Dungeons And Flagons 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Batman]

Alright, so we had to start anew and re-open the Coffee Shop, too.

(Hey, that rhymed...)

So let's just try and make the best of it, and hope this'll all just settle down soon enough, so that...

...

ANNE HATHAWAY IS FRIGGIN CATWOMAN! :awesome::hrt:

[Carnage27]

The newness...

it's so...

new.

[Byrd Man]

*pisses in the corner*

Let's change that, shall we?

[Catman_prb]

I'll get the weed, hookers and JB. We'll get this place skanky again.

[SuperFerret]

JB's corpse will likely enhance the stank to a level previously unheard of.

[wiegeabo]

*wakes up in his favorite ez chair*

How the hell did I get here?!

[Byrd Man]

Have we ever figured out which swamp we buried him in?

[SuperFerret]

Johnny Blaze, born on a Monday?

[Eddie Brock]

Can I just say that this new 1k rule is going to become complicated and problematic as all Hell, but it might actually help newcomers. Long IC threads are now divided into manageable "volumes." Granted, it's still the same amount of reading to do, but it gives the appearance of less.

[SuperFerret]

Can I just say that this new 1k rule is going to become complicated and problematic as all Hell, but it might actually help newcomers. Long IC threads are now divided into manageable "volumes." Granted, it's still the same amount of reading to do, but it gives the appearance of less.

:cmad:

Yes, the appearance of less, while actually having more.

[Eddie Brock]

:cmad:

Yes, the appearance of less, while actually having more.
Shhh. :oldrazz:

Also, I'd like to petition for people to now use Thread Tools at the top of a page instead of "posting to subscribe." If our posts are limited so greatly, we're going to have to make them count! :cmad:

[Byrd Man]

Shhh. :oldrazz:

Also, I'd like to petition for people to now use Thread Tools at the top of a page instead of "posting to subscribe." If our posts are limited so greatly, we're going to have to make them count! :cmad:

Agreed.

Yeah, I just wasted another post! WHAT?! DO SOMETHING!

[Eddie Brock]

Agreed.

Yeah, I just wasted another post! WHAT?! DO SOMETHING!
Seconded.

[Byrd Man]

Indeed

[Eddie Brock]

:up:

[Carnage27]

Indubitably

(This is probably getting out of hand, but I say damned with being in hand!)

[Byrd Man]

I concur.

[Eddie Brock]

:o.

[SenseiofCheese]

Sure, this is a bit more problematic than the old way, but I doubt it will take us long to get used to it. Besides, whenever I see a brand new thread I immediately go "OH! SHINY!" and want to sign up even though there's nothing to sign up for.

[SenseiofCheese]

Edit: Double post.

SenseiofCheese: Getting the threads to 1k posts, twice as fast!

[wiegeabo]

How about the brass leave us alone in the basement, and take care of (euphemism for kill/murder/use a Molotov cocktail on) all those damned community games where they do nothing post names of bands, or comment on the avatar of the poster above them :cmad:

[Byrd Man]

Edit: Double post.

SenseiofCheese: Getting the threads to 1k posts, twice as fast!

Looks like the lag still isn't fixed! No more threads over ten posts!

[Eddie Brock]

We all really should've seen this coming.

Nolan + Catwoman + Bat-forums = Nostril-f***ing the Hype servers.

[SenseiofCheese]

Can you imagine what it's going to be like when the first teaser trailer hits the web? You will lag driving to work.

[wiegeabo]

If the threads I'm in that have been switched over are any indication, this new small thread rule is just going to drive posting up!

Seriously, when's the last time Flagons has been this busy?

[wiegeabo]

If the threads I'm in that have been switched over are any indication, this new small thread rule is just going to drive posting up!

Seriously, when's the last time Flagons has been this busy?

[wiegeabo]

If the threads I'm in that have been switched over are any indication, this new small thread rule is just going to drive posting up!

Seriously, when's the last time Flagons has been this busy?

[Eddie Brock]

I don't know, but triple posts aren't helping. :oldrazz:

[wiegeabo]

I'm bringing this new system to it's knees!

Fight the power!!! :argh:

[Carnage27]

I say the Bat forums just get made into their own site. That will solve every problem.

Or just burning them.

Either one.

But I prefer option B.

[SenseiofCheese]

While we're on the subject, many of us are fans of the Secret Six series, yes? Definitely one of the best team books in recent memory, and due in no small part to Simone's development of the characters.

Now, how close to the third Batman movie do you think Bane will start popping up in all the Bat-titles and much of what Gail has made him into in Secret Six will be ignored?

[wiegeabo]

I want to say Cornell is friends with Simone, but I could be thinking of someone else. Either way, I trust Cornell with B&R if Bane shows up. (Oh **** me, I just realized that Bane could be in 'Batman & Robin'...again!)

Morrison...could either be epically good or epically bad (somehow, he can even manage to pull off both)

[Byrd Man]

Now, how close to the third Batman movie do you think Bane will start popping up in all the Bat-titles and much of what Gail has made him into in Secret Six will be ignored?

With Morrison at the helm of the bat-franchise, you can never tell. He might pop up, but you never know. Joker wasn't really crammed down everyone's throats in the comics post TDK, but there was that mini-series where the guy did a Joker story with a very TDKesque Joker.

[trustyside-kick]

I blame the Bat***** crazy Batfans for this...

...

...ok and maybe the Canadians had something to do with it. What, with their 'eh's and their 'aboot's. Makes me sick.

[Batman]

While we're on the subject, many of us are fans of the Secret Six series, yes? Definitely one of the best team books in recent memory, and due in no small part to Simone's development of the characters.

Now, how close to the third Batman movie do you think Bane will start popping up in all the Bat-titles and much of what Gail has made him into in Secret Six will be ignored?

Personally, I'm hoping more emphasis will be put towards Bane's past than his present. His Secret Six stint is enough to gratify the character through continuing adventures, but there are alot of great Batman stories from the early-to-mid nineties that have largely been ignored because there hasn't been any new editions of them of recent memory. Vengeance of Bane I and II, a more complete Knightfall collection, Legacy, his return in Legends of The Dark Knight (which is 2000's, but I digress), and others could really benefit from a re-release.

Now, a new mini-series by a talented writer and artist certainly wouldn't hurt. Like Byrd mentioned, both The Joker and Two-Face got such treatment through Brian Azzarello's Joker and Mark Sable's Two-Face Year One. So for Bane and Catwoman to get the same, or perhaps even better quality of mini-series' would be quite cool. But I don't think Bane's portrayal in current continuity gets much better than under Gail Simone's masterful characterization. :yay:

[Saved]

It appears the thread limit's been bumped to 5000 posts. YAY.

[SuperFerret]

The rebellion is still going on though. We will not stop until the machines are gone.

[Saved]

Good luck fighting robots that can't feel pain, don't have compassion, and can interface with any electronic device to track and destroy you.

*eyes blink red*

;)

[SuperFerret]

*decapitates Syn just in case*

[Saved]

Thanks for killing my LMD, SF. :cmad: You owe me.

[SuperFerret]

*decapitates the other Syn, just in case-er*

[Saved]

:awesome:

...

:cmad::cmad:

[SuperFerret]

*decapitates MB's goats*

[Byrd Man]

SF has become John Conner....God help us all.

[wiegeabo]

*shoots Syn in the face*

Oh, wait. Syn was a robot?!

[Batman]

*decapitates MB's goats*

:wow:

No...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/magic_hoodie/sombrero_vader.jpg

[wiegeabo]

You mean you don't go to that Japanese restaurant where you pick out the animal, **** it, then eat it? They did have goats on the menu.



And, yes, it was a real place before it was shutdown.

[Batman]

Don't mock my attempts to break onto the fast food scene.

That's just rubbing salt in the wound. :csad:

[wiegeabo]

Hey. You just gotta try again, man. Live the dream!

[Spike_x1]

Personally, I'm hoping more emphasis will be put towards Bane's past than his present. His Secret Six stint is enough to gratify the character through continuing adventures, but there are alot of great Batman stories from the early-to-mid nineties that have largely been ignored because there hasn't been any new editions of them of recent memory. Vengeance of Bane I and II, a more complete Knightfall collection, Legacy, his return in Legends of The Dark Knight (which is 2000's, but I digress), and others could really benefit from a re-release.

Now, a new mini-series by a talented writer and artist certainly wouldn't hurt. Like Byrd mentioned, both The Joker and Two-Face got such treatment through Brian Azzarello's Joker and Mark Sable's Two-Face Year One. So for Bane and Catwoman to get the same, or perhaps even better quality of mini-series' would be quite cool. But I don't think Bane's portrayal in current continuity gets much better than under Gail Simone's masterful characterization. :yay:Re-releasing Legacy would be such a bittersweet victory, since it's a great story and has been out of print for a good while now (maybe collect the Bane of the Demon miniseries as a TPB as well), but I might cry a little if they did that because I went to great lengths over a period of several years to track down each individual issue of that storyarc. :argh:

What would be really great is if we could see Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan reuniting for a new spotlight or something like that for Bane (Vengeance of Bane III, perhaps? :awesome:).

[Batman]

I really wish that would happen. Dixon's one of my top five favorite Batman writers ever, but the way that he left DC seemed to indicate that he had clashed with the company mid-way through his run on Batman & The Outsiders, so the idea of his return doesn't seem likely. :csad:

[Byrd Man]

**** you, Spike!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125177-henry-cavill-to-play-superman

Looks like you got your wish, you ****ing Canuck! :argh:

[Batman]

**** you, Spike!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125177-henry-cavill-to-play-superman

Looks like you got your wish, you ****ing Canuck! :argh:

Wow, that didn't even come to mind when I heard about it.

Yeah, between this and Bane being the next Batman villain, Spike's probably doing cartwheels all over British Columbia. :oldrazz:

[Carnage27]

^^^Sounds good to me.

[Saved]

Wow, that didn't even come to mind when I heard about it.

Yeah, between this and Bane being the next Batman villain, Spike's probably doing cartwheels all over British Columbia. :oldrazz:
I think he's the reason it's all happening. :ninja:

Spike, your next mission: Get Beast Wars back on the air.

[Spike_x1]

Don't forget that I also got Duke Nukem Forever back on track! :cmad::up:

[NiteMare Shape]

I'm right there with Spike though...I've wanted him for Supes since I first saw him in The Tudors

[wiegeabo]

Don't forget that I also got Duke Nukem Forever back on track! :cmad::up:

how so?

Because we all know that Duke was so fed up with the wait, that he spontaneously brought himself to life and finished the game on his own.

[wiegeabo]

show my post Hype! :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

show my post Hype! :cmad:

[Spike_x1]

That triple post was for doubting my powers.

[wiegeabo]

Ha! Shows what you know. That was only a double post. The second post was complaining about the Hype not showing my first post, hoping that it would show my first post. :p

[Spike_x1]

It's only a double post because I erased the third one before you saw it.

I am King of the Internet! :argh:

[Rain Dog]

Man, the Super Bowl commercials sucked this year. But the game was great. :up:

[Carnage27]

Man, the Super Bowl commercials sucked this year. But the game was great. :up:

I thought there was a good amount of funny commercials.

And the Captain America and Thor commercials were good.

[wiegeabo]

Cap just wasn't long enough.

There were only maybe a half dozen funny commercials, and even they weren't that funny. The Vader one cracked me up the most. The way the kid sold his reaction at the end made it all the better.

This was probably the worst year for Superbowl commercials that I can remember. Was it me, or did car companies use all that bailout money just for this?

Really, everything about the game, except the actual game, was pretty bad.

[Carnage27]

Cap just wasn't long enough.

Agreed.

It was nice to finally see Red Skull, and Cap as the skinny soldier he starts out as.

[wiegeabo]

Yeah, skinny Evans looked freaky good.


...that didn't come out right.

[wiegeabo]

http://oi56.tinypic.com/29krk84.jpg

[Saved]

It's a 'reset' year, Wieg. Now everyone's expectations have been lowered so next year, mediocre commercials will seem fantastic. :o

That being said, all the tv spots for the films were great.

[wiegeabo]

A reset year? What does that even mean?

You'd think with the possibility of there not being a Superbowl next year that everyone would be at the top of their game. But the commercials were either overly dramatic, or the humor completely out of place and not fitting with the product being sold. There were tons of technical problems and screwups, a brutal half time show, and bland commentary.

Luckily it was a good game.

[Saved]

A reset year? What does that even mean?
It was a joke ... there is no such thing. :o

My point was simply that, if this year's half time show and commercials were really bad, anything else would have to be good.
You'd think with the possibility of there not being a Superbowl next year that everyone would be at the top of their game. But the commercials were either overly dramatic, or the humor completely out of place and not fitting with the product being sold. There were tons of technical problems and screwups, a brutal half time show, and bland commentary.

Luckily it was a good game.
Maybe companies have lost touch with their consumers? Well, the companies who bought 3 Million dollar tv slots, anyway.

[Eddie Brock]

Yeah, I found the commercials to be a bit flat. A few too many relied on slapstick, which was good for a cheap laugh but definitely not memorable. Even the VW Vader, which everyone seems to love, didn't really strike a cord with me. Thought it was cute, but it really did nothing for me. And it may be time for a reset on the E-Trade baby.

[wiegeabo]

I thought Vader was the best of the commercials. It got the biggest laugh out of me, it's one of the few I remember, and it's the only one I've cared to watch again.

[SuperFerret]

If the kid Vader commercial was a Superbowl ad, how come I saw it about a week ago?

[wiegeabo]

If the kid Vader commercial was a Superbowl ad, how come I saw it about a week ago?

I saw a teaser about a week ago. But it was just the part where he's walking down the hallway. Not the whole thing.

[SuperFerret]

I saw the whole thing. Had no idea it was a Superbowl ad.

[Batman]

Because for some reason, people thought it'd be wise to release ads online way before the actual game. Were it not for the Cap and Thor TV spots, I wouldn't have even paid attention - the little of it that was good was already made available.

[Saved]

Because for some reason, people thought it'd be wise to release ads online way before the actual game. Were it not for the Cap and Thor TV spots, I wouldn't have even paid attention - the little of it that was good was already made available.
Which begs the questions, "if you were going to pre-release them ... why did you waste 3 Million dollars for a specific time slot?"

Disposable income must be nice.

[wiegeabo]

Like I said, I guess we know where all the stimulus money went. :o

[SuperFerret]

It is. Thanks for noticing.

*lights a cigar with a burning orphan*

[wiegeabo]

Now that's how you deal with the surplus population

[SuperFerret]

I raided Byrd's Orphan Cabinet. I figure he won't notice.

[wiegeabo]

He puts barcodes on those kids for a reason.

[Carnage27]

Okay, so not gonna lie, the trailer for First Class is pretty awesome looking.

UrbHykKUfTM

[Eddie Brock]

I found it to be a heaping, steaming pile of "meh," personally. It didn't really affect my opinion on the film - which, I guess, is a good thing because I didn't hate the trailer, but is also a bad thing because I hate the film. But I didn't really expect the trailer to change my mind, so it was...meh. *shrug*

[Carnage27]

I found it to be a heaping, steaming pile of "meh," personally. It didn't really affect my opinion on the film - which, I guess, is a good thing because I didn't hate the trailer, but is also a bad thing because I hate the film. But I didn't really expect the trailer to change my mind, so it was...meh. *shrug*


I was dead set on this sucking from the get go. Then they picked Vaughn to direct, and my suck warning lowered a little. And then they picked a superb cast and it lowered more. Then I saw the trailer, which I think is superb, and now I'm planning on seeing it.

It has to be better than X3, right?

...

Right?:dry:

[Saved]

I honestly thought the best part about that trailer was the music. If I look at the movie as completely its own thing, I might enjoy it from what I've seen in the trailer. Even still, I'll have to hear/see more before I decide whether or not I'll actually go to theaters to see it.

[Carnage27]

If I look at the movie as completely its own thing

That's the way I'm trying to look at it. As a completely separate entity from the previous movies.

[Batman]

I'm sure I'll be in the minority, but I thought it was pretty cool. Really cool, infact, in a way that I haven't felt since I saw X2 for the first time.

To be honest, I don't get the widespread criticism that the film gets at this point... whether it's the complaint that it doesn't feature the original X-Men lineup, none of whom would fit within the timeline of Xavier and Magneto's age during their falling out aside from Beast, or that it features too many mutants, which has always been kind of the point of the X-Men brand. Teams versus teams, mutants at war with one another.

I like how the film is basically going out of it's way to say "Look, this is the first X-Men mission. This is the trial and error that Xavier has to go through to be a better teacher to the future members. He can't just go off and preach a message of peace without experiencing what Erik's way would bring the world."

[wiegeabo]

I was dead set on this sucking from the get go. Then they picked Vaughn to direct, and my suck warning lowered a little. And then they picked a superb cast and it lowered more. Then I saw the trailer, which I think is superb, and now I'm planning on seeing it.

It has to be better than X3, right?

...

Right?:dry:

The trailer for X3 looked awesome too...

[Eddie Brock]

The trailer for X3 looked awesome too...
...and wieg wins the internet.

[Carnage27]

I'm sure I'll be in the minority, but I thought it was pretty cool. Really cool, infact, in a way that I haven't felt since I saw X2 for the first time.

To be honest, I don't get the widespread criticism that the film gets at this point... whether it's the complaint that it doesn't feature the original X-Men lineup, none of whom would fit within the timeline of Xavier and Magneto's age during their falling out aside from Beast, or that it features too many mutants, which has always been kind of the point of the X-Men brand. Teams versus teams, mutants at war with one another.

I like how the film is basically going out of it's way to say "Look, this is the first X-Men mission. This is the trial and error that Xavier has to go through to be a better teacher to the future members. He can't just go off and preach a message of peace without experiencing what Erik's way would bring the world."

I agree.:up:

[SuperFerret]

X3 is still my favorite X-Men film.

[wiegeabo]

X3 was one of those movies that I really liked in the theater. But fell apart as I thought more about it.

[Carnage27]

X3 was one of those movies that I really liked in the theater. But fell apart as I thought more about it.

I felt that way about Crystal Skull. But I think that was due to denial about a bad Indiana Jones movie.

[Eddie Brock]

I will admit:

First Class Mags helmet > X-Trilogy Mags helmet.

[Byrd Man]

I'll go see First Class. What the hell, why not? I saw The Spirit in the theater, so the bar has been set that low.

[SuperFerret]

I felt that way about Crystal Skull. But I think that was due to denial about a bad Indiana Jones movie.

I've never seen a bad Indiana Jones movie.

[Rain Dog]

The trailer makes it look better than I thought it would be, but I'm still gonna wait for more info/reviews before I decide if I'm gonna see it.

[wiegeabo]

I've never seen a bad Indiana Jones movie.

So you've only seen 1 & 3?

[Saved]

Edit

[SuperFerret]

So you've only seen 1 & 3?

I've seen them all, not a one would be considered "bad".

[Carnage27]

So you've only seen 1 & 3?

Temple of Doom isn't bad. Different, but not bad.

Wish I could say the same of Crystal Skull.

[wiegeabo]

I liked Skull in the theater. But now, much like Temple, I wouldn't watch it if it came on tv except for certain parts.

1 & 3 I'll watch pretty much every time.

[wiegeabo]

http://i53.tinypic.com/zlt20g.jpg

[Carnage27]

Nice!

Anyone watch Community? They had a great Firefly joke last night.

[wiegeabo]

I'm an episode behind, but I'll be on the lookout for it.

I had to post something now that Firefly is returning to tv.

[Carnage27]

I had to post something now that Firefly is returning to tv.

A friend posted an article about that on their facebook. I basically started celebrating what I thought were new episodes, only to be crushed by the fact that it's just reruns.

[wiegeabo]

Yes, it's a poorly worded headline.

Bastards.

[Carnage27]

Yes, it's a poorly worded headline.

Bastards.

Agreed.

Now...post in OU.:awesome:

[wiegeabo]

Hopefully none of you are still using IE6. Because Microsoft is doing its best to finally kill it, and rightfully so.

http://ie6countdown.com/

[wiegeabo]

http://i47.tinypic.com/vfi2l4.jpg

Futurama just got picked up for another season!

[Batman]

Yay!

Another season of subpar episodes to tarnish the original run...

[wiegeabo]

Not sure what you were watching, but the new season was great :cmad:

[Batman]

I liked the episode where Fry had to experience two cycles of the universe in order to be on time for a date with Leela, and the season premiere wasn't bad... but other than that, I just didn't feel it for this one like I did the others. :csad:

[Carnage27]

Another season of subpar episodes to tarnish the original run...

Aside from the first two episodes in last season, I thought it was superb.

[Spike_x1]

How come I'm only just hearing about this (http://www.slashfilm.com/gotham-high-animated-teen-batman-show/) now?

[trustyside-kick]

I am glad that never came to be. Aside from being silly DC doesn't need to promote Batman anymore than they already do and they already do that too much.

[Spike_x1]

But it looks so entertainingly bad! :awesome:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk23/Spike_x1/BAAAAD.jpg

Lawl, Bane's the only one who doesn't get a real name listed at the bottom, even though they went through the trouble of making up such a creative one for the Joker. King Snake must've had some interesting ideas on naming children if that's what he came up with for his son. :up:

[wiegeabo]

Oh. That explains that one Create-A-Post post.

[wiegeabo]

This place needs to get rolling again.


http://i51.tinypic.com/33voh8y.jpg

[Spike_x1]

That one's not even a challenge for Mac. :o

[wiegeabo]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2wd10uc.jpg

[Carnage27]

Go see Thor! It's a really fun movie. Much better than what I expected.

[Spike_x1]

It was indeed quite awesometastic. It might just be the immediate post-viewing euphoria speaking, but it rivals the first Iron Man movie as my favorite Marvel theatrical adaptation.

Also, it should go without saying, but because many people in my theater left during the credits, I guess not everyone knew to once again stay after the credits. Do it, f**kers.

After the Infinity Gauntlet was shown at Comic-Con(?), I was expecting it to be either in the hall of weapons in Asgard, or to be the thing after the credits. When I didn't see it in Asgard, I just assumed it would be after the credits. I was wrong, but not disappointed.

[Rain Dog]

I thought it was meh.

[Byrd Man]

I thought it was meh.

I think you're meh! :cmad:

[Rain Dog]

Fair enough.

[SuperFerret]

I thought it was meh.

You have made a deadly foe this day.


Also, who the hell are you!? :cmad:

[Byrd Man]

Just so everyone knows, I am boycotting the Thor movie due to the horrible inaccuracies. It's one thing to have a movie filled with immortal characters from Norse mythology fighting frost giants, indestructible husks of armor, and other types of beast...but to ruin the realism by changing a character to another race?! This cannot stand.

[SuperFerret]

Have you read my "F*** 'im/'em/it" post? It's fruit flavored.

[Byrd Man]

Have you read my "F*** 'im/'em/it" post? It's fruit flavored.

I've seen people throwing a *****ing fit about Idris Elba playing Heimdall. I say who the **** cares?

[SuperFerret]

As do I. Profanity laced arguments are best.

[Carnage27]

Not to mention that he's completely badass in the movie.

[Spike_x1]

I've seen people throwing a *****ing fit about Idris Elba playing Heimdall. I say who the **** cares?No love for Japanese Hogun? :csad:

[Byrd Man]

No love for Japanese Hogun? :csad:


I'm not familiar with the Thor backstory like I am with other characters, but I liked that the Warriors Three were each different types of warriors. One was more of a viking type, while you had your Samurai, and then the swashbuckling musketeer type.

[Carnage27]

I agree...

It shows that the warriors affected/influenced all cultures rather than just the Norse.

[wiegeabo]

IT'S NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE SOURCE MATERIAL!!! THE END IS NIGH!!! **** EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THE MOVIE, WATCHED THE MOVIE, AND THOUGHT ABOUT THE MOVIE!!! MY CHILDHOOD HAS BEEN RAPED AND BASTARDIZED BY THESE CHANGES!!!!



I plan on seeing it tomorrow.

[Spike_x1]

I'm not familiar with the Thor backstory like I am with other characters, but I liked that the Warriors Three were each different types of warriors. One was more of a viking type, while you had your Samurai, and then the swashbuckling musketeer type.

Never thought of it that way. Interesting...

[SuperFerret]

Hogun looks like a Hun in the comics.

[Batman]

I slept through my intended showing's time today, so I'm gonna have to see it tomorrow. :csad:

[Byrd Man]

I would say I'm surprised......but it is you, after all.

[Batman]

Don't you have posts to write? :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

Thor was very awesome. A lot more humor than I expected (the audience had great reactions), and the acting from the Earth cast was better than I had heard.

My only qualms: many of the fight scenes were shot too close to truly enjoy the choreography (seems to be an epidemic these days); needs more Warriors Three, Sif, and Heimdall fighting (forgivable because this is Thor's origin, but I want to see some of that Dashing swordplay); I had hoped that Loki had always known about being a Frost Giant, and that was his motivation, but being jealous of Thor was good enough and accurate, Kat Denning contributed nothing except some lack luster and unnecessary comic relief (they could have at least given her the job of decoding technobabble for the audience).

Minor qualms about a pretty spectacular movie.

[SuperFerret]

Comic relief is never unnecessary.

[Batman]

Jar-Jar Binks begs to differ.

[Spike_x1]

Her character didn't annoy me nearly as much as I thought she would, based on the trailers. Still, there were definitely times where I wish she would've shut her b**ch hole (not a single human being gives a **** about your damn ipod, you wiener. Wasn't funny, just eyerollingly begging for laughs).

[wiegeabo]

Her character didn't annoy me nearly as much as I thought she would, based on the trailers. Still, there were definitely times where I wish she would've shut her b**ch hole (not a single human being gives a **** about your damn ipod, you wiener. Wasn't funny, just eyerollingly begging for laughs).


Exactly. That joke was overdone, as was 'Mew Mew'. But I wouldn't have minded those at all if they had given her character anything to do. She found Thor falling in the picture, and took the photo they used on the id card, and...um...and...

Whatever else she did, it was nothing anyone else could have done.


Something else I just thought of, I'm wondering if there's a deleted scene going into Thor and Sif's relationship. Because there was a moment when Sif realized how Thor felt about Jane and had that expression of sad realization. But I don't think it was something a regular audience would have really put much into.

[wiegeabo]

On the plus side, Thor spinning his hammer made me need to change my pants :awesome:

[Carnage27]

Something else I just thought of, I'm wondering if there's a deleted scene going into Thor and Sif's relationship. Because there was a moment when Sif realized how Thor felt about Jane and had that expression of sad realization. But I don't think it was something a regular audience would have really put much into.

I agree. The end hinted at something more being there between them that was never explained.

[wiegeabo]

Even the previews attached to Thor were epic.

It started with Captain America. Seeing the trailer on the big screen has made me more excited for it than I ever was for Thor.

Then Super 8. Which looks like one heck of a ride, but not a the type of movie I'm interested in seeing in the theater.

Zeo Saldana's action flick looks to be a hell of a ride, despite the potential to be formulaic.

A longer Stranger Tides movie has me thinking it'll get back to the fun of the first, but might still be as overly complex as the third.

And then Paris at Midnight....

....

...who the hell thought a Woody Allen comedy would be a good trailer to end on?! Who the hell thought a Woody Allen comedy should be attached to Thor at all?!?!?!

[Carnage27]

I had Captain America, Columbiana, Super 8, Conan, and...crap I forget what else.

Super 8 and Cap look great. Columbiana looks like a female version of Taken to me, and Conan looks like a steaming pile of crap.

[wiegeabo]

I'm still not sure about Conan. It could surprise and be good (not great), but I'm certainly not going to get my hopes up. I'm not really impressed by the trailer. Not even with Mamoa. Which makes no sense because he was ****ing epic in Stargate Atlantis and should have been the perfect choice to play Conan.

[Batman]

I had Cap, Columbiana, Stranger Tides, and Super 8. And a whole slew of lame commercials before them, which just made me interally groan. Since when did regular, run-of-the-mill commercials have a place in theaters? If I wanted to see an ad for Olay or Coke or friggin' Lowes on a huge ass screen with surround sound, I'd buy an HDTV. :cmad:

Something else I just thought of, I'm wondering if there's a deleted scene going into Thor and Sif's relationship. Because there was a moment when Sif realized how Thor felt about Jane and had that expression of sad realization. But I don't think it was something a regular audience would have really put much into.

While I haven't read it myself, a friend of mine who read an earlier draft of the script described a scene just like the end with Frigga and Sif, only in the script, Sif was supposed to confess feeling something for Thor. So it was likely there and might have even been shot, because that scene certainly felt chopped down from what it was, but we'll probably never know until a DVD comes out with deleted scenes.

Sadly, there was also alot more Warriors Three stuff in the script, aswell. I kept waiting for all of these awesome moments that I had heard about and in the end, nadda. Now I just want a Warriors Three film within itself. Volstagg needs more screentime, goddammit. :csad:

[Spike_x1]

I had trailers for Cap, Conan (which I'm more or less on the optimistic side for), Super 8, and some forgettable ones. Was hoping to see the new Green Lantern trailer on the big screen, but I knew that it likely wasn't going to be attached to a Marvel movie. Oh wellz.

[Batman]

Heh. Oddly, I had a TDK trailer with Iron Man. :o

[wiegeabo]

I think some places did get GL with Thor.

[Hound55]

We had GL with Thor.

[NiteMare Shape]

I had Captain America, Columbiana, Super 8, Conan, and...crap I forget what else.

Super 8 and Cap look great. Columbiana looks like a female version of Taken to me, and Conan looks like a steaming pile of crap.

I had all those, plus Stranger Tides...and I had Green Lantern instead of Cap.

[twylight]

GAh okay. Because Wieg linked me and I can not be stopped. My two cents don't mean much since I always disliked the Thor comics (Ultimate Thor was cool though) however I DID have a HUGE CRUSH on Donald Blake. Srsly re-read every Avengers comic I had he was in (two) a bunch of times back in my Marvel days.

First showing my previews were [IMAX]:
Super 8, Colombiana (the one where they repeated 'Remember where you came from' a ****ton), Green Lantern (after which my brother said 'Remember where you came from.' and the group of frat boys behind us went crazy), Conan. That was it.

Second showing previews [Cinemark]:
Colombiana (apparently they cut 'Remember where you came from' down to one, good call on their part), Immortals, Conan and The First Class.

ALRIGHT Movie time, fast and to the point.

CGI was epic (I wonder if Asgard has travel visas?), liked the camera angles. I do think some of the action scenes moved a little too fast for my liking, but that seems to be the style now.

Darcy didn't bother me nearly as much as everyone else seems to be bothered by her. She was a non-entity for me and clearly there to act as a lighter foil between Jane and Erik. While on the Asgard side it came from the bearded man and The One Who Should Be Green Arrow (fan titled); Darcy had to do it all by herself. Hmm...I think she should get a bright, shiny gold star.:o

Jane - Portman did a much better job than I expected. Coincidentally, Star Wars Ep III was on the night before and I caught a glimpse of her acting then. WOW a marked difference. I actually really enjoyed her performance.
Except for the overly-developed romance that had no logical foundation, the '****' kiss (as a friend said "If you find a guy who's gentleman enough not to kiss you on day two of knowing you, don't force it."), the inevitable slow motion 'NOOOOO' and equally painful dragging-away-No,-I-won't-go-despite-the-sonic-boom-object-heading-this-way scene. But whatchagonnado?

Thor: Hot. I think he bumps Ang Lee's CGI Hulk off the top of my Marvel Movie Hotties list (But I'm bias, he was the best part of Star Trek :woot: ). :cwink: Props on the epic voice of Thor without sounding cheesy. He pulled it off with sincerity and bypassed corniness. Loved the characterization, well written. Even his jackassery/stupidity was believable, maybe it's because he reminded me of my brother.

The one thing I have mixed feelings on is the Thor/Jane connection. So she changed him. How? When was this epic moment of the lightbulb going on in his head?
On the other hand, I liked how gently it was handled. It wasn't ham handed. There were no epic speeches on her part to change him. It was a purely internal thing on his part influenced by living life on another world, seeing life differently and without the giant hammer of smashage. I think in the end I fall on the side of feeling it was well done and thoughtful.

Quick note on Sif/Thor: Maybe it's a female thing? But it was fairly obvious from the first scene with her that Sif had feelings for Thor. Women just aren't around hunkiness like that (or involved in stressful situations i.e. fighting for your life) without feeling some sort of attachment to someone who's shown faith in you. The way she reacted to things throughout the movie made it obvious. Thus scene at the end was a little heartbreaking, whether it was because she loved him as a friend or something more, she realized she wasn't the only woman in his life. Maybe there was a scene with her and Thor but in my book it would have slowed the pace.

And last but not least, my absolute favorite: Loki.
Words can not express how much I loved this character. The layering of emotions was epic, his monologues were amazing. I actually felt for him throughout the movie. It was very thoughtful writing, maybe a bit too thoughtful for most movie goers looking for a light comic book movie. :hrt: I think I'm in love. One of the best written and well directed 'villains' I've seen in a while for a movie in this genre. But of course he is; the director was the best Iago.

[wiegeabo]

Loki was absolutely perfect. He skirted just on the proper edge of scenery chewing when he flipped his ****. He had solid motivations, was conniving, and only needed just a little more mischievousness (probably another cut scene when they were children).

[Carnage27]

Yea, Loki was definitely great...

and it looks as if he'll be the villain of The Avengers. Or at least one of them, which will be great.

[SuperFerret]

Pfft... Gilbert Gottfried was the best Iago. :o

wxlhyX-4qKI

[trustyside-kick]

Loki was the best thing about the movie. Loved it.

[Byrd Man]

Please.

Hawkeye FTW. I had a mini geekgasm when he passed up the guns for that compound bow. :awesome:

[twylight]

Please.

Hawkeye FTW. I had a mini geekgasm when he passed up the guns for that compound bow. :awesome:

I love your avatar. :yay:

[Shlee]

Thor was so goooooooooooood.

Also, hi.

[Spike_x1]

'Sup.

[twylight]

Hi.

[Hound55]

http://dague.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/welcome-to-the-world-of-tomorrow.jpeg

[SuperFerret]

Good evening.

[Rain Dog]

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/forhashtagunaltered.jpg

meh.

[Spike_x1]

At least he's got hairy shoulders. That's something.

I guess.

[wiegeabo]

Still looks much approved over the last movie he was in.

[Carnage27]

I think it looks great. And I don't think that's going to be the actual mask. looks more like a muzzle to me.

[Spike_x1]

To stop him from biting people.

[wiegeabo]

Breaking a guy's spine over your knee is just fine. But biting?

...that's just wrong.

[Batman]

I think it looks great. And I don't think that's going to be the actual mask. looks more like a muzzle to me.

I don't think it's a muzzle, since a muzzle doesn't have multiple tubes coming out of it leading into a storage device. Usually speaking, anyway. I'm going to put my money on it being the actual look, given that the first reveals for this kind of stuff usually aren't temporary costumes (TDK's was of Batman's new suit and The Joker in close-up, Begins' was the Batsuit and Batmobile, ect).

The mask has grown on me since I saw it this morning, but my initial reaction wasn't positive. I will say that it at least incorporates an interesting aesthetic change, in that his Venom seems to be stored inside the mask, which seems sleeker than his usual wrist-device output. I just wish the mask itself weren't so complicated looking, it's the front tubes that keep throwing me off. It's like he has cartoonish teeth or something.

[Shlee]

So you guys should come chat with me? And maybe listen to me sing in my Ventrilo? Because you can.

Hostname/IP: vent111.light-speed.com
Port: 4344
Server password: amazingshlee

[SuperFerret]

Perhaps I shall join.

[wiegeabo]

I didn't expect to see MB on the crazy news covered by one of the net shows I watch, but I guess I should have.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2rrm1pv.jpg

[Batman]

The joke's on them. This is only my fifth offense for related incidents in the past month.

[Batman]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/2011-05-31-dc-comics-reinvents_n.htm

So... apparently DC is doing a major revamp of most of their characters.

Thoughts?

[Byrd Man]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/2011-05-31-dc-comics-reinvents_n.htm

So... apparently DC is doing a major revamp of most of their characters.

Thoughts?

Cool deal, I guess. Some characters need it, but others don't. I seen in another thread that it's going to be a soft reboot, anyways. I assume the Bat-family will remain intact because the editorial staff at DC is scared ****less of Morrison.

[SenseiofCheese]

I'm all for it. Seriously, I am a massive fan of all these characters but I've had trouble giving two ****s about any of them for a long time. Superman has been bad for a while, no one aside from Gail Simone knows what the hell to do with Wonder Woman, and I stopped reading Batman when I found out about the whole Batman, Inc nonsense.

Likewise, although I dug the multi-color Corps thing in Green Lantern at first, they've gone way overboard with it.

What I'd miss the most about a 'reboot' is Dick Grayson's history as Nightwing as well as Wally West. Two characters who, arguably, are one of few ever allowed to grow and evolve. But like I said, I'm for it, and once the reboot happens I will be faced with a problem I haven't had to deal with for a long time; making sure not to buy too many comics.

[Carnage27]

I think the reboot is a great idea. I've only gotten into comics the last 5 years, and there's just so much from the past I only know so much about. I'd love to get a fresh start on them, and it looks like it get that for DC and TMNT.

[Byrd Man]

I
What I'd miss the most about a 'reboot' is Dick Grayson's history as Nightwing as well as Wally West. Two characters who, arguably, are one of few ever allowed to grow and evolve.

Don't forget about Roy Harper. He went from junkie sidekick, to a halfway decent character, to a...one-armed, pill popping cat-thrower....


.....Yeah. Never mind.

[wiegeabo]

I like the idea of Batman Inc.

Not the actual series so much. Morrison is so hit and miss when it comes to writing superhero books. And he loves the DC Silver Age way too much.

But Dick as the Gotham bat, and Bruce building a bat-network around the world I like.

[SenseiofCheese]

I'm just not a fan of what he's done with Bats at all. I respect what he's trying to do, but the whole thing just feels so completely not Batman to me, if that makes sense.

[Batman]

Honestly, I'm not a fan of rebooting. I won't lie and say that Superman and Wonder Woman haven't been terrible, but I generally liked what Johns had done with The Flash and Green Lantern, Brightest Day renewed my interest in characters like Aquaman and Martian Manhunter, and with Morrison's weird Batman take there was also Scott Snyder's great run on Detective Comics to balance it out.

It just seems incredibly lazy and foolish to just decide "Hey, we're gonna reboot everything!!!1" rather than just hire new writers to improve the quality of what already existed. It's not like the continuity was incredibly muddled to the point that a reboot was a requirement - Blackest Night, Brightest Day, Flashpoint, they all seem to be very straightforward and easy to follow. And the state of each character was similarly easy to explain, whether or not it was particularly good. All of it could have been solved with a switch in creative teams, and instead, it seems like they're just saying "Well, screw it, we'd rather have new readers than keep the old ones. Dump everything and let's start again."

Honestly, they should have taken a cue from Marvel and made their "Earth One" line more of a straightforward version of the Ultimate Marvel universe instead of a bunch of one-shots that JMS can write rather terribly. Then you could have had these new versions of characters and still kept the old ones for people who didn't want to see this drastic of a change.

EDIT: I will say that there are some good things to come out of the reboot. Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League has been my dream creative team on that book for years, and it seems like Morrison is finally getting to go to a character he's suited to write with Superman. Gail Simone is apparently being scrapped on BoP, which sucks hard, but Johns is also getting to stay on GL. Depending on what happens with Batman, I'll definitely stay tuned.

Plus, I have to admit, I like this teaser image. Tempted to use it for UDC...

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy98/DCMarvelRPG2/fulljla.jpg

[wiegeabo]

Well, I have been enjoying Superman and Wonder Woman for the most part.

I really don't see the point of a reboot either. If they want to renumber stuff, fine I guess. (Sucks if we won't see Action or Batman 1000) Although, instead of renumbering, they could just plaster a big logo on the cover of every book saying "The new DC Universe starts NOW!!!". Or something to let readers know that it's safe to jump in, even though the number is high, and get them to stop being so scared of high issue numbers.

I think Linkara said it best towards the end of his Ultimatum #5 (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/31138-ultimatum-5)review. With today's access to the internet, and information on sites like wikipedia, there's no need to feel overwhelmed by decades of history for a character. They're nicely compressed in these articles, so curious readers can catch up that way (and may get interested in reading some of those old stories). I also think companies could be doing a better job of filling in, or at least referencing, old stuff in current issues (someone needs to get control of Morrison, because his gone insane using Silver Age stuff and only providing convoluted explanations for what they are).

[twylight]

Soooo many mixed feelings.

Frankly, I don't care about the reboot and how it applies to the 'big names' but I'm upset with how it's going to effect the other characters and the teams. BoP had rough patches but had solid character dynamics. Babs, Huntress and BC all evolved amazingly in that story, and Zinda was a fun add. I loved the Teen Titan history (for the most part).. the one thing I hope IS changed is Starfire/Nightwing :p ;) The JSA has been a solid title in my mind for a while now, and it's really grown into one of the titles I most enjoy, they've trained up a lot of the younger next gen heroes and in some cases it's been the only place where those characters are highlighted and allowed to develop. In my head it's comparable to the Uncanny X-Men title as it was a few years back.

I'm also a fan of the super old comics (I collect LoSH and All-Star Squadron) LoSH won't be effected although i'd like to see it rebooted as well... but All-Star Squadron. :csad: I really enjoyed the history in that title when put next to the JSA and JLA.

But overall I'm disappointed. I know why they're doing it, for the new readers, but I hate loosing all the history... I agree, it feels very lazy to me. The history is one of the reasons I enjoy DC Comics so much. I will however probably start buying some comics again just to keep up since they're wiping my timeline away...I wonder what the panels at comic con will be like.. oh lordy.

[Batman]

I really don't see the point of a reboot either. If they want to renumber stuff, fine I guess. (Sucks if we won't see Action or Batman 1000) Although, instead of renumbering, they could just plaster a big logo on the cover of every book saying "The new DC Universe starts NOW!!!". Or something to let readers know that it's safe to jump in, even though the number is high, and get them to stop being so scared of high issue numbers.

I think Linkara said it best towards the end of his Ultimatum #5 (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/31138-ultimatum-5)review. With today's access to the internet, and information on sites like wikipedia, there's no need to feel overwhelmed by decades of history for a character. They're nicely compressed in these articles, so curious readers can catch up that way (and may get interested in reading some of those old stories). I also think companies could be doing a better job of filling in, or at least referencing, old stuff in current issues (someone needs to get control of Morrison, because his gone insane using Silver Age stuff and only providing convoluted explanations for what they are).

Yeah, I agree with Linkara. The fact of the matter is, a reboot is usually warranted if things have gotten so bad that each character has reached X-Men levels of continuity fluctuation - that's the main reason that the Ultimate Marvel Universe was created. But with DC, they haven't reached that level of confusion, people just aren't satisfied with the status quo. That's it, that's all it was, and it could have easily been fixed by bringing in competent writers to maintain a coherent flow and lead each character out of their situation into a new one. We know the basics of what have happened with Superman. New Krypton happened, it was destroyed, and now he's taking a walk across America to "reconnect with humanity" or whatever. Batman came back from a dip through time and started Batman, Inc. Wonder Woman's history has been altered and she's trying to discover who she once was. And so on, and so forth. I could do just as simple of a summary with Flash, Green Lantern, Birds of Prey, and any of the Brightest Day characters and their current scenarios.

Rebooting everything just feels like a cheap way of cutting corners and taking the easy way out of fixing evident problems that editorial should have been ontop of in the first place. Instead, by rebooting, they're just making things more of a mess. It's going to be absolute hell for people who dropped titles to pick them back up again and follow what's been going on, because there's this jarring gap between what the current timeline is and what'll happen in September. It's freaking lazy writing and shows that character progression could well and truly die in this century.

[wiegeabo]

I'll give the new titles a shot. Probably at least a few issues. But at this moment, I don't have much desire to read the new stuff.

And since I don't read Marvel... :dry:

[wiegeabo]

Also, what's the over/under on how long before Wonder Woman and Superman go back to their classic costumes?

[SenseiofCheese]

Man, I'm really in the minority here. Like I say, I'll miss certain things, but all in all I'm excited as hell for this. It's a new age. I mean, they're making their entire publishing operation digital. New age of comics for sure.

The old stories will still exist. If I want to read about good ol' Nightwing I have 150+ issues of him to enjoy. But as someone looking in from the outside, like the much sought after 'new reader', things like Batman RIP, Batman Inc and The Return of Bruce Wayne are ****ing incredibly off-putting for someone who just wants to read new stories about Batman doing his thing.

Likewise, if anyone goes to see the GL movie and wants to read some Green Lantern adventures, he's be hard pressed to find a story that does not require him to have knowledge of the past years of continuity, information which he would in turn have to know about Zero Hour to fully understand. I'm not saying he'd need to READ all of it, but he'd have to look it up, and no matter how easy it is to look that stuff up online, it's still a hassle for someone who just wanted to pop into his local CBS and grab the latest GL adventure.

I get how you guys feel, that all this continuity is on it's way out it seems. But, to me, by and large, this is good. It's like how whenever a new RPG starts up that's Ultimate-this, or All-Star-that. New players flock to it because it's fresh, new, and doesn't require you to read a million pages of wiki-articles on what some other people did with a character you just want to pick up and have fun with.

[Batman]

Also, what's the over/under on how long before Wonder Woman and Superman go back to their classic costumes?

I don't really mind Superman's new costume from what I can see of it. People have been complaining about those damn undies for decades, and now we have a suit without them. I wouldn't mind that lasting awhile, maybe the next three or four years until he goes back to his classic costume. My only issue is the fact that his collar makes it harder for Clark to conceal his identity under his street clothes... I can't see the shirt-rip really working without looking weird.

Wonder Woman, I kind of hope goes back to her classic look sooner. I wouldn't mind if she kept the pants because, let's face it, the star spangled briefs did more harm to her credibility than good. But I honestly can't stand that thin-as-hell tiara that looks like a Christmas ornament, and like many have pointed out, she's got too many W's.

[wiegeabo]

And in ten years, when they've built up all the new continuity, they'll have the same problem all over again. Rebooting is nothing but a stop gap.


And, no matter what they say, companies like DC and Marvel don't make their money off of comic books. They make money off of toys and movies/tv. DC is a multi-billion dollar company, but only sells a few hundred thousand books, to put it in perspective. So getting new readers on board isn't going to do much, unless they somehow start selling millions of books like they did in the 90's (most of which was due to the speculation bubble of the time).

So, rather than rebooting, if they were really serious about getting new readers involved, they'd stop writing books for trades (which is how it feels now), and start writing stories that are self-contained to a single issue or two. One of the best Batman stories I've read recently was a self-contained Batman Confidential that had Bruce be all out detective on a single case. It was awesome.

They'd also be working on getting children reading comics and growing up with the characters. Start reading programs with child friendly comics.

They're going digital, which is a huge step in the right direction, especially since it's so much cheaper. I think it'll also put good pressure on comic book stores to be more relevant. Stop being scary geek-only stores, and start catering to the public. Get more people in your shop and interested in buying comics and reading good stories. A lot of shops are going to have to start diversifying into more hobby shop type places if they want to stay in business.


Yeah, I ranted, but I think rebooting is just treating the symptom, rather than curing the cause. It'll get some people excited, but it'll also alienate people who put time and money into the old stories. There's a reason tv shows don't reboot, and just end. I've invested a lot of time reading all this character development. I don't want to read all that development all over again. Been there, done that. If it's getting to that point, either just end the stories/books, or do what they did in Gotham and replace characters. Like MB says, take it in a new creative direction.

[wiegeabo]

I don't really mind Superman's new costume from what I can see of it. People have been complaining about those damn undies for decades, and now we have a suit without them. I wouldn't mind that lasting awhile, maybe the next three or four years until he goes back to his classic costume. My only issue is the fact that his collar makes it harder for Clark to conceal his identity under his street clothes... I can't see the shirt-rip really working without looking weird.

Wonder Woman, I kind of hope goes back to her classic look sooner. I wouldn't mind if she kept the pants because, let's face it, the star spangled briefs did more harm to her credibility than good. But I honestly can't stand that thin-as-hell tiara that looks like a Christmas ornament, and like many have pointed out, she's got too many W's.

WW's doesn't bother me too much. The top looks wrong, but it could just be badly drawn in the pic. Yeah, too many W's. The pants don't bother me. I actually like he current costume under JMS.

I've never liked Superman costumes without the trunks. It just doesn't feel like Superman. Just a blue bodysuit makes him look too dark somehow. And Superman should feel bright.

Yeah, the high collar makes no sense either.

[trustyside-kick]

It's funny how comparable the pros and cons are with this compared to us finally deciding to Reboot the DC RPG months back.

[wiegeabo]

Just another example of DC stealing from us again.

Damn you Byrd! It's all your rebooting ass' fault! :argh:

[trustyside-kick]

Am I the only one disliking Flash's new mask? Too much like the one in the DCUO Future version but in terms of design.

[trustyside-kick]

And the shoulders on Hal are un-needed too.

[Batman]

The only one that really irks me is Cyborg. Headpiece is way too bulky and the body looks like something out of a bad Manga.

[trustyside-kick]

Aside from the un-needed engravings on Flash's mask and Hal's shoulders I'm loving the designs of the characters. Yea, Cyborg's chin is kinda big on that but doesn't bug me as much because he is partially mechanical. Batman's look is more techy-armory than usual but it is practical and makes sense--I especially love the gloves--so I'm fine with it.

[Batman]

I'm still waiting to see a full-body shot of the new Batsuit, but I dig what I can see. It's just bizarre that they're already giving him a new look when such a big deal was made not even a year ago about that trunkless redesign for Inc. With Wonder Woman, at least, you have a general consensus that what they designed for her could use some improvements. But Batman's outfit was pretty much acceptable. They even brought back the yellow oval for it, and now it's gone.

No one respects the oval, dammit. :csad: :ybat:

[trustyside-kick]

If you ask me they made the costumes to be more practical for translation to movie costumes. :awesome:

[Shlee]

You butt holes need to come and hang out in ventrilo with me again like we used to!

[SenseiofCheese]

Yes, join us in Ventrilo. We have böllur.

[Byrd Man]

Yes, join us in Ventrilo. We have böllur.

No. Nothing can never top your Ninja Rap, so why even attempt when I know I'll be disappointed. :csad:

[SenseiofCheese]

That's Teenage Mutant TurtleNinja Rap, thank you very much.

[wiegeabo]

Good god.

With all these X-Men tv spots, they might as well just put the whole movie on the tv right now.

[SenseiofCheese]

It's ssssssssssssssso good. In my opinion it's up there as one of the best comic book movies ever. I'd say it's on par with X2, almost

[Byrd Man]

It's ssssssssssssssso good. In my opinion it's up there as one of the best comic book movies ever. I'd say it's on par with X2, almost

Yeah, I've been reading good things about it in reviews. I was a bit on the fence about going to see it, but the reviews cinched it for me.

[wiegeabo]

I'm still on the fence. I don't know why, but nothing I've seen is doing anything for me.

[Byrd Man]

One thing that irks me a bit is the fact that the students aren't the traditional first class. Other than Beast, I couldn't care less about the other students in the movie.

[SenseiofCheese]

I'm not a big X-Men fan, but there you'd be hard pressed to find anything in this movie that doesn't work perfectly. The characters, the actors, the action sequences, the relationships.....God, it's just such a great comic book movie.

And, to me, Michael Fassbender's Magneto is up there in terms of iconic comic book character portrayals, with McAvoy's Xavier just a few steps behind.

[Byrd Man]

I'm not a big X-Men fan, but there you'd be hard pressed to find anything in this movie that doesn't work perfectly. The characters, the actors, the action sequences, the relationships.....God, it's just such a great comic book movie.

And, to me, Michael Fassbender's Magneto is up there in terms of iconic comic book character portrayals, with McAvoy's Xavier just a few steps behind.

I just want to know how the **** Iceland is getting this **** earlier than America. :cmad:

[SenseiofCheese]

First Thor, now X-Men.

Welcome to the new world order, *****.

[Byrd Man]

First Thor, now X-Men.

Welcome to the new world order, *****.

I've had it up to here with Iceland getting all the new movies first. :cmad:

Your country isn't filled with ice, so it was named on a lie. So take your Krona, go do some Glima, and **** off!

[SenseiofCheese]

Easy, now. We wouldn't want another volcano erupting out of the blue, now would we? :cmad:

[wiegeabo]

I just want to know how the **** Iceland is getting this **** earlier than America. :cmad:

Damn foreigners get Duke Nukem early too. :cmad:

[Byrd Man]

Easy, now. We wouldn't want another volcano erupting out of the blue, now would we? :cmad:

I know how big of a shock Mt. Jkastiuoytrfgvbhjkmmjhgfdesrtyghjukijhgtf erupting was, I don't know how you'd deal with another one.

Damn foreigners get Duke Nukem early too. :cmad:

Yeah, I'd be upset....if we were back in 1998.

[Rain Dog]

I'm still on the fence. I don't know why, but nothing I've seen is doing anything for me.

I'm with you on this. Part of me wants to see this because I like Vaughn and the reviews have been good. The other part of me remembers X3 and Wolverine.:cmad:

[wiegeabo]

I still haven't seen Wolverine.

[trustyside-kick]

I still haven't seen Wolverine.

Don't.

Wolverine...never happened. :awesome:

That's the only way I can use that movie in a sentence and smile.

[Batman]

New DC redesigns:

Wonder Woman (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/wwv2_cv1.jpg

Okay, the design looks MUCH better here. Cliff Chiang is the artist doing the new Wonder Woman series, so it's likely that she'll look like that throughout the duration of the series. If so, I can definitely learn to love it. And I've always been a fan of Azzarello's work, so I'm interested to see how he'll write the new Diana.

The Flash (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/flsv3_cv1.jpg
Okay, pretty much the same. But Manupal's pencils definitely make the mask less jarring than in Jim Lee's design. Seems like the engravings/decal energize whenever Flash is in full-on speedster mode. Pretty cool. The only thing I'm worried about is that Francis Manupal is also tackling writer duties - and if Tony Daniel and David Finch are any indication, that could potentially be bland to bad. We'll see.

Aquaman (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/aqm_cv1.jpg
Pretty much looks the same. I'll give credit to the cover itself, it looks scary. And I have complete and utter faith in both Johns and Reis' abilities to convincingly portray Aquaman in a grand light that he's been lacking for years. Just surprised they didn't decide to take more of a liberty with his look - I suppose in the long run, it's a good thing.

Firestorm

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/firestorm_cv1.jpg
Never been a huge Firestorm fan, so I doubt I'll be checking this out. I will say that the designs for Ronnie and Jason remind me alot of that Red/Blue Superman phase, only with yellow and red. The only thing that really annoys me is that Gail Simone apparently got taken off of Birds of Prey to do this series, and only as a co-writer to Ethan Van Sciver. Not cool, DC. :cmad:

Green Arrow

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/ga_cv1.jpg
I like it, but it kind of reminds me too much of Smallville's piss poor iteration of Ollie more than it excites me for a new interpretation. JT Krul was already doing the series beforehand, and I didn't have much interest in what he was doing, so I'll have to see what the new timeline indicates for Ollie's situation.

Justice League International

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/jlifinalcover1.jpg
Again, Batman looks awesome. But I'm not really liking Booster's new look. The rest look okay, though I'm not entirely sure who the woman in black is supposed to be. Surely that's not Black Canary. And of all the people they could have redesigned, Guy Gardner is the same? I guess some looks never run out of style. I can see Guy refusing to switch up his look in the comics, so I guess it fits. Dan Jurgens is a decent writer, especially when he's writing Booster, so I'll see where it goes.

Mr. Terrific

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/mr_terr_cv1.jpg
Badass. He finally looks more like a superhero than a biker. Nothing more to say, really. But I'll wait for the previews to judge whether it's worth checking out.

Captain Atom

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/catom_cv1.jpg
Never been a huge fan of Atom, either, but he looks fine. Nothing to really judge going off of this picture, however.

And finally, Hawkman

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/svghkman_cv1.jpg
...

That's gonna take some getting used to.

Granted, I won't check out the series because I absolutely hate Tony Daniel's hit-or-miss level of writing, but they took a design that may have already been too complicated and made it look 10 times as much. I appreciate the idea that Carter is a fierce individual, but damn. He looks like he'll accidentally cut anyone that stands next to him too closely.

[wiegeabo]

Yeah, I'd be upset....if we were back in 1998.

Immaterial!!!


Remember, it's "America, **** YEAH!!!" not Europe.

[wiegeabo]

New DC redesigns:

Wonder Woman (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/wwv2_cv1.jpg

Okay, the design looks MUCH better here. Cliff Chiang is the artist doing the new Wonder Woman series, so it's likely that she'll look like that throughout the duration of the series. If so, I can definitely learn to love it. And I've always been a fan of Azzarello's work, so I'm interested to see how he'll write the new Diana.

The Flash (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/flsv3_cv1.jpg
Okay, pretty much the same. But Manupal's pencils definitely make the mask less jarring than in Jim Lee's design. Seems like the engravings/decal energize whenever Flash is in full-on speedster mode. Pretty cool. The only thing I'm worried about is that Francis Manupal is also tackling writer duties - and if Tony Daniel and David Finch are any indication, that could potentially be bland to bad. We'll see.

Aquaman (actual series)

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/aqm_cv1.jpg
Pretty much looks the same. I'll give credit to the cover itself, it looks scary. And I have complete and utter faith in both Johns and Reis' abilities to convincingly portray Aquaman in a grand light that he's been lacking for years. Just surprised they didn't decide to take more of a liberty with his look - I suppose in the long run, it's a good thing.

Firestorm

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/firestorm_cv1.jpg
Never been a huge Firestorm fan, so I doubt I'll be checking this out. I will say that the designs for Ronnie and Jason remind me alot of that Red/Blue Superman phase, only with yellow and red. The only thing that really annoys me is that Gail Simone apparently got taken off of Birds of Prey to do this series, and only as a co-writer to Ethan Van Sciver. Not cool, DC. :cmad:

Green Arrow

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/ga_cv1.jpg
I like it, but it kind of reminds me too much of Smallville's piss poor iteration of Ollie more than it excites me for a new interpretation. JT Krul was already doing the series beforehand, and I didn't have much interest in what he was doing, so I'll have to see what the new timeline indicates for Ollie's situation.

Justice League International

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/jlifinalcover1.jpg
Again, Batman looks awesome. But I'm not really liking Booster's new look. The rest look okay, though I'm not entirely sure who the woman in black is supposed to be. Surely that's not Black Canary. And of all the people they could have redesigned, Guy Gardner is the same? I guess some looks never run out of style. I can see Guy refusing to switch up his look in the comics, so I guess it fits. Dan Jurgens is a decent writer, especially when he's writing Booster, so I'll see where it goes.

Mr. Terrific

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/mr_terr_cv1.jpg
Badass. He finally looks more like a superhero than a biker. Nothing more to say, really. But I'll wait for the previews to judge whether it's worth checking out.

Captain Atom

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/catom_cv1.jpg
Never been a huge fan of Atom, either, but he looks fine. Nothing to really judge going off of this picture, however.

And finally, Hawkman

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/06/svghkman_cv1.jpg
...

That's gonna take some getting used to.

Granted, I won't check out the series because I absolutely hate Tony Daniel's hit-or-miss level of writing, but they took a design that may have already been too complicated and made it look 10 times as much. I appreciate the idea that Carter is a fierce individual, but damn. He looks like he'll accidentally cut anyone that stands next to him too closely.


Wonder Woman is...meh. Costume could be better. I don't much like that type of artwork.

Flash, Aquaman, GA, and JLI look fine.

Firestorm is interesting.

Terrific is bleh.

Captain Atom is...is...um...

Hawkman looks threatening as hell, but way too busy. That'll get simplified a ton by artists in the stories.

[Carnage27]

I still haven't seen Wolverine.

Keep it that way.

Which brings me to one of the biggest reasons I'm so excited to see X-Men tomorrow: Wolverine ISN'T in it!:awesome:

Wolverine has always been one of my least favorite X-Men, and the way they made him the focus of the original movies made my hatred for him even worse. And now I get a Wolverine free event? Spectacular.

[Rain Dog]

Keep it that way.

Which brings me to one of the biggest reasons I'm so excited to see X-Men tomorrow: Wolverine ISN'T in it!:awesome:

Wolverine has always been one of my least favorite X-Men, and the way they made him the focus of the original movies made my hatred for him even worse. And now I get a Wolverine free event? Spectacular.

While I don't hate him, I am glad the focus will be taken away from him.

Also, [SPOILER!] Rumor has it Wolverine is in it, albeit in a couple-seconds-cameo.

[wiegeabo]

I don't get the wolverine hate. Just like I don't get the Gambit hate.

I get the burn out, for sure. When Marvel finds someone if slightly popular, they tend to run them into the ground. Gambit in the 90's. Wolverine is on the burn out side of being there, and Deadpool is well on his way.

[Carnage27]

While I don't hate him, I am glad the focus will be taken away from him.

Also, [SPOILER!] Rumor has it Wolverine is in it, albeit in a couple-seconds-cameo.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/Imjacks/noooooooo.jpg?t=1241926308

Nah, I can deal with a cameo. It's not Hugh Jackman, is it?

I don't get the wolverine hate. Just like I don't get the Gambit hate.

I get the burn out, for sure. When Marvel finds someone if slightly popular, they tend to run them into the ground. Gambit in the 90's. Wolverine is on the burn out side of being there, and Deadpool is well on his way.

Meh, I just never found Wolverine to be an interesting character.

Never had a problem with Gambit, though.

[Rain Dog]

Nah, I can deal with a cameo. It's not Hugh Jackman, is it?



It is.

[wiegeabo]

It is.


Makes sense

[Batman]

Honestly, Wolverine's my favorite X-Men character period. But even I was kind of glad to see a movie that wasn't focused on him. I find the Xavier/Magneto rivalry quite compelling and given that it's the focus of First Class, I'm pretty curious to see it.

[Supergirl]

One thing that irks me a bit is the fact that the students aren't the traditional first class. Other than Beast, I couldn't care less about the other students in the movie.
**** FIRST CLASS. The first class is Jean, Bobby, Scott, Hank and Warren. That'd be like making a Teen Titans: Year One movie but having it be Aqualad, Risk, Argent, Joto and Prysm.

[Carnage27]

Meh, I don't get the freak out about having the first class not be the actual first class.

If it's a good movie, does it really matter?

[Batman]

Meh, I don't get the freak out about having the first class not be the actual first class.

If it's a good movie, does it really matter?

Don't try speaking logically to Cori.

I've been trying that for years. :o

[Byrd Man]

**** FIRST CLASS. The first class is Jean, Bobby, Scott, Hank and Warren. That'd be like making a Teen Titans: Year One movie but having it be Aqualad, Risk, Argent, Joto and Prysm.

I see your point.

Meh, I don't get the freak out about having the first class not be the actual first class.

If it's a good movie, does it really matter?

And yours.

We have the comics first class, and the movie first class. With all the ****ing up of the different mutants in the other four films, I'd say a non-traditional first class is the lesser evil.

[wiegeabo]

Meh, I don't get the freak out about having the first class not be the actual first class.

If it's a good movie, does it really matter?

Seconded.

If it was good, I'd go see that Teen Titans movie. I'd wonder why the hell that was their lineup when it was announced.

I don't care if the studios don't cater to comic fans, as long as it's a good story. If it's good, fills the seats, and maybe pumps up book sales by bringing in new readers, go for it. If a fanboy wants to see their favorite comic, they can go read it again.

That settles it. I'm going to see this just to spite SG! :p

[Supergirl]

Meh, I don't get the freak out about having the first class not be the actual first class.

If it's a good movie, does it really matter?
Because I feel misled by the title. I loved the FC comics, and Scott and Bobby are two of my favorite Marvel characters, let alone X-Men. I feel let down that we don't get a first class movie focusing on the real first class. :(

[Carnage27]

Seconded.

If it was good, I'd go see that Teen Titans movie. I'd wonder why the hell that was their lineup when it was announced.

I don't care if the studios don't cater to comic fans, as long as it's a good story. If it's good, fills the seats, and maybe pumps up book sales by bringing in new readers, go for it. If a fanboy wants to see their favorite comic, they can go read it again.

Plus it gives some screen time to characters I never figured I'd see. I mean Banshee? Come on. That's AWESOME.

Because I feel misled by the title. I loved the FC comics, and Scott and Bobby are two of my favorite Marvel characters, let alone X-Men. I feel let down that we don't get a first class movie focusing on the real first class. :(

I get that, and I'd love to see those characters shown again. But I'm not going to forgo seeing this because they aren't in it, especially since it sounds like it's going to be great.

[wiegeabo]

It's simple:

Comic continuity


Movie continuity


There you go. Consider it an Elseworlds or What If, if you wish. Smallville was an Elseworlds, Batman Begins was an Elseworlds, Superman Returns was a ****up Elseworlds.

[SuperFerret]

This is why 10% of people are liars.

[Batman]

There you go. Consider it an Elseworlds or What If, if you wish. Superman Returns was an Elseworlds, Batman Begins was an Elseworlds, Smallville was a ****up Elseworlds.

Fixed.

[wiegeabo]

Nonono. You see, Smallville at least had entertaining moments and a kick ass Lois.

[wiegeabo]

And now for something completely different...

Bow to your one true god and his incomparable acting ability!

tgCkmUS1IYI

[Batman]

But that's not Tommy Wiseau! :cmad: