View Full Version : What's the consensus on the teaser trailer from average joe?
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 11:57 AM
Since we have seen the teaser trailer,I would like to know what the common reaction is from the people who are connected to you(fellow SHH posters). To those of you who have shown it to non GL fans,I know that I am sort of beating over the head,but I can't help it.
Suzanne78
11-17-2010, 12:01 PM
Well, my husband's about as average joe as you can get. He loves movies, some superhero movies, but he doesn't read comics.
He thought the trailer was all right. I don't know if he was excited enough to pay $12 for a ticket at the IMAX theater for it on opening weekend, but I know he's at least interested.
Daybreak_st
11-17-2010, 12:03 PM
My wife thought it looked a little corny and so did i when i first saw the footage. Since then i've seen the HD trailer and most of my complaints regarding the effects are withdrawn. It looks so much better in HD. Hoping to show it to her later and see what she thinks.
flash13
11-17-2010, 01:15 PM
My family thought it looked awesome.
Brian Braddock
11-17-2010, 01:21 PM
Fella in work who's not into comics but into sci-fi absolutely loved it when I showed it to him.
Timstuff
11-17-2010, 01:28 PM
I showed it to my animation class today. Everyone loved it. :)
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 01:32 PM
Nvm.
If I'm Joe Average there's nothing about that trailer that would make me want to see this film. The film could be great no doubt but that trailer does not much to show it.
rashad
11-17-2010, 03:39 PM
My mom and sister liked it alot and are definitely interested.
My sister saw it and liked it but was asking if the CGI will be fixed by the time the movie comes out, only because of Hal's eyes at the very end. Sounds like a lot of people in these threads. :woot:
HighFivingMF
11-17-2010, 09:03 PM
My Mother's (She's in love with Reynolds) reaction: "Cool beans! You should send a picture of Ryan to my phone for my background."
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm thinking they need to whiten out his eyes a bit, because my friends all said the same thing: He looks..cross-eyed.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 09:08 PM
You should show them that one pic with a better closeup of him where he doesn't look cross eyed.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 09:10 PM
It's like the Lucy Liu effect. Certain angle makes her look cross-eyed.
S.A.A.D.
11-17-2010, 09:14 PM
Lol.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 09:31 PM
But I'm almost convinced that Sony hasn't even touched his pupils yet because they look like they're contacts. In the center, it's clearly black while in the promotional stuff, his pupils are bluish and cloudy.
I'm curious as to why they didn't use his own eyes since only the mask around them should be CGI. I wonder if they didn't show up well enough when the mask is glowing.
Deaths Head II
11-17-2010, 10:11 PM
I think they should have just done away with the mask to begin with. Maybe I'll change my mind when we see better footage in a few months but for now it just looks like it's amateurishly photoshopped on his face whenever you pause the screen.
Octoberist
11-17-2010, 10:13 PM
No, I like domino masks in general, so that's why I'm not against it. I think they should have a physical mask instead because it's just wasted man-hours if they CGI it, and it looks fake.
Deaths Head II
11-17-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm not really a fan of the domino mask to begin with. It's a step up from Superman's glasses disguise but it doesn't take a master detective to realize it's Hal Jordan under that mask. Plus most of the Green Lanterns are show without it and even some of the human GLs lacked it like Stewart and Guy Gardner so I don't really consider it that important to the Green Lantern uniform.
Sinestro
11-17-2010, 10:21 PM
My girlfriend isn't a huge fan of comics,but she says this looks great:)
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 06:10 AM
The consensus is, the fanboys who love the trailer will say all their friends who arenīt fans loved it, and the fanboys who hate the trailer will say all their friends who arenīt fans hated it.
hatebox
11-18-2010, 06:13 AM
The consensus is, the fanboys who love the trailer will say all their friends who arenīt fans loved it, and the fanboys who hate the trailer will say all their friends who arenīt fans hated it.
^ yup. The answer will just be an extension of how the poster feels about the trailer.
I haven't asked anyone in real life if they like it or not. All I can say is the general reaction on the web outside of this site has been about 65% negative, and that's a conservative estimate.
JLU51306
11-18-2010, 06:41 AM
I showed it to my brother, he thought it was "okay". I showed it to my friend, and he thought it looked awesome.
DarKJediKnight
11-18-2010, 06:50 AM
If I'm Joe Average there's nothing about that trailer that would make me want to see this film. The film could be great no doubt but that trailer does not much to show it.
Glad you're not joe average.
dark_b
11-18-2010, 07:15 AM
My sister saw it and liked it but was asking if the CGI will be fixed by the time the movie comes out, only because of Hal's eyes at the very end. Sounds like a lot of people in these threads. :woot:average joe doesnt ask if the CGI will be fixed by the time the movie comes out. :woot:
S.A.A.D.
11-18-2010, 09:48 AM
^ yup. The answer will just be an extension of how the poster feels about the trailer.
I haven't asked anyone in real life if they like it or not. All I can say is the general reaction on the web outside of this site has been about 65% negative, and that's a conservative estimate.
It's probably a regional thing in your case,the 65% negative thing.
S.A.A.D.
11-18-2010, 09:53 AM
If there is any truth to it all over the place the positivity will go up,and I am sorry but,to me most of the GL fans were pleased by the teaser trailer by the looks of it on the internet. It's a common thing that I have been noticing all over the place. I think that the movie will do good business given how it's is mainly geared at young kids who are very tolerant of things,certain things. They don't seem like a fickle bunch as much as the older kids and adults are imo.
THE MR. TERRIFIC
11-18-2010, 09:55 AM
My wife thought it looked really good.
CashforStash
11-18-2010, 10:20 AM
I showed my self the trailer, thought the trailer looks "alright".
Some CG problems and such. If the film gets good reviews i'd probably check it out.
S.A.A.D.
11-18-2010, 10:23 AM
I think that a minority of people deliberately misinterpreted the question. :doh:
ultimatefan
11-18-2010, 11:25 AM
My suspicion is, those who arenīt fans of the comic book will find it okay, once the future trailers show more of the epic, Star Wars-like scale of the space adventure, theyīll start to get really hyped.
The Sage
11-18-2010, 11:46 AM
My suspicion is, those who arenīt fans of the comic book will find it okay, once the future trailers show more of the epic, Star Wars-like scale of the space adventure, theyīll start to get really hyped.
Your sig is awesome man. :up:
S.A.A.D.
11-18-2010, 11:47 AM
^Agreed.
Mr. Earle
11-18-2010, 04:52 PM
The mask would have worked much better if he changed his hairdo. Now though its so obvious that its Hal.
Octoberist
11-18-2010, 04:55 PM
You know what's so funny? Ryan's hair should have been like this. (The most recent pic of him)
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3323/ryanreynoldspeoplesexie.jpg
Octoberist
11-18-2010, 04:56 PM
and here's another cover, with Ryan having even more longerish hair!
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/958/cover240.jpg
Mr. Earle
11-18-2010, 04:58 PM
I personally found the trailer cheesy. I mean i know that GL isnt the Dark Knight, but that trailer isnt gonna put asses to theatre seats.
They need a more badass trailer, with better music (seriously wth was that?), and a better speech. Maybe something from Sinestro.
Octoberist
11-18-2010, 05:02 PM
I think the next trailer needs 'mystery'.
The Sage
11-18-2010, 05:23 PM
I personally found the trailer cheesy. I mean i know that GL isnt the Dark Knight, but that trailer isnt gonna put asses to theatre seats.
They need a more badass trailer, with better music (seriously wth was that?), and a better speech. Maybe something from Sinestro.
For a teaser trailer I thought it was fine. The Batman Begins teaser trailer didn't put butts in the seats either but the final trailer was awesome and did the job.
I actually wouldn't mind if a second teaser came out soon, even before the superbowl.
Mr. Earle
11-18-2010, 05:27 PM
The Begins trailers were awesome because they were mysterious and atmospheric.
Its just that GL is sci-fi, but instead of technology, cool ships, and all that, we get a superhero in a flashy costume and cheesy powers. No offense, i'm very excited about this because i know GL from the books, I'm just looking at it from the average Joe's perspective.
The Sage
11-18-2010, 05:40 PM
The Begins trailers were awesome because they were mysterious and atmospheric.
Its just that GL is sci-fi, but instead of technology, cool ships, and all that, we get a superhero in a flashy costume and cheesy powers. No offense, i'm very excited about this because i know GL from the books, I'm just looking at it from the average Joe's perspective.
I'm not saying the BB trailers weren't great, but the BB teasers themselves weren't going to fill up theaters. The later marketing, and the full trailers did that. Green Lantern needs to come out firing, not only in the next trailer but a superbowl commercial and a good marketing campaign.
I'm hoping the studio takes some of the ideas from TDK's marketing and puts it to use.
Mr. Earle
11-18-2010, 05:56 PM
I think they're giving rings to celebrities to promote the movie. Something about Jay Z, Taylor Lautner, Taylor Swift and others.
S.A.A.D.
11-18-2010, 09:09 PM
I personally found the trailer cheesy. I mean i know that GL isnt the Dark Knight, but that trailer isnt gonna put asses to theatre seats.
They need a more badass trailer, with better music (seriously wth was that?), and a better speech. Maybe something from Sinestro.
OMG,hi did you hear about the teaser trailer winning over people? If people
thought that it looked good or great then the movie must be doing something right. :doh:
Excelsior.
11-18-2010, 09:51 PM
average joe doesnt ask if the CGI will be fixed by the time the movie comes out. :woot:
What else do they do and not do? Can you tell me so I can score some hot average chicks?:whatever:
HighFivingMF
11-18-2010, 09:55 PM
What else do they do and not do? Can you tell me so I can score some hot average chicks?:whatever:
They really like mesh T-shirts, leather pants, and platform boots. Hehehe.
Darkness Falls
11-18-2010, 11:09 PM
showed the trailer to my family (non comic readers) and they all said the trailer looked good :)
average joe doesnt ask if the CGI will be fixed by the time the movie comes out. :woot:
Very true. My sister is a big movie geek like the rest of us. I guarantee if I were to show the trailer to my parents they wouldn't complain.
Hell, after my Dad saw IM, IM2 and TIH he kept asking me for awhile when IM and the Hulk were going to team up. :woot: He's excited for the Avengers film already.
Docker2.0
11-19-2010, 10:18 AM
I'm surprised noone said the reason that I've been hearing the most: "Isn't GL black?" Yep! That's what I've heard the most. It's been my biggest gripe having so many GL's on Earth.
katie_girl09
11-19-2010, 10:31 AM
Oops! I should have posted in here. I know almost nothing about the Green Lantern. I thought the trailer was kind of cheesy. Kind of like Fantastic Four. But I didn't think FF was bad.
The Sage
11-19-2010, 10:36 AM
I'm surprised noone said the reason that I've been hearing the most: "Isn't GL black?" Yep! That's what I've heard the most. It's been my biggest gripe having so many GL's on Earth.
Docker...:cmad:...:p
Nah just kidding.
It's funny you mentioned this. My friend showed the trailer to a co-worker and she asked, "I thought GL was black?" My cousin even asked that when I told him a GL was movie getting made beginning of the year.
I doubt it'll be much of a big deal, at least outside the black community. I don't know if we'll hear any "They changed the color of the character to appeal to the masses" stuff or anything.
That-Guy
11-19-2010, 11:04 AM
Just curious... have any of you heard the reactions from people who DIDN'T know that the suit was CGI? We all knew that of course, so we've been able to nitpick what looks real about it and what doesn't. But I was wondering if you've talked to anyone that has watched it and was under the impression that it was just a normal costume (at least going into it) and if they were able to recognize that it was CGI.
maenalus
11-19-2010, 11:05 AM
One complaint I'm hearing that I agree with is the cliched self-doubting by Hal. It doesn't ruin it for me, and I knew it was going to be there because modern Hollywood can't seem to make a movie without it, but I wish it wasn't there.
Symbiotic
11-19-2010, 11:16 AM
I got the trailer last night in front of Potter, but I couldn't tell what the general consensus was. The "I know, right?" line got laughs from pretty much everybody though. My friends weren't impressed, mainly because it's Reynolds.
Docker2.0
11-19-2010, 11:22 AM
Docker...:cmad:...:p
Nah just kidding.
It's funny you mentioned this. My friend showed the trailer to a co-worker and she asked, "I thought GL was black?" My cousin even asked that when I told him a GL was movie getting made beginning of the year.
I doubt it'll be much of a big deal, at least outside the black community. I don't know if we'll hear any "They changed the color of the character to appeal to the masses" stuff or anything.
Sage! Get the hell out of this thread! :argh:
Yeah that's all I've been hearing is how they are changing the race to appeal to the masses. It's all on yahoo when people view the trailer. I know they used Hal because he's probably the most famous of the GL's but I think they should have went John Stewart, especially since Denzel has been lobbying for the part in the past. Let's just say some how Nolan comes out of his funk and decides he's all for an assembly pic, with Bale, Reynolds, Welling(hopefully), and whoever is cast in the other parts, isn't the film's lack of diversity(you know it will come up)going to put a negative view on the film to a degree? At least the Avengers have Nick Fury and War Machine with possibly Black Panther. Just saying...........:o
Deaths Head II
11-19-2010, 11:27 AM
One complaint I'm hearing that I agree with is the cliched self-doubting by Hal. It doesn't ruin it for me, and I knew it was going to be there because modern Hollywood can't seem to make a movie without it, but I wish it wasn't there.
I don't think it would flow properly as a film to not have Hal doubt himself. Hal didn't create his role like most heroes, it was given to him. He didn't think up the costume and give himself the job of fighting crime for whatever personal reason, the Green Lantern existed before him. The ring chose him. He has a job to do, and it's huge. It makes more sense for him to doubt himself then any other hero. I would consider it to be poor writing to have any human being eaze into the job of being protector of the universe without wondering if he was up to it. And it makes even more sense for a guy like Hal Jordan since he hasn't been the most responsible person in the past.
The Sage
11-19-2010, 11:30 AM
Sage! Get the hell out of this thread! :argh:
Yeah that's all I've been hearing is how they are changing the race to appeal to the masses. It's all on yahoo when people view the trailer. I know they used Hal because he's probably the most famous of the GL's but I think they should have went John Stewart, especially since Denzel has been lobbying for the part in the past. Let's just say some how Nolan comes out of his funk and decides he's all for an assembly pic, with Bale, Reynolds, Welling(hopefully), and whoever is cast in the other parts, isn't the film's lack of diversity(you know it will come up)going to put a negative view on the film to a degree? At least the Avengers have Nick Fury and War Machine with possibly Black Panther. Just saying...........:o
I thought War Machine's involvement was a rumor, and I'll be surprised if Black Panther's in there, so that leaves only Fury.
And as for everyone else, hopefully they'll take the time and look up the mythos first. None of them complained when Michael Clarke Duncan played Kingpin.
CrazyDavey
11-19-2010, 11:45 AM
1st Brother: cool, looks awesome.
2nd Brother: It's pretty good.
Cousin: I thought Green Lantern was black? <_<
Mom: hmmm.... interesting.
Dad: ....
S.A.A.D.
11-19-2010, 11:48 AM
Did you tell your cousin why GL isn't black in the movie?
CrazyDavey
11-19-2010, 11:51 AM
Yes. Of course I did! :)
Though, we must blame someone for all of this confusion.... damn Bruce Timm and his awesome Justice League animated series! XD
Docker2.0
11-19-2010, 12:00 PM
I thought War Machine's involvement was a rumor, and I'll be surprised if Black Panther's in there, so that leaves only Fury.
And as for everyone else, hopefully they'll take the time and look up the mythos first. None of them complained when Michael Clarke Duncan played Kingpin.
Yeah but that's one more black guy that the JLA will have if they have an assembly film, not to mention Fury is the HNIC.
That-Guy
11-19-2010, 01:49 PM
I don't think it would flow properly as a film to not have Hal doubt himself. Hal didn't create his role like most heroes, it was given to him. He didn't think up the costume and give himself the job of fighting crime for whatever personal reason, the Green Lantern existed before him. The ring chose him. He has a job to do, and it's huge. It makes more sense for him to doubt himself then any other hero. I would consider it to be poor writing to have any human being eaze into the job of being protector of the universe without wondering if he was up to it. And it makes even more sense for a guy like Hal Jordan since he hasn't been the most responsible person in the past.
Spot on. While this might seem like a bit of a change from the Hal we know in comics, that's not necessarily a bad thing. The Bruce Wayne in BB is not exactly the same Wayne we see in the comics (the comic Wayne decided IMMEDIATELY after his parents' death that he would fight crime, and he's often portrayed as a bit more dysfunctional than the movie Wayne) and it still works. Sometimes things need to be changed to fit the medium better.
Spider-Who?
11-19-2010, 01:50 PM
I'm not a DC comics guy. Never picked up a DC comic, save for one or two Batman issues. I've never watched the Justice League cartoons. This trailer is the first real introduction I've had to the Green Lantern, and honestly, I'm interested in it. The vibe seems to be similar to Iron Man, which isn't a bad thing in the slightest. I wouldn't say I'm excited, because I know nothing about the character, but the movie does give off a fun summer movie vibe. I think they seem to be unafraid to embrace the comic side of things - pink aliens, magical rings, and giant green objects springing out from one's imagination, unlike something like Batman, were Nolan's insistent on moving away from the less realistic aspects that comics are heir to.
So, as a teaser trailer, I think its done its job: its intrigued a non Green Lantern fan. I might even pick up a comic or two to get my head around the whole thing.
The Sage
11-19-2010, 02:02 PM
Yeah but that's one more black guy that the JLA will have if they have an assembly film, not to mention Fury is the HNIC.
They could always throw Black Lightning in there, or have Martian Manhunter played by a black guy.
Docker2.0
11-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Are you implying that green martians can be played by black people?! You know that is discrimination. Just saying. :o
The Sage
11-19-2010, 02:25 PM
Are you implying that green martians can be played by black people?! You know that is discrimination. Just saying. :o
I'm just giving alternatives, based on that he's played by black guy on Smallville and was voiced by a black man in JL/JLU.
HighFivingMF
11-19-2010, 02:28 PM
And WB wanted Laurence Fishburne for Martian Manhunter in Justice League: Mortal.
Mr. Earle
11-19-2010, 02:31 PM
And WB wanted Laurence Fishburne for Martian Manhunter in Justice League: Mortal.Oh my god... :doh:
HighFivingMF
11-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Oh my god... :doh:
Racist. :o
Mr. Earle
11-19-2010, 02:38 PM
I dont see what racism has to do with it.
EDIT: Damn i thought you said GL. Ok for MM he does make sense, because he was wrong for GL.
Mondragon
11-19-2010, 02:40 PM
Spot on. While this might seem like a bit of a change from the Hal we know in comics,
It's not really that much of a departure or "change" though - Emerald Dawn, the first retelling of Hal's origin, which this movie and Geoff Johns borrow much from, shows the still young, still reckless and doubting Hal Jordan recognizing and verbalizing his fear. Externally he's always looked "fearless" (which is really just an expression to describe people who are overcoming it to go further then you or I might)
What he’s doing, what he’s "always" been doing is overcoming it, that’s the potential the ring recognized in him.
And in Emerald Dawn (bellow) he recognizes and verbalizes it.
It's been canon, Geoff Johns has kept this canon, and now the movie has too.
The movie just swaps out Emerald Dawn's villain Legion (who was in the first draft) with the now more contemporary Parallax.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9606/glemeralddawnfear2.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6458/glemeralddawnfear3.jpg
If anyone’s not familiar: That’s him (overcoming doubt and fear) absorbing the Central Battery unto himself, and separating Legion (i.e. now Parallax) from the Battery and Oa where it had grafted itself on.
RachelDawes
11-19-2010, 03:02 PM
Just curious... have any of you heard the reactions from people who DIDN'T know that the suit was CGI? We all knew that of course, so we've been able to nitpick what looks real about it and what doesn't. But I was wondering if you've talked to anyone that has watched it and was under the impression that it was just a normal costume (at least going into it) and if they were able to recognize that it was CGI.
If the public is anything like me, they'll barely pay any attention to the costume at all, and will notice the CGI only if it's really horrific.
maenalus
11-19-2010, 03:45 PM
I don't think it would flow properly as a film to not have Hal doubt himself. Hal didn't create his role like most heroes, it was given to him. He didn't think up the costume and give himself the job of fighting crime for whatever personal reason, the Green Lantern existed before him. The ring chose him. He has a job to do, and it's huge. It makes more sense for him to doubt himself then any other hero. I would consider it to be poor writing to have any human being eaze into the job of being protector of the universe without wondering if he was up to it. And it makes even more sense for a guy like Hal Jordan since he hasn't been the most responsible person in the past.
It's just the opposite for me. I think it would flow better if the one man out of billions to be chosen for a job requiring unparalleled bravery and self-control, would be a character that spared us the same introspective dramatics we get everywhere else.
arman200
11-19-2010, 04:04 PM
I had a very responsive crowd, they clapped for the trailer, but they mostly just seemed excited about the prospect of a green lantern movie. When the ring came up and the words "Green Lantern" were uttered by Abin Sur, there was a "Yeah!" in the crowd. Also...they clapped for the cowboys and aliens trailer, and the tron legacy trailer, and most the other trailers we got except yogi bear, and then clapped throughout triumphant parts in Harry Potter, so maybe they were just excited.
They laughed at the end of the trailer though, not the "I know, right? line, but they were making fun of how he looked when he transformed. Then slight chuckles with that line, and the laugh afterward.
Docker2.0
11-19-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm just giving alternatives, based on that he's played by black guy on Smallville and was voiced by a black man in JL/JLU.
You damn racist! :argh:
The Sage
11-19-2010, 04:54 PM
I had a very responsive crowd, they clapped for the trailer, but they mostly just seemed excited about the prospect of a green lantern movie. When the ring came up and the words "Green Lantern" were uttered by Abin Sur, there was a "Yeah!" in the crowd. Also...they clapped for the cowboys and aliens trailer, and the tron legacy trailer, and most the other trailers we got except yogi bear, and then clapped throughout triumphant parts in Harry Potter, so maybe they were just excited.
They laughed at the end of the trailer though, not the "I know, right? line, but they were making fun of how he looked when he transformed. Then slight chuckles with that line, and the laugh afterward.
Aww, no love for Yogi Bear? :csad::p
terry78
11-19-2010, 10:43 PM
Got some silence except for the humorous lines by Jordan in the trailer. My audience was mostly teenage chicks since it was Harry Potter though. :dry:
HighFivingMF
11-19-2010, 10:46 PM
I asked my friend who saw it at midnight if it got a reaction. He said "Not as much as one would imagine. Although the trailer after was Nicolas Cage in another movie set in the past. Needless to say it cooled everyone down pretty quick."
Nope, I don't know what the Hell that means either. :oldrazz:
S.A.A.D.
11-19-2010, 10:46 PM
Nvm.
Mr. Earle
11-19-2010, 10:47 PM
Gotta say, the part where Abin Sur speaks is fantastic. The speech, the music, the awesome scenes from Oa... And then we cut to a jeep running through a forest or whatever... Meh. I guess they didnt have any more CGI ready.
I have faith the next trailer will be a lot better. All will be well!
S.A.A.D.
11-19-2010, 10:49 PM
Nvm.
HighFivingMF
11-19-2010, 10:49 PM
I guess they didnt have any more CGI ready.
Let's hope so. :hal:
LastSunrise1981
11-19-2010, 11:09 PM
Growing up I wasn't a huge fan of the Green Lantern. I was more into comics like Superman, Batman, Punisher, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, X-Men, and etc.
So I'm not really well versed in the mythology regarding the Green Lantern and the only thing I have some familiarity with is when he apparently turns into the Spectre? Other than that? I know nothing about the character.
With that said, the trailer has grown on me and I assume that while it shows a lot of comedic bits I'm certain it will have a darker and more serious tinge to it in terms of the storyline. However, being an employee at a movie theatre I can tell you that from my perspective, the audience really seemed to enjoy the trailer.
The scene that seemed to get the biggest reaction is when Hal morphs from his PJ's to the Green Lantern uniform.
S.A.A.D.
11-20-2010, 12:22 AM
It's great to see you here,I hope that you continue to stick around.
S.A.A.D.
11-20-2010, 12:43 AM
Growing up I wasn't a huge fan of the Green Lantern. I was more into comics like Superman, Batman, Punisher, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, X-Men, and etc.
So I'm not really well versed in the mythology regarding the Green Lantern and the only thing I have some familiarity with is when he apparently turns into the Spectre? Other than that? I know nothing about the character.
With that said, the trailer has grown on me and I assume that while it shows a lot of comedic bits I'm certain it will have a darker and more serious tinge to it in terms of the storyline. However, being an employee at a movie theatre I can tell you that from my perspective, the audience really seemed to enjoy the trailer.
The scene that seemed to get the biggest reaction is when Hal morphs from his PJ's to the Green Lantern uniform.
It's normal for GL Hal Jordan to be funny in the comics.
The scene that seemed to get the biggest reaction is when Hal morphs from his PJ's to the Green Lantern uniform.
Got back from seeing Harry Potter about an hour ago and that was also the scene that got the biggest reaction in the theatre I was in. It got a good amount of laughs. Throughout the rest of the trailer I could hear people talking but couldn't make out what any of them were saying so I don't know if it was good or bad.
All that matters in regards to this film's success is if the general audience likes it and not the fanboys complaining about a few comedic moments, which every comic film has had in the past. A lot of the audience chuckled when Hal says "I KNOW, RIGHT!" in the scene LastSunrise1981 mentioned which is a small indicator in my area at least. This could very well be a film the GA really likes in the end.
ultimatefan
11-20-2010, 02:16 PM
It's just the opposite for me. I think it would flow better if the one man out of billions to be chosen for a job requiring unparalleled bravery and self-control, would be a character that spared us the same introspective dramatics we get everywhere else.
Even people of unparalleled bravery and self-control still have moments of fear and self-doubt. Itīs basic humanity,nobody completely escapes that.
maenalus
11-20-2010, 04:22 PM
Even people of unparalleled bravery and self-control still have moments of fear and self-doubt. Itīs basic humanity,nobody completely escapes that.
Everyone has fear and doubts --- that's a basic fact of life. The modern, tired cliche that I'm objecting to is the wallowing in, and fussing about those fears. Especially when it's grown men who are the heroes of the story.
Motown Marvel
11-20-2010, 04:58 PM
Everyone has fear and doubts --- that's a basic fact of life. The modern, tired cliche that I'm objecting to is the wallowing in, and fussing about those fears. Especially when it's grown men who are the heroes of the story.
what about straczynski's superman?
ultimatefan
11-20-2010, 05:14 PM
Everyone has fear and doubts --- that's a basic fact of life. The modern, tired cliche that I'm objecting to is the wallowing in, and fussing about those fears. Especially when it's grown men who are the heroes of the story.
Itīs an even more tired cliché, and unrealistic, that the hero doesnīt fear anything and never demonstrates if he does. Just because the character has a moment where he admits heīs not fearless, that doesnīt mean wallowing in it.
I Am The Knight
11-20-2010, 05:22 PM
What else do they do and not do? Can you tell me so I can score some hot average chicks?:whatever:
LOL, man.
CB Fan
11-20-2010, 09:39 PM
I work at a movie theater and have dropped in the theaters playing the trailer from time to time and it seems most don't really know what to think the last part of the trailer gets a few (very few) laughs but other than that the audience is always silent.
S.A.A.D.
11-20-2010, 09:48 PM
At work today I saw the audience's reaction towards the teaser trailer,and they were mostly silent,they laughed after Hal said I know,right?.
Octoberist
11-21-2010, 03:51 AM
It's really hard to get a gauge on it, really. My friends were mixed, and at the Harry Potter showing, there was a mild response. This is coming from a fairly energetic crowd too..
S.A.A.D.
11-21-2010, 09:19 AM
It sounds to me like some of the general audience doesn't know what the movie is about at all even though it's been explained to them to an extent. Hopefully the second trailer doe's the job for that group.
S.A.A.D.
11-21-2010, 09:23 AM
It's really hard to get a gauge on it, really. My friends were mixed, and at the Harry Potter showing, there was a mild response. This is coming from a fairly energetic crowd too..
I don't see how it's a bad thing just because they were a fairly energetic crowd too. It seems as if you are implying that.
S.A.A.D.
11-21-2010, 09:33 AM
It's really hard to get a gauge on it, really. My friends were mixed, and at the Harry Potter showing, there was a mild response. This is coming from a fairly energetic crowd too..
Even though it was mixed,what would you say is the general opinion coming from them? Sorry,you didn't delve further.
Doctor Jones
11-21-2010, 09:38 AM
I read some article saying this trailer is a hit on the internet.
sdc10
11-21-2010, 09:40 AM
When Abin Sur showed up he got a pretty big reaction from the crowd, a mix of "ooooh" and "ewww" :woot:, which to me just goes to show how good he looked. Also, the "I know right" got a pretty big laugh as well.
sdc10
11-21-2010, 09:42 AM
It's really hard to get a gauge on it, really. My friends were mixed, and at the Harry Potter showing, there was a mild response. This is coming from a fairly energetic crowd too..
Well one thing about my midnight audience was that they were there to see Harry Potter, not to sit through trailers. It got to the point where people started groaning when the green preview screen when up.
Octoberist
11-21-2010, 09:45 AM
Even though it was mixed,what would you say is the general opinion coming from them? Sorry,you didn't delve further.
It sounds to me like some of the general audience doesn't know what the movie is about at all even though it's been explained to them to an extent. Hopefully the second trailer doe's the job for that group.
I don't see how it's a bad thing just because they were a fairly energetic crowd too. It seems as if you are implying that. Haha, did you just reply to the same response 3 times?
Anyway, I speaking for myself and what I personally saw (not over all), that's why I said that it's hard to gauge if people really really liked it not. Not saying it was great, nor did I say it was bad so that's why I said I couldn't tell. It seems like my friends were interesting, but some were 'meh' on it. I couldn't say much to convince them otherwise because they're not comic book fans.
S.A.A.D.
11-21-2010, 09:47 AM
I read some article saying this trailer is a hit on the internet.
:woot:
S.A.A.D.
11-21-2010, 09:49 AM
Haha, did you just reply to the same response 3 times?
Anyway, I speaking for myself and what I personally saw (not over all), that's why I said that it's hard to gauge if people really really liked it not. Not saying it was great, nor did I say it was bad so that's why I said I couldn't tell.
Yup. I just find it more convenient,even though I never deal with multi quoting here.
Octoberist
11-21-2010, 10:45 AM
hoyhoy
maenalus
11-21-2010, 10:51 AM
what about straczynski's superman?
I haven't read it. From everything I've seen and heard, I can tell it isn't for me.
Itīs an even more tired cliché, and unrealistic, that the hero doesnīt fear anything and never demonstrates if he does. Just because the character has a moment where he admits heīs not fearless, that doesnīt mean wallowing in it.
It's not cliched for a character to simply refrain from doing something tedious and annoying, and it is not unrealistic for a man not to confess to being afraid; even if he's actually scared s***less.
And in that clip, it looks like Hal is doing more than admitting he's not fearless. It looks like he's trying to convince himself and Carol that he's not good enough to be a hero.
The Sage
11-21-2010, 12:00 PM
And in that clip, it looks like Hal is doing more than admitting he's not fearless. It looks like he's trying to convince himself and Carol that he's not good enough to be a hero.
If that's the case I'm fine with it to an extent. If the talk that they took a lot of ideas from Secret Origin is true, then regarding Hal's backstory prior to getting the ring, it makes sense that he doesn't consider himself to be a hero.
I Am The Knight
11-21-2010, 12:14 PM
Every superhero goes through the quitting act-for-5 minutes thing in these movies. It's standard procedure by now.
Hurm...
11-21-2010, 02:11 PM
My friend's reaction:
"Looks good! But....why isn't he black?!"
lol
El Payaso
11-21-2010, 03:04 PM
Every superhero goes through the quitting act-for-5 minutes thing in these movies. It's standard procedure by now.
That and some other things make many superhero movies cliche and boring.
My friend's reaction:
"Looks good! But....why isn't he black?!"
lol
Hahaha. If your friend ever becomes a SHH member you can tell him he's been pre-banned. :P
Octoberist
11-23-2010, 04:54 AM
My brother saw it and he said it was 'terrible'. While I tried to reason with him, I did admit that the trailer wasn't exactly a crowd pleaser. Keep in mind, he is still looking forward to it.
Micah12345
11-23-2010, 06:06 AM
My sister complained about everything being CG. She's a make up artist and likes as little CG as possible in her special effects.
S.A.A.D.
11-23-2010, 10:46 AM
Everything in the teaser trailer,CGI? :doh:
Octoberist
11-23-2010, 11:10 AM
well that's how it is.
S.A.A.D.
11-23-2010, 11:14 AM
well that's how it is.
What I am thinking is that she thought that every shot that was in the teaser trailer was tied into CGI. She makes it sound like that.
Octoberist
11-23-2010, 11:17 AM
well, give it time.
I'm TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW...I think most people are basing it off on the 'meh' shot of Hal in his apartment. That's the one scene that sticks out the most and the one scene when the suit looks 'iffy'. Otherwise, in the other shots, it looks decent, along with the rest of the CGI.
I'm sure by the next trailer, people would be 'turned' and will liken to Green Lantern.
Brian Braddock
11-23-2010, 11:40 AM
It's funny - I dont even regard that as a 'meh' shot, to be honest. I can only therefore conclude that I'll be absolutely beside myself with joy and ecstacy when I see the 'better', cleaned up shots.
Docker2.0
11-23-2010, 11:58 AM
I still say WB missed out on getting Denzel for Stewart when he openly campaigned for it. The only complaint I'm hearing is why isn't he black?
S.A.A.D.
11-23-2010, 12:01 PM
There is always next time,in case the dude who is John Stewart chooses to not return or something.
The Sage
11-23-2010, 12:17 PM
I still say WB missed out on getting Denzel for Stewart when he openly campaigned for it. The only complaint I'm hearing is why isn't he black?
When did this campaign take place? :funny:
Docker2.0
11-23-2010, 12:23 PM
Denzel has said he wanted to play a superhero for awhile and the one he wanted to play most was GL.
The Sage
11-23-2010, 12:40 PM
Maybe he can play Black Lightning.
kedrell
11-23-2010, 03:08 PM
Every superhero goes through the quitting act-for-5 minutes thing in these movies. It's standard procedure by now.
I assume you're refering to the "I want to quit because I want to get with " trope or the self-doubt/I'm not good enough/humility trope. Correct? If so then neither Iron Man nor Hulk in films have technically done this(I believe, purposefully so). So [I]every superhero doesn't get side-lined by these tropes. Just Superman(SM2), Batman(TDK), Spider-Man(SM2), etc. FF & X-Men really don't count IMO as they are team movies with multiple heroes. I also don't think Blade fell into these tropes either if I'm not mistaken.
Motown Marvel
11-23-2010, 03:33 PM
I haven't read it. From everything I've seen and heard, I can tell it isn't for me.
ha, sorry, i just realized how poorly my joke came off in written form. i was just making fun of JMS' superman, because your comment about the stupidity of self wallowing superheroes is pretty much exactly how he characterizes superman and its ridiculous.
terry78
11-23-2010, 03:39 PM
I assume you're refering to the "I want to quit because I want to get with " trope or the self-doubt/I'm not good enough/humility trope. Correct? If so then neither Iron Man nor Hulk in films have technically done this(I believe, purposefully so). So [I]every superhero doesn't get side-lined by these tropes. Just Superman(SM2), Batman(TDK), Spider-Man(SM2), etc. FF & X-Men really don't count IMO as they are team movies with multiple heroes. I also don't think Blade fell into these tropes either if I'm not mistaken.
Those two were the exception to the rule since their superhero alter-egos are basically affixed to them for life, unless something changes.
kedrell
11-23-2010, 03:49 PM
Those two were the exception to the rule since their superhero alter-egos are basically affixed to them for life, unless something changes.
Fair enough. I was just making a correction.
SuperAl
11-23-2010, 07:26 PM
most people said it looked cheesy, prolly cuz of hector's look before and after his transformation and the dialogue in the beginning.
Darkness Falls
11-24-2010, 04:32 PM
i honestly thought the trailer was great
maybe a few editing flaws....
i think the trailer should've started with the "horizon" speech by hal
remove the apartment scene at the end, save that for a tv spot or something
and then stretch out some final shots of hal flying ect with the full oath
it works as a teaser though, getting people aware/interested in the film
looking forward to the next trailer :)
I Am The Knight
11-25-2010, 07:14 PM
I assume you're refering to the "I want to quit because I want to get with " trope or the self-doubt/I'm not good enough/humility trope. Correct? If so then neither Iron Man nor Hulk in films have technically done this(I believe, purposefully so). So [I]every superhero doesn't get side-lined by these tropes. Just Superman(SM2), Batman(TDK), Spider-Man(SM2), etc. FF & X-Men really don't count IMO as they are team movies with multiple heroes. I also don't think Blade fell into these tropes either if I'm not mistaken.
I wasn't being literal. But yes, that's what I was referring to.
S.A.A.D.
11-25-2010, 07:35 PM
most people said it looked cheesy, prolly cuz of hector's look before and after his transformation and the dialogue in the beginning.
You mean Hal Jordan. :oldrazz:
Upset Spideyfan
11-25-2010, 07:54 PM
No he doesn't, he means Hector as in Hector Hammond.
S.A.A.D.
11-25-2010, 08:15 PM
No he doesn't, he means Hector as in Hector Hammond.
Whoops. :doh:
TheMadScientist
11-26-2010, 03:02 PM
According yahoo.news the trailer was an "Internet hit" :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101117/en_ac/7214694_39green_lantern39_trailer_becomes_internet _hit#mwpphu-container
mat-chow
11-27-2010, 02:16 AM
Saw it in the theater tonight. Almost the whole audience laughed when RR changes into GL and says "I KNOW RIGHT?" It definitely got more of a response than any of the other previews. Just saying.
Excelsior.
11-27-2010, 01:49 PM
it definitely got more of a response than any of the other previews.I know riiiiiteee?
Justkidding
11-27-2010, 05:27 PM
Saw Harry Potter with a big group of people, while all the girls said they don't mind looking at RR's abs, they were confused as to why Green Lantern was no longer black. Which seems to be the biggest questions from non-comic fans.
terry78
11-27-2010, 05:29 PM
Do all these non-comic fans really assume the first GL was John Stewart? I guess the DCAU got to more people than I thought.
Chewy
11-27-2010, 05:37 PM
Yeah, "Why isn't he black?" seems to be a pretty common response
I Am The Knight
11-27-2010, 05:39 PM
He gotta be black!
Justkidding
11-27-2010, 05:41 PM
Also, the last shot where he's in the suit with him breathing, kind of creeped out a lot of people. Looks like they did too good of a job on the tightness of the cg suit.
TheComicbookKid
11-27-2010, 06:52 PM
they were confused as to why Green Lantern was no longer black. Which seems to be the biggest questions from non-comic fans.
On the plus side, DC should be happy to know they managed to have such an impact on a demo of kids, at the time, who fondly remember John.
Doctor Jones
11-27-2010, 07:03 PM
Stewart was my first introduction to GL because I watched JL when I was a kid. I didn't find out about Hal a while afterwards. I didn't even know there was a GL corps.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-27-2010, 07:33 PM
I love that alot of people seem to think that GL is black...it kinda warms my heart.
terry78
11-27-2010, 07:39 PM
I love that alot of people seem to think that GL is black...it kinda warms my heart.
But to the hardcore nerds, he's the affirmative action GL.
S.A.A.D.
11-27-2010, 07:50 PM
People need to get it through their head that there are other Green Lanterns, it's strange because they can accept the aliens that are GLs in the movie,but not Hal Jordan.
S.A.A.D.
11-27-2010, 07:55 PM
I love that alot of people seem to think that GL is black...it kinda warms my heart.
It's sad that certain idiots would see the movie cause,"Zomg a black guy has these super powers,therefor I gotta see the movie!"(people who weren't originally Green Lantern fans before the movie was made). The stereotypical group that is. It's quite shallow as well on the other hand but only if it was the opposite that is,I'm still waiting for one of those idiots to pull the race card by proclaiming that it's racist to not have the black guy play GL/John Stewart.
Chewy
11-27-2010, 07:56 PM
Because to the uninitiated it's not a matter of Hal Jordan vs John Stewart, it's a matter of whitewashing
Yeah, it's ignorant. But if you grew up watching a cartoon where Green Lantern is a black dude and the new Green Lantern movie stars Ryan Reynolds, it's sort of understandable to be confused
S.A.A.D.
11-27-2010, 08:11 PM
Because to the uninitiated it's not a matter of Hal Jordan vs John Stewart, it's a matter of whitewashing
Yeah, it's ignorant. But if you grew up watching a cartoon where Green Lantern is a black dude and the new Green Lantern movie stars Ryan Reynolds, it's sort of understandable to be confused
I respectfully disagree since a number of those people saw the other Green Lanterns from the cartoon or cartoons,they should have put 2 and 2 together when they saw the trailer for GL,if that wasn't the case then I would agree with you. It's some weird sense of "I feel complete" that we'll never know,if John Stewart was the only GL in the DC universe that would be a different story as well.
Yup.
TheComicbookKid
11-27-2010, 10:11 PM
I respectfully disagree since a number of those people saw the other Green Lanterns from the cartoon or cartoons,they should have put 2 and 2 together when they saw the trailer for GL,if that wasn't the case then I would agree with you. It's some weird sense of "I feel complete" that we'll never know,if John Stewart was the only GL in the DC universe that would be a different story as well.
Yup.
That doesn't make as much sense taking in account that the movies will never have the interconnected scope of the comics that makes 3 GL's on one Earth make any kind of logic. The fact John can be the JL's Lantern while Hal is the GL comic one doesn't even remotely figure to someone only familiar with the toons or movie. I doubt most people can tell Barry/Wally, Wally/Bart or Dick/Todd/Tim unless you mention it.
Octoberist
11-27-2010, 10:19 PM
I'm sure the people making the assumption that they made Green Lantern white, probably doesn't know they're two different people. Hence, it tells me that they have no argument.
TheComicbookKid
11-27-2010, 10:46 PM
I'm sure the people making the assumption that they made Green Lantern white, probably doesn't know they're two different people. Hence, it tells me that they have no argument.
Man you guys are rough.lol. Now I understand those stories about newbies not feeling welcome at comic shops.
We're all ignorant or misinformed about stuff. It's not like they're pulling this feeling out of nowhere. John is their GL. There's really no reason this story couldn't have been about him other than fanboy outrage.
HighFivingMF
11-27-2010, 10:55 PM
Man you guys are rough.lol. Now I understand those stories about newbies not feeling welcome at comic shops.
We're all ignorant or misinformed about stuff. It's not like they're pulling this feeling out of nowhere. John is their GL. There's really no reason this story couldn't have been about him other than fanboy outrage.
Based on my experience with the folks who say "But Green Lantern's black!" don't have anything invested in John. They just remember the image of a black guy in that costume.
And a Green Lantern movie about John Stewart wouldn't really be that interesting. "You have been chosen to accept your destiny and save the universe... If those first two guys should fail."
Chewy
11-27-2010, 10:57 PM
True but technically any of the lanterns could have been the movie lantern. It's not like Hal Jordan is a particularly interesting character in his own right, outside of his lanterning.
Justkidding
11-27-2010, 11:30 PM
Based on my experience with the folks who say "But Green Lantern's black!" don't have anything invested in John. They just remember the image of a black guy in that costume.
And a Green Lantern movie about John Stewart wouldn't really be that interesting. "You have been chosen to accept your destiny and save the universe... If those first two guys should fail."
Any of the GL's could have been interesting. John Stewart was a marine so that could already start things off with contrasting the whole Space cop thing with that and how fighting space monsters isn't all that different from his other combat, and the fact he's an engineer and how detailed his rings constructs are would be neat on screen. If anything him and Kyle would be two of the more interesting GL's to choose from based on backgrounds alone. Hal for years, and still to some people today, is known for being void of any kind of interesting personality.
TheComicbookKid
11-28-2010, 12:01 AM
Based on my experience with the folks who say "But Green Lantern's black!" don't have anything invested in John. They just remember the image of a black guy in that costume.
And a Green Lantern movie about John Stewart wouldn't really be that interesting. "You have been chosen to accept your destiny and save the universe... If those first two guys should fail."
I agree about that general black guy comment but I hate to tell you, Hal Jordan doesn't have anything but history on his side.
The Supes cartoon used Kyle and it was awesome. I'm just saying there's really no good reason it couldn't have been John.
True but technically any of the lanterns could have been the movie lantern. It's not like Hal Jordan is a particularly interesting character in his own right, outside of his lanterning.
Any of the GL's could have been interesting. John Stewart was a marine so that could already start things off with contrasting the whole Space cop thing with that and how fighting space monsters isn't all that different from his other combat, and the fact he's an engineer and how detailed his rings constructs are would be neat on screen. If anything him and Kyle would be two of the more interesting GL's to choose from based on backgrounds alone. Hal for years, and still to some people today, is known for being void of any kind of interesting personality.
What they said. I'd rather we'd jumped in with Kyle. Pretended Hal Jordan never happened.
HighFivingMF
11-28-2010, 12:13 AM
Hal for years, and still to some people today, is known for being void of any kind of interesting personality.
He's more accused of it than known for it. Hal definitely has his own personality. As do Guy, John, and Kyle. I can see why they'd want to wait for Kyle though, it would make him seem more unique if you got used to the Lanterns that can overcome fear to get the full effect of choosing the one that does feel and show fear.
Micah12345
11-28-2010, 12:39 AM
johnny depp for kyle lol
Justkidding
11-28-2010, 12:42 AM
johnny depp for kyle lol
Bit old for a character in his twenties.
Micah12345
11-28-2010, 12:45 AM
meh, I could forgive age for depp
Axl Van Sixx
11-28-2010, 03:19 AM
Played the trailer for my sister tonight and she said she knew Green Lantern was a superhero, but didn't know about the outer space element. Unfortunately, she left before I could press her as to whether she liked it or not. Don't worry; Facebook will correct that problem.
maenalus
11-28-2010, 09:30 AM
True but technically any of the lanterns could have been the movie lantern. It's not like Hal Jordan is a particularly interesting character in his own right, outside of his lanterning.
You are, of course, completely wrong. Hal Jordan is one of the greatest superhero alter-egos of them all. Right from the start, Hal had one of the best, most fleshed out professional and personal lives and supporting cast outside of his superheroing of any comic book character. First of all, he's a freaking test pilot. Which is awesome. Then there's Carol, his boss/lover/enemy. His relationship with her alone would give a film trilogy focused on Hal plenty to play with. You have his close-knit relationship with his family.
What in the world is Hal Jordan lacking that Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne have?
I agree about that general black guy comment but I hate to tell you, Hal Jordan doesn't have anything but history on his side.
Even if that were true (and it isn't), since history is of great importance and is hardly anything to sneeze at, you just conceded a nearly determinative mark in Hal's favor.
The Supes cartoon used Kyle and it was awesome. I'm just saying there's really no good reason it couldn't have been John.Hal being a better character than John. There's a good reason.
Respecting the the creators John Broome and Gil Kane, and the majority of fans. There's a good reason.
Following canon. There's a good reason.
Guy Gardner and Alan Scott being the only other Earth GLs who bring anything worthwhile to the table. There's a good reason.
What they said. I'd rather we'd jumped in with Kyle. Pretended Hal Jordan never happened.I'll see you in Hell.
HighFivingMF
11-28-2010, 09:33 AM
What in the world is Hal Jordon lacking that Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne have?
Capes and multiple movies. :oldrazz: But hopefully Hal catches up.
TheComicbookKid
11-28-2010, 10:53 AM
Even if that were true (and it isn't), since history is of great importance and is hardly anything to sneeze at, you just conceded a nearly determinative mark in Hal's favor.
Hal being a better character than John. There's a good reason.
Respecting the the creators John Broome and Gil Kane, and the majority of fans. There's a good reason.
Following canon. There's a good reason.
Guy Gardner and Alan Scott being the only other Earth GLs who bring anything worthwhile to the table. There's a good reason.
History doesn't make him less boring as a character.
Hal better than John? Maybe.
Respecting the majority?How'd you reach that conclusion?
Canon has Alan Scott first. Yellow impurity. Hal without fear. No freaking yellow parasite creature. We're already picking from which canon.
Alan and Guy can blow each other when it comes to John and Kyle.
I'll see you in Hell.
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Chewy
11-28-2010, 11:26 AM
You are, of course, completely wrong. Hal Jordon is one of the greatest superhero alter-egos of them all. Right from the start, Hal had one of the best, most fleshed out professional and personal lives and supporting cast outside of his superheroing of any comic book character. First of all, he's a freaking test pilot. Which is awesome. Then there's Carol, his boss/lover/enemy. His relationship with her alone would give a film trilogy focused on Hal plenty to play with. You have his close-knit relationship with his family.
What in the world is Hal Jordon lacking that Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne have?
Neither his job nor his girlfriend make him an interesting character in his own right. They've had to change many basic traits of his character in the past few decades and for this movie specifically to make him somewhat palatable.
Justkidding
11-28-2010, 11:29 AM
Let's just all agree on the fact Hal was picked for the movie because he's the one starring the in the comics now. If Guy was in his place and the star of best selling tpb he'd be the one in the posters. Just like how when Superman tas was on Kyle was picked cause he was the star in the comics.
Karelia
11-28-2010, 01:07 PM
My mom saw the trailer a few days ago and said she thinks it looks awesome and wants to go see it in the theater. :D
ultimatefan
11-28-2010, 01:22 PM
True but technically any of the lanterns could have been the movie lantern. It's not like Hal Jordan is a particularly interesting character in his own right, outside of his lanterning.
In the Geoff Johns run yes he is.
The Sage
11-28-2010, 03:07 PM
let's just all agree on the fact hal was picked for the movie because he's the one starring the in the comics now. If guy was in his place and the star of best selling tpb he'd be the one in the posters. Just like how when superman tas was on kyle was picked cause he was the star in the comics.
qft.
maenalus
11-28-2010, 04:30 PM
History doesn't make him less boring as a character.
How is he boring?
Respecting the majority?How'd you reach that conclusion?He's the most popular. He's always been the most popular.
Canon has Alan Scott first. Yellow impurity. Hal without fear. No freaking yellow parasite creature. We're already picking from which canon. I wouldn't be opposed to any of that. I always liked the yellow impurity, so I wish they would keep it. As for Hal being fearless, since that's part of the job description for Green Lanterns, what do you want? He either has to start out like that before the Abin shows up (which makes the most sense), or he has to learn to be fearless. Either way, you end up at the same place.
Alan and Guy can blow each other when it comes to John and Kyle.
Outrageous!
Neither his job nor his girlfriend make him an interesting character in his own right. They've had to change many basic traits of his character in the past few decades and for this movie specifically to make him somewhat palatable.
What he does and how he treats others is what defines his character. If you mean that he gets boring apart from any contact with other people, I guess you got him there. Though, I think that applies to every character and not just Hal Jordan. His main character traits are courage, nobility, loyalty to friends, family and home. He's also a thrill-seeking and cocky individual.
And I don't think any of the changes of the last twenty years improved the character. I find all the drunkenness, traumatized by his father's death, guilt over P.O.W. experience stuff to be tacky, cliched and forced.
TheComicbookKid
11-28-2010, 04:46 PM
How is he boring?
He's the most popular. He's always been the most popular.
I just never was able to connect a fighter pilot with a weapon requiring great imagination. Now an architect/artist, yeah, that makes sense to me.
The fact Kyle had to figure it out for himself, Greatest American Hero style, just makes it easier to connect with for me. Hal is/was the best, but Kyle had to become the best to survive as the last GL.
Considering how many people are reading GL now versus in the 90s when Kyle took over. I'd say he's at least as popular, or not far behind, among the modern readers.
maenalus
11-28-2010, 05:13 PM
I just never was able to connect a fighter pilot with a weapon requiring great imagination. Now an architect/artist, yeah, that makes sense to me.
The fact Kyle had to figure it out for himself, Greatest American Hero style, just makes it easier to connect with for me. Hal is/was the best, but Kyle had to become the best to survive as the last GL.
Considering how many people are reading GL now versus in the 90s when Kyle took over. I'd say he's at least as popular, or not far behind, among the modern readers.
I think Hal's bio puts the requirements of a GL in order though. First and most importantly comes courage, than the imaginativeness of the constructs comes out more as a individual thing, a flourish.
As for not having the Corp, and it just being one man, that appeals to me too, but I would just go with the Alan Scott and the magical meteorite for that instead of Kyle.
mcallima
11-28-2010, 06:49 PM
I'm relatively new to Green Lantern, been reading it for roughly a year. Kyle feels more unoriginal to me than Hal. He just reads like a Peter Parker-ish guy with a power ring. For me, the entire attraction is the space opera element and I think Hal suits that best.
Doctor Jones
11-28-2010, 07:14 PM
Hal's compelling because he doesn't choose to become a hero after he witnesses his father's death. Unlike Bruce or Peter, Hal instead falls into the wind and tries to do the opposite. He does things that would normally put the fear of God into people yet he has none because he already witnessed the most fearful thing.
The idea is compelling. Hal's personality? I didn't get any reading Secret Origin.
Micah12345
11-28-2010, 08:20 PM
I was planning on buying blackest night for my little cousins for christmas, but they STILL haven't put it out in paperback. No way I'm buying a hardcover book for ten year olds. C'mon DC, I know you're smarter than that.
dnno1
11-28-2010, 08:22 PM
I'm relatively new to Green Lantern, been reading it for roughly a year. Kyle feels more unoriginal to me than Hal. He just reads like a Peter Parker-ish guy with a power ring. For me, the entire attraction is the space opera element and I think Hal suits that best.
Kyle was created to attract a younger readership. If he appears to come off as Peter Parker-ish, that is only because he is young and has an altogether different personality than the older Jordan, Stewart, or even Gardner. The Peter Parker style has worked so well with the Spider-Man titles that it is probably why the integrated that into Kyle.
maenalus
11-28-2010, 10:24 PM
My mom saw the trailer a few days ago and said she thinks it looks awesome and wants to go see it in the theater. :D
Is she a fan of superhero movies, or is wanting to one unusual for her?
maenalus
11-28-2010, 10:39 PM
Also, the last shot where he's in the suit with him breathing, kind of creeped out a lot of people. Looks like they did too good of a job on the tightness of the cg suit.
They were creeped out by his breathing? That's odd.
I SEE SPIDEY
11-28-2010, 11:41 PM
But to the hardcore nerds, he's the affirmative action GL.Ofcourse as most hardcore nerds aren't black. They have no idea how nice it is to see a black Superhero to the black nerd fanbase. And no, I'm not calling anyone racist, I'm just saying that white fans of Superhero's have no idea what it's like to almost never see a Superhero who looks like you.
It's sad that certain idiots would see the movie cause,"Zomg a black guy has these super powers,therefor I gotta see the movie!"(people who weren't originally Green Lantern fans before the movie was made). The stereotypical group that is. It's quite shallow as well on the other hand but only if it was the opposite that is,I'm still waiting for one of those idiots to pull the race card by proclaiming that it's racist to not have the black guy play GL/John Stewart.I don't care that they are using Hal Jordon (as he was apparently the first GL) but I as a black female nerd who lives in America, I will never complain about a Superhero movies staring too many black people. It would be an added incentive for me to see a black Superhero movie because well, there are hardly any and I like seeing people who look like me once in a blue moon. Hell, I want to see an Asian, Latino and native American Superheros too.
Oh well, I guess all I deserve is Blade and Blade 2 and a terribly portrayed Storm..:whatever: (I love the Blade flicks BTW)
HighFivingMF
11-29-2010, 07:59 AM
I want a Static movie.
kedrell
11-29-2010, 09:26 AM
Ofcourse as most hardcore nerds aren't black. They have no idea how nice it is to see a black Superhero to the black nerd fanbase. And no, I'm not calling anyone racist, I'm just saying that white fans of Superhero's have no idea what it's like to almost never see a Superhero who looks like you.
I don't care that they are using Hal Jordon (as he was apparently the first GL) but I as a black female nerd who lives in America, I will never complain about a Superhero movies staring too many black people. It would be an added incentive for me to see a black Superhero movie because well, there are hardly any and I like seeing people who look like me once in a blue moon. Hell, I want to see an Asian, Latino and native American Superheros too.
Oh well, I guess all I deserve is Blade and Blade 2 and a terribly portrayed Storm..:whatever: (I love the Blad flicks BTW)
War Machine too.
HighFivingMF
11-29-2010, 09:33 AM
And Hancock! :hehe:
The Sage
11-29-2010, 10:06 AM
And Hancock! :hehe:
Yeah...that movie annoyed me. I hated how because it starred a black superhero that we had to have an almost obligated scene with rap music playing in the background. Ugh...:down:
terry78
11-29-2010, 11:07 AM
Yeah...that movie annoyed me. I hated how because it starred a black superhero that we had to have an almost obligated scene with rap music playing in the background. Ugh...:down:
Because we all like that hippity hop monkey music. :o
Deaths Head II
11-29-2010, 11:27 AM
And Hancock! :hehe:
And Shaq as Steel! :awesome:
HighFivingMF
11-29-2010, 11:30 AM
And the Halle Catwoman! (Why wasn't she called HalleCat? Like Alley Cat. But Halle!)
Was she a good kitty or a mean kitty in that? Never watched it.
Deaths Head II
11-29-2010, 11:45 AM
She was a good kitty. She fought against Sharon Stone who wore make up that made her skin tough like iron.
One thing funny about Steel was that he was so shown up by his sidekick, a nerdy girl in a wheelchair that shot out rockets and missles. That's gotta hurt his pride.
kedrell
11-29-2010, 12:53 PM
IMO, Steel is the worst "theatrically released" comic book movie ever made. I think it has the lowest rating of any CBM on IMDB(not that they are any authority on, well just about anything).
HighFivingMF
11-29-2010, 01:01 PM
She fought against Sharon Stone who wore make up that made her skin tough like iron.
Um... I uh... Hmm. Well then.
Deaths Head II
11-29-2010, 01:15 PM
IMO, Steel is the worst "theatrically released" comic book movie ever made. I think it has the lowest rating of any CBM on IMDB(not that they are any authority on, well just about anything).
It's a toss up between that or Catwoman for me. Halle Berry isn't as bad as Shaq but at least Steel had a plot that could have been good if they didn't make it goofy as all heck. The only somewhat interesting aspects of Catwoman's evil make up manufacturer plot were all ripoffs from the Crow.
It's unfortunate two of the worst super hero films out there both feature some of the few black superheroes to be ever put on film. It's kind of like the super heroine film curse.
dnno1
11-29-2010, 01:25 PM
Speaking of cat fights:
cbBlYfTbA44
maenalus
11-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Speaking of cat fights:
cbBlYfTbA44
:awesome:
mcallima
11-29-2010, 08:30 PM
3 of my students commented on my Green Lantern shirt today and said they were excited for the movie. None of them seem to be fanboys/girls.
dnno1
11-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Speaking of cat fights:
cbBlYfTbA44
:awesome:
I am now beginning to believe what a certain radio talk show host says that pigeons are either robots or intelligent beings from the planet Xenon.
Doc Samson
11-30-2010, 12:08 AM
Ofcourse as most hardcore nerds aren't black. They have no idea how nice it is to see a black Superhero to the black nerd fanbase. And no, I'm not calling anyone racist, I'm just saying that white fans of Superhero's have no idea what it's like to almost never see a Superhero who looks like you.
I don't care that they are using Hal Jordon (as he was apparently the first GL) but I as a black female nerd who lives in America, I will never complain about a Superhero movies staring too many black people. It would be an added incentive for me to see a black Superhero movie because well, there are hardly any and I like seeing people who look like me once in a blue moon. Hell, I want to see an Asian, Latino and native American Superheros too.
Oh well, I guess all I deserve is Blade and Blade 2 and a terribly portrayed Storm..:whatever: (I love the Blade flicks BTW)
And as a black man, I would have to say I agree, but I'm also not naive to the fact that the majority of the more popular superheroes were created many moons ago, and it stands to reason that the time period would account for a lot of the disparity. (Man, I miss when Spawn was cool)
That being said though, as I mentioned in another post, I tend to disagree that people have to be staunch comic book fans to appreciate a character. I believe it helps, certainly, but far be it for me to anoint anyone "worthy" enough to enjoy a character because they didn't discover them through the comic medium, a medium that hasn't translated to this generation.
If they're only familiar with GL through the cartoon where he's depicted as black, so be it, at least it brings awareness and the possibility of further interest which would then open the doors to further discovery. I think we can, at times, have an elitist attitude that contradicts the whole point. Superheroes are supposed to stretch and grow in order to sustain themselves from generation to generation, to be everlasting like a form of greek mythology, no matter the iteration
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