View Full Version : Henry Cavill IS Superman: Part III
GreenKToo
02-19-2011, 07:13 AM
@ daywalker..yeah, what you did to the colors does make it look close to the 78 suit imo.
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww182/smokedevil_2009/i-usasuper.jpg
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww182/smokedevil_2009/SuperCavill-78.jpg
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 07:21 AM
I don't want a massive S like Alex Ross you want one thats bigger than the SR's one
Lightning54SC
02-19-2011, 09:33 AM
As much as I like Reeve... could Cavill be any more perfect for Superman? :wow:
SHUT YOUR MOUTH :cmad:, wont happen, he may be a good number 2 but Reeve is the uno mumero supes
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 09:47 AM
They will be good in their own rights and probably different versions. i dont get why everyone has to compare every Superman to Reeve. In my opinion Tim Dalys Superman is the definitive one but I dont compare him to Reeve or Reeves or Cain etc
Zack Snyder
02-19-2011, 11:21 AM
They will be good in their own rights and probably different versions. i dont get why everyone has to compare every Superman to Reeve. In my opinion Tim Dalys Superman is the definitive one but I dont compare him to Reeve or Reeves or Cain etc
The fact that his character is an animated interpretation might also affect comparison.
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 11:36 AM
The fact that his character is an animated interpretation might also affect comparison.
Yes but everyone has their own favourite version some peoples is the John Byrne Superman from the comics, some is Reeve from the movies and so on.
Zack Snyder
02-19-2011, 12:30 PM
Heh heh, Cavill looks like Jude Law in your avatar as Superman :D
Zack Snyder
02-19-2011, 12:31 PM
I never noticed that before. He actually has a resemblance to Law facially. :eek:
StarvingArtist
02-19-2011, 12:36 PM
I never noticed that before. He actually has a resemblance to Law facially. :eek:
Wow, you're right... I guess it's no wonder Law has been a fan favorite pick to play superman since the casting wars over Superman Returns. Compare two actors who could play Superman to another, odds are they'd look similar right?
DavidTyler
02-19-2011, 12:43 PM
makes for a perfect manip! thanks, Supersebas!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/SuperCavill-1.jpg
Head's too small. The manip needs to be tweaked.
04nbod
02-19-2011, 01:48 PM
Especially love the hairstyle on this manip. More modern and manly. Very GQ. Nicely done, DorkyFresh.
My issue of Entertainment Weekly arrived this afternoon, and I was practically drooling over the cover. It's been what, three weeks, since the announcement, and I still cannot believe that we're actually getting Henry Cavill as our next Superman. It's like I'm in a dream and I don't want to wake up.
FANGIRLS FOR SUPERMAN!
Keep it down. People will think we are not here for the story:woot:
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 02:32 PM
I can't stand how they give Superman the exaggeratedly large chest...it doesn't look natural
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 02:32 PM
I can't stand how they give Superman the exaggeratedly large chest...it doesn't look natural
Manip just 4 fun!
http://www.pagexpresso.com.br/reeve_cavill_sm.jpg
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 02:33 PM
SHUT YOUR MOUTH :cmad:, wont happen, he may be a good number 2 but Reeve is the uno mumero supes
When the only other movie Supes is Routh, of course...
Just wait until next year :awesome:
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 02:44 PM
@ daywalker..yeah, what you did to the colors does make it look close to the 78 suit imo.
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww182/smokedevil_2009/i-usasuper.jpg
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww182/smokedevil_2009/SuperCavill-78.jpg
The yellow is wrong and the blue is not this greenish tone. Go watch the movie.
http://www.stardusttrailers.com/gallery_film/(310110000038)Superman_2.jpg
http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/superman-the-movie-hd-dvd-caps-46.jpg
IDK what movie have u been watching...
GreenKToo
02-19-2011, 02:48 PM
I did, I own it..it still looks it.
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 02:51 PM
You must be color blind then...Those desaturated colors are an insult to the bright rich colors of the movie.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 02:52 PM
The ugly colors really seem to be limited to a couple of the promo images, like the flag shot. In most others and the movie, the colors are pretty good.
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 02:54 PM
It has to do with the quality of some shots. In the movie, the costume looks amazing, rich colors and bright. I think you must've been watching SR for far too long. :D
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 03:03 PM
the Reeve suit actually had a greenish tint to it so it would film right back in the day...I love special features
DorkyFresh
02-19-2011, 03:06 PM
yeah, Reeve's suit was actually a bit green in some of the shots from the original film. there were certain times they had to use the greenish suit in order to film on a blue screen background. however, with recent color correction they've fixed this...which is why about the only way you can see the greenish suit on Reeve are in rare photos and VHS tapes.
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 03:13 PM
I know that. Like I said, you cant say that is the color scheme of STM just because of 3 shots...In the movie, it looks great.
Anyways, I hope they straighten Cavill's hair for Superman.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_M-7eCI_N3-A/TEnJTDwnHpI/AAAAAAAAAFk/ifjEH2AXqTU/s512/henry-cavill-neo2-magazine-06.jpg
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 03:16 PM
Anyways, I hope they straighten Cavill's hair for Superman.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_M-7eCI_N3-A/TEnJTDwnHpI/AAAAAAAAAFk/ifjEH2AXqTU/s512/henry-cavill-neo2-magazine-06.jpg
I agree...sometimes his hair just looks too wavey
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 03:39 PM
I'm more interested on if they'll dye his hair black... I really hope so.
I know that. Like I said, you cant say that is the color scheme of STM just because of 3 shots...In the movie, it looks great.
Anyways, I hope they straighten Cavill's hair for Superman.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_M-7eCI_N3-A/TEnJTDwnHpI/AAAAAAAAAFk/ifjEH2AXqTU/s512/henry-cavill-neo2-magazine-06.jpg
I don't. At least, not to that extent.
raybia
02-19-2011, 03:48 PM
that Dorkyfresh manip is the best one you will ever see, quite astonishing.
i modified the colours on it for two different looks. A more brighter comic book look and the Richard Donner 78 style colour scheme. Zack Snyder needs to hire Dorkyfresh to sort out this costume. They better not let Louise Mingenbach anywhere near a costume ever again.
Superman Comic Book Bright Colour Scheme
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/supermansuperman1/SuperCavill-2012.jpg
Superman 78 Colour Scheme
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/supermansuperman1/SuperCavill-78.jpg
Incredible. The problem with manip is that if Snyder's Superman doesn't look like this I will be extremely disappointed.
Showtime
02-19-2011, 03:48 PM
Anyways, I hope they straighten Cavill's hair for Superman.
I actually feel like they are going to keep it more wavy to separate this version from Donnerverse-Singerverse Superman
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/SuperCavill.jpg
That is absolutely fantastic. Liked it so much I sent it my contact at DC.
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 03:52 PM
If Snyder is a traditionalist he will make his hair look like it does in the comic books
raybia
02-19-2011, 03:55 PM
I actually feel like they are going to keep it more wavy to separate this version from Donnerverse-Singerverse Superman
That is absolutely fantastic. Liked it so much I sent it my contact at DC.
If we get this from a visual standpoint it will be truly the Superman of this generation.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 03:58 PM
If we get this from a visual standpoint it will be truly the Superman of this generation.
Definitely. That's truly Superman brought to life :up:
Frankly, I can't imagine Snyder going too far from that... he cast Cavill after all. It's obvious he knows exactly what Superman looks like.
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 04:12 PM
Definitely. That's truly Superman brought to life :up:
Frankly, I can't imagine Snyder going too far from that... he cast Cavill after all. It's obvious he knows exactly what Superman looks like.
:D Great post :up:
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 04:12 PM
I actually feel like they are going to keep it more wavy to separate this version from Donnerverse-Singerverse Superman
I don't care about SR. It should look like his hair in the comics and that is straight wavy hair.
Dean Cain had the best hair.
http://alankistler.squarespace.com/storage/superman/s-shield/Byrne%20Clark%20Designs%20S-Shield.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/RiversKiedis/superman-byrne.jpg
http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2006/06/30/superman-cain.jpg
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 04:13 PM
I actualy thought Gerard Christopher's hair was good
http://img.listal.com/image/850260/600full-gerard-christopher.jpg
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 04:15 PM
^That looks awful.
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 04:17 PM
yeah his hair looks terrible
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 04:23 PM
I don't care about SR. It should look like his hair in the comics and that is straight wavy hair.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/RiversKiedis/superman-byrne.jpg
I've always liked Byrne's hair... not rigid like Routh and Reeve's but loose, with a gentle curl.
WonderWitch
02-19-2011, 04:24 PM
Just curious, Dar. Are we the only two fangirls on this board?? I don't read every thread, and I rarely comment, so I really have no idea.
fangirl here!
ArmsHeldOut
02-19-2011, 04:26 PM
I actually feel like they are going to keep it more wavy to separate this version from Donnerverse-Singerverse Superman.
I think that's the way to go too. Supes' hairstyle looks cool in the comics, but in the real world, not so much. You either have straight hair, wavy hair or you have curly hair. A single curl that oddly looks like a perfectly shaped S seems out of place (to me) on a head of straight hair.
Jim Lee actually said that Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent look virtually identical (in the comics) with the exception that Clark's hair is somewhat more wavy. Lee's interpretation of Supes was based on that. And I think DF's manip echoes that.
ArmsHeldOut
02-19-2011, 04:34 PM
I don't care about SR. It should look like his hair in the comics and that is straight wavy hair.
Dean Cain had the best hair.
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In the pic you chose to use an example, he did, however this is what it looked like most of the time on that series.
http://www.**************.com/images/users/uploads/10959/dean-cain-superman1.jpg
Fail.
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 04:35 PM
I cant help but laugh when I see Dain Cain in that costume
Project862006
02-19-2011, 04:36 PM
i like Cavill's hair as is
http://www.sugarslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Henry-Cavill-Is-Superman.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1237/henrycavillissuperman.jpg
http://www.seanborggoesla.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Henry-Cavill-henry-cavill-8869929-500-333-374x249.jpg
GoblinWhirlwind
02-19-2011, 04:37 PM
Yeah, that's good too :up:
BH/HHH
02-19-2011, 04:38 PM
Agreed :up:
Sebastos
02-19-2011, 04:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/SuperCavill.jpg
That is the best manip of Cavill yet, well done. :up: :up:
ArmsHeldOut
02-19-2011, 04:42 PM
i like Cavill's hair as is
Yeah, they don't need to change it much for the Superman role in my opinion. Dye it black and refrain from using too much goop; and you're good to go.
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 04:53 PM
That hair on Cavill's photos looks good. But not the one from the EW magazine.
Rowsdower!
02-19-2011, 05:01 PM
http://img.listal.com/image/850260/600full-gerard-christopher.jpg
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flickchick85
02-19-2011, 05:42 PM
Just curious, Dar. Are we the only two fangirls on this board?? I don't read every thread, and I rarely comment, so I really have no idea.
*raises hand* Nope you've got another one right here!
Regarding the hair, I've said in the past that I would ideally want his hair to resemble Matt Bomer's...but if we're going off of hairstyles that Cavill himself has had in the past, I'd prefer it to be less like those photo shoot pics from above (that just looks weighted down by product and crispy and sad, imo), and closer to his hairstyles from the middle seasons of The Tudors (but minus the scruff, of course, and a little shorter in the back/sides):
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/592/hctudors021020091010204.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4158/hc0130.jpg
And at least one of those haircuts, if I'm not mistaken, is what he had when this "windblown" photo-shoot was taken:
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/452/hc2zok7b6.jpg
Which is obviously a little too "wild" for Supes, but the point is, there's definitely some versatility in looks with that hair.
*raises hand* Nope you've got another one right here!
Woo hoo! Dar, WonderWitch, 04nbod, and flickchick85--I have a feeling that next year after the rest of the world catches a glimpse of Henry Cavill in the cape and tights, there is going to be an explosion of fangirls like us!
Man of Tomorrow
02-19-2011, 06:12 PM
As long as the movie itself doesn't cater to fangirls, like Smallville and Lois and Clark do, it's all good.
I'm 100% certain it won't given Nolan's approval of the script, and the TDK writers attached. I'm sure we're getting a product with the same serious approach as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
This board won't be turning into the next Kryptonsite, thank Zod.
SuperDaniel
02-19-2011, 07:04 PM
*raises hand* Nope you've got another one right here!
Regarding the hair, I've said in the past that I would ideally want his hair to resemble Matt Bomer's...but if we're going off of hairstyles that Cavill himself has had in the past, I'd prefer it to be less like those photo shoot pics from above (that just looks weighted down by product and crispy and sad, imo), and closer to his hairstyles from the middle seasons of The Tudors (but minus the scruff, of course, and a little shorter in the back/sides):
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/592/hctudors021020091010204.jpg
This is almost perfect.
And so is this:
http://willitsuck.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/henry-cavill1.jpg?w=334&h=447
http://mrcavill.com/gallery/albums/television/2007/tudors/caps/season3/tudors307caps/vlcsnap-10500029.jpg
raybia
02-19-2011, 08:36 PM
As long as the movie itself doesn't cater to fangirls, like Smallville and Lois and Clark do, it's all good.
I'm 100% certain it won't given Nolan's approval of the script, and the TDK writers attached. I'm sure we're getting a product with the same serious approach as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
I hope so. I have the feeling that this is WB last chance to get this right. They need to approach this the same way Cameron approached Avatar.
This is movie is a big deal and should be treated as such. Having Nolan grandfather it is a sign that WB is treating this production seriously but I'm still kind of holding my breath with Snyder. Plus I've heard there are script problems.
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 08:41 PM
I'm not worried about the script
raybia
02-19-2011, 08:48 PM
That doesn't take away from the issue of script problems.
Kal-El.9859
02-19-2011, 08:50 PM
That's old news from semi-unreliable sources and if it were true all they have to do is go to DC and get help from the Superman writers
raybia
02-19-2011, 09:18 PM
That's old news from semi-unreliable sources and if it were true all they have to do is go to DC and get help from the Superman writers
Yeah that sound like a reasonable thing to do but for whatever reason it does normally happen or else I'm sure SR and S:III and IV would have been better.
WonderWitch
02-19-2011, 09:25 PM
As long as the movie itself doesn't cater to fangirls, like Smallville and Lois and Clark do, it's all good.
I'm 100% certain it won't given Nolan's approval of the script, and the TDK writers attached. I'm sure we're getting a product with the same serious approach as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
This board won't be turning into the next Kryptonsite, thank Zod.
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
That entire sexuality discussion was definitely not supported by many posters at all, if any. Most of the heated back-and-forth was regarding its validity.
As evidenced by the overwhelming response here when Cavill was cast, fanboys are generally responding great to him. It's no surprise since he's been prevalent to the boards for the better part of the past decade.
raybia
02-19-2011, 09:37 PM
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
Great post!
I Am The Knight
02-19-2011, 10:24 PM
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
LOL, great post :woot:
RachelDawes
02-19-2011, 10:32 PM
Here's another fangirl! I read this board all the time but don't always post.
I cant help but laugh when I see Dain Cain in that costume
I know. It's always looked to me like he's wearing a diaper. :funny:
Dark Knight
02-20-2011, 12:33 AM
That doesn't take away from the issue of script problems.
Script problems? :huh:
Dark Knight
02-20-2011, 12:42 AM
i like Cavill's hair as is
http://www.sugarslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Henry-Cavill-Is-Superman.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1237/henrycavillissuperman.jpg
http://www.seanborggoesla.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Henry-Cavill-henry-cavill-8869929-500-333-374x249.jpg
Good Superman hair here. Just a little trim in the back and it's good.
Kal-El.9859
02-20-2011, 12:43 AM
supposed third act problems
I Am The Knight
02-20-2011, 01:00 AM
Huh? Never heard of that.
Dark Knight
02-20-2011, 01:02 AM
supposed third act problems
Who said that? The script has not been leaked.
DCnightwing23
02-20-2011, 01:05 AM
Oh i believe hes talking about the supposed script problems for the film, i believe it was on ************** a couple weeks ago. All rumors, which i dont believe. Goer and Nolan are behind the script so im pretty darn sure the script is solid.
DorkyFresh
02-20-2011, 01:05 AM
there was a recent news report about Sucker Punch not testing well with test audiences. the same report said that Superman is in full speed but is having problems with the script, specifically the 3rd act. it was a few days ago...i'm honestly not trying to search through the pages to find the link.
Dark Knight
02-20-2011, 01:25 AM
Oh i believe hes talking about the supposed script problems for the film, i believe it was on ************** a couple weeks ago. All rumors, which i dont believe. Goer and Nolan are behind the script so im pretty darn sure the script is solid.
Oh was this from the always "reliable" ************** or vulture sites?
haha....right.
Even if there is 3rd act problems with the script, that's nothing new when it comes to comic genre films. Plus they don't start shooting until freakin August. It's not like they will be shooting next month. Goyer, Nolan and Snyder are probably still working on script details and will be up until principle shooting.
Nothing to panic about even IF those reports were true....which I doubt.
Kal-El.9859
02-20-2011, 02:04 AM
I'm not worried as I said before...plenty of time to get things worked out if there was even any problems to begin with
knowsbleed
02-20-2011, 02:12 AM
I don't care about SR. It should look like his hair in the comics and that is straight wavy hair.
Oxymoron much?
Kal-El.9859
02-20-2011, 02:19 AM
I kinda noticed that earlier but didn't put much into it..
SatEL
02-20-2011, 02:35 AM
As long as the movie itself doesn't cater to fangirls, like Smallville and Lois and Clark do, it's all good.
I'm 100% certain it won't given Nolan's approval of the script, and the TDK writers attached. I'm sure we're getting a product with the same serious approach as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
This board won't be turning into the next Kryptonsite, thank Zod.
Jonathan Nolan was involved in the script?
Kal-El.9859
02-20-2011, 02:48 AM
No, They are referring to Chris. As far as we know Jonathan has nothing to do with the script as of yet anyway. He could come on to help clean things up...
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 03:26 AM
I know. It's always looked to me like he's wearing a diaper. :funny:
I know :woot:
Also that belt looks like it came from an action figure, its just a good job that pic didn't show the god awful boots :D
04nbod
02-20-2011, 05:44 AM
As long as the movie itself doesn't cater to fangirls, like Smallville and Lois and Clark do, it's all good.
I'm 100% certain it won't given Nolan's approval of the script, and the TDK writers attached. I'm sure we're getting a product with the same serious approach as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
This board won't be turning into the next Kryptonsite, thank Zod.
As a Smallville 'fan' I can honestly say that most fangirls are annoyed at the ludicrous wedding planning the series is currently treating us to and we want to see more of Darkseid. I don't even know why they are getting married. The mysteries of Smallville and their intent to fill space with stuff just a little better than dead air
plugginmuffin
02-20-2011, 05:54 AM
That doesn't take away from the issue of script problems.
Yeah, frankly I'm a little worried about script problems too. I just hope none of which has been rumored to come out of the production is true. I really hope they aren't planning to rehash any General Zod arcs. Supes's got a fantastic rogue gallery that hasn't been really tapped into in the movieverus, I'm still hoping for Braniac or Parasite or my favourite, Metallo. I don't know how I feel about the rumor it might be an origin story, but it's probably true based on the success of Batman Begins. I just hope the complications are all worked out and it isn't rushed.
Ok, strange question: do you think they'll wax Cavill's bodyhair for this one?
Alot of athletes and bodybuilders do this and I can see them doing it for making Cavill look more "evolved" and streamlined as well as practical reasons regarding the suit.
Dont think any live-action Superman this far has had alot of bodyhair.
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 09:53 AM
Ok, strange question: do you think they'll wax Cavill's bodyhair for this one?
Alot of athletes and bodybuilders do this and I can see them doing it for making Cavill look more "evolved" and streamlined as well as practical reasons regarding the suit.
Dont think any live-action Superman this far has had alot of bodyhair.
There's a big discussion about that over on the Henry Cavill forums and they all want him to keep it :D
Personally I think they should wax it if they're going to do some of the Africa scenes from Birthright, however in some scenes in Birthright he clearly has chest hair aswell.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4rAlOi6qTE8/SX0evMTLU7I/AAAAAAAABLk/UYWGij5nYsw/s400/Yu+Alanguilan+Superman+Birthright+2.jpg
Guess its just a director decision
Ok, strange question: do you think they'll wax Cavill's bodyhair for this one?
Alot of athletes and bodybuilders do this and I can see them doing it for making Cavill look more "evolved" and streamlined as well as practical reasons regarding the suit.
Dont think any live-action Superman this far has had alot of bodyhair.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__jp1MTXgDf0/TQ-dlmEhGTI/AAAAAAAAAoo/tTzutfbZiRY/s1600/death_of_superman.jpg
http://www.theendisnigel.com/john/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/superman-vs-doomsday.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YUUAn5bgpwo/Rj6mrN82zXI/AAAAAAAAAZw/HDKkfnZVl9g/s400/superman8a.jpg
Compi716
02-20-2011, 10:02 AM
Superman is a man's man.
There's a big discussion about that over on the Henry Cavill forums and they all want him to keep it :D
Personally I think they should wax it if they're going to do some of the Africa scenes from Birthright, however in some scenes in Birthright he clearly has chest hair aswell.
Guess its just a director decision
Maybe, but I think in the end it comes down to the suit-department.
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 10:10 AM
Maybe, but I think in the end it comes down to the suit-department.
Yeah probably right actually
Kalonthar
02-20-2011, 10:14 AM
Just be mindful of chest hair...
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7299/superfrakes.jpg
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 10:15 AM
Just be mindful of chest hair...
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7299/superfrakes.jpg
Ha ha is that from Lois & Clark?
Kalonthar
02-20-2011, 10:19 AM
Yeah, I saw a prime opportunity for that because I distinctly remember his chest hair sticking out, and I haven't seen the episode in a long time, so it's sad that stayed with me.
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 10:29 AM
Yeah, I saw a prime opportunity for that because I distinctly remember his chest hair sticking out, and I haven't seen the episode in a long time, so it's sad that stayed with me.
Ha ha I cant remember it
Just be mindful of chest hair...
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7299/superfrakes.jpg
Thanks for the reminder, Kalonthar. Now excuse me while I go rinse my eyes with acid.
SuperMike335!!
02-20-2011, 11:45 AM
Needs to KEEP the chest hair.
It is Manly.
I'm all about him having as big of muscles as he can get, but he is not a waxed bodybuilder.
He needs to keep the chest hair.
Why do you think Bill Goldberg left his chest hair on, even when he was a wrestler? It just made him look a bit manlier in an industry filled with shaved chests.
GlasgowBat
02-20-2011, 12:28 PM
Besides, Given how difficult it must be to lose facial hair in the first place, he really isn't going to waste time heat-vision-off-a-mirror-ing his whole torso, is he?
That would be absurd.
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
Outstanding post, QFT :up:
SatEL
02-20-2011, 01:53 PM
Cavill should wax, no shame in that. A shaved body is better for definition anyway and it will draw in those teenage girls who would otherwise say ewwwww body hair is disgusting. Here is a bit of info for you folks Welling also shaves his chest on Smallville (although I am sure its not by choice).
BH/HHH
02-20-2011, 01:55 PM
I can't believe we're talking about body hair ha ha
I would prefer it if it weren't there to be honest and for those who say its more manly it looks better when you're toned n you don't have body hair.
Rowsdower!
02-20-2011, 02:46 PM
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
Excellent post. And I agree with you; the sexism on these boards gets way out of hand. Not from everyone, obviously, but there are quite a few people here who seem to think that all women care about is the latest Katherine Heigl rom-crap or Robert Pattinson's hair.
It gets really bizarre when you read some of the posts concerning these movies. I understand that a lot of people didn't like the Rachel character in the Nolan Batman films. Fair enough. She wasn't my favorite either, mainly because I didn't see a need to introduce a new love interest when the Batman universe has plenty to choose from. But regardless, people were ranting about it - not just because of the character herself or the actress - but because there was a love story in the first place. I think the most annoying argument was "Rachel shouldn't have been there... it should have been Harvey Dent in the first film and there should have been no love interest at all."
People need to understand that these films are meant to appeal to a broad audience. They're not Reservoir Dogs or Glengarry Glen Ross. Not including a female castmember doesn't fly in a mainstream movie. And the love interest thing? Hell, I'm a guy and I like seeing that element in these movies as long as they do it well. The love story in the first and second Superman was good. The love story in the first two Spider-Man films worked (even if Dunst was a bit weak). There's no reason it can't work in Batman, this new Superman or anywhere else. Superman especially, because Lois is integral to his story.
Yet you read through some of these posts and you see the same stuff. "Lois shouldn't be central to the story." "I don't want this to turn into a Twlight movie." "Such-and-such actress shouldn't play Lois because I don't want to bang her." Now granted, of course I want to find the actress playing Lois attractive, but some guys on here are acting as if that's the only criteria for casting the role. And why not? Apparently they want her to do nothing but walk into the room once in a while and strike a sexy pose.
Anyway, I'll get off my high horse now. Just wanted voice my opinions on some of the stuff I've seen around here that's left me doing the facepalm from time to time.
flickchick85
02-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Woo hoo! Dar, WonderWitch, 04nbod, and flickchick85--I have a feeling that next year after the rest of the world catches a glimpse of Henry Cavill in the cape and tights, there is going to be an explosion of fangirls like us!
There will be dozens of us! Dozens!!! :awesome:
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
Awesome post. I agree wholeheartedly. :up:
GoblinWhirlwind
02-20-2011, 03:24 PM
Needs to KEEP the chest hair.
It is Manly.
I'm all about him having as big of muscles as he can get, but he is not a waxed bodybuilder.
He needs to keep the chest hair.
Why do you think Bill Goldberg left his chest hair on, even when he was a wrestler? It just made him look a bit manlier in an industry filled with shaved chests.
If there happens to be a shirtless scene in the movie, fine... but I DON'T want to see chest hair spilling out of the neckline.
04nbod
02-20-2011, 03:58 PM
I can't believe we're talking about body hair ha ha
I would prefer it if it weren't there to be honest and for those who say its more manly it looks better when you're toned n you don't have body hair.
It will be waxed and then carefully sculpted into a piece for his non-receeding hairline:awesome:
plugginmuffin
02-20-2011, 04:26 PM
Let him be natural, Bruce Wayne had a bit of chest hair in Dark Knight, and that looked good. I wouldn't think it'd be that noticable under the suit.
alternateGambit
02-20-2011, 04:26 PM
You know, the casting of Cavill really is perfect on so many levels, and I'm just speaking from a marketing standpoint. Obviously he's a proven actor and looks the part enough that he'll be very convincing in the role, but he also adds something that Superman (in the public's eyes) has been somewhat devoid of. He makes the character seem fresh and appealing.
Being a Brit adds some attention, like some posters have mentioned. Sure, some uptight people are up in arms over it (sorry Emaciated Hollywood Boulevard Superman), but people in the UK are very excited. And worldwide audiences are always a question mark when it comes to genre films. We know Americans will go see it, but what about everyone else? This is one of the reasons why Captain America had trouble getting off the ground and since Superman is also viewed as an American icon, it's questionable how the film might do overseas. But Brits are likely to come out for Cavill, and possibly mainland Europeans as well. I realize that I might be totally wrong, but I think it shows everyone that WB wasn't as close-minded as many assumed they were.
Also, ladies LOVE this guy. Not trying to take anything away from other actors who have played Big Blue, but this is one time where I can actually see women flocking to a superhero film. And unlike some other Brit sex symbols **cough**Pattinson**cough** Cavill is a real actor.
I'm de-lurking here a bit since I fall under the category you're mentioning: female and from mainland Europe :woot:. The general buzz with comic addicts here (Romania) is that everyone likes the casting of a Brit (not to offensive to anyone, but we tend to like British a bit more than Americans... bonding over the old continent and all that s**t).
Also, ironically enough I heard the casting news about 1 week after starting watching The Tudors (pushed by my girfriends who are totally nuts about Henry). When I told them "You know, the guy playing Charles Brandon has been cast as the new Supermen" they all went "That is one superhero movie I might just see!".
I'm really hoping everything else with the project will be at least as good as the casting!
SuperMike335!!
02-20-2011, 04:46 PM
If there happens to be a shirtless scene in the movie, fine... but I DON'T want to see chest hair spilling out of the neckline.
Could do a bit of both, or rather take an electric clippers and trip it down to a No.1 or No.2 guard.
That way in a shirtless scene he has chest hair, and it "looks" natural, but it won’t be long enough to be bushy or visible in the suit.
Shave it entirely away from his collar bone area and the top of the chest if it a wide collar on the suit. Because of the downward direction growth of chest hair, if the rest of it is at a trimmed length it will look natural, as body hair length varies on men anyway.
I actually use the clipper & guard method myself because otherwise I get ape hairy, and I prefer not to have the 100% shaved look either. That and its quick and does not itch in clothes.
cronosred
02-20-2011, 06:03 PM
Cavill should wax, no shame in that. A shaved body is better for definition anyway and it will draw in those teenage girls who would otherwise say ewwwww body hair is disgusting. Here is a bit of info for you folks Welling also shaves his chest on Smallville (although I am sure its not by choice).
I'd say let him keep his chest hair, I didn't hear anyone complain about Chris Evans chest in Fantastic Four 1, or 2.
Project862006
02-20-2011, 06:15 PM
^ did you not enter the cap threads lol
Wow, condescending much? because fangirls couldn't possibly be concerned with a quality movie being made! All we want is shirtless men! or a wedding! or babies! or Jennifer Aniston finally finding true loveeeeeee!!!!
Please, don't be silly. Its that attitude that has kept good movies with female leads or catering to women from being made, the underlying idea that any movie that will appeal to females won't be watched by men, and that women are content with watching the same kate hudson romcom over and over again.
Personally I am happy that this movie seems to be on the right track, with a good director, awesome producer, and a great actor who seems perfect for the job. Hopefully this will help erase the memory of Returns which if i remember correctly is beloved by many a fanboy who would put female twilight worshippers to shame. (ok, not really, those twilight people are a special brand of crazy).if alot of crazy fanBOYS had their way Henry Cavill would not be the next superman because of his citizenship and rumored "gayness" (he isn't, not that it matters), although he is otherwise pretty perfect for the part.
furthermore unless i'm incorrect i feel like way more guys watch smallville than girls do, and while i wasn't around for lois & clark i don't feel like you can blame the female viewership for any shortcomings. personally i find smallville ridiculous but fun to tune into from time to time, and i'm way more excited for this movie to blow all other superman related entertainment out of the water!
so please, tread lightly and think before you say something similar in the future. I found it pretty insulting and i think the other girls on here probably don't appreciate such comments either.
:up:
If there happens to be a shirtless scene in the movie, fine... but I DON'T want to see chest hair spilling out of the neckline.
I concur. Chest hair is manly, but could be odd to have it peeking out the top of the suit.
The Shield
02-20-2011, 07:24 PM
o.m.g...... Are Ya'll really talking chest hair?? Hahahahahhahahahaha.....!!!!!
Now I'm guitly of nit picking over how I want the actor playing Superman to look... I mean I ripped SR and Routh apart... But chest hair guys? Chest hair?? Wow :woot:
I must admit though, I love that everyone here is so in to this as much as I am. It's lonely out there being such a Super fan of this character. :up:
Rowsdower!
02-20-2011, 08:21 PM
I'm de-lurking here a bit since I fall under the category you're mentioning: female and from mainland Europe :woot:. The general buzz with comic addicts here (Romania) is that everyone likes the casting of a Brit (not to offensive to anyone, but we tend to like British a bit more than Americans... bonding over the old continent and all that s**t).
Also, ironically enough I heard the casting news about 1 week after starting watching The Tudors (pushed by my girfriends who are totally nuts about Henry). When I told them "You know, the guy playing Charles Brandon has been cast as the new Supermen" they all went "That is one superhero movie I might just see!".
I'm really hoping everything else with the project will be at least as good as the casting!
Haha, good to hear that this new Superman film has a great chance of appealing to European audiences and to the ladies. I figured that would be the case with Henry, since damn near every female Tudors fan I've ever met loooooooves Cavill on that show.
Superark
02-20-2011, 09:33 PM
I've warmed up a little but to the fact Cavill is playing Superman. Maybe it's because I'm trying to remain optimistic about the project or because of a couple of charming things he has said about being chosen for the role in EW magizine. I don't know but I don't dislike it as much as I did.
However, when I showed the cover of EW with Cavill on it to 3 different people, the response was not good. I surely hope Snyder and WB do a good job with the first official Superman pic with Cavill.
I Am The Knight
02-20-2011, 09:38 PM
Keep the chest hair. It's SuperMAN after all. And I think it looks good.
Project862006
02-20-2011, 09:49 PM
^ there is no chest hair on krypton
:ikyn
I Am The Knight
02-20-2011, 09:54 PM
^ there is no chest hair on krypton
:ikyn
Huh?
C. Lee
02-20-2011, 10:12 PM
There's nothing wrong with chest hair....mine was a great conversation starter in kindergarten.....
I've warmed up a little but to the fact Cavill is playing Superman. Maybe it's because I'm trying to remain optimistic about the project or because of a couple of charming things he has said about being chosen for the role in EW magizine. I don't know but I don't dislike it as much as I did.
However, when I showed the cover of EW with Cavill on it to 3 different people, the response was not good. I surely hope Snyder and WB do a good job with the first official Superman pic with Cavill.
Look, Cavill wasn't my choice for the role either and I shed no tears when it looked like he had no chance of getting it (how wrong we were about that), but you're acting as if he's some bizarre choice that hasn't got a lot going for him.
"hope Snyder and WB do a good job with the first official pic"? I think you're confusing the fact he wasn't your choice with the idea that somehow he's someone who needs a lot of work to pull off the character.
StarvingArtist
02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
There's nothing wrong with chest hair....mine was a great conversation starter in kindergarten.....
HAHAHHA....C. Lee out of the shadows with that one :) Awesome
Superark
02-20-2011, 10:38 PM
Look, Cavill wasn't my choice for the role either and I shed no tears when it looked like he had no chance of getting it (how wrong we were about that), but you're acting as if he's some bizarre choice that hasn't got a lot going for him.
"hope Snyder and WB do a good job with the first official pic"? I think you're confusing the fact he wasn't your choice with the idea that somehow he's someone who needs a lot of work to pull off the character.
No I'm just pointing out that anyone I've talked to about the new Superman and those I've shown the EW cover to had a negative response. Granted it was only a few people, but no one thought he screamed Superman. It has nothing to do with who was or wasn't my choice.
I thought it was an interesting observation to share. Just the fact folks I've talked to had that reaction to him, it give me some belief WB needs to put out a really good pic of Cavill as Superman when they officially release it.
Despite whatever you might think, I really want Cavill to do great in the role and the new film to succeed. I'm a Superman fan above all else
Superman Prime
02-20-2011, 10:43 PM
No I'm just pointing out that anyone I've talked to about the new Superman and those I've shown the EW cover to had a negative response. Granted it was only a few people, but no one thought he screamed Superman. It has nothing to do with who was or wasn't my choice.
I thought it was an interesting observation to share. Just the fact folks I've talked to had that reaction to him, it give me some belief WB needs to put out a really good pic of Cavill as Superman when they officially release it.
Despite whatever you might think, I really want Cavill to do great in the role and the new film to succeed. I'm a Superman fan above all else
A great first trailer is several thousand times more important.
And what exactly did your friends dislike about the cover?
DorkyFresh
02-20-2011, 10:47 PM
i showed the EW cover to my 66 year old mom who could care less about Superman (she even forgot about seeing SR) and here's what she said...
"he's got beautiful eyes! he's certainly charming!"
...she didn't comment on whether he looked like Superman though.
Superark
02-20-2011, 10:51 PM
A great first trailer is several thousand times more important.
And what exactly did your friends dislike about the cover?
Agreed. A good promo pic of Cavill in the suit and a great trailer will do a lot to get the GA excited
My buddy Steve said they could do much better and just didn't like the guy the look of the guy. He wondered why "the other guy wasn't coming back" One girl just shook her head no and thought he looked goofy. My Ma just paused for a real long time thinking and said "he looks like he should be on Desperate Housewives." Of course she would have liked Ryan Reynolds to be Superman lol. But Not exactly good responses.
Well, in those kind of situations the reactions you get are usually based on how you presented the question.
Bruce_Begins
02-20-2011, 11:01 PM
We know Americans will go see it, but what about everyone else? This is one of the reasons why Captain America had trouble getting off the ground and since Superman is also viewed as an American icon, it's questionable how the film might do overseas.
Superman is a Superhero with a global fan following unlike Captain America and he is always expected to do better overseas but that ultimately depends on how entertaining the movie is, in case of SR it was not a fun, entertaining movie, had it been a summer popcorn movie it would have made twice the money overseas.
Yeah, Superman is a worldwide phenomenon, the only people that see him as being an American icon are Americans.
Superark
02-20-2011, 11:03 PM
Well, in those kind of situations the reactions you get are usually based on how you presented the question.
- "This is the new Superman"
- "Oh really?"
- "Yea. So what do you think?"
Bruce_Begins
02-20-2011, 11:09 PM
In case of Brandon Routh is looks like Superman (to most of the people, IMO.) even if he is not in costume, that may be because he has some resemblance to Chris Reeve, so convincing anyone that he should be Superman is not difficult (but that is not happening .), in case Cavill he has Superman look but he also has soft looks so maybe WB are making him a bit more muscular by making him undergo training at Gym Jones, and they will have to get good costume, make up to make him a perfect Superman, it can be done.
SuperDaniel
02-20-2011, 11:11 PM
They are all blind or have no idea what Superman looks like. Cavill is perfect. Get over it.
Bruce_Begins
02-20-2011, 11:16 PM
They are all blind or have no idea what Superman looks like. Cavill is perfect. Get over it.
I support him, and he was my second choice to play Superman, I was just replying to the the question as why some people need to be convinced that he can be a good Superman.
I've warmed up a little but to the fact Cavill is playing Superman. Maybe it's because I'm trying to remain optimistic about the project or because of a couple of charming things he has said about being chosen for the role in EW magizine. I don't know but I don't dislike it as much as I did.
However, when I showed the cover of EW with Cavill on it to 3 different people, the response was not good. I surely hope Snyder and WB do a good job with the first official Superman pic with Cavill.
I'm biased so I think the cover looks great, but it's not the best photo of Henry, and for a guy who takes really good photos, it's not the one I would've chosen to introduce him to the world (looks overstyled and doesn't show off his square jaw to best advantage -- let's not forget the rest of the world hasn't been googling photos of him all this time and studying his, um, angles LOL -- though the smiling photo inside has elicited some enthusiastic oooohs from female co-workers, along with how well he comes off in the accompanying story) -- but I'm not worried, I think the masses will be pleasantly surprised. He's absolutely perfect for this :yay:
SuperDaniel
02-21-2011, 12:36 AM
I support him, and he was my second choice to play Superman, I was just replying to the the question as why some people need to be convinced that he can be a good Superman.
I know. I wasnt aiming at you. I was talking about Superark saying that nobody who saw Cavill pic from EW thought he looked like Superman.
Superark
02-21-2011, 06:45 AM
They are all blind or have no idea what Superman looks like. Cavill is perfect. Get over it.
I know. I wasnt aiming at you. I was talking about Superark saying that nobody who saw Cavill pic from EW thought he looked like Superman.
See this is exactly why I ask people other than internet posters what they think and why fanboys have the reputation they do. Some posters are too wrapped up in their opinions like they are fact and often have responses like this.
I for one have warmed up to Cavill and it is largely because of the EW article that just came out and the guy has my support.
Superark
02-21-2011, 07:03 AM
I thought this was an excellent manip of Cavill as Superman
http://www.deviantart.com/download/195813089/henry_cavill_superman___poster___by_b_el-d38kych.jpg
romeogbs19
02-21-2011, 10:19 AM
An amusing satirical piece from today's Huffington Post:
Paul Dailing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-dailing)
Editor, Tinley Park Patch
Posted: February 21, 2011 01:20 AM
Dear Britain: Give Us Back Superman, or We're Taking "Doctor Who" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-dailing/dear-britain-give-us-back_b_825571.html)
Batman wasn't enough? Huh? You weren't happy having a British guy playing the Dark Knight (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/)?
No. You had to try for more.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield)
Spider-Man was next (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield) on your little fictional-character Lebensraum. OK, watching Tobey Maguire's spider-powered dance routine in the last movie paved the way for pretty much anyone to come in and, when it comes to pale, anemic Peter Parker types, you have to go to the source.
Then you went too far. You took Superman.
I am of course referring to the casting of British actor Henry Cavill (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1656918/superman-henry-cavill.jhtml) as that American icon, Superman. I mean no offense to Mr. Cavill or, as I'm sure his real name is, either Sir Nigel Bevinal Cavill-Cuffington IV or Declan from a sink estate in North Peckham.
I'm not opposed to foreign superheroes. Dang it, I liked the Aussie Hulk (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051509/) and Wolverine is not supposed to be an American anyway. And who else could be Professor X but the British guy famous for playing a French spaceship captain with an American accent (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/)?
But you people don't have guns! Do you even know how fast a speeding bullet is? (In miles per hour. None of your kilometer nonsense.)
I know we're not innocent. I am sorry about the Yankee Sherlock Holmes, but he was cast by one of your guys (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005363/). As for Bridget Jones, yes, we gave you a non-Austin Texan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000250/) as your archetypal London professional, but you gave us Bridget Jones. There are no winners here.
Considering one out of every four Britons has a recurring role in the Harry Potter franchise we're bankrolling, couldn't you leave us the Man of Steel? He's not as American as apple pie. Apple pie is as American as Superman.
You leave us no choice, Britain. We're going to have an American Doctor Who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who).
I can hear you laughing. "Ha ha ha," you would say, if anyone in your country could properly pronounce the letter H. "But 'oo 'ere could play the bleedin' Doctor? 'E's as British as shepherd's pie."
Laugh away, Britain. Laugh as if it's as funny as the American "Office" when really it's as sad as the British "That '70s Show." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_Like_These)
We have a Doctor at the ready, a man who can embody the wit of a Peter Davison, the frantic quirkiness of a Matt Smith, the innocent confusion of a Tom Baker and the slim-fitting suits of a David Tennant...
... Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Coyne).
Oklahoman Coyne has the spot down. Everything about Coyne screams the three features a Doctor needs to have: intelligence, otherworldliness, weird clothes. He's even got experience playing an alien (http://www.christmasonmarsmovie.com/)!
Give us back Superman or we're taking The Doctor and turning the TARDIS into a human-sized hamster ball. Krypton for Gallifrey. It's a fair trade.
How could an immigrant like Cavill relate to the story of a man who rocketed to America from a faraway land only to find safe haven and opportunity on these shores? How could he portray the character we love from comics written by men like Alan Moore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Moore), James Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robinson_%28comics%29) and current Action Comics scribe Paul Cornell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cornell)?
Back off on Kent, Britannia. Or wait to hear the TARDIS doors whoosh open to reveal new companion Larry the Cable Guy say "It's bigger on the inside, y'all."
RachelDawes
02-21-2011, 12:36 PM
I'm biased so I think the cover looks great, but it's not the best photo of Henry, and for a guy who takes really good photos, it's not the one I would've chosen to introduce him to the world (looks overstyled and doesn't show off his square jaw to best advantage -- let's not forget the rest of the world hasn't been googling photos of him all this time and studying his, um, angles LOL -- though the smiling photo inside has elicited some enthusiastic oooohs from female co-workers, along with how well he comes off in the accompanying story) -- but I'm not worried, I think the masses will be pleasantly surprised. He's absolutely perfect for this :yay:
I really hate how they styled Cavill's hair on that cover. I hope it looks nothing like that in the movie.
BH/HHH
02-21-2011, 12:39 PM
Superman is Kryptonian, not American :p
End of the day its the best actor for the part regardless of nationality
Superman-Prime
02-21-2011, 12:52 PM
I still do not accept Henry Cavill as Superman. HMPH.
And also, I refuse to watch the movie and also I refuse to support the movie. I hope the movie fails.
FilmNerdJamie
02-21-2011, 12:57 PM
I find people who say "I'm protesting this!" generally speaking do in fact watch the thing in question - in this case the Superman reboot.
Changeling
02-21-2011, 01:00 PM
I still do not accept Henry Cavill as Superman. HMPH.
And also, I refuse to watch the movie and also I refuse to support the movie. I hope the movie fails.
Wow, get over yourself dude. You're really immature.
Superman Prime
02-21-2011, 01:01 PM
I still do not accept Henry Cavill as Superman. HMPH.
And also, I refuse to watch the movie and also I refuse to support the movie. I hope the movie fails.
Then your input in this forum after its release is going to be even more useless than it is now.
Superman-Prime
02-21-2011, 01:02 PM
Wow, get over yourself dude. You're really immature.
Why, thank you! :)
HighFivingMF
02-21-2011, 01:04 PM
I still do not accept Henry Cavill as Superman. HMPH.
And also, I refuse to watch the movie and also I refuse to support the movie. I hope the movie fails.
Then... Go away?
Changeling
02-21-2011, 01:05 PM
Why, thank you! :)
Haha you're welcome. I seriously do not know why you're posting in this thread dude. Pretty much every body in here is gonna be hating on you for your childish immature comments. Get over it, Henry Cavill is Superman and theres not **** you can do about it :)
elgaz
02-21-2011, 01:07 PM
I still do not accept Henry Cavill as Superman. HMPH.
And also, I refuse to watch the movie and also I refuse to support the movie. I hope the movie fails.
Wow.
Dude, you're not a Superman fan. You may think you are. But deep inside, you're nothing more than a Routh-obsessed fanboy who - like any fanatic - is totally unable to see past your own obsession.
Superman has been portrayed by many actors and voice actors over the years, and been written and drawn in many different styles. Why you're fixated on one incarnation is beyond me, but it suggests a very narrow minded viewpoint which ultimately will be your loss and not ours. And ironically, it's an incarnation which was far from being the definitive portrayal of Superman and had many flaws, so your faith is somewhat misguided.
Shame really .............. if all goes according to plan for Snyder you'll be missing out on a fantastic Superman movie.
Superman-Prime
02-21-2011, 01:09 PM
Haha you're welcome. I seriously do not know why you're posting in this thread dude. Pretty much every body in here is gonna be hating on you for your childish immature comments. Get over it, Henry Cavill is Superman and theres not **** you can do about it :)
Of course, there's nothing I can do.
I'm a fan of Superman for many years and I still don't see Henry Cavill as Superman. I couldn't, really. As you know, I'm a fan of SR and Brandon Routh.
C. Lee
02-21-2011, 01:11 PM
I hope the movie fails.
Not liking an actor, director, or the way a movie looks like and deciding not to support it is one thing...hoping for it's failure is another. The failure of any comic book related movie hurts all comic book related movies.
Man of Tomorrow
02-21-2011, 01:15 PM
Regardless of how bad this movie could be (and I'm not a fan of Zack Snyder), it will still make money alone based on the Chris Nolan credit ... "Produced by the director of The Dark Knight Rises"
Audiences will be on a Nolan high after "The Dark Knight Rises" in Summer '10. Superman following right after is an instant cash cow IMO.
chamber-music
02-21-2011, 01:22 PM
Not even seen one scene of footage and not knowing even the plot of the movie yet people want to boycott it :whatever:
I'm all for people having an opinion this is a message board after all but it sounds like sour grapes if people have heard literally one bit of casting say they want the movie to fail simply because the actor they like didn't get the role :dry:
C. Lee
02-21-2011, 01:22 PM
Why, thank you! :)
I just checked your history....you were put on probation for trolling this thread before......now you come back with this stuff.....you are officially being told (a PM will follow) to not post in any Cavill is Superman thread again.
Changeling
02-21-2011, 01:24 PM
I just checked your history....you were put on probation for trolling this thread before......now you come back with this stuff.....you are officially being told (a PM will follow) to not post in any Cavill is Superman thread again.
hahahahahha :up:
Superman-Prime
02-21-2011, 01:32 PM
Regardless of how bad this movie could be (and I'm not a fan of Zack Snyder), it will still make money alone based on the Chris Nolan credit ... "Produced by the director of The Dark Knight Rises"
Audiences will be on a Nolan high after "The Dark Knight Rises" in Summer '10. Superman following right after is an instant cash cow IMO.
I didn't like Watchmen movie, I actually prefer the graphic novel better, IMO. Watchmen movie ending completely ruined the movie because it doesn't follow the ending of graphic novel. especially the slow-mo has been overkill. Way too much.
I forget that Christopher Nolan is involved Mr. Syder's Superman and I will tell you the truth, I will give this a chance.
When the official picture of Henry Cavill in blue tight with red cape, maybe I can change my mind.
Superman-Prime
02-21-2011, 01:37 PM
I just checked your history....you were put on probation for trolling this thread before......now you come back with this stuff.....you are officially being told (a PM will follow) to not post in any Cavill is Superman thread again.
Oh... well, I guess I won't post this anymore.
Man of Tomorrow
02-21-2011, 01:39 PM
Superman-Prime, Cavill is an actor playing a part. People tend to forget that when it comes to Superman... mainly due to Reeve.
Reeve embodied the character on and offscreen and suddenly the fanbase expected his successor to be some physical embodiment and ambassador of Superman. I noticed that in regards to Brandon Routh, but it didn't help he was a complete unknown too, with Mid-Western values. Routh got stuck with the same stigma and the same responsibility.
The good thing about Cavill is he's an actor first, a character actor.. who's going to transform into the role of Superman. Also, because of that I don't see Cavill getting typecast either.
He may likely be the first of the 6 Superman actors (Alyn, Reeves, Reeve, Cain, Routh, Cavill) who will avoid being typecast post-Superman because of this.
Zack Snyder
02-21-2011, 01:39 PM
I think you know Cavill has been a fan favorite and will work out fine. You are just screwing around on the board annoying people. Mehh
Zack Snyder
02-21-2011, 01:40 PM
Cavill may be the only actor that actually BENEFITS from the exposure of playing Superman. He could potentially follow suit to someone like Ewan Mcgregor who played an iconic character, and the exposure meshed with his acting ability to get him more valid work.
Lencho01
02-21-2011, 01:50 PM
An amusing satirical piece from today's Huffington Post:
Paul Dailing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-dailing)
Editor, Tinley Park Patch
Posted: February 21, 2011 01:20 AM
Dear Britain: Give Us Back Superman, or We're Taking "Doctor Who" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-dailing/dear-britain-give-us-back_b_825571.html)
Batman wasn't enough? Huh? You weren't happy having a British guy playing the Dark Knight (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/)?
No. You had to try for more.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield)
Spider-Man was next (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield) on your little fictional-character Lebensraum. OK, watching Tobey Maguire's spider-powered dance routine in the last movie paved the way for pretty much anyone to come in and, when it comes to pale, anemic Peter Parker types, you have to go to the source.
Then you went too far. You took Superman.
I am of course referring to the casting of British actor Henry Cavill (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1656918/superman-henry-cavill.jhtml) as that American icon, Superman. I mean no offense to Mr. Cavill or, as I'm sure his real name is, either Sir Nigel Bevinal Cavill-Cuffington IV or Declan from a sink estate in North Peckham.
I'm not opposed to foreign superheroes. Dang it, I liked the Aussie Hulk (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051509/) and Wolverine is not supposed to be an American anyway. And who else could be Professor X but the British guy famous for playing a French spaceship captain with an American accent (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/)?
But you people don't have guns! Do you even know how fast a speeding bullet is? (In miles per hour. None of your kilometer nonsense.)
I know we're not innocent. I am sorry about the Yankee Sherlock Holmes, but he was cast by one of your guys (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005363/). As for Bridget Jones, yes, we gave you a non-Austin Texan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000250/) as your archetypal London professional, but you gave us Bridget Jones. There are no winners here.
Considering one out of every four Britons has a recurring role in the Harry Potter franchise we're bankrolling, couldn't you leave us the Man of Steel? He's not as American as apple pie. Apple pie is as American as Superman.
You leave us no choice, Britain. We're going to have an American Doctor Who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who).
I can hear you laughing. "Ha ha ha," you would say, if anyone in your country could properly pronounce the letter H. "But 'oo 'ere could play the bleedin' Doctor? 'E's as British as shepherd's pie."
Laugh away, Britain. Laugh as if it's as funny as the American "Office" when really it's as sad as the British "That '70s Show." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_Like_These)
We have a Doctor at the ready, a man who can embody the wit of a Peter Davison, the frantic quirkiness of a Matt Smith, the innocent confusion of a Tom Baker and the slim-fitting suits of a David Tennant...
... Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Coyne).
Oklahoman Coyne has the spot down. Everything about Coyne screams the three features a Doctor needs to have: intelligence, otherworldliness, weird clothes. He's even got experience playing an alien (http://www.christmasonmarsmovie.com/)!
Give us back Superman or we're taking The Doctor and turning the TARDIS into a human-sized hamster ball. Krypton for Gallifrey. It's a fair trade.
How could an immigrant like Cavill relate to the story of a man who rocketed to America from a faraway land only to find safe haven and opportunity on these shores? How could he portray the character we love from comics written by men like Alan Moore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Moore), James Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robinson_%28comics%29) and current Action Comics scribe Paul Cornell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cornell)?
Back off on Kent, Britannia. Or wait to hear the TARDIS doors whoosh open to reveal new companion Larry the Cable Guy say "It's bigger on the inside, y'all."
That was hilarious.
The Shield
02-21-2011, 01:50 PM
hahaha... There is no "Fan" that is that intense about an actor getting the part of Superman that really exist. Especially an actor who didn't do anything in the movie he is supporting that showed him being Good enough to support such intensity. There's more to it. Anyone can make a profile for these forums and knowing that I wouldn't put it past a person who knows Routh personally to make one... It's pathetic otherwise. This is obviously the actual bitter loser of the part or someone close to them. lol pretty sad actually but if it where my fam or good friend it's also kinda sweet :cwink:
Project862006
02-21-2011, 01:55 PM
hahaha
we already took sherlock holmes
^^
And Margaret Thatcher! :woot:
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l568/jestabrooks/MerylStreep.jpg
04nbod
02-22-2011, 05:47 AM
You could have the real Maggie. We'll exchange her for Madonna.
Cavill may be the only actor that actually BENEFITS from the exposure of playing Superman. He could potentially follow suit to someone like Ewan McGregor who played an iconic character, and the exposure meshed with his acting ability to get him more valid work.
Actually, Cain, Routh and to some extant, Welling all benefited.
elgaz
02-22-2011, 06:22 AM
Well let's be honest, all the actors benefitted as most of them were unknowns.
I think what you're saying is that Cavill may turn out to be the only actor who avoids being typecast.
Zack Snyder
02-22-2011, 10:40 AM
Well let's be honest, all the actors benefitted as most of them were unknowns.
I think what you're saying is that Cavill may turn out to be the only actor who avoids being typecast.
Benefit must not have been the right word to convey what I was thinking. What I mean is they can move on to other movies and have long standing success in other big screen works. Ewan is a great example as he has done a lot of good movies, many of which also got widespread success.
FilmNerdJamie
02-22-2011, 11:17 AM
Way too soon to be saying whether Cavill can or will avoid type-casting.
Let's see what he does after Superman. Then we'll talk.
Zack Snyder
02-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Actually it is not at all too soon to say what I said. I only point out that his acting ability and appeal garner the most "potential" to have a career outside of Superman. In his case as an actor, the exposure will help him to other big projects imo.
J'adore
02-22-2011, 11:30 AM
You could have the real Maggie. We'll exchange her for Madonna.
:pal:
The Shield
02-22-2011, 11:31 AM
By the way, when is SHH going to take down Routh?! I'm I the only one who is tired of seeing that picture with the name Cavill under it?? If its a matter of not being able to use pictures from others sources could they use a comic book cover? At least crop the head... Its been close to a month now. Seriously, I didn't say anything at first but its been long enough.
Rowsdower!
02-22-2011, 11:39 AM
By the way, when is SHH going to take down Routh?! I'm I the only one who is tired of seeing that picture with the name Cavill under it?? If its a matter of not being able to use pictures from others sources could they use a comic book cover? At least crop the head... Its been close to a month now. Seriously, I didn't say anything at first but its been long enough.
What? You didn't know that Henry Cavill is playing Routh in this film? :woot:
FilmNerdJamie
02-22-2011, 11:44 AM
Actually it is not at all too soon to say what I said. I only point out that his acting ability and appeal garner the most "potential" to have a career outside of Superman. In his case as an actor, the exposure will help him to other big projects imo.
Gotta wait and see how Superman: The Man of Steel does next Christmas, how Cavill's performance is received, what he chooses as his first post Superman project before any (hypothetical) sequel and how said project does commercially. Then we can start talking about avoiding type-casting.
Which is why it's too soon to get into it considering none of that has taken place.
I can think of two franchise actors who have been wise with their choices as of late: Daniel Craig and Chris Pine.
Both are actively going for projects that are commercial but yet don't entail them playing a variation of their star-making role which is smart. While you have the chance, show the general public you can play more than your signature character during your tenure in a successful franchise.
Rowsdower!
02-22-2011, 12:54 PM
Gotta wait and see how Superman: The Man of Steel does next Christmas, how Cavill's performance is received, what he chooses as his first post Superman project before any (hypothetical) sequel and how said project does commercially. Then we can start talking about avoiding type-casting.
Which is why it's too soon to get into it considering none of that has taken place.
I can think of two franchise actors who have been wise with their choices as of late: Daniel Craig and Chris Pine.
Both are actively going for projects that are commercial but yet don't entail them playing a variation of their star-making role which is smart. While you have the chance, show the general public you can play more than your signature character during your tenure in a successful franchise.
What? No Sam Worthington? :hehe:
Dark Knight
02-22-2011, 01:19 PM
Gotta wait and see how Superman: The Man of Steel does next Christmas, how Cavill's performance is received, what he chooses as his first post Superman project before any (hypothetical) sequel and how said project does commercially. Then we can start talking about avoiding type-casting.
Which is why it's too soon to get into it considering none of that has taken place.
I can think of two franchise actors who have been wise with their choices as of late: Daniel Craig and Chris Pine.
Both are actively going for projects that are commercial but yet don't entail them playing a variation of their star-making role which is smart. While you have the chance, show the general public you can play more than your signature character during your tenure in a successful franchise.
So is this puppy going to be called "The Man Of Steel" or are WB's execs going to be insistent on adding the "Superman" to the title of the film?
By the way, when is SHH going to take down Routh?! I'm I the only one who is tired of seeing that picture with the name Cavill under it?? If its a matter of not being able to use pictures from others sources could they use a comic book cover? At least crop the head... Its been close to a month now. Seriously, I didn't say anything at first but its been long enough.
I don't get it...what picture of Routh?
BH/HHH
02-22-2011, 03:04 PM
I don't get it...what picture of Routh?
http://www.impawards.com/2006/posters/superman_returns_ver2.jpg
Thats the one they keep using but I'm sure they'll use a Cavill one once they have one
FilmNerdJamie
02-22-2011, 04:45 PM
What? No Sam Worthington? :hehe:
Nope.
Even despite starring in the biggest movie of all-time, I don't know anyone who knows him by name. "That guy from Avatar" is the best I've gotten from people.
Normally that's not bad - per say. But there was a lot of anticipation for Worthington because he was picked from obscurity by Cameron who'd launched two established actors into super-stardom (Schwarzenegger and DiCaprio).
So much build-up simply for Worthington before a frame of footage or even a picture from Avatar was shown other productions (Terminator: Salvation and Clash of the Titans) nabbed him knowing they'd be hitting cinemas before and after it finally hit.
Yeah, people loved Avatar but they didn't walk out talking about Worthington. Usually the praise was heaped on the movie itself, Cameron and, to a lesser degree, Zoe Saldana. Not to say people didn't like him; evidently, they did. But he didn't strike a nerve that say Chris Pine did that same year with Star Trek or eleven years ago with Jackman in X-Men.
That detailed rambling of mine aside, my point is Worthington hasn't shown anything in his pick of post-Avatar projects to suggest it's here for the long-run. He's gonna get fat and happy from his big Avatar and Clash of the Titans sequel bucks. But once those franchises dry up, I think he's done.
Sam Worthington, like many of the actors James Cameron chooses for his films, were picked because they serve a certain purpose. They might not be great at other roles, or even great actors, but they can pull off what Cameron wants for this particular role, so they get hired. Worthington just happened to give off the exact vibe Cameron wanted for Jake Sully.
I SEE SPIDEY
02-22-2011, 05:36 PM
Nope.
Even despite starring in the biggest movie of all-time, I don't know anyone who knows him by name. "That guy from Avatar" is the best I've gotten from people.
Normally that's not bad - per say. But there was a lot of anticipation for Worthington because he was picked from obscurity by Cameron who'd launched two established actors into super-stardom (Schwarzenegger and DiCaprio).
So much build-up simply for Worthington before a frame of footage or even a picture from Avatar was shown other productions (Terminator: Salvation and Clash of the Titans) nabbed him knowing they'd be hitting cinemas before and after it finally hit.
Yeah, people loved Avatar but they didn't walk out talking about Worthington. Usually the praise was heaped on the movie itself, Cameron and, to a lesser degree, Zoe Saldana. Not to say people didn't like him; evidently, they did. But he didn't strike a nerve that say Chris Pine did that same year with Star Trek or eleven years ago with Jackman in X-Men.
That detailed rambling of mine aside, my point is Worthington hasn't shown anything in his pick of post-Avatar projects to suggest it's here for the long-run. He's gonna get fat and happy from his big Avatar and Clash of the Titans sequel bucks. But once those franchises dry up, I think he's done.Post's like this is why I :hrt: you.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-22-2011, 06:12 PM
If Cavill does anything major after the first Superman, it should be the role of Richard Rahl. He's simultaneously been my top choice for both Superman and Richard. :up:
Rowsdower!
02-22-2011, 10:18 PM
Nope.
Even despite starring in the biggest movie of all-time, I don't know anyone who knows him by name. "That guy from Avatar" is the best I've gotten from people.
Normally that's not bad - per say. But there was a lot of anticipation for Worthington because he was picked from obscurity by Cameron who'd launched two established actors into super-stardom (Schwarzenegger and DiCaprio).
So much build-up simply for Worthington before a frame of footage or even a picture from Avatar was shown other productions (Terminator: Salvation and Clash of the Titans) nabbed him knowing they'd be hitting cinemas before and after it finally hit.
Yeah, people loved Avatar but they didn't walk out talking about Worthington. Usually the praise was heaped on the movie itself, Cameron and, to a lesser degree, Zoe Saldana. Not to say people didn't like him; evidently, they did. But he didn't strike a nerve that say Chris Pine did that same year with Star Trek or eleven years ago with Jackman in X-Men.
That detailed rambling of mine aside, my point is Worthington hasn't shown anything in his pick of post-Avatar projects to suggest it's here for the long-run. He's gonna get fat and happy from his big Avatar and Clash of the Titans sequel bucks. But once those franchises dry up, I think he's done.
Agreed. What's sad is that he's still getting thrown roles that look to be potential star-makers but his own limitations as an actor almost guarantee that he'll be, at best, passable in them. I don't know if that film with Helen Mirren, Tom Wilkinson and Ciaran Hinds has been released yet, but I seriously can't see him holding his own among such company. Now granted, he won't have any actual scenes with them since he plays the younger version of one of them (Ciaran, I believe). But I imagine that when I see the film, during the scenes with Worthington, I'll be anxiously awaiting it to switch back to the present day so I can see the superior actors.
Of course, that's all speculation. Perhaps Worthington will finally knock it out of the park in that film. But it doesn't help that (from what I've seen of it) he's playing an Israeli with an Aussie accent.
From an article in Entertainment Weekly today entitled Comic book fans: What are they saying about the slew of new superhero films?
We asked Ahmad Childress, Managing Editor of Crave Online, a media outlet that oversees such fansites as Super Hero Hype and Film School Rejects, to get his take on what comic book enthusiasts and the diehard fanboy-and-girl communities are saying about the upcoming deluge of villain-pummeling epics.
Superman – “I think fans are pretty happy with the choice [of director Zack Snyder]. As far as Henry Cavill as Superman — I don’t think he’s a name that people are familiar [with] enough. But it makes sense that they kind of followed the traditional Superman casting by casting someone who’s relatively unknown.” (2012)
Seems a little out-of-touch, don't you think? From what I can tell, the majority of fans on Super Hero Hype are overwhelmingly in favor of Henry Cavill, and have been for some time now, long before he was ever cast.
BH/HHH
02-23-2011, 12:41 PM
From an article in Entertainment Weekly today entitled Comic book fans: What are they saying about the slew of new superhero films?
We asked Ahmad Childress, Managing Editor of Crave Online, a media outlet that oversees such fansites as Super Hero Hype and Film School Rejects, to get his take on what comic book enthusiasts and the diehard fanboy-and-girl communities are saying about the upcoming deluge of villain-pummeling epics.
Superman – “I think fans are pretty happy with the choice [of director Zack Snyder]. As far as Henry Cavill as Superman — I don’t think he’s a name that people are familiar [with] enough. But it makes sense that they kind of followed the traditional Superman casting by casting someone who’s relatively unknown.” (2012)
Seems a little out-of-touch, don't you think? From what I can tell, the majority of fans on Super Hero Hype are overwhelmingly in favor of Henry Cavill, and have been for some time now, long before he was ever cast.
That guy obviously didn't read enough at here at the Hype :D
Lencho01
02-23-2011, 03:52 PM
From an article in Entertainment Weekly today entitled Comic book fans: What are they saying about the slew of new superhero films?
We asked Ahmad Childress, Managing Editor of Crave Online, a media outlet that oversees such fansites as Super Hero Hype and Film School Rejects, to get his take on what comic book enthusiasts and the diehard fanboy-and-girl communities are saying about the upcoming deluge of villain-pummeling epics.
Superman – “I think fans are pretty happy with the choice [of director Zack Snyder]. As far as Henry Cavill as Superman — I don’t think he’s a name that people are familiar [with] enough. But it makes sense that they kind of followed the traditional Superman casting by casting someone who’s relatively unknown.” (2012)
Seems a little out-of-touch, don't you think? From what I can tell, the majority of fans on Super Hero Hype are overwhelmingly in favor of Henry Cavill, and have been for some time now, long before he was ever cast.
I don't how it's out of touch. Fans know Snyder's Superman will "punch something." Cavill's not all that well known, but fans still like him (or his look).
The Shield
02-23-2011, 05:01 PM
Haha Was that guy even doing his job? People here were and have really come together over Cavill's casting. Everyone seems very happy about it just as much as we were about Snyder. Even those who didn't have Cavill-El as their first choice embraced it very early on.
04nbod
02-24-2011, 06:53 AM
Everyone with an open mind is tentatively on board at least. The only hate he's getting seems to be from Welling fanatics and Routh supporters.
J'adore
02-24-2011, 06:56 AM
I agree. It's sad really. Let it go, Welling's only there for Smallville. If you were to cast him, people (i.e non comic book fans) would assume it's within the same universe and wonder why Erica or Allison isn't there.
Bruce_Begins
02-24-2011, 12:09 PM
Everyone with an open mind is tentatively on board at least. The only hate he's getting seems to be from Welling fanatics and Routh supporters.
That is quite a sweeping statement to make, assume that most of the Welling Supporters and Routh supporters are the ones who are opposing the casting of Henry Cavill, Do you have any thing to support your theory ?
I think that Welling has done quite well in Smallville, and he has been around for Ten years on that show, that's quite an achievement, not many shows last Ten Seasons.
I was a Routh Supporter but decided to keep an open mind even though I wanted Routh as Superman again (the chances of that happening were really small.) but Cavill was my number two choice, and Now that he has got the role, I fully support him.
Cavill has the potential to be good Superman.
Adenjo
02-24-2011, 12:21 PM
Routh had the potential to be a good Superman.. Sadly he was let down by a below par movie, lets hope the same fate doesn't await Cavill.
O'Haire
02-24-2011, 12:30 PM
I am a big Routh supporter. And Cavill was always my second favorite for the role.
Glad at least one of them got it.
So it's all good :cool:
Zack Snyder
02-24-2011, 12:53 PM
Routh had the potential to be a good Superman.. Sadly he was let down by a below par movie, lets hope the same fate doesn't await Cavill.
His fate is fine because they aren't starting with a stupid returns storyline that in part has attachment to a 70's film version of the character. :-/ They are starting from the ground up, until he flies as the hero we are all waiting for. When you have the right premise, it should be hard to screw up Superman.
RachelDawes
02-24-2011, 01:08 PM
I am a big Routh supporter. And Cavill was always my second favorite for the role.
Glad at least one of them got it.
So it's all good :cool:
Yep. :up:
Zack Snyder
02-24-2011, 01:10 PM
I've only had Cavill in my top 2 for like 6 or 8 years so guess I'm happy as well ;)
I am a big Routh supporter. And Cavill was always my second favorite for the role.
Glad at least one of them got it.
So it's all good :cool:
Same here.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Jon Hamm and Cavill were always my top choices, I would've been completely happy with either one. It makes the most sense to have Cavill though, since he's the perfect age to be Superman for the next 10 years or more.
SuperDaniel
02-24-2011, 07:27 PM
All I know is that I read the EW magazine and boy...the pictures look so much better on the page and live than on the net...
04nbod
02-25-2011, 08:52 AM
That is quite a sweeping statement to make, assume that most of the Welling Supporters and Routh supporters are the ones who are opposing the casting of Henry Cavill, Do you have any thing to support your theory ?
I think that Welling has done quite well in Smallville, and he has been around for Ten years on that show, that's quite an achievement, not many shows last Ten Seasons.
I was a Routh Supporter but decided to keep an open mind even though I wanted Routh as Superman again (the chances of that happening were really small.) but Cavill was my number two choice, and Now that he has got the role, I fully support him.
Cavill has the potential to be good Superman.
Who said most? I said the most bitter detractors were Welling fanatics and Routh supporters not that all of them were detracting, the ones that are tend to fall in those catagories.
His fate is fine because they aren't starting with a stupid returns storyline that in part has attachment to a 70's film version of the character. :-/ They are starting from the ground up, until he flies as the hero we are all waiting for. When you have the right premise, it should be hard to screw up Superman.
hard to screw up superman???
r u kidding me???
we know that SR is not a big sucess, but do you know the disasterous development before SR for the last 2 decades???
at one point, there was a story about superman impregant lois lane before he died or something. then their baby grew up as a full adult within a few weeks? and become superman again!!! and no kidding! it's in their official script!!!
hard to screw up superman??? i'm telling u WB has 0 ZERO idea on how to do superman. WB sucks!!!
Llama_Shepherd
02-25-2011, 09:18 AM
WB shouldn't have wasted $50 million on Jon Peters, Kevin Smith and Tim Burton, for what was essentially Goth Superman. And then cancel what could have been a genuinely good Superman film to then give us Superman Returns. I believe, had Nolan not pitched Goyer's story, we still wouldn't have a film.
But what was that story about a reborn Superman, sounds like that Spider-Man story, where EXACTLY that happened.
Routh had the potential to be a good Superman.. Sadly he was let down by a below par movie, lets hope the same fate doesn't await Cavill.
I agree. Routh might have been fine in a different movie with a fresher storyline, more creative director, and a more inspired supporting cast.
That said, I'm kind of grateful that Routh was cast as the lead in "Superman Returns." If Cavill had been cast back then, he probably would have suffered the same fate with that script, director, and cast. The movie would still have been a disappointment, and Cavill might have faded into obscurity as the George Lazenby of the Superman films.
But now with Nolan and Snyder on board, I have all the faith in the world that this Superman is going to be the one that we've been waiting for and the one to reintroduce and reinvent the Man of Steel for this present generation. It's destiny, I tell you, destiny! :yay:
learning from WB brainless experience, i'm not that optimistic. but i truthfully hope u r right.
Lead Cenobite
02-25-2011, 09:54 AM
WB shouldn't have wasted $50 million on Jon Peters, Kevin Smith and Tim Burton, for what was essentially Goth Superman. And then cancel what could have been a genuinely good Superman film to then give us Superman Returns. I believe, had Nolan not pitched Goyer's story, we still wouldn't have a film.
Are you referring to the Abrams script? Because that would have divided people just as much as Superman Returns. And the only reason he rewrote it was because of the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the script review.
learning from WB brainless experience, i'm not that optimistic. but i truthfully hope u r right.
It's Nolan I'm putting my faith in, not WB. If anyone can resurrect Superman, it's Nolan. Hopefully WB won't stand in his way.
chamber-music
02-25-2011, 10:04 AM
I agree. Routh might have been fine in a different movie with a fresher storyline, more creative director, and a more inspired supporting cast.
That said, I'm kind of grateful that Routh was cast as the lead in "Superman Returns." If Cavill had been cast back then, he probably would have suffered the same fate with that script, director, and cast. The movie would still have been a disappointment, and Cavill might have faded into obscurity as the George Lazenby of the Superman films.
But now with Nolan and Snyder on board, I have all the faith in the world that this Superman is going to be the one that we've been waiting for and the one to reintroduce and reinvent the Man of Steel for this present generation. It's destiny, I tell you, destiny! :yay:
Good point in a way Cavill dodged a bullet not getting cast in Superman Returns. Routh was ok but I don't know why people are saying they fill sorry for him. He was plucked from relative obscurity (even less well known than Cavill pre-SR) and given a starring role in a major summer movie as an iconic character not many actors will get that in their career.
He also got a fanbase from doing that movie that seem willing to support his other non-superman movies. His been very lucky.
Good point in a way Cavill dodged a bullet not getting cast in Superman Returns. Routh was ok but I don't know why people are saying they fill sorry for him. He was plucked from relative obscurity (even less well known than Cavill pre-SR) and given a starring role in a major summer movie as an iconic character not many actors will get that in their career.
He also got a fanbase from doing that movie that seem willing to support his other non-superman movies. His been very lucky.
u know it's harder and more painful to fall down from a higher level. he was suppose / contracted to do 3 superman movies. and now he is done. somemore he was dished and not because of his fault.
it would be perfectly fine to him if he hasnt' done SR before.
Bruce_Begins
02-25-2011, 11:18 AM
Nolan as a producer, Goyer as writer and Cavill as Superman is a good combination for the movie but, I am some what concerned about the director Jack Snyder, his preference for Green Screen CGI and all style over substance (read character development) and over the top action sequences makeing me nervous.
Maybe he will prove me wrong and make a wonderful Superman movie, but I have some serious doubts.
Kal-El.9859
02-25-2011, 11:30 AM
There is nothing wrong with the WB, they make good movies with Legendary Picutres
Puckenstein
02-25-2011, 12:47 PM
I'd be worried if Jack Snyder were directing, too.
Project862006
02-25-2011, 12:50 PM
why would anyone be nervous snyder is a great director
all his movies have solid acting especially watchmen which was'nt cgi heavy besides places that needed it like Mars
Rowsdower!
02-25-2011, 12:51 PM
I'd be worried if Jack Snyder were directing, too.
So would I.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0861772/
Project862006
02-25-2011, 12:53 PM
:awesome:
GreenKToo
02-25-2011, 12:55 PM
With all the starts and stops we've had with Superman over the years i'll feel better once the cameras start rolling, and even then i'll be holding my breath.
Rowsdower!
02-25-2011, 02:22 PM
I think we're good this time, though. I doubt they would have run a cover article in EW if this thing was doomed.
GoblinWhirlwind
02-25-2011, 03:43 PM
This time Superman is here to stay.
I Am The Knight
02-25-2011, 07:58 PM
Nolan as a producer, Goyer as writer and Cavill as Superman is a good combination for the movie but, I am some what concerned about the director Jack Snyder, his preference for Green Screen CGI and all style over substance (read character development) and over the top action sequences makeing me nervous.
Maybe he will prove me wrong and make a wonderful Superman movie, but I have some serious doubts.
The director Jack Snyder is a good man. And thorough.
Superman Prime
02-25-2011, 08:03 PM
This time Superman is here to stay.
Agreed. If best comes to best, Supes' fanbase is going to grow exponentially.
GreenKToo
02-26-2011, 12:25 AM
I must say, having names like Viggo Mortensen and DDL rumored to be up for roles takes this film to a whole other level.
RoughNTumble
02-26-2011, 12:30 AM
Hearing DDL in interviews, he sounds so disinterested in tentpole films that it's almost to the point that he loathes them.
Sawyer
02-26-2011, 12:41 AM
I swear to God, at a certain point it's just sad.... I get that he's everyone's pipedream casting, but DDL will never happen. He's the hot, popular cheerleader and summer blockbusters/comic book movies are the kids sitting at the loser table. The two will never get together.... well, not necessarily never... there's always that off chance that said cheerleader gets wasted at a party and loses all her inhibitions, but I dont see a drink in DDL's hand.
I just think it's due time we all stop losing our **** over people who very likely have no interest in this kind of stuff.
GreenKToo
02-26-2011, 12:43 AM
I'd lay odds that we don't get DDL, but it's great just hearing rumors of snyder pursuing him.
Project862006
02-26-2011, 01:21 AM
i hate actors like that pretentious much
Superman Prime
02-26-2011, 01:41 AM
edit
this is going to be great, the light to batmans dark. its going to be inspiring and epic. i feel Cavill and snyder are about to bring us a ****ing epic movie. what superman returns shoulda been. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5DMCd7hv1w
says it all, the feeling and anticipation i had after that teaser...is what i am expecting with snyder and cavill.
we have batman now with a sense of failure, hopelessness, a dark victory. Snyder Nolan and Cavill are gonna bring us the equivalent in the light. i cant ****in wait. :yay:
god damn that music pumps me up.
RoughNTumble
02-26-2011, 01:59 AM
Yeah the superman returns teaser was freakin awesome. Shame about the movie.
exactly.
im just saying if we get anything close to the feeling we got from that teaser... we have a great movie coming. **** absolutely pumps me up. then i think about superman fighting a giant rock and almost dying... thanks for making me want to jump off a cliff.
I must say, having names like Viggo Mortensen and DDL rumored to be up for roles takes this film to a whole other level.
who is DDL???
btw, i agree if Viggo M & Kevin C were on board, it would definitely draw in more attention and sell more!
Deathlok
02-26-2011, 09:44 AM
I'm really happy with Henry Cavill as Superman/Clark Kent.
It might even help with foreign box office. Especially in the UK.
I just hope he is able to pull off a realistic natural sounding American accent. After all we don't really want a Texan sounding Superman do we? No offence to Texans intended... :yay: I'm sure you get my meaning. For instance, I watched American Psycho many years ago and thought Christian Bale was American until I heard him being interviewed some months later.
Wonder if there is going to be a Lex Luthor? If there is, I'd vote for Billy Zane. Then just to mix it up we could go for Kelly Brook as Lois.... :cwink:
Oh yeah. Just what the heck is DDL?
Rowsdower!
02-26-2011, 11:56 AM
Daniel Day Lewis.
Doctor Jones
02-26-2011, 12:11 PM
Lewis will always be a pipedream. The day he is in a big summer film is the day I will defy gravity.
terry78
02-26-2011, 12:40 PM
Ironically the actors we always want for these flicks are the ones who rarely do them. Like that guy that gets chicks because he ignores them.
04nbod
02-26-2011, 12:43 PM
I just want a casting announcement. Even if its just Costner. Its been a month since Cavill was announced, its Oscar weekend when the entire world is looking at Hollywood, give us something.
BH/HHH
02-26-2011, 04:16 PM
I just want a casting announcement. Even if its just Costner. Its been a month since Cavill was announced, its Oscar weekend when the entire world is looking at Hollywood, give us something.
:up: yeah would be great to hear something else
Astrodust
02-26-2011, 04:25 PM
Here is a recent article on Cavill. Sort of.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1360927/Supercouple-Hunky-new-Superman-actor-Henry-Cavill-jumping-girlfriend-Ellen-Whitaker.html
GoblinWhirlwind
02-26-2011, 04:26 PM
Wait, Snyder is trying to get DDL?? I hadn't heard this.
SuperDaniel
02-26-2011, 04:47 PM
Bigger pic!
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19400000/EW-Superman-issue-henry-cavill-19436087-361-480.jpg
batman44
02-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Cavill's girlfriend is rather cute.
Doctor Jones
02-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Cavill can get any woman he wants. And when they see him in the suit, the world's population will triple. The Superman suit will be the thing that women make their men wear for sex.
hame4479
02-26-2011, 06:10 PM
Cavill can get any woman he wants. And when they see him in the suit, the world's population will triple. The Superman suit will be the thing that women make their men wear for sex.
This might be the greatest thing I have ever read on this site, we can only hope.
Franklin Richards
02-26-2011, 06:21 PM
I'm really happy with Henry Cavill as Superman/Clark Kent.
It might even help with foreign box office. Especially in the UK.
I just hope he is able to pull off a realistic natural sounding American accent. After all we don't really want a Texan sounding Superman do we? No offence to Texans intended... :yay: I'm sure you get my meaning. For instance, I watched American Psycho many years ago and thought Christian Bale was American until I heard him being interviewed some months later.
Wonder if there is going to be a Lex Luthor? If there is, I'd vote for Billy Zane. Then just to mix it up we could go for Kelly Brook as Lois.... :cwink:
Oh yeah. Just what the heck is DDL?
Hey! I don't know if you know this or not, but Texas is in America. Why pick my accent? Do you want Superman to sound like he's from Boston? Would that be better? How about Allllllaaaaaaaaaabaaaaaaaaaaaammmma? That more American than Texas?
:argh:
:D
:doom: :doom: :doom:
Rhiannon
02-26-2011, 08:08 PM
How about Allllllaaaaaaaaaabaaaaaaaaaaaammmma? That more American than Texas?
Hey, I'm from Alabama! And I'll be the first to admit that people down here have horrendous accents. I have worked hard to suppress mine, but people from the north can tell right away. :csad:
That said, Superman without a southern accent is my preference. :cwink:
Franklin Richards
02-26-2011, 08:10 PM
I actually know people from Kansas. Would be cool to hear a Kansassian accent.
:cap: :cap: :cap:
It'd be a neat little addition. As I recall I don't think any of the other actors employed it within their performances. Though it could be glossed over, as many of the Kansas accents I've heard aren't too thick and can be easily categorized as "generic American accent".
ArmsHeldOut
02-26-2011, 09:53 PM
I actually know people from Kansas. Would be cool to hear a Kansassian accent.
:cap: :cap: :cap:
Franklin, why didn't you save your uncle Johnny?
ArmsHeldOut
02-26-2011, 09:56 PM
Cavill's girlfriend is rather cute.
Yeah, she's pretty.
SuperMike335!!
02-26-2011, 10:42 PM
All I have to say to Cavill is STAY OFF THE GIRLFRIEND'S HORSE!!!
Horse jumping + Superman actor = bad joojoo
JosephCAW
02-26-2011, 11:15 PM
LMAO...............ok laughing aside.......thats a horrible thing to say
I Am The Knight
02-26-2011, 11:24 PM
All I have to say to Cavill is STAY OFF THE GIRLFRIEND'S HORSE!!!
Horse jumping + Superman actor = bad joojoo
Hahaha duude, don't go there...
Rowsdower!
02-27-2011, 12:14 AM
Here is a recent article on Cavill. Sort of.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1360927/Supercouple-Hunky-new-Superman-actor-Henry-Cavill-jumping-girlfriend-Ellen-Whitaker.html
I laughed out loud at this:
‘One of the other riders asked, “What do you do, then?” ’ she recalls. ‘Henry said he was an actor. When the other rider asked, “Are you famous?”, Henry replied, “The fact you’ve had to ask that suggests probably not.” ’
Rowsdower!
02-27-2011, 12:22 AM
Cavill can get any woman he wants. And when they see him in the suit, the world's population will triple. The Superman suit will be the thing that women make their men wear for sex.
I'm quoting this in my sig. Hope you don't mind. It's the best thing I've ready on the Hype in a long time.
Astrodust
02-27-2011, 02:55 AM
Cavill can get any woman he wants. And when they see him in the suit, the world's population will triple. The Superman suit will be the thing that women make their men wear for sex.
That is great until you walk in on your parents dressed up and have to gouge out your own eyes.
Franklin Richards
02-27-2011, 09:00 AM
Franklin, why didn't you save your uncle Johnny?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Fantastic%20Four/SpideyFrank.jpg
Don't worry. I'll fix it. I'll fix everything.
:ff: :ff: :ff:
Doctor Jones
02-27-2011, 11:52 AM
I'm quoting this in my sig. Hope you don't mind. It's the best thing I've ready on the Hype in a long time.
Not at all. :woot:
BH/HHH
02-27-2011, 12:20 PM
I can see Henry bringing in the ladies much like Ryan Reynolds will with the Green Lantern movie
Zack Snyder
02-27-2011, 07:19 PM
Cavill's girlfriend is rather cute.
That is a bad pic of her in the article though.
Man of Tomorrow
02-28-2011, 12:32 AM
Cavill will be the Fifth cinematic Superman.
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1499/supermen.jpg
Alyn and Reeves represented the Golden Age of the Silver Screen Superman.
Reeve and Routh represented the Donner Age of Superman.
Cavill represents a new Modern Age for Superman.
RoughNTumble
02-28-2011, 12:40 AM
that's some great art, perfectly captures them
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