Trailer

[S.A.A.D.]

The movie isn't throwing anything anywhere. This character really exists in comic books.

Exactly.

[That-Guy]

Superhero/sci-fi/fantasy nerds are as annoying competitive as sports fans. My friend told me that when she went to see Harry Potter, they showed the GL trailer and everyone booed, with one idiot yelling out: "Iron Man was better!"

Well, yes, a**hole Harry Potter fan, the finished Iron Man film was much better than a 2 minute Green Lantern trailer, completed months before the movie is even close to being finished.

[Excelsior.]

For god sakes many films have comic relief. Even some of the most serious films have it humorous characters or scenes.

Shouldn't comic relief be ....funny?

Very funny, but even Alfred provided some comic relief at times during TDK

And Joker himself provided comic relief.

Most of them were mildly funny. Not goofy and cheesy.

[Sawyer]

Superhero/sci-fi/fantasy nerds are as annoying competitive as sports fans. My friend told me that when she went to see Harry Potter, they showed the GL trailer and everyone booed, with one idiot yelling out: "Iron Man was better!"

Well, yes, a**hole Harry Potter fan, the finished Iron Man film was much better than a 2 minute Green Lantern trailer, completed months before the movie is even close to being finished.

Why do you think I'm bringing a back of tangerines to throw at people? :awesome:

[Ipodman]

I wanted to boo the Yogi bear trailer... lol.

[Parker Wayne]

That still doesn't mean, that what we saw in the trailer is not what we'll get in the final product...:huh:

True. It could be what we get in the final product but it's more likely that it won't be considering that there still even isn't a composer for the film along with all the other work that still needs to be done.

Shouldn't comic relief be ....funny?

Its hit and miss. Sometimes they're enjoyable and sometimes they aren't.

Most of them were mildly funny. Not goofy and cheesy.

Of course they were but it doesn't make him any less comic relief at times.

[Darkness Falls]

I wanted to boo the Yogi bear trailer... lol.

:wow: but it looks like a masterpiece :oldrazz:

[Paradoxal]

:wow: but it looks like a masterpiece :oldrazz:
I will be there for the midnight showing, I don't know about the rest of you...

[Sawyer]

Dont even joke about that... :csad:

[Paradoxal]

:cwink: But it's the truth!

[I Am The Knight]

I will be there for the midnight showing, I don't know about the rest of you...

IMAX 3D babay....

[Paradoxal]

IMAX 3D babay....
Only way to do it!

[dnno1]

Superhero/sci-fi/fantasy nerds are as annoying competitive as sports fans. My friend told me that when she went to see Harry Potter, they showed the GL trailer and everyone booed, with one idiot yelling out: "Iron Man was better!"

Well, yes, a**hole Harry Potter fan, the finished Iron Man film was much better than a 2 minute Green Lantern trailer, completed months before the movie is even close to being finished.

They booed at the heckler or they booed at the trailer?

[Spider-Bat]

Perfect! The movie looks great and as fun and cool as the Ironman movies!

It is so nice to see Comic Book movies being made faithfully and looking the right way now.

No longer do they make superhero movies with just bland black leather or rubber costumes, and not even looking like the heroes they're supposed to be.

Now the Superheroes are leaping off the comic page. No longer are filmmakers afraid to have colorful costumes.

I was so sick of them coming up with stupid excuses for them not to wear the right suits. Now they know a Super hero costume can look cool even if it is red or green or whatever the color is.

Now the movies are made for what they are. I'm so happy to see Batman and Ironman and now GL and soon to be more done the right way. They don't say, well we want non readers to go see the movie so we'll not even make it faithfully, but now after Ironman and Batman the studios see faithful is better and most of the money comes from fans and if it looks cool non readers will go see it.

That's what so many have been trying to say for so long. Cameron didn't say, well people who don't know sci-fi won't go see Avatar 'cause they're blue aliens, no, instead he made his movie and knew people would be interested if they're into that and if it looks cool.

Nobody knew of Avatar and they went anyway and it was a big hit.
They can do that with comics aswell, just make it for what it is and people will go see it if it looks good.

Comics are finally being made the right way and should be faithful to the source material and look. And non readers will go see it as long as it looks like a good movie. So many non comic readers used to say to me well why don't certain heroes wear their costumes?, then I'd have to explain all that and they'd be like, well I'd go see it if they had colorful costumes, 'cause even if they didn't read the books they knew Superheroes wear colorful suits.

GL has been truly brought to life. Everything in this trailer made me so happy. Now I hope Superman will be made the right way and after seeing the GL trailer and the new Batman and Ironman movies I know it will be done the right way, finally.

:hal:

[That-Guy]

They booed at the heckler or they booed at the trailer?

Supposedly they booed the trailer. Although my friend isn't always the most reliable source, so it's entirely possible three people booing turned into "everyone" in her eyes, since she thinks it looks like crap.

[Parker Wayne]

No one booed the Green Lantern trailer in my theater. They thought it was awesome.

Though people were like WTF during the Cowboys and Aliens trailer before laughing whe they showed the name.

[A Necessary Evil]

I'm really excited for GL. Trailer gets my :up: . Finally, reynolds can (hopefully) be in a comic book movie that isn't utter s**t or really really average.

[huntersmoon]

Maybe, maybe not. But Nathan Fillion isn't a movie star, nor do I think he will ever be. He's a great actor and he has been in some movies, but I don't think he's ever going to be the guy that audiences will flock to see. You could argue that GL doesn't need that type of an actor, but I would argue that the film does, because GL is a bit like Iron Man in the sense that the character isn't that well-known outside of comic book fans, and a very charismatic lead actor with movie star qualities can bring mainstream audiences in, just like RDJ did for Iron Man.

And while Reynolds might not be a superstar yet, I think that he has that natural charisma that indicates that he will be, eventually. The fact that he won Sexiest Man Alive is worth mentioning, when you consider some of the other actors that have received this nod: George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Hugh Jackman... all of which are A-listers. The fact that Ryan won it indicates that at least a few people in Hollywood think he's poised to become a HUGE star.

Fillion, though I like him, is a much better fit for smaller scale projects like Castle and goofy character roles like Captain Hammer in Dr. Horrible. He would have probably made a good Hal Jordan, but I don't think that WBwould get the audience that they likely will with Reynolds.Exactly how else can WB build this into a franchise without someone with star power?

[ObakeTora]

That's not why I called you a loser.

This is why I called you a loser;



You're still a loser.

Gee, I'd have more props for you if you said that to me to my face in real life, that is if you could duck fast enough. I would kick your ass. Fleebs like you give people who enjoy comic books a bad name, why hasn't a mod put you in your place for instigating a flame war? Anyone???

[spideyboy_1111]

I know there's a lot of people excited for this film... and a lot of GL fans on here, but i've got to be honest... the trailer was very mediocre and gave a mediocre feel for the movie overall....

it has a feel of Raimi's first spider-man film... which was fine for the time, but now, nearly 10 years later... that feel no longer suits the superhero genre... the humor is too much, blake lively's scenes were horrid... and the CG suit looks really off in most scenes, especially his mask.

i gave it a 6/10, what should be Iron Man meets Abrams Star Trek is turning out more like Spider-Man meets Ben 10.

hopefully it turns out much better, and gives alot of dues to the comics.. which i feel it at least will with the GL mythology and the GL planet.

[Micah12345]

For now, the trailer looks mediocre, but the only way to say is when we see the full thing in theaters.

The absolute worst thing this movie could be is mediocre. If it's a disaster, no one would mind it rebooting soon. If it's awesome, everyone wins. If it's mediocre, the public says 'meh, guess he just isn't that good of a character.'

[dark_b]

how come noone posted screencaps?

[Deaths Head II]

Gee, I'd have more props for you if you said that to me to my face in real life, that is if you could duck fast enough. I would kick your ass. Fleebs like you give people who enjoy comic books a bad name, why hasn't a mod put you in your place for instigating a flame war? Anyone???

You're the one who was clearly trolling by mocking the people here by saying they lack imagination if they like this film and whatever. So this is pure hypocrisy.

And your internet tough guy routine gives everyone on the internet a bad name.

[Weadazoid]

I love it when someone says they would 'punch somebody out...or kick them in the face" if they said that to thier face..


LOL... ya know what, If this were a face to face conversation, it would have ended a long time ago, with a... Lets just agree to disagree thing. It's the internet people, it's not real life.

Jak- you should concede that the CGI isn't perfect, but yes people are over reacting and they have time to add alot more flesh to it all. The full CGI right now does look a bit X Box 360 - but plenty can be fixed .

Obake, stop flipping out and drooling on yer keyboard in anger. Some people like the trailer some don't. I aint a mod, but it's pretty clear you can find people to agree with...agree with them and be happy.



No body ever 'chears or boos trailers" wher I come from I think the noises are in your heads.

[JamalYIgle]

I really liked Bruce Wayne's college friend Punchey in The Dark Knight. :awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_XJvNWmhSw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWP2k9YrQA

[HighFivingMF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_XJvNWmhSw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWP2k9YrQA
I was kidding, just referencing Ted's college friend from How I Met Your Mother.

[El Payaso]

Yes, because superhero movies never have those...

Oh, wait.


:whatever:

Yes, because too many superhero movies having those was not the point precisely...

Oh, wait.


:awesome:





He's a sidekick, and he does/says goofy things.

Ergo, he's a goofy sidekick.

It is a car and it is red.

Ergo, it is a red car.





Because people enjoy the comedy this particular kind of supporting character brings. Besides, it is nice to have the hero interact with someone who is aware of his secrets. Not to mention IT'S IN THE COMICS.

People loved Jar Jar, yes. Well, maybe not and people just bear things like goofy side-kicks and useless love intertests because of the cool-looking action.

Superheroes need to interact with people who are aware of their secret, sure. Does it mean that they have to be predictable and often unfunny goofy side-kicks?

I think Bat-mite, Robin, Madame Web and even a Zebra Batman are in the comics. Thank god some directors don't think that being in the comics is excuse enough to have them in the movies.


Very funny, but even Alfred provided some comic relief at times during TDK

And Joker himself provided comic relief.

Luckily enough, neither of them were goofy. And they far more than merely 'comic reliefs' or 'people to interact with.'



Shouldn't comic relief be ....funny?

:up: Things is they rarely are.




It is so nice to see Comic Book movies being made faithfully and looking the right way now.

No longer do they make superhero movies with just bland black leather or rubber costumes, and not even looking like the heroes they're supposed to be.

Now the Superheroes are leaping off the comic page. No longer are filmmakers afraid to have colorful costumes.

I was so sick of them coming up with stupid excuses for them not to wear the right suits. Now they know a Super hero costume can look cool even if it is red or green or whatever the color is.

Now the movies are made for what they are. I'm so happy to see Batman and Ironman and now GL and soon to be more done the right way.

Are you aware that Batman still wears black a rubber costume and not yellow, grey and blue?

[dnno1]

You're the one who was clearly trolling by mocking the people here by saying they lack imagination if they like this film and whatever. So this is pure hypocrisy.

And your internet tough guy routine gives everyone on the internet a bad name.

I thought we were supposed to ignore trolls.

[Parker Wayne]

No body ever 'chears or boos trailers" wher I come from I think the noises are in your heads.

When that twilight trailer played before Iron Man 2, I was pretty sure that wasn't in my head.

[ObakeTora]

Jak- you should concede that the CGI isn't perfect, but yes people are over reacting and they have time to add alot more flesh to it all. The full CGI right now does look a bit X Box 360 - but plenty can be fixed .

~and you should grow up to.

Obake, stop flipping out and drooling on yer keyboard in anger. Some people like the trailer some don't. I aint a mod, but it's pretty clear you can find people to agree with...agree with them and be happy.



Don't chastise me, I gave valid reasons to support why I didn't like the trailer, and if someone gets offended because I mentioned the lack of imagination, then oh well! What sane person would get offended by something like that!? Lets discuss why I feel that way! I've been itching to give examples to support my theory regarding the lack of imagination. Now how is that similar by "trolling" and calling people losers? No, man, be fair, call me out then call that person out, it must be that "group mentality" thing you suffer from that makes you believe you can overlook something like "calling people losers" and chastise me for simply having a difference of opinion. You can take that mob mentality and flush it! Someone asked me to give specific details as to why I did not like the trailer and I did, I didnt call them losers, or other silly names. But it is ok for this fleeb to go around calling people losers, in your eyes isnt it? Why? Because that was your friend or something!? You know that sort of behavior is very immature and unprofessional. I've been on these boards for 7 years, and never have I resorted to petty name calling to get my point across. There are grown people who peruse the boards, and as such you all should be expected to behave like normal adults, I am no exception. You guys represent something I love; comic books, and too many people are encountering people like Jak and getting a negative impression of this genre. Yea that was immature of me to say I would kick his ass, but I was growing sick of that individual wasting time by calling me names (nobody bothering to call him or her out for instigating a flame war) instead of giving intelligent examples as to why he or she or it disagrees with me.

[Parker Wayne]

Luckily enough, neither of them were goofy. And they far more than merely 'comic reliefs' or 'people to interact with.'


I was mainly talking more about arguing against people being critical of humor in superhero films in general.

[ObakeTora]

I was mainly talking more about arguing against people being critical of humor in superhero films in general.

I'm not against humor in superhero films, I think they should be carefully placed so as not to give off a negative first time impression. I think what worked for Ironman was the overall really good acting from Robert Downey Jr. he seems to be able to ad-lib very well. However to me, Reynolds just comes off as cheesy, when he is trying to be funny. I think it would have worked in 1984 but for now, I am hackneyed with this.

[TheComicbookKid]

Reynolds just comes off as cheesy, when he is trying to be funny. I think it would have worked in 1984 but for now, I am hackneyed with this.

I've watched Reynolds all the way back to Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place(which ironically had Nathan Fillion), and he has a particular kind of humor. His version of witty can come across as jerkish, smart-a=== in certain instances.

[Daybreak_st]

I believe that was for the depowered Silver Surfer. The fully powered Silver Surfer was fully CGI-rendered, all that you see on screen is CGI.

The GL suit isn´t actual skin like Abe Sapien, it´s a manifestation of the ring, so it´s closer to an energy form, like the Surfer, than Sapien.

Yeah realized that about the Surfer, i was only talking about the "depowered" scenes using a suit.

You make a good point about the suit. I guess it'll look fine when they finish up the effects. My only concern is that if people don't think it looks real they're not going about the rationlization of it, it being energy etc, they're just going say it had bad CGI.

And he didn't look as good in makeup as he did as CGI as well.

I thought it looked more realistic once he was depowered. The whole time i was trying to figure out if it was CGI or a guy in a suit. I kept thinking "if that's CGI then they really out did themselves" .

You also have to remember that the more "real" reynolds looks the more he is gonna clash with the cgi scenes and characters. If he was in an actual suit it would just be that much easier to tell the difference between his real outfit and a fully cgi creation like Kilowog.

Never thought about that, that's a really good point. I would say that even Avatar but complete CGI characters with humans and most people thought it looked real so it is possible, but having the cgi suit he does seem to "fit" more with the other characters. You make a solid point.

[Weadazoid]

Don't chastise me, I gave valid reasons to support why I didn't like the trailer, and if someone gets offended because I mentioned the lack of imagination, then oh well! What sane person would get offended by something like that!? Lets discuss why I feel that way! I've been itching to give examples to support my theory regarding the lack of imagination. Now how is that similar by "trolling" and calling people losers? No, man, be fair, call me out then call that person out, it must be that "group mentality" thing you suffer from that makes you believe you can overlook something like "calling people losers" and chastise me for simply having a difference of opinion. You can take that mob mentality and flush it! Someone asked me to give specific details as to why I did not like the trailer and I did, I didnt call them losers, or other silly names. But it is ok for this fleeb to go around calling people losers, in your eyes isnt it? Why? Because that was your friend or something!? You know that sort of behavior is very immature and unprofessional. I've been on these boards for 7 years, and never have I resorted to petty name calling to get my point across. There are grown people who peruse the boards, and as such you all should be expected to behave like normal adults, I am no exception. You guys represent something I love; comic books, and too many people are encountering people like Jak and getting a negative impression of this genre. Yea that was immature of me to say I would kick his ass, but I was growing sick of that individual wasting time by calling me names (nobody bothering to call him or her out for instigating a flame war) instead of giving intelligent examples as to why he or she or it disagrees with me.


um...no he is not my freind, he clearly is a supporter of this movie, who jumped on the 'superior positive side' of things. He can't even be told the CGI is a bit crude.

I was quick to point out that the Thor CC trailer all 5 minutes of it made public back in July was far more developed, however I was happy to do that in the Thor forum (not trying to upset anyone here.... just trying to show Obake, I am not really on the side of all is so awsome with GL.

If anything I take offense to people sugesting GL will make more then Thor, but that is thier opinion, and while I have a different one, I would rather not blast people here with my views. I simply laid out some good reasons why all 3 major heroes have alot going for them this summer.


----He called you a loser------
This is in general a sign of some kind adolecent skew.

You said admitedly later on after much back and forth
----- I would punch you in the face if you were here---------
This is a kind of kindergardners reaction to things that isn't far from his initial quip.



You are kind of lowering yourself to his banter.

[spideyboy_1111]

ugh im so unsubscribing from this thread....

[HighFivingMF]

This thread will get closed soon, won't it? :csad:

[Octoberist]

enough with this, people. let's move on.

[S.A.A.D.]

I swear that we really really really really really really need a moderator to handle certain people who are determined to create chaos in this forum.

[Paladin-Hoss]

So...finally got around to see the trailer. My overall reaction was...meh.Looks like a generic superhero/action flick.That said, it's been kinda funny reading this thread, watching the 3 stages of fanboys denials unfolds.

Stage 1

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 30 seconds teaser, dammit! wait for the trailer!'

Stage 2

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 2 minutes trailer, dammit! watch the movie!'

coming up..stage 3

'you can't judge a movie by actually watching the movie, dammit! wait for the...uhh..well...

[HighFivingMF]

So...finally got around to see the trailer. My overall reaction was...meh.Looks like a generic superhero/action flick.That said, it's been kinda funny reading this thread, watching the 3 stages of fanboys denials unfolds.

Stage 1

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 30 seconds teaser, dammit! wait for the trailer!'

Stage 2

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 2 minutes trailer, dammit! watch the movie!'

coming up..stage 3

'you can't judge a movie by actually watching the movie, dammit! wait for the...uhh..well...
Yeah, totally. :whatever:

[Ryudoz]

So...finally got around to see the trailer. My overall reaction was...meh.Looks like a generic superhero/action flick.That said, it's been kinda funny reading this thread, watching the 3 stages of fanboys denials unfolds.

Stage 1

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 30 seconds teaser, dammit! wait for the trailer!'

Stage 2

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 2 minutes trailer, dammit! watch the movie!'

coming up..stage 3

'you can't judge a movie by actually watching the movie, dammit! wait for the...uhh..well...

Preposterous. You can't just the movie until you've seen the Special Edition Director's Cut with 37.9465 extra minutes of footage so you get the movie as it was originally envisioned.

:cwink:

[Paladin-Hoss]

^^ I know, right?

In all seriousness...hope the movie turns out well for all you GL fans, i'm just not optimistic about it.

[Parker Wayne]

I'm not against humor in superhero films, I think they should be carefully placed so as not to give off a negative first time impression. I think what worked for Ironman was the overall really good acting from Robert Downey Jr. he seems to be able to ad-lib very well. However to me, Reynolds just comes off as cheesy, when he is trying to be funny. I think it would have worked in 1984 but for now, I am hackneyed with this.

I understand, but personally I think we're overexaggerating how much humor will be in the film. I honestly don't think we can gauge how much into it until the film actually comes out or until we get the second trailer and more tv spots.

[Bren]

Must say, I wasn't all that impressed by the trailer. Hopefully the movie is better than what the trailer portrayed.
I'm going to watch the film anyway, but the reaction from my friends who are not big into this genre, they were pretty 'ugh'. My parents watched Iron Man after seeing the trailer (and they very seldom go watch out). They said no to this one (so far).

[Doc Samson]

Superhero/sci-fi/fantasy nerds are as annoying competitive as sports fans. My friend told me that when she went to see Harry Potter, they showed the GL trailer and everyone booed, with one idiot yelling out: "Iron Man was better!"

Well, yes, a**hole Harry Potter fan, the finished Iron Man film was much better than a 2 minute Green Lantern trailer, completed months before the movie is even close to being finished.

The sports analogy is spot on, and something I've noticed over the last 10 years with the influx of superhero movies we're now getting. I remember going to see X2, and people loudly cheering the Matrix Reloaded trailer, then seconds later the same guys start booing the Hulk trailer. I assumed people just wanted each movie to be good, so that we get more, but I guess this isn't the case.

I think it's cool to show your appreciation for a good trailer, I know I do, but when something doesn't tickle your fancy, I don't think you need to be a jerk about it. God knows nobody actually cares either way...

[Excelsior.]

God knows nobody actually cares either way

Seems like you do.

[Doc Samson]

Seems like you do.

Lol, how so, I was just using a personal experience as an example. I'm pointing to the irritating nature of it. If I truly cared, I would have gotten into an altercation, just like the Eagles nuts do around here when somebody shows up in a Cowboys jersey

[Dark Knight]

I liked the trailer, but it definitely could have been better overall. The beginning music was too rockish and I felt they should have used more epic music and less dialouge.

They should have focused on the sci fi epic action this film will bring instead of trying to hard to show off the humorous fun side of the film.

[Parker Wayne]

I liked the trailer, but it definitely could have been better overall. The beginning music was too rockish and I felt they should have used more epic music and less dialouge.

They should have focused on the sci fi epic action this film will bring instead of trying to hard to show off the humorous fun side of the film.

This.

[craigdbfan]

People weren't to receptive of the trailer when I went to go watch Harry Potter last night. They didn't laugh at any of the quips shown in the trailer and kids along with others laughed and "ewwed" at Abin Sur. Had a pretty loud crowd too (during the trailers, good audience for the actual film).

The only movie that got "oh and ahs" and a laugh at the end due to the striking contrast between the footage and its title. Yup, you've guessed it Cowboy and Aliens.

Goes to show that while an idea might sound "wacky,zany" in print might be completely different when done by a great director.

As for GL trailer reception doesn't mean anything as Avatar also received lukewarm reactions from a lot of people in theaters I remember, and we all know how that turned out.

[That-Guy]

Lol, how so, I was just using a personal experience as an example. I'm pointing to the irritating nature of it. If I truly cared, I would have gotten into an altercation, just like the Eagles nuts do around here when somebody shows up in a Cowboys jersey

Haha, so you're from PA too, huh? Yeah, some of these rivalry things are stupid. I just really don't see the point, especially when it comes to superhero movies. If it isn't a character you care about, then don't see the film... but don't you WANT it to be good because it bodes well for the genre? I remember back before Batman Begins came out, all of these Spidey devotees would spam the Batman boards saying how much it was going to suck. Ridiculous. I personally don't want ANY of these movies to be bad. Some of them will, that's a given... and if you think GL looks terrible, that's one thing. But I think some people just want it to be bad so they can gloat.

[The Sage]

Haha, so you're from PA too, huh? Yeah, some of these rivalry things are stupid. I just really don't see the point, especially when it comes to superhero movies. If it isn't a character you care about, then don't see the film... but don't you WANT it to be good because it bodes well for the genre? I remember back before Batman Begins came out, all of these Spidey devotees would spam the Batman boards saying how much it was going to suck. Ridiculous. I personally don't want ANY of these movies to be bad. Some of them will, that's a given... and if you think GL looks terrible, that's one thing. But I think some people just want it to be bad so they can gloat.

I'm hoping Thor, GL, and Captain America are all good. Not only because seeing them succeed would be awesome but it will hopefully attract more solid directors who will take the source material of the comic books seriously.

[That-Guy]

Same here. I'm looking forward to all three films, along with The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises and The Man of Steel. And even though I was set against rebooting Spider-Man, all of the casting choices they've made for that film I really dig, so I know I'll probably see that in the theaters too if it looks good.

Not seeing that Spider-Man musical though, lol. Leave it to Julie Taymor to turn the Marvel world into an acid trip.

[craigdbfan]

X-Men: First Class and The Wolverine.

Both those movies have potential of being great due to the directors involved.

[HighFivingMF]

X-Men: First Class and The Wolverine.

Both those movies have potential of being great due to the directors involved.
The Wolverine I'm definitely looking forward to. First Class. Eh. Matt Vaughn hasn't made anything I've remotely liked. I hope it is good, more movie for me to enjoy! I'm however looking forward Thor, Green Lantern, Captain America, Spider-Boot, The Dark Knight Rises, The Wolverine, and The Man of Steel because I'm a fan of the directors involved/characters being adapted.

[Golgo-13]

Delusional optimism? Unlike you I have been following the making of the movie for a long time,and I didn't see your post because I had you on ignore. You should have chosen your words carefully,lastly I don't think that you were sincere when you said that you had a gut feeling,after people complained about what you said it lead you to sort of reverse what you said. And congrats,again,you just disrespected those who are actually looking forward to the movie,it is very obvious that I am not the only person who is optimistic about the Green Lantern movie. :whatever:
I'm not optimistic about the movie just for the sake of it at all. Know the facts before saying such a thing,the reason that I am optimistic about the movie is because I think that alot of good choices have been made,I actually thought things through. And I'm a fan of the source material that the movie is based on on the other hand. My reasons are very basic despite your lack of understanding pertaining to why I am apparently delusional yet optimistic about the movie. I got gripes,but the amount of them that I have aren't enough or strong enough to destroy the optimism that I have regarding the GL movie.

So remember this,having optimism=delusional optimism

No reversal here. I stand by what i said on the GR comment. It's my thought and opinion, whether you like it or not. You, and anyone else that can't stand anyone else's opinion that doesn't parallel our own..well, that's what the ignore feature is for. But i've always felt that that feature was similar to a child covering it's ears when it doesn't like what it's hearing; very childish - but whatever. Doesn't bother me one bit how you or others feel about what i said. It's my stance, and it's not going to change. Deal with it.

[dnno1]

There's and ingnore button here?

[Parker Wayne]

Yeah and S.A.A.D. practically ignores the whole Hype

[BubbaSparx]

I don't mind Ryan being himself, he's funny ...

Trailer def. gave off a vibe of trying to be WB's Iron Man.

I don't know much about Green Lantern, but in terms of the actual material of the trailer, the score it certainly didn't sell me or get me excited about the concept of the character at all.

My favorite part of the trailer, was "get these pants off and fly some planes" bit ... the rest was MEH.

[Dark Knight]

Despite the inconsistency from this first GL trailer, this film is going to be sweet....without a doubt IMO.

The film will have it's epicness of course, but will be fun like IronMan.

[fq2000]

Looking at all these comments (bad cg, Blake's wooden acting, too much comedy)..."classic" responses.

I liked what I saw.

don't even know why I bothered coming in here... :doh:

I agree with you, you can't say a movie sucks just because of the trailer, and from my point of view having read secrect origins, the trailer looks amazing, like something worth watching in an IMAX theater and 3d. The trailer is beatifullly done, and for those people saying that RR is imitating RDJ in Iron Man, I say to you go read the comics and MAYBE you will get RR performance.

[jmc]

Trailer def. gave off a vibe of trying to be WB's Iron Man.



One of the things it didn't need to do.

[Ipodman]

At least Iron man's trailer ended off with something cool. GL's trailer ended with a joke

[dnno1]

One of the things it didn't need to do.

"Iron Man" attracted more than just comic-book fans. It drew in folks who like high tech toys (i.e. cool stuff) and SfX. "Green Lantern" brings that kind of flavor to the table and will more than likely draw that demographic if they are aware of it. This is why they are subtilely selling this as an "Iron Man" (as well as a "Star Wars") so that they can tap into those markets. If they are effective in doing that, they will draw "Iron Man" (and or "Star Wars") numbers at the box office (maybe even better).

[Octoberist]

People weren't to receptive of the trailer when I went to go watch Harry Potter last night. They didn't laugh at any of the quips shown in the trailer and kids along with others laughed and "ewwed" at Abin Sur. Had a pretty loud crowd too (during the trailers, good audience for the actual film).

The only movie that got "oh and ahs" and a laugh at the end due to the striking contrast between the footage and its title. Yup, you've guessed it Cowboy and Aliens.

Goes to show that while an idea might sound "wacky,zany" in print might be completely different when done by a great director.

As for GL trailer reception doesn't mean anything as Avatar also received lukewarm reactions from a lot of people in theaters I remember, and we all know how that turned out.

Pretty much, that was the reaction that my crowd had too.

[jmc]

''Iron Man'' attracted more than just comic-book fans. It drew in folks who like high tech toys (i.e. cool stuff) and SfX. ''Green Lantern''brings that kind of flavor to the table and will more than likely draw that demographic if they are aware of it. This is why they are subtilely selling this as an ''Iron Man'' (as well as a ''Star Wars'') so that they can tap into those markets. If they are effective in doing that, they will draw ''Iron Man'' (and or ''Star Wars'') numbers at the box office (maybe even better).

Well then WB shouldn't be surprised if people see it as an Iron Man rip off and don't bother seeing it.

[Octoberist]

I think my problem with the trailer is that there's no mystery and it feels small scaled.

They need to really emphasis on the grand 'space opera' aspect once the next trailer hits.

[jmc]

I think my problem with the trailer is that there's no mystery and it feels small scaled.

They need to really emphasis on the grand 'space opera' aspect once the next trailer hits.

Granted that's actually what they went for. Was the 'space opera' thing something the director said or was it just fan desires? I've heard lots of the fan base use the term but don't recall if anyone involved with the production has.

[dnno1]

At least Iron man's trailer ended off with something cool. GL's trailer ended with a joke

So what law says that your trailer shouldn't end with a one-liner? BTW. Both IM trailers were rife with one-liners and they don't seem to be criticized as much by you.

[Octoberist]

I wanna say Ryan Reynolds has in interviews. But I could be wrong. Either way, I guess another way of saying it would be 'a sense of adventure'.

[jmc]

I wanna say Ryan Reynolds has in interviews. But I could be wrong. Either way, I guess another way of saying it would be 'a sense of adventure'.

So the 'space opera' thing may have originated within the fan base. If that's the case, we might all be expecting something completely different to what WB has in mind. This kinda worries me a bit more now coz I always assumed the 'space opera' term was a direct quote from someone involved.

[Octoberist]

Not just the fanbase, I think the term was used often by fiim sites and the like.

[Micah12345]

I'm 100% positive it was martin campbell that referred to it as a space opera.

[Dark_Lord]

At least Iron man's trailer ended off with something cool. GL's trailer ended with a joke

The GL trailer ended with Hal saying "In brightest day, in blackest night" and this shot
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/882/12648682.jpg

[Chris Wallace]

"Let's look for trouble" isn't necessarily a joke.

[Chris Wallace]

Yes, because superhero movies never have those...

Oh, wait.

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman_returns/sam_huntington/supes1.jpg

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2005/06/13/alfred3.jpg

http://www.**************.com/images/users/gallerypictures/1594L.jpg

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ironman2-2.jpg

:whatever:
No Robin? And it took me a sec to realize the pics of Favreau were from two different roles.

[Antonello Blueberry]

So the 'space opera' thing may have originated within the fan base. If that's the case, we might all be expecting something completely different to what WB has in mind. This kinda worries me a bit more now coz I always assumed the 'space opera' term was a direct quote from someone involved.
http://www.collider.com/2010/08/01/greg-berlanti-interview-no-ordinary-family-green-lantern-the-flash-interview-greg-berlanti/

Interestingly enough, from the place of character. It was a melding of a traditional superhero film on earth and a space opera. It was a melding of genres. I did it with two other guys who I’d worked with a lot in television. We’re all comic book fans and we all grew up wanting to have an opportunity like that, so we just started listing all the stuff we would want to see in a movie like that, and that was a large part of where the story came from.

Is it more Star Wars than Superman then?
Greg: Hal Jordan has been called the Luke Skywalker of the DC Universe, so I think it does have comparisons to that.

[Ipodman]

So what law says that your trailer shouldn't end with a one-liner? BTW. Both IM trailers were rife with one-liners and they don't seem to be criticized as much by you.

The delivery in the IRon Man trailer were far better :dry: That's all I have to say

[That-Guy]

The GL trailer ended with Hal saying "In brightest day, in blackest night" and this shot
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/882/12648682.jpg

Shhhhh! You're not supposed to remember that it ended with this! There aren't going to be any serious scenes in this film! It's just going to be a low-brow comedy chock full of fart jokes and sex humor! Actually, the entire trailer consisted of one scene where Ryan says "Go look for trouble!" Therefore the movie will suck! :woot:

Some of the complaints here have been so ridiculous. Whether or not people thought the lighthearted bits were funny, I seriously didn't think they made the movie look like some goofy comedy. I don't see anything here that makes the Tom character appear as the "annoying, wise-cracking sidekick" or whatever. And at least half of Hal's lines in the trailer are serious. And as for not making it "epic" enough... I do hope that people realize that it takes a lot less time to create finished scenes of a guy waking up and talking to his girlfriend than it is to finish up shots of an alien world where nearly every single image is CGI except the main character. But people seem to assume that because we only see Oa for a few seconds, that's all we'll see it in the movie. Gee, Mark Strong only appears for half a second... I guess he's just a blink-and-you-can-miss-him cameo, right?

Granted, some of the (serious) dialogue seems a bit corny, but that's how these movie ARE. I mean, I can pick out scenes from all of these types of films - Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, etc. - that have pretentious, corny lines of dialogue that don't sound like anything anyone would say in real life. Any you know what? That's fine! Because superheroes don't f**king exist either!

[hatebox]

Corny lines are tolerable if the actors have gravitas. Eg. Batman Begins got away with some of its corny dialogue because Caine, Neeson and Freeman are in their element saying them. Holmes? Not so much.

Whether Reynolds and Lively are up to what the script will make them say is yet to be seen. My problem with the trailer was more with its scructure than the scenes themselves. I'm hoping the next preview is far more focused and atmospheric. Superhero movies are ten a penny now - you simply have to stand out and this trailer doesn't.

[HighFivingMF]

And the scene with Abin Sur didn't really have any emotional resonance with me. Reynolds just looked awkward, again. And it came across melodramatic, not seriously dramatic. The score was also underwhelming.
Is that because it was chopped up and only featured bits of the actual scene?

[Brian Braddock]

Funny, the people in my office who arent comic book fans by a long stretch thought it looked interesting (well, most of the males in the office did, anyways).

And personally, not wanting to be critical or anything, but I'm of the opinion that there's absolutely no way of knowing if that scene is devoid of drama until the full scene is viewed.

Most people would certainly need to watch more than 10 seconds of it to reach a conclusion either way.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I showed it to this girl who hates these types of movies and even though she chuckled at Blake Lively's delivery, she thought it looked interesting. I also showed her the Cowboys & Aliens trailer and her response was "You've got to be f**king kidding me."

So at least not everyone thought C&A looked better than GL. I personally am really excited for both, though.

[Weadazoid]

yeah.... I don't get the love of Cowboys and Aliens, it looks too strange, I just don't get it...any of it really.

It seems to be a movie taking itself very seriously but the concpet is just well..laughable, to out there to zany to work. I don't get it.

[Dark Knight]

Next GL trailer needs to have a more EPIC feel to it IMO with better and far more EPIC music used.

[Upset Spideyfan]

So...finally got around to see the trailer. My overall reaction was...meh.Looks like a generic superhero/action flick.That said, it's been kinda funny reading this thread, watching the 3 stages of fanboys denials unfolds.

Stage 1

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 30 seconds teaser, dammit! wait for the trailer!'

Stage 2

'you can't judge a movie by watching a 2 minutes trailer, dammit! watch the movie!'

coming up..stage 3

'you can't judge a movie by actually watching the movie, dammit! wait for the...uhh..well...

This. Disregarding the quality of the GL movie whatever that ends up being this board's reminding me of the Ghost Rider/Superman Returns/Elektra/takeyourpick boards in the months before their release.

I'm not saying GL will turn out like those movies but its definitely a sign to me that the trailer didn't hit as hard as it could/should have.

[SuperAl]

better music wouldve made the trailer better, the weird rock music in the beginning was unexpected. either way ill wait for more footage, movie doesnt come out for like 6 months. ive seen a bunch of awesome trailers and the movies came out to be horrible.

[Doc Samson]

Corny lines are tolerable if the actors have gravitas. Eg. Batman Begins got away with some of its corny dialogue because Caine, Neeson and Freeman are in their element saying them. Holmes? Not so much.

Whether Reynolds and Lively are up to what the script will make them say is yet to be seen. My problem with the trailer was more with its scructure than the scenes themselves. I'm hoping the next preview is far more focused and atmospheric. Superhero movies are ten a penny now - you simply have to stand out and this trailer doesn't.

http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[S.A.A.D.]

I think that there is gravitas tied into the comedy bits that we have seen. Additional gravitas would be forced,I don't want this movie to try too hard and fail. The less flaws a movie has,the better.

[ObakeTora]

better music wouldve made the trailer better, the weird rock music in the beginning was unexpected. either way ill wait for more footage, movie doesnt come out for like 6 months. ive seen a bunch of awesome trailers and the movies came out to be horrible.

That was what put me off of the trailer initially, and led to my Tomy Stark vib sensation.

[Mondragon]

At least Iron man's trailer ended off with something cool. GL's trailer ended with a joke
The GL trailer ended with Hal saying "In brightest day, in blackest night" and this shot
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/882/12648682.jpgShhhhh! You're not supposed to remember that it ended with this! There aren't going to be any serious scenes in this film! It's just going to be a low-brow comedy ....

I could have sworn it ended with this...
......http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4009/greenloonternmoviehalda.jpg
I must have caought the bogus edit.



Not helping?

[Nave 'Torment']

Wow, so everyone just missed the greatest depiction of space ever? I'm talking OA here people. With artwork released earlier this year, that seems to be the greatest setting since before Pandora became a place.

I'm glad they aren't going full Space Opera here though - it distinguishes it from other team-oriented space dramas. This is one man's story. It's hard to believe that it always was.

[BubbaSparx]

The trailer was meh.

I'm quite afraid of these adaptations that turn everything into cheap comedy and the heroes are cool because they're womanizers and irresponsible.

In some ways it reminded me a lot of the Green Hornet teaser.
But that is cool, and is what makes them cool ... that isn't however why they become heroes. And they all go thru change to become more responsible before the end of the film.

Why don't you think womanizing and being irresponsible isn't cool? Those character flaws with superheroes are ultimately what makes them relatable.

[jmc]

yeah.... I don't get the love of Cowboys and Aliens, it looks too strange, I just don't get it...any of it really.

It seems to be a movie taking itself very seriously but the concpet is just well..laughable, to out there to zany to work. I don't get it.

Answer is simple, the type of movie it showed was completely unexpected. It looks different.

[S.A.A.D.]

It looks different but not by much. And is it me or do the ufos look like airplanes because of the wings?!? I'd say that around 90% of the trailer for it looks generic.

[jmc]

It looks like Deadwood meets War of the Worlds.

[Dark Sentinel]

Ok, I HAVE to say this, but I love the rock opera music in the trailer. It gives the movie a tone all its own.

[Deaths Head II]

I like it too. I agree it gives it a tone all it's own.

[Doc Ock]

So at least not everyone thought C&A looked better than GL. I personally am really excited for both, though.

*high fives* Agreed!

[DACrowe]

Why does the Cowboy and Aliens trailer seem cool?

Because when you saw it, if you didn't know what it was, you spend the whole time going WTF...man Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford sure look cool as gritty, grouchy westerners...

then boom...a spaceship and the title. It has the kind of eccentric craziness of say Pirates of the Caribbean. While this is more serious....it just clicks. The concept is silly, but the movie just looks different--in a good way.

Green Lantern's trailer looks like every other superhero movie.

[Doc Ock]

Green Lantern's trailer looks like every other superhero movie.

I disagree, I saw a very sci-fi film. The trailer(minus the first bit) very much reminded me of Star Trek 2009 more than any superhero movie.

[jmc]

It was played much more superhero like than sci-fi.

[Metropolis_Man]

I got a very general superhero vibe from it but with something the genre hasn't really touched on that much and that's a grand scope of space and the travel between the two. You have two very basic concepts finally combined for what I hope will be a fun, adventurous, sci-fi, epic film. I think it has the potential to be the biggest on scale of exploration than any comic related property yet.

[S.A.A.D.]

Why does the Cowboy and Aliens trailer seem cool?

Because when you saw it, if you didn't know what it was, you spend the whole time going WTF...man Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford sure look cool as gritty, grouchy westerners...

then boom...a spaceship and the title. It has the kind of eccentric craziness of say Pirates of the Caribbean. While this is more serious....it just clicks. The concept is silly, but the movie just looks different--in a good way.

Green Lantern's trailer looks like every other superhero movie.

1) I'll give you that if you didn't know about the C&A movie before it's trailer came out then you didn't know what to expect.

2) If you knew that Daniel Craig/Harrison Ford was going to be in an upcoming movie that is a Western/Sci-fi with aliens in it,then yes,you'd understand what the movie is about based on the trailer.

3) Other superhero movies aren't about a guy who got an alien ring that worked based on willpower/imagination,and also they didn't have suits that were made out of green energy with the help of a power ring/imagination/willpower. They didn't have an alien ring that picked someone to become a superhero,that damn teaser trailer highlighted the differences that I have described that the other superhero movies lack.

4) Not all comic book movies can completely escape normality. It's normal for them have similarities,you expecting them to not be normal at all is unrealistic.

5) If you saw the trailer for C&A once before,then of course you would know what to expect from the trailer for it on whatever go that it is.

Take off the tinted glasses,they aren't doing you any good. Take responsibility.

[DACrowe]

I got a very general superhero vibe from it but with something the genre hasn't really touched on that much and that's a grand scope of space and the travel between the two. You have two very basic concepts finally combined for what I hope will be a fun, adventurous, sci-fi, epic film. I think it has the potential to be the biggest on scale of exploration than any comic related property yet.

In concept I agree. There has been no "space opera" or "cosmic adventure" superhero movie unless you count the first few scenes of the original Superman movie. Otherwise, nadda.

But the trailer did not emphasize that, but chose to say this is a fun lighthearted superhero origin film that's kind of like Iron Man.

They need another trailer...maybe around the Super Bowl....that emphasizes an epic space adventure that is more like Star Trek. Except it is combining the superhero elements. I think Captain America should emphasize WWII in the ad campaign first and then show that it is a superhero movie. Same with mythicism and Thor. Space should be the first thing people see in Green Lantern and then they realize it is a superhero movie. Like in Cowboys and Aliens. You think you're watching a mysterious western...and boom, there are aliens.

Of course, if the space stuff is only 2-3 scenes, I understand why they aren't focusing on it. We don't know if it is really a space opera or not.

[DACrowe]

I got a very general superhero vibe from it but with something the genre hasn't really touched on that much and that's a grand scope of space and the travel between the two. You have two very basic concepts finally combined for what I hope will be a fun, adventurous, sci-fi, epic film. I think it has the potential to be the biggest on scale of exploration than any comic related property yet.

In concept I agree. There has been no "space opera" or "cosmic adventure" superhero movie unless you count the first few scenes of the original Superman movie. Otherwise, nadda.

But the trailer did not emphasize that, but chose to say this is a fun lighthearted superhero origin film that's kind of like Iron Man.

They need another trailer...maybe around the Super Bowl....that emphasizes an epic space adventure that is more like Star Trek. Except it is combining the superhero elements. I think Captain America should emphasize WWII in the ad campaign first and then show that it is a superhero movie. Same with mythicism and Thor. Space should be the first thing people see in Green Lantern and then they realize it is a superhero movie. Like in Cowboys and Aliens. You think you're watching a mysterious western...and boom, there are aliens.

Of course, if the space stuff is only 2-3 scenes, I understand why they aren't focusing on it. We don't know if it is really a space opera or not.

[Metropolis_Man]

Of course, if the space stuff is only 2-3 scenes, I understand why they aren't focusing on it. We don't know if it is really a space opera or not.

Yeah, the trailer only gave us peeks and the space aspect of the story. I'm not even sure how much of it will be spent on Earth and how much of it out in space and on Oa. More than anything it's me hoping they tried to show a more fun trailer to get general people interested at first and later, as you said, reveal the space opera bits to help make it stand out against others

[DACrowe]

1) I'll give you that if you didn't know about the C&A movie before it's trailer came out then you didn't know what to expect.

2) If you knew that Daniel Craig/Harrison Ford was going to be in an upcoming movie that is a Western/Sci-fi with aliens in it,then yes,you'd understand what the movie is about based on the trailer.

3) Other superhero movies aren't about a guy who got an alien ring that worked based on willpower/imagination,and also they didn't have suits that were made out of green energy with the help of a power ring/imagination/willpower. They didn't have an alien ring that picked someone to become a superhero,that damn teaser trailer highlighted the differences that I have described that the other superhero movies lack.

4) Not all comic book movies can completely escape normality. It's normal for them have similarities,you expecting them to not be normal at all is unrealistic.

5) If you saw the trailer for C&A once before,then of course you would know what to expect from the trailer for it on whatever go that it is.

As I said in my previous post that Green Lantern as a character features elements that aren't like other superheroes. Especially none that have made the leap to film as of yet. However, the trailer doesn't emphasize those elements. It focuses on a smartass hero who has "witty" banter with his girl friday, speaks vaguely about accepting responsibility that he isn't sure he can handle, and a villain who threatens his love interest.

These elements all bring to mind Spidey and Iron Man. Non-fans have all been very apathetic towards the trailer who thought it looked generic. You can't throw a basketball without hitting four or five superhero movies these days. To avoid audience-fatigue, you need to differentiate yourself.

Green Lantern is a space opera in the comics with a ring that can do things not really seen on film...at least not in a superhero movie. What we got was Ryan Renyolds being Ryan Renyolds and he gets a magic ring that lets him fly around the Earth (like Superman). The way he got the ring is just MacGuffin. People need to feel compelled to see this movie.....all I'm saying is the trailer is not compelling.

You're right that C&A's trailer is predictable once you've seen it. But that first glance gets people whispering and intrigued. It leaves an impression. It doesn't look like 'another alien" movie, such as Skyline, War of the Worlds, Independence Day, etc. That is all I'm saying.

Take off the tinted glasses,they aren't doing you any good. Take responsibility.

Again you have some personal anger towards me. I honestly don't get it. I'm discussing GL and not wearing any "tinted glasses." I don't know what I need to take responsibility for. Saying that the trailer was generic? Sorry, but I'm not trying to be negative. Just stating the obvious.

[S.A.A.D.]

Yeah, the trailer only gave us peeks and the space aspect of the story. I'm not even sure how much of it will be spent on Earth and how much of it out in space and on Oa. More than anything it's me hoping they tried to show a more fun trailer to get general people interested at first and later, as you said, reveal the space opera bits to help make it stand out against others

Half of the movie is suppose to take place in space.

[Metropolis_Man]

Half of the movie is suppose to take place in space.

I was assuming so and I'm glad for that. I could honestly take an entire Green Lantern film taking place in space, on Oa, and patrolling various sectors looking for the threats.

I know this one has to have the Earth elements in order to see Hal's transformation in character once he gets the ring and learns responsibility.

I'm very excited and can't wait for more official photos, posters and another trailer to give us more of an idea for whats in store. I have to try not to be too overwhelmed and praise it immediately just because I'm a fan of the comics.

It's best to reserve judgment until seeing the actual film but of course the various sides, people defending and disputing it, are going to formulate opinions early.

[S.A.A.D.]

I was assuming so and I'm glad for that. I could honestly take an entire Green Lantern film taking place in space, on Oa, and patrolling various sectors looking for the threats.

I know this one has to have the Earth elements in order to see Hal's transformation in character once he gets the ring and learns responsibility.

I'm very excited and can't wait for more official photos, posters and another trailer to give us more of an idea for whats in store. I have to try not to be too overwhelmed and praise it immediately just because I'm a fan of the comics.

It's best to reserve judgment until seeing the actual film but of course the various sides, people defending and disputing it, are going to formulate opinions early.

Martin Campbell in one video said that there is quite a bit of the movie that takes place in space and said that he thinks that there there will be enough stuff in space that will satisfy everybody. He also said that he didn't know the percentage,this was back in January. Prologue,training sessions,trip,final battle as far as I know.

[jmc]

I'm wondering if Marvel has taken note of the reception to the GL trailer and are making any tweaks to their trailers. I'm assuming Thor would be the first one released given it's release date. It wouldn't surprise me if they try and veer away from the superhero angle and play up the mythology angle to try and differentiate it.

[BubbaSparx]

Just saw the Cowboys Aliens trailer. Looks interesting.

[GeometryKid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWQ7J4_avq8&feature=related

Ryan Reynolds sort of addresses fan fears about characterization and storyline. Seems encouraging.

[Polux]

I think it´s funny when people say that Ryan Reynolds is playing himself (after watching the trailer), I mean, if anything, he was cast because he´s good at playing that type of character, which I understood after watching First Flight, after the first two scenes of Hal Jordan I was like "Oh, right, Ryan Reynolds, perfect!"

Ryan Reynolds is not playing himself, he´s playing Hal Jordan, who happens to be written (in the movie AND the comics) as pretty much the way people think Ryan Reynolds "is" (remember guys, as much as we think we "know" this actors, we actually have no idea of who or what they´re reallly like).


Polux

[Troy_Parker]

Can't stop rewatching the trailer. I am so hyped for this movie... and I'm not even a G.L fan! :D

[Polux]

The GL trailer ended with Hal saying "In brightest day, in blackest night" and this shot
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/882/12648682.jpg

Am I the only one who thinks this shot is completely bada$$??!! Really??!!

:awesome:

Polux

[The Sage]

No, it's awesome. :D

[S.A.A.D.]

It's one of the best shots in the trailer.

[The Sage]

Gonzo, S.A.A.D? :funny:

[S.A.A.D.]

But I like Gonzo,he's my favorite Muppet character! :csad:

[The Sage]

He's great. :up:

Has anyone thought about how the movie will end?

With the rumors that the final battle will be on Oa against Parallax, I'm guessing he'll be put in the main power battery, creating the yellow impurity.

[Dark Knight]

But the trailer did not emphasize that, but chose to say this is a fun lighthearted superhero origin film that's kind of like Iron Man.

They need another trailer...maybe around the Super Bowl....that emphasizes an epic space adventure that is more like Star Trek. Except it is combining the superhero elements. Of course, if the space stuff is only 2-3 scenes, I understand why they aren't focusing on it. We don't know if it is really a space opera or not.






Agreed. The next trailer needs to focus and emphasize on the EPIC SPACE aspects and mystery of the GL Corp and story.

Those aspects will peak the general movie audiences interest big time and fans would prefer seeing that as well.

They should get a new trailer out for the Super Bowl or AFC and NFC Championship games in the NFL and for sure in March in front of Snyders' Sucker Punch.

[Octoberist]

But I like Gonzo,he's my favorite Muppet character! :csad:

It sucks that Muppet Babies (the complete set) will never be on DVD due to the fact that they would have to pay royalties to Lucas and to the other movies they used clips from (Star Wars, Ghostbusters, etc).

[Octoberist]

Agreed. The next trailer needs to focus and emphasize on the EPIC SPACE aspects and mystery of the GL Corp and story.

Those aspects will peak the general movie audiences interest big time and fans would prefer seeing that as well.

They should get a new trailer out for the Super Bowl or AFC and NFC Championship games in the NFL and for sure in March in front of Snyders' Sucker Punch.

I think this has been a slight misstep, but Green Lantern can and will be a champ if the next trailer plays on the 'epic' angle.

[S.A.A.D.]

He's great. :up:

Has anyone thought about how the movie will end?

With the rumors that the final battle will be on Oa against Parallax, I'm guessing he'll be put in the main power battery, creating the yellow impurity.

That's how it's going to end. Gray haired Hal ftw! :awesome:

The other purposed ending didn't sound bad.

[Dark Knight]

It sucks that Muppet Babies (the complete set) will never be on DVD due to the fact that they would have to pay royalties to Lucas and to the other movies they used clips from (Star Wars, Ghostbusters, etc).







Wow....didn't know that.

I would think the creators and producers of the Muppets and Muppet Babies would have enough money to pay Lucas no?

Or maybe they can just give a percentage of the sales of the DVD's to Lucas and the GhostBuster folks?

[S.A.A.D.]

I think this has been a slight misstep, but Green Lantern can and will be a champ if the next trailer plays on the 'epic' angle.

How can it not? the trailer we saw was meant to be a big tease. :o

[Dark Knight]

I think this has been a slight misstep, but Green Lantern can and will be a champ if the next trailer plays on the 'epic' angle.





Yep,

They need to play the EPIC SPACE MYSTERY and ACTION angle in the next trailer and all will be good IMO.

[Octoberist]

Wow....didn't know that.

I would think the creators and producers of the Muppets and Muppet Babies would have enough money to pay Lucas no?

Or maybe they can just give a percentage of the sales of the DVD's to Lucas and the GhostBuster folks?

I mean, it's not just those two but literally dozens and dozens of movies that they had clips from. They even had clips from Clash of the Titans.

In the end, it's not even worth it and it's just too expensive. Sadly.

[Octoberist]

How can it not? the trailer we saw was meant to be a big tease. :o

Looking back now, it WISH it was more of a teaser. It did feel somewhat rushed, given SOME of the effects. Again, not a bad trailer but I don't think it was a proper way to introduce Green Lantern to the public.

If it were, then we would not have this conversation (or the endless mean-spirited debates with others) on the boards. :p

[S.A.A.D.]

It sucks that Muppet Babies (the complete set) will never be on DVD due to the fact that they would have to pay royalties to Lucas and to the other movies they used clips from (Star Wars, Ghostbusters, etc).

Boooooooooooo.

[S.A.A.D.]

One thing that I hate about the teaser trailer is when the serious music is playing while there is that scene of the car going over a road hill with Ryan looking goofy while driving,it made the serious tone effing cheesy and stupid.

[Octoberist]

I still don't understand how they did it back then, but I guess it was because it was Jim Henson. And now he's gone. :(

[The Sage]

That's how it's going to end. Gray haired Hal ftw! :awesome:

The other purposed ending didn't sound bad.

What was the other?

[S.A.A.D.]

I still don't understand how they did it back then, but I guess it was because it was Jim Henson. And now he's gone. :(

Jim Henson and his work doesn't get enough respect these days. :csad:

[S.A.A.D.]

What was the other?

I think that the other one was Hector being the final bad guy to go after,Hal ends up using a jet to save the day once he is unable to reuse his power ring. And a part of that is when Hal goe's back to Oa for more training and with the city finding out about the GL Corps,MAYBE.

[S.A.A.D.]

I still don't understand how they did it back then, but I guess it was because it was Jim Henson. And now he's gone. :(

How what was done back then?

[Spider-Vader]

The trailer was okay.

I'm not the biggest GL fan, but I'm no hater. But the trailer gave me an Iron Man vibe to it. Not what I expected from a GL movie, but it could be a pleasant surprise.

[ObakeTora]

I rest my case. Thanks Vader, seems like I'm not the only one here who got an Ironman vibe watching the trailer. I really hope this film doesn't try too hard.

[HighFivingMF]

I rest my case.
What case? That you can find someone with a similar opinion?

[ObakeTora]

that and the fact there are others on here who feel the same way captain obvious.

[HighFivingMF]

that and the fact there are others on here who feel the same way captain obvious.
That's not really a case. It's just a... thing that happened.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Who didn't get an Iron Man vibe while watching the trailer? It's obvious thats the vibe they wanted to give out.

[Parker Wayne]

Who didn't get an Iron Man vibe while watching the trailer? It's obvious thats the vibe they wanted to give out.

Pretty much. I always said that Green Lantern would be DC/WB's answer to Iron Man. I didn't know they would take that literally as far as the trailer goes. :hehe:

[ObakeTora]

I was hoping that DC would go on the strength of their originality, and yes we got something recycled, DC presents Ironman the DC version! Oh the agony. I was really hoping for something epic and jaw dropping, instead we get something rushed. I hope it's just the case that the cgi needs more time but if thats so, why not bleepin wait until the cgi is perfect and then release the trailer!? Am I missing something? How far away is the Harry Potter studio on the WB lot? Why can't they use those special fx, in my opinion would make for a kick ass Justice League film? Green Lantern with the huge fan base should warrant something original. Not a Reynolds vehicle.

[ObakeTora]

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[ObakeTora]

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[Parker Wayne]

I was hoping that DC would go on the strength of their originality, and yes we got something recycled, DC presents Ironman the DC version! Oh the agony.

I'm reserving judgement until I see a second trailer for it. Hopefully, that uses a different, more satisfying feel to it. I'm not a fan of rock music in trailers. It makes it look to typical.

I hope the next trailer uses a more epic, orchestral feel to it. Market it as a space sci-fi film.


I was really hoping for something epic and jaw dropping, instead we get something rushed. I hope it's just the case that the cgi needs more time but if thats so, why not bleepin wait until the cgi is perfect and then release the trailer!?

They wanted to capitalize on the fact that HP would be one of the biggest money makers for WB. It'sgreat timing.


Am I missing something? How far away is the Harry Potter studio on the WB lot? Why can't they use those special fx, in my opinion would make for a kick ass Justice League film? Green Lantern with the huge fan base should warrant something original. Not a Reynolds vehicle.

I'm still in the torn about the trailer. I like the special effects and don't mind the comedy, but at the same time I don't want it too much humor. I don't mind humor, but I hope its not forced.

The CGI on Reynolds looks a hell of lot better in theaters but needs work. MY gut feeling is that I don't the CGI will be the problem release day.

[jmc]

Who didn't get an Iron Man vibe while watching the trailer? It's obvious thats the vibe they wanted to give out.

WB shouldn't be surprised at the flack it's getting if that was the intention.

[Parker Wayne]

I hope WB is paying attention to the reaction of the trailer.

[jmc]

I think the rush to get this attached to HP may have been the biggest factor in all this. I think it would have paid to have waited a bit to ensure it all worked a bit better.

[Parker Wayne]

Definitely. One thing WB loves doing is attaching their tentpole films to their other tentpole films.

They would'nt have to many chances to do that after HP or December. January to March is usually a dead period for big budget films.

[jmc]

I don't recall The Dark Knight being attached to anything major.

[Octoberist]

I am Legend.

[Ipodman]

I assume the regular guy in the theater is gonna be like "Oh ok... ANOTHER superhero movie... yawn. Heath Ledger Joker is the best"

[Bruce_Begins]

I think that some of the general public will think that it is a Marvel Comics based movie (those who have not seen the trailer ) as WB/ DC makes only Superman / Batman movies, so their rection will be like, okay another Marvel hero comes to big screen, Yaawn.

[Ipodman]

The only superhero movie that will excite the general public at this point of time is Batman 3, I mean The Dark Knight Rises

[protocida]

This thread is seriously depressing.

[JAK®]

I've noticed that when a comic book movie featuring a superhero that hasn't been adapted before is about to be released, it is almost always said to look bad. If it is actually good when it comes out everybody will love it unconditionally. And the sequel will receive nothing but praise before release (if the sequel is bad then the whole franchise becomes bad)

[Doctor Jones]

I think it's because we don't want to disapointed so we set our expectations low. I do it alot myself. I don't blame them, because we've learned our lessons when we get too exicted about something.

[Troy_Parker]

What does Hal say when he's sat in the suit, next to that girl (don't know her name, not a huge fan :P) "Anything I see in my mind, I can create?"

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I don't recall The Dark Knight being attached to anything major.
Hancock

[Doctor Jones]

So possibly we'll see a TDKR teaser with GL? Or we could have to wait until later summer. I think we'll definitely see something with Sherlock Holmes 2.

[I Am The Knight]

Hal seems to have bits of the same story arc that Stark was still going through in Iron Man 1.5. The similarities stop there.

Obviously, the tone will be somewhat similar, but surely you all realize how silly a complaint this really is.

[jmc]

I think that some of the general public will think that it is a Marvel Comics based movie (those who have not seen the trailer ) as WB/ DC makes only Superman / Batman movies, so their rection will be like, okay another Marvel hero comes to big screen, Yaawn.

Joe average doesn't no any difference and really couldn't give a flying crap who owns the character.

[solidsnake86]

So possibly we'll see a TDKR teaser with GL? Or we could have to wait until later summer. I think we'll definitely see something with Sherlock Holmes 2.

I don't think we'll see anything, everyone knows batman 3 is coming and I don't think they're going to waste there time to put together a trailer with voice overs like they did with the dark knights teaser (especially because the villain will not be known like the joker). Especially with the way nolan has said he hates showing footage that isn't ready to be shown I think WB will give him the benefit of the doubt. That said they may very well just throw up a logo and everyone will go crazy.

[solidsnake86]

They would have been better off showing very little, leaving out the costume and just have it end with him saying the oath and I bet everyone on here would be praising it.

[solidsnake86]

They would have been better off showing very little, leaving out the costume and just have it end with him saying the oath and I bet everyone on here would be praising it.

[S.A.A.D.]

Leave out the costume? :doh:

Why? There were shots of it in the trailer where it looked pretty good.

[I Am The Knight]

They tried that at Comic-Con and it didn't go over very well. It was about time they showed something MOAR. People cannot make up their minds: it's either "It wasn't WOW enough!" or "They showed too much, it should be like Batman Begins, a 2 minute voiceover and a picture of the costume at the end!"

[Octoberist]

But at Comic Con, they didn't show the costume at all.

[jmc]

They tried that at Comic-Con and it didn't go over very well. It was about time they showed something MOAR. People cannot make up their minds: it's either ''It wasn't WOW enough!'' or ''They showed too much, it should be like Batman Begins, a 2 minute voiceover and a picture of the costume at the end!''

I think it's a case of they showed too much of the wrong things, not so much they showed to much. It's what they didn't show that's the issue, ie, the ring making more constructs, it's the one thing that sets GL apart from all other superheroes and we only get a fleeting glimpse of it.

[Parker Wayne]

I think it's because we don't want to disapointed so we set our expectations low. I do it alot myself. I don't blame them, because we've learned our lessons when we get too exicted about something.

Everyone learned that lesson after Spider-man 3. :csad:

[S.A.A.D.]

Especially Venom fans,I was looking forward to seeing him the most in the movie but what we got instead was a really lame version of him.

[Doctor Jones]

Everyone learned that lesson after Spider-man 3. :csad:

Pretty much. And we kind of should have after X3 too. Although maybe with Ratner attached we weren't thinking much of it. I wasn't around here at the time anyway.

[RachelDawes]

I think it's a case of they showed too much of the wrong things, not so much they showed to much. It's what they didn't show that's the issue, ie, the ring making more constructs, it's the one thing that sets GL apart from all other superheroes and we only get a fleeting glimpse of it.

Plus the stuff that they showed didn't always look good, like Blake Lively's acting and some of the IM humor. I know I didn't care for the Earth scenes in the trailer, though the space scenes were really cool.

[Octoberist]

They needed to show more of the earth scenes (for better or for worse) to set up that Hal is:

a.) Rebellious. Not because he's late for his flight but he doesn't want to follow the rules. Maybe they should have included him being 'grounded' after his reckless stunt.

b.) He is not where he should be in life. Something is missing in his life and I think this is the point that the trailer missed out on.

And from there, build it up to Abin's arrival.

People can argue that the trailer already does that, but I think the execution is off. You don't get the notion that Hal is just a normal guy given an extraorginary task to protect the universe.

[S.A.A.D.]

He seemed average to me in the trailer. He's suppose to be normal before he get's the power ring if you ask me.

[Octoberist]

the problem is that it's going through the motions. You get the idea, but to me, it was handled properly. I know it's only a trailer but heck, even the Green Hornet's first trailer, you can a better idea of how Seth Rogen has to straighten up.

[I Am The Knight]

I think it's a case of they showed too much of the wrong things, not so much they showed to much. It's what they didn't show that's the issue, ie, the ring making more constructs, it's the one thing that sets GL apart from all other superheroes and we only get a fleeting glimpse of it.

Right, but how many big screen superhero adaptations are also set in space? Big chunks of the trailer were devoted to establish the space setting. I too would have loved to see more than the classic giant fist construct, but this doesn't look quite like anything we have seen before in regards to superhero fare. It really is more sci-fi-ish than anything else. I mean sure, he wears a costume and domino mask, but they are not gonna change that...

[jmc]

Right, but how many big screen superhero adaptations are also set in space? Big chunks of the trailer were devoted to establish the space setting. I too would have loved to see more than the classic giant fist construct, but this doesn't look quite like anything we have seen before in regards to superhero fare. It really is more sci-fi-ish than anything else. I mean sure, he wears a costume and domino mask, but they are not gonna change that...

But there needs to be more than change of setting to convince people there's more to the charcter, the character itself needs to stand out against everything before it. GL has that in what the ring can do, yet we saw a fraction of it.

[mcallima]

But there needs to be more than change of setting to convince people there's more to the charcter, the character itself needs to stand out against everything before it. GL has that in what the ring can do, yet we saw a fraction of it.

So what would you have liked to see? Surely a trailer filled with nothing but constructs would spoil the joy of being surprised. We got to see two ring constructs, Hal glowing/flying, and Hal telling Carol that the ring lets him create anything. That's enough for a trailer, no?

[jmc]

So what would you have liked to see? Surely a trailer filled with nothing but constructs would spoil the joy of being surprised. We got to see two ring constructs, Hal glowing/flying, and Hal telling Carol that the ring lets him create anything. That's enough for a trailer, no?

No, because the balance was off. Don't make the assumption I'm talking about littering the trailer with constructs, we only got one that lasted all of 3 seconds, we needed more to get across to the masses what the character can do.

[Darkness Falls]

doesn't the quote
"anything i see in my mind i can create" convey what he can do ?

[dnno1]

No, because the balance was off. Don't make the assumption I'm talking about littering the trailer with constructs, we only got one that lasted all of 3 seconds, we needed more to get across to the masses what the character can do.

That's why this was a teaser. They didn't show how really strong the Hulk was in (Ang Lee's) "Hulk" first teaser trailer. They just showed a bathroom sink flying through a wall. Later on they showed a trailer where he heaved an M1 Abrams tank over the horizon (in the Superbowl spot). It's the same case with "Green Lantern". They show him creating a fist as a teaser, but I expect to see more constructs in later trailers. I also said before that they have not show/revealed the other lanterns (outside of Tomar Re, Kilowog, and Sinestro), the Guardians, Krona, or Parallax, which could be shown in future trailers. It isn't fair to expect them to show their entire hand when they are trying to tease you into coming to see the film next summer.

[mcallima]

I think I understand where jmc coming from. He would have liked the trailer to revolve entirely around the ring's function, rather than a mix of scenes.

[dnno1]

And that would be akin to divulging all of the goods before we see the movie. I think that the energy constructs are probably one of the best selling points of this film (along the other more than 1000 SfX's in this picture) and they are saving the best for later.

[jmc]

I think I understand where jmc coming from. He would have liked the trailer to revolve entirely around the ring's function, rather than a mix of scenes.

Not entirely, just more emphasis on it, that should be the 'wow' factor that gets people talking coz right now reaction is lukewarm at best.

[PreK]

And that would be akin to divulging all of the goods before we see the movie. I think that the energy constructs are probably one of the best selling points of this film (along the other more than 1000 SfX's in this picture) and they are saving the best for later.
Let's hope so. During SRs marketing, I was confused as to how such little action was featured in the trailers. I was naive enough to think, "man Singer is really saving everything for the film!"

:(

[Red Mask]

I think this movie will be more Disneyesque than any future Marvel film. And it won't even feature Dwayne Johnson.

[DarkKnight FTW]

"Too much Iron Man humor"...REALLY?! So on Iron Man can have humor like that (even though its not true in comics)? Hal doesn't joke around like that ever (re-read Secret Origin). I don't know man, seems to be a lot of whining over a teaser...kind of like the Iron Man super bowl spot with the unfinished CGI. A Teaser by definition only gives you the slightest glimpse so no you're not going to fill it with constructs. Already bringing up the entire Superman Returns marketing. This is comical!

[Doc Samson]

"Too much Iron Man humor"...REALLY?! So on Iron Man can have humor like that (even though its not true in comics)? Hal doesn't joke around like that ever (re-read Secret Origin). I don't know man, seems to be a lot of whining over a teaser...kind of like the Iron Man super bowl spot with the unfinished CGI. A Teaser by definition only gives you the slightest glimpse so no you're not going to fill it with constructs. Already bringing up the entire Superman Returns marketing. This is comical!

It's not a teaser, this is a full trailer. It clocks in well over 2 minutes and shows a good amount of actual film footage. It could have been better, and I assume the second one will be, but let's not pretend this was just some feeler they put out there to test the waters. This is a regular trailer

[Doc Samson]

I've noticed that when a comic book movie featuring a superhero that hasn't been adapted before is about to be released, it is almost always said to look bad. If it is actually good when it comes out everybody will love it unconditionally. And the sequel will receive nothing but praise before release (if the sequel is bad then the whole franchise becomes bad)

I'm not sure about this, I think it comes down to the character. Certain superheroes are just easier to adapt then others. As long as Spiderman was sufficient in the CGI department, it's success was a no brainer. It appeals to kids on a few different levels, the action would keep the teens riveted, and the overall theme is wholesome enough to win over parents. Likewise, I didn't think Ironman would fail either, because it has an inherent "cool" factor with the suit that compensates for a lack of quality, we were just lucky enough that the film as a whole was pretty good too.

Green Lantern has that same potential, with the ring and it's ability, but I think that's where the trailer failed. It could be because the constructs just aren't rendered to the point where they want to show it yet, but therein lies the problem. That's the selling point to people not familiar with GL, to see the ring in action and doing fantastic things. Everything else won't matter as much if they don't nail that part, as far as the general audience is concerned.

[Doctor Jones]

I think we're just looking it from the fan perspective and not mainstream. Unlike the mainstream, we scrutinize and analyze every single thing. But to the GA, we haven't seen a comic book film in space or take place on different planets. And the fact Hal gets chosen instead of choosing himself.

[That-Guy]

I can't believe so many of you guys are stressing over the structure of a trailer. Somehow I think I can understand the complaints of the people who just think the movie looks like crap more than the ones who think it looks okay but want to rip apart the trailer because they showed too much of this and too little of that.

I get that the general public isn't that familiar with Green Lantern but how do we, as comic book fans, really know what specifically is going to "grab" them in a trailer? We all have our opinions but none of us really know if adding more of one thing and less of another is going to make non-comic book fans want to see a movie more. The complaints about the music, for example, really floor me. I think I've seen 20 people on here complain about "that weird rock music" in the beginning. WTF? Were you expecting a waltz? Maybe a polka? And then the epic music "wasn't epic enough." Newsflash... most of the music in movie trailers is never actually used in the movie, so I think you can rest easy for now.

[Doc Samson]

I can't believe so many of you guys are stressing over the structure of a trailer. Somehow I think I can understand the complaints of the people who just think the movie looks like crap more than the ones who think it looks okay but want to rip apart the trailer because they showed too much of this and too little of that.

I get that the general public isn't that familiar with Green Lantern but how do we, as comic book fans, really know what specifically is going to "grab" them in a trailer? We all have our opinions but none of us really know if adding more of one thing and less of another is going to make non-comic book fans want to see a movie more. The complaints about the music, for example, really floor me. I think I've seen 20 people on here complain about "that weird rock music" in the beginning. WTF? Were you expecting a waltz? Maybe a polka? And then the epic music "wasn't epic enough." Newsflash... most of the music in movie trailers is never actually used in the movie, so I think you can rest easy for now.

You could say that, and I agree to a small extent, but if you've seen enough movies in a theater, you pretty much know what will get the audience excited for any type of action movie. Moreover, I think for a new superhero, in this day and age with so many coming each year, you need to display what makes this particular guy unique.

Regardless of how you feel about The Matrix Reloaded, that first trailer was just well constructed, whether you had a cursory knowledge of the plot or not. It showed exciting things, and each time I saw it in a theater full of people, it got the same reaction.

Minus the "punch" you really don't see the ring doing anything of note, at least in terms of constructs or things of that nature, and like I said previously this could very well be because it's just not finished yet, which I'm completely understanding of. But because of that, the trailer isn't as strong as it could be. I don't think anyone is saying the movie is terrible just because of the trailer (at least nobody with any sense) but being that this is a thread talking about the trailer, I don't think it's out of line to discuss the merits of it, good or bad

[dnno1]

"Too much Iron Man humor"...REALLY?! So on Iron Man can have humor like that (even though its not true in comics)? Hal doesn't joke around like that ever (re-read Secret Origin). I don't know man, seems to be a lot of whining over a teaser...kind of like the Iron Man super bowl spot with the unfinished CGI. A Teaser by definition only gives you the slightest glimpse so no you're not going to fill it with constructs. Already bringing up the entire Superman Returns marketing. This is comical!

I don't know...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Green%20Lantern/Secretorigins1.png

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Green%20Lantern/Secretorigins2.png

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/dnno1/Green%20Lantern/Secretorigins3.png
(From Green Lantern Secret Origin)

[RachelDawes]

"Too much Iron Man humor"...REALLY?! So on Iron Man can have humor like that (even though its not true in comics)? Hal doesn't joke around like that ever (re-read Secret Origin). I don't know man, seems to be a lot of whining over a teaser...kind of like the Iron Man super bowl spot with the unfinished CGI. A Teaser by definition only gives you the slightest glimpse so no you're not going to fill it with constructs. Already bringing up the entire Superman Returns marketing. This is comical!

My complaint's got nothing to do with the fact that IM comics aren't really that funny, and GL comics are. It's just that IM got there first so it looks like GL's ripping him off.

[dnno1]

It's not a teaser, this is a full trailer. It clocks in well over 2 minutes and shows a good amount of actual film footage. It could have been better, and I assume the second one will be, but let's not pretend this was just some feeler they put out there to test the waters. This is a regular trailer

No space battles, no Guardians, no other lanterns outside of Sinestro, Tomar Re, and Kilowog. Definitely no Parallax and only one construct. This trailer might have told us what most of us already have known for decades now, but it has yet to tell us the jucy contents of the film. Thus, it is a teaser.

[The Riddler]

it is a long teaser; about 30 seconds longer than usual, but it's definitely a teaser.

[Doc Samson]

No space battles, no Guardians, no other lanterns outside of Sinestro, Tomar Re, and Kilowog. Definitely no Parallax and only one construct. This trailer might have told us what most of us already have known for decades now, but it has yet to tell us the jucy contents of the film. Thus, it is a teaser.

it is a long teaser; about 30 seconds longer than usual, but it's definitely a teaser.

I'll have to respectfully disagree fellas. Ang Lee's Hulk, when Banner transforms in the bathroom is a teaser. Spiderman's first look, with the helicopter and the Twin Towers, was a teaser. TDK with just the Bat symbol and some voice overs, was a teaser. Star Trek showing the Enterprise under construction with music, was a teaser.

Anything with footage not in the actual movie, or minimal usage of voice overs or quick clips, is considered a teaser. This is the first full trailer, I really don't see how it could be disputed

[dnno1]

I'll have to respectfully disagree fellas. Ang Lee's Hulk, when Banner transforms in the bathroom is a teaser. Spiderman's first look, with the helicopter and the Twin Towers, was a teaser. TDK with just the Bat symbol and some voice overs, was a teaser. Star Trek showing the Enterprise under construction with music, was a teaser.

Anything with footage not in the actual movie, or minimal usage of voice overs or quick clips, is considered a teaser. This is the first full trailer, I really don't see how it could be disputed

Those are not the only way to tease. Like I said before, there was a lot that wasn't covered and what they told us was no suprise. We know threre is more so it is a tease.

[jmc]

Green Lantern has that same potential, with the ring and it's ability, but I think that's where the trailer failed. It could be because the constructs just aren't rendered to the point where they want to show it yet, but therein lies the problem. That's the selling point to people not familiar with GL, to see the ring in action and doing fantastic things. Everything else won't matter as much if they don't nail that part, as far as the general audience is concerned.

Thank you, I was seriously starting to think I was the only one who saw this problem. In retrospect it's a big oversight on WB part to excluded more footage of the ring in action, it could be a case of the FX weren't ready, which makes this trailer all the more poorer. I think a lot of GL fans seem to think it's the space factor is enough to set GL apart from the rest of the superheroes. I'm telling you guys, it's the ring, it's what sets GL apart from every other superhero, but the trailer doesn't show enough of what it can do. I put myself in joe publics shoes and I see a trailer that looks familiar and doesn't show why this particular character is different, and that's because the biggest selling point is missing.

[The Guard]

I think, though, that they covered what it can do. We saw the punch, and he flat out said "Anything I can imagine, I can create".

[Parker Wayne]

Thank you, I was seriously starting to think I was the only one who saw this problem. In retrospect it's a big oversight on WB part to excluded more footage of the ring in action, it could be a case of the FX weren't ready, which makes this trailer all the more poorer. I think a lot of GL fans seem to think it's the space factor is enough to set GL apart from the rest of the superheroes. I'm telling you guys, it's the ring, it's what sets GL apart from every other superhero, but the trailer doesn't show enough of what it can do. I put myself in joe publics shoes and I see a trailer that looks familiar and doesn't show why this particular character is different, and that's because the biggest selling point is missing.

As it was mentioned before, Harry Potter was a big factor in rushing a trailer. The mask in the apartment scene didn't even look as thin as it did on the E.T. cover, which makes think its unfinished.

[dnno1]

Thank you, I was seriously starting to think I was the only one who saw this problem. In retrospect it's a big oversight on WB part to excluded more footage of the ring in action, it could be a case of the FX weren't ready, which makes this trailer all the more poorer. I think a lot of GL fans seem to think it's the space factor is enough to set GL apart from the rest of the superheroes. I'm telling you guys, it's the ring, it's what sets GL apart from every other superhero, but the trailer doesn't show enough of what it can do. I put myself in joe publics shoes and I see a trailer that looks familiar and doesn't show why this particular character is different, and that's because the biggest selling point is missing.

I think, though, that they covered what it can do. We saw the punch, and he flat out said "Anything I can imagine, I can create".

They are not showing their whole hand yet, but rather saving the best for later. Wait til the Superbowl spot shows.

[S.A.A.D.]

I'd like the power ring to show a bit more than people would like,I mean it's not just limited to flying,constructs,and a suit made out of green energy. It'd be cool to see a sneak peak at thought relay and how there is a world in the power ring(assuming if the movie version of the power ring even goe's that far), and of course one of the side affects,wether it's good or bad. The movie absolutely must emphasis that the power ring needs willpower and imagination to work,if it doesn't seem to get the job done from some stand point,I'll be pretty disappointed. I just don't have much faith in the general audience when it comes to them picking up on things in comic book movies.

[jmc]

I think, though, that they covered what it can do. We saw the punch, and he flat out said ''Anything I can imagine, I can create''.

But it's kinda vague in what it's referring to for the average person because of how brief it is. We know what he's referring to but it needed to be defined a bit better in footage. I think a few more shots of the rings doing what it could have done would have given the trailer the 'wow' factor it was missing.

[dnno1]

I think, though, that they covered what it can do. We saw the punch, and he flat out said "Anything I can imagine, I can create".

But it's kinda vague in what it's referring to for the average person because of how brief it is. We know what he's referring to but it needed to be defined a bit better in footage. I think a few more shots of the rings doing what it could have done would have given the trailer the 'wow' factor it was missing.

When a guy says "Anything I can imagine, I can create" and then displays that power by generating a giant fist out of green energy and blowing away three big gorillias, that is kind of self explanatory and not vague at all. You also saw Hal, Tomar Re, and Sinestro using the ring to fly several times in that clip as well as Abin Sur using it to phase through the walls of an escape pod. You need to watch the video again, jmc.

[jmc]

Believe whatever you want to believe then, there's a reason this trailer is getting mix reaction, it's primary wow factor is missing.

[dnno1]

Believe whatever you want to believe then, there's a reason this trailer is getting mix reaction, it's primary wow factor is missing.


Actually it is because there is a small minority that doesn't what to see it succeed and take pride in derailing these projects with baseless criticism. I don't see where you can come off legitimately saying that it is getting mixed reaction when there is only a hand full of users making negative comments. For that matter I have yet to see a poll online that doesn't say that a majority either like or want to see this film and I challenge you to produce data that shows otherwise.

[TheComicbookKid]

Actually it is because there is a small minority that doesn't what to see it succeed and take pride in derailing these projects with baseless criticism.


What are these projects?

[I Am The Knight]

The incessant b****ing is amusing. There is a reason I left the Hype for about a year and a half.

[dnno1]

What are these projects?

Justice League: Mortal, that was one of them. Of course, there is this one ("Green Lantern") and there are a few others as well.

[Bboy]

Trailer gets a thumbs up from me. I dug it. Excited for the flick.

[Brian Braddock]

The incessant b****ing is amusing. There is a reason I left the Hype for about a year and a half.

Yeah, amusing. Or that other word that sounds like amusing, you know - 'tedious'. :dry:

I guess I must be in the same kind of place that you were before your year and a half hiatus because this place is more and more of a drag every time I log on. Some people would argue that night was day on these boards for no other reason than just purely to disagree with someone.

[Steyin]

I'll have to respectfully disagree fellas. Ang Lee's Hulk, when Banner transforms in the bathroom is a teaser. Spiderman's first look, with the helicopter and the Twin Towers, was a teaser. TDK with just the Bat symbol and some voice overs, was a teaser. Star Trek showing the Enterprise under construction with music, was a teaser.

Anything with footage not in the actual movie, or minimal usage of voice overs or quick clips, is considered a teaser. This is the first full trailer, I really don't see how it could be disputed

I agree.

[dnno1]

Tron version of the trailer:

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[GhostPoet]

The more I see the trailer, the more I like it. I think it covered all the basics without revealing too much. I HATE trailers that show what the main bad guy looks like or reveals important plot information.

[Mondragon]

This new edit First Flight themed one isn't bad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZ01UIrNNU

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, amusing. Or that other word that sounds like amusing, you know - 'tedious'. :dry:

I guess I must be in the same kind of place that you were before your year and a half hiatus because this place is more and more of a drag every time I log on. Some people would argue that night was day on these boards for no other reason than just purely to disagree with someone.

My absence had to do mostly with a growing frustration with the Superman boards... Just people b****ing all the time about the silliest things. Oh well.... Here we go again ... :o

[dnno1]

This new edit First Flight themed one isn't bad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZ01UIrNNU

I'll give the guy credit for his editing skills, but it's just a different take on how to make a trailer -- not necessarily better. I noticed how he/she conveniently edited out any of the scenes that had women in the clips. I don't know if this is for some strange or perverted misogynist reason, or if he or she just wanted to follow the actual track of "Green Lantern: First flight" (even then, that trailer has a cameo of Arisia). I am sure that even though some fans would rather see it otherwise, clips of Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Mark Strong, and Peter Sarsgaard were editorially placed in there for contractual reasons let alone the fact that it gives the audience (and in particular fans of the actors) a better idea of who will be in the film.

[Mondragon]

I'll give the guy credit for his editing skills, but it's just a different take on how to make a trailer -- not necessarily better.

Nobody said it was better, it's a fun and yeah slightlly different take on it, that's it, that's why I posted it.


I noticed how he/she conveniently edited out any of the scenes that had women in the clips. I don't know if this is for some strange or perverted misogynist reason, or if he or she just wanted to follow the actual track of "Green Lantern: First flight" (even then, that trailer has a cameo of Arisia).

Wah! I think you’re way over thinking and dragging into your weired head what’s just a quick, fun, fan edit.
The choices are probably a matter of simple timing more then anything, and getting the best action shots. Livley's scenes are mostly non action dialogue. The First Flight trailer had one scene of dialogue which he matched streight forward, and simple. Plus a scream.
And I just checked, he did use a shot of Blake.



I am sure that even though some fans would rather see it otherwise, clips of Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Mark Strong, and Peter Sarsgaard were editorially placed in there for contractual reasons let alone the fact that it gives the audience (and in particular fans of the actors) a better idea of who will be in the film.

I think


Whatever.

[Cosmic]

I think this movie looks like a winner. I'm somewhat confused about the decision to go with the CGI costume, but the design is mostly faithful, and it looks good, so I'm alright with it. I'm definitely feeling the hype for this one. I wish I could see it in the theater when it comes out.

[jmc]

I actually think it's a logical approach to the costume given how it's created. What the whole 'it's not looking real' crowd seem to forget is that there's no reference for a literal GL costume based on how the suit is made, of course it's gonna look a bit off. Ask yourself this, what does a suit made of light look like? The answer's a pineapple.

[PreK]

Well no, I do think they do have a point of reference for those complaints; the eyes' intuition. It's our greatest asset in judging CGI, because it requires no technical knowledge and instead relies on innate perception.

We might not exactly have a precise comparison for what a "light suit" looks like, but because it's a common property we can absolutely spot what it could conceivably be. No human being actually knows what an actual dinosaur looks like, but it sure as hell did not stop them from being absolutely stunned when Jurassic Park came out.

In any case I think they've already reached the peak of where the sfx should be. The problem is it's not consistent throughout most of the scenes. I think they've nailed the costume here:

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Screenshot2010-11-17at223542.png

Not so much here:

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Screenshot2010-11-17at014828.png

[jmc]

Dinosaurs were reptiles, so we do have a point of reference for Jurassic Park hence why they looked believable (to a point). A suit made of light cannot exist in our world, so the way they've decided to interpret that means we cannot ever trick ourselves into believing it's 100% real, there is no reference to what that looks like and the eye will always detect it because there's nothing tangible about it, the suit is always going to look off no matter how good the CGI. It's like the Na'vi in Avatar, they look like good CG, but they never look real.

[PreK]

Never looked real is pushing it for me. There were quite a few instances in which photorealism was at its finest.

As for 'tangibility', I don't think that's quite accurate. Everyone has seen it in all its forms so it isn't entirely an abstract concept. It just takes a tad bit of an imagination to conceive what a light construct could/would look like.

I think the most disconcerting issue lies on the suit's appearance in relation to the concept. Light (as we see it) doesn't have any (of its own), so when the creative team has taken liberties to reimagine those properties, it clashes with our preconceptions of what it "should" look like. Upon closer examination there isn't much of a disparity between the good and bad shots in the trailer. At least in terms of material rendering. It's the brightness that mucks it all up. In the first screencap above, the suit blends in well with the environment and actors. The complete opposite effect occurs in the second. Distinguishable elements from real-world imagery is the primary associative trait of fake cgi. The suit's vibrancy throws everything off instantly. I think that's where the blunt of criticism actually falls, rather than the craftsmanship of the cgi itself.

[JAK®]

Yeah, some people can't get past the fact that they are watching something they know doesn't exist, no matter how realistic the CGI actually is. It happened with the first Hulk.

[ultimatefan]

I actually think it's a logical approach to the costume given how it's created. What the whole 'it's not looking real' crowd seem to forget is that there's no reference for a literal GL costume based on how the suit is made, of course it's gonna look a bit off. Ask yourself this, what does a suit made of light look like? The answer's a pineapple.

Exactly, it´s like when people complain that Spidey´s acrobatics never looked really photorealistic, which will never happen simply cuz no human being can actually move like that.

[ultimatefan]

Dinosaurs were reptiles, so we do have a point of reference for Jurassic Park hence why they looked believable (to a point). A suit made of light cannot exist in our world, so the way they've decided to interpret that means we cannot ever trick ourselves into believing it's 100% real, there is no reference to what that looks like and the eye will always detect it because there's nothing tangible about it, the suit is always going to look off no matter how good the CGI. It's like the Na'vi in Avatar, they look like good CG, but they never look real.

Yeah, I´m getting tired of people always bringing up JP and forgetting that dinosaurs were real, there´s a lot of reference from scientific research and even some modern animals offer reference to how they looked and moved. If they were super dinosaurs who could a lot faster, or alien dinosaurs made of light, it would have looked different.

[Brian Braddock]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Screenshot2010-11-17at014828.png

I guess I must be in the minority that thinks the CG looks fine in the above - cant see anything wrong with it. In fact, when watching it in motion I love the fact that it moves, expands and contracts just like Ryan's muscles, sinews and fibres do, especially in the pec and delt area.

All we've ever heard for years is how comicbook costumes dont ever seem to feature the definition/cuts with which they are drawn in the comics - we finally get one and it gets ripped (no pun intended) to shreds by some; so in that regard, I'm currently struggling to understand the criticism of it, to be honest.

[jmc]

Never looked real is pushing it for me. There were quite a few instances in which photorealism was at its finest.

As for 'tangibility', I don't think that's quite accurate. Everyone has seen it in all its forms so it isn't entirely an abstract concept. It just takes a tad bit of an imagination to conceive what a light construct could/would look like.
A suit made of light acting almost like a second skin is a very abstract concept, in fact it doesn't get much more abstract than that in terms of costuming. With no real life reference tangibility does become an issue for a CG suit designed in the way it has been and it's why people are blowing up about it looking fake or action figure like, and that's because the concept can't exist and we're all picking up on it. If it was a CG suit that looked like regular material it'd probably blend in better and complaints would probably minimal. Biggest losers are the Cosplayers out there, good luck trying to make costumes based off this film guys. :woot:
I think the most disconcerting issue lies on the suit's appearance in relation to the concept. Light (as we see it) doesn't have any (of its own), so when the creative team has taken liberties to reimagine those properties, it clashes with our preconceptions of what it ''should'' look like. Upon closer examination there isn't much of a disparity between the good and bad shots in the trailer. At least in terms of material rendering. It's the brightness that mucks it all up. In the first screencap above, the suit blends in well with the environment and actors. The complete opposite effect occurs in the second. Distinguishable elements from real-world imagery is the primary associative trait of fake cgi. The suit's vibrancy throws everything off instantly. I think that's where the blunt of criticism actually falls, rather than the craftsmanship of the cgi itself.

Yeah it blends in well enough, but again it's never going to be seamless, it's always going to look 'off' because of the nature of how the suit is structured, the human eye will pick it up because it's very good a seeing something strange or out of place. One of the first things you learn in art class is the human eye is very good at noticing when something isn't right, same principles apply to CGI, probably more so, and it's why some people have got their knickers in a twist, it's not that the CG is bad, it's because their brains are telling them something isn't quite right with the suit and will continue to do so. It's really a subconscious thing but they don't know it, they simply blame the CG rendering as being bad when in actual fact it's that lack of real world reference that's throwing the curve ball. The closest thing to the GL suit in real life we have is body paint. Personally I could care either way, I think the suit looks fine enough for the type of film it's trying to be.

[Vile]

I gave the trailer an 8 - I was little scared at first when I heard they were doing a Green Lantern movie...its an easy character to just say, "Ya know what...it would be easier to make it a comedy than a space-traveling saga".

That being said, I was pleasently surprised. I hope this film does well!

[S.A.A.D.]

I think that the right idea materialized,regarding the GL suit. Since the idea of the suit doesn't exist(light becoming a suit) it's not fair to complain about how it looks on the other hand. And about the eyegear,ithe bottom portion of it that's wrong,it looks too thick.

[BH/HHH]

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq282/JAKSaph/Screenshot2010-11-17at014828.png

I guess I must be in the minority that thinks the CG looks fine in the above - cant see anything wrong with it. In fact, when watching it in motion I love the fact that it moves, expands and contracts just like Ryan's muscles, sinews and fibres do, especially in the pec and delt area.

All we've ever heard for years is how comicbook costumes dont ever seem to feature the definition/cuts with which they are drawn in the comics - we finally get one and it gets ripped (no pun intended) to shreds by some; so in that regard, I'm currently struggling to understand the criticism of it, to be honest.

:up: agreed

[hatebox]

As it currently is, the costume gives the paradoxical effect that it exists in the film's universe and Reynolds' head is actually the entity that has been super-imposed onto the screen.

More SFX work needed for sure. The mask looks terrible especially.

[Bboy]

Haha. You guys are way, way, waaaay too picky. I think the costume is good.

[Infinity9999x]

Never looked real is pushing it for me. There were quite a few instances in which photorealism was at its finest.



Whenever they were next to a real person they never looked real. Those were the weakest moments in the film for me. But I don't fault them. It's real hard to pull that off well. And they weren't bad.

[Excelsior.]

Whenever they were next to a real person they never looked real.

http://a5.typepad.com/6a0120a7e55e7c970b0134801b5e55970c-pi

[JAK®]

That's pretty seamless. The only reason that someone can think that looks fake is if they can't get past the fact that she's a 9 foot tall blue cat-woman.

[dnno1]

That's pretty seamless. The only reason that someone can think that looks fake is if they can't get past the fact that she's a 9 foot tall blue cat-woman.

Or they're just lying through their teeth.

[Dark Knight]

Yeah, the GL suits are going to look awesome onscreen.

Can't wait to see the finished product, since they would have had plenty of time to work on and polish up the post production SFX and CGI.

[Infinity9999x]

http://a5.typepad.com/6a0120a7e55e7c970b0134801b5e55970c-pi


That's actually pretty good. The shots I were thinking about were when they were carrying Sigorney's character to the tree. They looked much more cartoony in that scene next to Sigorney.

[I Am The Knight]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks that looks fake as all hell :o But it looked fine in the theater with Jimbo's 3D thingys on, so I'm guessing it's just the way the shot was captured by Nuffy.

[HighFivingMF]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks that looks fake as all hell :o But it looked fine in the theater with Jimbo's 3D thingys on, so I'm guessing it's just the way the shot was captured by Nuffy.
It does look Photoshop'd through a lot of it, the leg looks flawless though.

[Spider-Bat]

:hal: I am still amazed at this trailer every time I see it!

It is so good to see Comic books come to life now.

If it had been made in 2000 he'd be wearing a black leather suit with only a green ring and maybe a green logo. Ever since Ironman they've shown you can still have a colorful costume and it'll still look cool.

Finally comc movies made for fans and based on the source material.

I think GL will be DC's IronMan.

[Octoberist]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks that looks fake as all hell :o But it looked fine in the theater with Jimbo's 3D thingys on, so I'm guessing it's just the way the shot was captured by Nuffy.

I mean you're not the only one but give them some time. Sony Imageworks and Martin Campbell would be stupid if they don't realized that people are mixed on the suits (thus far) so of course it's a work in progress...I hope. I'm in the camp of "They're still working on the CGI".