The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[BH/HHH]

Malambri can act, I reckon he is a good bet for the role.

Right age, sounds mature, already married and seems like a level headed guy in terms of his career choices.

I would rate my list as follows

1.) Routh
2.) Malambri
3.) Cavill
4.) Manganiello

I don't see anyone as good as those choices being discovered any time soon.

That list is pretty spot on :up:

[TheWatcher]

Out of all of the older choices on this thread=
1-Hugh Jackman
2-Eric Bana
3-Jon Hamm
4-Jim Caviezel
Jackman and Bana because we know they can bulk up really big. Hamm and Caviezel have very average builds.
Out of the younger choices=(minus my #1 hewhoshallnotbenamedBecauseofthreadRules.)
1-Rick Malambri
2-Joe Manganiello
3-Cavill
Cavill for the same reasons as Hamm and Caviezel.

[Young Superman]

Malambri can act, I reckon he is a good bet for the role.

Right age, sounds mature, already married and seems like a level headed guy in terms of his career choices.

I would rate my list as follows

1.) Routh
2.) Malambri
3.) Cavill
4.) Manganiello

I don't see anyone as good as those choices being discovered any time soon.

Agreed and great list.

[hopefuldreamer]

What I find funny is that when EVER a Masculine actor is suggested for superman, we have the guys who want him to look like a 17 year old boy coming on here and calling the manly actor a Caveman.

Calling the actor a Caveman is just codeword for saying "I'm anti-masculine".

I'm not anti masculine... i'm anti brutish looking.

There are certain tastes for Superman. Some people believe he shouldn't look like he's been bludgeoned in the face, being invulnerable and all.

Yes, the Caveman thing was an exaggeration, that is based on the original arguement that Joe M simply looks too brutish, too bashed about.

It has nothing to do with me wanting a 17 year old boy :whatever:

Yikes, the sloping forehead and eyebrows you just described is one of the defining characteristics that make men "handsome" rather than "pretty." It's a classic trait of masculinity. A "caveman brow" occurs when the trait is exaggerated to the point that the forehead actually has a protrusion when it gets to the brow

Oops, I meant to say protruding, I have no idea why I said sloping. Sorry for the confusion.

I stick by my thoughts that his eyebrows and nose and forehead contribute to a Cavemanish look, when combined with the facial hair, and general angry look :p

http://lh5.ggpht.com/condegerald/SGrFJDwaJHI/AAAAAAAAWc0/_Fv3XjH1d9s/JoeManganiello01.jpg

http://www.trueblood-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Joe-Manganiello-true-blood-14111299-267-400.jpg

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/125/originals/125127_comic-con-2010-joe-manganiello-talks-becoming-a-true-blood-regular.jpg

I just don't see how his face fits with the IDEA of Superman.

And it's not a facial hair thing BTW, there have been plenty of suggestions with facial hair I liked.

[hopefuldreamer]

1-Hugh Jackman
.

I make a solem vow to never EVER see the movie, if Hugh Jackman is Superman... i feel more strongly about it than I did Chuck!

[TheWatcher]

To each as own I guess. If the general audience could accept it I would too.

Personally I want a younger actor.

[RachelDawes]

Manganiello's nose bothers me more than his forehead. Maybe he could get a nosejob for the movie. :hehe:

[KalMart]

manganiello's nose bothers me more than his forehead. Maybe he could get a nosejob for the movie. :hehe:

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[SuperMike335!!]

I'm not anti masculine... i'm anti brutish looking.



Sure you are. When one insult does not work you switch to another.

If someone points out a masculine actor then the anti-manly crowd will be the first to say "meatheat" or "brutish" or "caveman".

But they get SOOO angry when someone points out THEIR suggestion looks like a boy.

I know I am pro-manly Superman. I can accept it. Its nice with that line in the sand to know where I stand.

[hopefuldreamer]

Sure you are. When one insult does not work you switch to another.

If someone points out a masculine actor then the anti-manly crowd will be the first to say "meatheat" or "brutish" or "caveman".

But they get SOOO angry when someone points out THEIR suggestion looks like a boy.

I know I am pro-manly Superman. I can accept it. Its nice with that line in the sand to know where I stand.

I really hate it when people start things like this.

This is the casting thread, where we discussion suggestions. We say who we like, and why we don't like other suggestions.

Yet some people seem to come here with their opinion, as though it is the only option, and get annoyed when someone suggests it's not a perfect option.

My 'insult' or in actual fact 'negative opinion' about Joe M is that his look is wrong. I have described him as Brutish, Thugish, Said his nose looks broken and have compared his features to a caveman.

This is not, as you seem to so quickly act like, some kind of personal insult. It is just me DESCRIBING why I don't like Joe M's look, instead of just saying 'nope, NEXT!'.

It has nothing to do with him looking manly. The people that I have liked for the role so far, have all been completely different.

I'm sure that you an I have differing opinions on what 'manly' is. Do you have another actor you feel is manly, so that I can get a better understanding?

[ChickenScratch]

Sure you are. When one insult does not work you switch to another.
If someone points out a masculine actor then the anti-manly crowd will be the first to say "meatheat" or "brutish" or "caveman".
But they get SOOO angry when someone points out THEIR suggestion looks like a boy.
I know I am pro-manly Superman. I can accept it. Its nice with that line in the sand to know where I stand.

Exactly! I guess it's because I'm a grown-up and really don't wish to see my hero look boyish and younger than me, but I'm for a manly looking Superman.

Many on here take a bit too much to heart though, as if these discussions will end up being taken into consideration. This is entertainment, I'm sure the people paid to do their jobs on the movie know what they are doing.

[SuperMike335!!]

I'm sure that you an I have differing opinions on what 'manly' is. Do you have another actor you feel is manly, so that I can get a better understanding?

I'll quote myself here.

BTW, he is not the only or end all be all of suggestions I made, just wanted to toss anther name in the hat.


How about Geoffrey M. Reeves ?

Height: 6'2"

Build: Athletic

Age: 34

He is an American, from what I could find, also a real former NAVY SEAL.

Actor:


In Production (http://forums.superherohype.com/#actorinp)
2010s (http://forums.superherohype.com/#actor2010)
2000s (http://forums.superherohype.com/#actor2000)

I'm Not Like That No More (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1524542/) (2010) (completed (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/)) .... Paulie the Bartender
"The Young and the Restless" (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt0069658/) .... Police Officer (1 episode, 2010)
"All My Children" (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt0065272/) .... Police Officer (5 episodes, 2009-2010)

Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1542429/) (2010) (VG) .... GDI
"Days of Our Lives" (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt0058796/) .... Officer Daniels / ... (17 episodes, 2006-2010)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1055369/) (2009) (as Geoff Reeves) .... Strike Force Team
Behind Enemy Lines: Colombia (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1208647/) (2009) (V) (uncredited) .... Navy SEAL
"Criminal Minds" (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt0452046/) .... ESU One (1 episode, 2008)
Mayhem (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1256601/) (2008) TV episode (as Geoff Reeves) .... ESU One
Inner Fat Kid (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt1679596/) (2008) .... Troy
Transformers (http://forums.superherohype.com/title/tt0418279/) (2007) (uncredited) .... Secret Service Agent
So, not a lot of experience, but more than zero expreince either. Maybe just needs a break?


Heck, I think his look alone is worth an Autition. Last name Reeves cannot be a bad sign either...


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[Sam]

I'll quote myself here.

BTW, he is not the only or end all be all of suggestions I made, just wanted to toss anther name in the hat.

I dont like him. His face is pretty weird!

[7heBoss]

I think Joe M. just has a weird nose. That is the one problem i have with him.

and i guess if i had to nitpick i would say he is a bit too tan/dark, but that doesn't really bother me as much

[flickchick85]

Oops, I meant to say protruding, I have no idea why I said sloping. Sorry for the confusion.

I stick by my thoughts that his eyebrows and nose and forehead contribute to a Cavemanish look, when combined with the facial hair, and general angry look :p

:huh: ...but his forehead doesn't have a protrusion - that brow is smooth as butter.

And I know the "angry look" comment was meant to be a little tongue-in-cheek, but I think that may seriously be an issue for some here. That's just a facial expression. Made for "sexy" photoshoots because the photogs tell him to. It's not him in character for Superman and it's certainly not his natural expression, so I don't see why it's an issue. He doesn't have an "angry" presence on True Blood at all, imo (unless he's in a confrontation with vampires, obviously). On the contrary, I think he has a very "nice guy" vibe about him on that show. And if Superman gets angry, I see no problem with him making that expression.

I just don't see how his face fits with the IDEA of Superman.

But this I get, since I quite recently wasn't a big fan of his look for Supes, either. But what can I say, I warmed up to him. Like I mentioned earlier, everyone clearly has a different-looking Superman in their head, and while Manganiello didn't fit the one in mine at first, I can really see him as A Superman now (and certainly resembles a couple incarnations from the comics). Not the one I originally pictured, but one that I would see as a definitive departure from the Donner/Reeve model, which is actually what I'm hoping for the most, so...hence my new found support.

Malambri can act, I reckon he is a good bet for the role.

Right age, sounds mature, already married and seems like a level headed guy in terms of his career choices.

I would rate my list as follows

1.) Routh
2.) Malambri
3.) Cavill
4.) Manganiello

I don't see anyone as good as those choices being discovered any time soon.

Aside from the name at the top of that list, I totally agree with this post, as well. :up:

[hopefuldreamer]

BTW, he is not the only or end all be all of suggestions I made, just wanted to toss anther name in the hat.

There's kinda this awkward silence now... :wow:

I don't think that is a good example of manly, or a good suggestion for Superman.

P.S. Are you Male or Female BTW? Cause i'm female, so that might explain the difference in opinions of what manly looking is...

[hopefuldreamer]

:huh: ...but his forehead doesn't have a protrusion - that brow is smooth as butter.

:woot: Maybe it's just the way his eyebrows look in some pics, makes his forehead look a bit 'sticky outy'.


And I know the "angry look" comment was meant to be a little tongue-in-cheek, but I think that may seriously be an issue for some here. That's just a facial expression. Made for "sexy" photoshoots because the photogs tell him to. It's not him in character for Superman and it's certainly not his natural expression, so I don't see why it's an issue. He doesn't have an "angry" presence on True Blood at all, imo (unless he's in a confrontation with vampires, obviously). On the contrary, I think he has a very "nice guy" vibe about him on that show. And if Superman gets angry, I see no problem with him making that expression.

There is different kinds of angry looks. I was searching my vocabulary for the perfect word, and think 'GRUFF' describes how I feel about Joe M, even in True Blood'. Yes he's playing a nice character, but he's gruff.


But this I get, since I quite recently wasn't a big fan of his look for Supes, either. But what can I say, I warmed up to him. Like I mentioned earlier, everyone clearly has a different-looking Superman in their head, and while Manganiello didn't fit the one in mine at first, I can really see him as A Superman now (and certainly resembles a couple incarnations from the comics). Not the one I originally pictured, but one that I would see as a definitive departure from the Donner/Reeve model, which is actually what I'm hoping for the most, so...hence my new found support.
.

I completely agree with this.

I've been back and forth so much with Joe. If he ever did land the role, I would support him, and I would support the film, for a few reasons.

1. As you said above, it's something different. It would make people see Superman in a whole new way, and not just as another Donnor/Reeve story.

2. He's a really nice guy, and he really wants it.

3. His character on True Blood was very sweet at times, and it warmed me too him.

The problem is, everytime I see certain pics or vids of him, I cringe. And every time someone points out a negative issue with him, I can't help but agree.

[Ledlunar]

Jake Gyllenhaal Id say, He was good for Clark in Zodiac, and is in pretty good shape too. also a bit younger than most of the casting Im seeing on here.

I think he was also a runner up to be Bruce Wayne in Begins that might help it a bit too

[Krumm]

http://a.imageshack.us/img59/3931/mv5bmtk2mjk1ntgynv5bml5.jpg



Did the doctor squeeze the sides of his head when he was born? Weird...

[7heBoss]

One name that I heard thrown out as Superman a while back that i kind of liked was Andy Whitfield. I guess he plays the main character in Spartacus. He just seemed like he was a masculine adult who would appear kind and gentle but can be tough and powerful if need be. The big issue I had with him though is that he is really short. I think 5'11", so I kind of forgot about him

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/Danielburt/Superman/andy-whitfield.jpg

[Changeling]

I've been seeing Jake Gyllenhaal as Superman since I saw Prince of Persia.
I think him and Tom Hardy would make an excellent Superman and Lex Luthor.

[Changeling]

For an older Superman and Lex, Jon Hamm and Bryan Cranston.

[Ledlunar]

Im not the biggest fan of Hamm for some reason.. he reminds me a bit of that cocky science teacher in high school that creeps on all the 16 yr old girls... honestly as of now the only person who comes to mind that I like is Jake G... he's a good actor, and we know he can play off the Clark role already very well.. I have not seen Persia yet I heard the movie isnt that great but Jake did get in proper shape for it.

for Lex all I can think of is Billy Zane cause of the damn animated series. but Hardy would be actually pretty good as well

[GinsterHead]

Superman - Rick Malambri, Brandon Routh or Henry Cavill
Lois Lane - Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Elizabeth Banks or Olivia Wilde
Lex Luthor - Paul Bettany, Tom Hardy or Michael C. Hall
Brainiac - Jude Law, Guy Pearce or Jonathan Rhys Meyers

[Mr. Thing]

I'll quote myself here.

BTW, he is not the only or end all be all of suggestions I made, just wanted to toss anther name in the hat.

The shape of his head freaks me out. Not a fan.

I'm liking both Manganiello and Malambri. Manganiello has a warm, soft look that would be good for Supes. Also looks like a mountain of a man!

He also has a very different look from Christopher Reeves, which to me, is a good thing. I mean Reeves was perfect, but we have to escape the idea that in order to look like Superman, you have to look like Christopher Reeves.

[Changeling]

Im not the biggest fan of Hamm for some reason.. he reminds me a bit of that cocky science teacher in high school that creeps on all the 16 yr old girls... honestly as of now the only person who comes to mind that I like is Jake G... he's a good actor, and we know he can play off the Clark role already very well.. I have not seen Persia yet I heard the movie isnt that great but Jake did get in proper shape for it.

for Lex all I can think of is Billy Zane cause of the damn animated series. but Hardy would be actually pretty good as well
Go see Prince of Persia asap he's very heroic in it and very Superman-ly.

I dont like Billy Zane. He's a cheap tv actor,

[GinsterHead]

I've never quite understood the fascination with Billy Zane. Sure, he might look a bit like the STAS Lex (if you stand well back and squint), but he's a bit of a meh actor, at least to me.

[Aesop Rocks]

I dont like Billy Zane. He's a cheap tv actor,

THANK YOU!!! :applaud

[Mr. Thing]

I know he's a lot of peoples pick for Superman, but I honestly think Hamm would be an awesome Lex.

[Aesop Rocks]

Thing, have you seen that thing he did on College Humor as Lex Luthor? :funny:

[batman44]

Though not in my regular choice for Superman, I actually could get behind the idea of *gulp* Jake Gyllenhaal.

*runs away*....faster than a speeding bullet.

[Mr. Thing]

Thing, have you seen that thing he did on College Humor as Lex Luthor? :funny:

I have not. :csad:

I might go and check it out just now. :up:

[Aesop Rocks]

Though not in my traditional choice, I actually could get behind the idea of *gulp* Jake Gyllenhaal as Superman.

I can actually see that!! Anyone who says hes a terrible actor is a damned fool. Watch him in Brothers, he should have been nominated for Best Actor.

*runs away*....faster than a speeding bullet.

I have not. :csad:

I might go and check it out just now. :up:

You won't regret it!! :D

[ChickenScratch]

Jake's a fine actor but his frame is pretty small, in POP he packed it on and still seemed too small in my eyes.

[SuperMike335!!]

The shape of his head freaks me out. Not a fan.

I'm liking both Manganiello and Malambri. Manganiello has a warm, soft look that would be good for Supes. Also looks like a mountain of a man!

He also has a very different look from Christopher Reeves, which to me, is a good thing. I mean Reeves was perfect, but we have to escape the idea that in order to look like Superman, you have to look like Christopher Reeves.

Agreed. Or at least that he can come of as EITHER warm and soft, OR hard and angry.

That is the kind of range Superman needs.

Some things happen, being that he lives in a world with super villains and he should look pissed off.

He also needs to be able to look warm too.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Did the doctor squeeze the sides of his head when he was born? Weird...
I don't know, but he gives off an Elijah Wood vibe. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the wide jaw or something. But do is definitely weird looking.

[SuperMike335!!]

Jake's a fine actor but his frame is pretty small, in POP he packed it on and still seemed too small in my eyes.

I am seeing the same thing you are. If anything Jake added a little muscle to his pecs and shoulders and dropped his bodyfat% down, thus increasing the contrast with his muscles and giving the illusion of a better build than he really has.

Here is a contrast with the build Joe M. clearly can build, which I think truly is the best build one can ask for Supes. Not too big, not too small. Big enough to look huge in tight clothing, and yet hide it in regular clothes.

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/5259/knowthedifference.jpg

[hopefuldreamer]

I am seeing the same thing you are. If anything Jake added a little muscle to his pecs and shoulders and dropped his bodyfat% down, thus increasing the contrast with his muscles and giving the illusion of a better build than he really has.

Here is a contrast with the build Joe M. clearly can build, which I think truly is the best build one can ask for Supes. Not too big, not too small. Big enough to look huge in tight clothing, and yet hide it in regular clothes.

http://a.imageshack.us/img819/5259/knowthedifference.jpg

Yeah, I think it's difficult to put anybody next to Joe M, and say he's not got the better body for Supes.

[ChickenScratch]

It's not a matter of comparing anyone to Joe, it's specifically Jake's smaller of frame. Frank Zane also had a great build and was very symmetrical, but he was tiny compared to Mike Mentzer, Arnold and other contemporaries. How you are put together does play a lot into it.

[Puckenstein]

One name that I heard thrown out as Superman a while back that i kind of liked was Andy Whitfield. I guess he plays the main character in Spartacus. He just seemed like he was a masculine adult who would appear kind and gentle but can be tough and powerful if need be. The big issue I had with him though is that he is really short. I think 5'11", so I kind of forgot about him

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/Danielburt/Superman/andy-whitfield.jpg

I suggested him for Zod in that thread a while back.

[Aesop Rocks]

I always wanted him for Ares, if Marvel were to ever go that route.

[flickchick85]

:woot: Maybe it's just the way his eyebrows look in some pics, makes his forehead look a bit 'sticky outy'.
Haha, I think I can see what you're talking about. He definitely has a "bad angle" that makes his nose/brow area look kinda extreme - I would say it's his profile, but I've seen plenty of profile shots of him that look fine, so it must be a profile-while-he's-making-a-certain-face kind of angle, lol. But the folks who shoot True Blood seem to have no problem avoiding it (I've only seen it in stills), so I'm sure the team shooting this movie wouldn't have a problem, either.


There is different kinds of angry looks. I was searching my vocabulary for the perfect word, and think 'GRUFF' describes how I feel about Joe M, even in True Blood'. Yes he's playing a nice character, but he's gruff. Well, I guess when he makes his angry face, he can come across a bit gruff. But there's a part of me that might enjoy seeing angry Clark get a little gruff (he was raised on a farm, after all) when Lois annoys him, haha. It could almost add to his gentle-giant-ness in a way, and again, it would be nice departure from the Donner-verse Clark.

Plus, when he makes that face, I could really see him pulling off the "angry God" aspect of Supes that's never made it into the movies. His Superman could potentially be very intimidating when he needs to be, which, fingers crossed that he'll be battling a more formidable foe than a glorified used car salesman calling himself Lex Luthor, should be a necessity this time around.

I completely agree with this.

I've been back and forth so much with Joe. If he ever did land the role, I would support him, and I would support the film, for a few reasons.

1. As you said above, it's something different. It would make people see Superman in a whole new way, and not just as another Donnor/Reeve story.

2. He's a really nice guy, and he really wants it.

3. His character on True Blood was very sweet at times, and it warmed me too him.

The problem is, everytime I see certain pics or vids of him, I cringe. And every time someone points out a negative issue with him, I can't help but agree.Yeah, this I totally understand. When people post older pics of him, I briefly go back to thinking "hmm...that's just not Superman." But with each new appearance on True Blood and each new interview I see, I become further convinced that he could be good.

[solidsnake86]

After watching true blood this season I think Joe would make an excellent superman. I see where people are coming from with the negatives but after watching him it's hard to argue that he is a horrible choice. The nose issue is irrelevant because like someone said they have avoided bad angles in the show. Frankly, I think part of the problem is some of the bad manips on here trying to do his hair in the reeve's fashion. If he just trimmed the back so it's not as long I think it would be fine instead of going for the helmet head/ really short look that most seem to prefer.

[Lone]

If Sam Worthington were a Pokemon, Andy Whitfield is what he would evolve into.

[7heBoss]

If Sam Worthington were a Pokemon, Andy Whitfield is what he would evolve into.

I thought he turned into a big blue alien...

[louiebling$]

Yikes, the sloping forehead and eyebrows you just described is one of the defining characteristics that make men "handsome" rather than "pretty." It's a classic trait of masculinity. A "caveman brow" occurs when the trait is exaggerated to the point that the forehead actually has a protrusion when it gets to the brow, which makes the forehead so prominent that it overshadows the eyes (appears to push them back into the head) and often carries over to the the nose area. Basically, it makes the shape of the brow more prominent than the eyebrows themselves. The only actors I can think of that have been mentioned here who even remotely have a caveman brow are David Boreanaz and Daniel Cudmore. For the record, I don't think that ruins Cudmore's look for Supes, but he totally has one. Joe M. really doesn't, imo. He just has a straight-up strong, masculine brow, very similar to Jon Hamm's and Eric Bana's, which is a large contributor to why they get called "handsome" and "real men" as opposed to "pretty boys."

http://a.imageshack.us/img829/9981/jonhammprofile220x250.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img825/3591/ericbana02.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg
i forgot how ripped Bana was in troy

[betamox]

After watching true blood this season I think Joe would make an excellent superman. I see where people are coming from with the negatives but after watching him it's hard to argue that he is a horrible choice. The nose issue is irrelevant because like someone said they have avoided bad angles in the show. Frankly, I think part of the problem is some of the bad manips on here trying to do his hair in the reeve's fashion. If he just trimmed the back so it's not as long I think it would be fine instead of going for the helmet head/ really short look that most seem to prefer.
I'm still undecided about what kind of Superman he'd make but i also was really impressed by Manganiello on Trueblood this past season i've been cathing up on episodes the last few days and he was one of the highlights of the season .

[kal-elrebooted]

Joe Manganiello For Superman

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=133806699980460&v=wall&story_fbid=148652708495859&ref=notif&notif_t=like

[Lobo]

If Sam Worthington were a Pokemon, Andy Whitfield is what he would evolve into.

:pal: That is damn near sig worthy

[Changeling]

I'm glad to see Gyllenhaal getting more supporters. I think he'd do a great job and he's my number 1 choice if they go with a younger actor.

[Mr. Thing]

I don't see Gyllenhaal as Superman, to be honest. He just doesn't have the right face. I'll admit that he is a terrific actor, though.

I'm warming to Manganiello every day. Think he's my choice. :up:

[Gamma Goliath]

I agree with Mr. Thing, Jake doesn't fit the bill as supes imo, and I'm sure I don't want hamm as supes.

[Mr. Thing]

I agree with Mr. Thing, Jake doesn't fit the bill as supes imo, and I'm sure I don't want hamm as supes.

Agreed.

Hamm is just...not what I want to see as Superman. Lex, on the other hand, YES.

[Gamma Goliath]

I don't understand why everyone wants Hamm as superman, he looks and seems past his prime. If Hamm is any hero I prefer him play punisher, but that's a different conversation for another thread. I'm pulling for Joe m. And Henry Cavill.

[Comicfan]

Joe Manganiello For Superman

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=133806699980460&v=wall&story_fbid=148652708495859&ref=notif&notif_t=like

:up::woot::up:

[Slugster]

Just say no to joe!!!

[cronosred]

I know some people still want Routh back but after seeing that Dylan Dog preview I hope the WB keeps him as far away as possible from the next Superman movie. I think Hamm would have made a good Superman but I do think he's to old now. I can't see Gyllenhaal as Superman or maybe it's more that I don't want to see him as Superman. I'm warming up to Joe but I can't help but feel there is someone better out there.

[SuperDaniel]

Its just that Joe M looks to rough to be Superman. I want to see determination obviously but moreover, i want to look at Superman and see a friend i can trust my life with and not someone i would be afraid of and that`s what joe conveys to me. Superman is not a bodybuilder and Joe looks like a guy that has no charisma and heart at all. Plus he`s a TERRIBLE actor and always plays the same kind of character because of this.

[Clarkman]

Well, since we're making lists...
My absolute favorite is Brandon Routh, but we all know he'll not be cast.

So these are my realistic favorites:

1. Hugh Jackman... 2. Harmon Walsh... 3. Matthew Fox... 4. Joe Manganiello

I would be open to accept:

1. Jake Gyllenhaal... 2. Joshua Jackson... 3. Henry Cavill... 4. Jon Hamm

[flickchick85]

Its just that Joe M looks to rough to be Superman. I want to see determination obviously but moreover, i want to look at Superman and see a friend i can trust my life with and not someone i would be afraid of and that`s what joe conveys to me. Superman is not a bodybuilder and Joe looks like a guy that has no charisma and heart at all. Plus he`s a TERRIBLE actor and always plays the same kind of character because of this.
Have you seen True Blood? Because the other characters he seems to be known for (the "Flash Thompson types") are not what he plays on that show. And as I've said, it's his "nice guy" vibe on that show that warmed me up to him in the first place. I haven't seen his other roles (well, it's been years since I've seen him as Flash Thompson, so I barely remember that), but he plays his role perfectly on True Blood, imo, so I definitely don't think he's a "terrible actor."

[Ledlunar]

Jake's a fine actor but his frame is pretty small, in POP he packed it on and still seemed too small in my eyes.

I don't think Superman should be huge Reeves wasn't huge, the classic comics he wasn't huge, he is only being drawn huge today because of all the late 70's-> present...steroid weight lifters and wrestlers.. Superman doesn't need to work out he gets his strength from Earths sun... He should just look like a regular guy in a suit but he is in great shape when you see him in the spandex costume.

People on these boards seem to want guys who look like mob boss muscle playing superman. I don't get that.

[Ledlunar]

Yeah, I think it's difficult to put anybody next to Joe M, and say he's not got the better body for Supes.

well look at Bale before Begins came out he just finished the Machinist...

[Ledlunar]

Go see Prince of Persia asap he's very heroic in it and very Superman-ly.

I dont like Billy Zane. He's a cheap tv actor,


Yeah Billy Zane is a bit uninspiring.. Isn't that Joe M just a cheap TV actor too?

[Ledlunar]

Luckily I think Joe M has the same chances of playing Supes as Tommy Wiseau

You can see Tommy Wiseau here.. they are about equal in the acting department

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLs-PkfUS2g

[flickchick85]

Luckily I think Joe M has the same chances of playing Supes as Tommy Wiseau

You can see Tommy Wiseau here.. they are about equal in the acting department

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLs-PkfUS2g

http://a.imageshack.us/img176/6843/adlucilledoorxdcv34.gif

[ChickenScratch]

I don't think Superman should be huge Reeves wasn't huge, the classic comics he wasn't huge, he is only being drawn huge today because of all the late 70's-> present...steroid weight lifters and wrestlers.. Superman doesn't need to work out he gets his strength from Earths sun... He should just look like a regular guy in a suit but he is in great shape when you see him in the spandex costume.
People on these boards seem to want guys who look like mob boss muscle playing superman. I don't get that.

I didn't say "huge" now did I? Reeves had a way larger frame than Jake, Reeves was a big man period, look at the width of his shoulders. And let's not get into the bodybuilders (not weight lifters as you said, different sport, different aim), because there are many bodybuilders who Superman artists clearly use influence from. Even Byrne's Superman is based upon Peter Lupus who was a bodybuilder, he was from the pre-roid era but still a bodybuilder.

I would get into how heroism and Superman's role is about idealism and that's why he's depicted as physical perfection, much like Hercules, but you've obviously decided that anyone who's built is a roid user and mob muscle. Superman gets his power from the sun, we all know this, Hercules is demi-god, does that mean he should be depicted as a regular guy too? Heroes are after all, larger than life. He could have a build like Reg Park, Steve Reeves, Frank Zane, Clancy Ross, Peter Lupus who were all natural bodybuilders and still look normal as you put it in regular clothes.

I'll quote myself from earlier in the thread, because I really hate this Superman doesn't have to be muscular because he gets his power from the sun crap.

Exactly, the physique does matter. In fact where heroes are concerned we are still of the mindset of the Greek Ideal where the more good and virtuous one is, the more the exterior reflects it and the more evil and corrupt one is the more broken and disfigured the outward appearance. In this case, Superman's inner goodness and perfection is reflected outwardly. Hercules is not depicted as a regular Joe even though his powers don't really come from his muscles, nor does Superman's, but it's an outward expression of the power within. We think of Farnese Hercules when we think of him right?

There's a reason that Charles Atlas was used as the body model for statues of George Washington in Washington Square Park, Dawn Of Glory in Prospect Park, and Alexander Hamilton on the Treasury Building among many others. Non of these men were such physical specimens, but it's how they are depicted, it's apart of hero worship. Heroes are larger than life, more perfect than reality.

Nobody would take physique over acting, in fact that's a given. But we want the hero to look heroic.

[Lightning54SC]

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg

Clean his Orton beard up, throw some glasses on him = perfect smallville clark kent

[SuperMike335!!]

well look at Bale before Begins came out he just finished the Machinist...

So YOU are now saying you want the next Superman actor to use Steroids? Like Bale did? Hello? The guy gained 80 pounds of muscle in a few months, he also got puffy skin, back achne and Obviously a BAD TEMPER- I wonder what was causing all of that? :doh:

Nobody has suggested we get a modern competitive juiced up bodybuilder for Superman.

We do not want someone who looks puny in the suit however. I don't care if his powers come from extra vitamin C. Puny in suit looks just as bad as the massive super-heavyweight bodybuilder.

The build needs to look strong and muscular, without yet crossing the line into what most people think of as a bodybuilder (because they only seem to think of the modern grotesque looking ones).

As ChickenScratch has pointed out, many times, we still think Superman should look muscular.

You would be shocked how the muscular (big difference with muscular vs. Pro Bodybuilder) build of Joe Manganiello actually HIDES EASILY in normal clothes.

Look at this:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg


That is because he has the type of build that does hide easily, and at the same time looks strong and muscular shirtless, or in very tight clothing.

I do not think the above looks ANYTHING like a menacing mob villain, or anything like a bodybuilder for that matter.

Heck, with his ability to show gentle expression, shown easily in that picture, I do not think his face looks manacing either.

[Maze]

Yup, after watching some true blood with him i warmed a lot to the idea too, he just have it imo.

[daywalker2007]

Yup, after watching some true blood with him i warmed a lot to the idea too, he just have it imo.

Indeed he does, he's got something about him that gives off the Clark, Superman vibe.

Right now, my list has changed again! I rate the candidates in this order now!

1.) Routh
2.) Joe M
3.) Malambri
4.) Cavill

this manip someone did proves Joe has the ability to give us the warm Superman smile that Reeve gave us and Routh gave us. Joe looks like a brother of both Reeve and Routh, he's like Routh / Reeve morphed together, which in my opinion is a good thing.
Also, he would love to play the character, and is ripped to shreds like a mofo! He's got a six pack of a greek god!

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5306/joem.jpg

[Comicfan]

So YOU are now saying you want the next Superman actor to use Steroids? Like Bale did? Hello? The guy gained 80 pounds of muscle in a few months, he also got puffy skin, back achne and Obviously a BAD TEMPER- I wonder what was causing all of that? :doh:

Nobody has suggested we get a modern competitive juiced up bodybuilder for Superman.

We do not want someone who looks puny in the suit however. I don't care if his powers come from extra vitamin C. Puny in suit looks just as bad as the massive super-heavyweight bodybuilder.

The build needs to look strong and muscular, without yet crossing the line into what most people think of as a bodybuilder (because they only seem to think of the modern grotesque looking ones).

As ChickenScratch has pointed out, many times, we still think Superman should look muscular.

You would be shocked how the muscular (big difference with muscular vs. Pro Bodybuilder) build of Joe Manganiello actually HIDES EASILY in normal clothes.

Look at this:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg


That is because he has the type of build that does hide easily, and at the same time looks strong and muscular shirtless, or in very tight clothing.

I do not think the above looks ANYTHING like a menacing mob villain, or anything like a bodybuilder for that matter.

Heck, with his ability to show gentle expression, shown easily in that picture, I do not think his face looks manacing either.

Yeah and In True Blood he delivered a character that I think could work as Clark easily.

He has a story of plating the bully, but that can change

[Slugster]

HAHA! one of his eyes are not like the other... One of his eyes are not the same...
Can you guess which one is not like the other....
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5306/joem.jpg

[Rust]

NO ****IN THANX! Sorry, but he's a terrible choice. The man just looks too slick when smiling. And... he's not exactly handsome, you know...

[Polux]

A friend and I were talking about Superman the other day, and realized that one major thing about the character, is the natural hability to inspire calm in other people; like, let´s say you´re in a middle of a disaster, and earthquick, a plain falling down or a hostage take, you´re scared to the bones and terrifies thinking you´re gonna die, but as soon as you see this guy arriving or nearby, everything is fine, all of the sudden, you feel like everything´s gonna be alright, he´s gonna save you and make everything good again.

That´s something that I think lays in the eyes, or maybe the whole facial expression, that´s something that both Reeve an Routh had, so whoever plays the character next, must have that wholesomeness to him, that soothing vibe that makes you feel safe.

That said, I hope Routh comes back, if not, Walsh is my top choice.:awesome:

Polux.

[SuperMike335!!]

NO ****IN THANX! Sorry, but he's a terrible choice. The man just looks too slick when smiling. And... he's not exactly handsome, you know...

In your opinion.

Not shared here.

[ChickenScratch]

A friend and I were talking about Superman the other day, and realized that one major thing about the character, is the natural hability to inspire calm in other people; like, let´s say you´re in a middle of a disaster, and earthquick, a plain falling down or a hostage take, you´re scared to the bones and terrifies thinking you´re gonna die, but as soon as you see this guy arriving or nearby, everything is fine, all of the sudden, you feel like everything´s gonna be alright, he´s gonna save you and make everything good again.
That´s something that I think lays in the eyes, or maybe the whole facial expression, that´s something that both Reeve an Routh had, so whoever plays the character next, must have that wholesomeness to him, that soothing vibe that makes you feel safe.
That said, I hope Routh comes back, if not, Walsh is my top choice.:awesome:
Polux.

Yes, and that's why he doesn't wear a mask. In a stressful situation seeing a human face, a smiling face with kind eyes does help a lot. Ever been in a bad situation and a cop showed up? Same deal. He inspires in many ways, and one of them is just be sheer kindness.

[cronosred]

So YOU are now saying you want the next Superman actor to use Steroids? Like Bale did? Hello? The guy gained 80 pounds of muscle in a few months, he also got puffy skin, back achne and Obviously a BAD TEMPER- I wonder what was causing all of that? :doh:

Nobody has suggested we get a modern competitive juiced up bodybuilder for Superman.

We do not want someone who looks puny in the suit however. I don't care if his powers come from extra vitamin C. Puny in suit looks just as bad as the massive super-heavyweight bodybuilder.

The build needs to look strong and muscular, without yet crossing the line into what most people think of as a bodybuilder (because they only seem to think of the modern grotesque looking ones).

As ChickenScratch has pointed out, many times, we still think Superman should look muscular.

You would be shocked how the muscular (big difference with muscular vs. Pro Bodybuilder) build of Joe Manganiello actually HIDES EASILY in normal clothes.

Look at this:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg


That is because he has the type of build that does hide easily, and at the same time looks strong and muscular shirtless, or in very tight clothing.

I do not think the above looks ANYTHING like a menacing mob villain, or anything like a bodybuilder for that matter.

Heck, with his ability to show gentle expression, shown easily in that picture, I do not think his face looks manacing either.


I like his look and think it would work well for a new Superman and I will say this, from interviews I've seen of him he really seems like a genuinely nice guy and does not come off like a thug or meathead like some proclaim. If he could portray Superman like how he comes off in his interviews I wouldn't have a problem with him at all.

[AntMan]

I hope we don't get wrinkle faced Hamm with his growing bald spot.

[hopefuldreamer]

Haha, I think I can see what you're talking about. He definitely has a "bad angle" that makes his nose/brow area look kinda extreme - I would say it's his profile, but I've seen plenty of profile shots of him that look fine, so it must be a profile-while-he's-making-a-certain-face kind of angle, lol. But the folks who shoot True Blood seem to have no problem avoiding it (I've only seen it in stills), so I'm sure the team shooting this movie wouldn't have a problem, either.


Well, I guess when he makes his angry face, he can come across a bit gruff. But there's a part of me that might enjoy seeing angry Clark get a little gruff (he was raised on a farm, after all) when Lois annoys him, haha. It could almost add to his gentle-giant-ness in a way, and again, it would be nice departure from the Donner-verse Clark.

Plus, when he makes that face, I could really see him pulling off the "angry God" aspect of Supes that's never made it into the movies. His Superman could potentially be very intimidating when he needs to be, which, fingers crossed that he'll be battling a more formidable foe than a glorified used car salesman calling himself Lex Luthor, should be a necessity this time around.

Yeah, this I totally understand. When people post older pics of him, I briefly go back to thinking "hmm...that's just not Superman." But with each new appearance on True Blood and each new interview I see, I become further convinced that he could be good.

Yeah i'm having a good Joe M day today :lol: I do like him alot, it just takes some adjusting (look at me talking like he's already been cast!)

Luckily I think Joe M has the same chances of playing Supes as Tommy Wiseau

You can see Tommy Wiseau here.. they are about equal in the acting department

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLs-PkfUS2g

Who is that guy, and why would they allow him on television, let alone as lead character... he's ridiculous!

A friend and I were talking about Superman the other day, and realized that one major thing about the character, is the natural hability to inspire calm in other people; like, let´s say you´re in a middle of a disaster, and earthquick, a plain falling down or a hostage take, you´re scared to the bones and terrifies thinking you´re gonna die, but as soon as you see this guy arriving or nearby, everything is fine, all of the sudden, you feel like everything´s gonna be alright, he´s gonna save you and make everything good again.

That´s something that I think lays in the eyes, or maybe the whole facial expression, that´s something that both Reeve an Routh had, so whoever plays the character next, must have that wholesomeness to him, that soothing vibe that makes you feel safe.

That said, I hope Routh comes back, if not, Walsh is my top choice.:awesome:

Polux.

Helps that you know he's invulnerable :p

But I think even Clak inspires so feelings of safety and trust, so it's in his whole personality.

I like his look and think it would work well for a new Superman and I will say this, from interviews I've seen of him he really seems like a genuinely nice guy and does not come off like a thug or meathead like some proclaim. If he could portray Superman like how he comes off in his interviews I wouldn't have a problem with him at all.

[betamox]

I hope we don't get wrinkle faced Hamm with his growing bald spot.
Whew ! that's harsher than i've been about him ! But yeah like yourself he's the last person i'd want in this role !

[AntMan]

Whew ! that's harsher than i've been about him ! But yeah like yourself he's the last person i'd want in this role !
He would br great as another charactor.

[Frodo]

So YOU are now saying you want the next Superman actor to use Steroids? Like Bale did? Hello? The guy gained 80 pounds of muscle in a few months, he also got puffy skin, back achne and Obviously a BAD TEMPER- I wonder what was causing all of that? :doh:

Nobody has suggested we get a modern competitive juiced up bodybuilder for Superman.

We do not want someone who looks puny in the suit however. I don't care if his powers come from extra vitamin C. Puny in suit looks just as bad as the massive super-heavyweight bodybuilder.

The build needs to look strong and muscular, without yet crossing the line into what most people think of as a bodybuilder (because they only seem to think of the modern grotesque looking ones).

As ChickenScratch has pointed out, many times, we still think Superman should look muscular.

You would be shocked how the muscular (big difference with muscular vs. Pro Bodybuilder) build of Joe Manganiello actually HIDES EASILY in normal clothes.

Look at this:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg


That is because he has the type of build that does hide easily, and at the same time looks strong and muscular shirtless, or in very tight clothing.

I do not think the above looks ANYTHING like a menacing mob villain, or anything like a bodybuilder for that matter.

Heck, with his ability to show gentle expression, shown easily in that picture, I do not think his face looks manacing either.

I think Rick M would be good , but if Joe got it I wouldn't have a problem. I'd recomend that they keep his true blood hair stlye for Superman though because I think it look's better then the other manips which have his hair much shorter.

[That-Guy]

I hope we don't get wrinkle faced Hamm with his growing bald spot.

Yeah. I want someone prettier who has never acted before.

[Aesop Rocks]

I hope we don't get wrinkle faced Hamm with his growing bald spot.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3685/benaffleckjonhammunifor.jpg

[Octoberist]

Even if one doesn't like idea of Hamm as Superman, why insult the dude when he's a legitimately good and handsome actor? Silly, silly person.

[TheWatcher]

Man,If he was a couple years younger he would be perfect!

To hell with it,he'd be good now.

[Octoberist]

I can't find a younger picture of Jon Hamm for the life of me.

[Aesop Rocks]

It's a Nolan movie, so it's going to be realistic. I don't see why Hamm wouldn't make a good realistic Superman. Christian Bale (before Batman Begins came out) wasn't a great realistic Bruce Wayne (still isn't, IMO).

[DorkyFresh]

my one and only problem with Hamm has ever been that he's too old for a potential franchise. if they are indeed wanting to make ONLY one Superman movie and leave it alone for 5 or so years and restart the franchise AGAIN then i'd be fine with Hamm...

...however, i'm more than sure that's not the case and despite what WB and the Nolan's might say, WB plans on making this a franchise similar to Nolan's Batman films. so with that in mind, i'd rather they go with an actor who won't look like he's approaching 45 by the time the potential sequel is made.

[Octoberist]

I think age is Hamm's the one hold back. But I think he probably always looked older anyway.

I think why I like Hamm is that anti-thesis of Christopher Reeve; he's just different enough but familiar. Kind of like Max Fleischer's or Alex Ross' Superman being brought to life. That, and he can act.

But I agree, again, that his age can be a factor. I mean, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp look younger than him.

[ChickenScratch]

It's a Nolan movie, so it's going to be realistic. I don't see why Hamm wouldn't make a good realistic Superman. Christian Bale (before Batman Begins came out) wasn't a great realistic Bruce Wayne (still isn't, IMO).

Who said because Nolan is involved it has to be realistic? Quite a few of his movies were not realistic, but he is great at worldbuilding and you believe it.

[Aesop Rocks]

I said it, you big silly! :awesome:

Jon Hamm would make a perfect "already known" Superman, IMHO.

[flickchick85]

Who is that guy, and why would they allow him on television, let alone as lead character... he's ridiculous!

LOL, that would be the writer, director, producer and star of the masterpiece known as "The Room." It's become quite the cult favorite as it's easily one of the worst movies ever made. It's hilarious, but only worth sitting through if you're seeing it with a big crowd (the theater I work for does midnight screenings of it every month, lol). I've actually met the guy, and he's just as ridiculous in real life as he seems on film.


As for Jon Hamm's age, I disagree that he looks older than Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp. Maybe 3-5 years ago, but lately, both of those guys have really started showing their age. I still think Hamm would be great.

[Octoberist]

THE ROOM is niche fun, but it's only fun when you watch in a theater in LA. I had a blast.

With Pitt and Depp, they are showing signs of aging but they don't look like 47; they look good for their age..maybe Depp more so than Pitt. But it's getting to the point where we need new leading men, you know? We can't rely so much on them and even Downey is rapidly aging more so than them.

[hopefuldreamer]

It's a Nolan movie, so it's going to be realistic. I don't see why Hamm wouldn't make a good realistic Superman. Christian Bale (before Batman Begins came out) wasn't a great realistic Bruce Wayne (still isn't, IMO).

I don't get your point... your trying to prove than a Nolan movie will have a realistic Superman (like Hamm) by saying that's Nolan's style... but then contradict that by saying Christian Bale wasn't and still isn't a convincing Batman :huh:

LOL, that would be the writer, director, producer and star of the masterpiece known as "The Room." It's become quite the cult favorite as it's easily one of the worst movies ever made. It's hilarious, but only worth sitting through if you're seeing it with a big crowd (the theater I work for does midnight screenings of it every month, lol). I've actually met the guy, and he's just as ridiculous in real life as he seems on film.

As for Jon Hamm's age, I disagree that he looks older than Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp. Maybe 3-5 years ago, but lately, both of those guys have really started showing their age. I still think Hamm would be great.

Is he insanely rich or does he have a very powerful family or what? What does it take to be able to make a movie like that and have it in cinemas :wow:

[7heBoss]

I would be pretty unhappy if Hamm got the part. I am sorry if I disappoint or offend anyone but I just don't want him representing the greatest superhero of all time. So if I had to rank the four names ive been hearing tossed around lately i would say:

1. Henry Cavill
2. Rick Malambri
3. Joe Manganiello
4. Ugh... Jon Hamm

However none of those names completely satisfy me, I probably take Routh or Welling over any of those actors. It justs sucks that they are associated with the other Superman franchises or whatever. I know I am sounding picky but you guys know that the list of candidates isn't that short, I am sure that there are dozens of applicants that would do a great job as Supes that we don't even know or think about right now. Just my opinion

[AntMan]

I think Hamm would be a great Shadow or Green Hornet, but he's all wrong for Superman IMO.

[Slugster]

http://janceedunn.typepad.com/shannen_pic.jpgLOIS AND CLARKhttp://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5306/joem.jpg
the kidhttp://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/lizLvsdolls/100_6378.jpg

[J'adore]

http://i55.tinypic.com/et8lud.png
Lois Lane.

[Aesop Rocks]

No way!

[Slugster]

I like her! who is she?

[DIRECTOR]

I like her! who is she?
lol watch Smallville

[ChickenScratch]

lol watch Smallville

Then I guess I'll never know who she is either because I'm not watching that.

[Aesop Rocks]

I don't want anyone from Smallville associated with this Superman movie.

Unless it's Johnathan Kent.

[That-Guy]

Not even him. I really like John Schneider, but can you see how annoying the Welling-ites would get if he was cast and not Welling?

[Aesop Rocks]

Yeah, true. It'd make Nolan them most clever troll ever. :hehe:

[J'adore]

That was Krista Allen coincidentally played a woman named Samantha Lane in The Final Destination

[dulcetpine]

Then I guess I'll never know who she is either because I'm not watching that.

:pal: 10000x agree

[That-Guy]

That was Krista Allen coincidentally played a woman named Samantha Lane in The Final Destination

That was Krista Allen?

Well, either she's seriously hit the wall or you managed to find the absolute worst picture of her ever taken. Either way, she's wrong for Lois Lane.

[SuperMike335!!]

I would be pretty unhappy if Hamm got the part. I am sorry if I disappoint or offend anyone but I just don't want him representing the greatest superhero of all time. So if I had to rank the four names ive been hearing tossed around lately i would say:

1. Henry Cavill
2. Rick Malambri
3. Joe Manganiello
4. Ugh... Jon Hamm

However none of those names completely satisfy me, I probably take Routh or Welling over any of those actors. It justs sucks that they are associated with the other Superman franchises or whatever. I know I am sounding picky but you guys know that the list of candidates isn't that short, I am sure that there are dozens of applicants that would do a great job as Supes that we don't even know or think about right now. Just my opinion

Let your heart not be troubled.

There is a VERY good chance that who ever gets cast will not be one of the people that we have ever heard of here.

Or at least one that has seen very little discussion, never given a second thought.

We are not the ones doing the casting, more such just trying to explain the criteria we would like superman to have, and dropping opinions with other Superman fans.

I am sure Nolan and company will be looking at a FAR bigger list.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I can perfectly understand one not wanting Jon Hamm to play Superman (no offense comicbook fans but personally I'm more excited about him being in non comicbook Superhero movies. Hopefully he doesn't go that route) but to pretend that he is not a ridiculously handsome man and taletned actor is just silly. He is fantastic in everyway and he's too good for s**t like The Fantastic Four and The Punisher. You can't say the same for Brandon Routh on the acing front.

Anyway, he's not going to be Superman in the next film anyway. WB is going probably going to keep up the recent tradition of getting a non acting guy who is no older than 30.

[Octoberist]

I can perfectly understand one not wanting Jon Hamm to play Superman (no offense comicbook fans but personally I'm more excited about him being in non comicbook Superhero movies. Hopefully he doesn't go that route) but to pretend that he is not a ridiculously handsome man and taletned actor is just silly. He is fantastic in everyway and he's too good for s**t like The Fantastic Four and The Punisher. You can't say the same for Brandon Routh on the acing front.

Anyway, he's not going to be Superman in the next film anyway. WB is going probably going to keep up the recent tradition of getting a non acting guy who is no older than 30.

exactly. He's a damn GOOD actor, even if you don't want him for Superman. He's so old school, that I can see him having drinks with Steve McQueen and Paul Newman at a bar.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, some of the comments I've seen about Hamm here are so f**king stupid that it makes me wonder if this board is periodically overrun by people who have recently suffered serious brain damage. If you think he's too old or not a good fit for Superman, that's fine. But to call him a bad actor is an indication that you have no concept whatsoever of what constitutes good acting. As for the people calling him ugly... whenever there's a guy that women the world over lust after, it's just commonplace for jealous douchebags on the internet to talk sh**.

[ChickenScratch]

Yeah, some of the comments I've seen about Hamm here are so f**king stupid that it makes me wonder if this board is periodically overrun by people who have recently suffered serious brain damage. If you think he's too old or not a good fit for Superman, that's fine. But to call him a bad actor is an indication that you have no concept whatsoever of what constitutes good acting. As for the people calling him ugly... whenever there's a guy that women the world over lust after, it's just commonplace for jealous douchebags on the internet to talk sh**.

Cheers!

[Octoberist]

HO-ray!

[That-Guy]

LOL, glad you guys agree.

[hopefuldreamer]

I'm in agreement of the sentiment, but there is always going to be a bit of banter. Yes, it's not nice to call other people's favourites names, but it's just always going to happen.

Matt Bomer gets mocked for being short and possibly gay, Joe M gets mocked for his crooked nose and John Hamm gets mocked for his age.

Personally I think the Matt Bomer one's are harsher.

BTW I do think Hamm is a great actor, and have been enjoying Mad Men very much :) But I personally don't like him for Supes, because I'd prefer a different look.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, some of the comments I've seen about Hamm here are so f**king stupid that it makes me wonder if this board is periodically overrun by people who have recently suffered serious brain damage. If you think he's too old or not a good fit for Superman, that's fine. But to call him a bad actor is an indication that you have no concept whatsoever of what constitutes good acting. As for the people calling him ugly... whenever there's a guy that women the world over lust after, it's just commonplace for jealous douchebags on the internet to talk sh**.Great post, especially the last part. It's par for the course for jealous M-fer's to talk about how ugly and old a heartthrob actor is.

I'm not really advocating for him or anyone else but this movie would be lucky to have an actor as talented as he is. I do hope the next actor is good because I'm tired of non-acting pretty boys. Yes, I know I'm in the minority on these boards when it comes to Routh as Superman and as an actor.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I can perfectly understand one not wanting Jon Hamm to play Superman (no offense comicbook fans but personally I'm more excited about him being in non comicbook Superhero movies. Hopefully he doesn't go that route) but to pretend that he is not a ridiculously handsome man and taletned actor is just silly. He is fantastic in everyway and he's too good for s**t like The Fantastic Four and The Punisher. You can't say the same for Brandon Routh on the acing front.

If one doesn't want to catch up with Mad Men (understandable although it's a good show), all they have to do is check out his guest-spots on 30 Rock. Funny and full of heart.

[SuperDaniel]

Lol. What interviews of Joe are you guys seein? The ones he says about wearing socks not on his feet and being naked?

THAT GUY IS NOT SUPERMAN AND NEVER WILL BE.

He could be a good Guy Gardner.

[TheWatcher]

Tahmoh Penikett FTW.
-Good actor with range.
-6'2.
-Looks the part.
-Almost unknown.
-Strong frame.
-Could definitely bulk up.

[BruceWanner]

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5306/joem.jpg

While I don't personally care for this casting choice, I like the idea for the collar on the suit manip. I like how it has the "v" notch mimicking how, in a lot of the comics, Superman's suit's collar is depicted as seamlessly merging with his collar bone. BTW, "The Dark Knight" also showed the cape attachment on Batman's suit as very similar to how it is depicted in the above mentioned comics in that it looks like it's coming out of his collar bone and going straight back as opposed to coming from the collar horizontally on his shoulders like the cape attachments on all of the live-action Superman suits since "Superman: The Movie." If the costume designers were somehow able to combine the collar in the pic with a cape attachment similar to Batman's in TDK, then Superman's collar area would look almost exactly as it does in the comics and animated series depictions.

Basically what I'm saying is:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5306/joem.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/joem.jpg/)


+


http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/3606/400cbaledarkknight08071.jpg (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/400cbaledarkknight08071.jpg/)


=


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2283/curtswan2.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/curtswan2.jpg/)

[Lead Cenobite]

What you described reminds me of the cape attachment on Dean Cain's second suit.

[Changeling]

I doubt many people will like this list too much:

Superman: Jake Gyllenhaal
Lois Lane: Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Lex Luthor: Tom Hardy
Jimmy Olsen: Jamie Bell
Perry White: Alec Baldwin

[AntMan]

eh, your list is good sans Jake.

[That-Guy]

Great post, especially the last part. It's par for the course for jealous M-fer's to talk about how ugly and old a heartthrob actor is.

I'm not really advocating for him or anyone else but this movie would be lucky to have an actor as talented as he is. I do hope the next actor is good because I'm tired of non-acting pretty boys. Yes, I know I'm in the minority on these boards when it comes to Routh as Superman and as an actor.

Thanks... and I agree with you. While I'm a fan of the idea of Hamm playing Supes, I can understand if they opted to go with someone younger. I just hope that if they do, they at least find someone who has the presence of an actor like Hamm. When you watch Mad Men, all you have to do is see Hamm walk into a room, and you FEEL it. He doesn't even have to say anything. He looks like you can split you in half with a thought. That's the kind of presence an actor playing Superman needs to have. Reeve had it, but no one has since. Not Routh, not Welling and certainly not Cain.

[That-Guy]

Lol. What interviews of Joe are you guys seein? The ones he says about wearing socks not on his feet and being naked?

THAT GUY IS NOT SUPERMAN AND NEVER WILL BE.

He could be a good Guy Gardner.

Never said I was. :cwink:

Seriously though, you really seem to hate Joe. From what I've seen of his acting on True Blood, he seems pretty good... and in interviews he comes off like a really cool guy. Was there something he was absolutely horrible in that's made you lash out at him constantly?

[Bruce_Begins]

Jon Hamm should play Pa Kent, if there is a flashback scene, which I doubt.

Rick Malambri is still my top choice for Superman.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/Cupcakesandwishes/rick-malambri-732994l.jpg

[missM]

Rick Malambri is still my top choice for Superman.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/Cupcakesandwishes/rick-malambri-732994l.jpg

I think the entire support-team of Mr. Malambri concurs. From what I've seen they are really starting to get into the idea of him playing the role. One of the members (they refer to their team as the R-Team btw) posted this to Twitter.
Pretty neat and it makes me believe even more, that Malambri is THE perfect fit for the role, judged by his looks alone. Besides, many of the actors you have mentioned are already well known... okay, so they hav cred, but I for myself can say, the more I've seen of a person, the more I just see the person and not actually the chara he's playing.

That's the pic I was talking bout, btw
http://s1.directupload.net/images/100903/37fk42vj.png (http://www.directupload.net)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If one doesn't want to catch up with Mad Men (understandable although it's a good show), all they have to do is check out his guest-spots on 30 Rock. Funny and full of heart.He was fantastic on 30 Rock. He's just an all around, well rounded good actor.

Thanks... and I agree with you. While I'm a fan of the idea of Hamm playing Supes, I can understand if they opted to go with someone younger. I just hope that if they do, they at least find someone who has the presence of an actor like Hamm. When you watch Mad Men, all you have to do is see Hamm walk into a room, and you FEEL it. He doesn't even have to say anything. He looks like you can split you in half with a thought. That's the kind of presence an actor playing Superman needs to have. Reeve had it, but no one has since. Not Routh, not Welling and certainly not Cain.You just explained actor Jon Hamm better than I. I do really want someone with that screen presence and raw talent. If they can find that in whichever actor they choose I will be A-Okay with the choice. I just don't want anymore feather weights.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, that's how I feel. I know a lot of people love Routh and I'm sure he's a great guy in real life, but he didn't have the presence a Superman actor needs. His supporters can't see it just because they're so hung up on the "look" of the character. You can blame bad writing if you want, and it does factor into the performance... but a convincing Superman actor shouldn't even need to say a word. When he shows up, people should stop dead in their tracks.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, that's how I feel. I know a lot of people love Routh and I'm sure he's a great guy in real life, but he didn't have the presence a Superman actor needs. His supporters can't see it just because they're so hung up on the "look" of the character. You can blame bad writing if you want, and it does factor into the performance... but a convincing Superman actor shouldn't even need to say a word. When he shows up, people should stop dead in their tracks.Yep, the bad writing excuse can only take you so far. I don't even like the original Superman movies but Chris Reeve is full of win as the Man of Steel. He just commands the screen. Since the character isn't wearing a mask the actor can't hide anything, he has to actually have the powerful Supermanish screen presence. Routh has a great look but he just doesn't have that presence and his acting leaves alot to be desired. Ofcourse this is my opinion people.

[That-Guy]

It's your opinion... but you're right! :)

And yeah, while I love the first Reeve film, the other three have a lot of problems (even Superman II) but you can almost overlook them when Reeve is wearing the big red S. Even in one of the worst ones (IMO), Superman III, Reeve delivers a great performance, essentially playing three characters: Superman, evil Superman and Clark Kent.

I would love to find someone with that ability again. So far, the only actor that I know is at that level is Hamm. Though I see potential in other names like Manganiello and Cavill. Gyllenhaal is another talented actor that I think could do something interesting in the role, but sadly, he just doesn't have the right look, IMO. Shame though, because he'd be great.

[Mostpowerful]

Yeah, that's how I feel. I know a lot of people love Routh and I'm sure he's a great guy in real life, but he didn't have the presence a Superman actor needs. His supporters can't see it just because they're so hung up on the "look" of the character. You can blame bad writing if you want, and it does factor into the performance... but a convincing Superman actor shouldn't even need to say a word. When he shows up, people should stop dead in their tracks.

No, you're wrong. :cwink: A LOT of people love Brandon Routh because he perfectly embodies and inhabits the character for us in the same way Reeve did (or even better for some). And yes, he is also a very good actor and totally has the presence too. Just check out his thread and read the opinions of other people who have met him or work in the industry and who also agree with that sentiment.

Also, in SR he didn't have many lines, and he didn't need to for us to know that he was Superman. Full stop. Very few have that. He's one of those few. And this is my opinion too. That's all we have, right?

Oh and I thought we weren't supposed to talk about him here in this thread... but since you guys are allowed to do it, well me too! :D

[Frodo]

As far as the next the next Superman actor goes, i'm personally not looking for the guy to be some great thesp or someone who could do hamlet in his sleep. I want an actor who could make be believe he's Superman beyond just saying the lines well. There are alot of good actors who could play the part but may not have the personality or charm.At the same time there are alot of actors who have the look but can't act all that well.

It's a combination of several different qualities which each come together to win the audience over and make them buy the guy as Superman. Acting is a big part , but you can be the greatest actor in the world but have zero personality or charisma.

Those are qualities that George Reeve and Chris Reeve imo both had that enabled them to connect with their audiences .

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, I've made the point that I'm not asking for the greatest actor in the world but he should be better than Routh, Wellling and Cain.

[BH/HHH]

I think the entire support-team of Mr. Malambri concurs. From what I've seen they are really starting to get into the idea of him playing the role. One of the members (they refer to their team as the R-Team btw) posted this to Twitter.
Pretty neat and it makes me believe even more, that Malambri is THE perfect fit for the role, judged by his looks alone. Besides, many of the actors you have mentioned are already well known... okay, so they hav cred, but I for myself can say, the more I've seen of a person, the more I just see the person and not actually the chara he's playing.

That's the pic I was talking bout, btw
http://s1.directupload.net/images/100903/37fk42vj.png (http://www.directupload.net)

I'd be happy if he got it hes my second choice after Routh.

[flickchick85]

Yep, the bad writing excuse can only take you so far. I don't even like the original Superman movies but Chris Reeve is full of win as the Man of Steel. He just commands the screen. Since the character isn't wearing a mask the actor can't hide anything, he has to actually have the powerful Supermanish screen presence. Routh has a great look but he just doesn't have that presence and his acting leaves alot to be desired. Ofcourse this is my opinion people.
I agree 100% with this post. :up:


I think the entire support-team of Mr. Malambri concurs. From what I've seen they are really starting to get into the idea of him playing the role. One of the members (they refer to their team as the R-Team btw) posted this to Twitter.
Pretty neat and it makes me believe even more, that Malambri is THE perfect fit for the role, judged by his looks alone. Besides, many of the actors you have mentioned are already well known... okay, so they hav cred, but I for myself can say, the more I've seen of a person, the more I just see the person and not actually the chara he's playing.

That's the pic I was talking bout, btw
http://s1.directupload.net/images/100903/37fk42vj.png (http://www.directupload.net/)
I gotta say, I'm a big fan of Malambri's look for this role in general, but I'm really not feeling that picture. He looks too model-esque there, imo, and I'm now unfortunately seeing where those annoying Ashton Kutcher comparisons come from. But this pic aside, I'm definitely still rooting for him to get a screentest. I think he has the best look of any of these younger candidates.

[Ledlunar]

I didn't say "huge" now did I? Reeves had a way larger frame than Jake, Reeves was a big man period, look at the width of his shoulders. And let's not get into the bodybuilders (not weight lifters as you said, different sport, different aim), because there are many bodybuilders who Superman artists clearly use influence from. Even Byrne's Superman is based upon Peter Lupus who was a bodybuilder, he was from the pre-roid era but still a bodybuilder.

I would get into how heroism and Superman's role is about idealism and that's why he's depicted as physical perfection, much like Hercules, but you've obviously decided that anyone who's built is a roid user and mob muscle. Superman gets his power from the sun, we all know this, Hercules is demi-god, does that mean he should be depicted as a regular guy too? Heroes are after all, larger than life. He could have a build like Reg Park, Steve Reeves, Frank Zane, Clancy Ross, Peter Lupus who were all natural bodybuilders and still look normal as you put it in regular clothes.

I'll quote myself from earlier in the thread, because I really hate this Superman doesn't have to be muscular because he gets his power from the sun crap.


settle down, lets keep these threads classy... I apologize for being so awful and saying weight lifter instead of body builder, you obviously know much more than me about body builders since you name dropped half a dozen. I don't care if you hate people saying superman doesn't have to be muscular cause he gets his powers from the sun, because it makes sense I mean Krypton was not a planet of people all in the peak physical perfection. He should be in great shape yeah I get it. but I think some hired goon fro Lex Luthor would most likely have a lot more muscle I mean these are humans working out for there strength. .. I never said anyone who is in good shape does roids... watch your mouth

slow down your moving to fast ChickenScratch or in the words of Peter Venkman "my friend don't be a jerk"..

[ChickenScratch]

You obviously read hostility in my post, looking for something that's not there? My responce was quite classy indeed.

Sure Superman gets his powers from the sun, Hercules is a god, Samson gets his powers from his hair, does that mean all these guys should look like regular guys? No. Superman is at it's core about idealism, he's an inspirational and aspirational figure. Idealic heroes should be perfect in mind and body, he is the pinnacle of the "Greek Ideal" after all. Anything less is short changing the character and shows the crew don't have the right grasp on him.

Krypton serves as an Olympus analogue, so yes like the gods I expect them to be physical perfection too.

Knights in shining armor were not always handsome and virtuous, but they are written that way.

[SuperMike335!!]

settle down, lets keep these threads classy... I apologize for being so awful and saying weight lifter instead of body builder, you obviously know much more than me about body builders since you name dropped half a dozen. I don't care if you hate people saying superman doesn't have to be muscular cause he gets his powers from the sun, because it makes sense I mean Krypton was not a planet of people all in the peak physical perfection. He should be in great shape yeah I get it. but I think some hired goon fro Lex Luthor would most likely have a lot more muscle I mean these are humans working out for there strength. .. I never said anyone who is in good shape does roids... watch your mouth

slow down your moving to fast ChickenScratch or in the words of Peter Venkman "my friend don't be a jerk"..

Well sure, I figure Lex likely has the market cornered on 6'8" and 350 pound Goons, but nobody is suggesting making superman that big.

The hired goons in SR did not look that imposing.

You want BIG for hired goons, then go with Nathan Jones or close to sized men. 6'11" bodybuilder and 360 pounds of solid muscle.

Now THAT is what I think of as BIG. Being 6'5" and built like Joe Manganiello would still look tiny compared to someone like Jones. Heck there are a lot of guys not quite as big as Jones, who are still a ton of a lot bigger than Joe Manganiello.

http://a.imageshack.us/img13/757/boagrius4.png

[TheWatcher]

^That man is a MONSTER!

SuperMike335!!-What do you think of my choice of Tahmoh Penikett?

[Rust]

He looks pretty decent in some shots and more like a villain in others.

[hopefuldreamer]

That's the pic I was talking bout, btw
http://s1.directupload.net/images/100903/37fk42vj.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Love it!





SuperMike335!!-What do you think of my choice of Tahmoh Penikett?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:VHI0uqHjcTKxGM:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/BeAllxEndAll/caps/Dollhouse/Dollhouse_1x02_Target_0940-1-1-1.jpg&t=1

Can someone put glasses on him? I can never decide without Glasses :oldrazz:

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Tahmoh-Penikett.jpg

He definitely has a good strong jawline, but it's the eyes i'm not sure about :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-hQskxIxpg

I love the gravelly tone to his voice as well, but there is this constant feeling that he looks and sounds a bit stoned...

[TheWatcher]

He's definitely my number one choice.

[hopefuldreamer]

I do like the fact he's a bit different, not too much of a pretty boy. And I think he'd look good next to Bale as a contrast.

[TheWatcher]

Me too.

[Ajendo]

John Freakin' Hamm!

Even the way he walks. His physical and vocal authority is perfect. The ending scene of the latest episode of mad men, when Don is walking away from Roger's office after Roger gives him back his award was a presence in itself.

[elgaz]

Potential Superman? I really, really don't see it .............. even if he got bulked up.

Great Bruce Wayne though, if Bale hadn't got the gig.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/02/article-0-0B04DD3A000005DC-554_468x592.jpg

[Rodrigo90]

I feel kinda bad from before...saying Jon Hamm was ugly and all. Well Ive been watching a lot of Mad Men,and Ive gotta retract my statement. He is a very good looking guy and his acting is superb. I'd be more than happy if he was our new Man Of Steel. :up:

[Young Superman]

I doubt many people will like this list too much:

Superman: Jake Gyllenhaal
Lois Lane: Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Lex Luthor: Tom Hardy
Jimmy Olsen: Jamie Bell
Perry White: Alec Baldwin


If Christopher Nolan choose a well known actor for the role of Superman, Jake Gyllenhaal wouldn't be a bad pick for the role.

[Young Superman]

http://s1.directupload.net/images/100903/37fk42vj.png (http://www.directupload.net)

He's my top pick for The Last Son of Krypton at the moment.

[BruceWanner]

Potential Superman? I really, really don't see it .............. even if he got bulked up.

Great Bruce Wayne though, if Bale hadn't got the gig.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/02/article-0-0B04DD3A000005DC-554_468x592.jpg
Looks like a few months in the gym would make him look just like the Silver Age Superman

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2283/curtswan2.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/curtswan2.jpg/)

[ChickenScratch]

Potential Superman? I really, really don't see it .............. even if he got bulked up.
Great Bruce Wayne though, if Bale hadn't got the gig.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/02/article-0-0B04DD3A000005DC-554_468x592.jpg

He looks great. Look at the width of those shoulders, the bone structure, he's got a build that can pack on lots of muscle real easily and look balanced.

[hopefuldreamer]

But when I see him and Bale together, it'd be like Batman rebelling against a father figure...

[flickchick85]

I don't think he looks that much older than Bale at all. Maybe a few years, but certainly not "father figure"-esque.

That said, that image has reminded me of the ever-lingering obstacle with Hamm - all the actors on Mad Men are contractually obligated to NOT do any heavy gym time during the filming season. They are allowed to exercise to keep in shape, but they aren't allowed to train to build muscle tone or anything because show runner Matthew Weiner is adamant that they look like "real people" of the era. So that could be a bigger issue than his age, actually, if Mad Men isn't ending any time soon.

[Sub-Zero]

he looks more like alex ross's bruce wayne. he's way too aged looking to be superman. plus he's too menacing to be a modern day superman. i could see kingdom come superman, but never the modern incarnation. superman doesn't age as quickly as humans, so comparing hamm to bale and saying hamm doesn't look that much older than him doesn't really add up. superman would either look as old or younger.

[Mr. Thing]

I've said this so many times, but one more couldn't hurt: I'd rather see Hamm as Lex.

[Young Superman]

I've said this so many times, but one more couldn't hurt: I'd rather see Hamm as Lex.

Agreed, Hamm as Lex would be AWESOME!

[gdw]

Looks like a few months in the gym would make him look just like the Silver Age Superman

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2283/curtswan2.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/curtswan2.jpg/)

Though I don't think he will be cast, or would work unless they were really going for a VERY established Superman, I do think he looks dead on compared to Swan's Superman.

[Gamma Goliath]

Swan superman still looks younger. Lol.

[Paul-el]

I would love to see Hamm as Superman if they went with an older, more established hero. Someone had a great idea about Superman being around saving people since the 30s. I don't really know the comics too well, but I think in either Kingdome Come or WHTTMOT the people get to a point where he's just taken for granted. Maybe in this story, Superman did things like stop Vietnam and WWII. And the world has come to a point where people continue to do stupid things because Superman will always be there to clean up the mess. He's losing his influence on how to teach the world to grow. Maybe he's even resented by some people and Lex's philanthropist moves begin to steal the spotlight. The Man of Steel suddenly becomes old news.

The way for it work, though, is to find a way to exploit Superman's age as a problem -- maybe as he's getting older his cells are absorbing less and less of the sun's energy. The other end of it has to be that maybe the Man of Steel has been chasing Brainiac around the world for a while now -- meaning prior to the story, there's been a massive manhunt for Vril Dox (or whichever incarnation) because not even Superman can catch him. People start to lose in faith in him.

Right away, you do three things with this angle:
1. You make Superman seemingly human because now not even he is perfect.

2. You have a starting place for a meaningful character arc which Returns completely brushed over in like one page at the end.

3. You build intrigue for one of the antagonists. Why can't Superman catch this guy? What makes him so special?

The real flop, at either the inciting incident or first big turning point, would be if Lex came up with an ingenious plan and caught Brainiac, skyrocketing his popularity for a run at presidency. Then you could run off with the whole Brainiac ovetaking LexCorp angle while he's being studied.

But there needs to be a really compelling second act.

Maybe Lex gains some sort of knowledge from Dox and uses some alien artifact to speed up the sun's aging process, thus making Superman's powers less effective. This gives the Man of Steel a time constraint once scientists all over the world realize what is happening to the sun -- he's got to catch Brainiac and Lex sooner rather than later. And this of course begs the question -- is Superman dying? Is there a way to reverse this process?



I dunno, just thinking...

[hopefuldreamer]

I don't think he looks that much older than Bale at all. Maybe a few years, but certainly not "father figure"-esque.

His fatherlyness isn't really about his age though, it's his look. Someone could tell me he was younger than Bale, and i'd still say he looked like Bale's dad... or uncle

I would love to see Hamm as Superman if they went with an older, more established hero. Someone had a great idea about Superman being around saving people since the 30s. I don't really know the comics too well, but I think in either Kingdome Come or WHTTMOT the people get to a point where he's just taken for granted. Maybe in this story, Superman did things like stop Vietnam and WWII. And the world has come to a point where people continue to do stupid things because Superman will always be there to clean up the mess. He's losing his influence on how to teach the world to grow. Maybe he's even resented by some people and Lex's philanthropist moves begin to steal the spotlight. The Man of Steel suddenly becomes old news.

The way for it work, though, is to find a way to exploit Superman's age as a problem -- maybe as he's getting older his cells are absorbing less and less of the sun's energy. The other end of it has to be that maybe the Man of Steel has been chasing Brainiac around the world for a while now -- meaning prior to the story, there's been a massive manhunt for Vril Dox (or whichever incarnation) because not even Superman can catch him. People start to lose in faith in him.

Right away, you do three things with this angle:
1. You make Superman seemingly human because now not even he is perfect.

2. You have a starting place for a meaningful character arc which Returns completely brushed over in like one page at the end.

3. You build intrigue for one of the antagonists. Why can't Superman catch this guy? What makes him so special?

The real flop, at either the inciting incident or first big turning point, would be if Lex came up with an ingenious plan and caught Brainiac, skyrocketing his popularity for a run at presidency. Then you could run off with the whole Brainiac ovetaking LexCorp angle while he's being studied.

But there needs to be a really compelling second act.

Maybe Lex gains some sort of knowledge from Dox and uses some alien artifact to speed up the sun's aging process, thus making Superman's powers less effective. This gives the Man of Steel a time constraint once scientists all over the world realize what is happening to the sun -- he's got to catch Brainiac and Lex sooner rather than later. And this of course begs the question -- is Superman dying? Is there a way to reverse this process?



I dunno, just thinking...


:doh:

[Rodrigo90]

I've said this so many times, but one more couldn't hurt: I'd rather see Hamm as Lex.
and you can.:awesome:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f26c4046b0/lex-luthor-bailout-with-jon-hamm

[AntMan]

Hamm as Lex is a great idea.

[SuperMike335!!]

I would love to see Hamm as Superman if they went with an older, more established hero. Someone had a great idea about Superman being around saving people since the 30s. I don't really know the comics too well, but I think in either Kingdome Come or WHTTMOT the people get to a point where he's just taken for granted. Maybe in this story, Superman did things like stop Vietnam and WWII. And the world has come to a point where people continue to do stupid things because Superman will always be there to clean up the mess. He's losing his influence on how to teach the world to grow. Maybe he's even resented by some people and Lex's philanthropist moves begin to steal the spotlight. The Man of Steel suddenly becomes old news.

The way for it work, though, is to find a way to exploit Superman's age as a problem -- maybe as he's getting older his cells are absorbing less and less of the sun's energy. The other end of it has to be that maybe the Man of Steel has been chasing Brainiac around the world for a while now -- meaning prior to the story, there's been a massive manhunt for Vril Dox (or whichever incarnation) because not even Superman can catch him. People start to lose in faith in him.

Right away, you do three things with this angle:
1. You make Superman seemingly human because now not even he is perfect.

2. You have a starting place for a meaningful character arc which Returns completely brushed over in like one page at the end.

3. You build intrigue for one of the antagonists. Why can't Superman catch this guy? What makes him so special?

The real flop, at either the inciting incident or first big turning point, would be if Lex came up with an ingenious plan and caught Brainiac, skyrocketing his popularity for a run at presidency. Then you could run off with the whole Brainiac ovetaking LexCorp angle while he's being studied.

But there needs to be a really compelling second act.

Maybe Lex gains some sort of knowledge from Dox and uses some alien artifact to speed up the sun's aging process, thus making Superman's powers less effective. This gives the Man of Steel a time constraint once scientists all over the world realize what is happening to the sun -- he's got to catch Brainiac and Lex sooner rather than later. And this of course begs the question -- is Superman dying? Is there a way to reverse this process?



I dunno, just thinking...


I am afriad you and I cannot take our relationship any further. :csad:

[Paul-el]

Well, I don't have the time do look through 47 pages of posts, so what would your take on the story be?

[SuperMike335!!]

Well, I don't have the time do look through 47 pages of posts, so what would your take on the story be?

Did you not read my last post?

I'm sorry.

These things happen.

[That person]

I am afriad you and I cannot take our relationship any further. :csad:

Honestly, with some modifications, it could make for a great Elseworlds story, but I wouldn't want to see any serious deviation from the main continuity on film.

[flickchick85]

His fatherlyness isn't really about his age though, it's his look. Someone could tell me he was younger than Bale, and i'd still say he looked like Bale's dad... or uncle

His look is what I was talking about, though. He just doesn't look that much older than him to me at all. I mean, sure, he looks like he could be a few years older than him, but that's it - certainly not fatherly, imo.

[MAN O STEEL]

Hamm looks a great deal older than Bale. Hamm's what? 40, he looks almost 50, & please don't go posting some airbrushed magazine photo to prove me wrong, you'll just be embarrassing yourself. Hamm looks to old, it's not a matter of if he looks like Superman or if he's a great match acting wise, he simply looks like an old man & it's something anyone under 30 would simply laugh at. No one under 30 wants to see a Superman who looks like someone's daddy, it's uncool & gross, those are the facts of life. You have to look at this or any movie as, what will make us a good deal of money & reach a wide audience. Casting a 40 year old who looks 50 ain't the answer.




Steve

[flickchick85]

Hamm looks a great deal older than Bale. Hamm's what? 40, he looks almost 50, & please don't go posting some airbrushed magazine photo to prove me wrong, you'll just be embarrassing yourself. Hamm looks to old, it's not a matter of if he looks like Superman or if he's a great match acting wise, he simply looks like an old man & it's something anyone under 30 would simply laugh at. No one under 30 wants to see a Superman who looks like someone's daddy, it's uncool & gross, those are the facts of life.

So wait, are you saying Supes can't look old enough to be anyone's father? Because in ALL those comics, he certainly looks more than old enough to have a kid to me (and yes, I'm under 30). So that's NOT the facts of life - just your opinion. One that I vehemently disagree with.

If you're saying he shouldn't look old enough to have a 30-year-old son, then I agree, and I obviously don't think Hamm looks even remotely old enough for that. And apparently, neither do the Hollywood casting directors for that matter, based on the roles they're putting him in. Anyway, it's not like Bale still looks 30 these days either, so this whole discussion is just kind of odd to me.

That said, I do agree with your basic point - that Hamm's casting is unlikely due to his age. He's 40 and looks 40, imo. I've never said otherwise, just that I think he'd be a great Superman. But believe me, I'm fully aware of how unlikely that is.

[SuperDaniel]

Hamm is just too old. I really can't see Superman in him at all. Maybe the bitter Kingdom Come one but that's it. Malambri looks too much like a model to me. Cavill and Routh are still the best choice to me.

[AntMan]

Hamm is just too old. I really can't see Superman in him at all. Maybe the bitter Kingdom Come one but that's it. Malambri looks too much like a model to me. Cavill and Routh are still the best choice to me.
This.

[GreenKToo]

It's not my idea, can't remember whose, but someone suggested showing that Superman has been around for a while, maybe since the 1930's, but in our modern time he still looks like he's in his late 20's or there about.
You could even show that he's used other secret ID's in the past to fit in like he does now with Clark.

As for who, I gotta say, Malambri looks pretty good to me. I still like Hamm, but Maybe he would be a better Lex ( shrugs shoulders ).
First things first tho, we need to hear who will direct this sucka.

[Slugster]

lol MOS

[hopefuldreamer]

Well, I don't have the time do look through 47 pages of posts, so what would your take on the story be?

This isn't the story ideas thread...

His look is what I was talking about, though. He just doesn't look that much older than him to me at all. I mean, sure, he looks like he could be a few years older than him, but that's it - certainly not fatherly, imo.

I know i'm not explaining myself well, and TBH my point doesn't make much sense unless you agree :p

It's not just that I think he looks to old. I think he looks like a stereotypical father type actor. Like the kind of actor who would get typecast in the roles of Dads. Like he would work as a proud father to a daddy's little girl in a cutesy family comedy.

Nothing about Christian Bale says that to me, for obvious reasons. I don't think he would ever work in the role of a dad, and it's nothing to do with his age, or even how old he looks. He could be 60, and Hamm could be 30 and i'd still say that he looked a bit 'dadish' next to Bale.

I dunno how old he is here, but look:
http://www.jon-hamm.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/portrait2.jpeg It's just a look.

What I don't want, if there ever was a JL movie, is this feeling that Superman is the father figure and the rest of the JL are like his disciples.

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm sorry, but Jon Hamm is the greatest actor out of anyone that has been mentioned so far. And he looks the part enough to pass as Clark Kent/Superman.

[flickchick85]

This isn't the story ideas thread...



I know i'm not explaining myself well, and TBH my point doesn't make much sense unless you agree :p

It's not just that I think he looks to old. I think he looks like a stereotypical father type actor. Like the kind of actor who would get typecast in the roles of Dads. Like he would work as a proud father to a daddy's little girl in a cutesy family comedy.

Nothing about Christian Bale says that to me, for obvious reasons. I don't think he would ever work in the role of a dad, and it's nothing to do with his age, or even how old he looks. He could be 60, and Hamm could be 30 and i'd still say that he looked a bit 'dadish' next to Bale.

I dunno how old he is here, but look:
http://www.jon-hamm.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/portrait2.jpeg It's just a look.

What I don't want, if there ever was a JL movie, is this feeling that Superman is the father figure and the rest of the JL are like his disciples.

Oooooh, I get what you're saying now. I thought you were saying he looked old enough to be Bale's dad, despite being less than 10 years older than him. But this makes sense. Sorry it took me so long to catch on, lol.

Anyway, while I totally agree with Aesop, I feel like all this Hamm discussion is a little moot since his age will most likely automatically rule him out of consideration. Basically, some of us think he would've been a great Superman, and some of you disagree and see him as either a Bruce Wayne or fatherly type. Does that about cover it?

[Aesop Rocks]

Yep! :awesome:

[hopefuldreamer]

:lol: Yep!

BTW Aesop, I think he's a great actor. But that doesn't make him Superman.

[Aesop Rocks]

Better than anyone you can mention though. :/

[hopefuldreamer]

Personally, I'd rather have an actor that wasn't so respected, than have someone I felt so badly didn't fit the look of Superman... so No.

[GreenKToo]

Enough of taking chances on an unknown in the role. If this was his first film, then sure, get an unknown, but it's not. Now I'm not saying go out and cast an A-lister in the role, but at least get someone that has been in a TV series or two, or has been in a few films as a secondary character.

Alot is riding on this film. I dare say more is riding on it than was riding on SR. Think about it. If this film just breaks even and doesn't give them the blockbuster that they want, do you think they're gonna retry again with a reboot in three or four years? I don't. In that event I think it would be a very long time before we see him on the big screen again.

[hobo123]

what about Brendan Hines, he's on the show Lie To Me with Tim Roth

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4301/elilokereliloker1223108.pnghttp://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/SupermanEarthOne-WIDE.png

if he could bulk up i can definitely see him as superman

[hopefuldreamer]

Enough of taking chances on an unknown in the role. If this was his first film, then sure, get an unknown, but it's not. Now I'm not saying go out and cast an A-lister in the role, but at least get someone that has been in a TV series or two, or has been in a few films as a secondary character.

Alot is riding on this film. I dare say more is riding on it than was riding on SR. Think about it. If this film just breaks even and doesn't give them the blockbuster that they want, do you think they're gonna retry again with a reboot in three or four years? I don't. In that event I think it would be a very long time before we see him on the big screen again.

I do completely agree with this... but I trust the Nolans... I have to, because they idea of another awful movie is just too terrifying.

Your completely right, but even more so because the Nolan's are involved. Now, because of their success with Batman, if the movie bombs movie execs are gonna assume that it's because people don't like Superman.

I have to have faith that they have a decent vision, and that their casting choices will be right for that vision.

what about Brendan Hines, he's on the show Lie To Me with Tim Roth

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4301/elilokereliloker1223108.pnghttp://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/SupermanEarthOne-WIDE.png

if he could bulk up i can definitely see him as superman

He works for Clark, i'm just not sure for Superman.

http://www.squarehippies.com/images/actors/brendan_hines/brendan_hines8.jpg

[Superman Prime]

what about Brendan Hines, he's on the show Lie To Me with Tim Roth

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4301/elilokereliloker1223108.pnghttp://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/SupermanEarthOne-WIDE.png

if he could bulk up i can definitely see him as superman

I'd like to see someone do a manip of him as Superman.

[batman44]

I mentioned Hines awhile back and very few liked the suggestion. I think he has some potential.

He somewhat reminds me of Bomer except taller.

[TheWatcher]

He looks like Bomer. How tall is he?

[arrivals]

IMDB does not list a height, but I remember seeing him on The Middleman, and he isn't taller, or much taller than Bomer if I remember

[TheWatcher]

Never mind about Hines. He's 5'11.

[batman44]

I doubt Hines is 5'11. He stood next to Jane Lynch who is 6' (tall women) and was taller than her. I'm thinking he is around 6'1.

[Lightning54SC]

Joe M should be superman end of convo

[flickchick85]

Yeah, now that I'm leaving my Hamm pipe dream behind, I'd have to say that my current top realistic pics are Cavill for a young Superman, and Manganiello for an older one. Those are the only two candidates in whom I have total confidence that they could pull off both the "angry God" side of Superman, and the modest farmboy side. I know people doubt the latter with Manganiello based on his Flash Thompson-esque roles and general angry look in photos, but I disagree - I think on True Blood he's proven he can play the nice guy, and there are plenty of photos without that angry look that make it easy for me to picture him as Clark:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/50/jm142bos0.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img716/6136/jm00111.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img835/6547/jm00120.jpg



And this is an "aw, shucks" pic if I've ever seen one:

http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8928/jm00132.jpg



But mainly, I just love what an imposing figure he could be as Superman when things get serious:

http://a.imageshack.us/img534/7606/jm000125.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img8/5307/jm000112.jpg


IDK, I just see a Superman in there, which doesn't happen with many actors for me - I don't even have a "top 5" candidates for this role.

[MAN O STEEL]

I love Manganiello in the plaid shirt pic. Everything about that picture says Superman/Clark kent, from the wavy/thick black hair to the strong determined look to the farmboy plaid shirt, to the thick neck. You take that beard away & DAYUM!, you got a Superman both manly & tough without looking old, like Hamm does. He's full of win.




Steve

[hopefuldreamer]

http://a.imageshack.us/img8/5307/jm000112.jpg


IDK, I just see a Superman in there, which doesn't happen with many actors for me - I don't even have a "top 5" candidates for this role.

The above pic does it for me.

It's just the perfect blend of strong and manly, but with a deeply caring look on his face.

I think i'm back in the Joe M camp!:)

[MAN O STEEL]

The above pic does it for me.

It's just the perfect blend of strong and manly, but with a deeply caring look on his face.

I think i'm back in the Joe M camp!:)


:applaud





Steve

[GreenKToo]

I wouldn't have a hissy fit if he were cast.

EDIT. Let me ADD something, I really hope whatever they decide on the Superman casting he is surrounded with A-LIST actors. I'm talking Decaprio's, Crowe's, and Weaving's. ( just examples, not suggestions)

[Paul-el]

what about Brendan Hines, he's on the show Lie To Me with Tim Roth

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4301/elilokereliloker1223108.pnghttp://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/SupermanEarthOne-WIDE.png

if he could bulk up i can definitely see him as superman


That version of the suit is killer! Hope they use something like that for the film

[cronosred]

Joe Manganiello on the Wendy Williams show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Qf-hmSLSQ&feature=related

[elgaz]

Good interview. Manganiello looks the part, sounds the part, comes across as a pretty nice guy and the ladies love him. And from what we know of him outside that interview, he would love to get the Superman role. Definitely gets my vote.

[TheWatcher]

Joe M is a great choice!

[That-Guy]

Joe Manganiello on the Wendy Williams show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Qf-hmSLSQ&feature=related

He's a horrible choice! You can see in that True Blood clip that he's shorter than Anna Paquin! Superman can't be that short! :hehe:

[hobo123]

Edit

[Paul-el]

He's a horrible choice! You can see in that True Blood clip that he's shorter than Anna Paquin! Superman can't be that short! :hehe:

You know he's 6'5, right?

[flickchick85]

You know he's 6'5, right?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was joking.

[MAN O STEEL]

I know I'm gonna cop flack from people who wanna get away from the Reeve look for Superman but in that interivew posted above, everytime manganiello smiled I saw Reeve. He also has that same ability as Reeve to look very mature & manly without looking old. He's my #1 candidate & always will be from this point on until someone is officially cast. He also must be a very humble guy because you could see how shy he was from the attention. Seems like Superman to me.





Steve

[flickchick85]

Here's another nice interview with Manganiello where he very briefly talks about the Superman thing (again):

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=8cc9d8a4-9666-4f6c-9d89-4cb67b9bc2b4

[AntMan]

Could this be are new Superman?

http://www.freakcomics.com/images/wwcon_2006/super_friends_e.jpg

[MAN O STEEL]

Looks like he ate Superman






Steve

[AntMan]

Looks like he ate Superman






Steve
He reminds me of Alex Ross Superman. :oldrazz: I think he fills out the suit well.

[herolee10]

Well in my honest opinion, I think Matthew Bomer would be a great candidate to play the Man of Steel Next.


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1236/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg/)

[AG1973]

I say Tom Welling...

[herolee10]

well the problem with Tom welling or even Brandon Routh for that matter is that they've already both portrayed Clark kent. And given that Warner Bros. wants to make a fresh start with the character, I doubt that they would want to cast anyone that's already played Superman before. It's just like when Gerard Christopher had auditioned to play "Clark Kent" in "Lois and ClarK", only to be turned down when the producers had found out that he had played clark Kent in "superboy".

[MAN O STEEL]

well the problem with Tom welling or even Brandon Routh for that matter is that they've already both portrayed Clark kent. And given that Warner Bros. wants to make a fresh start with the character, I doubt that they would want to cast anyone that's already played Superman before. It's just like when Gerard Christopher had auditioned to play "Clark Kent" in "Lois and ClarK", only to be turned down when the producers had found out that he had played clark Kent in "superboy".


TW or BR are as much out of the contest as Mathew Bomer is. Bomers 5'11 on a good day & to small framed to ever be Superman. he also might be a homosexual, which although not a big deal from the POV of people in general, does become a problem when parts of the world both GA & fanboys believe Superman to be gay enough as it is. It would present negative publicity towards the movie itself. hell there was even homosexual rumours against Brandon Routh at one point because an openly gay director hired him. I think it's best to simply not take the chance on running into similar situations again, given the small mindedness & backward thinking alot of people still have.



Steve

[Dark Raven]

Here's another nice interview with Manganiello where he very briefly talks about the Superman thing (again):

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=8cc9d8a4-9666-4f6c-9d89-4cb67b9bc2b4

I didn't hear that. Where was it? I must've missed it. What did he say?

[elgaz]

I say Tom Welling...

I'd like Welling also but highly unlikely to ever happen. The rules also state we can't discuss him or Routh in this thread

[elgaz]

Well in my honest opinion, I think Matthew Bomer would be a great candidate to play the Man of Steel Next.


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1236/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg/)



Bomer has been mentioned numerous times. He has a Superman face and is the right age, but that's it - too short, too small framed, and the sexuality might be an issue.

We really need someone who has the whole package:

- Height - 6"2 or bigger ideally
- Muscular frame (or at least a broad frame with the capacity to put on muscle)
- Strong/Handsome features
- Mature look (we don't want a superboy) without looking old
- Acting experience
- And on a less important note, the person has to champion this role so their own manner is important - Reeve, Routh, Welling, etc have all been pretty friendly and mannerly guys. It would be hard to accept an actor in the Superman role if he's notoriously rude, is into drugs/boozing, etc. It's not a dealbreaker, but it's certainly a factor in my opinion.

This is why casting the role is so difficult. Routh was a great piece of casting and pretty much ticks all the boxes, but as much as I like him, it's unlikely Nolan will cast him again in a brand new film. Similarly, I like Welling and he ticks all the boxes too. But with his ties to Smallville (and a great reluctance from many to accept him as a decent actor despite great improvements in recent years) I doubt he would ever get the role either.

Hamm is a great actor, but not really tall enough and just looks too old (and perhaps is too old at 40-odd?) to be kicking off a potential movie franchise.

All this is perhaps why I like Manganiello so much. 6"5 in height, takes his fitness very seriously and can easily pack on muscle, has a broad chest and frame but hides it easily in clothes. Despite the protests about his nose, he's a good looking guy and judging from the interviews and magazine articles I've seen on him, has a huge female fanbase. Dark haired, strong jawline and features, perfect voice, and a decent actor too. And most importantly of all, he really wants to play Superman.

[herolee10]

Bomer has been mentioned numerous times. He has a Superman face and is the right age, but that's it - too short, too small framed, and the sexuality might be an issue.

We really need someone who has the whole package:

- Height - 6"2 or bigger ideally
- Muscular frame (or at least a broad frame with the capacity to put on muscle)
- Strong/Handsome features
- Mature look (we don't want a superboy) without looking old
- Acting experience
- And on a less important note, the person has to champion this role so their own manner is important - Reeve, Routh, Welling, etc have all been pretty friendly and mannerly guys. It would be hard to accept an actor in the Superman role if he's notoriously rude, is into drugs/boozing, etc. It's not a dealbreaker, but it's certainly a factor in my opinion.

This is why casting the role is so difficult. Routh was a great piece of casting and pretty much ticks all the boxes, but as much as I like him, it's unlikely Nolan will cast him again in a brand new film. Similarly, I like Welling and he ticks all the boxes too. But with his ties to Smallville (and a great reluctance from many to accept him as a decent actor despite great improvements in recent years) I doubt he would ever get the role either.

Hamm is a great actor, but not really tall enough and just looks too old (and perhaps is too old at 40-odd?) to be kicking off a potential movie franchise.

All this is perhaps why I like Manganiello so much. 6"5 in height, takes his fitness very seriously and can easily pack on muscle, has a broad chest and frame but hides it easily in clothes. Despite the protests about his nose, he's a good looking guy and judging from the interviews and magazine articles I've seen on him, has a huge female fanbase. Dark haired, strong jawline and features, perfect voice, and a decent actor too. And most importantly of all, he really wants to play Superman.

yeah..well it's safe to say that Superman is like the hardest DC character to cast because of those features.

Ideally, while I do agree that size and physique is important, I do believe that next to having a strong and handsome look that the actor should be able to give off sincerity and a sense of warmth in their expressions as well. A guy with just good looks and a strong face wouldn't fit the entire bill for me at least as to what superman would look like since one of the features that i believe his character has is having a face that ppl can easily look at and feel comfortable with.

and yeah, real life personality and attitude towards the source material is another problem as well.

Imho, Routh was just placed in the wrong superman movie at the wrong time. He's probably the only actor that knew the source material better than any of the previous live adaptation actors.

and unlike Tim Burton's batman, you can't pull it off by having someone as short and as un-intimidating as Michael keaton play the role of supes as well.

[AntMan]

Joe is a Steelers fan. :awesome:

[Mr. Thing]

Here's another nice interview with Manganiello where he very briefly talks about the Superman thing (again):

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=8cc9d8a4-9666-4f6c-9d89-4cb67b9bc2b4

JOE FOR SUPERMAN. I'm sold.

[That-Guy]

Joe is a Steelers fan. :awesome:

Yep! Even more reason to cast him (IMO). It would be cool if they cast him as Supes and Kate Mara as Lana Lang... the Black & Gold would be well represented!

[That-Guy]

You know he's 6'5, right?

I was kidding. Just my way of making fun of the height nazis on this board.

[biggles2000uk]

Well in my honest opinion, I think Matthew Bomer would be a great candidate to play the Man of Steel Next.


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1236/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/whitecollarmatthewbomer.jpg/)



Funny how things go in circles.

He was one of the fan choices when Wolfgang Peterson's Superman V Batman was on the go.

Back then he was just a unknown soap actor.

The main problem back then and still is now is his height.

[hopefuldreamer]

Looks like he ate Superman


LMFAO

Here's another nice interview with Manganiello where he very briefly talks about the Superman thing (again):

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=8cc9d8a4-9666-4f6c-9d89-4cb67b9bc2b4

Joe Manganiello on the Wendy Williams show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Qf-hmSLSQ&feature=related

Seriously guys, after all the stuff i've said about him, i'm totally there now.

I'm actually jelous of those true blood book fans who blogged about him getting the role... and it actually worked!

How amazing will it feel if he gets the role of Superman, and is talking on chat shows about how it was the fans campaigning that really did it?!

But those interviews were great. Three things I particularly noted.

1. He looks so good in a suit shirt and tie. Like not too obvious, but then when he was hugging that woman, you could see the muscles in his back.

2. He seemed so uncomfortable with all the compliments, and then I absoltely loved his little statement about the reason he was a nice guy was because of how his parents raised him.

3. He's so different from a lot of actors. I can't think of anyone that's comparable to him... he's just totally unique.

Can anyone do a manip with this for me?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ROXZFfuHbrs/TEOA3YpcKkI/AAAAAAAAMFE/ooFjviZcOGA/s640/joe+manganiello.jpg

[TheWatcher]

Joe M is my favorite for the role.

[Venomfan]

might have already been posted, but i thought it was kind of funny, in people magazine there is a picture of Joe M and Jon Hamm together

[I Am Jack's...]

I'm really starting to warm up to Manganiello. In fact, I'm going to start catching up on True Blood right now.

[flickchick85]

I didn't hear that. Where was it? I must've missed it. What did he say?
Sorry, I've been gone all day, but in case you haven't found it yet, it's right past the 3-minute mark. But like I said, it was a very brief mention - basically, they ask him if he's gonna play Superman because they've "heard" the rumors on the blogosphere, and he says that people were asking him that at Comic-Con too. Then he says "we'll see," but adds that he thinks a guy from Pittsburgh, the City of Steel, and the Man of Steel sound like a good fit to him. Basically, he doesn't say anything we haven't heard him say before, lol.

[MAN O STEEL]

I know this is an overused picture, but to find one of Joe without facial hair, is near impossible. It's not a re used head shot from my last manip, I completely redid the hair & face, although it may look similar.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9278/manganiellocopy2.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/manganiellocopy2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)







Steve

[hopefuldreamer]

I know this is an overused picture, but to find one of Joe without facial hair, is near impossible. It's not a re used head shot from my last manip, I completely redid the hair & face, although it may look similar.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9278/manganiellocopy2.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/manganiellocopy2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Steve

Of all the suggestions and manips, he is the ONLY one who looks like he could be the leader of the Justice League.

Okay, I officially will do anything I can to make sure he gets an audition... if they don't like him after that, I'll trust them, but he just seems so right.

[Young Superman]

I know this is an overused picture, but to find one of Joe without facial hair, is near impossible. It's not a re used head shot from my last manip, I completely redid the hair & face, although it may look similar.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9278/manganiellocopy2.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/manganiellocopy2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)







Steve

This is AWESOME!


Of all the suggestions and manips, he is the ONLY one who looks like he could be the leader of the Justice League.

Okay, I officially will do anything I can to make sure he gets an audition... if they don't like him after that, I'll trust them, but he just seems so right.

Agreed, Joe Manganiello for Superman!!!!!

[Ring Deacon]

I know this is an overused picture, but to find one of Joe without facial hair, is near impossible. It's not a re used head shot from my last manip, I completely redid the hair & face, although it may look similar.

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Steve

He has the look, he is a decent actor, and he wants the role. What more could we ask for other then raising Christopher Reeve from the dead? Joe is Superman!

[GL1]

I wanted Superman to be played by an American actor... but I also wanted Sherlock Holmes to be played by a British actor, so... what the heck.

[GreenKToo]

Who are you referring to? Joe?

[That-Guy]

I know this is an overused picture, but to find one of Joe without facial hair, is near impossible. It's not a re used head shot from my last manip, I completely redid the hair & face, although it may look similar.

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Steve

Wow. That's one of the best manips I've seen. Excellent job!

[SrsBsns]

Of all the suggestions and manips, he is the ONLY one who looks like he could be the leader of the Justice League.

Okay, I officially will do anything I can to make sure he gets an audition... if they don't like him after that, I'll trust them, but he just seems so
right.

See, this WHOLE time I've been looking at Superman suggestions/manips, I ask myself one thing: can I actually imagine this guy as Superman fighting Darkseid or Doomsday? Can I see him get thrown into a building and come out without a scratch and believe it? I usually always answer that question with a "no."

But Joe M is someone I think could acutally do all of those things.

[betamox]

As far as Joe for Superman for me i'd really have to see how they'd make him look and what they would do to hide the issue of his nose, if they would even. ( I know there have been movies like "Hoffa" and "Nixon" where the actor wore makeup to make their nose different for an entire movie) i don't know how i'd feel about that. But having said that i really like Joe and think he's someone who should start getting noticed now, Hollywood would have to be nuts not to start putting this guy in star making roles whatever they might be ! And if it is or isn't Superman so be it !

[That-Guy]

I really don't see what the issue with his nose is. I saw one photo where it stood out to me, but everywhere else it looks normal, and I even focused on it while watching interviews to see if it stood out and it didn't. People are making a big issue out of nothing. He would make a great looking Superman.

[elgaz]

I'm a big Joe supporter but I also admit there's a slight issue with his nose in that it looks like it's been broken at some stage. Why would Superman ever have had a broken nose :huh:. In saying that, it's only really noticeable in some still shots - in those interviews or any other live video we see of him, I've hardly noticed it.

Still ....... if the guy really wanted the role and the studio really wanted his nose straightened out, a nose job wouldn't be out of the question, it's a fairly simple procedure these days to fix it.

[SuperMike335!!]

I'm a big Joe supporter but I also admit there's a slight issue with his nose in that it looks like it's been broken at some stage. Why would Superman ever have had a broken nose :huh:. In saying that, it's only really noticeable in some still shots - in those interviews or any other live video we see of him, I've hardly noticed it.

Still ....... if the guy really wanted the role and the studio really wanted his nose straightened out, a nose job wouldn't be out of the question, it's a fairly simple procedure these days to fix it.

Exactly. I do not notice it in motion either. That and it is only noticeable in some angles, and there are likely a few easy little things the makeup team can do to hide it.

The other thing we need to keep in mind is that he is after all an Actor, not a model.

Even then he is a very handsome man, in spite of having a broken nose.

Yeah, I'm a Joe Manganiello supporter for the role.

He is one of the rare actors I can think of off the top of my head who can both seem caring and supportive when rescuing someone, and also be tough and imposing when facing down a heavyweight supervillain.

Joe also has the perfect build for the role. Tight clothing or shirtless he looks huge, but his muscles hide easily in normal clothing. Perfect for the Superman/Clark look.

[betamox]

I really don't see what the issue with his nose is. I saw one photo where it stood out to me, but everywhere else it looks normal, and I even focused on it while watching interviews to see if it stood out and it didn't. People are making a big issue out of nothing. He would make a great looking Superman.
I agree! Yes he would make a great Superman. I didn't say it was a deal breaker for me just a concern.

[That-Guy]

Exactly. I do not notice it in motion either. That and it is only noticeable in some angles, and there are likely a few easy little things the makeup team can do to hide it.

The other thing we need to keep in mind is that he is after all an Actor, not a model.

Even then he is a very handsome man, in spite of having a broken nose.

Yeah, I'm a Joe Manganiello supporter for the role.

He is one of the rare actors I can think of off the top of my head who can both seem caring and supportive when rescuing someone, and also be tough and imposing when facing down a heavyweight supervillain.

Joe also has the perfect build for the role. Tight clothing or shirtless he looks huge, but his muscles hide easily in normal clothing. Perfect for the Superman/Clark look.

Yeah, WB is crazy if they're not looking at him for the role. Especially considering how much he obviously wants it. I'm sick of seeing studios go after guys who aren't interested or think they are too good for parts like this.

[Rust]

I think alot of you are gonna be disappointed.

[Polux]

Don´t forget the Walsh !!!

:awesome:

Polux

[betamox]

Don´t forget the Walsh !!!

:awesome:

Polux

I still am holding out hope he'll at least get a chance !

[betamox]

I think alot of you are gonna be disappointed.

Probably !

[Asgard]

I remember reading someone's post where they said Joe's nose was too ethnic.

Lol.

[Young Superman]

If Joe Manganiello would get the role. How much more should he bulk up.

[ChickenScratch]

20 pounds would be nice, but depending on when he's cast and lead time that might be tough. Let us just say as much as he can put on before day 1 of shooting because you don't want the guy continually growing through the course of the movie. Unless they shoot the Clark stuff first.