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Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 01:26 AM
Then you need to see Armie in "Billy" and you'll see an actor with incredible range and charisma.
http://style.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/armie-hammer.jpg
There's soething , the voice, the look, the easy charm, There's something in Amrie, when he's interviewed that I don't see in Joe. A comfortable feeling that just screams "Superman" to me.


Either of these guys would be a good choice.

XxDelta09xX
01-22-2011, 03:13 AM
Here are a couple of the most recent shots of Joe M.:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/JoeM.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/JoeM2.jpg

I can really see Superman in that second pic.:woot:

Octoberist
01-22-2011, 04:08 AM
Hammer looks like a mix of John Krasinski and Elijah Wood. Doesn't really add up to Superman.

Maybe..Elijah but you're reaching with Krasinski.

BH/HHH
01-22-2011, 05:03 AM
That manips awesome

elgaz
01-22-2011, 05:30 AM
Wtih regards to Joe looking sinister, someone made a good point there that it's only really when he's called to pose looking 'tough' for certain photos.

And the constant beard and slick hair doesn't help with the thuggish look, but he's gotta keep his look like that for True Blood.

Give him short hair and some better poses and he looks like a different guy. Also, to me, the nose is really noticeable when he's looking straight on at the camera - which rarely happens in a movie. Watching him in motion on TV, you'd rarely notice his nose.

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/joe-manganiello-as-owen.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v2oHoXQ2OBk/TRige23IlrI/AAAAAAAAEdA/Z5ugHAImykA/s1600/JoeManganiello-1.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt49/Imrahil/Men/JoeManganiello1.jpg

http://newsodrome.com/humor_news/omg-his-butt-joe-manganiello-19123750.jpg

And just to emphasise Joe's size again, here he is beside Triple H, who's a pretty big guy.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bM02KRpjW9w/TGqRjqeUunI/AAAAAAAASRc/xAAcr_GIKMU/s1600/61303534lynnpd814201015203PM.jpg

baleheadbrasil
01-22-2011, 05:39 AM
So,Joe Manganiello for Superman!
He is a more "ok" choice.
No Armie Hammer,please!

GreenKToo
01-22-2011, 06:29 AM
He's got my vote.

Violet Lantern
01-22-2011, 06:49 AM
I could live with him but I still think Armie Hammer seems more like Supes.

Alonsovich
01-22-2011, 06:58 AM
I could live with him but I still think Armie Hammer seems more like Supes.

This. Joe is darker material. With more weight he looks like a clone of TAS Batman. This would be like casting a 6'5 DJ Cotrona style Superman.

darkzombiemutt
01-22-2011, 07:17 AM
Armie has a good voice, but to me, his face looks like he was 12 years old last year before hitting a massive growth spurt. There is nothing Supermanly about it.

At least Joe looks like a grown up.

That said, I think Warners needs to keep looking.

Violet Lantern
01-22-2011, 07:26 AM
I like how young Hammer looks. I want Clark/Kal-El/Superman to be under 30 in this.

GreenKToo
01-22-2011, 07:39 AM
Moviehole has picked it up....

http://www.moviehole.net/201135962-true-blood-star-superman-frontrunner

Antonello Blueberry
01-22-2011, 07:56 AM
For the record I'm 100% Italian (I live in Rome) and I look more like Paul Giamatti than Manganiello...

FilmNerdJamie
01-22-2011, 08:18 AM
For the record I'm 100% Italian (I live in Rome) and I look more like Paul Giamatti than Manganiello...

Half Irish/half Italian myself.

Green Ghost
01-22-2011, 08:36 AM
Armie has a good voice, but to me, his face looks like he was 12 years old last year before hitting a massive growth spurt. There is nothing Supermanly about it.

At least Joe looks like a grown up.

That said, I think Warners needs to keep looking.

I agree!

aka Kal el
01-22-2011, 11:35 AM
I can really see Superman in that second pic.:woot:

I still think Armie Hammer is going to get this or at least be offered the role. Joe Mags could surprise a few people. He played a very CK like role in this short lived sitcom. I wish I had the whole episode to show you he could pull it off. But here is the trailer to give you an idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gj09b_Rz74&feature=related:word:

aka Kal el
01-22-2011, 12:02 PM
Try as I might I'm just not down with Joe, I can't picture him as a convincing Clark, he'd be but a slightly sinister, bro-ish Superman.

I think we should keep a real close eye on Zack Levi! There maybe a reason he denied that rumor. He is now aggressively looking to make the move to leading man roles. He just changed agencies for that exact purpose.Though I think the role is Hammer's to lose unless he doesn't like the offer.Zack might make a good Reed Richards in FF reboot.

Just to give you an idea what Zack Levi would look like as Supes and CK here are a few pics to do as manips. Also don't forget he was Fandrel in Thor but had to b/o because of Chuck. I would but a bet on him at least getting a screen test.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm295734272/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3098251008/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3092025600/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2703787776/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1352959744/nm1157048

storyteller
01-22-2011, 12:21 PM
I could picture more like flash then a Superman. More of a grown up teen titan then any of the real superheroes.

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 12:27 PM
I think we should keep a real close eye on Zack Levi! There maybe a reason he denied that rumor. He is now aggressively looking to make the move to leading man roles. He just changed agencies for that exact purpose.Though I think the role is Hammer's to lose unless he doesn't like the offer.Zack might make a good Reed Richards in FF reboot.

Just to give you an idea what Zack Levi would look like as Supes and CK here are a few pics to do as manips. Also don't forget he was Fandrel in Thor but had to b/o because of Chuck. I would but a bet on him at least getting a screen test.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm295734272/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3098251008/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3092025600/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2703787776/nm1157048
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1352959744/nm1157048



If he was raised by the Brady family rather than Ma and Pa Kent it might work.

Otherwise a Greg Brady look alike really ain't gonna cut it.

Superark
01-22-2011, 12:28 PM
Moviehole has picked it up....

http://www.moviehole.net/201135962-true-blood-star-superman-frontrunner

I think Joe M. is one of the worst choices. My interest in this movie would drop significantly if he were chosen

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 12:32 PM
I think Joe M. is one of the worst choices. My interest in this movie would drop significantly if he were chosen



Your young you'll get over it.:cwink:

Superark
01-22-2011, 12:38 PM
Your young you'll get over it.:cwink:


Lol I'm old enough to play Superman :oldrazz:

But seriously, I already have my reservations about this film due to Snyder being chosen and if Joe was chosen for the role I wouldn't have much excitment about the film at all.

DaJanksta
01-22-2011, 01:07 PM
I'd take Joe over Armie Hammer any day. I don't like his 5 head or baby(soft) features. At least Joe looks like he can kick someones ass.

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Lol I'm old enough to play Superman :oldrazz:

But seriously, I already have my reservations about this film due to Snyder being chosen and if Joe was chosen for the role I wouldn't have much excitment about the film at all.


Unless of course they show a picture of him decked out as Superman and he actually looks awesome, which is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Mostpowerful
01-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Wow, this Joe guy is a really bad choice, imo. He looks nothing like Clark Kent to me.

I compare Brandon as Supes to him and no, he doesn't cut it, he's just not likeable enough either. He totally has the wrong presence, imo. Joe's nose is very distracting, ugh.

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae54/luv4elvisboards/brffpicofthemoment/Premiere_000.jpg


http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/joe-manganiello-as-owen.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v2oHoXQ2OBk/TRige23IlrI/AAAAAAAAEdA/Z5ugHAImykA/s1600/JoeManganiello-1.jpg


I think Joe M. is one of the worst choices. My interest in this movie would drop significantly if he were chosen

Agreed.

Superark
01-22-2011, 01:18 PM
Unless of course they show a picture of him decked out as Superman and he actually looks awesome, which is not beyond the realms of possibility.


If he's chosen and there's footage/pic of him where he looks and just screams Superman, I'll give him his due. But as of now, there's nothing Superman about him at all, IMO. There's nothing special about his acting or his look. He doesn't exude charm or charisma. The best thing he has going about him is his build, that's it.

There are a lot better choices out there than Joe M.

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 01:21 PM
Wow, this Joe guy is a really bad choice, imo. He looks nothing like Clark Kent to me.

I compare Brandon as Supes to him and no, he doesn't cut it, he's just not likeable enough either. He totally has the wrong presence, imo. Joe's nose is very distracting, ugh.

[IMG]http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae54/luv4elvisboards/brffpicofthemoment/Premiere_000.jpg[/IMG





Agreed.


Yeah Joe's nose is HUGE, and (Brandon who I liked in SR btw) is so tiny.:whatever:

Incidentally the first pic of Joe totally looks suitable for a manly gritty Supes afaik.

Tra-El
01-22-2011, 01:23 PM
If he's chosen and there's footage/pic of him where he looks and just screams Superman, I'll give him his due. But as of now, there's nothing Superman about him at all, IMO. There's nothing special about his acting or his look. He doesn't exude charm or charisma. The best thing he has going about him is his build, that's it.

There are a lot better choices out there than Joe M.

But for every opinion of that, there will be another that thinks the exact opposite. People are leaning into too much off of pictures and a small t.v series to determine a big role like Superman. I'm sure Nolan and Snyder has been looking their ass's off for the next Supes and they know the significance of this movie for the comic/cinema franchise.

I won't pass judgment on anyone because ALL of these pictures that we are seeing isn't the actors in Superman-mode. None of it. If WB see's something in Joe M, then I trust their judgment because he HAD to of wow'd them if he is indeed the front-runner to land the gig. The guy is scruffy right now and most pics out there he doesn't pose in any Super like stance.

I'm sure if Joe M gets it, he'll magically transform into Clark Kent, as would anyone else. It's the matter of what Snyder is looking for at this point.

Mostpowerful
01-22-2011, 01:36 PM
Yeah Joe's nose is HUGE, and (Brandon who I liked in SR btw) is so tiny.:whatever:

Incidentally the first pic of Joe totally looks suitable for a manly gritty Supes afaik.

I never said Brandon's nose was tiny. It isn't, but it looks perfect on his face and for Superman. Unlike Joe.





http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/joe-manganiello-as-owen.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v2oHoXQ2OBk/TRige23IlrI/AAAAAAAAEdA/Z5ugHAImykA/s1600/JoeManganiello-1.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz17/wickus/Chuck_312_0834.jpg

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 01:37 PM
I'll take Joe M over Armand any day of the week!

Superark
01-22-2011, 01:47 PM
But for every opinion of that, there will be another that thinks the exact opposite. People are leaning into too much off of pictures and a small t.v series to determine a big role like Superman. I'm sure Nolan and Snyder has been looking their ass's off for the next Supes and they know the significance of this movie for the comic/cinema franchise.

I won't pass judgment on anyone because ALL of these pictures that we are seeing isn't the actors in Superman-mode. None of it. If WB see's something in Joe M, then I trust their judgment because he HAD to of wow'd them if he is indeed the front-runner to land the gig. The guy is scruffy right now and most pics out there he doesn't pose in any Super like stance.

I'm sure if Joe M gets it, he'll magically transform into Clark Kent, as would anyone else. It's the matter of what Snyder is looking for at this point.


Of course there are always going to be different opinions. I respect everyone and their choice, even if I don't agree.

All we have to go by is pictures and the roles they've played in. There's nothing wrong in using that to make up your mind on who you do or don't want for the role. I'm certainly not going to assume just because said Director/producers liked that person for the role that they'll make a good choice. People are miscast all the time.

I know people like to think because Nolan is involved with the project that they'll make nothing but the right choices, but that is dumb assumption

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Of course there are always going to be different opinions. I respect everyone and their choice, even if I don't agree.

All we have to go by is pictures and the roles they've played in. There's nothing wrong in using that to make up your mind on who you do or don't want for the role. I'm certainly not going to assume just because said Director/producers liked that person for the role that they'll make a good choice. People are miscast all the time.

I know people like to think because Nolan is involved with the project that they'll make nothing but the right choices, but that is dumb assumption



Well Nolan has a pretty good track record, so whomever gets picked will likely be very good.

Project862006
01-22-2011, 01:54 PM
joe has too much of a jock bro man look to him he does'nt give off this all american good guy boy scout aura

HighFivingMF
01-22-2011, 01:56 PM
I'll take Joe M over Armand any day of the week!
Do what?

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 01:56 PM
LAWL.

Someone manip this please :o

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v2oHoXQ2OBk/TRige23IlrI/AAAAAAAAEdA/Z5ugHAImykA/s1600/JoeManganiello-1.jpg

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 02:00 PM
LAWL.

Someone manip this please :o

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v2oHoXQ2OBk/TRige23IlrI/AAAAAAAAEdA/Z5ugHAImykA/s1600/JoeManganiello-1.jpg

Try doing a manip on the large headshot that was above that picture. That one has lots of potential.

Man of Tomorrow
01-22-2011, 02:00 PM
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz17/wickus/Chuck_312_0834.jpg

:super:

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 02:09 PM
:super:


Most people know Brandon would still look good for the role, (probably the best of all candidates) but unfortunately that isn't likely to happen.

Man of Tomorrow
01-22-2011, 02:12 PM
Most people know Brandon would still look good for the role, (probably the best of all candidates) but unfortunately that isn't likely to happen.

That's why I'd prefer a new complete unknown if Brandon is gone.

Micah12345
01-22-2011, 02:13 PM
I prefer joe's look to routh's look.

Man of Tomorrow
01-22-2011, 02:22 PM
To me, Joe has always looked like a douchbag/meathead type, though I wouldn't complain too much about that aspect.

I'm more concerned with the fact that he seems to have a niche for playing those types of 'dumb jock' characters (or sex object characters), I can't picture him as the wholesome blue boyscout, even when he smiles.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/17/alg_joe_manganiello.jpg

http://www.fitceleb.com/files/joe24.jpg

He comes off more like a thug, or hired muscle. I'd prefer him as a side villain if anything.

Project862006
01-22-2011, 02:37 PM
^thats exactly how i feel he has this meat head bro man look to him that i cant see in superman at all

brandon wont come back but he has that wholesome good guy look

chris evans as cap has the good guy look as well

this is just a trait i want in my supes

GreenKToo
01-22-2011, 03:26 PM
Lol I'm old enough to play Superman :oldrazz:

But seriously, I already have my reservations about this film due to Snyder being chosen and if Joe was chosen for the role I wouldn't have much excitment about the film at all.
really? I think Joe would do just fine. He actually wants the role for something other than just a paycheck.

GreenKToo
01-22-2011, 03:29 PM
Yeah Joe's nose is HUGE, and (Brandon who I liked in SR btw) is so tiny.:whatever:

Incidentally the first pic of Joe totally looks suitable for a manly gritty Supes afaik.
Lol. I was thinking the same thing when she posted joe's and routh's pics.
The nose arguement is so silly..laughable even.

Astrodust
01-22-2011, 03:35 PM
I think if the new poll is any indication, only a small percentage of people see Superman in Joe M. Also both Joe and Hammer have vastly different looks. I guess it would depend on what Snyder wants for his film. Cavill has them both beat looks wise though.



http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k613/female_earth/MySupermancopycopy.jpg?t=1292557748[/QUOTE]

edit: not my manip.

Tra-El
01-22-2011, 03:39 PM
My strong-suite isn't photopshop, I'm bored so I figured I'd give a quick Joe M. one for imaginary reasons.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8142/jmsm.jpg

DorkyFresh
01-22-2011, 03:46 PM
^thats exactly how i feel he has this meat head bro man look to him that i cant see in superman at all

brandon wont come back but he has that wholesome good guy look

chris evans as cap has the good guy look as well

this is just a trait i want in my supes

Spencer says "Hello!" :D

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs179.ash2/44265_161123133907206_161122837240569_448796_23713 61_n.jpg

the good thing about Spence is that he can also look like a tough guy when needed...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/Casting/conway-tough1.jpg

SuperMike335!!
01-22-2011, 03:56 PM
Joe Manganiello looks VERY wholesome.

Those who don't like him are just anti-Italian, look up racist, heck that makes you even MORE racist than Hitler. Even HE tolerated Italians in his Axis. I mean do you want to be MORE racist than Hitler? :awesome: Cuz that's what not liking Joe Manganiello makes you. :oldrazz:

You people (:cwink:) Just need to learn to be tolerant of an Italian playing Superman, without calling him names like "meathead" etc...

Not wholesome. pffft... If I had a friend who looked like him he would be the first friend I called after a breakup to help console me (as my wingman) when I would go out to find someone to help me get over my breakup.

He looks a lot like Superman. Keep in mind it is not a doe eyed wimp we are casting for here. It is SuperMAN! :woot:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4162/manofsteelbyjeromekmoor.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5306/joem.jpg
If my above post has offended you in any way GOOD. Now get over yourself and stop being so serious. :cwink:

DCnightwing23
01-22-2011, 03:59 PM
I think with the proper haircut Joe's nose problem would go away, or maybe just be less noticeable. He's not my pick for Superman but i definitely think he should be looked at atleast.

Astrodust
01-22-2011, 04:01 PM
Unlike some of the other actors like Hammer, Hamm, and Cavill, I actually have to try to look hard to see Joe M. as Superman. Not saying he can't do it, but he probably looks the least. Perhaps he looks the best out of everyone when in the suit but I'm just basing it on his face.

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 04:05 PM
I'll give you Hamm and Cavill, who was actually my pick. But Hammer? It's with Hammer that I have a hard time picturing Superman.

cronosred
01-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Wow, this Joe guy is a really bad choice, imo. He looks nothing like Clark Kent to me.

I compare Brandon as Supes to him and no, he doesn't cut it, he's just not likeable enough either. He totally has the wrong presence, imo. Joe's nose is very distracting, ugh.



Visually Routh was never my ideal Superman so I'm not upset he won't be returning. I'm really excited to see who Snyder casts, hopefully he will do a better job then Singer did.

GoblinWhirlwind
01-22-2011, 04:18 PM
I'll give you Hamm and Cavill, who was actually my pick. But Hammer? It's with Hammer that I have a hard time picturing Superman.

You and me both. I dread the thought of Hammer as Superman.

Hamm was my number one choice for several years, but since they apparently wanted a younger Superman it went to Cavill. I came around to Joe M, and now I'd definitely be cool if with it if he got the role. I sorta like the Conway dude, but he's at the bottom of my list. Any of those four I'd be happy with.

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 04:23 PM
Spencer says "Hello!" :D

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs179.ash2/44265_161123133907206_161122837240569_448796_23713 61_n.jpg

the good thing about Spence is that he can also look like a tough guy when needed...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/SHH%20stuff/Casting/conway-tough1.jpg

Hello! and hopefully Goodbye. Sorry but this isn't the guy.

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 04:28 PM
And why not?

Kurosawa
01-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Neal Adams' Superman reminds me of Joe a little:

http://www.supermantv.net/articles/gallery/nealadamssuperman.jpg

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 04:41 PM
You and me both. I dread the thought of Hammer as Superman.

Hamm was my number one choice for several years, but since they apparently wanted a younger Superman it went to Cavill. I came around to Joe M, and now I'd definitely be cool if with it if he got the role. I sorta like the Conway dude, but he's at the bottom of my list. Any of those four I'd be happy with.

Yeah, Joe's got my support right now.

Hello! and hopefully Goodbye. Sorry but this isn't the guy.

It's been his pick for a while. I don't think he actually expects him to be cast.

GoblinWhirlwind
01-22-2011, 04:49 PM
Neal Adams' Superman reminds me of Joe a little:

http://www.supermantv.net/articles/gallery/nealadamssuperman.jpg

Joe reminds me of Lee Bermejo's Superman... who I've thought since Snyder was announced should do the art design for the movie.

Stephen K. Hone
01-22-2011, 05:07 PM
And why not?



More to the point why so?? He isn't an ugly guy, but for Superman there is something off...unbalanced about his face. Almost Bruce Campbell-ish. Sorry but it's not working for me. I think Snyder would bring Routh back before he used this guy.

Kurosawa
01-22-2011, 05:08 PM
I like his art but not his leather looking Superman costume or the absurdly large \S/.

DorkyFresh
01-22-2011, 06:10 PM
It's been his pick for a while. I don't think he actually expects him to be cast.

bingo!

More to the point why so?? He isn't an ugly guy, but for Superman there is something off...unbalanced about his face. Almost Bruce Campbell-ish. Sorry but it's not working for me. I think Snyder would bring Routh back before he used this guy.

Q: Why so?

A: Because he's an extreme unknown (similar to Routh and Reeve) who resembles the character more than any of the men mentioned on this thread (MY personal opinion of course) and has the acting talent to back up his looks. yes, he's a bit reminiscent of Bruce Campbell but i always thought Bruce Campbell would have made an interesting Superman back in the 90's. Spencer is theatrically trained, is tall enough, and has a very solid build. unfortunately, his biggest obstacle is that he's not on many folks' radar.....which is why i don't expect him to get picked. however, if WB intends to follow up Reeve (and Routh) with a qualified actor who can offer something new to the series i think they should go with Spencer. i feel he fits those qualities to most.

I like his art but not his leather looking Superman costume or the absurdly large \S/.
2nded...

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 06:12 PM
How would you guys feel for Helen Hunt as Martha Kent?

Micah12345
01-22-2011, 06:13 PM
spencer doesn't look much like superman tbqh

DorkyFresh
01-22-2011, 06:17 PM
spencer doesn't look much like superman tbqh

well...you said you prefer Joe's look to Routh's....so i don't really care what you think. :oldrazz:

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Both Joe and Spencer have great looks for Supes/Clark.

SuperMike335!!
01-22-2011, 06:22 PM
well...you said you prefer Joe's look to Routh's....so i don't really care what you think. :oldrazz:

Scratches you off of birthday gift list... for liking Rouths look over Joe Manganiello's. :woot:

DorkyFresh
01-22-2011, 06:24 PM
How would you guys feel for Helen Hunt as Martha Kent?
i could go for that.

Both Joe and Spencer have great looks for Supes/Clark.

fence sitter.......hehe, j/m


i think Spencer's got a great look for both Supes and Clark. i think Joe's got a great look for Superman (sans his nose) but not so much for Clark Kent. i just can't see him wearing glasses and trying to be a mild mannered reporter. also, glasses tend to make noses stick out more than they usually do so that would be a real problem for Joe. if he's cast, i predict he will play an INTENSE Superman (which is actually what we need after SR)...but i'm not so sure about him as Clark Kent.

Scratches you off of birthday gift list... for liking Rouths look over Joe Manganiello's. :woot:
Routh just looks more trustworthy than Joe does. certain people give off certain vibes just because of their looks and it's hard to find a man with looks that you can trust. Joe, despite the many pictures posted of him, just doesn't have a naturally wholesome look. he can give nice, friendly facial expressions...but in his default look he looks a bit menacing. on the other hand, Routh somehow just cannot manage to look menacing or threatening at all. now that's actually a bad thing imo, but Superman should definitely be more friendly looking than anything.

Micah12345
01-22-2011, 06:32 PM
I'd like to see some joe as clark kent manips.

The Watchman
01-22-2011, 07:23 PM
Maybe in this day and age, instead of being aw-shucks clumsy as a cover as Clark he can be a fist pumper bro doing GTL? Different take on it. :)

I really hope no suits read that and just got a new brilliant idea :(

Micah12345
01-22-2011, 07:30 PM
That guy? He's such a meathead, no way he's superman.

The Watchman
01-22-2011, 07:39 PM
It would be some mighty trickery!

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:41 PM
I really do want to make a Superman movie poster, but I really don't even know what to search to get quality base pics for the costume.

The Watchman
01-22-2011, 07:48 PM
nude pregnant ladies should pull up a host of superman suit pics...

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 07:49 PM
That statement honestly confuses me. :huh:

The Watchman
01-22-2011, 07:55 PM
I really do want to make a Superman movie poster, but I really don't even know what to search to get quality base pics for the costume.

Seriously though. these are a pretty decent base to work from:


http://www.supermanofsteel.com/Pictures/mksup2.jpg

http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/465215/5307878/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hill_superman2.jpg

The Watchman
01-22-2011, 07:58 PM
That statement honestly confuses me. :huh:

Joke, as in, if you're looking for Superman pics maybe you should google superman...

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 08:02 PM
Oh I have, but I'm trying to avoid using Reeve and Routh pics, and those horrible cosplay pics. I like trying to combine things to make something new and refreshing that looks good.

Project862006
01-22-2011, 08:45 PM
i personally feel Cavill is the best choice

Hammer and Joe are other candidates people like but i look at it like this:

Hammer is 6'5 gives off a good guy vibe but is just a bit too baby faced for supes more baby faced than routh was in Returns but he is a very solid actor.

Joe is 6'5 as well not as polished of an actor but he has a more mature look well he is 12 years older than Armie but i dont get a good wholesome vibe.I get a meat head bro man aura from him not a knock on what he is actually like it is just what i get from him.

Now Henry Cavill may not be as tall but he is not short he is about 6'1-6'2 and i get a good guy aura from him and is a solid actor and is not baby faced.

Majik1387
01-22-2011, 08:54 PM
6'1-6'2 isn't tall nowadays? :huh:

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 08:55 PM
Just noticed Truck Driver Superman's nipple.

Project862006
01-22-2011, 08:56 PM
please re read

may not be as tall(as hammer,joe who are 6;5) but he is not short

I Am The Knight
01-22-2011, 09:02 PM
i personally feel Cavill is the best choice

Hammer and Joe are other candidates people like but i look at it like this:

Hammer is 6'5 gives off a good guy vibe but is just a bit too baby faced for supes more baby faced than routh was in Returns but he is a very solid actor.

Joe is 6'5 as well not as polished of an actor but he has a more mature look well he is 12 years older than Armie but i dont get a good wholesome vibe.I get a meat head bro man aura from him not a knock on what he is actually like it is just what i get from him.

Now Henry Cavill may not be as tall but he is not short he is about 6'1-6'2 and i get a good guy aura from him and is a solid actor and is not baby faced.

Routh looked young but he already looked like Superman. He had all the facial features, and has grown to look even more Superman-ish. Hammer just looks young. He may be tall but the face is a huge deal. Which is why guys like Cavill have him beat.

Alonsovich
01-22-2011, 09:40 PM
6'1-6'2 isn't tall nowadays? :huh:

^This.I ask myself the same... Being 5'11 sucks by today's standards?

daywalker2007
01-23-2011, 09:31 AM
Spencer Conway wipes the floor with both Cavill and Hammer as a proper Superman candidate.

Visually, Conway is 100% better than both Cavill and Hammer put together.
Chiselled jawline and trained actor.

We are good to go Snyder, so sort it out.

No need for baby face Hammer, he could be used as a villian maybe.

Stephen K. Hone
01-23-2011, 10:49 AM
Spencer Conway wipes the floor with both Cavill and Hammer as a proper Superman candidate.

Visually, Conway is 100% better than both Cavill and Hammer put together.
Chiselled jawline and trained actor.

We are good to go Snyder, so sort it out.

No need for baby face Hammer, he could be used as a villian maybe.



Got anymore info on him? You know, like height, weight, age, 'cause I ain't seeing it. If you showed a casting director headshots of Cavill and Conway and they had to cast based on bone structure balance of features etc for the role of Superman, Cavill wins hands down. I'm not even saying Cavill is the best candidate. Visually that would be Routh but I'm sure Snyder and Co. will do everything possible not to use him. It's that whole re-inventing the wheel thing and one of the reasons we got such a compromised costume in SR.

Show us more stuff of Conway, because based on the few grainy shorts and pictures I saw he likely wouldn't get beyond round one. However, we shall see.

Project862006
01-23-2011, 11:03 AM
trained actor why because he did stage stuff lol

cavill we actually know has talent same with hammer

there is a reason he is desperately campaigning himself

his talents obviously dont speak for them self

SuperMike335!!
01-23-2011, 11:16 AM
It could always be someone who is a 100% nobody, and we could ALL be wrong. I would however think that the studio is going to be looking more at guys like Hammer and Manganiello.

If we have noticed, Joe himself has STFU about wanting the role for the last few months. There is word that he is a frontrunner right now, so he must be impressing some people at WB - who are likely to be heavily in control now compared to last time.

The reason I think it is interesting that he has not said anything recently himself is that likely somebody told him not to. It may have been explained to him how it would hurt his chances, but that he still has a shot if he shuts up.

OR he had been considered for a long time, and may have even been TOLD to leak his interest in the past to generate some hype.

There was also a magazine talking about him as the "next superman? -yes please" a couple months back. Then there was the statement by him that he was "not negotiating for the role at this time" shortly after the True Blood website mentioned it.

I made the speculation that he may already have been cast, but that they were waiting for a press release in a few months, and that by "no negotiating" they had already reached some sort of deal.

Whatever the case is, there IS at the least smoke there.

Project862006
01-23-2011, 11:20 AM
i wont hold my breathe on front runner news

Krasinski was front runner for cap

Lerman was front runner for spiderman

hell hesmwroth was called back like 3 times before he got thor he was'nt even on the short list

SuperMike335!!
01-23-2011, 11:47 AM
i wont hold my breathe on front runner news

Krasinski was front runner for cap

Lerman was front runner for spiderman

hell hesmwroth was called back like 3 times before he got thor he was'nt even on the short list

Hey we could easily get Hammer, or someone else.

There is more smoke there than just the frontrunner news however.

Stephen K. Hone
01-23-2011, 12:39 PM
It could always be someone who is a 100% nobody, and we could ALL be wrong. I would however think that the studio is going to be looking more at guys like Hammer and Manganiello.

If we have noticed, Joe himself has STFU about wanting the role for the last few months. There is word that he is a frontrunner right now, so he must be impressing some people at WB - who are likely to be heavily in control now compared to last time.

The reason I think it is interesting that he has not said anything recently himself is that likely somebody told him not to. It may have been explained to him how it would hurt his chances, but that he still has a shot if he shuts up.

OR he had been considered for a long time, and may have even been TOLD to leak his interest in the past to generate some hype.

There was also a magazine talking about him as the "next superman? -yes please" a couple months back. Then there was the statement by him that he was "not negotiating for the role at this time" shortly after the True Blood website mentioned it.

I made the speculation that he may already have been cast, but that they were waiting for a press release in a few months, and that by "no negotiating" they had already reached some sort of deal.

Whatever the case is, there IS at the least smoke there.




I'd love to see someone interview Routh and flat out ask him ' Have you been approached? Have you contacted WB etc about reprising the role, Have you tested for Snyder? What BR says or doesn't say could speak volumes. If he knows he is 100% out of it, a simple... " I won't be in the new movie" wouldn't breach any confidentiality agreements imo.

I'm watching SR right now and he is visually so right for the part that it would be a shame if Snyder and co. expended a lot of money and resources searching for the perfect guy and WB already had him under contract. A great director could likely get a much better performance out of him if he's not shackled with instructions to impersonate CR throughout the whole movie.

Alonsovich
01-23-2011, 12:52 PM
I'd love to see someone interview Routh and flat out ask him ' Have you been approached? Have you contacted WB etc about reprising the role, Have you tested for Snyder? What BR says or doesn't say could speak volumes. If he knows he is 100% out of it, a simple... " I won't be in the new movie" wouldn't breach any confidentiality agreements imo.

I'm watching SR right now and he is visually so right for the part that it would be a shame if Snyder and co. expended a lot of money and resources searching for the perfect guy and WB already had him under contract. A great director could likely get a much better performance out of him if he's not shackled with instructions to impersonate CR throughout the whole movie.

His contract expired some time ago...:cwink:

Stephen K. Hone
01-23-2011, 01:04 PM
His contract expired some time ago...:cwink:


I was talking in the past tense. As in they had him and let him slip through there fingers. Sometimes you don't recognize what you have until it is gone. You could characterize the search for the perfect Superman as " there are greener pastures over there" when in reality the pasture you had was actually greener and you just need to put your energy into making it better. Btw contracts can be re-written.

GreenKToo
01-23-2011, 01:18 PM
Just my humble opinion. Routh left the fanbase kinda split and recasting him would probably cause more problems than its worth..blame it on SR or whatever.
Also, the public would wonder if its a sequel or a reboot with him recast ( and yes, I think its a pretty safe bet to say that they would wonder ) Besides, snyder said himself that this film will have no connection to past superman films, so recasting him would have a connection, reboot or no.

I wouldn't be opposed to routh coming back, but at the same time I really dont care if he doesn't come back either. He just didn't wow me enough that I care either way.

Alonsovich
01-23-2011, 01:45 PM
I was talking in the past tense. As in they had him and let him slip through there fingers. Sometimes you don't recognize what you have until it is gone. You could characterize the search for the perfect Superman as " there are greener pastures over there" when in reality the pasture you had was actually greener and you just need to put your energy into making it better. Btw contracts can be re-written.

Got it... :up:

I wouldn't mind to have him again in the role, but it seems unlikely. I know that contracts can be re-written and stranger things have indeed happened... I just happen to think that if Routh was a WB mandate for the reboot then why let his contract expire? It doesn't add up.

He does have the look and the height... he was just too bland I think.

DorkyFresh
01-23-2011, 02:24 PM
guys it's simple.........they need to distance and differentiate this movie from any previous incarnation of Superman on film, including Smallville. the best way to do this is to start FRESH (no pun intended) and cast a different actor. this is very unfortunately for Routh, but if they don't want this movie to be thought of as in the same continuity with the previous films then a new actor is needed.

i will never say that it's IMPOSSIBLE for Routh to be coming back as Supes, because we never truly know....however, i'd say it's about as close to impossible as you can get without actually BEING impossible. Routh would have to have some MASSIVE pull with the execs sitting at the top of WB to wear the suit on screen again.

Strider14
01-23-2011, 03:40 PM
I will say it with complete confidence. It is impossible for Routh to come back. It is not going to happen. Though Routh may have had "the look" for Superman (though I don't necessarily agree), he lacked overall charisma for such an iconic role. I will leave it at that.

Stephen K. Hone
01-23-2011, 05:47 PM
guys it's simple.........they need to distance and differentiate this movie from any previous incarnation of Superman on film, including Smallville. the best way to do this is to start FRESH (no pun intended) and cast a different actor. this is very unfortunately for Routh, but if they don't want this movie to be thought of as in the same continuity with the previous films then a new actor is needed.

i will never say that it's IMPOSSIBLE for Routh to be coming back as Supes, because we never truly know....however, i'd say it's about as close to impossible as you can get without actually BEING impossible. Routh would have to have some MASSIVE pull with the execs sitting at the top of WB to wear the suit on screen again.


I pretty much agree with everything you said, which as you said is unfortunate for BR, especially because if you had to list things wrong with SR he would be way way down that list. Imo he did the best with what he was given.

Stephen K. Hone
01-23-2011, 05:52 PM
I will say it with complete confidence. It is impossible for Routh to come back. It is not going to happen. Though Routh may have had "the look" for Superman (though I don't necessarily agree), he lacked overall charisma for such an iconic role. I will leave it at that.


Extremely unlikely, but impossible? You can never rule anything out in Hollywood. How about... improbable.

Project862006
01-23-2011, 05:54 PM
well to say no connections to any past superman movie and recast routh would make snyder a liar lol

Strider14
01-23-2011, 06:31 PM
Extremely unlikely, but impossible? You can never rule anything out in Hollywood. How about... improbable.

At one point it could have been labeled as improbable. At this point it is impossible and can be ruled out. You can take it to the bank. :cwink:

Kal-El.9859
01-23-2011, 06:51 PM
Joe Manganeillo

Karelia
01-23-2011, 08:13 PM
Haven't been in this topic in awhile, have they said when they will announce who's playing Superman yet? Last I heard it would be shortly after christmas, I guess that was just rumor/speculation.

Still for Joe M. as well. :D

Kal-El.9859
01-23-2011, 08:37 PM
Haven't been in this topic in awhile, have they said when they will announce who's playing Superman yet? Last I heard it would be shortly after christmas, I guess that was just rumor/speculation.

Still for Joe M. as well. :D

within the next couple months, since it's supposed to start shooting in August. And since The Dark Knight Rises just made some huge announcements people speculate it will be pretty soon. casting started back in November

Kal-El.9859
01-23-2011, 10:54 PM
anyone mentioned Spencer Conway? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=194646057218311&set=a.146371895379061.28546.100000187543091

DorkyFresh
01-23-2011, 10:55 PM
anyone mentioned Spencer Conway? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=194646057218311&set=a.146371895379061.28546.100000187543091

*raises hand* even though the odds are against him, he's my favorite for the role...

Kal-El.9859
01-23-2011, 11:04 PM
*raises hand* even though the odds are against him, he's my favorite for the role...

I like him and Joe M.

JAK®
01-24-2011, 02:10 AM
Hey we could easily get Hammer, or someone else.

There is more smoke there than just the frontrunner news however.
At the time, it sounded like Krasinski was just about cast as Cap, and it was fan backlash that made them turn to Evans. Which annoyed me.

Gabe99
01-24-2011, 05:05 AM
From Movie Hole:
True Blood star Superman frontrunner? (http://www.moviehole.net/201135962-true-blood-star-superman-frontrunner)

Had it been, say, the British Press reporting this I mightn’t have bothered wasting good finger sweat on typing, but this is coming from someone at the reputable stateside outlet, Hero Complex, a subsidiary of The Los Angeles Times, so there could be something to it.

We’ve all heard that “True Blood” star Joe Manganiello wants to play Superman, right? Heck, the man is one-man PR machine when it comes to stumping his ability to play Krypton’s Last Son – give him five minutes and a microphone and he’ll open up like a split bicycle tube. But did anyone actually suspect there to be anything other than self-promotion and hands being raised in the air here? I know I didn’t.
But whaddayaknow? Maybe Manganiello – who played ‘Flash Thompson’ in Sam Raimi’s “Spider-Man” – is in with a chance to star in Zack Snyder’s “Man of Steel”.

Here’s the Tweet from Hero Complex this morning : (http://twitter.com/LATherocomplex/status/28504555830382592)

Is “True Blood” werewolf star Joe Manganiello a frontrunner to play Superman? That’s the rumor du jour in Hollywood #superman

Okay, so Hero Complex could’ve just as likely heard the same stuff we have – coming from Manganiello or his supporters (there’s a Facebook page dedicating to getting the man the role of Superman) – but this is an outlet that’s more about scoops and first-hand news, than running other’s sloppy seconds, so there’s a good possibility Manganiello has impressed Snyder and the brass at the WB.

What do I think? Yeah, he could work.



From Den of Geek:
Could one of the stars of True Blood be leading the Superman race? Joe Manganiello might just be near the front of the race to play the Man of Steel… (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/742133/joe_manganiello_in_the_superman_running.html)

Published on Jan 24, 2011

Now that we've got the casting of The Dark Knight Rises' villains out of the way, the next big comic book movie casting conundrum centres around who's going to be pulling on the blue tights in Zack Snyder's upcoming Superman reboot.

With the film set to go before the cameras later this year, whoever is the new Superman is likely to need a few months of training, and we'd wager that the casting announcement isn't too far away.

An intriguing Tweet from the usually very-well-connected Los Angeles Times seems to now be pointing in favour of True Blood star, Joe Manganiello, too. He's been one of the candidates for some time now, but the Tweet - which we picked up via Moviehole - says, "Is "True Blood" werewolf star Joe Manganiello a frontrunner to play Superman? That's the rumor du jour in Hollywood #superman."

Read into that what you will. What makes it more intriguing that the usual Internet chatter on this particular matter is the source of it. We'll wait and see whether it comes true...


Joe Manganiello was Flash Thompson in Spider-Man. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/)

Astrodust
01-24-2011, 05:45 AM
I'm pretty sure the rumor that Joe M. is a frontrunner started here. http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/caa-signs-kami-putnam-heist-clients-joe-manganiello-and-logan-lerman/

Deadline breaks a lot of stories but they only mentioned him being a possible candidate so I think somewhere along the line the rumor got a little exaggerated.

FilmNerdJamie
01-24-2011, 06:41 AM
The rumor didn't start with TOLDJA.

Manganiello let his wishes known to be cast since late Spring/early Summer while promoting Tru Blood, and his most recent appearance at a fan convention stating that he'd been in talks with the filmmakers.

Tra-El
01-24-2011, 08:54 AM
Man, I love this casting more and more. Love Joe M.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS5mkj1NaWUAmeGjzbkF/SIG=12nl3jbkr/EXP=1295967206/**http%3a//img718.imageshack.us/img718/5108/joemanganielloasowensid.jpg

darkzombiemutt
01-24-2011, 09:03 AM
I have to admit, in that side by side manip, Joe looks Great.

Rust
01-24-2011, 09:04 AM
I was starting to warm up to him. Why I dunno. But then I saw an interview with him.
I'll go with the gut-feeling. He's still not the right stuff IMO. I'm not gonna comment on his facial features, but his voice is pretty wrong, being quite harsh and nasal to the ears. Dont know if they could change it, but I'd prefer something natural and soft sounding. I dont want an actor to be covered up in various fx.

From me it's no to Joe.

I'd love to see him as LOBO though!

Stephen K. Hone
01-24-2011, 10:07 AM
Man, I love this casting more and more. Love Joe M.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS5mkj1NaWUAmeGjzbkF/SIG=12nl3jbkr/EXP=1295967206/**http%3a//img718.imageshack.us/img718/5108/joemanganielloasowensid.jpg



Wow! That manip totally sells it. Perhaps Snyder's people have done similar stuff, or actually did a screen test where he was given the makeover?? Could be promising for Joe.

Strider14
01-24-2011, 10:16 AM
At the time, it sounded like Krasinski was just about cast as Cap, and it was fan backlash that made them turn to Evans. Which annoyed me.

That was a rumor put out by Fox 411 and was debunked the same day by Deadline Hollywood. Krasinski was never about to be cast as Cap. He did screen tests for the role. Nothing more...nothing less.

rob-el2
01-24-2011, 10:18 AM
Man, I love this casting more and more. Love Joe M.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS5mkj1NaWUAmeGjzbkF/SIG=12nl3jbkr/EXP=1295967206/**http%3a//img718.imageshack.us/img718/5108/joemanganielloasowensid.jpg


Aside form Spider-man (and that was a pretty small role) I haven't seen him in anything so I don't really know if he can act but he does have the look.

SuperJ
01-24-2011, 11:26 AM
wait.........Joe M. played Flash in Spider-man 1??!!

J.Howlett
01-24-2011, 11:43 AM
Yes.

Ultimate_Superman
01-24-2011, 11:46 AM
He's also been on How I met your mother a few times.

dark_b
01-24-2011, 11:57 AM
you talked on moviemoan that maybe we get casting news this week or next week.


that would be nice.

Octoberist
01-24-2011, 12:29 PM
I think it was Gillberg (a poster here who is in the know) who said that most likely, WB is trying to place the Batman and Superman news near each other, just to create super hype.

SuperJ
01-24-2011, 12:49 PM
wow! didn't know that Joe M. was Flash!!

and yes, I do hope we get some news ( casting or otherwise ) soon about this project.

I mean, it seems like a miracle that we finally got a director! lol

but it would be nice if we could get some more concrete info..........time to get this project going!!

AntMan
01-24-2011, 01:01 PM
I have to say I would be happy with Joe M as Superman. I think he has a good look and is a decent actor. Plus, he's a huge Superman fan.

Tra-El
01-24-2011, 01:14 PM
I have to say I would be happy with Joe M as Superman. I think he has a good look and is a decent actor. Plus, he's a huge Superman fan.

AND a Steelers fan! HERE WE GO!

AntMan
01-24-2011, 01:46 PM
Joe being a Steelers fan is a bonus. :) Going for their 7th Super Bowl title in Dallas, suck on that Jerry Jones.

BH/HHH
01-24-2011, 02:20 PM
He's also been on How I met your mother a few times.

Yeah he played Brad was pretty funny.

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