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baleheadbrasil
12-30-2010, 09:03 AM
So let me get this straight balehead dislikes Cavill as she thinks cavill is unattractive and comes off as a douche? Yet she's perfectly content with Van Winkle even though all he ever plays is a jock thats a complete and utter douchebag. Hmm so balehead will take that instead of Cavill who has much more talent and actually has a different fresh superman look to him other then Van Winke who every seems to love because he looks slightly like Reeves, wow. Thank god she doesnt get to cast this movie, please balehead id rather have you try and boycott this film with Cavill as supes then having Van Winkle as Superman simple as that. Van Winkle is a talentless hack who because of people like balehead, get cast in crap roles because of his physique.
I never said that Cavill is unattractive. He is very handsome. But I donīt go with his face even so.
The same thing with Matt Damon, for example.
He is attractive but I donīt like him,I also donīt go with his face,despite to think he is handsome.
But the question is not that. Itīs not the beauty.
The question is that I donīt see anything from Superman on Cavill.
I think he is more suitable for Bruce Wayne/Batman than Clark Kent Superman.
Well,abt Van Winkle,I think he looks much more like Clark/ Superman than Cavill. And yes,Travis is hotter than Cavill for me.
Travis is handsome,hot,has blue eyes like Superman,has a good physique,of course,he looks like Reeve...the only things against him is that he is not tall enough for the role(Cavill also isnīt!)and his talent is questionable.
Cavill for me,does not look like Superman and is not tall enough for the role,which in my opinion is essential for the actor who will play Superman... for me,this is lacking for him to play Superman.
The fact that he is a good actor does not help him,for me.
TVW may have a good look but his acting chops are questionable and he doesn't have the height and stature (yes he has a good build but stature and build are two different things). There is no need for WB to compromise on anything. Get a good actor who has the looks and the stature.
Cavill also does not have the stature.
He is only 2 centimeters taller than Van Twinkle.
The difference is minimal!
i normally don't like to talk about other people on the board, but i think balehead (who is a girl btw) simply thinks TVW is hotter than Cavill. that's fine and all, but i don't think that should be a determining factor for who should play Superman. after all, i think Megan Fox is one of the hottest girls in the industry right now but you don't see me suggesting her for Lois and posting remarks like "maybe she'll surprise us!!!"
But Megan Fox is an HORRIBLE actress.:woot:
Thereīs no how to choose her for a role like Lois Lane!
It would be a suicide!
The Watchman
12-30-2010, 09:49 AM
I'm nearly speechless...
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 09:55 AM
yeah, I think i'll stay outta here until we get some more rumors or an actual list.
Project862006
12-30-2010, 10:15 AM
LOL ricky martin in a superman thread
i have seen everything now
SrsBsns
12-30-2010, 10:24 AM
LOL this is now the best and worst thread on all of the Hype.
C. Lee
12-30-2010, 10:25 AM
LOL ricky martin in a superman thread
i have seen everything now
Just when I was about to suggest D.J. Qualls.
Tra-El
12-30-2010, 10:30 AM
Please tell me I just didn't see Ricky Martin....
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C. Lee
12-30-2010, 10:33 AM
LOL ricky martin in a superman thread
Please tell me I just didn't see Ricky Martin....
I think you guys missed the point of thier post...they're saying they can't see Cavill as Superman because he looks too much like Ricky Martin.
Project862006
12-30-2010, 10:59 AM
only resemblance is they both have beards in the pictures lol
this thread has taken a nose dive lets get back to actually fan casting
Nightwing1983
12-30-2010, 11:06 AM
only resemblance is they both have beards in the pictures lol
this thread has taken a nose dive lets get back to actually fan casting
Hmm... how about John Larroquette as Perry White?
Astrodust
12-30-2010, 03:23 PM
Please tell me I just didn't see Ricky Martin....
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Almost sig worthy lol. Anyways regardless of whoever gets cast as Superman, they will have to carry the screen for possibly 2+ hours. A lot of actors may be decent but may seem forgettable when the spotlight is on them for that length of time. Regardless about how you feel about actors like Kevin Costner, Nicolas Cage, and Keeanu Reeves, they carry the screen. These actors have made some good and bad films but their is a charisma about them that makes Hollywood gamble on them time and again. Truth is we don't know if TVW or Cavill are A-list hollywood potential. I haven't really seen enough of either actor yet to say for sure though Cavill has a couple of breakthrough roles upcoming. For the casting agent, it will come down to more than just a pretty face.
Showtime
12-30-2010, 03:29 PM
This is the most absurd, sad, depressing logic I've ever heard. Do you have that little going on in your life that this is actually worthy of your time?
This entire message board is questionable as it is because all of you will have no impact whatsoever on who's actually cast, so you'll spend years poring over every actor you've seen in every cancelled B-level Sci-Fi Channel drama, his nose, his muscles, his fingernails, his knee caps, he's not tall enough, he's too tall, his nose looks funny from a certain angle, he's too well known, he's not well known enough, I don't like his voice, he's not as good as Routh 'cause Routh is the greatest actor to ever live, he's too sissy, he's too manly, he has a mole on his left foot that's too big, no that mole's not big enough, he doesn't have the proper shoulder width, yeah that's right, shoulder width, the public won't believe he's Superman if he doesn't have the proper frame, he's 6'2", muscular, has black hair, blue eyes, a square jaw, perfect features, but his frame isn't right, oh well, we tried.
Then some director's going to come in and make the decision in 5 minutes that you guys spent years of your life droning on about and that director doesn't even know you exist nor does he care. All he cares about is what he thinks. So you might as well just sit and wait until an actual decision is announced or talk about the man who's going to end up getting the role, which is Henry Cavill. Or you can keep talking about Brandon Von Routh Winkle or whatever that guy's name is.
Also, this is one movie, people. One movie in the history of movies, and the chances are it's not even going to be a good movie! You all spent years talking about Superman Returns and now nobody even remembers that movie exists. It's fallen off the face of the earth and will never come back, much like the time you all spent dissecting it. Why not go spend that time more wisely? Spend it with your families, write a book, learn Japanese, go for a run, learn how to cook, or god forbid, if you have this much passion for superheros or movies or whatever it may be, go make a movie! Or create your own superhero. They all have the same pattern anyway, it's called the hero pattern. Use that structure to create a new one that will become the Superman of 100 years from now! Draw that character into a comic book. Oh, you don't know how to draw? Well, how long are you planning to live? Probably long enough to learn how to draw. Go do it! Go be productive, go accomplish things, become better people. Get off of this message board! It's wasting your lives. When you're on your deathbed, are you going to saying to yourself "I wish I spent more time on Superhero Hype"? Whatever it is that you're actually going to be saying to yourself, go do it!
So let me get this straight...you're basically telling people "To Get A Life"? Meanwhile in this very same thread, you posted a picture of Henry Cavill and now are insisting he is going to get the role.
I remember my first beer.
Majik1387
12-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Travis Van Winkle is only like 5'11.
Possibly even the same height or close to Bomer the hobbit
He doesn't fit the physical requirements for Superman at all.
Where did I say anything about height playing a factor? :huh:
LOL ricky martin in a superman thread
i have seen everything now
LOL this is now the best and worst thread on all of the Hype.
lol For real, but at least it's an actual reason from a poster other than a blanket statement.
I think you guys missed the point of thier post...they're saying they can't see Cavill as Superman because he looks too much like Ricky Martin.
I understood the post, but honestly, if Superman was a Hispanic character, Martin would have the look.
Astrodust
12-30-2010, 05:00 PM
The more I think about it, the more I feel WB will go with an actor with experience rather than a complete unknown. I really think this massive casting call is just for show. Even if some no name person floors them at audition, I can't see WB taking that chance. My guess is the list is almost made and we get our guy by February, mid-Feb at the latest.
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 05:17 PM
The more I think about it, the more I feel WB will go with an actor with experience rather than a complete unknown. I really think this massive casting call is just for show. Even if some no name person floors them at audition, I can't see WB taking that chance. My guess is the list is almost made and we get our guy by February, mid-Feb at the latest.
Yup, i'm thinking the same thing. maybe a TV actor, or, someone that has been in a few films but hasn't had a lead yet.
Strider14
12-30-2010, 05:22 PM
The more I think about it, the more I feel WB will go with an actor with experience rather than a complete unknown. I really think this massive casting call is just for show. Even if some no name person floors them at audition, I can't see WB taking that chance. My guess is the list is almost made and we get our guy by February, mid-Feb at the latest.
According to the little bit we have heard they are going with more of an unknown and that is what I am hoping for. If they go with someone who is recognizable than everyone is going to be judging that actor based on their prior experience..somewhat what we see here every day. :oldrazz: If they go with more of an unknown then no one has any pre-conceived notions about the actor to interfere with the image they want to create. I say start with a fresh new actor and build his image from there.
kal-elrebooted
12-30-2010, 05:27 PM
What happened to casting an unknown / relatively lesser known T.V. actor news ?
I have no idea
Alonsovich
12-30-2010, 05:27 PM
Yup, i'm thinking the same thing. maybe a TV actor, or, someone that has been in a few films but hasn't had a lead yet.
Captain America leftovers... :o
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 05:31 PM
I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see some of the same names for superman that we saw for cap.
EDIT:I didnt follow the casting of cap..anybody remember the names that were in the running? I remember hearing scott porter's name and thats it.
Chace Crawford (CW's Gossip Girl), John Krasinski (NBC's The Office), Scott Porter (NBC's Friday Night Lights), Michael Cassidy (CW's Privileged) or Patrick Flueger (Brothers)Mike Vogel (Cloverfield) and Garrett Hedlund (Tron: Legacy).Channing Tatum (Gi Joe)
Source deadline hollywood.
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 05:43 PM
hmmm. could our guy be in that group?
HighFivingMF
12-30-2010, 05:44 PM
Chace Crawford (CW's Gossip Girl), John Krasinski (NBC's The Office), Scott Porter (NBC's Friday Night Lights), Michael Cassidy (CW's Privileged) or Patrick Flueger (Brothers)Mike Vogel (Cloverfield) and Garrett Hedlund (Tron: Legacy).Channing Tatum (Gi Joe)
Source deadline hollywood.
I didn't read the post before this and got kinda bugged out for a minute. :doh:
Alonsovich
12-30-2010, 05:45 PM
I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see some of the same names for superman that we saw for cap.
EDIT:I didnt follow the casting of cap..anybody remember the names that were in the running? I remembern hearing scott porter's name and thats it.
Porter, Krasinki, Vogel, Cassidy, Crawford, Hedlund, Ackles... as far as I remember...
hopefuldreamer
12-30-2010, 05:46 PM
Chace Crawford (CW's Gossip Girl), John Krasinski (NBC's The Office), Scott Porter (NBC's Friday Night Lights), Michael Cassidy (CW's Privileged) or Patrick Flueger (Brothers)Mike Vogel (Cloverfield) and Garrett Hedlund (Tron: Legacy).Channing Tatum (Gi Joe)
Source deadline hollywood.
:awesome:
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 05:50 PM
You know, he kinda irked me before by turning it down, but seeing as how his career hasnt really caught fire, how about Josh Hartnett..he's 32, and 6' 3''.
hmmm. could our guy be in that group?
I hope not.
I will be willing to go with Krasinski because imo he is the best of the bunch, i think he could be interesting in a "Brendan Fraser" "way"(but Kent should do something with thoses ears lol) but i know that he would a very unpopular choice ;)
GoblinWhirlwind
12-30-2010, 06:01 PM
Chace Crawford (CW's Gossip Girl), John Krasinski (NBC's The Office), Scott Porter (NBC's Friday Night Lights), Michael Cassidy (CW's Privileged) or Patrick Flueger (Brothers)Mike Vogel (Cloverfield) and Garrett Hedlund (Tron: Legacy).Channing Tatum (Gi Joe)
Source deadline hollywood.
Lists like that is why I view each day with dread concerning a Superman announcement... that is why I have no faith in any studio to give us a great Superman. If that's gonna happen, it'll be by Snyder's choice.
Alonsovich
12-30-2010, 06:03 PM
You know, he kinda irked me before by turning it down, but seeing as how his career hasnt really caught fire, how about Josh Hartnett..he's 32, and 6' 3''.
He actually fits the bill much more than most if you ask me... but I don't think they'd offer it to him again. The Abrams project never got off the ground after he turned down the offer... had he said yes we'd possibly be speaking of Superman sequels and Batman reboot now, instead of Batman sequels and Superman reboot. I don't think WB is happy about that.
baleheadbrasil
12-30-2010, 06:05 PM
Porter, Krasinki, Vogel, Cassidy, Crawford, Hedlund, Ackles...
My God...the things are going from bad to worse. :(
Alonsovich
12-30-2010, 06:06 PM
I hope not.
I will be willing to go with Krasinski because imo he is the best of the bunch, i think he could be interesting in a "Brendan Fraser" "way"(but Kent should do something with thoses ears lol) but i know that he would a very unpopular choice ;)
I think a bulked up Porter would be an amazing Superman actually... the guy just has that all-american image down...
Porter, Krasinki, Vogel, Cassidy, Crawford, Hedlund, Ackles...
My God...the things are going from bad to worse. :(
It's not a superman list.
I think a bulked up Porter would be an amazing Superman actually... the guy just has that all-american image down...
Maybe. i actually like him from that list, now that you mention him. That said, i'm not so sure about him leading a franchise like superman now.. dunno something about his charisma, something bother me.. could be wrong..
Lists like that is why I view each day with dread concerning a Superman announcement... that is why I have no faith in any studio to give us a great Superman. If that's gonna happen, it'll be by Snyder's choice.
Keep in mind, too that marvel was reportedly trying to go cheap.
not saying that it will give us a better list lol but still.
Project862006
12-30-2010, 06:18 PM
porter looks more scott summers than superman imo
baleheadbrasil
12-30-2010, 06:19 PM
It's not a superman list.
Thank God! :woot: :hehe:
I Am The Knight
12-30-2010, 06:24 PM
Is it too late to react to that Ricky Martin bit...?
Now i would not be surprise to see Porter on a superman casting list, after all he tried not only for Cap but justice league mortal (and cap) and allegedly Warner likes him
Hammer would be a natural too for the same reasons ( That said, he has not tried for cap to my knowledge).
Alonsovich
12-30-2010, 06:54 PM
Now i would not be surprise to see Porter on a superman casting list, after all he tried not only for Cap but justice league mortal (and cap) and allegedly Warner likes him
Hammer would be a natural too for the same reasons ( That said, he has not tried for cap to my knowledge).
I'm guessing both of those are a lock for a screentest... possibly others like Padalecki also. I'd say that's where they will be looking this time... more than an unknown, a young actor that already has baggage but isn't still a major star. Those fit the bill. I know you guys like the height and features stuff, being buff, blah, blah... but WB has screentested in the past many young actors that didn't even arrive to 6 feet tall, so I don't think that's going to be a problem for them. If a young actor has the square jaw, can act and nails the screen test... he's not going to be rejected just because he's 2 inches less than some other guy that has the looks but completely SUCKS as an actor. Camera tricks, chicken, protein shakes and weights can do the magic and take only months or weeks. Acting lessons take YEARS.
baleheadbrasil
12-30-2010, 06:57 PM
Henry Cavill looks like Ricky Martin... hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but I laughed.
hopefuldreamer
12-30-2010, 07:06 PM
Is it too late to react to that Ricky Martin bit...?
Was just thinking that myself... but i think it's one of those that deserves a second round of 'you wa?'
DorkyFresh
12-30-2010, 07:07 PM
how klark cent sees Ricky Martin whenever he looks at Cavill is beyond me. despite them having strong, masculine facial features they look nothing alike.
GreenKToo
12-30-2010, 07:14 PM
I don't see it either. Each to their own.
Parker Wayne
12-30-2010, 07:16 PM
Porter, Krasinki, Vogel, Cassidy, Crawford, Hedlund, Ackles...
My God...the things are going from bad to worse. :(
I remember those times in the Cap thread when names came out.
Fun times, especially when everyone thought Krasinski had the role. :yay:
Majik1387
12-30-2010, 07:25 PM
I remember those times in the Cap thread when names came out.
Fun times, especially when everyone thought Krasinski had the role. :yay:
Thank god their fanboy wishing will be only that.:cwink:
hobo123
12-30-2010, 08:01 PM
Cavill needs to be Superman
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hopefuldreamer
12-30-2010, 08:01 PM
Thank god their fanboy wishing will be only that.:cwink:
I seriously don't get how that can be anyone's fantasy :csad:
hobo123
12-30-2010, 08:01 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2460/412910629195fdcfd052o.jpg
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hopefuldreamer
12-30-2010, 08:03 PM
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2636/033js.jpg
Can you tell me what this pic is from?
hobo123
12-30-2010, 08:10 PM
its from the movie Blood Creek
baleheadbrasil
12-30-2010, 08:17 PM
Cavill needs to be Superman
Please no!!!!
Lord,please donīt let this happen...:csad:
Man of Steel
12-30-2010, 08:24 PM
You know, he kinda irked me before by turning it down, but seeing as how his career hasnt really caught fire, how about Josh Hartnett..he's 32, and 6' 3''.
Sorry, but he doesn't look like Superman and doesn't want the role either.
Man of Steel
12-30-2010, 08:26 PM
Cavill needs to be Superman
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4982/009jlm.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/663/012hdv.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9359/013mc.jpg
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Yes, we all know that(except for baleheadbrasil).
I Am Jack's...
12-30-2010, 08:37 PM
Apart from Routh, Cavill really has the best Superman look I've seen out of the guys suggested here. And he actually looks pretty big in that picture with those 2 people for Cold Light of Day.
Parker Wayne
12-30-2010, 08:37 PM
Thank god their fanboy wishing will be only that.:cwink:
Some of the ideas for Captain America were worse than some of the Superman ideas.
Any of the fanboys saying Mark Valley for Cap really didn't know anything about Captain America.
Please no!!!!
Lord,please donīt let this happen...:csad:
I'm amazed you're still not in "Infraction City" by now. Seriously.:dry:
klark cent
12-30-2010, 09:27 PM
how klark cent sees Ricky Martin whenever he looks at Cavill is beyond me. despite them having strong, masculine facial features they look nothing alike.
Please allow me to explain:
It's the 'triangulation' of the eyes and chin that makes them look alike to me. They have strong jawline no doubt having the signature cleft chin. Their facial features are quite masculine but it projects to me more of a royalty/blue-blood stature that is above the masses... Imho, both of them can be passed along as brothers in a movie (not as identical twins) but don't worry, it might be just me who can see this...
Other thing is that the main character needs to have what I refer to as a 'steel gaze' when in focus or in a serious moment in the movie. For example:
Bale has it as Bats/Bruce Wayne. It sends the message that he is not BS-ing around and "you're in my crosshairs" moment.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5308603670_033801b5ea.jpg
Reeves has it. "Are you lookin at me... Are you lookin' at me." (Sorry I have to borrow that line from DeNiro. I like the Reeves rendering of the character although I consider him an icon of a certain period of Superman movie history much like his predecessors and so far the best one in the big screen. Imho his facial features/acting are not the gold standard in future Superman movies if the director wants to modernize it to make it relatable to the younger generation)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/5308598812_3f747312ee.jpg
TVM sort of has it from this manip. "Cross me and I'll fry you with my heat vision" (I can see a Jim Lee Superman with glowing red eyes and ironically I don't see this quality in Routh). Trust me, if you want a high action movie to complement a good story, this small detail is very important imho especially if Superman is pummelling a worthy adversary and his eyes are glowing red :super: Btw, if there's another unknown who has this kind of gaze and can really act well, I'm all for it.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5308010171_a35fe44ac9.jpg
Heck, even Carl Urban (Eomer of LOTR) has it :cwink: "What business does an elf, man, and a dwarf have in the Ridder-Mark? Speak quickly."
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5308010259_69d2759dec.jpg
In a nutshell, a masculine look has to look right as Superman in order for the "comicbook character to come alive in the big screen" --- and again, this is not a masked hero movie which can be very difficult to find the right balance of looks, height, build and acting ability... I'm surely hoping that Snyder will pick the right actor (not necesarily TVM) and basing from his previous movies, he's more detail oriented and faithful to the story that I would expect to see this in live action... I don't mean to trash Cavill nor criticizes the taste of Cavill die-hard fans. I'm sorry to say that I have yet to see this kind of 'gaze' from Cavill photos. As it is right now, I see him more brilliantly as Lar Gand/Mon-El (CK's childhood friend) than Kal-el (I borrowed one photo posted here to do a quick manip but no time available to do a 'puffy-shirt' sleeve ;) )
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/5308185195_d1b09249c5.jpg
DorkyFresh
12-30-2010, 10:01 PM
Please allow me to explain:
It's the 'triangulation' of the eyes and chin that makes them look alike to me. They have strong jawline no doubt having the signature cleft chin. Their facial features are quite masculine but it projects to me more of a royalty/blue-blood stature that is above the masses... Imho, both of them can be passed along as brothers in a movie (not as identical twins).
the triangulation can apply to many men who have been considered for this role, as can the strong jawline and cleft chins. however, Ricky Martin has a distinctly latino look while Cavill does not. not to mention their noses, their eyes...even their chins are different. the only thing they share is the slightly cleft chin and a masculine bone structure, which many other actors in this thread have suggested. again, i don't see how you thought of Ricky Martin when you looked at Cavill. they're about as similar looking as Dean Cain looks like Chris Reeve.
Other thing is that the main character needs to have what I refer to as a 'steel gaze' when in focus or in a serious moment in the movie.
I don't mean to trash Cavill nor criticizes the taste of Cavill die-hard fans. I'm sorry to say that I have yet to see this kind of 'gaze' from Cavill photos.
well, here it is...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/cavillsteelgaze.jpg
XxDelta09xX
12-30-2010, 11:13 PM
Cavill needs to be Superman
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4982/009jlm.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/663/012hdv.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9359/013mc.jpg
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He is pretty much the only thing that can save Superman from being a crappy movie.
HighFivingMF
12-30-2010, 11:17 PM
He is pretty much the only thing that can save Superman from being a crappy movie.
:dry:
jesusmagicka
12-30-2010, 11:32 PM
Please allow me to explain:
It's the 'triangulation' of the eyes and chin that makes them look alike to me. They have strong jawline no doubt having the signature cleft chin. Their facial features are quite masculine but it projects to me more of a royalty/blue-blood stature that is above the masses... Imho, both of them can be passed along as brothers in a movie (not as identical twins) but don't worry, it might be just me who can see this...
Other thing is that the main character needs to have what I refer to as a 'steel gaze' when in focus or in a serious moment in the movie. For example:
Bale has it as Bats/Bruce Wayne. It sends the message that he is not BS-ing around and "you're in my crosshairs" moment.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5308603670_033801b5ea.jpg
Reeves has it. "Are you lookin at me... Are you lookin' at me." (Sorry I have to borrow that line from DeNiro. I like the Reeves rendering of the character although I consider him an icon of a certain period of Superman movie history much like his predecessors and so far the best one in the big screen. Imho his facial features/acting are not the gold standard in future Superman movies if the director wants to modernize it to make it relatable to the younger generation)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/5308598812_3f747312ee.jpg
TVM sort of has it from this manip. "Cross me and I'll fry you with my heat vision" (I can see a Jim Lee Superman with glowing red eyes and ironically I don't see this quality in Routh). Trust me, if you want a high action movie to complement a good story, this small detail is very important imho especially if Superman is pummelling a worthy adversary and his eyes are glowing red :super: Btw, if there's another unknown who has this kind of gaze and can really act well, I'm all for it.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5308010171_a35fe44ac9.jpg
Heck, even Carl Urban (Eomer of LOTR) has it :cwink: "What business does an elf, man, and a dwarf have in the Ridder-Mark? Speak quickly."
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5308010259_69d2759dec.jpg
In a nutshell, a masculine look has to look right as Superman in order for the "comicbook character to come alive in the big screen" --- and again, this is not a masked hero movie which can be very difficult to find the right balance of looks, height, build and acting ability... I'm surely hoping that Snyder will pick the right actor (not necesarily TVM) and basing from his previous movies, he's more detail oriented and faithful to the story that I would expect to see this in live action... I don't mean to trash Cavill nor criticizes the taste of Cavill die-hard fans. I'm sorry to say that I have yet to see this kind of 'gaze' from Cavill photos. As it is right now, I see him more brilliantly as Lar Gand/Mon-El (CK's childhood friend) than Kal-el (I borrowed one photo posted here to do a quick manip but no time available to do a 'puffy-shirt' sleeve ;) )
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/5308185195_d1b09249c5.jpg
WTH? Why would you even bring up such an obscure, crappy character???
DorkyFresh
12-30-2010, 11:34 PM
He is pretty much the only thing that can save Superman from being a crappy movie.
i don't agree with that at all. Cavill seems to be a good actor, but this movie has a LOT going for it. Goyer/Nolan/Snyder, what seems to be a solid script based on some of the more popular/recent stories from the comics. i already have much more confidence in this movie than i did for SR.
batman44
12-31-2010, 01:51 AM
^Yeah, I agree. I like Cavill and all, but casting him will not keep the movie from being great or crappy. I'm sure there are a good number of other actors who are more than capable of playing the role and at the end of the day, I don't even care if the guy I like even gets the role. I just use this thread to have fun with fantasy casting (though some ruin it), passing time till whomever is picked next the don the red and blue.
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 06:41 AM
I'm expecting stuff to start ''leaking'' out anytime now..It just about has too if its gonna start filming in 6 months or so.
Slamet
12-31-2010, 06:48 AM
Cavill needs to be Superman
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No.
Superman needs Cavill for Superman reboot.
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 07:13 AM
No.
Superman needs Cavill for Superman reboot.
No,the movie doesnīt need him. :whatever:
Thatīs why I donīt want Cavill...because of all this insistence with him.
As if Cavill was the only one actor in the world!
This gives me anger.
Please,give me a break!
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 08:19 AM
Condition nš1 for me is ACTING. Nš2 is square jaw. The rest can be built up without problems (gym, height with lifts in the boots and cam tricks, blue contact lens). I'm tired of Wellings and Rouths and Cains in the Superman role that make him look like a dumb muscled gym pimp. Condition nš1 HAS to be ACTING this time around. If not then don't protest that nobody takes Supes seriously, because the only thing that makes an audience take a character seriously is a great performance, not how ripped and tall he is.
Condition nš1 for me is ACTING. Nš2 is square jaw. The rest can be built up without problems (gym, height with lifts in the boots and cam tricks, blue contact lens). I'm tired of Wellings and Rouths and Cains in the Superman role that make him look like a dumb muscled gym pimp. Condition nš1 HAS to be ACTING this time around. If not then don't protest that nobody takes Supes seriously, because the only thing that makes an audience take a character seriously is a great performance, not how ripped and tall he is.
Danny DeVito for Superman.
klark cent
12-31-2010, 08:39 AM
the triangulation can apply to many men who have been considered for this role, as can the strong jawline and cleft chins. however, Ricky Martin has a distinctly latino look while Cavill does not. not to mention their noses, their eyes...even their chins are different. the only thing they share is the slightly cleft chin and a masculine bone structure, which many other actors in this thread have suggested. again, i don't see how you thought of Ricky Martin when you looked at Cavill. they're about as similar looking as Dean Cain looks like Chris Reeve.
well, here it is...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/cavillsteelgaze.jpg
Hmmm, ok I see I bit there although not piercing enough due to his round puppy eyes but its a good start...
WTH? Why would you even bring up such an obscure, crappy character???
:doh: Don't lose your cool. It's just an example to illustrate what I have in mind base on how I view him (imho, Mon-El is not that crappy. It's just that nobody invested time to develop a story around him in Clark's early years.). I wish I can see Cavill the way other folks put him on a pedestal...
Danny DeVito for Superman.
:woot::woot::woot:
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 08:58 AM
Danny DeVito for Superman.
:whatever::whatever::whatever:
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 09:00 AM
Ridiculous to claim the Superman franchise "needs" any particular actor in the role or else. Its long history of different people wearing the suit says otherwise.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 09:12 AM
While I hadn't noticed that thing about the piercing and intense eyes/stares (nice one klark cent), I have to say that ever since Cavill was suggested, I found that his eyes/stare are perfect for Superman.
green
12-31-2010, 10:30 AM
Condition nš1 for me is ACTING. Nš2 is square jaw. The rest can be built up without problems (gym, height with lifts in the boots and cam tricks, blue contact lens). I'm tired of Wellings and Rouths and Cains in the Superman role that make him look like a dumb muscled gym pimp. Condition nš1 HAS to be ACTING this time around. If not then don't protest that nobody takes Supes seriously, because the only thing that makes an audience take a character seriously is a great performance, not how ripped and tall he is.
Not one but two :up::up:
HighFivingMF
12-31-2010, 10:30 AM
No,the movie doesnīt need him. :whatever:
Thatīs why I donīt want Cavill...because of all this insistence with him.
As if Cavill was the only one actor in the world!
This gives me anger.
Please,give me a break!
Unsubscribe.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 10:32 AM
So, wait... she hates Cavill because many support him? Wow.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 10:38 AM
God forbid somebody have an opinion different from others.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 10:42 AM
That's natural, obviously, but if you hate something merely because it's popular... well... I guess she hated Christian Bale back in '03-04, then.
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 10:43 AM
oh just wait until we hear the actual names that have a legit shot..then it will get real ugly.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 10:48 AM
There isn't this overwhelming majority support for Cavill like there was for Bale. Not even close. If people are going to bring up the "who fans want" argument, then they'd better be prepared to see Hamm, Routh and Welling dominant. And yet Warner Brothers' desire for Bale was a pure coincidence to support from fandom. Ice caking on the cake.
No amount of mancips postings will suddenly "turn" people. The studio has had his auditions/screen-tests collecting dust for years now.
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 10:49 AM
That's natural, obviously, but if you hate something merely because it's popular... well... I guess she hated Christian Bale back in '03-04, then.
Or in '02... basically Bale was the same thing as now Cavill... the absolute fan favorite. Problem is... Cavill lost his chance the moment McG didn't take that plane to Australia.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 10:53 AM
Or in '02... basically was the same thing with him back then as now with Cavill... absolute fan favorite. Problem is... he lost his chance the moment McG didn't take that plane to Australia.
Who are you talking about?
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 10:55 AM
There isn't this overwhelming majority support for Cavill like there was for Bale. Not even close. If people are going to bring up the "who fans want" argument, then they'd better be prepared to see Hamm, Routh and Welling dominant. And yet Warner Brothers' desire for Bale was a pure coincidence to support from fandom. Ice caking on the cake.
No amount of mancips postings will suddenly "turn" people. The studio has had his auditions/screen-tests collecting dust for years now.
Even so, not my point. If you hate X or Y or MOVIE_1 or MOVIE_@ because many others in a forum, country, wherever find it popular, it's just juvenile, of "I don't wanna!" proportions.
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 10:57 AM
Who are you talking about?
Edited...:o
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 10:59 AM
Edited...:o
Sorry, I'm still not getting you. Was Bale considered for something else in '02? Superman?
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 11:00 AM
Sorry, I'm still not getting you. Was Bale considered for something else in '02? Superman?
Aronofsky's Batman Year One... he was a fan favorite way before Nolan was even hired...
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 11:01 AM
Aronofsky's Batman Year One...
Aaaaah, I see. Didn't know that, thanks.
Majik1387
12-31-2010, 11:01 AM
Unsubscribe.
:yay::up:
oh just wait until we hear the actual names that have a legit shot..then it will get real ugly.
I'm excited for when that happens. :cwink:
There isn't this overwhelming majority support for Cavill like there was for Bale. Not even close. If people are going to bring up the "who fans want" argument, then they'd better be prepared to see Hamm, Routh and Welling dominant. And yet Warner Brothers' desire for Bale was a pure coincidence to support from fandom. Ice caking on the cake.
No amount of mancips postings will suddenly "turn" people. The studio has had his auditions/screen-tests collecting dust for years now.
That's why they would have him, along with other possible past candidates, re-audition for the role. It isn't the same exact people from years past still working on these movies.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 11:06 AM
Even so, not my point. If you hate X or Y or MOVIE_1 or MOVIE_@ because many others in a forum, country, wherever find it popular, it's just juvenile, of "I don't wanna!" proportions.
You seem to have no problems with the same couple of posters posting the same pictures of the same person multiple times and then proclaiming that it "proves they're the best and only choice." It gets annoying.
Once again, the same posters keep insisting Cavill is this insanely popular choice by everyone. When he isn't. By far.
klark cent
12-31-2010, 11:07 AM
oh just wait until we hear the actual names that have a legit shot..then it will get real ugly.
:up::up:
...got my popcorn ready when that happens :cwink:
hopefuldreamer
12-31-2010, 11:11 AM
:up::up:
...got my popcorn ready when that happens :cwink:
I'm sharpening my teeth and claws myself :oldrazz:
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 11:12 AM
You seem to have no problems with the same couple of posters posting the same pictures of the same person multiple times and then proclaiming that it "proves they're the best and only choice." It gets annoying.
Once again, the same posters keep insisting Cavill is this insanely popular choice by everyone. When he isn't. By far.
I have to admit that I only came back today on these boards, so I wouldn't know. The only "issue" I saw in the last 2 pages I read was the one we're talking about now. If I see someone saying that Cavill is the only choice, then I will certainly point out the hyperbole.
Strider14
12-31-2010, 11:20 AM
You seem to have no problems with the same couple of posters posting the same pictures of the same person multiple times and then proclaiming that it "proves they're the best and only choice." It gets annoying.
Once again, the same posters keep insisting Cavill is this insanely popular choice by everyone. When he isn't. By far.
Quoted for truth. I don't know where people get the idea that Cavill is the overwhelming, popular choice for Superman. In any of the polls I have seen he is generally down around 3-5 on the list, if that. He is the overwhelming favorite among Cavill fans just like Conway is the overwhelming favorite among Conway fans, Hamm is the overwhelming favorite among Hamm fans...etc. etc. :cwink:
jesusmagicka
12-31-2010, 11:24 AM
the triangulation can apply to many men who have been considered for this role, as can the strong jawline and cleft chins. however, Ricky Martin has a distinctly latino look while Cavill does not. not to mention their noses, their eyes...even their chins are different. the only thing they share is the slightly cleft chin and a masculine bone structure, which many other actors in this thread have suggested. again, i don't see how you thought of Ricky Martin when you looked at Cavill. they're about as similar looking as Dean Cain looks like Chris Reeve.
well, here it is...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/cavillsteelgaze.jpg
No, here it is:
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4700000/The-Tudors-Season-3-henry-cavill-4714553-967-1396.jpg
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:zFsvTFPUHz6u_M:http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcwNTM4NjA3NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTg5OTk1MQ@@._ V1._SX500_SY333_.jpg&t=1
http://tengossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/henry-cavill-blood-creek2-300x199.jpg
God, my heart just melted. *sigh*
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 11:24 AM
:up::up:
...got my popcorn ready when that happens :cwink:
And beer... don't forget beer... :o:up:
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 11:27 AM
That's why they would have him, along with other possible past candidates, re-audition for the role. It isn't the same exact people from years past still working on these movies.
If that's the case, then they'd have done so already with Cavill for Superman Returns. Which they didn't. Or George Miller's Justice League. Which they also didn't. Ditto Matt Bomer who Ratner wanted for his Superman film. He also wasn't brought back.
On the other hand, they did for Routh even though he was a top finalist for McG's version.
jesusmagicka
12-31-2010, 11:28 AM
On the other hand, they did for Routh even though he was a top finalist for McG's version.
Hire one of those hi-tech japanese sex robots. You'd get more emotion out of that than you would Routh.
Besides, we know McG sucks. And look how Singer's vision of Superman turned out. Why should we value their opinions?
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 11:29 AM
If that's the case, then they'd have done so already with Cavill for Superman Returns. Which they didn't. Or George Miller's Justice League. Which they also didn't. Ditto Matt Bomer who Ratner wanted for his Superman film. He also wasn't brought back.
On the other hand, they did for Routh even though he was a top finalist for McG's version.
Wouldn't be better to say that if Snyder really wants him or whoever else he'll cast him or whoever else? :o
PS: God... I'm annoying...:o
Majik1387
12-31-2010, 11:31 AM
If that's the case, then they'd have done so already with Cavill for Superman Returns. Which they didn't. Or George Miller's Justice League. Which they also didn't. Ditto Matt Bomer who Ratner wanted for his Superman film. He also wasn't brought back.
On the other hand, they did for Routh even though he was a top finalist for McG's version.
Not sure where you're getting your info from, but even if true, as you said, they re-auditioned Routh, so it wouldn't be out of place for them to do so again for Cavill or any other past candidate.
hopefuldreamer
12-31-2010, 11:33 AM
PS: God... I'm annoying...:o
Can I just say, your avatar just made my day :woot:
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 11:46 AM
Wouldn't be better to say that if Snyder really wants him or whoever else he'll cast him or whoever else? :o
If Snyder is writing the checks to pay for this, then yes. Too bad he isn't. It's the studio's decision. Not his. No matter what anyone says publicly.
Not sure where you're getting your info from, but even if true, as you said, they re-auditioned Routh, so it wouldn't be out of place for them to do so again for Cavill or any other past candidate.
They re-auditioned Routh because he was still on their radar. I.E. they liked him and opted to give him a second bite at the apple.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 11:49 AM
If Snyder is writing the checks to pay for this, then yes. Too bad he isn't. It's the studio's decision. Not his. No matter what anyone says publicly.
Are you saying that you believe Snyder will have limited creative control over the casting decision?
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 11:50 AM
If Snyder is writing the checks to pay for this, then yes. Too bad he isn't. It's the studio's decision. Not his. No matter what anyone says publicly.
They re-auditioned Routh because he was still on their radar. I.E. they liked him and opted to give him a second bite at the apple.
We better get used to Porter or Hammer then? Or someone similar? :o
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 11:54 AM
Are you saying that you believe Snyder will have limited creative control over the casting decision?
I'm saying this is going to be WB/Legendary's call, and not Synder's. He'll certainly have a say but they hired Synder, they're paying for this movie, thus they're ultimately going to make the decision.
Actors are forced on filmmakers all the time. So before anyone balks, realize this is common.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 11:59 AM
But you can't be sure.
redrover
12-31-2010, 12:02 PM
I believe the list already exists, but since it its around the holidays, things are quiet in hollywood, LA in general. I think we start hearing peeps late Tues or early Wends. Though I could just be hoping, and some of the names mentioned on this board will be on it, I bet even Porter's.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 12:05 PM
But you can't be sure.
Of course, I can.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 12:11 PM
Of course, I can.
How? I mean, of course, if the studio wants X and Snyder wants Y and nobody backs down, then the execs will pull rank and force X on Snyder. But can you be sure that they're not letting Snyder run most of the show?
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 12:12 PM
How? I mean, of course, if the studio wants X and Snyder wants Y and nobody backs down, then the execs will pull rank and force X on Snyder.
Just answered your own question.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 12:16 PM
Oh, in that regard, agreed.
Mostpowerful
12-31-2010, 12:21 PM
I really hope they announce who the next guy will be soon. Please.
Showtime
12-31-2010, 01:03 PM
Chace Crawford (CW's Gossip Girl), John Krasinski (NBC's The Office), Scott Porter (NBC's Friday Night Lights), Michael Cassidy (CW's Privileged) or Patrick Flueger (Brothers)Mike Vogel (Cloverfield) and Garrett Hedlund (Tron: Legacy).Channing Tatum (Gi Joe)
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
Alonsovich
12-31-2010, 01:20 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
Didn't Cassidy and Vogel also test for McG? And what about Hammer and Padalecki? See them as possible shortlist candidates?
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 01:24 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
Sounds like a bet.
KyleDW2
12-31-2010, 01:25 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
I have no idea who most of those people are. Thus, I am happy with the list.
DorkyFresh
12-31-2010, 01:26 PM
none of those actors excite me what-so-ever.
Gianakin_
12-31-2010, 01:27 PM
Hedlund is the best of the bunch, looks-wise and imo. But I must admit my bias towards anything Tron Legacy.
Project862006
12-31-2010, 01:30 PM
I'm saying this is going to be WB/Legendary's call, and not Synder's. He'll certainly have a say but they hired Synder, they're paying for this movie, thus they're ultimately going to make the decision.
Actors are forced on filmmakers all the time. So before anyone balks, realize this is common.
much like big names like keanu reeves ,jude law , Joaquin phoenix , hillary swank and Simon Pegg were thrown around for watchmen and look who we got
jesusmagicka
12-31-2010, 01:34 PM
much like big names like keanu reeves ,jude law , Joaquin phoenix , hillary swank and Simon Pegg were thrown around for watchmen and look who we got
Weren't those all before Snyder came aboard?
Project862006
12-31-2010, 01:35 PM
possible but i think jude law was rumored even when snyder was on board
C. Lee
12-31-2010, 01:36 PM
possible but i think jude law was rumored even when snyder was on board
But I think for a while there Jude Law was rumored to be up for every other movie being made.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 01:41 PM
possible but i think jude law was rumored even when snyder was on board
Law is a hardcore Watchmen junkie (full on crack-whore territory) and wanted to be play Ozymandias. Actually had active discussions with Paul Greengrass over it back when it was set up at Paramount back in 2006.
Man of Tomorrow
12-31-2010, 01:42 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
Yuck.
:dry:
Sad, but true.
DorkyFresh
12-31-2010, 01:42 PM
Law would be better as General Zod.
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 01:49 PM
Porter I could see ( didnt know he was 31 or 2)
Hedlund I could see as well.
As for as the debate over WB having the final say....I see it like this (no insiders here, just opinion) Snyder will have his list, wb will have theirs. They'll sit down and start removing names through auditions, etc..
when the list gets shortened, and it comes down to snyder or WB's guy, they'll be a compromise. WB will pick their guy, and they'll offer snyder another big project to smooth things over.
This isn't SR where the director gets to have free reign..it's BECAUSE of SR that this films production will be watched mighty closely by the suits...my opinion.
Eddie Dean
12-31-2010, 01:50 PM
I wouldn't mind giving Porter a chance, not too keen on the others.
Vogel or Hedlund could make a good Barry Allen though.
Strider14
12-31-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm saying this is going to be WB/Legendary's call, and not Synder's. He'll certainly have a say but they hired Synder, they're paying for this movie, thus they're ultimately going to make the decision.
Actors are forced on filmmakers all the time. So before anyone balks, realize this is common.
Once again...right on the money. That's how it typically works. It is very rare that a director has complete control over a movie. When it all comes down to it, those who write the check are going to make the call. Not saying there won't be discussion if there is disagreement, but you always look at where the buck stops.
As to the "list" that was just brought up again....let's keep in mind that was a "rumored" Cap list as a frame of reference for those that missed it earlier. None of that list would even remotely have a shot at Superman just based on not having the right look. Of course, that is just my opinion. :yay:
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 04:02 PM
So, wait... she hates Cavill because many support him? Wow.
This is the main reason...:woot: but not the only reason,of course.
5 reasons that I donīt want Cavill in the reboot
1-Because many support him(I canīt stand it anymore :csad:)
2-For me he does not look NOTHING with Superman.
3-He has baby face(who does not see it is blind...at the minimal !)
4-He does not have stature enough for the role
5-He is a too obvious choice now.
HighFivingMF
12-31-2010, 04:13 PM
2-For me he does not look NOTHING with Superman.
So, that double negative means he does look like Superman.
And one of your reasons is that he's an obvious choice? ... So? The casting of a movie isn't supposed to surprise you. Bale was a fan favorite when he got the part, it's not like people thought "THE KID FROM NEWSIES!? OHMYGOD!"
7heBoss
12-31-2010, 04:22 PM
This is the main reason...:woot: but not the only reason,of course.
5 reasons that I donīt want Cavill in the reboot
1-Because many support him(I canīt stand it anymore :csad:)
2-For me he does not look NOTHING with Superman.
3-He has baby face(who does not see it is blind...at the minimal !)
4-He does not have stature enough for the role
5-He is a too obvious choice now.
This post is so full of fail it baffles me. here i will sum up what you are trying to say... "I want Superman to be someone no one likes and i want this movie to be horrible."
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 04:35 PM
So, that double negative means he does look like Superman.
And one of your reasons is that he's an obvious choice? ... So? The casting of a movie isn't supposed to surprise you. Bale was a fan favorite when he got the part, it's not like people thought "THE KID FROM NEWSIES!? OHMYGOD!"
He does not look anything like Superman! Satisfied??
He is obvious because he has been suggested for many years.
At that time when Bale was favorite for the part of Batman, I had no pc ... and did not know that Bale had many supporters. Maybe if I knew that, would certainly have hated Bale too.
But fortunately it did not happen.
This post is so full of fail it baffles me. here i will sum up what you are trying to say... "I want Superman to be someone no one likes and i want this movie to be horrible."
Iīd want Superman to be someone who the people(the most) donīt expect because I like surprises.
I want Routh back for example,because he deserves another chance.
He was good in Returns despite the story didnīt help him.
Or someone unknown for the public in general because as I said once,I like surprises.
Nightwing1983
12-31-2010, 05:00 PM
He does not look anything like Superman! Satisfied??
He is obvious because he has been suggested for many years.
At that time when Bale was favorite for the part of Batman, I had no pc ... and did not know that Bale had many supporters. Maybe if I knew that, would certainly have hated Bale too.
But fortunately it did not happen.
Iīd want Superman to be someone who the people(the most) donīt expect because I like surprises.
I want Routh back for example,because he deserves another chance.
He was good in Returns despite the story didnīt help him.
Or someone unknown for the public in general because as I said once,I like surprises.
Danny DeVito as Superman.
Astrodust
12-31-2010, 05:01 PM
This is the main reason...:woot: but not the only reason,of course.
5 reasons that I donīt want Cavill in the reboot
1-Because many support him(I canīt stand it anymore :csad:)
2-For me he does not look NOTHING with Superman.
3-He has baby face(who does not see it is blind...at the minimal !)
4-He does not have stature enough for the role
5-He is a too obvious choice now.
I can accept that you don't care for Cavill. Even as a Cavill fan, some extremists are giving us a bad name. Though I have to admit reasons 1 and 5 are a little amusing. It's like giving up ice cream cause too many people like it.
At that time when Bale was favorite for the part of Batman, I had no pc ... and did not know that Bale had many supporters. Maybe if I knew that, would certainly have hated Bale too.
I can't understand this kind of mentality. You simply don't want want Cavill mainly because he's the most popular choice right now. Here you just said the same about Bale. If you had known beforehand that he was the popular choice, you wouldn't have wanted him then, even though you like him now.
I also know for a fact this is one of the main reasons why you don't want Catwoman in the next Batman film. Just because everyone loves someone for a role doesn't mean you should hate on them for that reason.
Project862006
12-31-2010, 05:54 PM
how does cavill have a baby face?
if you were taking about 2000-2004 Cavill i would agree
http://img.listal.com/image/97693/600full-henry-cavill.jpghttp://www.teenidols4you.com/blink/Actors/henry_cavill/henry_cavill_1221310122.jpg
But Not 2010 almost 2011 Cavill
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16000000/Henry-Cavill-henry-cavill-16080657-326-408.jpghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8403/fd5e45181fd7.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sEXr38bp0vo/TCo-EKHmXOI/AAAAAAAAAWg/U3diX5R6ucY/s1600/Charl+Gedwyn+-++Henry+Cavill.jpg
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 06:00 PM
I can't understand this kind of mentality. You simply don't want want Cavill mainly because he's the most popular choice right now. Here you just said the same about Bale. If you had known beforehand that he was the popular choice, you wouldn't have wanted him then, even though you like him now.
I also know for a fact this is one of the main reasons why you don't want Catwoman in the next Batman film. Just because everyone loves someone for a role doesn't mean you should hate on them for that reason.
I donīt want Cavill not only because he is popular.
I also have other reasons. Iīve listed 5 reasons,remember?
And I also donīt want Catwoman only because she is popular...itīs because I really dislike the character.
And,other thing: I did not say that when Bale was chosen for the Batman role, I already was crazy about him, then I could not hate him.
Iīm his fan since 2000.
I loved when Christian was the chosen one.
If I wasnīt his fan,I could have the same feeling for him as Cavill.
Project862006... I already said that with the beard he looks older,the beard disguises the baby face a little.
He virtually didnīt change almost anything through the years.
Project862006
12-31-2010, 06:15 PM
2 of the 3 pics have barely any facial hair but ok
Midnight Black
12-31-2010, 06:19 PM
I step away for a week and it seems the Cavill train hasn't lost any momentum lol. I guess I'll check back in 2011 lol.
DorkyFresh
12-31-2010, 06:20 PM
he's still being discussed so his popularity is still in tact. however, there are a few people that just don't like him for whatever reason.
whether he still has a chance at playing Superman, however, is up in the air.
C. Lee
12-31-2010, 06:35 PM
Danny DeVito as Superman.
I think he's a tad too old.
Nightwing1983
12-31-2010, 06:38 PM
I think he's a tad too old.
Ah. That must be it.
Silvermoth
12-31-2010, 06:41 PM
No, it's because he's already played a comic book character AND YOU CAN'T HAVE TEH SAME ACTOR PLAYING DIFFERENT PARTZ!!!!!1!!1
:o:cwink:
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 06:45 PM
This thread is fulla win.
Project862006
12-31-2010, 06:58 PM
is'nt danny devito a little tall for supes?
he has got to be pushed 6'8 - 6'9
Eddie Dean
12-31-2010, 07:00 PM
I like DeVito as an actor, but I just don't think he has the right jaw for Superman.
DorkyFresh
12-31-2010, 07:16 PM
Danny DeVito is ALMOST perfect...but his left eye is a millimeter too big and he's bit too masculine for Superman. also i'm not sure he's a bona fide American...and his tongue might be the wrong color.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 07:27 PM
He is out of actors who actually have a possibility of playing the role, because that excludes Brandon Routh and Tom Welling. When you take those two out, Cavill is the most popular.
Wrong. That would be Jon Hamm. Hell, Armie Hammer is also a more popular choice.
Wrong. That would be Jon Hamm. Hell, Armie Hammer is also a more popular choice.
Among the studio or among fans? Because support for Hamm died out a while ago and not many people mention Hammer anymore. Among fans, that is.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 07:32 PM
The difference is that Cavill wasn't 28 years old when those movies were made and he didn't have 2 lead roles in Hollywood movies under his belt. Hollywood loves frontrunners and they love new meat a.k.a. the "next big thing" and they love to create movie stars. That's already happening for Henry Cavill and WB is taking notice.
Also wrong. He was excluded because they don't want him. Your excuse also doesn't account for why Bomer was never reconsidered. He's now headlining a popular cable television series, and yet he's been off their radar for years too.
Couldn't be more obvious.
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Jon Hamm is very old for the role,Armie Hammer is very young and Henry Cavill...(well,I already said a million times)
I donīt approve none of these 3.
And if not Routh coming back,I think itīs better an unknown.
An unknown with dark hair,blue eyes,with a SuperMANīs face,tall,athletic,charismatic,with presence and talented.
Project862006
12-31-2010, 07:35 PM
^ you liked routh
and you call cavill a baby face LOL
not to mention you liked TVW for supes as well
ok i am done with this conversation lets move on
Midnight Black
12-31-2010, 07:36 PM
Daniel Cudmore, really? Oh boy 2011 is going to be a long year lol.
DorkyFresh
12-31-2010, 07:43 PM
Jon Hamm is very old for the role,Armie Hammer is very young and Henry Cavill...(well,I already said a million times)
I donīt approve none of these 3.
And if not Routh coming back,I think itīs better an unknown.
An unknown with dark hair,blue eyes,with a SuperMANīs face,tall,athletic,charismatic,with presence and talented.
you've just described my preference...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/Spencerman-3.jpg
:D
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 07:45 PM
you've just described my preference...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/Spencerman-3.jpg
:D
:barf:
And after...
I said UNKNOWN! :D
Henry Cavill is unknown??
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Project862006
12-31-2010, 07:48 PM
daniel cudmore & travis van winkle are your preferred choices both of them have the acting talent of channing tatum lol
Kokomo29
12-31-2010, 07:50 PM
Also wrong. He was excluded because they don't want him. Your excuse also doesn't account for why Bomer was never reconsidered. He's now headlining a popular cable television series, and yet he's been off their radar for years too.
Couldn't be more obvious.
So, Jamie - I haven't been really keeping track of this thread too much, but I was reading over your statement and I was wondering if you could clarify what you meant by "Couldn't be more obvious".
Personally I wonder if WB has already chosen an actor. My gut says it's either gonna be Armie Hammer or someone totally outta left field.
BrlntDsgse
12-31-2010, 07:55 PM
:barf:
And after...
I said UNKNOWN! :D
Henry Cavill is unknown??
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ummm....that's CLEARLY not Cavill, it's Spencer Conway.
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 08:01 PM
^ you liked routh
and you call cavill a baby face LOL
not to mention you liked TVW for supes as well
ok i am done with this conversation lets move on
Brandon Routh at least is ***ing gorgeous and looks like Reeve! :woot:
Henry Cavill is just a cute guy,nothing else than that.
And Travis is hotter than him and as Routh, he looks like Reeve. :woot:
daniel cudmore & travis van winkle are your preferred choices both of them have the acting talent of channing tatum lol
And Daniel Cudmore is so far more Superman than Cavill.
He doesnīt have baby face. :woot:
And as I said before it doesnīt help anything the guy be a good actor if he does not look like the character,doesnīt have stature and have baby face. :woot:
Guys,stop that please.
You can say anything in Cavillīs defense that will not convince me to become a Cavillīs supporter.
Itīs a total waste of time.
I already have my opinion about him and I wonīt change.
Good trying. :woot:
Ummm....that's CLEARLY not Cavill, it's Spencer Conway.
Oh sorry I thought it was him! :woot:
My apologies. :cwink:
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 08:04 PM
Cudmore is waaaay too big for supes..Maybe as a villain tho, I could see that.
Majik1387
12-31-2010, 08:05 PM
I think he's a tad too old.
He can't play Superman, he's too comedic of an actor. :whatever:
Project862006
12-31-2010, 08:06 PM
Brandon Routh at least is ***ing gorgeous and looks like Reeve! :woot:
Henry Cavill is just a cute guy,nothing else than that.
And Travis is hotter than him and as Routh, he looks like Reeve. :woot:
And Daniel Cudmore is so far more Superman than Cavill.
He doesnīt have baby face. :woot:
And as I said before it doesnīt help anything the guy be a good actor if he does not look like the character,doesnīt have stature and have baby face. :woot:
Guys,stop that please.
You can say anything in Cavillīs defense that will not convince me to become a Cavillīs supporter.
Itīs a total waste of time.
I already have my opinion about him and I wonīt change.
Good trying. :woot:
Oh sorry I thought it was him! :woot:
My apologies. :cwink:
oh god i feel like i am on a twilight board
Majik1387
12-31-2010, 08:09 PM
oh god i feel like i am on a twilight board
Superman does have to be handsome, that's non-negotiable. :cmad:
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 08:10 PM
mournful, longing, stare.....
Project862006
12-31-2010, 08:11 PM
and cavill is handsome
i am not saying supes should be ugly but saying you like this guy over cavill because he is hotter is damn ridiculous
now i am not trying to say you have to love cavill but your reasons for not are iffy
Majik1387
12-31-2010, 08:12 PM
Guys,stop that please.
You can say anything in Cavillīs defense that will not convince me to become a Cavillīs supporter.
Itīs a total waste of time.
I already have my opinion about him and I wonīt change.
Good trying. :woot:
Understandable that it's annoying for people to try to convince you otherwise, but maybe you can turn off your unwarranted blind hatred for him anytime he is mentioned, because then you go and say this:
:barf:
And after...
I said UNKNOWN! :D
Henry Cavill is unknown??
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
when it isn't even him in the picture/manip, which makes you look like nothing more than a dead horse beating troll.
GreenKToo
12-31-2010, 08:15 PM
and cavill is handsome
i am not saying supes should be ugly but saying you like this guy over cavill because he is hotter is damn ridiculous
now i am not trying to say you have to love cavill but your reasons for not are iffy
haha (snort).....lol. I have my suspicions as well.
C. Lee
12-31-2010, 08:38 PM
Whaaaaat?!
I thought you would be off doing some professional directing instead of wasting your time and life doing something as unimportant as arguing on a message board.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Whaaaaat?! I don't know where you're getting your information from, but I think all rational, half-way-intelligent people on this board will be able to see the absurdity and contradictions in your opinions.
Headlining a cable television series is not even in the same ballpark as a leading role in a Hollywood movie. Otherwise, Tony Shaloub would be considered for Superman and Brad Pitt would be on the USA Network. Give me a break.
And I don't know where you're pulling the Hamm/Hammer claim from. It's like you just crawled out of a cave. I think you're full of ham.
This guy's a joke.
Very much looking forward to your next excuse when Cavill isn't cast.
BrlntDsgse
12-31-2010, 08:47 PM
I thought you would be off doing some professional directing instead of wasting your time and life doing something as unimportant as arguing on a message board.
:pal: :applaud: :lmao:
Get 'im C. Lee....get 'im
:barf:
And after...
I said UNKNOWN! :D
Henry Cavill is unknown??
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Depends what the definition of unknown is, Cavill isn't a big name so technically he is a nobody to the general public.
Wrong. That would be Jon Hamm. Hell, Armie Hammer is also a more popular choice.
Among who? The majority of fans? If so your wrong I feel, but admittedly Jon Hamm isn't that far behind but he definatly isn't a more popular choice than Henry Cavill.
If you exclude Tom Welling & Brandon Routh who seem to be miles ahead in terms of popularity for the role, the most popular 4 names you'll see come up in 90% of internet polls regarding the casting are: Henry Cavill, Matthew Bomer, Joe Manganiello & Jon Hamm.
Armie Hammer is often found in the same category as people like Jared Padalecki, which is just outside of the 'fan favourites' but not exactly an unpopular choice.
Jon Hamm is suffering from the same problem that Jim Caviezel had in 2005. Yes he has a good support for the role, but ultimately alot of people look at him & think he looks too old.. which actually leads him to have nearly just as many supporters as naysayers which I don't think is the case with alot of other actors mentioned.
BrlntDsgse
12-31-2010, 08:54 PM
Hey, what up, C. Lee? Happy New Year to you, too, buddy. I'm actually finished with the Sy-Fy Channel original movie I just directed -- thank you for asking -- and I'm busy promoting it at the moment. Since it's New Year's Eve, I have the night off and I'm toggling between a party and chatting with my fellow Hollywood insiders who are trying to claim that Jon Hamm is the most popular choice for Superman, hahaha! Hope all is well with you. Happy new year!
^fixed
BTW, since you're such a Hollywood "insider".......do you happen to post over on AintItCool News under the name JettL93, lol.
Cudmore is waaaay too big for supes..Maybe as a villain tho, I could see that.
I don't actually mind his look for the role but as you said he actually might be one of the rare cases in which an actor is simply too big in terms of height for the part.. what is he 6'7 isn't it?
Although I'm sure if he got the part they could work round it, like have the people around him stand on platforms :D
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 08:55 PM
I'll be laughing when Henry Cavill's announced as the next Superman. You just don't like him, so you're constructing fake reasons why he's not in consideration, but in fact, you're not an insider at all. I'll see you on the flip side, "insider," laughing all the way there.
Oh that's right. "You're a director." So you would know. Amusing. Since you've broken so many other things here in the past. In your mind, you did at least.
Do everyone a favor. Don't say anything else until you actually know what you're talking about. Thus we'll never hear from you again.
Matt Mortem
12-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Wow, this thread is just as crazy as ever
Project862006
12-31-2010, 09:12 PM
LOL
no one is favored over another some like cavill some like routh some like weliing,etc.
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 09:17 PM
Wow, this thread is just as crazy as ever
Trolls like him come and go. No biggie. You shoulda been over at the Spider-Man forum last year when that fat-retard sPiDeRmAn2o29 was trolling. Talk about a mental case.
BrlntDsgse
12-31-2010, 09:21 PM
Oh that's right. "You're a director." So you would know. Amusing. Since you've broken so many other things here in the past. In your mind, you did at least.
Do everyone a favor. Don't say anything else until you actually know what you're talking about. Thus we'll never hear from you again.
No, dude, he's the real deal.......he just told me yesterday, on good authority, that.......get this......(I hope you're sitting down)...Eartha Kitt is going to replace Julie Newmar as Catwoman on the next season of Batman. No joking, you can look for the official annoncement coming soon.
Matt Mortem
12-31-2010, 09:35 PM
I have complete faith in the filmmakers and studio to pick a decent superman. No sense in getting worked up over a maybe
Matt Mortem
12-31-2010, 09:36 PM
Trolls like him come and go. No biggie. You shoulda been over at the Spider-Man forum last year when that fat-retard sPiDeRmAn2o29 was trolling. Talk about a mental case.
They are true entertainment :awesome:
Nightwing1983
12-31-2010, 10:25 PM
This board seems to be amped up on feelings of superiority, a lot of jokes and insults at my expense. I've noticed that, whenever people really don't like what someone else is saying, they call them a "troll." FilmNerdJamie, you came in here with ridiculous opinions that you attempted to ground in fact, claiming that because of previous screen tests, WB has no interest in Henry Cavill. Well that sounds all smart and insider-y, but I simply called you out on your bull**** and now you're pissed. People often get pissed when someone else dismantles their feeble opinions using logical, concrete reasoning, because logical reasoning is inarguable and that's annoying to people who are trying to make arguments that they know in their heart are emotional and unsound.
All I'm saying is, you guys who pretend to have inside information... don't have it. Neither do I. I'm making predictions based on my knowledge, which is based in reality, that Henry Cavill is a hot up-and-coming actor who is getting Hollywood's attention. You can choose to claim that a 40-year-old actor with a permanent 5 o'clock shadow is the most popular choice for Superman, but that has no basis in reality. That's a distortion in order to make your biased opinions seem real. And by the way, I'm not a "quote" director, I'm an actual director. I don't do Sci-Fi channel movies (thank god), but I'm not A-list either. I'm just a guy who knows movies and sees reality.
You can make fun of me if you want to, but all that does is give you a very fleeting ego boost and make yourselves feel better about your own lives by blindly insulting mine. I'm not putting you down, I hope that all of you are happy and successful people. I hope we all have a wonderful New Year's Eve, have a great year and that we all get to see some great movies in 2011. Cheers.
I'm not gonna take sides in this; but I've been going through this sort-of thing with a certain insider-wannabe, so I know what you're saying.
C. Lee
12-31-2010, 10:26 PM
Hey, what up, C. Lee? Happy New Year to you, too, buddy. I'm actually finished with the film I just directed -- thank you for asking -- and I'm busy promoting it at the moment. Since it's New Year's Eve, I have the night off and I'm toggling between a party and chatting with my fellow Hollywood insiders who are trying to claim that Jon Hamm is the most popular choice for Superman, hahaha! Hope all is well with you. Happy new year!
Well...first things first...I'm not your buddy.
Second....I wasn't asking about your imaginary film....I was being sarcastic because I don't believe you are a professional director.
Third....still considering whether you are a full blown troll or only a T. I. T. (troll in training).
Fourth.....I'm not a Hollywood insider, and never said or hinted anything to that effect, and as I have said in here before....I don't give a good damn who gets the part. I'm just here to keep an eye on and put a squash on things like trolls.
C. Lee
12-31-2010, 10:37 PM
This board seems to be amped up on feelings of superiority, a lot of jokes and insults at my expense. I've noticed that, whenever people really don't like what someone else is saying, they call them a "troll." FilmNerdJamie, you came in here with ridiculous opinions that you attempted to ground in fact, claiming that because of previous screen tests, WB has no interest in Henry Cavill. Well that sounds all smart and insider-y, but I simply called you out on your bull**** and now you're pissed. People often get pissed when someone else dismantles their feeble opinions using logical, concrete reasoning, because logical reasoning is inarguable and that's annoying to people who are trying to make arguments that they know in their heart are emotional and unsound.
All I'm saying is, you guys who pretend to have inside information... don't have it. Neither do I. I'm making predictions based on my knowledge, which is based in reality, that Henry Cavill is a hot up-and-coming actor who is getting Hollywood's attention. You can choose to claim that a 40-year-old actor with a permanent 5 o'clock shadow is the most popular choice for Superman, but that has no basis in reality. That's a distortion in order to make your biased opinions seem real. And by the way, I'm not a "quote" director, I'm an actual director. I don't do Sci-Fi channel movies (thank god), but I'm not A-list either. I'm just a guy who knows movies and sees reality.
You can make fun of me if you want to, but all that does is give you a very fleeting ego boost and make yourselves feel better about your own lives by blindly insulting mine. I'm not putting you down, I hope that all of you are happy and successful people. I hope we all have a wonderful New Year's Eve, have a great year and that we all get to see some great movies in 2011. Cheers.
Just in case you think my last post was me acting superior and being mad because you dissed my choice for Superman...let me restate this....I don't have a choice for Superman and have never said I did and go out of my way to remind people that I don't have a choice. My last post was because you came here yesterday and insulted 99.999% of the posters here...which makes you trollish in my opinion.
baleheadbrasil
12-31-2010, 10:42 PM
Henry Cavill( hell,no), Matthew Bomer(no!),Joe Manganiello(no,he looks like a latin) & Jon Hamm(His only problem is the age. If he was younger I would support him)
My top 5 choices:
1-Brandon Routh again
2-Some rare unknown as I said before
3-Daniel Cudmore(his biggest problems are the stature,he is too tall-but there are tricks to disguise it,I think-and because his talent is questionable. But itīs not his fault,I think itīs because he still didnīt have opportunity to play something bigger,a main character to show his capacity. If it was written in the script that he had to "getting dumb and silent exit",is his fault? No. So,I would give a chance for him,Iīd gave him an audition.
4-Harmon Walsh
5-Travis Van Twinkle
Michael Trucco was always in my top 5,but I had to eliminate him because of his age. Itīs a pity. Heīd be a great Superman. :(
FilmNerdJamie
12-31-2010, 11:07 PM
This board seems to be amped up on feelings of superiority, a lot of jokes and insults at my expense. I've noticed that, whenever people really don't like what someone else is saying, they call them a "troll." FilmNerdJamie, you came in here with ridiculous opinions that you attempted to ground in fact, claiming that because of previous screen tests, WB has no interest in Henry Cavill. Well that sounds all smart and insider-y, but I simply called you out on your bull**** and now you're pissed. People often get pissed when someone else dismantles their feeble opinions using logical, concrete reasoning, because logical reasoning is inarguable and that's annoying to people who are trying to make arguments that they know in their heart are emotional and unsound.
All I'm saying is, you guys who pretend to have inside information... don't have it. Neither do I. I'm making predictions based on my knowledge, which is based in reality, that Henry Cavill is a hot up-and-coming actor who is getting Hollywood's attention. You can choose to claim that a 40-year-old actor with a permanent 5 o'clock shadow is the most popular choice for Superman, but that has no basis in reality. That's a distortion in order to make your biased opinions seem real. And by the way, I'm not a "quote" director, I'm an actual director. I don't do Sci-Fi channel movies (thank god), but I'm not A-list either. I'm just a guy who knows movies and sees reality.
You can make fun of me if you want to, but all that does is give you a very fleeting ego boost and make yourselves feel better about your own lives by blindly insulting mine. I'm not putting you down, I hope that all of you are happy and successful people. I hope we all have a wonderful New Year's Eve, have a great year and that we all get to see some great movies in 2011. Cheers.
Posters disregarding and/or making fun of you is 100% of your own doing thanks to your trollish posts. Like this:
This is the most absurd, sad, depressing logic I've ever heard. Do you have that little going on in your life that this is actually worthy of your time?
This entire message board is questionable as it is because all of you will have no impact whatsoever on who's actually cast, so you'll spend years poring over every actor you've seen in every cancelled B-level Sci-Fi Channel drama, his nose, his muscles, his fingernails, his knee caps, he's not tall enough, he's too tall, his nose looks funny from a certain angle, he's too well known, he's not well known enough, I don't like his voice, he's not as good as Routh 'cause Routh is the greatest actor to ever live, he's too sissy, he's too manly, he has a mole on his left foot that's too big, no that mole's not big enough, he doesn't have the proper shoulder width, yeah that's right, shoulder width, the public won't believe he's Superman if he doesn't have the proper frame, he's 6'2", muscular, has black hair, blue eyes, a square jaw, perfect features, but his frame isn't right, oh well, we tried.
Then some director's going to come in and make the decision in 5 minutes that you guys spent years of your life droning on about and that director doesn't even know you exist nor does he care. All he cares about is what he thinks. So you might as well just sit and wait until an actual decision is announced or talk about the man who's going to end up getting the role, which is Henry Cavill. Or you can keep talking about Brandon Von Routh Winkle or whatever that guy's name is.
Also, this is one movie, people. One movie in the history of movies, and the chances are it's not even going to be a good movie! You all spent years talking about Superman Returns and now nobody even remembers that movie exists. It's fallen off the face of the earth and will never come back, much like the time you all spent dissecting it. Why not go spend that time more wisely? Spend it with your families, write a book, learn Japanese, go for a run, learn how to cook, or god forbid, if you have this much passion for superheros or movies or whatever it may be, go make a movie! Or create your own superhero. They all have the same pattern anyway, it's called the hero pattern. Use that structure to create a new one that will become the Superman of 100 years from now! Draw that character into a comic book. Oh, you don't know how to draw? Well, how long are you planning to live? Probably long enough to learn how to draw. Go do it! Go be productive, go accomplish things, become better people. Get off of this message board! It's wasting your lives. When you're on your deathbed, are you going to saying to yourself "I wish I spent more time on Superhero Hype"? Whatever it is that you're actually going to be saying to yourself, go do it!
Ironic.
Your boy Cavill was rejected by WB years ago when he was, by everyone's admission, McG's pick. Yet less than a year later Routh (who lost out to Cavill) was brought back in to for new tests on Superman Returns, and Cavill wasn't. When George Miller was looking for a Superman for Justice League, Cavill also wasn't brought back.
Ironic that you keep harping on "reality." Because reality (not to mention, logic, common sense, etc.) says a guy who was rejected once and then ignored two other times isn't "the frontrunner."
Oh, but he's starring in two movies? Good for him. That makes his chances better...how? Routh never starred in a movie before Superman and that didn't hurt him from getting cast. Ditto Chris Reeve. Also the little matter of the next Supes will be secured well before either of Cavill's films are released.
You keep insisting Cavill is the most popular non-Routh/Welling choice. Just you essentially saying, "NU-UH! He is the most popular!" Ironic because a good chunk of fans don't know who he is. Co-starring on a Showtime series and getting a supporting role in a (truthfully terrible) Woody Allen movie didn't exactly make him a house-hold name for fans. On the other hand, there is evidence (multitudes of articles, polls, comments, etc.) that say Hamm is a very popular choice among fans. When those rumors surfaced of his potential candidacy, the reception was overwhelmingly positive.
So shocking as this sounds. You haven't proven anything or "called me out." As I said (and apparently I'm not the only one), you're a troll (or "director!") Your kind won't last long here.
Jake Cassidy
01-01-2011, 12:10 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were on a list for actors in consideration for Superman.
Chace Crawford
Scott Porter
Michael Cassidy
Mike Vogel
Garret Hedlund
If this happens, people are going to be begging for Cavill. :woot:
Out of them, I wouldn't mind Hedlund, but I think he'd fit better as Aquaman. Porter and Vogel are more suited to Flash.
Project862006
01-01-2011, 12:34 AM
WB Passing on screen test of cavill several years ago means nothing tho
if dougray scott never did mission impossible II hugh jackman never would of been wolverine
Kokomo29
01-01-2011, 12:41 AM
I really wanna post who my pick is, but the fact of the matter is... this thread scares me *runs away*
Majik1387
01-01-2011, 12:43 AM
I really wish people wouldn't bother referencing the failed Miller JL movie as how the studio would cast Superman. If you look at their casting list, none of the other casting possibilities from past Superman films were on the go to list either, so that really doesn't count against Cavill anymore than it does for the other past candidates.
As for supes44's supposed directorial job, I call bull****, because if he truly did just finish a movie, he wouldn't have time or patience to deal with internet fanboys(no offense to any here), especially if he was at a New Year's Eve party. A true director doesn't have the night off, anyone in the industry knows that. And especially if he's promoting it; if he truly were, he would at least make mention of his work here.
I also wouldn't pay any kind of mind to the former Captain America candidates, whether for fun or not.
Gin_Guilt
01-01-2011, 12:55 AM
It just occured to me that Jon Hamm would do a perfect Hal Jordan.
just saying.
batman44
01-01-2011, 12:59 AM
What the heck happned to this thread? Anyway, James Wolk?
GreenKToo
01-01-2011, 01:40 AM
Ok guys....i've been inspired to come out, i'm really George Lucas. No neck jokes please.
batman44
01-01-2011, 02:04 AM
I think we will find out who is playing Superman...THIS YEAR!!
Strider14
01-01-2011, 04:24 AM
This board seems to be amped up on feelings of superiority, a lot of jokes and insults at my expense. I've noticed that, whenever people really don't like what someone else is saying, they call them a "troll." FilmNerdJamie, you came in here with ridiculous opinions that you attempted to ground in fact, claiming that because of previous screen tests, WB has no interest in Henry Cavill. Well that sounds all smart and insider-y, but I simply called you out on your bull**** and now you're pissed. People often get pissed when someone else dismantles their feeble opinions using logical, concrete reasoning, because logical reasoning is inarguable and that's annoying to people who are trying to make arguments that they know in their heart are emotional and unsound.
All I'm saying is, you guys who pretend to have inside information... don't have it. Neither do I. I'm making predictions based on my knowledge, which is based in reality, that Henry Cavill is a hot up-and-coming actor who is getting Hollywood's attention. You can choose to claim that a 40-year-old actor with a permanent 5 o'clock shadow is the most popular choice for Superman, but that has no basis in reality. That's a distortion in order to make your biased opinions seem real. And by the way, I'm not a "quote" director, I'm an actual director. I don't do Sci-Fi channel movies (thank god), but I'm not A-list either. I'm just a guy who knows movies and sees reality.
You can make fun of me if you want to, but all that does is give you a very fleeting ego boost and make yourselves feel better about your own lives by blindly insulting mine. I'm not putting you down, I hope that all of you are happy and successful people. I hope we all have a wonderful New Year's Eve, have a great year and that we all get to see some great movies in 2011. Cheers.
Umm...there's a big difference between someone who is a hot and up-and-coming Hollywood actor and those that happen to be popular choices for the role of Superman. Most polls I have seen show Cavill down on the list, so it doesn't matter how "hot" you think he is, he is not as popular of a choice. One could actually also argue that Hamm is a much hotter commodity in Hollywood based on his recent film, The Town...Sucker Punch being released and his starring on one of the hottest shows on cable. I would venture to say he is much more popular than Cavill. It would seem your reality is a little skewed. I do know that FilmNerdJamie has a good handle on what goes on in the industry and would trust what he says over someone who claims that people that post on these forums have no life, yet comes on here and posts on this forum. Somewhat contradictory?
...and it would be tough to do Sci Fi movies being it hasn't been called the Sci Fi Channel for quite some time now. :cwink: Those that aren't even involved in the industry are pretty much aware of that.
Astrodust
01-01-2011, 04:39 AM
Wow things are getting ugly considering it's 2011. Happy year! Just a thought. New Superman movie can be a character piece( to a degree) or a straight up action film with minimal acting( aka 300) Anyways that plays a part in how they want to approach Superman. Anyways a little buzzed right now have to admit. But I doubt they would go 100% 300. Anyways I think the Superman reboot will end up cool regardless. Peace on Earth.
GinsterHead
01-01-2011, 07:22 AM
God, I hope they pick somebody soon. I'm fed up of all these pointless arguments about Cavill's height, or Bomer's height and sexuality, or Hamm's height and age, or Cudmore's height and acting ability, or Hammer's height and resemblance to the character, or Manganiello's ethnicity and the shape of his nose, or Van Winkle's height and acting roles, or whether or not WB are just going to pick somebody who looks even less like Superman than Cavill, Bomer, Hamm, Cudmore, Hammer, Manganiello and Van Winkle, or...GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH.:doh:
Alonsovich
01-01-2011, 08:14 AM
Or maybe Goyer wrote a script about how Supes impacts the world around him and there's not even a glimpse at Supes in the movie, thus not needing to even cast a Superman and this thread being totally pointless...:o
PS: happy annoying new year....:woot:
Gianakin_
01-01-2011, 08:19 AM
Is Cavill really up and coming, though? He's really an obscurity as of now.
I think we will find out who is playing Superman...THIS YEAR!!
I think you're right.
Why cant you all just get along? Just sit back, respect eachother's opinions and wait for the announcements as they come out. It's real easy and stressless...
gillberg2k1
01-01-2011, 09:06 AM
Cavill has a lot of politics working against him right now.
From what I can see, I'm getting a lot of angry vibes from people who may not want to accept the reality of the situation. To preface this, I think he's got a great look that lends itself to the updated version they're portraying. I don't think he's a terrible actor either (though certainly not as great as some make him out to be). I would also support him if he were cast.
Having said that, Jamie seems to be spot on here, and I can honestly say through my conversations and interactions with those who would know, that I don't believe Cavill is in any sort of serious contention for the role. If he were to be cast tomorrow, it would be shocking for numerous reasons. This is a corporate/studio thing and as reasonable of a choice as I think he is, I just don't see how Cavill can happen.
Hamm, (who is just as unrealistic of a choice for different reasons), comes up far more often in conversation than Cavill, who was practically forgotten about after the McG project was scrapped.
Your boy Cavill was rejected by WB years ago when he was, by everyone's admission, McG's pick. Yet less than a year later Routh (who lost out to Cavill) was brought back in to for new tests on Superman Returns, and Cavill wasn't. When George Miller was looking for a Superman for Justice League, Cavill also wasn't brought back.
Ironic that you keep harping on "reality." Because reality (not to mention, logic, common sense, etc.) says a guy who was rejected once and then ignored two other times isn't "the frontrunner."
I don't want to get in the middle of your pissing contest with supes44..
However, Cavill wasn't rejected by WB. He was attached to McG's Superman: Flyby into pre-production to the point were he was doing suit fittings/design, he was still attached right up until the point when McG dropped out of the project blaming, I'm 99% sure, the fact that WB wanted the film shot in Australia. It was just another case of the film just didn't happen because of script concerns, shooting locations, budget issues etc from WB just like the several other projects before this. I'm sure McG didn't drop out of that film because Henry Cavill was rejected in the lead role by WB..
Then Bryan Singer, viewed McG auditions, spotted Routh among others including Cavill no doubt, liked what he saw invited him, cast him, made his film, end of story. One director cast Cavill, the other cast Routh.. it was all down to preference & what each director was looking for, nothing more.
In regards to George Miller's proposed JLA film, Routh was the current big screen Superman & was overlooked completely in favour of D.J. Cotrona.. as was Christian Bale's Batman in favour of whoever.. Armie Hammer wasn't it? Cavill was rumored again for both parts but from from what I understand they were only rumors, he didn't goto any of the auditions.
You also had Ratner's proposed Superman tossed somewhere in the middle of all that mess & he reportedly prefared Matthew Bomer for the part.
Point being, people like Cavill & Hamm are only frontrunners in fanboy's minds. At the end of the day the only person/people with opinions that matter in regards to who is cast is mainly Snyder, possibly Nolan & WB.
Alonsovich
01-01-2011, 09:57 AM
I don't want to get in the middle of your pissing contest with supes44..
However, Cavill wasn't rejected by WB. He was attached to McG's Superman: Flyby into pre-production to the point were he was doing suit fittings/design, he was still attached right up until the point when McG dropped out of the project blaming, I'm 99% sure, the fact that WB wanted the film shot in Australia. It was just another case of the film just didn't happen because of script concerns, shooting locations, budget issues etc from WB just like the several other projects before this. I'm sure McG didn't drop out of that film because Henry Cavill was rejected in the lead role by WB..
Then Bryan Singer, viewed McG auditions, spotted Routh among others including Cavill no doubt, liked what he saw invited him, cast him, made his film, end of story. One director cast Cavill, the other cast Routh.. it was all down to preference & what each director was looking for, nothing more.
In regards to George Miller's proposed JLA film, Routh was the current big screen Superman & was overlooked completely in favour of D.J. Cotrona.. as was Christian Bale's Batman in favour of whoever.. Armie Hammer wasn't it? Cavill was rumored again for both parts but from from what I understand they were only rumors, he didn't goto any of the auditions.
You also had Ratner's proposed Superman tossed somewhere in the middle of all that mess & he reportedly prefared Matthew Bomer for the part.
Point being, people like Cavill & Hamm are only frontrunners in fanboy's minds. At the end of the day the only person/people with opinions that matter in regards to who is cast is mainly Snyder, possibly Nolan & WB.
I'm not pro-Cavill, but in all fairness... he was overlooked by Bryan Singer for SR... but he WAS cast based on those audition tapes for Singer's never made Logan's Run remake that was ALSO at WB, so I don't quite understand the studio politics bit. If he had the studio against him why would they allow him to be cast on another film of theirs?
Strider14
01-01-2011, 10:36 AM
Well, as to the Cavill situation, he did audition for the role of Superman in SR and was rejected by WB. No matter how it is rationalized he was turned down for the part.
What Gillberg2k1 said above is pretty spot on.
dark_b
01-01-2011, 10:41 AM
I'm not pro-Cavill, but in all fairness... he was overlooked by Bryan Singer for SR... but he WAS cast based on those audition tapes for Singer's never made Logan's Run remake that was ALSO at WB, so I don't quite understand the studio politics bit. If he had the studio against him why would they allow him to be cast on another film of theirs?its nto like WB is against him as a human and want him die. they just dont want Cavill as superman end of story.
its nto like WB is against him as a human and want him die. they just dont want Cavill as superman end of story.
I'd have absolutely no trouble whatsoever accepting this if there was even a wiff of evidence that suggests this is the case, thus far the only claim that semi-backs it up is that he was overlooked for the role in other respective Superman projects.. but ultimately that means next to nothing.
Brandon Routh was overlooked by McG/Ratner & it didn't effect him being cast as Singer's Superman.. didn't he also screentest for Smallville when they were searching for a young Clark Kent? The Smallville one might have been an internet rumor so I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate, however I've never read or heard anyone actually ask him about it so I've never heard a denial from him.. although I'm sure if someone has they'll quickly correct me. :huh:
gillberg2k1
01-01-2011, 11:36 AM
I'd have absolutely no trouble whatsoever accepting this if there was even a wiff of evidence that suggests this is the case, thus far the only claim that semi-backs it up is that he was overlooked for the role in other respective Superman projects.. but ultimately that means next to nothing.
It's not that he was overlooked, but the fact that he was purposefully not included in those studio short lists, for whatever reason(s).
Again, I do support the guy, but it's not likely that it's going to happen. They have their reasons, and no amount of wishing or hoping is going to change that.
batman44
01-01-2011, 11:44 AM
On the subject of Cavill. I'm just gonna take Gill, Show, and Jamie's word for it...next person.
Sub-Zero
01-01-2011, 12:16 PM
after reading superman earth one, i started to think that maybe wb wouldn't be looking for a guy who's over 6', or even that huge. in the comic superman was like a guy of average height. so actors who are 5'8" or taller may be be considered too.
Strider14
01-01-2011, 12:18 PM
its nto like WB is against him as a human and want him die. they just dont want Cavill as superman end of story.
I'd have absolutely no trouble whatsoever accepting this if there was even a wiff of evidence that suggests this is the case, thus far the only claim that semi-backs it up is that he was overlooked for the role in other respective Superman projects.. but ultimately that means next to nothing.
I don't get it, B. Cavill auditioned and was on the short list for the role of Superman in SR. He didn't get the role, thus WB didn't see him as right for the part. What more do you need to know?:huh:
That-Guy
01-01-2011, 12:41 PM
God, I hope they pick somebody soon. I'm fed up of all these pointless arguments about Cavill's height, or Bomer's height and sexuality, or Hamm's height and age, or Cudmore's height and acting ability, or Hammer's height and resemblance to the character, or Manganiello's ethnicity and the shape of his nose, or Van Winkle's height and acting roles, or whether or not WB are just going to pick somebody who looks even less like Superman than Cavill, Bomer, Hamm, Cudmore, Hammer, Manganiello and Van Winkle, or...GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH.:doh:
This.
Seriously, as long as they don't cast someone I absolutely HATE (Channing Tatum, for example) I really don't care. I like Cavill, Manganiello, Hammer, Hamm and I'm even open to the suggestion of Van Winkle. Though it might be very true that none of them are being considered. There are many routes they could take here. A total unknown would be fine, as long as they get someone who can act this time. And a well-known actor might also work, too, though it's hard to picture any established movie star as Superman. I just want them to cast the role already, or at least give us a clue as to how the process is going.
Maybe they're just keeping it a huge secret until the announcement, I don't know. But it seemed like we were getting daily updates regarding the actors trying out for Captain America and Spider-Man, so I'm worried that they haven't even begun the process and something else is holding everything up. I truly hope not, but Superman projects have been known to get stuck in development hell, unfortunately. :csad:
That being said, we might be dreaming here if we think that these endless debates are going to stop once someone is cast. At that point, the arguments will shift to everyone voicing their opinions on the actors who would have been BETTER than the one who is cast.
Majik1387
01-01-2011, 12:52 PM
It's not that he was overlooked, but the fact that he was purposefully not included in those studio short lists, for whatever reason(s).
How do you know that he was purposefully unincluded? :huh:
I don't get it, B. Cavill auditioned and was on the short list for the role of Superman in SR. He didn't get the role, thus WB didn't see him as right for the part. What more do you need to know?:huh:
Except for the fact that WB isn't the one who didn't see him right for the part, that was Bryan Singer, WB just okayed Singer's choice of Routh.
Strider14
01-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Except for the fact that WB isn't the one who didn't see him right for the part, that was Bryan Singer, WB just okayed Singer's choice of Routh.
Fact? I guess if you believe that Singer did have complete control over who played the role, then we could speculate that WB didn't have anything to do with it. Unless any of us were sitting in on the talks we will never really know. It really doesn't generally work that way though. The studio is always going to have some say no matter what creative control they give someone...at least that has been my experience. Word is WB had a hard time controlling Singer in regard to SR, which tells me he didn't have as much control as we were led to believe. Regardless, even if Singer did make the decision all on his own and decided not to cast Cavill, he was on WB's payroll at the time, so technically it was WB's decision. Do you really think if WB wanted Cavill for the part they wouldn't have said anything about it?
RachelDawes
01-01-2011, 01:02 PM
This thread is consistently one of the most entertaining trainwrecks on the Hype. :up: Actually, this whole board is. :grin:
Majik1387
01-01-2011, 01:07 PM
Fact? I guess if you believe that Singer did have complete control over who played the role, then we could speculate that WB didn't have anything to do with it. It really doesn't work that way though. The studio is always going to have the final word no matter what creative control they give someone...at least that has been my experience. Regardless, Singer was on WB's payroll at the time, so technically it was WB's decision.
That's just small minded thinking. If WB were against Singer's choice of Routh, they would have said no. The same way they okay-ed Routh for Singer is how they okay-ed Cavill when it was McG's project.
WB never had only one actor for who they wanted as Superman, they had a list that they were all okay with and approved of that they would want their director to pick from. Both Routh, Cavill, and other candidates were on the list, and different directors chose different actors when they were attached to the movie; no actors were denied the role of Superman simply because a studio said no. If the studio didn't want them, they wouldn't be on a short list.
I don't see why no one understands this.
klark cent
01-01-2011, 01:22 PM
The last two pages of this thread (in my own eyes) was both entertaining and enlightening... ran out of popcorn that I saved for the official Superman actor announcement ;)
Anyways, Happy New Year y'all!
Strider14
01-01-2011, 02:22 PM
That's just small minded thinking. If WB were against Singer's choice of Routh, they would have said no. The same way they okay-ed Routh for Singer is how they okay-ed Cavill when it was McG's project.
WB never had only one actor for who they wanted as Superman, they had a list that they were all okay with and approved of that they would want their director to pick from. Both Routh, Cavill, and other candidates were on the list, and different directors chose different actors when they were attached to the movie; no actors were denied the role of Superman simply because a studio said no. If the studio didn't want them, they wouldn't be on a short list.
I don't see why no one understands this.
Small mind thinking? Nice dig. I have cast talent and have represented talent for television and film in the past so I am not just making stuff up. I think we actually agree but are just using different terminology or are viewing it from a different perspective. I didn't say WB was against the choice of Routh. Typically, a casting director and director are going to approach the studio with the short list, not the other way around. The Director is concerned about what is going to happen on screen as to how the story unfolds and who they feel is going to best portray the role on screen. The studio is going to be concerned about the bigger picture. Who is going to put people in the seats, who is going to be more marketable, who is going to portray the best image for the studio, etc. (and yes...they want someone who can act). You will have a hard time convincing me that didn't and doesn't play a role in casting lead roles.
It isn't about being against someone as has already been mentioned. It is about picking out the person they feel is best for the role. If you don't get the role...you don't get the role, whether you are on a short-list or not. You aren't the best person for the role in the eyes of the powers at be if you aren't cast. It doesn't mean you weren't in the running. Cavill was in the running. Again, unless we know the inside conversations of what was decided in casting Routh over Cavill or any of the other short-listers all we can do is speculate. The bottom line in the end is that Cavill was not selected and Routh was. You say potato...I say "potato". :cwink:
baleheadbrasil
01-01-2011, 02:32 PM
The last two pages of this thread (in my own eyes) was both entertaining and enlightening... ran out of popcorn that I saved for the official Superman actor announcement ;)
Anyways, Happy New Year y'all!
I hope the chosen actor be a surprise...someone who no one is expecting...
Brandon Routh again or an unknown.
Happy New Year for everyone! :cwink:
gillberg2k1
01-01-2011, 03:02 PM
How do you know that he was purposefully unincluded? :huh:
Because there's certain criteria for the role that he does not meet. Therefore, he was excluded and has not seriously been considered for the role since the McG project.
Pardon if I didn't make that clear.
I don't get it, B. Cavill auditioned and was on the short list for the role of Superman in SR. He didn't get the role, thus WB didn't see him as right for the part. What more do you need to know?:huh:
Errr.. no, not at all. Singer viewed the auditions & took a shine to Routh in the same way that McG watched the same auditions & took a shine to Cavill.. had nothing whatsoever to do with WB not seeing him as right for the part. Infact I'm pretty sure that had WB believed this they wouldn't have allowed Cavill become attached to the project.. which they'd have obviously had to OK to begin with.
gillberg2k1
01-01-2011, 03:09 PM
The studio is going to be concerned about the bigger picture. Who is going to put people in the seats, who is going to be more marketable, who is going to portray the best image for the studio, etc. (and yes...they want someone who can act). You will have a hard time convincing me that didn't and doesn't play a role in casting lead roles.
This is essentially the major issue at hand with Cavill. I don't know how to be more clear, and I think both Jamie and Showtime have reiterated this time and time again.
So you know this for a fact then? What criteria does he not meet?
Strider14
01-01-2011, 03:40 PM
Errr.. no, not at all. Singer viewed the auditions & took a shine to Routh in the same way that McG watched the same auditions & took a shine to Cavill.. had nothing whatsoever to do with WB not seeing him as right for the part. Infact I'm pretty sure that had WB believed this they wouldn't have allowed Cavill become attached to the project.. which they'd have obviously had to OK to begin with.
Bottom line...Cavill did not get the part for SR even though he was on the short list. I will say for the last time, unless someone knows what the discussions and circumstances actually were with Singer and the WB, no one knows the actual facts. My understanding was that WB and/or Singer thought in the long run that Cavill was too young/boyish-looking for the SR role. That doesn't necessarily mean he was so for the McG role. Whether my sources were accurate or not on that who knows. I won't claim it to be fact. We can go on and play the guessing game forever, but time for me to let this one go. :yay:
Nightwing1983
01-01-2011, 03:56 PM
Bottom line...Cavill did not get the part for SR even though he was on the short list. I will say for the last time, unless someone knows what the discussions and circumstances actually were with Singer and the WB, no one knows the actual facts. My understanding was that WB thought in the long run that Cavill was too young/boyish-looking for the SR role. That doesn't necessarily mean he was so for the McG role. Whether my sources were accurate or not on that who knows. I won't claim it to be fact. We can go on and play the guessing game forever, but time for me to let this one go. :yay:
How about this: Cavill--along with Routh, Welling, Hamm, Hammer, Joe M, and a number of other people--is being considered for the roll and if he gets it, great, and if not, oh well!
C. Lee
01-01-2011, 04:02 PM
How about this: Cavill--along with Routh, Welling, Hamm, Hammer, Joe M, and a number of other people--is being considered for the roll and if he gets it, great, and if not, oh well!
I have a better idea...they all get it. Have six or more play Supes and Clark at different times...everyone gets thier preferred choices and gets to compare him against the others in the role. :awesome:
KyleDW2
01-01-2011, 04:02 PM
How about this: Cavill--along with Routh, Welling, Hamm, Hammer, Joe M, and a number of other people--is being considered for the roll and if he gets it, great, and if not, oh well!
I don't think you quite get the point of casting threads...
KyleDW2
01-01-2011, 04:03 PM
I have a better idea...they all get it. Have six or more play Supes and Clark at different times...everyone gets thier preferred choices and gets to compare him against the others in the role. :awesome:
Crisis on Infinite Earths? I'd watch it.
Nightwing1983
01-01-2011, 04:07 PM
Crisis on Infinite Earths? I'd watch it.
Why? You obviously didn't read it.
Nightwing1983
01-01-2011, 04:09 PM
I don't think you quite get the point of casting threads...
Sure I do: you get a hardon for a particular guy in the roll, throw all reasons why he might not get the part out the window, then inflate every obstacle when someone suggests someone else in the roll.
That reminds me: do you have any thoughts as to who will or should play Superman? If so, why don't you make yourself useful and share them?
Superark
01-01-2011, 05:26 PM
The last few pages are exactly why I don't hardly post in this thread anymore. Some of the fanboys are just exhausting
GreenKToo
01-01-2011, 05:51 PM
I've got someone in mind that I think everyone could get behind. heh
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1305/carrottopcoscott.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/carrottopcoscott.jpg/)
Sentry
01-01-2011, 06:11 PM
What do you guys think about Misha Collins as Superman?
http://forums.superherohype.com/[img%20width=600%20height=203]http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9046/mishacollins.jpghttp://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9046/mishacollins.jpg
He has already proven in Supernatural that he can handle dual personalities quite well.
DorkyFresh
01-01-2011, 06:21 PM
can't comment on his acting because i've never seen him but there's something about Misha that doesn't look quite right. he's a handsome guy but despite his masculine features he looks less like Superman than some of the more discussed actors. he looks a bit weird. also...i know i said i don't care about the name of the actor who plays Superman, but i'd rather not have the guy who plays the next Superman to be named "Misha", hehe
FilmNerdJamie
01-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Haven't seen Collins in anything, so I honestly don't have a take on him.
One of these days I'll sit down and watch Supernatural.
DorkyFresh
01-01-2011, 06:32 PM
hey Jamie...i've seen you post about the politics of casting, but i don't think i've ever seen you post who you'd like to see as Supes. if you have i'm not trying to go search, hehe. so i'm just wondering...regardless of the inner workings of Hollyweird, who would you like to see in the role?
GreenKToo
01-01-2011, 06:36 PM
I know who I would like, jon hamm. doubt he has a chance tho if what we heard about the script is true.
baleheadbrasil
01-01-2011, 06:54 PM
What do you guys think about Misha Collins as Superman?
http://forums.superherohype.com/[img%20width=600%20height=203]http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9046/mishacollins.jpghttp://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9046/mishacollins.jpg
He has already proven in Supernatural that he can handle dual personalities quite well.
I simply love him,but as Superman...no,thanks.:yay:
FilmNerdJamie
01-01-2011, 07:01 PM
hey Jamie...i've seen you post about the politics of casting, but i don't think i've ever seen you post who you'd like to see as Supes. if you have i'm not trying to go search, hehe. so i'm just wondering...regardless of the inner workings of Hollyweird, who would you like to see in the role?
I don't have a preference per say. Couple of actors out there who could do a damn fine job.
But if I were directing, I'd bring in Sam Jaeger to read. Doesn't have the "look," but that's irrelevant - neither did Reeve. Performance is priority number one, not whether said actor already looks the part. He's a solid character actor currently on Parenthood, was a regular on Eli Stone and co-starred in Catch & Release with Jennifer Garner and Kevin Smith before he turned into a hypocritical whiny *****.
With this character, have to believe someone in the world can exist who is so noble and selfless without an edge or irony when he says, "I stand for truth, justice and the American way," I personally think Jaeger as an actor has that sincerity. But that's just me, and it's moot since he's not in the running.
Gianakin_
01-01-2011, 07:01 PM
I simply love him,but as Superman...no,thanks.:yay:
Yeah, agreed.
Gianakin_
01-01-2011, 07:02 PM
I'd bring in Sam Jaeger to read.
Hm, he looks like a younger Aaron Eckhart.
I SEE SPIDEY
01-01-2011, 07:15 PM
I don't have a preference per say. Couple of actors out there who could do a damn fine job.
But if I were directing, I'd bring in Sam Jaeger to read. Doesn't have the "look," but that's irrelevant - neither did Reeve. Performance is priority number one, not whether said actor already looks the part. He's a solid character actor currently on Parenthood, was a regular on Eli Stone and co-starred in Catch & Release with Jennifer Garner and Kevin Smith before he turned into a hypocritical whiny *****.
With this character, have to believe someone in the world can exist who is so noble and selfless without an edge or irony when he says, "I stand for truth, justice and the American way," I personally think Jaeger as an actor has that sincerity. But that's just me, and it's moot since he's not in the running.I like reading your opinion on who you would cast. It doesn't matter that he's not in the running, everybody has a personal favorite.
I have personal favorites but I try not to get to attached because my personal favorite is never cast. As long as the actor doesn't suck and can be made to look like Superman, I'll be fine with him.
Those last few pages were really stupid. Here's hoping WB chooses soon. BTW Cavill has no chance at the role, I will have a good laugh when he doesn't get it.
DorkyFresh
01-01-2011, 07:20 PM
I don't have a preference per say. Couple of actors out there who could do a damn fine job.
But if I were directing, I'd bring in Sam Jaeger to read. Doesn't have the "look," but that's irrelevant - neither did Reeve. Performance is priority number one, not whether said actor already looks the part. He's a solid character actor currently on Parenthood, was a regular on Eli Stone and co-starred in Catch & Release with Jennifer Garner and Kevin Smith before he turned into a hypocritical whiny *****.
With this character, have to believe someone in the world can exist who is so noble and selfless without an edge or irony when he says, "I stand for truth, justice and the American way," I personally think Jaeger as an actor has that sincerity. But that's just me, and it's moot since he's not in the running.
never heard or seen him but he's got a decent enough look. i could gripe about his nose though, hehe...but i agree that you've got to find someone who can fully make you believe that their nobility. it's a hard thing to accomplish, especially in an age where gritty and dark films are "in". personally though, as an artist, visuals are an important factor for me so i'm naturally inclined to want an actor that resembles what i visualize as Superman though...which i'll admit is a huge reason why i'd love to see Spencer get the role, but at the same time the reason you stated (the actor's ability to make you believe in their nobility) is another reason i like Spencer. he seems like a genuinely nice guy and actually has the ability to convey that on screen while staying charismatic (something i feel Routh lacks). anyway, thanks for sharing!
Hm, he looks like a younger Aaron Eckhart.
haha yeah...he's like a mixture of Aaron Eckhart and Christian Bale....and in some photos he reminds me of Matthew Fox.
DaJanksta
01-01-2011, 07:35 PM
Cannot wait for this to be cast so we can see some bad ass manips...Until then I shall remain mostly hidden in the shadows patiently and painfully waiting for the reveal of our new and hopefully improved Superman/Clark Kent
:ninja:
That-Guy
01-01-2011, 08:42 PM
What do you guys think about Misha Collins as Superman?
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He has already proven in Supernatural that he can handle dual personalities quite well.
For some reason, he reminds me of Rex Grossman.
Midnight Black
01-01-2011, 08:55 PM
I like dude from Supernatural, just not enough to think he would make a good Supes. His features are too small, IMO. I like that people are thinking out the box though and are fighting what has become the status quo of Cavill, and at one time Hammer & Hamm.
Truth be told seeing how Brandon Routh is getting older and growing into his "grown man" looks I would like to see him return, as long as he does some more work before then so that he can get comfortable on screen.
Other than that I still think that the actor they cast will not right away look like Supes, but after some work and styling will. I'm still looking at blond actors that may be a good choice.
Parker Wayne
01-01-2011, 09:14 PM
For some reason, he reminds me of Rex Grossman.
Hahahaha he does look a bit like him!
darkzombiemutt
01-01-2011, 10:45 PM
I have a better idea...they all get it. Have six or more play Supes and Clark at different times...everyone gets thier preferred choices and gets to compare him against the others in the role. :awesome:
Obviously, this is the only fair way to do it. They should just really think about all the fanboy feelings in this matter. lol
Parker Wayne
01-01-2011, 10:48 PM
I have a better idea...they all get it. Have six or more play Supes and Clark at different times...everyone gets thier preferred choices and gets to compare him against the others in the role. :awesome:
Actually I was thinking of getting six contenders in a room and have them play Russian Roulette with 5 bullets. The one who lives wins. :o
I SEE SPIDEY
01-01-2011, 11:23 PM
How do you know what Jon Hamm can carry and how do you know that Cavill will be a big star?
Strider14
01-01-2011, 11:45 PM
The huge difference is that Cavill just shot 2 Hollywood movies where he's the leading man. People in Hollywood know what movies have been shot that haven't been released yet and oftentimes, casting decisions are based on expectations regarding movies that haven't come out yet and an actor's potential popularity. It's stupid, I know, but that's how it works sometimes and Cavill has that going in his favor.
As a "director" I am sure you are aware that there are countless leads in movies that are being filmed. That doesn't mean they are going to be a hot Hollywood commodity. Some are...some aren't, but being in a lead part really means nothing if the film and individual performance isn't that great and there are a plethora of films out there that fit that bill. I had to go look up the films that Cavill has the lead role in, but I was well aware of the movies that Hamm has and is co-starring in. His work has gotten a lot better press and attention. I would lay down solid odds that Hamm is much more recognizable and popular in the public's eye than Cavill is and probably ever will be. Perhaps he will prove me wrong, but at this point I don't believe he is as hot as you think he is. He's a decent enough actor...nothing more...nothing less.
7heBoss
01-01-2011, 11:59 PM
i feel bad for all the moderators that have to read this bickering everyday. I seriously can't wait for official news. Please be this month!
DIRECTOR
01-02-2011, 12:17 AM
not to go off topic, but CAvil would have been a great Hal Jordan
Jake Cassidy
01-02-2011, 12:29 AM
As a "director" I am sure you are aware that there are countless leads in movies that are being filmed. That doesn't mean they are going to be a hot Hollywood commodity. Some are...some aren't, but being in a lead part really means nothing if the film and individual performance isn't that great and there are a plethora of films out there that fit that bill. I had to go look up the films that Cavill has the lead role in, but I was well aware of the movies that Hamm has and is co-starring in. His work has gotten a lot better press and attention. I would lay down solid odds that Hamm is much more recognizable and popular in the public's eye than Cavill is and probably ever will be. Perhaps he will prove me wrong, but at this point I don't believe he is as hot as you think he is. He's a decent enough actor...nothing more...nothing less.
That depends on Immortals. It could be big or it could flop. Who knows?
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