The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[Man of Tomorrow]

So you would be happy if we got some big loaf that looks like Superman but can't act?

That's extreme.

I don't think it's an absolute trade-off. But I would be fine with someone who has a great spot-on look for Superman even if their acting performance ability is marginal.

Nolan would have likely favored the acting aspect over meeting the physical requirements of Superman.

Zach will definitely match the physical aspects of Superman perfectly in the unknown actor selected. Snyder seems to value visual aspects like that.

The casting is probably the only positive I see in Snyder now having full reigns over Superman and Nolan backing down.

[DorkyFresh]

Who the f*** is that? Not a bad look.
he has a good look, but i don't care for his acting. whatever charisma he has doesn't show through on film and i don't like his voice (kinda boyish).

One thing about Conway....He looks like the guy they would cast in a Superman parody, or ironic portrayal. Just not the real thing. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but....
i think it all depends on how he's portrayed. of course the videos where he's on stage he looks a bit cartoony because on the stage EVERYTHING needs to be exaggerated from voice performance to body language. in this clip he doesn't look so caricature like...

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1169888281217

[AntMan]

Walsh has a great look and his acting is pretty good in those clips. I say yes.

[NotFadeAway]

That was a great movie, though. :woot: Evans did a hilarious Freddie Prinze Jr. impression. It was one of the only two "movie" movies that were good (the other being the first Scary Movie).

Evans was hilarious in Teen Movie. Enough that he caught my eye and I made sure to remember his name. He was funny, but suave about it and that stood out to me.

[Polux]

Walsh has a great look and his acting is pretty good in those clips. I say yes.

He´s been my favorite ever since he was brought to the forums.


Polux

[TheWatcher]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4885/84229016.jpg
:super::super::super::super:

This needs manipulating people! :awesome:

[DorkyFresh]

i could buy Walsh as Supes if they did some audio editing to his voice. i don't really care for his acting, but i can look over that. however, i can't get past his boyish voice.

[DCnightwing23]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x41/cgm100/hwsupes.jpg

Really quick one of Harmon Walsh as Superman, just to see how he pulls off the look, enjoy.

[Mr. Thing]

Seriously digging Walsh for the part now. :up:

He has a terrific look and his acting seems fine.

[scoutboy]

just a thought :P

taylor kitsch

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/

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[Mr. Thing]

Meh, never seen him act but he looks a bit too "pretty boyish" and is rumoured to only be 5'11.

[I Am The Knight]

Really quick one of Harmon Walsh as Superman, just to see how he pulls off the look, enjoy.

That's quite a neck...But overall I dig him. He looks a bit like a young Michael Trucco.

Meh, never seen him act but he looks a bit too "pretty boyish" and is rumoured to only be 5'11.

So you haven't seen X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Good for you...He plays Gambit in that one.

[scoutboy]

Meh, never seen him act but he looks a bit too "pretty boyish" and is rumoured to only be 5'11.


but I thought superman has to look pretty boyish.....clark kent is supposed to be that way....

for example, IF welling could act better, wouldn't you consider him perfect for the role of superman??

a guy with similar looks to welling that can act better...

don't forget the film is supposed to be about young clark kent in his mid 20s

[Mr. Thing]

That's quite a neck...But overall I dig him. He looks a bit like a young Michael Trucco.



So you haven't seen X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Good for you...He plays Gambit in that one.

Nope, I have not. Never really got around to seeing it.

[Sub-Zero]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4885/84229016.jpg


not backing routh or anything but that reminds me of this:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/512/brandonrouth.jpg
the routh IS superman announcement pic.

[TheWatcher]

Walsh is not only a good actor according to those clips, he also looks the part in the face and body. He has broad shoulders,a thick neck,wide arms,etc.

[AntMan]

Walsh kicks major arse. He's soooo right for Superman it's not funny.

[The Watchman]

Watching his acting was mildly painful. Not crazy about his presence, voice or charm, though a script could give him charm and great director could coax a good performance out of him. He has the look, but I'm not sold on Walsh.

[Strider14]

not backing routh or anything but that reminds me of this:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/512/brandonrouth.jpg
the routh IS superman announcement pic.

Walsh has a much more manly look to him than Routh does, which is what I want to see for the Man of Steel.

[al35077]

but I thought superman has to look pretty boyish.....clark kent is supposed to be that way....

for example, IF welling could act better, wouldn't you consider him perfect for the role of superman??

a guy with similar looks to welling that can act better...

don't forget the film is supposed to be about young clark kent in his mid 20s

lol Welling isn't all that bad.

[Rust]

Walsh would be an ok choice, but they should probably consider plucking those brows of his first. They're kinda in-your face and would make him look less "heavy" without.

[JAK®]

Walsh looks like Christian Bale to me. I didn't like his voice or his acting in those clips so I say no.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not feeling him either.

[Ring Deacon]

I used his real body for this since so many people complain about just switching heads.. But here we go. It is a quick one.
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He has an ok look but can he pull off the role of a lifetime? This is a role that if you mess it up you will be known as the man that killed the Superman franchise.

[Gianakin_]

Bleh, I can't see him at all.

[Bruce_Begins]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4885/84229016.jpg

I think Walsh should get Batman role after Bale.

[AntMan]

I could ask you same the thing about Joe M. What makes you so sure he can pull off the role? They've both been bit players on TV. It's not as though Joe has done anything mind blowing acting wise. They're both decent actors with a good look.

[SuperZer0]

I think Walsh should get Batman role after Bale.

No to both Superman and Batman.

[That-Guy]

Walsh sort of looks like a photo mashup of Bale and Peter Gallagher. I can see Superman a little bit when I look at him, but not much. Maybe if his acting blew me away, but what I've seen of it hasn't done anything for me.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think Walsh should get Batman role after Bale.


Bale won't be leaving.

[SuperMike335!!]

I could ask you same the thing about Joe M. What makes you so sure he can pull off the role? They've both been bit players on TV. It's not as though Joe has done anything mind blowing acting wise. They're both decent actors with a good look.


That is why I get a kick out of all the posters who say "they NEED to cast so and So", or "JUST cast so and so".

They are SURE that their own beloved actor is 100% perfect for the role, they will rant and rave about him.http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6119/emt2willynilly.gif

Where I take issue with that, is they seem to forget the actor should have to pass a screen test for the role before being cast.

As much as I like Joe Manganiello, I think it would be absurd for him not to have to audition for the role. Same thing goes for Armie Hammer and all other suggestions.

[GreenKToo]

That is why I get a kick out of all the posters who say "they NEED to cast so and So", or "JUST cast so and so".

They are SURE that their own beloved actor is 100% perfect for the role, they will rant and rave about him.http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6119/emt2willynilly.gif

Where I take issue with that, is they seem to forget the actor should have to pass a screen test for the role before being cast.

As much as I like Joe Manganiello, I think it would be absurd for him not to have to audition for the role. Same thing goes for Armie Hammer and all other suggestions.
True. At times it's funny reading some of the posts about casting. Other times it's downright sad.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

That's a great point! and I never thought of it before. If this movie fails it will kill the Superman franchise for a long while, so they better cast it f**kin' carefully.

That's what I think of with every single ridiculous suggestion. Most people on here seem willing to cast just any ole dude as Superman. "Who's that guy?" "I dunno, might as well give him a shot at Superman though."

After SR, this is Superman's big shot for a while. If people don't take to him like they've taken to Batman, we probably won't get another Superman franchise until they're rebooting Flash and Aquaman.

[Midnight Black]

I used his real body for this since so many people complain about just switching heads.. But here we go. It is a quick one.
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He has an ok look but can he pull off the role of a lifetime? This is a role that if you mess it up you will be known as the man that killed the Superman franchise.

Role of a lifetime?? Superman Returns sucked. Yes, sucked, like Xmen Wolverine level of sucking, but less entertaining, and I don't think Routh is known as the guy who killed the franchise. Singer maybe, but not Routh.

If you look at the screen test of C. Reeve, he was skinny and really didn't appeal to some of the producers, and staff that he could embody Superman. After bulking up a lil and the right hairdo he eventually became the best Superman ever.

I think Walsh is a good choice, definitely a contender.

That is why I get a kick out of all the posters who say "they NEED to cast so and So", or "JUST cast so and so".

They are SURE that their own beloved actor is 100% perfect for the role, they will rant and rave about him.http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6119/emt2willynilly.gif

Where I take issue with that, is they seem to forget the actor should have to pass a screen test for the role before being cast.

As much as I like Joe Manganiello, I think it would be absurd for him not to have to audition for the role. Same thing goes for Armie Hammer and all other suggestions.

Hey, everyone has their vision of Superman. God bless them!

[Sub-Zero]

kinda surprised that there's so much love for walsh. imdb is really the only site that has a bio on the guy, and it says he's canadian. where's all this "he's american" coming from? he's got an interesting look for superman, but his acting is only slightly better than the last two guys who've played clark kent.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I don't really get it myself. Walsh is like a less Superman-ly Michael Trucco.

[Midnight Black]

Acting for Superman/Clark kent is relative. Was Bale a superb actor in the Nolan films. NO, he wasn't. He was a GOOD actor in the films, because that's what they called for.

Was routh a good actor in the films.....that's debateable. First, Singer sucks b**ls and ruined it anyway, so I wasn't expecting a whole lot from Routh anyway. Routh did an ok job as Kent, and I could somewhat stomach his Superman.......okay I couldn't. He was terrible. But with better training and more acting and practice Routh has become better. He was pretty good on Chuck the times I saw him.

I don't care for some award winning actor, I just need someone who can portray the part. No oscar winner, but no B-movie actor as well.

[Strider14]

Acting for Superman/Clark kent is relative. Was Bale a superb actor in the Nolan films. NO, he wasn't. He was a GOOD actor in the films, because that's what they called for.

Was routh a good actor in the films.....that's debateable. First, Singer sucks b**ls and ruined it anyway, so I wasn't expecting a whole lot from Routh anyway. Routh did an ok job as Kent, and I could somewhat stomach his Superman.......okay I couldn't. He was terrible. But with better training and more acting and practice Routh has become better. He was pretty good on Chuck the times I saw him.

I don't care for some award winning actor, I just need someone who can portray the part. No oscar winner, but no B-movie actor as well.

For the longest time I defended Routh's performance in SR as being the writer' and director's fault. After watching all of Chuck and his work since, I have realized the guy is just a blah actor. He shows little or no range of emotion in any of his roles. Just doesn't move me.

[Karelia]

I actually think Welling proved he can act, or at least as a villain in last night's episode of Smallville, "Luthor." I've seen quite a few posts that were surprised by Welling's performance as Ultraman, including me. :D

[MAN O STEEL]

I don't really get it myself. Walsh is like a less Superman-ly Michael Trucco.


Less Superman looking?. lol. Dude there's no one ever suggested on this board who's less Superman looking than Michael Trucco. The guy has a weak jawline & it's not even square. Plus he has these weird squinty eyes that are to close together & a pointy chin, not in any way reminiscent of Superman's square chin. You guys say you want a fairly comic accurate Superman but then pick goobs like Trucco. Walsh does look like Trucco but WITH the stronger features that Trucco is missing. Plus Trucco is like almost 41 & looks it.




Steve

[jesusmagicka]

Less Superman looking?. lol. Dude there's no one ever suggested on this board who's less Superman looking than Michael Trucco. The guy has a weak jawline & it's not even square. Plus he has these weird squinty eyes that are to close together & a pointy chin, not in any way reminiscent of Superman's square chin. You guys say you want a fairly comic accurate Superman but then pick goobs like Trucco. Walsh does look like Trucco but WITH the stronger features that Trucco is missing. Plus Trucco is like almost 41 & looks it.




Steve

true dat, *****h

[That-Guy]

For me, Walsh is the reverse Armie Hammer.

I couldn't see Hammer as Superman AT ALL until I actually saw him act. In pictures, it doesn't come across, but I think that on film, it really does. He comes off like a guy who could throw you through a wall.

In photos, I think Walsh really has the Superman look. However, from what I've seen of his acting, I wasn't impressed and on camera, he didn't look like Superman at all to me because I just kept staring at his caterpillar eyebrows. They looked like they were in 3D or something.

[BH/HHH]

I'd be fine with Walsh

[Red Cherry Lips]

you know what, he might actually be perfect. Ben Barnes is a great actor, great charisma on screen. Just watch Dorian Gray, he takes away the scenes from Colin Firth with ease.

He is tall enough too. I actually think he is a better actor than Cavill, all he would need to do is beef up his physique, and he would be perfect.

Here's Ben at the red carpet premiere of "The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader" in London.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/Ben%20Barnes/VotDT%2009/HQLondonworldprem30Nov10pic012.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/Ben%20Barnes/VotDT%2009/HQLondonworldprem30Nov10pic018.jpg

[Astrodust]

I can't tell if this is a joke or not. ^

[FooYu]

seriously walsh and this ben guy are not my personal preference for the role. Walsh looks nothing like the Superman I imagine and this Ben guy looks like a 22 year old nerd, he's got the height and thats it.

I'd say give Tom Welling a chance, I liked it when he first found the suit i the series :yay:

[Gianakin_]

Barnes is a terrbile actor, he was laughable in Dorian Gray. Hell no to him.

[Vengeance of Bane]

Some peolpe are just to caught up with the look of certain actors, instead of fousing on their talent.

[AntMan]

How many really good actors do we know that look like Superman? I can't think of many. If you're expecting Snyder to choose acting skill over looks you got another thing coming. This guy is all about visuals.

[Gianakin_]

From what I've seen, he's all about the balance between visuals and acting. So, yeah, he should also look for talent. The fact that anyone should point that out to or for a drector is ridiculous. And there are actors who look like Supes. We just don't know every white actor on earth.

[SuperMike335!!]

Some peolpe are just to caught up with the look of certain actors, instead of fousing on their talent.

Well, both are equally important.

They can find someone who looks right AND can act.

So far as what is being suggested on this thread, unless someone has shown themselves to suck at acting, then I still then giving a guy a screen test is a good idea - even if his acting skill is unknown, as obviously Snyder would find out there if he had any tallent or not.

There are some "good actors" who cannot pull off every type of role either. Obviously go with the guy who can best play the roles of Superman and Clark.

Before even screen testing anyone, they should already have a wide field of guys who have the look. Then narrow it down from there with screen tests to find out who has the right tallent out of that group, then test them again for the very best.

Nobody here wants a guy who does not look like Superman, and nobody here wants an actor who cannot play the roles.

[I Am The Knight]

Helll Nawww to Ben Barnes.

[JAK®]

How many really good actors do we know that look like Superman? I can't think of many. If you're expecting Snyder to choose acting skill over looks you got another thing coming. This guy is all about visuals.
Considering the excellent performances the actors gave in Watchmen, no, Snyder isn't "all about visuals".

His films are pretty, but don't let that distract you from the meatier aspects of his films.

[ALP]

^Thank you. Snyder finds the perfect median between the actors who look the part and the actors who act the part.

Jackie Earle for example. Looked exactly like Walter in the film and gave a brilliant performance.

One of the many reasons why I trust in Snyder 100%.

[DCnightwing23]

If you want a candidate that has the visual look and presence of clark kent/ superman along with the acting chops and believability to wow everyone then i say Henry Cavill, he's been my top choice so far.

[BH/HHH]

God I hope we here something about casting soon, I have a feeling we won't find out until next year.

[Polux]

^Thank you. Snyder finds the perfect median between the actors who look the part and the actors who act the part.

Jackie Earle for example. Looked exactly like Walter in the film and gave a brilliant performance.

One of the many reasons why I trust in Snyder 100%.

I suppose I´m the only one who totally hated his performance...

Oh, well...

Polux.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

^Thank you. Snyder finds the perfect median between the actors who look the part and the actors who act the part.

Jackie Earle for example. Looked exactly like Walter in the film and gave a brilliant performance.

One of the many reasons why I trust in Snyder 100%.

If you want a candidate that has the visual look and presence of clark kent/ superman along with the acting chops and believability to wow everyone then i say Henry Cavill, he's been my top choice so far.

Agreed on both. Cavill is definitely the best balance to me.

[I Am The Knight]

I suppose I´m the only one who totally hated his performance...

Oh, well...

Polux.

Yes you are, my lad...

[Sub-Zero]

cavill is the best option imo. the thing that sold me on him is his chin. that's superman's chin. if he doesn't get it he'll either be the next batman or the next bond(in like 5-10 yrs).

[Sub-Zero]

edit: double post

[AntMan]

For all we know, Snyder could cast a guy none of have ever heard of, that's like Superman come to life on screen. I just think it's going to be someone like Joe M or Walsh, a decent actor with a great look. Besiides Haley in Watchmen, I can't think of a great performance in a Snyder film, but maybe that will change with this film. I'm not a Snyder hater btw, I own all his films and like them, but I just think he's more about visual style than anything else.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, I can really see Snyder going with Joe M. Even though my top choice is Cavill, I'd be fine with that.

Hmm... besides, if Manganiello gets Superman, that'll leave Cavill free to play Richard Rahl. :word:

[Sub-Zero]

i don't really get the joe m love. he looks nothing like superman aside from being built and tall. if those qualifications alone were ok for everyone then the rock(dwayne johnson) would play superman. joe has range, but not the look. i think it's pretty funny when people mention how snyder is ONLY about visuals, and they think snyder's superman pick is joe m.

[That-Guy]

Here's Ben at the red carpet premiere of "The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader" in London.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/Ben%20Barnes/VotDT%2009/HQLondonworldprem30Nov10pic012.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/Ben%20Barnes/VotDT%2009/HQLondonworldprem30Nov10pic018.jpg

Superman? Nope.

Link in a Legend of Zelda movie? Absolutely.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I don't think Joe looks as good as Cavill, but he'd be a powerful, manly warrior Superman. He looks much better than half the actors people keep suggesting, to me anyway.

[GreenKToo]

If they ever want to make a bio pic about prince charles, then bens the guy.

[Alonsovich]

Well, both are equally important.

They can find someone who looks right AND can act.

So far as what is being suggested on this thread, unless someone has shown themselves to suck at acting, then I still then giving a guy a screen test is a good idea - even if his acting skill is unknown, as obviously Snyder would find out there if he had any tallent or not.

There are some "good actors" who cannot pull off every type of role either. Obviously go with the guy who can best play the roles of Superman and Clark.

Before even screen testing anyone, they should already have a wide field of guys who have the look. Then narrow it down from there with screen tests to find out who has the right tallent out of that group, then test them again for the very best.

Nobody here wants a guy who does not look like Superman, and nobody here wants an actor who cannot play the roles.

The key thing here is who is going to be casting director. People sometimes forget that that's the person who filters to the director who are the best suited for a screentest in his opinion. It doesn't depend entirely on Snyder or Nolan. Hemsworth's Thor reading tape got actually rejected twice before it even arrived to Branagh, and only then he got a full screentest. A full screentest is very expensive, people... and it makes sense for them to filter to minimize economical costs. They may be searching for an unknown... but the unknowns they're going to get screentested are possibly already under contract by a high profile agency.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Is this supposed to be a Superman casting thread?


Why are there pictures of Ben Barnes :dry:... What the hell

[SuperMike335!!]

The key thing here is who is going to be casting director. People sometimes forget that that's the person who filters to the director who are the best suited for a screentest in his opinion. It doesn't depend entirely on Snyder or Nolan. Hemsworth's Thor reading tape got actually rejected twice before it even arrived to Branagh, and only then he got a full screentest. A full screentest is very expensive, people... and it makes sense for them to filter to minimize economical costs. They may be searching for an unknown... but the unknowns they're going to get screentested are possibly already under contract by a high profile agency.

That is a good point.

Either way then, they are looking for specific criteria, and I don't see them just casting anyone because of a bunch of fan support.

That may only get them to a reading, and if they then did well enough make it to that more expensive full screen test.

I wonder if this process has been underway for a while now?

[Astrodust]

Did I miss something or are we allowed to mention Cavill in this thread again? If so great. Anyways when it comes to casting there are really only a few great choices when you consider it must be a good balance of acting and looks. Even then you really don't know until they put on the suit but it is an easier sell when they are great actors. I'd imagine we only have to wait a couple more months before something is announced. I'm hoping for a short list soon.

[Astrodust]

Is this supposed to be a Superman casting thread?


Why are there pictures of Ben Barnes :dry:... What the hell

I think people have run out of ideas.

[I Am The Knight]

Did I miss something or are we allowed to mention Cavill in this thread again? If so great.

Yeah, we are allowed to mention Cavill, Routh, Welling, Cage, etc.

[MAN O STEEL]

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Steve

[Project862006]

did you mean to hit the Spiderman thread?

[Octoberist]

I love James Franco but no, he's not a fit for Superman.

[Showtime]

James Franco can't play Superman, he is going to be filming "Nights In Rodanthe 2" and "Eat, Pray, Love 2: Love Harder"

[I Am The Knight]

James Franco? I love the guy, but come on, he can't be Superman...

[Asgard]

James Franco should play Inigo Montoya in the eventual The Princess Bride remake.

[Sub-Zero]

there were parts of superman:earth one where superman looked like franco. i can kinda see him as blue beetle(kord).

[That-Guy]

Franco is a fantastic actor (if you haven't seen 127 Hours yet, you NEED to) but he's wrong for Superman.

[Karelia]

They need to cast somebody soon.... :dry:

[al35077]

They need to cast somebody soon.... :dry:

Yeah.........What he said ^^

[XxDelta09xX]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x41/cgm100/hwsupes.jpg

Really quick one of Harmon Walsh as Superman, just to see how he pulls off the look, enjoy.

My top three choices now are

1.Henry Cavill
2.Harmon Walsh
3.Joe M.

[That-Guy]

Hmmm... just saw a different demo reel than the one I had seen before of Walsh. I thought he was actually pretty good and it showed his versatility. Half of it was scenes from Gossip Girl where he played a pretentious stage director and the other half was from some show where he played a soldier. Very different characterization in both and I definitely saw the Superman look in him. His voice isn't as deep and booming as Hammer's but he might be able to make it sound a bit stronger with practice. Also, for those of you who are hoping Caveizel plays Jor-El, Walsh does look like he could be his son.

[JAK®]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/superman_hammer.jpg

Hammer is still a solid choice for me.

[Lobo]

Hammer is still my favorite for the role. Though, there are about 5-6 actors I'd be happy with.

As for Harmon Walsh, he looks too much like Bale IMO

[That-Guy]

There is a strong Bale resemblence, I'll certainly give you that. Though if they give him a Superman hairdo, dyed black, and bulk him up to about twice the size Bale was in TDK (and most likely will be in TDKR) he might look less Balesque.

[AntMan]

That-Guy I love your sig.

[That-Guy]

That-Guy I love your sig.

Awesome, thanks! Great win last night. Tough game to watch though. I hope Miller and Adams are okay.

[AntMan]

Thank the lawd for that sack-fumble! Anyway, glad to see you're warming up to Walsh.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Theres definitely some Bale there, but its not necessarily a bad thing.

He has a commanding look.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6056/headshotv2.jpg http://img692.yfrog.com/img692/429/24564040.jpg
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[ChickenScratch]

Thank the lawd for that sack-fumble! Anyway, glad to see you're warming up to Walsh.

Dude, Troy came in like a beast on Flacco! I was freaking out thinking the Steelers would loose, then freaking out at how clutch that was.

[Tra-El]

Awesome, thanks! Great win last night. Tough game to watch though. I hope Miller and Adams are okay.

Nice to see some Stiller lovin! I'm a diehard myself and what a game. Chalk up yet ANOTHER physical and vicious check next to the Steelers/Ravens rivarly. Ben might be the toughest S.O.B in the league! Shrugging off one of THEE most fierce defenders in the NFL with ease and getting it done with his nose off his face and torn ligaments in his foot. We are going for home field! Here we go!

As for Supes, I still think Jon Hamm is the perfect choice right now but am accepting the fact he may be atleast 4-5 years too old for the role, which is a shame because Hamm would be a perfect Kal-EL.

[Strider14]

James Franco should play Inigo Montoya in the eventual The Princess Bride remake.

Bite your tongue! That's sacrilege to even suggest remaking The Princess Bride :twisted:

I am hoping for a true unknown for the part, like Walsh or Conway (not necessarily one of the two). The only "known" I would be okay with right now would probably be Joe.

[That-Guy]

Haha, good to see some Steeler love on this page. I think that's one of the reasons one of the Superman candidates I support is Joe M... he's from the 'Burgh!

[Superman_20]

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6373/cwsiiearlydonnerfortres.jpg



best manip posted in the manip thread

[--Zero-Ethic--]

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best manip posted in the manip thread

The one with the hack-job on the left of the body that makes it look like a kid cut it out with scissors? lol
C'mon, theres loooooads of fantastic manips throughout these pages that are jaw-dropping pieces of work
Calling this the best cheapens the awesome pics people have thrown on here.

[Midnight Black]

From the pics of Walsh...I have to say he makes a better looking supes than Cavill.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Decidedly more mum this time.

Joe Manganiello on Superman rumours

True Blood star Joe Manganiello has said he'd be 'honoured' to play Superman in the Zack Snyder reboot.

The actor, who is rumoured to be a frontrunner in the search for a new Clark Kent, was full of praise for the filmmaker.

"He's an unbelievable director, I'm a huge fan of 300," Joe said.

He added that the casting decision "would be up to them - but I'd be honoured."

The 33-year-old hit the red carpet for a party recognising The Trevor Project, which focuses on suicide prevention for gay young people in the States.

"I'm here tonight to help raise awareness because a lot of people don't realise that the suicide attempt rate for gay and bisexual teens is four times that of heterosexual teens," he explained.

The actor recently got engaged to his model and actress girlfriend Audra Marie - but was keeping tight lipped about when he'd be walking down the isle.

"Well, we're actually just enjoying being engaged right now," he said.

He added: "We got engaged in Italy, it was very romantic and we're just loving being engaged."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gc8haBZVy8MEEpwY729_CJVtY6vQ?docId=N04587112 91630236379A

[Superman2007]

Decidedly more mum this time.



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gc8haBZVy8MEEpwY729_CJVtY6vQ?docId=N04587112 91630236379A

They might have said "no", or his agent told him that you don't win roles by publicly campaigning for, or actively blabbing about how much you want it to every person with an ear.

[Midnight Black]

Decidedly more mum this time.



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gc8haBZVy8MEEpwY729_CJVtY6vQ?docId=N04587112 91630236379A

If this guy plays Superman then Christina Aguillera should be Wonder Woman. This guy looks nothing like Supes.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Not directly Superman related, but I had a thought the other day... what about Chloe Moretz for Supergirl? They probably wouldn't start thinking about it until 2014 or so, after Superman himself is well established... she'd be just the right age by then.

[Superman_20]

The one with the hack-job on the left of the body that makes it look like a kid cut it out with scissors? lol
C'mon, theres loooooads of fantastic manips throughout these pages that are jaw-dropping pieces of work
Calling this the best cheapens the awesome pics people have thrown on here.

not the best as in the best done, the most convincing for an actor is what i meant

[Excelsior.]

Not directly Superman related, but I had a thought the other day... what about Chloe Moretz for Supergirl? They probably wouldn't start thinking about it until 2014 or so, after Superman himself is well established... she'd be just the right age by then.
Only if she isn't a cocaine snorting mess by then.

[NEXUS 6]

I'm [mostly] all for Cavill.

But what about newcomer Luke Evans. He was edited out of Clash of the Titans, but is supposed to be very good in Tamara Drewe. Anyway, i think he'd be pretty good, if his acting's as up to snuff as its supposed to be.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/99869280.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F55F7BAF7EB348A368 FED54B9CE7832C9C772ACC7422BB4320E30A760B0D811297

[Astrodust]

Not directly Superman related, but I had a thought the other day... what about Chloe Moretz for Supergirl? They probably wouldn't start thinking about it until 2014 or so, after Superman himself is well established... she'd be just the right age by then.

I loved Chloe in Kick-Ass but..what the hell are you talking about. The perfect Supergirl really was Helen Slater. If they could somehow transport her through time I would be happy. Any hot blonde could probably play Supergirl though.

[AntMan]

Luke Evans looks like a strange combo of Heath Ledger and Jude Law. He has the wrong look for Superman IMO. Might make a good Zod though.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I loved Chloe in Kick-Ass but..what the hell are you talking about. The perfect Supergirl really was Helen Slater. If they could somehow transport her through time I would be happy. Any hot blonde could probably play Supergirl though.

Yeah, since everyone's talking about resurrecting Reeve. :doh:

I'm talking about a NEW Supergirl, in case that is too hard to understand.

[Astrodust]

Yeah, since everyone's talking about resurrecting Reeve. :doh:

I'm talking about a NEW Supergirl, in case that is too hard to understand.

Except she is still a child. Not every kid blooms into a Supergirl.

[Man of Steel]

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Routh for Superman.

[AntMan]

Nothing against Routh as an actor, but everytime I see him I think of Superman Returns. I don't like to think about Superman Returns, it makes me a sad panda....

[Astrodust]

http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/16896/Justice%20League%20Supeman.png

Routh for Superman.

I lol'd at this.

[SuperMike335!!]

I lol'd at this.

Then You're gonna love this.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4271/project6small.jpg

[That-Guy]

Lmao

[Man of Tomorrow]

Mark Millar (Kickass, Superman:Red Son) on Brandon Routh:

@AdamIngleby Brandon Routh is a really good actor tho. He's fantastic in Scott Pilgrim. His comic timing is really great too.

@AdamIngleby Brandon Routh was brilliant, esp his Clark Kent after terrible TV guys for 2 decades. But a reboot would mean a new guy, sadly.

http://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/stat...42260472774656 (http://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/status/12142260472774656)#

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I think the new guy being an unknown again is the only way to win everyone over at this point.

[darkzombiemutt]

lol, Brandon didn't bring any magic to Clark Kent, Cain and Welling's version were far more interesting to watch. I don't know if that's Brandon's fault or not, could just be that the movie itself fell flat. What he's seeing in Brandon's portrayal that I'm not seeing is beyond me.

[Karelia]

Marc Guggenheim discusses cut Superman Cameo

The co-writer of the movie (http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=26121#) (Green Lantern) discusses potential easter eggs and also explains why the Superman (http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=26121#) cameo was cut, revealing that Smallville's Tom Welling (http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=26121#) is more than welcome to come along and film that scene if he has time...

On What He Thinks Of The Actors' Performaces In The Movie:
"Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively are so good together it is ridiculous. Peter Sarsgaard is unbelievable. People are going to draw comparisons in his performance to Heath Ledger in 'The Dark Knight.' It is just that good. Mark Strong is ridiculously great. The cast is amazing. The look of the movie is unlike anything you’ve ever seen — and it needs to be. That’s what the concept requires. I think it’s going to be really spectacular."On Why The Superman Cameo Was Cut From The Script Before Filming:
"Without trying very hard, you could probably find the leaked script on the internet. The Superman cameo is in the leaked script. It survived several drafts. Ultimately, it was cut for budgetary reasons. We took it out in one of our later drafts. After my interview with you, of course. The Clark Kent cameo is still near and dear to my heart. I really wanted it to be in the movie. You never know — it can still happen. If Tom Welling has a free hour or two, you never know."On Other Easter Eggs And Green Lanter Corps Cameos:
I think there will be plenty of Easter Eggs in the movie on other fronts. I’m a sucker for those. I’m the voice for those. I’m always thinking we can fit in that name or we can fit in that character. I’ll always do that. I can pretty much promise that Ch'p will not be in the movie. Martin’s favorite Lantern, who is in the movie, is Bzzd. The funny thing is, from our very first meeting with Martin, he came onto the project and really knew his stuff. He was able to quote Lanterns and said 'I love Bzzd' from the start. I was like, 'Okay, I guess Bzzd is in the movie.'"

[Midnight Black]

That would be a nice cameo perhaps see him as Kent doing a reporting job, or fighting some bad guy on earth and then looking up to the stars watching GL go into space. :woot:

[Karelia]

That would be a nice cameo perhaps see him as Kent doing a reporting job, or fighting some bad guy on earth and then looking up to the stars watching GL go into space. :woot:
Cool idea. :woot: I think a Barry Allen cameo could work well too.

[Midnight Black]

Cool idea. :woot: I think a Barry Allen cameo could work well too.

Exactly, instead of waiting 3-4 years to do a JL movie after introducing all of the characters like Marvel is doing for Avengers, basically, I say start introducing characters in more prominent characters' movies, at the very least in cameos.

[gdw]

lol, Brandon didn't bring any magic to Clark Kent, Cain and Welling's version were far more interesting to watch. I don't know if that's Brandon's fault or not, could just be that the movie itself fell flat. What he's seeing in Brandon's portrayal that I'm not seeing is beyond me.

I'd say his CK was good, but mainly because it worked with his quite under spoken nature/being not too comfortable. The problem was he still had some of that while playing Superman.

But his Clark, I would say, is FAR better than Welling's.

[Sub-Zero]

they could actually still do the cameo in gl without an actor. just have the ring fly across a desk with a name plate that says "clark kent." and maybe the chair at the desk could be spinning like he just changed into superman.

[ALP]

lol, Brandon didn't bring any magic to Clark Kent, Cain and Welling's version were far more interesting to watch. I don't know if that's Brandon's fault or not, could just be that the movie itself fell flat. What he's seeing in Brandon's portrayal that I'm not seeing is beyond me.

Poor Routh. I feel he is the Val Kilmer of the Superman world. Did a decent if not good job but only got to do one film and doesn't really get much recognition because of that. I liked Kilmer but his name barely comes up with general discussion. Instead it's usually Keaton and Bale. Routh will get the same treatment... he will be lost in between Reeve and the new actor.

[Frodo]

I think Routh is a nice guy and a good sport but it'd be hard to argue his Clark was better the Welling or Cain's. Now to be fair , Welling has had 10 years to grow into the role Clark Kent and Cain had at least 4, along with the fact that the had a weekly show that let them grow on the public. Routh had one shot with a spotty script that tried to make him Chris Reeve's Superman.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'd say his CK was good, but mainly because it worked with his quite under spoken nature/being not too comfortable. The problem was he still had some of that while playing Superman.

But his Clark, I would say, is FAR better than Welling's.


I think Mark Millar likes the fact that BR played Daily Planet Clark and Superman as different. DP Clark was an invented exaggerated persona to conceal the Superman thing.


I'm sure Snyderman will do something similar. There's no way they can go the Dean Cain route and play CK and Superman exactly the same.

[ALP]

I think Mark Millar likes the fact that BR played Daily Planet Clark and Superman as different. DP Clark was an invented exaggerated persona to conceal the Superman thing.


I'm sure Snyderman will do something similar. There's no way they can go the Dean Cain route and play CK and Superman exactly the same.

I hope not. Clark of the Daily Planet can just be a normal plain guy. Basically the 'invisible guy' that everyone overlooks. Absolutely no need whatsoever to make him into an exaggerated bumbling fool.

[darkzombiemutt]

Yeah, i wouldn't say he did a bad job, it's just that there was nothing memorable about his Clark, it was boring to watch. The best part of the Reeve version of Clark is that he chewed up the scenes and it was entertaining. The SR Clark felt like background dressing, and background dressing doesn't make a scene interesting. They should have given his Clark something interesting to do, instead of just seeing how the world changed while he was gone and seeming disappointed in it all.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I liked Routh's Clark, mainly because he was just a nice guy that most people would ignore or push around. This time around though, I don't want the clumsy, bumbling Clark. Maybe not the Superman-in-a-suit Clark from the old cartoons, but more of a competent reporter, maybe quiet and slightly awkward.

[darkzombiemutt]

Instead of going the bumbling route, they could always do something like make him more like a Niles Crane from Fraiser. Make him an uptight germaphobe. Kinda like his kid in Superman Returns seemed to be doing.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

No, I don't want Clark annoying and prissy.

[JAK®]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent, just a bit shy and awkward, but mostly unnoticeable. Reeve's Kent was fun but he brought far too much attention on himself.

[Changeling]

Superman: Armie Hammer or Jake Gyllenhaal
Lois Lane: Natalie Portman
Lex Luthor: Leonardo DiCaprio
Brainiac: Zachary Quinto
Perry White: Bruce Greenwood

[DCnightwing23]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent? Maybe thats because he hardly had any lines both as clark and superman, and how he delivered those lines he had was average at best.

[Denny67]

Singer wanted to carry on with the Richard Donner vision of Superman. Using that as his approach Brandon Routh playing the character made a lot of sense. He had a lot of the same qualities, physical features and emulated many of his mannerisms very well.

That said, if that is not the vision for a new Superman film using Brandon Routh is not the cut and dry, or slam dunk casting cal that some are suggesting. If Snyder’s vision is completely different (which I think it will be) casting Routh could actually be counterproductive. IMO the BR/SM ship has sailed.

Still I am hoping he will get a shot at another character down the road. I mean is Chris evens got both Human torch and Cap… maybe Routh can be re-cast as well.

[Superark]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent, just a bit shy and awkward, but mostly unnoticeable. Reeve's Kent was fun but he brought far too much attention on himself.


Agreed

[I Am The Knight]

^^Dude, love the avvy.

[Poopyman]

They should just cast Chris Rock to play Clark Kent and Lou Ferrigno as Superman. Then NOBODY would ever know!

[That-Guy]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent? Maybe thats because he hardly had any lines both as clark and superman, and how he delivered those lines he had was average at best.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only one here who noticed this.

It seems like people here want another movie where Superman/Clark Kent is a background character again.

[JAK®]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent? Maybe thats because he hardly had any lines both as clark and superman, and how he delivered those lines he had was average at best.
It was his mannerisms as Clark Kent that I enjoyed. He really came across as a quiet, shy guy. As for his acting as Superman, he was mostly imitating Reeve's lines, but from seeing the movie, we all know who was responsible for that.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I hope not. Clark of the Daily Planet can just be a normal plain guy. Basically the 'invisible guy' that everyone overlooks. Absolutely no need whatsoever to make him into an exaggerated bumbling fool.

Routh's exaggerated CK was the invisible guy everyone overlooked.

Reeve played the bumbling fool version, relying on slapstick.

Singer made it different, feeling that the Reeve take wouldn't have worked in a non 70s context.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Regardless, it's good to hear the Nolan/Goyer script will also give the 'real' Clark Kent some focus too.

The freelance journalist in Africa is clearly the real CK. He only adapts the exaggerated CK ersona for the DP when he becomes Superman.

Superman Returns unfortunately cut most of it's farm scenes and gave us only 1 scene with the real Clark Kent.

I liked the difference between the three:

Real CK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usXuL9-uFJw

Exaggerated CK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eENUTx1xxM8

Superman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JV8OtM8vrM

[Midnight Black]

Poor Routh. I feel he is the Val Kilmer of the Superman world. Did a decent if not good job but only got to do one film and doesn't really get much recognition because of that. I liked Kilmer but his name barely comes up with general discussion. Instead it's usually Keaton and Bale. Routh will get the same treatment... he will be lost in between Reeve and the new actor.

Um Val Kilmer was terrible and I'll tell you why. He was too serious, no pun intended). His Bruce Wayne and Batman were too identical, he never showed a difference in the portrayal. Plus he was too dry, artificial, and robotic. "I am Batman, beep-boop-bop-boop!" If they could've mixed his Batman with George Clooney's Bruce Wayne, then we would've gotten one of the best performances for Bruce/Bats. Alas, after Keaton we got Kilmer as Keaton's Batman and Clooney as Keaton's Wayne. Just Terrible.

Superman: Armie Hammer or Jake Gyllenhaal
Lois Lane: Natalie Portman
Lex Luthor: Leonardo DiCaprio
Brainiac: Zachary Quinto
Perry White: Bruce Greenwood

Are you serious??? Where did you get your crack and can you please share.

Oh and Routh in SR had as bout as many lines as Jimmy Olsen. Whoever said Routh's Kent was good is delusional. I mean how can you tell. He didn't do anything and practically said nothing, neither did his Superman.

[Gianakin_]

Um Val Kilmer was terrible and I'll tell you why. He was too serious, no pun intended). His Bruce Wayne and Batman were too identical, he never showed a difference in the portrayal. Plus he was too dry, artificial, and robotic. "I am Batman, beep-boop-bop-boop!" If they could've mixed his Batman with George Clooney's Bruce Wayne, then we would've gotten one of the best performances for Bruce/Bats. Alas, after Keaton we got Kilmer as Keaton's Batman and Clooney as Keaton's Wayne. Just Terrible.

I agree that Bruce was written and directed blandly, but Kilmer did good with the material he had. He was very suave and charismatic. Agreed with your Clooney/Wayne and Kilmer/Bats view.

Are you serious??? Where did you get your crack and can you please share.

Dude, relax with the attitude. Preferences are preferences.

Oh and Routh in SR had as bout as many lines as Jimmy Olsen. Whoever said Routh's Kent was good is delusional. I mean how can you tell. He didn't do anything and practically said nothing, neither did his Superman.

Again, opinions are opinions. Well, you don't need many lines to show or portray or convey emotions. That's the beauty of cinema and what it's allowed actors to do. Routh had mannerisms that showed a socially awkward Clark, but not a caricature, like Reeve. His role being minimal is a sin, I must say, but again (like Kilmer) he did good with the material he had.

[Midnight Black]

I was just joking with the crack line, no attitude lol.

As for doing the best with the material given. I can understand that and I see where you are coming from. However, there's a difference in conveying emotions and mannerisms minus the lack of dialogue when a scene comes from it, as opposed to intentionally not writing dialogue for a character and giving others around him a bunch of dialogue (or monologues for that matter) just to make the scene/overall movie good. That's a Hollywood tricks writers/directors do when someone's acting isn't up to par, but they look good on screen or carry a significant fan base/audience with them. It's been done plenty of times before. I think the writers and Singer weren't confident in Routh as much as they could've been or they just were high off of nyquil when they wrote the script.

Either way with a good script I think Routh could do good as another superman. I don't blame him, I blame Singer.

[Gianakin_]

But do you think that's the case with Burton's Batman?

[Midnight Black]

But do you think that's the case with Burton's Batman?

No, because that is Batman if you think about it. He talks when needed and speaks more with his emotions and mannerisms, unlike Clark/Supes. In contrast Clark/Supes does the talking, is in the spotlight, Speaks to the crowds, is the boy scout.

Keaton's Wayne/Bats had dialogue as much as any character in the film, except Nicholson/Joker. He was a secretive yet charming Wayne and dark Bats. Perfect, IMO.

[Gianakin_]

No, because that is Batman if you think about it. He talks when needed and speaks more with his emotions and mannerisms, unlike Clark/Supes. In contrast Clark/Supes does the talking, is in the spotlight, Speaks to the crowds, is the boy scout.

Keaton's Wayne/Bats had dialogue as much as any character in the film, except Nicholson/Joker. He was a secretive yet charming Wayne and dark Bats. Perfect, IMO.

Keaton Bats had almost no dialogue in the film and, while I agree about Superman, I disagree about Clark (being in the spotlight I mean). To me, Wayne and Superman should talk a lot, while Kent and Batman shouldn't. Not that I want a socially impaired Kent, of course. Just a guy who looks normal, albeit a bit geeky/boring/uninteresting.

[Midnight Black]

Plus, Keaton was already established as a leading funny and dramatic acting man, whereas Routh was not. Keaton's performance by speaking less, unlike Keaton's other films, was necessary to distinguish him from his previous roles. I think Burton had more confidence in Keaton's abilities.

No one really knew of Routh and his capabilities, so this could have been a great platform for him to show them off, or at the very least present himself as potentially strong leading man.

[Gianakin_]

Plus, Keaton was already established as a leading funny and dramatic acting man, whereas Routh was not. Keaton's performance by speaking less, unlike Keaton's other films, was necessary to distinguish him from his previous roles. I think Burton had more confidence in Keaton's abilities.

No one really knew of Routh and his capabilities, so this could have been a great platform for him to show them off, or at the very least present himself as potentially strong leading man.

That's the thing I wanted to address. I can't prove or disprove the confidence in Routh's abilities by Singer, but I have trouble believing that's why they wrote Clark and Superman the way they did.

[C. Lee]

Keaton Bats had almost no dialogue in the film and, while I agree about Superman, I disagree about Clark (being in the spotlight I mean). To me, Wayne and Superman should talk a lot, while Kent and Batman shouldn't. Not that I want a socially impaired Kent, of course. Just a guy who looks normal, albeit a bit geeky/boring/uninteresting.

But Kent is a reporter...he has to be able to talk to people and form coherant questions to ask people.

[Gianakin_]

But Kent is a reporter...he has to be able to talk to people and form coherant questions to ask people.

Yes, of course. All I'm saying is that I don't mind him not being a bumbling guy.

[Midnight Black]

Keaton Bats had almost no dialogue in the film and, while I agree about Superman, I disagree about Clark (being in the spotlight I mean). To me, Wayne and Superman should talk a lot, while Kent and Batman shouldn't. Not that I want a socially impaired Kent, of course. Just a guy who looks normal, albeit a bit geeky/boring/uninteresting.

Keaton's Batman spoke where/when appropriate. Plus each line he had had impact as Batman,as seen in his dialogue with Vale and Joker. Also, the film was dark anyway and meant to be dark, so a talkative Bats wouldn't have fit. Probably another reason for the lack of dialogue was so they could distance themselves from West's incarnation in the 60-70s, which Michael Uslan had a hard enough time trying to sell WB on the idea to begin with.

I agree that Superman should talk a lot, and somewhat Wayne, but not so much. However, I think Clark talking a lot is a good idea for a couple of reasons. 1. It shows that the "real" Clark is still trying to make that connection to humanity and interact and function in society even under disguise. 2) I like to see Clark and his personality outside of Superman, even if it is a disguise. Seeing Clark as a Journalist, son, cousin, love interest and suitor for Lois is interesting, and something you don't get with Bruce/Bats. Girls chase Bruce, Clark chases girls.

I would like to see Clark not hide in the corner, but be a normal guy who functions like any other. IMO the cowardly guy who is too timid to do anything is getting old. Reeves did a spot on job with it, but it's time to move on. Plus in Superman 2 where he gives up his powers, that brief time where his no longer Superman or the bumbling Clark is great!

[Midnight Black]

That's the thing I wanted to address. I can't prove or disprove the confidence in Routh's abilities by Singer, but I have trouble believing that's why they wrote Clark and Superman the way they did.

I see what you mean. Yeah I can't prove it or disprove it either, but other than just deciding to write the script the way they did I don't understand why they would neglect to give him more lines.

Yes, of course. All I'm saying is that I don't mind him not being a bumbling guy.

Agreed. I'm over the bumbling phobic guy routine as well. I would like to see an average confident guy, but one whom is more concerned with work over anything else. I mean there has to be a reason why people don't suspect he is Superman, seeing how he is never around when Supes is.

[GreenKToo]

I want to see this clark actually go after a story and beat out Lois. I think it would be neat to see him try and bring down Lex as clark. As superman, he can do nothing because Lex covers his tracks so well, but as Clark he could dig up the dirt on him.

[JAK®]

But Kent is a reporter...he has to be able to talk to people and form coherant questions to ask people.
Clark Kent being a reporter never made sense when you think about it. It was mainly a tool for him to know about crimes as they happen.

[Midnight Black]

I want to see this clark actually go after a story and beat out Lois. I think it would be neat to see him try and bring down Lex as clark.

I couldn't agree more. I would like to see him have to use his mind as Clark, and his mind but mostly power as Superman against Brainiac, Darkseid's forces, that Kryptonite fueled robot, Doomsday/Goverment, etc.

That's why the cartoon DVDs have been so good, because they aren't afraid to go where the real life movies won't.

[batman44]

THe problem I had with Return's Clark is that he had nothing to do. He was just there. I hope the Clark in MOS actually have a life outside of being Superman. I want him to interact with those around him (not being totally ignored) and show his prowess as a reporter.

[Gianakin_]

Keaton's Batman spoke where/when appropriate.

Yeah, I know, I was making an observation.

However, I think Clark talking a lot is a good idea for a couple of reasons.

Agreed. Just when appropriate, though. In the instances you mentioned it's fine. We need character development and I never get it when a story focuses on Superman, with minimum Kent. That's a glaring minus to SR for me.

[Midnight Black]

^^ Great points!

[darkzombiemutt]

Yeah, it would be cool to have Clark Kent the hero of a movie, where he actually takes down Lex by exposing him, instead of Superman beating him into submission, so to speak.

[John Legendary]

Hi people, I´m new here. I don´t know if anyone every mention this guy for the role: Ivan Sergei. Man, I gotta tell ya. This guy has supermans written all over him! He has got the looks for superman. And I mean the superman from the comicbooks. And I´m a long time fan of Superman. I came up with idea while watching some corny movie called Jack Hunter and the etc etc. Me and my brother saw this guy and both said the same thing at the same time: SUPERMAN. I looked up his bio. He´s tall, mature and has a dark look. I guess he can act too. I only think he´s a bit skinny but nowadays they can change a twig into a tank (sometimes with the help some of vitamine S). But just imagine him playing Supes. What do you guys think?

[ALP]

Um Val Kilmer was terrible and I'll tell you why. He was too serious, no pun intended). His Bruce Wayne and Batman were too identical, he never showed a difference in the portrayal. Plus he was too dry, artificial, and robotic. "I am Batman, beep-boop-bop-boop!" If they could've mixed his Batman with George Clooney's Bruce Wayne, then we would've gotten one of the best performances for Bruce/Bats. Alas, after Keaton we got Kilmer as Keaton's Batman and Clooney as Keaton's Wayne. Just Terrible.

I thought Val Kilmer did a decent job, and there were differences in the characters. Whenever he was in public he was pretty laid back and friendly. Do you not recall the scenes where he is being photographed and hounded by the paps when he takes Chase out? He's laughing and joking and was also quite friendly with his employees at Wayne Enterprise. And joking with Chase that he'd like to get her out of her clothes right before they go to the circus.

I also hated George Clooney as both Batman and Wayne so I certainly can't agree!

No, because that is Batman if you think about it. He talks when needed and speaks more with his emotions and mannerisms, unlike Clark/Supes. In contrast Clark/Supes does the talking, is in the spotlight, Speaks to the crowds, is the boy scout.

Keaton's Wayne/Bats had dialogue as much as any character in the film, except Nicholson/Joker. He was a secretive yet charming Wayne and dark Bats. Perfect, IMO.

Keaton's Batman spoke where/when appropriate. Plus each line he had had impact as Batman,as seen in his dialogue with Vale and Joker. Also, the film was dark anyway and meant to be dark, so a talkative Bats wouldn't have fit. Probably another reason for the lack of dialogue was so they could distance themselves from West's incarnation in the 60-70s, which Michael Uslan had a hard enough time trying to sell WB on the idea to begin with.

I agree that Superman should talk a lot, and somewhat Wayne, but not so much. However, I think Clark talking a lot is a good idea for a couple of reasons. 1. It shows that the "real" Clark is still trying to make that connection to humanity and interact and function in society even under disguise. 2) I like to see Clark and his personality outside of Superman, even if it is a disguise. Seeing Clark as a Journalist, son, cousin, love interest and suitor for Lois is interesting, and something you don't get with Bruce/Bats. Girls chase Bruce, Clark chases girls.

I would like to see Clark not hide in the corner, but be a normal guy who functions like any other. IMO the cowardly guy who is too timid to do anything is getting old. Reeves did a spot on job with it, but it's time to move on. Plus in Superman 2 where he gives up his powers, that brief time where his no longer Superman or the bumbling Clark is great!

Now this I fully agree with:up:

Clark should be confident. I don't mind when he's sort of non-existent but that can get boring very quickly.

[SuperMike335!!]

Hi people, I´m new here. I don´t know if anyone every mention this guy for the role: Ivan Sergei. Man, I gotta tell ya. This guy has supermans written all over him! He has got the looks for superman. And I mean the superman from the comicbooks. And I´m a long time fan of Superman. I came up with idea while watching some corny movie called Jack Hunter and the etc etc. Me and my brother saw this guy and both said the same thing at the same time: SUPERMAN. I looked up his bio. He´s tall, mature and has a dark look. I guess he can act too. I only think he´s a bit skinny but nowadays they can change a twig into a tank (sometimes with the help some of vitamine S). But just imagine him playing Supes. What do you guys think?

Several months with a bodybuilding coach, let the makeup team tweeze some of those brows when they go to work on him (they do things like this for ALL actors), and he may be a good choice.

He does have strong bone structure, he is 6'4" and very masculine looking.

Worth an audtion for sure.

[John Legendary]

Several months with a bodybuilding coach, let the makeup team tweeze some of those brows when they go to work on him (they do things like this for ALL actors), and he may be a good choice.

He does have strong bone structure, he is 6'4" and very masculine looking.

Worth an audtion for sure.

Exactly. Check out this vid on youtube. And take a good look at his face and facial expressions. Start from 3:00. I tell ya. He fits the part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thPyQ8d6Vxg
(http://http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=thPyQ8d6Vxg)

[daywalker2007]

Exactly. Check out this vid on youtube. And take a good look at his face and facial expressions. Start from 3:00. I tell ya. He fits the part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thPyQ8d6Vxg
(http://http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=thPyQ8d6Vxg)

its nice to have a new suggestion.

but he looks exactly like Justin Bruening (Knight Rider 2008 Series) and Stephen Fry combined.

Some people mentioned Justin Bruening a while back, so I guess he is a sort of superior version of him.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/429/gravity2010126x4.jpg


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3461/hboluxuryloungehonor60t.jpghttp://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4980/stephenfry.jpg

[Man of Tomorrow]

There's no way that guy could pass for an early 20s CK.

[Octoberist]

yuck

[SuperMike335!!]

yuck

Ivan is offended.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8876/ivansergei200906171.jpg

[Midnight Black]

Hi people, I´m new here. I don´t know if anyone every mention this guy for the role: Ivan Sergei. Man, I gotta tell ya. This guy has supermans written all over him! He has got the looks for superman. And I mean the superman from the comicbooks. And I´m a long time fan of Superman. I came up with idea while watching some corny movie called Jack Hunter and the etc etc. Me and my brother saw this guy and both said the same thing at the same time: SUPERMAN. I looked up his bio. He´s tall, mature and has a dark look. I guess he can act too. I only think he´s a bit skinny but nowadays they can change a twig into a tank (sometimes with the help some of vitamine S). But just imagine him playing Supes. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, but for some reason when I read this the voice that popped into my head sounded like the anakin skywalker from the phantom menace lol. It just sounds like a 8 year old is talking, but I'm not saying anything negative about your writing so please don't take it that way. It's just been a few posts since someone has come in and campaigned for a new guy. Thanks for the posting, always glad to have a breath of fresh air!!!

I also hated George Clooney as both Batman and Wayne so I certainly can't agree!

Clark should be confident. I don't mind when he's sort of non-existent but that can get boring very quickly.

Clooney made a good Wayne, don't knock him lol. Yeah supes should be a normal guy!

[Midnight Black]

I use to think that Ivan and Eddie would be good as Supes and Bats, either could play either role:

http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/eddie-cibrian-divorce.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Premiere+Spartacus+Blood+Sand+Arrivals+OXD9Ku8rsbC l.jpg

I would like to see them as Supes & Bats in a young Kingdom Come JL movie or a JL movie where the heroes are in their 30s-40s.

[gdw]

Regardless, it's good to hear the Nolan/Goyer script will also give the 'real' Clark Kent some focus too.

The freelance journalist in Africa is clearly the real CK. He only adapts the exaggerated CK ersona for the DP when he becomes Superman.

Superman Returns unfortunately cut most of it's farm scenes and gave us only 1 scene with the real Clark Kent.

I liked the difference between the three:

Real CK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usXuL9-uFJw

Exaggerated CK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eENUTx1xxM8

Superman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JV8OtM8vrM

I liked certain aspects of Routh's portrayal, but at first I thought you posted these vids as satire, that is, there's not too much difference. There is some, but it's not the best, nor the best acing so it kinda dulls the whole differences down a good bit.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Armie Hammer could be out. Co-starring in Eastwood's J. Edgar Hoover biopic with DiCaprio.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/12/08/armie-hammer-leonardo-dicaprio-clint-eastwood-hoover/

[Denny67]

Routh did a perfect Clark Kent, just a bit shy and awkward, but mostly unnoticeable. Reeve's Kent was fun but he brought far too much attention on himself.

Once again that is only if you consider the “perfect” Clark Kent to be Richard Donner’s Clark Kent.

When you see Clark Kent in the Superman or JLA cartoon, or Clark Kent in the 1950 TV show with George Reeves. You see a very different alter ego, who is more confident and capable man. That Clark Kent has always been far more believable to me; considering that he is a guy who is supposed to be a reporter in a major city, working for a major newspaper.

[Jake Cassidy]

Armie Hammer could be out. Co-starring in Eastwood's J. Edgar Hoover biopic with DiCaprio.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/12/08/armie-hammer-leonardo-dicaprio-clint-eastwood-hoover/

Good. He'd be a much better Aquaman than Superman, imo.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Good. He'd be a much better Aquaman than Superman, imo.

With you on that.

[Polux]

Clooney made a good Wayne, don't knock him lol. Yeah supes should be a normal guy!

Clooney was playing George Clooney, as he always does.


Polux

[Midnight Black]

Clooney was playing George Clooney, as he always does.

& out of all the men in Hollywood I would say that Clooney or Pitt embody Wayne the best. Suave, strong, charming men who can pull of dark mysterious turmoil troubled souls.

However my below (your above) choices for Clark and Bruce would be ideal for a JL movie.

[Midnight Black]

Clooney was playing George Clooney, as he always does

Is there anything wrong with that. Seems pretty much like the Wayne I grew up on.

[I Am The Knight]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Premiere+Spartacus+Blood+Sand+Arrivals+OXD9Ku8rsbC l.jpg



Yucky.

[Sub-Zero]

i think every superman 'reject' could be capt. marvel, including this ivan dude.

[NotFadeAway]

Whoever pointed out the importance of the casting cirector for this project might be on too something, IMO.

As other posters have pointed out, Zack Snyder is at his core about the visual aspects of filmmaking. Snyder was a visual arts major in college, after all. I believe that is fact is part of the Nolan/Goyer/Snyder package. That package consists of Nolan and Goyer being responsible for the script, which they do very well. Obviously. Snyder is then almost brought in as the ultimate "script director" in this scenario. Think Martin Campbell movies. I brought this up in several posts before going on a leave of absence from this forum. The only film I believe Snyder wrote the screenplay for was 300, which was his best. So I trust him to make one or two adjustments if need be. But the script is from two scripting geniuses. Now it's up to Snyder to bring in the visual junkies. It could be a perfect partnership.

Don't be shocked if the casting director is John Papsidera, who has worked with Nolan on both Batman films and Inception. From there, Papsidera and Snyder can hammer out the details. And no, that was not an Armie Hammer pun.

[Octoberist]

Yucky.

I agree. disgusting.:oldrazz:

[I Am The Knight]

I agree. disgusting.:oldrazz:

Keep that hillbilly away from my Superman.

[GreenKToo]

we hillbillies like superman as well lol.

[SuperZer0]

How about this guy?

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5581/johnkrasinski.jpg

.....just kidding. :hehe:

[Superark]

Armie Hammer could be out. Co-starring in Eastwood's J. Edgar Hoover biopic with DiCaprio.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/12/08/armie-hammer-leonardo-dicaprio-clint-eastwood-hoover/

He was in my top 3, right behind Routh and McPartlin

[Superark]

^^Dude, love the avvy.


Thanks! Have a Super Merry Christmas!!! :yay:

[Superman2007]

How 'bout Jordan Belfi?http://image.xyface.com/image/j/artist-jordan-belfi/jordan-belfi-196531.jpg


Just throwing another name out there.

[BrlntDsgse]

How about this guy?

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5581/johnkrasinski.jpg

.....just kidding. :hehe:

Call me crazy, but I could totally see it. I was a big supporter of his earlier this year when he was being talked about for Captain America.

[Sub-Zero]

Jordan Belfi plays adam davies on entourage. he has the look but, how old is that pic? he looks pretty old now. this is what he looks like as of this sept:
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2194/jordanbelfipremierehbod.jpg

[DCnightwing23]

I think jordan belfi is 32, which isnt too old but he does look older and he's barely 6" but ive read elsewhere he's 5"10 or 5"11

[Octoberist]

Call me crazy, but I could totally see it. I was a big supporter of his earlier this year when he was being talked about for Captain America.

He was kidding. and no, I love him but he shouldn't even audition.

[Lobo]

Armie Hammer could be out. Co-starring in Eastwood's J. Edgar Hoover biopic with DiCaprio.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/12/08/armie-hammer-leonardo-dicaprio-clint-eastwood-hoover/

Glad to see Hammer getting what looks to be another good role. And, yeah this likely means he is out of the running.

So I guess my previous guys all get bumped up a spot. This would make Robert Buckley my top choice, his look is different but I know he'd do well in the role

[That-Guy]

Hell no to that Belfi guy. He looks like John Glover in that second picture.

[Dark Knight]

Armie Hammer could be out. Co-starring in Eastwood's J. Edgar Hoover biopic with DiCaprio.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2010/12/08/armie-hammer-leonardo-dicaprio-clint-eastwood-hoover/






It says filming is to begin early next year, so I suspect that means end of January or Feburary and there is no way an Eastwood Hoover film will take 3 months to shoot. It will probably only take 2-2 and half months tops to shoot that film IMO.

The Man Of Steel isn't due to start shooting until June.

If Hammer is going to be considered for Superman, I don't think the Hoover film will get in the way. WB's is backing this Hoover film also, so it seems the studio is becoming chummy with Hammer.

[Octoberist]

As far as we know, there is no official start date released for the film yet; we just know that it has to get started in 2011 due to the court ruling. Unless I missed the news..

[BrlntDsgse]

He was kidding. and no, I love him but he shouldn't even audition.

I know he was kidding, he said that in his post. But I'M not kidding, I honestly think he'd be a great choice. He's a tall, handsome guy in the proper age range, so with some time in the gym I'm sure he could pull off the look. And performance-wise he has one VERY critical quality for Superman that oddly enough I never see anyone mention on here as a criteria.....Superman's LIKEABILITY, his overwhelmingly friendly nature and "put you at ease" charm and approachability. Chris Reeve had it in spades, just watch the Supes/Lois interview scene in STM or really any scene where Supes is interacting with anyone non-villainous. He's a larger than life character but his attitude is very "down-to-earth". And Krasinski definetely has that same kind of charm.

[John Legendary]

I'm sorry, but for some reason when I read this the voice that popped into my head sounded like the anakin skywalker from the phantom menace lol. It just sounds like a 8 year old is talking, but I'm not saying anything negative about your writing so please don't take it that way. It's just been a few posts since someone has come in and campaigned for a new guy. Thanks for the posting, always glad to have a breath of fresh air!!!



Clooney made a good Wayne, don't knock him lol. Yeah supes should be a normal guy!

Hahahaha, it´s ok. Make that 18 years old :woot:. I´m from Holland so my English might sound a little strange. But still I think this guy is a perfect fit. His facial structure resmebles the superman in the animated series The Batman: The Batman/Superman story (s5ep1). I loved the way this superman differs from the Bruce Timm superman. Eventhough Bruce Timms supes is my favorite.

Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkbGu2o8n2c

Just imagine Ivan battling Doomsday or Darkseid as superman. Or leading the Justice League. I can´t imagine Brandon Routhe doing that. I think he can give us that superman we all want. No Brandon Routh girlflick and no Lois & Clark sitcom. Just supes being The Man of Steel.

[Octoberist]

I know he was kidding, he said that in his post. But I'M not kidding, I honestly think he'd be a great choice. He's a tall, handsome guy in the proper age range, so with some time in the gym I'm sure he could pull off the look. And performance-wise he has one VERY critical quality for Superman that oddly enough I never see anyone mention on here as a criteria.....Superman's LIKEABILITY, his overwhelmingly friendly nature and "put you at ease" charm and approachability. Chris Reeve had it in spades, just watch the Supes/Lois interview scene in STM or really any scene where Supes is interacting with anyone non-villainous. He's a larger than life character but his attitude is very "down-to-earth". And Krasinski definetely has that same kind of charm.

He has the personality down, but no due to his look. And I'm not talking about build either.. I'm gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Whomever is cast will have to spend quite a bit of time dedicated to the role preparing for it.

The time between Routh being cast to cameras rolling was around six-seven months and he spent the entirety getting ready. Getting scanned by computers for effects work, having his body molded for suits and testing the various designs, prepping for all the wire-harness work required, reading with leading ladies, etc. Ditto with Andrew Garfield.

If Hammer is doing another movie (albeit produced by WB) in the "early months" of next year (translation: February-March ish), that highly suggests he's out. It's hypothetically possible to juggle both, but again highly doubtful.

[JAK®]

Once again that is only if you consider the “perfect” Clark Kent to be Richard Donner’s Clark Kent.Except Routh's Clark Kent was nothing like the Donner Kent.

When you see Clark Kent in the Superman or JLA cartoon, or Clark Kent in the 1950 TV show with George Reeves. You see a very different alter ego, who is more confident and capable man. That Clark Kent has always been far more believable to me; considering that he is a guy who is supposed to be a reporter in a major city, working for a major newspaper.
But that's boring. Kent needs to be very different from Superman. Clark Kent being a reporter never made sense. It was just a tool to let him hear about crimes as they happen (which was made redundant by his super-hearing)

[That-Guy]

Whomever is cast will have to spend quite a bit of time dedicated to the role preparing for it.

The time between Routh being cast to cameras rolling was around six-seven months and he spent the entirety getting ready. Getting scanned by computers for effects work, having his body molded for suits and testing the various designs, prepping for all the wire-harness work required, reading with leading ladies, etc. Ditto with Andrew Garfield.

If Hammer is doing another movie (albeit produced by WB) in the "early months" of next year (translation: February-March ish), that highly suggests he's out. It's hypothetically possible to juggle both, but again highly doubtful.

But isn't Garfield attached to like 10 movies at any given time? I'd never heard of that kid a year ago and now it's seems like he's in a different movie every month.

[solidsnake86]

Whomever is cast will have to spend quite a bit of time dedicated to the role preparing for it.

The time between Routh being cast to cameras rolling was around six-seven months and he spent the entirety getting ready. Getting scanned by computers for effects work, having his body molded for suits and testing the various designs, prepping for all the wire-harness work required, reading with leading ladies, etc. Ditto with Andrew Garfield.

If Hammer is doing another movie (albeit produced by WB) in the "early months" of next year (translation: February-March ish), that highly suggests he's out. It's hypothetically possible to juggle both, but again highly doubtful.

True but I guess it will be dependent on when they actually start production on this film. If sucker punch is coming out in March of next year what could be the earliest time they could actually start filming if he has to go out an promote his current film?

[FilmNerdJamie]

But isn't Garfield attached to like 10 movies at any given time? I'd never heard of that kid a year ago and now it's seems like he's in a different movie every month.

Nope. He'd done Social Network and Never Let Me Go well before Spider-Man entered into the equation. Once he got that gig, that's all he's been working on.

[elgaz]

I haven't heard Daniel Cudmore's name mentioned for a while, Supermike335 was a big fan of his and put up some good pics. Is he still a contender? Or is he too big at 6"7?

http://www.sundaypaper.com/Portals/0/2010/070410/Cudmore-QA.jpg

http://quileutewolfpack.com/newsblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/view-8.jpg

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ld/the_expendables_2_120810/daniel_cudmore_2959665.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/movies/1/0/v/o/V/daniel-cudmore-eclipse-premiere.jpg

[DCnightwing23]

I like Cudmore for his build and height but the guy just plain cant act, he has hardly any lines in any movie he's been in and i think he's been around since 2002.

[SuperMike335!!]

I haven't heard Daniel Cudmore's name mentioned for a while, Supermike335 was a big fan of his and put up some good pics. Is he still a contender? Or is he too big at 6"7?


I used to mention him more, but there are so many other good names now, and Cudmore is not from the USA, Canadian.

Even then the whole topic comes down to people either believing that a hollywood studio either can or cannot hide a few extra inches in height fro Clark scenes.

I like Cudmore for his build and height but the guy just plain cant act, he has hardly any lines in any movie he's been in and i think he's been around since 2002.

There is no proof he cannot act, how often do you see ANY 6'7" actors with more than a handful of lines?

Of the short list that do, it took many years before any director gave them the chance to showcase any talent.

Things were not always this way, but in the last decade I cannot think of any young actors over 6'6" given any sort of opportunity to really act.

Its not like there is some disease where you cross 6'5" and all of the sudden lose the ability to act, but that is the way a lot of very tall actors have been treated for a while now.

To say just because he has not been given much to work with is not really telling.

What is funny, is I see this applied to any unknown actor who is either 1. In good physical shape, tall, well built etc... OR 2. Very good looking. You know, because of the mental disease that come with all that.

Then when you see anyone who is suggested who is ugly, short, out of shape, everybody jumps in to say "what a great actor" so and so is.

Nobody ever sees the double standard.

[Agentdemon]

Too tall. Another good looking guy and perfect as colossus but he doesn't look like superman.

[Sub-Zero]

there's no proof cudmore can act either.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Cudmore was tested for Superman years ago and never went past the first audition.

[AntMan]

Maybe Cudmore should call WWE, I'm sure Vinnie Mac would love him.

[NotFadeAway]

Too tall. Another good looking guy and perfect as colossus but he doesn't look like superman.

Everytime I come back from extended periods away from this forum, I hope grow up and stop suggesting tall, good looking male models. It never happens.

Granted, with Snyder, this stands a chance of happening. But I have hope that the Nolan/Goyer factor kicks in and prevents such idiocy.

Maybe Cudmore should call WWE, I'm sure Vinnie Mac would love him.

lol.

[Midnight Black]

[QUOTE=John Legendary;19330081]Hahahaha, it´s ok. Make that 18 years old :woot:. I´m from Holland so my English might sound a little strange. QUOTE]

You're English is fine, it just sounded very Billy Batson if you get my drift lol. All's good! I agree with you though Ivan could make a good Supes or Bats, IMO.

[Midnight Black]

I agree. disgusting.:oldrazz:

Disgusting?? Google the guy. With the right amount of training and muscle, not too mention movie magic. He could make a good clark or bruce.

Keep that hillbilly away from my Superman.

Definitely not a hill billy.

Jordan Belfi plays adam davies on entourage. he has the look but, how old is that pic? he looks pretty old now. this is what he looks like as of this sept:
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2194/jordanbelfipremierehbod.jpg


Ummm young Lionel Luthor anybody?

[JAK®]

Granted, with Snyder, this stands a chance of happening. But I have hope that the Nolan/Goyer factor kicks in and prevents such idiocy.

Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Matthew Goode. All male models with no acting talent :whatever:

Nolan and Goyer don't need to do a thing. It's proven that Snyder can find good actors (and direct them)

[Midnight Black]

http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/eddie-cibrian-divorce.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Premiere+Spartacus+Blood+Sand+Arrivals+OXD9Ku8rsbC l.jpg

I would like to see them as Supes & Bats in a young Kingdom Come JL movie or a JL movie where the heroes are in their 30s-40s.[/QUOTE]

[Dark Knight]

Whomever is cast will have to spend quite a bit of time dedicated to the role preparing for it.

The time between Routh being cast to cameras rolling was around six-seven months and he spent the entirety getting ready. Getting scanned by computers for effects work, having his body molded for suits and testing the various designs, prepping for all the wire-harness work required, reading with leading ladies, etc. Ditto with Andrew Garfield.

If Hammer is doing another movie (albeit produced by WB) in the "early months" of next year (translation: February-March ish), that highly suggests he's out. It's hypothetically possible to juggle both, but again highly doubtful.







Say the Hoover film starts shooting in February. Hoover isn't going to be a heavy special effects laden film I would think, so I would think Hammers scenes could be filmed in a month and half if not less possibly.

It shouldn't take Hammer 2 months to film all his scenes in Hoover should it?

Hard for me to see that happening. That means he would have 3 months of prep for the tentative June principal shoot date for The Man Of Steel. Plenty of time.

Now if the Hoover shoot starts in April or May than I would definitely say he is out as a Superman candidate.

Regardless, I'm sure WB's, Nolan and Snyder already have their eye on a few actors.

Do you believe what MechaDexx (or whatever is name was) was saying a few weeks ago regarding Hammer and Cavill being the main candidates WB's and Snyder may possibly be looking at?

[SuperMike335!!]

there's no proof cudmore can act either.

That could be said for a LOT of the other suggestions too.

That is why they have auditions.

Anyway, as for Cudmore, there are a lot of what I think are better options at this time.

Him auditioning would still be a good idea, but I'm not putting him as a top contender.

Guys like Ryan McPartlin, Manganiello and so forth are what I prefer for the role, but the list would not stop with those two either.

I think with a wide enough field being looked at they can find someone with the look, the height, the build, the voice, and the acting talent to make a great Superman.

[Dark Knight]

Whomever is cast will have to spend quite a bit of time dedicated to the role preparing for it.

The time between Routh being cast to cameras rolling was around six-seven months and he spent the entirety getting ready. Getting scanned by computers for effects work, having his body molded for suits and testing the various designs, prepping for all the wire-harness work required, reading with leading ladies, etc. Ditto with Andrew Garfield.

If Hammer is doing another movie (albeit produced by WB) in the "early months" of next year (translation: February-March ish), that highly suggests he's out. It's hypothetically possible to juggle both, but again highly doubtful.




Here is some more info below from DiCaprio himself regarding the possible Hoover shooting dates, which he says looks to be "January or February". If true, Hammer can finish his scenes in a month and half max IMO and still have plenty of time to prep for The Man Of Steel shoot in June.

http://www.slashfilm.com/leonardo-dicaprio-confirms-clint-eastwoods-hoover-shoot-early-2011-hugo-cabret-update/

[NotFadeAway]

Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Matthew Goode. All male models with no acting talent :whatever:

Nolan and Goyer don't need to do a thing. It's proven that Snyder can find good actors (and direct them)

I was implying that Snyder goes for the visual as much as the story. I did not say that Snyder COULD NOT find good actors, that he WOULD go for the male model. I acknowledged the possibility that it might happen.

Check my recents posts. I support Snyder.

And don't leave out Gerard Butler, Michael Fassbender, Ving Rhames. I'm actually quite suprised Kevin Zegers name hasn't been brought up yet. Snyder worked with him on Dawn of the Dead and he was very good in Transamerica.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0954225/

[FilmNerdJamie]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant

[I Am The Knight]

Thanks! Have a Super Merry Christmas!!! :yay:

:yay: "I gotta get me one of those".

You're English is fine,

Haha :o

Cudmore was tested for Superman years ago and never went past the first audition.

Interesting....

[Midnight Black]

Sorry, I meant your english is fine lol. I'm at work doing 3 things at once and letting the computer do the spell check. Nice catch though.:woot:

[batman44]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant

I'm not familiar with this guy at all, but he looks decent enough (if not a little young). His voice is higher than what I would want , but he could probably work on that. I wonder if he would get an audition?

[RachelDawes]

But that's boring. Kent needs to be very different from Superman. Clark Kent being a reporter never made sense. It was just a tool to let him hear about crimes as they happen (which was made redundant by his super-hearing)

Clark's a reporter because that's another way he make a difference outside of his superpowers. Plus, he probably likes writing.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant

Lmao @ "Taking over Christopher Reeve's roles are some pretty big shoes to fill!"

Owned Routh.

Additionally, are they joking about this guy? :o

[Tra-El]

Lmao @ "Taking over Christopher Reeve's roles are some pretty big shoes to fill!"

Owned Routh.

Additionally, are they joking about this guy? :o

If Warner Brothers want a Superman who sounds like he got his balls twisted in a meat grinder, then no... they aren't joking.:wow:

[Zorex]

Brant's a friend of mine from college, and he's an admitted big fan of Superman. An absolute sweetheart and definitely a looker, and, who knows, maybe his very mild exposure thus far could benefit his chances.

[The Watchman]

I feel bad for the guy, he has the look, but unless he did something about the high, lispy, gay voice then I can't see that happening.

[SuperMike335!!]

If Warner Brothers want a Superman who sounds like he got his balls twisted in a meat grinder, then no... they aren't joking.:wow:


Well, with the right bodybuilding coach and some special supplements I bet he could get his voice a LOT lower. :woot:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/848/depotestosterone200mgml.jpg

If you want a good looking, athletic 6'4" option with charisma, AND a deep voice, how about Ryan McPartlin ?

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3127/changingpcpartlin2.jpg

[NotFadeAway]

Clark's a reporter because that's another way he make a difference outside of his superpowers. Plus, he probably likes writing.


I know in some comics Clark Kent played football in high school, was popular, etc.

But logically, in my mind, with being the way he was, Clark Kent would have never played football. Clark would have kept to himself, having never been popular. Now, I don't see him as a Peter Parker-esque dork that got picked on left and right, but as a casually clumsy, quiet, too himself guy that most people probably didn't know existed. And thats when writing kicks in. Writing is something most introverted, secluded people love to do. It's one of the only things Clark could even do normally. Even sending in articles under an assumed name to the local Smallville paper. I have even pictured Clark as taking the Creative Writing route into Journalism, having experimented with more than just articles. Short Stories, novel ideas, even poetry. I'd like Clark to be a jack of all trades writerm too kind of counter Lois Lane's more direct kick ass, straight forward Investigative Journalist

[HighFivingMF]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant
It makes me laugh how the URL ends "pos_star_brant"

[Parker Wayne]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant

He looks fine. Maybe he could deepen his voice, but imagine him saying "General, would you like to step outside?" with that voice. :hehe:

[JAK®]

Clark's a reporter because that's another way he make a difference outside of his superpowers. Plus, he probably likes writing.
I meant logistically.

[Superark]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant


Um no thanks! Don't need a Superman with an effeminate voice

[hurley711]

I was highly disappointed in the lack of lines Routh was given in SR, and when you hear how much of the farm scenes were left on the cutting room floor I wonder if it was because he was just not that good and Singer didn't want to take the hit for casting him. The scene left in where he talks to Ma Kent about Krypton being a graveyard.....I actually thought he was brutal in just that short scene compared to a seasoned actress. Again I understand it wa shis first major role, but if the rest of his parts were like that then I'm glad they were cut

[Lone]

Hahahaha, it´s ok. Make that 18 years old :woot:. I´m from Holland so my English might sound a little strange. But still I think this guy is a perfect fit. His facial structure resmebles the superman in the animated series The Batman: The Batman/Superman story (s5ep1). I loved the way this superman differs from the Bruce Timm superman. Eventhough Bruce Timms supes is my favorite.

Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkbGu2o8n2c

Just imagine Ivan battling Doomsday or Darkseid as superman. Or leading the Justice League. I can´t imagine Brandon Routhe doing that. I think he can give us that superman we all want. No Brandon Routh girlflick and no Lois & Clark sitcom. Just supes being The Man of Steel.

No.:dry:

[I Am The Knight]

"Brandon Routh girlflick" :hehe: :waa:

[S_H_F_4839]

I wasnt that big a supporter of hammer initially but recently watched the social network and think he could actually pull it off.

[That-Guy]

Well, with the right bodybuilding coach and some special supplements I bet he could get his voice a LOT lower. :woot:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/848/depotestosterone200mgml.jpg

If you want a good looking, athletic 6'4" option with charisma, AND a deep voice, how about Ryan McPartlin ?

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3127/changingpcpartlin2.jpg

He looks strangely like Julian McMahon in this manip.

[MilkmanDan]

He looks strangely like Julian McMahon in this manip.
That was my first thought as well.

[Midnight Black]

Dr. Doom as Superman, hmmm???

[Slugster]

Manganiello isn't the only one wanting to wear the red-and-blue suit.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/Vanessa_Mujica/2010/12/09/apospretty_little_liarsapos_star_brant
WOW his voice... NOT!

[trumpster]

Andrew Craghan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2871998/)

Asgard mentioned this guy back in April.
I think he has the right height, age, and looks.

[JAK®]

Andrew Craghan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2871998/)

Asgard mentioned this guy back in April.
I think he has the right height, age, and looks.
Looks good.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/MV5BMTQxNzU5NTcxNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzgwNzExNA_V1_ SX214_CR00214314_.jpg

In fact we have a video of him using Superman's ice breath :oldrazz:;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ4fXOCZ-GM

[Denny67]

Except Routh's Clark Kent was nothing like the Donner Kent.




You can't be serious. Singer was very up front on how he tried to duplicate and continue on with Donner's version of Superman. I would have thought that alone would have been enough clarification. If not though, maybe the same John William score being used, along with Routh's obvious ticks? I mean really, you don't see it? Seriously?
However if it was not, there is no need to take my word. Just ask him directly.


Brandon Routh Reflects on Superman
All Superman Stuff
In a wide-ranging interview over at Brandonrouth.blogspot.com, the actor reflects on his role of Superman in Bryan Singer's Superman Returns and thoughts of the future of the Man of Steel.
Naturally the first thing that's addressed is if there are any updates regarding him returning to the role.

"The only thing I can really speak to in regards to this question is that, I’d love to," enthuses Routh. "With Chris Nolan (again, another extremely talented director…and British!) shepherding the new film, it’s anybody’s guess what will happen. I look forward to meeting with him if I have the opportunity, and to discuss the project. The most important thing, no matter who plays Superman, is that they are able to truly honor and uphold the legacy of the character that is so deeply loved by so many."

Talking about his portrayal of the character, he explains that he did his best to uphold Christopher Reeve's interpretation of the character.


Link (http://www.**************.com/fansites/VoicesFromKrypton/news/?a=19489)


This is not even close to the first time this has come up and they (both Singer and Routh) have acknowledged the Donner/Reeve's approach to the character.


Still, and once again don't take my word on it. A simple search online produces a ton of substantiating articles and quotes on the subject.

[JAK®]

You can't be serious. Singer was very up front on how he tried to duplicate and continue on with Donner's version of Superman. I would have thought that alone would have been enough clarification. If not though, maybe the same John William score being used, along with Routh's obvious ticks? I mean really, you don't see it? Seriously?
However if it was not, there is no need to take my word. Just ask him directly.



Link (http://www.**************.com/fansites/VoicesFromKrypton/news/?a=19489)


This is not even close to the first time this has come up and they (both Singer and Routh) have acknowledged the Donner/Reeve's approach to the character.


Still, and once again don't take my word on it. A simple search online produces a ton of substantiating articles and quotes on the subject.
Yeah, I won't take your word for it, I'll just watch the movie. Reeve's Clark Kent was constantly tripping over, getting stuck in doors, whimpering like a moron and using outdated slang. Routh's Clark wasn't all that clumsy, other than the scene with the suitcases. He didn't speak much and when he did he spoke like a normal yet shy person.

Routh says he took inspiration from Reeve, but I'm betting he means Superman more than Kent. And he did play it similarly. This was a sequel to the Donner movies, after all.

[That-Guy]

I don't care if Routh was trying to emulate Reeve or not. Whatever the hell he was doing, he failed, in my opinion. Whether he was supposed to be Superman or Clark Kent, he just came across like a guy who should be buffing the floor.

[redrover]

Wow Craghan looks great, can he act?