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marcvader
09-30-2010, 12:45 PM
So who will lead the Avengers, not should but who will, in the upcoming movie? Will it be Fury, Iron Man, Captain America, or by committee?

hugekent
10-02-2010, 08:54 AM
Iron Man, and I have no problem with that. I think as the film goes on Captain America will slowly assert his authority and be seen on the same level as IM by the end. How Evans portrays this I'm not sure, but I have faith.

Iron_Stark
10-02-2010, 12:18 PM
Avengers is gonna be great except for one thing,how much screen time will all the heroes get considering there is Iron man who will dominate every scene he is in and what about war machine what part will he exactly play i mean come on.

I doubt War Machine will have any part in it.

Blackman
10-02-2010, 12:21 PM
Cap should. IM probably will

Moridin
10-02-2010, 01:10 PM
I can see Stark leading initially and then over the course of the film Cap proves to be much more able (after much conflict with Stark and maybe Thor who both see themselves as leaders) and he leads The Avengers into the final battle of the film.

Or neither of them lead initially (because Stark as of the end of IM2 isn't responsible enough & Caps just been thawed out after 70 odd years so his physical & mental state is initially unknown & under observation while trying to prove himself) and having to defer to a seasoned agent, maybe Black Widow. But of course that becomes a mess with no one wanting to listen to her, each thinking it should be them.
Cap eventually proves himself more than able and leads the team in the final battle.

Or Stark succums to alcoholism, Cap's penis brakes off when he's being thawed out leaving him feeling emasculated and incredibly insecure, Thor is humiliated because he looses Mjolnir on an 8 day bender with Stark & Volstagg in Vegas. None are capable of leading the team under the circumstances (& accidental circumcisions). All this makes Hulk angrier than he's ever been before, so angry he needs to sit down but accidentally sits on Black Widow, killing her instantly. This sends Hulk into an angry depression & he grows his hair out & starts listening to Emo music.
Loki dies of laughter.

chiefchirpa
10-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Cap.

Didn't you guys remember Fury don't want Stark anywhere near the Avengers at the end of IM 2? IM will assist the Avengers, but he won't be permanent in the team. Similarly I don't think RDJ will be in Avengers 2.

LuisTX85
10-02-2010, 06:29 PM
I can see Stark leading initially and then over the course of the film Cap proves to be much more able (after much conflict with Stark and maybe Thor who both see themselves as leaders) and he leads The Avengers into the final battle of the film.


I think that will happen!,I see Furry doing in for the first mission and then Stark for the rest of the film until the last battle with Capt being it with him officially known as it in the ending.

misjuevos
10-04-2010, 04:59 AM
the way they iron man 2 ended i would say cap will lead. just seemed like fury from his reports knows iron man isn't a leader. he will see and have a very capable soldier in cap

terry78
10-14-2010, 09:37 PM
Give it to Hulk, just to shake things up.

Excelsior.
10-14-2010, 11:43 PM
kevin Feidge will lead.

Ultimate Doom
10-15-2010, 08:55 AM
cap - no contest

Spider-Vader
10-16-2010, 07:00 PM
I think it will start out with Iron Man, but by the end of the movie he will hand the role to Cap.

DCnightwing23
10-24-2010, 02:29 AM
Well we know how Downey portrays Stark, and he's such a cocky smart ass in the first two films that i would have to think IM leads the team.

To be honest it all depends on how well Evans portrays Cap and how well he does opposite a amazing actor like Hugo Weaving as to whether or not he can lead the team in the avengers movie. Especially when Evans is the youngest guy amongst Downey, Jackson, Hemsworth, Renner, etc. So to me it all depends on how he does in his solo film before anyone can say for sure.

And as for Fury, i believe he'll be the one to give them the mission (obviously) and to keep in touch with them via communicators. Mainly the stuff in the background is what i think Fury will be up to, maybe an action scene or two but nothing major just yet. As a matter a fact i believe he'll get more action in the Captain America film as he'll be younger and its set in the war.

Bren
10-24-2010, 06:45 AM
I would really say that Cap should lead. Stark was an effective one-man show in Iron Man (haven't seen 2 yet), but I can't see him being tactically superior to Cap. I agree there will definitely be friction (between ALL of them), but mainly caused by IM and Thor not accepting that this young, underpowered guy (to them) is appointed as their field leader. And maybe Cap not really wanting it?

In time for the final fight, they'll have acknowledged his superior leadership skills, and he'll have fully accepted the responsibility.

In short, I'd have him leading the team from the start.

marcvader
10-24-2010, 07:46 AM
Cap is considered the ultimate leader and not having him portrayed as such would be a shame.

chiefchirpa
10-24-2010, 10:41 AM
I would really say that Cap should lead. Stark was an effective one-man show in Iron Man (haven't seen 2 yet), but I can't see him being tactically superior to Cap. I agree there will definitely be friction (between ALL of them), but mainly caused by IM and Thor not accepting that this young, underpowered guy (to them) is appointed as their field leader. And maybe Cap not really wanting it?

In time for the final fight, they'll have acknowledged his superior leadership skills, and he'll have fully accepted the responsibility.

In short, I'd have him leading the team from the start.

Being the superhero equivalent of swiss army knife Iron Man is a lone wolf character and I don't believe with RDJ's advance age and multiple film commitments RDJ will tag along for Avengers 2. So the best thing in Avengers is to make Tony Stark as a tech consultant of the Avengers, foregoing team responsibility and total team attachment. By Avengers 2 Iron Man role as the brain is going to be given either to Hank Pym/Ant Man or T'Challa/Black Panther, until they decide to reboot with a younger guy as Tony Stark. Chris Evans Steve Rogers is in for a longer stay so by preference it's best to establish the more permanent character as the standard.

Anyhow this doesn't mean that Tony Stark can't be the most interesting hero among the Avengers. He's the comedian & brain of the team. If Kang is the big bad wolf, mind play is in order and this is where Tony shine.

In short, I agree Cap should lead from the start. Tony barges in the middle for leadership, seeing himself forever irresponsible to a team endeavor he gives leadership to Cap. Still he'd bring toys or some erratic strategies helping the final fight.

Hound55
10-24-2010, 10:53 AM
I'd like to see Cap thrust into the leadership role of the team, with subtextual hints that they're attempting to use his goodwill/public reputation to boost the team's image in the public eye in the first one... and in the second one Cap discovers some more nefarious intentions by Fury (or possibly Stark, preferably Fury).

The Caped Knight
11-13-2010, 10:06 PM
So who will lead the Avengers, not should but who will, in the upcoming movie? Will it be Fury, Iron Man, Captain America, or by committee?

Their no question that Captain America is and always will be the main lead of the Avengers .:cap:

TikkiEXX
11-14-2010, 02:17 AM
I would really say that Cap should lead. Stark was an effective one-man show in Iron Man (haven't seen 2 yet), but I can't see him being tactically superior to Cap. I agree there will definitely be friction (between ALL of them), but mainly caused by IM and Thor not accepting that this young, underpowered guy (to them) is appointed as their field leader. And maybe Cap not really wanting it?

In time for the final fight, they'll have acknowledged his superior leadership skills, and he'll have fully accepted the responsibility.

In short, I'd have him leading the team from the start.i agree with your point about Cap maybe not wanting to lead at first. think about it, he,ll be pretty fresh out of the ice unless they skip ahead in time a few years. id think hed be still adjusting to modern times and may not feel too comfortable being the leader at first. but id imagine by the end of the movie he,ll be ready to go. but until then i see Fury actually running things and maybe Tony being a field leader or something and probably managing to screw it up. lol

SPider-T0rch
11-14-2010, 11:49 AM
I've never liked the idea of Iron Man leading the Avengers. If anything, I'd like to see a leadership struggle between Iron Man and Cap like Kirk and Spock.

Dark Raven
11-14-2010, 08:26 PM
I've never liked the idea of Iron Man leading the Avengers. If anything, I'd like to see a leadership struggle between Iron Man and Cap like Kirk and Spock.

Except that if anyone is like Kirk, it's Tony Stark. Cap's leadership style and tactical approach is more like Spock.

Matt Mortem
11-21-2010, 12:59 AM
In the film I foresee Fury "leading" and Cap being a field commander. I see Stark as the guy that just won't listen to either of them. Let's face it, the IM we were given in the films thus far is a cocky, arrogant guy. I don't see him giving nor taking orders very well

Doctor Jones
11-21-2010, 08:52 AM
Tony will think he is the leader first and could think Cap is some relic who isn't fit to lead the team. Along with Cap. He'll initially think he's out of place in this world and that he's let his country down for being away for so long. Then eventually he'll clash with Stark. And then he'll be the leader and Stark and Rogers will come to respect eachother.

Basically like Kirk and Spock of ST but that's perfectly fine with me. But Cap is the true leader. This is the thing I'm most excited about the film.

chiefchirpa
11-21-2010, 09:29 PM
I don't think movie Tony Stark ever leads in last movies, company-wise as CEO or being Iron Man. He's an eccentric lone wolf and prefer it to be like so.

So making him suddenly on a power trip is a bit jarring.

Dark Raven
11-22-2010, 04:57 AM
Tony will think he is the leader first and could think Cap is some relic who isn't fit to lead the team. Along with Cap. He'll initially think he's out of place in this world and that he's let his country down for being away for so long. Then eventually he'll clash with Stark. And then he'll be the leader and Stark and Rogers will come to respect eachother.

Basically like Kirk and Spock of ST but that's perfectly fine with me. But Cap is the true leader. This is the thing I'm most excited about the film.

Except that if anyone is like Kirk, it's Tony Stark. Cap's leadership style and tactical approach is more like Spock.

SPider-T0rch
11-22-2010, 10:46 AM
Except that if anyone is like Kirk, it's Tony Stark. Cap's leadership style and tactical approach is more like Spock.
I'm pretty sure they mean a power struggle SIMILAR to Kirk and Spock, not exactly like them in terms of personality traits.

Doctor Jones
11-22-2010, 04:24 PM
No, I can see it in that way too. Kirk is the bad boy who disagrees with traditional Spock.

That's as far as it goes though, other than the fact both pairs of guys are from completely different places and have completely different ideals.

BicyclMan
12-02-2010, 01:18 AM
Cap should lead. Iron Man should be like a "co-Leader" or something.

At the end of IM2, Nick Fury said that can use Stark as a CONSULTANT.

Tony Stark
12-06-2010, 10:46 AM
I really like the way they have things setup in the Avengers animated series, because Iron Man is leading but of course he's wet behind the ears when it comes to leading things, including Stark Industries. That's the perfect portrayal for the movie.

I don't think having Tony lead is as out of left field as having Wolverine lead the X-men as he did in X3. Tony has always been a key figure in Avengers and was a founding memeber (Cap was not).

But I think the best way to look at this, as some one mentioned is like Star Trek with Kirk, Spoc and Bones. All three leading characters.

storyteller
12-10-2010, 10:02 PM
I gotta say I think its ridicules to think that RDJ will be unable to continue the Iron Man role into Avengers 2 because of his age............even if he would be like 51.........The man has a suit that covers his whole body.

Remember that Fury wants Iron man but not Tony due to Tony's recent episodes when faced with death. I think that Fury will probably put Stark on the team when he can prove to be more reliable. But do not think Marvel is going to bench Iron Man!

Darthkush
12-27-2010, 04:26 PM
I've never liked the idea of Iron Man leading the Avengers. If anything, I'd like to see a leadership struggle between Iron Man and Cap like Kirk and Spock.

This is what I assume we'll get. As long as Cap is the leader before the film is over,i'll be happy.

I'm hoping for an power struggle of similar circumstance on the currrent cartoon series as well.

Ultra Lantern
11-29-2011, 04:23 AM
Captain America

Thundercrack85
11-29-2011, 04:28 AM
Captain America wouldn't work, at least not yet. He's a stranger in the modern / futuristic world. Needs time to adjust and take things in.

So, presumably Nick Fury for a while.

I can't see Tony Stark even wanting to be the leader. He will probably be the rebel.

ripse
11-29-2011, 06:12 AM
Captain America of course, because is age more older than the other candidates...so respect him.

Iron_Stark
11-29-2011, 09:02 AM
No one's going to be telling Tony what to do. Just look at the trailer and that little exchange he had with Steve.

He may not lead, but he's not going to be led.

BigThor
11-29-2011, 05:47 PM
There's nothing wrong with being lead, even great leaders know when to follow.

kedrell
11-29-2011, 06:23 PM
Cap is the only one who's automatically a team player already. He's a soldier and used to giving & receiving orders. The other big 3 aren't like that(well Thor obey's Odin as his king, but that's about it). Stark's used to running his own show and one of Hulk's biggest schticks is the whole 'nobody tells me what to do' thing. BW & Hawkeye are more minor players and agents already who are used to being under authority. I think it'll be Fury at first and then after a bunch of inner turmoil between team members, Cap will emerge and the best possible choice to lead.

Terror Inc.
11-29-2011, 08:48 PM
I really REALLY want Cap to lead, but honestly, this is their first movie together and they are all kinda just pulled together to battle a huge threat. Sure they're a team, but not a well established team. I'm betting Fury is gonna lead this thing. I'm praying that by the end though, Cap pulls everyone together to work as a cohesive unit.

BigThor
11-29-2011, 10:21 PM
Yeah I hope Cap turns out to be the leader as the film progresses as well, but I don't want them to beat us over the head with him being in charge.

The Avengers are all fairly experienced heroes, they don't need someone telling them what to do for every little thing.