OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull - Part 6/6/44

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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is 335083

[The Overlord]

Who should play the Red Skull? Also should the Skull wear a mask or just be deformed?

[BizarroAids]

That reflection really has me excited for the movie version of Skull. I love the scarring look we got on the concept art, hopefully we get a little of that in the final design. For a movie Skull, I wouldn't mind ears or without ears. Just as long as he doesn't have lips. :yay:

[Parker Wayne]

This is a continuation thread, the old thread is 335083

:cmad:

[Whiskey Tango]

:cmad:

http://i51.tinypic.com/5d9ie.jpg

[Lunar_Wolf]

Always scared me as a kid.

[kedrell]

That reflection really has me excited for the movie version of Skull. I love the scarring look we got on the concept art, hopefully we get a little of that in the final design. For a movie Skull, I wouldn't mind ears or without ears. Just as long as he doesn't have lips. :yay:

I disagree there. I think he'll look pretty stupid if he's lip-less.

[The Caped Knight]

http://i51.tinypic.com/5d9ie.jpg

lol

[Silvermoth]

:cmad:

http://i51.tinypic.com/5d9ie.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7526/14156394.jpg

[Avengers-Report]

How has no one yet to see a picture of him as the Red Skull? I still remember the footage from Comic-Con and when he walked in everyone was expecting to see a Red Skull haha.

[BigThor]

How has no one yet to see a picture of him as the Red Skull? I still remember the footage from Comic-Con and when he walked in everyone was expecting to see a Red Skull haha.

Did he look cool, and are there any pics?

[MikeFrost]

The only glimpse we got from his as the Skull was an official pic of Cap where he's fighting a guy shrouded in bright white smoke. You can tell it's the Skull but you can't really get to see how he looks...

[Xtroid]

Somebody in the previous thread said...

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/ZZ3923E026-550x412.jpgNo ears please The Red Skull doesn't have ears in the comics?

So the guy is deaf? And why doesn't he have lips? How is he able to form words? Man, I feel sorry for this Nazi bastard. :(

[Parker Wayne]

http://i51.tinypic.com/5d9ie.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/fatzscheflo/samuel-l-jackson-black-snake-moan-stare.gif

[WillardNation]

I lol'd

[kedrell]

Somebody in the previous thread said...

The Red Skull doesn't have ears in the comics?

So the guy is deaf? And why doesn't he have lips? How is he able to form words? Man, I feel sorry for this Nazi bastard. :(

He does have lips in the comics. Also, he has inner ears like everyone but not the outer/cartilage part. So he can still hear(although I doubt he has great hearing due to that).

[Excelsior.]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/fatzscheflo/samuel-l-jackson-black-snake-moan-stare.gif

Sam for old man Logan.

[Iron_Stark]

Who should play the Red Skull? Also should the Skull wear a mask or just be deformed?

Wait, what?

[MikeFrost]

The moderators copied the first post on the old thread. When it was made, they still didn't had announced Hugo Weaving.

[DarthDaveBanner]

If Red Skull has no ears this could well be the second Marvel movie in which Evans gets to say "Where are your ears?"

Awesome!

[kedrell]

Nice observation. And if he doesn't say that in the film, I've no doubt someone will take advantage of it in the caption thread.

[Enlil]

NEW PICTURE HERE:
http://www.cinewebradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2036:nouvelle-photos-de-captain-america&catid=29:the-news&Itemid=41

[Figs]

Wow...really? They say it's a pic of the Red Skull, yet you can't see his face still. C'mon...

[MikeFrost]

It's still a shot of Hugo Weaving. It's before the face deformation.

[Spideyfan93]

All pictures released of him so far have been so damn ominous and mysterious. I am starting to think we won't actually see Red Skull in his true form until July 22nd lol.

[R_Hythlodeus]

I still don't like Hugo Weaving

[Excelsior.]

Why not?

[BigThor]

I like Hugo Weaving, he's gonna make a great Red Skull in my opinion.

[Rock Sexton]

I still don't like Hugo Weaving

Do you like Chris Evans though? If you do I'm going to be completely lost for words.

[BigThor]

I'm pretty alright with Chris Evans, I get a positive vibe from the pictures released so far.

[Galactus123]

New pic
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/bucky03.JPG

[Brian Braddock]

I still don't like Hugo Weaving

Opinions and taste are, of course, subjective but that doesnt mean that every once in a while you dont come across one that makes you scratch your head and go :wow:.

[Whiskey Tango]

I still don't like Hugo Weaving

http://i55.tinypic.com/2dklhxv.jpg

[Shadow Moses]

Sorry if this is old but I took this picture with my phone from the Ipad version of empire magazine

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv91/unparalleled/IMG_0056.jpg

[Shadow Moses]

double post..

[kedrell]

All pictures released of him so far have been so damn ominous and mysterious. I am starting to think we won't actually see Red Skull in his true form until July 22nd lol.

Oh I doubt that. This isn't like Two-Face in TDK or Whiplash's final armored suit.

I think we'll see him skulled up in the trailer. That will be when they choose to reveal it, I'm guessing.

[Silvermoth]

I hope Hugo speaks alot of German. I'm really hoping this film isn't a big dumb action blockbuster!

[BigThor]

Oh I doubt that. This isn't like Two-Face in TDK or Whiplash's final armored suit.

I think we'll see him skulled up in the trailer. That will be when they choose to reveal it, I'm guessing.

I sure hope not, it took FOREVERRR to see Harvey Dent as Two-Face in TDK.

[gdw]

Has this been posted yet?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AyBq6E_fUJI/TSu2wq_49hI/AAAAAAAAAJo/Px1-MKUPtKY/s1600/Red%2BSkull%2Bconcept%2BArt.jpg

http://captain-america--trailer.blogspot.com/

[Doctor Jones]

I still don't like Hugo Weaving

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee413/Jonesy50/babyface.jpg?t=1296960437

[Whiskey Tango]

Has this been posted yet?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AyBq6E_fUJI/TSu2wq_49hI/AAAAAAAAAJo/Px1-MKUPtKY/s1600/Red%2BSkull%2Bconcept%2BArt.jpg

http://captain-america--trailer.blogspot.com/

Yep.

[Silvermoth]

Remember how Hugo Weaving mentioned he will base the Skull's voice pattern on Werner Herzog? Well, while we're waiting for the Superbowl spot I thought some of you might find this funny.

It's Werner Herzog reading the classic children's book "Madeline"

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[kedrell]

I think Weaving has a deeper tone of voice over-all than Herzog.

[Rock Sexton]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2dklhxv.jpg

This seriously cracked me up.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Why not?

He was the worst actor in LotR (even worse than Tyler), gave a bland performance in VfV (I know, most of you liked his acting in that movie...I don't understand why), and don't get me started on Matrix. I honestly believe everybody involved in the production of that godaweful pos should be forever banned from Hollywood.

I simply have never seen one full second of good acting from Weaving. He is either boring and bland or over the top.

[Bren]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2dklhxv.jpg

This seriously cracked me up.

You know, I laughed as well....... But, that smile just freaks me out a bit too :woot:

[Grillz]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Red Skull looks great.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Perfect!

[ScottishFogg]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eWRwXtUOQ_w/TU9FyhjCtHI/AAAAAAAAAn0/QPz13qiLiIQ/s1600/Red%2BSKull.jpg

[donk70]

Not sure how they did it, but it's stoped on the exact same frame I stopped on. Hmmmm...

[redhawk23]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

I must Wobbly's Manip is pretty much perfect.
http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MK-Red-Skull-NEW.jpg

[WillardNation]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

:awesome::up:

[bullets]

They did an awesome job with Red Skull's look :up:

[The Caped Knight]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

Fantastic and down right accurate to the comics in every detail .

[LuisTX85]

Red Skull looks perfect!,Now we'll see how his character is played out.

[The Showstopper]

The look of Red Skull is perfect in my humble opinion, Weaving was a great choice for this role, cant wait to see more footage of him

[thewhyteman]

The look of Red Skull is perfect in my humble opinion, Weaving was a great choice for this role, cant wait to see more footage of him

Agree totally, he nails sinister so well.

[Darkness Falls]

hugo looks perfect as red skull

can't wait to see more footage :D

[Hellion]

I can't wait for the reveal now, I'm sure it will be one of the most memorable moments in the film...

...the look is perfect.

[Vile]

I'm dying to hear his voice!

[dark_knight08]

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

:unishr:Red Skull looks perfect in every detail.
I know Hugo Weaving is going to do awesome in this movie.

[CrypticOne]

Red Skull looks awesome. Can't wait to see him in full action.

[NinjaCarm]

If he ends up saying "...my brotthherrr..." I'm gonna flip out old school Captain America 1990 style... lol

http://www.cinetalk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/redskull1.jpg

[Vile]

If he ends up being italian...

[Tony Stark]

WOW! The look is perfect. I think this is going to be the unexpected hit of 2011. I'm not really even worried about it following Potter so closely, because the last few Potter films have not done as well in the States, and Captain America will probably do better domestically than internationally.

[The Wizard]

How did Red Skull's face become what it is in this film? I'm not too familiar with the character, but I read that he wears a "red skull" mask, and that isn't his actual face. Could someone explain?

[spanish39]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/evelz6/179689_1764848794763_1045435222_2026848_5827843_n. jpg

[Galactus123]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/evelz6/179689_1764848794763_1045435222_2026848_5827843_n. jpg
This is almost perfect. It should look a little more like skull but Im happy. It is great.

[darknight7]

This is almost perfect. It should look a little more like skull but Im happy. It is great.

I totally get what you're saying. It looks 100% accurate, but it also looks smooth and soft like leather or rubber. It should be kind of gritty and dry looking.

--dk7

[S.A.A.D.]

I hope that the Red Skull talk's in the trailer that is coming out in a few weeks.

[KRIM]

How did Red Skull's face become what it is in this film? I'm not too familiar with the character, but I read that he wears a "red skull" mask, and that isn't his actual face. Could someone explain?
I'd like to know too. From what I understood it's just a mask, albeit a lifelike one. The quick glimpse appears to be showing him taking off a human mask. Are they going for an organic disfigured look?

:huh:

[bubbadoom]

I am sure the Skull make-up is made of silicone, which is very flesh like, so maybe that's why it looks a little "soft" to some - but it does have to emote, so I am fine with that...

[BigThor]

WOW! The look is perfect. I think this is going to be the unexpected hit of 2011. I'm not really even worried about it following Potter so closely, because the last few Potter films have not done as well in the States, and Captain America will probably do better domestically than internationally.

Yeah, I think Cap will do very well domestically :cap:

[JamalYIgle]

This is almost perfect. It should look a little more like skull but Im happy. It is great.

Nope it's fine just the way it is.http://gordonandthewhale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/captainamerica16l.jpeg
http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/vcr/whitehouse.jpg

[Silvermoth]

I wonder what he's pulling off his face? It looks like a burlap balaclava. I hope we see the Skull's face for the majority of the movie.

[Savage]

It's his Hugo Weaving (or Johann Shmidt) mask. Which is pretty awesome.

[JAK®]

I wonder what he's pulling off his face? It looks like a burlap balaclava. I hope we see the Skull's face for the majority of the movie.
Apparently

he wears a mask of his old face. He is disfigured in a prologue scene where he steals the Cosmic Cube.

[Galactus123]

I'd like to know too. From what I understood it's just a mask, albeit a lifelike one. The quick glimpse appears to be showing him taking off a human mask. Are they going for an organic disfigured look?

:huh:
Maybe he uses somekind of poison gas that turn peoples faces like skull and kills them. Maybe he got that gas on his own face but he somehow survived. (sorry for my bad english)

Like this
http://www.comics101.com/archives/comics101/images/2004/jan28/dusttodust.jpg

[Brian Braddock]

That is one fantastic looking Red Skull in the teaser.

[wobbly]

How did Red Skull's face become what it is in this film? I'm not too familiar with the character, but I read that he wears a "red skull" mask, and that isn't his actual face. Could someone explain?

In the books he was originally a normal human who wore a Red Skull mask. Since the mid 80's he acquired a new body (a clone of Cap's no less) the face of which was soon disfigured by his own 'red dust of death' (see the Joker/Skull scan before) to resemble his old mask (the dust did have the effect of disfiguring the faces of its victims, much like the Joker's does).

For the movie they have gone straight to the disfigured look, with him wearing a human mask to hide it. As to how he gets that way, from the looks of it they may well be borrowing the one good idea the 90's film had: That the Skull was a recipient of an earlier form of the Super Solider treatment and it disfigured him.

Based on what I've seen in the online comic from the website, they do seem to be heading that way.

[PyroChamber]

Looking at the shot from the preview, and looking back that the promo pic of him holding the Cosmic Cube, you can actually see the red right around the eyes kind of implying that it's not his real face. I thought that was a nice touch.

I just hope that once he reveals how he really looks, the mask stays off.

[wobbly]

Apparently

he wears a mask of his old face. He is disfigured in a prologue scene where he steals the Cosmic Cube.

That might be the case, but the online comic suggests they may be going for the earlier attempt at the SS serum.

Erkine's words to Steve in the teaser would also have more meaning there as well, if his work had been used before and created a monster.

[Hurm...]

Apparently

he wears a mask of his old face. He is disfigured in a prologue scene where he steals the Cosmic Cube.That sounds like an awesome way to open a movie. :up:

[The Wizard]

What did Erkine say to Steve in the trailer?

[GhostPoet]

Looking at the shot from the preview, and looking back that the promo pic of him holding the Cosmic Cube, you can actually see the red right around the eyes kind of implying that it's not his real face. I thought that was a nice touch.

I just hope that once he reveals how he really looks, the mask stays off.

I'm not sure what's creepier...his skull face or a mask that still shows part of his muscle/skull undernearth. :)

[GhostPoet]

I have to say it...

The make-up work on Red Skull is so awesome it will MELT. YOUR. FACE OFF.

=P

[Spider-Vader]

Ooooh man. I can't freakin' wait to see Red Skull on the bigscreen. He could potentially be one of the best superhero movie villains thus far.

[kedrell]

What did Erkine say to Steve in the trailer?


"Whatever happens, stay who you are. Not just a soldier, but a good man."

[Spideyfan93]

^Already a great quote that will be remembered. That one line says so much!

[Rock Sexton]

Looking at the shot from the preview, and looking back that the promo pic of him holding the Cosmic Cube, you can actually see the red right around the eyes kind of implying that it's not his real face. I thought that was a nice touch.

I just hope that once he reveals how he really looks, the mask stays off.

Ya, I brought that up here in the Cap forums a while back, but nobody else really noticed. Cool little tweak they did with it.

[JAK®]

I wonder how Steve shows that he is such a good man? What made them choose him?

[kedrell]

I wonder how Steve shows that he is such a good man? What made them choose him?

I guess that is to be revealed.

[Spideyfan93]

He's going to be creepy as all hell! Knowing his face is a mask...

[craigdbfan]

^Already a great quote that will be remembered. That one line says so much!

It's a great line.

I wonder how Steve shows that he is such a good man? What made them choose him?

Just from the quick glimpse we got I can tell the story of pre serum Rogers is going to be just something else. Chris Evans was able to get my full sympathy in the trailer in seeing a rather frail, goofy looking kid with a look of determination and sadness but still having that earnest sense of will in his eye. Thats exactly what I needed to see.

I guess that is to be revealed.

Yup.

[Alchemyst]

It's a great line.



Just from the quick glimpse we got I can tell the story of pre serum Rogers is going to be just something else. Chris Evans was able to get my full sympathy in the trailer in seeing a rather frail, goofy looking kid with a look of determination and sadness but still having that earnest sense of will in his eye. Thats exactly what I needed to see.



Yup.

yeah the Evans' appearance as pre-serum Rogers gives him an even more humble look. It was visually impressive and the cgi or whatever used to give him that appearance is great. And also, if all signs point towards Red Skull being disfigured due to a bad reaction to the SSS, that will make him even greater as a villain, one super-soldier made to be a conqueror, the other was made as a sign of hope to aid others

[Spideyfan93]

Everyone's positivity is making me anxious!

IT NEEDS TO BE JULY 22ND...NOW! PLEASE! Argh!

[BigThor]

Ooooh man. I can't freakin' wait to see Red Skull on the bigscreen. He could potentially be one of the best superhero movie villains thus far.

I agree, but don't forget Loki because he looks to be a crowd pleaser as well.

They're both probably gonna rank up there with Joker (Heath Ledger) and Doc Ock (Alfred Molina).

[Rock Sexton]

I will say one thing .... until we see him talking and the facial movements while he's wearing the prosthetics, we really don't know how it's going to turn out. I always liked how they did Two-Face in DK, but obviously we're not going to be getting something like that here, probably due to cost reasons.

[Savage]

What do you mean? Like a meaty skull with no eyelids or lips?

If that's the case then I prefer the more faithful look they went for. A head disfigured to resemble a skull but isn't one. I am so crazy about this thing it's ridiculous. Right out of the books.

[Agent 194]

I've said this elsewhere but I kind of hope to see some artistic license and manipulation done with the Skull's face. I'd love to see the eyes with dark shadows at times and the crazed, maniacal, independent brows the way Jack Kirby drew at times.

[Rock Sexton]

What do you mean? Like a meaty skull with no eyelids or lips?

If that's the case then I prefer the more faithful look they went for. A head disfigured to resemble a skull but isn't one. I am so crazy about this thing it's ridiculous. Right out of the books.

I was more so meaning using a little CGI to enhance Weaving's already naturally skull'ish looking face.

We'll see though ... like I said I need to see Weaving actually talking with the thing.

[Hazelnut624]

i have a bad feeling Red Skull will end up being like dr. doom in the fantastic four movie. He wont take his mask off until the very end of the movie, and only have 20 min of screen time in full costume.

[MikeFrost]

Aslong as his character is actually faithful to the source material, I'd be OK with 20 minutes of screen time for good ol' Skully.

"Let's not fight, Susie"

[Silvermoth]

i have a bad feeling Red Skull will end up being like dr. doom in the fantastic four movie. He wont take his mask off until the very end of the movie, and only have 20 min of screen time in full costume.

I'm also worried about that. It would be such a missed opportunity if they only showed the Red Skull at the end. People can see Hugo Weaving in other films, they'll come to Captain America to see The Red Skull!

[henry_9305]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg
Red Skull looks great but this picture remind me of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat doing his toasty fatality.:awesome:

[BatFan88]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

[wobbly]

Red Skull reminds me of the Red Skull.

[BatFan88]

Its like a Power Ranger villian.

[wobbly]

Whatever.

[MikeFrost]

Such great memories! I can't help but to laugh at how horrible this movie is. It's so bad that it's good.

LmiFBfIZLzE

[captainrogers]

Its like a Power Ranger villian.

Most of the Batman's rougues gallery remind me of power rangers villains, myself. I still enjoy 'em.

[conan69]

Im guessing theyll use slight CGI to enhance Skulls facial features and movement.

I think it looks good, not sure what people are unhappy about.

[블라스]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

There is no point to people like you. Think about what you're doing.

[Hurm...]

Aslong as his character is actually faithful to the source material, I'd be OK with 20 minutes of screen time for good ol' Skully.

"Let's not fight, Susie"
Same here, whatever works best for the film.

[kedrell]

Its like a Power Ranger villian.

Batman looked like a Power Ranger in TDK but that's not why I hated that movie.

[Savage]

Im guessing theyll use slight CGI to enhance Skulls facial features and movement.

I think it looks good, not sure what people are unhappy about.

From what I understand that picture is already enhanced by CGI. I think all Weaving had was some red markers on his face.

[JAK®]

I thought it was prosthetics with digital enhancements?

[Savage]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

I'm seriously wondering how you even got that.

[Savage]

I thought it was prosthetics with digital enhancements?

I don't even know anymore. I hear too many different things around here. My understanding was that it was a 50/50 deal.

[bubbadoom]

The Red Skull is a full prosthetic make-up - the only digital work is removing his nose, like the guy in the Harry Potter films, because with prosthetics you can only add to the face, not take away. Digital work in not required to help "move" it, the actor has been doing that for years.

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm seriously wondering how you even got that.

Even he doesn't get it. He just opened his mouth and **** fell out.

[블라스]

Even he doesn't get it. He just opened his mouth and **** fell out.

:applaud

[Brian Braddock]

Even he doesn't get it. He just opened his mouth and **** fell out.

You only typed four stars there, Whiskey. 'Idiocy' is 5 words. :word:

[Silvermoth]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

Wha? He looks nothing like him! If anything he kind of reminded me of "The Haunted Mask" from the Goosebumps series.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6515/the20haunted20mask.jpg

[Galactus123]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg

[BigThor]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg

Yep, thank god he doesn't :cwink:

[Brian Braddock]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

Obvious trolling aside, there's a world [no - make that universe] of difference in quality, style, technique approach, and intent between the two make-ups we're talking about here. To be honest, your comment just makes you look like a spoilt brat who could be given a bar of gold for free only to complain that it isnt platinum.

Sadly, this is a trait all to common with your modern day 'fan' who expects things to be handed to them perfectly on a silver platter, and then even when it is, still say 'meh'.

It's posts like yours that make me hate the internet.

[BigThor]

Obvious trolling aside, there's a world [no - make that universe] of difference in quality, style, technique approach, and intent between the two make-ups we're talking about here. To be honest, your comment just makes you look like a spoilt brat who could be given a bar of gold for free only to complain that it isnt platinum.

Sadly, this is a trait all to common with your modern day 'fan' who expects things to be handed to them perfectly on a silver platter, and then even when it is, still say 'meh'.

It's posts like yours that make me hate the internet.

I second that :up:

[Brian Braddock]

Thanks. :up:

I'd third it but it would be a conflict of interest. :D

[Hurm...]

I third that. :up:

[Suzanne78]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

:whatever:

I love the Batman movies, Burton and Nolan. I also enjoy them despite their faults (IMO, they aren't perfect), but when I see comments like this, which is just silly trolling, it annoys me.

Why can't fans of this genre just agree that successful and quality comic book movies help the genre continue to grow and thrive. How boring would it be to only ever have the Nolan Batman movies because every other franchise failed critically and financially? I want diversity in my genre movies. It's just sad and a little stupid to put down one comic book movie because you're a fan of another franchise that's part of a different universe.

I'll always give DC movies a chance, even though I'm more a Marvel comic gal. I'm still planning on going to Green Lantern even though I'm not as impressed with the trailer as I wanted to be. But I'm hoping for good things from that. Same goes for X-Men.

But I'm really excited for CA, Thor, Superman, the Spider-Man reboot, and Dark Knight Rises. And both companies have failed in bringing major female heroes to the big screen in a substantial way. I'm not about to start saying that one movie's gonna fail in order to boost another. Those type of statements always have a way of coming back and biting you on the ass, in my opinion.

[BigThor]

:whatever:

I love the Batman movies, Burton and Nolan. I also enjoy them despite their faults (IMO, they aren't perfect), but when I see comments like this, which is just silly trolling, it annoys me.

Why can't fans of this genre just agree that successful and quality comic book movies help the genre continue to grow and thrive. How boring would it be to only ever have the Nolan Batman movies because every other franchise failed critically and financially? I want diversity in my genre movies. It's just sad and a little stupid to put down one comic book movie because you're a fan of another franchise that's part of a different universe.

I'll always give DC movies a chance, even though I'm more a Marvel comic gal. I'm still planning on going to Green Lantern even though I'm not as impressed with the trailer as I wanted to be. But I'm hoping for good things from that. Same goes for X-Men.

But I'm really excited for CA, Thor, Superman, the Spider-Man reboot, and Dark Knight Rises. And I'm not about to start saying that one movie's gonna fail in order to boost another. Those type of statements always have a way of coming back and biting you on the ass, in my opinion.

Yeah I know what you mean, I'm more of a Mavel fan but I like DC and I can't wait for GL to be released :). Even thought my favorite superhero is Thor, I still hope other comic book films do well so the genre as a whole can be taken more seriously.

Does anybody know what page this guy's stupid picture and comment was posted?

[The Infernal]

I like the look of the Red Skull. It looks like what you got in most comics without it being silly and instead looks very cool. Plus it does look like Weaving will be able to express a lot through that mask so it should make for a good performance.

[Dark Raven]

If Red Skull's Hugo Weaving face is just a mask, then why not give himself a fuller hairline while he's at it? Why would he go for one like he has?

[wobbly]

If Red Skull's Hugo Weaving face is just a mask, then why not give himself a fuller hairline while he's at it? Why would he go for one like he has?

Are you being serious? Is the hairline of his human faced mask really something you thought about?

[wobbly]

I third that. :up:

And 4th'd :up:

[Bren]

If Red Skull's Hugo Weaving face is just a mask, then why not give himself a fuller hairline while he's at it? Why would he go for one like he has?

It WAS a full head of hair, but that mask is freeking tight man!

[Savage]

Are you being serious? Is the hairline of his human faced mask really something you thought about?

It's a good, if not funny, observation. I mean obviously he did it for the sake of continuity with peers but it's funny that a more vain person would make themself look awesome.

[wobbly]

It's a good, if not funny, observation. I mean obviously he did it for the sake of continuity with peers but it's funny that a more vain person would make themself look awesome.

Lol :yay: It's a bit of a can of worms though, aint it?

I mean...the hairline?
Why stop there? He could have a Brad Pitt or Johhny Depp face mask, why settle on something that looks like Hugo Weaving? (not that Weaving is butt ugly, but there are better looking guys about).

That why I asked if they were being serious. The idea of the hairline standing out and asking why he did not go for a fuller one seems utterly silly to me when there is the whole face to play with if you do happen to think about that kind of thing :cwink:.

[Dark Raven]

Lol :yay: It's a bit of a can of worms though, aint it?

I mean...the hairline?
Why stop there? He could have a Brad Pitt or Johhny Depp face mask, why settle on something that looks like Hugo Weaving? (not that Weaving is butt ugly, but there are better looking guys about).

That why I asked if they were being serious. The idea of the hairline standing out and asking why he did not go for a fuller one seems utterly silly to me when there is the whole face to play with if you do happen to think about that kind of thing :cwink:.

Well I can understand why he might have the Hugo Weaving face, as he might want to look like he was before, or it might be the face that naturally fits over that skull visage (like how on CSI they often reconstruct a face over a skull). However, since his fellow Nazis or Hydra agents will know it's a mask anyway, why not give himself a different wig? It's not like someone is going to say "Herr Schmidtt, your hair looks fake. Is that a toupee?" Even if it does look like one, who is going to dare say that to his (fake) face?

[youkaisama]

Red Skull reminds me of a Power Ranger Villian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxJXl-LgayY/SxVPNaVx6mI/AAAAAAAADYg/8qcDSuP34dg/s1600/IvanOoze1.jpg

If Power Rangers had a gritty reboot and a 200 mill budget.

[Dark Sentinel]

I have to say that as a DC fan (and a Nolanite in particular) I'm really digging what I've seen of Cap. Not a fan of the title (was always partial to "The First Avenger: Captain America" but that's just me) but aside from that I really like the design of the film and what Marvel is doing with it's Cinematic Universe, so this could really be something special. I've even started believing in Evans as Rogers, despite his Johnny Storm-y past :woot:

[kaijunexus]

To all the whiners...

Do a quick image search on google for "Red Skull" and tell me which one is the definitive looks for the character. There's only been about a dozen and a half takes on the nuances of Red Skull's appearance.

[Rowsdower!]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg

LOL... 1990s Red Skull looks like a bloody booger.

The new Skull looks badass. Can't wait to see more of him.

[TheLoneCreature]

Has anyone noticed that Abin Sur from the GL movie looks a lot like that old Red Skull from the 90s? lol

But this Red Skull looks absolutely badass! CANNOT WAIT!

[Rain]

If Power Rangers had a gritty reboot and a 200 mill budget.

I'd actually pay to see that.

[Kingslayer]

I can't express how pleasantly pleased I am by Red Skull's look. I do hope he maintains the appearance for a good portion of the film. I'd hate for it to turn out to be similar to Scarecrow in Begins where Crane constantly pulled the mask off. I'm not suggesting that will happen, but merely expressing my hope that we will see the Skull in his true glory as much as possible (and maybe in future films?).

And as a side note, the Red Skull from the 1990 film is just appalling. Everything about it just makes me shake my head. And I'm not even considering the characterization here!

[ElMariachi]

Sadly, this is a trait all to common with your modern day 'fan' who expects things to be handed to them perfectly on a silver platter, and then even when it is, still say 'meh'.

It's posts like yours that make me hate the internet.

Agreed. The internet is filled with haters, trolls, and dorks. Everything about this movie looks great and of high quality, yet they still hate. Nothing pleases anybody these days. Unless of course it's made by Nolan and has a larger group of fanatics trolling every facet of the internet. These of course are the same obnoxious clowns hating on Iron Man 2 the entire summer. I honestly don't know who is worse when it comes to hating---sports fans or geeks.

[Rock Sexton]

Has anyone noticed that Abin Sur from the GL movie looks a lot like that old Red Skull from the 90s? lol

But this Red Skull looks absolutely badass! CANNOT WAIT!

See that's the first thing that came to my mind with prosthetics. I wasn't buying Abin's mask at all in the trailer. Part of that I think has to do with the translation of the color on screen.

[henry_9305]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg
Now that remind me of a Power Ranger Villian.

[Vartha]

Now that remind me of a Power Ranger Villian.
Reminds me of someone overdosed on Red bull. :D

[Silvermoth]

I only have one teensy problem with the Red Skull's face. Hugo has a very slim face and when he removes it the Skull's face looks quite a bit bigger.

I'm wondering if there will be a cartoony sound effect of the Red Skull's face inflating every time he takes off his mask :o:awesome:

[Darkness Falls]

its a pretty impressive hugo weaving mask :D

[steintym]

It was a pretty quick shot, but I think the Red Skull looks pretty cool.

[Dark Raven]

Red Skull with his Hugo Weaving mask should try a V for Vendetta mask over that!

[Silvermoth]

I don't think V would like Red Skull at all :csad:.

[Galactus123]

New Red Skull toy
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4049/55769410.jpg

[BigThor]

I only have one teensy problem with the Red Skull's face. Hugo has a very slim face and when he removes it the Skull's face looks quite a bit bigger.

I'm wondering if there will be a cartoony sound effect of the Red Skull's face inflating every time he takes off his mask :o:awesome:

Hugo Weaving's face isn't slim at all, atleast in my opinion.

[Dark Raven]

New Red Skull toy
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4049/55769410.jpg

Is that what Red Skull is going to look like in the movie? With a flat top and cylindrical head?

[Brian Braddock]

Exactly like that, yes. I believe the flat top and cylindrical head was a condition of Weaving accepting the role - he's always wanted to play a character with those attributes and had it written into his contract.

They took a spirit level to his head every day before shooting to make sure it was exactly level, otherwise Weaving didnt shoot that day until it was sorted.

[Hellion]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg


I actually thought it was okay, it just didn't scream Red Skull

[Whiskey Tango]

Is that what Red Skull is going to look like in the movie? With a flat top and cylindrical head?


Movie = doomed. :o

[MikeFrost]

Is that what Red Skull is going to look like in the movie? With a flat top and cylindrical head?

At least he has no ears :awesome:

[darknight7]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg

I'm not saying this make-up was anything great. But it was a decent attempt for the time. I mean it was pretty grotesque looking, if they just fixed the nose he would have looked much better.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8541/rdskl.jpg
--dk7

[Dark Raven]

Exactly like that, yes. I believe the flat top and cylindrical head was a condition of Weaving accepting the role - he's always wanted to play a character with those attributes and had it written into his contract.

They took a spirit level to his head every day before shooting to make sure it was exactly level, otherwise Weaving didnt shoot that day until it was sorted.

I thought as much. At least it's better than the 90s movie Red Skull.

I wonder if Cap can rest his shield on top? I'm betting Hitler probably rested his cups of tea up there in between inflamatory bigoted speeches.

[mrsparkle]

New Red Skull is great. Thank god that he doesn't look like this

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36268/1218647-red_skull_movie_super.jpg

At least they weren't afraid to use a swastika back then, I'm sick of seeing the hydra logo.

[WildcatNC]

At least they weren't afraid to use a swastika back then, I'm sick of seeing the hydra logo.



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Z5Q7nkW8LU/TFF-5bkiGjI/AAAAAAAAL2s/tN9CGishQ5Q/s1600/swastika.png



Feel better ?

[Galactus123]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Z5Q7nkW8LU/TFF-5bkiGjI/AAAAAAAAL2s/tN9CGishQ5Q/s1600/swastika.png



Feel better ?
That is better because they are nazis. This is WWII movie.

[strikezone89]

I think Skull looks pitch perfect compared to the comics. My only concern is that Weaving has slim head and the Skull looks like he's a bit bigger.

[steintym]

From what I've seen (which is not much) it looks like the Red Skull look will work. Looks like they probably have nailed it.

[Paste Pot Pete]

YAY SWASTIKAS! :dry:

[BizarroAids]

From the quick glance we get of the tv spot, I think RS is pretty dead on. Right color, resembles a skull, I don't think they got any part wrong. Now the 1990 movie, well let's face it- He looked like Red "Wax all over my face" nazi guy, more than anything close to Skull.

[Darkness Falls]

i know hydra is a secret nazi organization but the hydra logo isn't as intimidating as a swastika

[Gamma Goliath]

:awesome:
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/2misterj18/skull.jpg

I love this shot.

[MikeFrost]

i know hydra is a secret nazi organization but the hydra logo isn't as intimidating as a swastika

Because the swastika logo relies solely on we already knowing what it represents. It's based on pre-knowledge from the viewer's part.

It's up to them to make us fear Hydra as much as the Nazi symbol by showing us how evil they truly are. :cwink:

[Galactus123]

If they won't show swastika, it means that they are too scared to show it. It is stupid because this movie isn't just for children. Of course they don't have to show it all time but even once.

[WillardNation]

Well we know that there's a scene of Red Skull experimenting on Nazi (not Hydra) soldiers, so.....

[Silvermoth]

I'm still not really sure if that scene will work. The last thing you want this movie to do is say "hey, if you think nazis are bad WAIT TIL YOU GET A LOAD OF THESE GUYS!"

That would be quite offensive. If they can't deal with what World War II is about then they may as well not make the movie at all.

That said, I have heard nazis will definetly appear at the start which leads to conflict with Steve so I think Marvel gets it.

[JAK®]

I'm still not really sure if that scene will work. The last thing you want this movie to do is say "hey, if you think nazis are bad WAIT TIL YOU GET A LOAD OF THESE GUYS!"

That would be quite offensive. If they can't deal with what World War II is about then they may as well not make the movie at all.

That said, I have heard nazis will definetly appear at the start which leads to conflict with Steve so I think Marvel gets it.
Some people would say that having a fictional character fight in a real war where millions of real people died is offensive.

(I wouldn't say so, personally)

I really don't think it's about shying away from Nazis, but more about expanding the Marvel universe. I mean, we're getting HYDRA on the big screen. Shouldn't fans be happy?

[Brian Braddock]

You'd think so, wouldnt you?

I know I am - it's freakin' HYDRA for Pete's sake. Up there .... on the big screen. Fighting Cap.

How can anyone not be jazzed by that?

Anyways, to anyone who think's the idea of using HYDRA instead of Nazis is somehow offensive to history - it's no different to using the Red Skull instead of Hitler.

[Silvermoth]

It's entirely different. The Red Skull is not being used in lieu of Hitler. The two exist together. Using Hydra in lieu of the nazis makes this film seem to fluffy and nice for a film set in one of the most brutal and defining eras in history.

[Darkness Falls]

in the tv spot is it supposed to be hitler in that submarine ?

[JAK®]

It's entirely different. The Red Skull is not being used in lieu of Hitler. The two exist together. Using Hydra in lieu of the nazis makes this film seem to fluffy and nice for a film set in one of the most brutal and defining eras in history.
Except we don't know if Hydra is being used "in lieu of the Nazis". We have no idea of the extent the Nazis will be used.

[Silvermoth]

in the tv spot is it supposed to be hitler in that submarine ?

Of course that's not Hitler. It's Heinz Kugler, the nazi spy involved in Operation Rebirth. Richard Armitage doesn't even look like Hitler.

Except we don't know if Hydra is being used "in lieu of the Nazis". We have no idea of the extent the Nazis will be used.

Precisely. As in my post before I mentioned that nazis will play a role in the movie. I meant in my second post that reducing the nazis as a threat for a comic book blockbuster would be a very silly and pointless mistake.

[MikeFrost]

There's quite a few movies (some are even based on comics) that pull off the Nazi threat without it feeling cartoonish.

Besides, we don't need to have Schindler's Lists everytime the Nazi are part of the plot. You're pretty much narrowing yourself down just because it's a cruel event of our history.

I mean, Tarantino used the Nazi threat, completly flipped it on it's head and made what is one of his best movies.

[Darkness Falls]

Of course that's not Hitler. It's Heinz Kugler, the nazi spy involved in Operation Rebirth. Richard Armitage doesn't even look like Hitler.
.

my bad :o to be fair it's kind of a blink and you'll miss it shot so its easy to make a mistake my eyes must've been seeing things

[Iron_Stark]

There's quite a few movies (some are even based on comics) that pull off the Nazi threat without it feeling cartoonish.

Besides, we don't need to have Schindler's Lists everytime the Nazi are part of the plot. You're pretty much narrowing yourself down just because it's a cruel event of our history.

I mean, Tarantino used the Nazi threat, completly flipped it on it's head and made what is one of his best movies.

Tarantino wasn't making a PG-13 summer blockbuster that was going to have merchandising, videogames and toys.

This isn't the 80s when movies like Robocop, Toxic Avenger and others were R-rated that showed nudity, violence and cursing had cartoons and toylines. We're not in that era anymore.

You really think a t-shirt with a swatstika is going to sell or even put in a store?

[redhawk23]

Tarantino wasn't making a PG-13 summer blockbuster that was going to have merchandising, videogames and toys.

This isn't the 80s when movies like Robocop, Toxic Avenger and others were R-rated that showed nudity, violence and cursing had cartoons and toylines. We're not in that era anymore.

You really think a t-shirt with a swatstika is going to sell or even put in a store?


Hellboy had nazis.

[Timstuff]

If they won't show swastika, it means that they are too scared to show it. It is stupid because this movie isn't just for children. Of course they don't have to show it all time but even once.

It's probably for marketing reasons. It would be a PR nightmare if Hasbro were to make nazi action figures that had actual swastikas on them, and rather than simply leave the swastikas off of the toys Marvel chose to have an in-universe reason for the swastika to have a minimal presence throughout the film.

[Vartha]

Raiders of the lost ark and Last Crusade had Nazis too WHY are we on this again?
What is so wrong about Hydra being the scientific arm?

[Spider-Fan]

I predict Hydra will have some affiliation with the Nazis.

[Vartha]

It's probably for marketing reasons. It would be a PR nightmare if Hasbro were to make nazi action figures that had actual swastikas on them, and rather than simply leave the swastikas off of the toys Marvel chose to have an in-universe reason for the swastika to have a minimal presence throughout the film.
I doubt THAT will happen since Hydra is the ones in the movie that Cap is fighting for the most part.
Hydra is on the uniforms as far as I've seen, but still, if it needs explaining to some point that Hydra's a branch of the Nazi's what is wrong with that?

[WildcatNC]

I predict Hydra will have some affiliation with the Nazis.


:funny:



You just may be right.

[captainrogers]

Hellboy had nazis.

as will Cap, probably, but like Hellboy, I'm sure the mass-produced merch won't have the swastika proudly emblazoned on it.

[Savage]

You'd think so, wouldnt you?

I know I am - it's freakin' HYDRA for Pete's sake. Up there .... on the big screen. Fighting Cap.

How can anyone not be jazzed by that?

Anyways, to anyone who think's the idea of using HYDRA instead of Nazis is somehow offensive to history - it's no different to using the Red Skull instead of Hitler.

Exactly! I can't believe this is even an issue! Let's replace Cap's costume with regular fatigues while we're at it. Just enjoy seeing these guys brought to the big screen. I never thought I'd see Hydra on the big screen. Next people will be saying The Ten Rings should have been the Taliban and The Mandarin should be Osama Bin Laden. Just...enjoy the comic book goodness.

[kedrell]

Hellboy had nazis.

As did the PG Rocketeer.

[Wolvieboy17]

I think basically there is a much more practical way in which HYDRA functions as villains. We know they are grounded, or got there start as a branch of the Nazi party, but with the power struggle within (RS wanting power) Hydra breaking off from the Nazi's allows them to continue to appear in the future as an organisation that still exists. It would be harder to do that with Nazi's, since we know they were beaten. Whatever Nazi supporters would still exist, it's not realistic to expect they have armies etc in present day.

Hydra, on the other hand...

[WildcatNC]

As did the PG Rocketeer.


As does Cap. :woot:

[JAK®]

I think basically there is a much more practical way in which HYDRA functions as villains. We know they are grounded, or got there start as a branch of the Nazi party, but with the power struggle within (RS wanting power) Hydra breaking off from the Nazi's allows them to continue to appear in the future as an organisation that still exists. It would be harder to do that with Nazi's, since we know they were beaten. Whatever Nazi supporters would still exist, it's not realistic to expect they have armies etc in present day.

Hydra, on the other hand...
Yeah, that's basically it in a nutshell.

[Galactus123]

I wanna see scene like this
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GoN5EPxM4Y8/TJPlFnM-5sI/AAAAAAAAARk/DmpyhQ3Z6cg/s1600/indiana_jones_and_the_last_crusade_1989_500x364_85 7197.jpg

Just replace Indy with Steve Rogers. :woot:

[Wolvieboy17]

"Jah, you seem to check out, Herr Imanazi. You may enter."

"Thank you"

"Hey, vaaaaaait a minute. Vy are you vearingk the blue suit vith the american colours?"

"Oh, well you see, the reason for that....is right.....HERE! *KLANG*"

[kedrell]

I think basically there is a much more practical way in which HYDRA functions as villains. We know they are grounded, or got there start as a branch of the Nazi party, but with the power struggle within (RS wanting power) Hydra breaking off from the Nazi's allows them to continue to appear in the future as an organisation that still exists. It would be harder to do that with Nazi's, since we know they were beaten. Whatever Nazi supporters would still exist, it's not realistic to expect they have armies etc in present day.

Hydra, on the other hand...

Well if we want to really get comics accurate, then didn't Hydra actually pre-date the Nazis? It was a subversive ancient secret society(based somewhat on real secret societies in our world) in the comics that happened to join the Nazis when they eventually came along due to them both having similar goals and ideals.

I don't know if the movie will address this aspect or not but it'd be a nice easter egg if RS or somebody would mention it in a passing line or whatever. It'd also help make more sense that Hydra would not die even should the Nazis lose the war(which is what happened).

[Wolvieboy17]

Well if we want to really get comics accurate, then didn't Hydra actually pre-date the Nazis? It was a subversive ancient secret society(based somewhat on real secret societies in our world) in the comics that happened to join the Nazis when they eventually came along due to them both having similar goals and ideals.

I don't know if the movie will address this aspect or not but it'd be a nice easter egg if RS or somebody would mention it in a passing line or whatever. It'd also help make more sense that Hydra would not die even should the Nazis lose the war(which is what happened).


They LOST? Oh crap, I should burn my swastika...

[kedrell]

They LOST? Oh crap, I should burn my swastika...

Just keep your octopus symbol. It's gonna have a longer shelf-life.:woot:

But seriously, I think it'd be good to point out(in the movie) that while Hydra is an arm of the Nazi machine, they are also apart from it historically speaking since they've been surviving for centuries.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well I think they will. They've said that Hydra has completely different motives.

[kedrell]

Well I think they will. They've said that Hydra has completely different motives.

Well I hope not completely different. After all, there was a reason that they came out of the shadows to join with the Nazis in the first place.

[Wolvieboy17]

Well yeah, presumably to use them and their resources for their own evil purposes.

[Vartha]

Well I think they will. They've said that Hydra has completely different motives.
heh Elsa had completely different motives in Last Crusade too. :woot:

[MikeFrost]

You really think a t-shirt with a swatstika is going to sell or even put in a store?

You're talking about merchadising when I was talking about the Nazi being used in modern fiction without it being seen as offensive. Hellboy is a good example of a comic book movie that uses the Nazi as the initial antagonists.

[Silvermoth]

Exactly! I can't believe this is even an issue! Let's replace Cap's costume with regular fatigues while we're at it. Just enjoy seeing these guys brought to the big screen. I never thought I'd see Hydra on the big screen. Next people will be saying The Ten Rings should have been the Taliban and The Mandarin should be Osama Bin Laden. Just...enjoy the comic book goodness.

There's definetly a problem with comic book movies being too silly and fluffy though. What if Afghanistan was renamed 'Derkaderkastan' and Tony's alcoholism was referred to as 'Tony receiving medication from Auntie Boozer' :cwink::awesome:

[MikeFrost]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/127131-there-will-be-nazis-in-captain-america

Why this was even a concern for some people blows my mind...

[Vile]

Indeed.

[Silvermoth]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/127131-there-will-be-nazis-in-captain-america

Why this was even a concern for some people blows my mind...

well, it is a World War II movie.

Of course, this was confirmed months ago

[redhawk23]

as will Cap, probably, but like Hellboy, I'm sure the mass-produced merch won't have the swastika proudly emblazoned on it.


And is that really a problem, I mean is really that bad for a Red Skull action figure to have a hydra emblem instead of a swastika?

[captainrogers]

And is that really a problem, I mean is really that bad for a Red Skull action figure to have a hydra emblem instead of a swastika?

Not at all! Just pointing that out to the people who almost seem to have been jumping to the conclusion that Nazis do not exist in film Cap's world simply because they have not seen a swastika in any shots yet.

[kedrell]

Not at all! Just pointing that out to the people who almost seem to have been jumping to the conclusion that Nazis do not exist in film Cap's world simply because they have not seen a swastika in any shots yet.


Well that and that we also haven't seen any tradtional looking Nazi uniforms either(other than that latest high rez pic of RS in his trenchcoat & cap).

[Silvermoth]

ha! Well, it's like I always say...
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2752/capposter.jpg

[Wolvieboy17]

Tell that to all the other people who have lead the Avengers are aren't from 1942 :P

[Silvermoth]

It's a riff on 'The Social Network' poster, you're overthinking it.

[Darkness Falls]

Nice :D

[Spider-Fan]

People who thought there wouldn't be Nazis were foolish. Clearly, I am not shocked they're confirmed. Nor that Hydra is part of the Reich. I even called that happening. What do I win?

[MikeFrost]

You don't win stuff for calling out things that are already in the comics...

[Wolvieboy17]

I reckon Hulk will be in the Avengers.... Whadoiwin, eh?EH?

[MikeFrost]

Not a chance!

[Colonel Kurtz]

The one question I have is how does the Red Skull have such a lifelike mask of Hugo Weaving. Shield technology LMD mask? Mission Impossible mask? Just movie magic?

[WildcatNC]

The one question I have is how does the Red Skull have such a lifelike mask of Hugo Weaving. Shield technology LMD mask? Mission Impossible mask? Just movie magic?


Hydra is the evil equivalent of SHIELD. They have similar tech capabilities. HYDRA may even be more advance at the time Cap was created. The nazi's were ahead of us at the time tech wise.

[Brian Braddock]

I reckon Hulk will be in the Avengers.... Whadoiwin, eh?EH?

I may be reaching here, but I reckon the Avengers will do some Avenging and stuff.

[Punk&ComicBooks]

The one question I have is how does the Red Skull have such a lifelike mask of Hugo Weaving. Shield technology LMD mask? Mission Impossible mask? Just movie magic?

Yeah you beat me to this question lol. I`m actually more curious about it as opposed to the rest of their advanced technology....Anyone else have any ideas? lol

[Wolvieboy17]

Well I guess it's theoretically possible. I mean his red skull face would have all the same facial and muscle structure, minus the nose.

[Brian Braddock]

All this talk of willains having 'advanced' weapons has reminded me just how much I want to see A.I.M. in a Marvel movie at some point.

[GhostPoet]

well, they do say that governments tend to be 10 years ahead of what we see in the public eye that they unveil. Consider that with the fact that the villains have the Cosmic cube and no restrictions in their studies....

[Afropik]

a look at Red Skull

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/03/captain-america-red-skull-first-look-exclusive/

[Brian Braddock]

Well then, just what have you posted?

:up:

[Whiskey Tango]

http://i56.tinypic.com/70bcqv.jpg

The premise of the movie, out July 22, is that the serum only brings out the subject’s inner strength. Good guys, like Steve Rogers, remain good guys — only much tougher. Bad guys, like Schmidt, turn into living horrors. Director Joe Johnston (October Sky, The Wolfman) talked with EW about how Captain America may be the most human of the superheroes, and certainly the most humble — a little guy who remembers what it was like to be pushed around.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: The strength of heroes is often found in their weaknesses. What vulnerabilities does Captain America have that make him interesting and relatable?
JOE JOHNSTON: What I like is he’s not a superhero in the true sense of the word. He becomes a superhero but doesn’t have any super powers. He is just the best possible, human specimen. Imagine the fastest, strongest Olympian athlete. Add 30 percent. That’s Steve Rogers.

The movie is set during World War II, when there was great pressure on men to fight, but Steve is physically frail at the beginning and the military doesn’t even want him.
The thing that appeals to me is he is everyman. He’s a 98-pound weakling. All he really wants to do is the right thing and serve his country and [at first] nobody wants him because he’s too weak. He’s been picked on all his life. But he’s a guy who never gives up. That’s his trademark.

After he gets the super-soldier injection, that’s when he becomes the only hope of stopping the Nazis’ Red Skull. Is part of what makes him a hero that he remembers what it was like to be pushed around?
Yeah, for Steve Rogers it’s a very personal thing. At one point he says, “I don’t like bullies, I don’t care where they’re from.” He makes a complete physical transformation to a perfect human specimen. But inside he doesn’t change at all. It must be tempting to go back and say “I’m going to get that guy who beat me up in high school.” He does get revenge in the film, but on the Nazis — not on people who maybe picked on him. Before he gets the injection, the doctor tells him: “Whatever happens, stay who you are.”

The first issue of Captain America in the Marvel Comics featured him punching Hitler in the jaw. That was March 1941, well before the U.S. even entered the war. Is there still a political side to Cap?
He was created as propaganda tool, but he soon became much more than that. There are all these incarnations over the decades, but the film is not a flag waver. It’s about a guy who wants to do the right thing, and that transcends all nationalities and borders. He’s going to do the right thing no matter what flag is on his chest.

How do you feel about the title being changed to The First Avenger for release internationally?
There was some concern [the name] Captain America will not play in certain countries. If it were up to me I wouldn’t thread the needle so carefully. I’d call it Captain America, since that’s what it is.

Chris Evans was also in Marvel’s Fantastic Four movies as human flame Johnny Storm. Did that work for or against him in casting, since Cap is much more of a noble, upstanding good-guy?
The character is bigger than any actor. I always saw it as an advantage that Chris Evans wasn’t a household name. When you pick someone not so well known, he’s not bringing a lot of baggage to the role. I cast him in what I seen him do in other projects. He brought a whole other layer to what was on the page, and it’s been great watching him become that character.

Did you have to think much about the upcoming Avengers movie when working on Captain America?
I really didn’t. Because this was a period film, because this was the origin story, I didn’t have to worry about the Avengers which was a present day story. We have present-day bookends and bring Cap back at the end and then I basically hand him off. And The Avengers is its own thing.

As a fan, and someone who is creating a critical ingredient, what do you expect from this clash of characters in The Avengers?
The fact that they are all so different is what will make it exciting. You bring these elements together and they all have different outlooks and come from different worlds. I think there is an opportunity for conflict within the group. There’s gotta be. It’s not the Boy Scouts. [Laughs] There’s going to be rivalry and certain amount of infighting and conflict. Like I say I’m going to be there as an audience member like anybody else.

Does working on a superhero movie deplete your interest in superheroes?
I’ve had other offers for movies like this and usually turned them down. To me there’s something less interesting about a guy who can fly, and throw tanks around, and stuff like that. The reason I wanted to do this one is he is so relatable. I can relate to him. Maybe it’s every kid’s dream to go into a pod and come out looking like Captain America. [Laughs] And you don’t even have to exercise or lift weights! It’s great!

How do you relate to someone who can fly, and is bulletproof, and can throw tanks around?
Movies like that are a lot harder to do, because how you make someone like that vulnerable? Someone like Superman. I don’t know if that’s the best example, but it’s certainly the one that comes to mind. How do you make a guy who is invincible seem real? Kryptonite, that is his one weakness, but I don’t know. It’s much easier with a guy like Steve Rogers who has all kinds of built in weaknesses, because of who he was and how he grew up.

There was a previous Captain America movie in 1990, starring Matt Salinger [coincidentally, the son of author J.D. Salinger]. Not many people have seen it, but did you take a look…?
No, no … It’s something they chose to not make a big deal about. The guys at Marvel said,”Nah don’t even bother. It’s so unlike anything we’re doing with the character now.”

Was it worth watching if only to see what not to do?
No, we’re perfectly capable of making our own mistakes!

[BoredGuy]

oh snap.

he looks pretty BA right there.

Good find Whiskey!

[Whiskey Tango]

Wasn't me, I just posted the stuff from the other guys link.

[TikkiEXX]

theyre goin nuts over this over at Aint it Cool. not one negative comment......yet. lol

[Brian Braddock]

Which is better?

Hmmm..........

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/70bcqv.jpg

It's a toughie, isnt it?

:D

[BoredGuy]

That's remarkable...

but I mean really, its a great, accurate make-up effect, aside from the cauliflower ears maybe, but even that seems fitting

[Symbiotic]

My. God! Symbi likes.:up:

[batman44]

Love the pic, though I have to be honest. At first glance, I thought it was a Hot Toys figure or something.

[Mrpaul]

Looks awesome

[Danalys]

Love the pic, though I have to be honest. At first glance, I thought it was a Hot Toys figure or something.

same here. i think it's just the lighting is the same as it is when they show off toys. i only figured out what it really was because it was from entertainment weekly.

[louiebling$]

****ing amazing!!

[Raiden]

Hugo Weaving looks unbelievable as Red Skull. Now if the first full-length trailer premieres this week it'd be cap off an incredible week for Captain America.

[Iron_Stark]

Badass. That HAS to be the best comic to movie transition for a villain so far for every CBM out there.

[co2]

THAT..is the most BA pic I have seen from this movie so far.
Knowing what Weaving can do with it is even more exciting.

[Figs]

Looks badass!

[rogue trooper]

Amazing!! The most faithful to the looks of the comics from all of the Marvel movie villains!!