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Ring Deacon
11-17-2010, 05:36 AM
The trailer was great. I am now even more pumped for this movie. I have been waiting a long time for GL movie. DC may have their new tent pole series.
hatebox
11-17-2010, 05:39 AM
The next trailer has to establish a coherent threat, like TDK and SM2's did. Why does he have to become GL? What are GLs? Who are those bad guys in space? It is absolutely crucial the upcoming promos express the conflict of the story.
Antonello Blueberry
11-17-2010, 05:46 AM
its not like WB decided last week that HP will nto be in 3D realesed. they knew for some time.
No, they announced it a month ago and I think they were already working on the conversion of this trailer, which I still hope will be released in theaters in 3D. Not because I'm a fan of 3D conversions, I'm just curious to see how it's being done.
Brian Braddock
11-17-2010, 06:17 AM
The trailer looks fantastic. On top of everything else, the movie looks like its going to be......fun.
EliteF50
11-17-2010, 07:04 AM
I think it looks very good, and I was really worried after that ET sneak peak. But Blake Lively really isn't a good actress...
Longshot777
11-17-2010, 07:32 AM
I'm not feeling it.
Instead of continuing the GREAT MANTLE of DC like Superman 1977, Batman 1989 and Nolan's Batman Universe....this fell short.
Instead of challenging Marvel's A-list...Spiderman 1 and 2....and Ironman and Xmen and X2.....
....this new GL film is on the same LEVEL as movies like Fantastic Four, Incredible Hulk, and Wolverine...which are fun and NOT bad...but NOT Great films.
I hope i'm wrong :csad:
Nice trailer...the design of the suit is very faithful.....wait and see re. the use of CGI to realize it............. seems like a nice basic story of Hal's ascension to the corps.......FX are gonna be crucial.
Poor trailer! Terrible editing, a lot of not-so-perfect CGI with 'Watchmen' colors but these scenes are the more interesting ones. All those int. scenes with Hal and other characters look extremely cheap. Lights, clothes, decorations... It feels like something from Fantastic Four area. I liked the first draft of the script but at this moment it doesn't look like this movie is on the best possible way. Sorry. 7/10
P.S. Blake Liely is absolutely fine.
Milkman95
11-17-2010, 07:48 AM
I'm not feeling it.
Instead of continuing the GREAT MANTLE of DC like Superman 1977, Batman 1989 and Nolan's Batman Universe....this fell short.
Instead of challenging Marvel's A-list...Spiderman 1 and 2....and Ironman and Xmen and X2.....
....this new GL film is on the same LEVEL as movies like Fantastic Four, Incredible Hulk, and Wolverine...which are fun and NOT bad...but NOT Great films.
I hope i'm wrong :csad:
Thankfully, you are wrong - FF and MOST of the Marvel films are cheesy junk, DC is above most of those films, and always will be. The success rate at Marvel is about 25%, and thanks to them, they've over-saturated the industry and released mostly trash - this looks more classy and epic.
Great work DC!
Ipodman
11-17-2010, 07:49 AM
Good trailer... that gag at the end didnt really fit, but overall good.
And he saved that boy like Iron Man did in Iron Man 2
I am Batman
11-17-2010, 08:05 AM
Not really feeling it from the trailer and I'm a big Green Lantern fan.
Not really feeling it from the trailer and I'm a big Green Lantern fan.
That's strange; seeing Kilowog, Tomar-re, Sinestro and Oa in live action did nothing for you?
chapin
11-17-2010, 08:19 AM
I liked the trailer. I'm sold but not in a way I thought I would be..
Ill go see it for sure
Ipodman
11-17-2010, 08:22 AM
That's strange; seeing Kilowog, Tomar-re, Sinestro and Oa in live action did nothing for you?
Not really live action because they're CGI.
But I liked the trailer. It's epic enough, altho I could do without the screwball comedy portions
Milkman95
11-17-2010, 08:29 AM
That's strange; seeing Kilowog, Tomar-re, Sinestro and Oa in live action did nothing for you?
Exactly - it looks epic, and thankfully the full trailer comes across a heck of a lot better than the ET spot did.
JamalYIgle
11-17-2010, 08:29 AM
Not really live action because they're CGI.
But I liked the trailer. It's epic enough, altho I could do without the screwball comedy portions
I think people need to reassess the terms "campy" and "screwball comedy". Xanadu is campy. The Cannonball run is a screwball comedy. There's some funny dialogue in the trailer but it's far from a comedy.
WarBlade
11-17-2010, 08:30 AM
Again, does anyone know which 3D movie this thing's going to be shown with?
It's too early to tell. I could place a bet though... Sucker Punch.
From all I know, itīs supposed to be with Harry Potter.
Yogi Bear is supplied with Harry Potter.
Shawn Wayne
11-17-2010, 08:32 AM
Ok, I can admit when I might be wrong. I was trashing on the 30 second clip cause I hated the goofy tone of RR's jokes but after watching the trailer I realize I still hate the goofy tone of said jokes but am now hopeful that it won't totally suck. The shots of GL doing his thing looked kinda badass. Got my fingers crossed....
Daybreak_st
11-17-2010, 08:36 AM
Poor trailer! Terrible editing, a lot of not-so-perfect CGI with 'Watchmen' colors but these scenes are the more interesting ones. All those int. scenes with Hal and other characters look extremely cheap. Lights, clothes, decorations... It feels like something from Fantastic Four area. I liked the first draft of the script but at this moment it doesn't look like this movie is on the best possible way. Sorry. 7/10
P.S. Blake Liely is absolutely fine.
While i have my hopes for this film to turn out the trailer was a little underwhelming. Effects wise it had more in common with GI Joe than Iron Man or STar Trek or Star Wars. I'm wondering if it's a case of
WB - "we need to release some footage soon"
Martin Cambell - "but we just started post production, the scenes haven't been polished"
WB - "people will love it no matter what, he's a Super-Hero"
WB releases footage on Entertainment Tonight.
7 is about right. It wasn't bad, it wasn't awesome, it was ok.
The Batman
11-17-2010, 09:00 AM
The Iron Man comments are becoming more and more like cheap criticism fans just want to throw around to look smart.
Especially since Iron Man ripped off Batman Begins and how Batman Begins and every comic book movie today has been ripping off Superman: The Movie.
And did I read a post where someone actually criticized them for being faithful to the comics by having pieface as hal's best friend and confident?
Maybe you guys need to go read some GL comics before making they type of comments you do.
batlovescatDC
11-17-2010, 09:05 AM
^ Thank You! Completely agreed.
sdc10
11-17-2010, 09:20 AM
Was it just me or did it look like the Star Sapphire symbol was on the side of Carol's helmet while she was in the plane?
Was it just me or did it look like the Star Sapphire symbol was on the side of Carol's helmet while she was in the plane?
I've read that on other message boards, I'll have to look at the trailer again and see.
Much, much better than the footage released earlier in the week. The suit itself looks much, much better in HD.. the mask itself looks alittle bizzare but its a minor problem as I think the suit itself looks much better than it could have possibly looked had they went with a pair of tights. This look, looks much more alien.. and thats a good thing especally in regards to this character.
Also the fact that they didn't squeeze 3 minutes of Ryan Reynolds humor into the trailer made it much better to watch, looked like a more serious.. er. I like Reynold's humor & his comedy films, but I'd rather not see this film become a 2 hour comedy film. Comedy in doses will be great. :up:
Green Ghost
11-17-2010, 09:33 AM
Was it just me or did it look like the Star Sapphire symbol was on the side of Carol's helmet while she was in the plane?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1423/carolstar.jpg
Longshot777
11-17-2010, 09:48 AM
The Iron Man comments are becoming more and more like cheap criticism fans just want to throw around to look smart.
Especially since Iron Man ripped off Batman Begins and how Batman Begins and every comic book movie today has been ripping off Superman: The Movie.
I can see Iron Man ripping of Batman Begins but I don't see any similarities in Batman Begins with Superman 1977.
I can see Spiderman ripping off Superman: The Movie
Cagefighterkip
11-17-2010, 09:49 AM
downloadable links anybody?(480, 720, 1080)
Longshot777
11-17-2010, 09:59 AM
BTW
Who is that scientist guy who looks like "The LEADER"????
Kryptonian Warrior
11-17-2010, 10:09 AM
It's too early to tell. I could place a bet though... Sucker Punch.
Yogi Bear is supplied with Harry Potter.
They do show more than one trailer before a movie starts, ya know. :cwink: Besides, I thought that I read somewhere that this trailer was supposed to be shown before HP?
Edit: I found multiple places where it was said that this trailer is before HP....
http://www.slashfilm.com/green-lantern-trailer-attached-to-harry-potter/
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEgYNPKhFUY9kp
http://www.collider.com/2010/10/08/green-lantern-trailer-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-i/
http://ramascreen.com/green-lantern-trailer-arrives-november-attached-to-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1/
I could post more links, but you get the idea.
Optimus_Prime_
11-17-2010, 10:10 AM
BTW
Who is that scientist guy who looks like "The LEADER"????
Hector Hammond.
dario2739
11-17-2010, 10:12 AM
BTW
Who is that scientist guy who looks like "The LEADER"????
As has been said it's Hector Hammond, who was created before the Leader, so the he looks like Hammond not the other way around :cwink:
Kryptonian Warrior
11-17-2010, 10:14 AM
downloadable links anybody?(480, 720, 1080)
Go here.....http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/ :woot:
Optimus_Prime_
11-17-2010, 10:16 AM
The Iron Man comments are becoming more and more like cheap criticism fans just want to throw around to look smart.
Especially since Iron Man ripped off Batman Begins and how Batman Begins and every comic book movie today has been ripping off Superman: The Movie.
And did I read a post where someone actually criticized them for being faithful to the comics by having pieface as hal's best friend and confident?
Maybe you guys need to go read some GL comics before making they type of comments you do.
This is bullsh**. Or maybe you're being ironic, but Iron Man didn't rip off Batman Begins anymore than Batman Begins ripped off DareDevil. Iron Man simply followed the pre-established origin, and really doesn't resemble Batman at all. Not the characters, not the story, and not the tone. They are completely different films, and most people just can't get past the "billionaire industrialist" comparison, which, by the by, is also completely different. Bruce Wayne is not trumpeted as a great inventory and engineer (despite the fact that he is in the comics), whereas Tony Stark completely wears that on his sleeve.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1423/carolstar.jpg
afternoon all,
1st post obviously :cwink:,
but that plane behind Carol doen't look like the jet Hal is flying in the trailer, could that be the experimental plane Hal flies?
amazingfantasy15
11-17-2010, 10:19 AM
Thankfully, you are wrong - FF and MOST of the Marvel films are cheesy junk, DC is above most of those films, and always will be. The success rate at Marvel is about 25%, and thanks to them, they've over-saturated the industry and released mostly trash - this looks more classy and epic.
Great work DC!
Really? Remember Superman 3 and 4, Steel, Catwoman, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Jonah Hex, Constantine? DC doesn't have a great track record, they've had 5 great movies Superman 1 and 2, Batman '89 and the two Nolan Batmans, everything else is either really bad, see above or mediocre at best.
There needs to be some MAJOR work done on the CGI for this movie, I like the tone, but Oa and all the Green Lanterns, Hal included, look like cartoons. I'm hopeful for the movie, but when the main characters are essentially effects, those effects need to be perfect and it's very, very far from that now. Right now they look worse than Ang Lee's Hulk.
The Sage
11-17-2010, 10:23 AM
This is bullsh**. Or maybe you're being ironic, but Iron Man didn't rip off Batman Begins anymore than Batman Begins ripped off DareDevil. Iron Man simply followed the pre-established origin, and really doesn't resemble Batman at all. Not the characters, not the story, and not the tone. They are completely different films, and most people just can't get past the "billionaire industrialist" comparison, which, by the by, is also completely different. Bruce Wayne is not trumpeted as a great inventory and engineer (despite the fact that he is in the comics), whereas Tony Stark completely wears that on his sleeve.
What about the old friend/mentor turning out to be the villain portion? That's the main element of Iron Man that reminded me of Batman Begins but it wasn't much.
JerseyJoker
11-17-2010, 10:54 AM
So cute how DC fanboys try to pretend like DC has actually made better films than Marvel, or have done better overall business.
amazingfantasy15
11-17-2010, 10:55 AM
What about the old friend/mentor turning out to be the villain portion? That's the main element of Iron Man that reminded me of Batman Begins but it wasn't much.
Obidiah wasn't Tony Stark's mentor, Tony built everything himself, Obidiah was more Earle than Ra's Al Ghul.
Timstuff
11-17-2010, 10:55 AM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1423/carolstar.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/Timstuff_photos/laughing_bones.gif
The Guard
11-17-2010, 10:55 AM
I sort of agree with you about the evolution of Hal,as for Hal not being funny I stand by how his delivery makes him seem funny. I guess that you would have liked it if the delivery wasn't only funny but the dialog as well. About the lack of depth,there is still hope that you can catch it in one of the different trailers down the road before the movie is out.
I think, had the lines actually been funny, I would be okay with it. It just seems forced right now.
The OA scenes in the script are amazing. I didn`t know what u expected Guard.
I didn't expect anything but what we've gotten.
I'm not really sure what you're referring to by responding that the Oa scenes in the script were amazing.
I agree with those who have said that there's not really a coherent narrative/threat established in the trailer. Hopefully the next trailer will focus more on those elements.
i dont get all the ryan is playing ryan arguments. Hal Jordan started off cocky and a ladies man. His character is known for marching head first into a situation and making a plan as he goes along. Thats who Hal is. He has matured in the current comics alot since he literally was put through hell and came out a stronger wiser leader. But thtis is not the Green Lantern from the "sinestro War" ot "Blackest Night" this is the very beginning of him having to overcome his fear and prove he deseves the ring.
There's more to Hal Jordan than being cocky and reckless.
This Hal just kind of seems "worried" a lot.
I can't put my finger on it...I just see Reynolds making Jordan more like him, and not the other way around.
Something's missing. Maybe something they haven't shows us.
Havok83
11-17-2010, 10:57 AM
Good trailer but the costume looks so much better without that ridiculous mask which brings the whole look down
TheFuture
11-17-2010, 10:59 AM
Good trailer, big step up from what EW showed. My only problem is the very end of it, it seems a bit off. When it comes to a film like this you want to end a trailer with a bang, not an awkward gag that falls flat.
Raiden
11-17-2010, 10:59 AM
This is bullsh**. Or maybe you're being ironic, but Iron Man didn't rip off Batman Begins anymore than Batman Begins ripped off DareDevil. Iron Man simply followed the pre-established origin, and really doesn't resemble Batman at all. Not the characters, not the story, and not the tone. They are completely different films, and most people just can't get past the "billionaire industrialist" comparison, which, by the by, is also completely different. Bruce Wayne is not trumpeted as a great inventory and engineer (despite the fact that he is in the comics), whereas Tony Stark completely wears that on his sleeve.
Yeah, I also found the allegation that Iron Man ripped off Batman Begins to be quite ridiculous and completely false. Aside from the fact that both Stark and Wayne are playboys (although Stark is for real while Wayne just used it as a cover), how are these two characters similar? Stark is an engineer and an inventor, but Wayne is not. The tone of the two movies are also very different, with Iron Man going for some sober storyline but also fun & excitement, and Batman Begins had that signature Chris Nolan bleakness and realism. They are as different as night and day.
Btw, I like the official trailer of GL, but that last shot of Reynolds showing off his new suit to his friend (same with the ET teaser) is still unfinished and look too fake. Also, I wish they'd make the trailer feel more epic and less like an Iron Man trailer. :cwink:
rogue trooper
11-17-2010, 11:00 AM
I really don't get the negative comments regarding the mask.:huh:
Raiden
11-17-2010, 11:01 AM
Really? Remember Superman 3 and 4, Steel, Catwoman, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Jonah Hex, Constantine? DC doesn't have a great track record, they've had 5 great movies Superman 1 and 2, Batman '89 and the two Nolan Batmans, everything else is either really bad, see above or mediocre at best.
There needs to be some MAJOR work done on the CGI for this movie, I like the tone, but Oa and all the Green Lanterns, Hal included, look like cartoons. I'm hopeful for the movie, but when the main characters are essentially effects, those effects need to be perfect and it's very, very far from that now. Right now they look worse than Ang Lee's Hulk.
You left out Supergirl. :word:
Philly Phanboy
11-17-2010, 11:02 AM
The trailer was a bit too busy in my opinion and the music was 80's hair band level cheesy.
Shawn Wayne
11-17-2010, 11:02 AM
If they had left out the corny joke stuff, that would have been a kickass trailer
jrd550
11-17-2010, 11:05 AM
Blake Lively as a pilot? Who casts these films?
baerrtt
11-17-2010, 11:06 AM
You left out Supergirl. :word:
And Swamp Thing.. and The Return of Swamp Thing:woot:.
Raiden
11-17-2010, 11:15 AM
And Swamp Thing.. and The Return of Swamp Thing:woot:.
I should throw Batman Returns in there too...both Danny DeVito and Christopher Wilkens really ham it up in BR, although Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman was very memorable.
hatebox
11-17-2010, 11:21 AM
This trailer is getting torn to pieces on non superhero film websites. Release a much better one in 2-3 months, WB.
Darknightnomis
11-17-2010, 11:21 AM
I gave the trailer a 10 for the Sinestro shot alone!!!!! :wow:
I've been reading GL for over 35 years since the days of Denny O Neil and Neal adams up till Blackest night and I got to say I almost went in geek overload after seeing this trailer! Particulary those shots of Oa!
And I was one of the ones who didn't want Ryan Renolds as GL but now I can see that he will be great fit!
The only thing that could make this movie better is a cameo from Oliver Queen! :woot:
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 11:32 AM
This trailer is getting torn to pieces on non superhero film websites. Release a much better one in 2-3 months, WB.
What non superhero film websites are the ones that you're talking about? What are the complaints? I don't feel like going around fishing for them.
CrazyDavey
11-17-2010, 11:38 AM
The only thing that could make this movie better is a cameo from Oliver Queen! :woot:
Played by Justin Hartley? He already plays a pretty cool Green Arrow on Smallville!
rogue trooper
11-17-2010, 11:43 AM
Meh it's easy to dissect and complain about trailers,any. What non superhero
film websites are the ones that you're talking about? What are the complaints? I don't feel like going around fishing for them,and these kinds of
sites that you speak of don't exactly reflect the general audience.
Well, non-superhero site ain'titcoolnews says the trailer "looks great". http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47479
Daybreak_st
11-17-2010, 11:59 AM
Ok i finally saw the trailer in HD and withdraw most of my complaints, it does look infinitley better than i thought from seeing lower quality footage, especially that finally shot of him suiting up in front of his buddy. Looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than i thought :yay:
misjuevos
11-17-2010, 11:59 AM
if anyone makes a cameo i would want the flash to do it. remember i said IF.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 12:00 PM
Well, non-superhero site ain'titcoolnews says the trailer "looks great". http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47479
I know.
misjuevos
11-17-2010, 12:02 PM
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/glsinestro.png
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/gltomar-re.pnghttp://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/gltomar-re2.pnghttp://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/gltomar-re3.png
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/glkilowog.png
Milkman95
11-17-2010, 12:25 PM
Really? Remember Superman 3 and 4, Steel, Catwoman, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Jonah Hex, Constantine? DC doesn't have a great track record, they've had 5 great movies Superman 1 and 2, Batman '89 and the two Nolan Batmans, everything else is either really bad, see above or mediocre at best.
There needs to be some MAJOR work done on the CGI for this movie, I like the tone, but Oa and all the Green Lanterns, Hal included, look like cartoons. I'm hopeful for the movie, but when the main characters are essentially effects, those effects need to be perfect and it's very, very far from that now. Right now they look worse than Ang Lee's Hulk.
Yes, really. FF, FF2, Elektra, DD, both Punisher films, X3, X-Men Origins Wolverine, Spidey 3, Blade III, Ang Lee Hulk, & Ghost Rider. Since you're going back to the 80's and 90's, so will I - Corman FF, Captain America, and Lundgren Punisher just to name a few.
I'll agree with Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Batman & Robin. Batman Forever was the #1 Film that year, and Constantine is better than what's listed above.
Looking forward to seeing more footage.....my only complaint is the usual Ryan Reynolds comedic crap, I'm sure the CGI will be fine when the film is released.
I Am The Knight
11-17-2010, 12:36 PM
AICN is a great place to kick back and be demented, but don't go to the talkbacks if you want objectivity, or hell, sanity. That said (heh) I looooove me some AICN.
antsman41
11-17-2010, 12:36 PM
I don't know GL much but after looking at IMDB and Wiki I can't find out who the heck is Hal's friend in the apartment and the Jeep Wrangler, who is that?
Thanks
I Am The Knight
11-17-2010, 12:37 PM
^^Tom Kalmaku. "Pieface".
The Guard
11-17-2010, 12:38 PM
You know, blown up, Oa looks like a smalltown Coruscant.
Boo.
antsman41
11-17-2010, 12:46 PM
^^Tom Kalmaku. "Pieface".
Thanks, why is he not being played by an asian actor?
I Am The Knight
11-17-2010, 12:52 PM
Thanks, why is he not being played by an asian actor?
I don't recall what his ethnicity is in the script, to be honest, so maybe they are playing around with that.
dark_b
11-17-2010, 12:55 PM
i think i know now what i dont like about the mask. the part around the nose. it should be full over the nose or above the nose. now its 50/50.
the green is growing on me. i still think that for more realism they should light up Reynolds chin. since the suit is glowing a green light should be on hes chin and neck.
The Guard
11-17-2010, 12:55 PM
He was originally an Inuit. An eskimo. Hope he still is.
The actor, Taiki Waititi, is Maori, from New Zealand.
obin_gam
11-17-2010, 01:05 PM
Ok i finally saw the trailer in HD and withdraw most of my complaints, it does look infinitley better than i thought from seeing lower quality footage, especially that finally shot of him suiting up in front of his buddy. Looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than i thought :yay:
Exactly what I was gonna say :D in the 720 and 1080 versions I also noticed in the apartment shot at the end where he's laughing -> they've actually animated each seperate ab and muscle so they move in conjunction with his laughteras real muscles would haha ^_^
Stringer
11-17-2010, 01:08 PM
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx239/thekraxen/glsinestro.png
I imagine this is what the effects will look like when the movie is released. This shot is greatness.
amazingfantasy15
11-17-2010, 01:10 PM
Yes, really. FF, FF2, Elektra, DD, both Punisher films, X3, X-Men Origins Wolverine, Spidey 3, Blade III, Ang Lee Hulk, & Ghost Rider. Since you're going back to the 80's and 90's, so will I - Corman FF, Captain America, and Lundgren Punisher just to name a few.
I'll agree with Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Batman & Robin. Batman Forever was the #1 Film that year, and Constantine is better than what's listed above.
Looking forward to seeing more footage.....my only complaint is the usual Ryan Reynolds comedic crap, I'm sure the CGI will be fine when the film is released.
What does that mean? Avatar is the #1 movie of all time, but it's far from the best movie. Box Office means jack, but if we go by box office X3, Wolverine and Spidey 3 are great, they all made a boat load of cash.
Venom 1988
11-17-2010, 01:51 PM
Was I the only one who paused the trailer to see if Hector Hammond's yellow eyes had the Sinestro Corp symbol in them? They've done this a few times in the comics, so I figured they might here lol. :hyper:
Dark_Lord
11-17-2010, 01:51 PM
I imagine this is what the effects will look like when the movie is released. This shot is greatness.
Agreed. This shot is excellent.
FCEEVIPER
11-17-2010, 01:56 PM
A weak 7
The CGI didn't look as good as I thought it would.
Dark_Lord
11-17-2010, 02:14 PM
A weak 7
The CGI didn't look as good as I thought it would.
I wouldn't worry about the CG so much since they still have 7 months until release.
So I figured out what it is about the trailer that bugged me and why it might not be going over so well with the masses, there's no imagery of what the ring can actually do say one quick scene in the ally fight. Where's the shots of GL using the ring in action, there's a lot of pointing the ring, and a lot of flying with it, but if I'm joe average I'm not exactly seeing what the ring can do and what it's meant to do - does it give him super strength? does it shoot lasers? what does this all powerful ring due exactly? I don't think the trailer answers that question very well, it comes across as assuming you know what GL is about and that to me is why I think reaction to this has been a bit negative, the 'wow' factor missing is seeing the ring in action. Could be a case of holding back on that stuff for the film, could be the FX aren't ready, or it could have just been overlooked altogether.
Daybreak_st
11-17-2010, 02:31 PM
Was I the only one who paused the trailer to see if Hector Hammond's yellow eyes had the Sinestro Corp symbol in them? They've done this a few times in the comics, so I figured they might here lol. :hyper:
Nope i paused it too :woot:
FCEEVIPER
11-17-2010, 02:33 PM
I wouldn't worry about the CG so much since they still have 7 months until release.
Is this movie being made in 3D, or is it being converted to 3D?
If it is.... :down
craigdbfan
11-17-2010, 02:34 PM
Converted I think.
FCEEVIPER
11-17-2010, 02:35 PM
Converted I think.
really? :cmad:
Dark_Lord
11-17-2010, 02:36 PM
Is this movie being made in 3D, or is it being converted to 3D?
If it is.... :down
Converted, but they have a lot more time than they did with Clash of the Titans and the fact that they cancelled the 3D conversion for part 1 of Harry Potter 7 shows that they've heard the complaints. Hopefully they'll do a good job. If not, then we can still see the 2D version.
Chris B
11-17-2010, 02:37 PM
The trailer was awesome. I think we're in for something special next June.
FCEEVIPER
11-17-2010, 02:39 PM
Converted, but they have a lot more time than they did with Clash of the Titans and the fact that they cancelled the 3D conversion for part 1 of Harry Potter 7 shows that they've heard the complaints. Hopefully they'll do a good job. If not, then we can still see the 2D version.
I think will catch this in a 2D theater then.
Hopefully 2D IMAX.
craigdbfan
11-17-2010, 02:43 PM
I think will catch this is a 2D theater then.
Hopefully 2D IMAX.
As will I.
Dark_Lord
11-17-2010, 02:46 PM
I'll wait for the reviews. If they say the 3D is good, then I'll watch it in 3D.
DIRECTOR
11-17-2010, 02:47 PM
what is up with Blake Lively's voice...... is that how her voice is .... deep???
Mr. Credible
11-17-2010, 02:47 PM
Abin Sur looks like the movie version of Spawn
Mr. Credible
11-17-2010, 02:48 PM
Abin Sur looks like the movie version of Spawn
Mr. Credible
11-17-2010, 02:51 PM
and sorry, I don't care how comic accurate Sinestro's look is, that hair, eyebrows and (especially) mustache look ridiculous. there's a goo reason some movies stray from source material that was created 50-something years ago.
dark_b
11-17-2010, 02:52 PM
Abin Sur lokos fantastic IMO.
do you think they used a new material for prosthetic skin' it looked to real like real urple skin.
Joe Von Zombie
11-17-2010, 02:54 PM
Gonna be a good movie overall, gonna be a bad adaptation of the Hal Jordan character though.
craigdbfan
11-17-2010, 03:01 PM
Abin Sur looks like the movie version of Spawn
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c45/ivanooze38/ivan_ooze.jpg + http://www.filmfetish.com/wp-stuff/fetish_uploads/2009/08/spawn.jpg + http://julianhopkins.net/uploads/pics_0903/jh_pic_091011_DragonballPiccolo.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x139/musicspider911/Picture14-1.png
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Kryptonian Warrior
11-17-2010, 03:21 PM
Converted, but they have a lot more time than they did with Clash of the Titans and the fact that they cancelled the 3D conversion for part 1 of Harry Potter 7 shows that they've heard the complaints. Hopefully they'll do a good job. If not, then we can still see the 2D version.
Like I've always said, if given the proper amount of time, a post-conversion can actually look pretty good. Alice in Wonderland was a good example of that, IMO. Clash absolutely SUCKED in 3D, but they were only given a couple of months to convert, I think. However, the best scenario would be to actually film in 3D. That's why I am interested to see how Transformers is going to look. Apparently they are using a new type of 3D camera. I personally think that the technology behind 3D is just going to get better as time goes by.
batboy99
11-17-2010, 03:28 PM
So awesome! Im all giddy now. Cant wait till the movie.
BH/HHH
11-17-2010, 03:32 PM
This looks awesome, I'm not in the camp that thinks Ryan Reynolds is wrong for this. Hal Jordan is very funny in the comics and I think Ryan will do a fantastic job. The film looked epic and the suit looked alot better than from what we saw a few days ago. Next summer can't come soon enough.
Two nitpicks from the trailer, there's alot of CGI but that is to be expected and Blake Lively's acting in the trailer seems a little off to me but it is just a trailer so she might be fine in the film.
DACrowe
11-17-2010, 03:33 PM
I know I'm slow, but I just saw the trailer (I didn't even realize they'd do a full one this soon)....all I can say is, hmph. It doesn't look terrible. But it looks like a really, really goofy comedy-action movie. For a space film it looks shockingly formulaic. I see the narrative will follow the same arc of Spider-Man 1 from the trailer that so many have copied since. And the tone of the trailer says to me, "But we will have the comedic timing of Iron Man!" It felt too much like other superhero movies with Renyolds as their Downey in a Raimi-esque film.
Time will tell if it can stand on its own, but I wasn't blown away. I like Campbell, I like the actors--except for the idea of Blake Lively as a fighter pilot, which is HILARIOUS!--but I think I will have to wait for the reviews.
The Riddler
11-17-2010, 03:35 PM
rated a 6 because with better music, editing, and sequencing, the trailer could have been a lot better.
looking forward to the next trailer and the movie, though.
The Riddler
11-17-2010, 03:35 PM
rated a 6 because with better music, editing, and sequencing, the trailer could have been a lot better.
looking forward to the next trailer and the movie, though.
Donut
11-17-2010, 03:45 PM
The next trailer must have the In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night line in full
Deaths Head II
11-17-2010, 04:02 PM
I rated it an 8. It didn't hit all the right notes, but I'm still looking forward to this film a lot more.
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 04:13 PM
I rated it an 8. It didn't hit all the right notes, but I'm still looking forward to this film a lot more.
I agree with this. It was good, but not great. Actually, I think they're holding off some of the cooler stuff for the movie itself, which is a novel approach in this day and age. I hate seeing every cool aspect months in advance in a trailer, but hopefully, the film will deliver
Antonello Blueberry
11-17-2010, 04:22 PM
I agree with this. It was good, but not great. Actually, I think they're holding off some of the cooler stuff for the movie itself, which is a novel approach in this day and age. I hate seeing every cool aspect months in advance in a trailer, but hopefully, the film will deliver
Well, this is just a teaser. Most of the cool stuff like 100 Lanterns fighting Parallax in space is probably still being animated. But there'll be like three more trailers and a dozens or so tv spot.
Sentinel X
11-17-2010, 04:31 PM
Sorry but this looks really bad to me. It looks....messy. Then again its only a teaser so its not a bid deal. I'm just not interested. But on the bright side cowboys & aliens is looking legit! Its funny how quickly my interest levels just swapped for these two films
Mr. Credible
11-17-2010, 04:39 PM
I know I'm slow, but I just saw the trailer (I didn't even realize they'd do a full one this soon)....all I can say is, hmph. It doesn't look terrible. But it looks like a really, really goofy comedy-action movie. For a space film it looks shockingly formulaic. I see the narrative will follow the same arc of Spider-Man 1 from the trailer that so many have copied since. And the tone of the trailer says to me, "But we will have the comedic timing of Iron Man!" It felt too much like other superhero movies with Renyolds as their Downey in a Raimi-esque film.
almost the exact same impression I get from the trailer.
WarBlade
11-17-2010, 04:42 PM
They do show more than one trailer before a movie starts, ya know. :cwink: Besides, I thought that I read somewhere that this trailer was supposed to be shown before HP?
Edit: I found multiple places where it was said that this trailer is before HP....
Yes, I'm aware that more than one trailer usually appears before a feature... Trailers are a small part of my job. It's just that because of my job I know that Yogi Bear is being supplied with the Harry Potter feature, and also that cinemas have not yet received this Green Lantern trailer, at least for the market down my way. On top of that the Green Lantern feature is so far away that I won't be assigning it to play on anything yet (unless a contractual obligation dictates the placement).
Thanks for the links though. At least I know there is more to this rumour than fan-made gossip now. :yay:
So, um, what happened to Iron Man and Spider-Man being good movies? Why is it bad that the trailer reminds you of them?
Would the trailer be bad if it reminded you of Batman Begins and Inception?
antsman41
11-17-2010, 04:50 PM
First, I've only ever loved Batman since I was born but never really have liked the rest of DC Universe and I really hate Marvel. I respect Donner's Superman, Smallville and Burton's Bat for what they brought to the table and what they are.
Second, this film really has me intrigued. The only downfall for me was Reynolds because he already is Deadpool but after this trailer I can see he will be pretty solid. This film has a Iron-Man/Spider-Man I vibe, for the origin/comedy aspect, which is good but it also is bringing the sci-fi aspect to the table, which looks very cool and awesome.
I am happy WB is finally building their movie world, even though they are not connected (which I think is the best way. If one fails, then they all drop like dominoes). I can greatly say I'll be at the theater at midnight even without any pre-knowledge of GL.
amazingfantasy15
11-17-2010, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't worry about the CG so much since they still have 7 months until release.
This is always something that really bugs me, putting unfinished shots in a trailer. This is the publics first look at the movie and you're putting in crappy CGI? That's stupid, if I see video game graphics in a trailer for a movie (which is what the Oa shots looked like) I'm not as interested. You've got a 2 minute 30 second trailer, make every effects shot in the trailer perfect. Yes they have 7 months to improve the effects, but why release a trailer 7 months in advance anyway, especially if the footage used isn't ready. Yes Harry Potter is the perfect movie to put the trailer in front of, it's WB's movie, fantasy, going to have a wide audience. However, the footage wasn't ready, take another month and put it in front of Tron or 2 and 1/2 months and put it in the first quarter of the Superbowl when the footage is perfect.
They finish specially chosen shots to a certain level for the trailer. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 05:01 PM
It didn't blow me away but I thought that it was a solid trailer. If they aren't careful I could see the movie sucking though because it looks really ridiculous.
Also Blake Lively's acting looks terrible.
DACrowe
11-17-2010, 05:10 PM
So, um, what happened to Iron Man and Spider-Man being good movies? Why is it bad that the trailer reminds you of them?
Would the trailer be bad if it reminded you of Batman Begins and Inception?
Both are very good movies. But I've seen both of them multiple times. And so have most people. If I'm going to buy two tickets for $20 ($24 for people who like 3D), or a family has to buy 3+ tickets....originality and uniqueness is important.
Besides GL is not Spidey or Tony Stark. He should be a galactic space opera...being "another superhero movie" at this point is not a good thing financially or critically, I think.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 05:15 PM
I see a problem with a film being bad but I don't have a problem with a movie being fun. I liked the trailer and think that it's too early to say that the film doesn't have any originality or space operaness. (I know thats not a word)
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 05:16 PM
This is always something that really bugs me, putting unfinished shots in a trailer. This is the publics first look at the movie and you're putting in crappy CGI? That's stupid, if I see video game graphics in a trailer for a movie (which is what the Oa shots looked like) I'm not as interested. You've got a 2 minute 30 second trailer, make every effects shot in the trailer perfect. Yes they have 7 months to improve the effects, but why release a trailer 7 months in advance anyway, especially if the footage used isn't ready. Yes Harry Potter is the perfect movie to put the trailer in front of, it's WB's movie, fantasy, going to have a wide audience. However, the footage wasn't ready, take another month and put it in front of Tron or 2 and 1/2 months and put it in the first quarter of the Superbowl when the footage is perfect.
See that's the thing, depending on the overall quality, shoddy effects don't hamper it as much. Everyone around here was critical of the Iron Man shot with the Tank for the Superbowl spot being unfinished, but the rest of the footage was so strong it didn't dampen most people's excitement, especially most of the general public, obviously.
If you know nothing about Green Lantern, and look at this trailer, I can see you getting excited for it, but I can also see you being indifferent or even dismissing it. There just didn't seem to be enough "money" shots, and given the relative scope of GL, I didn't get a sense for the scale I assume is there.
Like I said before, I commend them for not showing virtually the whole movie like most trailers do, but there's still more that could have been done. And regardless of what anyone says, a trailer over a minute long isn't what I would consider a teaser, this is a full theatrical trailer, and it could have been better...
Doctor Jones
11-17-2010, 05:18 PM
Agreed. Judging the footage is fine. But saying the entire movie looks formulaic is too early. We won't know that until we see the film. They always put that stuff in the trailer to make a point and for people to get it in a short amount of time. A trailer is quick and you only have so long to sell the idea to the audience.
GhostPoet
11-17-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm not seeing these bad CGI effects people are talking about? I thought they looked great.
Chewy
11-17-2010, 05:21 PM
See that's the thing, depending on the overall quality, shoddy effects don't hamper it as much. Everyone around here was critical of the Iron Man shot with the Tank for the Superbowl spot being unfinished, but the rest of the footage was so strong it didn't dampen most people's excitement, especially most of the general public, obviously.
That shot was not in the first trailer released, or the second trailer released. It was shown off in the Super Bowl shot, after the public already had been exposed to the film and initial impressions had been formed.
This is the movie's very first exposure to the general public, they need to put their best foot forward.
People don't know what a Green Lantern is. His name doesn't really describe his powers and seeing him in costume doesn't either. So this trailer focused entirely on describing what a Green Lantern is. So for a teaser we get less epic space opera and high sci-fi concepts, and more Reynolds being funny and exposition on being 'chosen'. This is why people are complaining about it looking 'formulaic', because the teaser is constructed that way so non-GL fans will get it.
Thundercrack85
11-17-2010, 05:25 PM
I'm pretty disappointed by the trailer. It's not a good sign when you see bad CGI, bad acting and bad jokes in a trailer, especially since trailers usually show you glimpses of the best dialogue and scenes in the movie. If this is any indication...
Well, hopefully it's just a bad trailer.
Blackman
11-17-2010, 05:26 PM
No I think peope including myself are saying that it looks formulaic because well it seems formulaic which basically every superhero origin film is (at the bare bones of it)
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 05:27 PM
That shot was not in the first trailer released, or the second trailer released. It was shown off in the Super Bowl shot, after the public already had been exposed to the film and initial impressions had been formed.
This is the movie's very first exposure to the general public, they need to put their best foot forward.
I'd be willing to bet my life most people in the general public saw their first glimpse of IM during the Superbowl, where the commercials are just as important as the game, and not attached to a movie.
That being said I do agree, for a first impression, it was lacking
No I think peope including myself are saying that it looks formulaic because well it seems formulaic which basically every superhero origin film is (at the bare bones of it)
This is basically my point from a different, more accusatory point of view.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 05:35 PM
I think there are legit worries about the trailer and no, it isn't the greatest trailer but as I said before only a couple of Superhero movie trailers have really impressed me anyhow.
As for the CGI, I thought that it looked okay. Sony Image Works isn't a great CGI company anyhow so it's the best that we can expect and I still think that it will look better in 6 or 7 months time.
Batman Begins looked like a formulaic Superhero orgin to me and the fanboys creamed themselves over that trailer.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 05:36 PM
I think there are legit worries about the trailer and no, it isn't the greatest trailer but as I said before only a couple of Superhero movie trailers have really impressed me anyhow.
What were those worries that were supposedly legit again?
Happy Jack
11-17-2010, 05:38 PM
Pretty cliched trailer, if you ask me. Regardless of what the finalized product will be, the trailer paints the film to be fairly formulaic, with the Michael Bay-esque cinematography and stock music (complete with over-the-top choir). I hope it's more than that, and there's no reason why it can't, but this wasn't a very promising trailer IMO.
The trailer is formulaic but then again this is a superhero origin movie. However I don't understand why people are focusing on that instead of the fact we are getting a very faithful Green Lantern movie. I mean, look at Sinestro, he's stepped right off the comic book page!
I had my worries with Iron Man that it would be a formulaic origin movie that doesn't make an impact, but look how that turned out. And to be honest, the film does have a formulaic story structure, but the way it was handled meant it didn't matter.
Green Lantern looks less formulaic simply due to the fact the source material is different from just about every other superhero movie so far. We have our first cosmic superhero. Why aren't we celebrating this?
Blackman
11-17-2010, 05:44 PM
People dont like the trailer it's not that big of a deal
Also the whole "At least you're getting a GL film" thing is stupid. I know alot of hardcore Transformers, GI Joe, and Avatar: TLA fans that wouldve rather not gotten a film at all then each film's adaptation
The Sage
11-17-2010, 05:46 PM
The trailer is formulaic but then again this is a superhero origin movie. However I don't understand why people are focusing on that instead of the fact we are getting a very faithful Green Lantern movie. I mean, look at Sinestro, he's stepped right off the comic book page!
I had my worries with Iron Man that it would be a formulaic origin movie that doesn't make an impact, but look how that turned out. And to be honest, the film does have a formulaic story structure, but the way it was handled meant it didn't matter.
Green Lantern looks less formulaic simply due to the fact the source material is different from just about every other superhero movie so far. We have our first cosmic superhero. Why aren't we celebrating this?
I think mostly everyone is pass the "Just be happy that we're getting a superhero movie about this person" phase and are in the "I'm glad this superhero is getting a movie, but it better be good" phase. I have too. While there are some things about the trailer I didn't like, I thought it was solid and a good first look.
People dont like the trailer it's not that big of a deal
I just don't understand why people focus on the bad rather than the good.
Blackman
11-17-2010, 05:47 PM
What if they didnt find good in it?
I dont understand why it seems so personal to some people that they don't like the GL trailer?
Also the whole "At least you're getting a GL film" thing is stupid. I know alot of hardcore Transformers, GI Joe, and Avatar: TLA fans that wouldve rather not gotten a film at all then each film's adaptation
That is not what I have been saying, I've been saying that we are getting a faithful Green Lantern film, and people are so hung up on supposedly bad effects and one poorly delivered line that they can't see all the good points.
Blackman
11-17-2010, 05:50 PM
You can't say how faithful it is when the film hasnt come out yet. SOme things definitely seem faithful such as many character designs, but the final product hasnt even come out yet
Happy Jack
11-17-2010, 05:51 PM
The trailer is formulaic but then again this is a superhero origin movie. However I don't understand why people are focusing on that instead of the fact we are getting a very faithful Green Lantern movie. I mean, look at Sinestro, he's stepped right off the comic book page!
Sinestro (or anything else for that matter) looking like he stepped off the comic panel is not of huge importance to me.
I had my worries with Iron Man that it would be a formulaic origin movie that doesn't make an impact, but look how that turned out. And to be honest, the film does have a formulaic story structure, but the way it was handled meant it didn't matter.
I remember not being ecstatic about the first Iron Man trailer, and that blew my expectations away completely. Crossing fingers it's the same for this, which ironically is pretty tonally close to Iron Man.
You can't say how faithful it is when the film hasnt come out yet
I was just basing it off the trailer. Just like all the people saying it looks formulaic.
TheVileOne
11-17-2010, 05:55 PM
It does look like they are trying to copy the Iron Man tone. Whether that will be a success or not, we shall see.
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 05:55 PM
The trailer is formulaic but then again this is a superhero origin movie. However I don't understand why people are focusing on that instead of the fact we are getting a very faithful Green Lantern movie. I mean, look at Sinestro, he's stepped right off the comic book page!
I had my worries with Iron Man that it would be a formulaic origin movie that doesn't make an impact, but look how that turned out. And to be honest, the film does have a formulaic story structure, but the way it was handled meant it didn't matter.
Green Lantern looks less formulaic simply due to the fact the source material is different from just about every other superhero movie so far. We have our first cosmic superhero. Why aren't we celebrating this?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just commenting on the trailer itself, which for a more obscure character in regards to the masses, needed to be stronger.
I personally didn't follow much of IM's production at all, I loved RDJ regardless, so I knew he would deliver but I wasn't sold until I saw the trailer. Until I saw him flying between the fighter jets, that's what sold it, not only to the diehards, but to the people with no idea about what a Mark III was. The trailer is the great equalizer, where your preconceived notions are either vindicated or vacated, and for those out of the loop, it creates the adequate amount of anticipation or it falls flat. DC needs another franchise besides Batman & Superman, and Green Lantern should be it, this is just a weak first impression. The effects aren't the issue, IMO, it's the trailer itself that's just kind of underwhelming. Hopefully, the next one is better...
dario2739
11-17-2010, 05:55 PM
Personally, I think the trailer looks fantastic. I love all the movie renditions of the alien GL's we see.
People don't know what a Green Lantern is. His name doesn't really describe his powers and seeing him in costume doesn't either. So this trailer focused entirely on describing what a Green Lantern is. So for a teaser we get less epic space opera and high sci-fi concepts, and more Reynolds being funny and exposition on being 'chosen'. This is why people are complaining about it looking 'formulaic', because the teaser is constructed that way so non-GL fans will get it.
I don't think this trailer described anything about GL, the average joe's arent going to be any wiser after this, if anything this was geared toward the fan base. This trailer really doesn't explain a great deal of what
a GL actually is or what the ring does.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 05:59 PM
Pretty cliched trailer, if you ask me. Regardless of what the finalized product will be, the trailer paints the film to be fairly formulaic, with the Michael Bay-esque cinematography and stock music (complete with over-the-top choir). I hope it's more than that, and there's no reason why it can't, but this wasn't a very promising trailer IMO.
I'll give you that one. That was the one negative observations that I had about it. It had the soundtrack similar to the ones used in the fan-made trailers on YouTube. There is not much you can do in the way of breaking from a formula or recipe when the trailer is dealing with the origin of a Superhero, though. This basically goes back to "Superman: The Movie": you briefly show the origin, then you introduce some of the characters of the film, always holding back the main villain until much later on in your marketing campaign. That's a winning formula that has worked for most of the successful comic book films. I am not to worried about that since history has shown that there will be several trailers tailored for different audiences (international, TV, Superbowl, etc.).
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 06:04 PM
What were those worries that were supposedly legit again?Wait just a damn minute, I'm one of the people who liked the trailer and you single me out because I didn't think that it was perfect?
My worries are Lively terrible looking acting in the trailer. If you look bad in a 2 minute trailer then there is little hope for you. Hopefully they just showed her worst parts. The movie looks like it could, could be a little too silly.
Happy Jack
11-17-2010, 06:06 PM
I'll give you that one. That was the one negative observations that I had about it. It had the soundtrack similar to the ones used in the fan-made trailers on YouTube. There is not much you can do in the way of breaking from a formula or recipe when the trailer is dealing with the origin of a Superhero, though. This basically goes back to "Superman: The Movie": you briefly show the origin, then you introduce some of the characters of the film, always holding back the main villain until much later on in your marketing campaign. That's a winning formula that has worked for most of the successful comic book films. I am not to worried about that since history has shown that there will be several trailers tailored for different audiences (international, TV, Superbowl, etc.).
The origin formula is all fine and good, it's how you do it that matters most. Not what you say, but how you say it.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:09 PM
The origin formula is all fine and good, it's how you do it that matters most. Not what you say, but how you say it.
So what parts of the trailer were what you called "cliched"?
Chewy
11-17-2010, 06:10 PM
I would point specifically to the "responsibility" scene for one
The Guard
11-17-2010, 06:11 PM
People don't know what a Green Lantern is. His name doesn't really describe his powers and seeing him in costume doesn't either. So this trailer focused entirely on describing what a Green Lantern is. So for a teaser we get less epic space opera and high sci-fi concepts, and more Reynolds being funny and exposition on being 'chosen'. This is why people are complaining about it looking 'formulaic', because the teaser is constructed that way so non-GL fans will get it.
I think, while he's not quite a household name, that plenty of people know what Green Lantern is. They're just not REAL familiar with him.
This is why people are complaining about it looking 'formulaic', because the teaser is constructed that way so non-GL fans will get it.
Except they still won't have a clue what's going on other than very basics of Hal Jordan getting the ring that gives him power and lets him become a Green Lantern.
I would hope, if nothing else, this trailer will intrigue people who aren't keen on this stuff to began with. Because let's face it, it does look really, really cool.
shiveringmelody
11-17-2010, 06:13 PM
Considering the film still has a ways to go in post production, I thought the suit looked amazing. Ryan is Hal from what I saw. The space and Oa stuff was just spectacular, I must of nergasm 3 times through the trailer. 2011 is the year of Green Lantern!
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:13 PM
Wait just a damn minute, I'm one of the people who liked the trailer and you single me out because I didn't think that it was perfect?
My worries are Lively terrible looking acting in the trailer. If you look bad in a 2 minute trailer then there is little hope for you. Hopefully they just showed her worst parts. The movie looks like it could, could be a little too silly.
I asked that question because you specifically said that there were "legit worries". There wasn't enough footage to make an honest assessment of her acting so I don't see how that could be a legit worry let alone a fair basis for judgment. So, what were those "legit worries" again? Worries is plural (meaning more than one) you know?
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 06:22 PM
I asked that question because you specifically said that there were "legit worries". There wasn't enough footage to make an honest assessment of her acting so I don't see how that could be a legit worry let alone a fair basis for judgment. So, what were those "legit worries" again? Worries is plural (meaning more than one) you know?You have a right to think the trailer was perfect but I didn't. You have the right to have blind faith in films but I don't.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:23 PM
You have a right to think the trailer was perfect but I didn't. You have the right to have blind faith in films but I don't.
Still waiting for those "legit worries"...
Excelsior.
11-17-2010, 06:23 PM
The Cowboys and Aliens trailer blows this one away.
protocida
11-17-2010, 06:25 PM
The Cowboys and Aliens trailer blows this one away.
Sorry, but no.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 06:25 PM
The Cowboys and Aliens trailer blows this one away.
By all means, I'm going to pit one movie's quality over the other, but in terms of trailers and teasers...
...Yes, I have to agree with you that C&A destroys Green Lantern's. It's due to the structure of C&A's teaser: They're mystery and the build-up leading to the 'moneyshots' that were..messy with 'Lantern's.
Like it or not, the consensus thus far has been mixed on Green Lantern's trailer. By all means, it doesn't mean crap in the end however, but it wasn't as polished as it should have been.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 06:26 PM
I haven't watched that trailer, I certainly hope the movie is better than Iron Man 2 was.
kedrell
11-17-2010, 06:28 PM
The Cowboys and Aliens trailer blows this one away.
Oh absolutely.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 06:28 PM
I couldn't care less about Cowboys and Aliens. It doesn't sound tasteful as a combination to me.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 06:30 PM
but it doesn't matter, that teaser was just more effective than 'Lantern's. But it doesn't mean Green Lantern is doomed because it's early in the game.
kedrell
11-17-2010, 06:32 PM
I haven't watched that trailer, I certainly hope the movie it's better than Iron Man 2 was.
That'd be a great feat. I'd love that.
Cowboys and Aliens has a much better teaser.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:35 PM
"Cowboys and Aliens" is tailored to a different market. I like westerns and I love my SciFi, but I never mix the two.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 06:37 PM
It just felt like an amateur cut Green Lantern's trailer. If they took the footage, created a more tighter cut with a narrative, it could have been improved. For example, they should have had MORE Pre-Green Lantern Hal scenes in there in the first half THEN cross the threshold into a world that's beyond our own. It should have been like an Alice in Wonderland like experience.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 06:42 PM
That'd be a great feat. I'd love that.If it isn't then it is going to be terrible.
And we are all offtopic and this is going to devolve into a **** measuring contest.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:45 PM
It just felt like an amateur cut Green Lantern's trailer. If they took the footage, created a more tighter cut with a narrative, it could have been improved. For example, they should have had MORE Pre-Green Lantern Hal scenes in there in the first half THEN cross the threshold into a world that's beyond our own. It should have been like an Alice in Wonderland like experience.
twyYIPhSa3U
I don't know about a tighter cut, but if it had a narrative, it would have been "Superman the Movie".
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 06:46 PM
What are you talking about?
Excelsior.
11-17-2010, 06:48 PM
They should've gotten whoever cut Sucker Punch's trailers to do this. Now those trailers are professionally done.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 06:48 PM
What are you talking about?
What you just said, unless you meant narrative in a figurative sense.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 06:52 PM
Why would it be like Superman, and would that be a bad thing? If you're gonna rip off another trailer, then rip off the best. As long as it's effective then so be it.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-17-2010, 06:57 PM
I have to say this slightly negative of opinion of the GL trailer is more than a little humorous to me because the board is so "WB is the greatest ever" centric. Uh forget about Catwoman and Superman Returns, they made TDK so they can do no wrong!
I'm looking forward to the flick, liked the trailer and hope that the movie is good but it's interesting and nice to see WB get a little criticism sometimes. All studios make crappy or mediocre movies and WB are no different.
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 07:02 PM
I have to say this slightly negative of opinion of the GL trailer is more than a little humorous to me because the board is so "WB is the greatest ever" centric. Uh forget about Catwoman and Superman Returns, they made TDK so they can do no wrong!
I'm looking forward to the flick, liked the trailer and hope that the movie is good but it's interesting and nice to see WB get a little criticism sometimes. All studios make crappy or mediocre movies and WB are no different.
Lol, that's news to me, I thought it was more Nolan-centric than anything else, which makes a lot more sense. I know fanboys get a little "football"-like with their affiliations, but I didn't know it was to the level of blind faith in WB.
WB cops it all the time on here. This bored is hardly pro-WB.
Chewy
11-17-2010, 07:08 PM
This board is pretty pro-WB. I see exactly what I SEE SPIDEY is talking about in almost every thread about a WB movie.
Excelsior.
11-17-2010, 07:12 PM
Well, I am no WB fanboy, but they are the only studio to release films like Watchmen, Inception, the Matrix Reloaded to a commercial audience.
zanos
11-17-2010, 07:12 PM
Sorry, but no.
Sorry, but yes. Anything with Olivia Wilde in it looks cool.
One thing I will say in their defence is WB do have a tendancy to learn from past mistakes. That said they are equally as good at make new braindead ones.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 07:16 PM
Sorry, but yes. Anything with Olivia Wilde in it looks cool.
Something tells me that "Cowboys and Aliens" is going to be what "Jonah Hex" should have been.
Weadazoid
11-17-2010, 07:39 PM
I can honestly say.
I have no idea what Cowboys and Aliens is....
I know Predator vs Aliens was an ongoing pulp series that invovled movie creatures.
I think...'think' Cowboys and Aliens is a pulp story... but I am really not sure.
I don't actually collect comics anymore mind you but back in the late 80 and early 90's I read and collected quite heavily.
I have the all these 1rst run Image comics in mint condition...includint tradeing cards still attached.
Shortly after Image kinda failed/stutered I stopped collecting.
-Arya-
11-17-2010, 07:42 PM
The trailer was pretty good, though the music was completely generic. I hope the soundtrack is eons better.
Doc Samson
11-17-2010, 07:43 PM
I can honestly say.
I have no idea what Cowboys and Aliens is....
Me either, but I think that's the point some were making. Knowing nothing about C&A, the trailer still got me more interested in that than GL, which is to say it was put together better. The general audience more than likely might have the same reaction, and be more indifferent to a mediocre trailer
dnno1
11-17-2010, 07:45 PM
Why would it be like Superman, and would that be a bad thing? If you're gonna rip off another trailer, then rip off the best. As long as it's effective then so be it.
It wouldn't be a bad thing (in fact I have already said that a lot of good comic book films have their trailers modeled after it), but if the "Green Lantern" trailer had a narrator, it would have made "Green Lantern" too much like "Superman: The Movie". There has got to be a point where you differentiate yourself from the template.
The Trailer was weird for me, Its look okay if not alittle um goofy. The trailer was alos put together badly. I mean like others have said, the trailer for Cowboy and Aliens was vastly superior.
The Guard
11-17-2010, 07:51 PM
COWBOYS AND ALIENS is a prequel to a THE COWBOYS OF MOO MESA major motion picture.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 07:52 PM
It wouldn't be a bad thing (in fact I have already said that a lot of good comic book films have their trailers modeled after it), but if the "Green Lantern" trailer had a narrator, it would have made "Green Lantern" too much like "Superman: The Movie". There has got to be a point where you differentiate yourself from the template.
It doesn't need a narrator, just captions. Or a movie cohesive way of telling the 'story' of Hal in the teaser. That he is chosen for something that we humans don't understand. That sense of 'awe'.
dnno1
11-17-2010, 07:58 PM
It doesn't need a narrator, just captions. Or a movie cohesive way of telling the 'story' of Hal in the teaser. That he is chosen for something that we humans don't understand. That sense of 'awe'.
There were captions in the film:
IN OUR DARKEST HOUR
THERE WILL BE LIGHT
GREEN LANTERN
SUMMER 2011
Of course there was the customary WB and DC logos, but you get the idea.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 08:01 PM
my point was that the trailer was a little clunky and maybe should have worked more 'build up'. that's all. It's not an end to everything for the project. Nor is it perfect.
zanos
11-17-2010, 08:06 PM
The Trailer was weird for me, Its look okay if not alittle um goofy. The trailer was alos put together badly. I mean like others have said, the trailer for Cowboy and Aliens was vastly superior.
It's meant to be goofy.
I know it's just a trailer, but honestly it didn't do much for me. But I'm a geek, so regardless of the trailer, my ass will be there, likely opening weekend.
Weadazoid
11-17-2010, 08:13 PM
COWBOYS AND ALIENS is a prequel to a THE COWBOYS OF MOO MESA major motion picture.
What?
Can't they just make a Deadwood movie? I loved that show....sigh
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 09:28 PM
has anyone noticed how Hal's mask looks 'fuller' and covers most of his brow when he is the apartment, but is more anglar in the other shots?
Same thing with the poster:
http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Green_Lantern_movie_poster-1.jpg
I Am The Knight
11-17-2010, 09:34 PM
has anyone noticed how Hal's mask looks 'fuller' and covers most of his brow when he is the apartment, but is more anglar in the other shots?
Same thing with the poster:
http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Green_Lantern_movie_poster-1.jpg
It's an expressive mask. It adjusts to Hal's expressions. So when he frowns, it looks "pointy". When he's happy, it "expands". It adjusts to his face, like a comic book drawing mask would.
Spider-Fan
11-17-2010, 09:45 PM
This film definitely seems to have made Hal a bit more cartoony. At least given the trailer. I think the film looks entertaining, but not great. Thor looked great by the footage. I can see the narrative points and everything for that clearly. GL just seems to want to be entertaining. No more, no less. I think it will probably succeed there, but nothing there makes me think it will be great or raise any bars. It just looks good.
sdc10
11-17-2010, 09:50 PM
has anyone noticed how Hal's mask looks 'fuller' and covers most of his brow when he is the apartment, but is more anglar in the other shots?
Same thing with the poster:
http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Green_Lantern_movie_poster-1.jpg
I think the apartment scene is one that probably get worked on, especially when he says he is gonna look for trouble.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 09:51 PM
It's an expressive mask. It adjusts to Hal's expressions. So when he frowns, it looks "pointy". When he's happy, it "expands". It adjusts to his face, like a comic book drawing mask would.
That's kinda crazy.
I Am The Knight
11-17-2010, 09:56 PM
That's kinda crazy.
LOL, crazy good or crazy idiotic? That's my theory on the mask, anyway. Makes sense to me... :o
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:08 PM
oh, i thought you meant it was done on purpose.
Crazy in a kinda cool way, and it gives them a reason for a CGI mask. If you noticed though, the mask looks different in some shots. I thought it was just unfinished CGI or they're in the middle of changing the mask's design.
Dwarf Slayer
11-17-2010, 10:10 PM
This film definitely seems to have made Hal a bit more cartoony. At least given the trailer. I think the film looks entertaining, but not great. Thor looked great by the footage. I can see the narrative points and everything for that clearly. GL just seems to want to be entertaining. No more, no less. I think it will probably succeed there, but nothing there makes me think it will be great or raise any bars. It just looks good.
The Thor trailer was also 5 minutes long, never meant to be seen by the general public, and gave away most of the movie.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:14 PM
If Green Lantern's trailer premiered at Comic Con, I think it would have the same reaction as Thor's.
Mike059jig
11-17-2010, 10:14 PM
The trailer could of been done much better, I think the introduction of getting the ring should of been done much better. It does look good though, but my interest is not entirely high. I will have to wait and see, Blake Lively looks so good but she just seems out of place in this film.
Spider-Fan
11-17-2010, 10:15 PM
And I am sure a lot of that footage will be in the trailer. Thor just doesn't have a silly feel to me. GL definitely seems cartoony, which isn't a bad approach, but I just don't see anything that makes me feel like it is trying to be anything but entertaining.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 10:16 PM
So I decided to see the teaser trailer for Cowboys And Aliens,and I'm not too impressed. It looks really bland,and average,and it's a mish mash of movies that we have seen before. The I was taken and got this special thing is nothing new either. I like Daniel Craig alot when he is kicking butt,but I don't think him and Olivia Wilde's hotness is enough for me to make me want to see the movie. The outcome of the movie seems pretty predictable too since Craig's character got that alien device on his wrist.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:18 PM
I have to admit, though I'm a supporter of the 'Cowboys & Aliens' teaser, it's not THAT good. The best teaser thus far has been "Your Highness". But it's more polished than 'Lanterns', I thought.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Phew,I dodged a bullet. I thought that you'd(Octoberist) possibly get mad at me for giving my honest 2 cents on the teaser trailer,I only checked it out because I thought that you'd maybe be on to something when you said that it was better than the GL teaser trailer.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:29 PM
They're just teasers. just teasing about.
how many times have we seen really good teasers to crappy movies, and really lame teaser to great movies? it's happens all the time.
Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim never had good teasers or trailers, for example, and they rock. Once we get into the Summer season, then we'll know who'll be the top dogs!
craigdbfan
11-17-2010, 10:33 PM
The Last Airbender for example had pretty good trailers yet the movie was utter ****.
sidkumar
11-17-2010, 10:37 PM
I'm hoping this was meant to be a very basic trailer for newbies and so that's why the very bland expositional lines of dialogue were used. It boggles the mind that with the writers, studio and director involved that we would have a movie with the kind of writing that the trailer suggests.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:41 PM
Ummm..here's gonna be the one answer that will ruin your picture thingy: It's the CGI that some people are skeptical of, but no one is complaining about the design.
Sinestro
11-17-2010, 10:41 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/sidkumar/FORUMPIC-1.jpg
To me both of these are acceptable.
To some others...to put it simply they just like to complain.I say to them if you can make a better film go ahead,and stop complaining.
Excelsior.
11-17-2010, 10:44 PM
sidkumar needs to take a stroll down to the batsuit discussion thread. Then reassess his definition of accepted.
antsman41
11-17-2010, 10:49 PM
How can people be made about this suit?
It's amazing that is is "his skin".
Sinestro
11-17-2010, 10:51 PM
sidkumar needs to take a stroll down to the batsuit discussion thread. Then reassess his definition of accepted.
:up:
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:52 PM
The CGI is being done and it's not finished. that's all. The composition looks kinda off but we have 7 months of post, so it'll get better.
In fact, his suit looks good in certain shots.
Doomed_hero
11-17-2010, 10:56 PM
there was alot of hate for the batman coutume in Begins. I was not even a big fan when i first saw it. But the movie was great and i accepted it as it went. I hae som problemswit th cgi, but it is something they hav timeto work on. I hate the batman /latern comparisons. They are opposites of eachother and this is even said a thousand times in the comics. One repersents fear while the other is made to overcome it. The tones will be different for each.
combocaz
11-17-2010, 11:14 PM
I liked the trailer and cant wait to see this movie.
Blackman
11-17-2010, 11:15 PM
The actual design is fine. The color look off and the SFX doesnt look good at this stage``
I bring it back to the fact that that suit can't exists as the reason why it looks off. In that case, you're never going to be able to 100% convince yourself it's real.
The Squirrel
11-18-2010, 02:23 AM
I still think a hybrid of a real suit enhanced with CGI would have been the better way to go. But as far as the interpretation of the suit itself? I think it looks great.
craigdbfan
11-18-2010, 02:42 AM
I for one I'm a fan of what they've done with the skin like texture and look of the costume.
Remember this is an alien ring. I like that it's making people uncomfortable.
They've taken a very literal approach viscerally. I think its fantastic.
The mask, white eyes, skin like appearance of the suit etc.
Also if I'm not mistaken it seems like it might augment his voice a bit. When he laughs it seems to have a distorted effect (the scene when he shows his suit to Tom). Might be a sound error or something but I'm pretty sure it might be related to the ring.
elgaz
11-18-2010, 03:50 AM
Thought the trailer was quite good myself, it looks like it will be a fun movie.
Haven't even considered judging the CGi or passing comment on it yet, I never do until I see the finished article .................. as we know from previous films, the CGi guys can be working on it right up until the 11th hour before release.
The Sage
11-18-2010, 04:59 AM
Question...who designs trailers? The WB production by themselves or does the director have input into what he wants it to look like?
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 06:13 AM
So far, almost 80% of the voters rated the trailer between 7 and 10, both here and on the main page, so it can be said the overall consensus is positive, while not wildly enthusiastic - you can get even 50% or higher rating 10 when itīs the case.
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 06:15 AM
To me both of these are acceptable.
To some others...to put it simply they just like to complain.I say to them if you can make a better film go ahead,and stop complaining.
I say the same, theyīre both valid interpretations for film purposes, even though Iīd say the complaints on the Batman suit are slightly more understandable from a strict comics-accuracy POV. The only noticeable difference in the GL suit is (in close shots) the lines, the color of gloves and size of boots, I mean, cīmon.
hugekent
11-18-2010, 06:34 AM
I thought it was horrible and I'm surprised by the results of the poll. The CGI and effects look horrific, and I know they won't look like that come release time, but I'm only judging the trailer. The tone was also all over the place. Awkward shifts between light-hearted and heavy-handed throughout the whole trailer. It's a trailer though, not the movie, so who knows?
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 06:44 AM
If you look at the IM trailers, they also had fun and humorous moments mixed with serious, dramatic stuff. This movie is clearly proposing to walk that same line, serious but fun.
SuperDaniel
11-18-2010, 07:18 AM
That pic that shows movie Batman and Green Lantern is hilarious. THe GL costume is a thousand times more faithful and accurate to the comics version....
CGHulk
11-18-2010, 07:38 AM
How the heck do you download these apple trailers on to your hard-drive? :cmad:
dnno1
11-18-2010, 08:23 AM
The CGI is being done and it's not finished. that's all. The composition looks kinda off but we have 7 months of post, so it'll get better.
In fact, his suit looks good in certain shots.
It's done. It shouldn't take that long to render everything (we're talking computers here). What they are probably doing now is editing and polishing off some of the scenes.
Daybreak_st
11-18-2010, 08:29 AM
I still think a hybrid of a real suit enhanced with CGI would have been the better way to go. But as far as the interpretation of the suit itself? I think it looks great.
I pretty much agree with this. I looooooooove the design itself. I love how his chest area pulsates the energy then travels down his arm and through the ring. Like they're literally showing us it originates with his will power, that is awesome. But as you said i think a physical suit that is enhanced with CGI would remove some of the "wonky" aspects that make it come across as too CGI. Now it may look great in the film itself and even in the HD trailers it looks waaaaaaaay better than i thought it did in the standard def trailer (actually thought it look really fake in there), but i do think anytime you can do somethiing practically it just helps you suspend belief a little more. CGI enhanced suit with the same texture, and design vs a full CGI suit.
dnno1
11-18-2010, 08:29 AM
So far, almost 80% of the voters rated the trailer between 7 and 10, both here and on the main page, so it can be said the overall consensus is positive, while not wildly enthusiastic - you can get even 50% or higher rating 10 when itīs the case.
I would be careful with Internet polls and the way you interpret them.
You could probably safely say that the majority of the voters did rate the trailer between 7 and 10 (just like you said), but we should all keep in mind that this is only those who (cared to) vote. There are thousands of others who didn't and we do not know what their opinion is about the film. Furthermore, opinions can change and we would need to take another poll some time later.
SuperDaniel
11-18-2010, 08:41 AM
CG suit is the best idea the filmakers came up for this movie! It works perfect for GL and the movie is going to shut up the haters once and for all.
But some fans are a bunch of weiners who do nothing but complain. Get a life!
GL is coming to the big screen! WOHOOO!!!
SuperDaniel
11-18-2010, 08:47 AM
I find it funny people compairing GL to Iron Man. Just because a movie is fun and with humour, does it have to be like IM? IM is the only character that is fun?
Are they all serious like Batman?
:rolleyes:
The GL trailer looks like.....A GREEN LANTERN MOVIE Duh!!!
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 09:12 AM
I pretty much agree with this. I looooooooove the design itself. I love how his chest area pulsates the energy then travels down his arm and through the ring. Like they're literally showing us it originates with his will power, that is awesome. But as you said i think a physical suit that is enhanced with CGI would remove some of the "wonky" aspects that make it come across as too CGI. Now it may look great in the film itself and even in the HD trailers it looks waaaaaaaay better than i thought it did in the standard def trailer (actually thought it look really fake in there), but i do think anytime you can do somethiing practically it just helps you suspend belief a little more. CGI enhanced suit with the same texture, and design vs a full CGI suit.
YOu donīt have to suspend disbelief with a fabric suit if the suit is not really fabric, but created by the ring, itīs just a matter of seeing it in the proper context. As it has been pointed out, the CG will be tweaked till release.
And letīs not forget also that Reynolds did wear a suit, a motion capture suit. that served as reference for the CG one.
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 09:23 AM
I would be careful with Internet polls and the way you interpret them.
You could probably safely say that the majority of the voters did rate the trailer between 7 and 10 (just like you said), but we should all keep in mind that this is only those who (cared to) vote. There are thousands of others who didn't and we do not know what their opinion is about the film. Furthermore, opinions can change and we would need to take another poll some time later.
Internet hype can be very deceitful, but at least we have some kind of termometer of the fan take, and as usual, thereīs a silent majority thatīs positive, mostly, and reasonable, and a minority of loud, insistent naysayers and nitpickers who give the rest a bad name. But as the release approaches weīll get a better sense of the impression outside fandom.
Spider-Fan
11-18-2010, 09:33 AM
Internet hype can be very deceitful, but at least we have some kind of termometer of the fan take, and as usual, thereīs a silent majority thatīs positive, mostly, and reasonable, and a minority of loud, insistent naysayers and nitpickers who give the rest a bad name. But as the release approaches weīll get a better sense of the impression outside fandom.
Wait, so people who are critical of th trailer are bad fans while people who just say "hooray team" are great ones? That is stupid. I think the trailer is good but nothing special, so does that make me a bad fan because I am critical and not gushing over it? If that is what you're saying, you're flat out wrong. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, whether you agree or disagree, like what they say or not.
Sundancer
11-18-2010, 09:35 AM
I find it funny people compairing GL to Iron Man. Just because a movie is fun and with humour, does it have to be like IM? IM is the only character that is fun?
Are they all serious like Batman?
:rolleyes:
The GL trailer looks like.....A GREEN LANTERN MOVIE Duh!!!
From what I've read over the years (nothing recently) neither Hal nor Stark are "jokesters." So it does seem like Iron Man is influencing GL or they're capitalizing on Reynolds' abilities in that area.
I really don't care as long as there are key dramatic moments where we can see Reynold's get serious, maybe grim. Humor and grim are both elements of people. Reeve was freaky in the1st movie when he screamed and flew into the sky after he found Lois in the earthquake.
The Abin Sur scene looks like a good start.
Stikmann
11-18-2010, 09:57 AM
Okay…here’s what I don’t get about the GL movie…Ryan Reynolds seems to be playing Hal Jordan as the “unlikely hero”. But Hal Jordan, as I understand him, isn’t an unlikely hero type. Peter Parker…a bullied nerd who suddenly has amazing powers is an unlikely hero. Even Tony Stark, a brilliant but messed up dude with a drinking problem who suddenly uses his talents to become a hero, is another unlikely one. But isn’t Hal’s appeal in that he’s a fearless kind of guy that knows how to get crap done? I mean before he gets the ring. He’s one of those old-fashioned guys that you know you can rely on in a pinch. Then he gets the ring and is literally a hero in every sense of the word. It looks to me that the movie is not like that at all. We’ve already had plenty of “unlikely hero” type of movies. I expected something different from GL. I’m still looking forward to seeing the movie but, my hopes aren’t too high. I’m also not crazy about the suit. The design is cool to me but he looks naked with body paint on IMO.
Spider-Fan
11-18-2010, 10:02 AM
It's not that Hal doesn't feel fear. It is that he is able to overcome it. I think this is a common misconception. In that way, the unlikely hero angle works. However, that is not where I am critical. I just feel like this is just going to be an entertaining movie. No more, no less. I want something a bit more out of a film that is to scope the universe and widen the comic universe for us.
Daybreak_st
11-18-2010, 10:23 AM
YOu donīt have to suspend disbelief with a fabric suit if the suit is not really fabric, but created by the ring, itīs just a matter of seeing it in the proper context. As it has been pointed out, the CG will be tweaked till release.
And letīs not forget also that Reynolds did wear a suit, a motion capture suit. that served as reference for the CG one.
Yes the suit looked like this:
http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ryan_reynolds_gl.jpg
It serves a purpose but isn't the same as having a practical suit. Now don't get me wrong i'm not hating, i loved the trailer after seeing it in HD but before that it look pretty off in the standard def trailer. I know why they can get away with it as a fan of the character but if you're the average joe and something looks fake, it doesn't matter why, you just say "yeah the effects looked fake" or something along those lines. Simply saying the movie will be effects heavy, the more practical things you can do, especially with the costume it just seems like a safeer bet. Agaiin i'm sure it'll work out fine in the end but a practical suit that looks exactly like the one we got but with CG enhancements (the glowing aspect) may have removed the cry of "it looks a little fake".
And i'm not talking a fabric suit or anything but more along the lines of how you approach a creature suit. Like Doug Jones as Silver Surfer when he wasn't on the board. Pretty sure he was on set in a costume that looked like the surfer's body. That's the type of design i would've liked for the GL costumes, where it's thin, feels textured, looks exactly like it does but done practically would look a little more "real". It's a moot point now though.
GhostPoet
11-18-2010, 10:48 AM
Here's how it's going to go...first trailer is obviously the trailer that focuses on the fun and humor. Second trailer focuses on the action and epicness of it.
The second trailer will likely please fans.
Personally...I was sold by the first trailer. It looks amazing.
wobbly
11-18-2010, 11:26 AM
Just caught up with the trailer, and I liked it. The shots of OA look amazing and GL looks to be offering up the most impressive fantasy 'eye candy' we have seen in any Super Hero movie to date.
Seen a good few comments on the overtly humorous tone and so on. Well, wait and see on that one. A few cherry picked snippets for a trailer does not always convey the overall tone of a film well (Clooney's 'The American' trailer had me thinking that was an all action thriller for example).
As for the suit...I think the finished deal will obviously look better, but it does not look terrible as is either. My complaints there are less to do with the CGI and more niggles with the design: I cannot say I like the over knee 'boots' nor the exposed nostril mask....and something about that mask design, lightening his iris's and so on...Does make him look a little distractingly like Ben Stiller.
These niggles are not a huge deal to me though, just something I'd personally prefer be a little different.
Anyway's, I think it looks promising, so as far as trailers go, job done for me.
Cagefighterkip
11-18-2010, 11:48 AM
How the heck do you download these apple trailers on to your hard-drive? :cmad:
What he said ^^^
Or some downloadable (direct to desktop) links would be swell.
Rezzo
11-18-2010, 11:58 AM
What he said ^^^
Or some downloadable (direct to desktop) links would be swell.
Here you go, just make sure to change the file extension to .mov.
480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801912)
720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801913)
1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801916)
Cagefighterkip
11-18-2010, 12:04 PM
Here you go, just make sure to change the file extension to .mov.
480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801912)
720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801913)
1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=117801916)
thank you so much :)
The Squirrel
11-18-2010, 12:08 PM
If there is one thing I learned in editing class, it's that you can't always judge a movie's tone by its trailer. We had to cut a trailer for a short film drama where it had to look like a comedy. I don't doubt the tone of the final movie will be great. And I know the CGI will be polished more. But I still think a full CGI suit was the wrong way to go. The design and everything looks great, it's just the technique I don't like.
kedrell
11-18-2010, 12:20 PM
Well then whoever cut that trailer should be fired.
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Yes the suit looked like this:
http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ryan_reynolds_gl.jpg
It serves a purpose but isn't the same as having a practical suit. Now don't get me wrong i'm not hating, i loved the trailer after seeing it in HD but before that it look pretty off in the standard def trailer. I know why they can get away with it as a fan of the character but if you're the average joe and something looks fake, it doesn't matter why, you just say "yeah the effects looked fake" or something along those lines. Simply saying the movie will be effects heavy, the more practical things you can do, especially with the costume it just seems like a safeer bet. Agaiin i'm sure it'll work out fine in the end but a practical suit that looks exactly like the one we got but with CG enhancements (the glowing aspect) may have removed the cry of "it looks a little fake".
And i'm not talking a fabric suit or anything but more along the lines of how you approach a creature suit. Like Doug Jones as Silver Surfer when he wasn't on the board. Pretty sure he was on set in a costume that looked like the surfer's body. That's the type of design i would've liked for the GL costumes, where it's thin, feels textured, looks exactly like it does but done practically would look a little more "real". It's a moot point now though.
The Silver Surfer was done all CGI. Itīs the same thing as here, The viewer just needs to wrap their heads around the fact that itīs not actually a suit, not as we know it.
Some people cry over rubber suits, leather suits, just like they cry over CGI. Whatever you do, thereīs naysayers, I speak from years of experience. Even the Spídey suit had its share of detractors ("raised web sucks", "looks tooexpensive to be homemade by Peter")
antsman41
11-18-2010, 12:24 PM
I just wish a Superman movie could up with the cgi suit idea first...
Ryudoz
11-18-2010, 12:27 PM
It's obvious why GL's suit isn't an acceptable adaptation. No white gloves. :cwink:
On a serious note: I think the trailer looks like what I would have expected from a GL trailer.
Cocky, womanizing Hal - Check
Some Jet Action - Check
Abin Sur handing over the Ring - Check
Initial shots of Hal flying to Oa - Check
Some Oa shots - Check
Sinestro Money Shot - Check
Construct shot - Check
Touching Scene with Carol - Eh... Kinda
A few shots of the villain - Check
Explosions - Check
Full on GL Suit Shot - Check
I mean, everything else has been gravy for me. The trailer itself is enticing enough for me to see it, but seeing as how GL is one of my faves, it didn't really need a whole lot to do so. So it's kind of hard not to see it through slightly rose-tinted glasses.
At the same time, the CGI needs some work. Some shots it looks good, others not so good. The tone of the movie feels like a wash. We've heard four people talk in the trailer (Hal, Carol, Tom, and Abin vs. Kilowogg, Tomar Re, Hammond, Three dudes beating up Hal, ONS #1, and screaming party goers running from explosions) and without as much context as we'd like to see. It's easy to feel disoriented because a lot of what has been spoken seems to have been picked because of the lines being said not for it's relevancy to the trailer itself. I'm hoping it's much better in the film.
In short, I liked the trailer and it gets me pretty jazzed about the movie. Could have been better, but it wasn't anything horrifying for me.
kedrell
11-18-2010, 12:47 PM
I've got no problemo with the idea of a CGI suit. Hell, for years I've advocated that Batman's neck area should be fixed with CGI so that he can keep the iconic outline yet still be able to turn his head. Rather than that, they opted for the bobble-head look to allow the movement in TDK.
Daybreak_st
11-18-2010, 12:51 PM
The Silver Surfer was done all CGI. Itīs the same thing as here, The viewer just needs to wrap their heads around the fact that itīs not actually a suit, not as we know it.
Some people cry over rubber suits, leather suits, just like they cry over CGI. Whatever you do, thereīs naysayers, I speak from years of experience. Even the Spídey suit had its share of detractors ("raised web sucks", "looks tooexpensive to be homemade by Peter")
Seriously! wow, i honestly thought it was a guy in a suit when he wasn't all shiny and everything, you know when they had him captured and he was separated from the board. That was impressive CGI then, i had no idea. Good to know. and you're right people are gonna complain no matter what, i'm happy with what i've seen so far and i'm the cg will look better.
Most of my reaction comes from the first time i saw a standard def trailer and the effects, particularly Ryan in the suit look...Off for some reason. I reminded me of how you can change the settings on a HD tv and make movie as well done as transformers look cheap. I dont' know how but i was making adjustments, and it made the transformers stand look like cheesy cgi. You know the scene when shi and megan are in the alley way and the transformers fully reveal themselves for the first time? That's the scene. Normally it looks well integrated into the surroundings but if you change settings it doesn't. Tried the same thing with Iron Man with the same result. that's how the standard def trailer looked to me. The cgi elements didnt' look well integrated. In the high def it looked better. I honestly think it's more of a compositing issue (merging the effects with live action in a convincing way) than an actual issue with the effects.
rashad
11-18-2010, 12:54 PM
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wobbly
11-18-2010, 01:33 PM
The Silver Surfer was done all CGI. Itīs the same thing as here, The viewer just needs to wrap their heads around the fact that itīs not actually a suit, not as we know it.
Seriously! wow, i honestly thought it was a guy in a suit when he wasn't all shiny and everything, you know when they had him captured and he was separated from the board.
I don't think it's clear exactly how they did it. I read one article saying Weta looked at Doug Jones Surfer suit on the set and decided they would need to do it all CGI, but at Jones's own website they say Weta applied a liquid metal effect over his performance.
What I do know for sure though is that all the scenes when he was disconnected from the board was Doug Jones in that duller gray/silver body suit (no CGI).
He also wore a more silvery suit that was used for performing the other scenes, but like I said, Weta have apparently said one thing and Doug Jones has said another.
Btw, you can the suit he wore here: http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/fan4behind.htm
GhostPoet
11-18-2010, 01:37 PM
It's obvious why GL's suit isn't an acceptable adaptation. No white gloves. :cwink:
On a serious note: I think the trailer looks like what I would have expected from a GL trailer.
Cocky, womanizing Hal - Check
Some Jet Action - Check
Abin Sur handing over the Ring - Check
Initial shots of Hal flying to Oa - Check
Some Oa shots - Check
Sinestro Money Shot - Check
Construct shot - Check
Touching Scene with Carol - Eh... Kinda
A few shots of the villain - Check
Explosions - Check
Full on GL Suit Shot - Check
I mean, everything else has been gravy for me. The trailer itself is enticing enough for me to see it, but seeing as how GL is one of my faves, it didn't really need a whole lot to do so. So it's kind of hard not to see it through slightly rose-tinted glasses.
At the same time, the CGI needs some work. Some shots it looks good, others not so good. The tone of the movie feels like a wash. We've heard four people talk in the trailer (Hal, Carol, Tom, and Abin vs. Kilowogg, Tomar Re, Hammond, Three dudes beating up Hal, ONS #1, and screaming party goers running from explosions) and without as much context as we'd like to see. It's easy to feel disoriented because a lot of what has been spoken seems to have been picked because of the lines being said not for it's relevancy to the trailer itself. I'm hoping it's much better in the film.
In short, I liked the trailer and it gets me pretty jazzed about the movie. Could have been better, but it wasn't anything horrifying for me.
just curious...what particular scenes did you feel had poor cgi?
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