The Ultimate DC/Marvel Tournament - Part 1

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[Genesis 1.0]

Here's the deal:

-Our thread was so badass, so unfailingly popular that the Hype itself was about to collapse from the level of OWNAGE we were emitting.

For the good of the Hype and the Internet as a whole, we're going to restart this thread from #1.

Please try to keep the level of AWESOME to an acceptable level.

[3dman27]

destroyer

[SuperFerret]

Oh joy, another type of thread that'll be screwed up by our new robotic overlord.

[J'adore]

:( noooo

[Sparta*]

subscribed to the new thread!! keep it going Gen!

[PemLam]

Superboy Prime

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Destroyer

[Chunin]

Superboy Prime

[scatterax]

subscribe.......

[Silicon Surfer]

Superboy Prime

[steintym]

Destroyer

[catintheengine]

Based on the little bit that I know about both characters I'd have to go with Destroyer.

[Docker2.0]

The Destroyer only becuase I think being magic based will be the determining factor. Plus I can't stand that big cry baby Prime anyway. :argh:

[PaleRider]

man I really hate doing this but I have to go with Superboy Prime

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I honestly think SPB would tear the Destroyer apart

[louiebling$]

The Destroyer

[WildcatNC]

The Destroyer because of its Magical nature. Very tough call though.

[Genesis 1.0]

Bastard Robot. :cmad:

8-5 Destroyer

[louiebling$]

:pal: haha

[Anubis]

Destroyer depends entirely upon whose soul is using it....so....who's soul is using it?

[Docker2.0]

Loki

[scatterax]

subscribe

[WildcatNC]

Destroyer depends entirely upon whose soul is using it....so....who's soul is using it?

Good point. I had just assumed Loki.

[louiebling$]

Yea let's get that clarified cuz I assumed Odin lol

[Silicon Surfer]

I was assuming Willie Lumpkin.

[Genesis 1.0]

Picky bastards.

Thor's in charge, Odin would be too much and Loki's too low.

[louiebling$]

My vote remains the same

[Anubis]

I don't know about that. I think Loki's soul might be more powerful than Thor's.

Oh and the Destroyer.

[Hound55]

The Destroyer armour.

[Genesis 1.0]

Alright, the Destroyer, powered by the Thunder god Thor takes down the Epic Win or Epic Fail of the DC Universe in Superboy Prime.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Batman Beyond

VS

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Nightcrawler

[louiebling$]

OOoooooo :wow:

[Parker Wayne]

Great Matchup!

At what point in Terry's career? During the show or "Epilogue"?

[PemLam]

Nightcrawler

[Genesis 1.0]

Great Matchup!

At what point in Terry's career? During the show or "Epilogue"?

Let's be fair, Epilouge.

1-0 Nightcrawler

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Terry. Nearly as good as the original Batman.

[Silicon Surfer]

Nightcrawler, better than the original Batman.

[louiebling$]

I'm going With Terry.. he will eventually catch on to Kurts fighting style

[Anubis]

Yeah, Terry.

[Genesis 1.0]

Nightcrawler wins but he'll be half dead, but he will win. Kurt's ability gives him greater advantage in mobility, he's already more agile, and eventually Terry falls to a blitz assault.

Nightcrawler

3-3 TIE

[Anubis]

Terry beat the Parasite, the Fantastic Four, and Elektra on steriods. He can take a three toed dead man easy peasy.

[SuperFerret]

Terry.

[PaleRider]

Nightcrawler

[Parker Wayne]

Let's be fair, Epilouge.

1-0 Nightcrawler

Ah. Then it's not even a challenge.

Terry. He has been under Bruce for 15 years (If I remember epilogue right) and he was trained much more rigorously than Dick or Tim because he was taking the mantle of Batman. He's pretty much mastered everything Bruce taught him. Like Anubis said, he defeated some pretty tought enemies including the Joker. I believe that Terry could at least compete as a teenager, but with all those years under Bruce's tutelage as Batman and the advanced technology, it's not even closee.

He will figure out the patterns between Kurt's morphing/fighting style and take him out.

[Docker2.0]

Terry beat the Parasite, the Fantastic Four, and Elektra on steriods. He can take a three toed dead man easy peasy.

You mean the "Fantastic Three" on the cartoon? :huh:

Tough one but I'm going Nightcrawler. He's a lot more agile and i think his teleportation will frustrate Terry.

[Mazrim Taim]

Kurt

[WolfCypher]

Batman

[WildcatNC]

Das Nightcrawler

[Genesis 1.0]

I simply don't buy Terry being able to predict something that is inherently random, Kurt can teleport wherever the hell he chooses and wherever serves him best. So unless Terry's become a psychic, that shiz ain't happening. In addition as I said, Kurt's got Terry beat so badly in agility and speed it's not even funny, and that's with him not teleporting, throw in the blitz, the tail that's effectively another limb and the fact that NONE of the Bat tech can predict Kurt's powers and I call bulls____.

BAMF is the last thing McGuiness is going to hear.

7-6 Nightcrawler

[Silicon Surfer]

The Danger Room is an immense advantage in training. Kurt is better trained than either Batman could ever be, no matter how long and hard they trained. In addition Terry's body simply won't do what it takes to beat Kurt no matter what his mind and training tell him.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll agree that Kurt's experience and training has a much wider variety and a much higher class of enemy than anything either Batman has ever seen in their usual adventures. Kurt's used to facing guys that can easily destroy buildings, city blocks, and the need to be evasive and elusive is so much higher, his life literally depends on it.

Batmans routinely face guys with guns and that's a major threat in their world, higher powered guys sprinkled in every now and again but nothing near as deadly as what Nightcrawler faces on a daily.

I'd say Batman's training prepares them to the highest levels of what they face and Nightcrawler's extensive training prepares him for the highest levels of what he's going to face.

The class of enemy is just so vastly different.

[WolfCypher]

Terry can go invisible. I haven't seen a time limit or power-drainage for that, so Terry can just stay unseen. Unless Kurt BAMFs every chance he gets, at some point he's going to stand staionary long enough for McGinnis to take a shot. Kurt can't fight wha he can't see, but Batman can strike Nightcrawler during the small window of opportunity he'll have with Kurt reappears from a teleport.

[steintym]

Nightcrawler

[random_havoc]

nightcrawler

[Genesis 1.0]

Terry can go invisible. I haven't seen a time limit or power-drainage for that, so Terry can just stay unseen. Unless Kurt BAMFs every chance he gets, at some point he's going to stand staionary long enough for McGinnis to take a shot. Kurt can't fight wha he can't see, but Batman can strike Nightcrawler during the small window of opportunity he'll have with Kurt reappears from a teleport.

If that were actually the case, he'd do that all day everyday to everyone. Just because it isn't laid out doesn't negate the fact that ANY suit using that kind of tech would find that a big power drain, probably why it wasn't stated seeing as it's obvious.

His suit doesn't have infinite energy and using a cloak like that is bound to take it's toll, so if he takes this route and doesn't get it done in a small window, he's going to end up in a dead suit fighting Nightcrawler.

Let's assume Terry's smarter than that and that's why he doesn't use that strategy.


9-6 Nightcrawler

[Sparta*]

Batman Beyond

[Silicon Surfer]

Nightcrawler is also virtually invisible in shadows.

[Chunin]

Kurt Wagner of the munich circus

[Genesis 1.0]

In a battle born in the shadows, the new Dark Knight takes on a God fearing demon in a battle almost too quick to be seen but in the end, it's Nightcrawler BAMFing his way to a 10-7 victory over Batman.

[Genesis 1.0]

In a battle born in the shadows, the new Dark Knight takes on a God fearing demon in a battle almost too quick to be seen but in the end, it's Nightcrawler BAMFing his way to a 10-7 victory over Batman.

[Genesis 1.0]

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The Incredible Hulk

VS

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Dark Flash & The Flash


{{{Requested Match}}}

[Anubis]

The Flashes

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Why is there a Hulk match-up?! Anyone who votes for him is probably just going to say he'll win cus he'll get angrier and angrier...

The Flashes.

[WildcatNC]

I'm not sure anyone could win honestly. They cant hurt Hulk and he can't catch them.


Since I have to pick someone though i'll go with the Flashes.

Hulk would have to revert to Banner eventually.

[Genesis 1.0]

Why is there a Hulk match-up?! Anyone who votes for him is probably just going to say he'll win cus he'll get angrier and angrier...

The Flashes.

Whaba?

If I banned Hulk matches for that reason then there'd also never be another Batman, Superman, ect. match either.

3-0 Flashes

[Anubis]

I'm not sure anyone could win honestly. They cant hurt Hulk and he can't catch them.


Since I have to pick someone though i'll go with the Flashes.

Hulk would have to revert to Banner eventually.


Sure they can hurt the Hulk. What would make you think that? You do know they can do more than just run fast, right?

[PemLam]

Flashes....easily I believe.

[Genesis 1.0]

Walter or Wally alone would never win this match against Hulk, so I understand why it was suggested as a Handicap. Problem is, Hulk IS going to get more angry and annoyed for the simple fact he can't hit them at the outset, so how long before he shows more of that intelligence we saw in WWH and creates a quake that cracks open the nearby landscape?

Flashes have been caught off-guard like that before and taking a single shot from Hulk would be damn disastrous for either of them. Couple that with his insane healing factor and nearly unlimited stamina and I say he wins a war of attrition.

Hulk

4-1 Flashes

[Anubis]

I disagree my distinguished opponent. :o True, the Flashes have been caught off guard by such things, but, they've been through it enough to figure a way around it. Hell, Vibrating through debris and s**t is kinda their thing.

They've taken hits from people as strong as the Hulk as well. That personal kinetic shield of there's that keeps them from ripping their own skin off while running protects them from heavy hitters as well.

The big key here is, of course, the Dark Flash. Walter is far more likely to go farther than Barry (And that is who that picture is of I would assume.) Once he realizes that Hulk is a huge effin' threat, I don't see him dickin' around. He'd go straight for the infinite Mass punch. which should lay ole Green Genes out if he's not too pissed by then.

[WildcatNC]

Sure they can hurt the Hulk. What would make you think that? You do know they can do more than just run fast, right?


Yea, i'm aware of some of it. "Can't hurt" might be the wrong words. "Can't hurt enough to defeat him" might have been a better choice. I just suspend some of the stuff writers do for these fights. You have to or it gets ridiculous.

Same reason I don't think that Hulk can lift Mt Everest and toss it at the moon if he gets mad enough I don't buy the Flash can move so fast his mass becomes infinite (with all the theoretical physics implications) or he Travels back in time.

You have to draw a line somewhere for these fights IMO.

[Genesis 1.0]

I disagree my distinguished opponent. :o True, the Flashes have been caught off guard by such things, but, they've been through it enough to figure a way around it. Hell, Vibrating through debris and s**t is kinda their thing.

They've taken hits from people as strong as the Hulk as well. That personal kinetic shield of there's that keeps them from ripping their own skin off while running protects them from heavy hitters as well.

They big key here is, of course, the Dark Flash. Walter is far more likely to go father than Barry (And that is who that picture is of I would assume.) One he realizes that Hulk is a huge effin' threat, I don't see him dickin' around. He'd go straight for the infinite Mass punch.

Yeah that's Barry.

Well to take it point by point, I'd have to disagree with them being able to 'deal' with it. If that were truly the case, they'd have adapted to it after the 1st time and here we are on what? Like the 100th and it still breaks their stride. Yes, they've developed with ways to react after the fact but that's just assuming that they can do something before getting their collective jaws jacked.

As to their personal shields, yes it keeps them from being broken rag dolls otherwise they'd never have survived so long, no one's debating that. What it doesn't do is protect them from pain or impact, and I'm referring to being thrown however many meters and usually caroming into whatever surrounding area is left. It still hurts like hell and even Wally's been knocked out before on impact. If there's anything Hulk, especially this new Hulk does well, it's hitting things.

Yes and that's why Walter's there, any other Flash version and they'd be scrap. However I've seen Hulk take down most of the available MU including taking no holds barred shots from the Sentry. Walter's not getting a walk off homer in this one.

In addition, my distinguished opponent, :o I think we can agree that Hulk's healing factor, Durability, and Stamina are superior to his opponents in this match?

[Anubis]

I base it on how often it's done. Namor has electrical powers. But he uses it so infrequently, it has no baring on a fight. Flashes however time travel, move at speeds above the speed of light, and increase the mass on their hits to be able to knock out Giant Telepathic Gorillas with enhanced Strength and Durability all the time. Same with the Hulk and his rage strength. He rarely however punches through dimensions with his rage fists, and the Flashes rarely vibrate a dudes brain threw his head. So they have no baring on the fight.

[WildcatNC]

I base it on how often it's done. Namor has electrical powers. But he uses it so infrequently, it has no baring on a fight. Flashes however time travel, move at speeds above the speed of light, and increase the mass on their hits to be able to knock out Giant Telepathic Gorillas with enhanced Strength and Durability all the time. Same with the Hulk and his rage strength. He rarely however punches through dimensions with his rage fists, and the Flashes rarely vibrate a dudes brain threw his head. So they have no baring on the fight.

I see what your saying. I buy that Flash can knock the HELL out of someone (mass x acceleration). I can also buy the kinetic shields. I've never liked the time travel or "vibrating through matter" though. Takes it to far IMO. The implications of "infinite mass" is just to much.

I feel the same applies to other characters as well though. The more bankable flagship characters are often WAY overpowered to me. Hulk, Superman, Flash, Wolverine, Batman, etc.

Not saying your wrong. Thats just my take on it. Hard to pin a right or wrong on either way.

[SuperFerret]

Not a single one of those guys is overpowered, at least as long as you use logic and sense.

[Silicon Surfer]

One of the flashes simply picks up an iron bar and vibrates it through Hulk's skull and leaves it there. The fight might take one whole nanosecond. Regeneration would do no good since the bar would still be there held in place by the durability of the Hulk's skull.

[WildcatNC]

Not a single one of those guys is overpowered, at least as long as you use logic and sense.


Thats kind of the point. Many writers don't. As the characters get more and more popular they have them taking on or beating guys they couldn't really hang with.

Superman has been brought back to reality a little lately. Hulk has been made to powerful. He can now apparently beat Thor to a pulp and beat every single person in the Marvel U at once. Apparently Batman could defeat ANYONE with about 15 min prep time.

I separate what I know of the characters and use "common" sense like you say from the furthest extremes of what the writers do sometimes.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I have a hard time believing that a bar (or other debris) made of street material is gonna get through the Hulk's skin even with the Flash vibrating them cus his skin is damn durable. The Hulk has no way to touch any of these guys either so it'll up to one of them to figure out how to hurt the other...Also what's the infinite punch thing about? Is it like that scene in the Justice League Cartoon where Flash beats the Braniac suit off of Lex Luthor's body?

[Genesis 1.0]

One of the flashes simply picks up an iron bar and vibrates it through Hulk's skull and leaves it there. The fight might take one whole nanosecond. Regeneration would do no good since the bar would still be there held in place by the durability of the Hulk's skull.

:doh: It's usually here that Anubis ribs you for making a completely out of the box statement.

As Chop's said, they're going to have to do a helluva lot to ram a steel bar through his dome, and at his current rate of regeneration, he could wrench out the bar and the damage would be healing at a rate that would make it more a wound than fatal occurrence.

And damn is THAT going to make him mad. So even stronger and more durable.

Nevermind the fact that this Hulk has a brain and uses it in battle better than most.

You don't beat up on guys like Thor and Sentry and die by steel bar. Sorry.

[Silicon Surfer]

:doh: It's usually here that Anubis ribs you for making a completely out of the box statement.

As Chop's said, they're going to have to do a helluva lot to ram a steel bar through his dome, and at his current rate of regeneration, he could wrench out the bar and the damage would be healing at a rate that would make it more a wound than fatal occurrence.

And damn is THAT going to make him mad. So even stronger and more durable.

Nevermind the fact that this Hulk has a brain and uses it in battle better than most.

You don't beat up on guys like Thor and Sentry and die by steel bar. Sorry.

You've got to be kidding. The vibration is a different mechanism for the same general effect as Kitty's phasing. It causes atoms to pass each other rather than blocking each other. The bar being intangible would go right through his skull with no effort. Once there the Hulk wouldn't even be able to think of yanking it out, or anything else for that matter. The Hulk would be down and out instantly. The Hulk's regeneration would likely allow him to survive and recover if someone else pulled the bar out but the Hulk wouldn't be doing it. Someone with the Hulk's powerset simply doesn't get to even fight back against someone with powers like one of the Flashes.

[steintym]

Like the points everyone is making. I'm still going with ...

Hulk

[WolfCypher]

Hulk

[SuperFerret]

The Flashes. Far more versatile.

[Docker2.0]

Wow! 2 Flashes against one Hulk, doesn't seem fair at all. It's debatable if Hulk can beat one Flash now two? You are asking the Hulk to lose!

Anyway, I'm going Flashes because as I stated earlier, not fair but whatever.

[louiebling$]

Hulk Easily :o

:hulk:

[SuperFerret]

I can't see what the Hulk could do to the Flash, let alone two. Even if he did have unlimited strength (which he doesn't).

[Chunin]

World War Hulk

[Obelisk]

Nice to see my match up finally. Bottom line here is that they can't kill Hulk and he's nearly as smart. Bar through the head? He already been shot in the skull several times and the bullets are pushed out and he's healed.

Besides barry would stop Walter from doing that anyway.

[WolfCypher]

There's really no conclusion to this fight until one side just goes home. Hulk can't be hurt, and even if Dark Flash guy went all murder on Hulk...yeah RIGHT...Hulk'll heal. Quick. Hulk can't touch the Flashes, and even with their high metabolism, I doubt they'd tire out any sooner than Hulk.

Stamina match on steroids. A fight that could last 30 hours if both sides agreed to fight non-stop.

[SuperFerret]

Hulk will heal? Really? Let's not buy into the fanboy propaganda. The Hulk can be defeated and will be defeated by A Flash, nevermind TWO. An infinite mass punch can send him into orbit, they could drag him into the Speed Force or another vibrational dimension, etc. Even IF they went as far as vibrating stuff inside him, it'll take him out long enough to be considered a victory.

People were assuming that all the Flash can do is run fast. We know that he can do more. You know who IS limited? The Hulk. He can't touch the Flashes and they can do all manner of things to defeat him.

Thats kind of the point. Many writers don't. As the characters get more and more popular they have them taking on or beating guys they couldn't really hang with.

Superman has been brought back to reality a little lately. Hulk has been made to powerful. He can now apparently beat Thor to a pulp and beat every single person in the Marvel U at once. Apparently Batman could defeat ANYONE with about 15 min prep time.

I separate what I know of the characters and use "common" sense like you say from the furthest extremes of what the writers do sometimes.

Then do so. Ignore the bad writing, like so many of us have.

[Mazrim Taim]

Hulk beat the best the mu could throw at him all at once, they had time for prep and he still beat them all. Avengers, X-Men, you name it and TWO guys are supposed to beat him?

MU > flash

Make mine hulk

[SuperFerret]

What did I say about bad writing?

[Genesis 1.0]

In a true battle of Strength and Power versus unadulterated Speed, the Incredible Hulk, the Strongest There Is, takes on the duo of Walter West, the heartless Dark Flash & Barry West, the heir to the Mantle in a battle that rages for hours and in the end, that's what does the Flash Duo in, the Hulk grows more enraged and even stronger, enough to eek out the 7-6 victory before reverting back to Banner.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Cassandra Cain

VS

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Black Cat

[louiebling$]

Huntress

[Genesis 1.0]

Black Cat's bad luck ability is going to make this one freaky, especially now that she's shown a mastery of it, she's also got the agility edge.

Huntress is the better fighter hands down, I don't think anyone could dispute that fact. Problem is, she could end up punching herself in the face due to Cat. :(

1-0 Huntress

[louiebling$]

O crap I forgot about That Bad Luck Crap

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, she's got 'em back instead of the Cat claws and such. Otherwise, this wouldn't even be a real match, Huntress would just curbstomp her. At least now it's interesting.

[SuperFerret]

Felicia.

[louiebling$]

Yea I retract my previous Vote based on the fact I hella forgot abou the Bad luck powers returning

Needs some more time to go over scenarios

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Felicia. Her powers are good enough to mess up Spider-man just by being near him.
That and her low cut suit is obviously distracting.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, Huntress isn't a good enough fighter to overcome the Bad Luck that causes guns to misfire and opponents to punch themselves.

Black Cat defeats Huntress.

Perhaps Cassandra Cain is a more fitting match.

0-0

[3dman27]

cassandra cain

[The_Mighty_Thor]

cain

[WolfCypher]

Her luck's turned against her.

Cass.

[PemLam]

Felicia

[Anubis]

Cass

[Sparta*]

Felicia

[SuperFerret]

Cass

[Docker2.0]

As much as I think that bad luck crap would hurt Cain a couple of times, I kind of have that feeling in my heart that Cassandra would pull it out in the end. She's argubly the best fighter in the DCU and even if Black Cat can make her break her leg............some kind of way she'd get a kick in Felicia's face and go for a quick knock out. Felicia is nowhere near the fighter Cassandra is so Cain gets my vote!

[SuperFerret]

How old is Cassandra now?

[Anubis]

That vague space between 17 and 20.

[Genesis 1.0]

Cassandra's a much better fighter, without question, not to say Cat is a slacker, but Cassandra's just better at what she does. As to agility and strength, Cat's still shown a stronger than Olympic level strength but just barely, and they're both notorious for being almost superhumanly agile, so stalemate.

Personally? Gotta go with the chick that's honed her skill to make bad things happen to anyone in her way......

Cassandra Cain :o

7-2 Cassandra Cain

[PaleRider]

Cassandra Cain

[SuperFerret]

That vague space between 17 and 20.

Oh okay, so she doesn't irritate me anymore. Good.

[Silicon Surfer]

Black Cat

[Genesis 1.0]

Yo Surfer, why'd you go Cat?

8-3 Cassandra Cain

[steintym]

Black Cat

[Parker Wayne]

Cassandra Cain

[Parker Wayne]

Cassandra Cain

[Silicon Surfer]

Yo Surfer, why'd you go Cat?

8-3 Cassandra Cain

Felicia was conceived of as an opponent for superhumans. She has fought the likes of Doc Ock, Sabretooth and Venom. The bad luck powers and equipment that pushes her physical abilities to superhuman levels push her out of Cassie's league. The two characters were intended to fight in different leagues. Cassie in the elite human class and Felicia in the low superhuman class.

[Anubis]

Boos**t.

[X-Woman]

Cassandra Cain for attitude.

[Genesis 1.0]

Not quite a wholesale beatdown.

9-5 Cassandra Cain

[WildcatNC]

Felicia was conceived of as an opponent for superhumans. She has fought the likes of Doc Ock, Sabretooth and Venom. The bad luck powers and equipment that pushes her physical abilities to superhuman levels push her out of Cassie's league. The two characters were intended to fight in different leagues. Cassie in the elite human class and Felicia in the low superhuman class.

This.


Black Cat.

[Chunin]

Felicia's luck is in.

[Mazrim Taim]

BLack Cat

[Genesis 1.0]

9-8 Cassandra Cain

[Harlekin]

Cassandra Cain

[Genesis 1.0]

Cassandra Cain, quite possibly the best fighter in the DC Universe, takes on one of the sexiest and most deadly ladies in the Marvel Universe, Black Cat in an all out brawl Unfortunately, Felicia's luck runs out and it's Batwoman with broken arms and legs that crawls away with the 10-8 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

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Surtur

VS

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Pre-Crisis Superman

[SuperFerret]

Hmm... Interesting.

[PemLam]

This is "I can hold a black hole in my hands" Superman? I'm thinking he see's the fire and tries the freeze breath thing, then takes the sword from Surtur and shoves it up his *** like a suppository.

Supes.

If Supes doesn't do that, then his weakness to magic gets him skewered on the end of the sword and turned into a flaming marshmallow.

[louiebling$]

Hmmm..... **** man this is a good one

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Surtur

[Sparta*]

Pre-crisis Supes

[Silicon Surfer]

I have to go with Surtur. Supes simply doesn't have an answer to a body composed entirely of magical flames. And he did lose battles on occasion. When up against magic he usually sought help and that option isn't available here.

[Mazrim Taim]

Surtur

[steintym]

Superman

[Anubis]

Hmmm, I don't know. Could go either way really. Good f**kin' Match Gen.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Superman.. He was way stronger than most of the current Marvel heroes we have now and some of those Marvel heroes could take on Gods pretty easily so it's kinda like basic math to me.

[Anubis]

Maybe you're not aware just how powerful Surtur is. We're talking upper echelon cosmic being here.

[Hound55]

I'm thinking Surtur, to be honest...

[Chunin]

Surtur

[Genesis 1.0]

Hmmm, I don't know. Could go either way really. Good f**kin' Match Gen.

It's a split actually, I was looking for someone to take on Pre-Crisis Supes and Surfer suggested Surtur, and we got this slice of awesome.

5-4 Surtur

[Docker2.0]

But didn't Thor beat Surtur? If Thor could beat him...............................but I'm still going Surtur. I think the magic weakness thing is going to be the one thing that gives him the edge. If I'm not mistaken, I think Mjolnir is one of the main reasons why Thor won but I honestly can't remember if he beat him or not. :huh:

[SuperFerret]

Remember, it's not a magic weakness, it's a vulnerability to magic. Magic doesn't affect him more than anyone else, it just doesn't affect him less also.

[Obelisk]

The Twilight blade is the deciding factor, either of them can beat the other senseless but it won't end. If Clark gets it away from Surtur he's srewed but if not, the walking Ragnarok takes it

Got to mull this over.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll go Superman, guy had godly powers and I'm certain he could physically match up with Surtur to the extent that Surtur could very well lose the Twilight Sword, or at the very least loosen his grip and then it's ova.

Pre-Crisis Superman

6-5 Surtur

[WildcatNC]

Surtur in a tough one.

[Anubis]

I'm gonna go with Supes here. Wont be easy that's for damn sure.

[Obelisk]

PC Superman

[Harlekin]

Surtur

[louiebling$]

Pre Crisis Superman

[SuperFerret]

I'll go with Superman as well.

[CanaryFan]

Surtur

[PaleRider]

supes

[Genesis 1.0]

Pre-Crisis Superman, the god of the DC Universe takes on a certified, walking Ragnarok in Surtur in a clash that extinguishes solar systems but in the end, it's the flame of Surtur that gets snuffed out thanks to the Twilight Sword 10-9.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2hy8m5i.jpg

Hawkman

VS

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2u607c1.jpg

Luke Cage

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hawkman

[Silicon Surfer]

Hawkman. Aerial pigeon assault ftw

[PemLam]

Cage

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Cage if he manages to grab onto Hawkman. Probably tear his wings off and eat them =p.

[steintym]

Cage

[PaleRider]

this is a tough one for me.

[PaleRider]

I have decided Hawkman

[WildcatNC]

Cage.

Hawkman will have to get in melee range eventually. I don't think he makes it back out.

[Parker Wayne]

^ This. That's why I'm going with Cage.

[Sparta*]

Hawkman

[Genesis 1.0]

Thanks Rider, this one is damn tough and these 2 have VERY similar tempers and attitudes regarding battle. In the end, I'll take Cage barely, Carter will find him one of the most difficult guys to injure with drive by attacks, which means he's going to have to settle in for a more protracted battle.

Then it's all downhill for him from there, Cage is stronger and more Durable, and he's gonna need every scrap of it.

Luke Cage


6-4 Luke Cage

[Hound55]

If Hawkman has the Orb of Ra then this thing isn't even close, but I have to ask anyway...

Does Hawkman have the Orb of Ra..?

[Genesis 1.0]

No. They're nearly even with the offsets at their normal levels.

[Hound55]

Yeah, I didn't think so. They're too close to go giving one guy an implement that can basically be used to apply a force equal to dropping a planet on the other guy... but you know how it is. Gotta ask.

Luke Cage.

[3dman27]

hawkman

[Docker2.0]

Luke Cage. Sooner or later he will get his hands on Hawkman and it's over then.

[Genesis 1.0]

It won't be instant of course, Hawkman is damn strong and tough, AND he's a prety good fighter. But yeah, Cage is going to thrash him eventually.

8-5 Luke Cage

[Anubis]

Cage.

[louiebling$]

Power Man

[CanaryFan]

Carter

[Genesis 1.0]

Luke Cage & Hawkman face off, two men who have a whole crapload of attitude and a non-existent store of patience but it's Carter who gets fried in this one as Cage beats him to death with a 10-6 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://oi53.tinypic.com/8x0pzd.jpg

Hawkeye


VS

http://oi56.tinypic.com/30ro3kz.jpg

Dr. Midnite

[WildcatNC]

Clint.


It could be a good fight though. Circumstances play a lot into who could come out on top. I think Clints training is superior, so he would fare better in most circumstances and combat situations.

[louiebling$]

Wait is this Bullseye Hawkeye or Clint? Your choice of picture confuses me lol

[Genesis 1.0]

Bullseye Hawkeye

[louiebling$]

Ok Hawkeye for sure then

[WildcatNC]

Bullseye Hawkeye


Ah, OK. I assumed Clint.


Same answer.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hawkeye

[steintym]

Hawkeye

[Hound55]

Bullseye-Hawkeye... Even if he gets sh**ty with the bow and decides to detach the arrowheads and fling 'em instead...

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

Bullseye.

[Sparta*]

Dr.Midnite

[J'adore]

Bullseye

[CanaryFan]

black out bombs will mess up anybodies aim, even bullseye/Hawkeye. Dr Midnite gets the advantage and makes good use of it.

Dr. Midnite!

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, those black out bombs will completely screw Hawkeye over, and in the meantime, Midnite's just as seasoned if not more so, he'll get under cover and try to work his way toward his hidden shooter and I'll take Midnite in close over Bullseye any day.. An inability to see your target is a total F____ You to any marksman.

Dr. Midnite

7-3 Dr. Midnite

[PaleRider]

Dr. Midnite

[Anubis]

Hawkeye

Wont be easy, but I don't think the Doc could take Hawkeye. He's just too damn good. Black out Bombs or no. Just like every alt future story you see GA kicking ass with one arm, you see a blind Hawkeye, still shooting wings off flies.

[Docker2.0]

Hawkeye

[Genesis 1.0]

10-4 Hawkeye

[J'adore]

I thought we were voting for Bullseye?

[Hound55]

It's Bullseye as Hawkeye, Osborne's Avengers version...

[PemLam]

Hawkeye

[Genesis 1.0]

The Dark Avenger's marksman extraordinaire, Bullseye taking up the mantle of Hawkeye takes on the Wily, Genius, Master of the Black Out, the Justice Society's Dr. Midnite in a battle of polar opposites. Turns out X marks the spot and that spot is through Midnite's dome with an 11-4 thrashing.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://oi56.tinypic.com/ftodog.jpg

Bishop

VS

http://oi51.tinypic.com/2pq5afs.jpg

Magog

[WildcatNC]

This ones tough. At first I want to say Magog but i'll have to go with:


Bishop.


I consider them on equal grounds training wise, with both having high level military style training. Magogs main metahuman attack is energy based, which will only make Bishop stronger. Its close though, would be close to 50/50.

[PemLam]

Have to go with Magog; after several back and forth energy attacks from each of them they'll realize it's getting nowhere and resort to physical attacks. In that case, they're pretty evenly matched skill wise so I'd give it to Magogs superhuman strength and durability to win out.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Magog

[steintym]

Bishop

[PaleRider]

magog

[Sparta*]

Magog

[Docker2.0]

Magog.

[SuperFerret]

Whoever wins, the fans lose.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll go Bishop after a long struggle. Feeding Magog his own blasts after absorbing a few with more power than was administered AND heightened Strength and Durability to match up, he can also turn Physical Attacks against the attacker through absorption to a degree. He'll take it barely.

Bishop

5-3 Bishop

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I'm goin with Magog.

[WildcatNC]

I'll go Bishop after a long struggle. Feeding Magog his own blasts after absorbing a few with more power than was administered AND heightened Strength and Durability to match up, he can also turn Physical Attacks against the attacker through absorption to a degree. He'll take it barely.

Bishop

5-3 Bishop





Pretty much my assessment as well. Once Magog realizes hitting him with energy blasts is useless then it will go to hand to hand, which is roughly equal (Bishop gets superhuman strength and durability after absorbing energy). After that every strike Bishop absorbs gives him more and more kinetic energy to apply through his power.

[Silicon Surfer]

Bishop

[Mazrim Taim]

Bishop

[Hound55]

Bishop.

Choke on that you mutant hating bigots!

[Harlekin]

Magog

[Genesis 1.0]

In a battle of fearsome, battle tested warriors with Future Selves that dwarf their current states, the Mutant Mercenary, Bishop takes on the Relentless Warrior, Magog. Magog gives the time traveler his best shot....and Bishop returns the favor with interest, literally, walking away with the 8-5 victory.

[Genesis 1.0]

http://oi51.tinypic.com/2psix3b.jpg

Exodus

VS

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2zhful1.jpg

Miss Martian

[PemLam]

Exodus

[3dman27]

miss martian

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Exodus

[louiebling$]

Exodus

[Docker2.0]

Exodus

[steintym]

Exodus

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeesh.

5-1 Miss Martian

[CanaryFan]

Megan!

[SuperFerret]

I'll throw a vote to M'gann. I think it could go either way.

[Silicon Surfer]

Exodus

[Sparta*]

Exodus

[Anubis]

Exodus

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll go Martian, com probable mind with physical power Exodus has never faced.


8-4 Exodus

[SuperFerret]

I think the votes would be going in the opposite way were it J'onn instead of M'gann, but she's got that White Martian ferocity to fall back on if **** hits the fan.

[Genesis 1.0]

Thought about using J'onn, but people tend to stop thinking when popularity comes into play.

[The Morningstar]

Hmmm I'm thinking Exodus takes this. He can teleport, which makes up for him being not as fast in flight. And he can drain other psionics/telepaths to boost himself up can't he?

That said, if M'gann can resist a drain and predict his teleport via her own telepathy locations he'll have some trouble.

Good fight but I'm gonna stick with Exodus.

[Lobo]

M'gann

[C.B.C.D]

Exodus

[Docker2.0]

WTF?!?! Is this thread dead or what?! :argh:

[3dman27]

i think thread managers restarting of certain threads is turnin some posters off

[Silicon Surfer]

There doesn't seem to be many posters left on the whole site.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I thought everyone else was just busy =[

[PaleRider]

I thought everyone else was just busy =[

that was my assumption

[steintym]

These Fight Club threads took a real hit with the Thread Manager. Too bad, I always thought they were kind of fun.

[A.Cho.P.o.P.]

I hope everyone comes back...

[PaleRider]

yeah this was one of the threads I really looked forward too when I came on here.

[C.B.C.D]

Ya, this is usually my first stop when I come to the Hype. But I voted two weeks ago and we are still on the same match up. That's too bad, I'm pretty new here and was hoping for more activity...

[Hound55]

Gen is still crying because my 'Zona boys wiped the floor with his Dukies... that's all, he'll be back after he's had his sook... :oldrazz:

[Docker2.0]

That or he got arrested. I told him about picking up those tranny hookers. :csad:

[PemLam]

That or he got arrested. I told him about picking up those tranny hookers. :csad:

They prefer "lady-boys of the night" Docker.