The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament - Part 1

[Mazrim Taim]

Sinister 6 because of Electro, Hydro Man, Hobgoblin, and the Symbiote.

[Docker2.0]

Sinister 6, I almost voted for Injustice but then I thought about it..........Hydro Man and Electro could take out most of the guys alone..................f it. Injustice Society gets my vote. :csad:

[Anubis]

Not the ghost.

WHo could probably make short work of everybody with the exception of Hydroman.

[PaleRider]

Yeah I'm sorry but everyone on the S6 is a moron besides Ock. and wouldn't the icicle vs. hydroman fight be pretty quick?

[Lobo]

Why are there only 5 people in that sinister6 pic? It would be an awesome fight, but I;m going with the Injustice Gang on account of the Gentleman Ghost

[Silicon Surfer]

Sinister Six are lethal enough it's true but Grundy isn't alive in the usual sense and trying to kill a ghost is the definition of a lost cause.

[Genesis 1.0]

Mysterio is missing from the file photo, but he's in the match.


The Sinister 6 can take down everyone in the Injustice Gang aside from Gentleman Ghost, Grundy can and has been beaten by less powerful than Hydro Man or Electro. They can bind and restrict him to the point it's a W.

Electro is the key to beating Ghost though, GG has been hurt by energy attacks if he ain't ready and with Electro's wild tendencies to attack at large when backed into a corner, he'll get nailed by that sooner or later.

Sinister Six

[Hound55]

I'm still going for the Injustice Gang.

Too many "ifs, buts and maybes" have to come off in a team laden with imbeciles for the Sinister Six to get a win. Gentleman Ghost will be there at the end.

[SuperFerret]

I'm voting Injustice Gang.

[Genesis 1.0]

lulz, just Awesome. :o

12 / 2 Injustice Gang

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Sinister Six!

[PemLam]

Injustice Gang

[The_Mighty_Thor]

A lot depends on which version of Grundy we get. The one that gives Superman trouble isn't going down to any or all of the 6. On the other hand the one that had a hole punched in his chest by Batman could lose to any of them. Since it wasn't stipulated I'll figure on a middle tier Grundy which I think makes him an interesting fight For the Symbiote or even Doc Ock and since Electro IS capable of hurting the Ghost I'll vote for the Sinister 6.

[Docker2.0]

Mysterio is missing from the file photo, but he's in the match.


The Sinister 6 can take down everyone in the Injustice Gang aside from Gentleman Ghost, Grundy can and has been beaten by less powerful than Hydro Man or Electro. They can bind and restrict him to the point it's a W.

Electro is the key to beating Ghost though, GG has been hurt by energy attacks if he ain't ready and with Electro's wild tendencies to attack at large when backed into a corner, he'll get nailed by that sooner or later.

Sinister Six

Yeah that was my argument until I realized Spiderman beat them all by his lonesome and he's done it on a couple of occassions so it's not a fluke. S6 as a team is not that bright, even though it could be accounted as bad writing because Electro and Sandman should be able to destroy Spidey alone but whatever. I just see Injustice as being a little smarter and with a little bit more variables in it.

[Anubis]

Also, a lot of people are sleepin' on the Wizard. He's a pretty damn skilled mage.

[Genesis 1.0]

A lot depends on which version of Grundy we get. The one that gives Superman trouble isn't going down to any or all of the 6. On the other hand the one that had a hole punched in his chest by Batman could lose to any of them. Since it wasn't stipulated I'll figure on a middle tier Grundy which I think makes him an interesting fight For the Symbiote or even Doc Ock and since Electro IS capable of hurting the Ghost I'll vote for the Sinister 6.

Yup, like I said, he can and it's quite likely, and it's overlooked in this bout. Without him you have to rely on a Grundy that makes the word inconsistent seem like a nicety. Averaging his writing out, at best he's his at his mid tier strength. Sandman could go Gaara and Sand Prison 'em.

Yeah that was my argument until I realized Spiderman beat them all by his lonesome and he's done it on a couple of occassions so it's not a fluke. S6 as a team is not that bright, even though it could be accounted as bad writing because Electro and Sandman should be able to destroy Spidey alone but whatever. I just see Injustice as being a little smarter and with a little bit more variables in it.

Not the smartest guys in the world but in most of those battles with Spidey, he trips them up by making them attack one another or they get in each others way as 6 guys attempt to nail one enemy.

It's 6 on 6, so it's not even a factor here. They'll be able to really let loose as they take on another team. Especially Electro & Sandman and that's terrible for the Injustice Gang.

[PaleRider]

yeah but I stand by the people that said how no one on the S6 could even tough GG. He and Grundy will be standing at the end

[greenrage36]

Ok..with Mysterio added, if the six can work well as a team they might have a chance - him and Doc Ock definitely would have to rally the troops and get them to fight as most effective...but I still think the Injustice Society would come out standing..of course, that meaning only one or two people...

[Silicon Surfer]

Who's going to deal with the Shade? The current version has been upgraded to a point where he is capable ( according to Dr. Fate) of giving the Spectre a tough fight.

[Anubis]

That's not the Shade, that's the Wizard.


Shade's a good guy......kinda.

I think Ragdoll could take out Doc Ock. As limber as Spidey, he can get past those tentacles and unlike Spidey, he wont hold back. He'd stab him in the face at least 30 to 40 times. Maybe make a hat out of his testicles. The man's a f**king nutjob. :o

[Chunin]

Electro can fry Ghost and half the Injustice Gang, especially if Hydro Man soaks all of them first, which is inevitable. That's a killer strategy. Sinister six

[Genesis 1.0]

yeah but I stand by the people that said how no one on the S6 could even tough GG. He and Grundy will be standing at the end

PR, there's a guy that CAN touch GG, he happens to be the heaviest hitter in the Six: Electro.

[Hound55]

Who also happens to be one of the three biggest idiots there...

He's the ONLY one there who can hurt him, fighting in a style that's very clear and immediately obvious.

I think it's doubtful at best that GG let's Electro take him out.

As for Ragdoll being able to take out Doc Ock, while he'll be better at rolling with the punches and taking shots than Spidey is, let's not forget Spidey has a sense that is pretty much precognitive...

That said, I think he could keep Ock busy for a while at least and if he couldn't take him out himself he should be able to hold him up til help arrives.

[Genesis 1.0]

I really don't give a damn about him being an idiot to be honest, idiots with that level of power are even more dangerous. How to predict the random and sporadic nature of an enraged idiot that can fry damn near anyone, anywhere, at any time.

So idiot? Don't really give a f////.

[Hound55]

You know the old saying; an idiot and his power is soon webbed to the floor...

[Genesis 1.0]

Fortunately there's no web involved. Even if there were, he's fried it before & escaped by transforming, until inexplicably due to writer fatigue, he doesn't.

Like that other guy said, with Electro flooding the field, this makes Electro's attacks twice as lethal.

[Hound55]

Assuming Hydro-Man can last long enough against Icicle for that to be an issue... And that's a big assumption.

[SuperFerret]

He's also awfully flashy and that's the best way to grab the attention of a group of ruthless super villains.

[Hound55]

In fact, I could see a likelier scenario being Hydro-man tries that, Icicle stops him in his tracks to the point that all he succeeds in doing is freezing Sandman (standing nearer than any opponent) to the floor with him.

[Genesis 1.0]

That's what Doc Ock & Mysterio especially are there for, to shepherd and direct the ire & power of this Merry Band of Idiots.

Mysterio's Illusions have fooled Spiderman's Spidey Sense, he's going to wreak bloody havoc on the Injustice Gang. Mysterio's the lynch pin here, he can cause the downfall of about half of the IG before they can pinpoint and take him out, if they even have the ability.

[Genesis 1.0]

In fact, I could see a likelier scenario being Hydro-man tries that, Icicle stops him in his tracks to the point that all he succeeds in doing is freezing Sandman (standing nearer than any opponent) to the floor with him.

That scenario is just as iffy and whimsical as my own, simply slanted to your own view of how it'd all go down.:o

[Hound55]

I can admit that that was just me being a cock...

But as I said, I think it's likelier... albeit not particularly likely.

[Genesis 1.0]

lol, we're asses, but we're honest asses. :o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hydro man could drowned icicle before he ever got the chance to try and freeze him.

Here's how it would go. Mysterio makes Grundy think he's fighting the 6 when really he wipes out his whole team minus Ghost. Then Hydro man soakes Grundy and Electro takes him out. Then Electro can really cut loose against Ghost while Mysterio is messing with what he sees.

[Anubis]

By "drowning" him he would have to touch him, he'd freeze his ass from the inside. Are you reading what you're typing?

And the Wizard makes Electro think Sandman is Grundy, and Electro blasts him to glass. While the Ghost stabs Mysterio in the back.

[Genesis 1.0]

See Anubis, you really should be as honest as Hound & I about your bias instead of presenting it as unassailable fact. :o

Fact of the matter is Mysterio's 1st item of business will be to conceal himself, he's never going to leave himself visible or vulnerable because he's not even gonna fight. Mysterio is going to wreak havoc for the Injustice Gang & the quality of those illusions are beyond nearly anyone to penetrate.

[Anubis]

How are you gonna hide from a ghost and a mage?

Doesn't matter, unless you leave this up for 2 months, and go find people that don't frequent these parts to come and vote, the Society already won anyway. NEXT!

[Silicon Surfer]

Hydroman and Electro are as likely to fry their own team as the opposition. And Grundy isn't affected much by electricity. In fact he was created when a lightning bolt hit the swamp. He might very well be amped by it. Throughout his existence he has had a tendency to soak up energy and grow stronger. GG can turn invisible and teleport so hitting with something if he doesn't want to be hit would be nearly impossible. GG is also hurt by energy only when surprised. It's not likely that he will be surprised if a guy with stylized lightning bolts all over his costume starts throwing electricity around.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

By "drowning" him he would have to touch him, he'd freeze his ass from the inside. Are you reading what you're typing?

And the Wizard makes Electro think Sandman is Grundy, and Electro blasts him to glass. While the Ghost stabs Mysterio in the back.


And Icicles lungs are filled with solid ice when that happens. Icicle dies and Hydro thaws. Guess who wins?

Mysterio made Wizard think Grundy was Sandman first and thus Wizard actualy makes Electro think Grundy is Grundy!

[greenrage36]

Interesting scenarios..I'm still going to stick with the Injustice Gang..they aren't going to have any problems working together as a team. The six will only be effective if Doc & Mysterio can coordinate the other bone-heads so if either of them get compromised the whole team-plan starts to sink...

..besides, like Surfer stated - there is always the possible likelihood of Electro amping out and frying his own teammates, accidentally of course, before he even gets to any of the Gang. I could see him doing something impulsive like that....

[CanaryFan]

Not sure but it would be a tuff fight for both. I'll vote S6.

[Chunin]

Not sure but it would be a tuff fight for both. I'll vote S6.

This. S6

[Genesis 1.0]

How are you gonna hide from a ghost and a mage?

Doesn't matter, unless you leave this up for 2 months, and go find people that don't frequent these parts to come and vote, the Society already won anyway. NEXT!

lulz, since when do we end debates on a fight based on the count? Surfer, Rider, SF, myself, and yes, You have gone rounds arguing over matches regardless of the tally, but you're fed up now?

Interesting.:o

[PaleRider]

I love the debates in here. I just don't get this one.

[Genesis 1.0]

What do ya get when you mix 2 of the most infamously unsuccessful groups of villains from 2 Universes? A gumbo fit only for a madman. The Injustice Gang defeats the Sinister 6 12 / 4.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Dr. Doom

VS

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The Justice Society


Stipulation: Dr. Doom gets 1 Week of Prep Time & Doombots

{{{REQUESTED MATCH}}}

[Genesis 1.0]

Thanks for the match, Taim, pretty awesome.

[Anubis]

Justice Society

I mean when you get down to it, Doom always loses. One way or another. :o

[SuperFerret]

Pretty much. It's funny how some of the match ups that would be great reads wind up being the boring ones to vote for.

JSA

[louiebling$]

Doom.....With a Week Prep Time and His bots...I'm sure he would have a Spell for each of them and outwit all of them....sure this won't be easy especially to take out Alan Scott...but in the End Doom will be Limping out and probably in need of new armor

[3dman27]

the jsa

[PemLam]

Jsa

[Anubis]

Doom.....With a Week Prep Time and His bots...I'm sure he would have a Spell for each of them and outwit all of them....sure this won't be easy especially to take out Alan Scott...but in the End Doom will be Limping out and probably in need of new armor

He's had years of prep to take down the FF. Hasn't worked thus far now has it?

[louiebling$]

He's had years of prep to take down the FF. Hasn't worked thus far now has it?

Hey I'm Ignoring all Logic for Bias to Doom :o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

He's had years of prep to take down the FF. Hasn't worked thus far now has it?


Well it's always going to work out that way in comics otherwise all the popular heroes would be dead! At the same time Doom actually has won as many battles as he has lost with his various adversaries. It's just that when he wins instead of killing them outright he captures them to gloat or puts them in some stupid comic book death trap giving the hero the chance to use his brains to escape and then have the advantage in the second bout.

This match really does come down to scenario. On Doom's terms he would take out GL first then wipe the floor with the rest of them. On the JSA's terms the rest would keep him distracted and GL would take him out. Since this is on Doom's terms Doom wins. Of course the JSA are going to escape and kick his ass later but for now Doom wins!

[Anubis]

I wouldn't count out Sandy either. That guys packing some serious power, and if Doom's not paying attention, he'll get dragged under the Earth.

[Genesis 1.0]

Well it's always going to work out that way in comics otherwise all the popular heroes would be dead!

This match really does come down to scenario. On Doom's terms he would take out GL first then wipe the floor with the rest of them. On the JSA's terms the rest would keep him distracted and GL would take him out. Since this is on Doom's terms Doom wins. Of course the JSA are going to escape and kick his ass later but for now Doom wins!

Precisely. Heroes win and villains lose, that's the way it works in the source material but not in the Fight Scenarios. Otherwise you'd never have a bad guy win unless it was against another of his ilk.

For me, the WEEK of Prep for Doom allows him to take down Scott, and the Doombots modified in such a span of time to combat them, will keep the JSA busy long enough for him to do it.

Beating Alan Scott is nearly impossible for most guys but it helps when you have a monstrous Reed Richards class IQ & a week to let it run free. They're walking into this blind & he's had a week to dissect their abilities and more importantly, their weaknesses. Doom struggles but he wins this & immediately collapses into a coma.

Dr. Doom

4 / 3 JSA

[Anubis]

That's usually how I call it. Unless the power difference is huge. Like Batman versus Thanos, the Bad guy always loses. That inability to get his/her/it's s**t together counts.

[Genesis 1.0]

Guys like Magneto always suffer from that same problem, being a villain, even a credible one, and yet I never hear this shiz when he's up for a fight.

[Anubis]

That depends on whether he's fighting somebody of comparable power. Mags versus Cosmic Boy? I'm going Cos.

Mags versus, I don't know, Animal Man, I'm going Mags. (Unless a Sun Eater happens to be passing by. :( )

[Hound55]

I cold see the JSA cutting through Doom's crib just to find one more Doombot at the end with Doom having seeng the tide turning and fled.

I'm guessing that'd count as a win for the JSA, so I'll go with them.

[Docker2.0]

Dr. Doom. As a bad guy, he actually does win.

[PaleRider]

Man this is an amazing fight, just a fanboy dream for me! been thinking about for awhile and I have to go JSA as much as I hate voting against Doom.

[Silicon Surfer]

JSA, everybody beats Doom. That's the requirement for getting your Junior Superhero License.

[Genesis 1.0]

Man this is an amazing fight, just a fanboy dream for me! been thinking about for awhile and I have to go JSA as much as I hate voting against Doom.

Yeah, it is a pretty epic match.

7 / 4 JSA

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Dr. Doom!

[CanaryFan]

A weeks prep time and an army of Doom bots! How is he losing??????:huh:

Dr. Doom!

[greenrage36]

I could see Doom getting the better of the JSA here..I could also see them holding out and surviving long enough for Doom to roll out a robot-replacement and make a get-away if things don't go in his favor..

For this first meeting - with the prep time I'll side with Victor...

[Mary Jane Watson]

Dr.Doom

[Chunin]

Victor Von Doom

[Hound55]

I could see Doom getting the better of the JSA here..I could also see them holding out and surviving long enough for Doom to roll out a robot-replacement and make a get-away if things don't go in his favor..

For this first meeting - with the prep time I'll side with Victor...
I'm calling a Doom-Bot and switch escape a JSA win...

If you consider that (which I think is the most likely result) to be a draw or a no-contest. Then I suppose a Doom Victory is the next most likely outcome.

But personally, I view Doom fleeing as a loss.

[greenrage36]

I'm calling a Doom-Bot and switch escape a JSA win...

If you consider that (which I think is the most likely result) to be a draw or a no-contest. Then I suppose a Doom Victory is the next most likely outcome.

But personally, I view Doom fleeing as a loss.

Yeah.that's what I meant - if Doom didn't out and out sense a win and choose to flee to fight another day then I would count that as a win to the JSA as well.

The JSA may wind up annoyed that they couldn't clearly defeat/capture him, but Doom's pride would be hurt worse so therefore a win to the JSA in that possibility...

Hope that cleared up things..

[Hound55]

Doom's pride could never be so hurt that his ego couldn't justify his situation as a win... It's just a small speed-bump in the way of getting back at the accursed Richards!!!

:doom:

[Mazrim Taim]

Dr Doom's stronger than Batman when it's prep time so Doom.

[Lobo]

The JSA, and somehow I thin Hourman is why they win :huh: Epic fight, though :up:

Note:

Had Dr fate been in that pic, I'd have gone with JSA and rather handily :o

[greenrage36]

Note:
Had Dr fate been in that pic, I'd have gone with JSA and rather handily :o

Good point..that's what I probably would have gone with as well if Fate had been included...

..no Fate..greater the likelihood of it being Doom's Day!!!

[Genesis 1.0]

With a week's prep to handle and analyze Scott specifically and Doombots to deter the rest while he takes care of business, Doom wins this one. Extremely close? Yeah. Doom pulls out all the stops & utilizes his newly founded Magic as well to get this done.




One of the most prestigious teams in the DC Universe, a cornerstone of Superhero Lore, the Justice Society of America takes on the infamously villainous bane of the Marvel Universe, Dr. Doom in an epic clash. Specially modified Doombots flood the scene and slowly pick apart the members of the JSA as Doom siphons away Alan Scott's energy and proceeds to destroy the remainder of the team with it for the 10 / 8 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Kilowog: War of the Green Lanterns

VS

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King Hyperion

[Genesis 1.0]

For those unaware, with Krona focusing Kilowog, he basically raped Superman and it wasn't even like it was hard work.

[greenrage36]

Hmmm...interesting bout here..I'm tempted to lean a bit more towards Kilowag, but I'm gonna think about this for a bit more...

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

What's Hyperion's strength level around anyhow? Can't be higher than Supes right?

[Hound55]

King Hype? Yeah it would be higher than regular Supes.

[PaleRider]

Kilowag

[Anubis]

Kilowog

[PemLam]

Kilowog

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Hmm..Kilowog anyways =D

[Docker2.0]

I'm going King Hyperion. I know Kilowag is the sexy pick here but Hyperion has a no killing restriction so I'm picking him.

[Genesis 1.0]

Kilowog is pretty damn ruthless under Krona's control, so it's not as if he has kid gloves either, however, King Hyperion has a longer history of dropping Marvel's Superman Class characters on MANY worlds. Kilowog has just shown himself capable of taking Kal & that ONE victory simply doesn't measure up for me.

King Hyperion

4 / 2 Kilowog

[Anubis]

That's only if you believe that King Hype can take regular old Supes. And I don't.

[Genesis 1.0]

lulz, then I guess it's fortunate I don't give a f/// what you think. :o

[Anubis]

Don't be silly, of course you do. :o

[3dman27]

Kilowog

agreed

[SuperFerret]

I'll give this to Kilowog.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The King

[greenrage36]

I think King H could probably take Supes more often then not, but Kilowag did too..so while its not the best stat - I'll bounce off of that and go with 'Wag for this one...

Should be a pretty good scrap though...

[Silicon Surfer]

Kilowog

[Genesis 1.0]

8 / 3 Kilowog

[CanaryFan]

Kilowog

[Genesis 1.0]

After the Doom victory, I'm not expecting a comeback for King Hype. :o


9 / 3 Kilowog

[Mazrim Taim]

Ill throw Hyperion a bone, he's a murderous bastard with the powers of a superman.

[Chunin]

King Hyperion

[Genesis 1.0]

Kilowog, the Universe's Baddest Green Lantern takes on the Most Sadisitc Guy in Several, King Hyperion in a real knuckle buster but Kilowog walks away with Hype's Head with a 9 / 5 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Starfire

VS

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Ms. Marvel

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Ms Marvel

[3dman27]

starfire

[Docker2.0]

Ms. Marvel

[greenrage36]

Ms. Marvel

[Anubis]

Ms. Marvel


She'd just absorb whatever Starfire threw at her, which would make her even more powerful.

[PemLam]

Ms. Marvel

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Ms. Marvel

[X-Woman]

Ms. Marvel

[Silicon Surfer]

Starfire

[MrMen]

Ms. Marvel

[Genesis 1.0]

Ms. Marvel trounces Alien Royalty in a very American fashion, 8 / 2.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Quasar

VS

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Deathstorm

[Mary Jane Watson]

Ms Marvel!

[Mary Jane Watson]

^ Oh never mind..

Deathstorm.

[Docker2.0]

Deathstorm.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll go Wendell.

They have similar powersets with a few tweaks here and there but Quasar has that veteran edge & I expect him to bring those wily instincts to bear on the teenage duo.

Quasar

2 / 1 Deathstorm

[3dman27]

quasar

[greenrage36]

I'll go with Quasar as well..mostly because my brain ain't working this morning and I'm remembering more about him then D-Storm....whateva!

[Genesis 1.0]

Deathstorm was definitely a badass, sadistic bastard.

3 / 2 Quasar

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Quasar

[Silicon Surfer]

I have not seen Deathstorm but by what I read about him I have to choose him over Wendall. Energy powers +matter manip + super strength + enhanced durability.

[CanaryFan]

Deathstorm

[Chunin]

Wendell

[Genesis 1.0]

5 / 4 Quasar

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Quasar

[PemLam]

Deathstorm

[Genesis 1.0]

I have not seen Deathstorm but by what I read about him I have to choose him over Wendall. Energy powers +matter manip + super strength + enhanced durability.


Quasar: Limitless Energy Powers + Energy Siphon of Any Form of Energy + Solid Light Constructs + Manipulation of Most Energy in the Universe

Come now Surfer, you of all people know he's tanked energy attacks from Phoenix & even the Watcher once. This is hardly as tilted to the new guy as you present.

It's damn close.

6 / 5 Quasar

[Anubis]

Don't know enough about the new guy to vote. (Unlike some people, I gots principles. :o)

That is just dead Ronnie Raymond right?

[Genesis 1.0]

Merged with a guy whose girlfriend he murdered in order to get the Firestorm Matrix back.

And yeah, it was Jason & his girlfriend as Firestorm till Ronnie whacked the chick in order to take her place in the Matrix.

[Anubis]

Hmm, not as interesting as it sounds.

[Genesis 1.0]

lulz, it's precisely as interesting as it sounds.

Trapped in an evil superbeing with the guy that murdered your girlfriend to get her powers is about as 'interesting' as it gets. :o

[Anubis]

And come September, she will have never existed, and it will have always been Ronnie and Jason.

[SuperFerret]

Deathstorm. Firestorm's abilities, no inability to affect living matter, no qualms about turning Wendell's blood to HCl or the O2 in his lungs to granite.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, as many matter manipulators as Wendell's faced over the long years, it's never happened. I have a hard time believing it's that simple or that the Quantum Bands, which seem to act as sentient supercomputers from time to time, are that ineffective.

[Mazrim Taim]

Quasar

[Lobo]

Quasar. Also i'd like to request a match that involves Colossus. For as long as I've been involved in these threads, i dot ever remembe rhim being used for a fight

[Anubis]

He's been used a few times. He just usually gets his ass kicked. :o

[Lobo]

Interesting. Do you recall who kicked his ass?

[Anubis]

Sasquatch.

[Lobo]

Interesting. Do you recall who kicked his ass?

[Anubis]

Oddly enough, nobody really.

I don't recall Sassafras losing a fight.....

[Silicon Surfer]

Actually the new Deathstorm is a unique being spawned from Ronnie and Jason and apparently a Black Lantern.

[Docker2.0]

Genesis takes off more time from this thread than NBA players in contract years. :o

[The_Mighty_Thor]

OH SNAP, now we're not gonna get a new match till the NBA lockout is over!

[Genesis 1.0]

Just for the record, I f'n hate your whining ass, Docker. :o

Quasar beats the brakes off Deathstorm to showcase that Experience trumps Raw Power any day of the cosmic week.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Colossus

VS

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Cyborg

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Cyborg. Colossus could break his arm and it'd still heal. If Cyborg broke Colossus's arm then he's screwed.

[PemLam]

Colossus

[louiebling$]

colossus

[Genesis 1.0]

Pitor has the deuce in Strength & Durability, but he gives up everything else to Cyborg, especially versatility & intelligence. Cyborg can hit Colossus with so many different attacks & has a greater mind for strategy.

He can take a few shots from Colossus but not many, so it comes down to whether or not he can keep his distance long enough to hammer him into an Eco Friendly garbage pail.

2 / 1 Colossus

[Silicon Surfer]

Colossus. He's stronger, more durable, better trained, and fairly intelligent. He has gone up against Sentinels many times and they have better tech than Cyborg. Cyborg would be a considerable step down from what Colossus is used to.

[Lobo]

Thanks, Gen. Vic has the edge in versatility and intelligence, Piotr is stronger, and more durable. I see Vic fighting toe to toe for a few blows before realizing he's out classed in the strength department, and then coming up with a new strategy. It'll take awhile but I can see Colossus landing the ko blow before Vic can put him down for an extended period of time. So Colossus.

[Genesis 1.0]

Thanks, Gen. Vic has the edge in versatility and intelligence, Piotr is stronger, and more durable. I see Vic fighting toe to toe for a few blows before realizing he's out classed in the strength department, and then coming up with a new strategy. It'll take awhile but I can see Colossus landing the ko blow before Vic can put him down for an extended period of time. So Colossus.

A damn accurate assesment of the match, we agree on several points.

Cyborg's fought far more dangerous opponents than Colossus, so that argument fails Surfer.

[Hound55]

Cyborg IS far more versatile, I just don't know if he can hurt him...

I'll say Colossus because of that, while Cyborg can hit him with more attacks a lot of them Piotr could just walk through.

[Docker2.0]

Just for the record, I f'n hate your whining ass, Docker. :o
Quasar beats the brakes off Deathstorm to showcase that Experience trumps Raw Power any day of the cosmic week.

:csad:

OH and Colossus. Can't stand the fact that they had Cyborg in the JLA. He doesn't belong there! :argh: Plus I can see he's really outclassed here.

[Anubis]

You know what's worse? In the new continuity, Cyborg replaces Martian Manhunter as a founding Leaguer.

Oh and Colossus for the same reasons Hound stated.

[Lobo]

You know what's worse? In the new continuity, Cyborg replaces Martian Manhunter as a founding Leaguer.

Oh and Colossus for the same reasons Hound stated.

:csad: I'd rather Hawkman take the MM place, and I kinda sorts hate Hawkman :O

While I loved Year One, to me the true founding members should always be the big 7.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll give Vic the pity vote for constant sound wave blasts & a magnetic assault that sticks Pitor to a construction beam like a refrigerator magnet.

Cyborg

7 / 2 Colossus

[louiebling$]

I don't see the magnet doing much seeing as Piotr can metal up on command.... He could easily dissolve his armor so he is unaffected to the magnet just to get close enough for an attack and goes back on the assault.

[Genesis 1.0]

Dropping into human form is the single most insane, dumbf+++ move Colossus could do in this situation.

[3dman27]

:csad:

OH and Colossus. Can't stand the fact that they had Cyborg in the JLA. He doesn't belong there! :argh: Plus I can see he's really outclassed here.

it hink they got the idea from the super powers team version of super friends wher he was put in so firestorm would have a teammate his own age

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Colossus

[Anubis]

it hink they got the idea from the super powers team version of super friends wher he was put in so firestorm would have a teammate his own age


And old school Superhero television continues to ruin everything. :argh:

[Lobo]

You can aldo blame Smallville as Cyborg is a founding member of that Justice League, too.

[greenrage36]

Colossus

[Mazrim Taim]

Vic ftw

[CanaryFan]

Cyborg

[Genesis 1.0]

*Yawn* I'll lock this one up today.

9 / 4 Colossus

[random_havoc]

Anybody know where Genesis went? This was a fun thread before it died a month ago.

If not, I vote that somebody take over and start throwing up new rounds :)

[WolfCypher]

For a while all the VS. threads died all at once. The Marvel Vs. and the DC Vs. threads came back. This is the only relevant one left that hasn't.

[Docker2.0]

Forgot all about this thread, guess Genesis is arrested for his drunken behavior drunken behavior again.

[SuperFerret]

Drunken Behavior Squared?

[Anubis]

Well, that's because he only drinks double shots.

[random_havoc]

Forgot all about this thread, guess Genesis is arrested for his drunken behavior drunken behavior again.

Judging from your typing you've been doing a little yourself ;)

Well, the threads been dead for a month now, so I'm gonna start posting matches to bring it back to life. If Genesis comes back or if someone else wants to start posting, by all means let me know :) I just don't want new matches one way or the other.

(by the way, if anyone knows of a list of previous matches somewhere so that I don't duplicate, that'd be very handy).

So, NEW ROUND!

Frank Castle, The Punisher
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Punisher.jpg

vs
Dick Grayson, Nightwing
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Nightwing.jpg

If Nightwing were framed so the Punisher thought he was a murderous criminal, and the two faced off at night in New York, who would win?!?!?!

[Docker2.0]

Sorry, speaking on my behavior. Watching the Berto fight and whoever the heck he's fighting. :o

[Docker2.0]

S9rry guys, so wasting it's not even funmy but yeah................I'm going Freank Castle................First kill shot will be the last.

[SuperFerret]

Dick's been taking out lunatics with guns since he was a kid, so he's got this easily.

[Anubis]

Ehhh, I'll wait till Gen comes back.

[Docker2.0]

Yeah you would! :argh:

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Nightwing. He's practically Batman with a more open moral compass but his strategies and contingency planning skills are on par with Bats whereas Frank likes to go all in with 1 or 2 strategies and improvise on the spot from there.

[random_havoc]

Ehhh, I'll wait till Gen comes back.

No worries. I don't want to step on anyone's toes I just want to see the thread stay alive and figured a month is a long time for the thread to be left blank.
And you've been on the boards longer than me Anubis so if you feel like running a fight thread just say the word and this one's yours til Gen gets back.

[Anubis]

Nah, you can go ahead and keep going if you want.

[steintym]

Nightwing

[greenrage36]

Nightwing will have Frankie under wraps in no time...

[Docker2.0]

Yeah but Punisher won't hold back. All he needs is one clear shot. With the exception of Jigsaw, you don't hear about the Punisher having a rogue gallery because they don't live very long they commit so many crimes. I just think that Frank is just as resourceful and is being vastly underrated in that area, whereas Nightwing being trained by Batman get's the "prep time" thing included in his bouts for the same reason as Batman. If they were just thrown in an arena, no way would Nightwing walk out.

[Anubis]

You know that whole "wont hold back" thing has never been a good reason for why somebody will win. Villains don't hold back, and they still get their assess kicked.

As far as prep time, (Something that a guy like Nightwing rarely uses anyway.)Punisher is pretty damn Prep time dependent himself. He couldn't possibly take guys like Nightwing or Daredevil without setting up a bunch of counter measures beforehand.

Quite Frankly, Castle's out matched here. But I ain't in it so whatevs.

[Docker2.0]

You know that whole "wont hold back" thing has never been a good reason for why somebody will win. Villains don't hold back, and they still get their assess kicked.

As far as prep time, (Something that a guy like Nightwing rarely uses anyway.)Punisher is pretty damn Prep time dependent himself. He couldn't possibly take guys like Nightwing or Daredevil without setting up a bunch of counter measures beforehand.

Quite Frankly, Castle's out matched here. But I ain't in it so whatevs.

Sure you're not! :cwink:

But still, Punisher will shoot the first chance he gets and Dick has no powers so he can't dodge bullets. I just don't see this fight going his way though I'm sure he's going to win because he's more popular and he's the sexy pick of the day.

[Anubis]

And yet, he hasn't been killed yet. Not even by super soldiers with enhanced reflexes and senses or Demonic Hell Gods firing Neither Energy from their butt holes. And an old dude with PTSD from Vietnam is gonna succeed where all those guys failed? I think not. :o

[greenrage36]

And yet, he hasn't been killed yet. Not even by super soldiers with enhanced reflexes and senses or Demonic Hell Gods firing Neither Energy from their butt holes. And an old dude with PTSD from Vietnam is gonna succeed where all those guys failed? I think not. :o

Lol! Funny, as usual, but good point. I'm not saying Dickie ain't gonna have some scars or maybe a bullet hole through a shoulder or something by match's end, but I just can't see Frank winning this. Nightwing has fought much better opposition and I think that levels out the 'Castle resourcefulness' meter....

[Silicon Surfer]

Dick has been dodging bullets since pre-adolescence. Castle is just another street thug to him. A little more tedious to beat down perhaps but no real threat. Dick has been fighting and sparing with superhumans like Donna, Kory, and Deathstroke since about the time he started shaving.

[random_havoc]

Alright, sorry for the wait. My newborn's been keeping my hands full, literally (slowly typing this with one hand actually lol).

I'm voting Frank, but Nightwing is just too skilled for the Punisher, taking him out 5-2

As a theme the next few rounds will all feature girl vs girl matches

With that in mind... New Round!

Ms Marvel
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/MsMarvel-1.jpg

vs
Mary Marvel
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/MaryMarvel.jpg

[greenrage36]

I'll go with Ms Marvel...I'm not sure if she is more powerful, but I think she would have the experience factor in this one..so that's what I'm goin' with...

[steintym]

I agree, Ms Marvel

[Anubis]

I don't know about experience. They've both been around for nearly the same amount of time. She's been kicking ass since she was 5.

No, what might give Ms. M the win would be her power itself. She can absorb energy and use it to power herself up. All she has to do is survive long enough for Mary to do that SHAZAM (Or in her case CAPTAIN MARVEL) trick. (And she will do it, those Marvels luuuuuvvv to do that.) Giving her a massive power up.

But that is of course IF she can survive long enough. Mary is Superman level after all.

[Mary Jane Watson]

ms marvel

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Well if it's the Mary pictured Ms marvel doesn't stand a chance. That's when she had Black Adam and Isis's powers as well and was failry ruthless.

If it's regular Mary Ms Marvel is still very outclassed power wise but Mary would be the Goody Goody and Ms marvel would try to do what ever it took. She'd have a chance in that scenario but I'm still voting for mary marvel!

[Silicon Surfer]

Mary, huge power difference

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I All she has to do is survive long enough for Mary to do that SHAZAM (Or in her case CAPTAIN MARVEL) trick..

.

You had it right the first time. Only Jr yells Captain Marvel.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Mary! Wayyyyy stronger

[Docker2.0]

I'm voting Ms. Marvel.

[3dman27]

Mary Marvel
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/MaryMarvel.jpg

mary

[PemLam]

Mary

[PaleRider]

Mary Marvel

[random_havoc]

I'm voting Mary Marvel as well...
So Mary Marvel beats down Ms Marvel 8-4!!
She just has too much raw power for Ms Marvel to handle

Next Match! :

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Catwoman.jpghttp://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Mockingbird.jpg
Catwoman vs Mockingbird


Who wins, the girl with the sticks or the whip?

[Anubis]

I really don't see how Mockingbird could lose this one. Catwoman isn't that good of a fighter.

[Silicon Surfer]

Mockingbird, Catwoman is an excellent thief but only moderately above average as a fighter.

[greenrage36]

I gotta go with Mockingbird as well, she is the more skilled combatant in this one..

[PaleRider]

i don't know enough about mockingbird to vote on this one

[3dman27]

mockingbird

[Docker2.0]

Mockingbird easily.

[random_havoc]

Dang, judging by people's comments so far I highly underestimated Mockingbird.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

In the recent issues of Secret Avengers she got a massive power boost so Mockingbird.

[steintym]

Assuming it is before the power boost, but still ... Mockingbird

[louiebling$]

Yea Mocking Bird is a far more skilled Fighter than Catwoman not to mention she's and ace with battle tactics

[PemLam]

Mockingbird

[random_havoc]

Okay, after I set up what was apparently a terribly mismatched fight, Mockingbird beats the living crap out of Catwoman 10-0 (that's including me voting right now).

Mockingbird defeats Catwoman 10-0

New (and hopefully more balanced) round! Continuing the woman vs woman theme:

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Spider-Woman-1.jpghttp://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/BlackCanary-1.jpg
Spider-Woman VS Black Canary


And don't forget to put how or why you think your choice would win :)

[Anubis]

That's a bit of a mismatch too. SW has super strength, speed, and reflexes. Plus that venom thing she does.

BC is probably a better fighter, but she's only human. If she can nail her with the canary cry, she's got a shot....but that's a longshot quite frankly.

[random_havoc]

That's a bit of a mismatch too. SW has super strength, speed, and reflexes. Plus that venom thing she does.

BC is probably a better fighter, but she's only human. If she can nail her with the canary cry, she's got a shot....but that's a longshot quite frankly.

Aww crap. I didn't know she had super strength, and I figured with BC having (from my knowledge) better fighting skills and the canary cry thing it'd even out.

[Anubis]

Nah, fighting skill will only get you so far.


While the cry would hurt SW, it's unlikely to put her out of the fight unless she really let loose, which is unlikely.

But you know, maybe a few people will vote for BC because they hate SW. Wouldn't be the first time. :o

[Docker2.0]

Well Anubis, thanks for robbing me of my vote. I was going to vote for BC but didn't know about SW superstrength. So I'm going SW.

[greenrage36]

This one might be a hair more evenly matched then the last one, but Spider-Dub still outclasses BC in this fight, (even though I vastly prefer Canary). The cry will be something to take note of, but I think it only prolongs the inevitable beating she is gonna get...

[Silicon Surfer]

Yeah, super strength, speed and reflexes, bioelectric "Venom Blast", and extensive hth training makes this pretty one sided. Jessica ***** slaps Canary a city block faster than Canary can even see it.

[3dman27]

the canary by sonic cry and kicking sws legs from under her

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I like BC but SW takes this no problem..

[X-Woman]

Spider-Woman easily.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Jessica

[PemLam]

Spider-Woman

[Lord]

canary

[random_havoc]

I'm also voting Spider-Woman. And with that...

ROUND OVER!

Black Canary takes a pounding from Spider-Woman (btw, I'm taking your comments as a vote for SW Anubis ;))

Spider-Woman beats Black Canary 9-2

New Round!

We'll take a brief break from our girl vs girl theme for this one round. For those of you who read the new Stormwatch #1 you saw Apollo highlighted, which made me wonder what would happen if....


http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/MrMajestic.jpg
Mr Majestic
(I amended this from Apollo to Majestic based on other's comments below)

VS

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss70/houseofjanzen/Sentry.jpg
The Sentry

Two characters with Superman power sets, who are also both brutal/lethal fighters. Who wins?

[Anubis]

Sentry's way more powerful.

While Apollo does have Superman like powers, he's really closer to Captain Atom. Energy manipulation, a certain degree of Super Strength and invulnerability. But on the same level as Sentry or even Supes? Not really.

[random_havoc]

Sentry's way more powerful.

While Apollo does have Superman like powers, he's really closer to Captain Atom. Energy manipulation, a certain degree of Super Strength and invulnerability. But on the same level as Sentry or even Supes? Not really.

Hmm, let me amend it then :woot:

[Hound55]

Sentry to tear him apart...

[Anubis]

Hmm, let me amend it then :woot:

Now that's overkill. :o


Majestic alone could take Sentry.

He's Classic Superman with Reed Richards Brain.

[PemLam]

What Anubis said. Majestic takes this by himself.

[Docker2.0]

I'm going Sentry. Even Marvel's greatest minds and most powerful couldn't stop him............................just saying.

[Anubis]

None of which were Mister Majestic.

[random_havoc]

Now that's overkill. :o


Majestic alone could take Sentry.

He's Classic Superman with Reed Richards Brain.

Sunova! Just no making you people happy. Okay, amended to a one-on-one Sentry vs Majestic. This will be the final amendment and I'll just not count any votes from before this post.

Once again I'm gonna suggest somebody else should probably take this thread over (who knows more about DC characters than I do lol)

As for me, I'm voting Sentry. Both are powerful and brutal but with the Void it's like Sentry has two power sets.

[Anubis]

I'm not gonna do it but I could suggest a few fights for you if you'd like. :o

[The Morningstar]

Majestic is a beast. As already said he's basically PC Supes with Reed Richards brain. But can he kill Sentry? I dunno. Guy was pretty much invulnerable. He could reform his body from molecular disintegration.

Depends how long it takes Sentry to reform. Majestic might get a win from a 10 count.

[3dman27]

mr majestic

[PemLam]

Majestic

[random_havoc]

Oh c'mon people. Only reason Sentry died at all is because he wanted to. Not to mention, did you see him in Siege take that straight on hammer hit from Thor and not even be fazed. Dude's a beast. Majestic's goin down.

[CanaryFan]

Apollo makes Sentry see the light, then the void swallows it and Majestic!

[greenrage36]

Eh..what the heck, I'll go with Sentry as well, but this ain't no easy match by any means...

[SuperFerret]

Mr. Majestic.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Sentry cus he managed to go toe to toe with World War Hulk

[scatterax]

sentry