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Pac-Master
11-13-2010, 08:53 PM
Aronofksy has confirmed that the title will be "The Wolverine".
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/darren-aronofsky-confirms-a-new-title-for-wolverine-2
Thoughts?
icelemt38
11-13-2010, 09:13 PM
This definitely proves they're going a different direction with this and know the issues of the first one and responding to what fans want.
I like it. It's different from the usual 10 word Fox titles.
danoyse
11-13-2010, 09:27 PM
I like it. They probably should have gone that route for the first movie.
DarkKnight88
11-13-2010, 09:48 PM
Makes sense. Wasn't that basically how Wolverine was introduced in the first X-Men movie? The Wolverine!
rashad
11-13-2010, 10:55 PM
I like the fact it's a "one off". Which is what I felt these Wolverine films should've been. Not being dependent on continuity.
Deaths Head II
11-13-2010, 11:26 PM
I like the fact it's a "one off". Which is what I felt these Wolverine films should've been. Not being dependent on continuity.
I would have liked them be dependent on continuity before continuity got so messed up. Now I'm very happy to see some one off films.
As for the title, I'm glad they went with it.
Ipodman
11-13-2010, 11:39 PM
Should have been The Wolverine Rises
Well, its based on a story that's a one off in the comics. I assumed we already knew this film needn't be dependent on continuity.
Superhero 101
11-13-2010, 11:49 PM
Should have been The Wolverine Rises
I think that might be the title for the third Wolvie film:cwink:
Spidey_62
11-14-2010, 12:01 AM
I like it a lot.
darthlaney
11-14-2010, 01:59 AM
My choice:
The Wolverine: Hot Tokyo Nights
Casius--J
11-14-2010, 02:18 AM
I don't like it but its only a title so its not very important.
The Squirrel
11-14-2010, 02:33 AM
The title is fine, the description of the plot sounds rather: zzzzzz :sleepy:
J.Howlett
11-14-2010, 02:39 AM
It maybe a "one off" but that doesn't mean that it won't be in continuity. More than likely, the story won't even cross roads with the established continuity in terms of plot and character interactions.
My vision of the whole thing goes a little like this: Singer's two X-Men films establishes Wolverine's origins via the flashbacks. And this is the "prequel" film that has nothing to do with the X-Men films. I would call it the official "prequel" to the character. We find out about his past in the Singer films....
Either way, "The Wolverine" is a fantastic title.
This is fantastic. Let Darren Aronosfky tell his own story and let him do his own thing with the character. Also, the title is fantastic- The Wolverine is far better than any of the other titles we've seen for comic-book movies recently. Pure and simple.
Finally! A nice, simple title that's effective. I like it.
returntovoid
11-14-2010, 03:23 AM
Cool title. Also, considering it's a one-off, is Jackman reprising his role???
Cool title. Also, considering it's a one-off, is Jackman reprising his role???
Of course. Jackman and Aronosfky worked together for The Fountain, and it was their collaboration that helped solidify Aronosfky getting the director's chair for The Wolverine.
the a1ant
11-14-2010, 04:52 AM
I really like the simplicity of the title and I think the talent involved will make sure this is a great film.
Ipodman
11-14-2010, 06:30 AM
They should do a one-shot Apocalypse story too O.O
narrows101
11-14-2010, 06:44 AM
Makes sense. Wasn't that basically how Wolverine was introduced in the first X-Men movie? The Wolverine!
That's the first thing I thought - that's how he was introduced in the first movie in the boxing ring - the announcer called him "The Wolverine" so I just assumed the title of this movie leads up to how he is called that in the boxing ring.
DCUmoviepage
11-14-2010, 07:52 AM
Well, they want forget the existence of the last movie of all the X-Films continuity, and its is great.Wish luck for Darren and Jackman.
narrows101
11-14-2010, 07:59 AM
Being oblivious to the actual comics, I just assume XMO:W is the first movie introducing everyone to the character. At the end of that after the credits is the bit with him at a bar in Japan. Then I just assume he goes to Japan, hence the new movie. And then in the first XMen, he's in the boxing ring and the announcer introduces him as "The Wolverine" - that's my timeline of the movies anyway.
Meanwhile, a very funny stunt video included in this story about the title, including Hugh's trainer Michael Ryan giving some tips to the host and having him perform some of them, and showing how some of the stunts were done in the movies.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/darren-aronofsky-names-huge-jackmans-x-men-spin-off-the-wolverine/story-e6frewyr-1225953387278
Ipodman
11-14-2010, 08:01 AM
Well, they want forget the existence of the last movie of all the X-Films continuity, and its is great.Wish luck for Darren and Jackman.
I just hope it's a proper Wolverine story and not with so many cameos.
terry78
11-14-2010, 08:19 AM
My choice:
The Wolverine: Hot Tokyo Nights
Obviously it should be The Wolverine: Tokyo Drift. Common sense, people, Jesus.
Considering Fox's track record I was awaiting a title like
X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2: The Wolverine: Japan Edition
I'm glad they went with a simpler, better title. He's been called "The Wolverine" countless times in the comics. And, as many have mentioned, his glorious introduction in X1 as The Wolverine.
Sam Fisher
11-14-2010, 10:24 AM
So is Wolverine 3 gonna be called "The Wolverine Rises"?:hehe:
Retroman
11-14-2010, 10:24 AM
Too much positivity going on this thread....:p
Seriously though, i like the title too - very simple and effective.:up:
It's going to be very intriguing to see how Aronofsky handles a big budget movie under a studio like Fox. In the past he's been close to making Batman, Watchmen and Robocop but non ever panned out for a variety of reasons so this is his first. Also, he's known to really push and challenge the actors in his films so it'll be interesting to see if he can still get the same results even though the scale is bigger.
Doctor Jones
11-14-2010, 10:48 AM
I like it. Thank God that it doesn't have some stupid subtitle.
The "The" makes it weird, but whatever.
Excelsior.
11-14-2010, 11:10 AM
My choice:
The Wolverine: Hot Tokyo Nights
This ain't a porno.
truth
11-14-2010, 11:13 AM
Intriguing.
Honestly, it's the best thing that happened to this franchise.
Still don't like the actor, but if Aranofsky is saying F OFF to the other films, and being as he won't allow Jackman to have creative free-reign and will call the shots...this is one project that I have my eye on
henzINNIT
11-14-2010, 11:51 AM
Fine title, very happy there is no "2" anywhere to be seen :)
Matt Mortem
11-14-2010, 12:30 PM
I like it. Aranofsky is one of my favorite directors. I couldn't be more optimistic
Timstuff
11-14-2010, 12:55 PM
I wonder how many times we're going to hear the word "honah" in this movie?
terry78
11-14-2010, 12:58 PM
And will we be getting the Silver Samurai? If Aronofsky includes him, my interest will skyrocket.
icelemt38
11-14-2010, 12:58 PM
Intriguing.
Honestly, it's the best thing that happened to this franchise.
Still don't like the actor, but if Aranofsky is saying F OFF to the other films, and being as he won't allow Jackman to have creative free-reign and will call the shots...this is one project that I have my eye on
To be fair, had Hugh not been in this, Aronofsky would most likely not be involved. It's their relationship and Hugh approaching Darren that got him on board.
I know your dislike for Hugh in the role, so I'll stop it here.
icelemt38
11-14-2010, 01:00 PM
And will we be getting the Silver Samurai? If Aronofsky includes him, my interest will skyrocket.
Silver Samurai is in the movie.
terry78
11-14-2010, 01:00 PM
I know they confirmed it, then denied it again. Is it definite now?
Nightwing
11-14-2010, 01:09 PM
This is definitely a great step in direction. I love the title, sounds bad ass. And the "one off" comment made me smile. This film has loads of potential.
I know they confirmed it, then denied it again. Is it definite now?
The character/plot details which was released a few weeks ago had him included.
Kenuichio/Samurai: He’s the illegitimate son of Shingen, but Shingen refuses to acknowledge him as an heir. He’s also an expert Samurai, and he attacks Logan several times as a “Silver Samurai” with electrified armor.
GREEN =w= DAY
11-14-2010, 04:04 PM
my anticipation for this movie just grew! i like the fact that it will be a stand alone film and not a direct sequel/correlation to Origins
I know they confirmed it, then denied it again. Is it definite now?
There was a character description leak a few weeks back. Fox had it removed, most likely because it was true.
the a1ant
11-14-2010, 04:48 PM
I wonder if Fox will try and tack on 'X-Men' in the title at the last minute for promo reasons, like with X2/ X-Men United? In the end, X2 was the title used in the actual film.
X-Men Legacy: The Wolverine :p
So is Wolverine 3 gonna be called "The Wolverine Rises"?:hehe:
That or 'Rise of the Wolverine' :hehe:
The character/plot details which was released a few weeks ago had him included.
What? Where?
Nightwing
11-14-2010, 05:22 PM
What? Where?
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=343410
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=343410
lol dunno how I missed that thread
Mrpaul
11-14-2010, 06:47 PM
I remember when they introduced him in the first X-MEN as "The Wolverine", kinda takes me back to that moment
Ipodman
11-14-2010, 07:16 PM
He is the silent guardian... the watchful protector... the Wolverine
Dark Knight
11-14-2010, 09:23 PM
Darren is going to regret working with the evil Tom Rothman and Fox Studios on this one.
His vision will be compromised and it seems to me he did this film for the payday.
bullets
11-14-2010, 10:28 PM
It's a good title . If they allow Aronofsky to do his thing it'll be amazing.
Karelia
11-14-2010, 10:50 PM
I kinda like the title. I'm glad they're trying to not keep this in continuity with XMOW, although I didn't hate the film like most do. I think making this a "one-off" film is a cool idea.
I'm actually pretty excited for this one, and Deadpool. Just don't fox it up. :D
Ipodman
11-14-2010, 11:16 PM
I kinda like the title. I'm glad they're trying to not keep this in continuity with XMOW, although I didn't hate the film like most do. I think making this a "one-off" film is a cool idea.
I'm actually pretty excited for this one, and Deadpool. Just don't fox it up. :D
Probably not gonna happen for awhile...
EliteF50
11-14-2010, 11:46 PM
I love that title. So simple and so epic. I hope the Batman reboot is called "The Batman".
I doubt it'll happen, but it would be great if it were Rated R. Then we'd have the brutal Wolverine from the comics.
He is the silent guardian... the watchful protector... the Wolverine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :up:
louiebling$
11-15-2010, 01:11 AM
The Wolverine? I can Dig it
LostSon88
11-15-2010, 03:37 AM
I kinda figured that this was going to ignore Origins...
I think that this film will very much so work as a standalone movie and wont require viewing the first film to understand it.
aka...if you hated Origins, simply consider this one the first Wolverine movie, lol.
LostSon88
11-15-2010, 03:41 AM
Darren is going to regret working with the evil Tom Rothman and Fox Studios on this one.
His vision will be compromised and it seems to me he did this film for the payday.
If I recall on some reports...he was actually hoping to get the Superman gig.
Crockett
11-15-2010, 04:42 AM
I like the title, thank god they got rid of the "X-Men Origins"'.
Alonsovich
11-15-2010, 05:52 AM
Darren is going to regret working with the evil Tom Rothman and Fox Studios on this one.
His vision will be compromised and it seems to me he did this film for the payday.
I thought he already did The Fountain with them...:huh:
Crockett
11-15-2010, 06:33 AM
I thought he already did The Fountain with them...:huh:
More like half did for them. When the project got the second greenlight it's WB and Fox who co-finance the project.
Now for The Wolverine, I hoping Aronofsky gets a smooth ride during the production of the film, unlike what Hood got with Fox when fighting over the film's direction.
Keyser Soze
11-15-2010, 08:08 AM
The title, and the concept of this being a standalone film, all sounds great to me. To this day I've never seen X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and had zero interest in seeing the sequel. But Darren Aronofsky's involvement single-handedly put this film on my radar. And hearing that it's not going to be beholden to the last prequel and Aronofsky will get to do more of his own thing only ups my anticipation.
Immortalfire
11-15-2010, 08:57 AM
Movie titles nowadays seem to be deliberately trying to be as UN-creative as possible.
Deaths Head II
11-15-2010, 10:13 AM
Simpler is better, IMO.
GoldGoblin
11-15-2010, 12:05 PM
When are they gonna cast a new actor to play Wolverine?
danoyse
11-15-2010, 12:19 PM
Too much positivity going on this thread....:p
Seriously. I thought I was on the wrong forum. :oldrazz:
Seriously though, i like the title too - very simple and effective.:up:
It's going to be very intriguing to see how Aronofsky handles a big budget movie under a studio like Fox. In the past he's been close to making Batman, Watchmen and Robocop but non ever panned out for a variety of reasons so this is his first. Also, he's known to really push and challenge the actors in his films so it'll be interesting to see if he can still get the same results even though the scale is bigger.
Agreed. I'm liking what I'm hearing so far too.
When are they gonna cast a new actor to play Wolverine?
When Hugh Jackman stops playing him.
EliteF50
11-15-2010, 01:06 PM
When are they gonna cast a new actor to play Wolverine?
Why would they do that? They've found the perfect Wolverine, imo. Sure he's not short and doesn't use an overly gruff voice, but his take on the character is much more realistic.
Deaths Head II
11-15-2010, 01:20 PM
Hugh made Wolverine into a leading man type of character, which doesn't suit him at all IMO. But they're not going to replace him until he doesn't want to do the role anymore.
Nightwing
11-15-2010, 01:23 PM
I remember Hugh was asked if Wolverine would appear in the Avengers movie and he replyed:
"I haven't gotten any phone calls yet. But you never know. He could but you never know if someone else could have been called to play Wolverine."
Nightwing
11-15-2010, 01:32 PM
Sources: CBR, BleedingCool
Chris Claremont On The Wolverine
The man behind the iconic Japan saga that the new movie will be based on gives his thoughts on the direction Darren Aronofsky is taking things, and reveals that he wanted Bob Hoskins to play the part of Wolverine!..
I haven’t seen the screenplay. I’ve heard lots of talk that the screenplay is brilliant, true to the comics, everything else. Reading the cast list, so to speak, was the first inkling I had to the structure of the narrative itself.
..Over the course of the three films he evolved on screen in much the same manner he evolved in the comic. The Wolverine quite naturally becomes the core essence of the group. It would have been interesting if we’d done it 25 years ago and I’d gotten my wish and Bob Hoskins had played him. Hoskins has that same degree of mad fury, and he’s short. Don’t think of Super Mario Bros. think of The Long Good Friday. With Hugh Jackman, it just reverses the paradigm, he’s six foot four and who cares?
..The Wolverine in the film adaptation of the story exists in a different world than the Logan in the story, but that’s the same in any adaptation like the difference between Romeo & Juliet done by Baz Luhrmann versus Franco Zefirrelli versus on the stage. You mentioned that the film starts with him in jail so something happened between Wolverine 1 and Wolverine 2, he’s in jail, but the essence of the character is the same. There’s no X-Men back story to it so you know this won’t end with him sending a note back to the mansion saying “Come to the wedding”.
..The responsibility of the filmmakers is to define their own reality in that two hour stretch. The reality is what occurs in that 110 minutes. The idea with any film is you walk in the door never having seen anything before and you’re introduced to the totality of the experience
EliteF50
11-15-2010, 01:34 PM
Hugh made Wolverine into a leading man type of character, which doesn't suit him at all IMO. But they're not going to replace him until he doesn't want to do the role anymore.
I disagree. Hugh has started something spectacular with Wolverine. Before X1, Wolverine was always the odd man of the group, but after the first Singer movie, Wolverine started to become a leading man in the media (X-Men Evolution, Wolverine and the X-Men, etc) and I think that suits him more.
Eelectro 2
11-15-2010, 01:42 PM
i hope by the movie not being a sequel to origins that doesnt mean it is going to contradict anything that happened in that film or the x-men films.
EliteF50
11-15-2010, 01:48 PM
I hope Aronofsky gets a trilogy. I want Hugh to play Wolverine for as long as he could.
How could it? There are absolutely no characters from Origins in this film other than Logan.
bullets
11-15-2010, 02:11 PM
i hope by the movie not being a sequel to origins that doesnt mean it is going to contradict anything that happened in that film or the x-men films.
Wolverine lost his memory so we might get some flashbacks of Weapon X like in X2 but they can be vague enough to not contradict anything. I think it will be easy for him to not do that. Wolverine is so separated by being in Japan .
Deaths Head II
11-15-2010, 02:14 PM
I disagree. Hugh has started something spectacular with Wolverine. Before X1, Wolverine was always the odd man of the group, but after the first Singer movie, Wolverine started to become a leading man in the media (X-Men Evolution, Wolverine and the X-Men, etc) and I think that suits him more.
Completely disagree. Leading man Wolverine is usually more boring and the writers almost always have trouble balancing the dark loner aspect and the leading man aspect. And they want to keep both because the former is what makes him an interesting character while the latter keeps him in the spotlight. But you really can't have your cake and eat it it too. It just leads to bad writing and inconsistent characterization. Like in X-Men Origins: Wolverine where everyone calls him an animal when he's actually not an animal at all and actually a pretty nice guy who makes a lot of friends for a supposed loner. Or in Wolverine and the X-Men when he says he's different from Archangel because he's a monster even though the rest of the show illustrates him as the savior of mutantkind and doesn't show him doing anything bad except one time which was a actually just Wolverine's faulty memory so Wolverine was still a great guy even there. Plus Wolverine being the leading man almost always marginalizes other characters, which harms the team aspect of the X-Men. Just bad writing and characterization all around.
i hope by the movie not being a sequel to origins that doesnt mean it is going to contradict anything that happened in that film or the x-men films.
Exactly what I want. The way Logan's Weapon X past was handled in XMOW was absolute rubbish. Wipe that out!
EliteF50
11-15-2010, 02:32 PM
Completely disagree. Leading man Wolverine is usually more boring and the writers almost always have trouble balancing the dark loner aspect and the leading man aspect. And they want to keep both because the former is what makes him an interesting character while the latter keeps him in the spotlight. But you really can't have your cake and eat it it too. It just leads to bad writing and inconsistent characterization. Like in X-Men Origins: Wolverine where everyone calls him an animal when he's actually not an animal at all and actually a pretty nice guy who makes a lot of friends for a supposed loner. Or in Wolverine and the X-Men when he says he's different from Archangel because he's a monster even though the rest of the show illustrates him as the savior of mutantkind and doesn't show him doing anything bad except one time which was a actually just Wolverine's faulty memory so Wolverine was still a great guy even there. Plus Wolverine being the leading man almost always marginalizes other characters, which harms the team aspect of the X-Men. Just bad writing and characterization all around.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But I love the idea of Wolverine as a leading man if done right. Ever since I was young, I loved Wolverine but didn't like the idea of him being attached to a team. As I grew up I realized the X-Men are super bad-ass, but I still feel like Wolvie would make a great leader.
Even though the writing might not be great when he's a leading man, I've enjoyed everything he's been in. Whether it be "Wolverine and the X-Men" or even "X-men Origins: Wolverine".
It's all a matter of opinion, really.
Doctor Jones
11-15-2010, 04:46 PM
He's better as a loner who is attached to the team but NOT a leader. Logan has never been a leader. This is the problem. He is just a guy who wants to be left alone alot. If he has to join the team, it won't be the leader. He doesn't like the spotlight. Cyclops is the leader. Wolverine being a leader just plain doesn't fit. Besides, he would make a horrible leader and yet the writers make him a great one. It's a contradiction to Logan's true characterization. He has his own separate way of doing things, which is the reason he doesn't get along with Cyclops who fits the bill of the leader type. He is not a natural born leader. He's a rebel. How could one be a leader if they're a rebel?
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