The Official Zack Snyder Thread

[Project862006]

he needs a change imo not a drastic one where it is unrecognizable but it needs to be fresh routh/reeves feels stale

[HighFivingMF]

he needs a change imo not a drastic one where it is unrecognizable but it needs to be fresh routh/reeves feels stale
I concur, nobody's suggesting a green and orange leotard with pixie boots and a cape. Just change up the boots a bit or redesign the "S"

Keep the blue, red, yellow, and the basic layout (boots, cape, "S" and I'd be fine with or without trunks).

[GreenKToo]

From what I hear about snyder, he is just as big of a comic geek as we are, maybe moreso, so I doubt we have much to worry about with the suit. I'm more worried about the cast right now myself.

[roach]

I concur, nobody's suggesting a green and orange leotard with pixie boots and a cape. Just change up the boots a bit or redesign the "S"

Keep the blue, red, yellow, and the basic layout (boots, cape, "S" and I'd be fine with or without trunks).

trunks have to be there...visually the trunks break up all that blue and balance the look of the character...every design I have seen without the trunks has that problem.

[Mike22]

All I know is that the suit ain't broken, so there's no reason try to fix it. If they do, then to hell with it all.

[Mike22]

I concur, nobody's suggesting a green and orange leotard with pixie boots and a cape. Just change up the boots a bit or redesign the "S"

Keep the blue, red, yellow, and the basic layout (boots, cape, "S" and I'd be fine with or without trunks).
See I wouldn't have a problem with changing the boots a bit, that doesn't matter. But things like the removal of the trunks or belt are not acceptable. The shield should be like the comics one, and definitely a shield on the cape.

[bgshw44]

i am not going to worry, i have a feeling they will just do something different that hasnt been seen on film before, but popular in the comics ala birthright etc...

[Parker Wayne]

trunks have to be there...visually the trunks break up all that blue and balance the look of the character...every design I have seen without the trunks has that problem.

Agreed.

[Kurosawa]

trunks have to be there...visually the trunks break up all that blue and balance the look of the character...every design I have seen without the trunks has that problem.

The closest thing is a red or yellow sash and that's Captain Marvel territory. Trunks just work, and have got to stay.

[Nave 'Torment']

Keep the trunks, and the 'S', there are more people in the world who know Superman's 'S' than there are people who know Batman even has a logo. At least that's what my experience tells me.

There are a lot of interesting suggestions about the suit here, you guys might want to take it up to the costume thread. Now... about Snyder. Who's he hiring to re-write the story? I remember he wanted another draft from what Goyer wrote.

[Thread Manager]

This is a continuation thread, the old thread is 342472

[Spider-Fan]

I decided to bump this thread, given I was talking a lot about Snyder and Nolan's dynamic in the Cavill thread.

[roach]

How is this part 1 and its a continuation of another thread

[Maze]

I don't like Goode, so I am not for that.



I also think TDKR will turn out better if he focuses his energy on that as opposed to looking over Snyder's shoulder all the time. Plus, he too is a director at heart. Directors who produce know what it is like to have someone looking over your shoulder everyday. Does Nolan want to do that to Snyder? Given he is filming a movie himself around the same time, I doubt it.

Good points, i agree, i would prefer that he concentrate all is energy on Tdkr..IF overseeing superman would took too much energies from him.. i'm not Nolan, i expect him to knows what he need..

Now, yes, he seems to respect a director vision.. BUT from his own admission, he respect a lot Warner too and it seem, that he feels that he own them.. and imo Warner without doubts will be reassured if Nolan keep an eye on Snyder. why? Because Nolan did bring a lot more money than Snyder on his last movies and he is more respected as a filmmaker.

Gotta go, i will look for your answer later ;)

[Spider-Fan]

Good points, i agree, i would prefer that he concentrate all is energy on Tdkr..IF overseeing superman would took too much energies from him.. i'm not Nolan, i expect him to knows what he need..

Someone needs to produce a 3rd film that doesn't dip heavily in quality! Nolan can do this, and I'm hoping he doesn't allow TDKR to suffer. I'm hopeful for it.

Now, yes, he seems to respect a director vision.. BUT from his own admission, he respect a lot Warner too and it seem, that he feels that he own them.. and imo Warner without doubts will be reassured if Nolan keep an eye on Snyder. why? Because Nolan did bring a lot more money than Snyder on his last movies and he is more respected as a filmmaker.

Gotta go, i will look for your answer later ;)

Nolan probably does feel like he owns them, and he should. He has made WB a ton of money. But, would WB necessarily want their top property, ie Batman, not deliver after TDK and get some bad PR just so he can watch Superman more carefully? I think WB will feel Nolan's name being on it will help credibility, even if he is not hands on.

[ALP]

How is this part 1 and its a continuation of another thread

I was wondering the same thing LOL

Anyway it has been a while but now I make my return to the Snyder thread to praise his every move:awesome:

[El Payaso]

How is this part 1 and its a continuation of another thread

Because it is a vague sequel.

[matrix_ghost]

I think WB will feel Nolan's name being on it will help credibility, even if he is not hands on.


Which is the case with Spielberg and Bay and TF. Spielberg is hands off when it comes to making the TF movies , that's Bay's job. He's just making sure everything is there for Bay to do his thing.

And i think that is what Nolan and SNyder should do. Nolan is the producer but he'll be/should be focused on TDKR.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

So I saw Jon Hamm in an interview last night for whatever awards show was going on, and he was asked about Superman. He gave the same old "too old for it" answer, and said he "just saw Zack the other day". He seemed to get sorta tightlipped and awkward talking about it, so I wonder if he really might play Jor-El. Probably reading too much into it, but that'd be awesome.

[KRIM]

I thought Smallville and Krypton were off-limits because of the lawsuit?

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I don't really know, I'd heard that, I thought they just couldn't do a straight up origin movie. I don't see why there couldn't still be flashbacks via the Fortress or something though. If you can't use anything Krypton related, I don't see how they can even make a Superman movie.

[KRIM]

I think it's just Krypton and Kryptonite. This restriction might even force them to get creative. I think most fans would agree those two are overused elements in every Superman story. The former loves to drive home that Clark is the last of his race, the latter almost reached the levels of deus ex machina.

They can do a Superman film just fine without any hints of his origins or weaknesses. I always found it interesting to make his past a mystery and reveal it through the sequels. Let the Kryptonian roots get revealed later on, and have the audience learn with CK along the way.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

That sounds good. I'm all for no Kryptonite too... I'm really sick of it. I want a threat that Superman can go head to head with, and doesn't end with him sick on the ground while regular dudes stomp him out. What's impressive about that?

[Saint]

I think it's just Krypton and Kryptonite. This restriction might even force them to get creative. I think most fans would agree those two are overused elements in every Superman story. The former loves to drive home that Clark is the last of his race, the latter almost reached the levels of deus ex machina.

They can do a Superman film just fine without any hints of his origins or weaknesses. I always found it interesting to make his past a mystery and reveal it through the sequels. Let the Kryptonian roots get revealed later on, and have the audience learn with CK along the way.

Didn't they resolve that? I can never keep track of this crap. Anyways, if they really needed to they would just pay to use whatever they needed.

Part of me wants to see the story from the beginning (Mark Millar's never-made three film epic depicting Superman from his birth to his death thousands of years later always appealed to me), though I fully understand that it may be less tiresome for the audience to simply hit the ground running. Superman's never had that sort of film before, at least not one that was well done. STM was all about the origin, SII heavily involved Krypton and the family history, and the others... well, you know.

I can see how it would be really tempting to say "Here's a film that could be any classic Superman story, in the prime of his career--nevermind Krypton and blah blah." I think the trade-off you might have to make is that you may have a less fully-formed universe, because you haven't walked the audience through the whole of it.

Of course, there's an argument to be made for slowly unfolding your universe, as opposed to showing it in a linear fashion. Reveal Krypton and touch on Superman's origin in a sequel, and that might work--though that's getting ahead of ourselves. I just worry that if you cut out Krypton, you're cutting out a huge part of the science fiction spectacle that I enjoy. If you put Brainiac in there, that might solve my problem.

[GreenKToo]

question for snyder fans...how well did he communicate with the fans during watchmen?

[craigdbfan]

Pretty damn well I'd say.

[KRIM]

Didn't they resolve that? I can never keep track of this crap. Anyways, if they really needed to they would just pay to use whatever they needed.
After a little searching around, it had to have been. Here's the best summation I could find:

Basically, this means that the conclusion to this lawsuit, whatever the hell that may be, will come sooner rather than later. Previous rulings have tended to side with the Siegel family, rewarding them with rights to certain facets of the character, including his costume, his alter-ego (Clark Kent), Lois Lane, their reporter jobs, his Kryptonian origin, et cetera. This is because the original Action Comics #1 was created and sold by Shuster and Siegel to DC Comics.

Other elements of Superman’s character, including Kryptonite, Lex Luthor, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, and Superman’s powers related to vision and flying, will continue to be owned by Warner Bros. and DC Comics because they were created as work-for-hire after the initial purchase.
It was a lot more divisive than I remembered. When it comes down to it both parties need each other because those are some integral elements of the lore that they're both carrying. No one side is going to win with that much to lose.

I can see how it would be really tempting to say "Here's a film that could be any classic Superman story, in the prime of his career--nevermind Krypton and blah blah." I think the trade-off you might have to make is that you may have a less fully-formed universe, because you haven't walked the audience through the whole of it.
I see it as a trade-off with any initial film of a franchise. It's impossible to cover all the ground with one movie. I don't think it has to be approached linearly in that you can never go back to the events preceding what you started off with.

Of course, there's an argument to be made for slowly unfolding your universe, as opposed to showing it in a linear fashion. Reveal Krypton and touch on Superman's origin in a sequel, and that might work--though that's getting ahead of ourselves. I just worry that if you cut out Krypton, you're cutting out a huge part of the science fiction spectacle that I enjoy. If you put Brainiac in there, that might solve my problem.
As a fan though it's become tiring to always hit it off from Smallville and Krypton. There's only so many ways they can reinterpret the same basic structure of his origin. I'd be fine with it given if it can be conveyed in a fresh way. A large part of me feels like it's just simpler to avoid those connections with previous iterations and give the audience something they've never seen or expected from a Superman film. No fan would dare say the Kryptonian roots are inconsequential, but I think its underlying principle of discovery gives the creative team some breathing room for an appropriate temporal placement.

[GreenKToo]

Pretty damn well I'd say.
Good to hear. I didnt follow watchmen during production so I wasnt sure how well informed he kept the fans during it..He'll hopefully do the same with Superman.

[craigdbfan]

Yeah both during and after.

For example Watchmens Blu Ray Directors Cut I believe has this entire in depth live commentary from Snyder of the whole movie.

He really appreciates comics and you can tell that he's very fan mind oriented if that makes any sense. It helps that he has a great hand with visuals and despite what some people say but he also gets great performances from his actors.

I love all his movies. He's a great director thats criticized for some of his techniques but he is a modern day comic book/SH adapting version of Sam Peckinpah.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah, I agree. I've loved every single one of his movies, short list that may be right now. I expect that after Sucker Punch and Superman, he'll probably be my number one favorite.

[GreenKToo]

I liked 300, and loved watchmen, so i'm pretty well stoked.

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Hopefully we will get an official synopsis pretty soon, so that we can at least have an idea as to what the film is going to be about and possibly who the villain/s might be.

[BH/HHH]

Hopefully we will get an official synopsis pretty soon, so that we can at least have an idea as to what the film is going to be about and possibly who the villain/s might be.

It'd be nice but I doubt we'll get one anytime soon we haven't even got one for the Dark Knight Rises yet.

I liked 300, and loved watchmen, so i'm pretty well stoked.

Whilst I didn't like 300 (it was well made though), I do love Watchmen and I'm realy psyched to see what Snyder's got in store for Superman.

[GreenKToo]

I know some folks worry about too much slo mo with snyder...but, I can't think of a character more deserving of it than superman....
I can see a scene where snyder has slowed supe's surroundings down to a crawl, while supes himself appears to be moving at normal speed.

[storyteller]

Snyder's slo mo though is really used in scenes where there's a lot going on so he wants you to soak it all in. He's kinda the anti Nolan in those regards. Though I think that Superman in of itself will make him not use slo mo is cases because Superspeed looses its edge when its slowed down.

[BigThor]

Snyder's slo mo though is really used in scenes where there's a lot going on so he wants you to soak it all in. He's kinda the anti Nolan in those regards. Though I think that Superman in of itself will make him not use slo mo is cases because Superspeed looses its edge when its slowed down.

That worked very well in 300 and Watchmen, because you really could take in everything without missing any action. Sucker Punch's action scenes look "mind blowing", especially the scene where she's fightin the giant samurai.

I for one think he will do a FANTASTIC job as director of Superman. Think about it, he's a director that delivers awesome actions scenes and he's direction a movie about one of the most powerful superheroes ever.

[Spoonman]

I guess Snyder is really good at multi-tasking, he must be a very busy guy, I mean just look, he must be preping pre-production for Superman and at the same time he is in post for Sucker Punch. By the time Superman commence shooting I guess Sucker Punch will be just released so he will be in the midst of promotion and stuff, add to that all the media scrutiny that a project such as Superman carries in itself; mad props to Snyder seriously.

[DarkKnight FTW]

I know some folks worry about too much slo mo with snyder...but, I can't think of a character more deserving of it than superman....
I can see a scene where snyder has slowed supe's surroundings down to a crawl, while supes himself appears to be moving at normal speed.

Probably the Flash since he's based on speed, lol

[BH/HHH]

I know some folks worry about too much slo mo with snyder...but, I can't think of a character more deserving of it than superman....
I can see a scene where snyder has slowed supe's surroundings down to a crawl, while supes himself appears to be moving at normal speed.

That would be awesome

That worked very well in 300 and Watchmen, because you really could take in everything without missing any action. Sucker Punch's action scenes look "mind blowing", especially the scene where she's fightin the giant samurai.

I for one think he will do a FANTASTIC job as director of Superman. Think about it, he's a director that delivers awesome actions scenes and he's direction a movie about one of the most powerful superheroes ever.

The fights scenes in 300 and Watchmen were awesome.

I think he's perfect for Superman :up: here's hoping he won't let us down. I certainly have more faith in him than Singer who I don't think is very good at directing action scenes. His X-Men movies are very underwhelming if you ask me.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

His Dawn of the Dead remake is underrated and so is Watchmen for that matter. If he makes a Superman movie as good as those flicks then I will be an extremely happy camper. Right now things seem to be going decently enough, I hope they don't cast anybody sucky as Lois Lane.

[BH/HHH]

His Dawn of the Dead remake is underrated and so is Watchmen for that matter. If he makes a Superman movie as good as those flicks then I will be an extremely happy camper. Right now things seem to be going decently enough, I hope they don't cast anybody sucky as Lois Lane.

I really don't like Dawn of the Dead, its got no emotion to it at all and just *****s on everything thats good in the far superior original but each to their own.

I really don't get why so many people hate Watchmen its such a good film.

As for casting Lois yeah after SR's miscasting they really do have to get her right. Hopefully though she won't be as much in focus as she was in SR's (should it have been called Lois Lane featuring the return of Superman :p).

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I cared about the characters and situations in the remake and I was pretty eh when it came to the original but to each his or her own. The original Dead film is a classic but I don't hold Remero in high reagrd as a filmmmaker at all because thats the only film of his that I really give a s**t about. lol

I given up on trying to figure out why the geeks hate Watchmen, I mean I get why normal moviegoers don't give a crap but not my fellow geeks. I thought that it was a good effort. It had it's flaws but I liked most of what I saw.

Yeah, Lois had way to much screentime in SR. Lois needs a decent actress who fits the role and she needs to be brought back to her spunky, slightly b**chy but lovable roots.

[BH/HHH]

I cared about the characters and situations in the remake and I was pretty eh when it came to the original but to each his or her own. The original Dead film is a classic but I don't hold Remero in high reagrd as a filmmmaker at all because thats the only film of his that I really give a s**t about. lol

I given up on trying to figure out why the geeks hate Watchmen, I mean I get why normal moviegoers don't give a crap but not my fellow geeks. I thought that it was a good effort. It had it's flaws but I liked most of what I saw.

Yeah, Lois had way to much screentime in SR. Lois needs a decent actress who fits the role and she needs to be brought back to her spunky, slightly b**chy but lovable roots.

I love the original Night and Dawn but from Day onwards all his zombie films were awful. Creepshow was a good Romero film :D

Yeah I thought they adapted it very well from the comic, and some of the stuff they left out (giant squid) were plausible it would have looked daft on film.

Yeah Lois in SR's was just awful, she ignored Clark to the point where you just think why did he bother?! lol

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I love the original Night and Dawn but from Day onwards all his zombie films were awful. Creepshow was a good Romero film :D

Yeah I thought they adapted it very well from the comic, and some of the stuff they left out (giant squid) were plausible it would have looked daft on film.

Yeah Lois in SR's was just awful, she ignored Clark to the point where you just think why did he bother?! lolYou got me on CreepShow, I love that movie so that is number 2.

The funny thing is I always hated that "Giant Squid" ending so I was happy as hell when the movie didn't feature it. I didn't like the Pirate comics either so I was right as rain when they didn't feature those either.

I'm just glad that we can move on from the SR's Lois. Hopefully the filmmakers learned a lesson. Nobody wants to see a charmless, b**chy, uber serious mother Lois. People who loved SR didn't understand why they decided to turn the second best female comicbook character IMHO (next to Catwoman) into whatever that was. I'm happy it's gone and can't wait to see what they bring to the table this time.

[Jake Cassidy]

I haven't even seen the original Dawn of the Dead.

[BH/HHH]

You got me on CreepShow, I love that movie so that is number 2.

The funny thing is I always hated that "Giant Squid" ending so I was happy as hell when the movie didn't feature it. I didn't like the Pirate comics either so I was right as rain when they didn't feature those either.

I'm just glad that we can move on from the SR's Lois. Hopefully the filmmakers learned a lesson. Nobody wants to see a charmless, b**chy, uber serious mother Lois. People who loved SR didn't understand why they decided to turn the second best female comicbook character IMHO (next to Catwoman) into whatever that was. I'm happy it's gone and can't wait to see what they bring to the table this time.

:D "Where's my cake you b**ch?"

Well I'll be honest I never finished the Watchmen graphic novel got a little bored but I loved the film.

As much as Bosworth was miscast it was the scripts fault so if she's scripted well we're half way there. Me either mate looking forward to it.

[BH/HHH]

I haven't even seen the original Dawn of the Dead.

:wow: WHAT?! I'd say watch it but it will depend on whether you like movies from the 70s I feel, its very 70s.

[Jake Cassidy]

You'd be amazed at the movies I haven't seen.

[Mace Bloodstone]

When is filming scheduled to start, or rumored to start??

[Jake Cassidy]

Tomorrow.

[BH/HHH]

When is filming scheduled to start, or rumored to start??

I heard filming is in August in Vancouver but whether thats the first place they film, I'm unsure.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

:D "Where's my cake you b**ch?"

Well I'll be honest I never finished the Watchmen graphic novel got a little bored but I loved the film.

As much as Bosworth was miscast it was the scripts fault so if she's scripted well we're half way there. Me either mate looking forward to it.I love that segment but The Crate one is my favorite!

I liked the movie more than the Graphic novel but that may be because gasp...I'm not really that in to comicbooks.

[Jake Cassidy]

I have never read Watchmen, but I love the movie. I like all of Snyder's movies so far.

[BH/HHH]

I love that segment but The Crate one is my favorite!

I liked the movie more than the Graphic novel but that may be because gasp...I'm not really that in to comicbooks.

Yeah the Crate is my favourite also I just think the cake lines the standout line in the film.

I prefer something I can watch to something I can read tbh.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah the Crate is my favourite also I just think the cake lines the standout line in the film.

I prefer something I can watch to something I can read tbh.

Oh that line is great, I say it all the time.

I am really into film as a form of storytelling, that is to say, that it is my favorite form of storytelling. I love the writen word and appreciate it greatly but nothing moves me like film does.

[Jake Cassidy]

I haven't read a novel since high school.

[BH/HHH]

Oh that line is great, I say it all the time.

I am really into film as a form of storytelling, that is to say, that it is my favorite form of storytelling. I love the writen word and appreciate it greatly but nothing moves me like film does.

Agreed :up:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I heard filming is in August in Vancouver but whether thats the first place they film, I'm unsure.

If they're starting in August, I really hope Snyder brings maybe a teaser poster and the first shot of Cavill as Superman to Comic-Con. It's near the end of July, so it's possible.

[Doctor Jones]

I think we all know this trailer is going to be ****ing awesome.

Hopefully it will get people interested in Superman again. Then again, when the women see Cavill on the big screen they will be already won over.

[DorkyFresh]

If they're starting in August, I really hope Snyder brings maybe a teaser poster and the first shot of Cavill as Superman to Comic-Con. It's near the end of July, so it's possible.
releasing official images before filming even starts is unheard of as far as i know. don't get your hopes up. i think the most that could happen at CC as far as this movie is concerned is introducing the stars at the panel.

[BigThor]

The fights scenes in 300 and Watchmen were awesome.

I think he's perfect for Superman :up: here's hoping he won't let us down. I certainly have more faith in him than Singer who I don't think is very good at directing action scenes. His X-Men movies are very underwhelming if you ask me.

Yeah he's kind of like Jon Favreau in that aspect, because everything in Iron Man was amazing except the action sequences...lol

[Nathan]

Hopefully this Movie will actually be fun. And I'm hoping for a villain that can duke it out with Superman.

[Saint]

I think we all know this trailer is going to be ****ing awesome.

It's gonna be hard to top the teaser for Superman Returns. Regardless of how the film turned out, that was one of the best teasers ever.

[dark_b]

a Zack Snyder Superman full trailer is going to be kickass. everyone will talk about it.

[roach]

It's gonna be hard to top the teaser for Superman Returns. Regardless of how the film turned out, that was one of the best teasers ever.

You know I had someone tell me this very same thing yesterday

[GoblinWhirlwind]

releasing official images before filming even starts is unheard of as far as i know. don't get your hopes up. i think the most that could happen at CC as far as this movie is concerned is introducing the stars at the panel.

Yeah, I'm not counting on it, I just can't wait to see something. Funny being so impatient when the movie isn't even out until the end of next year..

[BH/HHH]

a Zack Snyder Superman full trailer is going to be kickass. everyone will talk about it.

Definitely :up: the trailer has to be right

[craigdbfan]

Yeah, I'm not counting on it, I just can't wait to see something. Funny being so impatient when the movie isn't even out until the end of next year..

I think its very possible we'll get a poster with the iconic Superman logo probably.

But that's about it.

[BH/HHH]

http://pics.livejournal.com/uadlika/pic/0002ge2r

I'd love to see something like the top two images

[DorkyFresh]

i have a lot of confidence in Snyder but there's one thing that concerns me...if he can handle humor. the only kind of humor i've known him to show is dark humor (Dawn of the Dead, King Leonidas's twisted humor, Dr. Manhattan sex scene from Watchmen)...but what about lighthearted humor? i was watching Star Trek the other day and couldn't help but feel that a large part of why that movie was so successful was because of the lighthearted humor. we all know that Superman is not a dark hero. he's colorful and warm.........i'm hoping that Snyder realizes this and proves my concerns wrong.

[Stephen K. Hone]

http://pics.livejournal.com/uadlika/pic/0002ge2r

I'd love to see something like the top two images



Yeah if the costume could look like that I'd be very happy.

[Micah12345]

i have a lot of confidence in Snyder but there's one thing that concerns me...if he can handle humor. the only kind of humor i've known him to show is dark humor (Dawn of the Dead, King Leonidas's twisted humor, Dr. Manhattan sex scene from Watchmen)...but what about lighthearted humor? i was watching Star Trek the other day and couldn't help but feel that a large part of why that movie was so successful was because of the lighthearted humor. we all know that Superman is not a dark hero. he's colorful and warm.........i'm hoping that Snyder realizes this and proves my concerns wrong.

goyer's writing the script, and he's pretty good at humor.

[Micah12345]

DC really needs to make jim lee draw more comics and do less not-drawing-comics.

[KRIM]

i have a lot of confidence in Snyder but there's one thing that concerns me...if he can handle humor. the only kind of humor i've known him to show is dark humor (Dawn of the Dead, King Leonidas's twisted humor, Dr. Manhattan sex scene from Watchmen)...but what about lighthearted humor? i was watching Star Trek the other day and couldn't help but feel that a large part of why that movie was so successful was because of the lighthearted humor. we all know that Superman is not a dark hero. he's colorful and warm.........i'm hoping that Snyder realizes this and proves my concerns wrong.
Less to do with Snyder, and more so with the script.

[DorkyFresh]

i suppose Goyer's writing will help it, but there's also working with the actors to convey the proper expressions/timing etc. i'm just concerned, that's all.

i haven't seen Legends of the Guardians yet, but i guess that's supposed to be a more lighthearted, comedic movie...so at least he has SOME experience with lighthearted humor.

[BigThor]

Hopefully this Movie will actually be fun. And I'm hoping for a villain that can duke it out with Superman.

Hell yeah, someone like Metallo or Brainiac

[Project862006]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/02/05/zack-snyder-my-favorite-superman-artist-is/

[HighFivingMF]

Snyder likes Quitely. I like Snyder even more now. :yay:

[Motown Marvel]

its no surprise jim lee was one of his picks. im not too hot on lee, but he has his good qualities. it was nice to see him give credit to curt swan! i'd like to see that play some influence on the film.

[Doctor Jones]

That Lee image is so Snyder. I would love to see something like that.

[bgshw44]

very interesting, as we all know watchmen and 300 look like graphic novels come to life, i have a feeling the visuals for superman will look like a superman comic come to life, and knowing what he prefers gives us a good insight as to what we can expect to see.

[Kal-El.9859]

great article

[BH/HHH]

With Herocomplex posting the article with Snyder on his favourite Superman artist this makes me think maybe they've got a full interview with him that will reveal more on Sunday. Maybe thats there big Super scoop.

Also interesting how his favourite's Jim Lee and thats the one I think Cavill looks like.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Really surprised his favorite isn't Lee Bermejo, I've always thought the two would work perfectly together. I don't care a whole lot for Jim Lee's art anymore, but when he's not glowering around in shadows, his Superman DOES look pretty good.

I think this bodes well for a couple things concerning Cavill. Since Lee's Superman has the classic suit, hopefully Snyder will use that too. And since Snyder likes a more muscular and masculine Superman, I bet Cavill is already in training... he'll probably be putting on a lot of muscle mass. I think we'll finally get a powerful looking Superman :up:

[craigdbfan]

Yeah. Jim Lee's Superman is the bomb!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/68/77937-23180-jim-lee.jpg

[BH/HHH]

Jim Lee draws Superman the best in my opinion

How cool would this be as a moment in the film:

http://www.toymania.com/news/images/1104_dcd_supesposter.jpg

[Kal-El.9859]

picture is busted man

[BH/HHH]

Its working for me

[Kal-El.9859]

I don't see anything...bummer

[BH/HHH]

I don't see anything...bummer

Its just this image:

http://www.toymania.com/news/images/1104_dcd_supesposter.jpg

[The Shield]

yeah just a lil x

[Kal-El.9859]

even the link won't work for me...CRAP!

[BH/HHH]

even the link won't work for me...CRAP!

now?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NIQ85cMyXWo/SGTBzItvikI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Ap19GmTRNmc/s400/SupermanJimLee.jpg


Its only a Jim Lee drawing

[The Shield]

Yeah. Jim Lee's Superman is the bomb!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/68/77937-23180-jim-lee.jpg

The Best Ever!

[Kal-El.9859]

now?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NIQ85cMyXWo/SGTBzItvikI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Ap19GmTRNmc/s400/SupermanJimLee.jpg


Its only a Jim Lee drawing

BINGO...that would be sweet to see in the movie...and you know Snyder has had to have seen that!

[GoblinWhirlwind]

now?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NIQ85cMyXWo/SGTBzItvikI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Ap19GmTRNmc/s400/SupermanJimLee.jpg


Its only a Jim Lee drawing

Yeah dude, this would be awesome. I really hope Metropolis looks like that too. Just plain NYC or something doesn't cut it.

[BH/HHH]

I hope aswell this film has the Sun feeling if that makes sense, where everything looks bright and beautiful.

[craigdbfan]

Jim Lee draws Superman the best in my opinion

How cool would this be as a moment in the film:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NIQ85cMyXWo/SGTBzItvikI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Ap19GmTRNmc/s400/SupermanJimLee.jpg

Jim Lee is amazing.

The Best Ever!

Yeah he is defintely one of the best comic book artist out there. His X-Men drawings are the definitive X-Men for me personally.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Yeah I get what you mean, I was thinking the same thing the other day. If it's true that Birthright has some inspiration for the movie, I really hope they use the visual and color tone from that. Everything is so bright and bold :up:

[BH/HHH]

Yeah I get what you mean, I was thinking the same thing the other day. If it's true that Birthright has some inspiration for the movie, I really hope they use the visual and color tone from that. Everything is so bright and bold :up:

Agreed the look of Birthright was just stunning :up:

[roach]

now?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NIQ85cMyXWo/SGTBzItvikI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Ap19GmTRNmc/s400/SupermanJimLee.jpg


Its only a Jim Lee drawing

I imagine Superman standing there cape billowing in slo mo

[BH/HHH]

I imagine Superman standing there cape billowing in slo mo

Knowning Zack Snyder definitely :D

[Hurm...]

I imagine Superman standing there cape billowing in slo mo:applaud

[Astrodust]

I hope Snyder doesn't overdo the slow-mo but I hope he uses it when appropriate. For example, said Supervillain causes havok and destruction across a city. In the aftermath, throw in some slow-mo and sad music as the ashes are falling around the rubble and chaos.

[Project862006]

we definitely need cape slo mo like how he did for nite owl in watchmen

there is nothing wrong for having slo mo used for the cool factor

[craigdbfan]

I imagine Superman standing there cape billowing in slo mo

Knowning Zack Snyder definitely :D

He can defintely emit that sense of awe amazingly. Parts of Watchmen with Dr. Manhattans story shows how good he as at portraying god like imagery and making it stand out.

or Rorschach little monologue at the Comedians grave.

I think seeing as he is a Lee fan that moment of Superman standing like that will probably be in the film. How awesome.

[Kurosawa]

I do love Lee's Superman-heck, Jim Lee draws every superhero great-but the fact that Snyder mentioned Curt Swan gives me positive vibes. Maybe he does get Superman. Swan's art had an illustrative quality that sold Superman's world as real. He was especially good with facial expressions. Every one of his characters actually had their own face, as opposed to the generic <insert artist here> face that many artists use.

[GreenKToo]

Yeah. Jim Lee's Superman is the bomb!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/68/77937-23180-jim-lee.jpg
Man...Can't you just see our superman looking like that, hovering just outside of Lex-corp, while he and Lex have a stare off.

[craigdbfan]

I do love Lee's Superman-heck, Jim Lee draws every superhero great-but the fact that Snyder mentioned Curt Swan gives me positive vibes. Maybe he does get Superman. Swan's art had an illustrative quality that sold Superman's world as real. He was especially good with facial expressions. Every one of his characters actually had their own face, as opposed to the generic <insert artist here> face that many artists use.

I love the face of Swan's Superman and how he just drew him overall as well.

Swan's is pretty damn memorable in terms of looks.

http://theages.superman.nu/images/curt-1960.jpg

Man...Can't you just see our superman looking like that, hovering just outside of Lex-corp, while he and Lex have a stare off.

Along with Swan's the first images to pop up are that of Lee and Fleischer's Superman when thinking him.

[SuperDaniel]

The only thing I don't like about Swans Superman is that looks that he has a receding hairline sometimes.

[Nathan]

You know what I would love to see in the movie, this shot.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6537/supermanjimlee.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/supermanjimlee.jpg/)

Just for a moment, I want to see Superman really pissed off.

[GreenKToo]

yup, me too. eyes glowing red and smoking..

[Kurosawa]

The only thing I don't like about Swans Superman is that looks that he has a receding hairline sometimes.

Yeah, that was more in the 60's. By the 70's, which was really the best period of his art with the Swanderson team, Supes hair was less conservative:

http://superman.nu/origin/01.jpg

[GreenKToo]

I'm still floored we are actually getting another superman film...just trying to soak it in.

[I Am The Knight]

I don't care much for Lee's Superman, and I usually hate the Heat Vision pissed off Superman he draws. I prefer his Batman, altough I'm not crazy about that one, either.

BTW, that Swan art is fantastic, Kurosawa.

[Doctor Jones]

I'm mixed on Lee's art. He suits Superman, but not Batman. His Batman is way too muscular. Not to mention his Clark and Bruce look the same.

[Karelia]

You know what I would love to see in the movie, this shot.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6537/supermanjimlee.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/supermanjimlee.jpg/)

Just for a moment, I want to see Superman really pissed off.

I completely agree with this. I loved seeing scruffy Superman in the DCUO trailer. I was like :awesome: when they showed him. He at least needs one scene to get Super-Pissed. Tee-hee. :oldrazz:

Zack Snyder had some good picks as favorite Superman artists.

[Kurosawa]

I don't care much for Lee's Superman, and I usually hate the Heat Vision pissed off Superman he draws. I prefer his Batman, altough I'm not crazy about that one, either.

BTW, that Swan art is fantastic, Kurosawa.

I've always felt Jim Lee was a great pin-up artist but nothing special as a storyteller.

And yeah, Swan's art was really awesome in a very effortless (looking) way.

[Motown Marvel]

I'm mixed on Lee's art. He suits Superman, but not Batman. His Batman is way too muscular. Not to mention his Clark and Bruce look the same.

actually, all of his characters look the same. thats one thing i dont like about lee, the diversity in his characters are slim to none. also, his sequential storytelling is entirely mediocre. he does great pin-ups and backgrounds though. i think fanboys over rate his art entirely. he's a real mixed bag in my opinion.

EDIT: im glad me and kurosawa essentially posted the same thing at the same time.

[sf2]

I'm still floored we are actually getting another superman film...just trying to soak it in.
:). ya, getting hype too early isn't good. the end of 2012 is far away.

[BigThor]

:). ya, getting hype too early isn't good. the end of 2012 is far away.

Green Lantern & Thor are the closest things to Superman you're gonna get this year. I just hope they pick a good villian or
"villains" for the new Superman flick since they've already picked a good Superman :supes:.

I know the wait is very hard, trust me Thor's my favorite superhero...I should know all about "waiting" :) (lol).

[BH/HHH]

Its funny how Snyder's favourite (well joint top favourite :p) Superman is Jim Lee's cayse thats the one I feel Cavill most represents.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/toberaw/henrycavillsupermanclarfg5.jpg

[craigdbfan]

Aside from Cavill having somewhat larger set eyes I do agree that they do share semblance.

[BigThor]

Aside from Cavill having somewhat larger set eyes I do agree that they do share semblance.

I think Cavill just has his eyes open wider than Superman does in his picture.

I can definately see the resemblance

[the amazing fro]

I'm mixed on Lee's art. He suits Superman, but not Batman. His Batman is way too muscular. Not to mention his Clark and Bruce look the same.

I agree. I remember reading a Jim lee illustrated story when I was younger that had a scene where Bruce and Clark are together talking (I think it was hush) and I had absolutely no idea who was who.

He's the same as Steve Dillon, a great artist but every character's face looks identical (so if they have the same hair and build you are screwed).

[BH/HHH]

I think Cavill just has his eyes open wider than Superman does in his picture.

I can definately see the resemblance

Indeed its there :up:

[craigdbfan]

Regardless I find Cavill incredibly similar to a lot of Superman interpretations. His features were designed to one day play the role of SM.

This is an example of fan casting gone incredibly right. Sure it was Snyder/Nolan's decision on picking him but I'm sure those dedicated fans had influence.

I'll be honest and say that I didn't mind Cavill but I was interested in other actors but now that its happened its surreally just feels completely right. If that made any sense.

[BH/HHH]

Regardless I find Cavill incredibly similar to a lot of Superman interpretations. His features were designed to one day play the role of SM.

This is an example of fan casting gone incredibly right. Sure it was Snyder/Nolan's decision on picking him but I'm sure those dedicated fans had influence.

I'll be honest and say that I didn't mind Cavill but I was interested in other actors but now that its happened its surreally just feels completely right. If that made any sense.

Nah it makes sense, sometimes when something happens it opens your eyes.

[FlawlessVictory]

Kevin Smith Goes Fanboy For Zack Snyder's 'Superman' Reboot (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/10/kevin-smith-zack-snyder-superman-reboot/)

Posted 19 hrs ago by Rick Marshall (http://splashpage.mtv.com/author/rickmarshall/) in DC Comics (http://splashpage.mtv.com/category/dc-comics/)

When it comes to Zack Snyder (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/zack-snyder/)'s upcoming reboot of the "Superman" movie franchise (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/superman), the rumor mill has been turning at a furious pace lately. We've had actors' names thrown around (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/02/kristen-stewart-lois-lane-superman-reboot/), casting rumors reported (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/04/superman-reboot-lois-lane/) and debunked (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/06/diane-kruger-denies-superman-casting-rumor/) in the space of a day, and lots of uncertainty about which characters from the Man of Steel's history (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/04/superman-reboot-lois-lane/) will actually appear in the film.

When comics-friendly filmmaker and writer Kevin Smith (http://splashpage.mtv.com/tag/kevin-smith) dropped by the newsroom earlier this week for our live, streaming Q&A, we made sure to ask him what he thinks of all the Superman movie buzz.

"I love it," Smith told MTV News. "Zack Snyder is a fantastic director. He's a true director, put on this Earth to direct film 'til the day he dies."

"I love everything he's done so far, even that f---ing owl movie made me cry," he laughed. "I'm a big fanboy for Zack."

Smith wasn't done there with his praise for the "300" filmmaker, either.

"In terms of studio filmmakers, him, [Christopher] Nolan, [David] Fincher, they don't execute, they elevate," he said. "They do something that in a million years I could never do — take someone else's script and make it their own."

As for the rumor that there will be another female lead in the film — one that isn't Lois Lane — Smith indicated that some of the rumors don't make a lot of sense in the comics world at this point, but he's in favor of more actresses in the film.

"I'm all for that," he smiled. "As many women as possible!"
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/02/10/kevin-smith-zack-snyder-superman-reboot/

[The Shield]

I like hearing about how much respect and admiration Zack receives from his peers... Good for him.

Btw I just watched the new Sucker Punch trailer and I started laughing because I noticed how much slo-mo was in it hahaha Damn this guy has a serious hard-on for it! But I wouldn't have paid much attention to it had it not been for everyone here bringing it up... Crap! sometimes coming in here has Bad side effects :csad:

[JAK®]

I like hearing about how much respect and admiration Zack receives from his peers... Good for him.

Btw I just watched the new Sucker Punch trailer and I started laughing because I noticed how much slo-mo was in it hahaha Damn this guy has a serious hard-on for it! But I wouldn't have paid much attention to it had it not been for everyone here bringing it up... Crap! sometimes coming in here has Bad side effects :csad:
The trailers exaggerate the slow-mo, the Watchmen trailers had a lot of slow motion that wasn't in the movie. And seeing them all put together really makes it look bad, but you don't notice when you watch his films (except for 300)

[Micah12345]

I didn't really even notice the slo-mo in his movies until people started complaining about it.

[charl_huntress]

Too scared to comment...but I guess it's time to read the threads.

[dark_b]

I didn't really even notice the slo-mo in his movies until people started complaining about it.

how can you not notice slo-mo in SNyders movies?

[Micah12345]

Didn't bother me, didn't seem out of the ordinary, was busy noticing other things. I still don't really hate it or see why it's a big deal.

[The Shield]

The trailers exaggerate the slow-mo, the Watchmen trailers had a lot of slow motion that wasn't in the movie. And seeing them all put together really makes it look bad, but you don't notice when you watch his films (except for 300)

Ok that helps put my mind at ease to some degree. And maybe I'll be so into the movie that I won't be looking at it like a fat ZIT on my girl-friends nose lol :doh:

[Rust]

Just read an old article about Singer's sequel to SR. I've read it before and while I'm glad they're doing a reboot, I did like some of what I read.

I liked the part about the kryptonian stranger and how he located Earth via that Krypton II island Superman hurled into space in the original. I like how he's welcomed and he and Superman having discussions about how to deal with Earth's imperfect state and how they ultimately go against each other over it. Of course, then we slowly learn that the stranger is in fact Brainiac and then all hell breaks loose.

I really like the way Brainiac is a stranger at first and comes off as a second savior and not a full on villain from the get go. It read like there could potentially be a huge overall story about the 2 very different kryptonians with mankind serving as a backdrop. 2 different ideals if you will, like Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul.

I wouldnt mind a setup like that in Snyder's version. A bigger connection between hero and villain, and ultimately a more nuanced villain and not a card-board one. Of course, we might get ZOD and co. instead of Brainiac here and I could live with that too.

[Doctor Jones]

Wait, wasn't Doomsday or Darksied the villain in Singer's sequel? I don't remember Braniac.

EDIT: Nevermind, read it.

[sf2]

Just read an old article about Singer's sequel to SR. I've read it before and while I'm glad they're doing a reboot, I did like some of what I read.

I liked the part about the kryptonian stranger and how he located Earth via that Krypton II island Superman hurled into space in the original. I like how he's welcomed and he and Superman having discussions about how to deal with Earth's imperfect state and how they ultimately go against each other over it. Of course, then we slowly learn that the stranger is in fact Brainiac and then all hell breaks loose.

I really like the way Brainiac is a stranger at first and comes off as a second savior and not a full on villain from the get go. It read like there could potentially be a huge overall story about the 2 very different kryptonians with mankind serving as a backdrop. 2 different ideals if you will, like Bruce Wayne and Ra's Al Ghul.

I wouldnt mind a setup like that in Snyder's version. A bigger connection between hero and villain, and ultimately a more nuanced villain and not a card-board one. Of course, we might get ZOD and co. instead of Brainiac here and I could live with that too.

i thought it was awful, especially he played again the semi-god angle on superman (which makes him so un-relateable). the worst part is the fighting between him and his son in the end. (the so-called climate)(the melodrama again - should or shouldn't i kill my son... i have to because he has become a threat to the world)
i almost wanna snap him neck! :mad:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I read a description a while back for... Ratner's Superman? I think that's who it was.

Krypton was never destroyed and Clark was raised to hate and fear his powers, leading to a horribly insecure adult Clark.

All I can say is thank the Maker that slop was never made.

[Sub-Zero]

why do i have a feeling we'll see a villain we've already seen again?

[Parker Wayne]

Because you're insecure :oldrazz:

[Alonsovich]

I read a description a while back for... Ratner's Superman? I think that's who it was.

Krypton was never destroyed and Clark was raised to hate and fear his powers, leading to a horribly insecure adult Clark.

All I can say is thank the Maker that slop was never made.

False. The Ratner 2nd draft had Krypton blown up except for Kandor and was pretty much traditional Clark Kent/Superman. In fact Singer ripped off half of his script to make Returns (which wasn't AT ALL an "original idea" or "blessed by Donner" but just a mish-mash of JJ Abrams' trilogy pitch with some 70s nostalgia thrown in).

[GoblinWhirlwind]

False. The Ratner 2nd draft had Krypton blown up except for Kandor and was pretty much traditional Clark Kent/Superman. In fact Singer ripped off half of his script to make Returns (which wasn't AT ALL an "original idea" or "blessed by Donner" but just a mish-mash of JJ Abrams' trilogy pitch with some 70s nostalgia thrown in).

Not false... as I said I wasn't sure it was Ratner. I was browsing through an old copy of EW that highlighted SR, and it listed all the failed movie attempts, and that WAS one of them.

[HighFivingMF]

Abrams pitched a trilogy?

[Alonsovich]

Not false... as I said I wasn't sure it was Ratner. I was browsing through an old copy of EW that highlighted SR, and it listed all the failed movie attempts, and that WAS one of them.

False. That's the JJ Abrams 1st draft that was done under McG. McG then went to make Charlie's Angels 2 and Ratner was hired, who ordered heavy re-writes. The first Ratner script was actually Abrams' 2nd draft that I just mentioned, the problem is that 1st draft actually leaked to AICN when Ratner was onboard and it was assumed (and still is wrongly) it was his script, when it wasn't at all. After the Bomer/Fraser/Hartnett casting fiasco Ratner was fired and McG hired again.

[Alonsovich]

Abrams pitched a trilogy?

Yes he did. His script even mentions the roles some characters will have in subsequent films.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Okay, I don't care WHO had the script, it was s***. That's all I'm saying.

[Alonsovich]

Okay, I don't care WHO had the script, it was s***. That's all I'm saying.

Have you actually read it?

[Parker Wayne]

I read it, and it was pretty bad. It makes me glad Returns was made by comparison.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Have you actually read it?

Did you actually read what I typed? I said I read the description in a magazine.

Reading about a horribly insecure Clark Kent was enough for me.

[Alonsovich]

I read it, and it was pretty bad. It makes me glad Returns was made by comparison.

Returns is the same thing. Singer was actually ordered to make a film with certain elements in it. It's esentially a poor man's Abrams script without supervillains.

[HighFivingMF]

Yes he did. His script even mentions the roles some characters will have in subsequent films.
Awesome, I have a Superman script by Abrams on my computer. Haven't gotten around to reading it, but it says first draft and it's dated July 26, 2002. Would that be the one?

I also have one called Superman Reborn from 1992 by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates. And one called Superman: Man of Steel from 1998 by Alex Ford. You wouldn't happen to know anything about those, would you? I mean if they're any good?

[Alonsovich]

Did you actually read what I typed? I said I read the description in a magazine.

Reading about a horribly insecure Clark Kent was enough for me.

Did you actually care about what I typed too? I told you THAT is false. Clark was NEVER insecure in that film. Your magazine got it wrong.

[Alonsovich]

Awesome, I have a Superman script by Abrams on my computer. Haven't gotten around to reading it, but it says first draft and it's dated July 26, 2002. Would that be the one?

I also have one called Superman Reborn from 1992 by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates. And one called Superman: Man of Steel from 1998 by Alex Ford. You wouldn't happen to know anything about those, would you? I mean if they're any good?

There are actually two Abrams drafts online (1st and 2nd) and both have those mentions... they're just radically different in their content. The Ford script contains the most hilarious Lex Luthor I've ever read on script, and quite an impressive final fight with Metallo... there are downsides to it like the Wonder Woman cameo and little screen time for Lois (he hangs out mostly in Smallville with Lana). I don't think I read the Cary Bates one still.

[Project862006]

Snyder is not directing 300 sequel apprently guy ritchie is but this was interesting lol

One theory is that Warner Bros. needs Snyder to bear down on Superman stat: Insiders say the closely-guarded script for Superman suffers from major third-act problems, and the studio faces a ticking clock on that franchise, legally speaking; if a Superman film isn’t in production by 2013, Warner Bros. loses the rights to the entire Superman franchise and would have to re-license it from its original creators.

http://www.**************.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=30190

[DorkyFresh]

do not care for this rumor....especially since they start shooting this summer, therefor they'll be in production LOOOONG before 2013. hell...long before 2012.

[Sky Captain]

There are actually two Abrams drafts online (1st and 2nd) and both have those mentions... they're just radically different in their content. The Ford script contains the most hilarious Lex Luthor I've ever read on script, and quite an impressive final fight with Metallo... there are downsides to it like the Wonder Woman cameo and little screen time for Lois (he hangs out mostly in Smallville with Lana). I don't think I read the Cary Bates one still.

How would one go about receiving that 2nd Abrams draft....?

[Lighthouse]

Once again, David Goyer is the problem. :facepalm:

[craigdbfan]

Nothing Snyder can't brush up with the help of other more "elaborate" screenwriters than Goyer.

Goyer isn't bad but most of his stories/scripts need a lot of cleaning and polishing.

[HighFivingMF]

Once again, David Goyer is the problem. :facepalm:
Yeah, this rumor is Goyer's fault! That bastard!

And if there are only problems with the third act it's already about on par with Iron Man.

[Lighthouse]

I'm starting to get nervous now, because I believe the Sucker Punch info. I've often ignored early reports, but I'm finding that they are often true. Tron Legacy is the most recent example, and I remember mixed reports before Superman Returns, Hulk, and downright terrible ones before XO: Wolverine.

Nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am.

[Asgard]

Damn. You almost never get good results when you rush things.

[bgshw44]

is jonah nolan working on the script as well? i thought so but i never hear his name mentioned

[BenReilly]

is jonah nolan working on the script as well? i thought so but i never hear his name mentioned

No, Jonah's involvement was only rumored but never confirmed.

Goyer is the sole writer (as of now, at least) as stated by the press release that was issued for Cavill's casting:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110130005096/en/Henry-Cavill-Dual-Role-Clark-Kent-Superman

Charles Roven, Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Deborah Snyder are the producers of the film. The screenplay is being written by David S. Goyer based on a story by Goyer and Nolan. Thomas Tull and Lloyd Phillips are serving as executive producers.

[Motown Marvel]

goyer is a solid idea man, and good for a first draft, but there needs to be more competent writers to flesh out the ideas when it comes to subsequent drafts.

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, this rumor is Goyer's fault! That bastard!

And if there are only problems with the third act it's already about on par with Iron Man.


And Batman Begins/Dark Knight. But all three of those movies were great for the first 2/3rds before falling apart during their 3rd act. My concern with this Superman project is that the first 2/3rds won't be good enough to overcome the rumored 3rd act issues. If the movie is awesome for most of the running time, a mediocre climax can be forgiven. If it's average for most of the runtime, a mediocre climax can basically nuke the movie's quality/credibility. See Spider-Man 3 for a prominent example of this in the superhero genre.

[Parker Wayne]

I'd say BB/TDK are both debatable to whether they're bad but you're spot on with Iron Man. Both Iron Man films had mediocre scriptwriting.

[craigdbfan]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

[redfirebird2008]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

That's not saying much, haha.

[Ponco_87]

Iron man had a pretty weak third act, but that didn't hurt the movie overall because of RDJ's great performance

[BH/HHH]

Begins IMO had a stronger third act than TDK did.

I agree, I wouldnt even say Begins had any third act problems. The Dark Knights thirdact for me I would have cut out that boat plot was pointless in my opinion.

[Motown Marvel]

i would have replaced the boat plot with something much stronger....that whole idea was kinda dumb. but i would have taken out two-face's arc completely, and would have left it as a set up for him as a major role in the third film.

[rashad]

^Thankfully you didn't have the power to.

[EliteF50]

^Thankfully you didn't have the power to.

I disagree.

[Kal-El.9859]

I liked the boat plot but this is Superman...not Batman.

[Parker Wayne]

I felt the boat plot was good and it worked. It reinforced that everyone wasn't as dark or cynical as the Joker believed. I was on the edge of my seat during the boat scenes. If anything, the problem was that Nolan couldn't do reshoots for obvious reasons.

[Visceral]

And Batman Begins/Dark Knight. But all three of those movies were great for the first 2/3rds before really getting good their 3rd act. .

Fixed.:dry:

[BH/HHH]

Seeing as recently we've had trailers for comic book movies showing how to do it: Thor, Captain America and how not to do it: X-Men: First Class its got me thinking one thing they have to do is get that first trailer right. Now looking back on the trailers for Batman Begins I remember the teaser trailer been alright nothing amazing but the teaser trailer for the Dark Knight was pretty average well visually anyway. Does anyone think we'll get like an early teaser that doesnt really reveal much i.e. the Begins teaser or do you think we'll just get a trailer when theres been a fair amount of footage filmed?

[Rust]

Hopefully the latter. I dont wanna see a half-assed teaser with no actual footage. Again, WB has to slam it in people's faces this time. But still, doesnt mean they have to spoil it either.
But I wouldnt mind a different angle on a teaser. Something that makes you go, "what the hell...?"... "looks crazy!"... "Aaah, it's Superman!"

[BH/HHH]

Hopefully the latter. I dont wanna see a half-assed teaser with no actual footage. Again, WB has to slam it in people's faces this time. But still, doesnt mean they have to spoil it either.
But I wouldnt mind a different angle on a teaser. Something that makes you go, "what the hell...?"... "looks crazy!"... "Aaah, it's Superman!"

To be honest I'd be ok with a teaser trailer like the BB one just as an early thing to reveal him in the costume plsu then it gets it out there that this film is coming.

Yeah I get you so it doesnt quite seem like a Superman film and then they hit you with it. That sounds a good idea :up:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

To be honest I'd be ok with a teaser trailer like the BB one just as an early thing to reveal him in the costume plsu then it gets it out there that this film is coming.

Yeah I get you so it doesnt quite seem like a Superman film and then they hit you with it. That sounds a good idea :up:

I'd love something like that first Spidey teaser with the Twin Towers, something completely unexpected. A huge robbery or natural disaster sequence, something that makes you wonder just what it is... ending with Cavill stepping up for an epic shirtrip, and that's all you see of Superman.

I'd love if they brought back "This looks like a job for..." as the tagline too.

[BH/HHH]

I'd love something like that first Spidey teaser with the Twin Towers, something completely unexpected. A huge robbery or natural disaster sequence, something that makes you wonder just what it is... ending with Cavill stepping up for an epic shirtrip, and that's all you see of Superman.

I'd love if they brought back "This looks like a job for..." as the tagline too.

Yeah I forgot about that teaser that was a really good teaser actually. I just think oy would be nice to have something even if its not footage made for the film just to get something out there as early as possible.

[Gabe99]

'Superman' Director Zack Snyder, Producer Wife Are a Package Deal (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/superman-director-zack-snyder-producer-159660)

You can't get one without the other: Superman director Zack Snyder and wife/producing partner Deborah Johnson are a bundle deal.

If a studio isn't willing to have his wife act as a producer on a project with him, "It's a deal breaker," the helmer tells the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/fashion/weddings/20UNIONS.html).

Snyder and Johnson, who have been married for six and a half years, are presidents and producers at Cruel & Unusual FIlms, based in Burbank, Calif. They recently cast British actor Henry Cavill for the coveted role of Clark Kent in Snyder's upcoming film, Superman: Man of Steel.

"Our relationship is husband and wife, director and producer," Snyder explains. "My wife is my best friend. I trust Debbie's taste and way of navigating the world."

Johnson chimed in: "Directors go away to create for eight months, and if your spouse isn't involved, it puts a lot of pressure on the marriage, because the director is having these intimate life experiences that you can't relate to."

Since they've been married, the duo has worked on 300, Watchmen, Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole and the upcoming Sucker Punch.

"The movies we make are polarizing," Johnson says. "Some people like it. Some people hate it. But I'm OK with it. As long as some people like it."

She also revealed that when they have an idea for a film or an intriguing script, they approach Warner Bros. first.

When asked what she thought of potential romances brewing on-set, she believed that if there was infidelity, "there's something wrong with the relationship. But if you're apart for several months, that definitely puts strain on the relationship."

Snyder's films aren't exactly of the romantic kind. While editing Dawn of the Dead, he remembered an instance when Johnson would share how bad the edits were. "It made our relationship stronger," he says.

"It's my job to get his point of view out, to help him develop the script, to be the liaison between the director and the studio. My job is to shelter Zack as much as possible," Johnson said.



From The New York Times:
Off Screen, a Long-Running Romance (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/fashion/weddings/20UNIONS.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1)

In quieter moments, at home, the Snyders read scripts aloud to each other. “That started when he’d read ‘Jonathan Livingston Seagull’ aloud,” Ms. Snyder said, referring to one of her husband’s favorite books, the Richard Bach story about the spiritually advanced sea gull. His favorite book, however, is “Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah,” also by Mr. Bach.

“I love Richard Bach, because I grew up as a Christian Scientist,” Mr. Snyder said. “A lot of beliefs of the metaphysical aspects of that religion, especially for me, as a kid, he illustrated in ‘Jonathan Livingston Seagull.’ Christian Science advocates the idea that the physical world is not real, and part of our journey is to transcend that reality through Christ-like living.”

Asked if he’s attempting to live like Christ — in Hollywood — Mr. Snyder laughed and said, “No.”

He then added, “But I enjoy the philosophy, of thinking about it.”

When compared with his Type-A wife, Mr. Snyder said that he’s the laid-back one, which he admitted can drive his spouse crazy. “I try not to be stressed out,” he said. “I let things slide; I don’t yell at anybody.”

Mr. Snyder said he’s been known to lack a certain assertiveness — something Ms. Snyder has been trying to change in him. For instance, when someone they’ve hired fails to live up to the couple’s expectations, Mr. Snyder said, he prefers to avoid confrontation and do the work himself. “It can be doing anything. It could be a bad gardener, and he’s not mowing the grass that great. I’ll just mow it myself.”

The close friends the Snyders like to spend time with are often the people they work with. When they are on location, usually in Canada, they rent a big house and share it with Celeste Coller, who is Mr. Snyder’s personal assistant and office manager, and her husband, Wesley, a producer and a close friend of Mr. Snyder’s.

The Snyders are now trying to determine where to house both of their families for the March 23 premiere of “Sucker Punch” in Los Angeles.

“My parents, sister and aunts are in New Jersey, and his sister, nephew, niece and dad are in Massachusetts, and they’re all coming,” Ms. Snyder said. “Some will be at hotels because we can’t fit everything.”

But that is just one plot point within the complex story that is their lives. “We’re starting on ‘Superman,’ and we’re trying to get two of the kids into high school, and one into college,” she added.

Might there be a seventh child? “Kids are not out of the question,” Ms. Snyder said by e-mail. “We shall see.”

[dark_b]

i guess its a trend. its very good for the paycheck. by forcing your wife on the movie and set you can spend time with her and she also gets payed money. of course Nolan's wife and SNyder's wife are not one of the best producers in hollywood but they get to do what everyone here dreams.

hey if it works why change it. WB made a lot of money with their movies.

[El Payaso]

Bringing your wife to the job? Mmmmmh, never a good idea.

[Doctor Jones]

For a director, it's better than not including her. If the wife is at another job or stays at home when you're away for months, depending on the production, it does put a strain on things.

To the female posters here. Am I right? I can't imagine why you would want to stay with someone who works more than spends time with you and family. That's why it's better if both are involved.

[El Payaso]

For a director, it's better than not including her. If the wife is at another job or stays at home when you're away for months, depending on the production, it does put a strain on things.

To the female posters here. Am I right? I can't imagine why you would want to stay with someone who works more than spends time with you and family. That's why it's better if both are involved.

As important as the marital issues are for spouses' personal lives, artistic decisions shouldn't be made on that basis.

[Project862006]

would you have restraint on the set of sucker punch

best she was there:awesome:
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/movie/suckerpunch/sucker_punch_1.jpg

[GoblinWhirlwind]

would you have restraint on the set of sucker punch

best she was there:awesome:


Lol... I would've gotten one look at Emily Browning

"Huh? What wife...?"

:hehe:

[FilmNerdJamie]

Sucker Punch Goes into Diabetic Coma with Eye-Candy on Trailer #3 (http://www.thinkmcflythink.com/movie-news/2011/2/22/sucker-punch-goes-into-diabetic-coma-with-eye-candy-on-trail.html)

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm sorry Jamie but I am still looking forward to SuckerPunch. I am actually not expecting a good movie and I do expect it to underperform at the boxoffice but I am still looking forward to it because of the visuals. If I end up hating it I have no one to blame but myself for seeing the film.

[Project862006]

^same boat i feel the action scenes look different and fresh and that alone is hooking me

[I Am The Knight]

Oh Yeah! Sucker Punch looks like crazy hella cool fun, like Harry Knowles would say. I'm so there.

[craigdbfan]

And damn sexy to boot.

It's so obvious that Zack loves anime with this movie. He's now made that very clear. :hehe:

[Lencho01]

Sucker Punch doesn't look like something I'd pay to see.

[I Am The Knight]

Would you pay to touch? :o

[Alonsovich]

Would you pay to touch? :o

:D :up:

[Jake Cassidy]

I really wanna see Sucker Punch. 5 hot chicks kicking arse. Who gives a **** about story? :woot:

[Jake Cassidy]

Lol... I would've gotten one look at Emily Browning

"Huh? What wife...?"

:hehe:


Dibs on Vanessa. :woot:

[elgaz]

Just watched the latest Sucker Punch trailer, if that's anything to go by then the visuals in the next Superman film will be amazing and will make Superman Returns look utterly plain and washed out.

[Dark Knight]

NewsFlash:

Sucker Punch isn't meant to be an over dramatic fluffed up Oscar caliber film. It's meant to be a visually kick ass, original film that is....get this...wait.....for.....it......FUN!

That's it.

[JAK®]

And besides, Snyder has already proved himself with Watchmen, which had great acting and direction.

[Lencho01]

Would you pay to touch? :o

Ha, I wouldn't have to pay...

[Project862006]

oh yes you would

[The Shield]

NewsFlash:

Sucker Punch isn't meant to be an over dramatic fluffed up Oscar caliber film. It's meant to be a visually kick ass, original film that is....get this...wait.....for.....it......FUN!

That's it.

Exactly! Why are comedies the only movie aloud to have that tag?? If a movie looks fun that's good enough for me. And Sucker Punch looks fun so I'm there. Plus I like that it looks like an art exhibit and I'm all for that!

[Doctor Jones]

Sucker Punch looks like vintage Snyder. What the hell is not to like about it? Hot chicks shooting machine guns. It's very basic.

I do hope if he works with his cinematographer he's been working with, he changes his style for Superman though.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I'm expecting some EPIC posters for Superman too.

[craigdbfan]

Larry Fong is magic and he can make a beautiful Superman movie.

Really not worried and hoping Snyder uses Fong. Don't see why he wouldn't as he's worked on every Snyder project since 300 (except for Gaahole).

Not worried about Fong in terms of what he'll deliver. I remember the "She thinks I'm a God" scene, I got total Superman vibes from that and when he destroys the tank.

Just the look of it all.

[JAK®]

Sucker Punch looks like vintage Snyder. What the hell is not to like about it? Hot chicks shooting machine guns. It's very basic.

I do hope if he works with his cinematographer he's been working with, he changes his style for Superman though.
He changed his style for Watchmen. Those strange colour schemes were lifted from the comic itself. Purples, oranges and greens; the original comic was noted for it's strange colour choices.

[EliteF50]

Sucker Punch looks like vintage Snyder. What the hell is not to like about it? Hot chicks shooting machine guns. It's very basic.

I do hope if he works with his cinematographer he's been working with, he changes his style for Superman though.

Fong is my favourite cinematographer and easily one of the best, I'm sure he knows what he's doing for SM.

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, I'm sure Snyder and him will know to change their style. I just don't want it all dark and grim looking. I know it's pretty obvious they would change it, but it's just one of those natural concerns.

[Sawyer]

Just watched the new Sucker Punch trailer.... HOLY. ****. I mean, really, the visuals on this new movie are bound to be so boner-inducing that it will more than make up for SR and, quite possibly, the two movies before that!

Two words: Visual! Orgy!

[I Am The Knight]

I'm your Boogie man, I'm your Boogie man...

Do what you want...

[Denny67]

Some interesting quotes from Snyder on what he prefers visually in Superman. Aparently he like the works of Jim Lee and Curt Swan.


“It’s funny, I have that stamp image — it’s him tearing open his jacket. Its got a retro vibe to it, it’s cool. That’s the background on my iPad. It’s Curt Swan and the way he draws that jawline, it is like Mt. Rushmore, totally, or like ‘The Incredibles.’ Swan is really good.”

http://denrick.eqwolf.com/Curt_Swan_Superman.jpg

“My taste level goes to the more, I guess, muscular Superman. The bigger, more muscular Superman, the way Jim draws him. Those tend to be the artists I like in comics. So Jim’s Superman, for sure. That’s not to say that’s how the movie will be, of course, but as far as the comics. It’s an interesting thing to think about though."

http://denrick.eqwolf.com/jimlee_superman.jpg

Source (http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/02/05/zack-snyder-my-favorite-superman-artist-is/)

Sounds like he is really giving some thought as how to deliver a hero worthy of the name Superman. If he can manage to pull off some of the comic elements that make Superman so cool and not shy away from the challenge; it is going to be a very exciting movie for all comic fans!

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Combined with the above post, and the fact that Cavill apparently commanded the room in Reeve's old costume, I'm expecting we'll get an amazing faithful Superman visually.

[sf2]

Combined with the above post, and the fact that Cavill apparently commanded the room in Reeve's old costume, I'm expecting we'll get an amazing faithful Superman visually.
fingers cross

[Dar]

"Superman’s the king daddy; he’s the s**t." :woot: Anybody get SciFi Now magazine?

http://www.**************.com/fansites/VoicesFromKrypton/news/?a=31167

[BH/HHH]

"You’ve got to keep in mind that they look at Superman as passé because that is the way he’s been approached in the movies,” says Snyder. “It’s not like the movies have done anything to fight that, so all I can say is that Chris [Nolan] and David [Goyer] address that in their story. I think the challenge is to make him relevant – figure out how we can make them care about him. That is the challenge.”

He believes a good part of meeting that challenge is the casting of Henry Cavill as the Man of Steel. “He just did a great job with the material that we had him try out, so it was a win-win situation,” he notes. “He’s definitely – without saying what our Superman is – it. He knows how to do what we needed him to do.”

As to the appeal of taking on the character, Snyder enthuses, “Superman’s the king daddy; he’s the ****. If you can make him work, in the end there’s nobody else in the superhero world. For me, Watchmen was the exact opposite of Superman in that now that I’ve deconstructed the superhero world — I tore the curtain down — maybe I’m the right guy to put it back up.”

Exciting and daunting as well is the notion that with this film he will become a part of a much bigger legacy.

“It’s like participating in the Olympics,” he smiles. “I know that’s a weird metaphor, but, you know, there is definitely a historical aspect that is beyond you. The character is bigger than you and you have to keep that in mind. And the character will continue when you’re done. I feel pretty good about that now.”

I especially loved the bit in bold, todays been pretty awesome for Superman stuff :D

[Project862006]

the king daddy great way to call him

better be on the poster lol

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Lol the king daddy.

We now have our movie title :hehe:

[JAK®]

"For me, Watchmen was the exact opposite of Superman in that now that I’ve deconstructed the superhero world — I tore the curtain down — maybe I’m the right guy to put it back up."

This is my favourite part. It demonstrates that Snyder isn't the one trick pony people say he is.

[I Am The Knight]

JAK...That avatar is disturbing me. It really is...

Um, anyway...That was a nice read on Snyder's Superman. He sure loves calling him The King Daddy.

[Lencho01]

Lol the king daddy.

We now have our movie title :hehe:

I'd actually be fine with that title.

Superman: The King Daddy

[sf2]

just watched the movie 'legend of the guardian"

wow.. it's awesome!!! visually stunning!!! the flying is just superb!!! and i don't know how to put it... soemhow...it is so macho!!! this movie should win some awards on visual and special effects!!!

wow. i can't imagine what he can do with superman! i can't wait any longer!!!

he is the guy, man!

[Project862006]

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/03/16/zack-snyder-wont-look-back-theres-been-no-other-superman-movies/?dlvrit=63378

“Literally, the one thing that everyone can start to think about is that we’re making a movie that finally goes with the approach that there’s been no other Superman movies,” Snyder said. “If you look at ‘Batman Begins,’ there’s that structure, there’s the canon that we know about and respect but on other hand there’s this approach that pre-supposes that there haven’t been any other movies. In every aspect of design and of story, the whole is very much from that perspective of respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies.”

On the approach to Superman's past: "Respect the canon but don't be a slave to the movies." When suggested that the 2006 film was looking too into the past, “Yeah, and we’re not afraid of that at all,” Snyder said. “Our Superman, he’s got things to figure out but he’s a physical cat.” On further casting Snyder would say only: “There’s more to come and I think it’s consistent in its … awesomeness.” “It’s been really great,” Snyder said of the collaboration so far. “Chris is awesome. He’s super-respectful but super-helpful, too. You can’t imagine a more generous [collaborator]…once he sort of got what I want to do with it, he was like, ‘OK,’ and once he said, ‘You know what, that’s awesome,’ now he’s 100%. If I say, ‘What do you think of this?’ he’s like, ‘That’s awesome,’ and then there’s a great give-and-take about it, a great conversation that we can have about it and making it better everyday. And by the way he’s hilarious, too.”

“Superman is the one constant in the universe,” Snyder said. “You know that if you do Superman right — or at least if you do him with respect — you know you end up with something great…. [but] in some ways [beyond] that is virgin territory. No one knows what that is. In some ways Superman is the most recognizable superhero on the planet but also the most unknown. Just what he can be? People have preconceived ideas about him but probably all of them are wrong.”

[Lead Cenobite]

Doesn't that article pretty much confirm that Costner is Jonathan now?

[Superman2007]

Loving everything I'm hearing from Snyder about Superman.
Perspective-wise he's exactly in the head-space that I think a Superman director needs to be in.

A great quote:

"In some ways Superman is the most recognizable superhero on the planet but also the most unknown. Just what he can be? People have preconceived ideas about him but probably all of them are wrong.”

-Zach Snyder

[I Am The Knight]

LOL, I can imagine Nolan sipping on his tea while a super-excited Snyder describes, in detail, the most hella-crazy action sequence this side of Krypton, and Nolan just going..."OK". Haha.

BTW, Snyder keeps on using "super". "Super" this, "Super" that. Is he doing that on purpose? Anyway, love the man. Some nice quotes on that article, especially at the end.

[AntMan]

LOL, I can imagine Nolan sipping on his tea while a super-excited Snyder describes, in detail, the most hella-crazy action sequence this side of Krypton, and Nolan just going..."OK". Haha.

BTW, Snyder keeps on using "super". "Super" this, "Super" that. Is he doing that on purpose? Anyway, love the man. Some nice quotes on that article, especially at the end.

No. If you watch or read interviews he's done in the past he uses the words super and cool all the time.

[The Shield]

That article was Just what the Doctor ordered and not a minute too soon! :cwink:

[Lencho01]

Hasn't he pretty much said all this before?

[craigdbfan]

No. If you watch or read interviews he's done in the past he uses the words super and cool all the time.

Absolutely right.

He loves those two words a lot that is for sure.

[SuperDaniel]

He also said in the article we're going to see the costume before they start shooting.

[GreenKToo]

It also sounds like nolan is, ah, ''super'' involved.

[Stephen K. Hone]

He also said in the article we're going to see the costume before they start shooting.


He also said (paraphrasing him) Superman is the most recognizable super hero in the world. That doesn't sound like he's going to mess with that recognizability if you ask me.

[GreenKToo]

IMO, the sooner they release some pics of the suit, the quicker folks fears will be calmed.

[Showtime]

Releasing the shots of the suit early on is more for forum dwellers and internet leaks then the general public.

[GreenKToo]

Honestly tho, knowing what a geek he is, i'm not worried about the suit at all.

[I Am The Knight]

No. If you watch or read interviews he's done in the past he uses the words super and cool all the time.

You're right. It just reads funny when he keeps on saying it when talking about Superman. It's almost like he's making puns. :oldrazz:

[craigdbfan]

He also said in the article we're going to see the costume before they start shooting.

Thats definitely a good thing. Really happy to read that. :up:

It also sounds like nolan is, ah, ''super'' involved.

:hehe:

He also said (paraphrasing him) Superman is the most recognizable super hero in the world. That doesn't sound like he's going to mess with that recognizability if you ask me.

Thats exactly what I got out of it too. This part also hints at it:

"In every aspect of design and of story, the whole thing is very much from that perspective of respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies."

[Showtime]

Honestly tho, knowing what a geek he is, i'm not worried about the suit at all.

I'm not either. They know what the complaints are.

[Stephen K. Hone]

I'm not either. They know what the complaints are.



Exactly. Snyder will want to please the true fans (with the costume) even to the point of trying to exceed their expectations.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Snyder seems like a cool guy but he has um an interesting personality. He constantly talks like that and says things like "rockstar" all of the time, I had a hard time listening the his commentary for Dawn of the Dead because...he talks like a 15 year old overly excited white-boy but he's in his 40's so it's um strange.

Anyway, I recently brought Watchmen and have recently watched my sister's copy of Dead and really liked it so I think there is talent there. Not a fan of his vocab but he does have talent. He could be bulls**ting but he is saying all of the right things right now. Respect what came before but don't be a slave to it and he always has to bring up that this movie will have more action.

[GreenKToo]

I'm not either. They know what the complaints are.
He already said who his favorite artists was, and its hard to imagine him giving us something that goes against what he himself said he likes. I think we get the classic suit, yet updated, trunks and all...

[Stephen K. Hone]

Snyder seems like a cool guy but he has um an interesting personality. He constantly talks like that and says things like "rockstar" all of the time, I had a hard time listening the his commentary for Dawn of the Dead because...he talks like a 15 year old overly excited white-boy but he's in his 40's so it's um strange.

That's why he is perfect for this genre, and also why I can totally relate to him. I want a talented Director who is completely geeked out to be doing this movie, and he certainly sounds that way.

[Stephen K. Hone]

He already said who his favorite artists was, and its hard to imagine him giving us something that goes against what he himself said he likes. I think we get the classic suit, yet updated, trunks and all...





Cool, that sounds awesome, and absolutely super lol.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That's why he is perfect for this genre, and also why I can totally relate to him. I want a talented Director who is completely geeked out to be doing this movie, and he certainly sounds that way.
I use quite a bit of slang myself and I'm a fun gal but I perfer men not act too much like an adolescent. Just my preference. It's fine that he's geeked out but I like that he didn't seem to be too big a fan of the character before getting the gig. Big fan doesn't equal good Superhero movie.

I like him and think that he is capable of delivering the Superman movie we (those of us who didn't like Returns ofcourse) should have gotten back in 06.

[GreenKToo]

I can honestly say I am way more excited with snyder at this point, than I was with singer at the same point.

[Showtime]

It's funny. I am much less excited this time around, I am still geeked up, it just doesn't feel the same. I think it is because last time around we didn't have a Superman flick in so long. It's just different this time. Once I see Cavill in the suit though, my brain might overload.