The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[FilmNerdJamie]

At the risk of being tiresome... I'll try to put things into perspective. You have a studio who is in a legal battle with the creators of a boy scout like character, that comes out of 17 years of failures with that very same character and is in front of it's VERY LAST CHANCE to make it successful. It's either this one or no more Superman on big screen EVER. That same studio faced a lot of suspicions with the sexuality of their last actor in the role. Just imagine if they cast Cavill in the role... and the tabloids discover this before the movie even hits screens. Get now why he wasn't cast as Bond either? Why it was Craig, despite not meeting the age and looks criteria? Don't ever subestimate the power of negative PR. Specially if the actor is british and has to deal with the likes of things like News of the World or The Sun. It's a NIGHTMARE that you may not care about, but if anyone of you would be in the situation of having to respond to a board of investors, you WOULD very definitely care. This has nothing to do with Cavill's acting ability or looks. It has to do with it being a potential horror story for one of the most powerful corporations of the world and them potentially losing one of their potentially most lucrative franchises due to a combination of bad PR and homophobia in the general public. It's a risk no big corporation would take in a position of "do it or lose it" with a huge corporate asset. They're going to play safe, and I think getting Nolan/Snyder/Goyer is a pretty big indication of that. They're WB's golden boys. So expect also one of WB's golden boys to get cast as Supes.

Spoken like someone who knows what the Hell they're talking about, listens and processes information instead of resorting to "NU-UH!" replies.

:up:

[SrsBsns]

Guys:

I heard from my mother's friends daughters best friends sisters dog that Hammer is gay. Let's discuss.

[daywalker2007]

correct me if im wrong. but whenever an actor is suspected of being gay, there is usually some sort of evidence, whether that be pictures of the said person or frequent mention on various websites and blogs for a certain period of time.

Up until C Lee's post, pretty much nowhere on the web has any website or major blog rumoured about Cavill being gay, which makes the rumour all the more surprising.

Hollywood can keep secrets very well, as it has done in the past, but being gay is not usually one, especially in this day and age with people ready to sell anything for money.

With Kevin Spacey, there have been numerous pictures and stories to provide some sort of evidence, and you can say the same for Bomer, so those actors you can sort of make a case for them being gay.

But for Cavill, its the first anyone has heard.

Which is why its very surprising. Never seen any pictures or anything. Maybe some of you "insiders" have got the juicy pics.

Feel free to share them. I guess the Superhero hype mods are trying to muscle in on the "Perez Hilton" market.

[Project862006]

the problem with c lee's post and a couple of other is they have no proof if you have proof then show it you are acting like it is a complete fact.

- we have proof tom hardy is Bi

- we have proof singer is gay

- we have proof matthew bomer is gay

- we have proof ian mckellan is gay

but where is this proof of Cavill being gay when he himself has denied it

dont spew out a rumor no one has heard of before and believe people to blindly say ok i beleive you with no inch of proof

i dont care if he is personally but i am just saying

[darkzombiemutt]

drop the gay "humor" and move on.

So if the WB is looking for a goldenboy actor, does that mean not an "unknown?"

[daywalker2007]

the only reason I am bringing up this issue of providing some sort of evidence is that stating something as a fact can be taken as slander, especially if it isn't true!

and if you start a rumour which ends up going around the web, causing distress to that person, then it can be grounds for a case to be sued!

just though i would mention that, in case any people here get sued for defamation.

[GreenKToo]

@ darkzombie.
Hard to say..way back they were saying he wouldnt be a total unknown..not sure if that has changed since then or not.

[green]

Maybe with some muscle on him wonder what his actings like

He'd definately need to bulk up.
He had a small part in Tom Ford's 'A Single Man', a fantastic film btw if people are mature enough to deal with the subject matter, not really enough to show his abilities though.

[Alonsovich]

drop the gay "humor" and move on.

So if the WB is looking for a goldenboy actor, does that mean not an "unknown?"

It means one of the actors that have been in their successful films recently or in their successful series that are not Smallville. Possibly look there and in the rest of the candidates for a similar character like Captain America is. It's probably not such a difficult list to make. An unknown would also fall into that corporate risk factor, so I'm doubting this time there will be a massive casting call like last time.

[BH/HHH]

@ darkzombie.
Hard to say..way back they were saying he wouldnt be a total unknown..not sure if that has changed since then or not.

I personally think it will end up been a total unknown

[C. Lee]

Guys:

I heard from my mother's friends daughters best friends sisters dog that Hammer is gay. Let's discuss.

I heard you just got one weeks probation.


People....You better take me serious when I say not to be idiots about this.

[Alonsovich]

At the risk of being tiresome... I'll try to put things into perspective. You have a studio who is in a legal battle with the creators of a boy scout like character, that comes out of 17 years of failures with that very same character and is in front of it's VERY LAST CHANCE to make it successful. It's either this one or no more Superman on big screen EVER. That same studio faced a lot of suspicions with the sexuality of their last actor in the role. Just imagine if they cast Cavill in the role... and the tabloids discover this before the movie even hits screens. Get now why he wasn't cast as Bond either? Why it was Craig, despite not meeting the age and looks criteria? Don't ever subestimate the power of negative PR. Specially if the actor is british and has to deal with the likes of things like News of the World or The Sun. It's a NIGHTMARE that you may not care about, but if anyone of you would be in the situation of having to respond to a board of investors, you WOULD very definitely care. This has nothing to do with Cavill's acting ability or looks. It has to do with it being a potential horror story for one of the most powerful corporations of the world and them potentially losing one of their potentially most lucrative franchises due to a combination of bad PR and homophobia in the general public. It's a risk no big corporation would take in a position of "do it or lose it" with a huge corporate asset. They're going to play safe, and I think getting Nolan/Snyder/Goyer is a pretty big indication of that. They're WB's golden boys. So expect also one of WB's golden boys to get cast as Supes.

I'll add to this that I'm starting not to believe the official story of Nolan approching WB with Goyer's pitch for Superman. I think it's more a case of WB turning to their trusted money making idols to do whatever they think is best with a franchise that they don't even know how to approach, then giving it to their most visually talented director, that is willing to work under studio mandate. And between those mandates is Nolan/Goyer's script and WB's Superman casting choice. I'm highly suspecting this is the case and not the "official version".

[GreenKToo]

I personally think it will end up been a total unknown
Maybe..or we talking unknown like routh was, or relatively unknown like a porter.

[Majik1387]

Wow, this thread just got really stupid.

I love how some here really think that WB is using an unknown gay rumor as their reason for not casting Cavill.
If studios were like that this day and age, Tom Cruise and Matthew Broderick never would have had a career in the 90s.

Not only is none of it fact, but the gay rumor is not even on the radar these days, and barely was before. If that's the actual "inside info" that some posters with "sources" was referring to, their sources must have fun playing jokes on them.

[Showtime]

but where is this proof of Cavill being gay when he himself has denied it

dont spew out a rumor no one has heard of before and believe people to blindly say ok i beleive you with no inch of proof

I'm not going to get in arguments about whether Cavill is gay or not gay, because it's pointless. However, somebody denying something publicly doesn't mean they are telling the truth, but...he could be telling the truth.

Also, nobody has proof he definitely isn't gay either. So it's just the spinning of wheels. Page after page of, "he is, he isn't!" Who wants that really?

the only reason I am bringing up this issue of providing some sort of evidence is that stating something as a fact can be taken as slander, especially if it isn't true!

and if you start a rumour which ends up going around the web, causing distress to that person, then it can be grounds for a case to be sued!

just though i would mention that, in case any people here get sued for defamation.

Let's not go overboard, somebody saying an actor is gay on a message board isn't going to get sued for slander. Let's pump the brakes.

That being said, I personally think we should move on from this and start talking about sexual preference and start talking about candidates for the role of Superman. It's derailing the thread.

[BH/HHH]

Maybe..or we talking unknown like routh was, or relatively unknown like a porter.

Well maybe more like Routh was yeah

[C. Lee]

That being said, I personally think we should move on from this and start talking about sexual preference and start talking about candidates for the role of Superman. It's derailing the thread.

Definately...since many can't act mature and more will wind up probated or banned for thier comments.

[Project862006]

i agree with showtime lets move on this cavill is gay or is'nt gay thing should never of been brought up to begin with and has just caused 3 or 4 pages of nonsense.

back to casting guys

[GreenKToo]

Well maybe more like Routh was yeah
I don't think he will be that unknown..I think it will be a guy form a tv series that has maybe been in a couple of films as a minor character. He will have more experience than routh had.
I could be wrong, but thats my thinking.

[BH/HHH]

I don't think he will be that unknown..I think it will be a guy form a tv series that has maybe been in a couple of films as a minor character. He will have more experience than routh had.
I could be wrong, but thats my thinking.

As long as its someone who ends up been good I'm happy either way :D

[FilmNerdJamie]

I'll add to this that I'm starting not to believe the official story of Nolan approching WB with Goyer's pitch for Superman. I think it's more a case of WB turning to their trusted money making idols to do whatever they think is best with a franchise that they don't even know how to approach, then giving it to their most visually talented director, that is willing to work under studio mandate. And between those mandates is Nolan/Goyer's script and WB's Superman casting choice. I'm highly suspecting this is the case and not the "official version".

Somebody is getting the "Poster of the Day" ribbon.

[GreenKToo]

As long as its someone who ends up been good I'm happy either way :D
For sure...Really, when you think about it, wb has ALOT riding on this film, so I cant see them going with a totally unknown, inexperienced actor.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I don't think he will be that unknown..I think it will be a guy form a tv series that has maybe been in a couple of films as a minor character. He will have more experience than routh had.
I could be wrong, but thats my thinking.


The official casting call said it *could* be a complete unknown, or someone with TV experience.

Regardless they said they want someone who isn't known very well publicly that they can "shape into a star"

It's within the realm of possibilities they could cast another Routh-level unknown, that's my preference anyway.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'll add to this that I'm starting not to believe the official story of Nolan approching WB with Goyer's pitch for Superman. I think it's more a case of WB turning to their trusted money making idols to do whatever they think is best with a franchise that they don't even know how to approach, then giving it to their most visually talented director, that is willing to work under studio mandate. And between those mandates is Nolan/Goyer's script and WB's Superman casting choice. I'm highly suspecting this is the case and not the "official version".


Makes me wonder who the studio favors as their casting choice for Superman then.

I've always said the studio will have a huge hand controlling the casting process this time, for better or worse.

[GreenKToo]

possible. I have no idea tho, no insiders. I just think it will be someone like I mentioned, someone like a porter or maybe even a hammer.

[Alonsovich]

Somebody is getting the "Poster of the Day" ribbon.

Lol... :o

[Alonsovich]

possible. I have no idea tho, no insiders. I just think it will someone like I mentioned, someone like a porter or maybe even a hammer.

I also have no idea, but seeing as this looks like a heavily studio controlled project I'd say those two names you said are definitely being looked at...

[That-Guy]

As before, I'm only fine with:

1)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KakDTGzMAik/TCXIEjc_GcI/AAAAAAAAAp8/dcTSp3h9FWI/BrandonRouth2.jpg

OR


2) A complete unknown that meets the physical requirements of the character.



We've been through all the known names and up and coming actors for Superman and none of them really promise to be great definitive portrayals of the character that could potentially dethrone Reeve. A complete unknown, like Reeve and Routh, is the best chance to score a definitive Superman for this generation that can outdo Chris Reeve as the face of Superman.

I find it a tad ironic that you make a statement like this after you put Routh up there as your only other option.

It's true, every single one of these other guys people are promoting for Superman could be horrible in the role, or simply be mediocre and not come close to living up to Reeve. But we don't know that. And while there are at least a few actors who I think would be horrible choices, I can't say with 100% certainty that they couldn't surprise me.

You make it clear here that the only way for an actor to put his stamp on Superman is to be just as good or even better than Reeve. That I would agree with. But you're contradicting yourself by bringing up Routh. He had his shot, and while some people were sold on it - there were enough people that weren't that WB decided to move on. And that's the important factor. I truly doubt that we'll ever get an actor that wins EVERYBODY over, but we at least need an actor that the fans, the studios and the general non-fanboy population warms to and wants to see a lot more of. Routh had his shot; and he couldn't pull this off. You can blame the script, the director, whatever... but at some point you have to recognize that the performance didn't help either.

[GreenKToo]

I also have no idea, but seeing as this looks like a heavily studio controlled project I'd say those two names you said are definitely being looked at...
one things for sure, I dont think you can rule anyone in or out, and that includes routh and welling imo.

[SuperMike335!!]

If WB is looking for someone already working with them, then Ryan Mcpartlin from Chuck may actually have a shot.

[Alonsovich]

one things for sure, I dont think you can rule anyone in or out, and that includes routh and welling imo.

As last resorts... I'd be ok with them actually. I don't know about Routh though, has the previous franchise against him. I was very vocally anti-Welling some time ago, but right now they can do much worse than him actually.

[GreenKToo]

I think its kinda odd we haven't any names..maybe they already have their guy and we don't know. Still, you would think some names would have leaked out by now.

[GreenKToo]

As last resorts... I'd be ok with them actually. I don't know about Routh though, has the previous franchise against him. I was very vocally anti-Welling some time ago, but right now they can do much worse than him actually.
I agree about routh. welling I would actually be fine with. I don't think either will get it tho, but until we hear it from the horses mouth, there is always a chance I suppose.

[Showtime]

I also have no idea, but seeing as this looks like a heavily studio controlled project I'd say those two names you said are definitely being looked at...

Wow. You're bringing it.

The studio has been really high on Porter and Hammer for years. Always thinking either one of them could be a star in one of their big franchises.

[JAK®]

Isn't Hammer out because he is doing another film that could interfere with pre-production?

[Showtime]

He's working on J. Edgar right now, I believe they are still in pre-pro.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Isn't Hammer out because he is doing another film that could interfere with pre-production?

Personally, I would think so because of all the prep work required that will eat up his time versus co-staring in J. Edgar will be film for 3-5-ish months.

He'd do a bang-up job if they picked him though.

[batman44]

Hammer is gonna be the next Batman:p:o

Edit: OT: Which mod do I talk to about a user name change.

[JAK®]

Hammer is gonna be the next Batman:p:o
He has the voice for it.

[Majik1387]

Not at all. Thank god Hammer won't be either

[Showtime]

Hammer is gonna be the next Batman:p:o

Edit: OT: Which mod do I talk to about a user name change.

PM Hunter Rider.

[JAK®]

Not at all. Thank god Hammer won't be eitherHe already was one of them.

[Alonsovich]

He already was one of them.

Zing... :up:

[Majik1387]

He already was one of them.
Not really

[Project862006]

i am still surprised Hammer did not get captain america i dont think he auditioned tho chris evans is still a great pick tho

[JAK®]

Not reallyhttp://img214.imageshack.us/i/yarly001.jpg/
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[Project862006]

http://hellomoye.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/orly.jpg

[Octoberist]

i am still surprised Hammer did not get captain america i dont think he auditioned tho chris evans is still a great pick tho

I'm convinced that they just wanted a name to be Capt. Any name for that matter.

Not to discredit Chris Evans, but the dude didn't have an audition; he was just offered the role and the higher ups were cool with him.

[Majik1387]

http://img214.imageshack.us/i/yarly001.jpg/
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6533/yarly001.jpg
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Then I guess Nicholas Cage has played Superman. :whatever:

[JAK®]

Then I guess Nicholas Cage has played Superman. :whatever:
You never said "He won't play either". You said "He won't be either". He was hired to play Batman. So yes, Cage WAS Superman.

[Octoberist]

Personally, I would think so because of all the prep work required that will eat up his time versus co-staring in J. Edgar will be film for 3-5-ish months.

He'd do a bang-up job if they picked him though.

The one thing that can factor with Hammer's work on J. Hoover is that Clint Eastwood films FAST. He does only 1-2 takes per scene. He filmed Gran Torino only four months before the release. He had only..1-2 months of post.

[Dark Knight]

The one thing that can factor with Hammer's work on J. Hoover is that Clint Eastwood films FAST. He does only 1-2 takes per scene. He filmed Gran Torino only four months before the release. He had only..1-2 months of post.





That's what I'm saying as well.

Hammer will finish he scenes rather quickly for the Eastwood film.

That would give Hammer about 3-4 months of prep time for the Supes shoot in June.

Plenty of time IMO.

Plus this Eastwood film may give Hammer some more buzz before being cast as Superman....potentially of course.

[Octoberist]

I'm all for Hammer but I do have to admit: He has a very baby face. I just hope after a super workout can make him look more chisel. along with the hair and costume, it could complete the package.

[Dark Knight]

Isn't Hammer out because he is doing another film that could interfere with pre-production?





Hoover is going to start filming at the end of the month or in Feburary. He will shoot his scenes quickly enough to have plenty of time to prep for Superman filming IMO.

Look at Bale now. He is about to start shooting that Chinese movie with him playing a priest and he is due to start filming the next Bat film in May.

WB's, Nolan and Snyder must feel these two guys will have plenty of time to shoot these films before starting prep work on TDKRises and Man of Steel.

This is all hypothetically speaking of course when it comes to Hammer being possibly cast as Supes.

In the end, I would rather see Hammer be cast as Superman ahead of Scott Porter.

[green]

Eh, I dont even know if Hammer would take Superman at this point. The Social Network has kinda skyrocketed his career and now he's getting to work with Eastwood in a rather controversial role along with Leo...he doesnt really need Superman for his career.

[green]

double post

[Dark Knight]

Eh, I dont even know if Hammer would take Superman at this point. The Social Network has kinda skyrocketed his career and now he's getting to work with Eastwood in a rather controversial role along with Leo...he doesnt really need Superman for his career.







The general movie going audience still don't know who the heck Hammer is.

They won't know even after the Hoover film, now being cast as Superman will get him there though.

[Alonsovich]

Eh, I dont even know if Hammer would take Superman at this point. The Social Network has kinda skyrocketed his career and now he's getting to work with Eastwood in a rather controversial role along with Leo...he doesnt really need Superman for his career.

I think just the contrary. A guy that is at the beginning of his career, has a great role in two very special films and plays an ICONIC role in a film made by the producers of TDK and Inception... I'd say it fits quite well actually...

[green]

I think just the contrary. A guy that is at the beginning of his career, has a great role in two very special films and plays an ICONIC role in a film made by the producers of TDK and Inception... I'd say it fits quite well actually...


Signing on to Superman would more than likely mean signing a 3 picture deal and tying alot of his time up if its successful. He may choose to go with more dramatic and critical roles, which he's probably being offered now instead of superhero/action roles. You never know though...difference of opinion.

[Alonsovich]

Signing on to Superman would more than likely mean signing a 3 picture deal and tying alot of his time up if its successful. He may choose to go with more dramatic and critical roles, which he's probably being offered now instead of superhero/action roles. You never know though...difference of opinion.

This is another question... can WB sign a 3 picture deal for Superman when they're only entitled to make one movie with all this rights legal battle? I'd assume it would be a 3 picture deal, one being Superman and 2 other unnamed films up until they can solve the rights issue?

[green]

This is another question... can WB sign a 3 picture deal for Superman when they're only entitled to make one movie with all this rights legal battle? I'd assume it would be a 3 picture deal, one being Superman and 2 other unnamed films up until they can solve the rights issue?

Thats what I would assume as well.

[Showtime]

I am assuming J. Edgar is a WB flick as well...

[Alonsovich]

I am assuming J. Edgar is a WB flick as well...

Ahaaaaa... interesting... :o

[FilmNerdJamie]

It is.

[Dark Knight]

I think just the contrary. A guy that is at the beginning of his career, has a great role in two very special films and plays an ICONIC role in a film made by the producers of TDK and Inception... I'd say it fits quite well actually...






Exactly!

Except for the Social Network being "very special" that is.

[Dark Knight]

Signing on to Superman would more than likely mean signing a 3 picture deal and tying alot of his time up if its successful. He may choose to go with more dramatic and critical roles, which he's probably being offered now instead of superhero/action roles. You never know though...difference of opinion.






Signing a 3 picture deal?

Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we? :huh:

[DorkyFresh]

makes me wonder if Hammer's comment about them going for an "older" actor was just a deterrent.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I thought Snyder shot that down right after, saying it's early on in his career. Unless that wasn't true either.

[green]

Signing a 3 picture deal?

Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we? :huh:

Not really. That's pretty much standard practice for a film franchise.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, besides, I think Superman is here to stay this time.

[gdw]

What about Philip Winchester?

[Micah12345]

porter looks like barry allen

[I Am The Knight]

If I had ta choose between Porter and Hammer I'd go with Porter....

[Dark Knight]

If I had ta choose between Porter and Hammer I'd go with Porter....





Porter seems like a better fit as Barry Allen than Superman.

Hammer seems to be the better actor right now who also who has some steam going for him.

[Majik1387]

Porter is a better actor who actually looks the role.
Arm and Hammer leaves a lot to be desired after his horribly bland performance in The Social Network.

[Alonsovich]

They both look the part and are good actors, they're just different in the way they meet the criteria. Hammer is imposing, has a great voice and has the height. Porter isn't as imposing or physically tall, but has the all-american farmer boy persona down, and could be easily bulked up. They would both be good choices and would bring different things to the role, which is much needed.

[Showtime]

Signing a 3 picture deal?

Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we? :huh:

Why? That's the standard for any of these big franchises.

1 Film + 2 options.

[Octoberist]

Porter is a better actor who actually looks the role.
Arm and Hammer leaves a lot to be desired after his horribly bland performance in The Social Network.

No offense to Porter, but how is he a better actor? And did you already made up your mind about Armie before you saw The Social Network? Was it because of that Justice League movie?

It just seems like you take great pride bashing him while I would think that most people would be just indifferent towards him.

[Octoberist]

And trust me, when Armie was cast as Batman during that Justice League thingy, I was 'eh' on him too until I saw The Social Network. I'm not saying he deserves an Oscar for that role (or should I say roles) but he showed that he has the ability to have a presence on the screen. With or without David Fincher's involvement (if you're going down that 'route' and say it's Fincher's direction that made Armie a better actor.)

[Jake Cassidy]

I like Hammer and Porter and I wouldn't mind if 1 of them were Superman. I just think that Porter fits Flash and Hammer fits Aquaman better.

[Majik1387]

No offense to Porter, but how is he a better actor?
Friday Night Lights. Watch it sometime.
His other smaller roles are also pretty fun and can be the positive of some of the lesser good movies he's been in.

If it makes you feel better, while I think he's a btter choice as Superman, he'd be better as Superboy to me.
And did you already made up your mind about Armie before you saw The Social Network? Was it because of that Justice League movie? No, I was waiting to finally see him in something instead of just seeing his picture posted on the boards here. Huge disappointment.

If you actually followed the production in the JL movie thread, you would have read me saying that I thought the reporter mixed Hammer's and Cotrona's roles and that I was open to seeing what they'd do in their roles.

I wasn't fully behind the JL production, but I was willing to give it a chance. I was the one who did manip Teresa Palmer as Talia when I heard of her casting.
It just seems like you take great pride bashing him while I would think that most people would be just indifferent towards him.
Really? With the bold? :whatever:

I express my distaste for an actor twice in this thread and I'm taking "pride in bashing him"? Spare me.

I also found the one note suggestion of Philip Winchester to be horrible. I didn't really take part in the random mention of past Captain America candidates that Chris Evans beat out for the role because it seemed like a wasted of time. I honestly don't remember much of the choices before the whole collection of pages of debate with posters "sources" and the Cavill gay rumor thing. So sorry, if I haven't really commented on other suggestions, but odds are I have before and didn't feel like repeating myself at the time they were re-suggested or the suggestion are guys I don't know about. Most I do with those is comment on their looks but reserve judgment on their acting skills.

[Octoberist]

Yes you do it with snark, bud. And read my other message, to show how I felt about Armie. I'm a fair guy. :)

[FilmNerdJamie]

No offense to Porter, but how is he a better actor? And did you already made up your mind about Armie before you saw The Social Network? Was it because of that Justice League movie?

Both have something that highlights their strong acting chops. Porter with Friday Night Lights and Hammer with The Social Network.

[Majik1387]

I do what with snark? Not saying I'm not, but I'm snarky in many ways, don't know which one you're referring to.

As for me, I do feel I'm a fair guy. I don't judge an actor's talent without seeing it in action. Looks I do judge, but I also keep in mind what can be done about looks; like when a strange assortment of posters like John Krasinski as Captain America because of a picture of him with blue eyes and blonde hair and heavily photoshopped plastic surgery.

[Jake Cassidy]

Friday Night Lights is fantastic.

[Asgard]

Yeah it is.

Scott did an amazing job as Jason.

[Superark]

I like Porter, but I think he's wrong for Superman

I wouldn't mind seeing him as the Flash however

[That-Guy]

I liked Hammer a lot in The Social Network. I'm not sure how you could call him bad in that film... his roles were especially challenging because he was playing twins and he had to make them different enough that you could tell which one was which but also make them somewhat similar because they had a lot of common goals and ideas. He pulled it off perfectly, IMO.

[Majik1387]

I liked Hammer a lot in The Social Network. I'm not sure how you could call him bad in that film... his roles were especially challenging because he was playing twins and he had to make them different enough that you could tell which one was which but also make them somewhat similar because they had a lot of common goals and ideas. He pulled it off perfectly, IMO.
This is where we disagree.

I agree pulling off two roles in one movie is a difficult task; when it's been done, usually actors only really shine in one role over the other one. Both Hammer's performances were cringe-worthy, which upset me because it was definitely a role that could have been fun to do as an up and coming actor, and he wasted it, double time.

[That-Guy]

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, but I think you're in the minority on that one.

[Majik1387]

Hasn't stopped me from being right before.

[Parker Wayne]

Edit.

[GreenKToo]

lol......fun stuff.
Anybody think Jake Gyllenhaal will get a look, or would he even be interested.

[MAN O STEEL]

No, he won't. He's to short & looks like a Raccoon.





Steve

[GreenKToo]

lol, a raccoon? maybe too short tho.

[Rust]

A raccoon? Great :woot:

But seriously. Not to Gyllenhaal from me. He looks too droopy-faced and stoned. Also, I still see a bit of Darko in him. He might also be too big a name now and I cant really imagine him in the suit either.

A good starter's point: How do every actor look in the suit? Some look right, other's look wrong or just silly. The face has to have a "sleekness" about it imo if you know what I mean. It has to look aereal like meant to fly, hehe, no ****. Like a concorde.
That's why someone like Krasinski would crash and burn. He just looks like a clunky Lockheed Hercules airplane. :woot:

[SuperMike335!!]

Right now I sort of see Porter as more boyish than what I'd like Superman to look like.

I'm not getting the rugged manly vibe from him.

Who knows? With the right bodybuilding coach and the correct look from the makeup and costume team I could be convinced otherwise.

For right now I'd prefer a very masculine type who is at least 6'2" and imposing, while at the same time being good looking and charasmatic.

Porter does have the good looks and charisma, credit there.

[gillberg2k1]

Porter's growing on me. We should hear something concrete soon and we can finally put this thing to bed.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Porter's growing on me. We should hear something concrete soon and we can finally put this thing to bed.

Then comments fill the forum of posters' *****ing and whining because their pick didn't get it.

[Rust]

Unfortunately, probably yes. I do believe the real whiners in here are a minority, so it should be ignorable.

I wouldnt mind Porter at all, but he looks a little un-imposing and shy, so to speak. But whatever, why not, man, if he's as good as people say. :up:

[gillberg2k1]

Then comments fill the forum of posters' *****ing and whining because their pick didn't get it.

I'd expect nothing less.

Any day now... The sooner the better so people can start getting pumped about finally getting a killer Supes flick.

[GreenKToo]

i'm getting a feeling from you guys that porter may be it??

[Rust]

Maybe. But if news is on the way, then yay! :yay:

[GreenKToo]

The sooner the better I say..I'm ready for them to get this thing started.

[Rust]

I think everybody is, and not just because of the frustrations in here.

[Bruce_Begins]

so, these actors are out -

Jon Hamm - too old as per script requirements
Jim Caviezel - too old as per script requirements
Tom Welling - already played the character for TEN years on Smallville.
Brandon Routh - Was in last Superman movie, and this one is not connected to the any old movies.
Henry Cavill - Studio does not want him for the role of Big Blue Boy Scout for some reasons.
D J Cotrona - not heard about him since the failed JL Mortal project got canned.

so the new list is -
1. Armie Hammer.
2. Daniel Cudmore.
3. Harmon Walsh.
4. Joe Manganeillo.
5. Ryan Mc Partlin
6. Rick Malambri.
7. Unknown.
8. Scott Porter.

[Rust]

You're making that list sound awfully official.

[GreenKToo]

List?? based on fans wishes or something you have heard? i'm guessing it's based on what you have read in here.

[Bruce_Begins]

Well, the one that are out are more or less obvious.

[GreenKToo]

I think you can scratch cudmore off.

[Bruce_Begins]

It is based on what we have been discussing months now on this forum.

[Bruce_Begins]

I would say Cudmore had a chance when Bryan Singer was the director, but he selected Routh.

[GreenKToo]

As of now, I think it's porter, if not, I bet he makes it to the final two or three.

[Mike22]

Porter's growing on me. We should hear something concrete soon and we can finally put this thing to bed.
A while back when he was first mentioned, I was less than thrilled about this guy, purely because I envisioned something else in my mind for this character and no other reason. But after that time when ever I've come to this particular thread, I've seen some of the most bizarre choices that I could never accept as superman, and then somebody mentions Porter again, and all of the sudden he's not so bad. A tad on the short side, but frankly all things considered I'd be more than willing to accept it if this guy was cast, not because he's my number one choice or anything, but because so many other choices make me cringe to the point where it actually starts to hurt. I'd be all for it this time around. A thumbs up for Porter.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Majik1387]

so, these actors are out -

Jon Hamm - too old as per script requirements
Jim Caviezel - too old as per script requirements
Tom Welling - already played the character for TEN years on Smallville.
Brandon Routh - Was in last Superman movie, and this one is not connected to the any old movies.
Henry Cavill - Studio does not want him for the role of Big Blue Boy Scout for some reasons.
D J Cotrona - not heard about him since the failed JL Mortal project got canned.

so the new list is -
1. Armie Hammer.
2. Daniel Cudmore.
3. Harmon Walsh.
4. Joe Manganeillo.
5. Ryan Mc Partlin
6. Rick Malambri.
7. Unknown.
8. Scott Porter.
:whatever:

[Man of Tomorrow]

Porter has got to be around 5'11 or shorter.

This is him next to Matthew Fox (6'2):

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/speed_racer/_group_photos/matthew_fox23.jpg

[GreenKToo]

I agree with mike, porter is not my first or even my second choice, but i'd take him over most.

[Bruce_Begins]

If WB are considering a Flash movie soon, then I think that they will want Scott Porter as Barry Allen, he is more suited for that role.

[Bruce_Begins]

I hope that we get some casting info. this month.

[gillberg2k1]

:up:

Not to mention, I think Porter's actually a pretty solid actor. If he doesn't get this role, which is still entirely possible, he'll still have a great career ahead of him.

Regardless, gotta put the trust into the team behind this one. They have a much better idea of what they're doing and their vision than anyone on any message board.

It's going to be great.

[GreenKToo]

as for as hearing something soon, next couple of weeks or sooner?

[darkzombiemutt]

Unless they are doing some major trick photography, Porter is no where near tall enough.

[Bruce_Begins]

CGI should be used for flying and creating effects that are impossible to do with ordinary camera work, not for making someone look tall while walking on streets.

[Mike22]

:up:

Not to mention, I think Porter's actually a pretty solid actor. If he doesn't get this role, which is still entirely possible, he'll still have a great career ahead of him.
I agree.
Regardless, gotta put the trust into the team behind this one. They have a much better idea of what they're doing and their vision than anyone on any message board.

It's going to be great.
Yeah I think so too. My biggest concern about the movie is the casting. Because I would truly hate to see someone who's not right for Superman in a movie that has everything else.

Oh and by the way, anybody hear anything about the costume?
What direction are they going for, classic or a more modernized approach? I would think after SR they'd go for a suit as true to the comics as possible.
And while I'm at it, I just saw Paperman with Ryan Reynolds, basically the muscles makes the suit, the dude was buff as hell in a cheap ass costume and he still made it look terrific, the blue spandex that is. Classic suit all the way.

[gillberg2k1]

as for as hearing something soon, next couple of weeks or sooner?

To clear things up, I'm not saying Porter has or hasn't been cast. I think he and Hammer simply have the best shot out of everyone right now as they're both studio favorites.

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't heard any news yet. Should be any time now.

[gillberg2k1]

Double Trouble

[GreenKToo]

gotcha, thanx.

[GreenKToo]

I'd be fine with either porter or hammer.

[hopefuldreamer]

Should be any time now.

Seriously, i'm checking daily, and it's driving me mental! :cmad: Haven't we been waiting long enough!!!!

I mean, even if they just released a statement saying that they aren't releasing anything too soon because they want to make sure the right decision is made... something... anything!

[Bruce_Begins]

I would be happy even if they start announcing some minor roles before announcing the main lead role, like Perry, Jimmy, Lois.

[gillberg2k1]

Oh and by the way, anybody hear anything about the costume?
What direction are they going for, classic or a more modernized approach? I would think after SR they'd go for a suit as true to the comics as possible.
And while I'm at it, I just saw Paperman with Ryan Reynolds, basically the muscles makes the suit, the dude was buff as hell in a cheap ass costume and he still made it look terrific, the blue spandex that is. Classic suit all the way.

I know this won't please a lot of people, but my understanding was that they were going for something slightly more "modern" and "alien." Again, they're trying to get away from previous incarnations and do something a bit different, rebooting the franchise and character completely. It's still really early to know for sure though, and I'd bet they'll be playing around with several versions before settling. Regardless, I HIGHLY doubt that whatever they go with will stray too far from the standard elements of the "classic" design. I'm sure it will be instantly recognizable as Superman and won't be nearly as radical as some of the designs I've seen in other threads.

[Superark]

:up:

Not to mention, I think Porter's actually a pretty solid actor. If he doesn't get this role, which is still entirely possible, he'll still have a great career ahead of him.

Regardless, gotta put the trust into the team behind this one. They have a much better idea of what they're doing and their vision than anyone on any message board.

It's going to be great.


I certainly hope Porter isn't cast. I'll be highly disappointed if he is.

I wish I had as much as enthusiasm as you about this project. I'm trying to remain as optimistic as possible

[BH/HHH]

Scott Porter would be awesome

[Dark Knight]

Porter has got to be around 5'11 or shorter.

This is him next to Matthew Fox (6'2):

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/speed_racer/_group_photos/matthew_fox23.jpg





I think we should all hope Porter does NOT get cast as Superman.

He would be an underwhelming and MEH choice.....but whatever.

[Rust]

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't heard any news yet. Should be any time now.

Really? Didnt really expect casting news until february or march.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

i'm getting a feeling from you guys that porter may be it??
I am getting the same feeling as well. They are talking like they know something but aren't saying, but at the same time saying a lot by not saying anything. Does that make sense?

[Majik1387]

There's been no rumors or anything with merit about any actors being in or out of the running. All of it is only fanboy speculation.

[Dark Knight]

No, he won't. He's to short & looks like a Raccoon.





Steve







Looks like a racoon!

Hilarious! :awesome:

[gillberg2k1]

I am getting the same feeling as well. They are talking like they know something but aren't saying, but at the same time saying a lot by not saying anything. Does that make sense?

One more time: I'm making an educated guess here. Nothing more, nothing less. Hammer and Porter are both thought of very highly at the studio. They've both grown on me, and I think both of them have a great shot at the role. That's it.

[gillberg2k1]

Really? Didnt really expect casting news until february or march.

I'm expecting a final, real short list to leak soon.

[Rust]

I am getting the same feeling as well. They are talking like they know something but aren't saying, but at the same time saying a lot by not saying anything. Does that make sense?


Edit: ^ What Gillberg said.

[Maze]

I'm expecting a final, real short list to leak soon.

Educated guess again or? :o :woot: ;)

[Dark Knight]

This is where we disagree.

I agree pulling off two roles in one movie is a difficult task; when it's been done, usually actors only really shine in one role over the other one. Both Hammer's performances were cringe-worthy, which upset me because it was definitely a role that could have been fun to do as an up and coming actor, and he wasted it, double time.





Well, Hammer does seem like he is doing something right, since he was cast in the Clint Eastwood/DiCaprio Hoover film, while Porter is doing who knows what now?

Is that waste of space Friday Night Lights show still running? LOL

[Majik1387]

Well, Hammer does seem like he is doing something right, since he was cast in the Clint Eastwood/DiCaprio Hoover film, while Porter is doing who knows what now?
So Hammer is possibly better at kissing ass in the industry. Good for him.
Is that waste of space Friday Night Lights show still running? LOL
Says someone with a Lost avatar. :whatever:

[Dark Knight]

Porter is a better actor who actually looks the role.
Arm and Hammer leaves a lot to be desired after his horribly bland performance in The Social Network.






^^
Ridiculous post and you know it! :huh:

[Project862006]

bland lol he was one of the stand outs

[Dark Knight]

So Hammer is possibly better at kissing ass in the industry. Good for him.

Is that waste of space Friday Night Lights show still running? LOL
Says someone with a Lost avatar. :whatever:[/QUOTE]








Don't take it personal now and try to use rational thinking. If Friday Night Lights was anything special it would have been recognized in someway, shape or form within the industry.

It's a show for teens and tweens....period.

The next thing you will try and tell me, is that Friday Night Lights is a better series than Lost was? :doh: LOL

[Majik1387]

Don't take it personal now and try to use rational thinking.
:huh:
If Friday Night Lights was anything special it would have been recognized in someway, shape or form within the industry.
And it is.
It's a show teens and tweens....period.
So what.
The next thing you will try and tell me, is that Friday Night Lights is a better series than Lost was? :doh: LOL
It is and always will be, along with other shows.

[Mike22]

I know this won't please a lot of people, but my understanding was that they were going for something slightly more "modern" and "alien." Again, they're trying to get away from previous incarnations and do something a bit different, rebooting the franchise and character completely. It's still really early to know for sure though, and I'd bet they'll be playing around with several versions before settling. Regardless, I HIGHLY doubt that whatever they go with will stray too far from the standard elements of the "classic" design. I'm sure it will be instantly recognizable as Superman and won't be nearly as radical as some of the designs I've seen in other threads.
You're right, this isn't pleasing news at all. I was really scared to even ask the question in fear of finding out what you just told me.
The suit in SR was instantly recognizable, doesn't mean it was likable or even acceptable, but I have a feeling that I'm gonna be longing for the SR suit when the new one is revealed.
I seriously hope they come to their senses and just go ahead with the classic version. The tiny suit changes in SR annoyed me to a point where I couldn't look past it, so any further and honestly quite unnecessary changes will only make it worse for me. It seems like changes for the sake of change and that's not cool.
For me it doesn't even have to do with the changes themselves, it has to do with respecting the past and source material. They can allow themselves to change the suit with Batman, but Superman is Superman, and should be represented on the big screen as he has been in the comics and tv for all these years, plain and simply don't try to fix what's not broken.
When will WB learn this. I appreciate the news Gillberg, it's nice of you to share, I just wish it was more pleasant stuff.

[GreenKToo]

As long as its not a CG suit..I'm sorry, but I really don't care for what i've seen of GL's suit so far.

[Mike22]

As long as its not a CG suit..I'm sorry, but I really don't care for what i've seen of GL's suit so far.
I don't like the GL suit either. They overdid it with the muscles. It looks fake.

[GreenKToo]

Yup..I pray we dont get something like that..i'm all for seeing the muscles underneath but c'mon.

[Dark Knight]

As long as its not a CG suit..I'm sorry, but I really don't care for what i've seen of GL's suit so far.






I think what they are doing with the GL suits is on target and appropriate for the alien world of the GL Corps.

I think the GL suits are going to look otherworldly, powerful and alien and a construct of the ring as they should be in the film.

Seeing some silly spandex or rubber would be ridiculous.

[Sam]

I don't like the GL suit either. They overdid it with the muscles. It looks fake.

Plz, do me a favor and dont watch the damn movie.

Im tired of ppl crying like a baby all over because of GL movie with absolute NO REASON.

[Dark Knight]

I don't like the GL suit either. They overdid it with the muscles. It looks fake.






Umm....it's a constuct of the ring, it's not supposed to look real.

It's Sci-Fi dude! It's supposed to look like something from out of this world and alien!

Hello!

[GreenKToo]

seeing it the way it is looks pretty ridiculous to me..it should have been a blend of CG and real material imo.
I'll give it a chance and may like it..we shall see.

[Dark Knight]

Plz, do me a favor and dont watch the damn movie.

Im tired of ppl crying like a baby all over because of GL movie with absolute NO REASON.




Ridiculous isn't it? :o

[Mike22]

It kinda makes sense with the suit being CG with GL, but the execution is poor, at least from what I've seen so far.

CG should only be used to enhance what's already there, when it comes to Superman. a full on CG suit would be horrible for Superman. If that were to be the case, then for the love of God, go all out and just design the perfect Superman while you're at it, no need to limit it to just the suit.

[Dark Knight]

:huh:

And it is.

So what.

It is and always will be, along with other shows.




I read you like a book! LOL :whatever:

[Mike22]

Plz, do me a favor and dont watch the damn movie.

Im tired of ppl crying like a baby all over because of GL movie with absolute NO REASON.

Umm....it's a constuct of the ring, it's not supposed to look real.

It's Sci-Fi dude! It's supposed to look like something from out of this world and alien!

Hello!
Holy GOD, ONCE I commented on it and people go bat****. Calm the hell down. I don't even care all to much about it. Frikkin fanboys.

[Mike22]

Ridiculous isn't it? :o
O give me a ****ing break, The one time I comment on that suit and people lose their god damn minds. Unbelievable.:whatever:

[BH/HHH]

Jesus cant we discuss something on here without people getting personal with each other. If people (like myself) like Scott Porter for the role then fair enough.

[Dark Knight]

It kinda makes sense with the suit being CG with GL, but the execution is poor, at least from what I've seen so far.

CG should only be used to enhance what's already there, when it comes to Superman. a full on CG suit would be horrible for Superman. If that were to be the case, then for the love of God, go all out and just design the perfect Superman while you're at it, no need to limit it to just the suit.







We shall see when the film comes out.

[Dark Knight]

O give me a ****ing break, The one time I comment on that suit and people lose their god damn minds. Unbelievable.:whatever:






I know.....FANBOYS are unbelievable sometimes.

It's mind numbing. :doh:

[GreenKToo]

yup it is..never ceases to amaze me how others will attack posters because they don't like something that 'they' think is teh awesome. not everybody is gonna like the same thing.

[Rust]

Nope, so thank god most of us know how to play properly.

[Mike22]

I know.....FANBOYS are unbelievable sometimes.

It's mind numbing. :doh:
You made the assumption that I was one of those that complained about the GL suit since it's release, when I really had nothing to do with the crap that goes on in the GL sections. Yeah, don't expect a pleasant answer.

[GreenKToo]

anywho, I wonder if we'll get just a short list of actors in consideration, or maybe even the actual announcement of who will play him.

[Mike22]

Anything will do, just so we know what we're getting.

[GreenKToo]

Who gets cast as Superman is important of course, but i'm just as excited to see who gets cast as Lex, Lois, Jonathan/martha maybe Jor-el...exciting stuff..

[Mike22]

I can live with them miscasting some of the other roles, but to miscast Superman himself is a big no-no. But yeah, I do agree, it will be very exiting to see who the other cast members will be.

[GreenKToo]

I hope i'm not let down but I look for BIG names in the roles of Lex, Jonathan/martha, jor-el/lara, and Brainiac. Jor-el/lara and jonathan/martha probably won't be shown that long so I would think it wouldnt hurt them budget wise.
Who knows tho, could be a cast of unknowns.

[Man of Steel]

I can live with them miscasting some of the other roles, but to miscast Superman himself is a big no-no. But yeah, I do agree, it will be very exiting to see who the other cast members will be.

Miscatsing everyone except for Superman wa exactly what they did with Superman Returns. Sure, Routh was perfect but did that save the film, especcially with Hackman-style Spacey and Bosworth-less?

I hope i'm not let down but I look for BIG names in the roles of Lex, Jonathan/martha, jor-el/lara, and Brainiac. Jor-el/lara and jonathan/martha probably won't be shown that long so I would think it wouldnt hurt them budget wise.
Who knows tho, could be a cast of unknowns.

Marlon Brando got paid the most for his 10 minutes in STM.

[GreenKToo]

I know....

[Mike22]

Miscatsing everyone except for Superman wa exactly what they did with Superman Returns. Sure, Routh was perfect but did that save the film, especcially with Hackman-style Spacey and Bosworth-less?


WWhhat??? For me It was the other way around. Routh was the miscast one.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I hope i'm not let down but I look for BIG names in the roles of Lex, Jonathan/martha, jor-el/lara, and Brainiac. Jor-el/lara and jonathan/martha probably won't be shown that long so I would think it wouldnt hurt them budget wise.
Who knows tho, could be a cast of unknowns.

Enough unknowns. For this franchise I want people I know are awesome.

Lex - Daniel Craig

Jor-El/Lara - Jon Hamm and Lena Headey

Brainiac - Jason Isaacs

This has the potential to be one awesome movie, and they really need to tie it together with an awesome cast, not names that you have to google to find out who they are.

[I Am The Knight]

lol.

[GreenKToo]

Enough unknowns. For this franchise I want people I know are awesome.

Lex - Daniel Craig

Jor-El/Lara - Jon Hamm and Lena Headey

Brainiac - Jason Isaacs

This has the potential to be one awesome movie, and they really need to tie it together with an awesome cast, not names that you have to google to find out who they are.
Oh I agree, and said as much..I'd prefer well known names in the roles but we as of yet have no idea what snyder wants.

[Dark Knight]

Yeah I can definitely see Snyder casting some actors or actress' he has worked with previously.

I can see Butler, Headey, Gugino and Glenn mainly.

Butler as Zod, Headey as Lara, Gugino as Lara or Martha Kent and Scott Glenn as Perry or Jonathan Kent perhaps.

[Man of Tomorrow]

I wouldnt mind the actor who was Hollis Mason as Perry White.

He was badass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFsbL8hqU0&feature=player_detailpage#t=119s

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Steven McHattie

[Eddie Dean]

McHattie would be great as Perry White or Jonathan Kent.

[Strider14]

I would be shocked if they cast Porter. He just doesn't have the stature. Let's keep in mind that stature is not just about having a strong build, but a tall and strong build. I know some of you don't buy into the off-screen image concept, but all I can say is WB wants someone who is going to look the part on-screen and off-screen. They want someone that fans are going to "look up to" at public and media appearances as opposed to looking in the eye or down to. It is logical when you are investing millions in a movie that is depicting...arguably..the most iconic and recognized hero of all time that the actor looks the part off screen as well. You can use all the lifts and camera tricks you want to for on-screen, but when it comes to Ryan Seacrest interviewing him on ET and he doesn't look that imposing next to Ryan, it is going to be an issue with the studio.

Outside of that, I don't get the Superman vibe from Porter. He's a good enough actor and decent looking guy, but I just never would associate him with looking the part of Superman.

[Dark Knight]

I would be shocked if they cast Porter. He just doesn't have the stature. Let's keep in mind that stature is not just about having a strong build, but a tall and strong build. I know some of you don't buy into the off-screen image concept, but all I can say is WB wants someone who is going to look the part on-screen and off-screen. They want someone that fans are going to "look up to" at public and media appearances as opposed to looking in the eye or down to. It is logical when you are investing millions in a movie that is depicting...arguably..the most iconic and recognized hero of all time that the actor looks the part off screen as well. You can use all the lifts and camera tricks you want to for on-screen, but when it comes to Ryan Seacrest interviewing him on ET and he doesn't look that imposing next to Ryan, it is going to be an issue with the studio.

Outside of that, I don't get the Superman vibe from Porter. He's a good enough actor and decent looking guy, but I just never would associate him with looking the part of Superman.





Yeah, I would be shocked as well.

[shieldshero]

Porter doesn't resemble any interpretation of superman I've ever seen in the comics, or on the screen, maybe a little George reeves at a push. Don't get the support for him. . . would need lifts and a hairpiece too

As for 'Cavill gate' the other day, it's a sad world if that's why he's out. best choice I've seen on here by miles. . .

[Project862006]

porter looks more like cyclops lol

[Sub-Zero]

Porter doesn't resemble any interpretation of superman I've ever seen in the comics, or on the screen, maybe a little George reeves at a push. Don't get the support for him. . . would need lifts and a hairpiece too

As for 'Cavill gate' the other day, it's a sad world if that's why he's out. best choice I've seen on here by miles. . .


i still don't believe it. kevin spacey is way more "out" than cavill is, but he was cast in returns. sure he wasn't cast as superman , but still. so i call complete bs on that. sadly, if cavill gave a good performance in a movie about myspace he'd be the forum frontrunner :woot: i don't get why an "actor" can't "act" straight. nph plays a convincing womanizer on tv. like if the actor can act and show a great performance who cares what his sexuality is?

[Kal-El Fan]

Personally, if it was between Porter and Hammer, I'd go with Hammer.

[SuperZer0]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

[Wilde]

Not a bad audition, and it definitely seems to be a disguised Superman audition.

Never heard of him before, but has a really good look:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EhD_0sDfQFM/Sl_Q2ohaFDI/AAAAAAAAE7U/KM7mwppI3zA/Todd%20Cahoon.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/Sg7oNkj4ZVI/AAAAAAAA42E/nCTROnAkXgM/s400/ToddCahoon06.jpg

Looks like Superman to me!

[Jake Cassidy]

Personally, if it was between Porter and Hammer, I'd go with Hammer.

Me too.

Porter should be the Flash. If WB really likes him, as gillberg and others have said, than I can see that happening.

[Midnight Black]

The new pic of Tom Welling for the final season promo has me rethinking him as a strong candidate.

[DorkyFresh]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

good look...wooden performance. he keeps doing an endless/emotionless stare and he's pretty monotone. unless he's got something else up his sleeve, i'd pass. thanks for bringing him up though.

[Alonsovich]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

Wait a minute... if that is legitimate, it means those are casting sides for the film, meaning that actual dialogue is/was in at least a draft of the script...

[Strider14]

good look...wooden performance. he keeps doing an endless/emotionless stare and he's pretty monotone. unless he's got something else up his sleeve, i'd pass... I have to agree with you there. He has lacks charisma, which is what I felt Routh lacked. Whoever plays the part needs to deliver that special charisma. Add in the fact he is 5'10" and that doesn't cut if for me.

If that is a draft of the actual script, I am not impressed. Clark Kent, the boy scout is reading women's text messages on their cell phones and taking their phone number without them knowing? Are they going to go the same route as the SR Superman?

[Asgard]

Todd's got a couple of things not going for him.

Too short.
Too old.

Did we ever hear of any scripts being sent in by Goyer before November last year?

[Asgard]

Todd's got a couple of things not going for him.

Too short.
Too old.

Did we ever hear of any scripts being sent in by Goyer before November last year?

[Alonsovich]

I have to agree with you there. He has lacks charisma, which is what I felt Routh lacked. Whoever plays the part needs to deliver that special charisma. Add in the fact he is 5'10" and that doesn't cut if for me.

If that is a draft of the actual script, I am not impressed. Clark Kent, the boy scout is reading women's text messages on their cell phones and taking their phone number without them knowing? Are they going to go the same route as the SR Superman?

He also did that in STM. The color of Lois' underwear and her cigarettes... it just depends on the situation and how it's pulled off. Also if I remember correctly there were also differences in the TDK casting sides that leaked and what was filmed. In the bank robbery sides the Joker shot the bank manager in cold blood after the reveal saying "It's rude to stare..." In the film he did the thread + smoke grenade thing. That could be dialogue from a draft and that same part could even end up not being filmed...

[DorkyFresh]

couple more photos of Spencer Conway...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs072.snc6/168232_184730794879773_161122837240569_611745_9861 40_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1362.snc4/163404_184733851546134_161122837240569_611767_1527 54_n.jpg

[Majik1387]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/
Great look, too bad his delivery was so dry and uncharismatic.

[Strider14]

He also did that in STM. The color of Lois' underwear and her cigarettes... it just depends on the situation and how it's pulled off. Also if I remember correctly there were also differences in the TDK casting sides that leaked and what was filmed. In the bank robbery sides the Joker shot the bank manager in cold blood after the reveal saying "It's rude to stare..." In the film he did the thread + smoke grenade thing. That could be dialogue from a draft and that same part could even end up not being filmed...

Well, this may sound strange, but I think the basic see through someone's clothing is going to be hard to avoid for someone with x-ray vision. Could almost happen accidentally, whereas actually reading text messages is going a little more extreme, but I see what your saying. We all have different perspectives.

That new image of Conway (top one) definitely makes it look like he is bulking up for a shot at the role. I have to say, for overall look and build I really like Conway. His acting is the only real unknown. I haven't seen enough to determine whether he is a good or bad actor. A strong theater background is a plus.

[jesusmagicka]

couple more photos of Spencer Conway...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs072.snc6/168232_184730794879773_161122837240569_611745_9861 40_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1362.snc4/163404_184733851546134_161122837240569_611767_1527 54_n.jpg

Do you just spend your free time on Google hitting refresh until new Spencer pics pop up?

Anyways, he does look right for the part. Wouldn't mind seein' more of him.

[DorkyFresh]

he's got a facebook fan page :P

[XxDelta09xX]

Not a bad audition, and it definitely seems to be a disguised Superman audition.

Never heard of him before, but has a really good look:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EhD_0sDfQFM/Sl_Q2ohaFDI/AAAAAAAAE7U/KM7mwppI3zA/Todd%20Cahoon.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/Sg7oNkj4ZVI/AAAAAAAA42E/nCTROnAkXgM/s400/ToddCahoon06.jpg

Looks like Superman to me!

This guy doesn't seem so bad.:woot:

[DorkyFresh]

did you watch his audition? his performance was painfully boring. again...great look, but his acting leaves a lot to be desired.

[Aesop Rocks]

His performance had some good parts, but yeah, he was boring.

[Man of Tomorrow]

He's 5'10 and 37 ...

[I Am The Knight]

I don't think he has the right look. Something "off" about it.

[Frodo]

He reminds me of Clive Owen a bit, and has the same kinda vibe.

[That-Guy]

I liked his audition. I disagree with the ones saying he lacked charisma. I don't know if any of you are actors (professional, volunteer, whatever) but for those who are, you'll know that auditions can be very tough because if it is a cold read (and I'm thinking that this might have been because he had the script with him) with someone who is just reading lines and not actually acting the other part (and that seems to be the case here) it can be difficult to maintain your focus, but he didn't break character there. Also, you often have to be subtle because you don't specifically know what the director wants, beyond the basics. So you have to sort of play it safe while "wowing" them at the same time. Not very easy to do.

I'm not sure if he's right for Superman but I'd like to see more of him in something. He definitely has talent. I've only ever seen him as that weasel agent guy on Nip/Tuck but I think he's leading man material. Superman? Not sure, though I did see some Kal-El in the scene with the priest. It reminded me of the beginning of "For Tomorrow," if any of you have read that story.

[DorkyFresh]

i did 2 years of theatrical arts, have participated in a few video productions, and do some voice acting here and there...but you don't need to have been an actor to notice good/bad acting. you're right when you say that cold reads can be hard, but that was pretty bad imo. there's a difference between being subtle and being bland and he was the latter. i understand that you don't want to be exaggerated or too personalized, because you have to be a little generic so the director can see that he'd be able to work with you....but at the same time, the director has to see that you have a certain spark or magic when you're performing and i saw nothing of the sort from that audition.

[That-Guy]

Okay.

[Astrodust]

Man I hate to sound mean but he made Sam Worthington seem good. More than anything now, I realize that we need an actor first and foremost. I'll take great actor with a good Superman look rather than vice versa. However this video could be a warm-up for his real audition as I doubt WB would let him keep his audition video. In that case we can't really judge him from this video. Not fully at least.

[GreenKToo]

i'm guessing he got told 'no thanx' by wb since he put that up on youtube? and if not, then he prolly soon will be.

[elgaz]

Definitely a no thanks I'd imagine - if he was accepted, that audition would be kept for a special DVD release sometime down the line. He has a great facial look, but comes across as a very bland actor. And whilst I hate to repeat the height thing again ........................... I just don't think a 5"10 Superman will work. He doesn't have to be in the 6"7 Daniel Cudmore range, but at the same time I don't want this Superman to be smaller than a lot of people around him or simply look 'average'. Anything from 6"1 to 6"4 would be nice.

I'm still not getting the vibe from Spencer Conway, and I don't know why - I mean, he looks very good in those pics above, but there's just something lacking which I can't put my finger on.

[Astrodust]

No to Spencer Conway as well. I don't know why people insist on using that one black and white pick where we see half of his face. In full light he looks nothing like Superman. Though he has a good build.

[hopefuldreamer]

No matter who they cast, i'm going to force myself to look at this picture:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/09/nickcage.jpg


and be damn grateful for what we are getting.

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

Ummmm... did anyone just watch that right to the end? To the part where 'Superman' says he sneaked a look at 'Lois'' phone when she went to the bathroom, and even read her messages, and then starts teasing her about a message she sent someone about a Brazillian wax?

I mean, some of it is passable as a Superman script, but that kind of made me go 'ah... no, that's nonsense'.

[baleheadbrasil]

No to Spencer Conway as well. I don't know why people insist on using that one black and white pick where we see half of his face. In full light he looks nothing like Superman. Though he has a good build.

Agreed.
No to Spencer Conway.

[JAK®]

No to Spencer Conway as well. I don't know why people insist on using that one black and white pick where we see half of his face. In full light he looks nothing like Superman. Though he has a good build.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/spencerconway.jpg

Yeah... absolutely nothing like Superman...

[GreenKToo]

Ummmm... did anyone just watch that right to the end? To the part where 'Superman' says he sneaked a look at 'Lois'' phone when she went to the bathroom, and even read her messages, and then starts teasing her about a message she sent someone about a Brazillian wax?

I mean, some of it is passable as a Superman script, but that kind of made me go 'ah... no, that's nonsense'.
yeah, and did he come across as kinda gruff to you? like the line where he asked her 'why the hell are you here?' I'm not complaining, just curious.

[Mike22]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

Given how he's put this thing up on youtube, I'd say he's not much of a contender.

But seriously though, this announcement is taking a long time, we should've heard something by now.

[GreenKToo]

It is..I thought we would have heard about some sort of list by now.

[JAK®]

Exactly why should we have heard something by now?

[klark cent]

No to Spencer Conway as well. I don't know why people insist on using that one black and white pick where we see half of his face. In full light he looks nothing like Superman. Though he has a good build.

Agreed. He can be another DC hero (or villain like for instance putting a goatie on him makes him look like Dr. Arthur Light) but not Supes... Sorry to nitpick but I can't stand looking at color close-up pic with his mouth/smile reminding me of a French mime... Next...

[GreenKToo]

because it starts filming in less than 6 months, and unless the guy they cast is already in perfect shape, he'll need time to prepare, which means they'll prolly need to cast sooner rather than later, hence the reason we're wondering why we havent heard about any rumored candidates. ( other than hammer and porter

EDIT: I know this isn't SR, (different director, etc) but we heard about several candidates weeks and months before routh was announced.

[elgaz]

I think it's very likely at this stage they will go with someone who's already in tremendous physical shape and wouldn't need much work to go to Superman level - for example, Joe Manganiello.

[Mike22]

because it starts filming in less than 6 months, and unless the guy they cast is already in perfect shape, he'll need time to prepare, which means they'll prolly need to cast sooner rather than later, hence the reason we're wondering why we havent heard about any rumored candidates. ( other than hammer and porter)

Exactly.
And I seriously doubt that who ever is picked isn't gonna need at least 3 months of workout even if he's already in good shape. "Good" is not enough for Superman, he needs to look big and powerful and that will require a lot of time and effort.

[GreenKToo]

I think it's very likely at this stage they will go with someone who's already in tremendous physical shape and wouldn't need much work to go to Superman level - for example, Joe Manganiello.
that would be wild if he gets it after everyone has pretty much dismissed him.

[elgaz]

A lot of people dismissed him based solely on that statement he made a few months back, but as I've said before, the statement could be taken in many different ways. None of us really know if he's still in the running or not ............... if he ever was.

[klark cent]

Exactly.
And I seriously doubt that who ever is picked isn't gonna need at least 3 months of workout even if he's already in good shape. "Good" is not enough for Superman, he needs to look big and powerful and that will require a lot of time and effort.

The CGI rumor for muscle effect sounds more true if the actor is not in great shape in this case... couple that with the short list rumor as fallback plan if they cannot find a good candidate in time... C'mon WB, give us a little something for the new year :cwink:

[GreenKToo]

It would get pretty ugly if they cast a guy thats kinda on the small side, but give him CG muscles. I think folks would literally laugh at such an idea.

[Man of Tomorrow]

Todd may have got eliminated early on due to his age.

Probably why it ended up on Youtube.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Obviously it looks like the tape was sent in by the guy, and/or his representation, and the YouTube account (whether it's operated by him, an associate or fan) is putting it out there for awareness. If this was done by WB/Legendary Pictures, no way would it have gotten out.

[JamalYIgle]

Given how he's put this thing up on youtube, I'd say he's not much of a contender.

But seriously though, this announcement is taking a long time, we should've heard something by now.

Wasn't there a kid who auditioned to play Billy Conners in the new Spider-Man movie who did the same thing?
I think the rule should be "if it shows up on Youtube, he probably didn't get the part."

[Antonello Blueberry]

I think Josh Hutcherson did a tape for the Peter Parker role.
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-josh-hutcherson-s-spider-man-audition-video-10637

[That-Guy]

Come on guys, we all know how that audition video got leaked.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/Julian-Assange.jpg?t=1294241440

[klark cent]

It would get pretty ugly if they cast a guy thats kinda on the small side, but give him CG muscles. I think folks would literally laugh at such an idea.

True. If they do need to use CG muscles in this day and age of moviemaking to create impact, I'm open to the idea of 'sculpting' the actor when in Superman uniform to emphasize body shape but I cringe on the thought if they go further by making the actor look bulkier/gain muscle mass...

Speaking of CG, anybody know what company/services did Snyder use for 300, Sucker Punch, etc. Is it ILM or Sony or something else?

[JAK®]

Sony Imageworks for Watchmen.

[Lobo]

Hammer is my top choice, so if the Hoover pic doesnt interfere he is who I want. Porter I still hope for him to be Barry Allen

[Man of Tomorrow]

I think Josh Hutcherson did a tape for the Peter Parker role.
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-josh-hutcherson-s-spider-man-audition-video-10637

And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXgxme9cigY

[Bruce_Begins]

Routh did train and worked out in gym for five-six months plus he had to train for wire harness and did under water training, not to mention posture training for preparation for the role.

Apart from that he had to go for several suit fitting tests and CGI modeling after that.

If we do not get any announcement by Feb, thaen that will mean that they might use a smaller actor and give him CGI suit that will have CGI muscles.

[I Am The Knight]

Come on guys, we all know how that audition video got leaked.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/Julian-Assange.jpg?t=1294241440

Hahaha.

And can we not get into the Conway thing again... He has "audtion" videos on Youtube too, you know :o

[That-Guy]

I really hope they don't do the CGI suit/muscle thing. That just sounds like a cop-out because they don't think they'll cast an actor who looks the part AND can play it.

I'm cool with the CGI suit in GL because it's supposed to look like it's made of energy. But while Superman suit should look alien... it shouldn't look like it's alive.

[darkzombiemutt]

Should it look alien? I mean Im not against it, but the most common take is that his mommy made it for him.

[BH/HHH]

Not a bad audition, and it definitely seems to be a disguised Superman audition.

Never heard of him before, but has a really good look:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EhD_0sDfQFM/Sl_Q2ohaFDI/AAAAAAAAE7U/KM7mwppI3zA/Todd%20Cahoon.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/Sg7oNkj4ZVI/AAAAAAAA42E/nCTROnAkXgM/s400/ToddCahoon06.jpg

Looks like Superman to me!

Has a good look kind of reminds me of Gerard Christopher

[Maze]

I knew i had already seen that guy, somebody suggested him month ago, he had a small part in nip tuck among other. I find him average, but maybe with the right director.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Uv5N1urcU

[I Am The Knight]

I don't want a GL suit repeat. Have GL be unique. It's it's own thing. But Superman should look more traditional. There's really no reason to go the CGI route.

[BH/HHH]

TV actor Todd Cahoon has posted his audition for Superman: Man of Steel on YouTube. It says it's for the role of "Patrick", but it might be a disguise for Superman/Clark Kent. This seems quite legitimate, plus it was posted on November 24th, which is around the timeframe that they were searching for the new Supes.

NeYfuZVwXN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYfuZVwXN0

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128737/

I wonder if its genuine, hes too relaxed for Superman for me. I doubt thats actualk dialogue from the film aswell.

[Bruce_Begins]

I don't want a CGI suit with CGI muscles, and using CGI to make a shorter / smaller frame actor look tall / big.

If they can't find a suitable candidate for Supes who looks the part, can act reasonably well, is tall and right age, then I would rather have Routh back in the role.

[BH/HHH]

I don't want a GL suit repeat. Have GL be unique. It's it's own thing. But Superman should look more traditional. There's really no reason to go the CGI route.

Agreed :up:

It makes sense for the way Green Lantern is been done, the suit is a construct of light created by the ring but Superman's costume is supposed to be material.