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DorkyFresh
10-05-2010, 07:03 PM
honestly...i think that's a dumb rule. as long as the Cavill, Routh, or Welling posts aren't hijacking the thread then i don't see the problem.

daywalker2007
10-05-2010, 07:06 PM
It's not the hair. I can see past him not having dark hair. Christopher Reeve didn't have naturally black hair. Even in the manip with Hammer with dark hair he still doesn't look right.

Hammer's face just doesn't look right for Superman to me. There's something a bit bland about his face too. He would just look like someone in a Superman costume, not the character himself.



Christopher Reeve looks more like Superman than Hammer. Reeve doesn't look like someone just in a Superman costume.

i agree. armie hammers look just isnt there. but when you look at a Routh or a Cavill, you can see some sort of Superman look instantly.

not getting that vibe with hammer.

its his facial features which don't match up with Superman. Hell, even Dean Cain has a better look for Superman than Armie Hammer.

still, at least we can all look forward to big blue rubber balls in snyders adaptation

Jake Cassidy
10-05-2010, 07:10 PM
Hammer would be a good Aquaman.

gdw
10-05-2010, 07:13 PM
honestly...i think that's a dumb rule. as long as the Cavill, Routh, or Welling posts aren't hijacking the thread then i don't see the problem.

So, this is the thread for discussing casting Superman, unless you want one of those three? That is kinda dumb.

Man of Tomorrow
10-05-2010, 07:16 PM
honestly...i think that's a dumb rule. as long as the Cavill, Routh, or Welling posts aren't hijacking the thread then i don't see the problem.

No use opening the pandora's box.

Routh and Cavill have their own threads. Welling is confined to the SV forum.


Works better.

Jake Cassidy
10-05-2010, 07:16 PM
The rules were made because it was getting a little out of hand.

Octoberist
10-05-2010, 07:18 PM
It's because certain people don't have self control

Showtime
10-05-2010, 07:49 PM
honestly...i think that's a dumb rule. as long as the Cavill, Routh, or Welling posts aren't hijacking the thread then i don't see the problem.

We made the rule for obvious reasons, some people spam threads. You've been here long enough to realize that. It's worked, so it can't be all that dumb.

hame4479
10-05-2010, 08:06 PM
I had no interest in Hammer when judging those pictures being posted, but after hearing him speak and seeing him interact with an interviewer via youtube I think he would be an amazing supes. Obviously they are going to want a younger actor which i why I think Hamm will eventually be disregarded, but Hamm would be so great in a classical supes sort of way. I honestly don't see Snyder going that route though.

Pac-Master
10-05-2010, 08:22 PM
Still think he reminds me of Jeff East..

http://www.hollywoodtrailers.net/wp-content/gallery/45_new_the_social_network_photos/social_network_Armie-Hammer_01-535x361.jpg

http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/social_network_Armie-Hammer_04.jpg


http://www.ajwcelebrityservices.com/images/east.jpg

I don't have a personal choice for who I want to play Superman, but when it came on TV the other day, this is exactly what I thought.

I SEE SPIDEY
10-05-2010, 08:24 PM
It's good that you don't have a personal choice.

Changeling
10-05-2010, 08:27 PM
I've been sold on Hammer. If they go young him and Jake Gyllenhaal are my choices. Jon Hamm is still my top choice overall though

flickchick85
10-05-2010, 08:27 PM
Hammer just isn't Supes AT ALL to me.

SuperDaniel
10-05-2010, 08:31 PM
I know..He just doesn`t HAVE IT...

RachelDawes
10-05-2010, 08:31 PM
Hammer just isn't Supes AT ALL to me.

Not to me, either. I think it's something about his jaw that turns me off.

ETA: DorkyFresh said it best:

imo, Hammer would be perfect for Superman if his chin/jaw were stronger. he doesn't have a weak chin or jawline by any means, but it's kind of round. in most of his pictures you can almost draw a half circle by tracing his jaw line and his chin doesn't protrude like many of the actors that've been suggested. this is my ONLY gripe about Hammer. if seriously doubt they'll go this route, but if he were to be cast i'd love for them to give him a prosthetic chin so he could look PERFECT as Superman.

Project862006
10-05-2010, 08:39 PM
prosthetic chin


ROFL

I SEE SPIDEY
10-05-2010, 08:43 PM
The board is going to be so split when Superman is cast. It's going to be an interesting and annoying time.

Keyser Soze
10-05-2010, 08:45 PM
The board is going to be so split when Superman is cast. It's going to be an interesting and annoying time.

Oh absolutely. Either we get a young unknown and people complain about not having an actor with the gravitas and presence to pull off the role, or we get a good actor and people complain because his chin isn't square enough or his chest isn't broad enough.

SuperDaniel
10-05-2010, 08:46 PM
Well, from that list:

1)Henry Cavill
2)Jon Hamm
3)Armie Hammer

Lois? Anyone but Natalie Portman.

Keyser Soze
10-05-2010, 08:49 PM
Has Henry Cavill ever done anything noteworthy? I feel like I've been seeing him on casting shortlists and wishlists for every superhero under the sun for the best part of the last decade, but I don't think I've ever actually seen him act in anything.

Project862006
10-05-2010, 08:54 PM
he is on Tudors on Showtime

The Count of Monte Cristo
Stardust

Keyser Soze
10-05-2010, 08:57 PM
Has anyone here seen In The Loop. In that they make a joke about this minor politician being "meat in the room". Where he's just there to make up the numbers in the meeting and is not expected to actually contribute anything. I just get a distinct sense that Henry Cavill is constantly "meat in the room" in these superhero casting shortlists.

MAN O STEEL
10-05-2010, 08:57 PM
Hammer sort of looks like Christensen. if Portman is cast as Lois, it would be an awkward pairing. lol





Steve

Keyser Soze
10-05-2010, 08:58 PM
he is on Tudors on Showtime

The Count of Monte Cristo
Stardust

But that's just it. I've seen both of those movies and I can't even remember Henry Cavill being in them. Not a good sign, surely.

Project862006
10-05-2010, 08:59 PM
Has anyone here seen In The Loop. In that they make a joke about this minor politician being "meat in the room". Where he's just there to make up the numbers in the meeting and is not expected to actually contribute anything. I just get a distinct sense that Henry Cavill is constantly "meat in the room" in these superhero casting shortlists.

Him and James Caviezel

I SEE SPIDEY
10-05-2010, 09:01 PM
Oh absolutely. Either we get a young unknown and people complain about not having an actor with the gravitas and presence to pull off the role, or we get a good actor and people complain because his chin isn't square enough or his chest isn't broad enough.Yep.

Eventhough I have a personal preference I will be completely and totally happy if they get a good actor for the role. Young or old, I just want a solid actor. I don't want to see anymore boyish lightweight actors take this character on. I want to see a man (younger or older) who is a good actor and looks 80% like Superman. Thats all I want.

Project862006
10-05-2010, 09:02 PM
But that's just it. I've seen both of those movies and I can't even remember Henry Cavill being in them. Not a good sign, surely.
best to go watch Tudors i guess since he is one of the leads(havent watched it myself)

Showtime
10-05-2010, 09:11 PM
There is a Henry Cavill thread. Use it.

Project862006
10-05-2010, 09:12 PM
he asked a question and i answered.:dry:

Showtime
10-05-2010, 09:15 PM
I see that, which is why I didn't address you personally.

Strider14
10-05-2010, 10:51 PM
I am with the "Hammer doesn't have the right look" group. He doesn't have the strong jawline and chin that I would like to see in Superman. He's just missing something...as has been mentioned.

Young Superman
10-05-2010, 10:59 PM
I don't really care who we get as long as he can act and looks the part.

Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:13 PM
Snyder worked with the Hamm in Sucker Punch.

So maybe....just maybe....the Hamm will actually end up as Clark Kent/Superman. I'm all for it....just as long as he gets in kick ass shape.

batman44
10-05-2010, 11:16 PM
If the recent rumor is true that the movie is about "Clark Kent (a journalist) traveling the world trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman", then I don't see Hamm getting the role.

Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:16 PM
Hammer just isn't Supes AT ALL to me.





Yeah....he looks too soft for Superman.

Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:22 PM
this one...






Hamm or Cavill yes.....the rest....ahhh....NO.

Matt Mortem
10-05-2010, 11:26 PM
If the recent rumor is true that the movie is about "Clark Kent traveling the world trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman", then I don't see Hamm getting the role.

that sounds ****ing terrible. Why can't there be just a regular goddamn Superman movie

Lone
10-05-2010, 11:46 PM
I know..He just doesn`t HAVE IT...

Can you look at a photo of Chris Reeve pre-STM and honestly tell me that he HAD IT?

Dark Knight
10-05-2010, 11:50 PM
that sounds ****ing terrible. Why can't there be just a regular goddamn Superman movie







OMG!!! :doh:

Yeah, the WHOLE film will be about Clark traveling the world.

Your on it dude! :whatever:

Strider14
10-06-2010, 12:20 AM
That's the new word... New York Magazine’s Vulture has learned that the story will follow Clark Kent, a journalist traveling the world “trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman.”

The article does say WB's original take on Superman when they were talking with Aronofsky, so they may have a different take

That would put him in his early twenties, so most of the popular names mentioned here will be out of the running if this is true.

If it follows the Birthright series, then he ends up going back to Smallville to figure out things.

Smallville on the big screen anyone?

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/10/fox_offers_wolverine_2_to_aronofsky.html?utm_sourc e=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nymag/vulture+%28Vulture+-+nymag.com%27s+Entertainment+and+Culture+Blog%29

superadam87
10-06-2010, 12:26 AM
I'm resurrecting this because I still stand by this.


http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724

Castro
10-06-2010, 12:30 AM
eh, i dunno how i feel about that. If they can get it to be like Begins, then awesome. But i think the reason Begins worked is bc Batman is a dark character.

With Kent, i see him walking around in china, japan, etc and watching crimes happen b4 his eyes and knowing there will be people he can't help.... but what in between? Begins had the training part of it, how does Supes train once he decides to become Superman? What will be the tragedy that makes him go on a journey to find himself in the first place etc...

it just sounds boring without the dark elements...

but since it's origins: I go with Cavil or Hammer, I love Elrod, but he looks mid 30's to me..

Aesop Rocks
10-06-2010, 12:30 AM
I'm to the point to where if it's not Hamm, I will lose all interest in this movie.

Strider14
10-06-2010, 12:49 AM
but since it's origins: I go with Cavil or Hammer, I love Elrod, but he looks mid 30's to me..

IF it is origins/Birthright story, Cavill and Hammer would both be too old. Clark would need to be early/mid twenties. :cwink:

At least that would mean this wouldn't necessarily be a stand alone movie and we could count on some continuity with a young Clark Kent.

superadam87
10-06-2010, 12:53 AM
IF it is origins/Birthright story, Cavill and Hammer would both be too old. Superman would need to be early twenties. :cwink:
Just out of curiosity sake, do we know for sure if it's an origin? Last I read Superman will be in it from the start. We're suppose to assume that we know who these characters are.
This was on IMDb, which can clearly be a load of crap:
Super powered Clark Kent has travelled the world for years as a journalist trying to find his place in the world. Arriving in Metropolis, he realises his place and potential as the world's greatest hero: Superman. An immediate hero, he soon comes across the path of Lex Luthor, a business mogul who owns almost all of Metropolis through corrupt and illegal methods with the help of crime syndicate Intergang. Their battle is soon disrupted by the dramatic appearance of an alien ship and Brainiac, a rogue alien super computer who has come in search of an all powerful crystal. He recognises Superman as the owner of the crystal revealing his origin as an alien and holds the world to ransom in exchange for the crystal. Superman must find the strength to defeat Brainiac by using the full extent of his powers, will and hope for humanity and discover his true origins to become the greatest hero of them all.

MessiahDecoy123
10-06-2010, 01:00 AM
Any Armie Hammer manips?

baleheadbrasil
10-06-2010, 01:01 AM
I swear I will hang myself if Henry Cavill is chosen for the role.

Strider14
10-06-2010, 01:09 AM
Just out of curiosity sake, do we know for sure if it's an origin?

We only know that Aronofsky was told by WB when he talked to them about potentially directing and he said WB's original take on it is that it will be about Clark's traveling the world and trying to decide if he is going to be Superman.

As I said, that doesn't mean it is WB's current take, but that is as much as we have heard about a plot line from a reliable source. That's why I capitalized IF.

baleheadbrasil@ You and me both!

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 01:15 AM
I swear I will hang myself if Henry Cavill is chosen for the role.

Funny I feel the same way about Jon Hamm.

baleheadbrasil
10-06-2010, 01:19 AM
Jon Hamm is Superman
Henry Cavill is Superboy....got?

DorkyFresh
10-06-2010, 01:20 AM
if the rumors about Clark traveling the world as a journalist before coming to the conclusion of becoming Superman are true (we've heard similar reports before) then Hamm is simply too old.

JokerLedger
10-06-2010, 01:24 AM
hhmmm... sounds like Birthright. I'm sold. I love that idea. It's an origin story and not an origin story at the same time.

XxDelta09xX
10-06-2010, 02:35 AM
Snyder worked with the Hamm in Sucker Punch.

So maybe....just maybe....the Hamm will actually end up as Clark Kent/Superman. I'm all for it....just as long as he gets in kick ass shape.

We can only hope he gets the role.:woot:

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 02:51 AM
For god's sake people Jon Hamm's only 5'11". He's way too short for Superman.

Gianakin_
10-06-2010, 02:56 AM
Hamm's all kinds of wrong for Supes. An older Batman, though...

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 02:58 AM
Agreed Gianakin.

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 04:00 AM
Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

7VFkRM5xtuA

Lone
10-06-2010, 04:00 AM
Jon Hamm for Jor-El definitely. Echoing the sentiments of others, he is wrong for Superman.

If you're gonna go with a short guy as Superman, I'd go with Bomer.

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 04:08 AM
Jon Hamm for Jor-El definitely. Echoing the sentiments of others, he is wrong for Superman.

If you're gonna go with a short guy as Superman, I'd go with Bomer.

Agreed

SuperDaniel
10-06-2010, 05:03 AM
He seems open to it and i`d accept him as Superman now that i`ve seen him in motion. But Cavill is still my number 1 choice.

Lobo
10-06-2010, 05:57 AM
Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

7VFkRM5xtuA

Cool Thanks. Seems he'd be pretty happy to do it. :yay:

Superark
10-06-2010, 06:19 AM
Hamm's all kinds of wrong for Supes. An older Batman, though...

Exactly

Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

7VFkRM5xtuA


Thanks! There's a quality about this guy I just love! Hope he lands the role

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 06:25 AM
Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

7VFkRM5xtuA

I like how he hasn't quite mastered that poker face a lot of actors get when asked questions like this. He seems genuinely surprised that people are wanting him to play Superman, then seems to geek out a little at the prospect, which was pretty funny.

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 06:39 AM
Based on that shortlist that was posted - dubious as its origins may be - this would be my order of preference in casting Superman and Lois Lane:

SUPERMAN
1. Armie Hammer
2. Jon Hamm
3. He Who Shall Not Be Named (in this thread)
4. Anderson Davis

LOIS LANE
1. Natalie Portman
2. Emily Blunt
3. Sophia Bush

Lobo
10-06-2010, 07:03 AM
I agree I'd switch Bush and Portman, though.

FilmNerdJamie
10-06-2010, 07:11 AM
Superman Auditions Commence Next Month (http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/10/6/superman-auditions-commence-next-month.html)

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 07:14 AM
Superman Auditions Commence Next Month (http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/10/6/superman-auditions-commence-next-month.html)

Interesting! I remember the boyfriend from Damages, he actually had a pretty decent look. Though he seems best known for dying unpleasantly, between getting knocked off in Damages and having a particularly grisly demise in Fringe.

Lobo
10-06-2010, 07:16 AM
Let the casting wars begin!

sithgoblin
10-06-2010, 07:52 AM
Jon Hamm is Superman
Henry Cavill is Superboy....got?

Cavill's 27. That's older than Reeve in STM and Routh in SR. :huh:

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 07:54 AM
Perhaps some people should read this http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 07:59 AM
I swear I will hang myself if Henry Cavill is chosen for the role.

Funny I feel the same way about Jon Hamm.

When the experts try and figure out why the number of comic book fans are thinning out...I'll send them this to ponder over. :whatever:

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 08:07 AM
When the experts try and figure out why the number of comic book fans are thinning out...I'll send them this to ponder over. :whatever:
lol


Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

7VFkRM5xtuA

I hope he gets considered for the role. I think he'd make a good younger Superman.

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 08:33 AM
Perhaps some people should read this http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724

While I understand the rule to a degree, I think it's a bit farcical to enforce it so stringently. The whole point of the rule, from what I can figure, was to stop it from derailing threads with big multi-page long tangents about the merits of Smallville or whatever that have nothing to do with the casting topic at hand. But if it gets to the point where you're putting up the road blocks when an undesirable's name is so much as mentioned, the rule starts to become guilty of the very kind of thread derailing it was put in place to prevent.

For example, the recent topic of discussion was a rumored casting shortlist involving John Hamm, Armie Hammer, Anderson Davis and He Who Shall Not Be Named. Inevitably, conversation of this shortlist is going to go like....

"Out of these, I like John Hamm most for the part. He's the best actor."

"Nah, he's too old. Look at Anderson Davis, he definitely has the physical requirements."

"But can he act? I like Armie Hammer. He's young, he's got a good look, but is also a strong actor."

"I personally prefer Henr...."

BZZZZZZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! MOD ALERT MOD ALERT! CENSORED! DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME! GO TO THE OTHER THREAD! GO TO THE OTHER THREEEEEEEEEEEAD!

Like I say, it's absurd, and impedes the natural flow of conversation. It's like going over to the Dark Knight Sequel board and saying that, in the "What villains should be in the next film?" thread, no one is allowed to mention Catwoman or The Riddler, because they have their own threads. Which ends up crippling the "What villains should be in the next film?" thread, because that's who the majority of people are going to mention.

Blackman
10-06-2010, 08:43 AM
Im really hoping Hammer gets it. But the good thing is that hes young if he doesnt get it in this series he could probably try again in the next series

GreenKToo
10-06-2010, 08:56 AM
hmmm, they want a name huh. I'd really be interested in the age range that their asking for in the auditions.
They mentioned Hamm, but if it's clark roaming the world pondering on becoming superman, then it sounds like they will want a youngish actor, 25 or so.
I'd LMAO at a 40 year old wondering if he should be superman or not lol.

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 09:02 AM
hmmm, they want a name huh. I'd really be interested in the age range that their asking for in the auditions.
They mentioned Hamm, but if it's clark roaming the world pondering on becoming superman, then it sounds like they will want a youngish actor, 25 or so.
I'd LMAO at a 40 year old wondering if he should be superman or not lol.

At 40, after wandering the world for a while, most men would decide that being Superman is too childish and that they should settle down with a nice job, good woman and start a family. Maybe that's what Hamm would do, and we would never have Superman. Maybe they could call it "World without Superman" a sort of "What If Clark never became Superman" story. :oldrazz:

Strider14
10-06-2010, 09:06 AM
Jon Hamm for Jor-El definitely. Echoing the sentiments of others, he is wrong for Superman.

If you're gonna go with a short guy as Superman, I'd go with Bomer.

WB will never cast Bomer. It would be a PR nightmare for them. If they go short, then they need to go with Scott Adkins. A manly Superman who knows how to fight, can act and nails the build and look with no extra effort needed.

GinsterHead
10-06-2010, 09:11 AM
At 40, after wandering the world for a while, most men would decide that being Superman is too childish and that they should settle down with a nice job, good woman and start a family. Maybe that's what Hamm would do, and we would never have Superman. Maybe they could call it "World without Superman" a sort of "What If Clark never became Superman" story. :oldrazz:

Because THAT'S what we need, right? More scenes of Superman doing absolutely NOTHING. :o:oldrazz:

JAK®
10-06-2010, 09:25 AM
WB will never cast Bomer. It would be a PR nightmare for them. If they go short, then they need to go with Scott Adkins. A manly Superman who knows how to fight, can act and nails the build and look with no extra effort needed.
Matthew Bomer isn't short...

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 09:32 AM
Yes. Matt Bomer is not short! He has a NORMAL height. It's just that Superman is an extra TALL person. Let's call it what it is people. Superman is very tall, freakishly so. The way people are talking around here it's like Superman is normal height and everybody else is short.

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 09:35 AM
Because THAT'S what we need, right? More scenes of Superman doing absolutely NOTHING. :o:oldrazz:

Exactly. At the end, when everyone is expecting the big reveal and for 40 year old Clark to finally don the costume, it will end with a scene of him ripping open his shirt, thinking about it for a minute, shaking his head and saying "..... nah!"

Ultimate_Superman
10-06-2010, 09:35 AM
Yes. Matt Bomer is not short! He has a NORMAL height. It's just that Superman is an extra TALL person. Let's call it what it is people. Superman is very tall, freakishly so. The way people are talking around here it's like Superman is normal height and everybody else is short.Really I don't think Height should matter to much because the camera could always make a person look taller then what they are.

JAK®
10-06-2010, 09:38 AM
Yes. Matt Bomer is not short! He has a NORMAL height. It's just that Superman is an extra TALL person. Let's call it what it is people. Superman is very tall, freakishly so. The way people are talking around here it's like Superman is normal height and everybody else is short.5'11 is two inches over the national average for both USA and UK. But because 6'0 is a round number everybody uses that as a benchmark. Funnily enough, the rest of the world that uses the Metric system has the magic number at 180cm... which is 5'11.

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 09:52 AM
My own personal system is (in cm, cause yeah, metric system :) )
165 - 175 = short
175 - 185 = normal
185 - 190 = Tall

190 <
Freakishly tall. :)

RAMORE
10-06-2010, 10:15 AM
My pick for Superman is:
For anyone who wants to take the manip & make your own out of it. :yay:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/228/s9dvdartworkdarknitepro.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/s9dvdartworkdarknitepro.jpg/)

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Ok I know what some would say but for many he is this generations superman and he does it well and he's big enough. The movie will not focus on origin I think so he is ideal.

For Lex:
[QUOTE=KalKai;10071831]http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9449/b082cb145fa52c8392e4839713f44c2epf7.jpg

These are by far the best two actors from that show. He does and evil manipulative Lex Luthor brilliantly. He won't be playing the super bad this time but i'm sure he'll be in the mix.

doctordoomsday
10-06-2010, 10:17 AM
Since when does being 5'11 make you a 'seedling'? I'm taller than a lot of people I meet.He's a seedling compared to others who have played Superman. Don't take it so personally.

Gianakin_
10-06-2010, 10:17 AM
I'd love the holy trinity from Smallville, too, but it's very doubtful.

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 10:18 AM
I hear the mod alert alarm ringing.

RAMORE
10-06-2010, 10:21 AM
I also like Rufus Sewell for General Zod if they go that way but I wouldn't If I were them they need to distance themselves from the old movies go with braniac or something.

RAMORE
10-06-2010, 10:23 AM
I hear the mod alert alarm ringing.

Why?

Gianakin who is the trinity. I don't want Durance for Lois I think shes terrible.

Gianakin_
10-06-2010, 10:26 AM
Why?

Gianakin who is the trinity. I don't want Durance for Lois I think shes terrible.

The mod alarm will come because we're supposed to talk about TW as Superman in the Smallville forum. Anyway, the trinity is Welling, Durance and Rosenbaum. I love Durance, she's easily the best Lois ever so far, imo. She ticks every single possible imaginable box for the character.

RAMORE
10-06-2010, 10:34 AM
Well i'm only on season 6 so far so maybe that's why i'm not sold on her. As for the mod thing I can suggest any actor I want can't I? Or is this not a free country.

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Well i'm only on season 6 so far so maybe that's why i'm not sold on her. As for the mod thing I can suggest any actor I want can't I? Or is this not a free country.

A message board is not a democracy. It is a dictatorship. In the case of Superhero Hype, fortunately, it is a benign dictatorship.

Gianakin_
10-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Well i'm only on season 6 so far so maybe that's why i'm not sold on her. As for the mod thing I can suggest any actor I want can't I? Or is this not a free country.

As long as Lana's there, she's a bit iffy, because she doesn't get the spotlight. In the 2nd half of S7 until now (and until the end)... oh my god.

SuperMike335!!
10-06-2010, 10:49 AM
Matthew Bomer isn't short...

But he does have tiny frame, and a large head to body ratio.

Not everybody can "just bulk up" either.

I think it is funny how people toss around the term "bulking up" like packing on even a decent amount of muscle in a short time is easy to do.

It is not.

Reeve had the benefit of Androgenic Anabolic Steroids when he gained 30 pounds for SM1. They were perfectly legal until 1990 when the 1989 ASCA went into effect. He also hired a Bodybuilder to train him, AND Reeve had a bigger frame, thick rib cage, and was 6'4.5" tall etc...

Christian Bale Obviously was on Something too. He gained about 80 pounds from the Machinist for Batman Begins, had puffy skin, back achne, and very bad temper. - Gee I wonder what could cause ALL of those things?

Now, if Mathew wanted to just "bulk up" he would not only need a bodybuilding coach for his weights and diet, but do you want him have to get juiced up? Hey if he were to go that way, more power to him. I guess it would show dedication to the role.

Because right now the guy is not only under 6ft, but he has a large head compared to his body (making him LOOK short), and a small boned and thin frame.

Put him in the Superman cotume right now, and he would look Puny. I know Superman's powers don't come from his muscles, but neither do ANY superpowered beings. Superman exists in a visual medium, and has always been both TALL and MUSCULAR. Not to the extent of a modern competitve bodybuilder, but easily "looks like" a guy who lifts weights on a consistent basis.

So with bomer it is not just and issue of height, but also that of both frame and build.

I think it would be FAR less trouble to cast Joe Manganiello, and simply have the makeup team fill the dent on the left side of his nose. The guy has always been in shape, so its not like he would need any more muscle than he has had for many years. No need to turn to Anabolic Steroids there. If not Joe Manganiello, then someone of similar stature, and at least close to his build.

JAK®
10-06-2010, 10:54 AM
But he does have tiny frame, and a large head to body ratio.

Not everybody can "just bulk up" either.

I think it is funny how people toss around the term "bulking up" like packing on even a decent amount of muscle in a short time is easy to do.

It is not.

Reeve had the benefit of Androgenic Anabolic Steroids when he gained 30 pounds for SM1. They were perfectly legal until 1990 when the 1989 ASCA went into effect. He also hired a Bodybuilder to train him, AND Reeve had a bigger frame, thick rib cage, and was 6'4.5" tall etc...

Christian Bale Obviously was on Something too. He gained about 80 pounds from the Machinist for Batman Begins, had puffy skin, back achne, and very bad temper. - Gee I wonder what could cause ALL of those things?

Now, if Mathew wanted to just "bulk up" he would not only need a bodybuilding coach for his weights and diet, but do you want him have to get juiced up? Hey if he were to go that way, more power to him. I guess it would show dedication to the role.

Because right now the guy is not only under 6ft, but he has a large head compared to his body (making him LOOK short), and a small boned and thin frame.

Put him in the Superman cotume right now, and he would look Puny. I know Superman's powers don't come from his muscles, but neither do ANY superpowered beings. Superman exists in a visual medium, and has always been both TALL and MUSCULAR. Not to the extent of a modern competitve bodybuilder, but easily "looks like" a guy who lifts weights on a consistent basis.

So with bomer it is not just and issue of height, but also that of both frame and build.

I think it would be FAR less trouble to cast Joe Manganiello, and simply have the makeup team fill the dent on the left side of his nose. The guy has always been in shape, so its not like he would need any more muscle than he has had for many years. No need to turn to Anabolic Steroids there. If not Joe Manganiello, then someone of similar stature, and at least close to his build.
Yeah, I agree with all of this.

ChickenScratch
10-06-2010, 11:30 AM
Yes. Matt Bomer is not short! He has a NORMAL height. It's just that Superman is an extra TALL person. Let's call it what it is people. Superman is very tall, freakishly so. The way people are talking around here it's like Superman is normal height and everybody else is short.

I don't think Superman is freakishly tall as you put it. I'm his size and I don't feel freakishly tall or anything, in fact I wish I was taller (I have a 6'6 cousin).

Project862006
10-06-2010, 11:33 AM
Armie Hammer has the best height and frame for Supes

JAK®
10-06-2010, 11:36 AM
I don't think Superman is freakishly tall as you put it. I'm his size and I don't feel freakishly tall or anything, in fact I wish I was taller (I have a 6'6 cousin).
6'3 is significantly taller than most people in the world. Average height in non-western countries tends to hover around 5'7 for men, so keep that in mind. It's not freakish, but it can't be called anything other than tall. I'm 5'11 and I feel tall.

Daybreak_st
10-06-2010, 11:46 AM
No Daybreak and Keyser, the problem is the court problems Superman are in 2014. It rules out any sequel deal. This is going to be a stand alone movie.


See if this is accurate then are they just trying to milk Superman for all he's worth before they lose the rights? That just seems silly. If the movie does indeed bomb, or only does as good as SR then they'll be in the same boat as Marvel with Hulk and his subsequent reboot. It didn't exactly work wonders for the character.

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to simply pay whatever movie they'd need to pay and craft a new Franchise with the character even it's not handled for a few years rather than "hey let's rush production of a new Superman film and potentially lose profits if it tanks b/c this is our last shot at sole ownership". That just doesn't add up.

DC has Batman, soon Green Lantern. Why even bother with one stand alone movie, the casting, effects, sets etc alll to be thrown away after the movie is finished no matter if even made box office Gold? REally :huh:

That makes no sense. If they needed to just make a superman movie that bad then they really should've just done a sequel to Superman Returns. Just replace the troublesome cast members like Lois and let Singer or another director handle it. Casting and story were already in place. You'd have made serious money with less preproduction costs, people would've known what they were getting into (lower expectations) so anything better than the original would've created more positive buzz. Plus it makes sense as a "stand alone film without any sequels".

Rebooting a character for one film seems a little pointless.

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 11:59 AM
Apparently I have to post this a thousand times a day http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724 I'm about to start infracting people for it.

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 12:03 PM
Well i'm only on season 6 so far so maybe that's why i'm not sold on her. As for the mod thing I can suggest any actor I want can't I? Or is this not a free country.

Uh, no...it's the internet...specificly Mirko's corner of the internet called SUPERHEROHYPE....when you come here, you cross the border out of America, Canada, Japan, England, etc and enter the country of SHH.

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 12:11 PM
I think we should censor the words "tights" and "cape" in the Costume thread. People use them far too often, I'm getting sick of seeing them. Maybe start handing out infractions for saying them, too.

Strider14
10-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Matthew Bomer isn't short...

I was responding to someone else's comment as to Bomer and being short, but Bomer is too small in stature to play Superman. Superman should have a large and imposting physical stature. Camera angles and lifts in shoes do not make a person's physical torso look larger. It may make them look taller, but that doesn't make them look more imposing if they don't have the height, shoulders and build to pull it off. :cwink:

5'11" may not be "short", but for the role of Superman, it most certainly is.

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 12:29 PM
I was responding to someone else's comment as to Bomer and being short, but Bomer is too small in stature to play Superman. Superman should have a large and imposting physical stature. Camera angles and lifts in shoes do not make a person's physical torso look larger. It may make them look taller, but that doesn't make them look more imposing if they don't have the height, shoulders and build to pull it off. :cwink:

Well said Strider14.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 12:35 PM
I don't think Superman is freakishly tall as you put it. I'm his size and I don't feel freakishly tall or anything, in fact I wish I was taller (I have a 6'6 cousin).

If you're not bothered by it don't then why are you calling me out on it. :p Whatever size you are, fine make it work for you. But I dated a guy who was 1,93 once and I swore, never again! :p For the record, I'm 1,68 myself.

cronosred
10-06-2010, 12:53 PM
Armie Hammer interview
He gets asked about Superman

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Hammer is quickly becoming my no.1 choice for the role especially after that interview. IMO, Hammer has the look, height, voice, and best of all acting chops for Superman, my guess is if WB doesn't sign him up for a role Marvel probably will.

Daybreak_st
10-06-2010, 12:59 PM
I was responding to someone else's comment as to Bomer and being short, but Bomer is too small in stature to play Superman. Superman should have a large and imposting physical stature. Camera angles and lifts in shoes do not make a person's physical torso look larger. It may make them look taller, but that doesn't make them look more imposing if they don't have the height, shoulders and build to pull it off. :cwink:

5'11" may not be "short", but for the role of Superman, it most certainly is.


And yet it's what they're doing with Captain America...makes you wonder how important all the "he's got to be at least 6'4" is these days. Is it prefered, sure, but is it absolutely the most important aspect of casting Superman...i say no. If you find a guy that's perfect but only 5'11, i think it can work if he's in solid shape etc. But that's just me. If they can find a perfect 6'4 guy then more power to them. If this is indeed a stand-alone film as many here suggest i seriously wondering how much time/energy/effort their goign to put into the casting process.

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 01:13 PM
I think we should censor the words "tights" and "cape" in the Costume thread. People use them far too often, I'm getting sick of seeing them. Maybe start handing out infractions for saying them, too.

I'll get right on that.

GreenKToo
10-06-2010, 01:22 PM
He11 froze over I guess. I never thought i'd actually like Hammer for Supes, but I find myself digging the idea...

Daybreak_st
10-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Anywho this guy has a good look and build.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dL9acL68wYE/TF33_0bX18I/AAAAAAAACGM/a6wpMXsEsU8/s1600/matt-cohen-new-photo-shoot-04.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6660/cgch5nhfotgsfhth.jpg

his name is Matt Cohen and he's around 28.


I still don't know about the height thing. I mean can you look at this guy and tell how tall he is?

hopefuldreamer
10-06-2010, 01:32 PM
Oh absolutely. Either we get a young unknown and people complain about not having an actor with the gravitas and presence to pull off the role, or we get a good actor and people complain because his chin isn't square enough or his chest isn't broad enough.

It's definitely going to be a hairy time :( But hey, who knows, maybe they will find a good actor that no one has thought of, who has the body, the look, the voice and a history of playing similar characters...

That's the new word... New York Magazine’s Vulture has learned that the story will follow Clark Kent, a journalist traveling the world “trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman.”

The article does say WB's original take on Superman when they were talking with Aronofsky, so they may have a different take

That would put him in his early twenties, so most of the popular names mentioned here will be out of the running if this is true.

If it follows the Birthright series, then he ends up going back to Smallville to figure out things.

Smallville on the big screen anyone?


See all that article says to me is that they have heard some information about Clark travelling the world being a bit of the plot, and this infos been passed down through people and come out as 'the plot is...'

It's all chinease whispers. They are not going to release a movie where Superman isn't Superman the whole time. This is obviously not THE plot of the movie, it's just a bit of the plot. Could be flashbacks for all we know.

eh, i dunno how i feel about that. If they can get it to be like Begins, then awesome. But i think the reason Begins worked is bc Batman is a dark character.

With Kent, i see him walking around in china, japan, etc and watching crimes happen b4 his eyes and knowing there will be people he can't help.... but what in between? Begins had the training part of it, how does Supes train once he decides to become Superman? What will be the tragedy that makes him go on a journey to find himself in the first place etc...

it just sounds boring without the dark elements...
.

Well it could be interesting to see a few things. Like him trusting someone with his secret and regretting it, or him being spotted by someone and having to run... all teaching him why he needs a secret identity. There are plenty of ideas out there.

There doesn't have to be a tragedy. He could just be like every single person in their early twenties and want to see the world and find himself. And of course, he can see anywhere he wants and not have to pay for flights. It'd be kind of nice to show him seeing the amazing sides to humanity... parts of different cultures and having good relationships with people. I think it needs to be established that he's not a broody miserable hero, he's a happy and hopeful hero who's negative emotions are only really brought out by people like Lex, who represent everything he despises and try and bring him down.

He doesn't like people who hurt other people, but there is this huge difference between him and Batman. Batman pounds the criminals, Superman saves the victims. His biggest concern is not punishment, but saving lives and preventing suffering.

Superman Auditions Commence Next Month (http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/movie-news/2010/10/6/superman-auditions-commence-next-month.html)

Not impressed with that 'dead' guy noah... but good to know that we are moving swiftly along :D

When the experts try and figure out why the number of comic book fans are thinning out...I'll send them this to ponder over. :whatever:

:woot:

hmmm, they want a name huh. I'd really be interested in the age range that their asking for in the auditions.
They mentioned Hamm, but if it's clark roaming the world pondering on becoming superman, then it sounds like they will want a youngish actor, 25 or so.
I'd LMAO at a 40 year old wondering if he should be superman or not lol.

Yeah that definitely changes things a lot... unless they plan on having flashbacks.

Uh, no...it's the internet...specificly Mirko's corner of the internet called SUPERHEROHYPE....when you come here, you cross the border out of America, Canada, Japan, England, etc and enter the country of SHH.

SHH... as in shhhhh!.. as in shut up about those who shall not be named... We are in the country of SHH and therefore must shhhhh!

ChickenScratch
10-06-2010, 01:34 PM
If you're not bothered by it don't then why are you calling me out on it. :p Whatever size you are, fine make it work for you. But I dated a guy who was 1,93 once and I swore, never again! :p For the record, I'm 1,68 myself.

How is that calling you out? I don't see 5'11 as tall, maybe you do, but you are smaller than that so anything more would seem tall to you.

There's no way you can cheat with angles, lifts and all to hide the fact. Below 5'11 is small, small for Superman.

JAK®
10-06-2010, 01:45 PM
I was responding to someone else's comment as to Bomer and being short, but Bomer is too small in stature to play Superman. Superman should have a large and imposting physical stature. Camera angles and lifts in shoes do not make a person's physical torso look larger. It may make them look taller, but that doesn't make them look more imposing if they don't have the height, shoulders and build to pull it off. :cwink:

5'11" may not be "short", but for the role of Superman, it most certainly is.
Bomer is quite small but not all men are built the same (I'm pretty sure I'm much bigger than Bomer despite being the sane height). Being shorter does not necessarily mean you are smaller, and in fact the taller you get the skinnier you look. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man who ever lived was 8'11 and 450lbs... but he was skinny as a rake.

That person
10-06-2010, 01:46 PM
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/The_Blackjack_Joker/ArmieKent2.jpg
I checked out some clips of his movies. Even without seeing The Social Network yet, he's got my vote.

DCnightwing23
10-06-2010, 01:55 PM
I really admire Hammer, and i think he's a great actor and he's gonna have a long career imo, but i dont see him as Superman at all, and there really hasnt been a solid manip of him or anything to make me believe he's the right choice. Its not only his looks, but i do think there are better choices out there

Project862006
10-06-2010, 02:02 PM
thing is i have not seen an actor as good and as tall as him dude is 6'5 perfect for superman

but i can see where people who dont see him as supes are coming from

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 02:21 PM
What about Kristoffer Polaha from Life Unexpected, Mad Men, Billy: The Early Years (with Armie Hammer) and a few other things.

He's 6'3", well built, has a good voice and could have a look of an old school Superman, but a different look to Reeve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13kyO_afM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHdwNGgnyIk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHdwNGgnyIk)

He's 33, so looks more of a mature Superman but not too old like John Hamm. He might have to lose a bit of weight in his face, but he could look old school, especially if he slicks back his hair.

That person
10-06-2010, 02:23 PM
thing is i have not seen an actor as good and as tall as him dude is 6'5 perfect for superman

but i can see where people who dont see him as supes are coming from
Yeah. There is the flaw of his rounder face. A good workout routine should get rid of the facial fat though, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal in the end. Besides, a slightly rounder jawline could be accentuated when he's disguised as Clark, especially if his glasses are like these:
http://www.framesdirect.com/cdimages_elg/goldfinch-G009-lennon-eyeglasses-black-knight.jpg

JAK®
10-06-2010, 02:24 PM
A round jawline can be fixed with a good haircut.

gdw
10-06-2010, 02:33 PM
You know, a lot of the names being thrown around now are REALLY getting me excited again. I haven't heard of plenty of them, but they don't look half bad.

I'd say if anyone of them get cast we will be in for something interesting at least. Be it fan fav like Cavil, who may be considered a bit short, or another "fav" like Hamm who could be called too short and too old.

If Hamm gets cast, we definitely know we will be getting a different take on Superman. Mind you, someone older like him would have made much more sense is Returns. I always thought Routh would have been GREAT in a Birthright esque Superman film. He would have worked great as a wet 'behind the ears' Superman.

BH/HHH
10-06-2010, 02:34 PM
http://www.poptower.com/pic-30983/rick-malambri.jpg?w=450&h=450

gdw
10-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Yeah. There is the flaw of his rounder face. A good workout routine should get rid of the facial fat though, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal in the end. Besides, a slightly rounder jawline could be accentuated when he's disguised as Clark, especially if his glasses are like these:
http://www.framesdirect.com/cdimages_elg/goldfinch-G009-lennon-eyeglasses-black-knight.jpg

Personally, as long as the guy doesn't have a pointy chin. The first appearance of Superman had a thicker face with a more rounded jawline. A square jaw, as long as it's not too much, like, say, Bruce Campbell, works well too.

As mentioned, a "roundER" jaw line could be played up for Clark, and squared up for Superman, through posture and even subtle makeup.

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 02:37 PM
You know, a lot of the names being thrown around now are REALLY getting me excited again. I haven't heard of plenty of them, but they don't look half bad.

I'd say if anyone of them get cast we will be in for something interesting at least. Be it fan fav like Cavil, who may be considered a bit short, or another "fav" like Hamm who could be called too short and too old.

If Hamm gets cast, we definitely know we will be getting a different take on Superman. Mind you, someone older like him would have made much more sense is Returns. I always thought Routh would have been GREAT in a Birthright esque Superman film. He would have worked great as a wet 'behind the ears' Superman.

Just thought I'd highlight that word for the mods, since you can't mention that name. Don't do it again.

gdw
10-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Just thought I'd highlight that word for the mods, since you can't mention that name. Don't do it again.

Really? You're gonna get whiny like that? Or are we really not even allowed to mention them in passing? I thought it was for discussing them at length, where as this thread was meant for casting talk in general.

DorkyFresh
10-06-2010, 02:43 PM
Just thought I'd highlight that word for the mods, since you can't mention that name. Don't do it again.
:doh:

this is one of the reasons i think that rule is dumb. we get mod-wannabe's like this nut trying to reinforce the rule when it doesn't need to be enforced....then he acts all snotty about it.

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 02:44 PM
I guess the sarcasm was lost on you guys.

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 02:44 PM
http://www.poptower.com/pic-30983/rick-malambri.jpg?w=450&h=450

You may be on to something. He really looks like Jim Lee's Superman in this picture.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/rick-malambri_11.jpg

But I wasn't impressed with his acting in Step Up.

BH/HHH
10-06-2010, 02:46 PM
You may be on to something. He really looks like Jim Lee's Superman in this picture.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/ComicDiva/rick-malambri_11.jpg

But I wasn't impressed with his acting in Step Up.

Well I havent seen him in Step Up so I cant really comment, I'll admit I havent seen alot of his acting. Its probably something that the director could work on with him I mean Step Up isnt exactly gonna be a great script n that.

He has the look for me though

RachelDawes
10-06-2010, 02:48 PM
I really admire Hammer, and i think he's a great actor and he's gonna have a long career imo, but i dont see him as Superman at all, and there really hasnt been a solid manip of him or anything to make me believe he's the right choice. Its not only his looks, but i do think there are better choices out there

I feel the same way. I'm already fairly down on Goyer and Snyder. Adding Hammer to the mix would drop my enthusiasm for the movie considerably.

LadyVader
10-06-2010, 02:52 PM
Its probably something that the director could work on with him I mean Step Up isnt exactly gonna be a great script n that.

If Channing Tatum, who also got his start in the first Step Up movie, got the part of your favourite superhero... would you be satisfied with "the director can work with him on that"? Hellz... no. And at least Tatum is actually kind of decent guy, even if he's a crap actor.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 03:18 PM
Uh, no...it's the internet...specificly Mirko's corner of the internet called SUPERHEROHYPE....when you come here, you cross the border out of America, Canada, Japan, England, etc and enter the country of SHH.






We should have known the ridiculous trollish posters would invade the Superman forums after the Snyder hiring. :o

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 03:18 PM
:doh:

this is one of the reasons i think that rule is dumb. we get mod-wannabe's like this nut trying to reinforce the rule when it doesn't need to be enforced....then he acts all snotty about it.

To be fair, the mods have started stamping down on even passing mentions now, so it's not like Night Raven's warning was without precedent. Though I did pick up on the sarcasm of it too, NR.

BH/HHH
10-06-2010, 03:20 PM
You should be able to mention them though, if its relevant to what you're saying then why not? Like someone said i you want to go in depth about one of them then fair enough go to their threads but if its just a small mention that is relevant to what you are saying then you should be able to.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 03:24 PM
hmmm, they want a name huh. I'd really be interested in the age range that their asking for in the auditions.
They mentioned Hamm, but if it's clark roaming the world pondering on becoming superman, then it sounds like they will want a youngish actor, 25 or so.
I'd LMAO at a 40 year old wondering if he should be superman or not lol.






Hmmm...just maybe he is not wondering whether he should be Superman or not?

Didn't we here beforehand that this Superman will already be an established Superman? What if he is already established and on duty doing a story in the 3rd world country?

Words of wisdom for all you worry wart fanboys.

When it comes to a Chris Nolan production.....don't believe every "rumor" you read online.

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Geeze Louise.....

It's how you mention them. If you say HAMM, ROUTH, CAVILL, and WELLING are in contention for the role....that's one thing.

You come on and post - WELLING for Superman!!!!
You come on and post - Cavill for Superman!!!!

You'll get in trouble.

Use some common sense people

MechaOrga
10-06-2010, 03:26 PM
I was responding to someone else's comment as to Bomer and being short, but Bomer is too small in stature to play Superman. Superman should have a large and imposting physical stature. Camera angles and lifts in shoes do not make a person's physical torso look larger. It may make them look taller, but that doesn't make them look more imposing if they don't have the height, shoulders and build to pull it off. :cwink:

5'11" may not be "short", but for the role of Superman, it most certainly is.

As some of you know from the bat boards i work in TV and constantly find myself on sets here and there (i specifically work in commercials but have friends in Movie business)

anyway this is by no means a scoop but i was on the set of white collar with Mathew Bomer. Stood right next to him as he walked down the street shooting.

Dude is not 5'11...more like 5'9

VERY good looking dude. skinny but fit, would make a great superman IF he was at least 6 foot.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 03:27 PM
If the recent rumor is true that the movie is about "Clark Kent (a journalist) traveling the world trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman", then I don't see Hamm getting the role.





Don't believe the rumor. We have heard many times before that in this film, Superman will already be established.

We'll see though.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 03:29 PM
We can only hope he gets the role.:woot:





He has the charisma, the look, and the acting chops.

Plus he has built a solid relationship with WB's by being in The Town and the upcoming Snyder film Sucker Punch.

He is that all important familiarity working with Snyder before also.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 03:40 PM
Really I don't think Height should matter to much because the camera could always make a person look taller then what they are.





Yep.

Also casting shorter supporting actors as well.

hopefuldreamer
10-06-2010, 03:48 PM
As some of you know from the bat boards i work in TV and constantly find myself on sets here and there (i specifically work in commercials but have friends in Movie business)

anyway this is by no means a scoop but i was on the set of white collar with Mathew Bomer. Stood right next to him as he walked down the street shooting.

Dude is not 5'11...more like 5'9

VERY good looking dude. skinny but fit, would make a great superman IF he was at least 6 foot.

I respect your opinion, but i'm going to have to go with his official height according to every website that has it, rather than your judgement call...

GreenKToo
10-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Hmmm...just maybe he is not wondering whether he should be Superman or not?

Didn't we here beforehand that this Superman will already be an established Superman? What if he is already established and on duty doing a story in the 3rd world country?

Words of wisdom for all you worry wart fanboys.

When it comes to a Chris Nolan production.....don't believe every "rumor" you read online.
yes, we did at first, but now we're hearing totally different stuff so who knows.

MechaOrga
10-06-2010, 03:55 PM
I respect your opinion, but i'm going to have to go with his official height according to every website that has it, rather than your judgement call...

no problem HS!

just telling you what I encountered last friday Oct 1st between madison and 5th avenue in NYC ;)

(BTW im 6'0 185 lbs and he was much smaller than me)

He does have a great look though! very supermanish and he's good looking in person.

He's just a small dude.

JAK®
10-06-2010, 03:59 PM
I respect your opinion, but i'm going to have to go with his official height according to every website that has it, rather than your judgement call...
Well it's a rule of thumb that celebrity height listings are usually two inches above what they actually are.

I remember when Sam Worthington first appeared on the scene he was listed at 6'2. He's lucky to be 5'8. But he's listed as 5'10 now :cwink:

Project862006
10-06-2010, 04:07 PM
if they want to get Jon Hamm they must get Rebeca Hall for Lois:word:
http://www.wmagazine.com/images/celebrities/2010/08/cess_hamm_hall_01_h.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/16bwtix.jpg

gdw
10-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Geeze Louise.....

It's how you mention them. If you say HAMM, ROUTH, CAVILL, and WELLING are in contention for the role....that's one thing.

You come on and post - WELLING for Superman!!!!
You come on and post - Cavill for Superman!!!!

You'll get in trouble.

Use some common sense people


I'd imagine that could be with ANY name. If someone was coming on and all they were saying was "HAMM for Superman" I imagine their posts would get deleted as well.

Does that mean you CAN just post "CAVILL for Superman" in the Cavill thread?

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 04:15 PM
I don't know about Rebecca Hall. She seems too sweet and gentle for Lois and too innocent looking.

hopefuldreamer
10-06-2010, 04:21 PM
no problem HS!

just telling you what I encountered last friday Oct 1st between madison and 5th avenue in NYC ;)

(BTW im 6'0 185 lbs and he was much smaller than me)

He does have a great look though! very supermanish and he's good looking in person.

He's just a small dude.

I personally agree with you anyway. When I first saw him in Traveler, I thought his build was a lot better. Even his face looks more defined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFUqFkm6Tg&feature=related

I'm not sure if it's just the fact the other two main guys in Traveler were shorter, or the way White Collar is shot, or if he has thinned (lol) but he definitely doesn't have a Supermanly figure now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_IHOvVv7I

I mean just go to about 1.16 and look at how skinny his legs look! It's weird the difference IMO.

Well it's a rule of thumb that celebrity height listings are usually two inches above what they actually are.

I remember when Sam Worthington first appeared on the scene he was listed at 6'2. He's lucky to be 5'8. But he's listed as 5'10 now :cwink:

Does that mean Tom Cruise is actually 5'5 :p

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 04:52 PM
Yep.

Also casting shorter supporting actors as well.

They would have to cast actors considerably shorter, because Superman/ Clark Kent shouldn't just be a few small inches taller than others, but should stand head and shoulders above the rest. That means if you're going to cast shorter supporting actors, that will rule out too many other people who could be right for supporting roles. It's best just to get an actor of the right height for Superman in the first place, and that gives them more flexibility with the rest.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 05:06 PM
Good news if true, regarding the filmmakers and studio preferring experienced NAMED actors for the role of Supes this time around, ahead of pretty boy inexperienced unknowns with zero charisma.

http://www.whatsplaying.com.au/2010/10/film-news-hollywood-insider-61010/

C. Lee
10-06-2010, 05:29 PM
Geeze Louise.....

It's how you mention them. If you say HAMM, ROUTH, CAVILL, and WELLING are in contention for the role....that's one thing.

You come on and post - WELLING for Superman!!!!
You come on and post - Cavill for Superman!!!!

You'll get in trouble.

Use some common sense people

I'd imagine that could be with ANY name. If someone was coming on and all they were saying was "HAMM for Superman" I imagine their posts would get deleted as well.

Does that mean you CAN just post "CAVILL for Superman" in the Cavill thread?

See the bolded part above? If it's the CAVILL FOR SUPERMAN thread....then it is OK to go into it and post CAVILL FOR SUPERMAN.....now, if you went into that thread and only posted that post over and over...that would be spamming.

NOW...in answer to your next inevitable question....how many times can you post that post before it is considered spamming....TWO. Yep, you read right...TWO. Why TWO....why not.

SuperMike335!!
10-06-2010, 06:35 PM
Armie Hammer has the best height and frame for Supes

No way, both Hammer and Joe Manganiello are the same height for one, and Joe has about the perfect build for Superman.

He has the kind of build that looks very muscular shirtless, or in tight clothing, but completely hides in regular clothes.

Off hand, I think both are likely only 6'3", even though listed at 6'5", as most actors heights are inflated by about 2", or the height they are in shoes, and rounded up to the nearest inch.

Anyway, as for what Joe Manganiello looks like shirtless (also in skin tight clothes), vs. in a suit.

You can dislike his face/nose acting whatever all you want, but the guy DOES have the best frame and build for both Clark and Superman out of all who have been mentioned.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7107/0681fae1f3f97550ae89eaf.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5221/joemanganiellotrueblood.jpg

Dark Raven
10-06-2010, 07:06 PM
I could support Joe Manganiello for Superman. He looks more the part than Hammer. I haven't seen a close up of his nose though.

Gianakin_
10-06-2010, 07:09 PM
Good news if true, regarding the filmmakers and studio preferring experienced NAMED actors for the role of Supes this time around, ahead of pretty boy inexperienced unknowns with zero charisma.

Apart from the charisma part (which is a matter of opinion), you just described Christopher Reeve.

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 07:14 PM
No way, both Hammer and Joe Manganiello are the same height for one, and Joe has about the perfect build for Superman.

He has the kind of build that looks very muscular shirtless, or in tight clothing, but completely hides in regular clothes.

Off hand, I think both are likely only 6'3", even though listed at 6'5", as most actors heights are inflated by about 2", or the height they are in shoes, and rounded up to the nearest inch.

Anyway, as for what Joe Manganiello looks like shirtless (also in skin tight clothes), vs. in a suit.

You can dislike his face/nose acting whatever all you want, but the guy DOES have the best frame and build for both Clark and Superman out of all who have been mentioned.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7107/0681fae1f3f97550ae89eaf.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5221/joemanganiellotrueblood.jpg

You may gloss over the "acting" part, but this is an essential part of the equation for me. You can get someone muscular, someone who looks the part to a T, but if I haven't seen them act, if I can't tell if they're a good actor, then I'm not going to get behind him. I've not seen Season 3 of True Blood - I'll have to see how Joe Manganiello fares in that before I even consider him as a possibility for Superman.

DV8
10-06-2010, 07:22 PM
Will Smith for Superman

GreenKToo
10-06-2010, 07:24 PM
Even Will Smith laughed at that when asked about it before.

Changeling
10-06-2010, 07:25 PM
Jon Hamm as Superman
Carla Gugino as Lois
Gerard Butler as Zod
Bruce Greenwood as Perry White
David Bowie as Brainiac
Daniel Craig as Lex Luthor

Project862006
10-06-2010, 07:30 PM
You may gloss over the "acting" part, but this is an essential part of the equation for me. You can get someone muscular, someone who looks the part to a T, but if I haven't seen them act, if I can't tell if they're a good actor, then I'm not going to get behind him. I've not seen Season 3 of True Blood - I'll have to see how Joe Manganiello fares in that before I even consider him as a possibility for Superman.
you know he played Flash Thompson in spidey 1 lol
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/45195-25618.gif
not much confidence lol

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 07:35 PM
Was he Flash Thompson? Wow, didn't know that.

DarkSovereignty
10-06-2010, 08:15 PM
Jon Hamm as Superman
Carla Gugino as Lois
Gerard Butler as Zod
Bruce Greenwood as Perry White
David Bowie as Brainiac
Daniel Craig as Lex Luthor
that cast is... rather brilliant actually, especially david bowie as braniac, that would just be awesome.

Slugster
10-06-2010, 08:28 PM
you know he played Flash Thompson in spidey 1 lol
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/45195-25618.gif
not much confidence lol
Bizzaro maybe LOL!:oldrazz:

Octoberist
10-06-2010, 08:29 PM
wait, he was Flash Thompson?

Keyser Soze
10-06-2010, 08:34 PM
It may be petty, but are Warner Bros really want to cast the guy who got his ass beat by Spider-Man as their new Superman?

Red Cherry Lips
10-06-2010, 09:20 PM
Cool Thanks. Seems he'd be pretty happy to do it. :yay:

I know I'd be thrilled to see him as the MOS and Clark on the big screen!!! :up:

Young Superman
10-06-2010, 09:28 PM
Armie Hammer or Joe Manganiello for Superman.

Octoberist
10-06-2010, 10:04 PM
Armie HAMMER for the win

Asgard
10-06-2010, 10:45 PM
It may be petty, but are Warner Bros really want to cast the guy who got his ass beat by Spider-Man as their new Superman?
LMAO. Yeah right. Like the guys involved in the casting process at WB are going to even know Joe played Flash Thompson or even care.

mercureyx
10-06-2010, 11:23 PM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/HammSuperman_color.jpg

M.O.Steel
10-06-2010, 11:28 PM
Will Smith for Superman

Even Will Smith laughed at that before when asked about it.

and we got Hancock out of that. hmmm...

DCnightwing23
10-06-2010, 11:29 PM
Manganiello would be a great superman, for a tv series not for a big screen adaptation. Im sorry but i dont want him near a Superman movie just because he has the right build for him. Anyone can get into that shape within a few months. Id rather them focus on more important things for a Superman film thats very important at the moment, seeing as this might be the last film we see for awhile. Basing casting on how ripped the actor is is gonna ruin this movie and make another Superman movie highly unlikely. I say they can find someone better.

M.O.Steel
10-06-2010, 11:34 PM
interesting...

i always thought would hamm would have been perfect for the SR story, and routh would have been perfect for the origin story. they are bass-ackwards.

mercureyx
10-06-2010, 11:36 PM
interesting...

i always thought would hamm would have been perfect for the SR story, and routh would have been perfect for the origin story. they are bass-ackwards.

Haha that's actually a very good point... I know they're keeping all of their options open, but whoever is cast will NOT be an unknown.

Astrodust
10-06-2010, 11:50 PM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/NOLANSSUPERMAN.jpg

If you are making a case for Hamm, I would avoid using the SR suit for a manip lol.

Dark Knight
10-06-2010, 11:56 PM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/NOLANSSUPERMAN.jpg







Don't use the SR suit in a manip please.

Sub-Zero
10-07-2010, 12:03 AM
hamm being cast, or even meeting with the snyder/nolan wouldn't really make sense if the movie is actually about clark kent as a journalist traveling the world trying to decide if he should even become Superman. unless...he was already superman and gave it up, but that doesn't really make sense.

Dark Knight
10-07-2010, 12:07 AM
Haha that's actually a very good point... I know they're keeping all of their options open, but whoever is cast will NOT be an unknown.





Like hearing that! :up:

mercureyx
10-07-2010, 12:07 AM
The script is still evolving...

Aesop Rocks
10-07-2010, 12:07 AM
Hamm is meeting with Snyder and Nolan?

Dark Knight
10-07-2010, 12:10 AM
The script is still evolving...





As it should be.

I expect nothing less from the Nolan Bros, Goyer, and Snyder. :word:

The Democrat
10-07-2010, 12:12 AM
that cast is... rather brilliant actually, especially david bowie as braniac, that would just be awesome.

Oh man Bowie was my immediate thought when Duncan Jones was on the short list. I got so damn excited about the idea. Ah thunder stolen. good on him though.

mercureyx
10-07-2010, 12:14 AM
Also, keep in mind that Snyder AND Nolan like to use the same actors in their films AND that often times, a meeting for one role turns into an offer for another. Cillian Murphy tested for the Bruce Wayne/Batman role - got offered the Scarecrow. Nicholas Cage was originally pursued for the Lex Luthor role in Superman Lives - got offered the lead as Superman. Everyone should just understand it's very early in the process. Keep an open mind...

P.S. Jon Hamm is in Suckerpunch, directed by Zack Snyder...

romeogbs19
10-07-2010, 12:17 AM
hamm being cast, or even meeting with the snyder/nolan wouldn't really make sense if the movie is actually about clark kent as a journalist traveling the world trying to decide if he should even become Superman. unless...he was already superman and gave it up, but that doesn't really make sense.

You know, there's no reason to think that those scenes could merely be used to "re-introduce" the character. They could go ahead and cast another actor in his 20s to play the first 1/3 of the film as Clark, and then Hamm takes over for the 2/3 of the film.

We saw it in Batman Begins, too, though a much younger Bruce who never really said anything. I don't see why Nolan/Goyer/Snyder would be opposed to doing this in a flashback sequence.

Besides, you can't spend an entire film having Clark wander about -- and given the rumors that Superman doesn't show up until 1/3 into the flick, the flashback method could be a real possibility (that is, presuming even these rumors are true ... which I'm thinking they might be).

The set up would be easy; you have a 20s-something Clark travel around and tell his story of what led him to be Superman, and then you see him don the suit, then after a series of newspaper reels and news reports later, you see Jon Hamm onscreen. This is also a very excellent way Nolan/Goyer/Snyder can show how Superman remains relevant. You can use the time shift from young to old to show how people no longer seem to care or appreciate him, and then demonstrate why the character remains important and meaningful today.

IOW, you can accomplish what Returns wanted to do without having Supes abandon mankind for 5 years.

Dark Knight
10-07-2010, 12:24 AM
Oh man Bowie was my immediate thought when Duncan Jones was on the short list. I got so damn excited about the idea. Ah thunder stolen. good on him though.





Bowie would be great as Brainiac! :wow:

The Democrat
10-07-2010, 12:27 AM
A big difference IMO.
Would fans accept an actor as supes if they found out he was gay ?
Mind you that we're talking about a lead actor and not some supporting player like McKellen as Magneto.

I do remember a debate here in the Superman forums about this very same topic. Quite a few posters had problems with a gay actor playing supes.

Then quite a few posters have problems.

Dark Knight
10-07-2010, 12:36 AM
Well, I heard from a buddy right after the Snyder hiring that WB's execs, Legendary producer Tull, Nolan and now Snyder all would like Hamm in the role.

They all like what he would bring to the table and he has the mojo going for him now, but it's not a given he will wind up being cast.

Lone
10-07-2010, 12:37 AM
WB will never cast Bomer. It would be a PR nightmare for them. If they go short, then they need to go with Scott Adkins. A manly Superman who knows how to fight, can act and nails the build and look with no extra effort needed.

Superman is a brawler. Superman does not need to know martial arts. We almost got that with Abrams' Superman.

Adkins may be a good martial artist but I seriously doubt he has the on screen presence, acting ability and marketability as Bomer.

But this argument is moot since both men won't get anywhere near this role. I'm only saying that if they wanted to go with a shorter (under 6ft) guy, there are others better suited for the role other than Hamm.

Aesop Rocks
10-07-2010, 12:40 AM
Dark Knight, you're making me EXTREMELY happy right now.

A billion more times happy than I was when Renner was cast as Hawkeye.

Dark Knight
10-07-2010, 01:08 AM
Dark Knight, you're making me EXTREMELY happy right now.

A billion more times happy than I was when Renner was cast as Hawkeye.




Yeah, when I heard that I was pretty stoked as well.

We'll see what happens though. Nothing is a given.

hoopy3
10-07-2010, 01:16 AM
Just returned from seeing "Social Network". Have to say that Armie Hammer would be an excellent choice. The height is one of the obvious reasons, however, he also has a natural on screen charisma. In addition his face doesn't seem to rounded whatsoever in the movie (i agree that in some of the pics online it seems this way). Finally his voice is very intimidating and powerful...I agree there are other good choices out there. Prior to seeing this movie I would have said Cavill was my top choice, but my opinion has been changed. Hammer has the ability look mature even though he is young. Many of the other actors mentioned look like kids to me even though they may be older. Reeve was a good example of looking mature at a young age. He was 25 when he was cast as Superman, yet if you look at the original movie he seemed way more mature than that. Hopefully Hammer will get consideration. His stock definitely should go up after Social Network...which is an amazing movie by the way.

XxDelta09xX
10-07-2010, 01:24 AM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/HammSuperman_color.jpg

This is Awesome!!!:wow:

Can I use this for my avvy?:woot:

hopefuldreamer
10-07-2010, 01:59 AM
Also, keep in mind that Snyder AND Nolan like to use the same actors in their films AND that often times, a meeting for one role turns into an offer for another. Cillian Murphy tested for the Bruce Wayne/Batman role - got offered the Scarecrow. Nicholas Cage was originally pursued for the Lex Luthor role in Superman Lives - got offered the lead as Superman. Everyone should just understand it's very early in the process. Keep an open mind...

P.S. Jon Hamm is in Suckerpunch, directed by Zack Snyder...

So they will meet with him to discuss this 'Superman' possibility and then land on casting him as Lex/Jonathon/Jor-el?

Yeah I like the sound of that :)

Aesop Rocks
10-07-2010, 02:15 AM
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7793/s60fmg.jpg

hopefuldreamer
10-07-2010, 02:21 AM
Lmfao!

Aesop Rocks
10-07-2010, 02:24 AM
Took me longer than it should have. :csad:

GreenKToo
10-07-2010, 07:39 AM
hehe. funny Aesop.

anywho, pretty sweet info about Hamm meeting with nolan and snyder, if it's true that is.

Red Cherry Lips
10-07-2010, 07:54 AM
Just returned from seeing "Social Network". Have to say that Armie Hammer would be an excellent choice. The height is one of the obvious reasons, however, he also has a natural on screen charisma. In addition his face doesn't seem to rounded whatsoever in the movie (i agree that in some of the pics online it seems this way). Finally his voice is very intimidating and powerful...I agree there are other good choices out there. Prior to seeing this movie I would have said Cavill was my top choice, but my opinion has been changed. Hammer has the ability look mature even though he is young. Many of the other actors mentioned look like kids to me even though they may be older. Reeve was a good example of looking mature at a young age. He was 25 when he was cast as Superman, yet if you look at the original movie he seemed way more mature than that. Hopefully Hammer will get consideration. His stock definitely should go up after Social Network...which is an amazing movie by the way.

This. :up:

DarkSovereignty
10-07-2010, 08:01 AM
s'a toss up between hamm and hammer, never thought I'd use those two words consecutively.

Red Cherry Lips
10-07-2010, 08:07 AM
s'a toss up between hamm and hammer, never thought I'd use those two words consecutively.

LOL! Good catch! :awesome::woot:

Gianakin_
10-07-2010, 08:47 AM
Ok, I see we've got ourselves a new rumor. Since when have Hamm, Nolan and Snyder been meeting?

So, so far the script is a mess with Zod as a villain and Hamm is in talks to be Superman. Jesus H. Caviezel...

romeogbs19
10-07-2010, 12:50 PM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/HammSuperman_color.jpg

What an awesome, awesome manip. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the SR outfit, either, but this does show Hamm would look great in a Superman suit.

Man, that so screams Alex Ross Superman to me. Nolan/Snyder -- make this happen!

BTW, I used a link to your manip for my blog entry: http://greenpipe.wordpress.com/

bizbaz20
10-07-2010, 12:53 PM
Jon Hamm would be better suited for Jor-el than Superman.

DV8
10-07-2010, 12:54 PM
You know, there's no reason to think that those scenes could merely be used to "re-introduce" the character. They could go ahead and cast another actor in his 20s to play the first 1/3 of the film as Clark, and then Hamm takes over for the 2/3 of the film.

We saw it in Batman Begins, too, though a much younger Bruce who never really said anything. I don't see why Nolan/Goyer/Snyder would be opposed to doing this in a flashback sequence.

Besides, you can't spend an entire film having Clark wander about -- and given the rumors that Superman doesn't show up until 1/3 into the flick, the flashback method could be a real possibility (that is, presuming even these rumors are true ... which I'm thinking they might be).

The set up would be easy; you have a 20s-something Clark travel around and tell his story of what led him to be Superman, and then you see him don the suit, then after a series of newspaper reels and news reports later, you see Jon Hamm onscreen. This is also a very excellent way Nolan/Goyer/Snyder can show how Superman remains relevant. You can use the time shift from young to old to show how people no longer seem to care or appreciate him, and then demonstrate why the character remains important and meaningful today.

IOW, you can accomplish what Returns wanted to do without having Supes abandon mankind for 5 years.

meh . . . I think you're reaching; and personally, I think they need to get right down to business with this movie, and let Superman be Superman right away w/o beating around the bush for 2/3 of the movie before seeing some real action

Blackman
10-07-2010, 12:59 PM
Jon Hamm. He's meeting with Snyder and Nolan...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/mercureyx/HammSuperman_color.jpg
This is a really cool manip
And I used to see Hamm as my top choice for an older Superman. But looking at this manip he doesnt seem right for it:csad:

DV8
10-07-2010, 01:05 PM
you all know that when Superman is cast, it will most likely be NONE of the aforementioned actors in this or any other thread right? Lol . . . just like good ol' Heath

Dark Raven
10-07-2010, 01:18 PM
s'a toss up between hamm and hammer, never thought I'd use those two words consecutively.

That could cause confusion if someone at WB not confident at public speaking announces the winner verbally. "And...er...the role of ... er...Superman goes to ... er...Hamm...er... "

B
10-07-2010, 01:32 PM
I'd be disappointed if Hamm where cast, don't get me wrong I like his look & I think he seems like a competent enough actor.. but he just looks too old, he actually looks about 45 & I think hes 37 or not far off it..

If they where casting for a movie that was gonna be in a similar time period to the Kingdom Come series or a very well established Superman story then I'd be all for it, but not for a new supposed series of films.

I'd take him as Jor-El though.

GinsterHead
10-07-2010, 01:38 PM
I'd be disappointed if Hamm where cast, don't get me wrong I like his look & I think he seems like a competent enough actor.. but he just looks too old, he actually looks about 45 & I think hes 37 or not far off it..

If they where casting for a movie that was gonna be in a similar time period to the Kingdom Come series or a very well established Superman story then I'd be all for it, but not for a new supposed series of films.

I'd take him as Jor-El though.

This. :up:

No disrespect to Jon Hamm, but I just don't think he's right for Superman...at least, not as somebody who's supposed to have only just become Superman.

Besides which, he doesn't sound terribly interested about the prospect of playing the character. :dry:

SuperMike335!!
10-07-2010, 02:40 PM
This. :up:

No disrespect to Jon Hamm, but I just don't think he's right for Superman...at least, not as somebody who's supposed to have only just become Superman.

Besides which, he doesn't sound terribly interested about the prospect of playing the character. :dry:


Even an established Superman would still look around 30, not looking 40 until he is about 100 years old.

Keep in mind Superman does not age normally. 10 years into his career he would look no different than the first day he showed up in Metroplis.

I'm all for casting a guy who looks Masculine, and I certainly do not want him looking like a superboy. We can however get a guy who looks strong and masculine without having to look 40.

I could support Joe Manganiello for Superman. He looks more the part than Hammer. I haven't seen a close up of his nose though.

Just look back through the last couple dozen or so pages of this thread. You will find lots of them.

He has a dent from an obvious break on the left side of it. Any decent makup crew could easily fill it and it would look normal then.

You may gloss over the "acting" part, but this is an essential part of the equation for me. You can get someone muscular, someone who looks the part to a T, but if I haven't seen them act, if I can't tell if they're a good actor, then I'm not going to get behind him. I've not seen Season 3 of True Blood - I'll have to see how Joe Manganiello fares in that before I even consider him as a possibility for Superman.

The point of my post what when someone said that out of all the names being discussed the Hammer had the best frame. Which he does not. Joe M., who has had been discussed (check the last dozen pages of the thread) has the best build and frame out of those suggested.

So far as his acting goes, remember WE are not casting or considering anyone. He would still need to audition like anyone else.

What we are doing here is just throwing around opinions of who we think looks like the character, who we think has good enough acting chops, and who we think has the right build. - More than anything we are talking about criteria.

Regarding Joe Manganellio, his acting is IMHO plenty good on True Blood. Again however, like anyone he would have to test for the role.

If they do not go with him, whoever does get cast should be expected to get into as close to the shape that Joe is already in however.

M.O.Steel
10-07-2010, 03:24 PM
how about someone from their group. they tend to like reusing same people

Caine as Perry White
Butler, Matt Goode, Pat Wilson, Malin Akerman as Lois, maybe Mal from inception

TheWatcher
10-07-2010, 03:37 PM
What about Wilson as Superman? *Hides*
Screenrant makes a good argument for Hamm as Supes. That being said,if he is cast,I would be fine with it. But he's stil too old IMO.

RachelDawes
10-07-2010, 03:41 PM
^I'd like Wilson as Superman, but I'm not sure his face would change sufficiently with glasses.

meh . . . I think you're reaching; and personally, I think they need to get right down to business with this movie, and let Superman be Superman right away w/o beating around the bush for 2/3 of the movie before seeing some real action

I agree. After SR Superman can't afford to waste screentime. He'd better come out swinging.

The only way I'd agree to the flashback scenario is if the movie starts out with Superman fighting a villain and then the movie flashes back to his pre-Superman days.

solidsnake86
10-07-2010, 03:51 PM
I agree. After SR Superman can't afford to waste screentime. He'd better come out swinging.

The only way I'd agree to the flashback scenario is if the movie starts out with Superman fighting a villain and then the movie flashes back to his pre-Superman days.

If the story is good people wont care to wait 20 minutes and the whole point is to get people to care about clark if they want to make this successful. If you don't care about him then the action wont matter.

hopefuldreamer
10-07-2010, 04:10 PM
this does show Hamm would look great in a Superman suit


hmmm I guess I can accept that Hamm looks good in a Superman suit, i mean he's an attractive man... I don't think he looks like Superman in a Superman suit though...

Keyser Soze
10-07-2010, 04:13 PM
Jon Hamm is undoubtedly the best actor being mentioned as a possible contender for the Superman role. However, I must admit that his age is probably going to rule him out. I'd certainly be happy if he ended up being cast, I just don't think it's likely.

superadam87
10-07-2010, 04:26 PM
My pick for Superman is:
[QUOTE=MAN O STEEL;18390479]For anyone who wants to take the manip & make your own out of it. :yay:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/228/s9dvdartworkdarknitepro.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/s9dvdartworkdarknitepro.jpg/)

Wow. I can't wait to see him in the Superman suit on Smallville. I would love to see him play Superman in the new movie. Amazing. Too bad it won't happen. They really don't want to mess up the continuity of Smallville.

hopefuldreamer
10-07-2010, 04:26 PM
Jon Hamm is undoubtedly the best actor being mentioned as a possible contender for the Superman role. However, I must admit that his age is probably going to rule him out. I'd certainly be happy if he ended up being cast, I just don't think it's likely.

The only reason that a lot more incredibly talented actors are not being suggested, is because there simply aren't any in the right age range that have a look many people consider to be right for Superman...

I think what we are going to find, is that someone who is initially a big surprise will be cast, and then as they reveal more and more images of them in the role, we will start to see what the director saw.

We are never going to be able to tell who'd be great based on images, and clips of people in their current roles.

I honestly don't think there has been a single suggestion on this board that has been perfect or unanimous, and i've kind of figured out that I need to stop working myself into a place where i actually have a set actor and 'look' in mind.

Wait till he's cast, and then shift your perception to work with whoever it may be... or 99% of us are going to enjoy the film less than we should with an open mind.

SuperMike335!!
10-07-2010, 04:36 PM
We are never going to be able to tell who'd be great based on images, and clips of people in their current roles.


Exactly.

The very most, and its still a huge "IF" anyone at WB is paying us a dime of attention, we would hope for an actor to get is a screen test.

That would also only be if they actually wanted the role.

Maybe they would give someone a screen test, who otherwise would not have been given a shot.

As after it will still come down to what Snyder is looking for.

The guy does have a history, at least in my opinion, of both casting actors who LOOK like the comic book characters, and CAN act in the role given.

Regardless of what anyone thought of the Watchmen as a movie, with slow-mo used and all, he did cast actors who looked right, and I saw no scenes that made me think bad acting.

So Snyder CAN cast.

Keyser Soze
10-07-2010, 04:51 PM
The only reason that a lot more incredibly talented actors are not being suggested, is because there simply aren't any in the right age range that have a look many people consider to be right for Superman...

I think what we are going to find, is that someone who is initially a big surprise will be cast, and then as they reveal more and more images of them in the role, we will start to see what the director saw.

We are never going to be able to tell who'd be great based on images, and clips of people in their current roles.

I honestly don't think there has been a single suggestion on this board that has been perfect or unanimous, and i've kind of figured out that I need to stop working myself into a place where i actually have a set actor and 'look' in mind.

Wait till he's cast, and then shift your perception to work with whoever it may be... or 99% of us are going to enjoy the film less than we should with an open mind.

Good post. I've learned that it's best never to be married to the thought of a single actor for a role, as the odds of that one actor you want getting the part are incredibly slim.

I've seen too many people flip out and trash an actor who's been cast as a hero or villain because he's not the one guy they always dreamed of getting for the part - remember the guy who started the petition on here to have Heath Ledger removed from The Dark Knight and replaced by Crispin Glover because the part was "his"? Best to keep an open mind, and accept that the odds are that it's going to be somebody you never considered that is cast in the role.

hopefuldreamer
10-07-2010, 05:07 PM
Good post. I've learned that it's best never to be married to the thought of a single actor for a role, as the odds of that one actor you want getting the part are incredibly slim.

I've seen too many people flip out and trash an actor who's been cast as a hero or villain because he's not the one guy they always dreamed of getting for the part - remember the guy who started the petition on here to have Heath Ledger removed from The Dark Knight and replaced by Crispin Glover because the part was "his"? Best to keep an open mind, and accept that the odds are that it's going to be somebody you never considered that is cast in the role.

Yeah the whole thing was a ridiculous time. I mean, no one knew it was going to turn out so good, but a lot of people refused to accept it was even possible.

The biggest problem that i'm having personally on this forum is not getting too attached to an actor for the role.

It's beginning to DESPISE certain actors for the role. The more people bang on and on about how perfect Hamm is, for example, the more and more the idea makes me sick! Which is backwards... is was open to it when someone first mentioned it.

If he'd never been suggested by fans, i'd probably have been okay with them casting him. But now I will have quite a serious problem with it, that I can't seem to shake.

SuperMike335!!
10-07-2010, 05:48 PM
^^^^

Agreed again.

We should not hate an actor, and expecially not say things like "bad actor", just because they may not be our personal favorite for the role.

Heck, I could hate everyone that is not a perfect Clint Walker clone, but then I'd never be able to enjoy a Superman movie ever.

Dark Raven
10-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Night Raven http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19019088#post19019088)
We are never going to be able to tell who'd be great based on images, and clips of people in their current roles..

Hey, I never said that.

rdh007
10-07-2010, 05:57 PM
Hamm looks too old. It really is just that simple.

TheWatcher
10-07-2010, 06:34 PM
^Agreed.
Better choices IMO....
-Alexander Skarsgard
-Joe Manganiello
-Armie Hammer
-Hugh Jackman

batlovescatDC
10-07-2010, 06:39 PM
I would actually really like it if Jon Hamm was cast as Jor-El or Lex. I think he would pull off either of those roles very well. But if he gets cast as Superman, I'm going to be extremely dissapointed. I just can't buy into him as Superman or Clark Kent. Please God don't let this happen.

B
10-07-2010, 06:47 PM
^Agreed.
Better choices IMO....
-Alexander Skarsgard
-Joe Manganiello
-Armie Hammer
-Hugh Jackman

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8421/1245227615colinfarrel.gif

Sentinel X
10-07-2010, 07:06 PM
yuck at the Jon Hamm suggestion. He is so wrong for superman. The whole point of a reboot is to make superman cool again. Nothing against Jon Hamm but he looks kind of old and I don't know if I'd call a man who looks like he is pushing 50 in a superman costume "cool".

Project862006
10-07-2010, 07:23 PM
yuck at the Jon Hamm suggestion. He is so wrong for superman. The whole point of a reboot is to make superman cool again. Nothing against Jon Hamm but he looks kind of old and I don't know if I'd call a man who looks like he is pushing 50 in a superman costume "cool".
looks pretty cool to me:awesome:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1069133/jon-hamm-o.gif

TheWatcher
10-07-2010, 07:31 PM
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8421/1245227615colinfarrel.gif
While that GIF makes me laugh every time I see it,I have to disagree. Jackman fits the bill WAY better than Hamm IMO.

Sawyer
10-07-2010, 08:41 PM
Patrick Wilson.

djkris
10-07-2010, 08:41 PM
Let's think out of the box for a minute.

- Think about an actor that NONE discussed in this board...
- Nolan likes to work with certain actors...
- Nolan revived Batman successfully...

Let's face it: There is only ONE actor that can play Superman in a Nolan production.

http://www.screenhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/christian-bale-3.png


:lmao:JK of course :lmao:

Jake Cassidy
10-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Patrick Wilson.

as Lex :yay:

Sawyer
10-07-2010, 08:52 PM
I dont know. I have a feeling about him as Superman.

Sub-Zero
10-07-2010, 08:56 PM
wilson IS barry allen. and this is what i see when i picture hamm as superman.
not my manip btw:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3932/jonhammsuperman.jpg

Sawyer
10-07-2010, 08:59 PM
Perhaps. Time will tell.

Octoberist
10-07-2010, 09:00 PM
I don't want Wilson to be Barry Allen. I like him but I don't feel him.

Sub-Zero
10-07-2010, 09:06 PM
we're still a while away from flash casting. i just hope hamm isn't superman. he'll need his super depends changed after the first movie. he looks like he's 45, not 39.

Sawyer
10-07-2010, 09:07 PM
Jon Hamm is Rick Flag in an eventual Suicide Squad movie as far as I'm concerned. :o

Octoberist
10-07-2010, 09:08 PM
Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt look younger than him and they're older.

BUT Hamm's a fine actor in his own right. I think he could be a great Superman but it depends on the direction of the story. IF it's about Superman trying to figure out his role in the world, you need someone younger obviously.

C. Lee
10-07-2010, 09:20 PM
And once again I post this http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337724


I SUGGEST EVERYONE READ IT

bizbaz20
10-07-2010, 09:20 PM
Craig Horner

http://shirtlesshotmen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/craig_horner_shirtless_4.jpg

I know, great body right?

KalMart
10-07-2010, 09:21 PM
Craig Horner

http://shirtlesshotmen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/craig_horner_shirtless_4.jpg

I know, great body right?

For Robin, yeah I guess....

SrsBsns
10-07-2010, 09:23 PM
Everyone has their mind made up between, like, 5 different actors. When Supes is cast and it's no one we ever expected, this board is gonna go up in flames. I can't wait.

Sub-Zero
10-07-2010, 09:26 PM
who could we not expect? i think we've all mentioned every white actor over 6 feet who has medium to dark hair. unless they go with british or australian unknowns it's somewhat of a stretch. imo

they could just go with jake gyllenhaal. he was 2nd in the batman race, and maybe they kept an eye on him. he looks pretty alien, so it's not too far-fetched.

KalMart
10-07-2010, 09:26 PM
It'll be Ashton Kutcher.


Mark my words.

Sawyer
10-07-2010, 09:27 PM
Bite your tongue. :o

Matt Mortem
10-07-2010, 09:29 PM
It'll be Ashton Kutcher.


Mark my words.

:barf:
Clearly Jason Schwartzmann is the way to go :oldrazz:

al35077
10-07-2010, 09:29 PM
I know who I want cast but I'm not allowed to mention his name here....

KalMart
10-07-2010, 09:39 PM
It'll be Michael Fassbender.


Mark my words.

Sub-Zero
10-07-2010, 09:40 PM
magneto and superman? stranger things have happened.