suspicious, secretive, aggressive and indulgent, and Hamm wears those emotions on his face, that's why, as Don Draper, he doesn't resemble \S/ as much. I made those manips from his GQ shoot. Watch him on SNL, his face transforms based on his character, he's tough to recognize facially during his impersonations of Robin Williams and Pee Wee Herman.

[Maze]

Patrick Wilson as Jor El, yes? No?

[Superman2007]

Patrick Wilson as Jor El, yes? No?
Not an awful suggestion, but I think we could get someone better.
A real "name" actor would be better.

[AntMan]

I like Jon Hamm but his age is a problem for me. By the time they start shooting he'll be 40, and he looks older than that now. He's just too freaking old IMO.

[BH/HHH]

I like Jon Hamm but his age is a problem for me. By the time they start shooting he'll be 40, and he looks older than that now. He's just too freaking old IMO.

:up:

If this was Kingdon Come then fair enough

[Maze]

Rumor:

Comments
The name I hear on the WB lot is Ryan McPartlin. He’s on Chuck. Certainly looks the part.

By Chris on November 8, 2010

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/2010/11/08/is_true_blood_star_joe_manganiello_in_contention_f or_snyder_superman

[gdw]

Not an awful suggestion, but I think we could get someone better.
A real "name" actor would be better.

I was always really behind the casting of Hopkins as Jor-el in a reboot.

[BH/HHH]

Rumor:



http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/2010/11/08/is_true_blood_star_joe_manganiello_in_contention_f or_snyder_superman

I like how that article says Zak Snyder's Superman but has a picture of Joe M next to a pic of Chris Nolan :D

[BATS N' HORNETS]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8818

JOE M. for the win!

[Dark Knight]

Rumor:



http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/2010/11/08/is_true_blood_star_joe_manganiello_in_contention_f or_snyder_superman







Meh.....

[FilmNerdJamie]

There's been some miscommunication about what Joe Manganiello did and didn't say.

"So the blogging got you the part of Alcide, so now everyone is blogging to get you the part of Superman. How close is that?"

"I love my fans. I met with Warner Bros and we’re talking about it. There’s a lot of factor that have to go in obviously but we’re talking about it so thank you."

http://www.accidentalsexiness.com/2010/11/08/what-joe-manganiello-really-said-about-superman-role/

[Sawyer]

Eh. Pass.

[Maze]

So he met with warner bros..Interesting.

[Blackman]

The only suggestions I would be cool with are

HC
Hamm
and Hammer

Although HC and Hamm are better suited for Batman

Joe doesnt seem right, but looking at the rumors it does seem like they are going older

[Sawyer]

Still want Hamm for Rick Flag. :o

[Karelia]

So he met with WB, but he's not negotiating yet, right? If so, cool. I hope he gets the part. :D

[Sawyer]

No to Wilson, that True Blood dude, The Rock, and John Cena.

Still, Jon Hamm is the only person who remotely has my interest in this.

Whoever suggested him should be taken out behind a shed and shot like Old Yeller. :o

[GreenKToo]

One things for sure, it won't be long now until we know who it is.

[Zack Snyder]

I think Joe wants the part and if it means overstating his support, that's what he will do. He figures any publicity he can get will work in his favor. Interesting plan but I'm hoping there is a better choice than him or Hamm for that matter.

[AntMan]

The thing is, some fans think Hamm is the best choice. If this thread proves one thing, it's Superman fans can't agree on anything.

[SuperMike335!!]

The thing is, some fans think Hamm is the best choice. If this thread proves one thing, it's Superman fans can't agree on anything.

True.

Hopefully the first production photos we see of the actor in costume, makeup etc... Can sway some when he finally is cast.

They will never get 100% support, but they can at least get 51% or more.

[Eze]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8818

JOE M. for the win!

Lobbying for the part, by anybody, seems unsavory IMO.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Just because he is publically lobbying I don't see him getting the role. Remember that Percy Jackson kid was talking up him being on the Spider-Man list? And who got the role again?

[RalphD]

Hey guys, I've been following this thread for awhile, thought I'd add my two cents.

As a huge fan of Alex Ross, I'd love to see an older, more mature version of Superman. I'm a concept artist myself, so here's my take on Jon Hamm as Superman. I think he'd be a great choice with the right physical training. Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth bulked up quite nicely for their superhero roles, and if you think older guys can't pull it off, all the cast from 300 comes to mind.

Also, Supes' costume can have some muscles airbrushed on it, which is a subtle effect that worked very well for Spiderman. I also tried to get rid of the baby blue and brown costume, in favor of cyan and magenta. It's still not the orange red from the 80's, but it's closer to what people are used to and still looks fairly modern. I also got rid of the redundant belt crest, but I kept the shorter trunks, as the huge diaper looks really outdated nowadays. The neckline is also broader, as seen in most versions.

As for Jon being too haggard looking, a good makeup and the right hairdo goes a long way. I've used around 5 pictures of him, changing only the lighting. But it's all Jon, including the hair. The body, however, belongs to Joe Manganiello, whose build is far more acceptable for the role today.

Still, I think this guy was born for this role!


Cheers,
Ralph

http://d.imagehost.org/0986/supes.jpg

[Project862006]

not to mention that one dude lobbying for thor did'nt work out either

[cerealkiller182]

Or Captain America. Remember that youtuber Ben

[Yurka]

Jon Hamm would be absolutely perfect on every level for Superman. The humor and humanity of Clark, and the confidence and intelligence of superman, Hamm can pull it all off.

Manganiello looks more intimidating than Hamm but Superman never came off to me as an ominous, big-meathead (sorry Joe fans) but aside from that, I dont believe hes even half the actor that Hamm is.

I'd rather have Routh than Manganiello for the reboot,... poor Routh.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Just because he is publically lobbying I don't see him getting the role. Remember that Percy Jackson kid was talking up him being on the Spider-Man list? And who got the role again?

Bingo. Although in that case, I think the kid made a mistake and accidentally blabbed. Manganiello damn well knew what he was doing.

[AntMan]

Lobbying is better than asking "Where's the drama?". I want someone who wants the part, and not just a fat paycheck.

[Eze]

Just because he is publically lobbying I don't see him getting the role. Remember that Percy Jackson kid was talking up him being on the Spider-Man list? And who got the role again?

Sorry, I worded it poorly, I don't mean Joe M per se, actors can't stop fans from supporting them. I meant more the idea if hollywood started casting based on who had the biggest twitter following.

[I Am The Knight]

Lobbying is better than asking "Where's the drama?". I want someone who wants the part, and not just a fat paycheck.

Bingo.

[Keyser Soze]

Lobbying is better than asking "Where's the drama?". I want someone who wants the part, and not just a fat paycheck.

I think the whole "being a fan" malarky that some fans get so worked up about and feel is so important is overrated. Ben Affleck was a huge Daredevil fan. Didn't stop the movie sucking. And remember the outrage when Heath Ledger talked about never really being a comic fan, and thinking most comic book movies sucked? Didn't stop him from being an amazing Joker.

John Hamm has talked pretty intelligently about comic book films, and the ones he feels have worked best in recent years. The "where's the drama" line wasn't so much a off-hand dismissal of Superman as a question for how a filmmaker could make an invulnerable character human and relatable, asked in a way that seemed like he was open to hearing an answer. In subsequent interviews he mentioned - when he wasn't saying he thought he was too old for the part - that he could be pretty interested in the role if it was offered to him.

[TheWatcher]

Hey guys, I've been following this thread for awhile, thought I'd add my two cents.

As a huge fan of Alex Ross, I'd love to see an older, more mature version of Superman. I'm a concept artist myself, so here's my take on Jon Hamm as Superman. I think he'd be a great choice with the right physical training. Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth bulked up quite nicely for their superhero roles, and if you think older guys can't pull it off, all the cast from 300 comes to mind.

Also, Supes' costume can have some muscles airbrushed on it, which is a subtle effect that worked very well for Spiderman. I also tried to get rid of the baby blue and brown costume, in favor of cyan and magenta. It's still not the orange red from the 80's, but it's closer to what people are used to and still looks fairly modern. I also got rid of the redundant belt crest, but I kept the shorter trunks, as the huge diaper looks really outdated nowadays. The neckline is also broader, as seen in most versions.

As for Jon being too haggard looking, a good makeup and the right hairdo goes a long way. I've used around 5 pictures of him, changing only the lighting. But it's all Jon, including the hair. The body, however, belongs to Joe Manganiello, whose build is far more acceptable for the role today.

Still, I think this guy was born for this role!


Cheers,
Ralph

http://d.imagehost.org/0986/supes.jpg
Your casting is good,but that suit/manip is FANTASTIC!

[superhey]

John Hamm is a great actor, but I do not see him has Superman, he look to old. I prefer Matt Bomer or Joe M.

[AntMan]

Being a comic fan doesn't matter but wanting the part does. I want someone who feels they have something to offer the charactor.

[Zack Snyder]

Hamm looked his best on that Coco opening intro. That may due his some favors in getting cast. :p

[Octoberist]

John Hamm is a great actor, but I do not see him has Superman, he look to old. I prefer Matt Bomer or Joe M.

Maybe it's just a simple typo, but I've noticed an increasingly alarming usage of using 'to' instead of 'too'.

[Zack Snyder]

Maybe it's just a simple typo, but I've noticed an increasingly alarming usage of using 'to' instead of 'too'.
Agreed.

[The Watchman]

I've come to one conclusion here, Alex Ross has severe daddy issues, and as he ages he needs to keep Superman older than himself, there's some armchair psychology for you.

[Zack Snyder]

Interesting theory.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Bingo. Although in that case, I think the kid made a mistake and accidentally blabbed. Manganiello damn well knew what he was doing.

Joe never had much of a shot to begin with.

[Man of Tomorrow]

If this thread proves one thing, it's Superman fans can't agree on anything.

The only two worthwhile choices for Superman with the most agreeability have separate threads in this forum.

Obviously Joe Manganiello, Armie Hammer, Jon Hamm, Patrick Wilson, Rick Malambri, Scott Porter, Jake Gylenhaal etc would create major disagreement, they're all mediocre choices for Superman.

This is why the studio's best bet to find someone meeting the physical parameters of Superman (facially and proportions) is testing complete unknowns again.

[Octoberist]

@Man of Tommorow

Speak for yourself. Don't bring in Jon Hamm or Hammer into the picture when there's (mainstream) support for them, despite if you like any of two actors for the role or not.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Jon Hamm, himself, said publicly many times he's too old to play the big blue boyscout.

While Hammer isn't necessarily a bad choice, he doesn't score many points when it comes to facial resemblance to the character. Superman doesn't wear a mask, so the look is key.

Hammers recently bulked up, but he still doesn't have a great look for the role:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/130/originals/130340_armie-hammer-talks-playing-double-for-the-social-network.jpg


I understand why many would want to settle on him given he's a up and coming name in Hollywood now with buzz, is 6'5, is American,.... but personally I think Superman deserves better than such a mediocre choice.

He's better than Manganiello though, but that doesn't mean much.

They need to look at unknowns again if they want someone as great as Reeve once was.

[GreenKToo]

I don't think it will be an unknown this time. IMO I think it will be someone like a hamm, hammer, or wilson. They're not really well known, but they're not exactly unknowns either. I think too much is riding on this to risk an unknown in the role.

[gdw]

Jon Hamm, himself, said publicly many times he's too old to play the big blue boyscout.

While Hammer isn't necessarily a bad choice, he doesn't score many points when it comes to facial resemblance to the character. Superman doesn't wear a mask, so the look is key.

Hammers recently bulked up, but he still doesn't have a great look for the role:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/130/originals/130340_armie-hammer-talks-playing-double-for-the-social-network.jpg



I understand why many would want to settle on him given he's a up and coming name in Hollywood now with buzz, is 6'5, is American,.... but personally I think Superman deserves better than such a mediocre choice.

He's better than Manganiello though, but that doesn't mean much.

They need to look at unknowns again if they want someone as great as Reeve once was.


I think many are put of by him having a slightly pudgy looking face. I would have to reserve final judgment till I saw his face tighten up. Remember Bale's face after he bulked up between The Machinist and Batman Begins? A good bit different than when he was finally under the cowl.

[Slugster]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=8818

JOE M. for the win!

I think he is going for someone other than Superman after reading it.

He says "Just to be clear... as of today, I am not "negotiating" to play SuperMan"

[MechaOrga]

Looking at the BTS shots of a bulked up Chris Evans and the Photo Spread in EW, I hate to think our best shot at a modern ,youngish, superman was missed in not hiring him....

I would be very very very surprised if a "complete" unknown is cast as superman....

if this truly is a Superman Begins type film, i don't know guys, Hammer just checks off so many boxes in my mind (height, voice, critical acclaim, good in interviews, YOUNG)

and im the guy who keeps bringing up Gylenhaal and Gosling. Better known than Hammer and still in the magic age range for a Superman Begins type film.(even though me included, they are not out #1 picks for the part)

time will tell....

[solidsnake86]

I think Hammer is a good choice, far from mediocre. On top of that he can act which is one of the main reasons that people complain about those other two actors. Also its hard to pass judgement on how they look now. I remember that photo they released of Routh when he was announced in the black t-shirt, it wasn't the most superman shot around. Not to mention he's got the social network under his belt which they also got there spider-man from that movie.

[Superman2007]

Jon Hamm, himself, said publicly many times he's too old to play the big blue boyscout.

While Hammer isn't necessarily a bad choice, he doesn't score many points when it comes to facial resemblance to the character. Superman doesn't wear a mask, so the look is key.

Hammers recently bulked up, but he still doesn't have a great look for the role:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/130/originals/130340_armie-hammer-talks-playing-double-for-the-social-network.jpg


I understand why many would want to settle on him given he's a up and coming name in Hollywood now with buzz, is 6'5, is American,.... but personally I think Superman deserves better than such a mediocre choice.

He's better than Manganiello though, but that doesn't mean much.

They need to look at unknowns again if they want someone as great as Reeve once was.

Hammer looks like a long-lost N-Sync member in that pic.

[Keyser Soze]

if they are going to re-launch superman with a new actor its got to be HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED as #1 pic

Fixed! :woot:

[GreenKToo]

^ Lol. Anywho, no telling who we get. I'm honestly afraid to guess.

[dark_b]

show me a brown haired actor that looks normal with black hair and give thumbs up for Hammer

[AntMan]

He Who Must Be Named sounds better and better everyday.

[JAK®]

show me a brown haired actor that looks normal with black hair and give thumbs up for Hammer
Christopher Reeve?

[solidsnake86]

I'm pretty sure there are clips of Hammer in a movie which he has black hair/

[AntMan]

Bale looks normal with black hair.

[RachelDawes]

He Who Must Be Named sounds better and better everyday.

Which "He who must not be named"? There are three of them. :woot:

[Rust]

Yep, I guess we have to start giving them numbers. In that case No. 1. :)

[RachelDawes]

Yep, I guess we have to start giving them numbers. In that case No. 1. :)

Still doesn't help. :funny:

[AntMan]

The Brit.

[Doc Samson]

I've posted numerous picks of him, and I can't see how some of you guys think Wilson doesn't look like Clark, especially considering some of your suggestions, like Hamm, who IMO, looks absolutely nothing like The Man of Steel.

[gdw]

Christopher Reeve?

Bazinga.

[Eze]

Jon Hamm, himself, said publicly many times he's too old to play the big blue boyscout...

True, but the context was self-deprecating humor, Hamm was being modest. I pray to Zod we get an older lead, the equivalent of a Keaton in Batman because all these young guys suck. Either too ugly, too blonde, too balding, or too inexperienced.

My top three:
1)The Brit.
2)Hamm or Experienced leading man.
3)Rhymes with South, if they go inexperienced at least he looks the part.

[AntMan]

Do we have to have someone who's pushing 40? I would prefer an actor in the 30-35 age range.

[Eze]

Keaton was 38 in 1989, I'm pretty sure he was allowed to wear makeup in his Bruce Wayne scenes. If a few wrinkles are the price to pay for Hamm, or any other experienced lead, so be it.

CR was the exception, unknowns cannot just rise to the occasion and lead a movie.

[NIGHTSWING]

Since we are tossing names in the hat! I am go with an unkown. He' in a Chevy Truck commerial right now, and has done some thearte and yes modeling! He did get a call back the last time when they went with BR, and then again he read for the JLA movie some time ago, but of couse that both those fell apart and he didn't get picked. So my pick is Donovan Klein. He's the right age, and is in super shape.

http://www.hoffmanmodels.com/find_talent/detail.php?model_id=24

[Doc Samson]

Honestly people, how does this guy not look like Superman, as some of you suggest?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x153/jdareal21/patrick_wilson.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x153/jdareal21/3259320794_14d11fd34b.jpg

I'm telling you, not only has he showed interest, not only does he look the part, especially in the face, not only does he have the prior working relationship with Snyder, but he basically did his best Clark Kent rendition in Watchmen already. He's a very good actor, has the charm Superman needs, and doesn't look down on the genre, in fact, I'm sure he'd be pretty excited about it. Patrick Wilson is the man for the job

[BH/HHH]

He doesn't look tha part at all and his hairline is receeding

[AntMan]

Bale and Jackman were in their early 30's when they were cast as Bruce Wayne and Logan. Last time I checked they were not greenhorns.

[Doc Samson]

He doesn't look tha part at all and his hairline is receeding

The hairline isn't a problem, if Superman is to fly, I'm sure they can give him a spit curl :whatever:.

[Rust]

"He doesn't look tha part at all and his hairline is receeding"
Yeah, probably too old(looking) and not super-enough looking. Also has a bit of that "parodic" Hamm-too-classical-hero look about him.
He would probably be a better hero with a comedy twist.

[Eze]

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/PatrickWilson2.jpg

What BH/HHH said.

He's got the jaw, the cheekbones, and the nose for it, but his chin is pointy when he smiles and his eyes are a little too close together/squinty, and of course, the hair is fail.

He's not that good an actor that we should forgive all those visual shortcomings.

[Eze]

Bale and Jackman were in their early 30's when they were cast as Bruce Wayne and Logan. Last time I checked they were not greenhorns.

Greenhorns? how so? I don't get yer point.

I'd cast Jackman, if Deadpool can be GL, i don't see why HJ can't juggle both, scheduling conflicts not withstanding. Jackman's a great actor who resembles the character enough for me.

[GreenKToo]

I can't wait until we get an actual list of actors thats up for it. Its hard to pull for someone not knowing if they will even be considered or not. Once we get a list, then i'll pick my favorite from it.

[Pickle-El]

Honestly people, how does this guy not look like Superman, as some of you suggest?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x153/jdareal21/patrick_wilson.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x153/jdareal21/3259320794_14d11fd34b.jpg

I'm telling you, not only has he showed interest, not only does he look the part, especially in the face, not only does he have the prior working relationship with Snyder, but he basically did his best Clark Kent rendition in Watchmen already. He's a very good actor, has the charm Superman needs, and doesn't look down on the genre, in fact, I'm sure he'd be pretty excited about it. Patrick Wilson is the man for the job

:up:

[JAK®]

Patrick Wilson looks like Green Lantern to me. Anyway, I'd prefer if actors didn't play more than one superhero.

Did you know that he is 'only' 5'11 also? He looks taller than that but there you go. Food for thought.

[Rust]

I'm still rooting for no. 1. :up:

[Red Cherry Lips]

I'd be happy with Wilson. :)

[Eze]

I can't wait until we get an actual list of actors thats up for it. Its hard to pull for someone not knowing if they will even be considered or not. Once we get a list, then i'll pick my favorite from it.

So true, a favored candidate could be eliminated for no other reason than scheduling. That would suck most I think, "Coulda been your guy but..."

[GreenKToo]

I'd be fine with wilson, and I think he'll get a look since he has already worked with snyder, as will hamm.

[Rust]

Probably, but nothing more than that.
Again, I think it'll be an "outsider", a someone they cast outta the blue. Happens all the time.

[JAK®]

Wilson's interview that implicated his involvement with this movie states that he would MAYBE try for a PART if he saw anything in the script he liked, which hardly sounds like someone who is in the running for Superman.

[Zack Snyder]

A lot of people are starting to think it will end up being Hamm simply because, even if he was never in contention the internet rumor kind of blew up to the point he was definitely put on the radar. There hasn't been outright opposition to the idea, he is a solid actor, and it seems like something Nolan would be up for.

I still hope they can find better, but it does feel like he could end up being the choice.

[Robin91939]

I think Patrick Wilson would be a good Superman, but I think he would be a GREAT Clark Kent.....watch him in Watchmen as Dan Dreiberg, very Clark Kent.

-R

[AntMan]

Eze, I said they were NOT greenhorns i.e. not inexperienced. I said I want an actor who is 30-35, your post seemd to imply that age range would too inexperienced. I then made the point about Bale and Jackman's ages when they were cast in their roles. Bale had been in movies since he was a kid, and Jackman was a broadway vet. Youth doesn't always equal inexperience.

[Changeling]

http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/patrickwilson.jpg
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Patrick_Wilson%20-%201%20-%20Little_Children.jpg
Come on guys, this screams Superman!!
Patrick Wilson would be a fantastic choice imo.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

A lot of people are starting to think it will end up being Hamm simply because, even if he was never in contention the internet rumor kind of blew up to the point he was definitely put on the radar. There hasn't been outright opposition to the idea, he is a solid actor, and it seems like something Nolan would be up for.

I still hope they can find better, but it does feel like he could end up being the choice.

As much as I would love that, Hamm's been my #1 for a couple years now, I don't wanna think of it as a guarantee. From what I've heard he's not terribly interested in doing it, apparently he's said he's "too old" a few times. Unless he was just keeping it light because he hasn't been spoken to officially yet. He IS in Sucker Punch though, so Snyder knows him... and he seems like the sort of serious actor Nolan would wanna work with too. I dunno, I hope.

[cerealkiller182]

I wouldnt be upset if Wilson got the role. Hes an excellent actor. Could really do the wholesome hero bit and probably do the socially awkward reporter too

[Eze]

Eze, I said they were NOT greenhorns i.e. not inexperienced. I said I want an actor who is 30-35, your post seemd to imply that age range would too inexperienced. I then made the point about Bale and Jackman's ages when they were cast in their roles. Bale had been in movies since he was a kid, and Jackman was a broadway vet. Youth doesn't always equal inexperience.

I never claimed it did, nor did I ever claim Bale or Jackman were greenhorns. Experience is experience, just because an actor is 30-35, doesn't mean he is experienced, hence my desire for an experienced actor.

[Dark Knight]

I don't think it will be an unknown this time. IMO I think it will be someone like a hamm, hammer, or wilson. They're not really well known, but they're not exactly unknowns either. I think too much is riding on this to risk an unknown in the role.






Agreed.

It just depends on what age the story/script/screenplay is calling for Clark Kent/Superman to be really.

If the story calls for Superman to be in his 20's, than I'm sure Armie Hammer is going to be considered.

If they want an actor in their mid 30's than Patrick Wilson "may" be looked at also.

If the script calls for a mature manly looking Superman in his late 30's than Jon Hamm will probably be looked at and he can bulk up easily into Superman shape IMO.

[JAK®]

So while I don't like the idea of Wilson in the role, I decided to do a manip anyway;

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/superman_wilson.jpg

Doesn't look too bad actually.

[JAK®]

Well I was a bit disappointed in it so I made another one;

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/wilson2.jpg

[x-fan]

for fun someone do one of Hugh as Supes, of course my choice (the one i got banned for mentioning, has grown as an actor and matured, doesn't look like a kid anymore, shame it''ll never happen) can't be named.

[flickchick85]

Ok...I feel the need to preface this by saying this guy is in NO WAY a new favorite of mine for the role or anything like that, but I just felt like throwing a fresh face out there that I don't think has been brought up here before. At least I don't think he has: Sam Page? AKA, The Other Hot Guy From Mad Men (Joan's a-hole husband)?



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8680/sp00123sampage1.jpg


http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9606/spaugustmanmalaysia02.jpg


He's 33-years-old and was also a regular on Shark and recurring on Desperate Housewives and Gossip Girl. Far from an ideal choice, I know - I only bring him up because there are a lot of people here who want more of an "Old Hollywood" look to their Superman, and this guy on multiple occasions has strongly reminded me of a young Marlon Brando. Like here, for example:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7572/spsampagenkmh0.jpg

And while I'm sure he lacks Brando's acting chops, he seems to at least be a decent actor from what I've seen. Anyway, as I said, not a top choice of mine or anything, just another name for the pot. Feel free to tear it apart. :oldrazz:

[I Am The Knight]

It says 35 in there.

[flickchick85]

Lol, I just checked IMDB, and he apparently just turned 34 four days ago. Of course.

[Keyser Soze]

Ok...I feel the need to preface this by saying this guy is in NO WAY a new favorite of mine for the role or anything like that, but I just felt like throwing a fresh face out there that I don't think has been brought up here before. At least I don't think he has: Sam Page? AKA, The Other Hot Guy From Mad Men (Joan's a-hole husband)?



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8680/sp00123sampage1.jpg


http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9606/spaugustmanmalaysia02.jpg


He's 33-years-old and was also a regular on Shark and recurring on Desperate Housewives and Gossip Girl. Far from an ideal choice, I know - I only bring him up because there are a lot of people here who want more of an "Old Hollywood" look to their Superman, and this guy on multiple occasions has strongly reminded me of a young Marlon Brando. Like here, for example:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7572/spsampagenkmh0.jpg

And while I'm sure he lacks Brando's acting chops, he seems to at least be a decent actor from what I've seen. Anyway, as I said, not a top choice of mine or anything, just another name for the pot. Feel free to tear it apart. :oldrazz:

He's a really good actor in the various things I've seen him in. Don't know if I see him as Superman. I've seen worse choices, though. Kudos on bringing up a fresh face.

[epc11223]

i see patrick wilson more as a barry allen flash type character. i see him as a crime scientist or something. to me, his face is too slim and he doesn't really have the guy next door look. he's an ok choice, but i would rather have someone else portray superman in the next film. superman is such a difficult person to cast for because he has to have the guy next door look, while also somewhat looking like a model, but also kind of like a lumberjack lol. to me superman has to be able to portray clark on the farm, the daily planet and superman. say what you will about singer, but i think these aspects of clark are important. welling, cain, reeve, and routh all had these qualities. i just don't see patrick wilson on a farm. he kind of looks nerdy to me. i think this film is going to have clark with the kents.

[epc11223]

that sam page guy is listed as 6' on imdb, but i think he has more of a boyish/guy next door look. in my opinion he has a better look than patrick wilson.

[elgaz]

Patrick Wilson is a great actor, and I thoroughly enjoyed him in anything I've seen - he was a decent bad guy in A-Team, fantastic as Nite Owl in Watchmen, and I also liked his stints in LakeView Terrace and Passengers. But I just can't see him as Superman ......... I could - at a stretch - buy him as Clark Kent, but he doesn't have the Superman look at all. Receding hairline unfortunately does him no favours either. IMO there are many better contenders out there for the Superman role, but I'd be more than happy to see Patrick Wilson in a supporting role, or even playing Lex.

[Stripesy Strip]

Wilson is too average-looking. Superman needs to be a big, charismatic, massive man.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Which "He who must not be named"? There are three of them. :woot:

Two actually :P

And they both have threads in this forum.


The third is irrelevant to this Superman project and thus even the mention of him in the Superman forum is not allowed, gotta love it. :word:

They've done a good job maintaining order this time around, thank goodness.

[baleheadbrasil]

100000...times NO to Patrick Wilson as Superman.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think many are put of by him having a slightly pudgy looking face. I would have to reserve final judgment till I saw his face tighten up. Remember Bale's face after he bulked up between The Machinist and Batman Begins? A good bit different than when he was finally under the cowl.

It's not really the pudginess. I just don't see a facial resemblance there to Superman.

Armie looks more like Judge Reinhold :

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090224001928/uncyclopedia/images/9/90/Judge_Reinhold.jpg

[JAK®]

He does look like Judge Reinhold, but lacks all the features that makes Judge Reinhold a bad candidate for Superman.

He looks far more like Jeff East in Superman: The Movie, which is a good thing to me.

[I Am The Knight]

^^Not to me, there was something very off about him. Maybe it was the wig and fake nose.

[JAK®]

^^Not to me, there was something very off about him. Maybe it was the wig and fake nose.
Well Armie Hammer has the benefit of a real nose and real hair.

[MechaOrga]

wilson is not a bad choice but isn't he too old and too short (he looks short in most of the movies i see him in)...

BTW i love the idea for Hamm as an established superman if the story calls for it...


i do think that this will be a "superman begins" type film where the actor will need to play young(early twenties) to mid thirties, just like Bale did.
(**cough*armiehammer*cough*Gylenhaal*cough*gosling *cough**)

Makes sense to reintroduce the GA to superman and not assume they can invest their emotions to a character from Donner's film...

Plus to US, smallville is prevalent, but CW ratings are soooooo small compared to other shows...people buy and large wont mind another origin edited in like BB.

So new continuity MUST = new origin +actor (sorry BR fans....)

[TheWatcher]

Patrick Wilson looks like Green Lantern to me. Anyway, I'd prefer if actors didn't play more than one superhero.

Did you know that he is 'only' 5'11 also? He looks taller than that but there you go. Food for thought.
He's 6'1?

[JAK®]

He's 6'1?
He's reported as such, but he's not;

CelebHeights (http://www.celebheights.com) has him listed as 5'11.

[TheWatcher]

He's reported as such, but he's not;

CelebHeights (http://www.celebheights.com) has him listed as 5'11.
Who knows? I've seen 4 different sites that say otherwise.

[TheWatcher]

Double post.


Razzle Frazzle.

[JAK®]

Who knows? I've seen 4 different sites that say otherwise.
Well celebheights bases it's heights on evidence that it has gathered, not the height they list on casting sheets.

[JAK®]

Anyway,

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/hammermanreturns.jpg

[7heBoss]

100000...times NO to Patrick Wilson as Superman.

make that 100001, i dont see him as superman either

I'm voting for the people that can't be mentioned. plus Matt Bomer, I'd accept him too

[GreenKToo]

I'd have to say no thanx to matt. he's too short and not the right build. He looks the part in the face tho.

[Slugster]

The freaking hair is backwards!!!!!

[Denny67]

http://true-blood-episodes.download-tvshows.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Joe-Manganiello.jpeghttp://toddyenglish.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/joe_manganiello_20090703a1.jpg?w=350&h=527
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID14380/images/joe_manganielle_shirtless_true_blood.jpg


Joe Manganiello 6'5" 225lbs

He defiantly has the frame to pack on a lot more mass. Since there are not too many Superman shirtless scenes he could even forgo some rip for bulk.
All he would need to do is augment his diet and workout some.

[flickchick85]

Some people like him, some people really don't, but if there's one thing Manganiello definitely DOESN'T need to do to be suitable for the role, it's workout. He's already more buff than anyone who has ever played Superman.

[GreenKToo]

Joe M is how I envision superman to be built. Put trucco or walsh's face on that body and add hamm's acting ability in, then there you go.

[Serene]

Two actually :P

And they both have threads in this forum.


The third is irrelevant to this Superman project and thus even the mention of him in the Superman forum is not allowed, gotta love it. :word:

They've done a good job maintaining order this time around, thank goodness.

Actually, don't gotta love it.

You might consider this order, but I'd call it something else.

[I Am The Knight]

Joe M looks pretty good, but I don't know about his acting. I've only seen him as Flash.

And now for something completely unrelated:

Why can't we mention The Brit in here? My understanding was that the bad blood was between the Smallville fans and the SR fans. Did something happen while I was away that changed this....?

[Asgard]

He was becoming too big for this thread.

Give it another month and Joe M's gonna have his own thread.

In another 2 months Hamm's gonna have his own thread.

So on and so on.

[Sawyer]

Joe M looks pretty good, but I don't know about his acting. I've only seen him as Flash.

And now for something completely unrelated:

Why can't we mention The Brit in here? My understanding was that the bad blood was between the Smallville fans and the SR fans. Did something happen while I was away that changed this....?

His acting is good, just not for Superman IMO.

[Doc Samson]

Just happened to catch Jon Hamm on Conan a few seconds ago. I hope all you guys on that bandwagon get a chance to check it out, and see exactly what he thinks about the role. At least my guy shows some type of enthusiasm towards it

[Eze]

Now I can't wait to see what he said! :woot:

[Karelia]

Basically what he says in all his interviews when asked about Superman. Too-old-for-Supes-Jokes. :D He's a funny guy.

[Denny67]

His acting is good, just not for Superman IMO.

Why?

[Denny67]

Just happened to catch Jon Hamm on Conan a few seconds ago. I hope all you guys on that bandwagon get a chance to check it out, and see exactly what he thinks about the role. At least my guy shows some type of enthusiasm towards it


Did he repeat his previous statement where he said that he is too old for the role?

If so he is right, and I applaud his honesty and ability to recognize his own limitations.

[Eze]

Stand back now, we got a new playah.
http://www.obsessedwithsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/player-haters-chappelle.jpg

[Seen]

Did he repeat his previous statement where he said that he is too old for the role?

If so he is right, and I applaud his honesty and ability to recognize his own limitations.

Pretty much. I don't honestly see Jon Hamm even wanting to be Superman based on the attitude he exhibited on Conan.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Hamm was so delish-looking on Conan. Yummo. :fhm:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Why can't we mention The Brit in here?

It's the fault of his fans. They were being uncavillized a few months back.

My understanding was that the bad blood was between the Smallville fans and the SR fans. Did something happen while I was away that changed this....?

There's no bad blood, the mods are just keeping things organized and relevant this time around.

[Man of Tomorrow]

He was becoming too big for this thread.

Give it another month and Joe M's gonna have his own thread.

In another 2 months Hamm's gonna have his own thread.

So on and so on.

Unlikely.

Manganiello is likely already out of the running as per his recent statement.

Hamm already mentioned he looks too old to play Superman.

These two names will be irrelevant soon enough.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Actually, don't gotta love it.

You might consider this order, but I'd call it something else.

And what would that be?

Do tell.


Whatever the SHH higher-ups did seems to be working. The Superman forums are clean and clear, no issues with trolling, no pointless casting wars.

It worked out brilliantly.

[Man of Tomorrow]

He looks far more like Jeff East in Superman: The Movie, which is a good thing to me.

I can't honestly say Jeff East had a good look for Superman though.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100916050522/superman/images/thumb/4/4e/Clarkkent-youngthemovie.jpg/185px-Clarkkent-youngthemovie.jpg

He works as young Clark on the Smallville farm, but that's a completely different role compared to Superman.

[Eze]

Well if Hamm is out cause he's too old then the choice is clear...

That's right run away Wilson, time's up Hammer, show's over Joe M.

Time to send in the Marines!


:supes:JOHN mothertrucking CENA!!!
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/The-Marine-john-cena-02.jpg

[Antonello Blueberry]

Maybe they can use Cena's body with Jon Hamm de-aged face pasted on.
Snyder would do that. I hope they won't let him though.

[AntMan]

When I watch Jon Hamm I see Frank Castle, not Clark Kent.

[Kurosawa]

Well if Hamm is out cause he's too old then the choice is clear...

That's right run away Wilson, time's up Hammer, show's over Joe M.

Time to send in the Marines!


:supes:JOHN mothertrucking CENA!!!
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/The-Marine-john-cena-02.jpg


:doh:

The things some websites say....

[Denny67]

Unlikely.

Manganiello is likely already out of the running as per his recent statement.



Huh?

His tweets read:


Just to be clear... as of today, I am not "negotiating" to play SuperMan 2:39 PM Nov 6th (http://twitter.com/joemanganiello/status/1040882350432256) via Twitter for Android (http://mobile.twitter.com/)


followed by


...but keep your fingers crossed and thanks for the wishful thinking! 2:40 PM Nov 6th (http://twitter.com/joemanganiello/status/1041247909187584) via Twitter for Android (http://mobile.twitter.com/)


http://twitter.com/joemanganiello


Hardly anything even resembling disqualifying statements or a breach of a NDA. :whatever:

[Denny67]

Well if Hamm is out cause he's too old then the choice is clear...

That's right run away Wilson, time's up Hammer, show's over Joe M.

Time to send in the Marines!


:supes:JOHN mothertrucking CENA!!!
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/The-Marine-john-cena-02.jpg


http://gangstayoda.com/images/yoda/smilies/smiley_puke.gif

[Man of Tomorrow]

Hardly anything even resembling disqualifying statements or a breach of a NDA. :whatever:

That's the closest you'll get to a clear cut admission that he's not in the running for Superman.

It's not surprising at all. TMT and others predicted this months ago. His vocal campaign to be Superman was very much a one sided deal.

[Denny67]

That's the closest you'll get to a clear cut admission that he's not in the running for Superman.

It's not surprising at all. TMT and others predicted this months ago. His vocal campaign to be Superman was very much a one sided deal.


The only thing it is close to anything, is a statement that he's not in any activate negotiations; nothing more and nothing less.

As far as anybody lobbying for the role for any extended period of time. Zack Snyder was named the director a little over a month ago (October 06, 2010). That being the case, I would not rule anything or anybody "out of the running" until Snyder or WB makes an official statement.

That said, I guess there will always be individuals who will apply a desired narrative to a statement or story based on what they want to hear or wish o be true. Regardless of what that "actual words" are saying. :dry:

[GreenKToo]

Joe M. may very well not get the gig, but the statement he made didn't sound like he was taking himself out of the running, or at least to me it didn't.
It sounded more like a ''I don't wanna screw this up so let me clarify'' type of statement.

[I Am The Knight]

Thanks for the info guys.

I like Joe M's look, but I honestly don't think he's gonna git it.

The Hamm thing seems to be dying down and....

That only leaves Hammer (who I don't think should be cast) and the Unnamed Ones as possibe casting choices that we are aware of at the moment.

[batlovescatDC]

I really hope that they at least give Matthew Bomer a shot at auditioning for the role.

http://www-movieline-com.vimg.net/images/bomer_superman.jpg

[JAK®]

Matthew Bomer comes across as a little guy, and I'm not just talking about his height (he's likely to be shorter than 5'11)

[elgaz]

Bomer has been mentioned a thousand times in this thread .................. he has the face, but that's it .... not the stature, build, height, etc ..... not enough to play a convincing Superman.

[batlovescatDC]

He doesn't look that short on White Collar and I worry more about acting capability and the actual look of the actor fitting Supes than height and so on.

And if you're referring to his body/how fit he is...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sgLON-oli9E/TJkew-e536I/AAAAAAAAGPM/aEElwOqWTSk/s1600/matt-bomer.jpg


And he can always pack on more.

[batlovescatDC]

Bomer has been mentioned a thousand times in this thread .................. he has the face, but that's it .... stature, build, height, etc are not enough to play a convincing Superman.



Okay... so you're saying that Bomer only has the face but not the stature, build, height, etc. so you wouldn't want him to play Superman. But at the same time you're saying that stature, build, height, etc. are not enough to play a convincing Superman. :huh:

That's very contradictory.

[elgaz]

Yes we want someone with the look and acting ability, but how can you say height is not a concern - do you want a Superman dwarfed by everyone around him?

I'm not referring to how fit he is, I'm referring to his overall build and stature. You can put lifts on Bomer to bring up his height, but he will always have the stature of a 5"11 guy and won't look broad enough or big enough next to someone who's naturally big like Routh, Reeve, etc.

[elgaz]

Okay... so you're saying that Bomer only has the face but not the stature, build, height, etc. so you wouldn't want him to play Superman. But at the same time you're saying that stature, build, height, etc. are not enough to play a convincing Superman. :huh:

That's very contradictory.

Typed my post on the iPhone and made some typos, I'd re-edited it sorry

[JAK®]

He doesn't look that short on White Collar and I worry more about acting capability and the actual look of the actor fitting Supes than height and so on.

And if you're referring to his body/how fit he is...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sgLON-oli9E/TJkew-e536I/AAAAAAAAGPM/aEElwOqWTSk/s1600/matt-bomer.jpg


And he can always pack on more.
It's not a matter of muscle. You need to take into account body frame, which makes all the difference. If a guy like Bomer packed on, say, 30 lbs of muscle, he'd be big but not broad. He simply wouldn't look the same as someone with wider shoulders and a bigger ribcage.

I look bigger than him there (but not in the same shape) and I'm the same height and 165lbs.

[batlovescatDC]

I'm not saying that I don't understand what you guys are saying and I'm not arguing with you over it. But imo he's a good candidate for the role. But then there are other candidates for the role I would like to see get it, as well. To each their own.

[flickchick85]

I watch White Collar regularly, and he DOES frequently seem very short on that show, imo. He seems more like 5'9". He's a short guy with a slight build. You can only cheat so much.

[JAK®]

David Hyde Pierce was listed as 5'11 for years. But he's actually 5'9. It happens quite a lot.

It seems 5'10 actors claim to be 6'0 and 5'9 actors claim to be 5'11.

[Eze]

It's not a matter of muscle. You need to take into account body frame, which makes all the difference. If a guy like Bomer packed on, say, 30 lbs of muscle, he'd be big but not broad. He simply wouldn't look the same as someone with wider shoulders and a bigger ribcage.

I look bigger than him there (but not in the same shape) and I'm the same height and 165lbs.

Good point JAK, body frame is easy to guage, compare head to upper torso. Boomer is tiny like a boy.:down

[Eze]

Wow, just watched Jon Hamm on Conan. Funny stuff about Superman, I don't see what else is he supposed to say when asked about his casting chances. Is he supposed to brag about how a mature take on the character is the only way to go? Is he supposed to badmouth all the young candidates for being too inexperienced? Seems respectful, even humble to make middle age jokes about himself, no?

[Rust]

Not that I suggest the dude or anything, but could they maybe be looking at at somebody like this guy?:

http://files.myopera.com/celebfan/albums/823295/channing-tatum-gq-magazine-august-2009-03.jpg


Put on some glasses there and he kinda has something going, but I have no idea how he'd be.

[LadyVader]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/120no5y.gif

I think that about covers it.

[Michael Corleone]

Good point JAK, body frame is easy to guage, compare head to upper torso. Boomer is tiny like a boy.:down

Something else about Bomer's body type: The more muscle he would pack on the more stocky and bulky he would look. It would actually be a detriment for him to gain weight. He does not have the body structure to naturally hold that much muscle. You need to have a taller frame to add muscle convincingly. Personally I'm 6'3 and even without working out...I would look like a monster when stacked up against Bomer even if he was bulked up. 30 lbs of muscle on a 5'9" frame would be drastic. My old work out partner was 5'10". He had a lot of strength, in fact surpassing me on some level and he still never gained that much size. Granted it's different when being filmed but Bomer was and still is below average in size and body type. He just doesn't have the physicality to pull off the role. Too many people on here seem to think it's as simple as gaining pounds of muscle. Bomer may not even have the ability to put on that amount of muscle. It all depends on your body type and his is a small frame and definitely a shorter ectomorphic shape. The type that can get ripped solid, but putting on large amounts of muscle is pretty tough.

People may try and use Reeve as an example as being very skinny and packing on the pounds. Packing weight onto a normal mesomorph 6'4" frame is a lot different. Reeve was already very athletic, but did not lift weights. The result of his success in gaining muscle mass can even be seen in the movie in stages. Some scenes he was smaller than others. This was because he was building muscle very quickly and perhaps even had to slow down, otherwise he could have looked a little too big.

[JAK®]

People of the same height can vary drastically in terms of how big they will look at the same level of muscularity as well.

[FilmNerdJamie]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/120no5y.gif

I think that about covers it.

Thank you, horrible Kevin Smith movie. But I'll instead listen to someone who can take criticism just as much as he dishes it out.

[Michael Corleone]

http://www.spikytv.com/wp-content/uploads/112009_0835_WhiteCollar1.png

Bomer is listed at 5'11" and Tom Dekay, his costar on White Collar, is listed at 6'2". Gives you a good idea of how Bomer just doesn't have much physicality for the role.

[TheWatcher]

Bomer is WAY too small. On a related note,Tom Dekay might make an interesting Perry White.

[Superark]

Bomer - great face, good/charismatic acting, wrong body

[SuperMike335!!]

Not that I suggest the dude or anything, but could they maybe be looking at at somebody like this guy?:

Put on some glasses there and he kinda has something going, but I have no idea how he'd be.

Channing Tatum?

Well, from what I have seen, his acting skill is not exactly Lawrence Oliver level.

That being said, it did not look like he had much in the way of scripts to work with, and white guy trying to sound "black" made him look sound like a tool - bearing in mind that could have been what the director asked him to do, and it makes about anyone sound absurd. The movie I saw was "fighting", 2 hours of my life I will never get back.

Anyway, maybe given better material Tatum can actually act, but I am not convinced.

Worth an Audition? Fair enough, give him a chance to prove it or dispell it.

[JAK®]

How about;

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Zachary-Levi-geeky-sexy.jpg

Zachary Levi as Superman?

[AntMan]

Tatum sounds "black" in all his movies to me. I think that's just how he speaks. Anyway he's a boarderline god awful actor and wrong for Superman.

[JAK®]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/superzachlevi.jpg

I'm liking the idea more and more...

[RachelDawes]

Channing Tatum?

Well, from what I have seen, his acting skill is not exactly Lawrence Oliver level.

That being said, it did not look like he had much in the way of scripts to work with, and white guy trying to sound "black" made him look sound like a tool - bearing in mind that could have been what the director asked him to do, and it makes about anyone sound absurd. The movie I saw was "fighting", 2 hours of my life I will never get back.

Anyway, maybe given better material Tatum can actually act, but I am not convinced.

Worth an Audition? Fair enough, give him a chance to prove it or dispell it.

I don't know if it qualifies as "better material" but he was also horrendous in G.I. Joe. I want him nowhere near Superman.

[<(o_o)>]

SUPERBRUCE

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j222/SPIDERMANBUNNY/SUPERBRUCE.jpg

[LadyVader]

Channing Tatum?

Well, from what I have seen, his acting skill is not exactly Lawrence Oliver level.

That being said, it did not look like he had much in the way of scripts to work with, and white guy trying to sound "black" made him look sound like a tool - bearing in mind that could have been what the director asked him to do, and it makes about anyone sound absurd. The movie I saw was "fighting", 2 hours of my life I will never get back.

Anyway, maybe given better material Tatum can actually act, but I am not convinced.

Worth an Audition? Fair enough, give him a chance to prove it or dispell it.

I like to think of Channing Tatum as the Keanu Reeves of the third millenium. I think he's a very genuine, likeable guy in real life, has no problem admiting he was a male stripper for instance, tried to do some cutsey online viral thing for Valentine's day about telling somebody you love them or something. But he just can't act. :) I don't know, maybe in Eagle of the Ninth (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034389/) will see some progress.

[That-Guy]

Channing Tatum makes Keanu Reeves look like Marlon Brando.

[I Am The Knight]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/superzachlevi.jpg

I'm liking the idea more and more...

It looks like Farrah Fawcett.

[AntMan]

70's Farrah or 00's Farrah? Someone should do a manip of Levi's face on Farrah's classic poster lol!

[Octoberist]

RIP Farrah

[TheWatcher]

SUPERBRUCE

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j222/SPIDERMANBUNNY/SUPERBRUCE.jpg
Kingdom Come anyone?

There is one problem with this manip though,you're cutting out his chin! BLASPHEMY! :awesome:

[Daybreak_st]

It's not a matter of muscle. You need to take into account body frame, which makes all the difference. If a guy like Bomer packed on, say, 30 lbs of muscle, he'd be big but not broad. He simply wouldn't look the same as someone with wider shoulders and a bigger ribcage.

I look bigger than him there (but not in the same shape) and I'm the same height and 165lbs.


But couldn't that be said about Chris Evans before Captain America. He's only around 5'11 and he was much thinner as Johny Storm, fit and muscular just smaller. Look at how much he beefed up for Captain America. I'm not lobbying for Bomer, just saying the whole argument about height is weak at this point. And if an actor has a solid muscular build then they can honestly add more mass to it. It's the guys without a basic muscular build who you have to worry about.

[That-Guy]

Celebrity Heights lists Evans at 6' and he has a pretty broad frame, so he generally looks pretty big in movies since most film actors are around 5'8" and are built like a sheet of paper. Bomer, while a great actor, kind of fits into that category. He's really ripped and I could possibly even see him in an action hero-type role, but Superman should at least be physically imposing. That doesn't necessarily means that he needs to be 6'5", but it does mean that he needs to look bigger overall than those around him.

But I do agree that folks here get a little too hung up on height. My personal favorite for the role (he who cannot be named in this thread) is (I think) about 6'1" and has a fairly broad frame, which would look right for Superman unless they cast a bunch of giants for the supporting roles.

[Daybreak_st]

Celebrity Heights lists Evans at 6' and he has a pretty broad frame, so he generally looks pretty big in movies since most film actors are around 5'8" and are built like a sheet of paper. Bomer, while a great actor, kind of fits into that category. He's really ripped and I could possibly even see him in an action hero-type role, but Superman should at least be physically imposing. That doesn't necessarily means that he needs to be 6'5", but it does mean that he needs to look bigger overall than those around him.

But I do agree that folks here get a little too hung up on height. My personal favorite for the role (he who cannot be named in this thread) is (I think) about 6'1" and has a fairly broad frame, which would look right for Superman unless they cast a bunch of giants for the supporting roles.

Yeah you make a good point about the broad frame. that is important.

[GinsterHead]

How about;

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Zachary-Levi-geeky-sexy.jpg

Zachary Levi as Superman?

:up:

Good call. I'm surprised more people haven't brought him up.

[Eze]

But couldn't that be said about Chris Evans before Captain America. He's only around 5'11 and he was much thinner as Johny Storm, fit and muscular just smaller. Look at how much he beefed up for Captain America. I'm not lobbying for Bomer, just saying the whole argument about height is weak at this point. And if an actor has a solid muscular build then they can honestly add more mass to it. It's the guys without a basic muscular build who you have to worry about.

There's nothing weak about the height argument, some of you don't understand what's going on. There is almost always a relationship between height and proportion, men 6' and over tend to be proportionately larger than men under 6', their arms and legs are longer relative to their own torso, and their shoulders are wider, relative to the width of their head.
http://mortell.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/image-16.jpg
Proportion, or frame, is determined by how many heads tall a character is, how many heads wide they are at the waist and shoulders, and how big their skull is compared to upper arm. No amount of training can significantly alter these ratios, that's what JAK meant by little guys with smaller frames actually look shorter when they bulk up.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l623/Hronm33r/Boomer.jpg?1289588304

Boomer has a huge noogin, and since skulls are the standard by which proportion is gauged, Boomer has a small "frame", or is proportionately small, in the same way boys are, large heads, short arms, narrow shoulders. I reduced his skull by 10% just to get near to Evans proportions, but no matter what he does in the gym, he cannot make his upper arm longer, shoulder girdle much wider or make his skull smaller. Most men 6' and over don't have disproportionately large heads and small torso's like Boomer does, so generally speaking, men over 6' are better suited to play superheroes.

[Daybreak_st]

:up:

Good call. I'm surprised more people haven't brought him up.


Yeah he's a great actor. I read somewhere though that he was taken back by fans negative reaction to the suggestion of him being Superman. Here it is: http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/08/04/chuck-star-zachary-levi-not-playing-superman/

Some quotes

"It's complete fiction," Levi told IGN (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1110168p1.html) when asked about the latest "Superman" rumors. "A bummer that it's complete fiction! I start getting these text messages from my friends, saying, 'What is going on? You didn't tell us any of this!' And I'm asking, 'What are you talking about?' I get this link emailed to me from my publicist. She goes, 'Just so you know…' I go check it out, and of course, on the bottom of that article there's all these comments, and every other article that spawned off of that and all the comments on those sites."

"The vast majority [of the comments] are like 'He couldn't be Superman!' And I'm like, 'All right! I get it!'" continued Levi.

"I guess one of the things that I fear is that people pigeonhole me in the nerd role. Because a lot them say, 'Well, I can see him as Clark Kent, but I can't see me as Supes.'" Levi laughed, adding, "I'm an actor! Just give me six months and a gym. Give me something! I guess one of the upsides is that people are going, 'I can believe him as Wally West. Make him The Flash! I can believe that!' Which would be amazing."

I like the suggestion personally i just don't think it's likely.

[Daybreak_st]

There's nothing weak about the height argument, some of you don't understand what's going on. There is almost always a relationship between height and proportion, men 6' and over tend to be proportionately larger than men under 6', their arms and legs are longer relative to their own torso, and their shoulders are wider, relative to the width of their head.
http://mortell.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/image-16.jpg
Proportion, or frame, is determined by how many heads tall a character is, how many heads wide they are at the waist and shoulders, and how big their skull is compared to upper arm. No amount of training can significantly alter these ratios, that's what JAK meant by little guys with smaller frames actually look shorter when they bulk up.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l623/Hronm33r/Boomer.jpg?1289588304

Boomer has a huge noogin, and since skulls are the standard by which proportion is gauged, Boomer has a small "frame", or is proportionately small, in the same way boys are, large heads, short arms, narrow shoulders. I reduced his skull by 10% just to get near to Evans proportions, but no matter what he does in the gym, he cannot make his upper arm longer, shoulder girdle much wider or make his skull smaller. Most men 6' and over don't have disproportionately large heads and small torso's like Boomer does, so generally speaking, men over 6' are better suited to play superheroes.


Yes i have Wizard's guide to drawing as well thanks. For the record Evans is 5'11 or 6' not much taller than Bomer and yet he's Captain America. There were plenty of arguments for a larger guy i'm sure but look at what we got. People constantly complained until low and behold they released pictures of a Super bulked up Chris Evans, now everyone is like "get CHris Evans personal trainer for whoever plays Superman" etc.

I was never advocating Bomer, as someone pointed out his frame is small that means no matter how much bulk he adds he'll never have broad shoulders, unlike Evans who does indeed have broad shoulders. Either way the height thing is still silly as their respective builds have more to do with the ability to develop a Super Hero appropriate physique more than the 1 inch difference in their height.

Also height in comics, proportions are often exaggerated to give the characters a more "heroic" appearance. It's not based solely on what tall people look like in real life. People of the same height can have different proportions, not just because someone is tall or short. People of all heights have various proportions.

[Rust]

Hell, I still wouldn't mind seing Levi in this. He may be able to pull a Michael Keaton and lose the goofyness. I'd love to see him make people eat their own words.

[That-Guy]

Yeah he's a great actor. I read somewhere though that he was taken back by fans negative reaction to the suggestion of him being Superman. Here it is: http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/08/04/chuck-star-zachary-levi-not-playing-superman/

Some quotes

"It's complete fiction," Levi told IGN (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1110168p1.html) when asked about the latest "Superman" rumors. "A bummer that it's complete fiction! I start getting these text messages from my friends, saying, 'What is going on? You didn't tell us any of this!' And I'm asking, 'What are you talking about?' I get this link emailed to me from my publicist. She goes, 'Just so you know…' I go check it out, and of course, on the bottom of that article there's all these comments, and every other article that spawned off of that and all the comments on those sites."

"The vast majority [of the comments] are like 'He couldn't be Superman!' And I'm like, 'All right! I get it!'" continued Levi.

"I guess one of the things that I fear is that people pigeonhole me in the nerd role. Because a lot them say, 'Well, I can see him as Clark Kent, but I can't see me as Supes.'" Levi laughed, adding, "I'm an actor! Just give me six months and a gym. Give me something! I guess one of the upsides is that people are going, 'I can believe him as Wally West. Make him The Flash! I can believe that!' Which would be amazing."

I like the suggestion personally i just don't think it's likely.

Yeah, I was (originally) one of the naysayers back when that rumor started, but after taking a look at some shots of him when he's not playing "Chuck," I could kinda see it. Something still seems a little off to me but perhaps with more muscle he could totally look right for the role. He's definitely a better actor than a lot of the names that have been floated around here, so that's a key factor.

It's strange though that the show Chuck has been a bit of a haven for Superman actors or Superman-rumored actors. Routh was on it, Bomer was on it, and of course, Levi is the title character.

[Daybreak_st]

Hell, I still wouldn't mind seing Levi in this. He may be able to pull a Michael Keaton and lose the goofyness. I'd love to see him make people eat their own words.


I know that would be awesome!

[Rust]

http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/x/4/x4byn4rfs1jmsfjn.jpg
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/zachary-levi-suit.jpg
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/zachary-levi-comic-con.jpg


Like the shot above stills like these show somewhat potential imo. He just has to stop smiling like an idiot and he'll be fine.

His frame also has potential. He's got pretty wide shoulders.

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/uploads/review_images/ZacharyLeviIMG_001523.jpg

[Mr. Thing]

Levi's a funny one. In most of the pics of the web he's doing his goofy smile, but in the ones he looks more serious, I can definitely see a good Superman in there.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2504/zacharylevisuit.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8793/zacharylevi000x0280x280.jpg

[Dagoods]

Hamm too old and too small...
Routh too small and way skinny

TOM WELLING: looks, body, experience, talent, simply SUPERMAN!