The Avengers: News and Speculation - Part 27A sub-section 12 [Archive] - Page 2

BigThor

02-05-2011, 05:22 PM

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Deadline (Finke): I'm hearing that How I Met Your Mother star Cobie Smulders has emerged as the front runner for the role of SHIELD Agent Maria Hill in the Joss Whedon-directed The Avengers

FINALLY, I was getting sick of people debating over whether Fury's side-kick was Maria or Janet. OF COURSE it was going to be Maria Hill (smh), and I'm glad Loki was confirmed as a villain so people can stop disputing the obvious.

Sawyer

02-05-2011, 05:23 PM

But less of her name in Lois's thread means more of Olivia Wilde's.... I fail to see how that's a good thing. :o

flickchick85

02-05-2011, 05:24 PM

But less of her name in Lois's thread means more of Olivia Wilde's.... I fail to see how that's a good thing. :o
Because she's a good option. :oldrazz:

djkris

02-05-2011, 05:24 PM

Goddammit, Smulders is Lois Lane! Why am I the only one who sees this?! :cmad:

No, man, I am with you on this one. Casting is a fleeting thing, maybe Smulders can be Lois. Bacarrin (sp?) is a dead ringer for either Maria Hill or The Wasp.

Chewy

02-05-2011, 05:29 PM

FINALLY, I was getting sick of people debating over whether Fury's side-kick was Maria or Janet. OF COURSE it was going to be Maria Hill (smh), and I'm glad Loki was confirmed as a villain so people can stop disputing the obvious.
People debated it pretty civilly for about 1 page, if that made you sick I don't think you're going to like what these threads are going to turn into once Cap/Thor are released :oldrazz:

Sawyer

02-05-2011, 05:33 PM

Because she's a good option. :oldrazz:

Eh.... I find it hard to imagine her being able to summon the spunk and heart it takes to play Lois.

Vartha

02-05-2011, 05:35 PM

personally I cannot see the Avengers WITHOUT Loki and keeping it in a realistic like marvel has been aiming at in the first place. lol

LuisTX85

02-05-2011, 05:36 PM

I don't know much about the actress's work since I've only seen brief glimpses of her in the HIMYM show!(never really seen a full episode)

But Maria Hill is a great logical choice and I think this girl can pull off the look!

Chewy

02-05-2011, 05:38 PM

Maria Hill:
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Sawyer

02-05-2011, 05:40 PM

Nick Fury is a huge fan of her Robin Sparkles days.

The Question

02-05-2011, 05:41 PM

I get it now. All of this Avengers stuff, all of this talk of community and isolation and healing through relationships and personal responsibility and loving the Marvel Universe and it's characters was a load of BS. All of this was an elaborate ruse for Whedon to enact his true master plan:

To direct every star of How I Met Your Mother in a film of TV show. He's three for five now.

Man's an evil genius.

Sawyer

02-05-2011, 05:43 PM

BigThor

02-05-2011, 05:44 PM

People debated it pretty civilly for about 1 page, if that made you sick I don't think you're going to like what these threads are going to turn into once Cap/Thor are released :oldrazz:

Yeah, but it was over a character that's going to have a supporting role is the Avengers. It was pretty obvious that Fury's side-kick was going to be Maria Hill, so that was just stupid to me.

Vartha

02-05-2011, 05:45 PM

Wonder what these extra shots with Sam are for? I mean it's obvious they'll be ending credits.

Vartha

02-05-2011, 05:46 PM

Yeah, but it was over a character that's going to have a supporting role is the Avengers. It was pretty obvious that Fury's side-kick was going to be Maria Hill, so that was just stupid to me.
maybe, maybe not. Loki could return as She-Loki. lol

BigThor

02-05-2011, 05:48 PM

maybe, maybe not. Loki could return as She-Loki. lol

Oh dear God, noooooo

Vartha

02-05-2011, 05:50 PM

Oh dear God, noooooo
lol yup THAT'd kill the movie right off. lol

flickchick85

02-05-2011, 05:54 PM

Eh.... I find it hard to imagine her being able to summon the spunk and heart it takes to play Lois.
I disagree, but really, I was just giving you hard time Sawyer. As I said, I'm not really familiar with Smulders (I tried to get into HIMYM, but it just didn't work for me) so I can't judge, and I don't have anything against her. I just don't think she suits Wonder Woman from a visual standpoint at all, so her support there really baffles me. Lois? Eh, I could kinda see it. But I really think they should go with more of a movie star for that one, which Wilde is well on her way to being (and as I said, we disagree on her being able to bring attributes necessary for the character). But Wilde isn't my top pick either, so anyway...

Have we heard anything regarding Sharon Carter in this? I was really hoping they were setting that up with Peggy in CA.

Chewy

02-05-2011, 06:01 PM

Have we heard anything regarding Sharon Carter in this? I was really hoping they were setting that up with Peggy in CA.
Nope, this is the first new casting we've heard since Ruffalo last comic-con

Vartha

02-05-2011, 06:03 PM

Wonder if anything will come out of Chicago Con?

BigThor

02-05-2011, 06:08 PM

lol yup THAT'd kill the movie right off. lol

Yep, I probably wouldn't even go see it :(

The Question

02-05-2011, 06:24 PM

As if we deserve any better. :o

Plus, to be fair, he got Aly before HIMYM.

That's probably what inspired him. He'll probably do Castle next.

Silvermoth

02-05-2011, 07:05 PM

It's very cool that Maria Hill is in this movie. Also that Joss and Kevin Feige want to make sure this stands on it's own feet so it doesn't feel like like "Iron man 3" or "Captain America 2".

Not so sure about Cobie Smulders for Maria though. I would have preferred someone older and tougher like Michelle Rodriguez. But that's not a major problem.

Spider-Vader

02-05-2011, 07:45 PM

I'm glad it's Maria Hill. Though, Mockingbird would of been better. *sigh* Hopefully in a potential Hawkeye movie. :/

Rock Sexton

02-05-2011, 09:09 PM

Whiskey Tango

02-05-2011, 09:14 PM

Just wanted to say that I hope that Cap, Thor, and Avengers can capture the comic feel TIH did. I'm watching it for like the 300th time and I seriously never tire of this film ......

Man I loved Incredible. I liked it even better than Iron Man.

BigThor

02-05-2011, 09:17 PM

Just wanted to say that I hope that Cap, Thor, and Avengers can capture the comic feel TIH did. I'm watching it for like the 300th time and I seriously never tire of this film ...... it perfectly meshed the Marvel Universe and did it before much of it had already been fleshed out.

^^^ I agree with this, I watch TIH atleast 3 times a day since I bought it on DVD a few weeks back.

It's probably my favorite Marvel film

WildcatNC

02-05-2011, 09:22 PM

Man I loved Incredible. I liked it even better than Iron Man.

Me too. I caught Iron Man on TV the other day and had to pop in TIH.

WildcatNC

02-05-2011, 09:24 PM

^^^ I agree with this, I watch TIH atleast 3 times a day since I bought it on DVD a few weeks back.

It's probably my favorite Marvel film

Jesus man. You have WAY to much time on your hands.

Sounds like you need a MMORG habit. :woot:

Rock Sexton

02-05-2011, 09:27 PM

Man I loved Incredible. I liked it even better than Iron Man.

Me too dude. I liked Iron Man and all, but it's not even close when I really compare the two.

Rock Sexton

02-05-2011, 09:28 PM

^^^ I agree with this, I watch TIH atleast 3 times a day since I bought it on DVD a few weeks back.

It's probably my favorite Marvel film

It's been on F/X all week and I've probably watched it almost every time it's been on.

flickchick85

02-05-2011, 09:32 PM

Nope, this is the first new casting we've heard since Ruffalo last comic-con
Thanks. If it's the 1st casting since Ruffalo, then I'm still holding out hope.

I still just can't get into TIH. It felt so...stale to me. Well, I take it back: the 2nd-half felt stale to me. I quite enjoyed the 1st half. And I did like William Hurt as Ross (hope he's in this somewhere). But I do hope Avengers is more Iron Man in tone than TIH. I mean, I want it to have a tone all its own, but if it has to be more like one than the other, I'd prefer it to be more IM-like. Just...bigger, and more epic like The Avengers should be.

BigThor

02-05-2011, 09:37 PM

Jesus man. You have WAY to much time on your hands.

Sounds like you need a MMORG habit. :woot:

Maybe I was exaggerating a "wee" bit, and I really only watch it when I get home at night (lol).

Rock Sexton

02-05-2011, 09:42 PM

Thanks. If it's the 1st casting since Ruffalo, then I'm still holding out hope.

I still just can't get into TIH. It felt so...stale to me. Well, I take it back: the 2nd-half felt stale to me. I quite enjoyed the 1st half. And I did like William Hurt as Ross (hope he's in this somewhere). But I do hope Avengers is more Iron Man in tone than TIH. I mean, I want it to have a tone all its own, but if it has to be more like one than the other, I'd prefer it to be more IM-like. Just...bigger, and more epic like The Avengers should be.

Don't get me wrong ... IM was good, but to me it was like one giant improv with a really small scale fight at the end. I thought it lacked the touch of drama. TIH to me captured most of the comic book magic I'd expect. Plenty of action/battle scenes .... and enough Marvel U nods to make any fan giddy. I still get stoked watching the Blonsky/Hulk battle on campus, it was like watching Cap for a few short moments. Not to mention the cinematography of that scene was absolutely stellar, as well as a few others. I really felt like the terrorists and Stane were very bland compared to Ross/Blonsky/Abomination .... and liek you said, Hurt was awesome as Thunderbolt Ross.

flickchick85

02-05-2011, 11:33 PM

Not to mention the cinematography of that scene was absolutely stellar, as well as a few others. I really felt like the terrorists and Stane were very bland compared to Ross/Blonsky/Abomination
The campus fight in TIH was definitely a highlight, I agree. I think where we disagree is in the villains. I love Tim Roth, but I wasn't feeling him in that movie at all. And when the final fight comes down to two CGI creatures duking it out, my eyes just glaze over. Which is why I find the action in Transformers painfully boring as well. I just don't think CGI has reached the point yet where that can be compelling to me.

I was kinda "meh" on Stane and the terrorists as well, but imo, their storyline felt more organic and personal to Tony, so I was therefore more invested in it. Iron Man just overall had a very grounded feel to me, while still being incredibly fun.

But yes, more Thunderbolt Ross! :yay:

BigThor

02-06-2011, 12:34 AM

The campus fight in TIH was definitely a highlight, I agree. I think where we disagree is in the villains. I love Tim Roth, but I wasn't feeling him in that movie at all. And when the final fight comes down to two CGI creatures duking it out, my eyes just glaze over. Which is why I find the action in Transformers painfully boring as well. I just don't think CGI has reached the point yet where that can be compelling to me.

But yes, more Thunderbolt Ross! :yay:

The campus fight scene was my favorite part of TIH, I liked the overall "tone" of TIH more than I did IM's.

But I can't see how you think Transformers or TIH's CGI isn't up to par, HUlk looked amazing & the Transformers looked magnificent.

WildcatNC

02-06-2011, 12:39 AM

Theres some dude claiming spoilers in the "Avengers villain rumored to be the Skrulls" thread if you guys wanna check it out.

Could be bull**** but its there.

flickchick85

02-06-2011, 01:13 AM

But I can't see how you think Transformers or TIH's CGI isn't up to par, HUlk looked amazing & the Transformers looked magnificent.
I didn't mean to suggest that Transformers' CGI wasn't up to par - on the contrary, it's some of the best I've seen. But at the end of the day, it's still two CGI creations who barely qualify as characters clanking against each other, which bores me. With TIH, the creatures had faces and character, which helps, but the CGI wasn't up to snuff there. It looked video game-y to me, and that look constantly reminded me that neither of these creatures are even there, so I couldn't get invested. When you throw in a real person to fight the Hulk, like in the campus fight, I can buy what I'm seeing. I need something tangible, that looks like I could touch, to ground the proceedings. But when all parties involved are obviously CGI like that last fight, I feel like I'm watching an animated sequence in formerly live-action film. Just doesn't work for me.

BigThor

02-06-2011, 02:11 AM

I didn't mean to suggest that Transformers' CGI wasn't up to par - on the contrary, it's some of the best I've seen. But at the end of the day, it's still two CGI creations who barely qualify as characters clanking against each other, which bores me. With TIH, the creatures had faces and character, which helps, but the CGI wasn't up to snuff there. It looked video game-y to me, and that look constantly reminded me that neither of these creatures are even there, so I couldn't get invested. When you throw in a real person to fight the Hulk, like in the campus fight, I can buy what I'm seeing. I need something tangible, that looks like I could touch, to ground the proceedings. But when all parties involved are obviously CGI like that last fight, I feel like I'm watching an animated sequence in formerly live-action film. Just doesn't work for me.

The Transformers robots were actually props that were only modified with CGI, they were as "tangible" as Iron Man's armor.

At times Abomination looked like a video game character, but he also looked pretty good at times and Hulk actually looked tangible in my opinion.

BigThor

02-06-2011, 02:12 AM

Theres some dude claiming spoilers in the "Avengers villain rumored to be the Skrulls" thread if you guys wanna check it out.

Could be bull**** but its there.

Yeah I saw that too

flickchick85

02-06-2011, 02:25 AM

The Transformers robots were actually props that were only modified with CGI, they were as "tangible" as Iron Man's armor.
Yes, but as I said, my problem wasn't the CGI in that - they seemed photo-real - it was the fact that they weren't even really characters to begin with. No heart, no face, no development. They weren't CGI characters, just CGI creations there to clank around. So all the clanking they did was kind of meaningless and boring, imo. The "tangibility" problem with the CGI was only something I had with TIH.

BigThor

02-06-2011, 02:32 AM

Yes, but as I said, my problem wasn't the CGI in that - they seemed photo-real - it was the fact that they weren't even really characters to begin with. No heart, no face, no development. They weren't CGI characters, just CGI creations there to clank around. So all the clanking they did was kind of meaningless and boring, imo. The "tangibility" problem with the CGI was only something I had with TIH.

It's a movie about giant robots, what else were you expecting?

TIH's CGI was actually good, but Abomination did look a bit "iffy" from time to time.

flickchick85

02-06-2011, 02:39 AM

It's a movie about giant robots, what else were you expecting?
A movie about giant robots, not whiny humans with some fighting robots sprinkled in for flavor. :cwink:

TIH's CGI was actually good, but Abomination did look a bit "iffy" from time to time.Strangely enough, I found Ang Lee's Hulk to be a a more tangible creation than the TIH Hulk. I honestly think the cinematography in TIH is largely to blame.

BigThor

02-06-2011, 04:02 AM

A movie about giant robots, not whiny humans with some fighting robots sprinkled in for flavor. :cwink:

Strangely enough, I found Ang Lee's Hulk to be a a more tangible creation than the TIH Hulk. I honestly think the cinematography in TIH is largely to blame.

Good point, but I'm confused I thought you said you weren't interested in Transformers because they lacked "heart" and "character". I would've loved for the Transformers series to be more "robot centered" as well.

Yeah but tangebility is only one aspect, TIH's Hulk better looking in every other way. His skin textures were PHENOMENAL, you get to see all those rippling veins throughout his skin & his skin even had "flushing effects.

If the Hulk was "real", he would look alot like the Hulk from TIH.

Vartha

02-06-2011, 09:24 AM

Thebumwhowalks

02-06-2011, 09:37 AM

The only thing I personally didn't like about the TIH Hulk was it looked like Liefield's Hulk....I don't like Liefield's Hulk. The chin just seems too pointy for my taste. I like the broad chin and jaw on Hulk.

That's because in both Hulk movies they have based the Hulk's face on the actor playing Banner, which is a mistake imo. It's almost as if they are pandering to the actor, as if to say, 'yeah, you really are the Hulk as well!', when what they should do is look at cb designs for the Hulk, and choose a very good one, that looks more like a monster, rather than just a big version of the actor with green skin.
The hulk in the books never resembled Banner, it's a very constricting design conceit, i hope they won't go that way in the Avengers.
edit: I think the best shot on film of the Hulk's face is in the ang Lee flick when Nic Nolte has his face on his cheek, he kind of looks like the hulk from the old Rampaging Hulk magazine there(but not really, he still looks like a big green baby as well), and looks great when he gets angry there too. But in other shots in the desert, he looks too much like Bana, and a bit bland as a result. Maybe the close up did something there to benefit the hulk's face, I don't know, the CG was at it's best there too. With more detail it looked a much better design anyway, in fact it looked completely different from the mid and long shots in the desert. Maybe the texture made him look more monstrous in close up.

terry78

02-06-2011, 09:42 AM

That's because in both Hulk movies they have based the Hulk's face on the actor playing Banner, which is a mistake imo. It's almost as if they are pandering to the actor, as if to say, 'yeah, you really are the Hulk as well!', when what they should do is look at cb designs for the Hulk, and choose a very good one, that looks more like a monster, rather than just a big version of the actor with green skin.
The hulk in the books never resembled Banner, it's a very constricting design conceit, i hope they won't go that way in the Avengers.

Yeah, but it gives it a sense of realism in that sense. In the real world, if you turned into something like that over and over, it would still resemble you because it's still your body.

Doctor Jones

02-06-2011, 10:07 AM

TIH was great. I liked it as much as IM.

But it reminds me that Norton won't be in Avengers. :csad:

Vartha

02-06-2011, 10:17 AM

Yeah I know they based both Hulks off the actor's faces. They don't HAVE to go completely with the actor's face. Treat Hulk like a second being altogether. it works better in my opinion.
Hopefully Rufflo's broader jaw and Chin will change that in Avengers.

That's because in both Hulk movies they have based the Hulk's face on the actor playing Banner, which is a mistake imo. It's almost as if they are pandering to the actor, as if to say, 'yeah, you really are the Hulk as well!', when what they should do is look at cb designs for the Hulk, and choose a very good one, that looks more like a monster, rather than just a big version of the actor with green skin.
The hulk in the books never resembled Banner, it's a very constricting design conceit, i hope they won't go that way in the Avengers.
edit: I think the best shot on film of the Hulk's face is in the ang Lee flick when Nic Nolte has his face on his cheek, he kind of looks like the hulk from the old Rampaging Hulk magazine there(but not really, he still looks like a big green baby as well), and looks great when he gets angry there too. But in other shots in the desert, he looks too much like Bana, and a bit bland as a result. Maybe the close up did something there to benefit the hulk's face, I don't know, the CG was at it's best there too. With more detail it looked a much better design anyway, in fact it looked completely different from the mid and long shots in the desert. Maybe the texture made him look more monstrous in close up.

Vartha

02-06-2011, 10:22 AM

Yeah, but it gives it a sense of realism in that sense. In the real world, if you turned into something like that over and over, it would still resemble you because it's still your body.
See Stan Lee created Hulk as a combination of Frankenstein's monster and Hyde of Jekyll and Hyde. Hyde has rarely looked like Jekyll.
I loved TIH, That was my only gripe about the film. The FACE.

Iceman

02-06-2011, 10:52 AM

Hulk looks amazing in TIH. If they make zero improvements on his look from then, I won't be complaining too hard.

I would rate that film equal to Iron Man if Tim Blake Nelson hadn't spoiled it.

Whiskey Tango

02-06-2011, 11:12 AM

I would rate that film equal to Iron Man if Tim Blake Nelson hadn't spoiled it.

So many people online have given me **** for railing against that guy's godawful performance. My Lord he was awful. Cringeworthy!

Iceman

02-06-2011, 11:20 AM

So many people online have given me **** for railing against that guy's godawful performance. My Lord he was awful. Cringeworthy!Really? What..do most people think he was good?

Wow, I guess I never got involved in discussion about TIH that much but I just guessed everyone would think his performance was embarrassing.

:csad:

Rock Sexton

02-06-2011, 11:32 AM

TIH was great. I liked it as much as IM.

But it reminds me that Norton won't be in Avengers. :csad:

Sigh. If only we could've gotten Avengers with him ....

Rock Sexton

02-06-2011, 11:36 AM

So many people online have given me **** for railing against that guy's godawful performance. My Lord he was awful. Cringeworthy!

Really? I liked him a lot, just wish there would've been a little more development of him. I think in some ways he comes on really strong in such short screen time, almost like he's cramming.

Whiskey Tango

02-06-2011, 12:09 PM

Really? What..do most people think he was good?

Wow, I guess I never got involved in discussion about TIH that much but I just guessed everyone would think his performance was embarrassing.

:csad:

You would think that's the case but a surprising amount of people seem to have no problems with him. I don't get it.

Really? I liked him a lot, just wish there would've been a little more development of him. I think in some ways he comes on really strong in such short screen time, almost like he's cramming.

Could be. He's pretty clearly going for 'unethical and somewhat crazed scientist' but he does so with zero subtlety and it just comes across as really amateurish.

flickchick85

02-06-2011, 01:23 PM

Good point, but I'm confused I thought you said you weren't interested in Transformers because they lacked "heart" and "character". I would've loved for the Transformers series to be more "robot centered" as well.
Yes, my problem is that they existed merely to fight each other. We didn't get time to get to know any of them. So at the end of the day, it was a bunch of human problems, with some robot fights thrown in. That's what I mean by lacking character and heart - if you're gonna have CGI characters fighting, I need to care about them somewhat to care about the fight. I didn't, because I didn't even consider them characters - just CGI creations made to fight each other. Boring.

Yeah but tangebility is only one aspect, TIH's Hulk better looking in every other way. His skin textures were PHENOMENAL, you get to see all those rippling veins throughout his skin & his skin even had "flushing effects.

If the Hulk was "real", he would look alot like the Hulk from TIH.
Except he'd actually look real. :oldrazz:

As I said though, I think the cinematography had a lot to do with him looking fake to me. In some scenes, I thought he looked great, but the lighting and "look" of other scenes absolutely ruined the illusion for me.

Bren

02-06-2011, 02:55 PM

I always thought of TIH's Hulk as too.... I dunno, 'handsome' for Hulk? Nor did I for a second think, "ah, I can see a bit of Norton there". Whether they used his features or not.
Imo there should be no requirement for the Hulk to be based off the Banner actor's looks. In the same way, we could almost say that TIH's hulk was 'scrawnier' than Lee's Hulk, because Bana is heavier-built than Norton - it shouldn't matter.

I just hope that we get a genuinely devastating Hulk, in that you really think this guy can level a city with a lil bit o time.

marcvader

02-06-2011, 04:21 PM

.........

marcvader

02-06-2011, 04:21 PM

They definitely need to improve upon the Hulk CG from TIH and not leave it status quo.

Blackman

02-06-2011, 04:30 PM

I just hope The Hulk isnt treated poorly. I hope that Hulk does get some recognition. I know theyre focusing on the others but Hulk really deserves to be on the Avengers Assemble logo.
I also hope that Banner is treated properly.

marcvader

02-06-2011, 04:45 PM

The big 3 of the Avengers are shown as it should be.

BigThor

02-06-2011, 11:19 PM

They definitely need to improve upon the Hulk CG from TIH and not leave it status quo.

Hulk looked great in TIH in my opinion, but I agree they should improve the CG just a bit more for the Avengers.

I like Hulk's overall design in TIH and his skin textures were impressive, those veins were a nice touch as well.

Kirmit

02-07-2011, 06:44 AM

Hulk looked great in TIH in my opinion, but I agree they should improve the CG just a bit more for the Avengers.

I like Hulk's overall design in TIH and his skin textures were impressive, those veins were a nice touch as well.

I think they could improve on the design, especially his chest, which just looked too stretched in TIH imo. Facially I wouldn't mind if they went with TIH's original concept where hulk looked meaner and for lack of a better word, scarier.

SuperSAINT

02-07-2011, 08:12 AM

http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=29629

Iron_Stark

02-07-2011, 08:17 AM

Spot on casting if true.

marvelrobbins

02-07-2011, 08:19 AM

If true this should strongly hint at Skrulls being Included.I also would not be surprised
on Joss whedon wanting to Include the character of Carol Danvers.She has X-Men connection.After Rogue absorbed MS Marvel powers Carol Danvers hung around the X-Men for awhile till ROgue joined the time and she joined the Starjammers as Binary.

babykhris

02-07-2011, 09:26 AM

See my Coulson is Mahr Vell theory is coming together. If we get Carol Danvers in Avengers there's NO WAY we don't see Mahr Vell.

Coulson has to be Mahr Vell.

OptimusPrime114

02-07-2011, 09:37 AM

See my Coulson is Mahr Vell theory is coming together. If we get Carol Danvers in Avengers there's NO WAY we don't see Mahr Vell.

Coulson has to be Mahr Vell.

You're crazy. First of all, Mar-Vell has a full head of blonde hair. Second, I don't believe this rumor. I'm not gonna set myself up for another fall.

babykhris

02-07-2011, 09:50 AM

Have you noticed that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has leaned more towards the Ultimate/Avengers cartoon Universe.

We have Sam Jackson Nick Fury.
Fury not in WWII, but his dad Jack Fury.
If you watch Avengers EMH they are going with the cooler Ultimate Universe version of Captain Mahr Vell.

Iceman

02-07-2011, 09:56 AM

I'm fine with Carol Danvers being in the background of this film with a potential setup to be Ms Marvel in a sequel. A woman with real powers (masculine hero type powers rather than agility/invisibility) would change it up nicely. 1st film is too early for a full reveal though IMO.

marcvader

02-07-2011, 10:11 AM

Don't mind ms. Marvel being set up as long as Mar-Vell gets his due.

Whiskey Tango

02-07-2011, 10:17 AM

http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=29629

I'm currently boning this chick in Mass Effect 2 and Carol is a damn cool character so I hope this isn't a hoax. The thought of Yvonne in Carol's outfit is making me tingly. :awesome:

babykhris

02-07-2011, 10:22 AM

Don't mind ms. Marvel being set up as long as Mar-Vell gets his due.

Are you ok with the Ultimate Mahr Vell being used?

marcvader

02-07-2011, 10:49 AM

I'm alright with it cause 616 Mar-Vell's soldier costume was similar to that anyways. The only issue I have is him having the blue skin. I liked that him being pink skinned in Kree society gave him issues be had to crap with.

Excelsior.

02-07-2011, 11:06 AM

Aren't they overstuffing this movie?

marvelrobbins

02-07-2011, 11:14 AM

If Carol Danvers Is In movie she will just be Shield Agent.

WildcatNC

02-07-2011, 11:23 AM

Aren't they overstuffing this movie?

Not really. She'll most likely be just a Shield agent. Gives them options for the future though.

Geeks are the only ones who will know who half of these characters are as well. Conners in Spiderman, Leader in the Hulk, Dr Blake in Thor. The GA won't have ANY idea who these characters are, Danvers either. Will just be filler characters to most people.

I kind of like the Geek nuggets in there.

marcvader

02-07-2011, 11:24 AM

It feels like it.

Stringer

02-07-2011, 11:54 AM

I doubt any of the additions will be a focal point of the story. They'll be fleshed out more in the sequels. That's my guess, at least.

Sebastos

02-07-2011, 12:05 PM

http://**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=29629

If this is true, perfect casting!

02-07-2011, 12:12 PM

**************.. lawl.

Sebastos

02-07-2011, 12:27 PM

Yeah....:csad:

Pumpkin_Bomb

02-07-2011, 12:43 PM

GhostPoet

02-07-2011, 12:58 PM

Ok, i'm making my prediction right now.

The Avengers will end up going to Asgard to stop Loki who has the cosmic cube. (perhaps found after the defeat of Red Skull) But how he gets it I can't be sure...I suspect though that they will have to travel to Asgard to defeat Loki.

marcvader

02-07-2011, 01:13 PM

I would be cool with that going down in the third act.

Iceman

02-07-2011, 01:42 PM

I don't know if the Ms. Marvel rumours and whatnot are true, but I think if they're going to put in other heroes, it'd be cool if they were just kind of in the background, like the non-X-Men mutants in the X-men movies. When the team is being put together and walked through the SHIELD facility, other heroes could be seen training and whatnot in the background. A quick line from Fury could explain them as either being in training, or the makings of an alternate Avengers line-up to be deployed on a different mission, that kind of thing. It'd make a cool nod to the fans, allow them to foreshadow roster possibilities for the sequel(s), and help establish the Marvel U as being bigger than just what we've seen so far, all without eating up too much screen time and overdoing the roster.Would be great to see.

Ok, i'm making my prediction right now.

The Avengers will end up going to Asgard to stop Loki who has the cosmic cube. (perhaps found after the defeat of Red Skull) But how he gets it I can't be sure...I suspect though that they will have to travel to Asgard to defeat Loki.Well fighting through Loki's minions (or armies :woot:) in Asgard before confronting him with the Cosmic Cube up for grabs would certainly be epic enough & would justify putting together all these heroes. Hopefully Hulk will have converted back & will be helping out as a team member by then. Of course the budget would need to be £500m to do justice to all this!

Spider-Vader

02-07-2011, 02:04 PM

I assume the new Thor commercial put an end to the 'movie Thor won't be super powerful' debate a few pages ago? Come ooooon fair Thor vs Hulk fight!

Iceman

02-07-2011, 02:16 PM

Super-powerful Thor!! He doesn't have to lose, he can just fail at containing a raging mind-controlled Hulk without assistance. Pretty respectable!

Iron_Stark

02-07-2011, 02:41 PM

After watching the trailers for Battle: Los Angeles and Tranfor,ers 3, this movie needs some action sequences that will make Bay and the other director go DAMN.

Spideyfan93

02-07-2011, 02:54 PM

Can you guys imagine a SB spot next year for Avengers?

One money shot showing the whole team getting ready to kick ass will spark forest fires!

Chewy

02-07-2011, 04:05 PM

This made me smile

MO358Rg1G5c

Whiskey Tango

02-07-2011, 04:14 PM

:awesome:

Blackman

02-07-2011, 04:19 PM

yeah that was sick
I cant wait for some nice fan trailers. I hope silverlightsaber will make one

Doctor Jones

02-07-2011, 04:24 PM

Well that was goddamn awesome. That got me giddy as hell.

flickchick85

02-07-2011, 04:24 PM

Yeah, I just can't bring myself to even remotely believe that CBM article. Which is a shame, because I think that would be perfect casting. Oh well.

And wow, it's just starting to sink in for me that at this time next year, we'll be talking about the Avengers SB spot. That notion is SO surreal to me.

Chewy

02-07-2011, 04:26 PM

The day after Cap comes out, we'll be discussing the awesome SDCC trailer and waiting patiently for the inevitable leak :awesome:

LuisTX85

02-07-2011, 04:29 PM

And wow, it's just starting to sink in for me that at this time next year, we'll be talking about the Avengers SB spot. That notion is SO surreal to me.

Indeed!.....Got goosebumps even thinking of the possibilities.

marcvader

02-07-2011, 04:40 PM

Damn, the Marvel U is finally almost upon us. Cap and Thor were the last of the mohicans to be put to film. For shame they couldn't all be under one house, could you imagine that glory?

Iceman

02-07-2011, 05:37 PM

Damn, the Marvel U is finally almost upon us. Cap and Thor were the last of the mohicans to be put to film. For shame they couldn't all be under one house, could you imagine that glory?It'll happen one day. Believe!

Spideyfan93

02-07-2011, 05:42 PM

When that happens, I'll be older than my deceased grandfather. The greediness of studios will prevent that from happening.

Blackman

02-07-2011, 05:45 PM

When that happens, I'll be older than my deceased grandfather. The greediness of studios will prevent that from happening.

I wouldnt mind most if not all of them coming under Disney.
Its not really greediness thats preventing all the characters to be under Disney

spideyboy_1111

02-07-2011, 06:13 PM

I wouldnt mind most if not all of them coming under Disney.
Its not really greediness thats preventing all the characters to be under Disney

fox's greed is... especially since they magically seem to be surpassing the contracts regulations on Fantastic Four and Daredevil franchises.... they should be back at marvel/disney now

RaZaTrOn

02-07-2011, 06:38 PM

I'm slightly confused about something...

Thor takes place today, so the Asgard stuff must do as well. Was it said that we would see the Cosmic Cube in the film and it would be the connection between Thor and Captain America?

If it's not shown then my point doesn't matter.

This means that we see the cosmic cube in Asgard 2010 then surely the Red Skull loses it and it gets returned to Asgard because he has it in the 40's right? But what was it doing on Earth in the first place? Could it be that the Red Skull getting it is the reason Odin decides to collect the things of power?

Or could Asgard be out of time?

I put it here because it's about both Thor and Cap :)

Dr Lee

02-07-2011, 06:47 PM

as norse Gods... don't you think that the Asgardians have power over time itself?

RaZaTrOn

02-07-2011, 06:49 PM

as norse Gods... don't you think that the Asgardians have power over time itself?

Yeah but it's a bit of a mindf*** and then there's the whole question of why was he banished to 2010 etc.. lol

kaijunexus

02-07-2011, 06:50 PM

fox's greed is... especially since they magically seem to be surpassing the contracts regulations on Fantastic Four and Daredevil franchises.... they should be back at marvel/disney now

Is that true? How do you know this?

Dr Lee

02-07-2011, 06:53 PM

Yeah but it's a bit of a mindf*** and then there's the whole question of why was he banished to 2010 etc.. lol

there's probably a very good reason....one i can't think of atm...

Iron_Stark

02-07-2011, 07:12 PM

This made me smile

MO358Rg1G5c

Siiiiiick!

Chewy

02-07-2011, 07:29 PM

Cobie Smulders is in final negotiations to take on a role in Marvel's The Avengers. Disney will release the superhero ensemble film, which is being written and directed by Joss Whedon, on May 4, 2012.
Smulders will play a key member of the espionage agency SHIELD, run by Nick Fury, who appeared in the first two Iron Man films in the guise of Samuel L. Jackson. Like Jackson, Smulders will have a slew of options on her for the character, which could extend through any number of other Marvel Universe film projects.
Heat Vision wrote about the screen tests for the role that Marvel conducted last week.
Smulder would join Scarlett Johansson (as the Black Widow), Robert Downey Jr. (Iron Man), Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye), Chris Evans (Captain America), Mark Ruffalo (Hulk) and Chris Hemsworth (Thor). Avengers is scheduled to start shooting in late April.
Repped by UTA and Roar, Smulders stars on the CBS series How I Met Your Mother.http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Spider-Man Luvr28

02-07-2011, 07:29 PM

Cobie Smulders is in final negotiations to take on a role in Marvel's The Avengers. Disney will release the superhero ensemble film, which is being written and directed by Joss Whedon, on May 4, 2012.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Spider-Man Luvr28

02-07-2011, 07:29 PM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Lulz. We posted the same thing at the same time! :awesome:

Sebastos

02-07-2011, 07:32 PM

I'm seeing double. :wow:

jmc

02-07-2011, 07:32 PM

Good for her, only problem I guess is she probably won't get much screen time.

Sebastos

02-07-2011, 07:37 PM

Gamma Burst

02-07-2011, 08:31 PM

Cobie Smulders is in final negotiations to take on a role in Marvel's The Avengers. Disney will release the superhero ensemble film, which is being written and directed by Joss Whedon, on May 4, 2012.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice!:up:

WillardNation

02-07-2011, 08:32 PM

Cobie Smulders is in final negotiations to take on a role in Marvel's The Avengers. Disney will release the superhero ensemble film, which is being written and directed by Joss Whedon, on May 4, 2012.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

:up:

Pumpkin_Bomb

02-07-2011, 08:39 PM

Great news, I love Cobie.

spideyboy_1111

02-07-2011, 08:54 PM

Is that true? How do you know this?

Marvel Studios licensing agreement is pretty standard knowledge on these boards, the original agreement for all marvel properties at other studios (universal, fox, sony, newline, etc...) was that as long as the studios continue making films, their contract would be renewed. If they failed to put out a film to one of the franchises (sequels, spin-offs, etc...) within X number of years, the property goes back to marvel.

i believe those number of years would be 6.

Elektra came out in 2005, and Fantastic Four 2 came out in 2007. This means fox should be losing the Daredevil franchise rights this year... and it's also why they keep milking the x-men franchise

batnkevlar

02-07-2011, 08:59 PM

I love Cobie to death. My only complaint is that they wasted her on Maria Hill...

marcvader

02-07-2011, 09:15 PM

I heard it was 7 years and they can lose DD in 2012 and all it needs is to be in production by then and not necessarily out by then.

BigThor

02-07-2011, 09:28 PM

I assume the new Thor commercial put an end to the 'movie Thor won't be super powerful' debate a few pages ago? Come ooooon fair Thor vs Hulk fight!

Yeah you're right, but I don't see why the Destroyer being in the movie didn't settle the "is Thor gonna be powerful enough to fight Hulk" doubts.

Super-powerful Thor!! He doesn't have to lose, he can just fail at containing a raging mind-controlled Hulk without assistance. Pretty respectable!

That would be great, I would definately be satisfied with that outcome:thor:

spideyboy_1111

02-07-2011, 10:03 PM

I heard it was 7 years and they can lose DD in 2012 and all it needs is to be in production by then and not necessarily out by then.

and i don't think being green lit counts. Fan 4 and DD have had no news period other then fox saying they wanna do reboots. I really hope Disney starts chiming in and buying properties back

marcvader

02-07-2011, 10:10 PM

Correct. I hope that if there are ever any rumbles of possible casting that they're just ploys to raise the price. The studio can produce some straight to video crap which is scary.

spideyboy_1111

02-07-2011, 10:18 PM

they have to be theatrical releases. not D2DVD

PyroChamber

02-07-2011, 11:30 PM

Well, now it's official...

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125790-cobie-smulders-confirmed-for-the-avengers

02-07-2011, 11:36 PM

Yes, it was posted. :)

Rac

02-07-2011, 11:55 PM

Cobie Smulders is in final negotiations to take on a role in Marvel's The Avengers. Disney will release the superhero ensemble film, which is being written and directed by Joss Whedon, on May 4, 2012.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/cobie-smulders-final-negotiations-avengers-97229?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I wonder if she'll cut her hair.

The producers of HIMYM won't necessarily allow it.

marvelrobbins

02-08-2011, 12:09 AM

Well I hope Cobie Smolders can prove Joss Whedon's faith In her.

I am remain skeptical that we will actully see reboots of Fantastic Four and Daredevil at fox.Sony had to go In production on second Ghost rider to keep the rights.So Fox may not have the daredevil rights too much longer.I wonder how long New Line will keep Blade.The series was cancled back In 2006.Marvel got the punisher back and the reboot came out In 2008.

WillardNation

02-08-2011, 12:16 AM

I approve of this casting.

Chewy

02-08-2011, 12:19 AM

Sawyer

02-08-2011, 12:21 AM

This makes me :csad:

spideyboy_1111

02-08-2011, 12:23 AM

the thomas jane punisher film did pretty decent... wasn't a huge hit by any means... but didn't bomb at all

jmc

02-08-2011, 12:48 AM

Hopefully this will lead to bigger and better things for this young lady, been a fan of hers for a while now. Well done Cobie.

Chewy

02-08-2011, 12:54 AM

Haha jmc Marvel keeps snatching up your Wonder Woman suggestions. First Jaimie, now Cobie

jmc

02-08-2011, 01:27 AM

The way WB are treating the character at the moment someone else may as well use them, no sense wasting good talent on a project that's not going to eventuate. I'm more glad those girls are getting some time in the spotlight, especially Jaimie.

Silvermoth

02-08-2011, 02:03 AM

I would have thought Cobie might be too young to play Maria Hill. What a shame. Oh well, I like her as a person so I'll live.

jmc

02-08-2011, 02:31 AM

Is 28 too young?

Crockett

02-08-2011, 03:54 AM

So it's official that Cobie got the role, that's good.

Iron_Stark

02-08-2011, 07:07 AM

Whoever cast her is a dumbass.

She better cut her hair, dye it black, get a tan and knock people's socks off.

SuperSAINT

02-08-2011, 07:07 AM

This made me smile

MO358Rg1G5c

Awesome find, mate!

Whiskey Tango

02-08-2011, 07:21 AM

Whoever cast her is a dumbass.

She better cut her hair, dye it black, get a tan and knock people's socks off.

Or what? You gonna revolt? :whatever:

Pumpkin_Bomb

02-08-2011, 08:17 AM

Cobie knocks socks off perpetually. If your socks remain unknocked, I'm afraid the problem is your socks. They're defective.

Suzanne78

02-08-2011, 08:54 AM

This made me smile

MO358Rg1G5c

Ahhhh!! Perfection.

I hope this is the start of more Avengers videos to come. :awesome:

Whiskey Tango

02-08-2011, 08:59 AM

I was planning to do one with the same music but decided to wait for the full Cap trailer. Snooze and lose (but I might still do it!)

BigThor

02-08-2011, 09:17 AM

This made me smile

MO358Rg1G5c

Oh ****, this looks amazing they used the perfect amount of each hero and all of them got their chance to shine :).

My only complain is that they should've showed a clip of Hulk after he put on the car "boxing gloves" when the music had him roaring in the background.

kguillou

02-08-2011, 10:54 AM

Man...i was really rooting for Morena Baccarin to be Hill. I have no problem with Colbie but Baccarin looks the part AND she's a Whedon alumni. Oh well...

marvelrobbins

02-08-2011, 11:15 AM

I laregly agree with you.Morena would be perfect.

I was really hoping for some whedon Alumi In the film but I think It IS safe to say Inless you count Onetime Angel Guest Star Jeremy Renner and Cabin In The Woods Co-star
Chris Hemsworth we will not be getting any.

kguillou

02-08-2011, 11:25 AM

Yeah she would have been perfect but maybe she's too busy filming V or something? Or maybe Whedon just wants to start fresh and not use anybody he's worked with before for a change?

marvelrobbins

02-08-2011, 11:38 AM

V has wraped for the season.ABC cut them to 10 from 13.There Is a chance of third season at midseason next season.Morena actully has freer schedule than Codi Smolders does.She has at least 1 more year on How I met Your Mother.Depending If next season
Is the last.

Son of Coul

02-08-2011, 11:59 AM

Whoever cast her is a dumbass.

She better cut her hair, dye it black, get a tan and knock people's socks off.
Yeah how can they cast somebody without short hair???

Chewy

02-08-2011, 12:07 PM

ONLY Morena Baccarin could play this part because she already cut her hair

JAK®

02-08-2011, 12:08 PM

That reminds me of people in the Superman forums only considering actors who are already bald for Lex Luthor.

PyroChamber

02-08-2011, 12:24 PM

ONLY Morena Baccarin could play this part because she already cut her hairNow that I think about, other than working with Whedon before, is this the only reason people wanted Morena?

Son of Coul

02-08-2011, 12:29 PM

If you worked with Whedon, you're a sure thing for fancasting but not casting. Ask Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, and Morena Baccarin. She's a fine actress judging by Firefly, but didn't show any exemplary talent that would would make her stand out above Smulders or anything- least not that I've seen.

BigThor

02-08-2011, 12:33 PM

That reminds me of people in the Superman forums only considering actors who are already bald for Lex Luthor.

Smh...:doh:

LuisTX85

02-08-2011, 12:54 PM

I don't know much about Codie's work!,and she don't really look the part.....Although that could easily be worked out.

I'm happy about Hill!

Majik1387

02-08-2011, 01:12 PM

Thank god we got Smulders.
Thank god Baccarin will continue to be a fan-casting wet dream.

the_ultimate_evil

02-08-2011, 01:26 PM

i dont see the problem she's a good actress and there is such a thing as a wig. its a good bit of casting but i forgot it wasn't the fanboy pick so therefore all hells gonna break loose

BigThor

02-08-2011, 01:45 PM

i dont see the problem she's a good actress and there is such a thing as a wig. its a good bit of casting but i forgot it wasn't the fanboy pick so therefore all hells gonna break loose

Yep, sadly that's how things go round here :csad:

Iron_Stark

02-08-2011, 02:56 PM

i dont see the problem she's a good actress and there is such a thing as a wig. its a good bit of casting but i forgot it wasn't the fanboy pick so therefore all hells gonna break loose

Wait isn't she the #1 fanboy pick though? I've seen many posts where everyone wanted her for Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Lois Lane, Wasp, Mary Jane, etc.

Well at least she won't be popping up in anymore fanboy casting threads.

WillardNation

02-08-2011, 03:36 PM

That reminds me of people in the Superman forums only considering actors who are already bald for Lex Luthor.

That reminds me of MarvelComix85 in the casting thread casting people because of their height and they know martial arts.

Gunga Diner

02-08-2011, 04:07 PM

Whoever cast her is a dumbass.

She better cut her hair, dye it black, get a tan and knock people's socks off.
Would it be a betrayal of the character and comic-book industry at large if she DIDN'T cut her hair?

Pumpkin_Bomb

02-08-2011, 04:22 PM

She'll probably cut her hair, but I don't know if they'll go quite as short as it typically is in the comics.

...it just occurred to me that we're going to be getting Scarlett Johansson and Cobie Smulders in the same movie, sometimes at the same time. Thanks, heterosexuality.

Iron_Stark

02-08-2011, 04:29 PM

Would it be a betrayal of the character and comic-book industry at large if she DIDN'T cut her hair?

Her having short hair is part of her character. I'll look for the comic and post a scan if I can find it, but I remember her saying she purposely cutting her hair short, joining the military and not taking crap from anyone because of her daddy issues.

Also how about if Stark shaved his mustache and goatee, how about Thor getting a flattop or Cap growing out his hair like a hippie or Wolverine dying his hair red and getting corn rolls?

That would look stupid on those characters, right? Why? Because what they have now and from their inception are features that define them. (Except for Stark, but he still has facial hair and the only people that only have mustaches are porn stars and dudes that are registered sex offenders :o)

Casius--J

02-08-2011, 04:33 PM

Damn I really thought this was going to Morena, oh well I'm not that disappointed by this news just glad to see this character being used.

Dr Lee

02-08-2011, 04:37 PM

so a little bit of long hair is going to destroy a character?

I say good luck to her...be interesting to see how Joss writes her....

spideyboy_1111

02-08-2011, 04:39 PM

well... i kinda gotta agree that i hope she has at least decently short hair in the film... there's really no reason she shouldn't. there's things called wigs too...

maria hill other then being a stern kick ass woman really only has one other recognizable feature... which is her hair

marcvader

02-08-2011, 04:55 PM

I've always seen Hill as looking very military that actually went well with her attitude. Don't think they're going with that.

Aztec

02-08-2011, 07:38 PM

I wonder what role she will be playing in this? My guess is that she probably will not have a lot of screen time but they will use her appearance to set up future SHIELD drama.

Speaking of which I wonder just how much action the SHIELD members of the Avengers Initiative (Nick Fury, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Agent Coulson, and Maria Hill) will get in this? I have to imagine that the Big 4 (Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk) will be getting the lion's share of the action. Or perhaps a lesser, more human threat (like Hydra), will be who SHIELD fights while the Big 4 take on the main baddies: Loki & company?

Eagle

02-08-2011, 09:31 PM

Speaking of which I wonder just how much action the SHIELD members of the Avengers Initiative (Nick Fury, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Agent Coulson, and Maria Hill) will get in this? I have to imagine that the Big 4 (Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk) will be getting the lion's share of the action. Or perhaps a lesser, more human threat (like Hydra), will be who SHIELD fights while the Big 4 take on the main baddies: Loki & company?
You don't think Hawkeye will fight with Cap, Iron Man, Thor, & Hulk?
I would hope he gets in that group, too much of a good character to be pushed to the background.

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 12:21 AM

Chewy

02-09-2011, 12:31 AM

Now, I am not 100% sure about the reliability of this spy. No offense to him, but he’s a reader and I don’t know him from Adam.

But he works at a television station in New York and got an email press release about a chance for fans to meet the cast of S.H.I.E.L.D. from the Avengers film during principal photography in 2011. Clearly, the spy wanted to remain anonymous, just in case the studio gets angry at the television station, so that’s why we’ve removed any identifying information from the release.

But this also implies that a portion of filming will be done in New York, which seems unusual. Most of the Marvel movies have had cities like Vancouver fill in for New York since it’s so damned expensive. But it’s not impossible that they could have some limited shooting there.

Additionally, this states that Quasar will be in the film and played by Kevin Pennington. Will he be in his superhero guise in the film?

I just want to reiterate that this is a spy report from an untested source, but it was interesting enough to toss out into the ether.

Here’s the press release:

S.H.I.E.L.D. invites you to join the AVENGERS initiative

Meet the cast of S.H.I.E.L.D. and join the Avengers initiative! Marvel Studios to announce an S.H.I.E.L.D. Assembly in New York City for spring 2011. During principal filming, S.H.I.E.L.D. will be out in full force in NYC to recruit and find new members. Cast members on hand include Samuel L. Jackson (Director Nick Fury), Clark Gregg (Agent Phil Coulson), Cobie Smulders (Agent Maria Hill) and Kevin Pennington (Agent Wendell Vaughn). Fans will get the chance to meet the stars and get their photograph taken with them at the event.

According to the spy there was no specific dates or times mentioned, but this was just a general heads up for these events in the Spring.

If you’re in New York or the industry and get more word to confirm or deny this, we’d love to hear from you. And if you’re a reader and this happens and you manage to get a chance to meet the cast during principal filming, we’d definitely love to hear from you.

UPDATE: Word from Jerk-bot is that he hasn’t heard anything to this effect, though he speculates that the Ms. Marvel rumours lend credence to the idea that this might be a Kree-Skrull war picture.

Other sources say this wasn’t supposed to hit the news until April.

What do you think?http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/21941

lol Kevin Pennington again

Majik1387

02-09-2011, 12:37 AM

Interesting

louiebling$

02-09-2011, 12:38 AM

Yea that made me LOOL too

Chewy

02-09-2011, 12:39 AM

Either that guy's genuinely involved or someone is absurdly desperate to get his name out there

BigThor

02-09-2011, 12:42 AM

Baccarin was a dead ringer for Hill and can pull off Bad***. She would have been great.

We haven't seen as much from Cobie but what i have seen looks good.

I would have been happy with either. Couldn't go wrong IMO.

Looks like we might have:

Fury
Coulson
Widow
Hawkeye
Hill
and MAYBE -Danvers-??

As the Shield 1st team.

Sounds good.

Sounds good to me, I would love for the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D to be seen as two seperate groups. Alot of people have been talking about Black Widow being part of the Avengers but I just don't want that to happen. She'll be much better served as bein one of S.H.E.I.L.D's top agents in my opinion.

Chewy

02-09-2011, 12:43 AM

Alot of people have been talking about Black Widow being part of the Avengers but I just don't want that to happen.
One of those people was Joss Whedon.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 12:49 AM

One of those people was Joss Whedon.

*sigh*...:doh:

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 01:02 AM

Sounds good to me, I would love for the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D to be seen as two seperate groups. Alot of people have been talking about Black Widow being part of the Avengers but I just don't want that to happen. She'll be much better served as bein one of S.H.E.I.L.D's top agents in my opinion.

It makes since if you think about it man. Fury is a manipulative SOB. He is running this Avengers initiative and it makes since he would put 2 of his top agents (Widow and Hawkeye) on the ground to train them in the many facets they will need, be Fury's "eyes on the ground" and to report back to him, etc. They won't just be the Avengers after the opening scene out of nowhere. Theres much work to do to get them on the same page as a unit and team.

There are MANY facets of the Avengers operations that will require a more "subtle" tactic and approach as well. While the Avengers are badass, only Cap has high level "operative" type training, and his is sorely out of date.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 01:29 AM

It makes since if you think about it man. Fury is a manipulative SOB. He is running this Avengers initiative and it makes since he would put 2 of his top agents (Widow and Hawkeye) on the ground to train them in the many facets they will need, be Fury's "eyes on the ground" and to report back to him, etc. They won't just be the Avengers after the opening scene out of nowhere. Theres much work to do to get them on the same page as a unit and team.

There are MANY facets of the Avengers operations that will require a more "subtle" tactic and approach as well. While the Avengers are badass, only Cap has high level "operative" type training, and his is sorely out of date.

True, but they could do all of that without actually being members of the Avengers though.

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 01:49 AM

True, but they could do all of that without actually being members of the Avengers though.

I'd actually rather them be on the team if they are going to eat up that much screen time. It would be an ongoing effort as well. Their skills and expertise would be invaluable.

I guess it just makes sense to me in an organic kind of way. Since were not getting Pym and Janet then they are good fill ins.

They also might NOT be a permanent part of the team. They may drop out after the first movie or when the SHIELD movie happens, their work having been done.

We may also see more Avenger members added by then as well. Maybe Black Panther, Vision, Namor, (Danvers/with powers), or someone else.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 01:52 AM

I'd actually rather them be on the team if they are going to eat up that much screen time. It would be an ongoing effort as well. Their skills and expertise would be invaluable.

I guess it just makes sense to me in an organic kind of way. Since were not getting Pym and Janet then they are good fill ins.

They also might NOT be a permanent part of the team. They may drop out after the first movie or when the SHIELD movie happens, their work having been done.

We may also see more Avenger members added by then as well. Maybe Black Panther, Vision, Namor, (Danvers/with powers), or someone else.

Good point, I guess I wouldn't mind as long as Hulk and the Big Three are the main focuses of the film. I've never had a problem with Hawkeye being a part of the team, it's just that it didn't seem like Black Widow to be apart of the Avengers.

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 02:08 AM

http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/21941

lol Kevin Pennington again

lol, it's obviously bogus...

Kevin Pennington is this marvel movies generation version of "Brooke Adams" (the chick who during all 3 spider-man movies (most notably spider-man 2) claimed she was playing felicia hardy/black cat.

i don't know if it's there low brow/budget agents pulling this crap or them themselves.

But Kevin has what.. now been tied to Rick Jones, Bucky Barnes, and now Quasar ?

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 02:15 AM

Good point, I guess I wouldn't mind as long as Hulk and the Big Three are the main focuses of the film. I've never had a problem with Hawkeye being a part of the team, it's just that it didn't seem like Black Widow to be apart of the Avengers.

well you know... she does have that long history with the avengers.... and being on the team in several occasions...

but i do know what you mean. She has every right to be on the team, but i'd prefer her to be one of the "revolving door" avengers. She's un-needed anyway if Janet, Wanda, Carol, or Tigra and one of the spider-women ever join.

id prefer her getting a solo (only one please, no sequels) where her villain is Yelena. But other then that... just have her appear in a cap, winter soldier, or shield and maybe ironman film.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 02:19 AM

well you know... she does have that long history with the avengers.... and being on the team in several occasions...

but i do know what you mean. She has every right to be on the team, but i'd prefer her to be one of the "revolving door" avengers. She's un-needed anyway if Janet, Wanda, Carol, or Tigra and one of the spider-women ever join.

id prefer her getting a solo (only one please, no sequels) where her villain is Yelena. But other then that... just have her appear in a cap, winter soldier, or shield and maybe ironman film.

Yeah I know she HAS been apart of the Avengers I was just saying that it's not what she's known for. She's more known for being a "revolving door" characters mostly affiliated with Shield.

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 02:21 AM

Yeah I know she HAS been apart of the Avengers I was just saying that it's not what she's known for. She's more known for being a "revolving door" characters mostly affiliated with Shield.

eh... i've been a marvel fan for a long time, and that's not how ive honestly ever viewed her. She's notable to me more for being an avenger, solo hero (which i don't count much since most characters get there own solo comics at some point), and being associated with captain america.

her shield history for me (as most notable) is simply some WW2 stuff, and the fact she took Fury's serum so she didnt age.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 02:42 AM

eh... i've been a marvel fan for a long time, and that's not how ive honestly ever viewed her. She's notable to me more for being an avenger, solo hero (which i don't count much since most characters get there own solo comics at some point), and being associated with captain america.

her shield history for me (as most notable) is simply some WW2 stuff, and the fact she took Fury's serum so she didnt age.

I don't get the same vibe from here, but oh well to each his own.

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 03:02 AM

I don't get the same vibe from here, but oh well to each his own.

Its subjective, she's been all over the place.

She's more of a rogue than anything really. You never really could peg her down or be truly sure where her loyalties are.

She is an Avengers regular though so its not really an out of the box thing.

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 03:09 AM

I don't get the same vibe from here, but oh well to each his own.

umm.. try not looking for a "vibe" on message boards... try i dunno... wiki? and the actual source material?

BigThor

02-09-2011, 03:12 AM

Its subjective, she's been all over the place.

She's more of a rogue than anything really. You never really could peg her down or be truly sure where her loyalties are.

She is an Avengers regular though so its not really an out of the box thing.

That's the word I was looking for "rogue", that's the vibe I get from here. Yeah, you guys have a point she is any Avengers regular I just couldn't see her as being an Avenger right off the bat.

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 03:32 AM

That's the word I was looking for "rogue", that's the vibe I get from here. Yeah, you guys have a point she is any Avengers regular I just couldn't see her as being an Avenger right off the bat.

Honestly I think it was a matter of them wanting some women on the team and Janet was tied up for the Ant-Man movie being looked at. Others rights may be owned by other companies atm.

She was probably a good choice considering the female options available, especially with the Shield tie ins.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 03:36 AM

Honestly I think it was a matter of them wanting some women on the team and Janet was tied up for the Ant-Man movie being looked at. Others rights may be owned by other companies atm.

She was probably a good choice considering the female options available, especially with the Shield tie ins.

True, I can see the logic behind including her as part of the team and she also brings the stealth factor to the team.

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 03:43 AM

BigThor

02-09-2011, 05:27 AM

RealIrOnMaN

02-09-2011, 05:34 AM

Meh, I call this bs! The only Avengers thing, that I believe in right now is the Smulders-Maria Hill thing, cause I trust Deadline/HR.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 05:46 AM

umm.. try not looking for a "vibe" on message boards... try i dunno... wiki? and the actual source material?

There's no need for "snarky" comments because all I was saying was that it doesn't seem right that she's already an Avenger in the first Avengers movie.

If YOU paid attention to the actual source material then you would know she didn't become an Avenger until quite a bit of time after they formed.

spideyboy_1111

02-09-2011, 06:46 AM

There's no need for "snarky" comments because all I was saying was that it doesn't seem right that she's already an Avenger in the first Avengers movie.

If YOU paid attention to the actual source material then you would know she didn't become an Avenger until quite a bit of time after they formed.

a snarky comment was very much needed... and if YOU payed attention, while characters are very much like source material in most ways, the current marvel film universe is just that... ITS OWN UNIVERSE. In the comics SHIELD had nothing to do with putting together the avengers.... in the films, they do. And since Widow is a SHIELD agent, and Fury is putting the team together, it makes perfect sense.

BigThor

02-09-2011, 06:49 AM

a snarky comment was very much needed... and if YOU payed attention, while characters are very much like source material in most ways, the current marvel film universe is just that... ITS OWN UNIVERSE. In the comics SHIELD had nothing to do with putting together the avengers.... in the films, they do. And since Widow is a SHIELD agent, and Fury is putting the team together, it makes perfect sense.

Sure whatever you say, just because the film is it's own universe doesn't mean the changes won't take some getting used to. I was only saying that Black Widow being an original Avengers member felt wierd to me, as it should.

Iron_Stark

02-09-2011, 07:03 AM

BigThor

02-09-2011, 07:17 AM

I don't see what's so weird about BW being a part of the team. She's been an Avenger in the comics for a long time, plus they're not going to have Hank and Jan in this, so BW and Hawkeye are good replacements.

Plus the team needs a woman, this movie isn't a guy driven, damsel in distress, testosterone filled, big guns, big muscles movie like the Expendables. (I love the Expendables btw, not knocking it)

Let me explain, I was only saying BW becoming an Avenger this EARLY is the only thing wierd about the situation to me. It's not that bad really, it's just gonna take some getting used to.

WildcatNC

02-09-2011, 12:33 PM

have we ever gotten a concrete answer on the Maximoff twins? I think it's an extremely good sign fox hasn't used them (in name) yet. I think the fact they're not in First Class is a really great sign.

Wanda and Janet imo are the 2 most famous avengers... followed shortly by SheHulk, Black Widow, and Ms. Marvel

I considered it but I am assuming that Wanda and Pietro are X-Men properties, whether they are being used or not. Even if they have been involved in the Avengers before, being Magneto's children probably puts them in the X-Men camp. They are also with the X-Men in all the new cartoons as well.

I don't think anyone knows, just my assumption.

Wanda would be natural high choice though.

RaZaTrOn

02-10-2011, 11:43 AM

I made this today guys (I was inspired by the other one) hope you like it. I'm pleased it's my first fan made trailer/music video.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MO358Rg1G5c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If that doesn't work the link is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOiaNpYnnCQ

Iceman

02-10-2011, 12:38 PM

Nice!!

More of that please!

Doctor Jones

02-10-2011, 03:38 PM

That was well done!

RaZaTrOn

02-10-2011, 03:49 PM

Cheers, I've got to do a little bit more it, but i couldn't wait. So I'll post another more refined version up, probably tomorrow :)

Spider-Vader

02-10-2011, 06:31 PM

Marvel should cast Pennington as MODOK.

spideyboy_1111

02-10-2011, 06:40 PM

Sure whatever you say, just because the film is it's own universe doesn't mean the changes won't take some getting used to. I was only saying that Black Widow being an original Avengers member felt wierd to me, as it should.

why though? you didn't even know her character history.. and don't really seem to know that much avenger history at all.. lol so it's kinda odd you find anything "odd"

spideyboy_1111

02-10-2011, 06:42 PM

I considered it but I am assuming that Wanda and Pietro are X-Men properties, whether they are being used or not. Even if they have been involved in the Avengers before, being Magneto's children probably puts them in the X-Men camp. They are also with the X-Men in all the new cartoons as well.

I don't think anyone knows, just my assumption.

Wanda would be natural high choice though.

being magneto's children and "mutants" are really the only thing to go on with an Xproperty. Most there history and longest time spent was with the avengers.

Aztec

02-10-2011, 07:07 PM

Marvel should cast Pennington as MODOK.

I actually had an extra wacky, yet somewhat cool, idea involving MODOK being in this movie. Now here me out...(This typing lag is awful btw!!)

In the first act Loki uses Hulk to distract the Avengers and SHIELD from noticing that he and HYDRA are secretly amassing a massive invasion force through the use of the Cosmic Cube. Once Hulk finally realizes that SHIELD and the Avengers are not his enemies he joins...but by then Loki and HYDRA are at full strength because they have broken into a SHIELD super-prison (Project Pegasus) and broken out two potential powerful allies: a sedated and human (for now) Blonsky and Justin Hammer.

HYDRA manages to convince Blonsky to join because they will allow him to become enraged, become the Abomination, go on a rampage, and have Round 2 with Hulk. They convince Hammer to join because they will allow him to tinker with HYDRA tech to make an army of drones, and to take revenge on Iron Man and SHIELD.

Here's where my idea comes in...Justin Hammer would be far too annoying for HYDRA to deal with, and they certainly wouldn't want to give him a leadership position, so I see them building a special drone that would require a human operator to "connect to". HYDRA doesn't tell Hammer that the person to be "connected" is HIM! Thus they force Hammer into his new superdrone body and force him to become the mindless killing machine known as MODOK!

What do you think?

WildcatNC

02-10-2011, 11:26 PM

being magneto's children and "mutants" are really the only thing to go on with an Xproperty. Most there history and longest time spent was with the avengers.

I'm aware of that, but my assumption is still that they are Fox properties. Could be wrong though. We are just guessing since no one knows.

spideyboy_1111

02-10-2011, 11:36 PM

I'm aware of that, but my assumption is still that they are Fox properties. Could be wrong though. We are just guessing since no one knows.

see i figure if fox does own them... they'd certainly show up in First Class... especially over those like darwin and angel

WildcatNC

02-11-2011, 12:11 AM

see i figure if fox does own them... they'd certainly show up in First Class... especially over those like darwin and angel

Maybe. Fox is unknowable. Sometimes they respect the comic sometimes they don't.

They might not have the rights or they might have said, "they are Magnetos children so they shouldn't be in this one." No way to tell with those people.

You may be right though. Its hard to tell how they divvy up the characters. Somehow the FF guys have the rights to Super Skrull but not the actual Skrull themselves. Not sure how that was supposed to work.

BigThor

02-11-2011, 01:17 AM

why though? you didn't even know her character history.. and don't really seem to know that much avenger history at all.. lol so it's kinda odd you find anything "odd"

Oh really :cwink:?

1) The Avengers formed because of Loki's scheme to have Hulk destroy Thor, the original team consisting of Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Wasp, and Ant Man.

2) Hulk left after the first or second issue because he didn't feel accepted.

3) Captain America joined in issue 3 or 4 (I think) after they thawed him out of the ice.

4) They battled enemies including Masters of Evil and Kang the Conqueror.

5) Hawkeye, Quick Silver, and Scarlett Witch joins the team later on.

6) Hercules, Black Widow, and Black Knight joined after nearly all the original members left.

7) Vision and Black Panther joined

8) They became involved in the Kree/ Skrull war and were manipulated into disbanding and later reformed.

9) The Vision and Scarlett Witch became interested in each other.

10) Ant Man eventually became abusive and later took a break from being a superhero.

Edit: Used wiki for sequencial purposes, so what (shoulder shrugs).

WildcatNC

02-11-2011, 01:27 AM

Oh really :cwink:?

1) The Avengers formed because of Loki's scheme to have Hulk destroy Thor, the original team consisting of Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Wasp, and Ant Man.

2) Hulk left after the first or second issue because he didn't feel accepted.

3) Captain America joined in issue 3 or 4 (I think) after they thawed him out of the ice.

4) They battled enemies including Masters of Evil and Kang the Conqueror.

5) Hawkeye, Quick Silver, and Scarlett Witch joins the team later on.

6) Hercules, Black Widow, and Black Knight joined after nearly all the original members left.

7) Vision and Black Panther joined

8) They became involved in the Kree/ Skrull war and were manipulated into disbanding and later reformed.

9) The Vision and Scarlett Witch became interested in each other.

10) Ant Man eventually became abusive and later took a break from being a superhero.

You Wiki'd that didn't you?

Chewy

02-11-2011, 01:35 AM

Heh.

BigThor

02-11-2011, 01:43 AM

You Wiki'd that didn't you?

Nah all those were off the top of my head, but I did use wiki to place them in the correct order :).

WildcatNC

02-11-2011, 01:48 AM

Nah all those were off the top of my head, but I did use wiki to place them in the correct order :).

Didn't you???

BigThor

02-11-2011, 01:57 AM

Didn't you???

Yeah I had to edit it and put the list in the right sequence :cwink:

WildcatNC

02-11-2011, 02:03 AM

Yeah I had to edit it and put the list in the right sequence :cwink:

Didn't you??? :woot:

http://musketfire.com/files/2010/11/Troy-Polamalu-Hair-Commercial.jpg

BigThor

02-11-2011, 02:31 AM

Of course, who wouldn't have to do that?

marcvader

02-11-2011, 06:30 AM

With that character in Xmen FC that has the wings do you think that screws things up for us seeing Wasp any time soon?

spideyboy_1111

02-11-2011, 06:48 AM

No... wasps wings arnt real... and its not like we haven't had supers with similar powersets in different franchises so far.

marcvader

02-11-2011, 07:07 AM

I know they're not real but that's not the point. What other heroes have the same visual cues but are from different franchises?

spideyboy_1111

02-11-2011, 07:25 AM

Invisible man (league of extraordinary gentlemen)/inviso girl (incredibles)/invisible woman (f4), and I think there was someone with force fields in sky high.

telekenisis is in too many films to count. As is super strength, speed, and durability.

Elastiwoman and mr fantastic

Jack jack and rogue and human torch

Hulk and mr hyde are similar

Rocketeer and iron man, robo cop and steal

Nick fury and james bond... well in our case shaft...

Night owl and batman

Punisher and just about any action hero

Etc.... etc...

I don't think bug wings are going to cause any problem

RaZaTrOn

02-11-2011, 07:45 AM

The newest version is up of my teaser/music video if you guys want to see it. :yay:

Hope you enjoy it now it's finished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHQ_xd824s

kaijunexus

02-11-2011, 08:31 AM

The newest version is up of my teaser/music video if you guys want to see it. :yay:

Hope you enjoy it now it's finished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHQ_xd824s

This thing gets me super-pumped for Avengers every time I watch it. Love the avengers cartoon theme with it! Sounds much more powerful when put over live action rather than the toon.

RaZaTrOn

02-11-2011, 12:00 PM

Nice one dude!

That's exactly what I want it to do because it does it for me lol!

I might try another with the Fury V/O after I finish editing this one, every time I think i've done it something else rears it's head!

WildcatNC

02-11-2011, 03:43 PM

Of course, who wouldn't have to do that?

I was just setting you up for the joke man, figured you would catch on. Had to ask for the third time to deliver the punchline (from the shampoo commercial)

Wasn't being an ***, just messing with you. :woot:

BigThor

02-11-2011, 04:24 PM

I was just setting you up for the joke man, figured you would catch on. Had to ask for the third time to deliver the punchline (from the shampoo commercial)

Wasn't being an ***, just messing with you. :woot:

Oh nah it's cool, I was just trying to figure out what you were doing (lol).

Aztec

02-11-2011, 05:09 PM

The newest version is up of my teaser/music video if you guys want to see it. :yay:

Hope you enjoy it now it's finished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHQ_xd824s

Very cool except the film will not be distributed by Paramount but rather Disney. It will be the first TRULY in-house Marvel film.

Iron_Stark

02-11-2011, 05:20 PM

The newest version is up of my teaser/music video if you guys want to see it. :yay:

Hope you enjoy it now it's finished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHQ_xd824s

Holy crap that's awesome!!

Great job!

RaZaTrOn

02-12-2011, 06:48 AM

Very cool except the film will not be distributed by Paramount but rather Disney. It will be the first TRULY in-house Marvel film.

Yeah, i'm fully aware it's just that from the 5 trailers/teaser i used obviously none have the Disney logo.
On the final version (which should have been this one!) I will add in the Disney logo just for you! Do you have a specific one you'd like to see mate?

Thanks for the comments, I appreciate them. Also SpiderByte says hi (via youtube comments!)