Script Discussion thread SPOILERS INSIDE

[Vartha]

discuss!:woot:

[JDym]

I'm concerned with how Eric comes off. He seems like a fool compared to the much younger Jane (that's not to say that younger people can't excel in their field). It's not as if Eric is an important character or in the mythology or anything, but it seems his only function is to bounce off Jane.

I also didn't like the 'he would be proud' stuff at the beginning. What's the need to parallel father issues (i.e.- living up to a fathers status) with Thor and Odin? Plus, this gets completely dropped after that line.

My biggest concerns, though, are Darcy and the randomness of the Marvel Universe references. Hopefully Clint comes off a bit more badass than it reads.

[Vartha]

yes the idea is to not have to apply the spoiler tags but to be safe we better just in case unless told other wise JDym. lol

[Vartha]

PERSONALLY I like how they

Bring Donald Blake into the movie lol. Thor wearing Jane's old Boy Friend Donald Blake's clothes. :D the name tag was a plus. heh

[Chewy]

I agree that Darcy's lines as written probably won't all work and I hope that Kat Dennings ad-libbed appropriately.

Erik seems to be a rework of the character Eiric from the old Protosevich drafts. He didn't really come off as a fool to me, just less technology-savvy than Jane.

[Vartha]

I'm concerned with how Eric comes off. He seems like a fool compared to the much younger Jane (that's not to say that younger people can't excel in their field). It's not as if Eric is an important character or in the mythology or anything, but it seems his only function is to bounce off Jane.

I also didn't like the 'he would be proud' stuff at the beginning. What's the need to parallel father issues (i.e.- living up to a fathers status) with Thor and Odin? Plus, this gets completely dropped after that line.

My biggest concerns, though, are Darcy and the randomness of the Marvel Universe references. Hopefully Clint comes off a bit more badass than it reads.

Well Jane being the younger might have better ideas than Eric, and it seems that Eric is Jane's Stablizer so to speak. I'm sure he won't be a clown.

[TheCorpulent1]

Guys, you don't have to spoiler-tag anything from the script in here.

[Vartha]

Guys, you don't have to spoiler-tag anything from the script in here.
ok Thanks Corpy

[JDym]

I guess if we were asking for the script or offering the script it'd be troublesome, but mentioning these things won't bring down Paramount wrath?

[JDym]

I wonder what clothes Thor wears before he gets hit by the car the first time? (as in not the hospital scrubs from the trailer, and also likely not his outfit thats parts are stripped of by Odin)

i think the writer perfectly introduced and utilized Sif and The Warriors Three to the audience. I wish Loki was given more ala the 2007 draft, but I think Tom will knock it out of the park regardless

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, requesting the script or offering or posting links to it are no-nos. You'd probably want to avoid even posting direct quotes from it. But discussing its contents is fine.

[Avengers-Report]

Was the script leaked or are we talking about what we know?

[TheCorpulent1]

It was leaked. Some people read it before it was taken down and have been talking about spoilers from it in various other threads, but not everyone necessarily wants to be spoiled to that extent. So this thread is for the people who've read the script or don't mind knowing details from pretty much the entire movie based on the script.

[Figs]

How much time does Hopkins get in this film? I'm wondering because of how long he may be in sleep mode.

[JDym]

As a big fan of Idris Elba (Stringer, yo!), I would've loved to see more Heimdall, but he does serve a BIG purpose in the story.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but post his...run in with a certain trickster...does he just heal on his own and show up fine in the end?

[Vartha]

I wonder what clothes Thor wears before he gets hit by the car the first time? (as in not the hospital scrubs from the trailer, and also likely not his outfit thats parts are stripped of by Odin)

i think the writer perfectly introduced and utilized Sif and The Warriors Three to the audience. I wish Loki was given more ala the 2007 draft, but I think Tom will knock it out of the park regardless
Well tattered and burned remnants of cloths

[Chewy]

How much time does Hopkins get in this film? I'm wondering because of how long he may be in sleep mode.
A good amount. A couple of scenes fewer than Loki.

[Vartha]

A good amount. A couple of scenes fewer than Loki.
Can't wait to see those effects that show him needing to Odinsleep. They sound cool.

[JDym]

I like how early on they are introduced. Probably will cause a few audience members to go "uh, what's going on with his hands..."

[Chewy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but post his...run in with a certain trickster...does he just heal on his own and show up fine in the end?
Didn't Thor tell Sif and the Warriors Three to bring Heimdall to the healing chamber while he went to go face Loki?

[Vartha]

Didn't Thor tell Sif and the Warriors Three to bring Heimdall to the healing chamber while he went to go face Loki?
Thor tells them to get Heimdall to the healing room.

[BigThor]

I think the writer perfectly introduced and utilized Sif and The Warriors Three to the audience. I wish Loki was given more ala the 2007 draft, but I think Tom will knock it out of the park regardless

What's the difference between the 2011 script version of Loki and the 2007 draft?

[Vartha]

Well he found out a bit sooner that he was a Frost giant in the 2007 draft and that basically turned him into a loving brother to the Trickster.
This version shows where Loki still loves Thor he still has jealous tendencies before even finding out about being a frost giant.

[MikeFrost]

He likes being deceptful from the start. One thing that I don't like is how easly the Warriors Three and Sif discover that Loki is the culprit from the initial attack.

I mean, they could had it pan out like a master plot-driving plan and we'd only find out in the end. It would bring about more gravitas to Loki's character if he's the ultimate Xanatos Gambit instead of just being a plotter that gets exposed that quickly.

Still, I liked his motivation of wanting to end the Giant's threat once and for all so that he gains Odin's respect, instead of simply wanting revenge on Odin for not telling him he's adopted. I just don't think that Thor should be the one not wanting to fight Loki at the end. I'd prefer it if it panned out more a bit like Watchmen's Ozymandias:

An act of peace through a very questionable extermination.

[BigThor]

Well he found out a bit sooner that he was a Frost giant in the 2007 draft and that basically turned him into a loving brother to the Trickster.
This version shows where Loki still loves Thor he still has jealous tendencies before even finding out about being a frost giant.

Ok thanks for the info, after hearing this I seem like the 2011 version of Loki more than the one from the 2007 draft.

[Avengers-Report]

To someone that has read the script, if you know any cameos of other Superhero, please post or PM me what they are!

[Figs]

Now that I think about it. Who in the hell is that goblin/lizard looking guy in the comic-con footage???

[Chewy]

@Figs: If you're talking about the blue guy with red eyes, one of the Frost Giants. Laufey, probably.

@AirUpThere: Cameos - Hawkeye is in a scene, Pym is referenced, Banner is referenced, HYDRA is referenced, Stan Lee is a truck driver (referred to as Stan Lee in the script), Jasper Sitwell is in a scene

[Vartha]

AND JMS is supposed to be in a scene to lift the hammer in the crater too

[R_Hythlodeus]

To someone that has read the script, if you know any cameos of other Superhero, please post or PM me what they are!

I haven't read the script (yet) but afak there are mentions of banner & pym and clint barton/hawkeye has a brief scene as shield agent.

[BigThor]

Speaking of which, I hope that scene with the Destroyer vs the Frost Giants is a cool as it sounds. So it seems like we're up to 6 fights scenes now :)

1) Destroyer vs Frost Giants
2) Thor & co. vs Frost Giants
3) Thor vs Shield Agents
4) Warriors Three vs Destroyer
5) Thor vs Destroyer
6) Thor vs Loki

[Vartha]

That sounds about right BT. :D
Thor's got a few extra characters to play over either IM films or TIH. You forgot one but's it's not really a fight, Loki with the Casket vs Heimdall.

[Ipodman]

@Figs: If you're talking about the blue guy with red eyes, one of the Frost Giants. Laufey, probably.

@AirUpThere: Cameos - Hawkeye is in a scene, Pym is referenced, Banner is referenced, HYDRA is referenced, Stan Lee is a truck driver (referred to as Stan Lee in the script), Jasper Sitwell is in a scene

No Samuel L Jackson / Nick Fury? :huh:

[Vartha]

No Samuel L Jackson / Nick Fury? :huh:
nope

[BigThor]

That sounds about right BT. :D
Thor's got a few extra characters to play over either IM films or TIH. You forgot one but's it's not really a fight, Loki with the Casket vs Heimdall.

Yeah I thought about including that scene but I remember you told me that it wasn't really a fight.

It does count as an "action scene" though :up: :up:

[steintym]

Can't wait to see those effects that show him needing to Odinsleep. They sound cool.


Can you give a brief description of what goes down when he needs to Odinsleep?

[steintym]

Speaking of which, I hope that scene with the Destroyer vs the Frost Giants is a cool as it sounds. So it seems like we're up to 6 fights scenes now :)

1) Destroyer vs Frost Giants
2) Thor & co. vs Frost Giants
3) Thor vs Shield Agents
4) Warriors Three vs Destroyer
5) Thor vs Destroyer
6) Thor vs Loki


That's awesome. This movie sounds packed.

[Vartha]

Can you give a brief description of what goes down when he needs to Odinsleep?
The way it's described is Odin's hand begins to shake early on like it out of synch leaving a trail, and Odin has to concentrate to phase it back. It get's worse until he falls into the odinsleep.

[Stringer]

What happens with Hawkeye's cameo?

[herolee10]

Can someone explain to me on what this "odinsleep" is all about and why Odin needs to go through that phase? How vulnerable is he when he does go through it and normally, how long is it known to last?

[BigThor]

That's awesome. This movie sounds packed.
Why yes, it sure does and I hope it will be :up::thor: :up:

Can someone explain to me on what this "odinsleep" is all about and why Odin needs to go through that phase? How vulnerable is he when he does go through it and normally, how long is it known to last?

It's because he's so powerful that once a year he has to take the "Odin sleep" to replenish his strength. It usually last between a day and a week depending on the writer.

[BigThor]

Double post

[lixdexia]

so, is the casket the green thing loki was reaching for in the comiccon footage? and is anyone else hoping they ditched the blue skin thing for loki?

[Chewy]

Yeah, that's the casket; that scene looks to be when he first picked it up and Odin revealed to him his heritage.

[Avengers-Report]

Speaking of which, I hope that scene with the Destroyer vs the Frost Giants is a cool as it sounds. So it seems like we're up to 6 fights scenes now :)

1) Destroyer vs Frost Giants
2) Thor & co. vs Frost Giants
3) Thor vs Shield Agents
4) Warriors Three vs Destroyer
5) Thor vs Destroyer
6) Thor vs Loki

Sounds like a lot for one movie...PERFECT!

[BigThor]

Sounds like a lot for one movie...PERFECT!

Well it is a film about Thor, who's character revolve around his race's warrior nature. It sounds perfect to me too :)

[BigThor]

Double post

[Vartha]

Can someone explain to me on what this "odinsleep" is all about and why Odin needs to go through that phase? How vulnerable is he when he does go through it and normally, how long is it known to last?
The LENGTH of the Odinsleep depends on what Odin has done with the Odinforce. If it's something very heavy duty he can be in an Odinsleep longer.
Think of Odin as a rechargeable battery basically. How long he's asleep depends on what he's done during the year.

[kaijunexus]

Could we maybe just get a general outline/synopsis of the script, complete with cameos and such?

[marvelrobbins]

For those who have seen the script what Is the relationship between Thor
and Sif?Are they Involved before he Is banished to Earth and he falls for
Jane Foster/Or Is she just warrior who he fights with with any relationship a possable devolpment In a sequel.

[lixdexia]

the latter

[ddddeeee]

How is the romance between Jane and Thor? That's probably my biggest worry right now.

[marvelrobbins]

the latter

Thanks.With natalie Portman almost certain to win the oscar If a Thor
sequel happens I think Thor and Sif could happen sooner rather than latter
In the Thor film series

[Chewy]

Thanks.With natalie Portman almost certain to win the oscar If a Thor
sequel happens I think Thor and Sif could happen sooner rather than latter
In the Thor film series

How does her winning an oscar have anything to do with Sif and Thor having a relationship???? :huh:

[steintym]

The way it's described is Odin's hand begins to shake early on like it out of synch leaving a trail, and Odin has to concentrate to phase it back. It get's worse until he falls into the odinsleep.

Thanks - Sounds pretty cool. I can see that looking pretty awesome on screen.

[lixdexia]

How does her winning an oscar have anything to do with Sif and Thor having a relationship???? :huh:
could price her out of the thor sequel, i don't think it will though.

as for thor and jane's relationship...i dunno. kinda hard to gauge it in that format

[marvelrobbins]

How does her winning an oscar have anything to do with Sif and Thor having a relationship???? :huh:

That she may not want to be In Thor sequels.With Marvel films we have seen cases where actors suspossly set don't come back.And It It Is not out of the question of her wanting to be In more serious films instead of genre films after she has her baby.

[Chewy]

Yeah but this isn't a case where she took the movie to increase her profile and won't want to remain with the series. She's already pretty famous, she took the part because she wanted to work with Branagh. I don't see how an Oscar would change that.

[Vartha]

How is the romance between Jane and Thor? That's probably my biggest worry right now.
Well put it this way, JANE is basically the one who changes Thor. :D

[JDym]

i don't think the romance is too much though. you had to figure with a guy like Hemsworth, they were going to want to woo the young female market with some romantic stuff. It could have been a LOT worse. Besides waking up next to each other and a kiss at the end, that's really it. There's no "I love yous" or anything cheesy. It's more of a nice bond they share together that just happens to include an attraction :oldrazz:

[Vartha]

Don't forget Sif's little "acknowledgment" of Thor's change as well.
It'll be nice to see what happens with that little triangle in future films.

[MikeFrost]

Seems Nick Fury has a cameo in Thor aswell but he isn't mentioned in the script.

I wonder...

[Vartha]

Yeah I figured that they'd add to the end myself. I'm betting that's what that is Mike.

[lixdexia]

i'd like to know how he gets back to earth for the avengers after the ending in the script

[Vartha]

Probably Jane and her crew figure out how to reconnect to Asgard from our end of Bifrost.

[marvelrobbins]

My bet Is Fury Is In a post credits scene that will connect Thor to moden day scenes of
Captain America.Perhapes Coulson reports to him on the events on earth,and Fury gets call and sends team to the artic.I have always suspected Captain America would beguin with Shield finding Captain America and end with him being thrawed and meeting Fury.This Is way to further connect both films.

now bigger question Is will The Avengers have to figure out a way to get Thor back to earth or has a rewrite done that.

[Elayis]

Does the script make any mention of Thor flying, and how it might be portrayed? Because I really loved how they did the hammer summons.

[lixdexia]

yes it mentions him flying

[BigThor]

yes it mentions him flying

^^^ It's true

[JDym]

i'd like to know how he gets back to earth for the avengers after the ending in the script

it ends with jane and darcy looking at projections of a potentially rebuilt bridge. it kinda takes away from the ending and the whole "how's she doing down there?" thing knowing that it's just going to get rebuilt for the avengers

[JDym]

considering thor mentions to coulson that he'll always be an ally, if the Fury postcredit scene follows with an Avengers invitation, it's gonna be a bit silly/redundant

[eeffos]

One thing to consider about the post credit scene. I noticed at the Oscars last year (about the time the Thor filming was rapping up), Robert Downey jr still had his “Tony Stark” look. I couldn’t help but think…..why would he still have that look unless????
What if Thor’s post credit scene has Coulson or Barton telling Stark there’s a new member to the Avengers team…..”Thor”.
I think that would blow the audiences mind to see RDJ at the end. Kinda like how RDJ was a late add on to TIH post credit.

[Chewy]

They were shooting IM2 reshoots at the time

[antonydavanzo]

He flies at the end when he is fighting the destroyer. Thor is in flight when the destroger shoots his beam at his but Thor overcomes this fce by using his hammer and ends up charging down from the skys towards the Destroyer.Does the script make any mention of Thor flying, and how it might be portrayed? Because I really loved how they did the hammer summons.

[WildcatNC]

I would honestly assume the advanced Asgardians would be more than capable of rebuilding the Bifrost Bridge as well.

[BigThor]

He flies at the end when he is fighting the destroyer. Thor is in flight when the destroger shoots his beam at his but Thor overcomes this fce by using his hammer and ends up charging down from the skys towards the Destroyer.

What does he overcome by using his hammer?

[Still A ThorFan]

In my opinion the script had the same feel or tone of the limited series Thor The Mighty Adventure. If you read that do you agree?

[Vartha]

Yes, I've used The Mighty Avenger to show people that didn't want to be script spoiled how the script felt.
The relationship of all the characters and similarities between the two are VERY close. So those of you out there wanting to know the feel of the Script yet not wanting to be spoiled, pick up Thor the Mighty Avenger! There should be SOME books still out there.

[antonydavanzo]

What does he overcome by using his hammer?

Sorry , the force of the beam. Bad spelling due to a late night out.
This to me is gonna rule , I cannot wait to see Thor using the hammer to knock back the Destroyers beam and all while he is flying!!. There is a lot more flight in the script so this is not a 1 off,

[Supermanreturns]

For who has read the script: when and how Pym, HYDRA and Banner are referenced? Where is Jasper Sitwell and how it works? How does he do Hawkeye in his scene?

Thanks.

[Vartha]

Well Jane's doing this research on these Auroras that appear nightly in the desert.
She had developed her own equipment to study those Auroras and after Thor fell SHIELD confiscates her equipment. She complains and her Boss tells her of Pym and one other scientist studying Gama radiation that had the same thing happen to them.

[LuisTX85]

I did not have the honor&luck to be able to read the leaked script!:(.....But from reading comments on here on it,I think it's shaping up even much better than I expected!

[marvelrobbins]

One last thing from those who read the leaked script.How would you describe from the leaked script the size of Frigga's role.I am curious how much I should expect Reno Russo
to be on screen.And any references to Thor's mother being the goddess of Earth?

[Jesster32388]

How the hell did I miss this leak? Damn that's a shame, since I'm a writer I love reading scripts especially for films that I'm looking forward to seeing. Oh well I'm still excited as hell for this and will see it day 1.

[LuisTX85]

Does Thor wear his helmet for the last battle scene?,hinting at using it for Avengers alot more than this film??

Does it also explain exactly how Thor flys in this movie??

[lixdexia]

Does Thor wear his helmet for the last battle scene?,hinting at using it for Avengers alot more than this film??

Does it also explain exactly how Thor flys in this movie??
it doesn't mention one way or the other about thor wearing his helmet in the final fight, but we kinda know from the trailer that he doesn't

[LuisTX85]

I kinda understand why not in this film,But I sure hope he does in Avengers!.....He would have proved worthy of wearing it/a costume update of sorts for the Avengers and would be a great treat for us fans.(which whedon is fully aware of)

So.....what about his flying??

[Vartha]

I agree Luis. Maybe with the Avengers.

[lixdexia]

i don't remember if they explained the flying or not.

i hope he doesn't wear his helmet in the avengers tbh, i just don't like the way it looks

[BigThor]

Sorry , the force of the beam. Bad spelling due to a late night out.
This to me is gonna rule , I cannot wait to see Thor using the hammer to knock back the Destroyers beam and all while he is flying!!. There is a lot more flight in the script so this is not a 1 off,

Woahhhhhh sounds EPIC, I was hoping he knocks back the Destroyer's beam with his hammer during their fight :)

He flies more than once? SWEEEEET:thor:!!!

One last thing from those who read the leaked script.How would you describe from the leaked script the size of Frigga's role.I am curious how much I should expect Reno Russo
to be on screen.And any references to Thor's mother being the goddess of Earth?

Somebody please answer this man's question, because I've been wondering the same thing.

[JDym]

For who has read the script: when and how Pym, HYDRA and Banner are referenced? Where is Jasper Sitwell and how it works? How does he do Hawkeye in his scene?

Thanks.

coulson mentions Hydra in the part that you see from the trailer where he's talking

they Pym and Banner mentions come almost one after the other, almost like a "insert references here" section :oldrazz:

[antonydavanzo]

For who has read the script: when and how Pym, HYDRA and Banner are referenced? Where is Jasper Sitwell and how it works? How does he do Hawkeye in his scene?

Thanks. Hawkeye is refered to as Barton. He is in the scenes where Thor goes for his hammer. He is described as being kitted out in black high tech sniper gear, this reminds me of his 1st appearence in Ultimates. He is ordered by Coulson to target Thor when the thunder god is in the polly tunnels attacking Shield. He positions himself up high and targets Thor using a sniper, Thor does not leave Bartons sights for the whole time. It ends with Coulson telling him to stand down.

[Vartha]

One last thing from those who read the leaked script.How would you describe from the leaked script the size of Frigga's role.I am curious how much I should expect Reno Russo
to be on screen.And any references to Thor's mother being the goddess of Earth?
Frigga does have several Scenes with Odin and Loki. Nothing on Gaea/Jord tho

[marvelrobbins]

Cool.I am not surprised they are Ignoring Gaea/Jord

[Vartha]

You never know, they could have added something about Jord with more rewrites. Nick fury's not anywhere in the script but they're filming a scene with Sam for the Thor movie. You never know what else they would add.

[marcvader]

Guys, I asked this question in the general info thread but this one is probably more appropriate. Does Thor get stuck in Asgard after the rainbow bridge gets destroyed?

[flickchick85]

Guys, I asked this question in the general info thread but this one is probably more appropriate. Does Thor get stuck in Asgard after the rainbow bridge gets destroyed?
Yep. But it does end with Jane's team and SHIELD working together on a way to rebuild it.

[marcvader]

Guess that will be covered in Avengers then?

[Still A ThorFan]

Notice the giant monster in the SB ad, that wasn't in the script during the battle with the Frost Giants was it?

[steintym]

I don't recall the giant monster being mentioned, but it must make an appearance during the Frost Giant battle.

[flickchick85]

Guess that will be covered in Avengers then?
I'm sure, but presumably without needing Jane present ('cuz I doubt they'd really want to add Portman's paycheck to the already expensive proceedings), so it wouldn't surprise me if Nick Fury just mentioned that the team achieved a breakthrough or something.

[BigThor]

Notice the giant monster in the SB ad, that wasn't in the script during the battle with the Frost Giants was it?

I was thinking the same thing, hopefully it's one of the scenes added after the leaked version of the script.

I'm suprised more people aren't talking about it, that thing looked like it's gonna be invloved in one hell of a fight. I would love to see Thor stopping the creature if it charges then either slamming it or throwing it.

[lixdexia]

yeah, that monster is mentioned in the scene where thor & friends go to jotenhiem. it's a shapeshifted frost giant

[BigThor]

yeah, that monster is mentioned in the scene where thor & friends go to jotenhiem. it's a shapeshifted frost giant

I heard that the Frost Giant's don't shapeshift in the film.

[lixdexia]

I heard that the Frost Giant's don't shapeshift in the film.
they don't change size, but one turns into that

[marvel_freshman]

I don't believe it shapeshifts, but I honestly think they're like Laufey's viscous dogs, Frost dogs of some sort. I have been talking with a Marvel employee via Twitter, (if true) and he says: Ah, those were in the Frost Giant fight in the beginning, I think. It's been a few months since I saw the movie and the CGI wasn't done yet!

[BigThor]

they don't change size, but one turns into that

Awww I was hoping it was a different creature altogether :(

[Vartha]

they don't change size, but one turns into that
But they ARE about a foot taller in the SB spot than they were in the Trailer. :D

[Vartha]

Notice the giant monster in the SB ad, that wasn't in the script during the battle with the Frost Giants was it?
No it wasn't, but Fury wasn't either and they went for more scenes WITH Sam, so what we've seen may be added to even more than it has been.
They don't go into alot of detail when it comes to the fighting in the Frost Giant scenes.

[BigThor]

But they ARE about a foot taller in the SB spot than they were in the Trailer. :D

Really? They seem like the same size ot me, what makes you say that?

[Vartha]

Really? They seem like the same size ot me, what makes you say that?
yeah, just posted 3 comparison shots in the news thread. :D

[BigThor]

yeah, just posted 3 comparison shots in the news thread. :D

You are THE MAN, Vartha

[antonydavanzo]

yeah, just posted 3 comparison shots in the news thread. :D Nice comparison. The giants now look huge, that looks like some great cgi. I noticed a huge difference with the ceremonial pic. The hall is longer as well as wider. They have added more guards and more people to the shot and it looks better for it.

[BigThor]

Nice comparison. The giants now look huge, that looks like some great cgi. I noticed a huge difference with the ceremonial pic. The hall is longer as well as wider. They have added more guards and more people to the shot and it looks better for it.

Yeppp (Hank Hill's voice)

[Vartha]

You are THE MAN, Vartha
Thanks BT! I do try to help. :D

[LuisTX85]

Is that throne room the ending?,It would be a perfect shot to end the movie IF Thor puts on his helmet and then that shot fades to black to the credits!

Then Thor's first scene in Avengers could have him in that helmet and has it for most of the film!

[Vartha]

Nice comparison. The giants now look huge, that looks like some great cgi. I noticed a huge difference with the ceremonial pic. The hall is longer as well as wider. They have added more guards and more people to the shot and it looks better for it.
Would still like to see the Frost Giants even bigger though. I can see a scene with Volstagg either commenting or exaggerating the size of the Frost Giants. lol

[Vartha]

Is that throne room the ending?,It would be a perfect shot to end the movie IF Thor puts on his helmet and then that shot fades to black to the credits!

Then Thor's first scene in Avengers could have him in that helmet and has it for most of the film!
Actually it's the opposite Luis. It's at the beginning of the movie. Thor's about to be named King in that scene.

[LuisTX85]

So Thor goes from King to disgraced in Asgard,to hero/savior in Earth,to good King again in Asgard!?!?.....like it pretty much is suppose to.

[LuisTX85]

double post,sorry!

[Vartha]

Actually he's literally WORDS away from being crowned when Frost Giants take the Casket of Ancient Winters from a "Safe room" interrupting the ceremony, and eventually leading to Thor's banishment.

[Raiden]

I guess I'll have to Google for the script...

[steintym]

The comparison shots are pretty cool. They really show the improvements that can be made.

[Vartha]

Yeah that's why I posted them. The changes in such a shot time are great.
Makes me wonder how much of the script we've actually seen since that one was under revision.

[BigThor]

I would even say that Frost Giant looks 2 or 3 feet taller in the superbowl spot than he did in the first trailer. I think the next trailer should show Loki doing a powerful attack as well as Thor striking the Destroyer.

[herolee10]

For those who were fortunate enough to read the supposed script, I'd like to ask:

1. Is the difference in Thor's outlook on life and his overall personality well displayed by the end of the film?

2. What is the specific event that triggers Thor to be selfless that triggers the change from his arrogant personality that was presented at the beginning of the film?

3. Is the romantic plot between Thor and Jane Foster believably written?

[BigThor]

For those who were fortunate enough to read the supposed script, I'd like to ask:

1. Is the difference in Thor's outlook on life and his overall personality well displayed by the end of the film?

2. What is the specific event that triggers Thor to be selfless that triggers the change from his arrogant personality that was presented at the beginning of the film?

3. Is the romantic plot between Thor and Jane Foster believably written?

I haven't read the script, but I'm well informed from asking those who have.

1) Yes it is shown as a gradual evolution mainly because of Jane Foster.

2) It happens when he's in mortal form and he still tries to fight the Destroyer even though it could cost him his life.

3) From what I've heard, yes their romantic relationship is pretty believable.

[JDym]

They only kiss (I believe) once. They sleep next to each other, but that's about it for the :hrt: stuff.

Otherwise, even though it's written as a lovey kind of thing, I feel it comes off more as a mutual appreciation. He informs her about Asgard and the 9 planets (we see them start the conversation but all the details happen O.S.) and she shows him a little humanity.

all of his "changed" scenes take place in a bit of call back goofiness at a diner.

[BigThor]

They only kiss (I believe) once. They sleep next to each other, but that's about it for the :hrt: stuff.

Otherwise, even though it's written as a lovey kind of thing, I feel it comes off more as a mutual appreciation. He informs her about Asgard and the 9 planets (we see them start the conversation but all the details happen O.S.) and she shows him a little humanity.

all of his "changed" scenes take place in a bit of call back goofiness at a diner.

Nice, I'm glad they didn't go overboard with the romance.

[herolee10]

Thanks for the answers guys; so here's another question,


Is it evident that there's tension between Thor and his father before his banishment takes place? Or does Thor's anger for his father as shown in the trailer just manifest something as though it was "in the heat of the moment" type of anger?

[Vartha]

Yes and no. Odin has some doubt before the crowning, as he talks to Frigga. Then even after a speech before the Frost Giant's attempted theft of the Casket Odin basically tells everyone not to start anything and Thor convinces the warriors Three and Sif to go with him to Jotunheim.
Thor just basically does what he wants without thinking things through and what the consequences will be.
After returning Thor gets banished.

[herolee10]

Yes and no. Odin has some doubt before the crowning, as he talks to Frigga. Then even after a speech before the Frost Giant's attempted theft of the Casket Odin basically tells everyone not to start anything and Thor convinces the warriors Three and Sif to go with him to Jotunheim.
Thor just basically does what he wants without thinking things through and what the consequences will be.
After returning Thor gets banished.


Sounds great; I must admit that Thor's story/journey intrigues me more than CA's film at the moment. Not because of the difference in effects or action sequences presented, but just the idea of a story being told where we see someone as powerful and yet arrogant and cocky as Thor humbled into becoming a real hero (almost identical to the journey that Tony went through in Iron Man 1), that's the kind of stories that I preference tbh.

[marvel_freshman]

Do you guys realize that with Loki taking down Laufey, this will probably make him ruler of JOTUNHEIM. I can't wait to see Loki leading Frost Giants and other creatures to invade Asgard...with no mercy.

[lixdexia]

Do you guys realize that with Loki taking down Laufey, this will probably make him ruler of JOTUNHEIM. I can't wait to see Loki leading Frost Giants and other creatures to invade Asgard...with no mercy.
do you think we'll ever see that? you think they'd go with loki as the main villain again for thor 2?

[marvel_freshman]

With his motive probably set on revenge, I CAN see him being the main villain of the sequel, probably in another attempt of igniting a war, with some ancient creature. Midgard serpent, or some sort of dragon would be cool. I'm sure that's why Marvel is considering this film the origin of the character. And though I don't know much, I'm sure there are several storylines they could follow.

Personally, I'd love to see Loki bring Hulk to Asgard after failing with him in The Avengers, on earth. It'd be cool to see, being that the Hulk doesn't seem to have any movie plans. I think. Hell, even introducing the Wrecking Crew would be pretty awesome. Endless possibilities.

[lixdexia]

i don't doubt that the story is there, i just think they'd want to give it some time before using loki again. maybe do a movie with surtur or enchantress as the villain and bring loki back for #3. i'd also like to not see hulk in asgard (or earth for that matter:oldrazz:) after the avengers

[Vartha]

Do you guys realize that with Loki taking down Laufey, this will probably make him ruler of JOTUNHEIM. I can't wait to see Loki leading Frost Giants and other creatures to invade Asgard...with no mercy.
VERY nice point Marvel!
I can see that if they already don't have other plans in Avengers for Loki since he IS in that too.

[LuisTX85]

I think some people will get tired of Loki after Avengers!,he may be awesome to many But I think some and especially the GA will wan't some new guy for Thor or Avenger 2!(which ever comes first)

[Vartha]

Well like Magneto is to X-Men, Loki is to Thor. Though there are plenty of other villains they can use.

[BigThor]

Well like Magneto is to X-Men, Loki is to Thor. Though there are plenty of other villains they can use.

Yeah he's basically Thor's version of Lex Luthor, except with superpowers. I don't think he should be a main villain in any of the sequels but he should definatley have some involvement with whoever is.

Hopefully Ulik, The Wrecking Crew, Executioner & Enchantress, and Surtur all get to make an appearance in Thor's potential sequels. I could see Enchantress, Executioner, and The Wrecking Crew making an appearance in Thor 2, while Ulik appears in Thor 3 with Surtur as the main villain.

[BigThor]

Bump

[Vartha]

Yeah he's basically Thor's version of Lex Luthor, except with superpowers. I don't think he should be a main villain in any of the sequels but he should definatley have some involvement with whoever is.

Hopefully Ulik, The Wrecking Crew, Executioner & Enchantress, and Surtur all get to make an appearance in Thor's potential sequels. I could see Enchantress, Executioner, and The Wrecking Crew making an appearance in Thor 2, while Ulik appears in Thor 3 with Surtur as the main villain.
I can see something with Surtur most definitely but that's pretty major. I'm thinking Executioner & Amora with maybe Ulik too in one movie.
Not that I don't like the Wrecking Crew, I just think that they make a laughing stock of the Franchise if they were the MAIN villains.

[BigThor]

I can see something with Surtur most definitely but that's pretty major. I'm thinking Executioner & Amora with maybe Ulik too in one movie.
Not that I don't like the Wrecking Crew, I just think that they make a laughing stock of the Franchise if they were the MAIN villains.

Yeah of course, that's why I said Surtur should be the main villain of Thor 3 with Ulik as a regular villain. I meant for the Wrecking Crew only to serve as someones minion, either Loki or Enchantress.

[steintym]

I wouldn't have a problem with Loki again. Although, the Executioner and Enchatress would be next on my list.

[Vartha]

I can see Executioner & Amora in Thor 2 with some sub plot going with Surtur.
In Thor 2 have something with Wrecking Crew being used to distract Thor in some way, Executioner basically doing some major beating of Thor with Ulik's help.
Then something happens to have Executioner change sides so by the 3rd movie They can do that Simonson story where he covers the Asgardians back to escape Surtur.

[Vartha]

hmmmm I wonder About Blake and Balder.
RECENTLY it was shown that Blake and Balder are one and the same in the Ultimates universe.

funny how neither Blake nor Balder are anywhere in the movie.......with Blake being her EX. :D

[WildcatNC]

hmmmm I wonder About Blake and Balder.
RECENTLY it was shown that Blake and Balder are one and the same in the Ultimates universe.

funny how neither Blake nor Balder are anywhere in the movie.......with Blake being her EX. :D



Good catch. Wonder how mad Balder would get when he finds out Thor is swinging Mjolnir at his ex? :woot:

[Vartha]

I guess we'll have awhile to wait and see. lol

[WildcatNC]

I guess we'll have awhile to wait and see. lol


I can hear all the bad "hammer" puns in the halls of Asgard now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JULyx-wZih8&feature=related

[Vartha]

I can hear all the bad "hammer" puns in the halls of Asgard now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JULyx-wZih8&feature=related
lol yup yup they started awhile ago with Kat and Nat commenting on Chris' Hammer. lol

[BigThor]

I can see Executioner & Amora in Thor 2 with some sub plot going with Surtur.
In Thor 2 have something with Wrecking Crew being used to distract Thor in some way, Executioner basically doing some major beating of Thor with Ulik's help.
Then something happens to have Executioner change sides so by the 3rd movie They can do that Simonson story where he covers the Asgardians back to escape Surtur.

Yeah, The Wrecking Crew should be made to atack a city so Thor would leave Asgard, and he should be shown to beat able Executioner and Ulik seperatly (so they have to use 2 on 1).

[WildcatNC]

Yeah, The Wrecking Crew should be made to atack a city so Thor would leave Asgard, and he should be shown to beat able Executioner and Ulik seperatly (so they have to use 2 on 1).

I was never very high on the Wrecking Crew as villains. They would be pretty far down my list without making some changes to them. They just have more of a "Spiderman villain" feel to me. Give them a character makeover and I might not mind them.

[BigThor]

I only meant for them to make just one appearance, just as pawns to distract Thor not really "villains".

[Manowar]

Is there mention of any of Loki's children in the script?

[Vartha]

Not really, He doesn't even know he's a Frost Giant for about the first quarter of the film and before that we get a sense Loki does have a tad bit of sibling Jealousy but not to the extent we see normally.
They didn't go into that kind of detail.

[Shemtov]

Can Somebody who's read the Script please tell me what emphasis the movie will put on the fact that Thor and The Asgardians were worshipped by the Norsemen in the past?
And does the Movie repeatedly call Thor and The Asgardians "Gods"?
And Before you tell me "To read it myself", It might be against my religion to do that, and your answers will help me determine whether it i indeed forbidden for me.
(Before you say anything about my religion please read the following posts:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663298#post19663298
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663058#post19663058
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663181#post19663181)

[WildcatNC]

Can Somebody who's read the Script please tell me what emphasis the movie will put on the fact that Thor and The Asgardians were worshipped by the Norsemen in the past?
And does the Movie repeatedly call Thor and The Asgardians "Gods"?
And Before you tell me "To read it myself", It might be against my religion to do that, and your answers will help me determine whether it i indeed forbidden for me.
(Before you say anything about my religion please read the following posts:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663298#post19663298
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663058#post19663058
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663181#post19663181)

:funny:

[kaijunexus]

Can Somebody who's read the Script please tell me what emphasis the movie will put on the fact that Thor and The Asgardians were worshipped by the Norsemen in the past?
And does the Movie repeatedly call Thor and The Asgardians "Gods"?
And Before you tell me "To read it myself", It might be against my religion to do that, and your answers will help me determine whether it i indeed forbidden for me.
(Before you say anything about my religion please read the following posts:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663298#post19663298
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663058#post19663058
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663181#post19663181)

Best religious satire ever. Right? :woot:





...right? :huh:

[Shemtov]

Best religious satire ever. Right? :woot:





...right? :huh:
It's not satire.
Can someone whose read the script please answer me?

[Shemtov]

:funny:
It's not very polite to laugh at somebody's religion.....

[WildcatNC]

It's not satire.
Can someone whose read the script please answer me?


From what I know they are not portrayed as "Gods", merely as advanced extra-dimensional beings. There are some references to them visiting earth in the distant past.

The connection to the Norse pantheon is made but its the humans who perceive them as gods. I don't think they tread on any other gods delicate sensibilities.

[WildcatNC]

It's not very polite to laugh at somebody's religion.....


It was funny to me so I laughed. Nothing more than that was intended. I'm still not convinced your not trying to be funny.

[Shemtov]

From what I know they are not portrayed as "Gods", merely as advanced extra-dimensional beings. There are some references to them visiting earth in the distant past.

The connection to the Norse pantheon is made but its the humans who perceive them as gods. I don't think they tread on any other gods delicate sensibilities.
Is this a Subplot?

[WildcatNC]

Is this a Subplot?

As far as I know they just reference the Asgardians visiting earth thousands of years ago. They let the audience make the connections there. I don't think theres any direct or major reference that they are "Gods".

[Figs]

Is this a Subplot?

It was mentioned in the past that they leave it open to the audience as to whether they're Gods or just an advanced alien race. So I don't think you should have a problem watching it.

[MikeFrost]

It's not very polite to laugh at somebody's religion.....

It's ok to laugh at whatever makes you look like a fool. And this crusade of yours is really getting on the parody side...

[Shemtov]

It's ok to laugh at whatever makes you look like a fool. And this crusade of yours is really getting on the parody side...
It's not a crusade, I'm just trying too determine whether I can say it.....
A Crusade would be if I would be Like "Nobody Watch this! God says it's forbidden!! You will be doomed to Hell for all eternity if you watch this"
Which I'm not doing.

[WildcatNC]

It's not a crusade, I'm just trying too determine whether I can say it.....
A Crusade would be if I would be Like "Nobody Watch this! God says it's forbidden!! You will be doomed to Hell for all eternity if you watch this"
Which I'm not doing.

I hereby declare that you have a blasphemer mulligan for the Thor movie!!


:thor:


:bow:

[MikeFrost]

You just showed us before that it's ok for you to read "forbidden stuff" aslong as you ignore it. So just read the script and ignore it if you find out that it doesn't go according to your religion.

Going around here saying "my religion doesn't allow this or my religion doesn't allow that" is just another way of shoving it in our faces. You could had easly just asked the same question without throwing the religion card around here but nope, you need to tell us how much of a sacrifice you're making, right?

[Shemtov]

You just showed us before that it's ok for you to read "forbidden stuff" aslong as you ignore it. So just read the script and ignore it if you find out that it doesn't go according to your religion.

Going around here saying "my religion doesn't allow this or my religion doesn't allow that" is just another way of shoving it in our faces. You could had easly just asked the same question without throwing the religion card around here but nope, you need to tell us how much of a sacrifice you're making, right?
Well, I was afarid of people ignoring me and saying "Go read it yourself"

[MikeFrost]

There's a handful of people that didn't want to read the script that asked stuff before and were answered. This was before you even posted.

More questions are still being answered to those that didn't want to read the script.

[Shemtov]

There's a handful of people that didn't want to read the script that asked stuff before and were answered. This was before you even posted.

More questions are still being answered to those that didn't want to read the script.
I didn't read the Thread, I just posted. :o
So y'know, I didn't know about that.

[Vartha]

Big Thor, About the warriors Three, while Hogun is still Grim not cracking a smile but once he IS the healer of the Three.
Fandral and Hogun actually TOSS Volstagg (with a bit of Complaining) at Destroyer like a scene similar to Gimli and Aragron's "toss ME" scene and a Colossus/Wolverine fastball. The piercing of Destroyer doesn't stop Destroyer and Volstagg does eventually get hurt so Destroyer still isn't easily stoppable I'm just disappointed that Destroyer isn't a bit more indestructible.

[Vartha]

Can Somebody who's read the Script please tell me what emphasis the movie will put on the fact that Thor and The Asgardians were worshipped by the Norsemen in the past?
And does the Movie repeatedly call Thor and The Asgardians "Gods"?
And Before you tell me "To read it myself", It might be against my religion to do that, and your answers will help me determine whether it i indeed forbidden for me.
(Before you say anything about my religion please read the following posts:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663298#post19663298
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663058#post19663058
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=19663181#post19663181)
They Don't dwell on the Fact for to long about Thor and the Asgardians being worshiped as Gods by the Vikings but they do go through a scene or two with Jane and Professor Andrews (Jane's Boss) looking into a children's book of myths.
The Asgardians do not CLAIM to be Gods just that OUR ancestors did call them Gods.

[BigThor]

Big Thor, About the warriors Three, while Hogun is still Grim not cracking a smile but once he IS the healer of the Three.
Fandral and Hogun actually TOSS Volstagg (with a bit of Complaining) at Destroyer like a scene similar to Gimli and Aragron's "toss ME" scene and a Colossus/Wolverine fastball. The piercing of Destroyer doesn't stop Destroyer and Volstagg does eventually get hurt so Destroyer still isn't easily stoppable I'm just disappointed that Destroyer isn't a bit more indestructible.

I meant does Hogun and Fandral perform any cool moves on their own in battle.

[Vartha]

Oh yeah they all have some pretty Cool fighting from what IS described.
There's a lot of banter between Fandral and Volstagg that Annoys Hogun. lol
Like I said there's alot of fighting going one that's not ALL described in DETAIL but what is there sounds cool.

[MikeFrost]

The Warriors Three are pretty much the Three Musketeers. Fighty fighty and laughy laughy.

[Vartha]

The Warriors Three are pretty much the Three Musketeers. Fighty fighty and laughy laughy.
yeah they do have that same type of banter don't they?

[BigThor]

Oh yeah they all have some pretty Cool fighting from what IS described.
There's a lot of banter between Fandral and Volstagg that Annoys Hogun. lol
Like I said there's alot of fighting going one that's not ALL described in DETAIL but what is there sounds cool.

Ok great, that's all I needed to know I didn't really want any details or anything.

I was just making sure that Volstagg wasn't the only member of the Warrior's Three that was useful. I already know that Sif is going to be quite useful since she's the only female warrior in the film.

[MikeFrost]

yeah they do have that same type of banter don't they?

They do. And pretty much the same personalities/physical traits. The whole hungry big guy, the ladies man and the reserved guy traits are just as much Volstagg, Fandral and Hogun as they are Porthos, Aramis and Athos.

The Warriors Three were obviously heavily inspired in Dumas' tale when they were initially written for the comic book.

[BigThor]

Warrior's Three = Three Musketeers with "super powers"

[steintym]

Big Thor, About the warriors Three, while Hogun is still Grim not cracking a smile but once he IS the healer of the Three.
Fandral and Hogun actually TOSS Volstagg (with a bit of Complaining) at Destroyer like a scene similar to Gimli and Aragron's "toss ME" scene and a Colossus/Wolverine fastball. The piercing of Destroyer doesn't stop Destroyer and Volstagg does eventually get hurt so Destroyer still isn't easily stoppable I'm just disappointed that Destroyer isn't a bit more indestructible.

I agree that I wish the Destroyer was a little more indestructible. They set it up nicely with some of the earlier scenes (and even fighting the Asgardians) and then it seems to be taken out fairly easily. Maybe on screen it will play out as more of a challenge.

[Vartha]

That's what I'm hoping Steintym. If you watch the footage we have compared to the script there are slight differences. Not to mention the script seems to be in revised several time even now with the add of Nick Fury.

[BigThor]

That's what I'm hoping Steintym. If you watch the footage we have compared to the script there are slight differences. Not to mention the script seems to be in revised several time even now with the add of Nick Fury.

What are the slight difference between the script and the footage we've seen so far.

[Vartha]

What are the slight difference between the script and the footage we've seen so far.
Just that there were scene's omitted from one spot to another or Added actions. more or less the norm on any script with scene's like that.

[BigThor]

Oh yeah, of course

[steintym]

Overall, I think the Destroyer scene will be pretty cool and payoff big time. Seeing Thor reclaim Mjolnir and all of his abilities and whip Destroyer *** will be awesome. The Destroyer probably should be a little more unstoppable, but again, I'll hold final judgement until after I see everything in action.

[Vartha]

Ok great, that's all I needed to know I didn't really want any details or anything.

I was just making sure that Volstagg wasn't the only member of the Warrior's Three that was useful. I already know that Sif is going to be quite useful since she's the only female warrior in the film.
There's a part where Hogun's feet are trapped in ice and he tosses a knife at a frost giant and Sif says, "I'm glad I taught him that" lol

[BigThor]

There's a part where Hogun's feet are trapped in ice and he tosses a knife at a frost giant and Sif says, "I'm glad I taught him that" lol

Ha :woot:

[steintym]

The Warriors Three are going to be awesome - Cool action scenes and they provide a lot of the comic relief.

[BigThor]

Cool, glad to hear that :yay:

[Kirmit]

This may of already been asked but how does Thor get his armour back? Does it magically reappear on him when he reclaims Mjolnir?

[Vartha]

This may of already been asked but how does Thor get his armour back? Does it magically reappear on him when he reclaims Mjolnir?
Yes it does reappear as he gets Mjolnir back.:woot:

[Kirmit]

Sounds good, thanks for the answer.

[Vartha]

Can't WAIT to see what that looks like actually. I don't recall any fx explained as it happens. I'd have to look again

[steintym]

I think you're right, I don't think the fx were really spelled out. I believe Mjolnir returns, there's lightning and a cloud of dust and when everything clears ... Thor is standing there in full armor.

I remember it sounding pretty damn dramatic, though.

[BigThor]

I think you're right, I don't think the fx were really spelled out. I believe Mjolnir returns, there's lightning and a cloud of dust and when everything clears ... Thor is standing there in full armor.

I remember it sounding pretty damn dramatic, though.

PERFECT!!! :awesome: Just how I thought his armor should reappear, hopefull Thor has lightning in his eyes and surging over his body after this happens:thor:

I've also been wondering if Thor ever shoots any lightning from Mjolnir in the film.

If so, does he do it on multiple occasions?

[Bren]

I shouldn't but I can't help it; when he gets the hammer, and lightning strikes and all that, do we hear "by the power of Asgard.........."?

I'll move on now.

[BigThor]

Nah too He-Man ish, I'd like to hear him say "For Asgard" or "For Midgard" (he is on earth) when he flies towards the Destroyer.

[WildcatNC]

Nah too He-Man ish, I'd like to hear him say "For Asgard" or "For Midgard" (he is earth) when he flies towards the Destroyer.

Thats the one thing that irked me a little about the Thor trailer. He should have said, "Oh no, this is Midgard isn't it?"

Its not a big deal but I would have liked to hear that instead.

[Bren]

Nah too He-Man ish, I'd like to hear him say "For Asgard" or "For Midgard" (he is earth) when he flies towards the Destroyer.

Humour fail :oldrazz:

[herolee10]

I've been meaning to ask this for awhile, but how is that Loki has no recollection of being a part of the Frost Giants/Different race from the Asgardians?

I mean was he taken by Odin when he was just a infant? And why is it that he doesn't look like one and that no one from his race had tried to retrieve him since then?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Thor mythology, let alone Loki's history.

[steintym]

In the script, if I remember correctly, Odin finds Loki as a baby after the battle with the frost giants (Odin tells this story), left to die. Odin thought he could someday unite the kingdoms through Loki.

I don't think it is explained why Loki doesn't look like the Frost Giants. One of the Warriors Three gets extreme frostbite (or something like that) when grabbed by a Frost Giant. Loki also gets grabbed but his skin starts to transform similar to a Frost Giant's (that's what tips him off).

[BigThor]

Humour fail :oldrazz:

Wait, what?

[BigThor]

Double post

[BigThor]

Thats the one thing that irked me a little about the Thor trailer. He should have said, "Oh no, this is Midgard isn't it?"

Its not a big deal but I would have liked to hear that instead.

You know, that didn't really bother but I understand how it can irk some people.

Hopefully he eventually calls earth "Midgard" at some point during the fim.

[WildcatNC]

You know, that didn't really bother but I understand how it can irk some people.

Hopefully he eventually calls earth "Midgard" at some point during the fim.



I'm just a mythology geek too. Midgard in Norse, became "Middle-Earth" in LOTR. It would have been a great way to frame the Asgardians perspective right off the bat.

[BigThor]

I'm just a mythology geek too. Midgard in Norse, became "Middle-Earth" in LOTR. It would have been a great way to frame the Asgardians perspective right off the bat.

I agree

[Vartha]

ok part of the humor about the Character of Darcy is that she's studying POLITICAL SCIENCE not physics. Jane had very few choices to choose from basically for Darcy's position at Jane's lab.

[Whiskey Tango]

I know there's not much to go on in this image but does anyone know where this takes place? Is it after he powers back up while fighting the Destroyer on Earth? Assuming that's one of Big D's blasts he blocks.

http://i53.tinypic.com/kezrz6.jpg

[Vartha]

Yes that's comes AFTER he powers back up.
The power up has yet to be seen.

[Hurm...]

For those of you who have read the script, what are your opinions on it?

[Vartha]

The script or the Trailers? lol
So far I'm loving all the trailers. As for the Script as it WAS as it was leaked, was Great to me personally. There are some scene adds to it I'm sure, with fight scenes and the Nick Fury part.

[RichardMoore]

Is it alright to ask for someone to PM me the script or a link to it?

If so, I do. If not, sorry.

[enygma]

Is it alright to ask for someone to PM me the script or a link to it?

If so, I do. If not, sorry.


Same here.

[BigThor]

I know there's not much to go on in this image but does anyone know where this takes place? Is it after he powers back up while fighting the Destroyer on Earth? Assuming that's one of Big D's blasts he blocks.

Yes that's comes AFTER he powers back up.
The power up has yet to be seen.

You know, after watching the 2nd trailer I'm starting to look forward to the Frost Giant battle and the Loki fight more than Thor's fight with the Destroyer.

[steintym]

I think I probably agree. I think the fights with the Frost Giants and Loki will provide much more action and intensity. Seems like the Destroyer fight might be rather quick. Although how it actually plays out on screen might be a lot different. Plus, the Destroyer scene will be worth it just for Thor powering back up and reclaiming Mjolnir.

[Vartha]

Personally looking foreword to the Destroyer fight and frost Giant battle too, but I'm also Curious about that scene with Odin's past confrontation with Laufrey.

[BigThor]

All this I've been hearing about The Destroyer fight doesn't really make it sound that good.

[Vartha]

Well I like the script version from the time Destroyer lands to it's beat down by Thor, only because of the description.
There's just so much of the Frost Giant fight described and What we've seen looks cool, I'm just wondering WHERE those rumored 300 Frost Giant extras are used. Is it the Thor and gang's fight or is it Odin's first Fight?

[steintym]

I actually forgot about Odin's fight. That might have some cool stuff in an awesome flashback scene.

I also think there's a lot more to the Frost Giant battle (with Thor) than we've scene. It sounds like they start to get overwhelmed at one point (with Thor battling on). Might be a few extras there.

[Shazam]

I know there's not much to go on in this image but does anyone know where this takes place? Is it after he powers back up while fighting the Destroyer on Earth? Assuming that's one of Big D's blasts he blocks.

http://i53.tinypic.com/kezrz6.jpg

I admit that I will be a tad let down if I don't see the hammer doing some of these things...if not all:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://kirbymuseum.org/gallery/d/9901-2/thor-640h.jpg&imgrefurl=http://darkforces.powbangzap.com/blog/category/jack-kirby&usg=__vX3B0enxs11sCWkEN-YLxG8GBFI=&h=557&w=382&sz=387&hl=en&start=80&sig2=80sPUvEtP4Lo5SF7FBceAQ&zoom=1&tbnid=aVum_Yx8VlQUjM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=84&ei=Ce1jTZr1OoK0lQfk16meDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dflying%2Bthor%2Bkirby%26um%3D1%26hl%3 Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D544%26tbs%3Disch :10%2C1564&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=376&vpy=170&dur=1375&hovh=271&hovw=186&tx=85&ty=131&oei=XexjTc6NJILEtwfty9TZCw&page=5&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:80&biw=1003&bih=544


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[Vartha]

Well the Classic Hammer spin is not being used at all. According to Chris and Kenneth at different times the spin was awkward to physically do and the CGI would have cost them too much for THIS film.

We talk about it in one of the Hammer threads. I personally think the REAL Hammer Throw from SPORTS can be used, it's been around for centuries.

They don't say if Mjolnir actually pulls Thor or what, but we know he DOES do some flying.

[Blade X]

They don't say if Mjolnir actually pulls Thor or what, but we know he DOES do some flying.

I was just about to ask if Thor fly's in this moving. Glad to here that he does fly in the movie. Do you know what scenes he will be flying in?

[DarthSkywalker]

Question about Thor reclaiming Mjolnir. How exactly does he get it back before the Destroyer crushes him? Does it just fly/appear to him?

[Sub-Zero]

so is it true that the asgardians are really aliens and not the real norse gods? if true it actually makes sense since many things in the comics don't actually coincide with actual norse mythology.

[steintym]

I was just about to ask if Thor fly's in this moving. Glad to here that he does fly in the movie. Do you know what scenes he will be flying in?


I believe he does a bit during the battle with the Frost Giants and then again during the fight with the Destroyer. I can't really recall if there's another scene.

[steintym]

Question about Thor reclaiming Mjolnir. How exactly does he get it back before the Destroyer crushes him? Does it just fly/appear to him?

Basically, yes, it comes flying to him. The Destroyer hits (mortal) Thor and practically kills him. The Destroyer gets ready to blast a motionless Thor and Mjolnir flies to him and deflects the blast.

so is it true that the asgardians are really aliens and not the real norse gods? if true it actually makes sense since many things in the comics don't actually coincide with actual norse mythology.

Yes, I guess they're consider aliens. They were an advanced race that visited Earth and that primitive Vikings worshipped as gods.

[Vartha]

The Asgardians also say Science AND Magic are one in the same. So they are still far more advanced than we are.

[BigThor]

I believe he does a bit during the battle with the Frost Giants and then again during the fight with the Destroyer. I can't really recall if there's another scene.

I sure hope Thor really does fly in the Frost Giant battle, especially when he fights the "giant creature" from the trailer. Jotunheim also seems like it's going to be the largest area in the film, so it only makes sense for Thor to fly in it.

[Sikyon]

I have a few questions regarding Loki: Is the door left open for him to appear in The Avengers? And are all his scenes in Asgard/Jotunheim or does he come to Earth, too?

Sorry if any of this was asked already, I didn't read the whole thread because I don't want to get too spoilered :cwink:

[steintym]

The end with Loki is left wide open. It appears as if he dies, but it is far from definitive.

There's only one brief scene with Loki on Earth. He visits Thor while he's being held by Shield. Loki appears as an agent and "updates" Thor on Odin's condition.

[BigThor]

I'm still anxious to see the what level of magic Loki will be using in the film, I hope he pulls out some big moves.

With that being said, Loki's "staff blast" & "magic dagger throw" from the 2nd trailer were awesome :up:.

[herolee10]

Can anyone who's read the script describe as to what the relationship between Thor and Loki is like prior towards Thor getting banished?

I mean, I've read interviews from Tom saying that Loki does in a way, "care" about his brother while being jealous of him at the same time.



Also, does anyone know if Odin had banished Thor where he had no intention of ever bringing him back...or that he had intended to bring him back once Thor had changed his ways?

[BigThor]

Also, does anyone know if Odin had banished Thor where he had no intention of ever bringing him back...or that he had intended to bring him back once Thor had changed his ways?

Well, I can answer this part

Odin banished Thor so he could learn humility so he did indeed have intentions to bring him back after he changed his ways.

[herolee10]

Well, I can answer this part

Odin banished Thor so he could learn humility so he did indeed have intentions to bring him back after he changed his ways.

Thanks for the answer. I really appreciate it.


Hmmm...I'm actually quite curious to find out as to what Thor was faced with that forced Odin to appear and rescue him and co. in the Frost Giant's realm since I've been told, and shown as to how powerful he is, and the Warriors 3, Sif, and Loki sure aren't pushovers as well.

[BigThor]

Probably the sheer numbers of the Frost Giant's finally overwhelming them. They're on a whole planet filled with them after all, good question though.

I hope that "giant monster" isn't what causes Odin to come, I want to see Thor defeat it single handedly or atleast mostly by himself.

[steintym]

Yeah, it seems that they are just overwhelmed by the number of Frost Giants, they just kept coming in waves.

[BigThor]

Will they actually defeat that giant creauture steintym?

[Vartha]

I have a few questions regarding Loki: Is the door left open for him to appear in The Avengers? And are all his scenes in Asgard/Jotunheim or does he come to Earth, too?

Sorry if any of this was asked already, I didn't read the whole thread because I don't want to get too spoilered :cwink:
Oh yeah it's left wide open if you ask me. Loki basically is carried away in Bifrost energy from Thor destroying bifrost.
See what happens is Bifrost CAN'T be connected to one planet for too long or it will destroy that planet.
You SEE Thor and Loki talk about it a bit in the last trailer. Loki sends the Rainbow Bridge to earth allowing Thor, Sif and the Warriors Three to return, but intends to destroy the planet and those Thor now considers friends.
Thor then destroys Bifrost (also seen in the trailer) and Loki ends up floating away into the energy.

[Vartha]

Will they actually defeat that giant creauture steintym?
I don't recall that creature IN the script BT. I think that's an added part like I was saying earlier.
Slepnir is the only creature I recall other than Asgardians, Frost Giants and Humans mentioned.

[BigThor]

Oh ****, Slepnir's gonna be in the film? Yessss :awesome:

Speaking on the creature, I'm glad to see that they've added things of this magnitude to the film. There hasn't been a creature nearly this epic in any Marvel's studios films yet.

[Vartha]

Yeah, just as Thor and Crew are about to be over run by Frost giants early on in the film. Bifrost opens up and Odin rides into Jotunheim on Slepnir. :D Sounds VERY cool.

[steintym]

I don't recall that creature IN the script BT. I think that's an added part like I was saying earlier.
Slepnir is the only creature I recall other than Asgardians, Frost Giants and Humans mentioned.


I agree, I don't recall the creature being mentioned at all. I think that was an add on and we'll have to see how it plays out.

[BigThor]

Sounds cool Vartha, and yeah I think that creature was quite an impressive add on Steintym.

[Manowar]

Woot Sleipner is in the script! I hope it made it to the movie. I remember seeing Odins 2 ravens in the throneroom pic. Were his 2 wolves in the script too?

[Vartha]

I don't remember the Wolves in the script. I would love at some point to see Odin walking down a Hall with the Wolves and ravens following

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, just as Thor and Crew are about to be over run by Frost giants early on in the film. Bifrost opens up and Odin rides into Jotunheim on Slepnir. :D Sounds VERY cool.

This is one of the scenes I'm most looking forward to. Sleipnir on the big screen is gonna be epic!

[lixdexia]

i'm not sure that's going to be in the movie. i remember colm feore talking about some changes to his interaction with odin in that scene that they came up with in rehearsals that were supposed to be very different to the script.

[Vartha]

Man I hope it stays in